From lyokoboy0 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  1 00:31:50 2023
From: lyokoboy0 at gmail.com (devin davison)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 00:31:50 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] TRS 80 Model 100 RTTY ?
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I have used the 100 with a MFJ terminal node controller that has a rtty
option, and this worked well. I also have other dedicated hardware
controllers that have a serial pot, and connect directly to the radio for
the rtty signal.

--Devin D.



On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 3:35?PM kn7sfz <kn7sfz at gmail.com> wrote:

> The model 100 has a built-in terminal program which I used to good effect
> on packet back in the day.
>
> Richard kn7sfz
>
>
> On 9/30/2023 11:34 AM, Mark Foltarz via GreenKeys wrote:
>
> Anyone have a terminal program to use with the Radio Shack model 100 ?
>
> tnx
> de WA4AM
> Mark
>
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From jp at cs.unc.edu  Sun Oct  1 13:19:41 2023
From: jp at cs.unc.edu (John Poulton)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 13:19:41 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] NOS IBM Selectric correctable ribbon cartridges
Message-ID: <CAKtz7fchEvpsEeLUAfutPdzFu4sHpgwENy3x=Q9-gVrtCX6mWw@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone on the list a fan of the IBM Selectric II typewriter?  If so, I have
a box of 6 NOS of correctable film ribbons, made by Lift-Off Corp, which
was located not far away in Hickory NC..

If these could be useful to you, let me know and I'll send 'em to you
gratis!

73, John K4OZY
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From jp at cs.unc.edu  Sun Oct  1 13:52:01 2023
From: jp at cs.unc.edu (John Poulton)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 13:52:01 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] NOS IBM Selectric correctable ribbon cartridges
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The ribbons are spoken for.. sorry I didn't have more!  Who knew there were
that many Selectrics out there?!

73, John

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 1:50?PM Paul Heller <paul0926 at comcast.net> wrote:

> I am!
> I?d be happy to take them.
>
> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg]
> Paul
> W2TTY
>
> ITTY: HTTP://INTERNET-TTY.NET:8000/ITTY
> <http://internet-tty.net:8000/ITTY>
> ITTY100: HTTP://INTERNET-TTY.NET:8010/ITTY100
> <http://internet-tty.net:8040/EUROPE>
> AUTOSTART: HTTP://INTERNET-TTY.NET:8030/AUTOSTART
> <http://internet-tty.net:8030/AUTOSTART>
> EUROPE: HTTP://INTERNET-TTY.NET:8040/EUROPE
> <http://internet-tty.net:8040/EUROPE>
>
> On Oct 1, 2023, at 11:21?AM, John Poulton <jp at cs.unc.edu> wrote:
>
> ?
> Anyone on the list a fan of the IBM Selectric II typewriter?  If so, I
> have a box of 6 NOS of correctable film ribbons, made by Lift-Off Corp,
> which was located not far away in Hickory NC..
>
> If these could be useful to you, let me know and I'll send 'em to you
> gratis!
>
> 73, John K4OZY
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From duncanancy at earthlink.net  Sun Oct  1 21:23:49 2023
From: duncanancy at earthlink.net (Duncan Brown)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 21:23:49 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Western union telegram printer
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References: <E2B6BE2A-0B19-40ED-92DC-004D087FA673@junknet.net>
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The unit that printed WU messages on a narrow strip of gummed paper from 
1926 to c1960 was the Western Union Model 2B (WU's model number), which 
was first manufactured by the Morkrum-Kleinschmidt Corp. (after 1928, 
known as the Teletype Corp.).? With the addition of punching ability, it 
became the Teletype Corp. M14.





Both the tape printer version and the reperforator version of the M14 
were produced by Teletype Corp at the same time.? "Model 14" was a Bell 
designation. Teletype Corp. used a letter combination for model 
designation ( M14 = "Fxx"; M28 = "Lxx"; etc).? I don't know offhand what 
the different designators were for the M14 tape printer and reperf.

The M14 tape printers were also used by Bell TWX operators to 
communicate with TWX subscribers. The tape printer was much cheaper and 
more compact than a M15.


Have fun,

Duncan
K2OEQ

On 30-Sep-23 23:39, Jeffrey Golas wrote:
> Just curious, what printed the text that would go into a western union telegram? Obviously it was printed on tape, but that wasnt on a Teletype, right? Even the tape models like the 14 punch as well.
>
> Jeff
> ______________________________________________________________
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From tomhenryhunter at gmail.com  Sun Oct  1 21:50:55 2023
From: tomhenryhunter at gmail.com (Tom Hunter)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 21:50:55 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Strip Printer
Message-ID: <CAJK8691opaFjtiT-J0S4WYcprhkns9HwjonDhbDZES8ZF6Xm8Q@mail.gmail.com>

Back in the 70's I knew that machine as a strip printer. It printed on a
narrow tape (maybe 3/8 inch) that might be gummed to paste on a telegram
form.


Tom   N3CRK
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From jeffg at junknet.net  Sun Oct  1 22:34:10 2023
From: jeffg at junknet.net (Jeffrey Golas)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 22:34:10 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Western union telegram printer
Message-ID: <28ADEA39-1147-49BC-98B9-DBC9AB271066@junknet.net>

Cool, so...technically...if one could disable the punching of a 14, and feed it skinnier tape, that would replicate the WU printing (although figures/numbers wouldnt work).

Makes you wonder why they never just put the stock into a page printer, but the later variety of designs and themes I guess played into that.

The 14 I have seems to use the standard 5-bit size tape, Ill have to double check that though. (I actually have..3 14s now, but the collection I acquired earlier this year included a fully working 14).

My one struggle with it is the printing quality; I think I figured out how to set up the ribbon but it was fairly washed out, the newer/modern ribbons are probably too dry for it. I set it up another way which worked much better but left smears on the tape.


Jeff

> On Oct 1, 2023, at 9:24 PM, Duncan Brown <duncanancy at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> ? The unit that printed WU messages on a narrow strip of gummed paper from 1926 to c1960 was the Western Union Model 2B (WU's model number), which was first manufactured by the Morkrum-Kleinschmidt Corp. (after 1928, known as the Teletype Corp.).  With the addition of punching ability, it became the Teletype Corp. M14.
> 
> 
> <WU gumdesk.jpg>
> 
> 
> 
> Both the tape printer version and the reperforator version of the M14 were produced by Teletype Corp at the same time.  "Model 14" was a Bell designation. Teletype Corp. used a letter combination for model designation ( M14 = "Fxx"; M28 = "Lxx"; etc).  I don't know offhand what the different designators were for the M14 tape printer and reperf.
> 
> The M14 tape printers were also used by Bell TWX operators to communicate with TWX subscribers. The tape printer was much cheaper and more compact than a M15.
> 
> 
> Have fun,
> 
> Duncan
> K2OEQ
> 
>> On 30-Sep-23 23:39, Jeffrey Golas wrote:
>> Just curious, what printed the text that would go into a western union telegram? Obviously it was printed on tape, but that wasnt on a Teletype, right? Even the tape models like the 14 punch as well.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> 
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From wa3frp at gmail.com  Sun Oct  1 22:51:04 2023
From: wa3frp at gmail.com (Russ Miller)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 22:51:04 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Western union telegram printer
In-Reply-To: <28ADEA39-1147-49BC-98B9-DBC9AB271066@junknet.net>
References: <28ADEA39-1147-49BC-98B9-DBC9AB271066@junknet.net>
Message-ID: <DEB9247D-8020-44D0-BE02-7CA580AE2991@gmail.com>

I knew this as a Western Union 2B strip printer.  I?m a bit surprised that they are not better know. Each branch office had at least one. The reperf center on the second floor of the main office in Philadelphia was loaded with them. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2023, at 10:34 PM, Jeffrey Golas <jeffg at junknet.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Cool, so...technically...if one could disable the punching of a 14, and feed it skinnier tape, that would replicate the WU printing (although figures/numbers wouldnt work).
> 
> Makes you wonder why they never just put the stock into a page printer, but the later variety of designs and themes I guess played into that.
> 
> The 14 I have seems to use the standard 5-bit size tape, Ill have to double check that though. (I actually have..3 14s now, but the collection I acquired earlier this year included a fully working 14).
> 
> My one struggle with it is the printing quality; I think I figured out how to set up the ribbon but it was fairly washed out, the newer/modern ribbons are probably too dry for it. I set it up another way which worked much better but left smears on the tape.
> 
> 
> Jeff
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2023, at 9:24 PM, Duncan Brown <duncanancy at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ? The unit that printed WU messages on a narrow strip of gummed paper from 1926 to c1960 was the Western Union Model 2B (WU's model number), which was first manufactured by the Morkrum-Kleinschmidt Corp. (after 1928, known as the Teletype Corp.).  With the addition of punching ability, it became the Teletype Corp. M14.
>> 
>> 
>> <WU gumdesk.jpg>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Both the tape printer version and the reperforator version of the M14 were produced by Teletype Corp at the same time.  "Model 14" was a Bell designation. Teletype Corp. used a letter combination for model designation ( M14 = "Fxx"; M28 = "Lxx"; etc).  I don't know offhand what the different designators were for the M14 tape printer and reperf.
>> 
>> The M14 tape printers were also used by Bell TWX operators to communicate with TWX subscribers. The tape printer was much cheaper and more compact than a M15.
>> 
>> 
>> Have fun,
>> 
>> Duncan
>> K2OEQ
>> 
>>>> On 30-Sep-23 23:39, Jeffrey Golas wrote:
>>> Just curious, what printed the text that would go into a western union telegram? Obviously it was printed on tape, but that wasnt on a Teletype, right? Even the tape models like the 14 punch as well.
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> 
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From navy.radio at gmail.com  Mon Oct  2 08:40:13 2023
From: navy.radio at gmail.com (Nick England)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 08:40:13 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Dovetron board schematic with LED display
Message-ID: <CAB55hNdwMfD8LfZxYXUx6i=VsmAa1cCN4_7=CqzyS6gwFx5KRA@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone have a Dovetron MPC-1000 board schematic and assembly drawing
that shows the LED cross display installed?
I have the board schematic with CRT and I have the SSD-100 LED display
schematic, but not one all together...
https://www.navy-radio.com/rtty/dovetron.htm

Nick England K4NYW
www.navy-radio.com
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From Duncanancy at earthlink.net  Mon Oct  2 09:09:36 2023
From: Duncanancy at earthlink.net (Duncanancy)
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2023 09:09:36 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Western union telegram printer
In-Reply-To: <28ADEA39-1147-49BC-98B9-DBC9AB271066@junknet.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.47.1696252198.25499.greenkeys@mailman.qth.net>

Jeffery,Actually, WU did use page printers originally, but if they had to repeat part of a message due to glitches on the line, they had to repeat the whole message.With the strip printer, they could just repeat the missed part of the message, and then "cut and paste" the correction. Also, with the strip printer, the did not have to "waste" time sending CR and LF.WU had Morkrm and Kleinschmidt Electric modify some of their page printers into strip printers by removing the platen and turning the machine onto its back. c1920Have funDuncan?Sent from my Kleinschmidt TT-4/TG, the US Army's first portable digital communications device, 1950-1980
-------- Original message --------From: Jeffrey Golas <jeffg at junknet.net> Date: 10/1/23  22:34  (GMT-05:00) To: Duncan Brown <duncanancy at earthlink.net> Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Western union telegram printer Cool, so...technically...if one could disable the punching of a 14, and feed it skinnier tape, that would replicate the WU printing (although figures/numbers wouldnt work).Makes you wonder why they never just put the stock into a page printer, but the later variety of designs and themes I guess played into that.The 14 I have seems to use the standard 5-bit size tape, Ill have to double check that though. (I actually have..3 14s now, but the collection I acquired earlier this year included a fully working 14).My one struggle with it is the printing quality; I think I figured out how to set up the ribbon but it was fairly washed out, the newer/modern ribbons are probably too dry for it. I set it up another way which worked much better but left smears on the tape.Jeff> On Oct 1, 2023, at 9:24 PM, Duncan Brown <duncanancy at earthlink.net> wrote:> > ? The unit that printed WU messages on a narrow strip of gummed paper from 1926 to c1960 was the Western Union Model 2B (WU's model number), which was first manufactured by the Morkrum-Kleinschmidt Corp. (after 1928, known as the Teletype Corp.).? With the addition of punching ability, it became the Teletype Corp. M14.> > > <WU gumdesk.jpg>> > > > Both the tape printer version and the reperforator version of the M14 were produced by Teletype Corp at the same time.? "Model 14" was a Bell designation. Teletype Corp. used a letter combination for model designation ( M14 = "Fxx"; M28 = "Lxx"; etc).? I don't know offhand what the different designators were for the M14 tape printer and reperf.> > The M14 tape printers were also used by Bell TWX operators to communicate with TWX subscribers. The tape printer was much cheaper and more compact than a M15.> > > Have fun,> > Duncan> K2OEQ> >> On 30-Sep-23 23:39, Jeffrey Golas wrote:>> Just curious, what printed the text that would go into a western union telegram? Obviously it was printed on tape, but that wasnt on a Teletype, right? Even the tape models like the 14 punch as well.>> >> Jeff>> ______________________________________________________________>> > ______________________________________________________________> GreenKeys mailing list> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeys> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> Post: mailto:GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net> >>>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool: https://teletype.net/gksearch>>>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/>>>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html>>>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool: http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> Message delivered to jeffg at junknet.net
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From harold at w6iwi.org  Mon Oct  2 13:50:33 2023
From: harold at w6iwi.org (Harold Hallikainen)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 10:50:33 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Dovetron board schematic with LED display
In-Reply-To: <CAB55hNdwMfD8LfZxYXUx6i=VsmAa1cCN4_7=CqzyS6gwFx5KRA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAB55hNdwMfD8LfZxYXUx6i=VsmAa1cCN4_7=CqzyS6gwFx5KRA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20fd98ad43c97bb1423dc218b4f99079.squirrel@hallikainen.org>



On Mon, October 2, 2023 5:40 am, Nick England wrote:
> Does anyone have a Dovetron MPC-1000 board schematic and assembly drawing
> that shows the LED cross display installed?
> I have the board schematic with CRT and I have the SSD-100 LED display
> schematic, but not one all together...
> https://www.navy-radio.com/rtty/dovetron.htm
>
> Nick England K4NYW
> www.navy-radio.com

Not quite what you're asking for, but
https://w6iwi.org/rtty/Dovetron.pdf#page=3 describes the operation and
installation of the SSD-100.

Harold
https://w6iwi.org


From jhhaynes at earthlink.net  Mon Oct  2 22:37:57 2023
From: jhhaynes at earthlink.net (Jim Haynes)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 21:37:57 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [GreenKeys] Western union telegram printer
In-Reply-To: <20231002131004.4783B149AFB0@mail.qsl.net>
References: <20231002131004.4783B149AFB0@mail.qsl.net>
Message-ID: <7996793-577-de62-13a1-d16e60bb2132@earthlink.net>

Also the gummed-tape printers allowed pasting the telegrams on to
printed forms containing all the fine print about the service and
the company.  Whereas with page printers it would be necessary
either to have a form-feed mechanism to begin each message on the
proper spot on the preprinted forms, or to not use the forms.
Instead there was page print paper with the W.U. logo printed along
one edge.

If you look at the Western Union Technical Review (online) you can
read about page-to-tape and tape-to-page converter circuits to be
used when one kind of machine had to talk to the other kind.

One big advantage of page machines is when the copy is lenghty, such as
wire service news.  There it would be a lot of work to gum down all the
tape when there were thousands of words per day.  Another advantage of
page machines is when the customer wants to receive on multiple copy
forms.  In the days before good and inexpensive copy machines it was
a real pain if the customer needed multiple copies.

I don't know authoritatively about the Teletype Corp. equipment codes,
but it's been suggested that the Model 14 line began with F for 
"fourteen".  thus the typing unit is FP, the typing reperforator is
FPR, and on to that wonderful machine the FRXD.  The tape transmitter
distributor was simply XD though considered part of the Model 14 product
line.  I guess that's because XD could be used with the GPE perforator
to make a sending station that had nothing to do with Model 14.  GPE
is allegedly "green code perforator" where "green" code was the version
of Baudot used by Western Union which had green as a corporate color.
There was a "blue code" machine for Postal Teleegraph whose corporate
color was blue.  I've heard that blue code was upper/lower case.

