[GreenKeys] (no subject)
gil smith
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Tue, 19 Nov 2002 07:43:01 -0700
Dunno what that was all about, but he's deleted.
gil
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> 2. ASCII codes (O. Warren)
> 3. Some Documentation on ASCII ([email protected])
> 4. PAPER / TAPE - where to get (tony j. podrasky)
> 5. TELETYPE paper/tape (tony j. podrasky)
> 6. TELETYPE paper (tony j. podrasky)
> 7. Re: PAPER / TAPE - where to get (Tadashi Ishimori)
> 8. Re: PAPER / TAPE - where to get (Tadashi Ishimori)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 06:47:20 -0500 (EST)
>From: cswiger <[email protected]>
>To: Robert McConnell <[email protected]>
>Cc: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Original meaning of ASCII codes
>
>Tks - we've been studying a 1976 BASIC source and was wondering
>about a ^T in the 'READY' string - NOW it makes sense. You turn
>on the paper tape punch, list the program to tape, and BASIC
>automatically switches off the punch before printing READY. I'll
>have to run that by the author and see if he recalls that now.
>
> Chuck
>
>Bonus: Pangrams (sentences with every character of the alphabet)
>'pack my box with five dozen liquor jugs' has 32 letters
>'the quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' has 33 letters
>of course we don't want test messages that look like wholesale
>orders for booze.
>
>On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, Robert McConnell wrote:
>
>> Good morning,
>>
>> I found this while searching for something else a few weeks ago. Some of
>> you might find it useful.
>>
>> DC4 14 ^T device control 4 -- turn off the paper tape punch.
>>
>>
>
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>Message: 2
>From: "O. Warren" <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:13:20 -0700
>Subject: [GreenKeys] ASCII codes
>
>
>
>Hi list....
>
>I'm a retired Western Union Field Service Technician/"Tech Rep".
>I went to W.U. school for all the various "Teletypes", from the Model 15 on,
>excluding the Model 40 video/computer terminal..
>
>They told us that the ASCII code system and the 33's and 35's were designed
>to be a computer interface, in addition to being a teletype code and
>function, and that only about 1/3rd of the possible ASCII codes had been
>used in the model 33's and 35's! Therefor, the "Escape" key was put there
>to "escape" from teletype communications functions and enter into computer
>functions as computer engineers might want to come up with.
>
>The Control D disconnect function was put on these machines for a reason, .
>Pushing the "end" or "disconnect" button on a TWX only had the function of
>killing the outgoing data set (modem) tones which either the TWX or
>telephone systems, whichever they were used on, would recognize as a carrier
>loss, a malfunction, and cause a disconnect. However this type of a
>disconnect took a couple or three seconds, and couldn't be put intro the
>tape nor set up as a pre set code. The Control D function set up a
>disconnect code function both in the tape and simultaneously set up machine
>functions at each end to initiate the machine's disconnect simultaneously
>from each end, which was instantious. This speeded up the communications
>process.
>
>The ENQ was the same as a WRU key, which meant "Who Are you", which sent an
>interrogation signal to the distant end which triggered it's "Answer back"
>("music box?) system which identified the terminal at the distant end.
>Contrary to the operator setting up this coding, this was a technician
>function as the operator wasn't trained in this matter, didn't have the
>ASCII code, lacked the "drum" where the code was programmed, and the
>operator setting this up would risk voiding the maintenance contract with
>the customer! This "Answer Back" enabled "proof" that a message had
>actually been received at the unattended distant end by exchanging "answer
>backs" at both the beginning and end of the message, assuming that it had
>sufficient paper to do the job, and that it's "paper out" compacts were
>working to kill the incoming call if the paper ran out.
>
>Control Z was a "End of File" indicator as is still used at the end of
>computer programs, etc. This and NNNN (4 N's) was also an International
>signal that disconnected the call and turned off the radios used to convey
>the message in International radio message traffic. This is (or was)
>necessary with RCA, ITT, WUI, MacKay Radio to ships at sea, etc..
>
>Dick, W7TIO
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:36:59 -0600 (CST)
>From: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [GreenKeys] Some Documentation on ASCII
>
>R. W. Bemer, "The American Standard Cord for Information Interchange",
>DATAMATION, August 1963 p. 32 and September 1963 p. 39.
