[FedCom] ISR traffice this weekend -- NONE

Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:11:56 -0700

>From: "Denny Beringer" <[email protected]>
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>Subject: Re: [FedCom] ISR traffice this weekend -- NONE
>Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:22:50 -0500
>
>I understand from a local CAP commander that not only are type accepted
>radios now required but they must also be narrow band capapable.
>
>db
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>Subject: Re: [FedCom] ISR traffice this weekend -- NONE
>
>
> > << They were orginally meant strictly for the US Marine Corps & than a
> > decision was made to put it on a GSA schedule which would allow any
>federal
> > or military department to buy the radios. Also Civil Air Patrol jumped
>into
> > the act.
> >
> > There was a big hoopla over at CAP regarding the use of "civilian"
> > frequencies. One of the head honchos prohibited them from using civilian
>and
> > non type-accepted radios (effectively barring them from using modified 
>ham
> > gear, which most of their 143 & 148MHz equipment is), so they had to 
>find
> > something else.
> >
> >
> > << A federal agency could go out and buy some regular FRS radios with
>voice
> > privacy (speech inversion) & be in better shape than with these units.
> >
> > Agreed. Wholeheartedly!
> >
> >
> > << I really don't understand why the USMC would every buy a radio that
>can't
> > allow some sort of encryption/privacy (e.g. speech inversion)
> >
> > The intended operation of the radios is for short-range use. If an enemy
>is
> > using SIGINT/COMINT techniques & hears activity, he will know our troops
>are
> > CLOSE.
> > This has been a big concern. Many feel we do not need to add to the 
>radio
> > signature of our military. When everybody's got a radio, everyone wants 
>to
> > talk. Only the most diciplined folks can stay off the PTT switch until
> > absolutely necessary.
> >
> > A good comparison would be equipping your local police with portable
>radios.
> > Radio traffic will increase. Obviously, every police officer having a
>radio
> > is a safety issue & a good thing. In the military's case however, you 
>can
>see
> > the problems this might cause. On the other hand, command & control 
>should
>be
> > easier prior to enemy contact.
> >
> > Since anyone with a GSA "catalog" can order these, the channels may bear
> > watching in the future.
> >
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Re: Marine Radio's

  During the URBAN WARRIOR exercise at Camp Pendleton, a 4 channel, 
digitally encrypted portable trunked system was put in place in San Diego. 
Initial Radio checks were in the clear, then went coded shortly afterward 
(much like WHCA). I found it very interesting that 2 of the 4 freqs used are 
assigned to FEMA. In use were:
138.125
139.450 (FEMA)
139.075
139.825 (FEMA Zone 10- CA. repeaters normally).
  I also found an interesting logo on the Marine web page, which was quickly 
removed, a fire-breathing dragon (the universal symbol for Satan since old 
testament times) arising from the sea to (apparently) burn a large city, 
which appeared to have twin high rise towers, that looked remarkably like 
the World Trade Center. This "original" logo was altered and replaced almost 
immediately after being posted at several web sites. Taking all of this in, 
it makes me wonder, in what country are they expecting house to house 
fighting where encrypted radio's would be needed (I'm sure the Somali's had 
many scanners in their command post- NOT), and how this relates to a test 
question on a prototype new test (written as a paper by a Marine Lt.Col. at 
the War College and given to young Marines at 29 palms) which asked 
questions like, if the President gave an order that all civilian firearms 
were to be turned in, and your squad was doing a house to house sweep for 
"illegal" civilian weapons (IN the U.S.), would you fire on Americans who 
refused to give up their weapons when ordered to???
   What are these impressionable young Marines being prepared for anyhow?? 
And why is the military on FEMA (a disaster-relief organization??) 
frequencies? ( The "cammo dudes"-a.k.a. Wakenhut Security at AFFTC 
Det.3-also known as Nellis Aux. 5, Groom Lake, or Area 51 also use a FEMA 
repeater- 408.400 tx/418.050 rpt).
   There's alot to see if you open your eyes. Ruff

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