 	---

 	"Ya can argue all ya wanna, but it's dif'rent than it was."
 	"No it ain't! No it ain't!  But ya gotta know the territory."
 		Meredith Willson, The Music Man

From ad7i at ad7i.net  Tue Oct  3 11:52:05 2023
From: ad7i at ad7i.net (ad7i)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 11:52:05 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] autostart test
Message-ID: <CANpP5D6p_+NykqYyfCo2AuFuH02J13u6z9Vz3-g0K0qyRe+7Rg@mail.gmail.com>

Autostart test: The quick brown fox....

Please forgive the printer noise.

73, Paul, ad7i
NNJ
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From depotter4707 at gmail.com  Tue Oct  3 16:04:05 2023
From: depotter4707 at gmail.com (David Potter)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 15:04:05 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] TEST MESSAGE
Message-ID: <CAF_SoXnr3TaymvOYu0HhXf5q6Lqm80GPA9E5f2ms+5BDq97DLg@mail.gmail.com>

THIS IS A TEST MESSAGE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW THIS OFF AT THE HIGH SCHOOL SOON.
DAVID

73'S
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From cdlale63 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  4 21:06:57 2023
From: cdlale63 at yahoo.com (Cecil Lale)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2023 01:06:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [GreenKeys] WTB UGC 129
References: <591632984.7055266.1696468017935.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <591632984.7055266.1696468017935@mail.yahoo.com>

I am still looking for the A2 PHD I/O board and A9 Ram TG board,or a complete working 129.thanksCecil LaleKF6ZOKcdlale63 at yahoo.com
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From jim at videoterm.com  Wed Oct  4 15:14:53 2023
From: jim at videoterm.com (Jim Taylor)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 14:14:53 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] Perforator Tape available in South Central WI
Message-ID: <a571ea4a-46a9-4e00-87c2-3d00dfe343a6@videoterm.com>

 From an estate, I have a fair quantity of 5-level perforator tape that 
needs a new home.? I also have several rolls of 1/4" printing tape.

I would prefer if there's someone local that would come and pick them up.

I just don't want to donate them to the recycle bin.

Thanks es 73,

Jim, K9JT

From harold at w6iwi.org  Thu Oct  5 01:06:04 2023
From: harold at w6iwi.org (Harold Hallikainen)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 22:06:04 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Perforator Tape available in South Central WI
In-Reply-To: <a571ea4a-46a9-4e00-87c2-3d00dfe343a6@videoterm.com>
References: <a571ea4a-46a9-4e00-87c2-3d00dfe343a6@videoterm.com>
Message-ID: <e615f5a9b647904813a0e3ede652f4d1.squirrel@hallikainen.org>



On Wed, October 4, 2023 12:14 pm, Jim Taylor wrote:
>  From an estate, I have a fair quantity of 5-level perforator tape that
> needs a new home.?? I also have several rolls of 1/4" printing tape.
>
> I would prefer if there's someone local that would come and pick them up.
>
> I just don't want to donate them to the recycle bin.
>
> Thanks es 73,
>
> Jim, K9JT

I hope someone local claims it. But, if not, I'd pay to ship the
perforator tape to me. I have one box, and I don't punch that much tape,
but I'd like to save it from the dumpster.

Harold
https://w6iwi.org


From bobp at mktx.com  Thu Oct  5 16:31:39 2023
From: bobp at mktx.com (Bob Patterson)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2023 13:31:39 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] KSR-33 buzzing
Message-ID: <465bb654-fecd-4fc5-9e0e-74ce3678ad70@mktx.com>

Hi,

Here's a good one for you...

My KSR-33 started making buzzing noise, emanating from the left rear of 
the machine, with the power switch turned _off_.? It is also typing 
randomly with the power switch turned to Local. But, the printer appears 
to be typing normally under computer control with the power switch 
turned to Line.

Does anyone have an idea what's wrong?

I'm not really able to identify exactly which gadget the buzzing is 
coming from, but it's not the motor. It seems to be coming from the left 
end of the shaft that the motor drives.

Thanks very much for any help you can provide.

Bob Patterson
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From teletypeparts at comcast.net  Thu Oct  5 17:42:28 2023
From: teletypeparts at comcast.net (WAYNE)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2023 17:42:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [GreenKeys] KSR-33 buzzing
In-Reply-To: <465bb654-fecd-4fc5-9e0e-74ce3678ad70@mktx.com>
References: <465bb654-fecd-4fc5-9e0e-74ce3678ad70@mktx.com>
Message-ID: <1065980646.120105.1696542148163@connect.xfinity.com>

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From bobp at mktx.com  Thu Oct  5 19:02:57 2023
From: bobp at mktx.com (Bob Patterson)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2023 16:02:57 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] KSR-33 buzzing
In-Reply-To: <1065980646.120105.1696542148163@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <465bb654-fecd-4fc5-9e0e-74ce3678ad70@mktx.com>
	<1065980646.120105.1696542148163@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <17364c56-bb17-402a-81fd-d5b07f42abd0@mktx.com>

Thanks, Wayne!? I'll swap out the part and see if it also fixes the 
chattering on Local.

Bob

On 10/5/2023 2:42 PM, WAYNE wrote:
> Bob,
> If it buzzes when first plugging in to AC, its the small electrolytic? 
> capacitor in the UCC-6.? The one closest to the front.? See pics.
> Mouser has them.
> 73,
> Wayne
> KB1FDW
>> On 10/05/2023 4:31 PM EDT Bob Patterson <bobp at mktx.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here's a good one for you...
>>
>> My KSR-33 started making buzzing noise, emanating from the left rear 
>> of the machine, with the power switch turned _off_. It is also typing 
>> randomly with the power switch turned to Local.? But, the printer 
>> appears to be typing normally under computer control with the power 
>> switch turned to Line.
>>
>> Does anyone have an idea what's wrong?
>>
>> I'm not really able to identify exactly which gadget the buzzing is 
>> coming from, but it's not the motor. It seems to be coming from the 
>> left end of the shaft that the motor drives.
>>
>> Thanks very much for any help you can provide.
>>
>> Bob Patterson
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> GreenKeys mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeys
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> Post: mailto:GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net
>>
>> >>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool: 
>> https://teletype.net/gksearch
>> >>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive: 
>> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>> >>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive: 
>> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
>> >>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool: 
>> http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
>>
>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
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From erik at bruchez.org  Thu Oct  5 20:14:41 2023
From: erik at bruchez.org (Erik Bruchez)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2023 17:14:41 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] 1969 edition of Bulletin 310 B (for Model 33) on
	archive.org
In-Reply-To: <CAAc0PEX4xfx4nAGxpP5T_wQ7Q=tSXWf=tcC0RS75Vpougd3HZQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAc0PEUgoqAKQOP5XwDwdM1a0Y-aY9+GLTebETBQntTApLDCFw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN7CX7K3268kHT00OHTBkdnfPEQSoNuQz67sV6tPtXf=X8gMfg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAB55hNeR2RfSp=y3-SOQ=foKCzo2GgMK20Bjt5efyYTPQMM7HA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAc0PEX4xfx4nAGxpP5T_wQ7Q=tSXWf=tcC0RS75Vpougd3HZQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAc0PEVdk2Z=5gi725MCRE9vFPh83Vtb4mz4YUTynk-wm_Kjxw@mail.gmail.com>

All,

I have now also added the parts bulletin:

Bulletin 1184 B 33 Page Printer Set (ASR, KSR And RO) Parts
https://archive.org/details/teletype-bulletin-1184-b-33-parts

-Erik

On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 11:31?AM Erik Bruchez <erik at bruchez.org> wrote:

> Great, thanks for linking them.
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 9:22?AM Nick England <navy.radio at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to add all issues of Bulletins to my big list of
>> Teletype documents at
>> https://www.navy-radio.com/manuals-ttycorp.htm
>>
>> I've updated the 310B listings with links to Erik's and Sam's editions.
>> https://www.navy-radio.com/manuals-ttycorp.htm#310B
>> If there are some links I am missing, please let me know.
>>
>> Nick England K4NYW
>> www.navy-radio.com
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 4:28?PM Sam Rislove Etler <sametler at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is great, thanks for sharing! From a preservation perspective it's
>>> always good to have the various issues of documents available as
>>> information sometimes falls out as the documents evolve. Also they can be
>>> useful for tracing the evolution of product design.
>>>
>>> sam
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 3:53?PM Erik Bruchez <erik at bruchez.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> I know that these manuals are already available online (at least for
>>>> the 1974 edition), but I scanned my own copies of the 1969 edition and
>>>> uploaded them to archive.org.
>>>>
>>>> Bulletin 310 B Vol 1 Technical Manual 33 Teletypewriter Sets
>>>> https://archive.org/details/teletype-bulletin-310-b-vol-1
>>>>
>>>> Bulletin 310 B Vol 2 Technical Manual 33 Teletypewriter Sets
>>>> https://archive.org/details/teletype-bulletin-310-b-vol-2
>>>>
>>>> -Erik
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>> GreenKeys mailing list
>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeys
>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>>> Post: mailto:GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net
>>>>
>>>> >>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool:
>>>> https://teletype.net/gksearch
>>>> >>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive:
>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>>>> >>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:
>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
>>>> >>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool:
>>>> http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
>>>>
>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>>>> Message delivered to etler at cs.wisc.edu
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> GreenKeys mailing list
>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeys
>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>> Post: mailto:GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net
>>>
>>> >>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool:
>>> https://teletype.net/gksearch
>>> >>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive:
>>> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>>> >>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:
>>> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
>>> >>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool:
>>> http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
>>>
>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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From w9ddd at tapr.org  Thu Oct  5 22:59:46 2023
From: w9ddd at tapr.org (John, W9DDD)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2023 21:59:46 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] 28ASR with slow release relay in LESU
In-Reply-To: <faf41dc3-4f18-2a68-969d-7ff2d4711b20@tapr.org>
References: <faf41dc3-4f18-2a68-969d-7ff2d4711b20@tapr.org>
Message-ID: <69572d26-2cc5-a170-1ac6-18b955a742bc@tapr.org>

New subject line:? How to waste two weeks for not reading carefully.

I've never had a 28 before where I used the polar relay in the LESU.? I 
think the KSR floor cabinet which also contained the LESU came out of a 
service that didn't use polar relays.? The other gear was a 28 KSR and 
28RO which were in skintight rack mount cabinets and didn't have any 
LESU.? Fast forward to this century. I removed the polar stuff from the 
KSR I got since that's the way I remember using them before (or maybe it 
was already gone?) .

The 28 ASR I got, thanks to Nick for transportation, came with a polar 
relay.? Unfortunately it has a desirable feature which I wanted to keep 
and means keeping the polar relay.? It involved the aforementioned slow 
release relay.

So my problem was the printer ran open in all but the K-T position.? In 
that position the SR relay is operated.The keyboard and printer are in 
effect are switched to a local loop of their own.? That allows you to 
punch tape and see it on the printer.? So my futile efforts revolved 
around the relay.? It is connected to the space contact of the polar 
relay so that if you start getting signals from the line it switches the 
printer and keyboard back to the signal line.

I spent a lot of time figuring out how to test all the wiring 
connections without having to turn the LESU upside down. Yes the polar 
relay is getting 60 mA line current and 30 mA bias current so on and so 
forth.? Eventually the conclusion was the polar relay has to be bad.? 
Out comes the 314B version and in goes another. Nuts that didn't work.? 
Tried about 5 other 255 relays, still doesn't fix the problem.? Decided 
to try adjusting one of the 255s.? Should be good now?? Well no!? Seems 
like something is fighting the 60 mA side.? Could the line current be of 
the wrong polarity?? Never was important before (selector magnets don't 
care about polarity).? Don't ever remember seeing anything about correct 
polarity in documents.

Well swapped the wiring on the line (loop) wires and son of a gun it 
fired right up and worked.? The line-test switch tipped me off when I 
noticed things worked right in test.? To be fair there were other 
problems at the beginning. I guess all the flipping of switches, 
plugging and unplugging things along the way took care of dirty contacts 
that may have been causing the other problems? Nothing like trying to 
analyze with changing symptoms.

Went and looked at a schematic for a 28 ASR and darned if it doesn't 
show C5 as being +.

Another joyous moment in this pursuit is that I discovered that one of 
the 314Bs was a leaker and I now need to clean the polar relay shelf.? 
(the 314Bs are going into zip lock bags.)


---
----
You said "tomorrow" yesterday.

The above comments or recommendations are SWAG. Use at your own risk.
John, W9DDD

On 9/12/2023 10:50 PM, John, W9DDD wrote:
> My ASR has a slow release relay in it.? It's coil is fired by the 
> space contact of the line relay (other stuff in there too depending on 
> the position of the K-KT-T switch).
>
> It's an LESU15
>
> https://navy-radio.com/manuals/tty/wd/pc/3298wd-iss12-6402.pdf
>
> Does anyone know exactly how this supposed to work.? It appears to be 
> intended to allow you to get local copy during tape punching if there 
> is no signal line activity and you're in the K-T position.
>
> So I'd expect to be able to punch tape and get copy on the printer of 
> what's being punches with no problem when the Line-Test switch is in 
> Test position.? Sometime it works that way and other not. Sometimes it 
> decides it will work with the switch in the Line position and not have 
> a line connected.
>
> I'm expecting a dirty contact in either the slow release relay or the 
> switch and I'll eventually? go there, but I'd like to have a better 
> understanding of what's going on before having the machine torn apart 
> for a long period of time.? It'd be nice to figure out how to test it 
> before putting keyboard and printer back in.
>
> May I assume contact cleaner works on relay contacts?? I've only used 
> it on wafer switches and potentiometers in a previous life. Maybe that 
> should be my first approach?? Back to the parts illustrations to see 
> if I can get to the needed places with minimal tearing apart of things.
>
>


From navy.radio at gmail.com  Fri Oct  6 09:52:36 2023
From: navy.radio at gmail.com (Nick England)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 09:52:36 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] 1969 edition of Bulletin 310 B (for Model 33) on
	archive.org
In-Reply-To: <CAAc0PEVdk2Z=5gi725MCRE9vFPh83Vtb4mz4YUTynk-wm_Kjxw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAc0PEUgoqAKQOP5XwDwdM1a0Y-aY9+GLTebETBQntTApLDCFw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN7CX7K3268kHT00OHTBkdnfPEQSoNuQz67sV6tPtXf=X8gMfg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAB55hNeR2RfSp=y3-SOQ=foKCzo2GgMK20Bjt5efyYTPQMM7HA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAc0PEX4xfx4nAGxpP5T_wQ7Q=tSXWf=tcC0RS75Vpougd3HZQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAc0PEVdk2Z=5gi725MCRE9vFPh83Vtb4mz4YUTynk-wm_Kjxw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB55hNdZP=7Q00_SBLgeeWNSXDN8p2XHDj-fHEpMxH_rhLrRug@mail.gmail.com>

While adding this link and a few more from bitsavers, I see that M32
coverage was dropped from the 1184B parts manual sometime between Change 8
and Change 10 (1965-1968). So that's confirmation of the value of keeping
around older versions of manuals.
It looks like M32 Parts got spun out separately as 1210B.

