[GreenKeys] Who's still looking at getting John Nagle's USB<->CL Board made ?

Mon Mar 5 15:44:29 EST 2018

Hi

Has anybody looked to see *if* there are through hole equivalent parts for all of the
things on the board? In a lot of cases these days, through hole no longer is an option.
The manufacturer only makes the part in SMT (or worse SMT BGA). 

Bob

> On Mar 5, 2018, at 3:00 PM, Pete Lancashire <pete at petelancashire.com> wrote:
> 
> Totally understand we all have skills someone else doesn't, makes lists like this one the best.
> 
> If my heath was better, I would consider doing it just as a project. But I'm getting close to the
> exit ramp and only want the boards to help with giving the machines away like the weather
> guy.
> 
> -pete
> 
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 11:56 AM, drlegendre . <drlegendre at gmail.com <mailto:drlegendre at gmail.com>> wrote:
> "Nothing to taking his CAD, changing the parts to thru hole and laying out a new board."
> 
> May be a nothing for yourself, but it's beyond my current skillset. 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Pete Lancashire <pete at petelancashire.com <mailto:pete at petelancashire.com>> wrote:
> > Can you work with SMD parts? 
> 
> If I had done it, I would have used SMD. I've done something iike 30 to 40 designs for customers, I do the prototypes then my runs have been from 20 to 200ish. I contract that outl
> 
> My last little board I had the house do the resistors and caps, but you had to use there list of about 200-300 parts. You need a 500 ohm resistor that's 2 x 1K.
> 
> Nothing wrong with the perf board, you can get some very nice FR4 boards for less than a $1 each.
> 
> I guess the deal is John built the board for himself but made the design open.
> 
> Nothing to taking his CAD, changing the parts to thru hole and laying out a new board.
> 
> -pete
> 
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 10:06 AM, drlegendre . <drlegendre at gmail.com <mailto:drlegendre at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Now beggars can't be choosers and all that, but I don't get why John elects to design these circuits with SMD parts, knowing that the primary user base will be a group of DIYer's.
> 
> Can you work with SMD parts? I can't. I mean to say, I might be capable to some degree, but sheesh - why?! Are the required parts simply not available in legacy form-factors or something?
> 
> Normally I'd be all over this, but the SMD requirement just takes all the wind from my sails. So what's the deal? For the record, I built one of his earlier designs (RS-232 -to- 120V / 60mA) on perfboard with some parts chassis mounted, and that all went just fine. 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Pete Lancashire <pete at petelancashire.com <mailto:pete at petelancashire.com>> wrote:
> I have not heard a est number
> 
> I can envision
> 
> - Raw board + digikey/mouser/etc list
> 
> - Raw board + parts or + list
> 
> - Board with SMT Parts + list of non SMT parts
> 
> - Fully assembled board
> 
> -pete
> 
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 5:15 AM, Steve Garrison <steve.n4tty at gmail.com <mailto:steve.n4tty at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Is everyone aware of the cost involved for these in finished form?
> 
> Steve G./N4TTY
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> 
> On Mar 4, 2018, at 8:41 PM, Bruce Phillips <bruce at ecsindustries.com <mailto:bruce at ecsindustries.com>> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> HI All,
>> 
>> As I said last week....I am in the process of having 30 PCB's made, and assembling them as required.......I have not provided any updates, as there is nothing to update yet.....until I get the boards there is very little I can do!!
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Bruce Phillips
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/03/2018 9:59 AM, Pete Lancashire wrote:
>>> The reason I ask is I'm up to 3 maybe even 5.
>>> 
>>> As far as SMT i really suggest having someone like SEEED do the PCB and the SMT parts.
>>> 
>>> -pete
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 1:23 PM, Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org <mailto:dave at horsfall.org>> wrote:
>>> I'm still interested, depending on the price (and shipping to VK).  I'm on a limited income, and also can't do SMD...
>>> 
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