[FedCom] RE: feds using nextel

tvsjr tvsjr at sprynet.com
Sat Oct 15 16:15:39 EDT 2005


I believe the R-2660 is the only service monitor out there that will do iDEN
(remember that iDEN is a proprietary technology from Motorola, so they have
to license you to build a monitor for it.) And the 2660 doesn't do P25.

Why do you think I sold it (other than the screwy tracking generator?) I got
a deal on it, turned it, and essentially ended up with a very nice HP 8921
(which has very tight specs and more closely resembles a piece of lab
equipment rather than something for the field) for free.

-----Original Message-----
From: fedcom-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:fedcom-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Jeff Kenyon
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 3:01 PM
To: Discussion of Federal Government Communications
Subject: RE: [FedCom] RE: feds using nextel

Wow!  I would have thought you would hav ehad to pay more then $4000 for
something that would do IDEN.  I know that the R-2670 does Apco-25, but is
there a monitor out there that will do both IDEN and P-25?





On Sat, 15 Oct 2005, tvsjr wrote:

> The iDEN service monitors (Motorola R2660) have the same capabilities as
any
> garden-variety monitor. The 2660 I used to own did just fine for tuning
> typical analog radios (other than some weird behavior with the tracking
> generator), but you could also switch it over to iDEN mode.
>
> It wasn't all that expensive, purchased used. I spent under $4K for it. I
> sold it to a service center who could actually make use of the iDEN
> capabilities and bought a monitor that had a tracking generator that
worked
> properly (HP 8921).
>
> There are very, very few P25 monitors out in the used market at this
point.
> Any that you find will be quite spendy.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fedcom-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:fedcom-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of Jeff Kenyon
> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 2:48 PM
> To: Discussion of Federal Government Communications
> Subject: Re: [FedCom] RE: feds using nextel
>
> What other features do those service monitors have other then Nextel
> capabilities?  I know that there is one for P-25, but all the monitors
> mentioned above are very expensive, and keep going up in price!
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 15 Oct 2005, Rankin, Robert L wrote:
>
> > > While using a digital system with encryption is probably the most
> > secure, the feds seem happy with systems that have a huge energy barrier
> > in monitoring. Nextel is a perfect example. Probably the only way the
> > general public could monitor such systems is to buy a service monitor at
> > some insane price.
> >
> > Uh huh.  Exactly.  Now let's all stop and think.  Who is being shut out
of
> monitoring when the Washington Sooperspies use Nextel.  That's right; all
> the harmless little fellows with nickels and dimes to spend on their
> scanning hobby -- in other words, you and me.
> >
> > Now, ask yourself "Who can afford to buy service monitors and actually
> hire telephone engineers to run them and thus monitor sooperspies' comms?"
> That's right, the big drug kingpins, organized crime, big network media,
and
> wealthy terrorist organizations.  I fail to see the utility in this way of
> doing things, especially after millions of dollars of taxpayers' money has
> already been spent on installing encrypted v.h.f. radio systems.  Sure
seems
> strange.
> >
> > Bob, w0nxn
> >
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