Nick England K4NYW
www.navy-radio.com


On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 8:14?PM Erik Bruchez <erik at bruchez.org> wrote:

> All,
>
> I have now also added the parts bulletin:
>
> Bulletin 1184 B 33 Page Printer Set (ASR, KSR And RO) Parts
> https://archive.org/details/teletype-bulletin-1184-b-33-parts
>
> -Erik
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 11:31?AM Erik Bruchez <erik at bruchez.org> wrote:
>
>> Great, thanks for linking them.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 9:22?AM Nick England <navy.radio at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been trying to add all issues of Bulletins to my big list of
>>> Teletype documents at
>>> https://www.navy-radio.com/manuals-ttycorp.htm
>>>
>>> I've updated the 310B listings with links to Erik's and Sam's editions.
>>> https://www.navy-radio.com/manuals-ttycorp.htm#310B
>>> If there are some links I am missing, please let me know.
>>>
>>> Nick England K4NYW
>>> www.navy-radio.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 4:28?PM Sam Rislove Etler <sametler at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is great, thanks for sharing! From a preservation perspective it's
>>>> always good to have the various issues of documents available as
>>>> information sometimes falls out as the documents evolve. Also they can be
>>>> useful for tracing the evolution of product design.
>>>>
>>>> sam
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 3:53?PM Erik Bruchez <erik at bruchez.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that these manuals are already available online (at least for
>>>>> the 1974 edition), but I scanned my own copies of the 1969 edition and
>>>>> uploaded them to archive.org.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bulletin 310 B Vol 1 Technical Manual 33 Teletypewriter Sets
>>>>> https://archive.org/details/teletype-bulletin-310-b-vol-1
>>>>>
>>>>> Bulletin 310 B Vol 2 Technical Manual 33 Teletypewriter Sets
>>>>> https://archive.org/details/teletype-bulletin-310-b-vol-2
>>>>>
>>>>> -Erik
>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>> GreenKeys mailing list
>>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeys
>>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>>>> Post: mailto:GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool:
>>>>> https://teletype.net/gksearch
>>>>> >>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive:
>>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>>>>> >>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:
>>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
>>>>> >>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool:
>>>>> http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
>>>>>
>>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>>>>> Message delivered to etler at cs.wisc.edu
>>>>
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>> GreenKeys mailing list
>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeys
>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>>> Post: mailto:GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net
>>>>
>>>> >>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool:
>>>> https://teletype.net/gksearch
>>>> >>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive:
>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>>>> >>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:
>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
>>>> >>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool:
>>>> http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
>>>>
>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>>>> Message delivered to navy.radio at gmail.com
>>>
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From duncanancy at earthlink.net  Fri Oct  6 12:22:53 2023
From: duncanancy at earthlink.net (Duncan Brown)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 12:22:53 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] 28ASR with slow release relay in LESU
In-Reply-To: <69572d26-2cc5-a170-1ac6-18b955a742bc@tapr.org>
References: <faf41dc3-4f18-2a68-969d-7ff2d4711b20@tapr.org>
	<69572d26-2cc5-a170-1ac6-18b955a742bc@tapr.org>
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John,

Glad to hear you solved your problem.

I have a M28ASR that someone bypassed the polar relay and added a fixed 
series resistor to the loop.? But I want to use it with TU (HAL ST-6000) 
that has a fixed series resistor in the loop, so I need to dig into the 
LESU and try to return it to the original wiring.

Anytime you use a polar relay, you need to be aware of the polarity, 
since the main coil has to have the opposite polarity of the bias coil.

You said "selector magnets don't care about polarity".? That is true of 
Teletype Corp machines, but all of the Kleinschmidt machines (except for 
the original TT-4) are polarity sensitive due to a bias winding within 
the selector magnet.

The MITE machines used an internal selector magnet driver that was 
polarity sensitive, but they added a bridge rectifier in front of it, so 
loop polarity was not a problem.? (I've been thinking of adding a bridge 
rectifier in front of my KLI machines so as not t o have polarity issues.)

Have fun,

Duncan
K2OEQ



On 05-Oct-23 22:59, John, W9DDD wrote:
> New subject line:? How to waste two weeks for not reading carefully.
>
> I've never had a 28 before where I used the polar relay in the LESU.? 
> I think the KSR floor cabinet which also contained the LESU came out 
> of a service that didn't use polar relays.? The other gear was a 28 
> KSR and 28RO which were in skintight rack mount cabinets and didn't 
> have any LESU.? Fast forward to this century. I removed the polar 
> stuff from the KSR I got since that's the way I remember using them 
> before (or maybe it was already gone?) .
>
> The 28 ASR I got, thanks to Nick for transportation, came with a polar 
> relay.? Unfortunately it has a desirable feature which I wanted to 
> keep and means keeping the polar relay.? It involved the 
> aforementioned slow release relay.
>
> So my problem was the printer ran open in all but the K-T position.? 
> In that position the SR relay is operated.The keyboard and printer are 
> in effect are switched to a local loop of their own.? That allows you 
> to punch tape and see it on the printer.? So my futile efforts 
> revolved around the relay.? It is connected to the space contact of 
> the polar relay so that if you start getting signals from the line it 
> switches the printer and keyboard back to the signal line.
>
> I spent a lot of time figuring out how to test all the wiring 
> connections without having to turn the LESU upside down. Yes the polar 
> relay is getting 60 mA line current and 30 mA bias current so on and 
> so forth.? Eventually the conclusion was the polar relay has to be 
> bad.? Out comes the 314B version and in goes another. Nuts that didn't 
> work.? Tried about 5 other 255 relays, still doesn't fix the problem.? 
> Decided to try adjusting one of the 255s.? Should be good now?? Well 
> no!? Seems like something is fighting the 60 mA side.? Could the line 
> current be of the wrong polarity?? Never was important before 
> (selector magnets don't care about polarity).? Don't ever remember 
> seeing anything about correct polarity in documents.
>
> Well swapped the wiring on the line (loop) wires and son of a gun it 
> fired right up and worked.? The line-test switch tipped me off when I 
> noticed things worked right in test.? To be fair there were other 
> problems at the beginning. I guess all the flipping of switches, 
> plugging and unplugging things along the way took care of dirty 
> contacts that may have been causing the other problems? Nothing like 
> trying to analyze with changing symptoms.
>
> Went and looked at a schematic for a 28 ASR and darned if it doesn't 
> show C5 as being +.
>
> Another joyous moment in this pursuit is that I discovered that one of 
> the 314Bs was a leaker and I now need to clean the polar relay shelf.? 
> (the 314Bs are going into zip lock bags.)
>
>
> ---
> ----
> You said "tomorrow" yesterday.
>
> The above comments or recommendations are SWAG. Use at your own risk.
> John, W9DDD
>
> On 9/12/2023 10:50 PM, John, W9DDD wrote:
>> My ASR has a slow release relay in it. It's coil is fired by the 
>> space contact of the line relay (other stuff in there too depending 
>> on the position of the K-KT-T switch).
>>
>> It's an LESU15
>>
>> https://navy-radio.com/manuals/tty/wd/pc/3298wd-iss12-6402.pdf
>>
>> Does anyone know exactly how this supposed to work.? It appears to be 
>> intended to allow you to get local copy during tape punching if there 
>> is no signal line activity and you're in the K-T position.
>>
>> So I'd expect to be able to punch tape and get copy on the printer of 
>> what's being punches with no problem when the Line-Test switch is in 
>> Test position.? Sometime it works that way and other not. Sometimes 
>> it decides it will work with the switch in the Line position and not 
>> have a line connected.
>>
>> I'm expecting a dirty contact in either the slow release relay or the 
>> switch and I'll eventually? go there, but I'd like to have a better 
>> understanding of what's going on before having the machine torn apart 
>> for a long period of time.? It'd be nice to figure out how to test it 
>> before putting keyboard and printer back in.
>>
>> May I assume contact cleaner works on relay contacts?? I've only used 
>> it on wafer switches and potentiometers in a previous life. Maybe 
>> that should be my first approach?? Back to the parts illustrations to 
>> see if I can get to the needed places with minimal tearing apart of 
>> things.
>>
>>
>
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From teletypeparts at comcast.net  Fri Oct  6 14:22:09 2023
From: teletypeparts at comcast.net (WAYNE)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 14:22:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [GreenKeys] KSR-33 buzzing
In-Reply-To: <465bb654-fecd-4fc5-9e0e-74ce3678ad70@mktx.com>
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From bwhewell at hotmail.com  Fri Oct  6 14:39:04 2023
From: bwhewell at hotmail.com (Ben Whewell)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 18:39:04 +0000
Subject: [GreenKeys] ASR/KSR 33 motar band
Message-ID: <73FB5867-9AAE-4B84-8C89-54D2D48C742D@hotmail.com>

Hello, 

I am looking for a ASR/KSR 33 motor band that connects the motor to the main shaft. It has 25 teeth. 

I am in the UK, Any one have any replacements or a ?like? replacement. Thanks in advance

Ben

From bobp at mktx.com  Fri Oct  6 14:46:43 2023
From: bobp at mktx.com (Bob Patterson)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 11:46:43 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] KSR-33 buzzing
In-Reply-To: <403766177.90929.1696616529280@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <465bb654-fecd-4fc5-9e0e-74ce3678ad70@mktx.com>
	<403766177.90929.1696616529280@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <08e95b12-5a8f-454f-9c5c-884d721037ef@mktx.com>

OK.? Thanks, Wayne.? The capacitor is on order.

Bob

On 10/6/2023 11:22 AM, WAYNE wrote:
> Bob,
> Its the selector magnet armature thats buzzing.
> Wayne
> KB1FDW
>> On 10/05/2023 4:31 PM EDT Bob Patterson <bobp at mktx.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here's a good one for you...
>>
>> My KSR-33 started making buzzing noise, emanating from the left rear 
>> of the machine, with the power switch turned _off_. It is also typing 
>> randomly with the power switch turned to Local.? But, the printer 
>> appears to be typing normally under computer control with the power 
>> switch turned to Line.
>>
>> Does anyone have an idea what's wrong?
>>
>> I'm not really able to identify exactly which gadget the buzzing is 
>> coming from, but it's not the motor. It seems to be coming from the 
>> left end of the shaft that the motor drives.
>>
>> Thanks very much for any help you can provide.
>>
>> Bob Patterson
>>
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From teletypeparts at comcast.net  Fri Oct  6 15:37:27 2023
From: teletypeparts at comcast.net (WAYNE)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 15:37:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [GreenKeys] ASR/KSR 33 motar band
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From navy.radio at gmail.com  Fri Oct  6 17:17:30 2023
From: navy.radio at gmail.com (Nick England)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 17:17:30 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Radio-RTTY-Activity
Message-ID: <CAB55hNeZ8aZRrSzw3kEP61-VnqEkwk3q7ArtGgUn8grBUwgj1w@mail.gmail.com>

20m was pretty good today and on 14086 LSB I got to chat a little with
Greenkeyers Jim KH6CN, Harold W6IWI, and Jon N5MHI. Always a pleasure when
the ionosphere tickles my 28ASR.
Joe Bob says ?check it out some time??

Cheers!
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From w2hx at w2hx.com  Fri Oct  6 17:37:50 2023
From: w2hx at w2hx.com (W2HX)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 21:37:50 +0000
Subject: [GreenKeys] Radio-RTTY-Activity
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What shift was used?


73 Eugene W2HX
Subscribe to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@w2hx/videos

From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net <greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Nick England
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2023 5:18 PM
To: Greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [GreenKeys] Radio-RTTY-Activity

20m was pretty good today and on 14086 LSB I got to chat a little with Greenkeyers Jim KH6CN, Harold W6IWI, and Jon N5MHI. Always a pleasure when the ionosphere tickles my 28ASR.
Joe Bob says ?check it out some time??

Cheers!
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From harold at w6iwi.org  Fri Oct  6 17:46:43 2023
From: harold at w6iwi.org (Harold Hallikainen)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 14:46:43 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Radio-RTTY-Activity
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170 Hz

On Fri, October 6, 2023 2:37 pm, W2HX wrote:
> What shift was used?
>
>
> 73 Eugene W2HX
> Subscribe to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@w2hx/videos
>
> From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> <greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Nick England
> Sent: Friday, October 6, 2023 5:18 PM
> To: Greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [GreenKeys] Radio-RTTY-Activity
>
> 20m was pretty good today and on 14086 LSB I got to chat a little with
> Greenkeyers Jim KH6CN, Harold W6IWI, and Jon N5MHI. Always a pleasure when
> the ionosphere tickles my 28ASR.
> Joe Bob says ???check it out some time??????
>
> Cheers!
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From n5mhi.jon at gmail.com  Fri Oct  6 21:06:32 2023
From: n5mhi.jon at gmail.com (Jon N5MHI)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 20:06:32 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys]  Perforator Tape available in South Central WI
Message-ID: <CACtTqEAG84Qt_OP=A+h7xbM5J7R+10JX_CA5nMTrybNQj94N8A@mail.gmail.com>

If the 1/4" tape is actually 3/8", I'd pay to have it shipped to also keep
it out of the trash. Check to be sure it isn't all fused together as that
can happen to the real old stuff.
Thanks,
Jon N5MHI

> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 14:14:53 -0500
> From: Jim Taylor <jim at videoterm.com>
> From an estate, I have a fair quantity of 5-level perforator tape that
>needs a new home.? I also have several rolls of 1/4" printing tape.
>I would prefer if there's someone local that would come and pick them up.
>I just don't want to donate them to the recycle bin.
>Thanks es 73,
>Jim, K9JT
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From deramp5113 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  7 15:07:15 2023
From: deramp5113 at yahoo.com (Mike Douglas)
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2023 14:07:15 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] ASR-33 Available
References: <784A3124-DA6A-4883-8912-CEE637B78592.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <784A3124-DA6A-4883-8912-CEE637B78592@yahoo.com>

I?m trying to free up some space in my vintage computer lab and this includes getting rid of my ASR-33. $100, local pickup only, North Texas/DFW area. Email me for pictures and details.  

Mike

From harold at w6iwi.org  Sun Oct  8 22:19:48 2023
From: harold at w6iwi.org (Harold Hallikainen)
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2023 19:19:48 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Various digital modes
Message-ID: <3388dc08668af51b6b88bea453c7600f.squirrel@hallikainen.org>

I recently had an RTTY QSO with K7TMG. He invited me to write something
about my DSP Terminal Unit and Heavy Metal RTTY for the West Mountain
Radio newsletter. I had never seen their newsletters. They are really
pretty good. They are at
https://www.westmountainradio.com/content.php?page=newsletters .

One of the interesting articles (written by K7TMG) summarizes various
digital signals. It's at
https://www.westmountainradio.com/pdf/Quarter-2-2021.pdf#page=2 . I note
that FLDigi covers them all.

Harold
https://w6iwi.org




From depotter4707 at gmail.com  Mon Oct  9 13:41:20 2023
From: depotter4707 at gmail.com (David Potter)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2023 12:41:20 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] Test Message
Message-ID: <CAF_SoXn1NMerXFQ+DD4WTxqhwLdF4Uq8ahnGL_1u2OFxbZbb7w@mail.gmail.com>

THIS IS A TEST MESSAGE TO MY KLEINSCHIMT TTY MACHINE.
DAVID KA5IXE
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From kschuchmann at protonmail.com  Mon Oct  9 17:55:27 2023
From: kschuchmann at protonmail.com (Kevin Schuchmann)
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2023 21:55:27 +0000
Subject: [GreenKeys] Mistakes were made
Message-ID: <W5B_jpnQ_4uKa_T7K86Y3GBNkMlRak4ZVQ7iM34kgMnBb9tRx314DEgbXi1oB49njyTzGahgxGL-26lENlqFv4HZhm4ilGzfC9nWoSeQWQQ=@protonmail.com>

Hi All,
Long ago I had a M15 and a Heathkit HD-3030 and it followed me through many moves, then came a multi-state relocate and I donated the set to a museum in Sacramento CA. that was looking for one rather than move it yet again.
Well now I miss it and want to get back into heavy metal RTTY so if anyone has a HAL ST-6000 they want to part with please contact me via my direct email on QRZ.com.

Thanks
Kevin WA7FWF
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From tomhenryhunter at gmail.com  Wed Oct 11 13:10:46 2023
From: tomhenryhunter at gmail.com (Tom Hunter)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 13:10:46 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] =?utf-8?q?Joe_Duszy=C5=84ski?=
Message-ID: <CAJK8691Nxm2-G56=A7FJpN5mWN90wB7A8qhocAPRwXjbT9WYRQ@mail.gmail.com>

Has anyone heard from Joe Duszy?ski recently. I have not heard from him in
a couple years and he did not answer an email recently.


