From stewart at g3ysx.org.uk  Thu Jan  1 05:43:21 2009
From: stewart at g3ysx.org.uk (Stewart Bryant)
Date: Thu Jan  1 06:56:21 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] NTP software
In-Reply-To: <14350902.141230781381174.JavaMail.CARTMAN$@cartman>
References: <14350902.141230781381174.JavaMail.CARTMAN$@cartman>
Message-ID: <495C9E49.9040901@g3ysx.org.uk>

kg5nm@comcast.net wrote:
> NTP is not built into any Windows operating system.  Microsoft chose SNTP which is a very different solution to the operating system time problem.
> 

Are you sure?

This gives the history:

http://www.spectracomcorp.com/Support/Library/IntegrationGuides/SynchwithW32Time/tabid/164/Default.aspx

... and this seems to be definitive:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb490605.aspx

"Note that computers running Windows XP use the Network Time Protocol 
(NTP), while computers running Windows 2000 use the Simple Network Time 
Protocol (SNTP)."

There seems to be a number of other tech notes on the Microsoft site 
that suggest that they changed with the version of W32time that they
introduced with Windows server 2003. WRT to XP, it seems that NTP was
introduced with SP2, and for security reasons alone I can't see
why all XP installations would not be SP2.

> SNTP uses a jam-sync approach whereby every "x" seconds it force-corrects the system time regardless of it's error.  This creates a saw-tooth drift shape determined by the local clock drift rate and the update interval.

For applications such as WSPR, SNTP, although crude, is probably fine.

73

Stewart/G3YSX


From clive at ancient-mariner.co.uk  Thu Jan  1 09:32:04 2009
From: clive at ancient-mariner.co.uk (clive@ancient-mariner.co.uk)
Date: Thu Jan  1 10:44:29 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] I must have upset the Time Lords? (MSF,DCF77,HBG)
Message-ID: <6BE4F50B102B4A48B23E2679241B2F4C@study>

My plan yesterday was to monitor and record the simultaneous transmissions
of the leap-seconds from Europe's three radio time-code transmitters. MSF
Anthorn, Cumbria on 60.0kHz, DCF77 Mainflingen, Germany on 77.5kHz and HBG
Prangins, Switzerland on 75.0kHz. For this I was using an RF Space SDR-IQ
receiver http://www.rfspace.com/SDR-IQ.html and an e-probe antenna. The
software for this was the supplied SpecraVue, which has a nice spectrum plus
waterfall display. 


I set the software for 57.5 - 82.5kHz so as to encompass all three stations
and trials during the day showed that recording a 200MB file would give me
just over 5 minutes. So, started this off at 23:57:25 and went out to let
the New Year in. 

On my return, found that the screen had frozen at 23:59:58 - so not too
happy. Anyway, on examining the recording, found that it was 94MB (which
would fit) BUT on replay found that it had captured the whole 5 minutes. My
happiness was short lived, since then found that the time stamping was
around 25 seconds out! This despite using an internet time server to correct
my pc's clock half an hour or so earlier: ntp1.npl.co.uk  - So not quite as
intended. 

But what is strange is that earlier yesterday noticed that the time of an
incoming telephone call was wrong on my phones caller-display. I have a
Delta 700 phone which is 2-line. One line to my BT (British
Telecommunications) line and the other on my VoIP line which is from my
DrayTek Vigor 2800 modem. This modem also gets its time from the same
internet time server: ntp1.npl.co.uk - so I forced a correction and my
phone's time is now correct for calls via VoIP (a call via BT would correct
it to BT time). 

Checking this afternoon, I now find that my pc clock has been drifting
wildly, it's currently 30 seconds fast and I re-corrected it at 13:00 - so
looks like it needs a new CMOS battery, strange about the VoIP modem though.
Although common to both issues, I'm sure that the NPL's internet time server
is not the problem. 

So back to the drawing board for the next leap-second. 

Cheers 

Clive

GW4EYO

 

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From mauser48 at ptd.net  Thu Jan  1 10:18:17 2009
From: mauser48 at ptd.net (rick)
Date: Thu Jan  1 11:31:13 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] qrss software
Message-ID: <001901c96c24$2c205a30$6401a8c0@RADIOROOM>

ON7YD' s website seems to down.Does anyone know where I can find the QRSS software?

                                Thanks
                                       Rick  KA2PBO
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From riese-k3djc at juno.com  Thu Jan  1 11:05:01 2009
From: riese-k3djc at juno.com (riese-k3djc@juno.com)
Date: Thu Jan  1 12:25:20 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon " XR " Power Increase
Message-ID: <20090101.110501.2744.2.riese-k3djc@juno.com>

for higher voltage and heavy current consider series several computer
powersupplys
I did 4 and was able to get 48 volts at 10+ ampswere a bit noisy but
would have been used
just during transmit

Bob K3DJC


On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:56:34 -0800 (PST) Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
writes:
> Happy New Year Everyone !!
> 
> I found a dual voltage power supply on ebay and it was exactly
> what I was needing, so I bought it ( very cheap ), it works
> perfect so far. I'm now running 31 volts on the PA, and up to 
> full power. A 3dB increase in output. I hope it helps in the
> ionesphere.  73, and good LOWfer-ing.
> 
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
> Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
> http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr
> 
> 
>       
> _______________________________________________
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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Thu Jan  1 12:05:41 2009
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Thu Jan  1 13:18:37 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] qrss software
In-Reply-To: <001901c96c24$2c205a30$6401a8c0@RADIOROOM>
References: <001901c96c24$2c205a30$6401a8c0@RADIOROOM>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP5079FF0EDB24F46B00E34BE9E50@phx.gbl>

Rick - I am sending it to you directly - as an attachment.
Let me know if it arrives safely.

Mitch  'MP' 185301
From mauser48 at ptd.net  Thu Jan  1 12:09:30 2009
From: mauser48 at ptd.net (rick)
Date: Thu Jan  1 13:22:27 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] QRSS SOFTWARE
Message-ID: <002501c96c33$b5c70220$6401a8c0@RADIOROOM>

Thanks guys!!!  Jay and Mitch  sent me the software!!

                       Rick
                                KA2PBO 
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From k9ao at charter.net  Thu Jan  1 12:28:47 2009
From: k9ao at charter.net (Rick Kunath)
Date: Thu Jan  1 13:41:47 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] qrss software
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP5079FF0EDB24F46B00E34BE9E50@phx.gbl>
References: <001901c96c24$2c205a30$6401a8c0@RADIOROOM>
	<BLU0-SMTP5079FF0EDB24F46B00E34BE9E50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <495CFD4F.3060200@charter.net>

Mitch Powell wrote:
> Rick - I am sending it to you directly - as an attachment.
> Let me know if it arrives safely.
> 
> Mitch  'MP' 185301
> _______________________________________________
>> From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer@mailman.qth.net
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> 

Mitch,

I didn't get an attachment with this email message, just the above 
message text itself.

Don't know why the attachment was deleted, the list settings maybe? I do 
get them fine here otherwise.

Looks like a bounce maybe? Not sure why that should be happening. I use 
a real ISP pop3 mailbox on my cable Internet provider, Charter 
Communications. Every now and again they bounce a few emails for no 
apparent reason. I keep my mailboxes cleaned out at least several times 
per day, and we get a gig of mail storage.

Let me know what I can do to help.

Happy New Year,

Rick Kunath
From w1tag at charter.net  Thu Jan  1 14:17:32 2009
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Thu Jan  1 15:30:31 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] SJ, MP Daytime
Message-ID: <495D16CC.4030605@charter.net>

Had pretty good copy of MP at mid-day, with the antenna pointing in the 
wrong direction. SJ (186.85, QRSS10) is very nice right now.

John, W1TAG
From w1tag at charter.net  Thu Jan  1 20:23:29 2009
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Thu Jan  1 21:36:29 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] VO1NA tonight
Message-ID: <495D6C91.1000409@charter.net>

Pretty good copy of VO1NA on 184.509 kHz tonight, sending the full 
callsign in QRSS60. Lots of fading, so it's hard to copy the whole thing.

John, W1TAG
From Mike_Staines at email.com  Fri Jan  2 01:24:32 2009
From: Mike_Staines at email.com (Mike Staines)
Date: Fri Jan  2 02:37:36 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] Baudline FFT/DSP software
In-Reply-To: <49533BB2.6040308@yahoo.com>
References: <49533BB2.6040308@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1230877472.18079.5.camel@Graybox>

Mike (and group):

Just downloaded this and installed on my Linux (Fedora) box.
Installation was simple and the program seems like it will be a lot of
fun to play with. Thanks for the tip!
Mike
WM1KE
(TMO)
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike-WE0H <we0h@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;  UK) and MedFer
bands <lowfer@mailman.qth.net>
To: SHMRG <shmrg@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>, Discussion of the Lowfer
(US, European, &amp;  UK) and MedFer bands <lowfer@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Lowfer] Baudline FFT/DSP software
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 01:52:18 -0600

Anyone run Linux and tried this FFT/DSP software?

http://www.baudline.com/index.html

Stumbled upon this tonight. It looks interesting kind of like an ARGO 
type software with lots of options and stuff that is way over my 
head...hi hi

Thanks,
Mike
WE0H
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From we0h at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  2 01:27:28 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Fri Jan  2 02:40:38 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] Baudline FFT/DSP software
In-Reply-To: <1230877472.18079.5.camel@Graybox>
References: <49533BB2.6040308@yahoo.com> <1230877472.18079.5.camel@Graybox>
Message-ID: <495DB3D0.4060208@yahoo.com>

Where have you been hiding? hi hi...I  still have the page open but 
haven't downloaded the program yet. Fred did and says it works nice. 
Good to hear from you again Mike!!!

Mike
WE0H




Mike S wrote:
> Mike (and group):
>
> Just downloaded this and installed on my Linux (Fedora) box.
> Installation was simple and the program seems like it will be a lot of
> fun to play with. Thanks for the tip!
> Mike
> WM1KE
> (TMO)
From we0h at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  2 01:30:16 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Fri Jan  2 02:43:26 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] GROUND RESISTANCE
In-Reply-To: <001a01c96ba1$3d8c4780$6401a8c0@RADIOROOM>
References: <565675.30576.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<001a01c96ba1$3d8c4780$6401a8c0@RADIOROOM>
Message-ID: <495DB478.6020502@yahoo.com>

Good to hear that Rick. No worries about tree loss or any significant 
ground issues with the Ashlock loop. It will work. Keep those 
connections perfect and use De-oxit or Vaseline on those connections so 
they stay clean and low resistance. You will be impressed with the 
loop's performance.

Mike
WE0H
/16



rick wrote:
> Thanks Andy,
> Appreciate the info.I just finished reading  Bill Ashlocks papers on 
> loop antenna .I trhink thats the way Im gonna go .It seems like alot 
> of work to get a decent ground and the xyl isnt gonna let me knock 
> down the trees so Ill never really have ideal setup.
> Its nice up here on the mountain --just not for antennas!
>
>                               73
>                                      Rick   KA2PBO
From pbarick at niu.edu  Fri Jan  2 10:48:45 2009
From: pbarick at niu.edu (Peter Barick)
Date: Fri Jan  2 12:02:01 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] GROUND RESISTANCE
Message-ID: <495DE2FD020000C80005D3B8@wpo.cso.niu.edu>

Rick,
Re: Your Antenna Choice

Given your assessment of local soil conditions (bleak) the choice most likely is a loop and based on Bill's proven works on the subject.

An easy choice appears to be a loaded vertical, but at LF performance is hard to come by, given the low power allowed (Part-15). From experience of setting up a LF vertical it's a big job and easily compromised given near-by trees and other conducting objects we people like to live with. Plus there's the ground radials, yes. need more than a few 10-foot ground rods at the feed point. I made a choice to lay out many on top of ground (a veritable land mine at night !). Yes it worked but at a higher cost of real estate, trees cut down and risk of RF absorption by yet other trees when sap is up. Ha, the one advantage left is the omni-directional quality vs the loop.

That's just my take, given my circumstances, of course. And it didn't begin with a grand plan -- just sorta evolved based on perceived need.

So if you have suitable trees and a means of dragging up a tow line at least 50-feet high, go for a 50x50 foot loop. Oh, and keep us posted on progress.

- Peter
-------------------------------------
>>> Mike-WE0H <we0h@yahoo.com> 01/02/09 12:30 AM >>>
Good to hear that Rick. No worries about tree loss or any significant 
ground issues with the Ashlock loop. It will work. Keep those 
connections perfect and use De-oxit or Vaseline on those connections so 
they stay clean and low resistance. You will be impressed with the 
loop's performance.
Mike
----------------------------------
rick wrote:
> Thanks Andy,
> Appreciate the info.I just finished reading  Bill Ashlocks papers on 
> loop antenna .I trhink thats the way Im gonna go .It seems like alot 
< ... >
From k5wms at aristotle.net  Thu Jan  1 17:33:55 2009
From: k5wms at aristotle.net (PAUL DAULTON)
Date: Fri Jan  2 12:13:28 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] Test message
Message-ID: <20090102171326.C50A4859C04@mailman.qth.net>

This is a test message. I have not been receiving messages from the group
 today.
Paul k5wms
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  2 11:03:42 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Fri Jan  2 12:16:46 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] Test message
In-Reply-To: <20090102171326.C50A4859C04@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <867694.49717.qm@web63605.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

HAH-LOW, is this thing on ???

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Thu, 1/1/09, PAUL DAULTON <k5wms@aristotle.net> wrote:

> From: PAUL DAULTON <k5wms@aristotle.net>
> Subject: [Lowfer] Test message
> To: lowfer@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 5:33 PM
> This is a test message. I have not been receiving messages
> from the group
>  today.
> Paul k5wms
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer@mailman.qth.net
> To sub/unsub visit:
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer


      
From mauser48 at ptd.net  Fri Jan  2 11:07:07 2009
From: mauser48 at ptd.net (rick)
Date: Fri Jan  2 12:20:09 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] GROUND RESISTANCE
References: <495DE2FD020000C80005D3B8@wpo.cso.niu.edu>
Message-ID: <000901c96cf4$2913bff0$6401a8c0@RADIOROOM>


Thanks Peter !
 Well the only spots on my lot that are treeless are where my house and my 
swimming pool are. I dont think the xyl wouild like an antenna in either of 
those spots.
 So yes I will keep you posted on my loop progress.

                    73
                         Rick KA2PBO







----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Barick" <pbarick@niu.edu>
To: <lowfer@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] GROUND RESISTANCE


Rick,
Re: Your Antenna Choice

Given your assessment of local soil conditions (bleak) the choice most 
likely is a loop and based on Bill's proven works on the subject.

An easy choice appears to be a loaded vertical, but at LF performance is 
hard to come by, given the low power allowed (Part-15). From experience of 
setting up a LF vertical it's a big job and easily compromised given near-by 
trees and other conducting objects we people like to live with. Plus there's 
the ground radials, yes. need more than a few 10-foot ground rods at the 
feed point. I made a choice to lay out many on top of ground (a veritable 
land mine at night !). Yes it worked but at a higher cost of real estate, 
trees cut down and risk of RF absorption by yet other trees when sap is up. 
Ha, the one advantage left is the omni-directional quality vs the loop.

That's just my take, given my circumstances, of course. And it didn't begin 
with a grand plan -- just sorta evolved based on perceived need.

So if you have suitable trees and a means of dragging up a tow line at least 
50-feet high, go for a 50x50 foot loop. Oh, and keep us posted on progress.

- Peter
-------------------------------------
>>> Mike-WE0H <we0h@yahoo.com> 01/02/09 12:30 AM >>>
Good to hear that Rick. No worries about tree loss or any significant
ground issues with the Ashlock loop. It will work. Keep those
connections perfect and use De-oxit or Vaseline on those connections so
they stay clean and low resistance. You will be impressed with the
loop's performance.
Mike
----------------------------------
rick wrote:
> Thanks Andy,
> Appreciate the info.I just finished reading  Bill Ashlocks papers on
> loop antenna .I trhink thats the way Im gonna go .It seems like alot
< ... >
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From w9sz.zack at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 11:11:45 2009
From: w9sz.zack at gmail.com (Zack Widup)
Date: Fri Jan  2 12:24:51 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] Test message
In-Reply-To: <867694.49717.qm@web63605.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <20090102171326.C50A4859C04@mailman.qth.net>
	<867694.49717.qm@web63605.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <31c63d050901020811r4756964eq278f3e417996a985@mail.gmail.com>

Seems to be OK.  Maybe just no one is posting anything?

73, Zack W9SZ

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr@yahoo.com> wrote:

> HAH-LOW, is this thing on ???
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
> Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
> http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr
>
>
> --- On Thu, 1/1/09, PAUL DAULTON <k5wms@aristotle.net> wrote:
>
> > From: PAUL DAULTON <k5wms@aristotle.net>
> > Subject: [Lowfer] Test message
> > To: lowfer@mailman.qth.net
> > Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 5:33 PM
>  > This is a test message. I have not been receiving messages
> > from the group
> >  today.
> > Paul k5wms
> > _______________________________________________
> > >From the Lowfer mailing list
> > Send messages to: Lowfer@mailman.qth.net
> > To sub/unsub visit:
> > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From chejmw at buffalo.edu  Fri Jan  2 11:15:03 2009
From: chejmw at buffalo.edu (James M. Walker)
Date: Fri Jan  2 12:28:08 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] Test message
References: <867694.49717.qm@web63605.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <93398900C7624395B76BC24E05A34B59@ESHOP1>

Seems to be working fine here.
Jim
WB2FCN

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr@yahoo.com>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Test message


> HAH-LOW, is this thing on ???
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
> Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
> http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr
>
>
> --- On Thu, 1/1/09, PAUL DAULTON <k5wms@aristotle.net> wrote:
>
>> From: PAUL DAULTON <k5wms@aristotle.net>
>> Subject: [Lowfer] Test message
>> To: lowfer@mailman.qth.net
>> Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 5:33 PM
>> This is a test message. I have not been receiving messages
>> from the group
>>  today.
>> Paul k5wms
>> _______________________________________________
>> >From the Lowfer mailing list
>> Send messages to: Lowfer@mailman.qth.net
>> To sub/unsub visit:
>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Send messages to: Lowfer@mailman.qth.net
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>
>
> 


From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  2 14:31:26 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Fri Jan  2 15:44:39 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] Re: Lowfer in nearby Alabama (XMGR)
In-Reply-To: <1C19BDECFF924C1282B574A2341DF442@LesN1LFPC>
Message-ID: <698660.1450.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hello Les:

I've looked at your website many times, as a matter of fact, I have
it bookmarked. Baring a skip zone, I should be an easy catch for you.
I'm near Knoxville, TN. very close to Alcoa. My beacon " XR " runs
24 / 7 baring storms and such. I use QRSS-60 mode, and you'll find me
at 184.322 KHz ( carrier frequency ). If you catch my signal; send me
a capture, I sure would appreciate it; 
73, and welcome back:


Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Fri, 1/2/09, Les Rayburn <les@highnoonfilm.com> wrote:

> From: Les Rayburn <les@highnoonfilm.com>
> Subject: Lowfer in nearby Alabama (XMGR)
> To: ku4xr@yahoo.com
> Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 2:19 PM
> Happy New Year. 
> 
> In the 1980's, 90's, and early this century, I was
> very active on the Lowfer bands operating station XMGR on
> CCW, CW, QRSS, and WOLF modes. My beacon was received at
> distances out to nearly 200 miles, and I've received
> dozens of other beacons during that time. 
> 
> In 2002, I took the station off the air to move the
> antenna, but work commitments caused me to delay putting it
> back on the air. Since then, we've moved to a new
> neighborhood with deed restrictions, so my current amateur
> radio activity is limited to "stealth" antennas. 
> 
> During the past few days, I've finally gotten around to
> getting my receiving equipment back in order. Currently
> I'm using a phased array of LF Engineering active whips,
> into an Icom 746 Pro. The pro has been modified to remove
> the attenuator for signals below 1.6mhz, so it's very
> sensitive on LF and MF. 
> 
> If you can confirm your operating schedule, including mode,
> then I'll start looking for you on QRSS right away. I
> still have my homebrew transmitter (it's a K0LR design
> capable of CW, QRSS, and WOLF) litz wire antenna coil, power
> supplies, etc....so I may attempt a short vertical or loop
> at some point. 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> ARES AL Section Emergency Coordinator
> NCS-SHARES NCS-047
> ---------------------------------------------
> 121 Mayfair Park
> Maylene, AL 35114
> CELL: (205) 253-4867
> HOME: (205) 620-3473
> WORK: (205) 824-8930
> FAX: (205) 824-8960
> E-Mail to Cell Phone (SMS): 
> 2052534867@tmomail.net
> Blog: http://al-ares.blogspot.com/


      
From sthed475 at telus.net  Fri Jan  2 20:18:46 2009
From: sthed475 at telus.net (Scott Tilley)
Date: Fri Jan  2 21:31:54 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] TIL Grabber back online...
Message-ID: <495EBCF6.7000105@telus.net>

Monitoring the 2200m NA wateringhole

http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/

73 Scott
VE7TIL CN89dk


From we0h at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  2 20:37:54 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Fri Jan  2 21:51:11 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] Re: LF: TIL Grabber back online...
In-Reply-To: <495EBCF6.7000105@telus.net>
References: <495EBCF6.7000105@telus.net>
Message-ID: <495EC172.3050905@yahoo.com>

A 600m grabber would be neat up there...hi hi...

Mike
/16



Scott wrote:
> Monitoring the 2200m NA wateringhole
>
> http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/
>
> 73 Scott
> VE7TIL CN89dk
From we0h at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  2 21:18:06 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Fri Jan  2 22:31:22 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] /16 on the air 507.90kc
Message-ID: <495ECADE.4090400@yahoo.com>

On the air this evening. 507.90kc

Mike
WE0H
/16
From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Jan  3 11:49:55 2009
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (J. B. Weazle McCreath)
Date: Sat Jan  3 13:03:10 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] Sat. Nite Digital modes?
Message-ID: <000501c96dc3$4fb852e0$0b01a8c0@weazle>

Hello lowfers,

Is anyone planning on transmitting using one of the digital modes,
aside from primitive digital (cw), this coming evening?  I've now
got my PCs clocks in sync and have installed some new progs
that I'm itching to try!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle


From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  3 13:19:20 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat Jan  3 14:32:31 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] An astonishing discovery !!!
Message-ID: <296977.49684.qm@web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

The " DELETE " button !!!  73 all:

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      
From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  3 15:22:38 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat Jan  3 16:35:50 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] RU6LA's station setup
Message-ID: <70147.76453.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hey everyone;

I'm warming up all the gear to see if I can copy ED, RU6LA tonite
on 2200 meters. Does anyone know what his possible ERP will be in
this direction ??

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      
From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  3 16:26:52 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat Jan  3 17:40:04 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon " XR " off for monitoring tonite
Message-ID: <732668.91154.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Will turn it back on around 12am EST 

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      
From wa3usg at verizon.net  Sat Jan  3 17:16:37 2009
From: wa3usg at verizon.net (Richard Goodman)
Date: Sat Jan  3 18:29:55 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] An astonishing discovery !!!
In-Reply-To: <296977.49684.qm@web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <LBENKNHPADCIMLPCBOKNKEAODNAA.wa3usg@verizon.net>

I agree. 
That button will do absolutely amazing things!!

73
Dick, WA3USG
Mechanicsburg, Pa.


-----Original Message-----
From: lowfer-bounces@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:lowfer-bounces@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Andy - KU4XR
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 1:19 PM
To: kn4lf@hard-core-dx.com; lowfer@mailman.qth.net;
rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: [Lowfer] An astonishing discovery !!!


The " DELETE " button !!!  73 all:

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      
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From hpessoa at sapo.pt  Sat Jan  3 19:19:43 2009
From: hpessoa at sapo.pt (Henrique Pessoa)
Date: Sat Jan  3 20:32:48 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] An astonishing discovery !!!
References: <LBENKNHPADCIMLPCBOKNKEAODNAA.wa3usg@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <01cc01c96e02$254923b0$6501a8c0@TORRE>

Yes indeed, it really does, absolutely !!
73's
Herique, CT1HX

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Goodman" <wa3usg@verizon.net>
To: <ku4xr@yahoo.com>; "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp" 
<lowfer@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 10:16 PM
Subject: RE: [Lowfer] An astonishing discovery !!!


>I agree.
> That button will do absolutely amazing things!!
>
> 73
> Dick, WA3USG
> Mechanicsburg, Pa.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowfer-bounces@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:lowfer-bounces@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Andy - KU4XR
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 1:19 PM
> To: kn4lf@hard-core-dx.com; lowfer@mailman.qth.net;
> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: [Lowfer] An astonishing discovery !!!
>
>
> The " DELETE " button !!!  73 all:
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
> Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
> http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr
>
>
>
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From riese-k3djc at juno.com  Sat Jan  3 19:29:28 2009
From: riese-k3djc at juno.com (riese-k3djc@juno.com)
Date: Sat Jan  3 20:43:52 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] An astonishing discovery !!!
Message-ID: <20090103.192928.1144.1.riese-k3djc@juno.com>

Ahh but will it mix paint

Bob K3DJC


On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 00:19:43 -0000 "Henrique Pessoa" <hpessoa@sapo.pt>
writes:
> Yes indeed, it really does, absolutely !!
> 73's
> Herique, CT1HX
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Goodman" <wa3usg@verizon.net>
> To: <ku4xr@yahoo.com>; "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, 
> &amp" 
> <lowfer@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 10:16 PM
> Subject: RE: [Lowfer] An astonishing discovery !!!
> 
> 
> >I agree.
> > That button will do absolutely amazing things!!
> >
> > 73
> > Dick, WA3USG
> > Mechanicsburg, Pa.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lowfer-bounces@mailman.qth.net
> > [mailto:lowfer-bounces@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Andy - KU4XR
> > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 1:19 PM
> > To: kn4lf@hard-core-dx.com; lowfer@mailman.qth.net;
> > rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> > Subject: [Lowfer] An astonishing discovery !!!
> >
> >
> > The " DELETE " button !!!  73 all:
> >
> > Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> > LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
> > Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
> > http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  3 22:15:45 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat Jan  3 23:28:58 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon " XR " back on the air
Message-ID: <624572.43413.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com>



Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      
From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan  4 10:16:56 2009
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Sun Jan  4 11:30:14 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XKO received
Message-ID: <4960D2E8.80408@sbcglobal.net>

Thanks to the recent pointer to VE7IL's 137 kHz grabber at 
http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ I noticed WD2XKO being received well 
on QRSS-30 around 0430Z 010409. I hastily tuned to 137.777.4 kHz and as 
expected Dex's signal was quite strong near Chicago. It remained so 
throughout the night until he powered down at 1100Z. Capture 350 on the 
F1AFJ grabber shows "XKO" even made it across the Atlantic at one point.

73,
Garry
K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL
From w1tag at charter.net  Sun Jan  4 10:30:05 2009
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sun Jan  4 11:43:26 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XKO received
In-Reply-To: <4960D2E8.80408@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4960D2E8.80408@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4960D5FD.80009@charter.net>

Garry,

Dex is coming here with a huge signal at mid-morning on 137.77762 kHz. 
Distance is 671 miles.

John, W1TAG

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sun Jan  4 12:18:48 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun Jan  4 13:32:04 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] QTH.net server change
Message-ID: <106118.46609.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

http://www.qsl.net/index.html

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      
From gerfmon at mesanetworks.net  Sun Jan  4 13:03:56 2009
From: gerfmon at mesanetworks.net (Jerry Sharp)
Date: Sun Jan  4 14:17:30 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] TIL Grabber back online...
In-Reply-To: <495EBCF6.7000105@telus.net>
References: <495EBCF6.7000105@telus.net>
Message-ID: <4960FA0C.6090401@mesanetworks.net>

Scott, thanks for putting the grabber online. One silly question...how 
do you increase the size of your Argo screen? I must be blind or really 
dumb as I cannot find a "size" setting anywhere in Argo. In fact, I 
can't even find a .ini file where I can change the size manually.

Thanks and 73,
Jerry Sharp, KD0GS
Longmont, CO
DN70ke


Scott Tilley wrote:
> Monitoring the 2200m NA wateringhole
> 
> http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/
> 
> 73 Scott
> VE7TIL CN89dk
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
>> From the Lowfer mailing list
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> 
> 
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> 
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> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1872 - Release Date: 1/2/2009 1:10 PM
> 

From sthed475 at telus.net  Sun Jan  4 14:15:26 2009
From: sthed475 at telus.net (Scott Tilley)
Date: Sun Jan  4 15:28:46 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] TIL Grabber back online...BIG Argo
In-Reply-To: <4960FA0C.6090401@mesanetworks.net>
References: <495EBCF6.7000105@telus.net> <4960FA0C.6090401@mesanetworks.net>
Message-ID: <49610ACE.4050900@telus.net>

Hi All

I've got a few emails wondering about the mystery of the 'big argo.'  
Back a few years ago a dutch chap sent me a .exe file to replace the 
original argo software for the grabber with the bigger window.  I can't 
remember his name but I'm sure if he's around he'll help you out.

It is not a feature in the standard version of argo.

73 Scott


Jerry Sharp wrote:
>
> Scott, thanks for putting the grabber online. One silly question...how 
> do you increase the size of your Argo screen? I must be blind or 
> really dumb as I cannot find a "size" setting anywhere in Argo. In 
> fact, I can't even find a .ini file where I can change the size manually.
>
> Thanks and 73,
> Jerry Sharp, KD0GS
> Longmont, CO
> DN70ke
>
>
> Scott Tilley wrote:
>> Monitoring the 2200m NA wateringhole
>>
>> http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/
>>
>> 73 Scott
>> VE7TIL CN89dk
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Send messages to: Lowfer@mailman.qth.net
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>>
>>
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>>
>>
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>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus 
>> Database: 270.10.2/1872 - Release Date: 1/2/2009 1:10 PM
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sun Jan  4 14:39:30 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun Jan  4 15:52:49 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] TIL Grabber back online...BIG Argo
In-Reply-To: <49610ACE.4050900@telus.net>
Message-ID: <231517.302.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Jerry:

Open ARGO, then mouse to a clear space on the desktop, left click,
select properties, then settings. From there set your screen size
to 640 x 480 , ARGO will probably fill your screen. that is the old
Win95 16 color setting. I'm not a programmer, but he may have written
an excutable for ARGO that automatically sets the screen size larger.
Just my 2 cents worth:  73;

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Sun, 1/4/09, Scott Tilley <sthed475@telus.net> wrote:

> From: Scott Tilley <sthed475@telus.net>
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] TIL Grabber back online...BIG Argo
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &  UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer@mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 2:15 PM
> Hi All
> 
> I've got a few emails wondering about the mystery of
> the 'big argo.'  
> Back a few years ago a dutch chap sent me a .exe file to
> replace the 
> original argo software for the grabber with the bigger
> window.  I can't 
> remember his name but I'm sure if he's around
> he'll help you out.
> 
> It is not a feature in the standard version of argo.
> 
> 73 Scott
> 
> 
> Jerry Sharp wrote:
> >
> > Scott, thanks for putting the grabber online. One
> silly question...how 
> > do you increase the size of your Argo screen? I must
> be blind or 
> > really dumb as I cannot find a "size"
> setting anywhere in Argo. In 
> > fact, I can't even find a .ini file where I can
> change the size manually.
> >
> > Thanks and 73,
> > Jerry Sharp, KD0GS
> > Longmont, CO
> > DN70ke
> >
> >
> > Scott Tilley wrote:
> >> Monitoring the 2200m NA wateringhole
> >>
> >> http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/
> >>
> >> 73 Scott
> >> VE7TIL CN89dk
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> Database: 270.10.2/1872 - Release Date: 1/2/2009
> 1:10 PM
> >>
> >
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From gerfmon at mesanetworks.net  Sun Jan  4 15:19:36 2009
From: gerfmon at mesanetworks.net (Jerry Sharp)
Date: Sun Jan  4 16:32:54 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] XKO Copied In Colorado
Message-ID: <496119D8.4030205@mesanetworks.net>

Pretty good copy of XKO into Colorado this midday. Surprising, with my 
36" active vertical temporarily only 10 feet above the ground. Hopefully 
I can get it back up to 40 feet sometime this week if the weather holds.

My Argo screen shot:

http://www.underwesternskies.net/lowfers/XKO_1377774_01-04-2009_1855UTC.jpg

Distance is about 1390 miles from Longmont, CO to Stanfield, NC.

73,
Jerry Sharp, KD0GS
Longmont, CO
DN70ke





From gerfmon at mesanetworks.net  Sun Jan  4 15:26:07 2009
From: gerfmon at mesanetworks.net (Jerry Sharp)
Date: Sun Jan  4 16:39:26 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] TIL Grabber back online...BIG Argo
In-Reply-To: <49610ACE.4050900@telus.net>
References: <495EBCF6.7000105@telus.net> <4960FA0C.6090401@mesanetworks.net>
	<49610ACE.4050900@telus.net>
Message-ID: <49611B5F.5090609@mesanetworks.net>

Scott, thanks for letting me know I haven't gone completely senile yet. :)

Guess the Argo size is defined within the source code.

And Andy, if you read this, changing my monitor resolution would be one 
solution, but then all my other applications on the monitor would be 
HUGE. I normally run 1600x1200 on my 21" LCD monitor.

73,
Jerry Sharp, KD0GS
Longmont, CO
DN70ke

Scott Tilley wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I've got a few emails wondering about the mystery of the 'big argo.'  
> Back a few years ago a dutch chap sent me a .exe file to replace the 
> original argo software for the grabber with the bigger window.  I can't 
> remember his name but I'm sure if he's around he'll help you out.
> 
> It is not a feature in the standard version of argo.
> 
> 73 Scott
> 
> 
> Jerry Sharp wrote:
>>
>> Scott, thanks for putting the grabber online. One silly question...how 
>> do you increase the size of your Argo screen? I must be blind or 
>> really dumb as I cannot find a "size" setting anywhere in Argo. In 
>> fact, I can't even find a .ini file where I can change the size manually.
>>
>> Thanks and 73,
>> Jerry Sharp, KD0GS
>> Longmont, CO
>> DN70ke
>>
>>
>> Scott Tilley wrote:
>>> Monitoring the 2200m NA wateringhole
>>>
>>> http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/
>>>
>>> 73 Scott
>>> VE7TIL CN89dk
>>>
>>>
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From gerfmon at mesanetworks.net  Sun Jan  4 15:29:21 2009
From: gerfmon at mesanetworks.net (Jerry Sharp)
Date: Sun Jan  4 16:42:40 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] XKO Copied In Colorado
In-Reply-To: <496119D8.4030205@mesanetworks.net>
References: <496119D8.4030205@mesanetworks.net>
Message-ID: <49611C21.8060401@mesanetworks.net>

Oops, forgot to mention this was at 137.7774 KHz.

