As they say, "Time to fish or cut bait." As nice as they telco -051 plugs are, they are the wrong thing to use in this (headphone) application. I'll switch back to the standard 1/4" plugs and jacks. And it was SO much fun to play with that special spring loaded screw driver with those hollow screws. ;-) -- Jeff-1.0 wa6fwi http://www.foxsmercantile.com