Tom    N3CRK
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From tomhenryhunter at gmail.com  Wed Oct 11 13:15:01 2023
From: tomhenryhunter at gmail.com (Tom Hunter)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 13:15:01 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] 255A Connectors
Message-ID: <CAJK8690GKuUbMhO62DiAuC=DEUUYjhp0OmHXQ2i7k_j78vgkaw@mail.gmail.com>

A little while back someone mentioned a molex connector that was perfect
for 255A pins. I cannot find that email.

Could someone please refresh  my memory.


Tom   N3CRK
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From deramp5113 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 12 09:26:55 2023
From: deramp5113 at yahoo.com (Mike Douglas)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 13:26:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [GreenKeys] =?utf-8?q?Joe_Duszy=C5=84ski?=
In-Reply-To: <CAJK8691Nxm2-G56=A7FJpN5mWN90wB7A8qhocAPRwXjbT9WYRQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJK8691Nxm2-G56=A7FJpN5mWN90wB7A8qhocAPRwXjbT9WYRQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <933107319.14684644.1697117215838@mail.yahoo.com>

 I was working with Joe who was testing my 60ma interface board almost exactly one year ago. Then all of the sudden he no longer responded. I checked in by email a few more times in November and December of 22, but did not hear back. I figured he just got busy, I hope everything is OK.

Mike D


     On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 12:11:07 PM CDT, Tom Hunter <tomhenryhunter at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Has anyone heard from Joe Duszy?ski recently. I have not heard from him in a couple years and he did not answer an email recently.

Tom??? N3CRK
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From tomhenryhunter at gmail.com  Thu Oct 12 09:32:04 2023
From: tomhenryhunter at gmail.com (Tom Hunter)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 09:32:04 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] =?utf-8?q?Joe_Duszy=C5=84ski?=
Message-ID: <CAJK8692gRJogP2P0DUT26k83cF_Lp1_e7CshjDFd-44wCZKF5Q@mail.gmail.com>

Mike,

Thank you for the update. I know the were some tornadoes north of him.  I
am hoping he did not get hit by one.


Tom   N3CRK
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From VE3PIE at outlook.com  Thu Oct 12 16:40:07 2023
From: VE3PIE at outlook.com (Fred Weksberg)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 20:40:07 +0000
Subject: [GreenKeys] =?iso-8859-2?q?_Joe_Duszy=F1ski?=
Message-ID: <DM6PR02MB6074195B9EC4987248E6EFD580D3A@DM6PR02MB6074.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

I was speaking with Joe in the spring.  I was going to buy a 28ASR from him.  He was having back problems and was going to the VA hospital. He wasn't sure what they were going to do - ? maybe surgery
Then suddenly he disappeared.  I have his phone number for his home and florida place - nobody ever answers.  I haven't called the numbers since the spring.
Doesn't sound good

Fred
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From sean at rustyradios.org.uk  Thu Oct 12 17:04:27 2023
From: sean at rustyradios.org.uk (sean)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 22:04:27 +0100
Subject: [GreenKeys] =?utf-8?q?Joe_Duszy=C5=84ski?=
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Message-ID: <Zen-1qr2r6-007b6k-21@shcp04.hosting.zen.net.uk>

Joe last checked in to telexforum.de on August 27th.Hope he is okay.CheersSeanM1ECYSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Fred Weksberg <VE3PIE at outlook.com> Date: 12/10/2023  21:40  (GMT+00:00) To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net Subject: [GreenKeys]  Joe Duszy?ski 

I was speaking with Joe in the spring.? I was going to buy a 28ASR from him.? He was having back problems and was going to the VA hospital. He wasn't sure what they were going to do - ? maybe surgery?

Then suddenly he disappeared.? I have his phone number for his home and florida place - nobody ever answers.? I haven't called the numbers since the spring.??

Doesn't sound good




Fred?

VE3WN


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From navy.radio at gmail.com  Thu Oct 12 19:56:16 2023
From: navy.radio at gmail.com (Nick England)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 19:56:16 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] =?utf-8?q?Joe_Duszy=C5=84ski?=
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I got email from him Sept 23.

On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 4:40 PM Fred Weksberg <VE3PIE at outlook.com> wrote:

> I was speaking with Joe in the spring.  I was going to buy a 28ASR from
> him.  He was having back problems and was going to the VA hospital. He
> wasn't sure what they were going to do - ? maybe surgery
> Then suddenly he disappeared.  I have his phone number for his home and
> florida place - nobody ever answers.  I haven't called the numbers since
> the spring.
> Doesn't sound good
>
> Fred
> VE3WN
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From VE3PIE at outlook.com  Thu Oct 12 21:56:28 2023
From: VE3PIE at outlook.com (Fred Weksberg)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 01:56:28 +0000
Subject: [GreenKeys] =?utf-8?q?Joe_Duszy=C5=84ski?=
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Good to hear.  I?ll give him a call.
I was going to get a 28ASR, but after he disappeared I received a Siemens T-1000Z.  So I am trying to restore it.
It?s in bad shape, I have taken it all apart, started to clean it, and have begun to replace the important caps ? big job.
Would you have a parts list by any chance for all the components on the multiple PC boards ?
73, Fred
VE3WN

From: Nick England <navy.radio at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 7:56 PM
To: Fred Weksberg <VE3PIE at outlook.com>
Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Joe Duszy?ski

I got email from him Sept 23.

On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 4:40 PM Fred Weksberg <VE3PIE at outlook.com<mailto:VE3PIE at outlook.com>> wrote:
I was speaking with Joe in the spring.  I was going to buy a 28ASR from him.  He was having back problems and was going to the VA hospital. He wasn't sure what they were going to do - ? maybe surgery
Then suddenly he disappeared.  I have his phone number for his home and florida place - nobody ever answers.  I haven't called the numbers since the spring.
Doesn't sound good

Fred
VE3WN
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From til128 at juno.com  Fri Oct 13 12:13:31 2023
From: til128 at juno.com (til128 at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 16:13:31 GMT
Subject: [GreenKeys] Looking for - -
Message-ID: <20231013.121331.21920.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>

Hi all: I need some help. I am looking for an EARLY  board by Eric Volpe. It is the one made in August 2011. Has it really been that long?? :-) It's the current loop ASFK demod board. If you want to part with one, I would be most interested. Please contact off list. Thanks Tom WB2TTY Tillson
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From epvgk at limpoc.com  Fri Oct 13 14:30:40 2023
From: epvgk at limpoc.com (eric)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 11:30:40 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Looking for - -
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If no one has an assembled board for you, I can probably at least help 
you out with a bare board and the two chips that have become hard to get 
- the NJM2211 demodulator chip and the optoisolator for talking to the 
loop. The rest is just plain passive components which should be in most 
junkboxes, and/or i can see what I can find.

eric

On 2023-10-13 09:13, til128 at juno.com wrote:

> Hi all:
> 
> I need some help.
> 
> I am looking for an EARLY  board by Eric Volpe. It is the one made in 
> August 2011.
> 
> Has it really been that long?? :-)
> 
> It's the current loop ASFK demod board.
> 
> If you want to part with one, I would be most interested.
> 
> Please contact off list.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Tom WB2TTY Tillson
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From w9ddd at tapr.org  Fri Oct 13 21:16:47 2023
From: w9ddd at tapr.org (John, W9DDD)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 20:16:47 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] M28KSR in Dallas area
Message-ID: <9f4c1af0-a0c5-93dc-3bb0-2fc3e2817469@tapr.org>

I was wondering if anyone was looking for a machine.? I need to thin the 
herd a bit.? If there is interest I could put together a complete KSR 
for someone with some time.

-- 
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----
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The above comments or recommendations are SWAG. Use at your own risk.
John, W9DDD


From vbiersch at gmail.com  Fri Oct 13 21:27:12 2023
From: vbiersch at gmail.com (Virgil Bierschwale)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 20:27:12 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] M28KSR in Dallas area
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I would be interested if I could find a way to get it from dallas to
junction

Virgil
N5IVV


On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 8:17?PM John, W9DDD <w9ddd at tapr.org> wrote:

> I was wondering if anyone was looking for a machine.  I need to thin the
> herd a bit.  If there is interest I could put together a complete KSR
> for someone with some time.
>
> --
> ---
> ----
> You said "tomorrow" yesterday.
>
> The above comments or recommendations are SWAG. Use at your own risk.
> John, W9DDD
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From mmcauley at cox.net  Fri Oct 13 21:31:29 2023
From: mmcauley at cox.net (Mike McAuley)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 18:31:29 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] M28KSR in Dallas area
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FWIW...check out "uship.com"Mike
-------- Original message --------From: Virgil Bierschwale <vbiersch at gmail.com> Date: 10/13/23  6:27 PM  (GMT-07:00) To: "John, W9DDD" <w9ddd at tapr.org> Cc: Green Keys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] M28KSR in Dallas area I would be interested if I could find a way to get it from dallas to junctionVirgilN5IVVOn Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 8:17?PM John, W9DDD <w9ddd at tapr.org> wrote:I was wondering if anyone was looking for a machine.? I need to thin the 
herd a bit.? If there is interest I could put together a complete KSR 
for someone with some time.

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From cdlale63 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 14 16:31:51 2023
From: cdlale63 at yahoo.com (Cecil Lale)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 20:31:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [GreenKeys] Frederick 1280a Question
References: <1181949515.15704172.1697315511773.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Can a 60ma loop work on the 1280a without using the the optional loop board? I see there is a hi level input on the modulator board. But I don't see a hi level output for the receive demodulator.ThanksCecil LaleKF6ZOK
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From w9ddd at tapr.org  Sat Oct 14 17:31:45 2023
From: w9ddd at tapr.org (John)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 16:31:45 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] 28 copy holder
Message-ID: <D8CD54C8-C3A2-462A-9584-B6D1FFDCB8D7@tapr.org>

Having replaced the WU butchered wiring cabinet with a regular LESU, I decided to remove the remaining vestige of WU heritage by removing  the Western Union plate screwed to the copy holder.  

Imagine my surprise  to find the copy holder to be be blank.  Every other one I've ever seen said Teletype (or maybe Bell System?).  I was expecting to see the same on this one.

I suppose this could be anything the customer wanted if willing to pay for it.
The Navy stuff seems to all have the standard Teletype logos. 

John, W9DDD

From cdlale63 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 14 18:30:43 2023
From: cdlale63 at yahoo.com (Cecil Lale)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 22:30:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [GreenKeys] WTB Frederick 1280a high-level keyer board
References: <1481240347.15709787.1697322643714.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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I am looking for the optional high-level keyer board for the Frederick 1280a modem.thanksCecilKF6ZOK
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From harold at w6iwi.org  Sat Oct 14 19:11:27 2023
From: harold at w6iwi.org (Harold Hallikainen)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 16:11:27 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Teletype Model 15 Ribbon Oscillator Adjustment
Message-ID: <1203f813804e2047e0edc8d845f71f30.squirrel@hallikainen.org>

I'm finding that the ribbon oscillator is not lifting the ribbon far
enough so FIGS are not being printed. Looking at Ribbon Oscillator Lever
Adjustment at
https://bitsavers.org/communications/teletype/15/138_Model15_Adj_Oct41.pdf#page=51
, it explains the adjustment and refers to figure 56 at
https://bitsavers.org/communications/teletype/15/138_Model15_Adj_Oct41.pdf#page=91
.

I'm having trouble figuring out where this adjustment is. Since they have
you type a FIGS character to make sure the ribbon goes high enough, I'm
hoping the adjustment is accessible with the carriage in place. But, I
can't find it. Any clues as to where this adjustment is, and how to reach
it, would be great!

Thanks!

Harold
https://w6iwi.org




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From hanyou at xsmail.com  Sat Oct 14 21:32:38 2023
From: hanyou at xsmail.com (E.)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 20:32:38 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] Teletype Model 15 Ribbon Oscillator Adjustment
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One thing you could try before adjustments ? it could be a stretch, but you could try lubricating/dousing the area with a very light synthetic motor oil? it could be gummed up enough that it just doesn?t want to reach the point to where it should (the ribbon also could be too tight ? also due to gumming within the spindle cup).  If this doesn?t wok ? as I remember, you do have to remove the type basket.  I don?t remember where the adjustment is, but it?s in the part-region on the basket where the type basket doohickey slides in-between the two striking bars (the name is escaping me right now).  The more movement that is allowed into the basket, the higher the ribbon should swing after a key is pressed while in figures.

I apologize, it?s been awhile since I had to look at that ? I did have the same issue at one time as well.


> On Oct 14, 2023, at 6:11?PM, Harold Hallikainen via GreenKeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> I'm finding that the ribbon oscillator is not lifting the ribbon far
> enough so FIGS are not being printed. Looking at Ribbon Oscillator Lever
> Adjustment at
> https://bitsavers.org/communications/teletype/15/138_Model15_Adj_Oct41.pdf#page=51
> , it explains the adjustment and refers to figure 56 at
> https://bitsavers.org/communications/teletype/15/138_Model15_Adj_Oct41.pdf#page=91
> .
> 
> I'm having trouble figuring out where this adjustment is. Since they have
> you type a FIGS character to make sure the ribbon goes high enough, I'm
> hoping the adjustment is accessible with the carriage in place. But, I
> can't find it. Any clues as to where this adjustment is, and how to reach
> it, would be great!
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Harold
> https://w6iwi.org

From w9ddd at tapr.org  Sat Oct 14 23:02:26 2023
From: w9ddd at tapr.org (John, W9DDD)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 22:02:26 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] Teletype Model 15 Ribbon Oscillator Adjustment
In-Reply-To: <F4B786F8-C051-45C4-A448-8E9187EDFE0A@xsmail.com>
References: <1203f813804e2047e0edc8d845f71f30.squirrel@hallikainen.org>
	<F4B786F8-C051-45C4-A448-8E9187EDFE0A@xsmail.com>
Message-ID: <7150f18d-c131-558b-082b-f3dffeb49f46@tapr.org>

 ?I think I'd second the suggestion.? I had the basket off of one about 
a year ago and I seem to recall a lot of stuff was sluggish prior 
lubrication.? Sometimes you need to lub, exercise, clean and put fresh 
lub.? Don't know whether you can get at the right spots without taking 
the basket off, I don't know 'cause I took if off for other problems first.

---
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You said "tomorrow" yesterday.

The above comments or recommendations are SWAG. Use at your own risk.
John, W9DDD

On 10/14/2023 8:32 PM, E. wrote:
> One thing you could try before adjustments ? it could be a stretch, but you could try lubricating/dousing the area with a very light synthetic motor oil? it could be gummed up enough that it just doesn?t want to reach the point to where it should (the ribbon also could be too tight ? also due to gumming within the spindle cup).  If this doesn?t wok ? as I remember, you do have to remove the type basket.  I don?t remember where the adjustment is, but it?s in the part-region on the basket where the type basket doohickey slides in-between the two striking bars (the name is escaping me right now).  The more movement that is allowed into the basket, the higher the ribbon should swing after a key is pressed while in figures.
>
> I apologize, it?s been awhile since I had to look at that ? I did have the same issue at one time as well.
>
>
>> On Oct 14, 2023, at 6:11?PM, Harold Hallikainen via GreenKeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>
>> I'm finding that the ribbon oscillator is not lifting the ribbon far
>> enough so FIGS are not being printed. Looking at Ribbon Oscillator Lever
>> Adjustment at
>> https://bitsavers.org/communications/teletype/15/138_Model15_Adj_Oct41.pdf#page=51
>> , it explains the adjustment and refers to figure 56 at
>> https://bitsavers.org/communications/teletype/15/138_Model15_Adj_Oct41.pdf#page=91
>> .
>>
>> I'm having trouble figuring out where this adjustment is. Since they have
>> you type a FIGS character to make sure the ribbon goes high enough, I'm
>> hoping the adjustment is accessible with the carriage in place. But, I
>> can't find it. Any clues as to where this adjustment is, and how to reach
>> it, would be great!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Harold
>> https://w6iwi.org
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From tomhenryhunter at gmail.com  Sun Oct 15 12:20:22 2023
From: tomhenryhunter at gmail.com (Tom Hunter)
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 12:20:22 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Harold, You are not Going to Like This
Message-ID: <CAJK8690Xd7yvSCG0wUy1GkcoZsYoctREpfpyUTHn_5Vqgu0A1g@mail.gmail.com>

I have a junk model 15 carriage that I used to take these pictures.

