[FedCom] Troops Deploy to Border Areas

Wed Aug 4 18:25:59 EDT 2010

I am a Deputy Sheriff and I hate encryption. We have a Pro Voice system here in Louisiana and no one can hear it and come to my aid. The state is rolling out a 700mhz P25 and hopefully we will be able to scan it. So far it is open but once it is on throughout the state it may be encrypted. We are a small rural department so citizens coming to help us sometimes could be a good thing. 
Duane 

--- On Wed, 8/4/10, Roger Strohmeyer <roger.stroh at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Roger Strohmeyer <roger.stroh at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [FedCom] Troops Deploy to Border Areas
> To: "Discussion of Federal Government Communications" <fedcom at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 12:27 PM
> I'm a scanning enthusiast who under
> normal conditions would never recommend
> a P-25 system that would affect my listening or anyone
> else' but after
> hearing from Maricopa deputies complaining that their
> movements are
> monitored via scanner on the Mexican side and the American
> side as much as
> it hurts to say it I think out of all the different 
> police agencies that
> are going P-25 this would be a situation where it makes the
> most sense to
> encrypt.
> 
> FYI I live in Sonoma County....I monitor a partial P-25
> system (Marin
> County) here where they encrypt a few TG's but most of the
> system is out in
> the open. But when I really think about it I'm actually
> glad that those TG's
> are encrypted because there are smart criminals out there
> and digital
> scanners are not hard to find.
> 
> -Roger
> 
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 5:48 AM, Duane Donovan <ironman68_1998 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > If they all go to full encryption we will not be able
> to hear anything. If
> you don't want to hear anything why do you listen?
> > Duane
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 8/3/10, Roger Strohmeyer <roger.stroh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Roger Strohmeyer <roger.stroh at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [FedCom] Troops Deploy to Border
> Areas
> >> To: "Discussion of Federal Government
> Communications" <
> fedcom at mailman.qth.net>
> >> Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 10:53 PM
> >> Interesting. I wonder if the BP
> >> simply issues the NG portables, vice
> >> versa, or if the NG has a way to "patch me through
> to Dano"
> >> to the
> >> BP's P-25 system?
> >>
> >> IMHO It would make sense for places like Maricopa
> County to
> >> consider a
> >> full blown P-25 system....too many "bad" prying
> ears
> >> listening for PD
> >> movements.
> >>
> >> -Roger
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Duane Donovan
> <ironman68_1998 at yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > BP uses those P25 radios with full
> encryption. Back in
> >> 2003 and 2006 I went to South Texas and visited my
> sister's
> >> family. It was all in the clear. These days they
> are all
> >> encrypted. Now My sister lives in New York. When I
> go up
> >> there I will take my BC996T and see what I can
> find.
> >> >
> >> > Duane
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- On Mon, 8/2/10, Roger Strohmeyer <roger.stroh at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > From: Roger Strohmeyer <roger.stroh at gmail.com>
> >> > > Subject: Re: [FedCom] Troops Deploy to
> Border
> >> Areas
> >> > > To: "Discussion of Federal Government
> >> Communications" <fedcom at mailman.qth.net>
> >> > > Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 9:26 PM
> >> > > And the deployment of the NG
> >> > > *started* August 1st with no actual date
> when
> >> > > they will actually be in place...just
> another
> >> foot dragging
> >> > > Obama dog and
> >> > > pony show that adds up to nothing but a
> facade
> >> &
> >> > > joke....and the joke is on
> >> > > the decent people of the people of
> places like
> >> southern
> >> > > Arizona who are
> >> > > literally being overrun. I mean, let's
> be fair
> >> here...the
> >> > > last
> >> > > Administration handled the
> border\Illegal
> >> Immigration
> >> > > issues very, very
> >> > > poorly too. Too many big people making
> big money
> >> off of
> >> > > Illegals and some
> >> > > that value them for their eventual votes
> hence
> >> the term
> >> > > "Undocumented
> >> > > Democrats". ;-) What a mess.
> >> > >
> >> > > Anyway, back to monitoring part I
> suppose the BP
> >> and NG