>
>R. W. Bemer, "A View of the History of the ISO Character Code", Honeywell
>Computer Journal, 1972, p. 274.
>
>J. F. Auwaerter, "A New Standard Code for Teletypewriters", Bell
>Laboratories Record, date unknown.
>
>Fred W. Smith, "New American Standard Code for Information Interchange",
>Western Union Technical Review, April 1964, p. 50.
>
>Fred W. Smith, "Revised U.S.A. Standard Cord for Information Interchange",
>Western Union Technical Review, November 1967, p. 184.
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:32:36 -0800
>From: "tony j. podrasky" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation - San Diego Division
>To: RTTY E-MAIL GROUP <[email protected]>
>Subject: [GreenKeys] PAPER / TAPE - where to get
>
>Hey Guys;
>
>Although I've been exposed to the WWW since its inception, I never stop
>being amazed - when I use a search engine, and enter something "weird" -
>and it comes up with sites:
>
>Hummmm - I need Teletype Paper. I wonder where I can get some... How
>'bout "Seach TELETYPE PAPER".
>
> BAM!
>
>Here's a site that carries paper/tape/ribbons.
>
> <http://www.westnc.com/paptape.html>
>
>73,
>W6ESE / ex-WA2EAA
>--
>Tony J. Podrasky "And the fox said to the little prince:' Men have
> tony.podrasky forgotten this truth - but you must never forget it:
> @ You become responsible, forever, for what you have
> hp.com tamed.'" -- Antoine De Saint-Exupery
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>Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:59:32 -0800
>From: "tony j. podrasky" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation - San Diego Division
>To: RTTY E-MAIL GROUP <[email protected]>
>Subject: [GreenKeys] TELETYPE paper/tape
>
>OK - even better prices - and single rolls:
>
>
><http://www.servmart.org/index.cfm?action=cat.product&categoryid=1323>
>
>regards,
>tonyp
>
>--
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> tony.podrasky | the street at an intersection? Well, regardless
> @ | what you have been told they *do* react to how
> hp.com | hard and how many times they have been pressed,
> | and adjust the traffic light accordingly.
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>Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 15:23:35 -0800
>From: "tony j. podrasky" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation - San Diego Division
>To: RTTY E-MAIL GROUP <[email protected]>
>Subject: [GreenKeys] TELETYPE paper
>
>OK - one last site! At $1.75/roll for Canary Yellow I just *HAD* to let
>everyone know! They had 100 rolls - until I bought 2 cases...
>
> <http://www.sciplus.com/category.cfm?subsection=11&category=109>
>
>73,
>W6ESE / ex-WA2EAA
>
>--
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> tony.podrasky Wonderin' where my life is leading.
> @ Rolling on, to the bitter end.
> hp.com -Bad Company
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>Message: 7
>From: "Tadashi Ishimori" <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>,
> "RTTY E-MAIL GROUP" <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] PAPER / TAPE - where to get
>Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:18:56 +0900
>
>Hi Tony,
>
>You can find various paper rolls and tapes in 'Western Numerical Control'.
>The WWW page is <http://www.westnc.com/paptape.html#tty>.
>
>73's
>Taddy / JK1VXE
>
>> Hey Guys;
>>
>> Although I've been exposed to the WWW since its inception, I never stop
>> being amazed - when I use a search engine, and enter something "weird" -
>> and it comes up with sites:
>>
>> Hummmm - I need Teletype Paper. I wonder where I can get some... How
>> 'bout "Seach TELETYPE PAPER".
>>
>> BAM!
>>
>> Here's a site that carries paper/tape/ribbons.
>>
>> <http://www.westnc.com/paptape.html>
>>
>> 73,
>> W6ESE / ex-WA2EAA
>> --
>> Tony J. Podrasky "And the fox said to the little prince:' Men have
>> tony.podrasky forgotten this truth - but you must never forget it:
>> @ You become responsible, forever, for what you have
>> hp.com tamed.'" -- Antoine De Saint-Exupery
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>Message: 8
>From: "Tadashi Ishimori" <[email protected]>
>To: "Tadashi Ishimori" <[email protected]>,
> <[email protected]>,
> "RTTY E-MAIL GROUP" <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] PAPER / TAPE - where to get
>Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:34:00 +0900
>
>Tony,
>
>Very sorry but, you already found the WNC by youself.
