[GreenKeys] model 28 paper winder...another question

Tue Aug 16 01:23:52 EDT 2011

Andy,

I will change a mainshaft or repair wiring but really hate it when a  
function clutch takes out the tines in the stunt box.
The average stunt box was not too bad, but many had lots of special  
functions, both electrical and mechanical.
The base of the machine has a metal pocket where the AWD and Stunt box  
chart belongs.
If the chart was missing it took a very long time to reverse engineer  
the proper coding of the function bars.
One of my longest outages was rewiring a 28 ASR 83B3 after someone put  
a big fuse in and burned up the custom Belden cable.
Another was trying to readjust a reperforator after an operator  
dropped a paper clip into the poor thing. Finally gave up and replaced  
the whole unit.

Ahh memories.

Don

On 15 Aug 2011, at 11:47 PM, zeke440 . wrote:

At the risk of being a "Dear Customer" (Ha Ha Don)
All Military Fan fold Mod 28 machines I worked on had sprocket feed  
mechanisms
that replaced the friction feed platen and the friction feed pinch  
rollers... so the fan feed was to be pulled through
the print area... over a paper tray... (and you can not use the tray  
with a friction feed pinch roller in place)
I cant speak for a 15 or 19... I was taught how to repair only  
friction feed models and never saw one
that I wanted to work on after I left School...

as for the mess in seperating 3 ply??  I think I see your point...

TTY/RTTY is a hobby for me today... as all on this list...  there are  
a lot of things I would do today
to keep my machine running... seperating 3 ply paper is a small "mess"  
compaired to stripping out a main shaft
and hopeing I can find clutch shoes, a function bar stripper link or a  
3rd bit cam follower to rebuild a selector mechanism.

Andy

> From: WA5CAB at cs.com
> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 00:19:10 -0400
> To: greenkeys at qth.net
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] model 28 paper winder...another question
>
> My point was that as you pull the outer layer of paper off of a roll  
> of
> multi-ply, the rest of it has to go somewhere. It definitely will  
> not stay on
> the original roll. The first carbon (unless it is NCR) has to go  
> somewhere.
> Either you roll it up or you can't recover the second layer of  
> paper. You
> can't recover the second layer of paper if you don't deal with (wind  
> up)
> the first layer of carbon. Etc.
>
> Fanfold paper doesn't sit in a paper tray. At least not in wire  
> service
> driven machines. It sits in the box it comes in, on the floor under  
> the
> M15RO. I never saw or heard of a paper tray on a Teletype machine.  
> Dot-matrix
> tractor feed printers, yes. Teletype no.
>
> In a message dated 08/15/2011 22:53:09 PM Central Daylight Time,
> asekely at hotmail.com writes:
>> LOL yes it would be a mess for 3 ply if you wanted to save the carbon
>> paper... personally the carbon would be history... but at the speed  
>> a winder
>> works... a little imagination and work space...
>>
>> there would be two piles of paper (3 ply) that could become "new  
>> rolls"
>>
>> depends on how much you want to spend... for paper that is becoming
>> "unobanium"
>>
>>
>>
>> Fan fold on the other hand... someone the other day wanted an idea  
>> about
>> how to roll it... waLa...
>>
>> If you dont have a paper tray on your 28,35,whatever... rolling up  
>> fan
>> fold isnt that bad an idea
>>
>> to keep it from getting oily as it sags down and gets pulled over the
>> function box.
>>
>> of course there could be a personal mod to the back of the printer  
>> other
>> than a paper tray that would work.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: WA5CAB at cs.com
>> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:38:29 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] model 28 paper winder...another question
>> To: asekely at hotmail.com; zarco at sonic.net; greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
>>
>> I don't know why anyone would want to rewind fanfold. Just set the  
>> box on
>> the floor like every radio station I ever worked in did. A case of
>> fanfold is worth about three cases of roll paper. I would predict  
>> that if you
>> hook it up, you will never use all of it.
>>
>> You could use the winder to separate out multi-layer material but you
>> would have to have a winder for each layer unless you just dump all  
>> of the
>> carbon layers and the second and subsequent layers of paper into  
>> the trash.
>> Three ply paper will take five winders to successfully recover all  
>> of the
>> paper.
>>
>> In a message dated 08/15/2011 21:16:19 PM Central Daylight Time,
>> asekely at hotmail.com writes:
>>>> Steve,
>>> Its a "printed material" winder. ...yes when mounted correctly the  
>>> bar
>>> detects slack in the print copy
>>> and starts the motor to wind till the bar is lifted and the limit  
>>> switch
>>> opens to stop the motor.
>>>
>>> with a little work it could be used to "re-wind" paper from a  
>>> fanfold
>>> supply or "Seperate a multiple copy roll of TTY paper
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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