From shumaker at att.net  Sat Oct  1 00:39:56 2022
From: shumaker at att.net (Steven Shumaker)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2022 21:39:56 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Teletype auction in Bluffton
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Listing doesn't indicate they will ship.? Mostly out of curiosity (I'm 
NOT in a position to go for it) I sent the auctioneer an inquiry.? If? I 
get an answer, I'll post here.

Steve

On 9/30/2022 8:29 PM, Joe Duszy?ski wrote:
> Shipping would not be cheap even a short distance.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 6:35 PM Steven Shumaker <shumaker at att.net> wrote:
>> up for auction in Bluffton IN.  Is it a 28KSR?   (I'm a 33 guy so that's
>> a guess)   It's in pristine condition - looks like it's sitting in
>> someone's living room.
>>
>> https://hibid.com/lot/133870106/teletype-electromechanical-teleprinter?ref=lot-list
>>
>> I've inquired with the auctioneer about shipping.
>>
>> Steve
>>
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From joeduszynski1 at gmail.com  Sat Oct  1 02:54:17 2022
From: joeduszynski1 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Joe_Duszy=C5=84ski?=)
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 02:54:17 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Teletype auction in Bluffton
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It indicates in the overall auction terms that they will ship $30
MINIMUM (Packing fee) and then there is
Materials, packing, shipping cost ect...

It also states item may require a 3rd party shipper (bla bla bla) for
guns, cars, ect ect bla bla bla.
Figure this one is 130 pounds + (because they will package the $%^# out of it.
Even on a short haul it would be a buck or two a pound.

Here is the link for the terms of that auction.
https://hibid.com/auction/401088/riverview-dr--bluffton---pickup-noon-4-p-m--oct--7

I like fine print... LOL... But I use the largest font in the typebox LOL!

On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 12:40 AM Steven Shumaker <shumaker at att.net> wrote:
>
> Listing doesn't indicate they will ship.  Mostly out of curiosity (I'm
> NOT in a position to go for it) I sent the auctioneer an inquiry.  If  I
> get an answer, I'll post here.
>
> Steve
>
> On 9/30/2022 8:29 PM, Joe Duszy?ski wrote:
> > Shipping would not be cheap even a short distance.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 6:35 PM Steven Shumaker <shumaker at att.net> wrote:
> >> up for auction in Bluffton IN.  Is it a 28KSR?   (I'm a 33 guy so that's
> >> a guess)   It's in pristine condition - looks like it's sitting in
> >> someone's living room.
> >>
> >> https://hibid.com/lot/133870106/teletype-electromechanical-teleprinter?ref=lot-list
> >>
> >> I've inquired with the auctioneer about shipping.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
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From n9vmo at comcast.net  Sat Oct  1 16:59:30 2022
From: n9vmo at comcast.net (Joe Montano)
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 16:59:30 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Teletype auction in Bluffton
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Well I did have an idea that I might bid on this seeing that it is only an hour away from me and the last time I looked the bid was something ridiculously low but...

The current bid is now over $200 which is way more than I am willing to spend.  On top of the fact that I already have a Model 19, a 28 ASR and a UGC-129 I don't really have the room for another machine right now.

Joe
N9VMO

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From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Steven Shumaker
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 18:34
To: GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [GreenKeys] Teletype auction in Bluffton

up for auction in Bluffton IN.  Is it a 28KSR?   (I'm a 33 guy so that's a guess)   It's in pristine condition - looks like it's sitting in someone's living room.

https://hibid.com/lot/133870106/teletype-electromechanical-teleprinter?ref=lot-list

I've inquired with the auctioneer about shipping.

Steve



From gblock at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct  1 18:28:02 2022
From: gblock at sbcglobal.net (Gerry Block)
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 22:28:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [GreenKeys] Baggie
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I found in my drawer a small (used) teletype cloth parts bag which has 3 wood screws in it - I think it came from a model 19 kit with the wooden table.? It has the Teletype Banner logo and a "1460 Wrightwood Avenue" address - never heard of that one...

Before I dispose of it, does anyone want it?
GerryAD6MC


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From joeduszynski1 at gmail.com  Sat Oct  1 19:37:46 2022
From: joeduszynski1 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Joe_Duszy=C5=84ski?=)
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 19:37:46 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Baggie
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Teletype was at the Corner of Wrightwood and Southport in Chicago
The baggies are great to put gears in.

On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 6:28 PM Gerry Block <gblock at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> I found in my drawer a small (used) teletype cloth parts bag which has 3 wood screws in it - I think it came from a model 19 kit with the wooden table.  It has the Teletype Banner logo and a "1460 Wrightwood Avenue" address - never heard of that one...
>
> Before I dispose of it, does anyone want it?
>
> Gerry
> AD6MC
>
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From joeduszynski1 at gmail.com  Sat Oct  1 19:45:48 2022
From: joeduszynski1 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Joe_Duszy=C5=84ski?=)
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 19:45:48 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Teletype auction in Bluffton
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Room for machines.... Thats what pole barns are for!! LOL!
;-)

JD

On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 5:03 PM Joe Montano <n9vmo at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Well I did have an idea that I might bid on this seeing that it is only an hour away from me and the last time I looked the bid was something ridiculously low but...
>
> The current bid is now over $200 which is way more than I am willing to spend.  On top of the fact that I already have a Model 19, a 28 ASR and a UGC-129 I don't really have the room for another machine right now.
>
> Joe
> N9VMO
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Steven Shumaker
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 18:34
> To: GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [GreenKeys] Teletype auction in Bluffton
>
> up for auction in Bluffton IN.  Is it a 28KSR?   (I'm a 33 guy so that's a guess)   It's in pristine condition - looks like it's sitting in someone's living room.
>
> https://hibid.com/lot/133870106/teletype-electromechanical-teleprinter?ref=lot-list
>
> I've inquired with the auctioneer about shipping.
>
> Steve
>
>
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From jhhaynes at earthlink.net  Sat Oct  1 23:05:17 2022
From: jhhaynes at earthlink.net (Jim Haynes)
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 22:05:17 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [GreenKeys] Baggie
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On Sat, 1 Oct 2022, Joe Duszy?ski wrote:

> Teletype was at the Corner of Wrightwood and Southport in Chicago
> The baggies are great to put gears in.
>
The official address was 1400 Wrightwood, but the plant extended for a
whole block along Wrightwood.

From joeduszynski1 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  2 00:30:53 2022
From: joeduszynski1 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Joe_Duszy=C5=84ski?=)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 00:30:53 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Baggie
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There is an entrance on Southport to the same building.
That address is 2600 Southport.
When your building is so big it had multiple addresses on two
different streets LOL!


On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 11:05 PM Jim Haynes <jhhaynes at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 1 Oct 2022, Joe Duszy?ski wrote:
>
> > Teletype was at the Corner of Wrightwood and Southport in Chicago
> > The baggies are great to put gears in.
> >
> The official address was 1400 Wrightwood, but the plant extended for a
> whole block along Wrightwood.

From gblock at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct  2 01:40:20 2022
From: gblock at sbcglobal.net (Gerry Block)
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 22:40:20 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Baggie
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Roger.  

I am going to say this bag dates from 1930?s but not really sure.  I don?t know what the finish used on the screws but they look like they were made yesterday. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2022, at 9:37 PM, Joe Duszy?ski <joeduszynski1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?There is an entrance on Southport to the same building.
> That address is 2600 Southport.
> When your building is so big it had multiple addresses on two
> different streets LOL!
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 11:05 PM Jim Haynes <jhhaynes at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sat, 1 Oct 2022, Joe Duszy?ski wrote:
>>> 
>>> Teletype was at the Corner of Wrightwood and Southport in Chicago
>>> The baggies are great to put gears in.
>>> 
>> The official address was 1400 Wrightwood, but the plant extended for a
>> whole block along Wrightwood.


From kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org  Sun Oct  2 21:05:21 2022
From: kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org (Kevin H. Phillips)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 20:05:21 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printing
Message-ID: <911a2282-36c2-eba1-aa18-096b903edeee@9-5usa.org>

I think I've exhausted my limited thoughts on this so I'll refer this to 
anyone who really knows what they are doing.


I've been trying to get a TT-4C/TG running.? I had it typing pretty well 
until I adjusted the motor speed and now I can't get it to replicate how 
it was typing.? (I know:? if it ain't broke, don't fix it.)? I have a 
tuning fork and adjusted the motor according to manual instructions and 
it is running pretty steady. It had been running a little fast when the 
machine was printing. I can't get it to print ITTY.? It won't even print 
garbage.? The magnets lock up when the loop is energized.? I tried 
adjusting the range and armature settings according to the manual but 
that hasn't helped. ? It will type a few characters correctly and then 
type garbage.? I've been trying to type RY's with one hand while 
adjusting the Range setting with the other.? Not very easy. ? I am 
suspecting something needs to be adjusted with the armature because 
sometimes it will completely stop typing, won't do CR/LF, etc.? If I 
turn off the power and the loop it will still remain in a "locked" state 
until I manually push down on the armature.? It was very dry when I 
first got it and I've been lubing it profusely.


Thanks in advance for any help.


73

Kevin

W5TTY


From w9ddd at tapr.org  Sun Oct  2 22:30:57 2022
From: w9ddd at tapr.org (John, W9DDD)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 21:30:57 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printing
In-Reply-To: <911a2282-36c2-eba1-aa18-096b903edeee@9-5usa.org>
References: <911a2282-36c2-eba1-aa18-096b903edeee@9-5usa.org>
Message-ID: <3241b67a-76ab-a4c3-7a4d-ee5d56aa8146@tapr.org>

Haven't seen a Keinschmidt since 1966, but I'll make some guesses anyway.

Comments below

---
----
You said "tomorrow" yesterday.

The above comments or recommendations are SWAG. Use at your own risk.
John, W9DDD

On 10/2/2022 8:05 PM, Kevin H. Phillips wrote:
> I think I've exhausted my limited thoughts on this so I'll refer this 
> to anyone who really knows what they are doing.
>
>
> I've been trying to get a TT-4C/TG running.? I had it typing pretty 
> well until I adjusted the motor speed and now I can't get it to 
> replicate how it was typing.

> (I know:? if it ain't broke, don't fix it.) 
Don't you hate it when you remember that too late?

> I have a tuning fork and adjusted the motor according to manual 
> instructions and it is running pretty steady. It had been running a 
> little fast when the machine was printing.

Wouldn't think a "little" adjustment in speed would have a dramatic effect.

> I can't get it to print ITTY.? It won't even print garbage.? The 
> magnets lock up when the loop is energized.? I tried adjusting the 
> range and armature settings according to the manual but that hasn't 
> helped. ? It will type a few characters correctly and then type 
> garbage.? I've been trying to type RY's with one hand while adjusting 
> the Range setting with the other.? Not very easy. 
Not having a continuous source or RY is tough.

> I am suspecting something needs to be adjusted with the armature 
> because sometimes it will completely stop typing, won't do CR/LF, 
> etc.? If I turn off the power and the loop it will still remain in a 
> "locked" state until I manually push down on the armature.? It was 
> very dry when I first got it and I've been lubing it profusely.
>
I suspect some of that lube has worked it's way into the selector 
magnet.? Take a strip of bond paper (why bond?), insert between armature 
and pole piece.? Hold armature toward pole piece and slowly pull the 
paper back out.? It there's oil there you should see it on the paper.? 
Repeat if necessary to get dry results.

>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
>
> 73
>
> Kevin
>
> W5TTY
>
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From kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org  Mon Oct  3 05:37:41 2022
From: kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org (Kevin H. Phillips)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 04:37:41 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printing
In-Reply-To: <3241b67a-76ab-a4c3-7a4d-ee5d56aa8146@tapr.org>
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	<3241b67a-76ab-a4c3-7a4d-ee5d56aa8146@tapr.org>
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On 10/2/2022 9:30 PM, John, W9DDD wrote:
> I suspect some of that lube has worked it's way into the selector 
> magnet. Take a strip of bond paper (why bond?),
Because it has a slightly rough surface (?)
> insert between armature and pole piece.? Hold armature toward pole 
> piece and slowly pull the paper back out.? It there's oil there you 
> should see it on the paper.? Repeat if necessary to get dry results.


That seems like a pretty good guess and easy enough for me to try.


73


Kevin



From steve.n4tty at gmail.com  Mon Oct  3 06:01:59 2022
From: steve.n4tty at gmail.com (Steve Garrison)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 06:01:59 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printing
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Kevin,

Have you tried adjusting the motor back to the "little fast" speed when it was printing?  If it was printing fairly well at that speed was it while trying to copy off of itty?  Local typing with motor at wrong speed might work fine, but copying itty would be a different.  And the "magnets lock up when the loop is energized" doesn't seem logical with just a change in motor speed.

If you are receiving itty and the motor is off, do the magnets actuate?  In other words respond to the incoming signal and make a sort of chattering sound?

Do you know if the magnet assembly has been removed from the machine at any time?  If so, there are adjustments to get them aligned properly when putting them back on.  You might want to check those adjustments.  I have seen where the magnets "lock up" if those adjusts were not right, but that should be true regardless of motor speed. 

Just shooting in the dark here trying to understand exactly what is happening.

Steve G./N4TTY

-----Original Message-----
From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net <greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Kevin H. Phillips
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 09:05 PM
To: Greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printing

I think I've exhausted my limited thoughts on this so I'll refer this to anyone who really knows what they are doing.


I've been trying to get a TT-4C/TG running.  I had it typing pretty well 
until I adjusted the motor speed and now I can't get it to replicate how 
it was typing.  (I know:  if it ain't broke, don't fix it.)  I have a 
tuning fork and adjusted the motor according to manual instructions and 
it is running pretty steady. It had been running a little fast when the 
machine was printing. I can't get it to print ITTY.  It won't even print 
garbage.  The magnets lock up when the loop is energized.  I tried 
adjusting the range and armature settings according to the manual but 
that hasn't helped.   It will type a few characters correctly and then 
type garbage.  I've been trying to type RY's with one hand while 
adjusting the Range setting with the other.  Not very easy.   I am 
suspecting something needs to be adjusted with the armature because 
sometimes it will completely stop typing, won't do CR/LF, etc.  If I 
turn off the power and the loop it will still remain in a "locked" state 
until I manually push down on the armature.  It was very dry when I 
first got it and I've been lubing it profusely.


Thanks in advance for any help.


73

Kevin

W5TTY

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From steve.n4tty at gmail.com  Mon Oct  3 06:08:41 2022
From: steve.n4tty at gmail.com (Steve Garrison)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 06:08:41 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printing
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I am assuming it is a tuning fork for a Kleinschmidt.  If it was one for a Teletype Corp machine it would not work very well.  I'm afraid I don't remember the freq of the tuning fork for a Kleinschmidt., but I have one or more around here somewhere, but I'd have to dig to find them.  Maybe better minds might remember.

Steve G./N4TTY

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 09:05 PM
To: Greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printing

I think I've exhausted my limited thoughts on this so I'll refer this to anyone who really knows what they are doing.


I've been trying to get a TT-4C/TG running.  I had it typing pretty well 
until I adjusted the motor speed and now I can't get it to replicate how 
it was typing.  (I know:  if it ain't broke, don't fix it.)  I have a 
tuning fork and adjusted the motor according to manual instructions and 
it is running pretty steady. It had been running a little fast when the 
machine was printing. I can't get it to print ITTY.  It won't even print 
garbage.  The magnets lock up when the loop is energized.  I tried 
adjusting the range and armature settings according to the manual but 
that hasn't helped.   It will type a few characters correctly and then 
type garbage.  I've been trying to type RY's with one hand while 
adjusting the Range setting with the other.  Not very easy.   I am 
suspecting something needs to be adjusted with the armature because 
sometimes it will completely stop typing, won't do CR/LF, etc.  If I 
turn off the power and the loop it will still remain in a "locked" state 
until I manually push down on the armature.  It was very dry when I 
first got it and I've been lubing it profusely.