I agree with those who said to try lubricating it first. But just to see at
not to mention lubricating it you will have to take your carriage off.

My right and left happened to be the way the carriage was laying when I
took the pictures.


Tom   N3CRK
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From harold at w6iwi.org  Sun Oct 15 13:30:32 2023
From: harold at w6iwi.org (Harold Hallikainen)
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 10:30:32 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Harold, You are not Going to Like This
In-Reply-To: <CAJK8690Xd7yvSCG0wUy1GkcoZsYoctREpfpyUTHn_5Vqgu0A1g@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <cbacc9ed58f0f3b14d148f41461a0b0c.squirrel@hallikainen.org>

Thanks for the photos! The instructions seem to say to adjust it such that
it prints FIGS correctly, which requires the carriage to be in place, but
the adjustment requires the carriage to be removed. Not fun!

I'll dig into it. I bought another box of disposable gloves yesterday to I
don't end up with purple fingers (I'm using purple ink ribbons).

Thanks!

Harold
https://w6iwi.org


On Sun, October 15, 2023 9:20 am, Tom Hunter wrote:
> I have a junk model 15 carriage that I used to take these pictures.
>
> I agree with those who said to try lubricating it first. But just to see
> at
> not to mention lubricating it you will have to take your carriage off.
>
> My right and left happened to be the way the carriage was laying when I
> took the pictures.
>
>
> Tom   N3CRK
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From til128 at juno.com  Sun Oct 15 15:15:45 2023
From: til128 at juno.com (til128 at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 19:15:45 GMT
Subject: [GreenKeys] Looking for - -
Message-ID: <20231015.151545.30072.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com>

Larry and all: A most generous GK member has offered one to me. Thanks to all who responded. Tom T

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Lawrence Godek <lawrenceg94 at gmail.com>
To: "til128 at juno.com" <til128 at juno.com>
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Looking for - -
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 04:49:42 -0700

Hi Tom,

I have one somewhere.  I tried selling it this past summer, lots of 
saying i'll take it but no one finished out the deal.  I put it 
someplace, now to find it again.  Nice little demod, ran off of 12V iirc 
but i had several big demods so i never used that one. I'll keep looking.

Larry W0OGH


On 10/13/2023 9:13 AM, til128 at juno.com wrote:
> Hi all:
> I need some help.
> I am looking for an EARLY  board by Eric Volpe. It is the one made in 
> August 2011.
> Has it really been that long?? :-)
> It's the current loop ASFK demod board.
> If you want to part with one, I would be most interested.
> Please contact off list.
> Thanks
> Tom WB2TTY Tillson
>
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From ilrr00 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 15 16:30:34 2023
From: ilrr00 at yahoo.com (Larry Simoneau)
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 20:30:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [GreenKeys] Model 28 KSR friction feed typing unit wanted
References: <1352606666.8427100.1697401834218.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1352606666.8427100.1697401834218@mail.yahoo.com>

I have a model 28 KSR with sprocket feed that takes paper having?8" between the holes. ? Hard to find such paper. ?Does anyone have a 161441 conversion kit or an extra?friction feed typing unit?

Larry W1SIM
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From ilrr00 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 15 16:35:07 2023
From: ilrr00 at yahoo.com (Larry Simoneau)
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 20:35:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [GreenKeys] Looking for a Hal DKB-2010 keyboard
References: <375919957.8450509.1697402107089.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <375919957.8450509.1697402107089@mail.yahoo.com>


If anyone has a Hal DKB-2010 Morse / RTTY keyboard they would like to sell please?let me know.
-Larry, W1SIM

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From tomhenryhunter at gmail.com  Sun Oct 15 16:41:46 2023
From: tomhenryhunter at gmail.com (Tom Hunter)
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 16:41:46 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Morse Keyboard
Message-ID: <CAJK8690ce7LceMUozvWGvrAm5r8GrytSBL_ahAN1ThFPRNFC0g@mail.gmail.com>

Larry,

There are a couple Robot keyboards on eBay. They are supposed to do Morse
although I have never tried it with mine.


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From til128 at juno.com  Sun Oct 15 16:45:41 2023
From: til128 at juno.com (til128 at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 20:45:41 GMT
Subject: [GreenKeys] Model 28 KSR friction feed typing unit wanted
Message-ID: <20231015.164541.4695.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>

Hi Larry and all: If looking for sprocket feed paper, try the following: Lableoutfitters.com And search for:  811-0-B55 However, If you really are intent on looking for a friction feed LP, pls contact me off list. Tom WB2TTY Tillson

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Larry Simoneau via GreenKeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
To: <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [GreenKeys] Model 28 KSR friction feed typing unit wanted
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 20:30:34 +0000 (UTC)


I have a model 28 KSR with sprocket feed that takes paper having 8" between the holes.   Hard to find such paper.  Does anyone have a 161441 conversion kit or an extra friction feed typing unit?

Larry W1SIM
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From til128 at juno.com  Sun Oct 15 16:54:32 2023
From: til128 at juno.com (til128 at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 20:54:32 GMT
Subject: [GreenKeys] Model 28 KSR friction feed typing unit wanted
Message-ID: <20231015.165432.4695.1@webmail03.dca.untd.com>

I forgot to mention that the coupon code for them for 10 percent off is "GOOGLE"; TT

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "til128 at juno.com" <til128 at juno.com>
To: ilrr00 at yahoo.com
Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Model 28 KSR friction feed typing unit wanted
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 20:45:41 GMT


Hi Larry and all: If looking for sprocket feed paper, try the following: Lableoutfitters.com And search for:  811-0-B55 However, If you really are intent on looking for a friction feed LP, pls contact me off list. Tom WB2TTY Tillson

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Larry Simoneau via GreenKeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
To: <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [GreenKeys] Model 28 KSR friction feed typing unit wanted
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 20:30:34 +0000 (UTC)

 I have a model 28 KSR with sprocket feed that takes paper having 8" between the holes.   Hard to find such paper.  Does anyone have a 161441 conversion kit or an extra friction feed typing unit?

Larry W1SIM
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From deramp5113 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 15 17:07:50 2023
From: deramp5113 at yahoo.com (Mike Douglas)
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 21:07:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [GreenKeys] Model 28 KSR friction feed typing unit wanted
In-Reply-To: <20231015.165432.4695.1@webmail03.dca.untd.com>
References: <20231015.165432.4695.1@webmail03.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <682922614.10374678.1697404070487@mail.yahoo.com>



On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 02:56:45 PM CST, til128 at juno.com <til128 at juno.com> wrote:


I forgot to mention that the coupon code for them for 10 percent off is "GOOGLE";

TT

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "til128 at juno.com" <til128 at juno.com>
To: ilrr00 at yahoo.com
Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Model 28 KSR friction feed typing unit wanted
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 20:45:41 GMT

Hi Larry and all:

If looking for sprocket feed paper, try the following:

Labeloutfitters.com

And search for:??811-0-B55

However, If you really are intent on looking for a friction feed LP, pls contact me off list.

Tom WB2TTY Tillson

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Larry Simoneau via GreenKeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
To: <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [GreenKeys] Model 28 KSR friction feed typing unit wanted
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 20:30:34 +0000 (UTC)

I have a model 28 KSR with sprocket feed that takes paper having?8" between the holes. ? Hard to find such paper. ?Does anyone have a 161441 conversion kit or an extra?friction feed typing unit?

Larry W1SIM

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From til128 at juno.com  Mon Oct 16 08:27:55 2023
From: til128 at juno.com (til128 at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:27:55 GMT
Subject: [GreenKeys] All Electronics
Message-ID: <20231016.082755.2054.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>

Hi all: For those who have used All Electronics,you know they have closed. However some good news, their employees have started a new business: https://aretronics.com/ that looks about the same. Tom T 
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From paul0926 at comcast.net  Mon Oct 16 10:25:33 2023
From: paul0926 at comcast.net (Paul Heller)
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 16:25:33 +0200
Subject: [GreenKeys] All Electronics
In-Reply-To: <20231016.082755.2054.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
References: <20231016.082755.2054.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
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From 1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com  Mon Oct 16 11:40:57 2023
From: 1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com (Richard Knoppow)
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 08:40:57 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] All Electronics
In-Reply-To: <5FAB7DCD-A1F7-4D6B-9C16-A650AD8B7E17@comcast.net>
References: <20231016.082755.2054.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
	<5FAB7DCD-A1F7-4D6B-9C16-A650AD8B7E17@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <104733ac-e4e7-4417-ac01-d31b321368ee@ix.netcom.com>

    Indeed great news. If the address is a walk in store they are still 
accessible although further away from me than the original.

On 10/16/2023 7:25 AM, Paul Heller wrote:
> Great news!
> 
> Paul
> W2TTY
> 
> ITTY: HTTP://INTERNET-TTY.NET:8000/ITTY <HTTP://internet-tty.net:8000/ITTY>
> ITTY 100: HTTP://INTERNET-TTY.NET:8010/ITTY100
> AUTOSTART: HTTP://INTERNET-TTY.NET:8030/AUTOSTART 
> <HTTP://internet-tty.net:8030/AUTOSTART>
> EUROPE: HTTP://INTERNET-TTY.NET:8040/EUROPE 
> <HTTP://internet-tty.net:8040/EUROPE>
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2023, at 2:30?PM, til128 at juno.com wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> Hi all:
>> For those who have used All Electronics,you know they have closed.
>> However some good news,?their employees have started a new business: 
>> https://aretronics.com/ <https://aretronics.com/>?that looks about the 
>> same.
>> Tom T


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From w9ddd at tapr.org  Mon Oct 16 18:18:45 2023
From: w9ddd at tapr.org (John)
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 17:18:45 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] 28 RO base
Message-ID: <CF5B9A34-4FDA-40F3-A7F9-427ABD3256BD@tapr.org>

Anyone have an extra.  I don't need motor, connector or intermediate gears assembly.  Basically to be used as a test base.

John, W9DDD

From tomhenryhunter at gmail.com  Tue Oct 17 09:53:16 2023
From: tomhenryhunter at gmail.com (Tom Hunter)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 09:53:16 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] How I shoot a blown fuse
Message-ID: <CAJK8693kwc7j+T1oqz7fNdt6RsX_1ksb5uNcidkGNDEjKLCsSA@mail.gmail.com>

I am overstocked on IEC cords. (01)

I cut the female end off and use them for line cords. The stripped outer
jacket goes into my spaghetti stash. Note that the wires are only soldered
at the very tip to keep them from unraveling Do not tin the whole end of
the wire. Solder: "cold flows". That means it flows like water but very,
very slowly. If you tin the whole thing and tighten down a screw on it, in
a year or two the solder will flow out and you will have a loose
connection. (02)

The next step is to break the breakaway connections on both sides of a
duplex outlet to form two completely separate outlets.

Connect the line cord as shown - hot to a switch - Neutral and ground to
the bottom outlet. (03)

Add a jumper from the switch to the hot side of the top outlet and a jumper
from the neutral side of the top outlet to the hot side of the bottom
outlet. (04)

Mount it in an electrical box . This is one of mine above the workbench
(05).

 I have a selection of light bulbs to use in series with the test (Bottom)
outlet.  (06).

I select the largest one that will not blow the fuse in the item under
test. It will light brightly if the short still exists without blowing
another fuse. flipping the switch off removes all power while you try to
locate the short. Flip the switch on to test - a bright light indicates you
have not fixed it. A dim light means you probably found the short.

Each  bulb is ready to plug in the top outlet. (07)

To rate each bulb I use a kill A Watt from Harbor Freight. You will fine
many other uses for it too. (08).
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From w9ddd at tapr.org  Wed Oct 18 11:39:54 2023
From: w9ddd at tapr.org (John, W9DDD)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 10:39:54 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] 3 steps forward, one step back 28 KSR
Message-ID: <06d8cbfe-f371-e8ff-3db2-161198829b6d@tapr.org>

After removing vestiges of WU, stripping off the hard plastic tubing on 
the cable and putting on the spiral wrap replacement (pictures 
available) it was time to move the keyboard and printer into their new home.

Ah nuts it runs open.    Aha, this keyboard has no break key, therefore 
needs a jumper between C10 and C11.  Install the jumper.

Ready for typing to myself.   Not so fast. It cycles, the type box 
clutch triggers, but type box isn't positioning to a letter and it's not 
spacing.  Code bars aren't moving back and forth on RY.  In fact no key 
press moves them.

I see the selector armature moving but the push levers and therefore 
transfer levers aren't moving.  Selecting levers seem to be moving as 
they ride up on the cam surfaces.  What the heck could have changed from 
moving the the keyboard and printer from one cabinet to the other.

Of course this involved taking the printer off the keyboard during the 
move, but I didn't bump or drop anything in the process.

Having had it bolted down before the move, I naturally put the screws 
back in after the move.  (Do ones hands get bigger as you age?  I don't 
recall having as much 'fun' getting the screws back in the previous time 
a couple of years ago.)

Now I guess I'll have to remove the printer again and put it on 'the 
test stand' so I can see what isn't happening.  Unless someone has a 
better idea.

One other thought,  I had been maybe 6 months without running before I 
moved it.  It probably would have been prudent to have test run before 
moving it?

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The above comments or recommendations are SWAG. Use at your own risk.

John, W9DDD


From w9ddd at tapr.org  Thu Oct 19 11:41:38 2023
From: w9ddd at tapr.org (John, W9DDD)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 10:41:38 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] WTD 195442 OR 195443 Modification Kit
Message-ID: <b9803410-d06d-ae33-3760-8d682c73e6b0@tapr.org>

That would be the 3 speed kit for the standalone LXD 28TD, hey I can 
dream can't I?

Also looking for any kind of junker base, RO or keyboard

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You said "tomorrow" yesterday.

The above comments or recommendations are SWAG. Use at your own risk.
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From tomhenryhunter at gmail.com  Fri Oct 20 09:56:00 2023
From: tomhenryhunter at gmail.com (Tom Hunter)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 09:56:00 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Military Line Cord
Message-ID: <CAJK8693THwJsTLH6RrRu4m3z3+TRDOuEZ+Dd07cSx1meJ2iLiQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have four units that use the same line cord and only one cord - two
military Dovetrons and two CV-483/URA-17.

If I can get the connectors, I don't mind making up the cables. I make
special cables almost every day.

My question is what is the cord connector called and where can I buy them,
preferably with PayPal?

I have one shell so I only need the female insert for that plus two
complete connectors.

Enclosed are photos of the chassis end and the line cord end.


Tom   N3CRK
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From scottjohnson1 at cox.net  Fri Oct 20 12:16:37 2023
From: scottjohnson1 at cox.net (scottjohnson1 at cox.net)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 09:16:37 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Military Line Cord
In-Reply-To: <CAJK8693THwJsTLH6RrRu4m3z3+TRDOuEZ+Dd07cSx1meJ2iLiQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <03b301da0370$ce3066f0$6a9134d0$@cox.net>

MS3106A-14S-7S, William Perry, or Mouser/ Digi-Key, or search eBay.

The prefix could also be PT, and it could be 3106A, or 3106E, contact arrangement and size is indicated on the insert.

 

 

Regards,

Scott W7SVJ

 

 

From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net <greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Tom Hunter
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 06:56
To: GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [GreenKeys] Military Line Cord

 

I have four units that use the same line cord and only one cord - two military Dovetrons and two CV-483/URA-17.

 

If I can get the connectors, I don't mind making up the cables. I make special cables almost every day.

 

My question is what is the cord connector called and where can I buy them, preferably with PayPal?

 

I have one shell so I only need the female insert for that plus two complete connectors.

 

Enclosed are photos of the chassis end and the line cord end.

