[FedCom] US Marshal's Prisoner Transportation Acft

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Tue Aug 31 20:57:59 EDT 2004


One of the more interesting "charters" is One Leasing.
http://www.lazygranch.com/basecampsro.htm

Google N105TB for an interesting civilian/military airplane.

There is also the not so exciting charter that follows AF1. I think it 
is related to the press corps. My recollection is Northwest has the 
contract, but I haven't seen AF1 land in 3 years.

One thing to keep in mind is that these civilian charters are not 
filtered from the plane tracking websites such as www.passur.com, 
www.redoneaviation.com, etc.  Redoneaviation has a one day free pass. 
You can use it to check the history of civilian planes that have landed 
at military airports. The records go back 6 months. As an example, you 
can see that United Airlines flight UAL9901 went from  Istambul to 
Andrews AFB on 6/30/2004. Certain planes are blocked from tracking, 
though there are tricks to get around the blocking.

In another post to this thread, someone mentioned the US flag on the 
side of the plane. This seems to be common with most commercial 
aircraft, though I don't know if it is a requirement. That is, just 
because a plane has a US flag on it, it is not necesarily being 
chartered by the feds.

Good airports for such "civilian" aircraft are airports that used to be 
military but got converted due to BRAC, and Palmdale.
http://www.sclaa.org/ is used by the FBI, which has offices nearby. KPOB 
(pope) is another good airport to monitor for usual charters.

Michael Rumberg wrote:

>he is right:  many DOJ aircraft are charters, especially FBI. some years ago I was able to observe some of their planes and when I checked tail numbers at landings.com they all came back to some innocuous charter companies or companies with some "scientific" sounding names for the surveillance ships. 
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>>From: "lists at lazygranch.com" <lists at lazygranch.com>
>>Subject: Re: [FedCom] US Marshal's Prisoner Transportation Acft
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>>Regarding charters, other than finding the request for quote in the  Federal Register, just about any plane could be used by the feds. Now if 
>>it lands routinely at a military base, they need to get on the "CALP".
>>http://www.usaasa.belvoir.army.mil/CALP/CALP1Aug04.htm
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