Thanks in advance for any help.


73

Kevin

W5TTY

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From Duncanancy at earthlink.net  Mon Oct  3 08:23:53 2022
From: Duncanancy at earthlink.net (Duncanancy)
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2022 08:23:53 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printing
In-Reply-To: <151301d8d710$1db63a80$5922af80$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.500.1664799856.3596.greenkeys@mailman.qth.net>

KLI running fork is 180 vps.Motor speed is not too crucial and would not make it stop printing.Selector magnet area is quite sensitive.? Don't worry about Range control initially, just leave it at about 60.Oil or gunk on the selector magnet pole pieces most likely problem, but with loop off, check that armature operates properly.You should be able to turn motor by hand while manually moving armature and get it to print (type arm may not come up all the way)Good luckDuncanK2OEQ?Sent from my Kleinschmidt TT-4/TG, the US Army's first portable digital communications device, 1950-1980
-------- Original message --------From: Steve Garrison <steve.n4tty at gmail.com> Date: 10/3/22  06:09  (GMT-05:00) To: "'Kevin H. Phillips'" <kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org>, 'Greenkeys' <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printing I am assuming it is a tuning fork for a Kleinschmidt.? If it was one for a Teletype Corp machine it would not work very well.? I'm afraid I don't remember the freq of the tuning fork for a Kleinschmidt., but I have one or more around here somewhere, but I'd have to dig to find them.? Maybe better minds might remember.Steve G./N4TTY-----Original Message-----From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net <greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Kevin H. PhillipsSent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 09:05 PMTo: Greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printingI think I've exhausted my limited thoughts on this so I'll refer this to anyone who really knows what they are doing.I've been trying to get a TT-4C/TG running.? I had it typing pretty well until I adjusted the motor speed and now I can't get it to replicate how it was typing.? (I know:? if it ain't broke, don't fix it.)? I have a tuning fork and adjusted the motor according to manual instructions and it is running pretty steady. It had been running a little fast when the machine was printing. I can't get it to print ITTY.? It won't even print garbage.? The magnets lock up when the loop is energized.? I tried adjusting the range and armature settings according to the manual but that hasn't helped.?? It will type a few characters correctly and then type garbage.? I've been trying to type RY's with one hand while adjusting the Range setting with the other.? Not very easy.?? I am suspecting something needs to be adjusted with the armature because sometimes it will completely stop typing, won't do CR/LF, etc.? If I turn off the power and the loop it will still remain in a "locked" state until I manually push down on the armature.? It was very dry when I first got it and I've been lubing it profusely.Thanks in advance for any help.73KevinW5TTY______________________________________________________________GreenKeys mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeysHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net>>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool: https://teletype.net/gksearch>>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/>>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html>>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool: http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.htmlThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to steve.n4tty at gmail.com______________________________________________________________GreenKeys mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeysHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net>>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool: https://teletype.net/gksearch>>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/>>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html>>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool: http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.htmlThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to duncanancy at earthlink.net
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From Duncanancy at earthlink.net  Tue Oct  4 12:39:29 2022
From: Duncanancy at earthlink.net (Duncanancy)
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2022 12:39:29 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printing
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Kevin,The "Sent from my...." is just a joke - so many phones put there own tagline on, I decided to add my own.? But there are people here who do receive their email on their TTYs.Don't worry about motor speed until it starts printing.Did you try turning the motor by hand and, with the loop off, try moving the armature to see if it is moving the y-levers?Also, what is the status of the spring-bias? (Armature adjustment) With the loop off, the spring should be pulling the armature down, but with loop on, should be pulled up.Good luck & 73,DuncanK2OEQ?Sent from my Kleinschmidt TT-4/TG, the US Army's first portable digital communications device, 1950-1980
-------- Original message --------From: "Kevin H. Phillips" <kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org> Date: 10/4/22  08:35  (GMT-05:00) To: Duncanancy <Duncanancy at earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printing 
    Duncan,
    
    
    Thanks for the reply.? Fortunately, I do have a Kleinschmidt fork
      marked as 180vps.? I don't remember when I got it or why.? I do
      have a couple of TT-98's I need to restore so maybe that's why I
      got it.
    
    
    I wanted to ask you, first, about how you are using your TT-4 to
      send e-mail (judging from the tagline).? I thought it typed very
      easily, had a good feel, when it was working.? I guess I could try
      re-adjusting the motor to run a little fast and see if that does
      anything for the printing issue although I know that seems
      completely illogical.
    
    
    Are there any other areas besides the magnets that could be
      sensitive to oil/lubrication interfering?? I did what some people
      suggested and inserted pieces of paper between the armature and
      magnets to try to absorb any oil.? I also tried spraying it with
      contact cleaner and blowing it out with "canned air".? That seems
      to have helped a little but it still isn't working correctly.? One
      thing that seems to be better is that it now will run open when I
      turn off the loop supply.? Before it would not do that which also
      seemed illogical.? If I could get it to print ITTY, even garbage,
      then maybe any oil on the magnets, or other areas, would
      eventually burn off.
    
    
    73
    Kevin
    W5TTY
    
    On 10/3/2022 7:23 AM, Duncanancy wrote:
    
    
      
      KLI running fork is 180 vps.
      
      
      Motor speed is not too crucial and would not make
        it stop printing.
      
      
      Selector magnet area is quite sensitive.? Don't
        worry about Range control initially, just leave it at about 60.
      
      
      Oil or gunk on the selector magnet pole pieces
        most likely problem, but with loop off, check that armature
        operates properly.
      
      
      You should be able to turn motor by hand while
        manually moving armature and get it to print (type arm may not
        come up all the way)
      
      
      Good luck
      
      
      Duncan
      K2OEQ?
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
        
        Sent from my
          Kleinschmidt TT-4/TG, the US Army's first portable digital
          communications device, 1950-1980
        
        
        
        
      
      
      
      
      
      
        -------- Original message --------
        From: Steve Garrison <steve.n4tty at gmail.com> 
        Date: 10/3/22 06:09 (GMT-05:00) 
        To: "'Kevin H. Phillips'" <kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org>,
          'Greenkeys' <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net> 
        Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printing
        
        
        
      
      I am assuming it is a tuning fork for a Kleinschmidt.? If it was
      one for a Teletype Corp machine it would not work very well.? I'm
      afraid I don't remember the freq of the tuning fork for a
      Kleinschmidt., but I have one or more around here somewhere, but
      I'd have to dig to find them.? Maybe better minds might remember.
      
      Steve G./N4TTY
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net
      <greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Kevin H.
      Phillips
      Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 09:05 PM
      To: Greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
      Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printing
      
      I think I've exhausted my limited thoughts on this so I'll refer
      this to anyone who really knows what they are doing.
      
      
      I've been trying to get a TT-4C/TG running.? I had it typing
      pretty well 
      until I adjusted the motor speed and now I can't get it to
      replicate how 
      it was typing.? (I know:? if it ain't broke, don't fix it.)? I
      have a 
      tuning fork and adjusted the motor according to manual
      instructions and 
      it is running pretty steady. It had been running a little fast
      when the 
      machine was printing. I can't get it to print ITTY.? It won't even
      print 
      garbage.? The magnets lock up when the loop is energized.? I tried
      
      adjusting the range and armature settings according to the manual
      but 
      that hasn't helped.?? It will type a few characters correctly and
      then 
      type garbage.? I've been trying to type RY's with one hand while 
      adjusting the Range setting with the other.? Not very easy.?? I am
      
      suspecting something needs to be adjusted with the armature
      because 
      sometimes it will completely stop typing, won't do CR/LF, etc.? If
      I 
      turn off the power and the loop it will still remain in a "locked"
      state 
      until I manually push down on the armature.? It was very dry when
      I 
      first got it and I've been lubing it profusely.
      
      
      Thanks in advance for any help.
      
      
      73
      
      Kevin
      
      W5TTY
      
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From kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org  Tue Oct  4 21:10:35 2022
From: kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org (Kevin H. Phillips)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 20:10:35 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printing
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	<3241b67a-76ab-a4c3-7a4d-ee5d56aa8146@tapr.org>
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To follow up on this message I posted:? I have finally gotten the 
machine back to printing from the keyboard.? The problem probably was 
oil somewhere it shouldn't have been but the fix took some time.


I tried inserting pieces of paper between the armature and magnets to 
absorb any oil.? This did not help (at least at first or as far as I 
could tell).


I eventually tried spraying Contact Cleaner (WD-40 brand; it dries dry) 
between the magnets and armature.? This did not help. This evening I 
started spraying the Contact Cleaner more liberally all over the magnet 
area as well as on the electrical/electronic components behind the front 
panel.? This began to help.? I kept typing RY's 
(one-handed/two-fingered) while adjusting the Range and Armature 
controls back and forth.? I spent a lot of time doing this.? All I can 
say is that it finally started working properly. I was typing many lines 
of RY's as absolutely fast as I could without a single character dropped.


Another thing I tried was reducing the line current via the rheostat on 
the front panel.? I turned it down as far as it would go but the meter 
would not read below 30ma.? I tried slightly increasing it in stages up 
to about 45ma but the magnets seemed happiest at 30.? I may try a TU 
with an adjustable loop and see if I can get it lower and see if that 
helps . . . or hurts.


It still will not print ITTY.? The loop locks up and I can type on the 
keyboard but there is no print from ITTY.? I am going to try reducing 
the audio output and see if that does any good.? It is the only thing I 
can think to try at the moment.? Maybe the loop current is too high 
and/or the signal strength is just higher than these magnets can handle (??)


73

Kevin

W5TTY


From steve.n4tty at gmail.com  Tue Oct  4 21:16:50 2022
From: steve.n4tty at gmail.com (Steve Garrison)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 21:16:50 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printing
In-Reply-To: <4e0288c8-8902-0cc0-6427-7838c12ea4a3@9-5usa.org>
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Where was the range finder pointing when you got it typing.  If not near the center when typing on a local loop, then there are other issues.

Steve G./N4TTY
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2022, at 9:11 PM, Kevin H. Phillips <kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org> wrote:
> 
> ?To follow up on this message I posted:  I have finally gotten the machine back to printing from the keyboard.  The problem probably was oil somewhere it shouldn't have been but the fix took some time.
> 
> 
> I tried inserting pieces of paper between the armature and magnets to absorb any oil.  This did not help (at least at first or as far as I could tell).
> 
> 
> I eventually tried spraying Contact Cleaner (WD-40 brand; it dries dry) between the magnets and armature.  This did not help. This evening I started spraying the Contact Cleaner more liberally all over the magnet area as well as on the electrical/electronic components behind the front panel.  This began to help.  I kept typing RY's (one-handed/two-fingered) while adjusting the Range and Armature controls back and forth.  I spent a lot of time doing this.  All I can say is that it finally started working properly. I was typing many lines of RY's as absolutely fast as I could without a single character dropped.
> 
> 
> Another thing I tried was reducing the line current via the rheostat on the front panel.  I turned it down as far as it would go but the meter would not read below 30ma.  I tried slightly increasing it in stages up to about 45ma but the magnets seemed happiest at 30.  I may try a TU with an adjustable loop and see if I can get it lower and see if that helps . . . or hurts.
> 
> 
> It still will not print ITTY.  The loop locks up and I can type on the keyboard but there is no print from ITTY.  I am going to try reducing the audio output and see if that does any good.  It is the only thing I can think to try at the moment.  Maybe the loop current is too high and/or the signal strength is just higher than these magnets can handle (??)
> 
> 
> 73
> 
> Kevin
> 
> W5TTY
> 
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From kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org  Wed Oct  5 07:15:54 2022
From: kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org (Kevin H. Phillips)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 06:15:54 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printing
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	<317b8cfc-cbf6-67a6-a323-f04992db5ba4@9-5usa.org>
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On 10/4/2022 9:25 PM, Jim Cooper wrote:
> Your selector magnets may be wired
> for 20 mA loop current (holding magnet),
> in which case 30mA or more would be
> way too much current.

I will see if I have a TU with a loop that can be adjusted that low.? 
The one I was using does not.? The adjustment on the TT-4 would not go 
lower than 30ma (according to the meter).


73

Kevin

>
>
>

From duncanancy at earthlink.net  Wed Oct  5 08:48:32 2022
From: duncanancy at earthlink.net (Duncan Brown)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 08:48:32 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printing
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Kleinschmidts do not use a holding magnet and they all have a switch 
(and/or plug) to change between 20 & 60 ma.

I think one of Kevin's problems was that he was putting 60 ma in while 
the TT-4 was set for "VF" (20ma)

I have no explanation of why he can type on the machine OK, but it runs 
closed when he tries to receive ITTY.

Duncan
K2OEQ


On 05-Oct-22 07:15, Kevin H. Phillips wrote:
> On 10/4/2022 9:25 PM, Jim Cooper wrote:
>> Your selector magnets may be wired
>> for 20 mA loop current (holding magnet),
>> in which case 30mA or more would be
>> way too much current.
>
> I will see if I have a TU with a loop that can be adjusted that low.? 
> The one I was using does not.? The adjustment on the TT-4 would not go 
> lower than 30ma (according to the meter).
>
>
> 73
>
> Kevin
>
>>
>>
>>
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From kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org  Wed Oct  5 09:04:17 2022
From: kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org (Kevin H. Phillips)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 08:04:17 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printing
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	> Looks like there is a line switch for selecting the current loop.
Would

	> verify that it is in DC Line.

	>


	Yes, I have had it set to DC Line.? I was very glad to find that
manual online and have been using it a lot!? Thank you,
Nick!?? I "think", but do not know for certain, that
the machine may have been in a 20ma set-up before and so that's why I
wondered if it had been hardwired for 20ma.? I have tried the
various set-ups shown in the manual but still haven't been able to get it
to print ITTY.? It is possible it is geared for 100wpm so I will try
that channel of ITTY but I would have thought it would at least print
garbage.? There is no "chatter" from the magnets at
all.


	?


	73


	Kevin

	> According to a TT-4 manual on this site.

	> https://rattrig.com/manuals/tm's.htm

	>

	> (2) Set the LINE switch of the TT-4(*)/TG and TT-335/TG (fig. 1-7)
to Dc

	> line for 60-ma signal circuit operation (operation in a dc system)
(fig.

	> 1-3) or to VOICE FREQ LINE for 20-ma signal circuit operation
(operation

	> in

	> a voice- frequency system).

	>

	>

	> On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:11 PM Kevin H. Phillips
<kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org>

	> wrote:

	>

	>> To follow up on this message I posted: I have finally gotten
the

	>> machine back to printing from the keyboard. The problem probably
was

	>> oil somewhere it shouldn't have been but the fix took some
time.

	>>

	>>

	>> I tried inserting pieces of paper between the armature and
magnets to

	>> absorb any oil. This did not help (at least at first or as far
as I

	>> could tell).

	>>

	>>

	>> I eventually tried spraying Contact Cleaner (WD-40 brand; it
dries dry)

	>> between the magnets and armature. This did not help. This
evening I

	>> started spraying the Contact Cleaner more liberally all over the
magnet

	>> area as well as on the electrical/electronic components behind
the front

	>> panel. This began to help. I kept typing RY's

	>> (one-handed/two-fingered) while adjusting the Range and
Armature

	>> controls back and forth. I spent a lot of time doing this. All I
can

	>> say is that it finally started working properly. I was typing
many lines

	>> of RY's as absolutely fast as I could without a single
character

	>> dropped.