Jerry Sharp, KD0GS
Longmont, CO
DN70ke

Jerry Sharp wrote:
> Pretty good copy of XKO into Colorado this midday. Surprising, with my 
> 36" active vertical temporarily only 10 feet above the ground. Hopefully 
> I can get it back up to 40 feet sometime this week if the weather holds.
> 
> My Argo screen shot:
> 
> http://www.underwesternskies.net/lowfers/XKO_1377774_01-04-2009_1855UTC.jpg
> 
> Distance is about 1390 miles from Longmont, CO to Stanfield, NC.
> 
> 73,
> Jerry Sharp, KD0GS
> Longmont, CO
> DN70ke
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From w1tag at charter.net  Sun Jan  4 16:43:40 2009
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sun Jan  4 17:57:02 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] TIL Grabber back online...BIG Argo
In-Reply-To: <49611B5F.5090609@mesanetworks.net>
References: <495EBCF6.7000105@telus.net>
	<4960FA0C.6090401@mesanetworks.net>	<49610ACE.4050900@telus.net>
	<49611B5F.5090609@mesanetworks.net>
Message-ID: <49612D8C.2040004@charter.net>

Jerry,

Just to clarify, Ko Versteeg, NL9222, produced some "custom" versions of 
Argo about four years ago. They included the larger screen size you see 
on Steve's site, as well as the call letters of the individual operator. 
This was something that Ko did on his own, and did not have the approval 
of Argo's author, I2PHD. It was done with "hacks" to the compiled code, 
as the source code is not in the public domain.

I got a copy from Ko, and ran it for a while. As I remember, there were 
some stability issues on my machine at the time. Others reported no 
problems, but I didn't continue to run the program.

If you do a web search on Ko's name, you should find his web site and 
contact information.

John, W1TAG

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sun Jan  4 16:48:33 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun Jan  4 18:01:53 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon " XR " off to monitor for awhile...
Message-ID: <207780.31505.qm@web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com>



Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      
From we0h at yahoo.com  Sun Jan  4 19:22:26 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sun Jan  4 19:24:37 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] /16 on the air 507.90kc
Message-ID: <496152C2.1020508@yahoo.com>

Going to run some beaconing tonight and some live operator stuff here & 
there on or about 507.90kc. CW mode of course...hi hi...Eventually I 
will get my modem cable built and figure out how to run this NUE-PSK 
modem. Then I can send some of that other stuff.

Mike
WE0H
/16
From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sun Jan  4 23:05:17 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun Jan  4 23:07:25 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon " XR " back on now - copied " EAR "
Message-ID: <321708.33658.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

I gave up on 2200 meters, way too much noise and crud for weak 
signals. Switched to 1750, and got a good capture of " EAR ".
J.B.'s still chuggin along up there. I uploaded the capture to 
the 1750 meter folder on My Space.

73 everyone: 

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      
From L.Howell at conocophillips.com  Sun Jan  4 23:05:46 2009
From: L.Howell at conocophillips.com (Howell, Laurence (Shanghai/Singapore))
Date: Sun Jan  4 23:08:03 2009
Subject: [Lowfer] GROUND RESISTANCE
In-Reply-To: <000901c96cf4$2913bff0$6401a8c0@RADIOROOM>
References: <495DE2FD020000C80005D3B8@wpo.cso.niu.edu>
	<000901c96cf4$2913bff0$6401a8c0@RADIOROOM>
Message-ID: <C523CA6BB607334C90114231C4D4770401609C@tguexmb1.conoco.net>

My pennies worth - Id go for a BIG and high a loop as possible - keep
the RF resistances down by using multiple wires, bundles or something to
keep the RF resistance down and still worth having a conductor that does
have a reasonable insulation sheath so your conductor isn't directly
connected to the woodwork - there is still enough voltage there to cause
detuning and or charcoal. If your using capacitors to tune the sucker
share the current loads by using multiple parallel low loss types to
stop heating and detuning to some extent.

I followed loopy Bills notes and the experiences of others but if you
have strong enough trees Id go for it - The detuning effecting of the
trees, the weather etc or lack of them made it an easier ride than a
vertical whereby I would have found it difficult to control a lot of the
changing parameters or at least engineer them out.

My loop carried something approaching 50A  of 137 kHz current so it was
a steep "heating" learning curve - and I have no doubt my more slender
silver birch trees in Alaska are going to be a challenge.

http://www.kl1x.com/loop1500.jpg
http://www.kl1x.com/house.jpg
http://www.kl1x.com/newloop.jpg


Laurence BY3A-KL1X
Tanggu China

-----Original Message-----
From: lowfer-bounces@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:lowfer-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of rick
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 12:07 AM
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] GROUND RESISTANCE


Thanks Peter !
 Well the only spots on my lot that are treeless are where my house and
my 
swimming pool are. I dont think the xyl wouild like an antenna in either
of 
those spots.
 So yes I will keep you posted on my loop progress.

                    73
                         Rick KA2PBO







----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Barick" <pbarick@niu.edu>
To: <lowfer@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] GROUND RESISTANCE


Rick,
Re: Your Antenna Choice

Given your assessment of local soil conditions (bleak) the choice most 
likely is a loop and based on Bill's proven works on the subject.

An easy choice appears to be a loaded vertical, but at LF performance is

hard to come by, given the low power allowed (Part-15). From experience
of 
setting up a LF vertical it's a big job and easily compromised given
near-by 
trees and other conducting objects we people like to live with. Plus
there's 
the ground radials, yes. need more than a few 10-foot ground rods at the

feed point. I made a choice to lay out many on top of ground (a
veritable 
land mine at night !). Yes it worked but at a higher cost of real
estate, 
trees cut down and risk of RF absorption by yet other trees when sap is
up. 
Ha, the one advantage left is the omni-directional quality vs the loop.

That's just my take, given my circumstances, of course. And it didn't
begin 
with a grand plan -- just sorta evolved based on perceived need.

So if you have suitable trees and a means of dragging up a tow line at
least 
50-feet high, go for a 50x50 foot loop. Oh, and keep us posted on
progress.

- Peter
-------------------------------------
>>> Mike-WE0H <we0h@yahoo.com> 01/02/09 12:30 AM >>>
Good to hear that Rick. No worries about tree loss or any significant
ground issues with the Ashlock loop. It will work. Keep those
connections perfect and use De-oxit or Vaseline on those connections so
they stay clean and low resistance. You will be impressed with the
loop's performance.
Mike
----------------------------------
rick wrote:
> Thanks Andy,
> Appreciate the info.I just finished reading  Bill Ashlocks papers on
> loop antenna .I trhink thats the way Im gonna go .It seems like alot
< ... >
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From kc0tks at att.net  Mon Jan  5 15:23:45 2009
From: kc0tks at att.net (Chris KC0TKS)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:23:45 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] TIL Grabber back online...BIG Argo
References: <495EBCF6.7000105@telus.net> <4960FA0C.6090401@mesanetworks.net>
	<49610ACE.4050900@telus.net>
Message-ID: <004501c96f73$833c0240$6501a8c0@Wrongway>

I located the guy in the Netherlands that does the big screen Argo mod.
I looked all over his website but could not find it so I emailed him and he 
customized a copy with my name and call and sent it to me.
He told me he only does it now by request, that he took the generic version 
off of his website because some people have trouble with it.
I did have problems getting it to work so I set the program to run in 
Windows 95 compatability mode and it works great! (I had the same problem 
with the normal version of Argo also.)

I didn't ask but I'm sure he would build one and send it to you too just for 
the asking.

His name is Ko Versteeg
Contact info is on his website at http://www.xs4all.nl/~nl9222/

Also I'm working on a lowfer beacon transmitter. Who does the beacon 
frequency coordination or should I just pick my own frequency?


Chris - KC?TKS


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Tilley" <sthed475 at telus.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] TIL Grabber back online...BIG Argo


> Hi All
>
> I've got a few emails wondering about the mystery of the 'big argo.'  Back 
> a few years ago a dutch chap sent me a .exe file to replace the original 
> argo software for the grabber with the bigger window.  I can't remember 
> his name but I'm sure if he's around he'll help you out.
>
> It is not a feature in the standard version of argo.
>
> 73 Scott
>
>
> Jerry Sharp wrote:
>>
>> Scott, thanks for putting the grabber online. One silly question...how do 
>> you increase the size of your Argo screen? I must be blind or really dumb 
>> as I cannot find a "size" setting anywhere in Argo. In fact, I can't even 
>> find a .ini file where I can change the size manually.
>>
>> Thanks and 73,
>> Jerry Sharp, KD0GS
>> Longmont, CO
>> DN70ke
>>
>>
>> Scott Tilley wrote:
>>> Monitoring the 2200m NA wateringhole
>>>
>>> http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/
>>>
>>> 73 Scott
>>> VE7TIL CN89dk
>>>
>>>
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 17:35:55 2009
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:35:55 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XKO received
Message-ID: <49628B4B.4030900@sbcglobal.net>

John,

I'm not surprised you received Dex so well even mid-morning given how
strong he was here over night. Do you know of Europeans that are active
on 2200 meters and exactly what frequencies and modes of operation they
use? Recently Andy wrote of listening for RU6LA so I guess that's one
possibility. Has anyone received him? I'm aware of the F1AFJ grabber for
137 kHz. Are there others I should be watching? Sorry for all the
questions but it's probably quickest to get up to speed by asking here
rather than randomly searching the internet.

73,
Garry
K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL

>Message: 2
>Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 10:30:05 -0500
>From: John Andrews <w1tag at charter.net>
>Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WD2XKO received
>To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;    UK) and MedFer
>   bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>Message-ID: <4960D5FD.80009 at charter.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

>Garry,

>Dex is coming here with a huge signal at mid-morning on 137.77762 kHz.
>Distance is 671 miles.

>John, W1TAG





From gerfmon at mesanetworks.net  Mon Jan  5 19:54:35 2009
From: gerfmon at mesanetworks.net (Jerry Sharp)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:54:35 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XJG Copied In Colorado
Message-ID: <4962ABCB.9090500@mesanetworks.net>

Monitoring a booming signal from XKO on 137.777 KHz last night, suddenly 
a nice signal from WD2XGJ popped-up a few minutes before 10:00 PM MST 
(0500 UTC). Would have been a nice copy from both if not for the blasted 
noise that appeared during the evening.

My Argo capture is here:


http://www.underwesternskies.net/lowfers/XGJ_XKO_137_01-05-2009_0500UTC.jpg

It's about 1752 miles from Longmont, CO to Wayland, MA.


73,
Jerry Sharp, KD0GS
Longmont, CO
DN70ke

From L.Howell at conocophillips.com  Mon Jan  5 20:08:18 2009
From: L.Howell at conocophillips.com (Howell, Laurence (Shanghai/Singapore))
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:08:18 +0800
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XKO received
Message-ID: <C523CA6BB607334C90114231C4D477040160BB@tguexmb1.conoco.net>

Gary - though I'm in Eastern Asia/china sea/pacific coast -  I'm running a +24hr (for the moment) 137.777 window grabber on
http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg


Laurence BY3A-KL1X om89ua


----- Original Message -----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net <lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
To: lowfer mailing list <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue Jan 06 06:35:55 2009
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WD2XKO received

John,

I'm not surprised you received Dex so well even mid-morning given how
strong he was here over night. Do you know of Europeans that are active
on 2200 meters and exactly what frequencies and modes of operation they
use? Recently Andy wrote of listening for RU6LA so I guess that's one
possibility. Has anyone received him? I'm aware of the F1AFJ grabber for
137 kHz. Are there others I should be watching? Sorry for all the
questions but it's probably quickest to get up to speed by asking here
rather than randomly searching the internet.

73,
Garry
K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL

>Message: 2
>Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 10:30:05 -0500
>From: John Andrews <w1tag at charter.net>
>Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WD2XKO received
>To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;    UK) and MedFer
>   bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>Message-ID: <4960D5FD.80009 at charter.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

>Garry,

>Dex is coming here with a huge signal at mid-morning on 137.77762 kHz.
>Distance is 671 miles.

>John, W1TAG




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From wd2xgj at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 21:27:05 2009
From: wd2xgj at gmail.com (Warren Ziegler)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:27:05 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XJG Copied In Colorado
In-Reply-To: <4962ABCB.9090500@mesanetworks.net>
References: <4962ABCB.9090500@mesanetworks.net>
Message-ID: <57a24ca70901051827v41486d70q8705e448f5788326@mail.gmail.com>

Jerry,

    Thanks for the report and capture from CO!

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Jerry Sharp <gerfmon at mesanetworks.net> wrote:
> Monitoring a booming signal from XKO on 137.777 KHz last night, suddenly
> a nice signal from WD2XGJ popped-up a few minutes before 10:00 PM MST
> (0500 UTC). Would have been a nice copy from both if not for the blasted
> noise that appeared during the evening.
>
> My Argo capture is here:
>
>
> http://www.underwesternskies.net/lowfers/XGJ_XKO_137_01-05-2009_0500UTC.jpg
>
> It's about 1752 miles from Longmont, CO to Wayland, MA.
>
>
> 73,
> Jerry Sharp, KD0GS
> Longmont, CO
> DN70ke
> _______________________________________________


-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

From wd2xgj at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 21:30:53 2009
From: wd2xgj at gmail.com (Warren Ziegler)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:30:53 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XKO received
In-Reply-To: <C523CA6BB607334C90114231C4D477040160BB@tguexmb1.conoco.net>
References: <C523CA6BB607334C90114231C4D477040160BB@tguexmb1.conoco.net>
Message-ID: <57a24ca70901051830y42607936l634037fec2aadcd2@mail.gmail.com>

Laurence,
      What are the sunrise/sunset times in UTC for your grabber?
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Howell, Laurence (Shanghai/Singapore)
<L.Howell at conocophillips.com> wrote:
> Gary - though I'm in Eastern Asia/china sea/pacific coast -  I'm running a +24hr (for the moment) 137.777 window grabber on
> http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg
>
>
> Laurence BY3A-KL1X om89ua
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net <lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
> To: lowfer mailing list <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tue Jan 06 06:35:55 2009
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WD2XKO received
>
> John,
>
> I'm not surprised you received Dex so well even mid-morning given how
> strong he was here over night. Do you know of Europeans that are active
> on 2200 meters and exactly what frequencies and modes of operation they
> use? Recently Andy wrote of listening for RU6LA so I guess that's one
> possibility. Has anyone received him? I'm aware of the F1AFJ grabber for
> 137 kHz. Are there others I should be watching? Sorry for all the
> questions but it's probably quickest to get up to speed by asking here
> rather than randomly searching the internet.
>
> 73,
> Garry
> K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL
>
>>Message: 2
>>Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 10:30:05 -0500
>>From: John Andrews <w1tag at charter.net>
>>Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WD2XKO received
>>To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;    UK) and MedFer
>>   bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>>Message-ID: <4960D5FD.80009 at charter.net>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>>Garry,
>
>>Dex is coming here with a huge signal at mid-morning on 137.77762 kHz.
>>Distance is 671 miles.
>
>>John, W1TAG
>
>

From L.Howell at conocophillips.com  Mon Jan  5 21:44:54 2009
From: L.Howell at conocophillips.com (Howell, Laurence (Shanghai/Singapore))
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:44:54 +0800
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XKO received
Message-ID: <C523CA6BB607334C90114231C4D477040160C5@tguexmb1.conoco.net>

Warren - happy new year - Sundown around 0830z sunup 2315z appx -

Laurence
Beijing International airport

----- Original Message -----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net <lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp,UK) and MedFer bands <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue Jan 06 10:30:53 2009
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WD2XKO received

Laurence,
      What are the sunrise/sunset times in UTC for your grabber?
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Howell, Laurence (Shanghai/Singapore)
<L.Howell at conocophillips.com> wrote:
> Gary - though I'm in Eastern Asia/china sea/pacific coast -  I'm running a +24hr (for the moment) 137.777 window grabber on
> http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg
>
>
> Laurence BY3A-KL1X om89ua
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net <lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
> To: lowfer mailing list <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tue Jan 06 06:35:55 2009
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WD2XKO received
>
> John,
>
> I'm not surprised you received Dex so well even mid-morning given how
> strong he was here over night. Do you know of Europeans that are active
> on 2200 meters and exactly what frequencies and modes of operation they
> use? Recently Andy wrote of listening for RU6LA so I guess that's one
> possibility. Has anyone received him? I'm aware of the F1AFJ grabber for
> 137 kHz. Are there others I should be watching? Sorry for all the
> questions but it's probably quickest to get up to speed by asking here
> rather than randomly searching the internet.
>
> 73,
> Garry
> K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL
>
>>Message: 2
>>Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 10:30:05 -0500
>>From: John Andrews <w1tag at charter.net>
>>Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WD2XKO received
>>To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;    UK) and MedFer
>>   bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>>Message-ID: <4960D5FD.80009 at charter.net>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>>Garry,
>
>>Dex is coming here with a huge signal at mid-morning on 137.77762 kHz.
>>Distance is 671 miles.
>
>>John, W1TAG
>
>
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Tue Jan  6 06:02:22 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 06:02:22 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon XR in CT
Message-ID: <000601c96fee$406a55e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

Good copy throughout the night.

http://www.w1vd.com/capture/XR010609.jpg

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Tue Jan  6 17:44:36 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:44:36 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XR in CT
References: <321708.33658.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003801c97050$5a4a1970$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

Good copy throughout the night.

http://www.w1vd.com/capture/XR010609.jpg

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

From cqkg8co at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  6 21:23:52 2009
From: cqkg8co at yahoo.com (Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:23:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] WLO
Message-ID: <790916.13048.qm@web38506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

WLO being copied on 177 khz at 2:26 UTC (CW)  is this a LOWFER or a NDB beacon?


Brian, KG8CO
Clinton, MI


      

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  6 23:45:10 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 20:45:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Nice screen capture of " MP " tonite
Message-ID: <422383.34455.qm@web63605.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hello LOWfers:

I tried looking for DF6NM on 2200 Meters, but my LCD TV creates
a wideband noise right on the freq. finally gave up after a couple
of hours and went to 1750. Mitch was the only one coming thru here.
I uploaded the capture to the 1750 album in My Pics on My Space.
Last picture at the bottom. 73 all:

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan  7 11:15:29 2009
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 10:15:29 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 137 kHz grabber in China
Message-ID: <4964D521.3060008@sbcglobal.net>

Laurence,

Thank you very much for running a grabber from China. Along with the 
F1AFJ and VE7TIL grabbers that makes for worldwide coverage of the band, 
at least in the northern hemisphere.

73,
Garry
K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL

>Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:08:18 +0800
>From: "Howell, Laurence \(Shanghai/Singapore\)"
>	<L.Howell at conocophillips.com>
>Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WD2XKO received
>To: <Lowfer at mailman.qth.net>

>Gary - though I'm in Eastern Asia/china sea/pacific coast -  I'm running a +24hr (for the >moment) 137.777 window grabber on
>http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg


>Laurence BY3A-KL1X om89ua




From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  7 14:54:39 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:54:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] XR in CT
In-Reply-To: <003801c97050$5a4a1970$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <469001.15769.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Thanks Jay; for the capture, your time, and effort. I appreciate
any and all reports. ( they're good for the morale - hi hi )
73 OM, and best wishes

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Tue, 1/6/09, jrusgrove at comcast.net <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> From: jrusgrove at comcast.net <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Lowfer] XR in CT
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 5:44 PM
> Good copy throughout the night.
> 
> http://www.w1vd.com/capture/XR010609.jpg
> 
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  7 16:58:50 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:58:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon " XR " off to monitor awhile tonite.
Message-ID: <479365.6972.qm@web63605.mail.re1.yahoo.com>



Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  7 23:04:39 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 20:04:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] " XR " on agn, frozen ant, more on the way. 73 all
Message-ID: <702244.43049.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>



Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      

From k5wms at aristotle.net  Thu Jan  8 22:03:55 2009
From: k5wms at aristotle.net (PAUL DAULTON)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:03:55 -0500 
Subject: [Lowfer] sdr radio
Message-ID: <20090109040357.78A48373803E@mailman.qth.net>

Does anyone here have any experience with the Software Defined Radio
 described
in Elecktor magazine May 2007. Looks interesting. Download of the manual
 is 
available on Electors site.
thanks
Paul k5wms
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Fri Jan  9 07:17:19 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 07:17:19 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG in CT
Message-ID: <000501c97254$37e391d0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

TAG in CT this morning...

2009-01-09 10:59:27 >WOLF10  -r 8001.040 -f 800 -t 1.0 -d 16 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.031 a: 1.2 dp: 88.7 ci:11 cj:432 BRWUQ8BHN3GX2FM ?
t:  48 f: 0.366 a: 1.3 dp: 84.5 ci:13 cj:168 0T*H7K.4.MXL9EY -
t:  96 f:-0.304 a: 1.2 dp: 82.8 ci: 5 cj:423 9YVMH2113HQKDN1 ?
t: 192 f:-0.010 pm:77.51 jm:860 q:  1.6  2.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 288 f:-0.010 pm:206.9 jm:860 q:  5.6  5.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 384 f:-0.010 pm:269.9 jm:860 q:  6.9  6.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 480 f:-0.010 pm:316.7 jm:860 q:  7.3  7.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 576 f:-0.010 pm:331.7 jm:860 q:  7.3  7.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 672 f:-0.010 pm:358.5 jm:860 q:  7.7  7.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 768 f:-0.010 pm:364.8 jm:860 q:  7.8  7.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 864 f:-0.010 pm:373.7 jm:860 q:  8.3  7.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 960 f:-0.010 pm:417.4 jm:860 q:  9.1  8.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1056 f:-0.010 pm:501.6 jm:860 q: 10.0  9.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1152 f:-0.010 pm:540.8 jm:860 q: 10.7  9.8 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1248 f:-0.010 pm:555.5 jm:860 q: 10.8 10.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1344 f:-0.010 pm:556.4 jm:860 q: 10.9  9.8 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1440 f:-0.010 pm:558.9 jm:860 q: 11.0 10.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1536 f:-0.010 pm:573.2 jm:860 q: 11.4 10.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1632 f:-0.010 pm:584.6 jm:860 q: 11.5 10.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
2009-01-09 11:27:00 >WOLF10  -r 8001.040 -f 800 -t 1.0 -d 16 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f:-0.018 a:-0.9 dp: 71.3 ci: 0 cj:  0 4I1JKOSCC847B I ?
t:  48 f: 0.612 a:-1.4 dp: 76.5 ci: 9 cj:120 LVYUZL8F0/.K7L1 ?
t:  96 f: 0.317 a:-0.8 dp: 71.8 ci: 0 cj:359 ???OOC7.C4DZ.6G ?
t: 192 f:-0.010 pm:55.06 jm:647 q:  5.9  5.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 288 f:-0.010 pm:85.91 jm:647 q:  8.9  8.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 384 f:-0.010 pm:127.4 jm:647 q: 11.0  9.9 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 480 f:-0.010 pm:135.5 jm:647 q: 11.2 10.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 576 f:-0.010 pm:201.3 jm:647 q: 11.3 11.9 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 672 f:-0.010 pm:297.2 jm:647 q: 13.4 13.8 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 768 f:-0.010 pm:312.3 jm:647 q: 12.6 13.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 864 f:-0.010 pm:318.9 jm:647 q: 12.9 13.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 960 f:-0.010 pm:326.6 jm:647 q: 13.3 13.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1056 f:-0.010 pm:329.9 jm:647 q: 13.2 13.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1152 f:-0.010 pm:330.8 jm:647 q: 12.7 13.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1248 f:-0.010 pm:338.9 jm:647 q: 13.0 13.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1344 f:-0.010 pm:345.1 jm:647 q: 12.8 13.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1440 f:-0.010 pm:354.4 jm:647 q: 13.3 13.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1536 f:-0.010 pm:358.1 jm:647 q: 13.3 13.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1632 f:-0.010 pm:360.7 jm:647 q: 13.3 13.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -


From w1tag at charter.net  Fri Jan  9 07:51:14 2009
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:51:14 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG in CT
In-Reply-To: <000501c97254$37e391d0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <000501c97254$37e391d0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <49674842.4010401@charter.net>

Jay,

jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
> TAG in CT this morning...
> t: 192 f:-0.010 pm:77.51 jm:860 q:  1.6  2.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
> t: 288 f:-0.010 pm:206.9 jm:860 q:  5.6  5.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

It continues to survive the weather. Thanks for the report. Have been 
running continuous captures on it here, watching the fading, etc.

JA

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan  9 10:23:22 2009
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:23:22 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Active 1750 meter beacons
Message-ID: <49676BEA.3050900@sbcglobal.net>

Beacons CV, EAR, MP, SJ, TAG, UWL, WEB, WMS, and XR have all been 
received recently. However, the latest "On The Air" list at 
http://www.lwca.org/sitepage/part15/ reports quite a few other beacons 
as active. This list isn't perfect (for example, CV is listed as being 
at 189.700 rather than 185.298 kHz) so I wonder if anyone out there 
knows if beacons 3OHH, BOB, TMO, WM, MPK, and R are really active, and 
if so what their frequencies/modes are?

73,
Garry
K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL

From gswynar at durham.net  Fri Jan  9 12:22:49 2009
From: gswynar at durham.net (Eddy Swynar)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:22:49 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Active 1750 meter beacons
References: <49676BEA.3050900@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <001501c9727e$e5c79d80$5221334a@yourlk4rlmsu41>

Does NOBODY ever transmit just a straight, simple CW beacon signal anymore,
or has the incidious computer & its related software ruined that part of
casual tuning for some of us as well...?!

~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ


*********************************************

----- Original Message -----
From: "Garry and Linda Hess" <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>
To: "lowfer mailing list" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 10:23 AM
Subject: [Lowfer] Active 1750 meter beacons


> Beacons CV, EAR, MP, SJ, TAG, UWL, WEB, WMS, and XR have all been
> received recently. However, the latest "On The Air" list at
> http://www.lwca.org/sitepage/part15/ reports quite a few other beacons
> as active. This list isn't perfect (for example, CV is listed as being
> at 189.700 rather than 185.298 kHz) so I wonder if anyone out there
> knows if beacons 3OHH, BOB, TMO, WM, MPK, and R are really active, and
> if so what their frequencies/modes are?
>
> 73,
> Garry
> K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>



From cvest at cox.net  Fri Jan  9 12:35:25 2009
From: cvest at cox.net (Charles W5COV)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:35:25 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Active 1750 meter beacons
References: <49676BEA.3050900@sbcglobal.net>
	<001501c9727e$e5c79d80$5221334a@yourlk4rlmsu41>
Message-ID: <4F3AFDB34AA54553AD0595FF84A1DE9D@gateway>

Hi Eddy , I know Bill , WEB is active and transmits a regular CW beacon 
sequence on even hours CST . I think a few others transmit a CW ID , along 
with their primary mode .

How goes the tube transmitter project ?

Charlie , W5COV

CV , 185.298 kHz . , QRSS60 , 24 / 7 , EM26ex 


From k5wms at aristotle.net  Fri Jan  9 11:40:58 2009
From: k5wms at aristotle.net (PAUL DAULTON)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 11:40:58 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Active 1750 meter beacons
Message-ID: <20090109174102.8F61237380FF@mailman.qth.net>

WEB transmitts on CW on odd hours, QRSS on even hours. I have never heard
 him audibly
but the CW appears as a straight line on ARGO. We are 420 miles apart.
An email to those on lwca list who are not currentlly active might bring
 some back on. Many 
have gone off the air due to lack of reports. Some have told me that 5 or
 6 reports a year
is a good year.
We are thankfull to Jerry, Garry, Peter, and Andy for the timely reports
 this year.
CW is alive and well on 600 meters.
Paul K5WMS
beacon WMS 187492hz qrss30 24/7
em34wu
Jacksonville, Ar
-----Original Message-----
From: "Eddy Swynar" <gswynar at durham.net>
Sent: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:22:49 -0500
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer \(US, European, & UK\) and MedFer bands"
 <lowfer at mailman.qth.net> 
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Active 1750 meter beacons
 
 
Does NOBODY ever transmit just a straight, simple CW beacon signal
 anymore,  
or has the incidious computer & its related software ruined that part of  
casual tuning for some of us as well...?!  
 
~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ  
 
 
*********************************************  
 
----- Original Message -----  
From: "Garry and Linda Hess" <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>  
To: "lowfer mailing list" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>  
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 10:23 AM  
Subject: [Lowfer] Active 1750 meter beacons  
 
 
> Beacons CV, EAR, MP, SJ, TAG, UWL, WEB, WMS, and XR have all been  
> received recently. However, the latest "On The Air" list at  
> http://www.lwca.org/sitepage/part15/ reports quite a few other beacons  
> as active. This list isn't perfect (for example, CV is listed as being  
> at 189.700 rather than 185.298 kHz) so I wonder if anyone out there  
> knows if beacons 3OHH, BOB, TMO, WM, MPK, and R are really active, and  
> if so what their frequencies/modes are?  
>  
> 73,  
> Garry  
> K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL  
> _______________________________________________  
> >From the Lowfer mailing list  
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net  
> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer  
>  
 
 
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From esmithmail at gmail.com  Fri Jan  9 12:50:32 2009
From: esmithmail at gmail.com (esmithmail at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 17:50:32 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Active 1750 meter beacons
In-Reply-To: <001501c9727e$e5c79d80$5221334a@yourlk4rlmsu41>
References: <49676BEA.3050900@sbcglobal.net><001501c9727e$e5c79d80$5221334a@yourlk4rlmsu41>
Message-ID: <671012698-1231523399-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2074292636-@bxe017.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

UWL has been running straight CW for a week until last night.  Ok?
Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device from U.S. Cellular

-----Original Message-----
From: "Eddy Swynar" <gswynar at durham.net>

Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:22:49 
To: Discussion of the Lowfer \(US, European, &amp;UK\) and MedFer bands<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Active 1750 meter beacons


Does NOBODY ever transmit just a straight, simple CW beacon signal anymore,
or has the incidious computer & its related software ruined that part of
casual tuning for some of us as well...?!

~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ


*********************************************

----- Original Message -----
From: "Garry and Linda Hess" <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>
To: "lowfer mailing list" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 10:23 AM
Subject: [Lowfer] Active 1750 meter beacons


> Beacons CV, EAR, MP, SJ, TAG, UWL, WEB, WMS, and XR have all been
> received recently. However, the latest "On The Air" list at
> http://www.lwca.org/sitepage/part15/ reports quite a few other beacons
> as active. This list isn't perfect (for example, CV is listed as being
> at 189.700 rather than 185.298 kHz) so I wonder if anyone out there
> knows if beacons 3OHH, BOB, TMO, WM, MPK, and R are really active, and
> if so what their frequencies/modes are?
>
> 73,
> Garry
> K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>


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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  9 16:52:21 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 13:52:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Active 1750 meter beacons
In-Reply-To: <001501c9727e$e5c79d80$5221334a@yourlk4rlmsu41>
Message-ID: <310409.67720.qm@web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hello Eddy:

I started running my beacon with a CW Id, followed by QRSS-30 " XR ".
The CW was NEVER !! heard by any operator other than those who were
within 100 miles from me. The QRSS-30 was picked up over 500 miles
away. For my own operation; I determined the CW portion to be a 
waste of power, and wear and tear on the equipment. I dropped it,
and switched to QRSS-60, and have been received 1185 miles away.
If using QRSS in place of CW makes the difference in being received
" Or Not ! " Taking into consideration the time and effort I put into
getting my beacon operational, the choice was a simple one for me.
Try tuning my frequency, and see if you can hear my carrier, if you
are unable to hear the 1 min, or 3 min keydown sequences, I suspect
you couldn't hear a CW sequence either. I was actually thinking 
about trying some CW this weekend, really was going to try to find
some hams close enough to hear me, and do a crossband QSO from 1750
to 80 meters. If you want to try to hear it, I'll re-program my beacon
for CW only tonite. 73, and good listening:

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Fri, 1/9/09, Eddy Swynar <gswynar at durham.net> wrote:

> From: Eddy Swynar <gswynar at durham.net>
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Active 1750 meter beacons
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 12:22 PM
> Does NOBODY ever transmit just a straight, simple CW beacon
> signal anymore,
> or has the incidious computer & its related software
> ruined that part of
> casual tuning for some of us as well...?!
> 
> ~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
> 



      

From we0h at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  9 20:18:49 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:18:49 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 500kc :  FAA NDB antenna question(s)...
Message-ID: <4967F779.3000003@yahoo.com>

Question from Brian...Can you guys help him out? He is not on this list 
but I will forward messages to him.

tnx,
Mike



Sorry for BW but I'm hoping one of you may have some first-hand
input on my VLF related question.

In short, I have seen several different types of NDB TX antennas
used at various FAA sites over the years.

Does anybody know, first-hand, why some sites use T-antennas while
others use center-loaded monopoles or wire cage antennas?

I'm sure it is a function of which vendor has a given GSA contract
at the time of site construction and site logistics, but was
wondering if one antenna was preferred by the FAA over another for
some reason that is not yet obvious to me.

I know the design goal is to provide a give field strength at
a given distance and modulation BW is a factor. Yet is one preferred
for NDB operation over another for some unique FAA reason?

-Brian, WA1ZMS/4


From listread at oswegoblade.com  Fri Jan  9 20:30:06 2009
From: listread at oswegoblade.com (JD)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 19:30:06 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 500kc :  FAA NDB antenna question(s)...
References: <4967F779.3000003@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003f01c972c2$fb7ffa20$0202a8c0@JohnHPNotebook>

It's entirely a question of what the beacon was intended to do, and 
therefore the budget that was given to them.  Not all NDBs are created 
equal.  The higher power beacons that were needed for long routes and/or 
transcribed weather broadcasts had conventional towers (self-supporting in 
the early days, guyed later), as close to resonant size as could be 
afforded.  Not all airports required that much range or antenna bandwidth, 
however, and thus did not justify the same expenditure.  The ubiquitous 
electrically-short T supported by telephone poles is a cost-efficient 
alternative in those cases.  Just that simple 
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From listread at oswegoblade.com  Fri Jan  9 21:22:44 2009
From: listread at oswegoblade.com (JD)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 20:22:44 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Active 1750 meter beacons
References: <49676BEA.3050900@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <007b01c972ca$58309930$0202a8c0@JohnHPNotebook>

>>>This list isn't perfect ... so I wonder if anyone out there
knows if beacons 3OHH, BOB, TMO, WM, MPK, and R are really active, and
if so what their frequencies/modes are? >>>

I hope the occasional typo doesn't render the list useless in your view.  If 
perfection were the criterion for usefulness, neither that list nor this 
reflector nor any kind of forum could be called "useful," either.

