[FedCom] Question for the Group: "Who watches the Watchers?"

[Arthur-Bryan E. Phelps]

I was in charge of the computer/LAN system for several years before my
retirement from government.  Most LE entities can pull up any information on
any individual.  The supervisor in charge was responsible for disseminating
the information to whomever on a "need to know" basis.  Although, I was
criticized before for informing this group that this site is monitored.  You
would have to have dementia not to realize that e-mails and sites that
discuss/share federal frequencies are prime targets for monitoring.  The
owner of this site most likely received a letter from the DHS requesting our
names, etc. I am not here to defend these post 9/11 activities, but privacy
and confidentiality are eroding.  What is done with this information at the
highest levels of government is beyond my personal knowledge. 

-----Original Message-----
From: fedcom-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:fedcom-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of John Wilson
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 6:29 PM
To: Discussion of Federal Government Communications
Subject: Re: [FedCom] Question for the Group: "Who watches the Watchers?"

   Be careful about saying "the only people".  In time that probably will
change.  If you ever get a Medicare card and use it for doctor or bloodwork
services, you have just given your SSN as the Medicare id is your SSN with
an "A" and/or "B"suffix.  Also they will Xerox that card 
and file it in a folder.   Until a few years ago in Virginia your 
driver's license number was your SSN.  DMV got a lot of bad press for
issuing driver's license to several of the September 11th 2001 terrorists.
DMV now calls it a "customer number" and after many complaints from drivers
will assign a non-SSN driver's license id.  Some businesses require your SSN
if you pay for a product or service by check.  If you refuse to provide it,
they can refuse to sell or service you...catch 22. 

Denny B wrote:

>The only people I give my social security number to is Social Security 
>and any financial institutions that I deal with. Anyone else has no 
>legal need to know.
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