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Sun, 9 Feb 2003 09:11:08 -0500

Bill Moyers? This guy is one of the biggest left wing
wackos in the media.....
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From: "Michael Rumberg" <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [FedCom] Mil VHF 138-144, 148-150.975


> some folks may be less eloquent and more emotional than others.  but that
> doesn't make them any less serious or responsible in their viewpoint.
>
> we have all seen how legislation has steadily eroded at our legal rights
to
> engage in our hobby.
>
> PBS and Bill Moyers, those paragons of paranoia and conspiracy theories,
> have the same concerns as Ruff.
>
> It is only my humble suggestion, but I suggest that before one dismisses
> another's opinions as the nonsensical ravings of the lunatic mind, one
> should personally fully inform oneself and vet the sources.
>
> THAT is the American way.....
>
> check out the following:
> ---------------------------------------------------
> from PBS's NOW with Bill Moyers Friday 02.07.03.
>
> Breaking News
>
> There's an important story developing tonight at the Justice Department.
The
> non-partisan Center for Public Integrity obtained a closely-guarded
document
> that shows plans for a sweeping  expansion of the government's police
> powers.
>
> Until now, few people outside of the department, not even members of key
> congressional committees have seen this draft legislation. It could lead
to
> increased surveillance and greater secrecy  - all in the name of the war
on
> terror. It raises questions about how we balance liberty and security -
the
> rights of individuals versus the rule of law.
>
> Bill Moyers talks to Chuck Lewis about the significance of the Domestic
> Security  Enhancement Act of 2003 and how it would affect civil liberties.
>
> http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/lewis.html
>
>
>
> Read the Department of Justice Response (PDF)
> http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/03-082-opa.pdf
>
> See who received the draft legislation (PDF) -- ONLY Dennis Hastert & VP
> Cheney
> http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/distribution.pdf
>
>
> READ THE DOCUMENT
>
> Download the high resolution version (PDF)
> http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/patriot2-hi.pdf
>
> Download the low resolution version (PDF)
> http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/patriot2-low.pdf
>
>
>
> Civil Liberties and the Patriot Act:
>
> The Center for Public Integrity
> http://www.publicintegrity.org/dtaweb/home.asp
> The Center for Public Integrity, a nonprofit, nonpartisan, tax-exempt
> organization, was founded by Charles Lewis. The mission of the Center for
> Public Integrity is to provide the American people with the findings of
our
> investigations and analyses of public service, government accountability
and
> ethics related issues. The Web site has many frequently updated features
on
> Issue Ads, Campaign Finance and Citizen Muckraking, among others. The site
> is also home to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists,
> which posts stories from all over the globe.
>
> The Department of Homeland Security
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/deptofhomeland/
> The Department of Homeland Security offers information about Homeland
> Security legislation, the President's Homeland Security proposal, and
> analysis of the department. Other features include transcripts of speeches
> given by Governor Tom Ridge at the National Association of Broadcasters
> Education Foundation 2002 Service to America Summit and President Bush's
> Address to the Nation concerning homeland security. Online chat
transcripts
> with Governor Ridge are also included.
>
> Homeland Security, Homeland Profits
> http://www.corpwatch.org/issues/PID.jsp?articleid=1108
> On the Corpwatch Web site (a corporate watchdog group), Wayne Madsen
argues
> that corporations are standing to make billions from selling "surveillance
> and information-gathering systems to government agencies and the private
> sector." Madsen cautions that this technology will be utilized to
intimidate
> and squelch dissent.
>
> How the USA Patriot Act Puts the CIA Back in the Business of Spying On
> Americans
> http://www.aclu.org/congress/l102301j.html
> In this issue brief, the American Civil Liberties Union argues that the
USA
> Patriot Act includes domestic espionage against American citizens.