There's no way to force operators to tell us their status at every moment. 
All I can say is that IN THE MONTH AND YEAR SHOWN, the operators of the six 
stations you asked about told me personally that they were active, in the 
modes and on or near the frequencies shown (not all are able to measure). 
Beyond that, the list--any list--is nothing more than a guide to what _may_ 
still be current by the time you use it.  As for typos or outdated info, I 
encourage both operators and listeners to post their corrections to the 
location indicated at the top of both the LowFER and HiFER lists.  The list 
doesn't create itself...it needs ALL our efforts to be accurate.

Now, Paul said something very apt:  "An email to those on lwca list who are 
not currentlly active might bring some back on."  Very true.  TMO is one of 
a few stations being revived this winter largely because of my query to the 
operator about whether they had any plans.  Knowing that someone will try to 
listen is all the incentive some of them require!

John

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From evp at pacbell.net  Fri Jan  9 21:28:38 2009
From: evp at pacbell.net (Ed Phillips)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:28:38 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Active 1750 meter beacons
In-Reply-To: <007b01c972ca$58309930$0202a8c0@JohnHPNotebook>
References: <49676BEA.3050900@sbcglobal.net>
	<007b01c972ca$58309930$0202a8c0@JohnHPNotebook>
Message-ID: <496807D6.7060906@pacbell.net>

My IZJ beacon has been off the air for some time because it interfered 
with the WWVB clocks in the house.  I wonder if anyone else has had a 
similar experience?

Ed

JD wrote:

> >>>This list isn't perfect ... so I wonder if anyone out there
> knows if beacons 3OHH, BOB, TMO, WM, MPK, and R are really active, and
> if so what their frequencies/modes are? >>>
>  
> I hope the occasional typo doesn't render the list useless in your 
> view.  If perfection were the criterion for usefulness, neither that 
> list nor this reflector nor any kind of forum could be 
> called "useful," either.
>  
> There's no way to force operators to tell us their status at every 
> moment.  All I can say is that IN THE MONTH AND YEAR SHOWN, the 
> operators of the six stations you asked about told me personally that 
> they were active, in the modes and on or near the frequencies shown 
> (not all are able to measure).  Beyond that, the list--any list--is 
> nothing more than a guide to what _may_ still be current by the time 
> you use it.  As for typos or outdated info, I encourage both operators 
> and listeners to post their corrections to the location indicated at 
> the top of both the LowFER and HiFER lists.  The list doesn't create 
> itself...it needs ALL our efforts to be accurate.
>  
> Now, Paul said something very apt:  "An email to those on lwca list 
> who are not currentlly active might bring some back on."  Very true.  
> TMO is one of a few stations being revived this winter largely because 
> of my query to the operator about whether they had any plans.  Knowing 
> that someone will try to listen is all the incentive some of them require!
>  
> John




From k5wms at aristotle.net  Fri Jan  9 22:21:14 2009
From: k5wms at aristotle.net (PAUL DAULTON)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:21:14 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Active 1750 meter beacons
Message-ID: <20090110042117.D8A57373821B@mailman.qth.net>

What frequency is IZJ on? Perhaps moving the freq might cure the problem.
If the beacon is in the house maybe moving the beacon will cure the
 problem.My Beacon is about
160ft from the house. I can receive quite well on 137 and on 500 khz
 without desense, I can often 
copy WEB without desense. My beacon is on 187.492khz , I set my rec to
 189150 usb when coping
WEB. Evidently the lower sideband rejection is enough to eliminate  the
 beacon signal. Most wwvb rec
in clocks are trf with narrow selectivity.
All my wwv clocks are battery power, maybe a bypass on the batteries would
 reduce rf pickup.
Interesting problem Ed, wonder if anyone else has any ideas.
Paul k5wms
-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Phillips <evp at pacbell.net>
Sent: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:28:38 -0800
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer \(US, European, &UK\) and MedFer bands"
 <lowfer at mailman.qth.net> 
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Active 1750 meter beacons
 
 
My IZJ beacon has been off the air for some time because it interfered  
with the WWVB clocks in the house. I wonder if anyone else has had a  
similar experience?  
 
Ed  
 
JD wrote:  
 
> >>>This list isn't perfect ... so I wonder if anyone out there  
> knows if beacons 3OHH, BOB, TMO, WM, MPK, and R are really active, and  
> if so what their frequencies/modes are? >>>  
>  
> I hope the occasional typo doesn't render the list useless in your  
> view. If perfection were the criterion for usefulness, neither that  
> list nor this reflector nor any kind of forum could be  
> called "useful," either.  
>  
> There's no way to force operators to tell us their status at every  
> moment. All I can say is that IN THE MONTH AND YEAR SHOWN, the  
> operators of the six stations you asked about told me personally that  
> they were active, in the modes and on or near the frequencies shown  
> (not all are able to measure). Beyond that, the list--any list--is  
> nothing more than a guide to what _may_ still be current by the time  
> you use it. As for typos or outdated info, I encourage both operators  
> and listeners to post their corrections to the location indicated at  
> the top of both the LowFER and HiFER lists. The list doesn't create  
> itself...it needs ALL our efforts to be accurate.  
>  
> Now, Paul said something very apt: "An email to those on lwca list  
> who are not currentlly active might bring some back on." Very true.  
> TMO is one of a few stations being revived this winter largely because  
> of my query to the operator about whether they had any plans. Knowing  
> that someone will try to listen is all the incentive some of them
 require!  
>  
> John  
 
 
 
_______________________________________________  
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Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net  
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From Mike_Staines at email.com  Fri Jan  9 23:29:12 2009
From: Mike_Staines at email.com (Mike Staines)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:29:12 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Active 1750 meter beacons
In-Reply-To: <49676BEA.3050900@sbcglobal.net>
References: <49676BEA.3050900@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1231561752.12767.51.camel@Graybox>

Hi, Gary...

I can speak for TMO. It is on my bench as we speak. I had hoped to power
up to the Ashlock loop by this weekend but I had to push it off. It will
be on 185.3 +/- an inordiante amount of drift.

Mike
wM1ke
TMO

-----Original Message-----
From: Garry and Linda Hess <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>
Reply-To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer
bands <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
To: lowfer mailing list <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Lowfer] Active 1750 meter beacons
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:23:22 -0600

Beacons CV, EAR, MP, SJ, TAG, UWL, WEB, WMS, and XR have all been 
received recently. However, the latest "On The Air" list at 
http://www.lwca.org/sitepage/part15/ reports quite a few other beacons 
as active. This list isn't perfect (for example, CV is listed as being 
at 189.700 rather than 185.298 kHz) so I wonder if anyone out there 
knows if beacons 3OHH, BOB, TMO, WM, MPK, and R are really active, and 
if so what their frequencies/modes are?

73,
Garry
K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL
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Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 10 10:05:14 2009
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 09:05:14 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Active 1750 meter beacons
Message-ID: <4968B92A.9060902@sbcglobal.net>

To all Lowfers,

Thanks to all who responded to my query about active stations. I find 
the "On The Air" list at
http://www.lwca.org/sitepage/part15/ very helpful. In fact, without it 
my total Lowfer beacons received could would no doubt be zero. I'm 
looking forward to seeing announcements that IZJ and TMO are back on the 
air.

I appreciate the effort needed to keep a beacon running and the lack of 
feed back that usually entails, having run microwave beacons on all the 
ham bands from 903 MHz to 24 GHz (that's 7 beacons, 24/7) since the late 
1980's. That end of the spectrum doesn't exactly produce a plethora of 
reception reports either, hi.

73,
Garry, K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL 

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 10 10:15:57 2009
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 09:15:57 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon VO1NA received
Message-ID: <4968BBAD.7020706@sbcglobal.net>

Over night LF propagation was enhanced to the NE from Illinois. A number 
of new (to us) NDBs were logged in New England. So it was an opportune 
time to tune for VO1NA on 184.509 kHz. Using ARGO QRSS-60, a signal was 
evident after 0500Z, 011009. About 0545Z the letters "NA" came through. 
Unfortunately, at that point I left to look for new NDBs. Returning 
around 0700Z, only occasional traces of signal were found. In somewhat 
the opposite direction, the watering hole beacon CV didn't fade into the 
noise until 1300Z. And, of course, beacon MP remained strong even after 
sunrise.

73,
Garry, K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL

From k5wms at aristotle.net  Sat Jan 10 11:23:47 2009
From: k5wms at aristotle.net (PAUL DAULTON)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:23:47 -0500 
Subject: [Lowfer] Poor man's mw/lw wideband noise reduction
Message-ID: <20090110172347.EF8AD88077@mailman.qth.net>

I found an article in Elektor magazine feb 2005, which can be downloaded
 from Elektors's site, about
a noise reduction method.
Basically two receivers are used.The loudspeaker outputs of the two radios
 are connected in phase while 
the speaker in the second rec is disconnected. With the second receiver
 tuned a little higher or lower than
the main one the speaker of the main receiver is fed with the difference
 between the two signals. External
antennas should be connected in parallel. Using the volume adjustment on
 the second radio a setting can be 
found that should result in a reduction of noise.
Sounds good I am trying to figure out how to apply to Argo connections.
Any comments?
Paul K5wms
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 10 14:14:52 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:14:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Poor man's mw/lw wideband noise reduction
In-Reply-To: <20090110172347.EF8AD88077@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <480202.59089.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hey Paul / LOWfers:

That concept also works in the reverse. While trying to get a
better quality of sound out of cheap ( narrow ) A.M. radios,
2 radios can be tuned to a local station, and one tuned slightly
high in frequency, the other slightly low. The high frequency
response will increase noticably, with out losing the bass response.
Seperating the radios apart from one another will give a spatial
effect. And if you really want to play HI-FI; run the output of one 
radio into the left channel of a stereo amp, and the other into
the right channel. Makeshift Wideband A.M. radio that sounds pretty
darned good.

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Sat, 1/10/09, PAUL DAULTON <k5wms at aristotle.net> wrote:

> From: PAUL DAULTON <k5wms at aristotle.net>
> Subject: [Lowfer] Poor man's mw/lw wideband noise reduction
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 11:23 AM
> I found an article in Elektor magazine feb 2005, which can
> be downloaded
>  from Elektors's site, about
> a noise reduction method.
> Basically two receivers are used.The loudspeaker outputs of
> the two radios
>  are connected in phase while 
> the speaker in the second rec is disconnected. With the
> second receiver
>  tuned a little higher or lower than
> the main one the speaker of the main receiver is fed with
> the difference
>  between the two signals. External
> antennas should be connected in parallel. Using the volume
> adjustment on
>  the second radio a setting can be 
> found that should result in a reduction of noise.
> Sounds good I am trying to figure out how to apply to Argo
> connections.
> Any comments?
> Paul K5wms
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> To sub/unsub visit:
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer


      

From sthed475 at telus.net  Sat Jan 10 14:33:41 2009
From: sthed475 at telus.net (Scott Tilley)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:33:41 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Poor man's mw/lw wideband noise reduction
In-Reply-To: <20090110172347.EF8AD88077@mailman.qth.net>
References: <20090110172347.EF8AD88077@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <4968F815.5090402@telus.net>

HI Paul

A method  used here done with a small 'noise' antenna and my LF 'sense' 
antenna and then mixing the two RF signals together produces excellent 
results and even allowed me to work the Yukon from within the City of 
Vancouver...  Normally a phase shifting network is used on the noise 
signal to allow one to first adjust the phase of the noise signal 180 
degrees of the received noise on the sense antenna.  Once you have 
adjusted the phase then the amplitude of the two RF signals is adjusted 
such that the offending signal is canceled.  This is really an iterative 
thing as each back and forth adjustment further improves the canceling. 

I use such a device on 2200m to deal with my one neighbour's light 
dimmer.   It also works (very well I might add) on any signals you 
receive on both antennas so it can be used to cancel local NDBs for 
example so you you can hear the DX ones on the same frequency... 

See here for a design I modified for 2200m.  It works well in the lowfer 
band to 600m as described...

http://users.tpg.com.au/users/ldbutler/LFNoiseCancel.htm

Also see
http://www.alg.myzen.co.uk/radio/136/pre_sel.htm

73 Scott
VE7TIL


PAUL DAULTON wrote:
>
> I found an article in Elektor magazine feb 2005, which can be 
> downloaded from Elektors's site, about
>
> a noise reduction method.
>
>  
>
> Basically two receivers are used.The loudspeaker outputs of the two 
> radios are connected in phase while
>
> the speaker in the second rec is disconnected. With the second 
> receiver tuned a little higher or lower than
>
> the main one the speaker of the main receiver is fed with the 
> difference between the two signals. External
>
> antennas should be connected in parallel. Using the volume adjustment 
> on the second radio a setting can be
>
> found that should result in a reduction of noise.
>
>  
>
> Sounds good I am trying to figure out how to apply to Argo connections.
>
>  
>
> Any comments?
>
>  
>
> Paul K5wms
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>   

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 10 15:50:59 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:50:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon " XR " to try for X-Band contacts tonite @ 00:00 UTC
Message-ID: <766468.14745.qm@web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hi Everyone:

I want to try a X-Band CW experiment for about an hour tonite and see if anyone can copy " XR " in CW mode. I will begin calling CQ at 00:00 UTC 
( 7pm EST ) on my frequency at 184.322 KHz. 
I will be listening at 3.570 MHz .  I am not a proficient CW OP so please, if you do hear me and respond, keep the speed between 10 to 13 wpm.I will be looking to just basically exchange reports, short and sweet you see. Also, I will not have computer access during this time because my computer generates a +5dB over S-9 noise in the 80 meter band, so it will be off during the experiment. Hopefully my TV, and daughters computer won't kill my receiver. finally, if the frequency happens to be busy, I will find a quite one, and send QSX up / down ?? Kc's. Thanks in advance to anyone who tries tonite, even if you only hear me but can't Xmit, send an email of your reception, I will turn the computer back on at 01:00 UTC ( 8pm EST ) and check for emails.  

73 for now:

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      

From k5wms at aristotle.net  Sat Jan 10 17:52:32 2009
From: k5wms at aristotle.net (PAUL DAULTON)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:52:32 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 1 watt tx from cfc lamp
Message-ID: <20090110235234.C7001373825A@mailman.qth.net>

I found a neat project on SOLDERSMOKE BLOG. the builder has built a 1 watt
 tx out of the
parts from a CFC lamp. only five parts ,the xtal and output filter ,did
 not come from the lamp.
Evidently the lamps are good for something besides generating noise.
For details see http://mjrainey.googlepages.com/dasderelicht.
Who will be the first to put one on lowfer?
Paul k5wms
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 10 18:56:27 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:56:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] X-Band try momentarily
Message-ID: <479543.14636.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Shutting down the computer now, will turn back on at 01:00 UTC

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      

From cvest at cox.net  Sat Jan 10 20:04:51 2009
From: cvest at cox.net (Charles W5COV)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:04:51 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 1 watt tx from cfc lamp
References: <20090110235234.C7001373825A@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <DF18B6B8B21B4F58875902265587D278@gateway>

If my old eyes were what they used to be and I had more use of my hands , I have often thought of how small of a Lowfer transmitter someone could build using surface mount devices .

Charlie , W5COV

CV , 185.298 kHz . , QRSS60 , 24 / 7 , EM26ex , OK.
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 10 20:06:13 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:06:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] " XR " X-Band attempt complete
Message-ID: <189548.86985.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hey Everyone:

Not to my disappointment, but more to my expectations, my attempt
at a 1750 to 80 meter X-Band contact didn't come up with anything.
I sent CQ's for a solid hour while monitoring the designated frequency
of 3.570 MHz. Did not get any calls. Tnx to any and everyone who 
tried to hear the CW signal. 73 for now:

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Jan 10 21:11:35 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:11:35 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 PSK31
Message-ID: <000501c97391$edbb3150$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

WE2XGR/2 is transmitting PSK31 on 508.5 kHz until ~ 0400Z.

Reports appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



From mauser48 at ptd.net  Sat Jan 10 21:49:45 2009
From: mauser48 at ptd.net (rick)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:49:45 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 PSK31
References: <000501c97391$edbb3150$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <000b01c97397$431d0100$6401a8c0@RADIOROOM>

Nice copy here in Poconos (FN21) .Using  Kenwood ts-820 /homebrew converter 
and half  of and 80 meter zepp. Heres a  sample  saved from my  RXPSK 
program.

Keep up the good work!!

             Rick   KA2PBO






p
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
To: "SHMRG at piobaire.mines.ui" <SHMRG at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>; 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:11 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 PSK31


> WE2XGR/2 is transmitting PSK31 on 508.5 kHz until ~ 0400Z.
>
> Reports appreciated.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>>From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
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From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Sat Jan 10 23:18:59 2009
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:18:59 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Latest version of "The Low and Medium Frequency Scrapbook"?
References: <C523CA6BB607334C90114231C4D477040160C5@tguexmb1.conoco.net>
Message-ID: <008a01c973a4$10812660$9e62f504@classified>

A fellow on a QRP list inquired about the latest edition, his is from 1974,
mine is the 9th edition, what is available and from where can it be
obtained?

Kurt


From wd2xgj at gmail.com  Sat Jan 10 23:30:00 2009
From: wd2xgj at gmail.com (Warren Ziegler)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:30:00 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Latest version of "The Low and Medium Frequency
	Scrapbook"?
In-Reply-To: <008a01c973a4$10812660$9e62f504@classified>
References: <C523CA6BB607334C90114231C4D477040160C5@tguexmb1.conoco.net>
	<008a01c973a4$10812660$9e62f504@classified>
Message-ID: <57a24ca70901102030rd69d074jc9d291fb053b0573@mail.gmail.com>

Kurt,

      "The Low and Medium Frequency Scrapbook" was self-published by
the late Ken Cornell.
Since his death several years ago it has become unavailable except for
the occasional used copy you see now and then at a hamfest.
I picked up the 9th edition for $2 at a hamfest, (the seller said
"make me an offer", from his reaction it was obvious that he didn't
expect to get that much!)
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1



On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:18 PM, KD7JYK DM09 <kd7jyk at earthlink.net> wrote:
> A fellow on a QRP list inquired about the latest edition, his is from 1974,
> mine is the 9th edition, what is available and from where can it be
> obtained?
>
> Kurt
>

From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Sun Jan 11 00:10:47 2009
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:10:47 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Latest version of "The Low and Medium
	FrequencyScrapbook"?
References: <C523CA6BB607334C90114231C4D477040160C5@tguexmb1.conoco.net><008a01c973a4$10812660$9e62f504@classified>
	<57a24ca70901102030rd69d074jc9d291fb053b0573@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005101c973aa$fea79580$0566f504@classified>

Well...  Bummer.  I don't suppose someone has a 9th edition they'd be
interested in selling?

Kurt

----- Original Message -----

: Since his death several years ago it has become unavailable except for
: the occasional used copy you see now and then at a hamfest.


From ultra-bd at earthlink.net  Sun Jan 11 01:33:44 2009
From: ultra-bd at earthlink.net (Barry Dieser)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:33:44 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Latest version of "The Low and
	MediumFrequencyScrapbook"?
In-Reply-To: <005101c973aa$fea79580$0566f504@classified>
Message-ID: <E1LLttA-0005Su-00@pop-siberian.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I have a 10th edition that I bought from his estate after he passed away.
Unfortunately, this is the only copy I have. RIP Ken, you are missed :(.

-Barry 

-----Original Message-----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of KD7JYK DM09
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 11:11 PM
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands
Cc: ab9go at earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Latest version of "The Low and
MediumFrequencyScrapbook"?

Well...  Bummer.  I don't suppose someone has a 9th edition they'd be
interested in selling?

Kurt

----- Original Message -----

: Since his death several years ago it has become unavailable except for
: the occasional used copy you see now and then at a hamfest.

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From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Sun Jan 11 02:29:06 2009
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:29:06 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Latest version of "The Low
	andMediumFrequencyScrapbook"?
References: <E1LLttA-0005Su-00@pop-siberian.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <00c801c973c1$82233e80$0566f504@classified>

I must admit, I didn't even know he had passed. 

That really sucks.

Kurt

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barry Dieser" <ultra-bd at earthlink.net>

: I have a 10th edition that I bought from his estate after he passed away.
: Unfortunately, this is the only copy I have. RIP Ken, you are missed :(.


From cvest at cox.net  Sun Jan 11 03:30:50 2009
From: cvest at cox.net (Charles W5COV)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:30:50 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Latest version of "The LowandMediumFrequencyScrapbook"?
References: <E1LLttA-0005Su-00@pop-siberian.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<00c801c973c1$82233e80$0566f504@classified>
Message-ID: <2A6BC9AAA1B646F9B33502E2CB371952@gateway>

It is sad indeed that he is no longer with us . I have picked up 3 or 4 of 
his books , but they are a rare find.

Was there something in particular that you were looking for ? This is a 
great group of guys with a real wealth of knowledge that might be able to 
help you out .

Charlie , W5COV

CV , 185.298 kHz . , QRSS60 , 24 / 7 , EM26ex , OK. 


From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Sun Jan 11 04:33:08 2009
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:33:08 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Latest version of "The LowandMediumFrequencyScrapbook"?
References: <E1LLttA-0005Su-00@pop-siberian.atl.sa.earthlink.net><00c801c973c1$82233e80$0566f504@classified>
	<2A6BC9AAA1B646F9B33502E2CB371952@gateway>
Message-ID: <006201c973cf$fe4aa8a0$0566f504@classified>

A fellow on a QRP radio list was looking for a new version of his handbook,
the one he has is from 1975.

Kurt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles W5COV" <cvest at cox.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands"
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 00:30
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Latest version of "The
LowandMediumFrequencyScrapbook"?


: It is sad indeed that he is no longer with us . I have picked up 3 or 4 of
: his books , but they are a rare find.
:
: Was there something in particular that you were looking for ? This is a
: great group of guys with a real wealth of knowledge that might be able to
: help you out .
:
: Charlie , W5COV
:
: CV , 185.298 kHz . , QRSS60 , 24 / 7 , EM26ex , OK.
:
: _______________________________________________
: >From the Lowfer mailing list
: Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
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From tractorb at ihug.co.nz  Sun Jan 11 06:44:06 2009
From: tractorb at ihug.co.nz (Dave Brown)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:44:06 +1300
Subject: [Lowfer] Poor man's mw/lw wideband noise reduction
References: <20090110172347.EF8AD88077@mailman.qth.net>
	<4968F815.5090402@telus.net>
Message-ID: <173601c973e1$e8c01cb0$7900a8c0@athlon1200>

An LF oriented phasing system of this type was originally described by 
the late ZL2BBJ in the ZL amateur radio journal 'Break-In' in October 
1996.  Another version built by George, ZL3PN was published in the 
November 1996 issue.
The October 1998 LF column in Break-In described yet another version 
built by the late ZL3VN. These all differ from the VK5BR version (AR, 
2000)  that Scott referenced, primarily in the use of discrete 
bipolars or FETs, rather than op-amps.  I can arrange copies for those 
interested.
73
Dave, ZL3FJ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Tilley" <sthed475 at telus.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer 
bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Poor man's mw/lw wideband noise reduction


> HI Paul
>
> A method  used here done with a small 'noise' antenna and my LF 
> 'sense'
> antenna and then mixing the two RF signals together produces 
> excellent
> results and even allowed me to work the Yukon from within the City 
> of
> Vancouver...  Normally a phase shifting network is used on the noise
> signal to allow one to first adjust the phase of the noise signal 
> 180
> degrees of the received noise on the sense antenna.  Once you have
> adjusted the phase then the amplitude of the two RF signals is 
> adjusted
> such that the offending signal is canceled.  This is really an 
> iterative
> thing as each back and forth adjustment further improves the 
> canceling.
>
> I use such a device on 2200m to deal with my one neighbour's light
> dimmer.   It also works (very well I might add) on any signals you
> receive on both antennas so it can be used to cancel local NDBs for
> example so you you can hear the DX ones on the same frequency...
>
> See here for a design I modified for 2200m.  It works well in the 
> lowfer
> band to 600m as described...
>
> http://users.tpg.com.au/users/ldbutler/LFNoiseCancel.htm
>
> Also see
> http://www.alg.myzen.co.uk/radio/136/pre_sel.htm
>
> 73 Scott
> VE7TIL
>
>
> PAUL DAULTON wrote:
>>
>> I found an article in Elektor magazine feb 2005, which can be
>> downloaded from Elektors's site, about
>>
>> a noise reduction method.
>>
>>
>>
>> Basically two receivers are used.The loudspeaker outputs of the two
>> radios are connected in phase while
>>
>> the speaker in the second rec is disconnected. With the second
>> receiver tuned a little higher or lower than
>>
>> the main one the speaker of the main receiver is fed with the
>> difference between the two signals. External
>>
>> antennas should be connected in parallel. Using the volume 
>> adjustment
>> on the second radio a setting can be
>>
>> found that should result in a reduction of noise.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sounds good I am trying to figure out how to apply to Argo 
>> connections.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any comments?
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul K5wms
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> >From the Lowfer mailing list
>> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>>
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From pbarick at niu.edu  Sun Jan 11 11:13:17 2009
From: pbarick at niu.edu (Peter Barick)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:13:17 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Latest version of "The Low
	and	MediumFrequencyScrapbook"?
Message-ID: <4969C63E020000C80005E2D9@wpo.cso.niu.edu>

Kurt,

How old is your first born? ;=)
--Peter

>>> "KD7JYK DM09" <kd7jyk at earthlink.net> 01/10/09 11:11 PM >>>
Well...  Bummer.  I don't suppose someone has a 9th edition they'd be
interested in selling?

Kurt



From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 11 12:52:28 2009
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:52:28 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] VO1NA beacon received, best yet
Message-ID: <496A31DC.7070407@sbcglobal.net>

Joe, VO1NA et al,

I've been trying since late November to get a good copy of your beacon 
on 184.509 kHz. Still don't quite have it, but last night was my best 
yet. The 0747Z, 1/11/09 ARGO display clearly shows your "NA" and the 
"VO1" characters are partially in there as well. I used QRSS-60, slow 
for the capture even though I understand you are transmitting QRSS-75 
(that's not a choice with my version of ARGO) and the two good dashes 
indeed appear to be just shy of 4 minutes in duration. My ARGO capture 
compares well with that of Brian, CT1DRP shown on your web site. Thanks 
for keeping the beacon going.

73,
Garry
K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL

From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Sun Jan 11 14:23:21 2009
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:23:21 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Latest version of "The
	Lowand	MediumFrequencyScrapbook"?
References: <4969C63E020000C80005E2D9@wpo.cso.niu.edu>
Message-ID: <00d901c97422$2a1e2ae0$0b66f504@classified>

I don't know who my first born is, let alone the mother...  I suspect a
Swiss\Peruvian Opera Singer\Nurse\Artist I met while in college.

Kurt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Barick" <pbarick at niu.edu>

: How old is your first born? ;=)


From holdahl at kc3ol.dynip.com  Sun Jan 11 19:06:52 2009
From: holdahl at kc3ol.dynip.com (Ted Holdahl)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:06:52 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Conditions tonight
Message-ID: <000d01c97449$ac72d050$055870f0$@dynip.com>

I think that conditions will be good tonight.  I am hearing we2xgr/6 quite
strong and it's only 6 PM here.

Ted, KC3OL

www.kc3ol.dynip.com/grabber

 

 

 

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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 11 19:40:42 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:40:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Anyone interested in in some LOWfer CW ??
Message-ID: <88199.16460.qm@web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hey All:

I will do some manual CW for awhile if anyone wants to see 
if they can here " XR " in CW mode. Reports could be sent by 
email. could try for maybe 30 to 60 min or so.
Any interest ??

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      

From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Sun Jan 11 20:01:03 2009
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:01:03 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Poor man's mw/lw wideband noise reduction
In-Reply-To: <173601c973e1$e8c01cb0$7900a8c0@athlon1200>
References: <20090110172347.EF8AD88077@mailman.qth.net>
	<4968F815.5090402@telus.net>
	<173601c973e1$e8c01cb0$7900a8c0@athlon1200>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP35DEBF5F6C112C5BF57916E9D80@phx.gbl>

These all differ from the VK5BR version (AR,
> 2000)  that Scott referenced, primarily in the use of discrete
> bipolars or FETs, rather than op-amps.  I can arrange copies for those
> interested.

Sounds like what I need - I would appreciate copies Dave.

Thanks

Mitch  'MP' 185301

From we0h at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 11 20:07:55 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:07:55 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Poor man's mw/lw wideband noise reduction
In-Reply-To: <173601c973e1$e8c01cb0$7900a8c0@athlon1200>
References: <20090110172347.EF8AD88077@mailman.qth.net>	<4968F815.5090402@telus.net>
	<173601c973e1$e8c01cb0$7900a8c0@athlon1200>
Message-ID: <496A97EB.7010901@yahoo.com>

Hi Dave,

Can you send a copy to me also? I will put it on my website if you don't 
mind and post the link on this reflector.

Thanks much,
Mike
WE0H



Dave wrote:
> An LF oriented phasing system of this type was originally described by 
> the late ZL2BBJ in the ZL amateur radio journal 'Break-In' in October 
> 1996.  Another version built by George, ZL3PN was published in the 
> November 1996 issue.
> The October 1998 LF column in Break-In described yet another version 
> built by the late ZL3VN. These all differ from the VK5BR version (AR, 
> 2000)  that Scott referenced, primarily in the use of discrete 
> bipolars or FETs, rather than op-amps.  I can arrange copies for those 
> interested.
> 73
> Dave, ZL3FJ

From sthed475 at telus.net  Sun Jan 11 20:11:20 2009
From: sthed475 at telus.net (Scott Tilley)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:11:20 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Poor man's mw/lw wideband noise reduction
In-Reply-To: <496A97EB.7010901@yahoo.com>
References: <20090110172347.EF8AD88077@mailman.qth.net>	<4968F815.5090402@telus.net>	<173601c973e1$e8c01cb0$7900a8c0@athlon1200>
	<496A97EB.7010901@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <496A98B8.9080904@telus.net>

Hi Guys

I posted the wrong link for another canceler design using discrete 
transistors.  Here's the correct one:
http://www.alg.myzen.co.uk/radio/136/noise_can.htm

73 Scott
VE7TIL

Mike-WE0H wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> Can you send a copy to me also? I will put it on my website if you don't 
> mind and post the link on this reflector.
>
> Thanks much,
> Mike
> WE0H
>
>
>
> Dave wrote:
>   
>> An LF oriented phasing system of this type was originally described by 
>> the late ZL2BBJ in the ZL amateur radio journal 'Break-In' in October 
>> 1996.  Another version built by George, ZL3PN was published in the 
>> November 1996 issue.
>> The October 1998 LF column in Break-In described yet another version 
>> built by the late ZL3VN. These all differ from the VK5BR version (AR, 
>> 2000)  that Scott referenced, primarily in the use of discrete 
>> bipolars or FETs, rather than op-amps.  I can arrange copies for those 
>> interested.
>> 73
>> Dave, ZL3FJ
>>     
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>
>   

From wd2xgj at gmail.com  Sun Jan 11 20:47:02 2009
From: wd2xgj at gmail.com (Warren Ziegler)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:47:02 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Conditions tonight
In-Reply-To: <000d01c97449$ac72d050$055870f0$@dynip.com>
References: <000d01c97449$ac72d050$055870f0$@dynip.com>
Message-ID: <57a24ca70901111747v42b4de59ic772a87905071e57@mail.gmail.com>

Ted,
          Listen for us on upper sideband 510kHz at 02:00 UTC
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1




On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Ted Holdahl <holdahl at kc3ol.dynip.com> wrote:
> I think that conditions will be good tonight.  I am hearing we2xgr/6 quite
> strong and it's only 6 PM here.
>
> Ted, KC3OL
>
> www.kc3ol.dynip.com/grabber
>

From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sun Jan 11 21:33:59 2009
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (J. B. Weazle McCreath)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 02:33:59 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] XGR/6
Message-ID: <001301c9745e$3ebd21e0$0b01a8c0@weazle>

Hello Lowfers,

Wow...the band is sure up this evening.  I just came up from the
family room where I'd been watching  TV to investigate what the
loud beeping was.  It's XGR/6's CW ID just pounding into this
QTH at 02:20 utc!!  It's so strong that I can copy the signal on
my 137 kHz. tuned loop, albeit at a much reduced level.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle



From sthed475 at telus.net  Sun Jan 11 23:39:10 2009
From: sthed475 at telus.net (Scott Tilley)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:39:10 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness...
Message-ID: <496AC96E.9090501@telus.net>

Hi All

If you're not convinced a noise canceler is worth your while have a 
listen to this real world recording:
http://www3.telus.net/sthed/lf/canceler/noise_cancel_2.wav

Here I take out completely a dreaded light dimmer which is swamping my 
RX and after adjustment of the box all I'm left with is the Loran 
chatter in the 2200m wateringhole...

73 Scott
VE7TIL



From we0h at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 11 23:55:15 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:55:15 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 600MRG> Noise Canceler Effectiveness...
In-Reply-To: <496AC96E.9090501@telus.net>
References: <496AC96E.9090501@telus.net>
Message-ID: <496ACD33.1060506@yahoo.com>

That is a night & day difference. Neat stuff Scott!!!

Mike



Scott  wrote:
> Hi All
>
> If you're not convinced a noise canceler is worth your while have a 
> listen to this real world recording:
> http://www3.telus.net/sthed/lf/canceler/noise_cancel_2.wav
>
> Here I take out completely a dreaded light dimmer which is swamping my 
> RX and after adjustment of the box all I'm left with is the Loran 
> chatter in the 2200m wateringhole...
>
> 73 Scott
> VE7TIL

From holdahl at kc3ol.dynip.com  Mon Jan 12 07:26:09 2009
From: holdahl at kc3ol.dynip.com (Ted Holdahl)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 06:26:09 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] good copy of "MP" in Kansas
Message-ID: <002a01c974b0$f367c4e0$da374ea0$@dynip.com>

I had good copy of "MP" in London, Ontario last night.

Here is my Argo capture:
http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394

 

Ted, KC3OL

 

 

 

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From pete at pcranwell.com  Mon Jan 12 08:16:15 2009
From: pete at pcranwell.com (Peter Cranwell)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:16:15 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Poor man's mw/lw wideband noise reduction
In-Reply-To: <173601c973e1$e8c01cb0$7900a8c0@athlon1200>
References: <20090110172347.EF8AD88077@mailman.qth.net><4968F815.5090402@telus.net>
	<173601c973e1$e8c01cb0$7900a8c0@athlon1200>
Message-ID: <DD5DC46F5E394EDCA3BF567B2B880C3B@Tower>

I would appreciate a copy.

