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[bernieS]

Yes, I'm pretty sure others would like to know the FBI 2 Meter 
repeater frequency in Philly.  I don't know it; an FBI tech friend 
who's always been straight with me told me about it.  And I'm sure 
the FBI techs who set it up don't want it listed in any common 
amateur reference guides, as that might get some hams whining about it.

Like I said, it seldom gets traffic and was basically setup for fun 
by some FBI techs who are hams and use it for encrypted 
traffic.  They don't want other users on it.  I doubt they have any 
concerns about the FCC.  And I doubt the FCC would want to 
investigate, especially if nobody complains (see Sentence #3).

Just because "none of the common Amateur reference guides show a P25 
2m Repeater in the area" doesn't mean there isn't one.  Btw there's a 
P25 70cm repeater set up by another gov't tech in NJ a mile from 
Philly in Camden on 442.150, but that's off-topic because it's not 
used for Federal Comms.



At 07:06 PM 6/27/2019, ~Bill wrote:
>You said and I quote
>" I forget the frequency, but can find out.  "
>
>Many of us would like to know, especially since none of the common Amateur
>reference guides show a P25 2m Repeater in the area.
>
>
>Bill - N1KUG
>Boston, Mass
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>I don't know.  I think FBI restricts the traffic for encrypted users only.
>But it's really a thing, no joke.
>
>
>At 08:28 PM 6/26/2019, ~Bill wrote:
>
> >So what is the Frequency for those of us who visit Phi and want to use the
> >Repeater
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
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> >On Behalf Of bernieS
> >Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 9:39 PM
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> >Yes, encryption on amateur radio is illegal if one of us does it.  The FBI
> >personnel who built the 2M encrypted repeater system (one of whom is a
> >friend) found a legal loophole.  Do you really believe the FCC will issue a
> >NAL against FBI?  The repeater is rarely used.  They had some money and
>gear
> >left over and decided to put it up.  No joke.
> >
> >
> >At 05:58 PM 6/24/2019, ~Bill wrote:
> > >ENC on Amateur is illegal, sounds like someone is pulling someones
> > >chain
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
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> > >On Behalf Of bernieS
> > >Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 3:24 PM
> > >To: Arthur Samel; Discussion of Federal Government Communications
> > >Subject: Re: [FedCom] FedCom
> > >
> > >I'm also in the Philadelphia area.  Speaking of encryption, the FBI
> > >operates a 2M P25 amateur repeater in Philadelphia that uses
> > >encryption.  A FBI employee who's a ham told me about it.  I forget the
> > >frequency, but can find out.  I just though it's interesting.  He told
> > >me the key isn't very hard to guess.
> > >
> > >
> > >At 02:43 PM 6/24/2019, Arthur Samel via FedCom wrote:
> > >
> > > >here from Philadelphia area
> > > >
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