According
> to the ACLU, the USA Patriot Act "permits a vast array of information
> gathering on U.S. citizens from school records, financial transactions,
> Internet activity, telephone conversations, information gleaned from grand
> jury proceedings and criminal investigations to be shared with the CIA
(and
> other non-law enforcement officials) even if it pertains to Americans."
>
> Preparing the U.S. Army for Homeland Security
> http://www.rand.org/publications/MR/MR1251/
> In this Rand Corporation publication, the organization analyzes the
security
> threats facing the U.S. and helps to clarify the U.S. Army's core
> responsibilities in preventing and responding to attacks on the U.S.
> homeland.
>
> Seizing Dictatorial Power - William Safire
> http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/15/opinion/15SAFI.html
> In this New York Times op-ed, journalist William Safire admonishes the
Bush
> Administration for usurping "dictatorial powers" in the prosecution and
> sentencing of suspected terrorists. Safire trumpets a clarion call for all
> "conservative iconoclasts and card-carrying hard-liners to stand up for
> American values."
>
> The Sons and Daughters of Liberty
> http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0226/hentoff.php
> Village Voice correspondent Nat Hentoff reports on 300 citizens of
> Northhampton, Massachusetts that organized a community meeting to resist
the
> USA Patriot Act. Under the banner of Northhampton Bill of Rights Defense
> Committee, Hentoff describes the town's activism as a "new American
> Revolution."
>
> The Northampton Bill of Rights Defense Committee
> http://www.bordc.org/
> The Northampton Bill of Rights Defense Committee (NBORDC) is a grassroots
> initiative that organized to resist the U.S.A Patriot Act. The NBORDC Web
> site provides helpful tips to individuals and groups interested in
creating
> their own Bill of Rights Defense Committees in their communities. The Web
> site also includes an issues page which analyzes provisions of the USA
> PATRIOT Act and Federal Executive Orders in the context of the Bill of
> Rights of the U.S. Constitution.
>
> USA Patriot Act
> http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.03162:
> Thomas is the legislative search engine provided by the Library of
Congress.
> Thomas allows users to read the complete text of the USA Patriot Act,
follow
> its path through Congress and its many committees, review its co-sponsors
in
> Congress, and much more.
>
> USA Patriot Act Includes Provisions on Student Records
> http://www.acenet.edu/hena/issues/2001/11-05-01/patriot.act.cfm
> The American Council on Education(ACE) highlights provisions in the USA
> Patriot Act that authorizes the ability of the U.S. government to collect
> detailed information on foreign students. According to ACE, the USA
Patriot
> Act also directs the U.S. Attorney General to implement an electronic
> database to store and track foreign students from selected countries.
Those
> educational institutions that fail to authorize the intelligence network
can
> be denied the ability to accept foreign students.
>
> Watching You: Systematic Federal Surveillance of Ordinary Americans
> http://www.cato.org/pubs/briefs/bp69.pdf
> A Cato Institute issue brief, "Watching You," documents the push to enact
a
> federal tracking system to monitor U.S. citizens in the aftermath of
> September 11, 2001. If this federal tracking program is instituted, the
Cato
> Institute warns that the government "will have perverted its most
> fundamental mission and destroyed the privacy and liberty that it was
> supposed to protect."
>
> Task of a Terror Czar
> http://www.frc.org/get/ar01j4.cfm
> Robert Maginnis of the Family Research Council makes recommendations to
> ensure the effectiveness of the Gov. Tom Ridges' Department of Homeland
> Security.
>
> The Posse Comitatus Act: Can We Maintain American Freedom Without It?
> http://www.freecongress.org/commentaries/020729.asp
> In this essay, C. T. Rossi responds to Homeland Security head Tom Ridges'
> attempt to repeal the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. The Posse Comitatus Act
> barred the U.S. military from serving as a civilian police force,
> effectively protecting the right of states and local communities to police
> themselves. Its repeal, argues Rossi, "would open the door to old abuses"
> and concentrate undue power in the federal government.
>
>
>
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