Thanks

Pete
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Brown" <tractorb at ihug.co.nz>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Poor man's mw/lw wideband noise reduction


> An LF oriented phasing system of this type was originally described by
> the late ZL2BBJ in the ZL amateur radio journal 'Break-In' in October
> 1996.  Another version built by George, ZL3PN was published in the
> November 1996 issue.
> The October 1998 LF column in Break-In described yet another version
> built by the late ZL3VN. These all differ from the VK5BR version (AR,
> 2000)  that Scott referenced, primarily in the use of discrete
> bipolars or FETs, rather than op-amps.  I can arrange copies for those
> interested.
> 73
> Dave, ZL3FJ
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Scott Tilley" <sthed475 at telus.net>
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer
> bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Poor man's mw/lw wideband noise reduction
>
>
>> HI Paul
>>
>> A method  used here done with a small 'noise' antenna and my LF
>> 'sense'
>> antenna and then mixing the two RF signals together produces
>> excellent
>> results and even allowed me to work the Yukon from within the City
>> of
>> Vancouver...  Normally a phase shifting network is used on the noise
>> signal to allow one to first adjust the phase of the noise signal
>> 180
>> degrees of the received noise on the sense antenna.  Once you have
>> adjusted the phase then the amplitude of the two RF signals is
>> adjusted
>> such that the offending signal is canceled.  This is really an
>> iterative
>> thing as each back and forth adjustment further improves the
>> canceling.
>>
>> I use such a device on 2200m to deal with my one neighbour's light
>> dimmer.   It also works (very well I might add) on any signals you
>> receive on both antennas so it can be used to cancel local NDBs for
>> example so you you can hear the DX ones on the same frequency...
>>
>> See here for a design I modified for 2200m.  It works well in the
>> lowfer
>> band to 600m as described...
>>
>> http://users.tpg.com.au/users/ldbutler/LFNoiseCancel.htm
>>
>> Also see
>> http://www.alg.myzen.co.uk/radio/136/pre_sel.htm
>>
>> 73 Scott
>> VE7TIL
>>
>>
>> PAUL DAULTON wrote:
>>>
>>> I found an article in Elektor magazine feb 2005, which can be
>>> downloaded from Elektors's site, about
>>>
>>> a noise reduction method.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Basically two receivers are used.The loudspeaker outputs of the two
>>> radios are connected in phase while
>>>
>>> the speaker in the second rec is disconnected. With the second
>>> receiver tuned a little higher or lower than
>>>
>>> the main one the speaker of the main receiver is fed with the
>>> difference between the two signals. External
>>>
>>> antennas should be connected in parallel. Using the volume
>>> adjustment
>>> on the second radio a setting can be
>>>
>>> found that should result in a reduction of noise.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds good I am trying to figure out how to apply to Argo
>>> connections.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any comments?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul K5wms
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >From the Lowfer mailing list
>>> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>>> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>>From the Lowfer mailing list
>> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>
>
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>
>
>
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 12 09:48:47 2009
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:48:47 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG Wolf10 decoded
Message-ID: <496B584F.50901@sbcglobal.net>

Despite the gloomy propagation reports by the 500 kHz group and the 
harsh winter weather, Lowfer beacon TAG soldiers on. Decodes took a long 
time but did work for several Wolf10 passes early morning 1/12/09. A 
real testament to the signaling capability of the Wolf mode.

2009-01-12 08:18:04 >WOLF10  -r 10800.690 -f 400 -t 2.0 -w 0.0000 -ut
08:18:28 f: 0.001 a: 0.1 dp: 89.4 ci: 0 cj:233 1XOEDW6TOQ2DC4L ?
08:18:52 f: 0.001 a: 0.1 dp: 89.5 ci:14 cj:  1 MPBP1AY75I3IV9V ?
08:19:40 f: 0.000 a: 0.3 dp: 89.8 ci: 0 cj:449 47CE4G*K9TYO0OS ?
08:21:16 f: 0.732 pm:7.785 jm:280 q:-14.1 -8.4 S4 2TT96KMUO8YR ?
08:22:52 f: 1.924 pm:8.627 jm:343 q:-10.7 -8.3 VY630F4N4IKKMLC ?
08:24:28 f: 1.924 pm:9.183 jm:343 q: -9.7 -8.6 LVTX*20IDNFOUYO ?
08:26:04 f:-1.826 pm:9.653 jm:222 q:-10.6 -8.0 G6UU6K3IYURTCRL ?
08:27:40 f:-1.553 pm:10.56 jm:204 q: -9.6 -7.8 ./30GWVIF1MW48L ?
08:29:16 f: 0.801 pm:11.42 jm:306 q: -7.8 -8.7 6ZP8CT9UI7ZRSJW ?
08:30:52 f: 1.455 pm:11.97 jm: 88 q: -9.2 -8.6  NMI49169M04YOV ?
08:32:28 f: 1.455 pm:12.66 jm: 88 q: -8.7 -5.8 17TEI0.AWNS.IAL -
08:34:04 f: 1.455 pm:13.17 jm: 88 q: -8.4 -5.8 17TEI0.AWNS.IAL ?
08:35:40 f: 1.455 pm:13.21 jm: 88 q: -8.1 -8.5 09DEI09E9DJMIAL ?
08:37:16 f:-0.088 pm:13.48 jm:729 q: -5.3 -7.6 6D9DZO V06YGR1M ?
08:38:52 f:-0.088 pm:15.71 jm:729 q: -4.7 -8.1 *575YKIEP7.T??? ?
08:40:28 f:-0.088 pm:16.98 jm:729 q: -4.2 -9.0 XFE28R116/CYO5B ?
08:42:04 f:-0.088 pm:17.64 jm:729 q: -3.7 -7.6 CUB8O.IEP7.UCU2 ?
08:43:40 f:-0.088 pm:18.03 jm:729 q: -3.6 -7.6 P44RM2 /HE8ECU2 ?
08:45:16 f:-0.088 pm:18.14 jm:729 q: -3.3 -7.5 P44RM2 /HE8ECU2 ?
08:46:52 f:-0.088 pm:18.24 jm:729 q: -3.0 -7.6 P44RM2 /HE8ECU2 ?
08:48:28 f:-0.088 pm:18.84 jm:729 q: -2.6 -7.5 P44RM2 /HE8ECU2 ?
08:50:04 f:-0.088 pm:20.03 jm:729 q: -2.4 -7.3 P44RM2 /HE8ECU2 ?
08:51:40 f:-0.088 pm:20.13 jm:729 q: -2.4 -7.5 P44RM2 /HE8ECU2 ?
08:53:16 f:-0.088 pm:20.53 jm:729 q: -2.5 -8.8 YNE*CBI8/ XY.9* ?
08:54:52 f:-0.088 pm:21.95 jm:729 q: -2.1 -5.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
.
.
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2009-01-12 09:11:01 >WOLF10  -r 10800.690 -f 400 -t 2.0 -w 0.0000 -ut
09:11:25 f: 0.001 a: 0.1 dp: 89.7 ci: 0 cj:  0   WT.XYWTA87*V5 ?
09:11:49 f: 0.001 a: 0.2 dp: 89.8 ci:13 cj: 43 T.*7OGRAS/X3CEK ?
09:12:37 f: 0.000 a: 0.2 dp: 89.9 ci: 8 cj: 72 Q02ZEIM7A0NT89W ?
09:14:13 f:-0.801 pm:6.928 jm:956 q:-13.8 -8.6 DP.ETEMV*XPYFDG ?
09:15:49 f: 0.195 pm:8.265 jm:283 q:-12.6 -8.5 P2GZQ7YSWUQTFSO ?
09:17:25 f: 0.195 pm:8.272 jm:283 q:-11.5 -6.4 X2RA97D7 L6SNGK ?
09:19:01 f:-1.875 pm:9.468 jm:231 q: -9.6 -5.9 BIGSKLD.I/8G5F9 -
09:20:37 f: 0.645 pm:13.81 jm:494 q: -9.5 -6.1 DZU.SA37XW8U34K ?
09:22:13 f: 0.645 pm:14.54 jm:494 q: -8.8 -8.1 VWQZ1Y0ITA01.*I ?
09:23:49 f: 0.645 pm:14.83 jm:494 q: -8.1 -8.0 KL.ROIWX05G4ZZY ?
09:25:25 f:-0.098 pm:16.43 jm:638 q: -4.9 -6.1 /PVECLSW9H7N2PT -
09:27:01 f:-0.098 pm:18.11 jm:638 q: -4.7 -7.6 QIIGIQRZHF63 JW ?
09:28:37 f:-0.098 pm:20.90 jm:638 q: -4.4 -8.5 AMG/KLU8*4FHF25 ?
09:30:13 f:-0.098 pm:22.54 jm:638 q: -4.1 -8.9 Z23XJ*W9T96C.6K ?
09:31:49 f:-0.098 pm:23.47 jm:638 q: -4.2 -6.8 DR.*YQ.8KELSXAP ?
09:33:25 f:-0.098 pm:25.42 jm:638 q: -4.1 -7.6 /PVEDSB1DVMB40X ?
09:35:01 f:-0.098 pm:27.94 jm:638 q: -3.9 -8.7 FFNU3IEON .MU4I ?
09:36:37 f:-0.098 pm:29.27 jm:638 q: -3.4 -9.3 EKZONJDQBJG Q1K ?
09:38:13 f:-0.098 pm:31.02 jm:638 q: -3.3 -6.8 R1RBM42L9/.YX2/ ?
09:39:49 f:-0.098 pm:32.72 jm:638 q: -3.1 -7.3 1WG5PLT0BN.OI1Q ?
09:41:25 f:-0.098 pm:34.63 jm:638 q: -2.9 -6.0 U5V*8XCIRN.OI1Q -
09:43:01 f:-0.098 pm:37.77 jm:638 q: -2.7 -6.0 U5V*8XCIRN.OI1Q -
09:44:37 f:-0.098 pm:39.15 jm:638 q: -2.6 -6.5 TAG RAYMONDFU4B ?
09:46:13 f:-0.098 pm:40.55 jm:638 q: -2.3 -6.3 TAG RAYMONDFU4B ?
09:47:49 f:-0.098 pm:41.36 jm:638 q: -2.2 -6.4 TAG RAYMONDFU4B ?
09:49:25 f:-0.098 pm:42.74 jm:638 q: -1.8 -6.4 TAG RAYMONDFU4B ?
09:51:01 f:-0.098 pm:43.27 jm:638 q: -1.9 -6.5 TAG RAYMONDFU4B ?
09:52:37 f:-0.098 pm:43.65 jm:638 q: -1.9 -5.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
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2009-01-12 10:03:58 >WOLF10  -r 10800.690 -f 400 -t 2.0 -w 0.0000 -ut
10:04:22 f:-0.002 a: 0.4 dp: 91.1 ci:13 cj:414 CVMBZE4WR3*F41D ?
10:04:46 f:-0.001 a: 0.3 dp: 91.3 ci:15 cj:258 FP*O7BENIN4OE.Q ?
10:05:34 f: 0.000 a: 0.2 dp: 91.0 ci: 8 cj: 63 RQCFMLSXC6A DIV ?
10:07:10 f: 0.557 pm:3.032 jm:101 q:-14.4 -6.0 UB.Z*7YAA/SOS.B -
10:08:46 f:-1.748 pm:4.867 jm:576 q:-13.1 -8.4 TX9F*ZWW P6VGX0 ?
10:10:22 f: 1.396 pm:5.591 jm:508 q:-11.5 -5.6 V566NNOEN566IUY -
10:11:58 f: 1.396 pm:5.974 jm:508 q:-10.2 -6.1 4SPC4YY5F0HE??? -
10:13:34 f: 0.479 pm:7.532 jm:812 q: -9.6 -7.1 37*T.X./WK2S8NR ?
10:15:10 f: 1.748 pm:9.661 jm:  6 q: -9.2 -8.3 7*9W* ???1QTET7 ?
10:16:46 f: 1.748 pm:9.880 jm:  6 q: -9.0 -8.5 9/6QH6 FMMV7SXK ?
10:18:22 f: 1.748 pm:10.21 jm:  6 q: -8.0 -8.6 O.I1PL1C83OFNYV ?
10:19:58 f:-1.035 pm:11.12 jm: 11 q: -8.0 -8.5 42.ZCVA0.JHT8QJ ?
10:21:34 f:-0.635 pm:12.19 jm:913 q: -7.6 -8.3 5J5S4SA9ZYVKO8D ?
10:23:10 f:-0.098 pm:12.44 jm:547 q: -5.2 -5.9 2204XDT6AM0Y3WX -
10:24:46 f:-0.098 pm:14.52 jm:547 q: -3.9 -5.9 2204XDT6AM0Y3WX -
10:26:22 f:-0.098 pm:17.06 jm:547 q: -3.7 -5.7 2204XDT6AM0Y3WX -
10:27:58 f:-0.098 pm:18.57 jm:547 q: -3.3 -5.5 2204XDT6AM0Y3WX -
10:29:34 f:-0.098 pm:21.43 jm:547 q: -2.6 -5.9 2204XDT6AM0Y3WX -
10:31:10 f:-0.098 pm:24.68 jm:547 q: -2.4 -5.8 2204XDT6AM0Y3WX -
10:32:46 f:-0.098 pm:28.68 jm:547 q: -2.2 -5.7 2204XDT6AM0Y3WX -
10:34:22 f:-0.098 pm:31.71 jm:547 q: -2.3 -5.7 2204XDT6AM0Y3WX -
10:35:58 f:-0.098 pm:34.74 jm:547 q: -1.6 -5.9 2204XDT6AM0Y3WX -
10:37:34 f:-0.098 pm:36.00 jm:547 q: -1.8 -8.4 6S/ .IJ1YRZHX*7 ?
10:39:10 f:-0.098 pm:37.41 jm:547 q: -1.8 -6.4 SWXH 5OM  O6/PC ?
10:40:46 f:-0.098 pm:39.84 jm:547 q: -1.3 -7.0 TAG RAYMOND TE0 ?
10:42:22 f:-0.098 pm:42.22 jm:547 q: -1.0 -7.7 TAG RAYMOND TE/ ?
10:43:58 f:-0.098 pm:43.55 jm:547 q: -1.0 -5.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -


73,
Garry, K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL     914 miles from TAG

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 12 09:57:55 2009
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:57:55 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacons SJ and WMS copied in EN52
Message-ID: <496B5A73.8040903@sbcglobal.net>

After listening for TAG this morning I looked for beacon SJ on 186.850 
kHz, QRSS-10. It was good copy around 1200Z. The antenna was then 
pointed toward beacon WMS on 187.492 kHz, QRSS-30 in time to catch "MS" 
before sunrise fade.

73,
Garry, K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 12 15:09:16 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:09:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Light Dimmer -  Noise Canceler Effectiveness...
In-Reply-To: <496ACD33.1060506@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <229771.10394.qm@web63605.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Man !!! I'm sold !!! That is incredible how it eliminated the noise.
Scott, have you found it to be effective against TV, and computer
source noises ?? They as you know move around in frequency. 
I've now got to read up on this more. Your recording made the 
difference in just a bunch of ramble, versus the pudding with the
proof inside. 73 OM:

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Sun, 1/11/09, Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] 600MRG> Noise Canceler Effectiveness...
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>, "shmrg" <shmrg at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>
> Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 11:55 PM
> That is a night & day difference. Neat stuff Scott!!!
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> Scott  wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> > If you're not convinced a noise canceler is worth
> your while have a 
> > listen to this real world recording:
> >
> http://www3.telus.net/sthed/lf/canceler/noise_cancel_2.wav
> >
> > Here I take out completely a dreaded light dimmer
> which is swamping my 
> > RX and after adjustment of the box all I'm left
> with is the Loran 
> > chatter in the 2200m wateringhole...
> >
> > 73 Scott
> > VE7TIL
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 12 15:15:13 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:15:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Article copies -  mw/lw wideband noise reduction
In-Reply-To: <DD5DC46F5E394EDCA3BF567B2B880C3B@Tower>
Message-ID: <899114.74358.qm@web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Greetings Dave:

I would greatly appreciate a copy of this information. I can
take it as a .zip , or a .pdf , .doc , plain text. The only
file I can't open at present is Excel.  If you will put me on
your list I will appreciate it.  73, and GudDay

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Peter Cranwell <pete at pcranwell.com> wrote:

> From: Peter Cranwell <pete at pcranwell.com>
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Poor man's mw/lw wideband noise reduction
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 8:16 AM
> I would appreciate a copy.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Pete
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Brown" <tractorb at ihug.co.nz>
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European,
> &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" 
> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 6:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Poor man's mw/lw wideband noise
> reduction
> 
> 
> > An LF oriented phasing system of this type was
> originally described by
> > the late ZL2BBJ in the ZL amateur radio journal
> 'Break-In' in October
> > 1996.  Another version built by George, ZL3PN was
> published in the
> > November 1996 issue.
> > The October 1998 LF column in Break-In described yet
> another version
> > built by the late ZL3VN. These all differ from the
> VK5BR version (AR,
> > 2000)  that Scott referenced, primarily in the use of
> discrete
> > bipolars or FETs, rather than op-amps.  I can arrange
> copies for those
> > interested.
> > 73
> > Dave, ZL3FJ
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Scott Tilley"
> <sthed475 at telus.net>
> > To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European,
> &amp;UK) and MedFer
> > bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Poor man's mw/lw wideband
> noise reduction
> >
> >
> >> HI Paul
> >>
> >> A method  used here done with a small
> 'noise' antenna and my LF
> >> 'sense'
> >> antenna and then mixing the two RF signals
> together produces
> >> excellent
> >> results and even allowed me to work the Yukon from
> within the City
> >> of
> >> Vancouver...  Normally a phase shifting network is
> used on the noise
> >> signal to allow one to first adjust the phase of
> the noise signal
> >> 180
> >> degrees of the received noise on the sense
> antenna.  Once you have
> >> adjusted the phase then the amplitude of the two
> RF signals is
> >> adjusted
> >> such that the offending signal is canceled.  This
> is really an
> >> iterative
> >> thing as each back and forth adjustment further
> improves the
> >> canceling.
> >>
> >> I use such a device on 2200m to deal with my one
> neighbour's light
> >> dimmer.   It also works (very well I might add) on
> any signals you
> >> receive on both antennas so it can be used to
> cancel local NDBs for
> >> example so you you can hear the DX ones on the
> same frequency...
> >>
> >> See here for a design I modified for 2200m.  It
> works well in the
> >> lowfer
> >> band to 600m as described...
> >>
> >>
> http://users.tpg.com.au/users/ldbutler/LFNoiseCancel.htm
> >>
> >> Also see
> >> http://www.alg.myzen.co.uk/radio/136/pre_sel.htm
> >>
> >> 73 Scott
> >> VE7TIL
> >>
> >>
> >> PAUL DAULTON wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I found an article in Elektor magazine feb
> 2005, which can be
> >>> downloaded from Elektors's site, about
> >>>
> >>> a noise reduction method.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Basically two receivers are used.The
> loudspeaker outputs of the two
> >>> radios are connected in phase while
> >>>
> >>> the speaker in the second rec is disconnected.
> With the second
> >>> receiver tuned a little higher or lower than
> >>>
> >>> the main one the speaker of the main receiver
> is fed with the
> >>> difference between the two signals. External
> >>>
> >>> antennas should be connected in parallel.
> Using the volume
> >>> adjustment
> >>> on the second radio a setting can be
> >>>
> >>> found that should result in a reduction of
> noise.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sounds good I am trying to figure out how to
> apply to Argo
> >>> connections.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Any comments?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Paul K5wms
> >>>
> >>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
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> >
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 12 15:22:03 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:22:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG Wolf10 decoded
In-Reply-To: <496B584F.50901@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <804813.99510.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Good job Garry:

I am 915 miles from " TAG " and I decoded about like you did.

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr





      

From k5wms at aristotle.net  Mon Jan 12 14:49:11 2009
From: k5wms at aristotle.net (PAUL DAULTON)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:49:11 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacons SJ and WMS copied in EN52
Message-ID: <20090112204908.41503373871F@mailman.qth.net>

Thats great distance for qrss10. Does anyone remember what the db
 advantage between each step of 
qrss. Its not as simple as gain-bandwidth product. Some where I saw a
 table of the gain between qrss30 and 60 and 
the other steps.
Thanks for the report on WMS.
Paul k5wms
Jacksonville,Ar
em34wu
WMS beacon 187492hz qrss 30, 24/7
-----Original Message-----
From: Garry and Linda Hess <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:57:55 -0600
To: lowfer mailing list <lowfer at mailman.qth.net> 
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacons SJ and WMS copied in EN52
 
 
After listening for TAG this morning I looked for beacon SJ on 186.850  
kHz, QRSS-10. It was good copy around 1200Z. The antenna was then  
pointed toward beacon WMS on 187.492 kHz, QRSS-30 in time to catch "MS"  
before sunrise fade.  
 
73,  
Garry, K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL  
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From sthed475 at telus.net  Mon Jan 12 22:06:14 2009
From: sthed475 at telus.net (Scott Tilley)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:06:14 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Light Dimmer -  Noise Canceler Effectiveness...
In-Reply-To: <229771.10394.qm@web63605.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <229771.10394.qm@web63605.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <496C0526.3000805@telus.net>

Hi Andy

It will work on any signal you can copy on both your noise and sense 
antenna.

I haven't found a noise or signal for that matter that couldn't be 
twiddled away.

Now the next issues is if you have multiple noise sources...

73 Scott


Andy - KU4XR wrote:
> Man !!! I'm sold !!! That is incredible how it eliminated the noise.
> Scott, have you found it to be effective against TV, and computer
> source noises ?? They as you know move around in frequency. 
> I've now got to read up on this more. Your recording made the 
> difference in just a bunch of ramble, versus the pudding with the
> proof inside. 73 OM:
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
> Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
> http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr
>
>
> --- On Sun, 1/11/09, Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] 600MRG> Noise Canceler Effectiveness...
>> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>, "shmrg" <shmrg at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>
>> Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 11:55 PM
>> That is a night & day difference. Neat stuff Scott!!!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott  wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> If you're not convinced a noise canceler is worth
>>>       
>> your while have a 
>>     
>>> listen to this real world recording:
>>>
>>>       
>> http://www3.telus.net/sthed/lf/canceler/noise_cancel_2.wav
>>     
>>> Here I take out completely a dreaded light dimmer
>>>       
>> which is swamping my 
>>     
>>> RX and after adjustment of the box all I'm left
>>>       
>> with is the Loran 
>>     
>>> chatter in the 2200m wateringhole...
>>>
>>> 73 Scott
>>> VE7TIL
>>>       
>> _______________________________________________
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From nss at mwt.net  Mon Jan 12 22:18:01 2009
From: nss at mwt.net (Joe)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:18:01 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Light Dimmer -  Noise Canceler Effectiveness...
In-Reply-To: <229771.10394.qm@web63605.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <229771.10394.qm@web63605.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <496C07E9.4080607@mwt.net>

wow  that was cool,,

soo  how does this work?

Andy - KU4XR wrote:

>Man !!! I'm sold !!! That is incredible how it eliminated the noise.
>Scott, have you found it to be effective against TV, and computer
>source noises ?? They as you know move around in frequency. 
>I've now got to read up on this more. Your recording made the 
>difference in just a bunch of ramble, versus the pudding with the
>proof inside. 73 OM:
>
>Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
>LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
>Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
>http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr
>
>
>--- On Sun, 1/11/09, Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>From: Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Lowfer] 600MRG> Noise Canceler Effectiveness...
>>To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>, "shmrg" <shmrg at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>
>>Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 11:55 PM
>>That is a night & day difference. Neat stuff Scott!!!
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>Scott  wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Hi All
>>>
>>>If you're not convinced a noise canceler is worth
>>>      
>>>
>>your while have a 
>>    
>>
>>>listen to this real world recording:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>http://www3.telus.net/sthed/lf/canceler/noise_cancel_2.wav
>>    
>>
>>>Here I take out completely a dreaded light dimmer
>>>      
>>>
>>which is swamping my 
>>    
>>
>>>RX and after adjustment of the box all I'm left
>>>      
>>>
>>with is the Loran 
>>    
>>
>>>chatter in the 2200m wateringhole...
>>>
>>>73 Scott
>>>VE7TIL
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
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From sthed475 at telus.net  Mon Jan 12 22:35:04 2009
From: sthed475 at telus.net (Scott Tilley)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:35:04 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Light Dimmer -  Noise Canceler Effectiveness...
In-Reply-To: <496C07E9.4080607@mwt.net>
References: <229771.10394.qm@web63605.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<496C07E9.4080607@mwt.net>
Message-ID: <496C0BE8.2020506@telus.net>

By the Principle of 'Superposition'.

Google it...
*
*
Joe wrote:
> wow  that was cool,,
>
> soo  how does this work?
>
> Andy - KU4XR wrote:
>> Man !!! I'm sold !!! That is incredible how it eliminated the noise.
>> Scott, have you found it to be effective against TV, and computer
>> source noises ?? They as you know move around in frequency. 
>> I've now got to read up on this more. Your recording made the 
>> difference in just a bunch of ramble, versus the pudding with the
>> proof inside. 73 OM:
>>
>> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
>> LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
>> Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
>> http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr
>>
>>
>> --- On Sun, 1/11/09, Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> From: Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] 600MRG> Noise Canceler Effectiveness...
>>> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>, "shmrg" <shmrg at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>
>>> Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 11:55 PM
>>> That is a night & day difference. Neat stuff Scott!!!
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Scott  wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Hi All
>>>>
>>>> If you're not convinced a noise canceler is worth
>>>>       
>>> your while have a 
>>>     
>>>> listen to this real world recording:
>>>>
>>>>       
>>> http://www3.telus.net/sthed/lf/canceler/noise_cancel_2.wav
>>>     
>>>> Here I take out completely a dreaded light dimmer
>>>>       
>>> which is swamping my 
>>>     
>>>> RX and after adjustment of the box all I'm left
>>>>       
>>> with is the Loran 
>>>     
>>>> chatter in the 2200m wateringhole...
>>>>
>>>> 73 Scott
>>>> VE7TIL
>>>>       
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >From the Lowfer mailing list
>>> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>>> To sub/unsub visit:
>>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
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>>
>>
>>       
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 12 23:14:58 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:14:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it works
In-Reply-To: <496C0BE8.2020506@telus.net>
Message-ID: <753034.16310.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Scott Tilley <sthed475 at telus.net> wrote:


> By the Principle of 'Superposition'.

Could this elementary definition give a basic comprehension of
the principle??  " Equal amplitudes, of opposite polarity / phase
will cancel out each other " An experiment; take 2 nine volt
batteries and connect them + to -, just plug them together.
Measure the voltage on the terminals, and you'll get near Zero
depending on the voltage level of each battery. NOTE !!! DON'T
leave them connected for long, they could explode !!!

On the Noise Canceller; you have a noise on the Main Ant. and the
same noise on a Sensing / Aux. ant. by using the amplification
on the sensing ant. once you get the noise levels equal in 
amplitude, but opposite in phase, they will cancel each other out,
and " Away goes the noise !! "

This isn't a Quantum Physics description, but I hope it's on track.



Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr





      

From dodgeboy73 at comcast.net  Mon Jan 12 23:27:30 2009
From: dodgeboy73 at comcast.net (Dave Benham)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:27:30 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it works
In-Reply-To: <753034.16310.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <EF316A2EF2AA416B8D7877797A46E686@Dad>

So if I leave my noise canceler on too long, my radio might explode?  :o)
 

-----Original Message-----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Andy - KU4XR
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:15 PM
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European,& UK) and MedFer bands
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it works

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Scott Tilley <sthed475 at telus.net> wrote:


> By the Principle of 'Superposition'.

Could this elementary definition give a basic comprehension of the
principle??  " Equal amplitudes, of opposite polarity / phase will cancel
out each other " An experiment; take 2 nine volt batteries and connect them
+ to -, just plug them together.
Measure the voltage on the terminals, and you'll get near Zero depending on
the voltage level of each battery. NOTE !!! DON'T leave them connected for
long, they could explode !!!

On the Noise Canceller; you have a noise on the Main Ant. and the same noise
on a Sensing / Aux. ant. by using the amplification on the sensing ant. once
you get the noise levels equal in amplitude, but opposite in phase, they
will cancel each other out, and " Away goes the noise !! "

This isn't a Quantum Physics description, but I hope it's on track.



Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr





      
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From k5wms at aristotle.net  Mon Jan 12 22:53:54 2009
From: k5wms at aristotle.net (PAUL DAULTON)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:53:54 -0500 
Subject: [Lowfer] test of poor mans noise eliminator
Message-ID: <20090113045348.1BD23373822A@mailman.qth.net>

I made a trial run with two ts50 fed into my computer with a "Y" connector.
I ran Spectran. with one tuned a few khz higher I could vary the volume
 and see a reduction
in the noise floor on the spectran sweep display. No beacon signals
 available at the time.
but not everyone has two rec so I like the op-amp noise cancellation much
 better. Looks 
like that will be the next project.
Thanks to everyone who responed to this thread.
73 Paul k5wms
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From cvest at cox.net  Tue Jan 13 00:18:59 2009
From: cvest at cox.net (Charles W5COV)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:18:59 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] test of poor mans noise eliminator
References: <20090113045348.1BD23373822A@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <4003C95C245544C5996F59B06100E89B@gateway>

Could someone please post the URL of the op amp version ?? Does it use readily available parts ? The clip was certainly impressive .

Thanks ,

Charlie , W5COV
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From jgibbs at infoserve.net  Tue Jan 13 00:19:12 2009
From: jgibbs at infoserve.net (John Gibbs)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:19:12 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Light Dimmer -  Noise Canceler Effectiveness...
Message-ID: <496C2450.50308@infoserve.net>

Everyone  --  Thanks for enhancing this subject...  Following with 
interest as lots of noise at my QTH

73 John VE7BDQ



From sthed475 at telus.net  Tue Jan 13 00:19:44 2009
From: sthed475 at telus.net (Scott Tilley)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:19:44 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] test of poor mans noise eliminator
In-Reply-To: <4003C95C245544C5996F59B06100E89B@gateway>
References: <20090113045348.1BD23373822A@mailman.qth.net>
	<4003C95C245544C5996F59B06100E89B@gateway>
Message-ID: <496C2470.6020606@telus.net>

http://users.tpg.com.au/users/ldbutler/LFNoiseCancel.htm

Charles W5COV wrote:
> Could someone please post the URL of the op amp version ?? Does it use 
> readily available parts ? The clip was certainly impressive .
>  
> Thanks ,
>  
> Charlie , W5COV
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From sthed475 at telus.net  Tue Jan 13 00:35:52 2009
From: sthed475 at telus.net (Scott Tilley)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:35:52 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Light Dimmer -  Beyond Superposition...
In-Reply-To: <496C2450.50308@infoserve.net>
References: <496C2450.50308@infoserve.net>
Message-ID: <496C2838.2010802@telus.net>

To expand the topic one can also consider a line-synchronous noise 
blanker for LF use.  This is different the the asynchronous types in 
your HF rig...

These guys only work on noise coming from mains powered dimmers and such 
but can be very effective on multiple sources of dimmer noise such as 
can be found in an urban QTH.

Have a look here for a great description of a very useful design:
http://www.ka7oei.com/syn_blank.html

I haven't seen much other literature on this method.  Anyone else got 
anything?

73 Scott


John Gibbs wrote:
> Everyone  --  Thanks for enhancing this subject...  Following with 
> interest as lots of noise at my QTH
>
>   

From tractorb at ihug.co.nz  Tue Jan 13 01:15:37 2009
From: tractorb at ihug.co.nz (Dave Brown)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:15:37 +1300
Subject: [Lowfer] Light Dimmer -  Beyond Superposition...
References: <496C2450.50308@infoserve.net> <496C2838.2010802@telus.net>
Message-ID: <204301c97546$5a3d0a00$7900a8c0@athlon1200>

QST had a design for one published years ago that was reputed to work 
well.- I'll look out the reference. Only reason I recall this is I 
needed one at the time but never got it off the 'to do' list!

All requests for phasing type noise cancelling ccts etc noted - if I 
get time I'll sort it all out tonight (scan and clean up etc)  and 
send off to all requestors.
73
 Dave, ZL3FJ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Tilley" <sthed475 at telus.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer 
bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Light Dimmer - Beyond Superposition...


> To expand the topic one can also consider a line-synchronous noise
> blanker for LF use.  This is different the the asynchronous types in
> your HF rig...
>
> These guys only work on noise coming from mains powered dimmers and 
> such
> but can be very effective on multiple sources of dimmer noise such 
> as
> can be found in an urban QTH.
>
> Have a look here for a great description of a very useful design:
> http://www.ka7oei.com/syn_blank.html
>
> I haven't seen much other literature on this method.  Anyone else 
> got
> anything?
>
> 73 Scott
>
>
> John Gibbs wrote:
>> Everyone  --  Thanks for enhancing this subject...  Following with
>> interest as lots of noise at my QTH
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
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From listread at oswegoblade.com  Tue Jan 13 03:31:10 2009
From: listread at oswegoblade.com (JD)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 02:31:10 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it works
References: <EF316A2EF2AA416B8D7877797A46E686@Dad>
Message-ID: <005601c97559$4bcb65d0$0202a8c0@JohnHPNotebook>

>>>So if I leave my noise canceler on too long, my radio might explode?  :o)

Yes, but then there won't be any noise at all to worry about. :-)

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From we0h at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 13 08:35:08 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:35:08 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Woohoo -21.5F degrees this morning
Message-ID: <496C988C.9010006@yahoo.com>

-21.5F this lovely bone chillin morning. Looks like a nice day for some 
antenna work huh? hi hi...

Mike
WE0H
/16

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan 13 12:57:19 2009
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:57:19 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] QRSS sensitivity versus signaling speed
Message-ID: <496CD5FF.4050502@sbcglobal.net>

In regard to the January 12, 2009 question raised by Paul Daulton, the 
following URLs are relevant: : (1) 
http://www.wireless.org.uk/signoise.htm and (2) 
http://www.scgroup.com/ham/wolf.html.

The pertinent results in reference (1) are: QRSS60 advantage over QRSS10 
= 8dB; QRSS10 advantage over QRSS3 = 7.6dB; QRSS3 advantage over 12wpm 
CW = 12dB. The net advantage indicated for QRSS-60 over CW is thus 27.6 
dB. Of course that will be a strong function of the character of the 
noise floor; i.e., is it smooth and Gaussian or rough and impulsive due 
to lightning, etc.

Reference (2) indicates 0.4 words-per-minute (WPM) QRSS  has a 12 dB 
advantage over CW. But this is QRSS-3 since the standard for code is bit 
duration = 1.2/WPM and interestingly 12 dB is exactly what reference (2) 
found. WOLF-10 is found to often work to 45 dB below the noise power, 
which is 27 dB better than CW and therefore comparable to QRSS-60. But 
in fairness to WOLF-10, it conveys a larger message and does so with 
confidence, not biased by knowing in advance what one wants to see.

