[GreenKeys] Saving paper tapes (was Auto-Pix)
Eugene Hertz
ehertz at tcaf.org
Mon Apr 24 18:36:01 EDT 2006
ok, rewinding makes sense. I actually have one buried somewhere, but does it mount somewhere on an 28 asr? I can see a rewinder being useful either for the TD or for the reperf. So where could one mount a rewinder that could be used for either?
Also, what about feeding the tape in? It would be great if one could load tape onto a spool kinda like 16mm film then feed it through the TD and into the rewinder. If anyone on the list has ever worked on editing 16mm film they have things called split reels. You can take off the top reel guard, leave the bottom. So the film goes into half a reel very easily, as easily as laying the roll of film on the table. Then you screw back in the top guard and voila!
Any such equivalent for tape? BTW: I actually have split reels, so I guess I could fashion something.. but what was the "official" way?
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Wayne Letourneau [mailto:letourneau at wiktel.com]
>Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 04:24 PM
>To: 'greenkeys'
>Subject: Fw: Re: [GreenKeys] Saving paper tapes (was Auto-Pix)
>
>
>Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Saving paper tapes (was Auto-Pix)
>
>What you need is a Teletype paper tape winder. I have two of them and they
>work just great for rewinding the tape as it comes out of the TD.
>There must be maney of thease around and are found on ebay once in a while.
>
>-------Original Message-------
>
>From: gil smith
>Date: 04/24/06 16:05:30
>To: Eugene Hertz
>Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Saving paper tapes (was Auto-Pix)
>
>Hi Eugene:
>
>That's a darned good question. I have always just let the tape spew on the
>floor (which I think is kinda cool), and then wound it back up. But I
>don't read tapes much.
>
>In a "production" situation, it gets messier, so I'll let the greenkeys
>folks comment on this.
>
>thanks,
>
>gil
>
>
>At 01:08 PM 4/24/2006, you wrote:
>
>>Gil, I might be willing. Although I have a question about tape
>>management. I just got my first 28 asr and hence my first machine that
>>handled tape. As I play around with it punching and reading tape it occurs
>>to me, tapes are hard to manage. What I mean is, is there some kind of
>>source spool /take up spool that can be arranged to avoid the giant pool
>>of tape sprawled all out on the floor? Is there a better way to manage
>>long tapes?
>>
>>Eugene
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: gil smith [mailto:gil at baudot.net]
>> >Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 02:59 PM
>> >To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
>> >Cc: 'John Foust', 'David Freeman'
>> >Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Saving paper tapes (was Auto-Pix)
>> >
>> >Hi folks:
>> >
>> >I have mentioned this before and had no takers. If someone wants to save
>> >tapes, I will ship you a loaner unit to make it easy (just ship it back
>> >when you are done). One catch: you must make the pic files public, by
>> >sending them to Bill Bytheway for inclusion in the pic library at
>> >rtty.com. Reasonable enough eh?
>> >
>> >I have a little 28-TD which I modified to plug directly into a 232
>> >port. You just plug it in to your pc, and then read tapes into a program
>> >like RTTYArt to save and name the file. I suppose Heavymetal would work
>as
>> >well. The TD is geared for 100-wpm, so the read will (reasonably)
>> >fast. You PC must have a serial port compatible with the above
>> >program(s). The TD does not take much desk space, and there are just
>power
>> >and 232 cables hanging out.
>> >
>> >If someone is willing to read a library of tapes (like the set from John
>> >Sheetz), send me your address, and I'll ship this guy off to you. Such a
>> deal.
>> >
>> >gil
>> >
>> >
>> >At 06:07 AM 4/24/2006, David Freeman wrote:
>> >>John,
>> >>
>> >>Can you send me Bob's contact info and I'll see if we can get going on
>> this.
>> >>It's pretty easy to set up your AFSK output from the TU into MMTTY and
>log
>> >>the data to your hard drive. An editor quickly cleans up any errors and
>> burn
>> >>it to a CD. It just takes hours and hours and hours of machine time. I
>> think
>> >>I can get four or five going at once.
>> >>
>> >>Cutting tapes is even easier, heck I've let my M14 run all night and
>found
>> >>everything still humming along the next morning.
>> >>
>> >>While storage/exchange on CD is certainly easier. The purist in me says
>> >>paper tape should be archived as well. Once this project is done, I'm a
>> little
>> >>saddend by the thought that 1,500 RTTY PIX will be so easily obtained.
>> Where
>> >>is the challenge in that. And once we all have a copy, there won't be
>much
>> >>reason to exchange them on the air. Of course we can create new PIX
>> >>but that is so damn easy now it's not funny. That era has ended....
>> >>
>> >>Dave, WW8S
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>On Sun 4/23/2006 6:02 PM, John Foust <jfoust at threedee.com> wrote :
>> >>
>> >> > At 09:12 AM 4/20/2006, David Freeman wrote:
>> >> > >I volunteered to receive/store/archive tapes, and even redistribute
>> >> them in exchange
>> >> > >for blank tape. The last large collection I know about was John
>Sheetz
>> >> estate's extensive collection. I think Bob Camp took possesion of it. I
>> >> don't know what's become of Bob
>> >> > >since he was once very active posting to several reflectors but now
>is
>> >> unheard from.
>> >> > >I'd still like to get a copy of the Sheetz collection since it was
>one
>> >> of the most complete and accurate assemblies of RTTY pix around.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ah, a volunteer. I sent a message to Bob Camp. He recently changed
>jobs
>> >> > and became very busy. He admirably rescued the Sheetz tapes, but now
>> >> > he's willing to hand off the archiving to someone else.
>> >> >
>> >> > Duping paper tapes? Because I'm more computer-oriented than
>> ham-oriented,
>> >> > I regard the more important task as converting the old tapes to
>> >> > computer-readable data files so they can be archived, cloned and
>> shared.
>> >> >
>> >> > As I understand it, we're talking about fourteen cubic feet of tapes.
>> >> >
>> >> > - John
>> >> >
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