> >> > > will have some sort
> >> > > of nifty encrypted radios for
> communicating or
> >> perhaps
> >> > > they'll use something
> >> > > as simple as Nextel?
> >> > >
> >> > > I was hoping Radio Reference might have
> somebody
> >> that was
> >> > > gutsy enough to
> >> > > setup a Border Patrol feed but that
> doesn't seem
> >> to be the
> >> > > case. ;-)
> >> > >
> >> > > http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?stid=4
> >> > >
> >> > > -Roger
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Duane
> Donovan
> >> <ironman68_1998 at yahoo.com>wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > They can train on whatever they
> want. The BP
> >> agents
> >> > > have to babysit the NG.
> >> > > > The great pumkin might get them.
> NOT, repeat
> >> NOT
> >> > > ALLOWED at election time.
> >> > > > The drones are being used for
> speed
> >> enforcement of
> >> > > U>S> drivers. There will
> >> > > > be no, repeat no attempt to stop
> the
> >> illegals. If the
> >> > > NG carried ammo and
> >> > > > went out to actively enforce the
> border then
> >> they
> >> > > would acomplish something.
> >> > > > Duane
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- On Sun, 8/1/10, lists at lazygranch.com
> >> > > <lists at lazygranch.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > From: lists at lazygranch.com
> >> > > <lists at lazygranch.com>
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: [FedCom] Troops
> Deploy to
> >> Border
> >> > > Areas
> >> > > > > To: "Discussion of Federal
> Government
> >> > > Communications" <
> >> > > > fedcom at mailman.qth.net>
> >> > > > > Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010,
> 10:07 AM
> >> > > > > Its a dog and pony show unless
> the
> >> > > > > national guard frees up ICE
> personal
> >> who were
> >> > > doing the
> >> > > > > paperwork to get their boots
> on the
> >> ground.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > If they are running Predator
> drones at
> >> the
> >> > > border, I could
> >> > > > > see the national guard aiding
> there.
> >> BTW, the
> >> > > guard trains
> >> > > > > on UAVs at KVCV.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > From: Duane Donovan <ironman68_1998 at yahoo.com>
> >> > > > > Sender: fedcom-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> >> > > > > Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010
> 06:19:26
> >> > > > > To: Discussion of Federal
> Government
> >> > > Communications<
> >> > > > fedcom at mailman.qth.net>
> >> > > > > Reply-To: Discussion of
> Federal
> >> Government
> >> > > Communications
> >> > > > >     <fedcom at mailman.qth.net>
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: [FedCom] Troops
> Deploy to
> >> Border
> >> > > Areas
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > My Brother-in-law is a Border
> Patrol
> >> Agent. The
> >> > > NG mans
> >> > > > > static posts and the BP agents
> have to
> >> stay with
> >> > > them to
> >> > > > > protect them from the drug
> cartels. No
> >> patrolling
> >> > > gets done.
> >> > > > > The NG has zero rounds. It is
> all a dog
> >> and pony
> >> > > show.
> >> > > > > Duane
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --- On Sat, 7/31/10, gary
> <lists at lazygranch.com>
> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > From: gary <lists at lazygranch.com>
> >> > > > > > Subject: Re: [FedCom]
> Troops
> >> Deploy to
> >> > > Border Areas
> >> > > > > > To: "Discussion of
> Federal
> >> Government
> >> > > Communications"
> >> > > > > <fedcom at mailman.qth.net>
> >> > > > > > Date: Saturday, July 31,
> 2010,
> >> 8:12 PM
> >> > > > > > The original news reports
> said
> >> the
> >> > > > > > troops would be filing
> paper.
> >> Reality
> >> > > > > > is always another story.
> The
> >> government
> >> > > tries to
> >> > > > > avoid
> >> > > > > > appearances of
> >> > > > > > violating Posse
> Comitatus.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On 7/31/2010 4:27 PM,
> Chris Parris
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > National Guard
> troops are
> >> beginning
> >> > > their
> >> > > > > deployment
> >> > > > > > along the US-
> >> > > > > > > Mexico border.
> Troops will be
> >> deployed
> >> > > in Texas,
> >> > > > > New
> >> > > > > > Mexico, Arizona
> >> > > > > > > and California to
> help
> >> support the
> >> > > Border Patrol
> >> > > > > with
> >> > > > > > border security.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > <snip>
> >>
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