73,
Garry
K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL


From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 13 15:30:01 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:30:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Fw: RE: Noise Canceler Effectiveness... Exploding radio
Message-ID: <988672.15313.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com>


> --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Dave Benham <dodgeboy73 at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> So if I leave my noise canceler on too long, my radio
> might explode?  :o)
>   
> 
> No, on the contrary, It will implode since the noise
> canceller is
> " sucking " the noise out of your radio. If you
> leave it on too
> long, it might become an " RF Blackhole !! " hi
> hi !!
> 
> 73:::
> 
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
> Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3'
> 16"
> http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr
> 



      

From stevesykes at rochester.rr.com  Tue Jan 13 17:38:05 2009
From: stevesykes at rochester.rr.com (Steve Sykes)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:38:05 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG Wolf10 decoded
In-Reply-To: <804813.99510.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <804813.99510.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <496D17CD.9010508@rochester.rr.com>

I finally decoded TAG last night:

t: 384 f:-0.010 pm:6.050 jm:898 q: -4.3 -4.9 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 480 f:-0.010 pm:7.063 jm:898 q: -3.6 -4.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 576 f:-0.010 pm:9.239 jm:898 q: -2.3 -3.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 672 f:-0.010 pm:15.03 jm:898 q: -1.2 -2.8 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 768 f:-0.010 pm:21.59 jm:898 q: -0.2 -1.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 864 f:-0.010 pm:25.93 jm:898 q:  0.5 -0.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 960 f:-0.010 pm:35.64 jm:898 q:  1.5  0.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1056 f:-0.010 pm:41.15 jm:898 q:  2.2  1.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1152 f:-0.010 pm:49.33 jm:898 q:  2.9  2.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1248 f:-0.010 pm:54.09 jm:898 q:  3.2  2.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1344 f:-0.010 pm:55.84 jm:898 q:  3.4  2.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1440 f:-0.010 pm:57.20 jm:898 q:  3.6  2.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1536 f:-0.010 pm:60.89 jm:898 q:  3.9  3.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1632 f:-0.010 pm:64.45 jm:898 q:  4.1  3.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1728 f:-0.010 pm:69.18 jm:898 q:  4.4  3.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1824 f:-0.010 pm:76.90 jm:898 q:  4.3  3.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1920 f:-0.010 pm:79.51 jm:898 q:  4.6  4.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2016 f:-0.010 pm:83.25 jm:898 q:  4.8  4.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2112 f:-0.010 pm:85.50 jm:898 q:  5.1  4.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2208 f:-0.010 pm:87.28 jm:898 q:  5.0  4.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2304 f:-0.010 pm:88.89 jm:898 q:  5.2  4.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2400 f:-0.010 pm:95.46 jm:898 q:  5.4  5.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2496 f:-0.010 pm:101.6 jm:898 q:  5.7  5.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2592 f:-0.010 pm:106.6 jm:898 q:  6.0  5.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2688 f:-0.010 pm:107.1 jm:898 q:  5.9  5.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2784 f:-0.010 pm:108.6 jm:898 q:  6.0  5.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2880 f:-0.010 pm:112.9 jm:898 q:  6.1  5.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2976 f:-0.010 pm:114.9 jm:898 q:  6.3  5.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:3072 f:-0.010 pm:115.6 jm:898 q:  6.3  5.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:3168 f:-0.010 pm:118.9 jm:898 q:  6.4  5.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
2009-01-13 01:52:21 >WOLF10  -r 8099.666 -f 800 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000

Steve W2SES
FN12gx

From evp at pacbell.net  Tue Jan 13 17:42:40 2009
From: evp at pacbell.net (Ed Phillips)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:42:40 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Light Dimmer -  Beyond Superposition...
In-Reply-To: <496C2838.2010802@telus.net>
References: <496C2450.50308@infoserve.net> <496C2838.2010802@telus.net>
Message-ID: <496D18E0.9030902@pacbell.net>



Scott Tilley wrote:

>To expand the topic one can also consider a line-synchronous noise 
>blanker for LF use.  This is different the the asynchronous types in 
>your HF rig...
>
>These guys only work on noise coming from mains powered dimmers and such 
>but can be very effective on multiple sources of dimmer noise such as 
>can be found in an urban QTH.
>
>Have a look here for a great description of a very useful design:
>http://www.ka7oei.com/syn_blank.html
>
>I haven't seen much other literature on this method.  Anyone else got 
>anything?
>
>73 Scott
>
I built a synchronous blanker back in the late 1970's which is very 
effective for light dimmer and equivalent line synchronous pulsed noise. 
Uses 120 Hz triggers generated from power supply [resistor in CT of 
power supply transformer] to trigger four CMOS pulse generators with 
variable delay and width to handle up to four different interference 
signals. Output of the generator is a series of pulses applied to the 
gate of a VN10KM mosfet connected directly across the receiver antenna 
terminals to get around problems with "stretching" in the narrow 
bandwidth of the receiver. It will completely kill interference from a 
light dimmer in the next room. Doesn't help with garbage like "power 
leaks" which varies in phase or is nonsynchronous. There is an 
auxilliary sawtooth output for the horizontal sweep of the monitor scope 
whose vertical input is the receiver audio output. Helps in adjusting 
the delay and width of the blanking pulses to the minimum necessary to 
get rid of the interference and leaves the maximum amount of signal. 
It's surprising how a weak signal can be copied even though the receiver 
is blanked a good portion of the complete power line cycle.....

The general principle of the "two antenna" noise blankers goes back to 
the early days of VLF transatlantic communications, which were often 
interrupted by static from the tropics. The output of an auxilliary 
receiving antenna was combined with the main receiving antenna with 
suitable amplitude and phase and was pretty successful in supressing 
noise from any particular storm. In effect the scheme forms a null in 
the receive pattern in the direction of the interference. Same principle 
as the cancellers discussed here and can be quite effective in at least 
some interference situations. We use the same idea in radar systems to 
do "jammer cancelling" - one or more auxilliary antennas are placed 
around the edges of the main antenna and their outputs are combined with 
the main output via phase shifters and attenuators. With N antennas it's 
possible in principle to cancel [N-1] interference sources by forming 
nulls in their directions. When the sources are within the main beam the 
idea still works but of course there is a loss in the received signal as 
well. Same scheme widely used in communication systems and 
jammer-nulling antennas such as for GPS.

Ed


From w1tag at charter.net  Tue Jan 13 17:47:43 2009
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:47:43 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG Wolf10 decoded
In-Reply-To: <496D17CD.9010508@rochester.rr.com>
References: <804813.99510.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<496D17CD.9010508@rochester.rr.com>
Message-ID: <496D1A0F.1010001@charter.net>

Steve,

> I finally decoded TAG last night:
> 
> t: 384 f:-0.010 pm:6.050 jm:898 q: -4.3 -4.9 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
> t: 480 f:-0.010 pm:7.063 jm:898 q: -3.6 -4.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
> t: 576 f:-0.010 pm:9.239 jm:898 q: -2.3 -3.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

Looks very good! Thanks for the report.

John Andrews, W1TAG

From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Tue Jan 13 19:43:30 2009
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:43:30 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Woohoo -21.5F degrees this morning
References: <496C988C.9010006@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <021201c975e2$467b1560$de63f504@classified>

Just a few degress colder than here, -6.2?F, I'm practically sweating.

Kurt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike-WE0H" <we0h at yahoo.com>

: -21.5F this lovely bone chillin morning. Looks like a nice day for some
: antenna work huh? hi hi...


From we0h at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 13 20:09:10 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:09:10 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Woohoo -21.5F degrees this morning
In-Reply-To: <021201c975e2$467b1560$de63f504@classified>
References: <496C988C.9010006@yahoo.com>
	<021201c975e2$467b1560$de63f504@classified>
Message-ID: <496D3B36.6080706@yahoo.com>

Dang, cold out in the desert? It bottomed out at -26F later in the 
morning. A guy in Alaska said it was -28F last week and reported of -80F 
in the interior Alaska last week. That's silly cold air...hi hi

Mike
WE0H



Kurt wrote:
> Just a few degress colder than here, -6.2?F, I'm practically sweating.
>
> Kurt

From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Tue Jan 13 22:18:32 2009
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:18:32 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Woohoo -21.5F degrees this morning
References: <496C988C.9010006@yahoo.com><021201c975e2$467b1560$de63f504@classified>
	<496D3B36.6080706@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <008c01c975f6$fbc58400$de63f504@classified>

Dang, cold out in the desert?

Especially in the desert!  When it snows, it warms up by a good twenty
degrees.  Then it's tee-shirt weather and time to get work done in the yard.
We're at about 5,000'.  When it's a clear night, get ready, it's gonna be
cold!

Somewhere around here I have a photo of my Dad and I in the yard.  It was
January, he was in a parka, I was in a tank top eating ice-cream.

Kurt


From christrask at earthlink.net  Tue Jan 13 22:29:45 2009
From: christrask at earthlink.net (Chris Trask)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:29:45 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] Woohoo -21.5F degrees this morning
References: <496C988C.9010006@yahoo.com><021201c975e2$467b1560$de63f504@classified><496D3B36.6080706@yahoo.com>
	<008c01c975f6$fbc58400$de63f504@classified>
Message-ID: <00a101c975f8$60043f00$c018f004@christrask>

>
> Dang, cold out in the desert?
>
> Especially in the desert!  When it snows, it warms up by a good twenty
> degrees.  Then it's tee-shirt weather and time to get work done in the
yard.
> We're at about 5,000'.  When it's a clear night, get ready, it's gonna be
> cold!
>
> Somewhere around here I have a photo of my Dad and I in the yard.  It was
> January, he was in a parka, I was in a tank top eating ice-cream.
>

    Yeah, it's going to be in the mid-70's here in Phoenix all week,
including this weekend.  That will make the tailgaters at the
Cardinals/Eagles Natural Fruitbowl League championship game happy.  I
already have a can of Iron City in the 'fridge for the Steelers/Ravens game.
Guess who I'm cheering for.

Chris

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From riese-k3djc at juno.com  Wed Jan 14 02:43:32 2009
From: riese-k3djc at juno.com (riese-k3djc at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:43:32 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Kaito
Message-ID: <20090114.024332.2748.1.riese-k3djc@juno.com>



wild
setting here with that little Kaito 1103 and coping some NDBs on it that
I hear
with the SDRIQ and an E field probe

great little radio fer the money

Bob K3DJC
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From we0h at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 14 02:46:47 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:46:47 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Kaito
In-Reply-To: <20090114.024332.2748.1.riese-k3djc@juno.com>
References: <20090114.024332.2748.1.riese-k3djc@juno.com>
Message-ID: <496D9867.8010902@yahoo.com>

Is that the radio those UK guys were chatting about a few weeks back on 
the RSGB reflector?

Mike
WE0H



Bob wrote:
> wild
> setting here with that little Kaito 1103 and coping some NDBs on it that
> I hear
> with the SDRIQ and an E field probe
>
> great little radio fer the money
>
> Bob K3DJC

From ashlockw at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 14 06:54:28 2009
From: ashlockw at hotmail.com (Bill Ashlock)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:54:28 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works
In-Reply-To: <EF316A2EF2AA416B8D7877797A46E686@Dad>
References: <753034.16310.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<EF316A2EF2AA416B8D7877797A46E686@Dad>
Message-ID: <BLU149-W6676BF888459AC6F17C859C9D60@phx.gbl>


Gentlemen:
 
After reading the description of the VK5BR noise cancelling circuit it appears to me this is nothing more than the old trick of combining the figure "8" pattern from a loop antenna and the circular pattern from a long wire antenna to form a cardioid pattern. If the amplitude and phase of these signals are properly adjusted the cardioid can have a noise-reducing null of at least 30db. A separate receiver connected to each antenna could be also used along with the proper amplitude and phasing adjustment to do the same thing. BTW the popular K9AY antenna uses exactly the same principle by introducing a controlled E field distortion to the normal figure "8" pattern that this antenna would normally have.
 
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From jh.bodin at telia.com  Wed Jan 14 07:14:27 2009
From: jh.bodin at telia.com (Johan H. Bodin)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:14:27 +0100
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works
In-Reply-To: <BLU149-W6676BF888459AC6F17C859C9D60@phx.gbl>
References: <753034.16310.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com>	<EF316A2EF2AA416B8D7877797A46E686@Dad>
	<BLU149-W6676BF888459AC6F17C859C9D60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <496DD723.1070401@telia.com>

Very true.

The radiation pattern of a small loop is simply cos(x) where x is the angle with
respect to the plane of the loop. The phase is reversed when passing through the
null. Just add a properly phased signal from a circular pattern antenna with the
same sensitivity as the loop max (pattern = 1 in all directions) and the
resulting pattern becomes 1+cos(x) which is a nice cardioid! :-)

73
Johan SM6LKM

----

Bill Ashlock wrote:

> Gentlemen:
[...]
> the old trick of combining the figure "8" pattern from a loop
> antenna and the circular pattern from a long wire antenna to
> form a cardioid pattern.
[...]

From tractorb at ihug.co.nz  Wed Jan 14 07:26:11 2009
From: tractorb at ihug.co.nz (Dave Brown)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:26:11 +1300
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works
References: <753034.16310.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com><EF316A2EF2AA416B8D7877797A46E686@Dad>
	<BLU149-W6676BF888459AC6F17C859C9D60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <24a901c97643$49739dd0$7900a8c0@athlon1200>

Correct. The principle has been round since the dawn of (radio DF) 
time.
No magic involved and nothing new under the sun, etc.
But its not the principle, so much as the methods of implementation, 
that are of interest.
73
Dave, ZL3FJ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Ashlock" <ashlockw at hotmail.com>
To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 12:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY 
works



Gentlemen:

After reading the description of the VK5BR noise cancelling circuit it 
appears to me this is nothing more than the old trick of combining the 
figure "8" pattern from a loop antenna and the circular pattern from a 
long wire antenna to form a cardioid pattern. If the amplitude and 
phase of these signals are properly adjusted the cardioid can have a 
noise-reducing null of at least 30db. A separate receiver connected to 
each antenna could be also used along with the proper amplitude and 
phasing adjustment to do the same thing. BTW the popular K9AY antenna 
uses exactly the same principle by introducing a controlled E field 
distortion to the normal figure "8" pattern that this antenna would 
normally have.

Bill Ashlock


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From ashlockw at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 14 07:28:34 2009
From: ashlockw at hotmail.com (Bill Ashlock)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:28:34 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works
In-Reply-To: <496DD723.1070401@telia.com>
References: <753034.16310.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
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>>and the resulting pattern becomes 1+cos(x) which is a nice cardioid!
 
Excellent! Once again the totally mathematical proof rules the day.
 
Bill> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:14:27 +0100> From: jh.bodin at telia.com> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works> > Very true.> > The radiation pattern of a small loop is simply cos(x) where x is the angle with> respect to the plane of the loop. The phase is reversed when passing through the> null. Just add a properly phased signal from a circular pattern antenna with the> same sensitivity as the loop max (pattern = 1 in all directions) and the> resulting pattern becomes 1+cos(x) which is a nice cardioid! :-)> > 73> Johan SM6LKM> > ----> > Bill Ashlock wrote:> > > Gentlemen:> [...]> > the old trick of combining the figure "8" pattern from a loop> > antenna and the circular pattern from a long wire antenna to> > form a cardioid pattern.> [...]> _______________________________________________> >From the Lowfer mailing list> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
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From ashlockw at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 14 07:33:16 2009
From: ashlockw at hotmail.com (Bill Ashlock)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:33:16 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works
In-Reply-To: <24a901c97643$49739dd0$7900a8c0@athlon1200>
References: <753034.16310.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com><EF316A2EF2AA416B8D7877797A46E686@Dad>
	<BLU149-W6676BF888459AC6F17C859C9D60@phx.gbl> 
	<24a901c97643$49739dd0$7900a8c0@athlon1200>
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>>But its not the principle, so much as the methods of implementation, that are of interest.
 
With all due respect I think both are of equal importance.
 
Bill> From: tractorb at ihug.co.nz> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:26:11 +1300> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works> > Correct. The principle has been round since the dawn of (radio DF) > time.> No magic involved and nothing new under the sun, etc.> But its not the principle, so much as the methods of implementation, > that are of interest.> 73> Dave, ZL3FJ> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Ashlock" <ashlockw at hotmail.com>> To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 12:54 AM> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY > works> > > > Gentlemen:> > After reading the description of the VK5BR noise cancelling circuit it > appears to me this is nothing more than the old trick of combining the > figure "8" pattern from a loop antenna and the circular pattern from a > long wire antenna to form a cardioid pattern. If the amplitude and > phase of these signals are properly adjusted the cardioid can have a > noise-reducing null of at least 30db. A separate receiver connected to > each antenna could be also used along with the proper amplitude and > phasing adjustment to do the same thing. BTW the popular K9AY antenna > uses exactly the same principle by introducing a controlled E field > distortion to the normal figure "8" pattern that this antenna would > normally have.> > Bill Ashlock> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > _______________________________________________> >>From the Lowfer mailing list> > Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net> > To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.7/1893 - Release Date: > 14/01/2009 06:59> > _______________________________________________> >>From the Lowfer mailing list> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
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From jh.bodin at telia.com  Wed Jan 14 08:41:29 2009
From: jh.bodin at telia.com (Johan H. Bodin)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:41:29 +0100
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works
In-Reply-To: <496DD723.1070401@telia.com>
References: <753034.16310.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com>	<EF316A2EF2AA416B8D7877797A46E686@Dad>	<BLU149-W6676BF888459AC6F17C859C9D60@phx.gbl>
	<496DD723.1070401@telia.com>
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I wrote:

> the resulting pattern becomes 1+cos(x) which is a nice cardioid! :-)

and forgot to add:

 when plotted in polar form.

Johan


From alan.melia at btinternet.com  Wed Jan 14 09:39:24 2009
From: alan.melia at btinternet.com (Alan Melia)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:39:24 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works ??
Message-ID: <00a401c97657$4f7575a0$0900a8c0@AM>

Hi Ok on the loops but this form of noise canceller works with two end fed
wire antennas too...... which dont have "fig of 8" patterns !!

On the K9AY I have reservations about that explanation too because the K9AY
is not  a loop....it is more like a travelling wave antenna. It may be the
model works, but I prefer to compare it with a coupled line. Think of a
directional coupler only here the coax/waveguide is the earth ionosphere.
Then the coupled line is a line terminated in a resistor  where a signal
from one direction is absorbed in the matching resistor. The matching
resistor need changing depending on the direction in the K9AY ....varying
the orientation of a pick-up loop in coax changes it impedance, and so
requires a different termination.  Any comment ?? There are elements of this
in a Beverage too.

Alan G3NYK




From pbarick at niu.edu  Wed Jan 14 10:33:37 2009
From: pbarick at niu.edu (Peter Barick)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:33:37 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer]  CV and WMS Copied EN51
Message-ID: <496DB171020000C80005E8E3@wpo.cso.niu.edu>

Gents,

A Hats-off to Garry on recent and rare captures of VO1NA and  SJ. Nice job.
And his regular reporting of specific times is an aid for others to follow.

Last night here Nothing seen of MP, listening starting at 10P. But did pickup CV and WMS after midnight, Both were sketchy at times.

Was hoping for UWL but nothing of note except a likely trace.

--Peter, N IL

From sthed475 at telus.net  Wed Jan 14 10:52:20 2009
From: sthed475 at telus.net (sthed475 at telus.net)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:52:20 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works
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From riese-k3djc at juno.com  Wed Jan 14 12:23:39 2009
From: riese-k3djc at juno.com (riese-k3djc at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:23:39 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Kaito
Message-ID: <20090114.122943.3328.3.riese-k3djc@juno.com>

ats it

it isnt going to be stable enough for any long integration thing
but is really sensitive and does copy ssb and cw ok.. I tries the 
fix to allow it to tune below 100 K but decided that I wanted the
loop for MF to work.. ordered one from amazon which was damaged
and got another one from a place near Washington DC,,,
regardless where you buy it the price comes out to 90 bux
unless you go to E bay and I didnt trust them

Bob K3DJC
 
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:46:47 -0600 Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com> writes:
> Is that the radio those UK guys were chatting about a few weeks back 
> on 
> the RSGB reflector?
> 
> Mike
> WE0H
> 
> 
> 
> Bob wrote:
> > wild
> > setting here with that little Kaito 1103 and coping some NDBs on 
> it that
> > I hear
> > with the SDRIQ and an E field probe
> >
> > great little radio fer the money
> >
> > Bob K3DJC
> _______________________________________________
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From ashlockw at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 14 17:06:33 2009
From: ashlockw at hotmail.com (Bill Ashlock)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:06:33 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works ??
In-Reply-To: <00a401c97657$4f7575a0$0900a8c0@AM>
References: <00a401c97657$4f7575a0$0900a8c0@AM>
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Hi Alan,
 
I think this antenna is far too small (WL wise) to have the properties you describe. The basic antenna looks like a small loop and a E-field sensing antenna to me and I believe the resistor is introducing what is sometimes referred to as an "Antenna Effect" or an undesired susceptibility of a loop to the E field, which tends to modify the figure "8" pattern - but in this case it is adjustable and becomes a desired effect. Any comments from others?
 
Bill > From: alan.melia at btinternet.com> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:39:24 +0000> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works ??> > Hi Ok on the loops but this form of noise canceller works with two end fed> wire antennas too...... which dont have "fig of 8" patterns !!> > On the K9AY I have reservations about that explanation too because the K9AY> is not a loop....it is more like a travelling wave antenna. It may be the> model works, but I prefer to compare it with a coupled line. Think of a> directional coupler only here the coax/waveguide is the earth ionosphere.> Then the coupled line is a line terminated in a resistor where a signal> from one direction is absorbed in the matching resistor. The matching> resistor need changing depending on the direction in the K9AY ....varying> the orientation of a pick-up loop in coax changes it impedance, and so> requires a different termination. Any comment ?? There are elements of this> in a Beverage too.> > Alan G3NYK> > > > _______________________________________________> >From the Lowfer mailing list> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
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From ashlockw at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 14 17:34:20 2009
From: ashlockw at hotmail.com (Bill Ashlock)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:34:20 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works
In-Reply-To: <32280150.8600721231948340137.JavaMail.nitido@priv-edmwes94>
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Scott,
 
Sorry.  I got into to this rather late and read most of the postings on this subject in random order.  I didn't see your original post until I had posted my first. You must feel like you opened up a can of worms? 
 
Speaking strictly for myself I'm glad your question appeared because I wasn't sure if my understanding of how this works was correct until some reinforcement came through. The working principle for the K9AY is still up for debate but that identifies another one of the beauties of this type of interactive education.
 
Bill 



Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:52:20 -0700From: sthed475 at telus.netTo: lowfer at mailman.qth.netSubject: Re: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works
 Hi Bill
 
Nothing new was claimed.  It was simply a reminder that this type of stuff really works to help someone who asked along time ago in the thread...
 
73 Scott
 
 
On Jan 14, 2009, ashlockw at hotmail.com wrote: 

Gentlemen: After reading the description of the VK5BR noise cancelling circuit it appears to me this is nothing more than the old trick of combining the figure "8" pattern from a loop antenna and the circular pattern from a long wire antenna to form a cardioid pattern. If the amplitude and phase of these signals are properly adjusted the cardioid can have a noise-reducing null of at least 30db. A separate receiver connected to each antenna could be also used along with the proper amplitude and phasing adjustment to do the same thing. BTW the popular K9AY antenna uses exactly the same principle by introducing a controlled E field distortion to the normal figure "8" pattern that this antenna would normally have. Bill Ashlock    

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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Wed Jan 14 18:42:49 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:42:49 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works ??
References: <00a401c97657$4f7575a0$0900a8c0@AM>
	<BLU149-W724EB7069B1EEF15917CB5C9D60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <006c01c976a1$cf18efe0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

Some info on terminated receive loops is available at http://www.w3eee.com/ ... scroll down to receive antennas.

I use a large K9AY for 137 and 500 kHz. A drawing of the antenna is available at http://www.w1vd.com/k9ay11.pdf. The Vactrol terminating resistor is adjustable from the shack. I find that the resistance required for optimum front to back is the same regardless of the direction selected. The antenna maintains excellent directivity as one goes lower in frequency  -  at 60 kHz the F/B is 20+ dB - same as it is at 137 and 500 kHz. Directivity falls off at frequencies greater than 1 MHz.    

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bill Ashlock 
  To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works ??


  Hi Alan,
   
  I think this antenna is far too small (WL wise) to have the properties you describe. The basic antenna looks like a small loop and a E-field sensing antenna to me and I believe the resistor is introducing what is sometimes referred to as an "Antenna Effect" or an undesired susceptibility of a loop to the E field, which tends to modify the figure "8" pattern - but in this case it is adjustable and becomes a desired effect. Any comments from others?
   
  Bill 

  > From: alan.melia at btinternet.com
  > To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
  > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:39:24 +0000
  > Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works ??
  > 
  > Hi Ok on the loops but this form of noise canceller works with two end fed
  > wire antennas too...... which dont have "fig of 8" patterns !!
  > 
  > On the K9AY I have reservations about that explanation too because the K9AY
  > is not a loop....it is more like a travelling wave antenna. It may be the
  > model works, but I prefer to compare it with a coupled line. Think of a
  > directional coupler only here the coax/waveguide is the earth ionosphere.
  > Then the coupled line is a line terminated in a resistor where a signal
  > from one direction is absorbed in the matching resistor. The matching
  > resistor need changing depending on the direction in the K9AY ....varying
  > the orientation of a pick-up loop in coax changes it impedance, and so
  > requires a different termination. Any comment ?? There are elements of this
  > in a Beverage too.
  > 
  > Alan G3NYK
  > 
  > 
  > 
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From evp at pacbell.net  Wed Jan 14 19:11:25 2009
From: evp at pacbell.net (Ed Phillips)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:11:25 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works
In-Reply-To: <BLU149-W211A35FBF5E477D2336E10C9D60@phx.gbl>
References: <753034.16310.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com><EF316A2EF2AA416B8D7877797A46E686@Dad>	<BLU149-W6676BF888459AC6F17C859C9D60@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <496E7F2D.6080705@pacbell.net>

 >>But its not the principle, so much as the methods of implementation, 
that are of interest.
 
With all due respect I think both are of equal importance.
 
Bill"

    Principle is of interest but to me the most important thing is that 
there are situations in which this simple technique is effective and 
worth the effort!

Ed


From evp at pacbell.net  Wed Jan 14 19:14:08 2009
From: evp at pacbell.net (Ed Phillips)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:14:08 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works
In-Reply-To: <496DEB89.4090404@telia.com>
References: <753034.16310.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com>	<EF316A2EF2AA416B8D7877797A46E686@Dad>	<BLU149-W6676BF888459AC6F17C859C9D60@phx.gbl>	<496DD723.1070401@telia.com>
	<496DEB89.4090404@telia.com>
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I wrote:


>> the resulting pattern becomes 1+cos(x) which is a nice cardioid!  :-) 
>  
>

and forgot to add:

 when plotted in polar form.

Johan"

	Roger.



From evp at pacbell.net  Wed Jan 14 19:19:04 2009
From: evp at pacbell.net (Ed Phillips)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:19:04 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Kaito
In-Reply-To: <20090114.024332.2748.1.riese-k3djc@juno.com>
References: <20090114.024332.2748.1.riese-k3djc@juno.com>
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wild
setting here with that little Kaito 1103 and coping some NDBs on it that
I hear
with the SDRIQ and an E field probe

great little radio fer the money

Bob K3DJC"

	Does that take a mod to get it down there?  I have an 1102 and it's stuck with either the BC band or an "SW" lower limit i3 MHz.  Does the 1103 have a wider tuning range?

Ed



From ashlockw at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 14 19:39:30 2009
From: ashlockw at hotmail.com (Bill Ashlock)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:39:30 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works ??
In-Reply-To: <006c01c976a1$cf18efe0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <00a401c97657$4f7575a0$0900a8c0@AM>
	<BLU149-W724EB7069B1EEF15917CB5C9D60@phx.gbl> 
	<006c01c976a1$cf18efe0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <BLU149-W56E4AA53EA7F770A061C45C9D70@phx.gbl>


Jay,
 
I looked at the URL on terminated loops and their cardioid pattern. It's kind of hard to analyze the antenna by removing the resistor and not completely change the antenna but it seems to me that the terminated loop is simply an E-field antenna in series with an H-field antenna. The current resulting from the incoming E-field produces a voltage across the resistor that is added to the voltage produced by the figure "8" H-field and the net result is a cardioid response. But maybe we are simply arguing semantics? 
 
One might be able to prove my theory by installing a delta-shaped loop and a long wire antenna of equal dimensions to a reference terminated loop. If the outputs are properly combined in phase and amplitude the same reception characteristics should be attainable. Another possible hint that my theory is correct is that these antennas continue to work with minimal ajustment as the frequency is lowered. I think this is because the E-field and H-field reception patterns do not change. But when the loop gets close in size to a maybe a 1/8 of a WL, where the loop would begin showing multiple lobes, the cardioid pattern would not be possible.
 
Bill



From: jrusgrove at comcast.netTo: lowfer at mailman.qth.netDate: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:42:49 -0500Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works ??



Some info on terminated receive loops is available at http://www.w3eee.com/ ... scroll down to receive antennas.
 
I use a large K9AY for 137 and 500 kHz. A drawing of the antenna is available at http://www.w1vd.com/k9ay11.pdf. The Vactrol terminating resistor is adjustable from the shack. I find that the resistance required for optimum front to back is the same regardless of the direction selected. The antenna maintains excellent directivity as one goes lower in frequency  -  at 60 kHz the F/B is 20+ dB - same as it is at 137 and 500 kHz. Directivity falls off at frequencies greater than 1 MHz.    
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Bill Ashlock 
To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works ??
Hi Alan, I think this antenna is far too small (WL wise) to have the properties you describe. The basic antenna looks like a small loop and a E-field sensing antenna to me and I believe the resistor is introducing what is sometimes referred to as an "Antenna Effect" or an undesired susceptibility of a loop to the E field, which tends to modify the figure "8" pattern - but in this case it is adjustable and becomes a desired effect. Any comments from others? Bill > From: alan.melia at btinternet.com> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:39:24 +0000> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works ??> > Hi Ok on the loops but this form of noise canceller works with two end fed> wire antennas too...... which dont have "fig of 8" patterns !!> > On the K9AY I have reservations about that explanation too because the K9AY> is not a loop....it is more like a travelling wave antenna. It may be the> model works, but I prefer to compare it with a coupled line. Think of a> directional coupler only here the coax/waveguide is the earth ionosphere.> Then the coupled line is a line terminated in a resistor where a signal> from one direction is absorbed in the matching resistor. The matching> resistor need changing depending on the direction in the K9AY ....varying> the orientation of a pick-up loop in coax changes it impedance, and so> requires a different termination. Any comment ?? There are elements of this> in a Beverage too.> > Alan G3NYK> > > > _______________________________________________> >From the Lowfer mailing list> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer



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From riese-k3djc at juno.com  Wed Jan 14 20:46:51 2009
From: riese-k3djc at juno.com (riese-k3djc at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:46:51 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Kaito
Message-ID: <20090114.211010.1884.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com>

the 1103 tunes to 100 K and can be 'tricked" to go lower but
looses any selectivity and you loose the use of the loop stick antenna
can copy/7 right now although he is 80 Db over background
nice little monitor and small to take along

Bob K3DJC



 
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:19:04 -0800 Ed Phillips <evp at pacbell.net> writes:
> wild
> setting here with that little Kaito 1103 and coping some NDBs on it 
> that
> I hear
> with the SDRIQ and an E field probe
> 
> great little radio fer the money
> 
> Bob K3DJC"
> 
>         Does that take a mod to get it down there?  I have an 1102 
> and it's stuck with either the BC band or an "SW" lower limit i3 
> MHz.  Does the 1103 have a wider tuning range?
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
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From evp at pacbell.net  Wed Jan 14 21:14:36 2009
From: evp at pacbell.net (Ed Phillips)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:14:36 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works ??
In-Reply-To: <BLU149-W56E4AA53EA7F770A061C45C9D70@phx.gbl>
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The only real requirements for cancellation are that there be a phase 
difference between the interference received by the main and auxilliary 
antennas and that the interference received by the auxilliary be larger 
in amplitude than that received by the main.  Doesn't matter how the 
signal got that way or what the patterns of the individual antennas may 
be. 