>I bought some papers from them few times and was provided
>good service. The shipping cost to Japan is higher than the item
>cost. hi
>
>737s
>Taddy / JK1VXE
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tadashi Ishimori" <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>; "RTTY E-MAIL GROUP" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:18 AM
>Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] PAPER / TAPE - where to get
>
>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> You can find various paper rolls and tapes in 'Western Numerical Control'.
>> The WWW page is <http://www.westnc.com/paptape.html#tty>.
>>
>> 73's
>> Taddy / JK1VXE
>>
>> > Hey Guys;
>> >
>> > Although I've been exposed to the WWW since its inception, I never stop
>> > being amazed - when I use a search engine, and enter something "weird" -
>> > and it comes up with sites:
>> >
>> > Hummmm - I need Teletype Paper. I wonder where I can get some... How
>> > 'bout "Seach TELETYPE PAPER".
>> >
>> > BAM!
>> >
>> > Here's a site that carries paper/tape/ribbons.
>> >
>> > <http://www.westnc.com/paptape.html>
>> >
>> > 73,
>> > W6ESE / ex-WA2EAA
>> > --
>> > Tony J. Podrasky "And the fox said to the little prince:' Men have
>> > tony.podrasky forgotten this truth - but you must never forget it:
>> > @ You become responsible, forever, for what you have
>> > hp.com tamed.'" -- Antoine De Saint-Exupery
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>Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] great spam killer
>Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:28:01 -0800
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:06 AM
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>
> I've been getting so much junk mail that I'm resorting to
> a draconian mechanism to avoid the mail. In order
> to make sure that there's a real person sending mail, I'm
> asking you to explicitly enable access. To do that, send
> mail to bwc at this domain with the token:
> ZnczA
> in the subject of your mail message. After that, you
> shouldn't get any bounces from me. Sorry if this is
> an inconvenience.
>
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> 1. Re: Original meaning of ASCII codes (cswiger)
> 2. ASCII codes (O. Warren)
> 3. Some Documentation on ASCII ([email protected])
> 4. PAPER / TAPE - where to get (tony j. podrasky)
> 5. TELETYPE paper/tape (tony j. podrasky)
> 6. TELETYPE paper (tony j. podrasky)
> 7. Re: PAPER / TAPE - where to get (Tadashi Ishimori)
> 8. Re: PAPER / TAPE - where to get (Tadashi Ishimori)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 06:47:20 -0500 (EST)
> From: cswiger <[email protected]>
> To: Robert McConnell <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Original meaning of ASCII codes
>
> Tks - we've been studying a 1976 BASIC source and was wondering
> about a ^T in the 'READY' string - NOW it makes sense. You turn
> on the paper tape punch, list the program to tape, and BASIC
> automatically switches off the punch before printing READY. I'll
> have to run that by the author and see if he recalls that now.
>
> Chuck
>
> Bonus: Pangrams (sentences with every character of the alphabet)
> 'pack my box with five dozen liquor jugs' has 32 letters
> 'the quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' has 33 letters
> of course we don't want test messages that look like wholesale
> orders for booze.
>
> On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, Robert McConnell wrote:
>
> > Good morning,
> >
> > I found this while searching for something else a few weeks ago. =
>Some of
> > you might find it useful.
> >
> > DC4 14 ^T device control 4 -- turn off the paper tape punch.
> >
> >
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> From: "O. Warren" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:13:20 -0700
> Subject: [GreenKeys] ASCII codes
>
>
>
> Hi list....
>
> I'm a retired Western Union Field Service Technician/"Tech Rep".
> I went to W.U. school for all the various "Teletypes", from the Model =
>15 on,
> excluding the Model 40 video/computer terminal..
>
> They told us that the ASCII code system and the 33's and 35's were =
>designed
> to be a computer interface, in addition to being a teletype code and
> function, and that only about 1/3rd of the possible ASCII codes had =
>been
> used in the model 33's and 35's! Therefor, the "Escape" key was put =
>there
> to "escape" from teletype communications functions and enter into =
>computer
> functions as computer engineers might want to come up with.