	>>

	>>

	>> Another thing I tried was reducing the line current via the
rheostat on

	>> the front panel. I turned it down as far as it would go but the
meter

	>> would not read below 30ma. I tried slightly increasing it in
stages up

	>> to about 45ma but the magnets seemed happiest at 30. I may try a
TU

	>> with an adjustable loop and see if I can get it lower and see if
that

	>> helps . . . or hurts.

	>>

	>>

	>> It still will not print ITTY. The loop locks up and I can type
on the

	>> keyboard but there is no print from ITTY. I am going to try
reducing

	>> the audio output and see if that does any good. It is the only
thing I

	>> can think to try at the moment. Maybe the loop current is too
high

	>> and/or the signal strength is just higher than these magnets can
handle

	>> (??)

	>>

	>>

	>> 73

	>>

	>> Kevin

	>>

	>> W5TTY

	>>

	>>
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	>> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html

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From craneplc at gmail.com  Wed Oct  5 08:50:19 2022
From: craneplc at gmail.com (Pete G)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 08:50:19 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printing
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Looks like there is a line switch for selecting the current loop. Would
verify that it is in DC Line.

According to a TT-4 manual on this site.
https://rattrig.com/manuals/tm's.htm

(2) Set the LINE switch of the TT-4(*)/TG and TT-335/TG (fig. 1-7) to Dc
line for 60-ma signal circuit operation (operation in a dc system) (fig.
1-3) or to VOICE FREQ LINE for 20-ma signal circuit operation (operation in
a voice- frequency system).


On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:11 PM Kevin H. Phillips <kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org>
wrote:

> To follow up on this message I posted:  I have finally gotten the
> machine back to printing from the keyboard.  The problem probably was
> oil somewhere it shouldn't have been but the fix took some time.
>
>
> I tried inserting pieces of paper between the armature and magnets to
> absorb any oil.  This did not help (at least at first or as far as I
> could tell).
>
>
> I eventually tried spraying Contact Cleaner (WD-40 brand; it dries dry)
> between the magnets and armature.  This did not help. This evening I
> started spraying the Contact Cleaner more liberally all over the magnet
> area as well as on the electrical/electronic components behind the front
> panel.  This began to help.  I kept typing RY's
> (one-handed/two-fingered) while adjusting the Range and Armature
> controls back and forth.  I spent a lot of time doing this.  All I can
> say is that it finally started working properly. I was typing many lines
> of RY's as absolutely fast as I could without a single character dropped.
>
>
> Another thing I tried was reducing the line current via the rheostat on
> the front panel.  I turned it down as far as it would go but the meter
> would not read below 30ma.  I tried slightly increasing it in stages up
> to about 45ma but the magnets seemed happiest at 30.  I may try a TU
> with an adjustable loop and see if I can get it lower and see if that
> helps . . . or hurts.
>
>
> It still will not print ITTY.  The loop locks up and I can type on the
> keyboard but there is no print from ITTY.  I am going to try reducing
> the audio output and see if that does any good.  It is the only thing I
> can think to try at the moment.  Maybe the loop current is too high
> and/or the signal strength is just higher than these magnets can handle
> (??)
>
>
> 73
>
> Kevin
>
> W5TTY
>
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> >>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive:
> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
> >>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:
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From djones at k6yic.com  Sat Oct  8 10:40:07 2022
From: djones at k6yic.com (Daniel Jones)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 07:40:07 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] TS-917/GG
Message-ID: <5882FA5A-4B99-4492-99B1-B51E508D7A68@k6yic.com>

Picked up this cool distortion analyzer in non-working condition.  Found a bad wire wound power resistor and now it works great (a side from needing to do a bit of an alignment) figured some would find it interesting.  




Daniel

www.K6YIC.com
DJones at K6YIC.com
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From n5mhi.jon at gmail.com  Fri Oct  7 17:23:15 2022
From: n5mhi.jon at gmail.com (Jon N5MHI)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 16:23:15 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] 3/8" strip paper for Model 14 strip printer - and a
	few Keytops
Message-ID: <4A661FC3-99DA-4BE1-80B9-E63C1C8E2E67@gmail.com>

Thanks Nick for the strip paper!
I finally got the (hopefully) last road block fixed so that it will print.   It had sat so long that the pressure on the platen slightly egg shaped it so the piece of metal designed to keep the paper from wrapping around the platen hit it slightly every rotation for a couple characters.  I had to manually advance it each time. About every 40 characters.  A slight bend with a screwdriver freed up it up.  

Here is a link to the video I just shot of it copying ITTY.  

I have the cabinet for it. I?m working on cleaning it up.  They are more interesting, although loud with it off.  

https://youtu.be/DrLhuvxQxOA

73,
Jon N5MHI

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From kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org  Sat Oct  8 11:20:33 2022
From: kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org (Kevin H. Phillips)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 10:20:33 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printing
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I have a follow-up to this story.? The printer is working pretty well 
now.? The problem ultimately was that one side of the loop was being 
grounded.? I was trading e-mails with Duncan Brown about this and after 
hearing my descriptions of the machine's behavior he suggested there 
might be a short somewhere; that either my terminal unit (an IRL 
FSK-1000 that I had never actually used) was not working or there was a 
problem with my cable.? I couldn't think of any reason there could be a 
short.? I started reading the FSK-1000's manual on the section about the 
loop jack.? It stated that the connector was a 3-conductor jack with the 
sleeve being chassis ground.? Then it dawned on me that the connector on 
the cable I was using, that I built several years ago, was only a 
2-conductor cable.? So, that's where the short was.? Duncan suggested 
that I try the Dovetron TU I have since it has two loop jacks:? one 
3-conductor and one 2-conductor.? Once I used used the 2-conductor jack 
then things started falling into place.? I may have built the cable for 
the Dovetron but it had been several years since I had used it.


The other thing is that the machine has 100wpm gears in it.? Last night 
I was able to connect it up to ITTY100.? It printed mostly fine.? I 
don't have a permanent Internet connection in the new shack yet but can 
get a wi-fi extender to pick up the signal from the house weakly.? It 
drops out often but it was good enough to establish that the machine 
seems to be working pretty well.? The 60wpm gears are with the machine 
so I will change those in soon.


The Range on the machine is right at 60 and the Armature is now around 
45-50.? I haven't tried adjusting any of that and this time I think I 
will leave well enough alone!


It turned out to be one of those simple issues that was hard to diagnose.


Thanks to everyone who offered advice.


73

Kevin

W5TTY


From steve.n4tty at gmail.com  Sat Oct  8 14:25:58 2022
From: steve.n4tty at gmail.com (Steve Garrison)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 14:25:58 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG not printing
In-Reply-To: <3526dfe1-755b-4b00-2a5d-e682a9085bc7@9-5usa.org>
References: <3526dfe1-755b-4b00-2a5d-e682a9085bc7@9-5usa.org>
Message-ID: <4E575B3C-3F5F-493A-93FC-48D5C69DCF13@gmail.com>

Great news Phillip!

Steve G./N4TTY
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 8, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Kevin H. Phillips <kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I have a follow-up to this story.  The printer is working pretty well now.  The problem ultimately was that one side of the loop was being grounded.  I was trading e-mails with Duncan Brown about this and after hearing my descriptions of the machine's behavior he suggested there might be a short somewhere; that either my terminal unit (an IRL FSK-1000 that I had never actually used) was not working or there was a problem with my cable.  I couldn't think of any reason there could be a short.  I started reading the FSK-1000's manual on the section about the loop jack.  It stated that the connector was a 3-conductor jack with the sleeve being chassis ground.  Then it dawned on me that the connector on the cable I was using, that I built several years ago, was only a 2-conductor cable.  So, that's where the short was.  Duncan suggested that I try the Dovetron TU I have since it has two loop jacks:  one 3-conductor and one 2-conductor.  Once I used used the 2-conductor jack then things started falling into place.  I may have built the cable for the Dovetron but it had been several years since I had used it.
> 
> 
> The other thing is that the machine has 100wpm gears in it.  Last night I was able to connect it up to ITTY100.  It printed mostly fine.  I don't have a permanent Internet connection in the new shack yet but can get a wi-fi extender to pick up the signal from the house weakly.  It drops out often but it was good enough to establish that the machine seems to be working pretty well.  The 60wpm gears are with the machine so I will change those in soon.
> 
> 
> The Range on the machine is right at 60 and the Armature is now around 45-50.  I haven't tried adjusting any of that and this time I think I will leave well enough alone!
> 
> 
> It turned out to be one of those simple issues that was hard to diagnose.
> 
> 
> Thanks to everyone who offered advice.
> 
> 
> 73
> 
> Kevin
> 
> W5TTY
> 
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From paul0926 at comcast.net  Sat Oct  8 15:49:18 2022
From: paul0926 at comcast.net (Paul Heller)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 13:49:18 -0600
Subject: [GreenKeys] 3/8" strip paper for Model 14 strip printer - and a
	few Keytops
In-Reply-To: <4A661FC3-99DA-4BE1-80B9-E63C1C8E2E67@gmail.com>
References: <4A661FC3-99DA-4BE1-80B9-E63C1C8E2E67@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <958F3E49-31D6-4380-9326-96AF5879DC8D@comcast.net>

Wow that looks good!

Paul
W2TTY


> On Oct 8, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Jon N5MHI <n5mhi.jon at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Thanks Nick for the strip paper!
> I finally got the (hopefully) last road block fixed so that it will print.   It had sat so long that the pressure on the platen slightly egg shaped it so the piece of metal designed to keep the paper from wrapping around the platen hit it slightly every rotation for a couple characters.  I had to manually advance it each time. About every 40 characters.  A slight bend with a screwdriver freed up it up.  
> 
> Here is a link to the video I just shot of it copying ITTY.  
> 
> I have the cabinet for it. I?m working on cleaning it up.  They are more interesting, although loud with it off.  
> 
> https://youtu.be/DrLhuvxQxOA
> 
> 73,
> Jon N5MHI
> 
> ______________________________________________________________
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>>>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
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From smj at w0tty.com  Sat Oct  8 15:59:29 2022
From: smj at w0tty.com (Stephen M. Jones (W0TTY))
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 12:59:29 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Looking for a model 15 keyboard
Message-ID: <0EDBBEED-C0F4-4327-B326-7466897320DC@w0tty.com>

I'm looking for a Model 15 keyboard for a KSR I'm working on cleaning up.
If anyone has one that is complete and in decent shape or even minor rust,
please get in touch.   Thank you

de W0TTY


From harold at w6iwi.org  Sat Oct  8 16:28:17 2022
From: harold at w6iwi.org (Harold Hallikainen)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 13:28:17 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Looking for a model 15 keyboard
In-Reply-To: <0EDBBEED-C0F4-4327-B326-7466897320DC@w0tty.com>
References: <0EDBBEED-C0F4-4327-B326-7466897320DC@w0tty.com>
Message-ID: <24043dbdfbbbf899884635caf8f18f7a.squirrel@hallikainen.org>



On Sat, October 8, 2022 12:59 pm, Stephen M. Jones (W0TTY) wrote:
> I'm looking for a Model 15 keyboard for a KSR I'm working on cleaning up.
> If anyone has one that is complete and in decent shape or even minor rust,
> please get in touch.   Thank you
>
> de W0TTY

If no one comes up with one, I bought one from Mr. RTTY a couple years
ago. I suspect he has more.

Harold
https://w6iwi.org


From kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org  Thu Oct 13 08:45:15 2022
From: kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org (Kevin H. Phillips)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 07:45:15 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG and TT-76 printing 100wpm
Message-ID: <ce06ec50-b41a-9d3a-2487-28ee72c1e7ac@9-5usa.org>

Below are links to two videos I took this past Sunday when I had a 
chance to hook up the TT-4 and TT-76 to the ITTY 100wpm channel for an 
extended time.? I have really only lubricated them (very, very well) and 
adjusted the motor speeds a little.? They haven't needed any other works 
as far as I know now.? I need to replace the ribbon on the TT-4.? The 
ribbon feed was not working properly and I did discover that the feeler 
arm was binding in the ribbon holder.? I ended up trying to bend it out 
a bit and that solved the problem.? If the holder seems "off" a bit 
compared to the other one then that is why.? It is the only "easy" way I 
could think of to solve that problem.


73

Kevin

W5TTY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHK13Ahtp3A


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nENB1JgVfoE




From duncanancy at earthlink.net  Thu Oct 13 09:13:36 2022
From: duncanancy at earthlink.net (Duncan Brown)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 09:13:36 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG and TT-76 printing 100wpm
In-Reply-To: <ce06ec50-b41a-9d3a-2487-28ee72c1e7ac@9-5usa.org>
References: <ce06ec50-b41a-9d3a-2487-28ee72c1e7ac@9-5usa.org>
Message-ID: <da9183b3-ebd0-84f5-6a23-f899323219ef@earthlink.net>

Great videos Kevin!

I've seen a lot of TT-4s & TT-76s, but never seen them at 100WPM.

Looking at the keyboard, I think you have a "TT-4A".? Having the model 
number & serial number on the cover was convenient, but covers often got 
switched in maintenance shops. (Or maybe you have a TT-4C chassis with a 
TT-4A keyboard.)

We? have a TT-76B with a TT-76C cover (or vice-versa) and the wrong 
cover interferes with the character counter mechanism,? Took me a while 
to figure out what was going on, since it worked fine without the cover.

Have fun,

Duncan
K2OEQ


On 13-Oct-22 08:45, Kevin H. Phillips wrote:
> Below are links to two videos I took this past Sunday when I had a 
> chance to hook up the TT-4 and TT-76 to the ITTY 100wpm channel for an 
> extended time.? I have really only lubricated them (very, very well) 
> and adjusted the motor speeds a little.? They haven't needed any other 
> works as far as I know now.? I need to replace the ribbon on the 
> TT-4.? The ribbon feed was not working properly and I did discover 
> that the feeler arm was binding in the ribbon holder.? I ended up 
> trying to bend it out a bit and that solved the problem.? If the 
> holder seems "off" a bit compared to the other one then that is why.? 
> It is the only "easy" way I could think of to solve that problem.
>
>
> 73
>
> Kevin
>
> W5TTY
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHK13Ahtp3A
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nENB1JgVfoE
>
>
>
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From paul0926 at comcast.net  Thu Oct 13 14:35:34 2022
From: paul0926 at comcast.net (Paul Heller)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 11:35:34 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG and TT-76 printing 100wpm
In-Reply-To: <ce06ec50-b41a-9d3a-2487-28ee72c1e7ac@9-5usa.org>
References: <ce06ec50-b41a-9d3a-2487-28ee72c1e7ac@9-5usa.org>
Message-ID: <087C8263-0D14-4E71-8A68-D230028AA9F9@comcast.net>

Looks good!

Paul
W2TTY

> On Oct 13, 2022, at 5:46 AM, Kevin H. Phillips <kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Below are links to two videos I took this past Sunday when I had a chance to hook up the TT-4 and TT-76 to the ITTY 100wpm channel for an extended time.  I have really only lubricated them (very, very well) and adjusted the motor speeds a little.  They haven't needed any other works as far as I know now.  I need to replace the ribbon on the TT-4.  The ribbon feed was not working properly and I did discover that the feeler arm was binding in the ribbon holder.  I ended up trying to bend it out a bit and that solved the problem.  If the holder seems "off" a bit compared to the other one then that is why.  It is the only "easy" way I could think of to solve that problem.
> 
> 
> 73
> 
> Kevin
> 
> W5TTY
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHK13Ahtp3A
> 
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nENB1JgVfoE
> 
> 
> 
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>>>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
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From w2hx at w2hx.com  Thu Oct 13 14:44:50 2022
From: w2hx at w2hx.com (W2HX)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 18:44:50 +0000
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG and TT-76 printing 100wpm
In-Reply-To: <ce06ec50-b41a-9d3a-2487-28ee72c1e7ac@9-5usa.org>
References: <ce06ec50-b41a-9d3a-2487-28ee72c1e7ac@9-5usa.org>
Message-ID: <c02018ffc4214eec9b86fc0c97689f1c@EXBE015SV3.NA02.MSEXCHANGEOUTLOOK.COM>

Superb!


