[FedCom] DEA

Larry Van Horn, N5FPW n5fpw at brmemc.net
Fri Apr 28 15:23:24 EDT 2006


>If I might be afforded the opportunity to disagree, in part, with your statement...

Tim, you and others are always welcomed to disagree and express your opinion, politefully with anyone on this list. But I would suggest you read my original post again. I was not blasting our list colleague for what he posted, when he posted or how he posted it. In fact, I defended his right to post to the list anyway he wants. Same applies to anyone else. 

Keep in mind this is a radio list that was designed when I created it to exchange fed freqs and nothing more. No detailed conversations of he said, she said, or DEA is busting my neighbors house, etc. Just a polite friendly place to exchange freq info if a poster is so inclined. There is no arm twisting here for people to post anything if they don't want to, most folks including government folks just lurk here and that is just fine. And reporting that a particluar freq you believe from a particular agency is active in your area hurts no one, and violates no laws (unless they are in selected overseas countries).

I'm not one, and I expect others to do the same, to judge what is posted here as long as it is on topic.  That is rule #1. Rule number 2 when I created this list (and milcom/trunkcom), no flaming on or off list for what is posted here is allowed. And rule 3 have fun. 

I personally cannot recall many folks post active operational details of any fed stuff here. Mostly freqs and as I said in my original post, if your in the clear, your fair game. No operational details, just a  freq.

>Having said that, however, I applaud Arthur-Bryan E. Phelps' in using, what seems to be lacking in some folks,...good judgment >and some common sense .  There's nothing that can be more exciting than to come upon an active surveillance detail in progress.  >But having the particulars of that surveillance posted to the web, even before it's concluded, is potentially putting our law >enforcement personnel in harm's way.  Are we as a group so naive as to think that we have a "corner on the market" where radio >monitoring is concerned and that the "bad guys" don't know these lists are here for the viewing?

If a bad guy(s) is waiting for that one intercept on Fedcom to move on his op then he is not the sharpest knife in drawer. This horse has been beat so many times in the nearly 10 years these list have been in existence I wish I had a nickel everytime someone has brought it up. In reality there has never been and will never be someone who uses this or any other of the radio list to plan some sort of counter LE or illegal operation. We as radio monitors and yes this includes the bad guys, just don't have access to the good comms that could give that sort of intel. That occurs elsewhere in places our scanners can not hear or receive. Any other view of what we may or may not hear is a pretty inflated view of the capabilities we think we have.

I don't want to start a long thread on this, just let me say Tim I think you misunderstood my list post. If anyone here is upset with anyone posting a freq they may hear from time to time then you probably should not be here in the first place since that is was this list is for -- the exchange of frequency info. 

Now let's go have some fun and good hunting,

73 de Larry

Larry Van Horn, N5FPW
ATC (AW)      USN (Ret)
Founding Father Milcom/Fedcom/Trunkcom


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