[FedCom] ROSS 361 in Atlanta

Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:35:50 -0400

Just as an FYI, ALL FAA registered US aircraft have "N" as their 1st
character.  Believe it or not, it was the $1m question on "Who Wants To Be a
Millionaire" several months ago.

In the Metro Atlanta area, the DeKalb County PD helo's sometimes ID
themselves as Eagle 1 or 2.  Then again, local controllers are familiar with
them.

/\/\|k.e

Michael B. Martin
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----- Original Message -----
From: "A10382" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [FedCom] ROSS 361 in Atlanta

> Both the federal gov't and many state police operations have gone to fixed
> wing aircraft for cost savings....
>
> This will never eliminate the helicopter, as it does some things very well
> that a fixed wing just cannot do - like land on a roof top.
>
> A typical turbine (jet engine) helicopter costs a few million AND a few
> hundred per hour to operate.
> A typical recip (piston engine) helicopter costs a few hundred thousand
and
> about $150 per hour to operate.
> A Cessna 182 costs under $200,000 and about $75 per hour to operate.  With
> 'low speed' mods it can fly very well down to 40 knots (into a 20 knot
wind,
> that's 20 knots of groundspeed) making it a fairly good observation
> platforms.  There are also a number of purpose built observation fixed
wing
> airplanes, with large bubble canopies and the ability to carry FLIR and
> stabilized cameras - great and cheap surveillance platforms...
>
> I had flown an old Cessna L-19 (the 'bird-dog') a number of years ago,
that
> was still controllable at 30 mph.  Flying into a 30 mph wind, you could
> literally hover...
>
> Some (but far from all) of the state owned C-172's and C-182's have an 'N'
> number suffix of 'SP' - for State Police (i,e,; N123SP).  On the air, this
> would be called something like "November One Two Three Sierra Pappa".
Local
> controllers quickly become familiar with the call signs and do not need
any
> call sign modifiers to know it's a law enforcement op.  They're used for
> everything from surveillance to prisoner and witness transportation.  For
> trips under 800 miles, it's much cheaper then sending two guys on a
> commercial flight to pick up a prisoner.
>
> 73
> Frank
>
>  ._._.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rod jones" <[email protected]>
> To: "FedCom" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 1:32 PM
> Subject: [FedCom] ROSS 361 in Atlanta
>
>
> > Yesterday heard ROSS 361 with Atlanta Approach, id'ing as a Cessna 182,
> going "on station", then a
> > little later 166.975 came active with encrypted comms (this is a known
FBI
> surveillance freq in
> > Atlanta). Didn't hear any other known FBI used freq active, but did hear
> ROSS 361 with Atlanta
> > Approach most of the morning coordinating movements, and 166.975 was
> active most of the morning as
> > well.
> >
> > Rod
> > Metro Atlanta
> >
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