Ed


From k5wms at aristotle.net  Wed Jan 14 20:26:05 2009
From: k5wms at aristotle.net (PAUL DAULTON)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:26:05 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Kaito
Message-ID: <20090115022610.2D7B537381DA@mailman.qth.net>

Bob have you tried the Kaito on qrss with argo. With 1khz resolution you
 should be able to use argo
to find the signal.
Does it have input for outside antenna or active ant?
I looked it up on the internet looks like a good buy.
73 and thanks
Paul k5wms
-----Original Message-----
From: riese-k3djc at juno.com
Sent: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:46:51 -0500
To: evp at pacbell.net,lowfer at mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Kaito
 
 
the 1103 tunes to 100 K and can be 'tricked" to go lower but  
looses any selectivity and you loose the use of the loop stick antenna  
can copy/7 right now although he is 80 Db over background  
nice little monitor and small to take along  
 
Bob K3DJC  
 
 
 
 
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:19:04 -0800 Ed Phillips <evp at pacbell.net> writes:  
> wild  
> setting here with that little Kaito 1103 and coping some NDBs on it  
> that  
> I hear  
> with the SDRIQ and an E field probe  
>  
> great little radio fer the money  
>  
> Bob K3DJC"  
>  
> Does that take a mod to get it down there? I have an 1102  
> and it's stuck with either the BC band or an "SW" lower limit i3  
> MHz. Does the 1103 have a wider tuning range?  
>  
> Ed  
>  
>  
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From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 21:59:49 2009
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:59:49 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Wolf tonite
Message-ID: <2f80819e0901141859r3468cfb6lf7cb78a71ee0e579@mail.gmail.com>

I figured it was cold enough tonite(20F) to try for Wolf..185.8Khz so
did get a bit
de Lloyd W3NF

2009-01-15 02:31:30 >WOLF10  -r 7999.440 -f 800 -t 1.0 -d 31 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.793 a: 0.1 dp: 53.8 ci: 0 cj:148 B5/B1F8TVSMQSQM ?
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t:  96 f: 0.303 a:-1.0 dp: 49.8 ci:14 cj: 59 GQU2ZHDB C0/23J ?
t: 192 f:-0.469 pm:1.175 jm:522 q:-13.5 -7.9 0*2/GH0ND5LNLDH ?
t: 288 f:-0.029 pm:1.426 jm:402 q:-10.2 -8.5 8EV45IVJTMQACAV ?
t: 384 f:-0.469 pm:1.868 jm:522 q:-11.0 -7.2 VH 4WDP3/X91LAH ?
t: 480 f:-0.469 pm:1.890 jm:522 q:-10.3 -5.9 8 1*26UD1Q/9CIW -
t: 576 f:-0.469 pm:2.183 jm:522 q: -9.7 -9.1 0ERBL*KEKMXL??? ?
t: 672 f:-0.469 pm:2.189 jm:522 q: -9.5 -6.0  J/83Q1F*EO6B.C -
t: 768 f:-0.469 pm:2.272 jm:522 q: -8.8 -8.2 92N.FG 7J.S STD ?
t: 864 f:-0.029 pm:2.365 jm:402 q: -6.6 -9.0 VROGD*CS1NI70K1 ?
t: 960 f:-0.029 pm:2.947 jm:402 q: -5.6 -7.2  3PDXULCYUNO0DT ?
t:1056 f:-0.029 pm:4.561 jm:402 q: -4.2 -7.3  3PDXULAWTL/0Z5 ?
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From sthed475 at telus.net  Wed Jan 14 22:16:30 2009
From: sthed475 at telus.net (Scott Tilley)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:16:30 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works
In-Reply-To: <BLU149-W66135220EEEF15923130EBC9D60@phx.gbl>
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Hi Bill

I agree!  Imagine the poor chap that some days ago asked what seemed 
like a simple question :-)

My solution to my noise issues is a kludge of many ideas so I can make 
what I have at hand work.   I built the canceler I use simply because it 
presented a solution that could use whatever antennas I connected to 
it.  I have dreamed about a K9AY antenna but at my new QTH I am ground 
challenged and from what I understand the K9AY requires a good ground 
under the 'loops' if that's what they are :-) I have solid bedrock over 
most of my yard...  So this was considered the best compromise and yes a 
solid reason I'm considering an Ashlock loop for LF transmitting antenna 
in the near future, well actually two :-)

As Ed pointed out the canceler works on anything you connect it to as 
long as the signal amplitudes are within the range of the adjustments to 
find the null after the phase setting has been found.  And as you and 
Johan have pointed out connection to a loop allows one to steer a 
Cardiod shaped null.  Very handy to null one's only neighbour who has 
dimmers everywhere...

I have found that the positional stability of the null is very good over 
time and allows me to run my grabber full time even as the neighbour 
dims merrily away. 

I have found my 2200m RX nirvana.  Bring on ZL!

73 Scott





Bill Ashlock wrote:
> Scott,
>  
> Sorry.  I got into to this rather late and read most of the postings 
> on this subject in random order.  I didn't see your original post 
> until I had posted my first. You must feel like you opened up a can of 
> worms?
>  
> Speaking strictly for myself I'm glad your question appeared because I 
> wasn't sure if my understanding of how this works was correct until 
> some reinforcement came through. The working principle for the K9AY is 
> still up for debate but that identifies another one of the beauties of 
> this type of interactive education.
>  
> Bill 
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:52:20 -0700
> From: sthed475 at telus.net
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works
>
>
>  Hi Bill
>  
> Nothing new was claimed.  It was simply a reminder that this type of 
> stuff really works to help someone who asked along time ago in the 
> thread...
>  
> 73 Scott
>  
>  
> On Jan 14, 2009, *ashlockw at hotmail.com* wrote:
>
>
>     Gentlemen:
>      
>     After reading the description of the VK5BR noise cancelling
>     circuit it appears to me this is nothing more than the old trick
>     of combining the figure "8" pattern from a loop antenna
>     and the circular pattern from a long wire antenna to form a
>     cardioid pattern. If the amplitude and phase of these signals are
>     properly adjusted the cardioid can have a noise-reducing null of
>     at least 30db. A separate receiver connected to each antenna could
>     be also used along with the proper amplitude and phasing
>     adjustment to do the same thing. BTW the popular K9AY antenna uses
>     exactly the same principle by introducing a controlled E field
>     distortion to the normal figure "8" pattern that this antenna
>     would normally have.
>      
>     Bill Ashlock    
>
>
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>
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 14 22:40:17 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:40:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Another try for " XR " tonite ??
Message-ID: <454702.45388.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hey everyone:

The ground is dry here now, and frozen. It's going to be around
10 to 15 degrees for the next 3 nights, That;s cold for TN.
I've been watching my output slowly come up as the ground cndx.
have changed. " XR ' is running all she's gonna do into the ether.
It's not supposed to rain agn for a few days. Anyone who has
tried to copy " XR " and couldn't; the next couple of nights 
might pay off for mine, or any other beacon you've had trouble
snagging. I'm hoping we'll start seeing more new names showing up
from new monitors. My opinion only;; when a newcomer asks simply,
" how does it work " the technical mumbo-jumbo needs to be kept
to a minimum, with simple easy to understand answers, or it may
scare the H-E Double toothpicks out of them, and they'll be like
that big trophy bass that jumped, shook its head, slung the hook,
and got away. Just a thought !!  73 everyone, and good LOWfer-ing.

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      

From we0h at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 14 22:45:07 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:45:07 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Another try for " XR " tonite ??
In-Reply-To: <454702.45388.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <454702.45388.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <496EB143.4030809@yahoo.com>

-15F here with a wonderful NW wind...

Mike
WE0H
/16



Andy - KU4XR wrote:
> Hey everyone:
>
> The ground is dry here now, and frozen. It's going to be around
> 10 to 15 degrees for the next 3 nights, That;s cold for TN.
> I've been watching my output slowly come up as the ground cndx.
> have changed. " XR ' is running all she's gonna do into the ether.
> It's not supposed to rain agn for a few days. Anyone who has
> tried to copy " XR " and couldn't; the next couple of nights 
> might pay off for mine, or any other beacon you've had trouble
> snagging. I'm hoping we'll start seeing more new names showing up
> from new monitors. My opinion only;; when a newcomer asks simply,
> " how does it work " the technical mumbo-jumbo needs to be kept
> to a minimum, with simple easy to understand answers, or it may
> scare the H-E Double toothpicks out of them, and they'll be like
> that big trophy bass that jumped, shook its head, slung the hook,
> and got away. Just a thought !!  73 everyone, and good LOWfer-ing.
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
> Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
> http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr

From riese-k3djc at juno.com  Wed Jan 14 22:52:02 2009
From: riese-k3djc at juno.com (riese-k3djc at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:52:02 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Kaito
Message-ID: <20090114.225213.1884.6.riese-k3djc@juno.com>

It could be OK for cw speed but it isnt calibrated well enough 
for anything over that,, there are accessories for external antennas
but it auto switches to the loop below ( ? ) 2 Mhz,, there is an
external wire antenna that has a jack and can be added but dont expect
great results it wont hold up against a radio to be used with an external
antenna
the thing really sounds great on FM using headphones
overall a nice carry on radio
and Mel wanted one so it must be good

HAR

Bob 

are we human or are we dancer
my spirits vital
my hands are cold



On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:26:05 -0500 PAUL DAULTON <k5wms at aristotle.net>
writes:
Bob have you tried the Kaito on qrss with argo. With 1khz resolution you
should be able to use argo 
to find the signal. 
  
Does it have input for outside antenna or active ant? 
  
I looked it up on the internet looks like a good buy. 
  
73 and thanks 
Paul k5wms 



-----Original Message-----
From: riese-k3djc at juno.com
Sent: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:46:51 -0500
To: evp at pacbell.net,lowfer at mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Kaito
 
 
the 1103 tunes to 100 K and can be 'tricked" to go lower but  
looses any selectivity and you loose the use of the loop stick antenna  
can copy/7 right now although he is 80 Db over background  
nice little monitor and small to take along  
 
Bob K3DJC  
 
 
 
 
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:19:04 -0800 Ed Phillips <evp at pacbell.net> writes: 

> wild  
> setting here with that little Kaito 1103 and coping some NDBs on it  
> that  
> I hear  
> with the SDRIQ and an E field probe  
>  
> great little radio fer the money  
>  
> Bob K3DJC"  
>  
> Does that take a mod to get it down there? I have an 1102  
> and it's stuck with either the BC band or an "SW" lower limit i3  
> MHz. Does the 1103 have a wider tuning range?  
>  
> Ed  
>  
>  
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From k5wms at aristotle.net  Wed Jan 14 22:44:19 2009
From: k5wms at aristotle.net (PAUL DAULTON)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:44:19 -0500 
Subject: [Lowfer] Dave Curry's tranceiver for 1750 meters
Message-ID: <20090115044422.638E337381ED@mailman.qth.net>

Far circuits lists the boards for Dave's 1750 meter tranceiver from Sept
 94 73 magazine.
Fred usually has the articles to go with his boards.
dont remember this article and I have given away my old magazines. One
 chip listed the mc34113
is not familiar to me. Fred usually has sources for the chips.
thanks to Charles Vest (CV) for bringing this to my attention.
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 14 23:45:39 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:45:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] 600 meters tonite
Message-ID: <668888.83351.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Great signals from the 2 Mainstays of the 600 meter frontier
on the east coast. Pat - XSH/6 is rolling in to EM75xr at S-7 consistently, that's actually a little low for him, probably 
in a slight fade when copied.  ---  Jay - XGR/6 is booming in 
at S-9+ with some QSB.
My noise floor with narrow filters is an S-1. That's the lowest
I can recall it being.

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      

From wd2xgj at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 00:28:55 2009
From: wd2xgj at gmail.com (Warren Ziegler)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:28:55 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 600 meters tonite
In-Reply-To: <668888.83351.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <668888.83351.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <57a24ca70901142128i590f2309v46041b35661ff18@mail.gmail.com>

Andy,

   WE2XGR/6 is Bob (W2ZM) in Penn Yan,NY.

73 Warren

From k1eg at matrix-computers.com  Thu Jan 15 02:01:22 2009
From: k1eg at matrix-computers.com (Michael Lodico)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:01:22 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Dave Curry's tranceiver for 1750 meters
In-Reply-To: <20090115044422.638E337381ED@mailman.qth.net>
References: <20090115044422.638E337381ED@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <496EDF42.8050106@matrix-computers.com>

Hi Paul, 

These boards are for the CW version only and do not have SSB 
capability.  Most of us want SSB so that we can do the digital modes.

73,
Mike K1EG

PAUL DAULTON wrote:
>
> Far circuits lists the boards for Dave's 1750 meter tranceiver from 
> Sept 94 73 magazine.
>
> Fred usually has the articles to go with his boards.
>
>  
>
> dont remember this article and I have given away my old magazines. One 
> chip listed the mc34113
>
> is not familiar to me. Fred usually has sources for the chips.
>
>  
>
> thanks to Charles Vest (CV) for bringing this to my attention.
>
>  
>
> Paul k5wms
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From jh.bodin at telia.com  Thu Jan 15 04:44:30 2009
From: jh.bodin at telia.com (Johan H. Bodin)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:44:30 +0100
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works
In-Reply-To: <496EAA8E.4010402@telus.net>
References: <32280150.8600721231948340137.JavaMail.nitido@priv-edmwes94>	<BLU149-W66135220EEEF15923130EBC9D60@phx.gbl>
	<496EAA8E.4010402@telus.net>
Message-ID: <496F057E.4030709@telia.com>

Hi Scott, Lowfers,

some K9AY users have reported good results over poor soil or even rock. The
antenna works with a few ground radials laid out on the GND below the antenna
(without ground rods). It just needs some form of "counterpoise" for the E-field
part to work. Poor soil may affect the vertical pattern but that's another story...

I belive Bill's is correct - on LF, the K9AY is just a simple E-field probe
(termination open) and a H-field probe (termination shorted). The termination is
adjusted to get the proper balance between the E and H contributions to the
output signal. As long as the antenna is small w.r.t. wavelength, the phasing
will be correct thanks to the laws of physics :-)

The E-field sensitivity will suffer if the ground resistance is high (it's all
in series!) so you'll have to increase the termination resistance to get proper
balance. This will in turn reduce the H-field sensitivity as well since the
larger termination is in series with the loop too...

A picture of my hombrew K9AY is here: http://www.aytechnologies.com/
Click "Comments and User Stories" on the left side.

73
Johan SM6LKM

----

Scott Tilley wrote:
> I have dreamed about a K9AY antenna but at my new QTH I am
> ground challenged and from what I understand the K9AY requires
> a good ground under the 'loops' if that's what they are :-)


From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Thu Jan 15 06:05:42 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:05:42 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works
References: <32280150.8600721231948340137.JavaMail.nitido@priv-edmwes94>	<BLU149-W66135220EEEF15923130EBC9D60@phx.gbl><496EAA8E.4010402@telus.net>
	<496F057E.4030709@telia.com>
Message-ID: <003001c97701$355c3dc0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

Agree on the 'counterpoise' as suggested by Johan. Even though my antenna is located over relatibely 
good ground (an old pasture) I noticed that the termination would need readjusting with dry vs. wet 
ground conditions. An eight wire ground system where the 'spokes' extend a small distance beyond the 
antenna stabilized the pattern.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Johan H. Bodin" <jh.bodin at telia.com>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 4:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Noise Canceler Effectiveness... How it REALLY works


> Hi Scott, Lowfers,
>
> some K9AY users have reported good results over poor soil or even rock. The
> antenna works with a few ground radials laid out on the GND below the antenna
> (without ground rods). It just needs some form of "counterpoise" for the E-field
> part to work. Poor soil may affect the vertical pattern but that's another story...
>
> I belive Bill's is correct - on LF, the K9AY is just a simple E-field probe
> (termination open) and a H-field probe (termination shorted). The termination is
> adjusted to get the proper balance between the E and H contributions to the
> output signal. As long as the antenna is small w.r.t. wavelength, the phasing
> will be correct thanks to the laws of physics :-)
>
> The E-field sensitivity will suffer if the ground resistance is high (it's all
> in series!) so you'll have to increase the termination resistance to get proper
> balance. This will in turn reduce the H-field sensitivity as well since the
> larger termination is in series with the loop too...
>
> A picture of my hombrew K9AY is here: http://www.aytechnologies.com/
> Click "Comments and User Stories" on the left side.
>
> 73
> Johan SM6LKM
>
> ----
>
> Scott Tilley wrote:
>> I have dreamed about a K9AY antenna but at my new QTH I am
>> ground challenged and from what I understand the K9AY requires
>> a good ground under the 'loops' if that's what they are :-)
>
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From alan.melia at btinternet.com  Thu Jan 15 05:58:08 2009
From: alan.melia at btinternet.com (Alan Melia)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:58:08 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] K9AY
Message-ID: <004901c97702$f8ca0980$0900a8c0@AM>

Hi (I have changed the subject as it was getting away from the original
post)

Hi Bill I think your "model" is viable there is just one point that worries
me about it. If it was to act like a loop and sense it should have a
substantial signal sensitivity from the side. The reports I have seen and
the experiements done by Finbar on NDBs sujject that this is not the polar
(azimuth) pattern that they produce......but it is a very difficult thing to
measure and I have not seen a good measurement. Another thought would be is
the signal sensitivity proportional to area regardless of shape as it would
be with a loop. In this case the directionality might degrade it there was
not a significant vertical component. I certainly know that "two turn"
versions are an advantage at LF ( Hartmutt uses one to brilliant effect),
and Finbar showed the sensitivity increased by tuning (at LF) without losing
the directional effect.

I guess no one is "wrong" they are probably just different ways (analogies?)
for the same effect. This continues to be an interesting topic (to me anyway
:-))  ) There is definitely no doubt they work! Room for some more
experimental work ?? :-))

Alan G3NYK


From jh.bodin at telia.com  Thu Jan 15 06:41:39 2009
From: jh.bodin at telia.com (Johan H. Bodin)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:41:39 +0100
Subject: [Lowfer] K9AY
In-Reply-To: <006c01c976a1$cf18efe0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <00a401c97657$4f7575a0$0900a8c0@AM>	<BLU149-W724EB7069B1EEF15917CB5C9D60@phx.gbl>
	<006c01c976a1$cf18efe0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <496F20F3.2020009@telia.com>

Jay,

do you have a single loop K9AY or two crossed?

73
Johan

jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
> A drawing of the antenna is available at http://www.w1vd.com/k9ay11.pdf.

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Thu Jan 15 07:15:56 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:15:56 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] K9AY
References: <00a401c97657$4f7575a0$0900a8c0@AM>	<BLU149-W724EB7069B1EEF15917CB5C9D60@phx.gbl><006c01c976a1$cf18efe0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<496F20F3.2020009@telia.com>
Message-ID: <002801c9770b$04dd3000$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

Johan

Single 'oversized' loop NE - SW. I suppose when Laurence gets his transmitter set up in AK I'll have 
to install a NW - SE loop as well. Otherwise I don't need those directions for 137 or 500 kHz 
activity. Would be nice to play phasing tricks, though.

Jay


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Johan H. Bodin" <jh.bodin at telia.com>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 6:41 AM
Subject: [Lowfer] K9AY


> Jay,
>
> do you have a single loop K9AY or two crossed?
>
> 73
> Johan
>
> jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
>> A drawing of the antenna is available at http://www.w1vd.com/k9ay11.pdf.
> _______________________________________________
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From jh.bodin at telia.com  Thu Jan 15 07:44:02 2009
From: jh.bodin at telia.com (Johan H. Bodin)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:44:02 +0100
Subject: [Lowfer] K9AY
In-Reply-To: <002801c9770b$04dd3000$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <00a401c97657$4f7575a0$0900a8c0@AM>	<BLU149-W724EB7069B1EEF15917CB5C9D60@phx.gbl><006c01c976a1$cf18efe0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>	<496F20F3.2020009@telia.com>
	<002801c9770b$04dd3000$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <496F2F92.7080104@telia.com>

Jay,

if you install a NW - SE loop of similar size you could try the
"two-loops-eight-nulls" trick. Only two DPDT relays are needed in addition to
the usual K9AY relays. One relay to put both loops in series and another one to
reverse the polarity of one of the loops. The series connected loops act as a
two-turn loop with a virtual winding plane at 45 degrees w.r.t. the actual
loops. Reversing the polarity of one of the loops gives "the other" 45 degree
direction. Worked great here but the termination had to be readjusted when
switching between 1 and 2 turns.

Johan

----

jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
> Johan
> 
> Single 'oversized' loop NE - SW. I suppose when Laurence gets his transmitter set up in AK I'll have 
> to install a NW - SE loop as well. Otherwise I don't need those directions for 137 or 500 kHz 
> activity. Would be nice to play phasing tricks, though.
> 
> Jay

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Thu Jan 15 08:40:42 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:40:42 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] K9AY
References: <000801c9770f$18a79360$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <001e01c97716$de59e930$6c01a8c0@DELL4>

Johan

Yes, I recall when you first reported your success using two loops - always 
wanted to try it but haven't had two loops up to give it a try. What I 
should do is put a smaller pair of K9AYs that are good up through 80 meters 
so I can use them in the broadcast band and on 160/80 meters. Guess that 
will have to wait till spring.

Jay



> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Johan H. Bodin" <jh.bodin at telia.com>
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" 
> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 7:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] K9AY
>
>
>> Jay,
>>
>> if you install a NW - SE loop of similar size you could try the
>> "two-loops-eight-nulls" trick. Only two DPDT relays are needed in 
>> addition to
>> the usual K9AY relays. One relay to put both loops in series and another 
>> one to
>> reverse the polarity of one of the loops. The series connected loops act 
>> as a
>> two-turn loop with a virtual winding plane at 45 degrees w.r.t. the 
>> actual
>> loops. Reversing the polarity of one of the loops gives "the other" 45 
>> degree
>> direction. Worked great here but the termination had to be readjusted 
>> when
>> switching between 1 and 2 turns.
>>
>> Johan
>>
>> ----
>>
>> jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
>>> Johan
>>>
>>> Single 'oversized' loop NE - SW. I suppose when Laurence gets his 
>>> transmitter set up in AK I'll have
>>> to install a NW - SE loop as well. Otherwise I don't need those 
>>> directions for 137 or 500 kHz
>>> activity. Would be nice to play phasing tricks, though.
>>>
>>> Jay
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 15 12:13:36 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:13:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] An HF to LF Transmit Converter
Message-ID: <606731.41980.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hello all:

This tidbit may be of interest to some and not to others.
The following link is for an HF to LF Xmit converter:

http://users.tpg.com.au/users/ldbutler/HFtoLFConverter.htm

If all you're looking to do is transmit linear modes, it's
possible that this might work for you.

73; and GudDay:::

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 15 12:18:51 2009
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:18:51 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer]  Another try for " XR " tonite ??
Message-ID: <496F6FFB.6020809@sbcglobal.net>

Andy,

Despite temperature dropping to -16 deg F here last night I did copy 
signals from your beacon XR. Best QRSS-60, slow ARGO capture was at 
1050Z, 011509 on a frequency of 184321.9. That's down a bit from where I 
previously saw you. Perhaps due to the cold at your end, my end, or both 
ends.

73,
Garry, K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 15 13:08:02 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:08:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Another try for " XR " tonite ??
In-Reply-To: <496F6FFB.6020809@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <652255.27785.qm@web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

--- On Thu, 1/15/09, Garry and Linda Hess <k3siw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Andy,
 
> I did copy signals from your beacon XR. Best QRSS-60, slow ARGO
> on a frequency of 184321.9. That's down a bit from where I 
> previously saw you.  73,


> Garry, K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL


Thanks for looking Garry: I was moving my beacon around on 
the table last night, and happened to be listening to it at
the same time, and I noticed a slight frequency drop as I 
was moving it around. I have no explanation as to why, but
I'm going to investigate.

73 and hope you have a great day:


Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr






      

From riese-k3djc at juno.com  Thu Jan 15 12:42:08 2009
From: riese-k3djc at juno.com (riese-k3djc at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:42:08 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 600 meters tonite
Message-ID: <20090115.132425.1084.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com>

 he was as loud as i have ever heard him,, was able to copy on 
a portable radio with loopstick antenna

bob k3djc

r
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:45:39 -0800 (PST) Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr at yahoo.com>
writes:
> Great signals from the 2 Mainstays of the 600 meter frontier
> on the east coast. Pat - XSH/6 is rolling in to EM75xr at S-7 
> consistently, that's actually a little low for him, probably 
> in a slight fade when copied.  ---  Jay - XGR/6 is booming in 
> at S-9+ with some QSB.
> My noise floor with narrow filters is an S-1. That's the lowest
> I can recall it being.
> 
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
> Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
> http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr
> 
> 
>       
> _______________________________________________
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From ashlockw at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 15 13:42:44 2009
From: ashlockw at hotmail.com (Bill Ashlock)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:42:44 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] K9AY
In-Reply-To: <004901c97702$f8ca0980$0900a8c0@AM>
References: <004901c97702$f8ca0980$0900a8c0@AM>
Message-ID: <BLU149-W53D0706B050135CFF04A65C9D70@phx.gbl>


>but it is a very difficult thing to measure (the polar pattern) and I have not seen a good measurement
 
Hi again Alan,
 
Wonder if the antenna can be used as a transmitting antenna having the same pattern?? Of course the efficiency would not be good because of the high power loss in the resistor but this would allow easy mapping of the low angle signal strength and thus a polar pattern could be determined. 
 
This brings up another idea I've had for some time relative to TX loop pattern modification. I would think that by combining patterns from two different antennas there could be a gain in signal strength in a desired direction over a loop with a standard figure "8" pattern. This idea could be applied to simply reduce the portion of the magnetic field that penetrates the ground and causes Rac loss.
 
Bill> From: alan.melia at btinternet.com> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:58:08 +0000> Subject: [Lowfer] K9AY> > Hi (I have changed the subject as it was getting away from the original> post)> > Hi Bill I think your "model" is viable there is just one point that worries> me about it. If it was to act like a loop and sense it should have a> substantial signal sensitivity from the side. The reports I have seen and> the experiements done by Finbar on NDBs sujject that this is not the polar> (azimuth) pattern that they produce......but it is a very difficult thing to> measure and I have not seen a good measurement. Another thought would be is> the signal sensitivity proportional to area regardless of shape as it would> be with a loop. In this case the directionality might degrade it there was> not a significant vertical component. I certainly know that "two turn"> versions are an advantage at LF ( Hartmutt uses one to brilliant effect),> and Finbar showed the sensitivity increased by tuning (at LF) without losing> the directional effect.> > I guess no one is "wrong" they are probably just different ways (analogies?)> for the same effect. This continues to be an interesting topic (to me anyway> :-)) ) There is definitely no doubt they work! Room for some more> experimental work ?? :-))> > Alan G3NYK> > _______________________________________________> >From the Lowfer mailing list> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 15 13:50:01 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:50:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] 600 meters tonite - Operator correction
In-Reply-To: <20090115.132425.1084.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com>
Message-ID: <172431.87911.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

I goofed; thanks to Warren for pointing out to me that XGR/6
is Bob in Penn Yan, NY. not Jay - XGR/2, sorry for the mistake.
I've never seen Bobs signal that strong either, peaking in the
red, and the lowest noise floor I think I've saw in 2 years at
my QTH, an S-1 , very low for a noisy location

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Thu, 1/15/09, riese-k3djc at juno.com <riese-k3djc at juno.com> wrote:

> From: riese-k3djc at juno.com <riese-k3djc at juno.com>
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] 600 meters tonite
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 12:42 PM
> he was as loud as i have ever heard him,, was able to copy
> on 
> a portable radio with loopstick antenna
> 
> bob k3djc
> 
> r
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:45:39 -0800 (PST) Andy - KU4XR
> <ku4xr at yahoo.com>
> writes:
> > Great signals from the 2 Mainstays of the 600 meter
> frontier
> > on the east coast. Pat - XSH/6 is rolling in to EM75xr
> at S-7 
> > consistently, that's actually a little low for
> him, probably 
> > in a slight fade when copied.  ---  Jay - XGR/6 is
> booming in 
> > at S-9+ with some QSB.
> > My noise floor with narrow filters is an S-1.
> That's the lowest
> > I can recall it being.
> > 
> > Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> > LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60
> )
> > Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84*
> 3' 16"
> > http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr
> > 
> > 
> >       
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From L.Howell at conocophillips.com  Thu Jan 15 18:59:27 2009
From: L.Howell at conocophillips.com (Howell, Laurence (Shanghai/Singapore))
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:59:27 +0800
Subject: [Lowfer] An HF to LF Transmit Converter
In-Reply-To: <606731.41980.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <606731.41980.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C523CA6BB607334C90114231C4D477040161A0@tguexmb1.conoco.net>

 
Built two of these now  and simple though they, the performance is more
than adequate for my needs. I modified the local oscillator input to
allow switched internal xtal or an external GPS locked source for
tighter freq control - I have one for 137kHz and another for 500Khz and
just modified and added an additional LPF for my desired band. My ref
Osc freq is 5Mhz and drive is from a TS870S - 


http://www.kl1x.com/tvtr.jpg

Laurence 
WE2XPQ, BY3A/KL1X
x WD2XDW
Tanggu China






-----Original Message-----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Andy - KU4XR
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:14 AM
To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Lowfer] An HF to LF Transmit Converter

Hello all:

This tidbit may be of interest to some and not to others.
The following link is for an HF to LF Xmit converter:

http://users.tpg.com.au/users/ldbutler/HFtoLFConverter.htm

If all you're looking to do is transmit linear modes, it's
possible that this might work for you.

73; and GudDay:::

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      
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From we0h at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 15 20:19:25 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:19:25 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] An HF to LF Transmit Converter
In-Reply-To: <C523CA6BB607334C90114231C4D477040161A0@tguexmb1.conoco.net>
References: <606731.41980.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<C523CA6BB607334C90114231C4D477040161A0@tguexmb1.conoco.net>
Message-ID: <496FE09D.3060301@yahoo.com>

Laurence,

Are you driving it with a transverter port on the HF rig or just like 
the schematic shows with the HF rig into a 50 ohm load and tapping off 
that for the transverter signal?

Mike
WE0H



Howell, Laurence (Shanghai/Singapore) wrote:
>  
> Built two of these now  and simple though they, the performance is more
> than adequate for my needs. I modified the local oscillator input to
> allow switched internal xtal or an external GPS locked source for
> tighter freq control - I have one for 137kHz and another for 500Khz and
> just modified and added an additional LPF for my desired band. My ref
> Osc freq is 5Mhz and drive is from a TS870S - 
>
>
> http://www.kl1x.com/tvtr.jpg
>
> Laurence 
> WE2XPQ, BY3A/KL1X
> x WD2XDW
> Tanggu China

From k1eg at matrix-computers.com  Fri Jan 16 01:11:20 2009
From: k1eg at matrix-computers.com (Michael Lodico)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:11:20 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] An HF to LF Transmit Converter
In-Reply-To: <606731.41980.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <606731.41980.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <49702508.7090706@matrix-computers.com>

Hi Andy,

Thanks for that link. This looks like a very good solution to the 
problem and using his receive converter I believe will make a quite nice 
Lowfer transceiver.

73,
Mike K1EG
Glasgow, KY

Andy - KU4XR wrote:
> Hello all:
>
> This tidbit may be of interest to some and not to others.
> The following link is for an HF to LF Xmit converter:
>
> http://users.tpg.com.au/users/ldbutler/HFtoLFConverter.htm
>
> If all you're looking to do is transmit linear modes, it's
> possible that this might work for you.
>
> 73; and GudDay:::
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
> Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
> http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr
>
>
>       
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
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>   


From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Fri Jan 16 07:26:44 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:26:44 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] CV in CT
Message-ID: <001b01c977d5$b1c5f610$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

Been watching fragments of CV for a couple weeks now. Last night's capture was the most convincing 
so far. Even just 1 dB more signal would make a world of difference on the Argo screen. Nothing 
visible on Eric's frequency - sorry...

http://www.w1vd.com/capture/CV011609.jpg



From pbarick at niu.edu  Fri Jan 16 09:08:59 2009
From: pbarick at niu.edu (Peter Barick)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:08:59 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer]  XR in N IL
Message-ID: <4970409B020000C80005EDA7@wpo.cso.niu.edu>

Finally got it done: Viewed XR on a Argo 60sec screen. Copied about 4:30A this morning and likely the coldest day this century!
The temp tied a record low of -27F (set last C, '79).

My capture looks much like that of Jay's of CV, in texture. Ha, actually have one V-solid X.

Put off doing this this long for not wanting to move the loop from the more productive NE-SW position. Ah, such are the benefits of those having a working rotator in this wx.

Rx is Drake R8 and 7ft 20turn 6-pointed loop. Still no pre-amp...@#%&*

If I Don't move the loop I'll try again overnight.

Been fun chasing Garry's trail to Andy's antenna  ;=))  Peter


From cvest at cox.net  Fri Jan 16 12:43:44 2009
From: cvest at cox.net (Charles W5COV)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:43:44 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] CV in CT
References: <001b01c977d5$b1c5f610$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <C662D1EA496E4DE2BCBD768531E42217@gateway>

WOW !! Thanks Jay . Certainly the best DX ever for me . Now I will look at 
all of the jumpers and radials and really carefully load it , in search of 
that elusive 1 db to try for a solid ID .<grin> Will be looking things over 
this weekend . The high here yesterday was 12 degrees .

THANKS !!

Charlie , W5COV

CV , 185.298 kHz . , QRSS60 , 24 / 7 , EM26ex , OK. 


From k5wms at aristotle.net  Fri Jan 16 12:23:35 2009
From: k5wms at aristotle.net (PAUL DAULTON)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:23:35 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] CV in CT
Message-ID: <20090116182339.2D2A73738843@mailman.qth.net>

Wow good capture Jay. I've been looking for CV for weeks and only got
 fragments so far
same for UWL, I guess band has really been long. I am 254 miles from CV
 and  aboukt 300 from
UWL. I have some reports from Co and IL but Charles has yet to see me
 either. Nights I got
partials on CV and UWL I also saw MP. Wonder if MP was visible when you
 got CV?
Paul k5wms
Jacksonville, AR
-----Original Message-----
From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
Sent: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:26:44 -0500
To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net> 
Subject: [Lowfer] CV in CT
 
 
Been watching fragments of CV for a couple weeks now. Last night's capture
 was the most convincing  
so far. Even just 1 dB more signal would make a world of difference on the
 Argo screen. Nothing  
visible on Eric's frequency - sorry...  
 
http://www.w1vd.com/capture/CV011609.jpg  
 
 
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Fri Jan 16 13:52:48 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:52:48 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] CV in CT
References: <001b01c977d5$b1c5f610$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<C662D1EA496E4DE2BCBD768531E42217@gateway>
Message-ID: <003c01c9780b$a07a1ae0$6c01a8c0@DELL4>

Charles, Paul

Charles...I have plenty of captures with Cs and Vs right on your frequency 
so I wouldn't hesitate to call it a positive ID. It would be nice to have a 
clean bright ID for the 'scrapbook' though.

I'll be keeping an eye on CV / MP / UWL and will also start looking for WMS. 
I need to check the RX setup here...I'm not seeing WEB as well as in past 
years. Can anyone confirm reception of WEB equal to past years or know 
whether his setup has changed?

MP was apparently off the air last night.

Jay


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles W5COV" <cvest at cox.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] CV in CT


> WOW !! Thanks Jay . Certainly the best DX ever for me . Now I will look at
> all of the jumpers and radials and really carefully load it , in search of
> that elusive 1 db to try for a solid ID .<grin> Will be looking things 
> over
> this weekend . The high here yesterday was 12 degrees .
>
> THANKS !!
>
> Charlie , W5COV
>
> CV , 185.298 kHz . , QRSS60 , 24 / 7 , EM26ex , OK.
>
> _______________________________________________
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 16 14:46:37 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:46:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] XR in N IL
In-Reply-To: <4970409B020000C80005EDA7@wpo.cso.niu.edu>
Message-ID: <738086.52107.qm@web63605.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Thanks for looking Peter:

Last night was the coldest night we have had in this region
in around 15 years. dropped to 5* F with wind chill of -5* F.
a lot of people woke up to frozen water pipes, myself included.
We are supposed to drop to about 8* F tonite, and then start to
warm into the weekend.

As I retired for the evening, as I always do; I tweaked " XR " 
and it is radiating the most power since I put it on the air.
The PA current was the lowest, and the transistors were nice
and cool, no mis-matches, Max output was exactly at current dip,
It's doing what it's supposed to right now.

BTW; if you kept any captures, pse send me one so I can post it,
or keep it for record.