73 Eugene W2HX
Subscribe to my Youtube Channel:?https://www.youtube.com/c/w2hx-channel/videos

-----Original Message-----
From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net <greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Kevin H. Phillips
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 8:45 AM
To: Greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG and TT-76 printing 100wpm

Below are links to two videos I took this past Sunday when I had a chance to hook up the TT-4 and TT-76 to the ITTY 100wpm channel for an extended time.? I have really only lubricated them (very, very well) and adjusted the motor speeds a little.? They haven't needed any other works as far as I know now.? I need to replace the ribbon on the TT-4.? The ribbon feed was not working properly and I did discover that the feeler arm was binding in the ribbon holder.? I ended up trying to bend it out a bit and that solved the problem.? If the holder seems "off" a bit compared to the other one then that is why.? It is the only "easy" way I could think of to solve that problem.


73

Kevin

W5TTY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHK13Ahtp3A


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nENB1JgVfoE



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>>> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive: 
>>> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
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From navy.radio at gmail.com  Thu Oct 13 15:06:40 2022
From: navy.radio at gmail.com (Nick England)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 15:06:40 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG and TT-76 printing 100wpm
In-Reply-To: <c02018ffc4214eec9b86fc0c97689f1c@EXBE015SV3.NA02.MSEXCHANGEOUTLOOK.COM>
References: <ce06ec50-b41a-9d3a-2487-28ee72c1e7ac@9-5usa.org>
	<c02018ffc4214eec9b86fc0c97689f1c@EXBE015SV3.NA02.MSEXCHANGEOUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <CAB55hNffNzarGMupAKu6nCk-bh4JbE+w_3235tW=sfpTfxG_8A@mail.gmail.com>

I love my Model 28s, but your 100wpm TT-4 is sure beautiful to watch. Well
done!
Nick

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net <greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
> On Behalf Of Kevin H. Phillips
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 8:45 AM
> To: Greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG and TT-76 printing 100wpm
>
> Below are links to two videos I took this past Sunday when I had a chance
> to hook up the TT-4 and TT-76 to the ITTY 100wpm channel for an extended
> time.  I have really only lubricated them (very, very well) and adjusted
> the motor speeds a little.  They haven't needed any other works as far as I
> know now.  I need to replace the ribbon on the TT-4.  The ribbon feed was
> not working properly and I did discover that the feeler arm was binding in
> the ribbon holder.  I ended up trying to bend it out a bit and that solved
> the problem.  If the holder seems "off" a bit compared to the other one
> then that is why.  It is the only "easy" way I could think of to solve that
> problem.
>
>
> 73
>
> Kevin
>
> W5TTY
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHK13Ahtp3A
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nENB1JgVfoE
>
>
>
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> >>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool:
> >>> https://teletype.net/gksearch 2002-to-present greenkeys archive:
> >>> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
> >>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:
> >>> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
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> https://teletype.net/gksearch
> >>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive:
> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
> >>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:
> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
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From kn4ucl at gmail.com  Thu Oct 13 18:14:22 2022
From: kn4ucl at gmail.com (Andy KN4UCL)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 18:14:22 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG and TT-76 printing 100wpm
In-Reply-To: <ce06ec50-b41a-9d3a-2487-28ee72c1e7ac@9-5usa.org>
References: <ce06ec50-b41a-9d3a-2487-28ee72c1e7ac@9-5usa.org>
Message-ID: <CA+H6KC=DeU3mEoMgjHBdut996dTnYLrQUVk2+=McmG0we0ovMQ@mail.gmail.com>

Fantastic... and fast!

On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 8:45 AM Kevin H. Phillips <kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org>
wrote:

> Below are links to two videos I took this past Sunday when I had a
> chance to hook up the TT-4 and TT-76 to the ITTY 100wpm channel for an
> extended time.  I have really only lubricated them (very, very well) and
> adjusted the motor speeds a little.  They haven't needed any other works
> as far as I know now.  I need to replace the ribbon on the TT-4.  The
> ribbon feed was not working properly and I did discover that the feeler
> arm was binding in the ribbon holder.  I ended up trying to bend it out
> a bit and that solved the problem.  If the holder seems "off" a bit
> compared to the other one then that is why.  It is the only "easy" way I
> could think of to solve that problem.
>
>
> 73
>
> Kevin
>
> W5TTY
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHK13Ahtp3A
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nENB1JgVfoE
>
>
>
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> >>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool:
> https://teletype.net/gksearch
> >>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive:
> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
> >>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:
> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
> >>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool:
> http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
>
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From kn7sfz at gmail.com  Thu Oct 13 19:21:52 2022
From: kn7sfz at gmail.com (kn7sfz)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 16:21:52 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG and TT-76 printing 100wpm
In-Reply-To: <ce06ec50-b41a-9d3a-2487-28ee72c1e7ac@9-5usa.org>
References: <ce06ec50-b41a-9d3a-2487-28ee72c1e7ac@9-5usa.org>
Message-ID: <2ef6625e-782a-75e0-a49c-39ae00a6d835@gmail.com>

Splendid presentation!!!

kn7sfz


On 10/13/2022 5:45 AM, Kevin H. Phillips wrote:
> Below are links to two videos I took this past Sunday when I had a 
> chance to hook up the TT-4 and TT-76 to the ITTY 100wpm channel for an 
> extended time.? I have really only lubricated them (very, very well) 
> and adjusted the motor speeds a little.? They haven't needed any other 
> works as far as I know now.? I need to replace the ribbon on the 
> TT-4.? The ribbon feed was not working properly and I did discover 
> that the feeler arm was binding in the ribbon holder.? I ended up 
> trying to bend it out a bit and that solved the problem.? If the 
> holder seems "off" a bit compared to the other one then that is why.? 
> It is the only "easy" way I could think of to solve that problem.
>
>
> 73
>
> Kevin
>
> W5TTY
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHK13Ahtp3A
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nENB1JgVfoE
>
>
>
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From robert.h.goff at gmail.com  Thu Oct 13 22:34:34 2022
From: robert.h.goff at gmail.com (R.H. Goff)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 19:34:34 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Free for Postage: RSGB Teleprinter Handbook
Message-ID: <CAF6Vb57EMMRy2AqFwa4W4Yfk2w=DxP1Nnn9f5fc5Pof5T4UN0A@mail.gmail.com>

Since this is an English book, the focus is on GPO machines like
Creed, but there is also lots of good information on Teletype
equipment, as well as Siemens and Kleinschmidt. From the free table at
the last hamfest (I already have a copy:)

Postage should be $5 at the most.

73,
de Robert W7MKA

From n4xy at comcast.net  Fri Oct 14 01:00:05 2022
From: n4xy at comcast.net (Edward Tanton)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 01:00:05 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG and TT-76 printing 100wpm
In-Reply-To: <CAB55hNffNzarGMupAKu6nCk-bh4JbE+w_3235tW=sfpTfxG_8A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: jCnlofbxOa52hjCnnoYMIK.1665723616.b4ab4845b3e3739ae63fb740ac6d4f84.MISSINGID@comcast.net

I have 2 machine: a M15 and a TT4-B. Ever since I got the depot-refreshed TT4-B, I have loved it.?Ed Tanton N4XY?Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
-------- Original message --------From: Nick England <navy.radio at gmail.com> Date: 10/13/22  3:07 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: "Kevin H. Phillips" <kh-phillips at 9-5usa.org> Cc: Greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG and TT-76 printing 100wpm I love my Model 28s, but your 100wpm TT-4 is sure beautiful to watch. Well done!Nick

-----Original Message-----
From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net <greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Kevin H. Phillips
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 8:45 AM
To: Greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [GreenKeys] Kleinschmidt TT-4C/TG and TT-76 printing 100wpm

Below are links to two videos I took this past Sunday when I had a chance to hook up the TT-4 and TT-76 to the ITTY 100wpm channel for an extended time.? I have really only lubricated them (very, very well) and adjusted the motor speeds a little.? They haven't needed any other works as far as I know now.? I need to replace the ribbon on the TT-4.? The ribbon feed was not working properly and I did discover that the feeler arm was binding in the ribbon holder.? I ended up trying to bend it out a bit and that solved the problem.? If the holder seems "off" a bit compared to the other one then that is why.? It is the only "easy" way I could think of to solve that problem.


73

Kevin

W5TTY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHK13Ahtp3A


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nENB1JgVfoE



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>>> https://teletype.net/gksearch 2002-to-present greenkeys archive: 
>>> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive: 
>>> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
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>>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
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From trnsrme at gmail.com  Fri Oct 14 15:11:05 2022
From: trnsrme at gmail.com (Kenneth Gartland)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 15:11:05 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] RSGB Handbook...
Message-ID: <FBB331D7-E991-4064-B49F-80D3F75C3A8D@gmail.com>

Hi!

Note for Robert Goff c/o Greenkeys...

If not already spoken for, would like have this copy of the RSGB Handbook,
just let me know at your convenience, and we can go from there!

Many thanks for your consideration!

Cheers & 73?

Ken
VE3-HMQ

Sent from my iPad

From harold at w6iwi.org  Fri Oct 14 16:47:21 2022
From: harold at w6iwi.org (Harold Hallikainen)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 13:47:21 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] HF Autostart Reminder
Message-ID: <462df511de1d061f85b6778b4fb6fd72.squirrel@hallikainen.org>

Note that several of us have machines on autostart on the frequencies
listed in the attachment (which I hope gets through!).

Harold
https://w6iwi.org
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From djones at k6yic.com  Fri Oct 14 20:51:37 2022
From: djones at k6yic.com (Daniel Jones)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 17:51:37 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] West Coast RATT/RTTY net
Message-ID: <7E2FC323-FD1E-4642-91B9-A62865D60905@k6yic.com>

As a reminder? 

Clatternet @ 0900 Pacific. 

7087kc USB 850hz shift 45.45 Baud.  

I will throw out some test messages starting at 0845.  

If there is QRP we will move up 2kc. 

Daniel

www.K6YIC.com
DJones at K6YIC.com
HH#11973

From jim at videoterm.com  Sat Oct 15 00:21:30 2022
From: jim at videoterm.com (Jim Taylor)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 23:21:30 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] Interesting Sighting - Model 15RO
Message-ID: <758ebcff-f725-67f4-00c6-70994e5c4e81@videoterm.com>

Sighted at the Seward County Kansas Historical Society - also home of 
memorabilia of 'Dorothy from 'Wizard of oz'

Caused a brief episode of deja vu.? I worked on dozens and dozens of 
these - and their Model 20RO cousins - throughout Wisconsin, U.P. of 
Michigan and parts of Minnesota when I worked for the Associated Press 
from 1966-1974.? This machine was very clean and looked ready to put 
back into service.

73,

Jim, K9JT
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From djones at k6yic.com  Sat Oct 15 12:33:31 2022
From: djones at k6yic.com (Daniel Jones)
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 09:33:31 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] West Coast RATT/RTTY net
In-Reply-To: <7E2FC323-FD1E-4642-91B9-A62865D60905@k6yic.com>
Message-ID: <DBB383F5-A5DD-4849-9856-2E3CD8315C52@k6yic.com>

Only had 1 other on the MRCG Net today.  It seems that the military tones 1575/2425 are an issue for some out here.

We will try again next week (OCT 22) on 170hz shift on (7086 LSB)  and 850hz military (7087 USB) on the following weekend (Oct 29)

Daniel



> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Daniel Jones <djones at k6yic.com>
> Date: 10/14/22 5:52 PM (GMT-07:00)
> To: Greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [GreenKeys] West Coast RATT/RTTY net
> 
> As a reminder? 
> 
> Clatternet @ 0900 Pacific. 
> 
> 7087kc USB 850hz shift 45.45 Baud.  
> 
> I will throw out some test messages starting at 0845.  
> 
> If there is QRP we will move up 2kc. 
> 
> Daniel
> 
> www.K6YIC.com
> DJones at K6YIC.com
> HH#11973
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> >>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
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From navy.radio at gmail.com  Sat Oct 15 12:57:37 2022
From: navy.radio at gmail.com (Nick England)
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 12:57:37 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] KA3EKH remote operation next weekend
Message-ID: <CAB55hNcUws0YPdk=aj5CW02He=D9sagygSySAu--C5Sv_Cj_Yw@mail.gmail.com>

Ray KA3EKH will be operating from Fort Miles Delaware next weekend. He'll
be on the Saturday 850 shift RATT net (0900 eastern, 7087kc) and said he'll
also be doing some 20m RATT.

Nick England K4NYW
www.navy-radio.com
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From harold at w6iwi.org  Sat Oct 15 13:07:13 2022
From: harold at w6iwi.org (Harold Hallikainen)
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 10:07:13 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] West Coast RATT/RTTY net
In-Reply-To: <DBB383F5-A5DD-4849-9856-2E3CD8315C52@k6yic.com>
References: <DBB383F5-A5DD-4849-9856-2E3CD8315C52@k6yic.com>
Message-ID: <322c8da7d2a87800c44c98ba26f37ae5.squirrel@hallikainen.org>

I'll try to make the 170 Hz shift net next week. Are the 1575/2425 Hz
tones standard for 850 Hz shift? I used 2125/2975 50 years ago, but I was
directly shifting a Viking Ranger and receiving with a National NC-300.
2975 Hz will definitely not make it through my SSB transceiver. I imagine
my Flesher TU-170 could be tuned to 1575/2425, but it would be a pain to
tune it back and forth. It is easy to make my DSP TU
(https://w6iwi.org/rtty/DspTU/ ) to use whatever tones are needed, but it
is not quite ready for prime time yet.

See you next week on 170 Hz shift.

Harold

On Sat, October 15, 2022 9:33 am, Daniel Jones wrote:
> Only had 1 other on the MRCG Net today.  It seems that the military tones
> 1575/2425 are an issue for some out here.
>
> We will try again next week (OCT 22) on 170hz shift on (7086 LSB)  and
> 850hz military (7087 USB) on the following weekend (Oct 29)
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Daniel Jones <djones at k6yic.com>
>> Date: 10/14/22 5:52 PM (GMT-07:00)
>> To: Greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: [GreenKeys] West Coast RATT/RTTY net
>>
>> As a reminder???
>>
>> Clatternet @ 0900 Pacific.
>>
>> 7087kc USB 850hz shift 45.45 Baud.
>>
>> I will throw out some test messages starting at 0845.
>>
>> If there is QRP we will move up 2kc.
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> www.K6YIC.com
>> DJones at K6YIC.com
>> HH#11973
>> ______________________________________________________________
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>> https://teletype.net/gksearch
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>> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>> >>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:
>> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
>> >>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool:
>> http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
>>
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>>>> https://teletype.net/gksearch
>>>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive:
>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>>>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:
>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
>>>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool:
>>>> http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
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From djones at k6yic.com  Sat Oct 15 13:26:07 2022
From: djones at k6yic.com (Daniel Jones)
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 10:26:07 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Ratt net
Message-ID: <48654E23-215F-49BF-837A-BD84A7AE5BC2@k6yic.com>

The military centers theirs on 2000hz which leads to the tones you listed.  

www.K6YIC.com
DJones at K6YIC.com
HH#11973

From navy.radio at gmail.com  Sat Oct 15 14:33:02 2022
From: navy.radio at gmail.com (Nick England)
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 14:33:02 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] West Coast RATT/RTTY net
In-Reply-To: <322c8da7d2a87800c44c98ba26f37ae5.squirrel@hallikainen.org>
References: <DBB383F5-A5DD-4849-9856-2E3CD8315C52@k6yic.com>
	<322c8da7d2a87800c44c98ba26f37ae5.squirrel@hallikainen.org>
Message-ID: <CAB55hNdKfQeRn5dzKDZs7C-y2vi9xVDQiS34GuSb0Lr-+u6G1w@mail.gmail.com>

If I am transmitting military RATT on 7087 (USB, 2 khz tone. 850 shift,
mark low) that means mark is 7088.575 and space is 7089.425
Can't you just tune your ham transceiver so that you are receiving and
transmitting on those frequencies?.
If you are running 2125M/2975S tones, tune your transceiver to 7091.55 LSB
and reverse M-S. Or tune your transceiver to 7086.45 USB and you don't have
to reverse M-S.

