[GreenKeys] further sugggestions.

[Don Robert House]

Thanks Harvey,
Great ideas.  The problem is that we have to keep the movie studio  
happy with our solution.  This is at least something else can be  
worked out.

Warren,
Please read this over.  I know you are disabled, but perhaps someone  
else could help.  I hope to be out there in Spring or Summer.
Don


On 16 Mar 2006, at 10:36 AM, KC0NNC at aol.com wrote:

I suggest you consider a used tractor trailer with wheels on it.

i have several storage containers in use, and have found that the  
"Box" style
trailer on one or two rear axles works the best (I own a box car

I have been able to procure these items for about 1000.00 each.  With
reasonable tires, and no defects.

The preferred one is a refrigerator trailer, as it is insulated.  You  
always
park these items with the nose gear set higher than the rear.  Any  
water then
follows the tilt "outside" and keeps the interior dry.  The floors  
are always
aluminum serrated and have drainage channels running the length of  
the unit.

Always place all stored equipment on old salvage pallets (free for the
taking) leaving a path up the middle as an isle.

always cover the individual items with 55 gal plastic trash can  
liners, or
cheap plastic sheeting, (the really best stuff you get at lumber  
yards, as the
tarps they place around plywood lasts forever and they throw it away)

The Refrigerator Box Trailers may or may not come with the diesel driven
refrigerator package.  If so, run it once a month for several hours  
and it will
drop the interior humidity to zero in an hour or so.

These refrigerator units are particularly cheap, as they have no salvage
value, the imbedded insulation is too expensive in labor to clean off  
the walls
before salvage.  Same way for railroad box cars.

The nice thing about the "over the highway" trailers is that you can  
have
them moved any time without a crane or specialized carrier.

I recently purchased an over the road "tractor" to pull mine around when
needed.  I paid $500 for the 1977 GMC 9500 tractor, with a genuine  
"Detroit
Diesel" engine.  This is about what they are worth for salvage, and  
this one runs
quite well.

Why so cheap... the DOT does not want professional haulers using "old"
equipment on the interstate.  In Colorado, these older tractors fall  
into Farm and
Ranch usage, and they are well received.

My Ranch insurance for this tractor runs $37 annually, and the plates  
are $80
annually.  No CDL is required for farm equipment, as long as you do not
exceed operations over 200 miles from the ranch.

Any property over two acres, that produces "farm product" including  
horse and
cow shit is considered a farm operation.

But even if you had to hire a professional to move the item, when  
necessary,
you are not talking over $200.

The one railroad Box car I have, I paid $100 for and $1000 to move  
it.  The
stationary ocean transit containers I own have costed between $1000  
and $4000
each depending on size, and I must have a specialized carrier handle  
them, or I
have to use my own 50 ton crane to do it.  the gent that complained  
about
them sweating and rusting was correct, they do that very well, unless  
you leave
the doors cracked.  always set any item you use for storage on 12  
inch square
wood blocks, otherwise the bottom rotts out.  Always use taller  
blocks on the
"front end " away from the doors for drainage.  Whether you place a  
roof above
it, is up to your comfort...  I have never seen it get over 180  
degrees inside
in the direct summer sun.  It helps to paint them white.

I have also purchased and placed into storage service some 20,000 gallon
steel fuel tanks, 10 'diameter, and 20 or 40 foot long. but you have  
to install a
flat floor [as it is a bitch trying to walk down a curved floor) and I
generally bury them for year round comfort, and have to make them a  
"walk out" item.


Take my advise, ask around for the place in town that handles old box
trailers an axles and wheels.  You will be ahead, and when you are  
done with the item
for storage, you can resell it to someone else like me for storage use.

Harv

Harvey E. Smith
2020 Baculite Mesa Road
Pueblo, CO., 81001-2456
fka WA0BBG
nka KC0NNC

73's

RYRY/ZZZZ
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