73 OM: I'm grateful for your effort.

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Peter Barick <pbarick at niu.edu> wrote:

> From: Peter Barick <pbarick at niu.edu>
> Subject: [Lowfer]  XR in N IL
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 9:08 AM
> Finally got it done: Viewed XR on a Argo 60sec screen.
> Copied about 4:30A this morning and likely the coldest day
> this century!
> The temp tied a record low of -27F (set last C, '79).
> 
> My capture looks much like that of Jay's of CV, in
> texture. Ha, actually have one V-solid X.
> 
> Put off doing this this long for not wanting to move the
> loop from the more productive NE-SW position. Ah, such are
> the benefits of those having a working rotator in this wx.
> 
> Rx is Drake R8 and 7ft 20turn 6-pointed loop. Still no
> pre-amp...@#%&*
> 
> If I Don't move the loop I'll try again overnight.
> 
> Been fun chasing Garry's trail to Andy's antenna 
> ;=))  Peter
> 



      

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 16 15:30:59 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:30:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] LF Transmit Converter-Now a PA question
In-Reply-To: <C523CA6BB607334C90114231C4D477040161A0@tguexmb1.conoco.net>
Message-ID: <429172.81084.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hello Everyone:

Since posting the converter link, I have received many emails
from potential LOWfrers wanting to run the digital modes on 
1750 meters, and I am one of them too. According to what I 
read abt the LM318, it will provide a max. of 200 mW drive,
so a Linear PA will be necessary. And with the 1 watt limit
on 1750, a Class AB complimentary pair looks like what's
needed. 

For the benefit of Myself, and many others who will read the
replies, what are some suggestions for a Linear PA, with 
possible design / schematics, and parts list, to get a PA
that will run the Linear modes. I'm itching for something
along with the old faithful QRSS mode.

Thanks in advance to all who will share your knowledge, 73::

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr





      

From steveratz at wildblue.net  Fri Jan 16 16:14:48 2009
From: steveratz at wildblue.net (Steve Ratzlaff)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:14:48 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Fw: K9AY's comments regarding recent thread on the K9AY
	antenna
Message-ID: <A67A8A9F610B4EBEBE557F54EDADD2F9@DG1R70F1>

I've forwarded some of the recent comments to Gary K9AY and asked if he 
wished to comment. His reply is given here.
Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "K9AY" <k9ay at k9ay.com>
> Steve,
>
> I don't mind making a few comments for the list:
>
> There have been two basic views on how the K9AY Loop operates: 1) a 
> close-spaced phased array, and 2) a type of directional coupler. The "DF 
> loop with sense antenna" analogy is the same as a directional coupler, 
> just more identifiable to hams.
>
> The close-spaced phased array can be useful as an intuitive visualization 
> aid, but with the phase gradient around the loop, you really can't reduce 
> it to a simplified model with two distinct short verticals. Still, there 
> are phased array type behaviors -- the correct terminating resistor value 
> corresonds with equal currents at the feed and terminated end, and a 
> reactive termination shifts the phase and moves the takeoff angle of the 
> rearward null.
>
> I find it most useful to consider the loop this way -- if the terminating 
> resistor is zero, it's a small loop; if the resistor is infinite, it's a 
> bent wire monopole. The optimum resistor value balances the two modes, 
> creating a single structure that combines the functions of a loop and 
> sense antenna.
>
> The antenna also has the characteristic "small loop" behavior in that the 
> induced current is proportional to the loop area. Thus, doubling the 
> enclosed area gives you 6 dB gain (in practice, it's less, since it's not 
> an ideal small loop). I have verified this with loops of larger overall 
> size, and with hexagonal loops that have more area than the same wire 
> length in the original delta shape.
>
>
> 73, Gary
> K9AY
>


From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Fri Jan 16 17:18:02 2009
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:18:02 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] CV in CT
In-Reply-To: <003c01c9780b$a07a1ae0$6c01a8c0@DELL4>
References: <001b01c977d5$b1c5f610$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<C662D1EA496E4DE2BCBD768531E42217@gateway>
	<003c01c9780b$a07a1ae0$6c01a8c0@DELL4>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP40CE94FFBF7FF6D0713CC2E9D40@phx.gbl>

Hi Jay:

  >Can anyone confirm reception of WEB equal to past years or know
> whether his setup has changed?

I did get a nice copy of WEB - and received QSL a few weeks ago. Nice
signal and got him the first night.  Conditions very quiet these last
few days so might be worth a try !

I was off - looking for XR - and got some good captures -  
unfortunately I
have to shut down when doing receiving .

> MP was apparently off the air last night.


I think I'll try for CV tonight .

Mitch

From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Fri Jan 16 17:19:46 2009
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:19:46 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XR in N IL
In-Reply-To: <738086.52107.qm@web63605.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <738086.52107.qm@web63605.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP36F120D9CB4CC3C9867AD5E9D40@phx.gbl>

> ANDY


> BTW; if you kept any captures, pse send me one so I can post it,
> or keep it for record.

-4F here last night - so that's probably the reason I got a pretty fair
copy .....I will forward -
Copy started at 11PM EST (04Z) and continued until 4AM (09Z)

Mitch

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 16 17:26:34 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:26:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Previous captures of " MP "
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP36F120D9CB4CC3C9867AD5E9D40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <935641.26588.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hey Mitch:

A few days ago I sent a couple of emails to you, and a very
nice capture of " MP " , but I'm not sure they made it to you.
Did you get anything from me recently ??

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> From: Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XR in N IL
> To: ku4xr at yahoo.com, "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 5:19 PM
> > ANDY
> 
> 
> > BTW; if you kept any captures, pse send me one so I
> can post it,
> > or keep it for record.
> 
> -4F here last night - so that's probably the reason I
> got a pretty fair
> copy .....I will forward -
> Copy started at 11PM EST (04Z) and continued until 4AM
> (09Z)
> 
> Mitch


      

From w5jgv at spectrotek.com  Fri Jan 16 18:04:16 2009
From: w5jgv at spectrotek.com (W5JGV (Ralph Hartwell))
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:04:16 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] LF Transmit Converter-Now a PA question
In-Reply-To: <429172.81084.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <JNEOJEBJLOAJOKLICDKHKEHBDAAA.w5jgv@spectrotek.com>

> For the benefit of Myself, and many others who will read the
> replies, what are some suggestions for a Linear PA, with
> possible design / schematics, and parts list, to get a PA
> that will run the Linear modes. I'm itching for something
> along with the old faithful QRSS mode.

Well, it's a bit QRO, but take a look at the driver stage in my 168 KHz
linear amplifier at

http://www.w5jgv.com/400w-ssb-amp/index.htm

The diagram for the amplifier is at

http://www.w5jgv.com/400w-ssb-amp/ssb-amp-diagram.pdf

The driver stage will produce about 5 watts. It covers a fairly wide
frequency range, and is easy to build. The power supply is anything
between about 10 and 20 volts.  It's set up as Class A for better
linearity.

Just an idea for getting started.

73,

Ralph   W5JGV - WD2XSH/7


From evp at pacbell.net  Fri Jan 16 19:54:46 2009
From: evp at pacbell.net (Ed Phillips)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:54:46 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Dave Curry's tranceiver for 1750 meters
In-Reply-To: <496EDF42.8050106@matrix-computers.com>
References: <20090115044422.638E337381ED@mailman.qth.net>
	<496EDF42.8050106@matrix-computers.com>
Message-ID: <49712C56.6060405@pacbell.net>

Hi Paul, 

These boards are for the CW version only and do not have SSB 
capability.  Most of us want SSB so that we can do the digital modes.

73,
Mike K1EG"

	Dave does have SSB designs but don't know if he has schematics convenient or not.  I'll ask him Sunday if he shows up for our regular net.

Ed



From w9nu at msn.com  Fri Jan 16 22:46:32 2009
From: w9nu at msn.com (Neil Dodson)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 03:46:32 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG copied
Message-ID: <BAY109-DS61C193B0F924FDA4E095A90D50@phx.gbl>

I copied TAG on WOLF 10 last night (Jan 16).   I'm located in EN71as in
Elkhart, Indiana.  Here is a little excerpt.   Using a 10' shielded Loop into
homebrew 50 dB amplifier into a IC706MIIG.  Using homebrew sound
card calibrator feed by a HP GPS 10 Mhz source help get everything
calibrated.  First attempt to copy a Wolf 10 signal was successful.
I got 3 or 4 hits like this one thru the night.

t: 672 f:-0.713 pm:3.489 jm:421 q: -5.9-10.1 2586 QXLGOL215R ?

t: 768 f:-0.703 pm:3.728 jm:420 q: -4.2 -7.5 7HJ9U2???J7A??? ?

t: 864 f:-0.703 pm:4.392 jm:420 q: -3.0 -7.7 OB9CTM*P1IE1CQE ?

t: 960 f:-0.693 pm:4.570 jm:421 q: -2.2 -5.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:1056 f:-0.693 pm:5.177 jm:421 q: -1.3 -4.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:1152 f:-0.693 pm:5.859 jm:421 q: -0.7 -3.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:1248 f:-0.693 pm:5.935 jm:421 q: -0.4 -3.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:1344 f:-0.693 pm:6.043 jm:421 q: -0.2 -3.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:1440 f:-0.693 pm:6.143 jm:421 q: -0.0 -3.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:1536 f:-0.693 pm:6.263 jm:421 q:  0.3 -2.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:1632 f:-0.693 pm:6.613 jm:421 q:  0.5 -2.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:1728 f:-0.693 pm:6.814 jm:421 q:  0.8 -2.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:1824 f:-0.693 pm:7.250 jm:421 q:  0.9 -1.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:1920 f:-0.693 pm:7.274 jm:421 q:  0.9 -1.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:2016 f:-0.693 pm:7.379 jm:421 q:  1.0 -1.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:2112 f:-0.693 pm:7.543 jm:421 q:  1.3 -1.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:2208 f:-0.693 pm:7.797 jm:421 q:  1.3 -1.9 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:2304 f:-0.693 pm:8.178 jm:421 q:  1.4 -1.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:2400 f:-0.693 pm:8.412 jm:421 q:  1.6 -1.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:2496 f:-0.693 pm:8.519 jm:421 q:  1.5 -1.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:2592 f:-0.693 pm:8.525 jm:421 q:  1.6 -1.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:2688 f:-0.693 pm:8.595 jm:421 q:  1.7 -1.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:2784 f:-0.693 pm:8.646 jm:421 q:  1.8 -1.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:2880 f:-0.693 pm:8.994 jm:421 q:  2.0 -1.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:2976 f:-0.693 pm:9.327 jm:421 q:  2.1 -1.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:3072 f:-0.693 pm:9.574 jm:421 q:  2.2 -1.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

t:3168 f:-0.693 pm:9.589 jm:421 q:  2.2 -1.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

2009-01-16 07:15:00 >WOLF10  -r 44100.339 -f 1000 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000

t:  24 f: 0.263 a:-1.4 dp: 65.5 ci: 7 cj:262 XK/96N50NPZN/1V -

t:  48 f: 0.034 a: 1.1 dp: 62.1 ci: 0 cj:347 BY B/3WAG 9KZ1T ?

t:  96 f: 0.699 a:-1.4 dp: 59.7 ci: 5 cj:141 SB4YJ31RC3JQVBY ?

t: 192 f: 0.93



I have been receiving much help with my setup from Dr. Garry Hess,

K3SIW without which I was not getting any Joy at all.

Thank you very much Garry!



Neil Dodson  W9NU   EN71as


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From we0h at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 16 23:02:49 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:02:49 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] /16 on PSK-31 and CW
Message-ID: <49715869.8030003@yahoo.com>

I am on the air with PSK-31 on 506.75kc. My dial says 506.25kc in USB 
but the Grabbers show it on 506.75kc or close to that. CW could be 
anywhere in the band as I feel like it...hi hi...

Mike
/16

From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Sat Jan 17 01:33:21 2009
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:33:21 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Dave Curry's tranceiver for 1750 meters
References: <20090115044422.638E337381ED@mailman.qth.net><496EDF42.8050106@matrix-computers.com>
	<49712C56.6060405@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <019101c9786f$4b918220$91dcf604@classified>

I've been waiting 13 years for the unit to be available...

Kurt

From w1tag at charter.net  Sat Jan 17 07:24:36 2009
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 07:24:36 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG copied
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DS61C193B0F924FDA4E095A90D50@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY109-DS61C193B0F924FDA4E095A90D50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4971CE04.3010805@charter.net>

Neil,

Good job! The numbers look nice, so you appear to have gotten everything 
tweaked properly. It's a good thing that there's a nice proportional 
xtal oven in the TAG transmitter, because it must have been pretty cold 
in that unheated summer camp last night.

Thanks very much for the report. All of the work in building that 
computerless WOLF rig was worth it.

John Andrews, W1TAG


From aa5am at vntx.net  Sat Jan 17 00:12:41 2009
From: aa5am at vntx.net (AA5AM - Scott Armstrong)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:12:41 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 600MRG> /16 on PSK-31 and CW
References: <49715869.8030003@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c97862$3b9ad220$6400a8c0@sun>

Mike,
Just flipped the radio back on and bam... there you are. Really loud.  This
is what I captured so far.  I also see what appears to be another PSK signal
in the waterfall but not decoding anything from it. It is very faint trace
and non-existent most of the time.

Also copying
XGR/6
XSH/6
XSH/12

73,
Scott AA5AM


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that feature. I see your listening again. Andy in Tennessee was goign to
listen also. Don't Mnow if he got any of this or not. I would think with
tiahe filtering that he could. Your HP is doina an exceslent ]ob at brin ag
the st.nal up from t ee fades. n Inctdibly strong looking signal on the
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to run silly power if I can build something like that and if I wanted to
ttttit out. I am no fan of running annoying power in such a narrow band.
Suta a nice str ng signal on teh Grabber no Can't believe how well that HP's
tight filterind is doing so teell. Very impressive indeed!!! How ar  ey
sidebands? I can't hear any sniiattering here. I see ram stilhitting o -
keys on occasion.missing spaces tto!!! hi hi...not eike a  .where I c  n go
back and ctrrect typ  l!! hi hi...OK enou_o for now. Tought to t i
e here then ae oee  eeil and type stmere. ist's are gettingLore  ...t  =
t.t 73 mikee- e c teele?e o   ivvv vvv vv"re wt 2Nsh/16 wd2x eh neeeh
 ti/, nte o :e  ea Pe



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike-WE0H" <we0h at yahoo.com>
To: "SHMRG" <shmrg at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>; "Discussion of the Lowfer
(US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:02 PM
Subject: 600MRG> /16 on PSK-31 and CW


> I am on the air with PSK-31 on 506.75kc. My dial says 506.25kc in USB
> but the Grabbers show it on 506.75kc or close to that. CW could be
> anywhere in the band as I feel like it...hi hi...
>
> Mike
> /16
>
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From pbarick at niu.edu  Sat Jan 17 09:30:51 2009
From: pbarick at niu.edu (Peter Barick)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:30:51 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer]  FCC Chairman Resigns Backed BPL
Message-ID: <4971973B020000C80005EFC7@wpo.cso.niu.edu>

Fellows,

A bulletin from the ARRL today provides this FCC news.
>>
[Chairman] Martin was a strong advocate of BPL technology, as was his
predecessor, Michael Powell, but the limited number of BPL
deployments show that BPL is not the success story it was hoped to
be. "The technical problems of trying to get BPL to run reliably on
wires that were never intended to carry high-speed digital signals
make BPL less reliable than other technologies," said ARRL
Laboratory Manager and BPL expert Ed Hare, W1RFI. "When coupled with
poor rules that encouraged interference problems, BPL was given a
poor start that it has never completely overcome."
<<

 His ties to BPL should be of interest to amateurs and esp. LowFERs.

So a new era in turbulent electronic-media times will commence Jan 20. What's next @#$% ?
--Peter

From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Jan 17 14:24:59 2009
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (J. B. Weazle McCreath)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:24:59 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WE0H PSK-31
Message-ID: <000501c978d9$4b928660$0b01a8c0@weazle>

Hi Mike, Lowfers,

Are you still transmitting PSK-31 on 506.750 kHz. as last night?
If not at the moment, do you intend to be on Saturday evening?
I'm getting weary of listening/watching CW and would like to
have more of the digital modes to try receiving.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle



From cqkg8co at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 15:00:39 2009
From: cqkg8co at yahoo.com (Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:00:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] WE0H PSK-31
In-Reply-To: <000501c978d9$4b928660$0b01a8c0@weazle>
Message-ID: <514045.7800.qm@web38501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

J.B.

Does your LOWFER system have the ability to transmit using PSK31?

Thank you


Brian, KG8CO


--- On Sat, 1/17/09, J. B. Weazle McCreath <weazle at hurontel.on.ca> wrote:

> From: J. B. Weazle McCreath <weazle at hurontel.on.ca>
> Subject: [Lowfer] WE0H PSK-31
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 2:24 PM
> Hi Mike, Lowfers,
> 
> Are you still transmitting PSK-31 on 506.750 kHz. as last
> night?
> If not at the moment, do you intend to be on Saturday
> evening?
> I'm getting weary of listening/watching CW and would
> like to
> have more of the digital modes to try receiving.
> 
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
> 
> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> To sub/unsub visit:
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Jan 17 15:40:21 2009
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (weazle)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:40:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE0H PSK-31
Message-ID: <4972424c.2d9.1851.324645421@hurontel.on.ca>

From: "Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO" <cqkg8co at yahoo.com>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer \(US, European, & UK\) and
MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WE0H PSK-31
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:00:39 -0800 (PST)

----- Original Message Follows -----
> J.B.
>
> Does your LOWFER system have the ability to transmit using
> PSK31?
>
> Thank you
>
> Brian, KG8CO

Hi Brian, Lowfers,

I'm afraid not...just QRSS30.  Someday after I've retired
I hope to build a DDS source and include the ability to
use some of the other modes.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

From we0h at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 16:29:21 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:29:21 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WE0H PSK-31
In-Reply-To: <000501c978d9$4b928660$0b01a8c0@weazle>
References: <000501c978d9$4b928660$0b01a8c0@weazle>
Message-ID: <49724DB1.9030603@yahoo.com>

Hi JB,

Yes I can send PSK31 on 506.75kc tonight. Let me know if there is a 
specific time you need and I can fire it up then. I'll be down here all 
night at the bench so no problem hitting the send key...hi hi...

Mike
WE0H
/16



J. B.  wrote:
> Hi Mike, Lowfers,
>
> Are you still transmitting PSK-31 on 506.750 kHz. as last night?
> If not at the moment, do you intend to be on Saturday evening?
> I'm getting weary of listening/watching CW and would like to
> have more of the digital modes to try receiving.
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
>
> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 17:03:13 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:03:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] WE0H PSK-31
In-Reply-To: <49724DB1.9030603@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <359414.75137.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Mike:

I want to try for you again tonite sometime after 7pm ur time.
I'm monitoring for those ever so elusive TA / WSPR signals now.
I'm not used to PSK31, so I'll need to know where to set the 
VFO to recieve you. I was ghost chasing last night. 73 for now:

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WE0H PSK-31
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 4:29 PM
> Hi JB,
> 
> Yes I can send PSK31 on 506.75kc tonight. Let me know if
> there is a 
> specific time you need and I can fire it up then. I'll
> be down here all 
> night at the bench so no problem hitting the send key...hi
> hi...
> 
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
> 
> 
> 
> J. B.  wrote:
> > Hi Mike, Lowfers,
> >
> > Are you still transmitting PSK-31 on 506.750 kHz. as
> last night?
> > If not at the moment, do you intend to be on Saturday
> evening?
> > I'm getting weary of listening/watching CW and
> would like to
> > have more of the digital modes to try receiving.
> >
> > 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> > Solar and wind powered
> > Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> > EN93dr
> >
> > http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> To sub/unsub visit:
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer


      

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 17:08:46 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:08:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon " XR " off awhile to monitor tonite
Message-ID: <994060.8770.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

I will probably turn it back on between 3 to 4 utc. I will post
when I turn it back on. Hope everyone is having a good weekend !!

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      

From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Jan 17 18:11:13 2009
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (J. B. Weazle McCreath)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:11:13 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Time for PSK-31
Message-ID: <000901c978f8$e5c9cd00$0b01a8c0@weazle>

Hi Andy, Mike, Lowfers,

Anytime this evening as fine by me, as all I have to do is startup
the relevent software.  I'm running Multi-PSK on the main box
and PSK-31SBW on the backup machine to see if there's any
major differences in how each decodes the signal.  I'll be tuned
to 506.750 kHz., the same as you used last night.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle



From we0h at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 19:14:57 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:14:57 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Time for PSK-31.../16 on 506.75kc PSK-31
In-Reply-To: <000901c978f8$e5c9cd00$0b01a8c0@weazle>
References: <000901c978f8$e5c9cd00$0b01a8c0@weazle>
Message-ID: <49727481.4040700@yahoo.com>

OK on the air a minute ago. Just sending random chatter as this modem 
doesn't have a beacon mode. ~506.75kc is the center of the signal. I 
have the audio set for a 50w signal with no data & 90w when data is 
sent. Should be a nice clean signal.

Mike
WE0H
/16

From we0h at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 19:36:31 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:36:31 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Anyone decoding that PSK noise on 506.75kc???
Message-ID: <4972798F.200@yahoo.com>

OK typed a ton of worthless chatter...hi hi...Did anyone decode it yet?

Mike
/16

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 19:51:25 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:51:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Anyone decoding that PSK noise on 506.75kc???
In-Reply-To: <4972798F.200@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <65926.35046.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

did you just do a super hi speed CW id ???

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Lowfer] Anyone decoding that PSK noise on 506.75kc???
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>, "SHMRG" <shmrg at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>
> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 7:36 PM
> OK typed a ton of worthless chatter...hi hi...Did anyone
> decode it yet?
> 
> Mike
> /16
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 19:58:15 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:58:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Finally gotcha decoding that PSK noise on 506.75kc???
In-Reply-To: <4972798F.200@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <572048.91222.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

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Signal is clearly audible above the noise


Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Lowfer] Anyone decoding that PSK noise on 506.75kc???
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>, "SHMRG" <shmrg at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>
> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 7:36 PM
> OK typed a ton of worthless chatter...hi hi...Did anyone
> decode it yet?
> 
> Mike
> /16
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From we0h at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 20:00:29 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:00:29 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Anyone decoding that PSK noise on 506.75kc???
In-Reply-To: <65926.35046.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <65926.35046.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <49727F2D.7010002@yahoo.com>

It does a CW ID after every transmission. It is pretty fast. hi 
hi...I'll go send some more stuff.

Mike



Andy - KU4XR wrote:
> did you just do a super hi speed CW id ???
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
> Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
> http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr

From cqkg8co at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 20:02:28 2009
From: cqkg8co at yahoo.com (Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:02:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Anyone decoding that PSK noise on 506.75kc???
In-Reply-To: <49727F2D.7010002@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <823229.1460.qm@web38508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mike ...

If you would, give the PSK a whirl again.  It is 1:05 UTC

Thank you

Brian, KG8CO


--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Anyone decoding that PSK noise on 506.75kc???
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 8:00 PM
> It does a CW ID after every transmission. It is pretty fast.
> hi 
> hi...I'll go send some more stuff.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> Andy - KU4XR wrote:
> > did you just do a super hi speed CW id ???
> >
> > Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> > LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60
> )
> > Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84*
> 3' 16"
> > http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> To sub/unsub visit:
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer


      

From cqkg8co at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 20:05:18 2009
From: cqkg8co at yahoo.com (Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:05:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Fw: Re:  Anyone decoding that PSK noise on 506.75kc???
Message-ID: <397565.2465.qm@web38505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello Mike ...

Here is a copy and paste ....

vvv vvv de WD2XSH/16 EN35hj Email reports to we0h at yahoo.com

Signal sounds good this evening.


Brian, KG8CO


--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Anyone decoding that PSK noise on 506.75kc???
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 8:00 PM
> It does a CW ID after every transmission. It is pretty fast.
> hi 
> hi...I'll go send some more stuff.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> Andy - KU4XR wrote:
> > did you just do a super hi speed CW id ???
> >
> > Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> > LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60
> )
> > Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84*
> 3' 16"
> > http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> To sub/unsub visit:
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From we0h at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 20:07:52 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:07:52 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Fw: Re: Anyone decoding that PSK noise on 506.75kc???
In-Reply-To: <397565.2465.qm@web38505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <397565.2465.qm@web38505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <497280E8.1040109@yahoo.com>

Perfect!!! Dave is looking at it in Boston area also. Good to hear it is 
working.

Mike

From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 20:08:55 2009
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:08:55 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Finally gotcha decoding that PSK noise on 506.75kc???
In-Reply-To: <572048.91222.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <4972798F.200@yahoo.com>
	<572048.91222.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2f80819e0901171708l5de7a446x6a9aff8673d5fd4a@mail.gmail.com>

Just got this copy hr
de Lloyd W3NF FM19MH

?o er aXkI] 3I   pot Mei?vvv vvv de WD2XSH/16 EN35hj Email repoe ts to
we0h at yahoo.come vo




On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> ?hj Emeil reports to we0h at yahoo.com 8?eeeqe
> 33!l eeD re.A?vvv?vv?de WD2XSH/16 EN35hj Email reports to we0h at yahoo.com !ni i
>  ?
>  p
> ppI -  ev Lvvv vvv de WD2XSH/16 EN35hj Email reports to we0h at yahoo.com tiK ?c?ep -Ieo ? Lmeto ieel ee
>
>
> Signal is clearly audible above the noise
>
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
> Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
> http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr
>
>
> --- On Sat, 1/17/09, Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [Lowfer] Anyone decoding that PSK noise on 506.75kc???
>> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>, "SHMRG" <shmrg at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>
>> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 7:36 PM
>> OK typed a ton of worthless chatter...hi hi...Did anyone
>> decode it yet?
>>
>> Mike
>> /16
>> _______________________________________________
>> >From the Lowfer mailing list
>> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>> To sub/unsub visit:
>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>
>
>
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 20:17:21 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:17:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] PSK on 506.75kc???
In-Reply-To: <4972798F.200@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <678368.91418.qm@web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Deep deep QSB fade here, lost lots of info, following as copied here:

 he ya?e ea o hr?o o ( etw1el2ti  ro& tr an, eA) 
tto ot >
  o?  *E nOn4
a  n et  t Th  s- e ee    eoexvoe o  WD2XSat/16 E hfo oil:eports to we0.a tea?c? to3?
 pe ee uoot IIe toiS]o?oppo
-o c -e? a N  traenio tt?oee pit in e
 o
tts fil    n  e nost  tt?as lte soo ep?erlye.eee ee.oet
?dybees and ?ttingvey tha thas thorshort mess?e pe ogrebed into tit.eeprmamed...there, that's be1er sptlling huh? hi hi s..neeeettoighTo ?t hHe an   ty? worhless bantere ohen raere is no orDrtotaeions to teeworeek yApn teh band in PSK.WMheeee]evtuallc oeler?ca'nh-o ?m  awe cantoicamenG-  aockina ots.rpi ho l   eo  -eetsP     etSesen Ss le it wo gith etC
asl we io pI600]eter  . sot bad afh. some aGrd lntteas bitt CN w old hove ossuet as ?eeer..ki of neat doing thil oerho o bend any?e it's all hbig eu3eriment right?e eetow yoqLowfer ?ys need l  oet on b750 mebrsaand r    meoK31 
r Oliiae. I iaiek it ws.guwal eeeJanueary QeeSTithaaitiep ar  icl on  hliv ?de. eeoppoLtgtoak oeell below ?e noise floor which woul- ? perf	t forgowfe=stitions.eo.eSo  let that SSB r-l figured oNafo r1750me eeand get moving on digital modes and two waKchatting (QSae's)  hi ?...got?li3e sending [ ters and s?ff you cna 't send ! CW huh??? eOK enough for now, back to sendin%the genericlsignals.ee73's es thanks much ?r listening.  u /9ld like a L car? &ail midire? at wel0eet at c Booel?.t ?Doskea I?en  orie? Imt of c,meot .?o? 73 r leeeeehsneeoae1ixe, WE0 ?eND2XS?e al/16wteoCk ?zTpIA	?e y nx ??X -
eeeScoete!  dutd Jtgi:pMm? i?? eo an e e ?e ae lo 
 | a! r? mH-K  eetrif.Rwe o ite  ?t6ae th n?eIe=



Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr





      

From we0h at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 20:18:32 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:18:32 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Finally gotcha decoding that PSK noise on 506.75kc???
In-Reply-To: <2f80819e0901171708l5de7a446x6a9aff8673d5fd4a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4972798F.200@yahoo.com>	<572048.91222.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<2f80819e0901171708l5de7a446x6a9aff8673d5fd4a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49728368.1010908@yahoo.com>

Yea this is so cool. Dave got it in Boston area also. I just got done 
typing a whole lott'a stuff.

Mike



lloyd chastant wrote:
> Just got this copy hr
> de Lloyd W3NF FM19MH
>
> ?o er aXkI] 3I   pot Mei?vvv vvv de WD2XSH/16 EN35hj Email repoe ts to
> we0h at yahoo.come vo
>   

From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 20:26:46 2009
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:26:46 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Finally gotcha decoding that PSK noise on 506.75kc???
In-Reply-To: <49728368.1010908@yahoo.com>
References: <4972798F.200@yahoo.com>
	<572048.91222.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<2f80819e0901171708l5de7a446x6a9aff8673d5fd4a@mail.gmail.com>
	<49728368.1010908@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2f80819e0901171726ie894283o37a7cc1b26447f22@mail.gmail.com>

Got this

aet ro yf  etvvv vvv de WD2XSH/16 running 90w into a 70' inverted L
vertical. Grid sq EN35hj. Homebrew transverter into a TS-930 rig.
Email reports  s we0h at yahoo.com indicatin e if you want a QlL card. Th
 s for listening es 73's froee Minnesota...8?  o
de Lloyd W3NF

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yea this is so cool. Dave got it in Boston area also. I just got done
> typing a whole lott'a stuff.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> lloyd chastant wrote:
>> Just got this copy hr
>> de Lloyd W3NF FM19MH
>>
>> ?o er aXkI] 3I   pot Mei?vvv vvv de WD2XSH/16 EN35hj Email repoe ts to
>> we0h at yahoo.come vo
>>
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>

From we0h at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 20:38:06 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:38:06 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] PSK on 506.75kc???
In-Reply-To: <678368.91418.qm@web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <678368.91418.qm@web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <497287FE.1000207@yahoo.com>

Not to bad Andy. A bit chopped up but still some valid data. The band is 
up & down right now.

Mike



Andy - KU4XR wrote:
> Deep deep QSB fade here, lost lots of info, following as copied here:
>
>  he ya?e ea o hr?o o ( etw1el2ti  ro& tr an, eA) 
> tto ot >
>   o?  *E nOn4
> a  n et  t Th  s- e ee    eoexvoe o  WD2XSat/16 E hfo oil:eports to we0.a tea?c? to3?
>  pe ee uoot IIe toiS]o?oppo
> -o c -e? a N  traenio tt?oee pit in e
>  o
> tts fil    n  e nost  tt?as lte soo ep?erlye.eee ee.oet
> ?dybees and ?ttingvey tha thas thorshort mess?e pe ogrebed into tit.eeprmamed...there, that's be1er sptlling huh? hi hi s..neeeettoighTo ?t hHe an   ty? worhless bantere ohen raere is no orDrtotaeions to teeworeek yApn teh band in PSK.WMheeee]evtuallc oeler?ca'nh-o ?m  awe cantoicamenG-  aockina ots.rpi ho l   eo  -eetsP     etSesen Ss le it wo gith etC
> asl we io pI600]eter  . sot bad afh. some aGrd lntteas bitt CN w old hove ossuet as ?eeer..ki of neat doing thil oerho o bend any?e it's all hbig eu3eriment right?e eetow yoqLowfer ?ys need l  oet on b750 mebrsaand r    meoK31 
> r Oliiae. I iaiek it ws.guwal eeeJanueary QeeSTithaaitiep ar  icl on  hliv ?de. eeoppoLtgtoak oeell below ?e noise floor which woul- ? perf	t forgowfe=stitions.eo.eSo  let that SSB r-l figured oNafo r1750me eeand get moving on digital modes and two waKchatting (QSae's)  hi ?...got?li3e sending [ ters and s?ff you cna 't send ! CW huh??? eOK enough for now, back to sendin%the genericlsignals.ee73's es thanks much ?r listening.  u /9ld like a L car? &ail midire? at wel0eet at c Booel?.t ?Doskea I?en  orie? Imt of c,meot .?o? 73 r leeeeehsneeoae1ixe, WE0 ?eND2XS?e al/16wteoCk ?zTpIA	?e y nx ??X -
> eeeScoete!  dutd Jtgi:pMm? i?  eo an e e ?e ae lo 
>  | a! r? mH-K  eetrif.Rwe o ite  ?t6ae th n?eIe=
>
>
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
> Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
> http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr
>   

From we0h at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 20:41:25 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:41:25 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Finally gotcha decoding that PSK noise on 506.75kc???
In-Reply-To: <2f80819e0901171726ie894283o37a7cc1b26447f22@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4972798F.200@yahoo.com>	<572048.91222.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com>	<2f80819e0901171708l5de7a446x6a9aff8673d5fd4a@mail.gmail.com>	<49728368.1010908@yahoo.com>
	<2f80819e0901171726ie894283o37a7cc1b26447f22@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497288C5.1080702@yahoo.com>

Hi Lloyd,

That is my 3rd macro I saved. I have to sit down and type in some more 
stuff on another one. Andy caught when I was live at the keyboard 
sending a whole lot of chatter!!! hi hi... It would be nice if I could 
get this modem to run as a beacon rather than having to be at the 
keyboard. Eventually I think. Just have to find someone to edit C code 
and then load the new software.

Mike



lloyd chastant wrote:
> Got this
>
> aet ro yf  etvvv vvv de WD2XSH/16 running 90w into a 70' inverted L
> vertical. Grid sq EN35hj. Homebrew transverter into a TS-930 rig.
> Email reports  s we0h at yahoo.com indicatin e if you want a QlL card. Th
>  s for listening es 73's froee Minnesota...8?  o
> de Lloyd W3NF
>

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Jan 17 20:49:40 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:49:40 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
Message-ID: <004301c9790f$073bce00$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

Been a while since we've played 'name that mode'. Frequency is 508.5 kHz. Will switch on the half 
hour as follows:

0200 - 0230  mode 1
0230 - 0300  mode 2
0300 - 0330  mode 3
0330 - 0400  mode 4

Obviously stations close in will have an advantage. Reports are appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

p.s. TX is up and running now... 


