[FedCom] Troops Deploy to Border Areas

Wed Aug 4 12:27:33 EDT 2010

I'm a scanning enthusiast who under normal conditions would never recommend
a P-25 system that would affect my listening or anyone else' but after
hearing from Maricopa deputies complaining that their movements are
monitored via scanner on the Mexican side and the American side as much as
it hurts to say it I think out of all the different  police agencies that
are going P-25 this would be a situation where it makes the most sense to
encrypt.

FYI I live in Sonoma County....I monitor a partial P-25 system (Marin
County) here where they encrypt a few TG's but most of the system is out in
the open. But when I really think about it I'm actually glad that those TG's
are encrypted because there are smart criminals out there and digital
scanners are not hard to find.

-Roger

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 5:48 AM, Duane Donovan <ironman68_1998 at yahoo.com>
wrote:
> If they all go to full encryption we will not be able to hear anything. If
you don't want to hear anything why do you listen?
> Duane
>
>
> --- On Tue, 8/3/10, Roger Strohmeyer <roger.stroh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Roger Strohmeyer <roger.stroh at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [FedCom] Troops Deploy to Border Areas
>> To: "Discussion of Federal Government Communications" <
fedcom at mailman.qth.net>
>> Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 10:53 PM
>> Interesting. I wonder if the BP
>> simply issues the NG portables, vice
>> versa, or if the NG has a way to "patch me through to Dano"
>> to the
>> BP's P-25 system?
>>
>> IMHO It would make sense for places like Maricopa County to
>> consider a
>> full blown P-25 system....too many "bad" prying ears
>> listening for PD
>> movements.
>>
>> -Roger
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Duane Donovan <ironman68_1998 at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > BP uses those P25 radios with full encryption. Back in
>> 2003 and 2006 I went to South Texas and visited my sister's
>> family. It was all in the clear. These days they are all
>> encrypted. Now My sister lives in New York. When I go up
>> there I will take my BC996T and see what I can find.
>> >
>> > Duane
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Mon, 8/2/10, Roger Strohmeyer <roger.stroh at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > From: Roger Strohmeyer <roger.stroh at gmail.com>
>> > > Subject: Re: [FedCom] Troops Deploy to Border
>> Areas
>> > > To: "Discussion of Federal Government
>> Communications" <fedcom at mailman.qth.net>
>> > > Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 9:26 PM
>> > > And the deployment of the NG
>> > > *started* August 1st with no actual date when
>> > > they will actually be in place...just another
>> foot dragging
>> > > Obama dog and
>> > > pony show that adds up to nothing but a facade
>> &
>> > > joke....and the joke is on
>> > > the decent people of the people of places like
>> southern
>> > > Arizona who are
>> > > literally being overrun. I mean, let's be fair
>> here...the
>> > > last
>> > > Administration handled the border\Illegal
>> Immigration
>> > > issues very, very
>> > > poorly too. Too many big people making big money
>> off of
>> > > Illegals and some
>> > > that value them for their eventual votes hence
>> the term
>> > > "Undocumented
>> > > Democrats". ;-) What a mess.
>> > >
>> > > Anyway, back to monitoring part I suppose the BP
>> and NG
>> > > will have some sort
>> > > of nifty encrypted radios for communicating or
>> perhaps
>> > > they'll use something
>> > > as simple as Nextel?
>> > >
>> > > I was hoping Radio Reference might have somebody
>> that was
>> > > gutsy enough to
>> > > setup a Border Patrol feed but that doesn't seem
>> to be the
>> > > case. ;-)
>> > >
>> > > http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?stid=4
>> > >
>> > > -Roger
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Duane Donovan
>> <ironman68_1998 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > They can train on whatever they want. The BP
>> agents
>> > > have to babysit the NG.
>> > > > The great pumkin might get them. NOT, repeat
>> NOT
>> > > ALLOWED at election time.
>> > > > The drones are being used for speed
>> enforcement of
>> > > U>S> drivers. There will
>> > > > be no, repeat no attempt to stop the
>> illegals. If the
>> > > NG carried ammo and
>> > > > went out to actively enforce the border then
>> they
>> > > would acomplish something.
>> > > > Duane
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --- On Sun, 8/1/10, lists at lazygranch.com
>> > > <lists at lazygranch.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > From: lists at lazygranch.com
>> > > <lists at lazygranch.com>
>> > > > > Subject: Re: [FedCom] Troops Deploy to
>> Border
>> > > Areas
>> > > > > To: "Discussion of Federal Government
>> > > Communications" <
>> > > > fedcom at mailman.qth.net>
>> > > > > Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 10:07 AM
>> > > > > Its a dog and pony show unless the
>> > > > > national guard frees up ICE personal
>> who were
>> > > doing the
>> > > > > paperwork to get their boots on the
>> ground.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If they are running Predator drones at
>> the
>> > > border, I could
>> > > > > see the national guard aiding there.
>> BTW, the
>> > > guard trains
>> > > > > on UAVs at KVCV.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: Duane Donovan <ironman68_1998 at yahoo.com>
>> > > > > Sender: fedcom-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>> > > > > Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 06:19:26
>> > > > > To: Discussion of Federal Government
>> > > Communications<
>> > > > fedcom at mailman.qth.net>
>> > > > > Reply-To: Discussion of Federal
>> Government
>> > > Communications
>> > > > >     <fedcom at mailman.qth.net>
>> > > > > Subject: Re: [FedCom] Troops Deploy to
>> Border
>> > > Areas
>> > > > >
>> > > > > My Brother-in-law is a Border Patrol
>> Agent. The
>> > > NG mans
>> > > > > static posts and the BP agents have to
>> stay with
>> > > them to
>> > > > > protect them from the drug cartels. No
>> patrolling
>> > > gets done.
>> > > > > The NG has zero rounds. It is all a dog
>> and pony
>> > > show.
>> > > > > Duane
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --- On Sat, 7/31/10, gary <lists at lazygranch.com>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > From: gary <lists at lazygranch.com>
>> > > > > > Subject: Re: [FedCom] Troops
>> Deploy to
>> > > Border Areas
>> > > > > > To: "Discussion of Federal
>> Government
>> > > Communications"
>> > > > > <fedcom at mailman.qth.net>
>> > > > > > Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010,
>> 8:12 PM
>> > > > > > The original news reports said
>> the
>> > > > > > troops would be filing paper.
>> Reality
>> > > > > > is always another story. The
>> government
>> > > tries to
>> > > > > avoid
>> > > > > > appearances of
>> > > > > > violating Posse Comitatus.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On 7/31/2010 4:27 PM, Chris Parris
>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > National Guard troops are
>> beginning
>> > > their
>> > > > > deployment
>> > > > > > along the US-
>> > > > > > > Mexico border. Troops will be
>> deployed
>> > > in Texas,
>> > > > > New
>> > > > > > Mexico, Arizona
>> > > > > > > and California to help
>> support the
>> > > Border Patrol
>> > > > > with
>> > > > > > border security.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > <snip>
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