Having typed the above I am sure I have transposed or miscalculated
something, or missed the obvious fatal flaw.....

Nick England K4NYW
www.navy-radio.com


On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 1:07 PM Harold Hallikainen via GreenKeys <
greenkeys at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> I'll try to make the 170 Hz shift net next week. Are the 1575/2425 Hz
> tones standard for 850 Hz shift? I used 2125/2975 50 years ago, but I was
> directly shifting a Viking Ranger and receiving with a National NC-300.
> 2975 Hz will definitely not make it through my SSB transceiver. I imagine
> my Flesher TU-170 could be tuned to 1575/2425, but it would be a pain to
> tune it back and forth. It is easy to make my DSP TU
> (https://w6iwi.org/rtty/DspTU/ ) to use whatever tones are needed, but it
> is not quite ready for prime time yet.
>
> See you next week on 170 Hz shift.
>
> Harold
>
> On Sat, October 15, 2022 9:33 am, Daniel Jones wrote:
> > Only had 1 other on the MRCG Net today.  It seems that the military tones
> > 1575/2425 are an issue for some out here.
> >
> > We will try again next week (OCT 22) on 170hz shift on (7086 LSB)  and
> > 850hz military (7087 USB) on the following weekend (Oct 29)
> >
> > Daniel
>
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From rmowery42 at charter.net  Sat Oct 15 16:04:39 2022
From: rmowery42 at charter.net (Ralph Mowery)
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 16:04:39 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] West Coast RATT/RTTY net
In-Reply-To: <CAB55hNdKfQeRn5dzKDZs7C-y2vi9xVDQiS34GuSb0Lr-+u6G1w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DBB383F5-A5DD-4849-9856-2E3CD8315C52@k6yic.com>	<322c8da7d2a87800c44c98ba26f37ae5.squirrel@hallikainen.org>
	<CAB55hNdKfQeRn5dzKDZs7C-y2vi9xVDQiS34GuSb0Lr-+u6G1w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001b01d8e0d1$5bf2dfe0$13d89fa0$@net>

 

If you are using a SSB  receiver I do not see why not.  Just any tones could be used as long as they are 850 Hz apart.  For transmitting the same.  However you want to use  tones above 1500 Hz so the SSB filter will help cut out the 2nd and above harmonics if any are present.

 

Ralph ku4pt

 

 

 

From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Nick England
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2022 2:33 PM
To: harold at w6iwi.org
Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] West Coast RATT/RTTY net

 

If I am transmitting military RATT on 7087 (USB, 2 khz tone. 850 shift, mark low) that means mark is 7088.575 and space is 7089.425

Can't you just tune your ham transceiver so that you are receiving and transmitting on those frequencies?.

If you are running 2125M/2975S tones, tune your transceiver to 7091.55 LSB and reverse M-S. Or tune your transceiver to 7086.45 USB and you don't have to reverse M-S.

 

Having typed the above I am sure I have transposed or miscalculated something, or missed the obvious fatal flaw.....

 

Nick England K4NYW
www.navy-radio.com

 

 

On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 1:07 PM Harold Hallikainen via GreenKeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

I'll try to make the 170 Hz shift net next week. Are the 1575/2425 Hz
tones standard for 850 Hz shift? I used 2125/2975 50 years ago, but I was
directly shifting a Viking Ranger and receiving with a National NC-300.
2975 Hz will definitely not make it through my SSB transceiver. I imagine
my Flesher TU-170 could be tuned to 1575/2425, but it would be a pain to
tune it back and forth. It is easy to make my DSP TU
(https://w6iwi.org/rtty/DspTU/ ) to use whatever tones are needed, but it
is not quite ready for prime time yet.

See you next week on 170 Hz shift.

Harold

On Sat, October 15, 2022 9:33 am, Daniel Jones wrote:
> Only had 1 other on the MRCG Net today.  It seems that the military tones
> 1575/2425 are an issue for some out here.
>
> We will try again next week (OCT 22) on 170hz shift on (7086 LSB)  and
> 850hz military (7087 USB) on the following weekend (Oct 29)
>
> Daniel

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From w9ddd at tapr.org  Mon Oct 17 12:25:29 2022
From: w9ddd at tapr.org (John, W9DDD)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 11:25:29 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] Modification for multi-copy paper
Message-ID: <073d34bc-5d58-c132-01f7-ec61481b51df@tapr.org>

Does anyone need part 153610? FTGH.? Unfortunately I don't have 153611.

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From jacobdouglastupper at gmail.com  Mon Oct 17 13:56:34 2022
From: jacobdouglastupper at gmail.com (GodOfCows)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 11:56:34 -0600
Subject: [GreenKeys] Has anyone a ASR33 Call Control Unit for sale?
Message-ID: <CACgVoFfrU4wpwqF=5_ZEYfcKaOoLWPknDZMofj2kH9+d1HHUdw@mail.gmail.com>

I have an ASR33 that I'm repairing but has a lot of work needed, it did not
fare well in shipping. I'd like to get all the mechanical problems
addressed first and the CCU for the 101c and the 101c itself is a bit much
for me. Also, I can't seem to find much info on the 101c at all. I've only
ever seen one or two listings on ebay for a CCU so I thought I'd give a go
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From navy.radio at gmail.com  Thu Oct 20 13:26:29 2022
From: navy.radio at gmail.com (Nick England)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 13:26:29 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] M15 + M14 on eBay - Maryland
Message-ID: <CAB55hNfXeYaLYDm8iQk6ZhSchxHrarr7j_LFpjzqMKmGcwnFMQ@mail.gmail.com>

Not mine, I know nothing more, but at least starting bids are a realistic
$9.99
Look down this list
https://www.ebay.com/sch/race1820/m.html

Nick
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From kwlueck at swbell.net  Thu Oct 20 16:16:25 2022
From: kwlueck at swbell.net (Keith Lueck)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 20:16:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [GreenKeys] OT: telephony museum
References: <1221190532.944003.1666296985386.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1221190532.944003.1666296985386@mail.yahoo.com>

I know some of the folks on this list are into telco stuff.? There are also some TTY's at ~4:00.? Enjoy!
Keith
At the Connections Museum: the insane telephone technology that led to today's computers


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From harold at w6iwi.org  Thu Oct 20 16:41:12 2022
From: harold at w6iwi.org (Harold Hallikainen)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 13:41:12 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] OT: telephony museum
In-Reply-To: <1221190532.944003.1666296985386@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1221190532.944003.1666296985386.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1221190532.944003.1666296985386@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7ede3a6dd6be3a1db65318e0ce00b327.squirrel@hallikainen.org>

Very good! They are part of the Telecom History Group. I volunteered for
them in Denver, including work on their Teletypes.

Harold
https://w6iwi.org


On Thu, October 20, 2022 1:16 pm, Keith Lueck wrote:
> I know some of the folks on this list are into telco stuff.?? There are
> also some TTY's at ~4:00.?? Enjoy!
> Keith
> At the Connections Museum: the insane telephone technology that led to
> today's computers
>
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>>>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool:
>>>> https://teletype.net/gksearch
>>>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive:
>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>>>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:
>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
>>>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool:
>>>> http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
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From til128 at juno.com  Sat Oct 22 08:41:56 2022
From: til128 at juno.com (til128 at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 12:41:56 GMT
Subject: [GreenKeys] ITTY 100
Message-ID: <20221022.084156.32612.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>

Hi all: We are having a minor glitch with ITTY 100. We are working on it and we should be up and running shortly. Tom Tillson
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From djones at k6yic.com  Sat Oct 22 10:14:44 2022
From: djones at k6yic.com (Daniel Jones)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 07:14:44 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Message test (no response)
Message-ID: <66C5C556-81C7-4CE9-B1B8-5A1DF4D186B9@k6yic.com>

I am testing to ensure my emails are working properly after a mail server failure.  No response necessary since if the reflector gets it all is well. 

Daniel 

www.K6YIC.com
DJones at K6YIC.com
HH#11973

From harold at w6iwi.org  Sat Oct 22 12:19:05 2022
From: harold at w6iwi.org (Harold Hallikainen)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 09:19:05 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] West Coast RATT/RTTY net
In-Reply-To: <DBB383F5-A5DD-4849-9856-2E3CD8315C52@k6yic.com>
References: <DBB383F5-A5DD-4849-9856-2E3CD8315C52@k6yic.com>
Message-ID: <fa31b49342b2fcb7eba867bd44accedf.squirrel@hallikainen.org>

Listening now on 7086 kHz LSB, 170 shift.

Harold

On Sat, October 15, 2022 9:33 am, Daniel Jones wrote:
> Only had 1 other on the MRCG Net today.  It seems that the military tones
> 1575/2425 are an issue for some out here.
>
> We will try again next week (OCT 22) on 170hz shift on (7086 LSB)  and
> 850hz military (7087 USB) on the following weekend (Oct 29)
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Daniel Jones <djones at k6yic.com>
>> Date: 10/14/22 5:52 PM (GMT-07:00)
>> To: Greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: [GreenKeys] West Coast RATT/RTTY net
>>
>> As a reminder???
>>
>> Clatternet @ 0900 Pacific.
>>
>> 7087kc USB 850hz shift 45.45 Baud.
>>
>> I will throw out some test messages starting at 0845.
>>
>> If there is QRP we will move up 2kc.
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> www.K6YIC.com
>> DJones at K6YIC.com
>> HH#11973
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> GreenKeys mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeys
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> Post: mailto:GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net
>>
>> >>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool:
>> https://teletype.net/gksearch
>> >>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive:
>> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>> >>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:
>> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
>> >>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool:
>> http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
>>
>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>> Message delivered to mmcauley at cox.net
>
> Daniel Jones (K6YIC)
> DJones at k6yic.com
> http://K6YIC.com
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>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
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>
>>>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool:
>>>> https://teletype.net/gksearch
>>>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive:
>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>>>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:
>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
>>>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool:
>>>> http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
>
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From djones at k6yic.com  Sat Oct 22 13:55:11 2022
From: djones at k6yic.com (Daniel Jones)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 10:55:11 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] RTTY
Message-ID: <5095DB30-992D-4B76-948C-B6602A8BB1D3@k6yic.com>

Late start at 0910

On and off copy.  I started off late on 170 and only picked up Tim N6CC.   Switched back to 850 and heard some others out there but on the wrong shift.  

Next week will be 850 and I will create a long RY tape to ensure everyone can tune up.  

Finished off the net with Tim.  Next week we will go again and see if we can get more people.  

Daniel

www.K6YIC.com
DJones at K6YIC.com
HH#11973

From harold at w6iwi.org  Sat Oct 22 15:12:33 2022
From: harold at w6iwi.org (Harold Hallikainen)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 12:12:33 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] RTTY
Message-ID: <94dcf17fccc3fd355cab48a653e8c3cb.squirrel@hallikainen.org>



Thanks! I was there from 0900 to 0930 MST (PDT) and did not hear anything.
I'll try next week. My DSP TU ( https://w6iwi.org/rtty/DspTU/ ) can now do
850 Hz shift.

Harold
https://w6iwi.org



On Sat, October 22, 2022 10:55 am, Daniel Jones wrote:
> Late start at 0910
>
> On and off copy.  I started off late on 170 and only picked up Tim N6CC.
Switched back to 850 and heard some others out there but on the wrong
shift.
>
> Next week will be 850 and I will create a long RY tape to ensure
everyone can tune up.
>
> Finished off the net with Tim.  Next week we will go again and see if we
can get more people.
>
> Daniel
>
> www.K6YIC.com
> DJones at K6YIC.com
> HH#11973
> ______________________________________________________________
> GreenKeys mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeys
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net
>
>>>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool:
>>>> https://teletype.net/gksearch
>>>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive:
>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>>>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:
>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
>>>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool:
>>>> http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
>
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to harold at w6iwi.org
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From harold at hallikainen.org  Sat Oct 22 15:10:32 2022
From: harold at hallikainen.org (Harold Hallikainen)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 12:10:32 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] RTTY
In-Reply-To: <5095DB30-992D-4B76-948C-B6602A8BB1D3@k6yic.com>
References: <5095DB30-992D-4B76-948C-B6602A8BB1D3@k6yic.com>
Message-ID: <6d611b5522b9ceb2e982814a2bacea71.squirrel@hallikainen.org>

Thanks! I was there from 0900 to 0930 MST (PDT) and did not hear anything.
I'll try next week. My DSP TU ( https://w6iwi.org/rtty/DspTU/ ) can now do
850 Hz shift.

Harold
https://w6iwi.org



On Sat, October 22, 2022 10:55 am, Daniel Jones wrote:
> Late start at 0910
>
> On and off copy.  I started off late on 170 and only picked up Tim N6CC.
> Switched back to 850 and heard some others out there but on the wrong
> shift.
>
> Next week will be 850 and I will create a long RY tape to ensure everyone
> can tune up.
>
> Finished off the net with Tim.  Next week we will go again and see if we
> can get more people.
>
> Daniel
>
> www.K6YIC.com
> DJones at K6YIC.com
> HH#11973
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From djones at k6yic.com  Sun Oct 23 14:41:12 2022
From: djones at k6yic.com (Daniel Jones)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 11:41:12 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] RTTY
In-Reply-To: <6d611b5522b9ceb2e982814a2bacea71.squirrel@hallikainen.org>
References: <6d611b5522b9ceb2e982814a2bacea71.squirrel@hallikainen.org>
Message-ID: <E09B489E-5892-48AF-8211-BC586ACEA55F@k6yic.com>

Because of my noise floor at my QTH I used the KFS SDR out of the Bay Area (I had another machine printing my transmission as heard from KFS to ensure I was transmitting clearly)  I transmitted from my QTH at 100 watts.  I am surprised that you could not hear me and I you.  Must have just been weird propagation.  

I have a mini Nick England setup going with a switch board that allows me to select what I use to receive and what I use to transmit.  

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www.K6YIC.com
DJones at K6YIC.com
HH#11973

> On Oct 22, 2022, at 21:45, Harold Hallikainen via GreenKeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Thanks! I was there from 0900 to 0930 MST (PDT) and did not hear anything.
> I'll try next week. My DSP TU ( https://w6iwi.org/rtty/DspTU/ ) can now do
> 850 Hz shift.
> 
> Harold
> https://w6iwi.org
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, October 22, 2022 10:55 am, Daniel Jones wrote:
>> Late start at 0910
>> 
>> On and off copy.  I started off late on 170 and only picked up Tim N6CC.
>> Switched back to 850 and heard some others out there but on the wrong
>> shift.
>> 
>> Next week will be 850 and I will create a long RY tape to ensure everyone
>> can tune up.
>> 
>> Finished off the net with Tim.  Next week we will go again and see if we
>> can get more people.
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
>> www.K6YIC.com
>> DJones at K6YIC.com
>> HH#11973
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From lawrenceg94 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 23 16:19:20 2022
From: lawrenceg94 at gmail.com (Lawrence Godek)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 13:19:20 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] TTY stuff FS
Message-ID: <c68fc9d8-1dc7-067a-ef5d-544bf5c7022f@Gmail.com>

I found some more tty parts.