 

 

Tom   N3CRK

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From VE3PIE at outlook.com  Fri Oct 20 13:50:10 2023
From: VE3PIE at outlook.com (Fred Weksberg)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 17:50:10 +0000
Subject: [GreenKeys] Siemens T-1000Z - broken wire cable
Message-ID: <DM6PR02MB60749E52AFB16DFD6D77736C80DBA@DM6PR02MB6074.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

I am trying to restore a Siemens T-1000Z.
The printhead slides on a carriage bar, and uses a thin metal cable to pull the printhead from side to side.
The cable is broken, and I don't know how to replace it.
Where can I get this cable ?
Are there any diagrams on how to restring this cable ?
Thanks, Fred VE3WN
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From w9ddd at tapr.org  Fri Oct 20 13:54:33 2023
From: w9ddd at tapr.org (John)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 12:54:33 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] Siemens T-1000Z - broken wire cable
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR02MB60749E52AFB16DFD6D77736C80DBA@DM6PR02MB6074.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
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Is this like the cable on the M28 printer?

John, W9DDD

> On Oct 20, 2023, at 12:50 PM, Fred Weksberg <VE3PIE at outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> I am trying to restore a Siemens T-1000Z.
> The printhead slides on a carriage bar, and uses a thin metal cable to pull the printhead from side to side.
> The cable is broken, and I don't know how to replace it.
> Where can I get this cable ?
> Are there any diagrams on how to restring this cable ? 
> Thanks, Fred VE3WN
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From jeffg at junknet.net  Fri Oct 20 18:49:16 2023
From: jeffg at junknet.net (Jeffrey Golas)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 18:49:16 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Military Line Cord
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Message-ID: <C4B29675-0596-4E19-AE28-9EC5EB1E1981@junknet.net>

You may need a very good magnifer, but look at the brim of the plug and it'll have a part number on it. Chances are that number has been deprecated but you should be able to cross reference it.

If you cant find it, Ill get one tomorrow if I make it to the ship, I actually need to jot it down anyway.

If you want a bandaid, I believe I used female molex .084 pins and they fit snug. Just shrink wrap them.

Jeff



> On Oct 20, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Tom Hunter <tomhenryhunter at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I have four units that use the same line cord and only one cord - two military Dovetrons and two CV-483/URA-17.
> 
> If I can get the connectors, I don't mind making up the cables. I make special cables almost every day.
> 
> My question is what is the cord connector called and where can I buy them, preferably with PayPal?
> 
> I have one shell so I only need the female insert for that plus two complete connectors.
> 
> Enclosed are photos of the chassis end and the line cord end.
> 
> 
> Tom   N3CRK
> <Chassis.jpg>
> <Cord.jpg>
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From smithab11 at comcast.net  Fri Oct 20 18:51:40 2023
From: smithab11 at comcast.net (B. Smith)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 18:51:40 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Military Line Cord
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From tomhenryhunter at gmail.com  Fri Oct 20 19:00:44 2023
From: tomhenryhunter at gmail.com (Tom Hunter)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 19:00:44 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Military Line Cord
Message-ID: <CAJK8691ARrxXLzs018pahtmi=_DnVYukgU_84CwMdMHFVuAR3g@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks all for the suggestions. One kind Greenkeyer is selling me one for a
reasonable price.

I checked my stash and found five good connector shells. I have ordered two
14S inserts from Amazon for about 8 bucks.

That will leave a couple shells for the audio in and loop out connections
on one CV-483.

Neither 483 works. They both have to go on the bench.

Right now I am still waiting for ICs for one military Dovetron and I may
have to pull my civilian unit back on the bench. The signal loss light
constantly flashes so it will not print. I learned a lot about the signal
loss circuit from, my other military unit.

I also have a Flesher TU-300 on the bench. It is OK. I need to make up the
'scope cables and check all the filters. It will print as as is through a
polar relay on the RS-232 output.

I have a cheat sheet for the connections to the TU-300 if anyone needs it.


Tom   N3CRK
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From jeffg at junknet.net  Fri Oct 20 19:58:26 2023
From: jeffg at junknet.net (Jeffrey Golas)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 19:58:26 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Military Line Cord
Message-ID: <42652C93-CA1B-441A-9F1D-AE0919B80660@junknet.net>

I have a set of ura-17s from the ship I had on the bench but these are the next newer version. Every single electrolytic capacitor except the power supply (oddly) were completely bad. They are very complex and I was struggling to dial the first one in, yet somehow I got it working ok. The manuals just seem to skip steps or something. Recapping wasnt too bad as theres not a ton of caps. 

The ones I use on the ship likely need help too, they dont squelch out (lack of rtty signal just prints gibberish unless I turn input gain to nearly nothing) but otherwise seem to copy ok.


Jeff



> On Oct 20, 2023, at 7:00 PM, Tom Hunter <tomhenryhunter at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Thanks all for the suggestions. One kind Greenkeyer is selling me one for a reasonable price.
> 
> I checked my stash and found five good connector shells. I have ordered two 14S inserts from Amazon for about 8 bucks.
> 
> That will leave a couple shells for the audio in and loop out connections on one CV-483.
> 
> Neither 483 works. They both have to go on the bench.
> 
> Right now I am still waiting for ICs for one military Dovetron and I may have to pull my civilian unit back on the bench. The signal loss light constantly flashes so it will not print. I learned a lot about the signal loss circuit from, my other military unit. 
> 
> I also have a Flesher TU-300 on the bench. It is OK. I need to make up the 'scope cables and check all the filters. It will print as as is through a polar relay on the RS-232 output.
> 
> I have a cheat sheet for the connections to the TU-300 if anyone needs it.
> 
> 
> Tom   N3CRK
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From jeffg at junknet.net  Fri Oct 20 20:36:58 2023
From: jeffg at junknet.net (Jeffrey Golas)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 20:36:58 -0400
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From djones at k6yic.com  Fri Oct 20 20:41:47 2023
From: djones at k6yic.com (Daniel Jones)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 17:41:47 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Military Line Cord
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Go a few pages (page 12 and 16) in on this and it gives you the needed connectors.  https://www.navy-radio.com/manuals/URA17.PDF



Call William Perry (Or Email) wapco99 at gmail.com <mailto:wapco99 at gmail.com>






Daniel Jones (K6YIC)
DJones at k6yic.com
http://K6YIC.com
HH Phone #11973

?

> On Oct 20, 2023, at 17:36, Jeffrey Golas <jeffg at junknet.net> wrote:
> 
> Going through my bag I think I found the audio connector, an Amphenol male 14s-7, with a Cannon 97-3057-6 strain relief.
> 
> https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amphenol-industrial-operations/97-3106A-14S-7P/2510034
> 
> Jeff
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2023, at 7:00 PM, Tom Hunter <tomhenryhunter at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> Thanks all for the suggestions. One kind Greenkeyer is selling me one for a reasonable price.
>> 
>> I checked my stash and found five good connector shells. I have ordered two 14S inserts from Amazon for about 8 bucks.
>> 
>> That will leave a couple shells for the audio in and loop out connections on one CV-483.
>> 
>> Neither 483 works. They both have to go on the bench.
>> 
>> Right now I am still waiting for ICs for one military Dovetron and I may have to pull my civilian unit back on the bench. The signal loss light constantly flashes so it will not print. I learned a lot about the signal loss circuit from, my other military unit.
>> 
>> I also have a Flesher TU-300 on the bench. It is OK. I need to make up the 'scope cables and check all the filters. It will print as as is through a polar relay on the RS-232 output.
>> 
>> I have a cheat sheet for the connections to the TU-300 if anyone needs it.
>> 
>> 
>> Tom   N3CRK
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> GreenKeys mailing list
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>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
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>>>>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool: https://teletype.net/gksearch
>>>>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>>>>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
>>>>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool: http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
>> 
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From djones at k6yic.com  Fri Oct 20 20:47:17 2023
From: djones at k6yic.com (Daniel Jones)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 17:47:17 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Military Line Cord
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	<610A5530-FAF6-498D-B424-FAA6122EE767@k6yic.com>
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Actually Page 25 gives you everything you need to verify the proper plug. 




Daniel Jones (K6YIC)
DJones at k6yic.com
http://K6YIC.com
HH Phone #11973

?

> On Oct 20, 2023, at 17:41, Daniel Jones <djones at k6yic.com> wrote:
> 
> Go a few pages (page 12 and 16) in on this and it gives you the needed connectors.  https://www.navy-radio.com/manuals/URA17.PDF
> 
> 
> 
> Call William Perry (Or Email) wapco99 at gmail.com <mailto:wapco99 at gmail.com>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Daniel Jones (K6YIC)
> DJones at k6yic.com
> http://K6YIC.com
> HH Phone #11973
> 
> <PastedGraphic-2.tiff>
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2023, at 17:36, Jeffrey Golas <jeffg at junknet.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Going through my bag I think I found the audio connector, an Amphenol male 14s-7, with a Cannon 97-3057-6 strain relief.
>> 
>> https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amphenol-industrial-operations/97-3106A-14S-7P/2510034
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2023, at 7:00 PM, Tom Hunter <tomhenryhunter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> Thanks all for the suggestions. One kind Greenkeyer is selling me one for a reasonable price.
>>> 
>>> I checked my stash and found five good connector shells. I have ordered two 14S inserts from Amazon for about 8 bucks.
>>> 
>>> That will leave a couple shells for the audio in and loop out connections on one CV-483.
>>> 
>>> Neither 483 works. They both have to go on the bench.
>>> 
>>> Right now I am still waiting for ICs for one military Dovetron and I may have to pull my civilian unit back on the bench. The signal loss light constantly flashes so it will not print. I learned a lot about the signal loss circuit from, my other military unit.
>>> 
>>> I also have a Flesher TU-300 on the bench. It is OK. I need to make up the 'scope cables and check all the filters. It will print as as is through a polar relay on the RS-232 output.
>>> 
>>> I have a cheat sheet for the connections to the TU-300 if anyone needs it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tom   N3CRK
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> GreenKeys mailing list
>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeys
>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>> Post: mailto:GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net
>>> 
>>>>>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool: https://teletype.net/gksearch
>>>>>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>>>>>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
>>>>>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool: http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
>>> 
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>>>>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
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From navy.radio at gmail.com  Sat Oct 21 13:49:32 2023
From: navy.radio at gmail.com (Nick England)
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 13:49:32 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Flesher TUs on eBay
Message-ID: <CAB55hNeLvnoQjkGVVChTJQ6Un4kXU-xNPjqsuO_gaKBcEZNNsw@mail.gmail.com>

Flesher TU-300 and TU-470
I know nothing more - Not mine, etc.
Unbid at $0.99 - ending tomorrow.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/305206749624

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From js at teletype.net  Sun Oct 22 01:35:37 2023
From: js at teletype.net (Jordan Spencer Cunningham)
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 23:35:37 -0600
Subject: [GreenKeys] 2023 Halloween Story Brodcastapalooza
Message-ID: <50c26a46-a749-4438-aa11-3e0b266f0e40@app.fastmail.com>

It's that time of year again where a spooky story is broadcast for your Halloween enjoyment, only this year is special.

In celebration of the fifth year this tradition has been running (and since last year's technical difficulties made it impossible for most people to copy the broadcast), this year I'll be broadcasting a total of five stories: two new stories (meant to have debuted last year) preceded by the first three stories from 2019, 2020, and 2021, hence earning the title of BROADCASTAPALOOZA. This promises over five hours of pure TELETYTAINMENT.

The schedule will be as follows on October 31, times all in MDT:

13:00 - *War of the Worlds* - based on the infamous 1938 radio broadcast by Orson Welles
14:30 - *I Am Legend* - based on the novel by Richard Matheson
16:15 - *Lunatic* - an original space horror*
17:15 - *Beelzebub the Bull* - an original bloodcurdling bovine bulletin*
17:45 - *Cain & Abel *- an original terrifying tale of teletypery

(An asterisk indicates a story that includes an original pix at the end. No overstrike.)

Use the standard 2125 mark, 2295 space. If you're set up to use ITTY, you needn't change any of your configurations except to point to the following URL: http://tty.nerdology.org:8080/halloween. Note that you'll see a 404 error at this URL until 15 - 30 minutes before the broadcast starts.

A brief test sequence will be sent promptly at the beginning of each story's scheduled time, followed by the story in earnest.

There will be a brief silence (5 - 10 minutes) after each story until the time the subsequent story is scheduled to begin.

Some of these stories originally included delays in between each message to add a sense of realism to the broadcast, as if the messages were being sent by the characters themselves as the events were unfolding. This time all messages within a given story will be sent without any delay. What is sacrificed for that bit of realism will be gained in maximum convenience.

So be sure to tune in for a good ol' spooky time on Halloween!

-
Jordan Spencer Cunningham
teletype.net | GreenKeys Search Engine: teletype.net/gksearch
SMS via teletype: 385-308-4898 | Email via teletype: tty at nerdology.org
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From deramp5113 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 22 09:14:11 2023
From: deramp5113 at yahoo.com (Mike Douglas)
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2023 08:14:11 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] 2023 Halloween Story Brodcastapalooza
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From ve6bgt at gmail.com  Mon Oct 23 11:38:11 2023
From: ve6bgt at gmail.com (Skip Macaulay)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 09:38:11 -0600
Subject: [GreenKeys] 2023 Halloween Story Brodcastapalooza
In-Reply-To: <50c26a46-a749-4438-aa11-3e0b266f0e40@app.fastmail.com>
References: <50c26a46-a749-4438-aa11-3e0b266f0e40@app.fastmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAm=MFa3MnCyRvsgyJEQLhvvdEGLjtfGEA1azNvhbCjDmszFXw@mail.gmail.com>

Wow that's going to take a lot of TTY paper !!  Ha ha..  Skip

Skip MacAulay
VE6BGT

On Sat, Oct 21, 2023, 11:36 PM Jordan Spencer Cunningham, <js at teletype.net>
wrote:

> It's that time of year again where a spooky story is broadcast for your
> Halloween enjoyment, only this year is special.
>
> In celebration of the fifth year this tradition has been running (and
> since last year's technical difficulties made it impossible for most people
> to copy the broadcast), this year I'll be broadcasting a total of five
> stories: two new stories (meant to have debuted last year) preceded by the
> first three stories from 2019, 2020, and 2021, hence earning the title of
> BROADCASTAPALOOZA. This promises over five hours of pure TELETYTAINMENT.
>
> The schedule will be as follows on October 31, times all in MDT:
>
> 13:00 - *War of the Worlds* - based on the infamous 1938 radio broadcast
> by Orson Welles
> 14:30 - *I Am Legend* - based on the novel by Richard Matheson
> 16:15 - *Lunatic* - an original space horror*
> 17:15 - *Beelzebub the Bull* - an original bloodcurdling bovine bulletin*
> 17:45 - *Cain & Abel *- an original terrifying tale of teletypery
>
> (An asterisk indicates a story that includes an original pix at the end.
> No overstrike.)
>
> Use the standard 2125 mark, 2295 space. If you're set up to use ITTY, you
> needn't change any of your configurations except to point to the following
> URL: http://tty.nerdology.org:8080/halloween. Note that you'll see a 404
> error at this URL until 15 - 30 minutes before the broadcast starts.
>
> A brief test sequence will be sent promptly at the beginning of each
> story's scheduled time, followed by the story in earnest.
>
> There will be a brief silence (5 - 10 minutes) after each story until the
> time the subsequent story is scheduled to begin.
>
> Some of these stories originally included delays in between each message
> to add a sense of realism to the broadcast, as if the messages were being
> sent by the characters themselves as the events were unfolding. This time
> all messages within a given story will be sent without any delay. What is
> sacrificed for that bit of realism will be gained in maximum convenience.
>
> So be sure to tune in for a good ol' spooky time on Halloween!
>
> -
> Jordan Spencer Cunningham
> teletype.net | GreenKeys Search Engine: teletype.net/gksearch
> SMS via teletype: 385-308-4898 | Email via teletype: tty at nerdology.org
>
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> https://teletype.net/gksearch
> >>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive:
> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
> >>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:
> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
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> http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
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From david.corbin at dynconcepts.com  Mon Oct 23 12:19:48 2023
From: david.corbin at dynconcepts.com (David V. Corbin)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 16:19:48 +0000
Subject: [GreenKeys] 2023 Halloween Story Brodcastapalooza
In-Reply-To: <CAAm=MFa3MnCyRvsgyJEQLhvvdEGLjtfGEA1azNvhbCjDmszFXw@mail.gmail.com>
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Enable the paper tape punch!!!! See how many feet long the broadcast is?..

