[FedCom] Heard 08 October 2006 NYC area

[gary]

Uran233 at aol.com wrote:
>  
> Hello Group
> Here is some thoughts.
>  
> Since this is fedcom here goes.
>  
> 1. When the National Guard goes out in Drug Interdiction in the states.  
> Which Agency would handle the control freqs during the flights? NG or DEA
>  
> 2. I am saving for my SBS-1 Would Federal or NG squawk back the transponder  
> codes?
>    Then the local Traffic center would have a flight to listen  to.

At the moment, only "heavies", transport aircraft, and U2s have mode-s. 
A national guard C-130 or E-3 would certainly squawk, but all you get is 
the ICAO code (often spoofed), a callsign if they feel like entering it, 
and the height of the plane. I suspect the height of the aircraft is 
always accurate, with the exception of U2 aircraft over 60kft. You need 
to indicate to the Kinetic software that you want to track planes 
without position data.

Note you will not see fighter type aircraft on the display. Still, even 
with the limitations, it is a fun toy. The software needs work, so your 
purchase will help fund improvements. ;-)


>  
> 3. This is out there but here we go. What does the Friend or Foe come back  
> to look like on transponder and is this on a second frequency? Do they have  to 
> use this feature in CONUS ?
>  
> 4. I am going to go thru my Jane's book tonight to find transponders then  
> search the web.
>  
> 5. The other idea is to look at the Radar used by the flights and see if I  
> can use a receiver ($$$$) or if it falls in the K-KA-X band and would a 
> modified  radar detector outside in a weather proof box with a led inside facing up 
> be set  off?

The problem with setting up your own radar is, well, licensing to 
transmit. It seems to me the FCC would frown on Joe SixScanner owning 
radar to track aircraft. Marine radar is another story.

The deal with the SBS is it depends on the FAA pinging the plane to make 
the transponder talk. I suspect the SBS-1 is hearing everything on the 
transponder frequency (1090Mhz), but filtering out the simpler 
non-mode-s replies. To interpret the older transponders, you need to 
hear the FAA ping, that is, you need to know the question before hearing 
the answer. The question is either who are you or what is your altitude. 
The reply looks the same in either case, but you interpret the reply 
differently depending on the question.

I'm really amazed the paranoid government types that see terrorist 
everywhere haven't banned the SBS-1. Real time tracking could be 
considered a security risk. Also, if you are using the SBS from a spot 
with a clear view, it become obvious where the FAA radar has holes.


>  
> 6. Thank you all for your ideas and I will send it if anyone wants the info  
> when I get it.
>  
> Monitoring Michael in PA
>  
> Also with encrypted freqs use a little traffic analysis and tools like  
> trunker for getting patterns down.
>  
> To bad Havana Moon was not still alive.
>  
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