Three sockets for the 255A relays

a 255A relay in gray case, no markings

157596 clutch with small plastic gear attached.? Hard to read last 3 
numbers on box but i think it's right

157505 Spacing clutch

150021 Codebar clutch

152465 Mod kit for electronic equipment MK-68/UG.? 19 pin plug for end 
of cable

192271-Brass plates tapped at each end.? No id.

162669 small metal pinion gear

4 ea fibre gears 151135.? Somewhere i have a chart showing what gears 
work with what speed, but where?

145A Filter by Western Electric.? Think that's the number i can red.? 
TTY on one side and A/C on other.? Small rectangular metal unit.? 5 
wires, two in and two out with apparently one Gnd

Additionally a 760 A green speakerfone unit.? Don't remember the hookup 
on it.? Two wires like for Tip-Ring but would need talk battery thru phone.

All the parts are, with the exception of the 255A relay and sockets are 
new in the package.

I know stuff is only worth what people are willing to pay for it but no 
idea what this stuff is worth.

Larry W0OGH



From w9ddd at tapr.org  Sun Oct 23 17:27:16 2022
From: w9ddd at tapr.org (John W9DDD)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 16:27:16 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] TTY stuff FS
In-Reply-To: <c68fc9d8-1dc7-067a-ef5d-544bf5c7022f@Gmail.com>
References: <c68fc9d8-1dc7-067a-ef5d-544bf5c7022f@Gmail.com>
Message-ID: <83E416DA-011D-4681-B56F-E308EA7B56CD@tapr.org>

The 151135 84T fiber gear is 100wpm for 28 keyboard.

John, W9DDD


> On Oct 23, 2022, at 3:19 PM, Lawrence Godek <lawrenceg94 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I found some more tty parts.
> 
> Three sockets for the 255A relays
> 
> a 255A relay in gray case, no markings
> 
> 157596 clutch with small plastic gear attached.  Hard to read last 3 numbers on box but i think it's right
> 
> 157505 Spacing clutch
> 
> 150021 Codebar clutch
> 
> 152465 Mod kit for electronic equipment MK-68/UG.  19 pin plug for end of cable
> 
> 192271-Brass plates tapped at each end.  No id.
> 
> 162669 small metal pinion gear
> 
> 4 ea fibre gears 151135.  Somewhere i have a chart showing what gears work with what speed, but where?
> 
> 145A Filter by Western Electric.  Think that's the number i can red.  TTY on one side and A/C on other.  Small rectangular metal unit.  5 wires, two in and two out with apparently one Gnd
> 
> Additionally a 760 A green speakerfone unit.  Don't remember the hookup on it.  Two wires like for Tip-Ring but would need talk battery thru phone.
> 
> All the parts are, with the exception of the 255A relay and sockets are new in the package.
> 
> I know stuff is only worth what people are willing to pay for it but no idea what this stuff is worth.
> 
> Larry W0OGH
> 
> 
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From mooreericnyc at gmail.com  Sun Oct 23 17:47:40 2022
From: mooreericnyc at gmail.com (Eric Moore)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 16:47:40 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] Model 33 Keyboard - Bit 4 stuck high
Message-ID: <CAE1er56bkQ2Za9bmMYn0fGkEZeLYWVzbGwQKWqfGAUSUnS2sJw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi greenkeyers! Bit 4 from my model 33s keyboard is stuck marking. H is
coming out X for instance.

I have attached an image of the keyboard encoding wires. Reading the docs,
these should encode the ascii bits pretty directly. Would someone please
help me understand which wires are bit 4, and where exactly they are making
contact to encode that?

Thank you!

-Eric
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From douglas-w-jones at uiowa.edu  Sun Oct 23 18:08:04 2022
From: douglas-w-jones at uiowa.edu (Jones, Douglas W)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 22:08:04 +0000
Subject: [GreenKeys] [External]  Model 33 Keyboard - Bit 4 stuck high
In-Reply-To: <CAE1er56bkQ2Za9bmMYn0fGkEZeLYWVzbGwQKWqfGAUSUnS2sJw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE1er56bkQ2Za9bmMYn0fGkEZeLYWVzbGwQKWqfGAUSUnS2sJw@mail.gmail.com>
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From:  Eric Moore [mooreericnyc at gmail.com] -- Sunday, October 23, 2022 4:47 PM

> I have attached an image of the keyboard encoding wires. 

Nothing obviously wrong in the photo, but remember, the signal from the keyboard encoder you photographed to the distributor segments is a parallel bundle of wires.  If one of those wires is broken or not connected to the distributor segment, that also could be a source of trouble.

One thing to test, does the paper-tape reader transmit correctly?  If it does, then it's more likely you have a problem in your keyboard encoder.

From mooreericnyc at gmail.com  Sun Oct 23 18:29:31 2022
From: mooreericnyc at gmail.com (Eric Moore)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 17:29:31 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] [External]  Model 33 Keyboard - Bit 4 stuck high
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I never fixed the paper tape reader power supply, as I have modern paper
tape readers.

I know the printer works correctly, but yeah could be distributor or
keyboard.

Do you know which wire is bit 4? So, are the wires normally marking and the
encoding wires make them space, or vice versa?

Thank you! Also, any updates on your attempts to make new paper tape?

-Eric


On Sun, Oct 23, 2022, 5:08 PM Jones, Douglas W <douglas-w-jones at uiowa.edu>
wrote:

> From:  Eric Moore [mooreericnyc at gmail.com] -- Sunday, October 23, 2022
> 4:47 PM
>
> > I have attached an image of the keyboard encoding wires.
>
> Nothing obviously wrong in the photo, but remember, the signal from the
> keyboard encoder you photographed to the distributor segments is a parallel
> bundle of wires.  If one of those wires is broken or not connected to the
> distributor segment, that also could be a source of trouble.
>
> One thing to test, does the paper-tape reader transmit correctly?  If it
> does, then it's more likely you have a problem in your keyboard encoder.
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From harold at w6iwi.org  Sun Oct 23 18:44:20 2022
From: harold at w6iwi.org (Harold Hallikainen)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 15:44:20 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] DSP Terminal Unit
Message-ID: <750fa73f4578bb823ac1d502e0747609.squirrel@hallikainen.org>

For anyone interested, the latest updates in my DSP terminal unit are at
https://w6iwi.org/rtty/DspTU/#221023 ,

Harold
https://w6iwi.org




From mooreericnyc at gmail.com  Sun Oct 23 20:28:04 2022
From: mooreericnyc at gmail.com (Eric Moore)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 19:28:04 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] ASR33 in Arizona
Message-ID: <CAE1er56h+Ff1W+p8imYcgtFx73GdTA5J5S04-aCkbZDbhFw0QQ@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.ebay.com/itm/295294892987


I am not the seller, no relation, etc....
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From nagle at animats.com  Sun Oct 23 19:37:30 2022
From: nagle at animats.com (John Nagle)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 16:37:30 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Railroad museum in Southern California wants a Model 15
	repaired.
Message-ID: <d219a147-1041-e188-6f9d-1ee3dd8d92b7@animats.com>

Got this message. Anyone in SoCal interested?

> On 10/23/22 16:31, Howard Amborn wrote:
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> We have a Teletype Model 15 that was donated to us at the San Luis 
>> Obispo Railroad Museum. The teletype is currently in the railroad 
>> communication section of our museum.  It powers up; however it is need 
>> of adjustment or repair.
>> 
>> Do you do that kind of work or know someone that has the ability to work 
>> on it.  Of course, we are willing to pay for any work that is done on 
>> the unit. We can transport it to a location in CA, OR, WA, and NV if 
>> necessary.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Howard Amborn
>> San Luis Obispo Railroad Museum Volunteer
>> 1.805.550.1618
>> hgamborn at hotmail.com

				John Nagle

From harold at w6iwi.org  Mon Oct 24 01:07:32 2022
From: harold at w6iwi.org (Harold Hallikainen)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 22:07:32 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Railroad museum in Southern California wants a
 Model 15 repaired.
In-Reply-To: <d219a147-1041-e188-6f9d-1ee3dd8d92b7@animats.com>
References: <d219a147-1041-e188-6f9d-1ee3dd8d92b7@animats.com>
Message-ID: <d8de110146cca05809bf37e886a93e43.squirrel@hallikainen.org>

I lived in SLO for about 45 years until about 5 years ago. I hope someone
more local than me can work on it. It MAY just need to be connected to a
loop.

Harold
https://w6iwi.org
Tucson AZ

On Sun, October 23, 2022 4:37 pm, John Nagle wrote:
> Got this message. Anyone in SoCal interested?
>
>> On 10/23/22 16:31, Howard Amborn wrote:
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> We have a Teletype Model 15 that was donated to us at the San Luis
>>> Obispo Railroad Museum. The teletype is currently in the railroad
>>> communication section of our museum.  It powers up; however it is need
>>> of adjustment or repair.
>>>
>>> Do you do that kind of work or know someone that has the ability to
>>> work
>>> on it.  Of course, we are willing to pay for any work that is done on
>>> the unit. We can transport it to a location in CA, OR, WA, and NV if
>>> necessary.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Howard Amborn
>>> San Luis Obispo Railroad Museum Volunteer
>>> 1.805.550.1618
>>> hgamborn at hotmail.com
>
> 				John Nagle
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>>>> https://teletype.net/gksearch
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>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>>>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:
>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
>>>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool:
>>>> http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
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From carcher at parkcity.net  Mon Oct 24 03:45:32 2022
From: carcher at parkcity.net (Clay Archer)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2022 01:45:32 -0600
Subject: [GreenKeys] Model 28 carriage hammer link problem...
Message-ID: <316c01d8e77c$98d841a0$ca88c4e0$@net>

Hello everyone,

 

I recently acquired a model 28 RO and after cleaning it up and appropriate
lubrication it's almost back in operation.    It goes through the motion of
printing, however the hammer is not striking the characters in the type box.
What seems to be happening is the Printing Arm Slide (p/n 150039) is coming
off of the Printing Track (p/n 150598).    I can replace the Slide grove
back onto the Track and it will print one character and then pop off the
track again.

 

The Arm (p/n 150068) that connects the Slide to the Carriage Assembly is not
bent and seems to hold the slide tightly onto the Track.   The Slide and
track doesn't seem to be worn out or damaged.    I can't find any reason for
this to be failing.    I have attached a photo of the slide sitting on top
of the track, out of the grove in the slide.

Has anyone on the list had this problem or know of a solution?

 

Thanks,

Clay Archer

KG7LWX



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From til128 at juno.com  Mon Oct 24 09:04:53 2022
From: til128 at juno.com (til128 at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2022 13:04:53 GMT
Subject: [GreenKeys] ITTY 100 update
Message-ID: <20221024.090453.993.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>

For those who use ITTY 100, it seems that there has occurred a major glitch that we are trying to rectify. We apologize for any interruption in service. Thank you for your patience and understanding. Tom and the gang at ITTY central. 
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From teletypeparts at comcast.net  Mon Oct 24 15:10:09 2022
From: teletypeparts at comcast.net (WAYNE)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2022 15:10:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [GreenKeys] [External] Model 33 Keyboard - Bit 4 stuck high
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From mooreericnyc at gmail.com  Mon Oct 24 16:44:06 2022
From: mooreericnyc at gmail.com (Eric Moore)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2022 15:44:06 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] [External] Model 33 Keyboard - Bit 4 stuck high
In-Reply-To: <1394012744.564826.1666638609980@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <CAE1er56bkQ2Za9bmMYn0fGkEZeLYWVzbGwQKWqfGAUSUnS2sJw@mail.gmail.com>
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Hey Wayne, this is the same 33 I have been working on. This issue showed up
after I turned it off for a few months and just turned it back on.

It is stuck marking.

-Eric


On Mon, Oct 24, 2022, 2:10 PM WAYNE <teletypeparts at comcast.net> wrote:

> Eric,
>
> Whatever you do dont take the kybd apart.  The trouble is likely dirty
> contact wire or the like.
>
> Did this problem suddenly show up or is it on a new 33 that you are
> working on?
>
> I have attached a pic of what I believe is contact wire #4.  It could be
> the next one to the right.  Both single contact wires.
> Zoom in.
>
> Answer the question and we can move on from there.
>
> 73,
>
> Wayne
> KB1FDW
>
>
>
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From til128 at juno.com  Tue Oct 25 08:42:43 2022
From: til128 at juno.com (til128 at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 12:42:43 GMT
Subject: [GreenKeys] ITTY Update 2
Message-ID: <20221025.084243.32349.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>

Hi all: For those that have not noticed ITTY 100 is back up and running. We thank you for your patience and understanding. Tom
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From mooreericnyc at gmail.com  Thu Oct 27 18:42:10 2022
From: mooreericnyc at gmail.com (Eric Moore)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 17:42:10 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] [External] Model 33 Keyboard - Bit 4 stuck high
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	<CAE1er55A-r=2xYfUy3jUze8QMZSKuJU0_7J0rh3fyT=9QwO_1w@mail.gmail.com>
	<1394012744.564826.1666638609980@connect.xfinity.com>
	<CAE1er54OdU8S_gOjNqrj3zuz42wdJX-Xy24Q=mQxpzm-JVpDEA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAE1er57JA_KA0L9dueHk0VajxOAX4OLY+C1+ykX2qNsYu9XwuQ@mail.gmail.com>

I disconnected the paper tape reader (connector #5) and the issue has been
resolved.

The switch on the reader appears to be damaged.

Thank you!

-Eric


On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 3:44 PM Eric Moore <mooreericnyc at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Wayne, this is the same 33 I have been working on. This issue showed
> up after I turned it off for a few months and just turned it back on.
>
> It is stuck marking.
>
> -Eric
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022, 2:10 PM WAYNE <teletypeparts at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Eric,
>>
>> Whatever you do dont take the kybd apart.  The trouble is likely dirty
>> contact wire or the like.
>>
>> Did this problem suddenly show up or is it on a new 33 that you are
>> working on?
>>
>> I have attached a pic of what I believe is contact wire #4.  It could be
>> the next one to the right.  Both single contact wires.
>> Zoom in.
>>
>> Answer the question and we can move on from there.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Wayne
>> KB1FDW
>>
>>
>>
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From djones at k6yic.com  Thu Oct 27 18:47:51 2022
From: djones at k6yic.com (Daniel Jones)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 15:47:51 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Flesher TU-300
Message-ID: <57046529-5BFC-46AE-B3C5-3D851DD57B4C@k6yic.com>

Anyone have the manual floating around for this model.  

Daniel

www.K6YIC.com
DJones at K6YIC.com
HH#11973

From go at wa7shi.us  Thu Oct 27 20:15:55 2022
From: go at wa7shi.us (Gary Oliver)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 17:15:55 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Looking for physical dimensions of PSP-1 (and PSP-1/2)
	supplies
Message-ID: <b9585cde-1b59-ffb0-1d14-56c8537849c4@wa7shi.us>

I'm in the process of building a PSP-1/2 (dual) loop supply for RTTY 
work.? I've sourced the major components (transformers, caps, tubes, 
sockets and choke) and am beginning the layout of the chassis.? The 
technical information and schematic has enough information to make my 
'knock off' *look* pretty close, but I don't have the actual dimensions 
of the circuit chassis. Examining the pictures of the manuals via web 
suggest it is about 8 x 3 on the front, but I don't know how deep.? It 
looks like a standard Bud 8x3x12 should work, although the originals 
might be steel rather than aluminum.

