[FedCom] USCG
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Wed Apr 27 08:08:35 EDT 2005
I "Believe" the Assistant Commandant for Intelligence" is a civilian
position at this time.....There may be others.
Of course, I retired in 74, so this may have changed.
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> 1. Re: Tour Pax Ship Covert Alerting Devices (Michael Rumberg)
> 2. Re: Tour Pax Ship Covert Alerting Devices (Greg Brazil)
> 3. Re: Re: [FedCom] Tour Pax Ship Covert Alerting Devices
> (Michael Rumberg)
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> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:08:45 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Michael Rumberg <michael.rumberg at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [FedCom] Tour Pax Ship Covert Alerting Devices
> To: Ken <rfinder1 at verizon.net>, Discussion of Federal Government
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> I know this came across some time ago but I am just getting around to it.
>
> I have a question to anyone that is USCG knowledgeable:
>
> I noticed the instruction is signed by two assistant commandants but no
rank for either is given. I am under the impression that "commandant"
(Navy, Marines, CG) were titles for military members usually O-7 or above;
does the CG have civilians with that those titles as well?
>
> TIA
> >From: Ken <rfinder1 at verizon.net>
> >Date: Sat Apr 02 12:55:52 CST 2005
> >To: Discussion of Federal Government Communications
<fedcom at mailman.qth.net>
> >Cc: MilCom <milcom at mailman.qth.net>
> >Subject: [FedCom] Tour Pax Ship Covert Alerting Devices
>
> >Well, I've always wondered about passenger tour ships covertly alerting
> >federal/military authorities in case of a terrorist and/or criminal type
> >attack/incident.. People I've known that have taken these tours have
also
> >wondered about this (but most are not really that security aware)... Of
> >course I'm a land luber at heart & can't see myself on a cruise ship for
3
> >to 10 days, but if it's your passion go for it!!!
> >
> >Some research on the USCG sites indicates that a covert alert system has
> >been installed on pax tour ships..
> >
> >See USCG Commandant Instruction 3120.3 "Guidance for the Ship Alert
Security
> >System (SSAS)"
> >http://www.uscg.mil/ccs/cit/cim/directives/CI/CI_3120_3.pdf
> >
> >K
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:10:50 -0700
> From: Greg Brazil <baycomm at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [FedCom] Tour Pax Ship Covert Alerting Devices
> To: Discussion of Federal Government Communications
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> Cc: MilCom <milcom at mailman.qth.net>
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> No they don't. The head of the Marines and Coast Guard are the
> Commandants of their service. There are several Asst Commandants, which
> is there job title, i.e. for the Coast Guard Asst Commandant for Marine
> Safety, Operations, Systems, Human Resources, Acquisition, Govt & Public
> Affairs, then there are Deputy Assistant Commandants. The Asst
> Commandants are normally a 2 star Admrial.
> Greg (SF Bay Area)
>
> Michael Rumberg wrote:
>
> > I know this came across some time ago but I am just getting around to
it.
> >
> > I have a question to anyone that is USCG knowledgeable:
> >
> > I noticed the instruction is signed by two assistant commandants but no
rank for either is given. I am under the impression that "commandant"
(Navy, Marines, CG) were titles for military members usually O-7 or above;
does the CG have civilians with that those titles as well?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> >>From: Ken <rfinder1 at verizon.net>
> >>Date: Sat Apr 02 12:55:52 CST 2005
> >>To: Discussion of Federal Government Communications
<fedcom at mailman.qth.net>
> >>Cc: MilCom <milcom at mailman.qth.net>
> >>Subject: [FedCom] Tour Pax Ship Covert Alerting Devices
> >
> >
> >>Well, I've always wondered about passenger tour ships covertly alerting
> >>federal/military authorities in case of a terrorist and/or criminal
type
> >>attack/incident.. People I've known that have taken these tours have
also
> >>wondered about this (but most are not really that security aware)...
Of
> >>course I'm a land luber at heart & can't see myself on a cruise ship
for 3
> >>to 10 days, but if it's your passion go for it!!!
> >>
> >>Some research on the USCG sites indicates that a covert alert system
has
> >>been installed on pax tour ships..
> >>
> >>See USCG Commandant Instruction 3120.3 "Guidance for the Ship Alert
Security
> >>System (SSAS)"
> >>http://www.uscg.mil/ccs/cit/cim/directives/CI/CI_3120_3.pdf
> >>
> >>K
> >>
> >>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:09:15 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Michael Rumberg <michael.rumberg at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: Re: [FedCom] Tour Pax Ship Covert Alerting Devices
> To: fedcom at mailman.qth.net
> Cc: milcom at mailman.qth.net
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> Thank Greg.
>
> hmm, thats interesting.
>
> I am used such directives being signed with rank indicated (as stars are
something to be rightly proud of). is this usual just for CG or is it
frequent for the other services to sign with their position titles and not
ranks?
>
>
>
> >From: Greg Brazil <baycomm at earthlink.net>
> >Date: Tue Apr 26 10:10:50 CDT 2005
> >To: Discussion of Federal Government Communications
<fedcom at mailman.qth.net>
> >Cc: MilCom <milcom at mailman.qth.net>
> >Subject: Re: [FedCom] Tour Pax Ship Covert Alerting Devices
>
> >No they don't. The head of the Marines and Coast Guard are the
> >Commandants of their service. There are several Asst Commandants, which
> >is there job title, i.e. for the Coast Guard Asst Commandant for Marine
> >Safety, Operations, Systems, Human Resources, Acquisition, Govt & Public
> >Affairs, then there are Deputy Assistant Commandants. The Asst
> >Commandants are normally a 2 star Admrial.
> >Greg (SF Bay Area)
> >
> >Michael Rumberg wrote:
> >
> >> I know this came across some time ago but I am just getting around to
it.
> >>
> >> I have a question to anyone that is USCG knowledgeable:
> >>
> >> I noticed the instruction is signed by two assistant commandants but
no rank for either is given. I am under the impression that "commandant"
(Navy, Marines, CG) were titles for military members usually O-7 or above;
does the CG have civilians with that those titles as well?
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >>>From: Ken <rfinder1 at verizon.net>
> >>>Date: Sat Apr 02 12:55:52 CST 2005
> >>>To: Discussion of Federal Government Communications
<fedcom at mailman.qth.net>
> >>>Cc: MilCom <milcom at mailman.qth.net>
> >>>Subject: [FedCom] Tour Pax Ship Covert Alerting Devices
> >>
> >>
> >>>Well, I've always wondered about passenger tour ships covertly
alerting
> >>>federal/military authorities in case of a terrorist and/or criminal
type
> >>>attack/incident.. People I've known that have taken these tours have
also
> >>>wondered about this (but most are not really that security aware)...
Of
> >>>course I'm a land luber at heart & can't see myself on a cruise ship
for 3
> >>>to 10 days, but if it's your passion go for it!!!
> >>>
> >>>Some research on the USCG sites indicates that a covert alert system
has
> >>>been installed on pax tour ships..
> >>>
> >>>See USCG Commandant Instruction 3120.3 "Guidance for the Ship Alert
Security
> >>>System (SSAS)"
> >>>http://www.uscg.mil/ccs/cit/cim/directives/CI/CI_3120_3.pdf
> >>>
> >>>K
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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