[GreenKeys] the rareness of the KSR 35 vd ASR 35

[Pete Lancashire]

The class was not for me :-). It was the early 70's. The school was part of
the local college (now university). West Chester State. The school was part
of the colleges teaching research, called the DEM or Demonstration School.

The new DEM building was also the computer science center. I got access when
I was 15. In those days all you needed was to know someone and not be a jerk.
The only door I remember being locked was the room with the HP and the 360.
The code to open the lock was 123.

The grade school kids who got to go where picked from the local area, the names
were put in a pool, and picked at random.

Being such a project, the school and the comp sci department had a lot of toys
a college would not normally afford, along with the HP the IBM 360 was a /45
quite the machine for a small school.

Back to the HP, not sure what it started out as, but I remember in the
later 70's
it was a 2116 with at least one disk, not sure if the O/S was on a
Head-per-track
or not. The modems to the outside were WE's. The library had a 35. In one of
the dorms was a 33 can't remember if it was a KSR or ASR. Never saw the others.






On 12/11/13, COURYHOUSE at aol.com <COURYHOUSE at aol.com> wrote:
> YES!  Pete  HP 2000  timeshare  system!    it  probably had the  single
> processor  16 pots and drum   memory!?
>
> You were going  first  class using  35 KSR's! Our   schools here in  AZ
> all had  33's
>
> If  so that  would be   a 2000A   timeshare  system.  as  you upgrade  many
>
>  people kept  the  2116  as an I/O processor  up to a HP 2000F timeshare
> system.
>
>  HP's  final offering in the  2000 timeshare line was  called  "2000
> ACCESS"  and was far  and above of earlier  iterations of  the   systems in
> file
> handling  and system  capabilities  even  did RJE and HASP!  The  2116
> would
>  no  longer  wok as the I/O process with the access upgrade  due  to
> increased  memory needs  32K words vs  16 K words max on  the  2116.... and
>
> there was  some new  microcode that  was necessary  for the  running of the
>
> 2000  Access  system  I/O processor.  the  replacement  was a HP-2100  with
>
> 32K words  or a HP-21 MX  with 32 k-words
>
> we ended up  with the   2000fF systems  from   MCCCD and Phx union both  we
>
> still have the  2116   from  Phx  Union  and we  have the compete system
> from MCCCD you  see in  the young Ed  Photo below..
>
> The MCCCD 2000F  we upgraded to an access system.
>
>
>
>
> Ed Sharpe CEO of Computer Exchange Inc.
> (The  computer was younger and so was Ed!)
>
>  (http://www.smecc.org/hp2000_2.jpg)
>
> a  cabinet label from  one of the First HP timeshare  systems...
> ( I actually have a few extras of these as one  timeshare  co we  bought
> the old cabinets  from had a number of the   branded   plexi-front  racks)
>
> Ed Sharpe KF7RWW  Archivist for SMECC ( where HP-2000 is !) and  retired
> CEO  Computer Exchange n.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/11/2013 10:29:15 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
> pete at petelancashire.com writes:
>
> One  place I saw a lot of KSRs was at a school. They had one ASR (maybe 2)
>
> and
> from very foggy memory 5 or 6 KSRs in the main lab along with two 029s  and
>
> a
> 129. Who on the list knows what they are :-) The grade school lab  had
> 3 or 4 KSRs
> They TTYs were all hooked up to a HP 2116 running HP  2000 Time Share
> Basic.
>
> At Burroughs consoles were KSRs or where we  didn't need a hard copy
> CRTs. Most input was 80 col cards. There were ASRs  in the classified
> areas where they designed interfaces to communication  systems. Oh .. and
> of course the TWX room had two  ASRs
>
> -pete
>
>
>
>
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> On 12/10/13, COURYHOUSE at aol.com  <COURYHOUSE at aol.com> wrote:
>> many many many  ASR's   used as consoles on timeshare systems and  it was
>> the standard in  the process control environment  as even in  a  foul
> oily
>>
>> environment   they   ran and   ran
>>
>> Back when I have the computer business in the early 80s' n  the  only
>> KSR
>> 35s I seem to remember  came   from  that one  hospital  in calif and
>> they
>> were  desktops!  ( some ROs   also...
>>
>> we had scads  of  33s   and many  ASR   35s
>>
>>  of  course ... I imagine  commonality and rarity  would  also  change
> with
>> geographical  area  perhaps   but that was my  take pone it here
>>
>> Ed  Sharpe  Archivist  for SMECC  _www.smecc.org_  (http://www.smecc.org)
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