Does anyone have of one of the units they can measure?? If possible, a 
'top' and 'bottom' view of the device would be helpful.

Thanks.

-Gary

wa7shi



From hanyou at xsmail.com  Fri Oct 28 09:11:36 2022
From: hanyou at xsmail.com (Eric & Jia Bigham)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 08:11:36 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] O/T - Anyone in the Circleville, Ohio area?...
Message-ID: <8181F594-A314-4CC0-AB04-BA441F2EFE86@xsmail.com>


?for a pickup and eventual transfer to Nebraska (via cross country Xenia-ers or meet halfway)?

From djones at k6yic.com  Fri Oct 28 22:57:12 2022
From: djones at k6yic.com (Daniel Jones)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 19:57:12 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] MRCG West RTTY/RATT Saturday
Message-ID: <A176D3FB-F8D8-4166-B3A8-C1C9A8C04A85@k6yic.com>

I will be attempting another try at the net tomorrow.  I will probably start it around 0915 Pacific Time (I have an early morning softball game).  

7087kc 850hz shift (1575/2425 Tones) Mark Low.  

Daniel 

www.K6YIC.com
DJones at K6YIC.com
HH#11973

From djones at k6yic.com  Sat Oct 29 12:00:31 2022
From: djones at k6yic.com (Daniel Jones)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 09:00:31 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] West Coast RATT/RTTY
Message-ID: <706F52E2-E88E-4098-8A0C-98F2A2A33C73@k6yic.com>

My daughters softball game is in extra innings so I might be late to start the net at 9:15 Pacific.  If someone else can get it going I should be there no later then 09:30 Pacific.  

Daniel 

www.K6YIC.com
DJones at K6YIC.com
HH#11973

From djones at k6yic.com  Sat Oct 29 14:09:49 2022
From: djones at k6yic.com (Daniel Jones)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 11:09:49 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Cross Country Torn Tape Retransmission
Message-ID: <85C77C86-CB1C-4923-ADA8-56E9E242077F@k6yic.com>

So after the MRCG West RATT Net Nick England K4NYW, Tim N6CC and I did a cross-country torn tape transmission.

Nick listened in on an SDR over here on the west coast and I listened in to an SDR on the east coast.  

As Nick transmitted from his QTH I Punched his transmission onto tape and simultaneously ran it through a TD transmitting from my QTH here on the west coast.  He was able to participate locally through the retransmission.  

It was good fun and as we perfect the process should mean that more can participate on each coast.   

I identified an issue with my TD (The switch that stops the tape when its tight is not functioning) this caused me to have to jog the TD to not break the tape coming out of the reperf.

Daniel

From wcwuttke at gmail.com  Sat Oct 29 15:09:17 2022
From: wcwuttke at gmail.com (William Wuttke)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 12:09:17 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Cross Country Torn Tape Retransmission
In-Reply-To: <85C77C86-CB1C-4923-ADA8-56E9E242077F@k6yic.com>
References: <85C77C86-CB1C-4923-ADA8-56E9E242077F@k6yic.com>
Message-ID: <CADo5+=JYpZEwvW70heO8Casr_OaJFmz2NbEP=SeuWOrcT4yYVg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Daniel,

Great! I was all set up and ready to go this morning when the M28 let out
some smoke - lots of it!
Maybe next week with the M19.

BIll

On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 11:10 AM Daniel Jones <djones at k6yic.com> wrote:

> So after the MRCG West RATT Net Nick England K4NYW, Tim N6CC and I did a
> cross-country torn tape transmission.
>
> Nick listened in on an SDR over here on the west coast and I listened in
> to an SDR on the east coast.
>
> As Nick transmitted from his QTH I Punched his transmission onto tape and
> simultaneously ran it through a TD transmitting from my QTH here on the
> west coast.  He was able to participate locally through the
> retransmission.
>
> It was good fun and as we perfect the process should mean that more can
> participate on each coast.
>
> I identified an issue with my TD (The switch that stops the tape when its
> tight is not functioning) this caused me to have to jog the TD to not break
> the tape coming out of the reperf.
>
> Daniel
> ______________________________________________________________
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>
> >>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool:
> https://teletype.net/gksearch
> >>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive:
> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
> >>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:
> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
> >>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool:
> http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
>
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From harold at w6iwi.org  Sat Oct 29 15:22:43 2022
From: harold at w6iwi.org (Harold Hallikainen)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 12:22:43 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Cross Country Torn Tape Retransmission
In-Reply-To: <CADo5+=JYpZEwvW70heO8Casr_OaJFmz2NbEP=SeuWOrcT4yYVg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <85C77C86-CB1C-4923-ADA8-56E9E242077F@k6yic.com>
	<CADo5+=JYpZEwvW70heO8Casr_OaJFmz2NbEP=SeuWOrcT4yYVg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <12f70b418ff4b6890e05a91d95a4f3dc.squirrel@hallikainen.org>

I could barely hear the group this morning on my local receiver, but there
was a good signal on the KFS SDR. I set the shift variable in my DSP TU to
850 and recompiled, but it did not work. More debugging to do! I did
record the KFS signal, so I have something to work with.

By the way, I am about to run a short RTTY test tape on each HF band to
get a relative performance level of my antenna (
https://w6iwi.org/az/Vert30/ ) as reported by a closeby RBN receiver (
https://w6iwi.org/RbnGraph.php?rx=KO7SS&freq=14083.9&MyCall=W6IWI ). I'll
average these over a bunch of days, then do the same as I add radials to
the antenna to see how it improves.

Harold
https://w6iwi.org


On Sat, October 29, 2022 12:09 pm, William Wuttke wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
>
> Great! I was all set up and ready to go this morning when the M28 let out
> some smoke - lots of it!
> Maybe next week with the M19.
>
> BIll
>
> On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 11:10 AM Daniel Jones <djones at k6yic.com> wrote:
>
>> So after the MRCG West RATT Net Nick England K4NYW, Tim N6CC and I did a
>> cross-country torn tape transmission.
>>
>> Nick listened in on an SDR over here on the west coast and I listened in
>> to an SDR on the east coast.
>>
>> As Nick transmitted from his QTH I Punched his transmission onto tape
>> and
>> simultaneously ran it through a TD transmitting from my QTH here on the
>> west coast.  He was able to participate locally through the
>> retransmission.
>>
>> It was good fun and as we perfect the process should mean that more can
>> participate on each coast.
>>
>> I identified an issue with my TD (The switch that stops the tape when
>> its
>> tight is not functioning) this caused me to have to jog the TD to not
>> break
>> the tape coming out of the reperf.
>>
>> Daniel
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> GreenKeys mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeys
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> Post: mailto:GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net
>>
>> >>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool:
>> https://teletype.net/gksearch
>> >>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive:
>> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>> >>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:
>> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
>> >>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool:
>> http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
>>
>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>> Message delivered to wcwuttke at gmail.com
>>
> ______________________________________________________________
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>
>>>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool:
>>>> https://teletype.net/gksearch
>>>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive:
>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>>>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:
>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
>>>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool:
>>>> http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
>
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Not sent from an iPhone.

From tomhenryhunter at gmail.com  Sat Oct 29 20:49:09 2022
From: tomhenryhunter at gmail.com (Tom Hunter)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 20:49:09 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Flesher TU-300
Message-ID: <CAJK8692SLH4AP2BSjNXpvQ=0K4RzBR5EVbCfkrGtzLzsLwZYkQ@mail.gmail.com>

Daniel Jones is looking for a manual for a Flesher TU-300.

I read an article on in the the June 1983 QST. The description and the
rather fuzzy pictures Could be for a Heathkit
HD 3030. It may be possible that the Heathkit manual would help you. I
downloaded my manual on-line but I forget where. It was in three sections -
Manual, mods and schematic. Say the word and I will email it to you.

Tom   N3CRK

TTY News - http://n3crk.ddns.net:8000/tty

TTY Artwork - http://n3crk.ddns.net:8000/ttpix
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From djones at k6yic.com  Sat Oct 29 20:51:54 2022
From: djones at k6yic.com (Daniel Jones)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 17:51:54 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Flesher TU-300
In-Reply-To: <CAJK8692SLH4AP2BSjNXpvQ=0K4RzBR5EVbCfkrGtzLzsLwZYkQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJK8692SLH4AP2BSjNXpvQ=0K4RzBR5EVbCfkrGtzLzsLwZYkQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C7E82F0D-9E85-47A6-9CBB-38B595F2A390@k6yic.com>

Thanks Tom,

I will look into it and see how close they are.  

Daniel 

www.K6YIC.com
DJones at K6YIC.com
HH#11973

> On Oct 29, 2022, at 17:50, Tom Hunter <tomhenryhunter at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Daniel Jones is looking for a manual for a Flesher TU-300.
> 
> I read an article on in the the June 1983 QST. The description and the rather fuzzy pictures Could be for a Heathkit 
> HD 3030. It may be possible that the Heathkit manual would help you. I downloaded my manual on-line but I forget where. It was in three sections - Manual, mods and schematic. Say the word and I will email it to you.
> 
> Tom   N3CRK
> 
> TTY News - http://n3crk.ddns.net:8000/tty
> 
> TTY Artwork - http://n3crk.ddns.net:8000/ttpix
> ______________________________________________________________
> GreenKeys mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeys
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net
> 
>>>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool: https://teletype.net/gksearch
>>>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>>>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
>>>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool: http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
> 
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From js at teletype.net  Sun Oct 30 14:56:22 2022
From: js at teletype.net (Jordan Spencer Cunningham)
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 12:56:22 -0600
Subject: [GreenKeys] 2022 Halloween Broadcast
Message-ID: <fd6ef496-2634-4628-9273-c9d50ba8d431@app.fastmail.com>

Hi GK friends,

It's that time of year again for the annual Halloween Broadcast. I'm a bit late in sending this out, so hopefully other plans won't conflict with being able to run your machines for a bit on Halloween.

This year we're taking a slight detour from the tradition of a longer, single story sent as if from the main character with instead a few short spooky stories written by myself and another GreenKeys member, Tom Hunter. Also at the end will be one pix (no overstrike), something new created specially for this broadcast.

Since it's shorter than all previous broadcasts, I'll send it twice on Monday (tomorrow), October 31, according to the following schedule:

 * First run
   * 1:00 PM MST: Test messages including Halloween poems and songs every 15 minutes
   * 2:00 PM MST: Stories (will last roughly 30 minutes)
 * Second run
   * 5:00 PM MST: Test messages including Halloween poems and songs every 15 minutes (different than the first set if you're that into them and want to catch 'em all)
   * 6:00 PM MST: Stories (will last roughly 30 minutes)

The stream will be available at http://tty.nerdology.org:8000/halloween (right now this URL will result in a 404; you'll see that change around 15 minutes before the scheduled test messages). As before, simply use the same configuration you'd use for ITTY for this stream.

Enjoy, and happy Halloween!

-
Jordan Spencer Cunningham
teletype.net | GreenKeys Search Engine: teletype.net/gksearch
SMS via teletype: 385-308-4898 | Email via teletype: tty at nerdology.org
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From js at teletype.net  Mon Oct 31 15:00:11 2022
From: js at teletype.net (Jordan Spencer Cunningham)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 13:00:11 -0600
Subject: [GreenKeys] 2022 Halloween Broadcast
In-Reply-To: <fd6ef496-2634-4628-9273-c9d50ba8d431@app.fastmail.com>
References: <fd6ef496-2634-4628-9273-c9d50ba8d431@app.fastmail.com>
Message-ID: <623a960b-653e-4921-8d9b-ea9bd62ebdcf@app.fastmail.com>

Test messages for the first run begin shortly!

As a result of me trying to do far too much at once, please be aware of the following hiccups:
 * The broadcast, not including test messages, will actually be about two hours long (now with 400% more FREE!)
 * I thought I could support USOS (unshift on space) this time, but never mind-- best for those of you who have USOS mechanisms that can be enabled to disable them, but if not, you shouldn't see anything that'll materially mess up the broadcast anyway.
If you care about WHY, see the following; if you only care about how it affects you, TLDR above:
 * Turns out I WILDLY miscalculated the length of the broadcast by putting in one too many leading zeroes (good thing I'm not working for NASA or Tesla, huh?). I was thinking 30 minutes was much too short but didn't measure twice before I sent the email yesterday.
 * I've been wanting to support USOS for several years now. If I was retired and wasn't working for the bulk of most days, I probably would have worked it out by now, along with a lot of other magical teletypery. Without going into major detail, it's a matter of fixing an algorithm to properly calculate how long to keep transmitter running. Right now it tends to keep it open a bit longer than it needs to but within the realm of reason, but adding in extra, invisible shifts into the calculation either keeps it open MUCH too long or not long enough. I have some ideas to move away from the algorithm entirely and simply watch the stream for when there's no more text, but that's a project for future me. Yes, I know there's existing software that does all this efficiently, but part of the fun was rolling my own to see what I atrocities in bash I could come up with.
Very sorry for the haphazardness. If I could do teletypery for my full time occupation, I absolutely would.

-
Jordan Spencer Cunningham
teletype.net | GreenKeys Search Engine: teletype.net/gksearch
SMS via teletype: 385-308-4898 | Email via teletype: tty at nerdology.org

On Sun, Oct 30, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Jordan Spencer Cunningham wrote:
> Hi GK friends,
> 
> It's that time of year again for the annual Halloween Broadcast. I'm a bit late in sending this out, so hopefully other plans won't conflict with being able to run your machines for a bit on Halloween.
> 
> This year we're taking a slight detour from the tradition of a longer, single story sent as if from the main character with instead a few short spooky stories written by myself and another GreenKeys member, Tom Hunter. Also at the end will be one pix (no overstrike), something new created specially for this broadcast.
> 
> Since it's shorter than all previous broadcasts, I'll send it twice on Monday (tomorrow), October 31, according to the following schedule:
> 
>  * First run
>    * 1:00 PM MST: Test messages including Halloween poems and songs every 15 minutes
>    * 2:00 PM MST: Stories (will last roughly 30 minutes)
>  * Second run
>    * 5:00 PM MST: Test messages including Halloween poems and songs every 15 minutes (different than the first set if you're that into them and want to catch 'em all)
>    * 6:00 PM MST: Stories (will last roughly 30 minutes)
> 
> The stream will be available at http://tty.nerdology.org:8000/halloween (right now this URL will result in a 404; you'll see that change around 15 minutes before the scheduled test messages). As before, simply use the same configuration you'd use for ITTY for this stream.
> 
> Enjoy, and happy Halloween!
> 
> -
> Jordan Spencer Cunningham
> teletype.net | GreenKeys Search Engine: teletype.net/gksearch
> SMS via teletype: 385-308-4898 | Email via teletype: tty at nerdology.org
> 
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From w9ddd at tapr.org  Mon Oct 31 16:57:02 2022
From: w9ddd at tapr.org (John, W9DDD)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 15:57:02 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] 2022 Halloween Broadcast
In-Reply-To: <623a960b-653e-4921-8d9b-ea9bd62ebdcf@app.fastmail.com>
References: <fd6ef496-2634-4628-9273-c9d50ba8d431@app.fastmail.com>
	<623a960b-653e-4921-8d9b-ea9bd62ebdcf@app.fastmail.com>
Message-ID: <f8edfc8a-c5b4-3803-c7bd-c095f370b16b@tapr.org>

low (EU) tones?

---
----
You said "tomorrow" yesterday.

