[GreenKeys] Stevens-Arnold Polar Relay
Don Sentz via GreenKeys
greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Sun Aug 2 20:40:35 EDT 2015
Hi Jim,
Wow this is a great story- thanks!
Yes I realized that the winding resistance seemed a lot higher than what I had seen in my books for other polar relays. I am pasting below an excerpt from my present design documentation for my version of the W2PAT TU described in the 1963 ARRL handbook. The work is on-going at this time.
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I think I am ready to prototype this circuit, and test it. The changes relative to the W2PAT design are as follows;
• Change the keyer cathode resistor
o from 1000 ohms 1 watt to 1700 ohms ½ watt
• Change the two keyer plate circuit resistors
o from 270 ohms ½ watt to 600 ohms ½ watt
• Add 4240 ohms, 1 watt in B+ line after the 2nd power supply filter cap (3Kohm + 1.2Kohm standard values)
• Use my Stevens-Arnold 1400-ohm relay, instead of whatever 400-ish ohm relay the W2PAT design used
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Thanks again for the great story- it is amazing to so quickly meet someone who knew Mr. Stevens and Mr. Arnold
-73
Don
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On Sun, 8/2/15, Jim Haynes <jhhaynes at earthlink.net> wrote:
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Stevens-Arnold Polar Relay
To: "Don Sentz" <dr.sentz at yahoo.com>
Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Date: Sunday, August 2, 2015, 4:14 PM
I remember the name
"Millisec" associated with Sigma relays at one
time.
Those winding
resistances are awfully high for use in ordinary TTY
circuits.
At
one time - mid 1960s - Stevens-Arnold was making packaged
tuning fork
oscillators. I was working for
Teletype, where we were using unijunction
transistors as bit-rate timers. They had to
be adjusted. It seemed to
me that a tuning
fork oscillator might be a lot nicer - just plug in one
with the frequency needed. That's fine
for transmitting, where the bit
timer just
runs all the time; but for receiving we need one that
stops
between characters and produces the
first pulse a half period after being
told
to start. I asked Stevens-Arnold if it would be possible
to make
a tuning fork oscillator with a
hold-off of some sort so the oscillator
could start and stop. Next thing I knew was
that Mr. Stevens or maybe
it was Mr. Arnold
told us he was coming to visit with a sample. Must
have thought we were thinking of something that
every Teletype machine
would use, not just
the small quantity we would use for the high-speed
tape product line.
So we put it on the bench and he showed us that
it could indeed be
started and stopped and
give us the first output pulse about half a
period after being started. And the asking
price seemed quite
reasonable. But there
just wasn't any enthusiasm in the company
for changing the design to make use of it.
Perhaps because the cost
of adjusting the
existing bit timers fell mainly on the telephone
companies that used the product, rather than on
the factory. Or maybe
they were so stable
that they almost never needed adjustment.
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