[FedCom] 150.7375 Philadelphia

[Steve]

As are other states for their new statewide VHF systems. Here in 
Missouri, the new VHF statewide P25 system, MOSWIN, is using 
frequencies once reserved for federal use only. Here, I don't think 
I've seen any in the lower part of the band but they are setting up 
shop near the top of the band on what once were fed use only 
frequencies. I think in many cases, the feds enter into an agreement 
where they are allowed use of the statewide system in exchange for 
letting a state government use the frequency. No idea who funds the 
radios in those cases though and I'd imagine that varies by state. It 
makes a lot of sense as the feds have a LOT of VHF assignments that 
are never used in a given area so why not let the states use those 
unused frequencies. Missouri has also obtained permission to use 
certain frequencies in the VHF paging band of 152 MHz. The licenses 
for the state sites on those frequencies will not show up in a 
standard FCC search. I think the ones on the federal frequencies do 
show up in a FCC search though.

Our counties (St. Louis County, MO) EMWIN broadcast used to be on a 
standard UHF repeater output frequency (460.350 I think) but they 
shut that down several years ago now unfortunately. I enjoyed 
decoding it and watching the broadcasts come across although the 
local group that ran it did strip most of the graphic products from 
the radio transmission. There were constant radio problems as the 
radio was not designed for a 100% duty cycle which EMWIN was pushing 
it. It also had a pretty good output power. Maybe as much as 200 
watts before the antenna. Don't really recall those details. I just 
know it could be heard countywide with no problems even in the valleys.


At 02:39 PM 2/8/2013, you wrote:
>While fairly rare, local and state government use of the VHF LMR 
>band isn't without precedent.  Various county emergency management 
>agencies have obtained permission to use freqs in this band to 
>rebroadcast EMWIN weather data.  In addition, the State of Wisconsin 
>is using freqs in that band for their statewide WISCOM trunked 
>system http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=6364 .
>
>FWIW.....
>
>On 2/8/2013 11:00 AM, fedcom-request at mailman.qth.net wrote:
>
>>Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 15:05:41 -0500
>>From: "Larry Van Horn-N5FPW" <n5fpw at brmemc.net>
>>To: "Discussion of Federal Government Communications"
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>>Subject: Re: [FedCom] 150.7375 Philadelphia
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>>>if you do a google search it says that it could be used for skywarn members
>>>in lehigh county
>>
>>If that is accurate (and I saw the same search you did without any
>>attribution and 4 entries tied to the same site), I bet DoD isn't happy
>>about that intrusion into their LMR band. ;-)
>>
>>73 de Larry
>>
>>Larry Van Horn, N5FPW
>>Brasstown, NC USA
>>MT Assistant/Review/Technical Editor
>>Milcom Monitoring Post http://mt-milcom.blogspot.com/
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