The above comments or recommendations are SWAG. Use at your own risk.
John, W9DDD

On 10/31/2022 2:00 PM, Jordan Spencer Cunningham wrote:
> Test messages for the first run begin shortly!
>
> As a result of me trying to do far too much at once, please be aware 
> of the following hiccups:
>
>   * The broadcast, not including test messages, will actually be about
>     two hours long (now with 400% more FREE!)
>   * I thought I could support USOS (unshift on space) this time, but
>     never mind-- best for those of you who have USOS mechanisms that
>     can be enabled to disable them, but if not, you shouldn't see
>     anything that'll materially mess up the broadcast anyway.
>
> If you care about WHY, see the following; if you only care about how 
> it affects you, TLDR above:
>
>   * Turns out I WILDLY miscalculated the length of the broadcast by
>     putting in one too many leading zeroes (good thing I'm not working
>     for NASA or Tesla, huh?). I was thinking 30 minutes was much too
>     short but didn't measure twice before I sent the email yesterday.
>   * I've been wanting to support USOS for several years now. If I was
>     retired and wasn't working for the bulk of most days, I probably
>     would have worked it out by now, along with a lot of other magical
>     teletypery. Without going into major detail, it's a matter of
>     fixing an algorithm to properly calculate how long to keep
>     transmitter running. Right now it tends to keep it open a bit
>     longer than it needs to but within the realm of reason, but adding
>     in extra, invisible shifts into the calculation either keeps it
>     open MUCH too long or not long enough. I have some ideas to move
>     away from the algorithm entirely and simply watch the stream for
>     when there's no more text, but that's a project for future me.
>     Yes, I know there's existing software that does all this
>     efficiently, but part of the fun was rolling my own to see what I
>     atrocities in bash I could come up with.
>
> Very sorry for the haphazardness. If I could do teletypery for my full 
> time occupation, I absolutely would.
>
> -
> Jordan Spencer Cunningham
> teletype.net <https://teletype.net>?| GreenKeys Search Engine: 
> teletype.net/gksearch <https://teletype.net/gksearch>
> SMS via teletype: 385-308-4898 | Email via teletype: tty at nerdology.org
>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Jordan Spencer Cunningham wrote:
>> Hi GK friends,
>>
>> It's that time of year again for the annual Halloween Broadcast. I'm 
>> a bit late in sending this out, so hopefully other plans won't 
>> conflict with being able to run your machines for a bit on Halloween.
>>
>> This year we're taking a slight detour from the tradition of a 
>> longer, single story sent as if from the main character with instead 
>> a few short spooky stories written by myself and another GreenKeys 
>> member, Tom Hunter. Also at the end will be one pix (no overstrike), 
>> something new created specially for this broadcast.
>>
>> Since it's shorter than all previous broadcasts, I'll send it twice 
>> on Monday (tomorrow), October 31, according to the following schedule:
>>
>>   * First run
>>       o 1:00 PM MST: Test messages including Halloween poems and
>>         songs every 15 minutes
>>       o 2:00 PM MST: Stories (will last roughly 30 minutes)
>>   * Second run
>>       o 5:00 PM MST: Test messages including Halloween poems and
>>         songs every 15 minutes (different than the first set if
>>         you're that into them and want to catch 'em all)
>>       o 6:00 PM MST: Stories (will last roughly 30 minutes)
>>
>>
>> The stream will be available at 
>> http://tty.nerdology.org:8000/halloween?(right now this URL will 
>> result in a 404; you'll see that change around 15 minutes before the 
>> scheduled test messages). As before, simply use the same 
>> configuration you'd use for ITTY for this stream.
>>
>> Enjoy, and happy Halloween!
>>
>> -
>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham
>> teletype.net <https://teletype.net>?| GreenKeys Search Engine: 
>> teletype.net/gksearch <https://teletype.net/gksearch>
>> SMS via teletype: 385-308-4898 | Email via teletype: tty at nerdology.org
>>
>
>
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From tomhenryhunter at gmail.com  Mon Oct 31 17:49:28 2022
From: tomhenryhunter at gmail.com (Tom Hunter)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 17:49:28 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Halloween Broadcast
Message-ID: <CAJK8693g5Cp4TkbJYThgv+Kw3P0+YX047q6hvnBEvW6ouj0eCQ@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone have any idea what tones Jordan Spencer Cunningham  is using?

He says to use the same setup as you would for ITTY but neither my Heathkit
HD 3030 nor my Flesher TU-170 will accept his tones and by ear it is
obvious that they are not 2125/2295.

Tom   N3CRK
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From js at teletype.net  Mon Oct 31 18:10:41 2022
From: js at teletype.net (Jordan Spencer Cunningham)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 16:10:41 -0600
Subject: [GreenKeys] Halloween Broadcast
In-Reply-To: <CAJK8693g5Cp4TkbJYThgv+Kw3P0+YX047q6hvnBEvW6ouj0eCQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJK8693g5Cp4TkbJYThgv+Kw3P0+YX047q6hvnBEvW6ouj0eCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a68471a1-4b2b-40bd-8a0c-5f1bd3cb5ab5@app.fastmail.com>

Oh, NOES!

Another artifact of having too much to do and not enough time to double-check everything. fldigi is what I use to generate tones (poor man's TU, I call my setup). I recall now having to remember to reset the tone frequency configuration whenever restarting the program. That was one step I spaced.

What a waste of a broadcast run! 

I'm fixing that to the proper tones now, so the second run will work fine. Drats.

-
Jordan Spencer Cunningham
teletype.net | GreenKeys Search Engine: teletype.net/gksearch
SMS via teletype: 385-308-4898 | Email via teletype: tty at nerdology.org

On Mon, Oct 31, 2022, at 3:49 PM, Tom Hunter wrote:
> Does anyone have any idea what tones Jordan Spencer Cunningham  is using?
> 
> He says to use the same setup as you would for ITTY but neither my Heathkit HD 3030 nor my Flesher TU-170 will accept his tones and by ear it is obvious that they are not 2125/2295.
> 
> Tom   N3CRK
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From digitalneoplasm at gmail.com  Mon Oct 31 19:17:42 2022
From: digitalneoplasm at gmail.com (Dan Schlegel)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 19:17:42 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] I bought a "Model 19" on eBay, and need some advice!
Message-ID: <CA+USrbaHPcf96mNaU64VtHP714-QsZeVEVWOqK8z+XvgRKpq=A@mail.gmail.com>

Good evening,

A week or so ago someone posted about some Model 14/15 stuff on eBay, and I
was lucky enough to win a few of the items. Of note was a "Model 19"...
Well, a Model 19 top with broken glass and what looks to me like a Model 15
underneath.

I just received the item and unfortunately it didn't do well. I was worried
as soon as I saw the box they used that said "Ultra-Light Bulky Stuff" on
the side. The keyboard surround was shattered and the keyboard itself was
all bent up. Except for the A key, all of the key tops survived, at least.
After some somewhat unpleasant back-and-forth with the seller, it seems my
shipping will be refunded, so I will have only paid $20 for the thing. But
now the question becomes: what do I do with it?

Is it possible to convert a Model 15 to a Model 19 by replacing the
keyboard base with that from a 19, and adding the perforator / counter? If
so, that sounds like a lot of fun. Then the question becomes: does anyone
have any of the parts I need? :). (If not, then I guess I have spare parts
for my 15, and a cover for a 19 I will hope to someday acquire!)

Happy Halloween :)

-Dan
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From jeffg at junknet.net  Mon Oct 31 19:32:34 2022
From: jeffg at junknet.net (Jeffrey Golas)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 19:32:34 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] I bought a "Model 19" on eBay, and need some advice!
In-Reply-To: <CA+USrbaHPcf96mNaU64VtHP714-QsZeVEVWOqK8z+XvgRKpq=A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+USrbaHPcf96mNaU64VtHP714-QsZeVEVWOqK8z+XvgRKpq=A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F7290B8-BC00-4752-9518-1450189FD691@junknet.net>

A model 19 is actually a model 15 with other stuff mounted on a table. If you just got the TTY itself, that is a 15.

If you look at the 19 curious marc restored, notice it has a table with it.

Jeff KC3GJX

> On Oct 31, 2022, at 7:18 PM, Dan Schlegel <digitalneoplasm at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Good evening, 
> 
> A week or so ago someone posted about some Model 14/15 stuff on eBay, and I was lucky enough to win a few of the items. Of note was a "Model 19"... Well, a Model 19 top with broken glass and what looks to me like a Model 15 underneath.
> 
> I just received the item and unfortunately it didn't do well. I was worried as soon as I saw the box they used that said "Ultra-Light Bulky Stuff" on the side. The keyboard surround was shattered and the keyboard itself was all bent up. Except for the A key, all of the key tops survived, at least. After some somewhat unpleasant back-and-forth with the seller, it seems my shipping will be refunded, so I will have only paid $20 for the thing. But now the question becomes: what do I do with it? 
> 
> Is it possible to convert a Model 15 to a Model 19 by replacing the keyboard base with that from a 19, and adding the perforator / counter? If so, that sounds like a lot of fun. Then the question becomes: does anyone have any of the parts I need? :). (If not, then I guess I have spare parts for my 15, and a cover for a 19 I will hope to someday acquire!)
> 
> Happy Halloween :) 
> 
> -Dan
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From wk6i.jeff at gmail.com  Mon Oct 31 19:47:04 2022
From: wk6i.jeff at gmail.com (Jeff Stai)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 16:47:04 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] help needed in Simi Valley (So Cal) area
Message-ID: <CAH0gZcbiNuBYyBqH5nO1tWQVFYPpwbABE_LNNRvXivjOTvB0WA@mail.gmail.com>

I was visiting a railroad museum here and they have a very old teletype
machine clacking away. I didn't get close to see it - herding grandkids -
but I chatted up one of the docents and she said it needs some work but
they have no one to do it.

If you are in the area and want to make someone's day, reply to me direct
and I'll send their contact info.

73 jeff wk6i

-- 
Jeff Stai ~ WK6I ~ wk6i.jeff at gmail.com
RTTY op at W7RN
Twisted Oak Winery ~ http://www.twistedoak.com/
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From digitalneoplasm at gmail.com  Mon Oct 31 19:50:54 2022
From: digitalneoplasm at gmail.com (Dan Schlegel)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 19:50:54 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] I bought a "Model 19" on eBay, and need some advice!
In-Reply-To: <4F7290B8-BC00-4752-9518-1450189FD691@junknet.net>
References: <CA+USrbaHPcf96mNaU64VtHP714-QsZeVEVWOqK8z+XvgRKpq=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F7290B8-BC00-4752-9518-1450189FD691@junknet.net>
Message-ID: <CA+USrbbHnm8T_C=VA2YEoDOePU2FZhDTYNmpjWEYmNOsm=4U2w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Jeff!,

Thanks!... That's what I was thinking too, but every picture of a Model 19
I can find has a somewhat different base - one with a solid bottom under
the keyboard - where the Model 15 doesn't. (I was referencing this video
heavily, since I don't have the table and neither do they:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0y-sN_Qwso)

Here's the link to what I bought: https://www.ebay.com/itm/175456296631, as
you can see it has the cover for a 19, but the tty itself has the open base
(which is now all broken up, sadly). And of course they are mismatched
anyway - the base says western union and the cover says AN/FGC-9. I don't
fully understand how the Model 19 perforator and counter connect to the
base, and if those facilities are available on the normal 15 base like this
one. I'll have to do some more digging through the documentation for some
pictures to try to understand it better :).

Take care,

-Dan

On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 7:32 PM Jeffrey Golas <jeffg at junknet.net> wrote:

> A model 19 is actually a model 15 with other stuff mounted on a table. If
> you just got the TTY itself, that is a 15.
>
> If you look at the 19 curious marc restored, notice it has a table with it.
>
> Jeff KC3GJX
>
> On Oct 31, 2022, at 7:18 PM, Dan Schlegel <digitalneoplasm at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> ?
> Good evening,
>
> A week or so ago someone posted about some Model 14/15 stuff on eBay, and
> I was lucky enough to win a few of the items. Of note was a "Model 19"...
> Well, a Model 19 top with broken glass and what looks to me like a Model 15
> underneath.
>
> I just received the item and unfortunately it didn't do well. I was
> worried as soon as I saw the box they used that said "Ultra-Light Bulky
> Stuff" on the side. The keyboard surround was shattered and the keyboard
> itself was all bent up. Except for the A key, all of the key tops survived,
> at least. After some somewhat unpleasant back-and-forth with the seller, it
> seems my shipping will be refunded, so I will have only paid $20 for the
> thing. But now the question becomes: what do I do with it?
>
> Is it possible to convert a Model 15 to a Model 19 by replacing the
> keyboard base with that from a 19, and adding the perforator / counter? If
> so, that sounds like a lot of fun. Then the question becomes: does anyone
> have any of the parts I need? :). (If not, then I guess I have spare parts
> for my 15, and a cover for a 19 I will hope to someday acquire!)
>
> Happy Halloween :)
>
> -Dan
> ______________________________________________________________
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> https://teletype.net/gksearch
>
> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive:
> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>
> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:
> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
>
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> http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
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From jeffg at junknet.net  Mon Oct 31 20:18:17 2022
From: jeffg at junknet.net (Jeffrey Golas)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 20:18:17 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] I bought a "Model 19" on eBay, and need some advice!
In-Reply-To: <CA+USrbbHnm8T_C=VA2YEoDOePU2FZhDTYNmpjWEYmNOsm=4U2w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+USrbbHnm8T_C=VA2YEoDOePU2FZhDTYNmpjWEYmNOsm=4U2w@mail.gmail.com>
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From rmowery42 at charter.net  Mon Oct 31 20:27:52 2022
From: rmowery42 at charter.net (Ralph Mowery)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 20:27:52 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] I bought a "Model 19" on eBay, and need some advice!
In-Reply-To: <CA+USrbbHnm8T_C=VA2YEoDOePU2FZhDTYNmpjWEYmNOsm=4U2w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+USrbaHPcf96mNaU64VtHP714-QsZeVEVWOqK8z+XvgRKpq=A@mail.gmail.com>	<4F7290B8-BC00-4752-9518-1450189FD691@junknet.net>
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Message-ID: <003a01d8ed88$c8267b90$587372b0$@net>

The printer part is the same.  The 19  keyboard contains the  keys that are mechanically linked to the punch and counter unit.  The punch will not punch an incoming  message.  You need a separate reperf unit for that.  

The case is for a 19, but the keyboard you have is for the 15.  Either keyboard can be used in the unit you have.  

 

Ralph ku4pt

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dan Schlegel
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2022 7:51 PM
To: Jeffrey Golas
Cc: Greenkeys
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] I bought a "Model 19" on eBay, and need some advice!

 

Hi Jeff!, 


Thanks!... That's what I was thinking too, but every picture of a Model 19 I can find has a somewhat different base - one with a solid bottom under the keyboard - where the Model 15 doesn't. (I was referencing this video heavily, since I don't have the table and neither do they: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0y-sN_Qwso) 

 

Here's the link to what I bought: https://www.ebay.com/itm/175456296631, as you can see it has the cover for a 19, but the tty itself has the open base (which is now all broken up, sadly). And of course they are mismatched anyway - the base says western union and the cover says AN/FGC-9. I don't fully understand how the Model 19 perforator and counter connect to the base, and if those facilities are available on the normal 15 base like this one. I'll have to do some more digging through the documentation for some pictures to try to understand it better :). 

 

Take care, 

 

-Dan

 

On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 7:32 PM Jeffrey Golas <jeffg at junknet.net> wrote:

A model 19 is actually a model 15 with other stuff mounted on a table. If you just got the TTY itself, that is a 15.

 

If you look at the 19 curious marc restored, notice it has a table with it.

 

Jeff KC3GJX





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