[GreenKeys] LPR 35 Slo Mo VideO

John, W9DDD w9ddd at tapr.org
Wed Feb 1 16:42:14 EST 2023 

What make it the most difficult is you have to go to some other page 
when the explanation includes some part name you don't remember to find 
out what it was.  When looking at the punch, how many of those names 
start with punch?   Remember the song Dry Bones?  The reset bail is 
connected to the reset bail lever which is connected to the reset lever 
roller which rides on the reset cam .....


On 2/1/2023 3:30 PM, Jeffrey Golas wrote:
> I was going to make a similar comment, Id love if someone had a 
> hieroglyphics guide to some of the nomenclature, particularly "bail".
>
> Jeff KC3GJX
>
>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 4:23 PM, Paul Heller <paul0926 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>  I always look at drawings and read descriptions like this and have 
>> absolutely zero understanding. I admire those of you who know this 
>> stuff. Bail, latch, slide … I must have played hookie when they 
>> explained those terms.
>>
>> Paul
>>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 2:12 PM, John, W9DDD <w9ddd at tapr.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> From page 27 of 573-118-700TC
>>>
>>> <odgfemeclpmfjonh.png>
>>>
>>> Best drawing I can find that shows connection between selector 
>>> mechanism and the punch slides.  I know this doesn't show the 
>>> slides.  The connect in where that arrow point above the left end of 
>>> the punch slide latch.
>>>
>>> The push lever goes to the left if the bit is marking.
>>>
>>> The punch slide latch then rotates counterclockwise dropping the 
>>> left side where the punch slide has been held, releasing the punch 
>>> slide to be pulled left by it's spring.
>>>
>>> <haljklipndojinfb.png>
>>>
>>> Here you can see the relationship between the latch and slide. Page 
>>> 30 showing how much the latch should clear the slide.
>>>
>>> <pgdinihipebpamfg.png>
>>>
>>> The part shown above the Toggle Bail Eccentric is the reset bail 
>>> discussed quite some time ago.  It is used to push the selected 
>>> punch slides back after the punching has taken place.  They should 
>>> then be 'caught' by the punch slide latch which by now would have 
>>> been return to their clockwise position.  Soon after the selector 
>>> starts a new character the reset bail is supposed to drop to be 
>>> ready for punch slides to be released by punch slide latches.
>>>
>>> The reset bail is a different part number when you have an automatic 
>>> tape feed out.  That implies to me that it somehow acts differently 
>>> during tape feed out.  If feeding blanks, I could see it staying up 
>>> and preventing the slides going left.  I really haven't digested 
>>> that part yet, and maybe it has nothing to do with the automatic 
>>> (letters | blanks) tape feed out.  Maybe the reset bail isn't 
>>> dropping far enough to allow selected punch slide to move left.  
>>> Going back to the clip from page 30 there's a clearance specified 
>>> between the right end of the punch slide and the left end of the 
>>> punch slide latch.
>>>
>>>
>>> You talked about swapping punch mechanisms between two units.  
>>> Remember the typing is in a different position between fully 
>>> perforated and chadless units.
>>>
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>>> You said "tomorrow" yesterday.
>>>
>>> The above comments or recommendations are SWAG. Use at your own risk.
>>> John, W9DDD
>>> On 1/31/2023 11:06 PM, John, W9DDD wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure, from what I was just reading in one of the navy manuals.
>>>>
>>>> "Near the end of each selecting
>>>> cycle, the transfer mechanism
>>>> moves the intelligence in the
>>>> form of a mechanical arrangement
>>>> from the punch slides to the
>>>> function box mechanism and to
>>>> the positioning mechanisms."
>>>>
>>>> The transfer mechanism is what is circled in red in the photo 
>>>> below.  From what I quoted above the punch slides get set directly 
>>>> from the selector.
>>>>
>>>> A non-typing reperforator doesn't even have those (transfer 
>>>> mechanism) parts.  I wonder if the non-typing reperf description is 
>>>> of any help, and if the tape feed out is even covered in that 
>>>> document.
>>>>
>>>> I keep thinking that something is either jammed or out of sequence 
>>>> in the blank tape feed out mechanism, but I'm still trying to 
>>>> digest the theory of operation of that feature.  I am finding the 
>>>> NAVELEX 0967-LP-616-7010 helpful because it seems to use the "dead 
>>>> horse" system of explanation.  As it explains something it seems to 
>>>> repeat information from the previous item that interacts with the 
>>>> topic ... less page turning back and forth.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Clipped a bunch since my mailer complains if the size gets too big, 
>>> which happens if too many images.
>>>
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