[FedCom] US Marshal's Prisoner Transportation Acft
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Tue Aug 31 20:57:59 EDT 2004
One of the more interesting "charters" is One Leasing.
http://www.lazygranch.com/basecampsro.htm
Google N105TB for an interesting civilian/military airplane.
There is also the not so exciting charter that follows AF1. I think it
is related to the press corps. My recollection is Northwest has the
contract, but I haven't seen AF1 land in 3 years.
One thing to keep in mind is that these civilian charters are not
filtered from the plane tracking websites such as www.passur.com,
www.redoneaviation.com, etc. Redoneaviation has a one day free pass.
You can use it to check the history of civilian planes that have landed
at military airports. The records go back 6 months. As an example, you
can see that United Airlines flight UAL9901 went from Istambul to
Andrews AFB on 6/30/2004. Certain planes are blocked from tracking,
though there are tricks to get around the blocking.
In another post to this thread, someone mentioned the US flag on the
side of the plane. This seems to be common with most commercial
aircraft, though I don't know if it is a requirement. That is, just
because a plane has a US flag on it, it is not necesarily being
chartered by the feds.
Good airports for such "civilian" aircraft are airports that used to be
military but got converted due to BRAC, and Palmdale.
http://www.sclaa.org/ is used by the FBI, which has offices nearby. KPOB
(pope) is another good airport to monitor for usual charters.
Michael Rumberg wrote:
>he is right: many DOJ aircraft are charters, especially FBI. some years ago I was able to observe some of their planes and when I checked tail numbers at landings.com they all came back to some innocuous charter companies or companies with some "scientific" sounding names for the surveillance ships.
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>>From: "lists at lazygranch.com" <lists at lazygranch.com>
>>Subject: Re: [FedCom] US Marshal's Prisoner Transportation Acft
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>>Regarding charters, other than finding the request for quote in the Federal Register, just about any plane could be used by the feds. Now if
>>it lands routinely at a military base, they need to get on the "CALP".
>>http://www.usaasa.belvoir.army.mil/CALP/CALP1Aug04.htm
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