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________________________________
From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net <greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Skip Macaulay <ve6bgt at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 11:38:11 AM
To: Jordan Spencer Cunningham <js at teletype.net>
Cc: GreenKeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] 2023 Halloween Story Brodcastapalooza

Wow that's going to take a lot of TTY paper !!  Ha ha..  Skip

Skip MacAulay
VE6BGT

On Sat, Oct 21, 2023, 11:36 PM Jordan Spencer Cunningham, <js at teletype.net<mailto:js at teletype.net>> wrote:
It's that time of year again where a spooky story is broadcast for your Halloween enjoyment, only this year is special.

In celebration of the fifth year this tradition has been running (and since last year's technical difficulties made it impossible for most people to copy the broadcast), this year I'll be broadcasting a total of five stories: two new stories (meant to have debuted last year) preceded by the first three stories from 2019, 2020, and 2021, hence earning the title of BROADCASTAPALOOZA. This promises over five hours of pure TELETYTAINMENT.

The schedule will be as follows on October 31, times all in MDT:

13:00 - War of the Worlds - based on the infamous 1938 radio broadcast by Orson Welles
14:30 - I Am Legend - based on the novel by Richard Matheson
16:15 - Lunatic - an original space horror*
17:15 - Beelzebub the Bull - an original bloodcurdling bovine bulletin*
17:45 - Cain & Abel - an original terrifying tale of teletypery

(An asterisk indicates a story that includes an original pix at the end. No overstrike.)

Use the standard 2125 mark, 2295 space. If you're set up to use ITTY, you needn't change any of your configurations except to point to the following URL: http://tty.nerdology.org:8080/halloween. Note that you'll see a 404 error at this URL until 15 - 30 minutes before the broadcast starts.

A brief test sequence will be sent promptly at the beginning of each story's scheduled time, followed by the story in earnest.

There will be a brief silence (5 - 10 minutes) after each story until the time the subsequent story is scheduled to begin.

Some of these stories originally included delays in between each message to add a sense of realism to the broadcast, as if the messages were being sent by the characters themselves as the events were unfolding. This time all messages within a given story will be sent without any delay. What is sacrificed for that bit of realism will be gained in maximum convenience.

So be sure to tune in for a good ol' spooky time on Halloween!

-
Jordan Spencer Cunningham
teletype.net<https://teletype.net> | GreenKeys Search Engine: teletype.net/gksearch<https://teletype.net/gksearch>
SMS via teletype: 385-308-4898 | Email via teletype: tty at nerdology.org<mailto:tty at nerdology.org>

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From ve6bgt at gmail.com  Mon Oct 23 12:24:49 2023
From: ve6bgt at gmail.com (Skip Macaulay)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 10:24:49 -0600
Subject: [GreenKeys] 2023 Halloween Story Brodcastapalooza
In-Reply-To: <CO1P222MB0356459DF93C19AA7E102C779ED8A@CO1P222MB0356.NAMP222.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <50c26a46-a749-4438-aa11-3e0b266f0e40@app.fastmail.com>
	<CAAm=MFa3MnCyRvsgyJEQLhvvdEGLjtfGEA1azNvhbCjDmszFXw@mail.gmail.com>
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I dont think I have enough paper tape either!!!    Skip

Skip MacAulay
VE6BGT

On Mon, Oct 23, 2023, 10:19 AM David V. Corbin, <
david.corbin at dynconcepts.com> wrote:

> Enable the paper tape punch!!!! See how many feet long the broadcast is?..
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net <
> greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Skip Macaulay <
> ve6bgt at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 23, 2023 11:38:11 AM
> *To:* Jordan Spencer Cunningham <js at teletype.net>
> *Cc:* GreenKeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [GreenKeys] 2023 Halloween Story Brodcastapalooza
>
> Wow that's going to take a lot of TTY paper !!  Ha ha..  Skip
>
> Skip MacAulay
> VE6BGT
>
> On Sat, Oct 21, 2023, 11:36 PM Jordan Spencer Cunningham, <js at teletype.net>
> wrote:
>
> It's that time of year again where a spooky story is broadcast for your
> Halloween enjoyment, only this year is special.
>
> In celebration of the fifth year this tradition has been running (and
> since last year's technical difficulties made it impossible for most people
> to copy the broadcast), this year I'll be broadcasting a total of five
> stories: two new stories (meant to have debuted last year) preceded by the
> first three stories from 2019, 2020, and 2021, hence earning the title of
> BROADCASTAPALOOZA. This promises over five hours of pure TELETYTAINMENT.
>
> The schedule will be as follows on October 31, times all in MDT:
>
> 13:00 - *War of the Worlds* - based on the infamous 1938 radio broadcast
> by Orson Welles
> 14:30 - *I Am Legend* - based on the novel by Richard Matheson
> 16:15 - *Lunatic* - an original space horror*
> 17:15 - *Beelzebub the Bull* - an original bloodcurdling bovine bulletin*
> 17:45 - *Cain & Abel *- an original terrifying tale of teletypery
>
> (An asterisk indicates a story that includes an original pix at the end.
> No overstrike.)
>
> Use the standard 2125 mark, 2295 space. If you're set up to use ITTY, you
> needn't change any of your configurations except to point to the following
> URL: http://tty.nerdology.org:8080/halloween. Note that you'll see a 404
> error at this URL until 15 - 30 minutes before the broadcast starts.
>
> A brief test sequence will be sent promptly at the beginning of each
> story's scheduled time, followed by the story in earnest.
>
> There will be a brief silence (5 - 10 minutes) after each story until the
> time the subsequent story is scheduled to begin.
>
> Some of these stories originally included delays in between each message
> to add a sense of realism to the broadcast, as if the messages were being
> sent by the characters themselves as the events were unfolding. This time
> all messages within a given story will be sent without any delay. What is
> sacrificed for that bit of realism will be gained in maximum convenience.
>
> So be sure to tune in for a good ol' spooky time on Halloween!
>
> -
> Jordan Spencer Cunningham
> teletype.net | GreenKeys Search Engine: teletype.net/gksearch
> SMS via teletype: 385-308-4898 | Email via teletype: tty at nerdology.org
>
> ______________________________________________________________
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>
> >>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool:
> https://teletype.net/gksearch
> >>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive:
> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
> >>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:
> http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
> >>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool:
> http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html
>
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
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From til128 at juno.com  Mon Oct 23 12:54:18 2023
From: til128 at juno.com (til128 at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 16:54:18 GMT
Subject: [GreenKeys] 2023 Halloween Story Brodcastapalooza
Message-ID: <20231023.125418.3881.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com>

This is why I prefer pin feed. Available and "relatively" cheap. Tom T

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Skip Macaulay <ve6bgt at gmail.com>
To: Jordan Spencer Cunningham <js at teletype.net>
Cc: GreenKeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] 2023 Halloween Story Brodcastapalooza
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 09:38:11 -0600


Wow that's going to take a lot of TTY paper !!  Ha ha..  Skip

Skip MacAulay
VE6BGT 
On Sat, Oct 21, 2023, 11:36 PM Jordan Spencer Cunningham, <js at teletype.net> wrote:It's that time of year again where a spooky story is broadcast for your Halloween enjoyment, only this year is special. In celebration of the fifth year this tradition has been running (and since last year's technical difficulties made it impossible for most people to copy the broadcast), this year I'll be broadcasting a total of five stories: two new stories (meant to have debuted last year) preceded by the first three stories from 2019, 2020, and 2021, hence earning the title of BROADCASTAPALOOZA. This promises over five hours of pure TELETYTAINMENT. The schedule will be as follows on October 31, times all in MDT: 13:00 - War of the Worlds - based on the infamous 1938 radio broadcast by Orson Welles14:30 - I Am Legend - based on the novel by Richard Matheson16:15 - Lunatic - an original space horror*17:15 - Beelzebub the Bull - an original bloodcurdling bovine bulletin*17:45 - Cain & Abel - an original terrifying tale of teletypery (An asterisk indicates a story that includes an original pix at the end. No overstrike.) Use the standard 2125 mark, 2295 space. If you're set up to use ITTY, you needn't change any of your configurations except to point to the following URL: http://tty.nerdology.org:8080/halloween. Note that you'll see a 404 error at this URL until 15 - 30 minutes before the broadcast starts. A brief test sequence will be sent promptly at the beginning of each story's scheduled time, followed by the story in earnest. There will be a brief silence (5 - 10 minutes) after each story until the time the subsequent story is scheduled to begin. Some of these stories originally included delays in between each message to add a sense of realism to the broadcast, as if the messages were being sent by the characters themselves as the events were unfolding. This time all messages within a given story will be sent without any delay. What is sacrificed for that bit of realism will be gained in maximum convenience. So be sure to tune in for a good ol' spooky time on Halloween! -Jordan Spencer Cunninghamteletype.net | GreenKeys Search Engine: teletype.net/gksearchSMS via teletype: 385-308-4898 | Email via teletype: tty at nerdology.org ______________________________________________________________
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From david.corbin at dynconcepts.com  Mon Oct 23 12:58:28 2023
From: david.corbin at dynconcepts.com (David V. Corbin)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 16:58:28 +0000
Subject: [GreenKeys] 2023 Halloween Story Brodcastapalooza
In-Reply-To: <20231023.125418.3881.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com>
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I have one oiin feed 33; came from western union; in pretty bad shape (including broken belts?but I have not been able to find the right width (8.5? including pinfeed)?.

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________________________________
From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net <greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of til128 at juno.com <til128 at juno.com>
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 12:54:18 PM
To: ve6bgt at gmail.com <ve6bgt at gmail.com>
Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] 2023 Halloween Story Brodcastapalooza

This is why I prefer pin feed. Available and "relatively" cheap.

Tom T


---------- Original Message ----------
From: Skip Macaulay <ve6bgt at gmail.com>
To: Jordan Spencer Cunningham <js at teletype.net>
Cc: GreenKeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] 2023 Halloween Story Brodcastapalooza
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 09:38:11 -0600


Wow that's going to take a lot of TTY paper !!  Ha ha..  Skip

Skip MacAulay
VE6BGT



On Sat, Oct 21, 2023, 11:36 PM Jordan Spencer Cunningham, <js at teletype.net<mailto:js at teletype.net>> wrote:
It's that time of year again where a spooky story is broadcast for your Halloween enjoyment, only this year is special.

In celebration of the fifth year this tradition has been running (and since last year's technical difficulties made it impossible for most people to copy the broadcast), this year I'll be broadcasting a total of five stories: two new stories (meant to have debuted last year) preceded by the first three stories from 2019, 2020, and 2021, hence earning the title of BROADCASTAPALOOZA. This promises over five hours of pure TELETYTAINMENT.

The schedule will be as follows on October 31, times all in MDT:

13:00 - War of the Worlds - based on the infamous 1938 radio broadcast by Orson Welles
14:30 - I Am Legend - based on the novel by Richard Matheson
16:15 - Lunatic - an original space horror*
17:15 - Beelzebub the Bull - an original bloodcurdling bovine bulletin*
17:45 - Cain & Abel - an original terrifying tale of teletypery

(An asterisk indicates a story that includes an original pix at the end. No overstrike.)

Use the standard 2125 mark, 2295 space. If you're set up to use ITTY, you needn't change any of your configurations except to point to the following URL: http://tty.nerdology.org:8080/halloween. Note that you'll see a 404 error at this URL until 15 - 30 minutes before the broadcast starts.

A brief test sequence will be sent promptly at the beginning of each story's scheduled time, followed by the story in earnest.

There will be a brief silence (5 - 10 minutes) after each story until the time the subsequent story is scheduled to begin.

Some of these stories originally included delays in between each message to add a sense of realism to the broadcast, as if the messages were being sent by the characters themselves as the events were unfolding. This time all messages within a given story will be sent without any delay. What is sacrificed for that bit of realism will be gained in maximum convenience.

So be sure to tune in for a good ol' spooky time on Halloween!

-
Jordan Spencer Cunningham
teletype.net<https://teletype.net> | GreenKeys Search Engine: teletype.net/gksearch<https://teletype.net/gksearch>
SMS via teletype: 385-308-4898 | Email via teletype: tty at nerdology.org<mailto:tty at nerdology.org>

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>>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
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From til128 at juno.com  Mon Oct 23 13:08:42 2023
From: til128 at juno.com (til128 at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 17:08:42 GMT
Subject: [GreenKeys] 2023 Halloween Story Brodcastapalooza
Message-ID: <20231023.130842.3881.1@webmail09.dca.untd.com>

If looking for sprocket feed paper, try the following: Lableoutfitters.com And search for:  811-0-B55 In the coupon area enter GOOGLE for 10% off. Tom T

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "David V. Corbin" <david.corbin at dynconcepts.com>
To: "til128 at juno.com" <til128 at juno.com>, "ve6bgt at gmail.com" <ve6bgt at gmail.com>
Cc: "greenkeys at mailman.qth.net" <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] 2023 Halloween Story Brodcastapalooza
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 16:58:28 +0000


I have one oiin feed 33; came from western union; in pretty bad shape (including broken belts&#65533;but I have not been able to find the right width (8.5&#65533; including pinfeed)&#65533;. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net <greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of til128 at juno.com <til128 at juno.com>
 Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 12:54:18 PM
 To: ve6bgt at gmail.com <ve6bgt at gmail.com>
 Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
 Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] 2023 Halloween Story Brodcastapalooza This is why I prefer pin feed. Available and "relatively" cheap. Tom T
 
 ---------- Original Message ----------
 From: Skip Macaulay <ve6bgt at gmail.com>
 To: Jordan Spencer Cunningham <js at teletype.net>
 Cc: GreenKeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
 Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] 2023 Halloween Story Brodcastapalooza
 Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 09:38:11 -0600
 
 
Wow that's going to take a lot of TTY paper !!  Ha ha..  Skip
 
Skip MacAulay
 VE6BGT 
On Sat, Oct 21, 2023, 11:36 PM Jordan Spencer Cunningham, <js at teletype.net> wrote:It's that time of year again where a spooky story is broadcast for your Halloween enjoyment, only this year is special. In celebration of the fifth year this tradition has been running (and since last year's technical difficulties made it impossible for most people to copy the broadcast), this year I'll be broadcasting a total of five stories: two new stories (meant to have debuted last year) preceded by the first three stories from 2019, 2020, and 2021, hence earning the title of BROADCASTAPALOOZA. This promises over five hours of pure TELETYTAINMENT. The schedule will be as follows on October 31, times all in MDT: 13:00 - War of the Worlds - based on the infamous 1938 radio broadcast by Orson Welles14:30 - I Am Legend - based on the novel by Richard Matheson16:15 - Lunatic - an original space horror*17:15 - Beelzebub the Bull - an original bloodcurdling bovine bulletin*17:45 - Cain & Abel - an original terrifying tale of teletypery (An asterisk indicates a story that includes an original pix at the end. No overstrike.) Use the standard 2125 mark, 2295 space. If you're set up to use ITTY, you needn't change any of your configurations except to point to the following URL:  http://tty.nerdology.org:8080/halloween. Note that you'll see a 404 error at this URL until 15 - 30 minutes before the broadcast starts. A brief test sequence will be sent promptly at the beginning of each story's scheduled time, followed by the story in earnest. There will be a brief silence (5 - 10 minutes) after each story until the time the subsequent story is scheduled to begin. Some of these stories originally included delays in between each message to add a sense of realism to the broadcast, as if the messages were being sent by the characters themselves as the events were unfolding. This time all messages within a given story will be sent without any delay. What is sacrificed for that bit of realism will be gained in maximum convenience. So be sure to tune in for a good ol' spooky time on Halloween! -Jordan Spencer Cunninghamteletype.net | GreenKeys Search Engine: teletype.net/gksearchSMS via teletype: 385-308-4898 | Email via teletype:  tty at nerdology.org ______________________________________________________________
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 >>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive:  http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
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From w9ddd at tapr.org  Sun Oct 29 12:42:11 2023
From: w9ddd at tapr.org (John)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 11:42:11 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] Strange CR problem M28
Message-ID: <62D29ECD-F2EC-4374-8986-F346426B82C8@tapr.org>

I thought I had the more often encountered problem of CR bounce. 
After some head scratching.  I examined print the out more closely.  QUICK is printed with the Q at the left margin.  THE is printed E H T where the E is overprinted on the Q.  