>
> The Control D disconnect function was put on these machines for a =
>reason, .
> Pushing the "end" or "disconnect" button on a TWX only had the =
>function of
> killing the outgoing data set (modem) tones which either the TWX or
> telephone systems, whichever they were used on, would recognize as a =
>carrier
> loss, a malfunction, and cause a disconnect. However this type of a
> disconnect took a couple or three seconds, and couldn't be put intro =
>the
> tape nor set up as a pre set code. The Control D function set up a
> disconnect code function both in the tape and simultaneously set up =
>machine
> functions at each end to initiate the machine's disconnect =
>simultaneously
> from each end, which was instantious. This speeded up the =
>communications
> process.
>
> The ENQ was the same as a WRU key, which meant "Who Are you", which =
>sent an
> interrogation signal to the distant end which triggered it's "Answer =
>back"
> ("music box?) system which identified the terminal at the distant end.
> Contrary to the operator setting up this coding, this was a technician
> function as the operator wasn't trained in this matter, didn't have =
>the
> ASCII code, lacked the "drum" where the code was programmed, and the
> operator setting this up would risk voiding the maintenance contract =
>with
> the customer! This "Answer Back" enabled "proof" that a message had
> actually been received at the unattended distant end by exchanging =
>"answer
> backs" at both the beginning and end of the message, assuming that it =
>had
> sufficient paper to do the job, and that it's "paper out" compacts =
>were
> working to kill the incoming call if the paper ran out.
>
> Control Z was a "End of File" indicator as is still used at the end of
> computer programs, etc. This and NNNN (4 N's) was also an =
>International
> signal that disconnected the call and turned off the radios used to =
>convey
> the message in International radio message traffic. This is (or was)
> necessary with RCA, ITT, WUI, MacKay Radio to ships at sea, etc..
>
> Dick, W7TIO
>
>
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:36:59 -0600 (CST)
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [GreenKeys] Some Documentation on ASCII
>
> R. W. Bemer, "The American Standard Cord for Information Interchange",
> DATAMATION, August 1963 p. 32 and September 1963 p. 39.
>
> R. W. Bemer, "A View of the History of the ISO Character Code", =
>Honeywell
> Computer Journal, 1972, p. 274.
>
> J. F. Auwaerter, "A New Standard Code for Teletypewriters", Bell=20
> Laboratories Record, date unknown.
>
> Fred W. Smith, "New American Standard Code for Information =
>Interchange",
> Western Union Technical Review, April 1964, p. 50.
>
> Fred W. Smith, "Revised U.S.A. Standard Cord for Information =
>Interchange",
> Western Union Technical Review, November 1967, p. 184.
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:32:36 -0800
> From: "tony j. podrasky" <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation - San Diego Division
> To: RTTY E-MAIL GROUP <[email protected]>
> Subject: [GreenKeys] PAPER / TAPE - where to get
>
> Hey Guys;
>
> Although I've been exposed to the WWW since its inception, I never =
>stop
> being amazed - when I use a search engine, and enter something "weird" =
>-
> and it comes up with sites:
>
> Hummmm - I need Teletype Paper. I wonder where I can get some... How
> 'bout "Seach TELETYPE PAPER".
>
> BAM!
>
> Here's a site that carries paper/tape/ribbons.
