[FedCom] White House criticizes news media

Fri Sep 11 21:23:15 EDT 2009

How True.

Wonder how/why no one has complained about the other drill in the DC Area 
also on Sept 11th

Montgomery County METRO and MARC train stations (on platforms,
above and below ground, and riding on the trains) and other undisclosed
locations throughout the county.

During the time period, approximately 150 members
of Montgomery County Police, Sheriff's Office, Fire Marshal's Office,
Rockville City Police, Gaithersburg Police, Takoma Park Police, Maryland
National Capital Park Police, and Federal Air Marshals & Behavior Detection
Officers, will be conducting combined training exercises that will make them
highly visible to community members, especially those using METRO and MARC
trains.  In addition to regular uniformed officers, K-9 teams and SWAT
officers will be part of the exercise.

IF we fail to train we have failed in training.

We now return us to our regular Federal Monitoring.

PS, CAP is pushing fast to complete the Narrowband Conversion of the 
Repeaters.
Listen to 148.1250 and 148.1500 and post what you hear, look for new CTCSS 
tones
and Frequency changes.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <k4dps at aol.com>
To: <fedcom at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [FedCom] White House criticizes news media

> Would have been alot easier if the Coast Guard would have?said, "exercise" 
> after each transmission.? Just another excuse for all Federal Government 
> Agencies to use full time encryption.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill <ecps92 at earthlink.net>
> To: Discussion of Federal Government Communications 
> <fedcom at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Fri, Sep 11, 2009 7:47 pm
> Subject: [FedCom] White House criticizes news media
>
>
>
> The USCG are assigned
>
> Ch 21 157.0500
> Ch.81 157.0750
> Ch.82 157.1250
> Ch.23 157.1500
> Ch.83 157.1750
>
> The Env Ops is a Secondary use, just like CG Aux is a Secondary use of 
> Ch.83
>
> Any frequency can be used for Training.  Apparently [assumption] 83 might 
> be
> used in the DC Area for that.
> Here in Boston, Various stations use alternate VHF Marine channels for
> training, so as to not tie-up the primary
> operational channels.
>
>>From time-to-time folks forget the "This is a Drill" statement.  Pt.
> Allerton would do that quite frequently until recent months.
>
>
>
> IMHO there are too any Criticisms coming from the White House before
> engaging the Thought Process first.
>
>
> Bill Dunn    N1KUG
> Cruise Ship Frequencies
> http://scanmaritime.com
> Now feeding USCG Sector Boston via Team Speak
> info at http://www.scannewengland.net/index.php?pageid=nesflogon
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "ed" <bernies at netaxs.com>
> To: "Discussion of Federal Government Communications"
> <fedcom at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [FedCom] White House criticizes news media for 
> "reporting[that]
> was based on listening to a police scanner"
>
>
>> An excellent article on the website of The Atlantic magazine reports that
>> someone monitored today's controversial USCG emergency exercise on 
>> 157.075
>> (VHF
>> Marine CH 81A.)  It even includes a transcript of the communications:
>>
>> http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/09/the_united_states_coast_guard.php
>>
>>
>> I looked on USCG's own website and it says CH 81A is for "U.S. Government
>> only -
>> Environmental protection operations."  How was this security exercise
>> related to
>> environmental protection operations?
>>
>> http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/vhf.htm
>>
>>
>> The Atlantic article also quotes a USCG spokesman today as saying,
>> "Reports in
>> the media were based on overheard radio calls made over a training
>> frequency."
>>
>> Is that a true statement, or is it a deliberately misleading USCG
>> statement made
>> as an attempt at media damage-control?
>>
>> We in the monito
> ring community are better equipped to get to the bottom of
>> this
>> and help the mainstream media accurately report what really happened.
>> Someone
>> at USCG or CNN should be held accountable, and better policies should be
>> put in
>> place and enforced to prevent more unnecessary public alarm.
>>
>> -Ed
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting Ken <rfinder1 at verizon.net>:
>>
>>> Well was anyone on this list or another list actually monitoring the
>>> exercise and was the term used after transmission "this is an exercise"
>>> and
>>> "simulated" (simulating)  gun fire etc????
>>>
>>> As far as encryption goes, with the federal law enforcement agencies
>>> including DHS units, you can expect to see (hear) that (encryption)
>>> pretty
>>> consistently in the future -- this has little impact on the use &
>>> remember
>>> if someone observes a lot of activity they might also call in a news tip
>>> which would produce similiar media results.    I'm very surprised that
>>> the
>>> USCG was using a VHF marine channel because they have plenty of their 
>>> own
>>> federal VHF frequencies assigned for their use.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "ed" <bernies at netaxs.com>
>>> To: <phillyscanner at yahoogroups.com>
>>> Cc: <fedcom at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:05 PM
>>> Subject: [FedCom] White House criticizes news media for "reporting 
>>> [that]
>>> was based on listening to a police scanner"
>>>
>>>
>>> > When the White House criticizes the news media for "reporting [that]
>>> > was
>>> > based
>>> > on listening to a police scanner", it doesn't bode well for the future
>>> > of
>>> > unencrypted public-safety radio communications.
>>> >
>>> > Doubtless this incident will be used by government radio encryption
>>> > proponents
>>> > to push for more encryption of open, clear government radio
>>> > communications.
>>> >
>>> > -bernieS
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/11/AR2009091101740.html
>>> >
>>> > Radio Traffic Led to False Reports of Gunfire on Potomac
>>> >
>>> > Coast Guard Responds to 'R
> outine Exercise'
>>> >
>>> > CNN anchor Kyra Phillips said on-air that a CNN employee in Washington
>>> > called
>>> > the Coast Guard about the scanner report, "and they said, 'We don't
>>> > know
>>> > what
>>> > you're talking about.' " So we went forward with what we learned."
>>> > Phillips,
>>> > reporting in Atlanta, cited CNN employees in Washington for her
>>> > information.
>>> >
>>> > In one transmission that CNN recorded and broadcast, a Coast Guard
>>> > member
>>> > can be
>>> > heard saying, "Vessel, if you don't slow down, stop your vessel in an 
>>> > R
>>> > zone,
>>> > you will be fired upon." He was apparently referring to a restricted
>>> > zone.
>>> >
>>> > Coast Guard Petty Officer Nick Cangemi said in an interview, "We use a
>>> > frequency
>>> > reserved for the Coast Guard and reserved for training."
>>> >
>>> > Currier said it was possible that Coast Guard personnel had reported
>>> > shots
>>>
>>> > fired
>>> > on the radio as part of the exercise, but he stressed that protocol is
>>> > to
>>> > preface any such transmissions by announcing that they are part of a
>>> > drill.
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