So it appear the last 1/2" inch or so of the return is slowed down.  That's about where the dashpot is engaged.  So at this point I've removed the ball and spring from the dashpot.  Still too much "braking" action.  

Removed dashpot, verified that all the ports are clear of any obstructions.  Cleaned the interior, but didn't use any solvent, maybe should have.  Replaced dashpot and nothing has changed.  I don't recall there's any lubricant indicated, but going to check those instructions.

I have checked the typebox track motion with the dashpot out of the picture and it slams the left margin as expected. 

I need some ideas on what to check next.

John, W9DDD

From dave.beck at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 29 16:50:55 2023
From: dave.beck at sbcglobal.net (Dave Beck)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 15:50:55 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] Itty help
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Message-ID: <91A65FE7-37EE-44AA-A569-3C15CFA8C1FB@sbcglobal.net>

Hello and help? Today I tried to setup mmty to copy itty and I can?t seem to get it to work. I got mmty to load ok, and I can hear itty sending through my laptop speaker but there seems to be no audio detected by mmty. The tuning fft is blank. There are however occasional garbage  characters printed on the screen. I downloaded Real audio but didn?t see any change although I?m not sure how that was going to help when I already hear the audio tones. 

Any thought on how to get audio into mmty?

Thanks for your suggestions. 

Next step after this is to connect the computer audio to my ST6 and/or IRL FSK-500 to get my model 15 going.

 I?m hoping to get something printing so I can receive the Halloween printouts. 

Dave Beck W9RAG

Sent from my iPhone

From djones at k6yic.com  Sun Oct 29 17:02:21 2023
From: djones at k6yic.com (Daniel Jones)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 14:02:21 -0700
Subject: [GreenKeys] Itty help
In-Reply-To: <91A65FE7-37EE-44AA-A569-3C15CFA8C1FB@sbcglobal.net>
References: <91A65FE7-37EE-44AA-A569-3C15CFA8C1FB@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1ACD4777-AF9D-478E-9846-0918141D1E3D@k6yic.com>

MMTY might not be able to detect a stream direct from a web-site.  I think it depends on the version of windows you are using.  You may have to jumper from the speaker out the microphone in.  The garble you might be seeing is MMtY detecting noises from the microphone. 

I am also not that familiar with MMTY as I use FLDIGI but I always use audio from the input on the computer.  

Daniel

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DJones at K6YIC.com
HH#11973

> On Oct 29, 2023, at 13:52, Dave Beck <dave.beck at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Hello and help? Today I tried to setup mmty to copy itty and I can?t seem to get it to work. I got mmty to load ok, and I can hear itty sending through my laptop speaker but there seems to be no audio detected by mmty. The tuning fft is blank. There are however occasional garbage  characters printed on the screen. I downloaded Real audio but didn?t see any change although I?m not sure how that was going to help when I already hear the audio tones.
> 
> Any thought on how to get audio into mmty?
> 
> Thanks for your suggestions.
> 
> Next step after this is to connect the computer audio to my ST6 and/or IRL FSK-500 to get my model 15 going.
> 
> I?m hoping to get something printing so I can receive the Halloween printouts.
> 
> Dave Beck W9RAG
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From john at tubetestingpros.com  Sun Oct 29 17:09:38 2023
From: john at tubetestingpros.com (John Lawson)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 21:09:38 +0000
Subject: [GreenKeys] Itty help
In-Reply-To: <1ACD4777-AF9D-478E-9846-0918141D1E3D@k6yic.com>
References: <91A65FE7-37EE-44AA-A569-3C15CFA8C1FB@sbcglobal.net>
	<1ACD4777-AF9D-478E-9846-0918141D1E3D@k6yic.com>
Message-ID: <CH3PR19MB79296DECAAF21AFD97155FA8D8A2A@CH3PR19MB7929.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

I have run into this.
Try Virtual Audio Cable:

https://vb-audio.com/Cable/

Works well across all my platforms.
Cheers
John KB6SCO

-----Original Message-----
From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net <greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Daniel Jones
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2023 2:02 PM
To: Dave Beck <dave.beck at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Itty help

MMTY might not be able to detect a stream direct from a web-site.  I think it depends on the version of windows you are using.  You may have to jumper from the speaker out the microphone in.  The garble you might be seeing is MMtY detecting noises from the microphone. 

I am also not that familiar with MMTY as I use FLDIGI but I always use audio from the input on the computer.  

Daniel

www.K6YIC.com
DJones at K6YIC.com
HH#11973

> On Oct 29, 2023, at 13:52, Dave Beck <dave.beck at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Hello and help? Today I tried to setup mmty to copy itty and I can?t seem to get it to work. I got mmty to load ok, and I can hear itty sending through my laptop speaker but there seems to be no audio detected by mmty. The tuning fft is blank. There are however occasional garbage  characters printed on the screen. I downloaded Real audio but didn?t see any change although I?m not sure how that was going to help when I already hear the audio tones.
> 
> Any thought on how to get audio into mmty?
> 
> Thanks for your suggestions.
> 
> Next step after this is to connect the computer audio to my ST6 and/or IRL FSK-500 to get my model 15 going.
> 
> I?m hoping to get something printing so I can receive the Halloween printouts.
> 
> Dave Beck W9RAG
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From tomhenryhunter at gmail.com  Sun Oct 29 17:56:54 2023
From: tomhenryhunter at gmail.com (Tom Hunter)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 17:56:54 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] MMTTY
Message-ID: <CAJK8692+nDyHntCE8JtuA+3fNdLjr4MHiE_ESvUQcY-9oPUk4A@mail.gmail.com>

Daniel,

I do it the crude way instead of installing still more software on my
computer.

I plug a stereo male-to-male cable into the earphone jack and the other end
into the line-in jack. Set MMTTY to line-in and enjoy.

I have been meaning to ask - is there a TTY computer program that will
access the audio out card directly?


Tom  N3CRK
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From tomhenryhunter at gmail.com  Sun Oct 29 18:04:05 2023
From: tomhenryhunter at gmail.com (Tom Hunter)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 18:04:05 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] 28 Dashpot
Message-ID: <CAJK8693VjQjvgER94E95GapF+ORu_eFH2QSKyKWQ+UtgoXy7jA@mail.gmail.com>

John,

 I had a very similar problem a couple years ago.

I seem to remember that the dashpot was a little bit askew.

It is worth checking.


Tom   N3CRK
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From tomhenryhunter at gmail.com  Sun Oct 29 18:07:19 2023
From: tomhenryhunter at gmail.com (Tom Hunter)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 18:07:19 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] MMTTY
Message-ID: <CAJK8692zvXQUw5t249NQXEqaVMbfXYtwjZ2HhNzTave+ZOvQiQ@mail.gmail.com>

I am sorry. I should have directed my reply to Dave Beck.

Yet another senior moment!


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From macbax1 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 29 20:09:36 2023
From: macbax1 at gmail.com (Joe Clanin)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 19:09:36 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] A Toolkit for Routine Maintenance of TT-98
Message-ID: <CAK1UwObArVM07eLwUr2EpB-kQEOFQfxX_Q7Pcxe7WN3q5iOCjQ@mail.gmail.com>

Some time ago, while getting one of my TT-98s up and running, I purchased a
canvas pouch and one of every tool I need for routine maintenance of the
machine going forward. I've attached a picture. So far it has worked out
well!

Note that lubrication tools are not included here, nor are non-routine
items like soldering supplies, meters, etc. Also, this machine in
particular has a governed motor (hence the tuning fork).

I look forward to comments and suggestions about what to add/remove.

-Joe
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From w9ddd at tapr.org  Sun Oct 29 23:03:38 2023
From: w9ddd at tapr.org (John, W9DDD)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 22:03:38 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] Strange CR problem M28
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To report back and to thank those who sent direct suggestions, here's 
the results.

Took the dash pot off again.? Looked closer at the interior. It's black 
inside, but smooth. The XYL being out of plain acetone and not knowing 
what vitamin E in what she had might do,? I opted for plain old rubbing 
alcohol.? I kept scrubbing until no more back came off of the interior 
of the dashpot.? Put a real thin coat of oil inside.? Partial reassembly 
gave me a chance to check it.? It showed signs of being a major 
improvement.? Screw #2 of the go-back-together phase decided to drop 
into the selector area.? So I finished with #3 and flipped the printer 
back on it's feet expecting the #2 to fall out on the table.? No such 
luck.? Flipped back upside down and got out the heavy duty light.? 
Eventually saw it and it was in needle nosed pliers reach.? Finished #2 
and then tried a manual CR without screw and ball.? Expected hard bang 
on left margin.? Put ball, spring and screw back it and it was so good I 
tightened the lock nut right away.

---
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You said "tomorrow" yesterday.

The above comments or recommendations are SWAG. Use at your own risk.
John, W9DDD

On 10/29/2023 11:42 AM, John wrote:
> I thought I had the more often encountered problem of CR bounce.
> After some head scratching.  I examined print the out more closely.  QUICK is printed with the Q at the left margin.  THE is printed E H T where the E is overprinted on the Q.
>
> So it appear the last 1/2" inch or so of the return is slowed down.  That's about where the dashpot is engaged.  So at this point I've removed the ball and spring from the dashpot.  Still too much "braking" action.
>
> Removed dashpot, verified that all the ports are clear of any obstructions.  Cleaned the interior, but didn't use any solvent, maybe should have.  Replaced dashpot and nothing has changed.  I don't recall there's any lubricant indicated, but going to check those instructions.
>
> I have checked the typebox track motion with the dashpot out of the picture and it slams the left margin as expected.
>
> I need some ideas on what to check next.
>
> John, W9DDD
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From w9ddd at tapr.org  Sun Oct 29 23:17:25 2023
From: w9ddd at tapr.org (John, W9DDD)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 22:17:25 -0500
Subject: [GreenKeys] Next problem
Message-ID: <c989adf5-8a74-452f-fa62-838b6b6da56b@tapr.org>

Having solved the CR problem, next one appears.

Sending a test (fox and ry) file through the Volpe board I get perfect 
print at 100 speed.? Again through the Volpe board but from the computer 
keyboard I get random extra characters.? Not really random, it's a 
repeat of the last keypress.? The line was in constant mark, so the 
selector wasn't tripping.? It was just printing what was still set up in 
the code bars. It's like something is tripping the typebox clutch, or it 
isn't getting stopped after the first character it's supposed to print.

I'll be off studying the adjustments section for typebox clutch.

-- 
---
----
You said "tomorrow" yesterday.

The above comments or recommendations are SWAG. Use at your own risk.
John, W9DDD


From duncanancy at earthlink.net  Mon Oct 30 08:34:55 2023
From: duncanancy at earthlink.net (Duncan Brown)
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2023 08:34:55 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] A Toolkit for Routine Maintenance of TT-98
In-Reply-To: <CAK1UwObArVM07eLwUr2EpB-kQEOFQfxX_Q7Pcxe7WN3q5iOCjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK1UwObArVM07eLwUr2EpB-kQEOFQfxX_Q7Pcxe7WN3q5iOCjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aae8b053-a057-4438-ab85-34c242d98cb3@earthlink.net>

Looks like the basics, Joe.

I think I would add a needle-nosed pliers.

have fun,

Duncan,
K2OEQ
31J30

On 29-Oct-23 20:09, Joe Clanin wrote:
> Some time ago, while getting one of my TT-98s up and running, I 
> purchased a canvas pouch and one of every tool I need for routine 
> maintenance of the machine going forward. I've attached a picture. So 
> far it has worked out well!
>
> Note that lubrication tools are not included here, nor are non-routine 
> items like soldering supplies, meters, etc. Also, this machine in 
> particular has a governed motor (hence the tuning fork).
>
> I look forward to comments and suggestions about what to add/remove.
>
> -Joe
>
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>>>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
>>>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html
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From tomhenryhunter at gmail.com  Mon Oct 30 14:54:33 2023
From: tomhenryhunter at gmail.com (Tom Hunter)
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2023 14:54:33 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] TTY Tools
Message-ID: <CAJK8692Dhks+CqMdKdVnufZioPOrJDHxkmAJVQxWjfKaym7H9g@mail.gmail.com>

Joe.

I keep all of my Teletype tools at both of my workstations (15 & 28) plus
virtually all of my small tools at all of my workbenches in silverware
trays. Everything is in plain sight and easy to grab.


Tom   N3CRK
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From js at teletype.net  Tue Oct 31 11:34:36 2023
From: js at teletype.net (Jordan Spencer Cunningham)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2023 09:34:36 -0600
Subject: [GreenKeys] 2023 Halloween Story Brodcastapalooza
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A reminder: 2023 Halloween Broadcastapalooza starts today at 13:00 MDT (full schedule in previous message, quoted below). Using the same setup you would for ITTY, you can start streaming from http://tty.nerdology.org:8080/halloween as early as roughly 12:30 - 12:45 MDT today (no signal until 13:00).

If you can't catch the entire broadcast or want to save on paper (it's a lot!), I'd recommend prioritizing the stories in this order; ones closer to the top of this list I think would be more enjoyable for teleprinter aficionados like ourselves:
 ? Cain & Abel (starts at 17:45 MDT)
 ? Lunatic (starts at 16:15 MDT)
 ? I Am Legend (starts at 14:30 MDT)
 ? War of the Worlds (starts at 13:00 MDT)
 ? Beelzebub the Bull (starts at 17:15 MDT)
Tune in when you can, and have a happy Halloween!

-
Jordan Spencer Cunningham
teletype.net | GreenKeys Search Engine: teletype.net/gksearch
SMS via teletype: 385-308-4898 | Email via teletype: tty at nerdology.org

On Sat, Oct 21, 2023, at 11:35 PM, Jordan Spencer Cunningham wrote:
> It's that time of year again where a spooky story is broadcast for your Halloween enjoyment, only this year is special.
> 
> In celebration of the fifth year this tradition has been running (and since last year's technical difficulties made it impossible for most people to copy the broadcast), this year I'll be broadcasting a total of five stories: two new stories (meant to have debuted last year) preceded by the first three stories from 2019, 2020, and 2021, hence earning the title of BROADCASTAPALOOZA. This promises over five hours of pure TELETYTAINMENT.
> 
> The schedule will be as follows on October 31, times all in MDT:
> 
> 13:00 - *War of the Worlds* - based on the infamous 1938 radio broadcast by Orson Welles
> 14:30 - *I Am Legend* - based on the novel by Richard Matheson
> 16:15 - *Lunatic* - an original space horror*
> 17:15 - *Beelzebub the Bull* - an original bloodcurdling bovine bulletin*
> 17:45 - *Cain & Abel *- an original terrifying tale of teletypery
> 
> (An asterisk indicates a story that includes an original pix at the end. No overstrike.)
> 
> Use the standard 2125 mark, 2295 space. If you're set up to use ITTY, you needn't change any of your configurations except to point to the following URL: http://tty.nerdology.org:8080/halloween. Note that you'll see a 404 error at this URL until 15 - 30 minutes before the broadcast starts.
> 
> A brief test sequence will be sent promptly at the beginning of each story's scheduled time, followed by the story in earnest.
> 
> There will be a brief silence (5 - 10 minutes) after each story until the time the subsequent story is scheduled to begin.
> 
> Some of these stories originally included delays in between each message to add a sense of realism to the broadcast, as if the messages were being sent by the characters themselves as the events were unfolding. This time all messages within a given story will be sent without any delay. What is sacrificed for that bit of realism will be gained in maximum convenience.
> 
> So be sure to tune in for a good ol' spooky time on Halloween!
> 
> -
> Jordan Spencer Cunningham
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> SMS via teletype: 385-308-4898 | Email via teletype: tty at nerdology.org
> 
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From smithab11 at comcast.net  Tue Oct 31 16:35:43 2023
From: smithab11 at comcast.net (B. Smith)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2023 16:35:43 -0400
Subject: [GreenKeys] Happy Halloween
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