>
> <http://www.westnc.com/paptape.html>
>
> 73,
> W6ESE / ex-WA2EAA
> --=20
> Tony J. Podrasky "And the fox said to the little prince:' Men have
> tony.podrasky forgotten this truth - but you must never forget it:
> @ You become responsible, forever, for what you have
> hp.com tamed.'" -- Antoine De Saint-Exupery
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:59:32 -0800
> From: "tony j. podrasky" <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation - San Diego Division
> To: RTTY E-MAIL GROUP <[email protected]>
> Subject: [GreenKeys] TELETYPE paper/tape
>
> OK - even better prices - and single rolls:
>
> =20
> =
><http://www.servmart.org/index.cfm?action=3Dcat.product&categoryid=3D1323=
>>
>
> regards,
> tonyp
>
> --=20
> Tony J. Podrasky | You know those little buttons you press to cross=20
> tony.podrasky | the street at an intersection? Well, regardless=20
> @ | what you have been told they *do* react to how=20
> hp.com | hard and how many times they have been pressed,=20
> | and adjust the traffic light accordingly.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 15:23:35 -0800
> From: "tony j. podrasky" <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation - San Diego Division
> To: RTTY E-MAIL GROUP <[email protected]>
> Subject: [GreenKeys] TELETYPE paper
>
> OK - one last site! At $1.75/roll for Canary Yellow I just *HAD* to =
>let
> everyone know! They had 100 rolls - until I bought 2 cases...
>
> =
><http://www.sciplus.com/category.cfm?subsection=3D11&category=3D109>
>
> 73,
> W6ESE / ex-WA2EAA
>
> --=20
> Tony J. Podrasky Walkin' down this rocky road
> tony.podrasky Wonderin' where my life is leading.
> @ Rolling on, to the bitter end.
> hp.com -Bad Company
>
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> Message: 7
> From: "Tadashi Ishimori" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>,
> "RTTY E-MAIL GROUP" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] PAPER / TAPE - where to get
> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:18:56 +0900
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> You can find various paper rolls and tapes in 'Western Numerical =
>Control'.
> The WWW page is <http://www.westnc.com/paptape.html#tty>.
>
> 73's
> Taddy / JK1VXE
>
> > Hey Guys;
> >=20
> > Although I've been exposed to the WWW since its inception, I never =
>stop
> > being amazed - when I use a search engine, and enter something =
>"weird" -
> > and it comes up with sites:
> >=20
> > Hummmm - I need Teletype Paper. I wonder where I can get some... How
> > 'bout "Seach TELETYPE PAPER".
> >=20
> > BAM!
> >=20
> > Here's a site that carries paper/tape/ribbons.
> >=20
> > <http://www.westnc.com/paptape.html>
> >=20
> > 73,
> > W6ESE / ex-WA2EAA
> > --=20
> > Tony J. Podrasky "And the fox said to the little prince:' Men have
> > tony.podrasky forgotten this truth - but you must never forget =
>it:
> > @ You become responsible, forever, for what you have
> > hp.com tamed.'" -- Antoine De Saint-Exupery
> >=20
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> Message: 8
> From: "Tadashi Ishimori" <[email protected]>
> To: "Tadashi Ishimori" <[email protected]>,
> <[email protected]>,
> "RTTY E-MAIL GROUP" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] PAPER / TAPE - where to get
> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:34:00 +0900
>
> Tony,
>
> Very sorry but, you already found the WNC by youself.
> I bought some papers from them few times and was provided
> good service. The shipping cost to Japan is higher than the item
> cost. hi
>
> 737s
> Taddy / JK1VXE
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tadashi Ishimori" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>; "RTTY E-MAIL GROUP" =
><[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] PAPER / TAPE - where to get
>
>
> > Hi Tony,
> >
> > You can find various paper rolls and tapes in 'Western Numerical =
>Control'.
> > The WWW page is <http://www.westnc.com/paptape.html#tty>.
> >
> > 73's
> > Taddy / JK1VXE
> >
> > > Hey Guys;
> > >
> > > Although I've been exposed to the WWW since its inception, I never =
>stop
> > > being amazed - when I use a search engine, and enter something =
>"weird" -
> > > and it comes up with sites:
> > >
> > > Hummmm - I need Teletype Paper. I wonder where I can get some... =
>How
> > > 'bout "Seach TELETYPE PAPER".
> > >
> > > BAM!
> > >
> > > Here's a site that carries paper/tape/ribbons.
> > >
> > > <http://www.westnc.com/paptape.html>
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > W6ESE / ex-WA2EAA
> > > --
> > > Tony J. Podrasky "And the fox said to the little prince:' Men have
> > > tony.podrasky forgotten this truth - but you must never forget =
>it:
> > > @ You become responsible, forever, for what you =
>have
> > > hp.com tamed.'" -- Antoine De =
>Saint-Exupery
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