From steveratz at wildblue.net  Sat Jan 17 20:59:45 2009
From: steveratz at wildblue.net (Steve Ratzlaff)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:59:45 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Fw: Re: Anyone decoding that PSK noise on 506.75kc???
References: <397565.2465.qm@web38505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<497280E8.1040109@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0A1AC2A55913403496E9DEA6966DCAB6@DG1R70F1>

I just heard the carrier change to a PSK signal at 0156 utc, then just gave 
a CW full ident at 0157 utc.
I have no way to decode PSK (nor have ever tried to do that), but the signal 
was good and probably would have decoded since it was easy aural copy (250Hz 
IF filter).
Steve AA7U
NE Oregon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike-WE0H" <we0h at yahoo.com>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Fw: Re: Anyone decoding that PSK noise on 506.75kc???


> Perfect!!! Dave is looking at it in Boston area also. Good to hear it is
> working.
>
> Mike
> _______________________________________________
>>From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer 


From we0h at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 21:06:37 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:06:37 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Fw: Re: Anyone decoding that PSK noise on 506.75kc???
In-Reply-To: <0A1AC2A55913403496E9DEA6966DCAB6@DG1R70F1>
References: <397565.2465.qm@web38505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<497280E8.1040109@yahoo.com>
	<0A1AC2A55913403496E9DEA6966DCAB6@DG1R70F1>
Message-ID: <49728EAD.3000200@yahoo.com>

We have a pipeline from here to there Steve!!! I changed over to CW 
beaconing on 506.25kc now. Hard to get stuff done at the bench and 
running around checking emails and running the other keyboard...hi 
hi...Sure was fun tonight. Reports from the East coast to the West 
coast. Not to bad for only 90w.

Mike



Steve Ratzlaff wrote:
> I just heard the carrier change to a PSK signal at 0156 utc, then just gave 
> a CW full ident at 0157 utc.
> I have no way to decode PSK (nor have ever tried to do that), but the signal 
> was good and probably would have decoded since it was easy aural copy (250Hz 
> IF filter).
> Steve AA7U
> NE Oregon

From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 21:18:19 2009
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 02:18:19 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Wolf tonite
Message-ID: <2f80819e0901171818tf192608y69a1c7afa42b37da@mail.gmail.com>

de Lloyd W3NF
2009-01-18 01:28:51 >WOLF10  -r 7999.440 -f 800 -t 1.0 -d 31 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.579 a: 0.4 dp: 63.8 ci: 0 cj:185 0N36NRREUJVRZOR ?
t:  48 f: 0.605 a: 0.3 dp: 59.4 ci: 5 cj:423 QHG3N ???DYITP4 ?
t:  96 f:-0.005 a: 1.4 dp: 54.8 ci: 2 cj: 45 OJ.574IHX8R.LGU ?
t: 192 f:-0.039 pm:3.528 jm:552 q: -8.8 -7.4 2ZYBTI3DP1F*0IL ?
t: 288 f:-0.039 pm:7.365 jm:552 q: -5.8 -5.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 384 f:-0.039 pm:9.767 jm:552 q: -5.1 -8.7 TAG RAYMOND KS2 ?
t: 480 f:-0.039 pm:11.18 jm:552 q: -5.0 -8.6 7JW.LYCAZVB4PUH ?
t: 576 f:-0.039 pm:14.53 jm:552 q: -3.8 -4.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 672 f:-0.039 pm:18.86 jm:552 q: -2.2 -3.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 768 f:-0.039 pm:23.27 jm:552 q: -1.3 -2.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 864 f:-0.039 pm:24.14 jm:552 q: -1.1 -1.8 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 960 f:-0.039 pm:27.37 jm:552 q: -0.4 -1.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1056 f:-0.039 pm:28.75 jm:552 q:  0.0 -1.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1152 f:-0.039 pm:29.61 jm:552 q:  0.2 -1.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1248 f:-0.039 pm:30.08 jm:552 q:  0.1 -0.9 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1344 f:-0.039 pm:30.45 jm:552 q:  0.2 -0.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1440 f:-0.039 pm:31.89 jm:552 q:  0.4 -0.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1536 f:-0.039 pm:32.74 jm:552 q:  0.7 -0.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1632 f:-0.039 pm:33.09 jm:552 q:  0.6 -0.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1728 f:-0.039 pm:33.47 jm:552 q:  0.8 -0.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1824 f:-0.039 pm:33.73 jm:552 q:  1.0 -0.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1920 f:-0.039 pm:33.91 jm:552 q:  1.2 -0.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2016 f:-0.039 pm:34.55 jm:552 q:  1.2 -0.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2112 f:-0.039 pm:34.99 jm:552 q:  1.2 -0.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2208 f:-0.039 pm:35.95 jm:552 q:  1.5 -0.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2304 f:-0.039 pm:39.03 jm:552 q:  2.0  0.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2400 f:-0.039 pm:41.12 jm:552 q:  2.3  0.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

From steveratz at wildblue.net  Sat Jan 17 21:38:53 2009
From: steveratz at wildblue.net (Steve Ratzlaff)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:38:53 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
References: <004301c9790f$073bce00$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <7FD8186F69BF48649289CB4A19D97C9C@DG1R70F1>

Easy aural copy of the carrier here, 0237 utc. Can hear occasional 
modulation. Static isn't too bad so far, but seems to be building.
Steve
NE Oregon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
To: "SHMRG at piobaire.mines.ui" <SHMRG at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>; 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 5:49 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] Name that mode...


> Been a while since we've played 'name that mode'. Frequency is 508.5 kHz. 
> Will switch on the half
> hour as follows:
>
> 0200 - 0230  mode 1
> 0230 - 0300  mode 2
> 0300 - 0330  mode 3
> 0330 - 0400  mode 4
>
> Obviously stations close in will have an advantage. Reports are 
> appreciated.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
> p.s. TX is up and running now...
>
> _______________________________________________
>>From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer 


From w1tag at charter.net  Sat Jan 17 21:42:42 2009
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 21:42:42 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
In-Reply-To: <7FD8186F69BF48649289CB4A19D97C9C@DG1R70F1>
References: <004301c9790f$073bce00$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<7FD8186F69BF48649289CB4A19D97C9C@DG1R70F1>
Message-ID: <49729722.70909@charter.net>

0200-0230 was 45 Baud RTTY, 170 Hz shift.

JA

Steve Ratzlaff wrote:
> Easy aural copy of the carrier here, 0237 utc. Can hear occasional 
> modulation. Static isn't too bad so far, but seems to be building.
> Steve
> NE Oregon
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
> To: "SHMRG at piobaire.mines.ui" <SHMRG at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>; 
> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 5:49 PM
> Subject: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
> 
> 
>> Been a while since we've played 'name that mode'. Frequency is 508.5 kHz. 
>> Will switch on the half
>> hour as follows:
>>
>> 0200 - 0230  mode 1
>> 0230 - 0300  mode 2
>> 0300 - 0330  mode 3
>> 0330 - 0400  mode 4
>>
>> Obviously stations close in will have an advantage. Reports are 
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>> p.s. TX is up and running now...
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> >From the Lowfer mailing list
>> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer 
> 
> _______________________________________________
>>From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1899 - Release Date: 1/17/2009 5:50 PM
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Jan 17 21:43:32 2009
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (J. B. Weazle McCreath)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 02:43:32 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Time for PSK-31
References: <000901c978f8$e5c9cd00$0b01a8c0@weazle>
Message-ID: <000001c97916$8ee232c0$0b01a8c0@weazle>

Hi Mike, Lowfers,

I just came up from below and was surprised that I had nothing on
either of my screens.  It is a bit noisy here this evening, but I still
expected to have at least some copy.  I wonder if I had the right
mode selected?  Which mode where you, QPSK or BPSK?

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle



From we0h at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 21:50:37 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:50:37 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Time for PSK-31
In-Reply-To: <000001c97916$8ee232c0$0b01a8c0@weazle>
References: <000901c978f8$e5c9cd00$0b01a8c0@weazle>
	<000001c97916$8ee232c0$0b01a8c0@weazle>
Message-ID: <497298FD.3050303@yahoo.com>

It was BPSK. I got a couple reports that it was on 506.79kc

Mike



J. B.  wrote:
> Hi Mike, Lowfers,
>
> I just came up from below and was surprised that I had nothing on
> either of my screens.  It is a bit noisy here this evening, but I still
> expected to have at least some copy.  I wonder if I had the right
> mode selected?  Which mode where you, QPSK or BPSK?
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
>
> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle

From w1tag at charter.net  Sat Jan 17 22:01:27 2009
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:01:27 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
In-Reply-To: <49729722.70909@charter.net>
References: <004301c9790f$073bce00$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>	<7FD8186F69BF48649289CB4A19D97C9C@DG1R70F1>
	<49729722.70909@charter.net>
Message-ID: <49729B87.8060101@charter.net>

0230-0300 was WOLF 10.

John Andrews wrote:
> 0200-0230 was 45 Baud RTTY, 170 Hz shift.
> 
> JA
> 
> Steve Ratzlaff wrote:
>> Easy aural copy of the carrier here, 0237 utc. Can hear occasional 
>> modulation. Static isn't too bad so far, but seems to be building.
>> Steve
>> NE Oregon
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
>> To: "SHMRG at piobaire.mines.ui" <SHMRG at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>; 
>> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 5:49 PM
>> Subject: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
>>
>>
>>> Been a while since we've played 'name that mode'. Frequency is 508.5 kHz. 
>>> Will switch on the half
>>> hour as follows:
>>>
>>> 0200 - 0230  mode 1
>>> 0230 - 0300  mode 2
>>> 0300 - 0330  mode 3
>>> 0330 - 0400  mode 4
>>>
>>> Obviously stations close in will have an advantage. Reports are 
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>>
>>> p.s. TX is up and running now...
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >From the Lowfer mailing list
>>> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>>> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer 
>> _______________________________________________
>> >From the Lowfer mailing list
>> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
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> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
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> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
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> 

From steveratz at wildblue.net  Sat Jan 17 22:03:04 2009
From: steveratz at wildblue.net (Steve Ratzlaff)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:03:04 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
References: <004301c9790f$073bce00$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL><7FD8186F69BF48649289CB4A19D97C9C@DG1R70F1>
	<49729722.70909@charter.net>
Message-ID: <FC182782F15845AD873DAB093B3BB27E@DG1R70F1>

Mode two stopped at 0258 utc; mode 3 began at 0300. No clue what mode 2 was, 
but interesting to listen with 6Hz audio filter. Mode 3 has no carrier, 
harder to copy aurally without a reference, but has very interesting 
varied-frequency tones. Neat!
What was mode 2?
Steve
NE Oregon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag at charter.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Name that mode...


> 0200-0230 was 45 Baud RTTY, 170 Hz shift.
>
> JA
>
> Steve Ratzlaff wrote:
>> Easy aural copy of the carrier here, 0237 utc. Can hear occasional
>> modulation. Static isn't too bad so far, but seems to be building.
>> Steve
>> NE Oregon
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
>> To: "SHMRG at piobaire.mines.ui" <SHMRG at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>;
>> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 5:49 PM
>> Subject: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
>>
>>
>>> Been a while since we've played 'name that mode'. Frequency is 508.5 
>>> kHz.
>>> Will switch on the half
>>> hour as follows:
>>>
>>> 0200 - 0230  mode 1
>>> 0230 - 0300  mode 2
>>> 0300 - 0330  mode 3
>>> 0330 - 0400  mode 4
>>>
>>> Obviously stations close in will have an advantage. Reports are
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>>
>>> p.s. TX is up and running now...
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >From the Lowfer mailing list
>>> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>>> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>>From the Lowfer mailing list
>> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1899 - Release Date: 
>> 1/17/2009 5:50 PM
>>
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From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 22:12:25 2009
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:12:25 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
In-Reply-To: <7FD8186F69BF48649289CB4A19D97C9C@DG1R70F1>
References: <004301c9790f$073bce00$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<7FD8186F69BF48649289CB4A19D97C9C@DG1R70F1>
Message-ID: <2f80819e0901171912n4befe666k9c95a95f828721a@mail.gmail.com>

Gotta go but copy
de Lloyd W3NF


#1
 XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTING RTTY 45 BAUD / 170 HZ SHIFT ...
WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTING RTTY 45 BAUD / 170 HZ SHIFT ...
WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTING RTTY 45 BAUD / 170 HZ SHIFT ...
WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTING RTTY 45 BAUD / 170 HZ SHIFT ...
)WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTING RTTY 45 BAUD / 170 HZ SHIFT ...
WE2XGR/2 BURLINGTON CT FN31IS TESTING RTTY 45 BAUD / 170 HZ SHIFT ...

#2 ?


#3
WE2XGR/2 Burlington CT FN31IS testing MFSK8 ...
WE2XGR/2 Burlington CT FN31IS testing MFSK8 ...
WE2XGR/2 Burlington CT FN31IS testing MFSK8 ...
WE2XGR/2 Burlington CT FN31IS testing MFSK8 ...
WE2XGR/2 Burlington CT FN31IS testing MFSK8 ...
WE2XGR/2




On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 2:38 AM, Steve Ratzlaff <steveratz at wildblue.net> wrote:
> Easy aural copy of the carrier here, 0237 utc. Can hear occasional
> modulation. Static isn't too bad so far, but seems to be building.
> Steve
> NE Oregon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
> To: "SHMRG at piobaire.mines.ui" <SHMRG at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>;
> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 5:49 PM
> Subject: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
>
>
>> Been a while since we've played 'name that mode'. Frequency is 508.5 kHz.
>> Will switch on the half
>> hour as follows:
>>
>> 0200 - 0230  mode 1
>> 0230 - 0300  mode 2
>> 0300 - 0330  mode 3
>> 0330 - 0400  mode 4
>>
>> Obviously stations close in will have an advantage. Reports are
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>> p.s. TX is up and running now...
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>>From the Lowfer mailing list
>> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Jan 17 22:17:14 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:17:14 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
References: <004301c9790f$073bce00$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL><7FD8186F69BF48649289CB4A19D97C9C@DG1R70F1><49729722.70909@charter.net>
	<FC182782F15845AD873DAB093B3BB27E@DG1R70F1>
Message-ID: <001601c9791b$42acab60$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

Steve

John and Lloyd are 'old hands' at this and have copied all of the modes so far.

Mode 1  RTTY 45 baud / 170 Hz shift
Mode 2  WOLF 10
Mode 3  MFSK8

The fact that the signal is audible, albeit in a 6 Hz BW,  means that you should be able to decode 
some of these modes. RTTY would be a stretch but WOLF 10 should be a piece of cake. Perhaps you 
aren't interested in the digital modes...but it would sure be nice to have a west coast US 
monitoring station active for the various modes. VE7TIL and VE7SL are active but it seems somewhat 
hit or miss with them.

Jay


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Ratzlaff" <steveratz at wildblue.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Name that mode...


> Mode two stopped at 0258 utc; mode 3 began at 0300. No clue what mode 2 was,
> but interesting to listen with 6Hz audio filter. Mode 3 has no carrier,
> harder to copy aurally without a reference, but has very interesting
> varied-frequency tones. Neat!
> What was mode 2?
> Steve
> NE Oregon
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Andrews" <w1tag at charter.net>
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands"
> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 6:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
>
>
>> 0200-0230 was 45 Baud RTTY, 170 Hz shift.
>>
>> JA
>>
>> Steve Ratzlaff wrote:
>>> Easy aural copy of the carrier here, 0237 utc. Can hear occasional
>>> modulation. Static isn't too bad so far, but seems to be building.
>>> Steve
>>> NE Oregon
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
>>> To: "SHMRG at piobaire.mines.ui" <SHMRG at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>;
>>> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 5:49 PM
>>> Subject: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Been a while since we've played 'name that mode'. Frequency is 508.5
>>>> kHz.
>>>> Will switch on the half
>>>> hour as follows:
>>>>
>>>> 0200 - 0230  mode 1
>>>> 0230 - 0300  mode 2
>>>> 0300 - 0330  mode 3
>>>> 0330 - 0400  mode 4
>>>>
>>>> Obviously stations close in will have an advantage. Reports are
>>>> appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>>>
>>>> p.s. TX is up and running now...
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> >From the Lowfer mailing list
>>>> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>>>> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>From the Lowfer mailing list
>>> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>>> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1899 - Release Date:
>>> 1/17/2009 5:50 PM
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>>From the Lowfer mailing list
>> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Jan 17 22:20:21 2009
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (J. B. Weazle McCreath)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:20:21 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Time for PSK-31
References: <000901c978f8$e5c9cd00$0b01a8c0@weazle><000001c97916$8ee232c0$0b01a8c0@weazle>
	<497298FD.3050303@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000401c9791b$b3ce7620$0b01a8c0@weazle>

Hi Mike, Lowfers,

I had the correct mode, but maybe the fact that I had set the centre
frequency to .750 while you where on .790 was the problem.
We'll have to try again another night.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle



From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 22:21:35 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:21:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
In-Reply-To: <001601c9791b$42acab60$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <21756.5333.qm@web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

31IS testing MFSK8 ...
WE2XGR/2 Burlington CT FN31IS testing MFSK8 ...
WE2XGR/2 BurlingGn CT FN31IS testing MFSK8 ...
WE2XGR/2 Burlington CT FN31IS testing MFSK8 ...


Just got in on this, been on the phone:

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Sat, 1/17/09, jrusgrove at comcast.net <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> From: jrusgrove at comcast.net <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 10:17 PM
> Steve
> 
> John and Lloyd are 'old hands' at this and have
> copied all of the modes so far.
> 
> Mode 1  RTTY 45 baud / 170 Hz shift
> Mode 2  WOLF 10
> Mode 3  MFSK8
> 
> The fact that the signal is audible, albeit in a 6 Hz BW, 
> means that you should be able to decode 
> some of these modes. RTTY would be a stretch but WOLF 10
> should be a piece of cake. Perhaps you 
> aren't interested in the digital modes...but it would
> sure be nice to have a west coast US 
> monitoring station active for the various modes. VE7TIL and
> VE7SL are active but it seems somewhat 
> hit or miss with them.
> 
> Jay
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Ratzlaff"
> <steveratz at wildblue.net>
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European,
> &amp;UK) and MedFer bands"
> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
> 
> 
> > Mode two stopped at 0258 utc; mode 3 began at 0300. No
> clue what mode 2 was,
> > but interesting to listen with 6Hz audio filter. Mode
> 3 has no carrier,
> > harder to copy aurally without a reference, but has
> very interesting
> > varied-frequency tones. Neat!
> > What was mode 2?
> > Steve
> > NE Oregon
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "John Andrews"
> <w1tag at charter.net>
> > To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European,
> &amp;UK) and MedFer bands"
> > <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 6:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
> >
> >
> >> 0200-0230 was 45 Baud RTTY, 170 Hz shift.
> >>
> >> JA
> >>
> >> Steve Ratzlaff wrote:
> >>> Easy aural copy of the carrier here, 0237 utc.
> Can hear occasional
> >>> modulation. Static isn't too bad so far,
> but seems to be building.
> >>> Steve
> >>> NE Oregon
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
> >>> To: "SHMRG at piobaire.mines.ui"
> <SHMRG at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>;
> >>> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 5:49 PM
> >>> Subject: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Been a while since we've played
> 'name that mode'. Frequency is 508.5
> >>>> kHz.
> >>>> Will switch on the half
> >>>> hour as follows:
> >>>>
> >>>> 0200 - 0230  mode 1
> >>>> 0230 - 0300  mode 2
> >>>> 0300 - 0330  mode 3
> >>>> 0330 - 0400  mode 4
> >>>>
> >>>> Obviously stations close in will have an
> advantage. Reports are
> >>>> appreciated.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> >>>>
> >>>> p.s. TX is up and running now...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> _______________________________________________
> >>>> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> >>>> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> >>>> To sub/unsub visit:
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
> >>>
> >>>
> _______________________________________________
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 22:25:06 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:25:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Time for PSK-31
In-Reply-To: <000401c9791b$b3ce7620$0b01a8c0@weazle>
Message-ID: <798669.44520.qm@web63605.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

J.B.

I had to set my vfo in USB to 505.750, and Mike showed up slightly
above the 1000 cycle mark on the waterfall. I was able to get some
decode, but the band is up and down tonite.

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Sat, 1/17/09, J. B. Weazle McCreath <weazle at hurontel.on.ca> wrote:

> From: J. B. Weazle McCreath <weazle at hurontel.on.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Time for PSK-31
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 10:20 PM
> Hi Mike, Lowfers,
> 
> I had the correct mode, but maybe the fact that I had set
> the centre
> frequency to .750 while you where on .790 was the problem.
> We'll have to try again another night.
> 
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
> 
> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
> 
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From sthed475 at telus.net  Sat Jan 17 22:30:10 2009
From: sthed475 at telus.net (Scott Tilley)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:30:10 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
In-Reply-To: <001601c9791b$42acab60$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <004301c9790f$073bce00$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL><7FD8186F69BF48649289CB4A19D97C9C@DG1R70F1><49729722.70909@charter.net>	<FC182782F15845AD873DAB093B3BB27E@DG1R70F1>
	<001601c9791b$42acab60$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <4972A242.6060003@telus.net>

Hi Jay

I'm configured for 2200m at the present time. But could be convinced to 
reconfigure for 600m RX with a days notice.

73 Scott




jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
> Steve
>
> John and Lloyd are 'old hands' at this and have copied all of the modes so far.
>
> Mode 1  RTTY 45 baud / 170 Hz shift
> Mode 2  WOLF 10
> Mode 3  MFSK8
>
> The fact that the signal is audible, albeit in a 6 Hz BW,  means that you should be able to decode 
> some of these modes. RTTY would be a stretch but WOLF 10 should be a piece of cake. Perhaps you 
> aren't interested in the digital modes...but it would sure be nice to have a west coast US 
> monitoring station active for the various modes. VE7TIL and VE7SL are active but it seems somewhat 
> hit or miss with them.
>
> Jay
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Ratzlaff" <steveratz at wildblue.net>
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
>
>
>   
>> Mode two stopped at 0258 utc; mode 3 began at 0300. No clue what mode 2 was,
>> but interesting to listen with 6Hz audio filter. Mode 3 has no carrier,
>> harder to copy aurally without a reference, but has very interesting
>> varied-frequency tones. Neat!
>> What was mode 2?
>> Steve
>> NE Oregon
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John Andrews" <w1tag at charter.net>
>> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands"
>> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 6:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
>>
>>
>>     
>>> 0200-0230 was 45 Baud RTTY, 170 Hz shift.
>>>
>>> JA
>>>
>>> Steve Ratzlaff wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Easy aural copy of the carrier here, 0237 utc. Can hear occasional
>>>> modulation. Static isn't too bad so far, but seems to be building.
>>>> Steve
>>>> NE Oregon
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "SHMRG at piobaire.mines.ui" <SHMRG at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>;
>>>> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 5:49 PM
>>>> Subject: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Been a while since we've played 'name that mode'. Frequency is 508.5
>>>>> kHz.
>>>>> Will switch on the half
>>>>> hour as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> 0200 - 0230  mode 1
>>>>> 0230 - 0300  mode 2
>>>>> 0300 - 0330  mode 3
>>>>> 0330 - 0400  mode 4
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously stations close in will have an advantage. Reports are
>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>>>>
>>>>> p.s. TX is up and running now...
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
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From we0h at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 22:30:05 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 21:30:05 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Time for PSK-31
In-Reply-To: <000401c9791b$b3ce7620$0b01a8c0@weazle>
References: <000901c978f8$e5c9cd00$0b01a8c0@weazle><000001c97916$8ee232c0$0b01a8c0@weazle>	<497298FD.3050303@yahoo.com>
	<000401c9791b$b3ce7620$0b01a8c0@weazle>
Message-ID: <4972A23D.6050607@yahoo.com>

Let me know what night and time & I will put a signal on the air. No 
problem. I am home most every day & night.

Mike



J. B.  wrote:
> Hi Mike, Lowfers,
>
> I had the correct mode, but maybe the fact that I had set the centre
> frequency to .750 while you where on .790 was the problem.
> We'll have to try again another night.
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
>
> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle

From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Jan 17 22:32:23 2009
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (J. B. Weazle McCreath)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:32:23 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Time for PSK-31
References: <798669.44520.qm@web63605.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c9791d$690641c0$0b01a8c0@weazle>

Hi Andy, Lowfers,

Sounds like the frquency was my problem.  I leave the rig in USB all
the time, and then set my Timewave to whatever centre frequency
and bandwidth is required.  It has worked well in the past, but from
what you're saying, my being centred on .750 might have meant he
was out of my passband.  Oh well, there'll be other opportunities.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle



From steveratz at wildblue.net  Sat Jan 17 22:37:26 2009
From: steveratz at wildblue.net (Steve Ratzlaff)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:37:26 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
References: <004301c9790f$073bce00$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>	<7FD8186F69BF48649289CB4A19D97C9C@DG1R70F1><49729722.70909@charter.net>
	<49729B87.8060101@charter.net>
Message-ID: <80FE7BF419CF4E05BC8226F9BA8D7F35@DG1R70F1>

Mode 3 was good aural copy the first 20 minutes, even fairly strong, then 
conditions deteriorated the last 10 minutes. Mode 4 now has a carrier at 
poor level; I don't hear any obvious variation/modulation to it when 
switching to 6Hz filter though. But conditions are much poorer right now 
though static isn't increasing any more than before. Thanks for the test, 
even though I have no software for decoding other than Argo.
Steve
NE Oregon
R75, 1600' E/W longwire

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag at charter.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Name that mode...


> 0230-0300 was WOLF 10.
>
> John Andrews wrote:
>> 0200-0230 was 45 Baud RTTY, 170 Hz shift.
>>
>> JA
>>
>> Steve Ratzlaff wrote:
>>> Easy aural copy of the carrier here, 0237 utc. Can hear occasional
>>> modulation. Static isn't too bad so far, but seems to be building.
>>> Steve
>>> NE Oregon
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
>>> To: "SHMRG at piobaire.mines.ui" <SHMRG at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>;
>>> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 5:49 PM
>>> Subject: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Been a while since we've played 'name that mode'. Frequency is 508.5 
>>>> kHz.
>>>> Will switch on the half
>>>> hour as follows:
>>>>
>>>> 0200 - 0230  mode 1
>>>> 0230 - 0300  mode 2
>>>> 0300 - 0330  mode 3
>>>> 0330 - 0400  mode 4
>>>>
>>>> Obviously stations close in will have an advantage. Reports are
>>>> appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>>>
>>>> p.s. TX is up and running now...
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> >From the Lowfer mailing list
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
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From w5jgv at spectrotek.com  Sat Jan 17 22:39:05 2009
From: w5jgv at spectrotek.com (W5JGV (Ralph Hartwell))
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 21:39:05 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Finally gotcha decoding that PSK noise on 506.75kc???
In-Reply-To: <497288C5.1080702@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <JNEOJEBJLOAJOKLICDKHAEJGDAAA.w5jgv@spectrotek.com>

> That is my 3rd macro I saved. I have to sit down and type in
> some more
> stuff on another one. Andy caught when I was live at the keyboard
> sending a whole lot of chatter!!! hi hi... It would be nice
> if I could
> get this modem to run as a beacon rather than having to be at the
> keyboard.

Hey!  It's simple!

Just let the program run on your computer and generate the audio signal,
but record it on the computer at the same time by using a WAV editor or
something similar.

Then use WinAmp or your favorite playback program set in the loop mode
to play it back over and over.  Or, if you want your computer back for
other things, simply burn the recorded WAV file to a CD and play it back
in a cheap CD player set to loop the track.

73,

Ralph   W5JGV - WD2XSH/7


From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 22:58:23 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:58:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
In-Reply-To: <80FE7BF419CF4E05BC8226F9BA8D7F35@DG1R70F1>
Message-ID: <457475.21268.qm@web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

How about just a plain old Un-Modulated carrier ?? thru the 1/2 hour I have noticed some ever so slight shift in freq. sorta back and forth.
Otherwise; I'll guess:  JASON ?? 

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Steve Ratzlaff <steveratz at wildblue.net> wrote:

> From: Steve Ratzlaff <steveratz at wildblue.net>
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 10:37 PM
> Mode 3 was good aural copy the first 20 minutes, even fairly
> strong, then 
> conditions deteriorated the last 10 minutes. Mode 4 now has
> a carrier at 
> poor level; I don't hear any obvious
> variation/modulation to it when 
> switching to 6Hz filter though. But conditions are much
> poorer right now 
> though static isn't increasing any more than before.
> Thanks for the test, 
> even though I have no software for decoding other than
> Argo.
> Steve
> NE Oregon
> R75, 1600' E/W longwire
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Andrews" <w1tag at charter.net>
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European,
> &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" 
> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 7:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
> 
> 
> > 0230-0300 was WOLF 10.
> >
> > John Andrews wrote:
> >> 0200-0230 was 45 Baud RTTY, 170 Hz shift.
> >>
> >> JA
> >>
> >> Steve Ratzlaff wrote:
> >>> Easy aural copy of the carrier here, 0237 utc.
> Can hear occasional
> >>> modulation. Static isn't too bad so far,
> but seems to be building.
> >>> Steve
> >>> NE Oregon
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
> >>> To: "SHMRG at piobaire.mines.ui"
> <SHMRG at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>;
> >>> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 5:49 PM
> >>> Subject: [Lowfer] Name that mode...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Been a while since we've played
> 'name that mode'. Frequency is 508.5 
> >>>> kHz.
> >>>> Will switch on the half
> >>>> hour as follows:
> >>>>
> >>>> 0200 - 0230  mode 1
> >>>> 0230 - 0300  mode 2
> >>>> 0300 - 0330  mode 3
> >>>> 0330 - 0400  mode 4
> >>>>
> >>>> Obviously stations close in will have an
> advantage. Reports are
> >>>> appreciated.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> >>>>
> >>>> p.s. TX is up and running now...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> _______________________________________________
> >>>> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> >>>> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> >>>> To sub/unsub visit:
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> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> >>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database:
> 270.10.8/1899 - Release Date: 
> >>> 1/17/2009 5:50 PM
> >>>
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> >>
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> >> 1/17/2009 5:50 PM
> >>
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 23:04:42 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:04:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon " XR " back on now
Message-ID: <187541.64822.qm@web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com>



Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 17 23:11:40 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:11:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] MODE-4; What was it Jay ?? I want to know for myself
Message-ID: <800595.63942.qm@web63605.mail.re1.yahoo.com>



Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Jan 17 23:19:07 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:19:07 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MODE-4; What was it Jay ?? I want to know for myself
References: <800595.63942.qm@web63605.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c97923$e7c6ee00$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

Thanks to all - may do this again tomorrow night with a few different modes. Tonight's modes were as 
follows:

Mode 1  RTTY 45 baud / 170 Hz shift
Mode 2  WOLF 10
Mode 3  MFSK8
Mode 4  Jason (normal speed)

Now back on 506.5 kHz with cw ID for an hour or so.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr at yahoo.com>
To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:11 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] MODE-4; What was it Jay ?? I want to know for myself


>
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
> Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
> http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>>From the Lowfer mailing list
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From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 09:00:35 2009
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:00:35 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] CV and XR copy
Message-ID: <2f80819e0901180600q6da29e33uac9b1c3f4f6a77a2@mail.gmail.com>

Had weak copy on CV.185.298. and XR.184.322 hr in Maryland this morning
de Lloyd W3NF

From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sun Jan 18 10:43:37 2009
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (J. B. Weazle McCreath)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:43:37 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Web page updated
Message-ID: <000501c97983$8c530ee0$0b01a8c0@weazle>

Hello Lowfers,

I finally took the time to update my web page with the Argo shot
taken by Jerry Sharp out in Colorado.  He made my day with a
new DX record for my beacon "EAR" at over 1200 miles!

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle

will take you there, and you can check out my Tesla coil pix at
the same time.  The big one runs at 3 KVA and if I hooked it
to my Lowfer " T" antenna, I'm sure it would be heard across
the pond!

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle



From cqkg8co at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 18 17:47:59 2009
From: cqkg8co at yahoo.com (Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:47:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] 185.30 Watering Hole Question
Message-ID: <98948.64467.qm@web38502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Haven't had much luck in copying any LOWFER beacons.

At this moment I am using an Eton E1 that has AM, USB and LSB no CW.

If I am supposed to be listening on 185.30, and if I were in USB, I would need to dial the radio in at 184.30.  

Do you agree or disagree?

Another thing that I have noticed over the weeks, is the international long wave stations and their hetrodynes have been quite strong.  Any suggestions on that point?

Brian, KG8CO




      

From cvest at cox.net  Sun Jan 18 17:58:30 2009
From: cvest at cox.net (Charles W5COV)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:58:30 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] CV and XR copy
References: <2f80819e0901180600q6da29e33uac9b1c3f4f6a77a2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <506A31B7D49E4BD9BBD9364C8DD4A900@gateway>

THANKS Lloyd !! This is my best season ever for DX with the beacon .

I really want to thank everyone for their receiving efforts this season . I 
don't think the band is any better and my beacon is pretty much the same one 
, that I have used for the past 4 or 5 years . Bill's new loading coil for 
it , is sure nice and much more convenient to tune than the old setup .

It is the great receiving setup used by everyone . It  has certainly made me 
take a good hard look at my receiving system , and I see many changes coming 
to it in the spring.

THANKS EVERYONE !!

Charlie , W5COV

CV , 185.298 kHz . , QRSS60 , 24 / 7 , EM26ex , OK. 


From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sun Jan 18 19:21:47 2009
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (weazle)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:21:47 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 185.30 Watering Hole Question
Message-ID: <4973c7b2.2e2.163d.194266928@hurontel.on.ca>

From: "Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO" <cqkg8co at yahoo.com>
To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Lowfer] 185.30 Watering Hole Question
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:47:59 -0800 (PST)


>
> If I am supposed to be listening on 185.30, and if I were
> in USB, I would need to dial the radio in at 184.30.
>
> Do you agree or disagree?
>
> Brian, KG8CO
>

Hi Brian, Lowfers,

Leave your receiver in USB all of the time.  If you are
wanting to observe activity around 185.300, set your rx
dial to 185.000 and do the "tuning" with Argo, SpecLab,
or whatever other QRSS viewer you may have.  The scale
on the right side of the Argo display is showing audio
frequencies.  185.300 is an audio frequency of 300 Hz.
above the "carrier" of 185 kHz.  I hope my attempt at
explanation makes sense to you.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 18 19:39:06 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:39:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] CV and XR copy
In-Reply-To: <2f80819e0901180600q6da29e33uac9b1c3f4f6a77a2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <571702.95477.qm@web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

It's always great to get a reception report. TNX to Lloyd for
catching " XR " and the capture. 73 to all, and enjoy LOWfer-ing

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Sun, 1/18/09, lloyd chastant <lloydc6 at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: lloyd chastant <lloydc6 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Lowfer] CV and XR copy
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &, UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 9:00 AM
> Had weak copy on CV.185.298. and XR.184.322 hr in Maryland
> this morning
> de Lloyd W3NF
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> To sub/unsub visit:
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer


      

From cqkg8co at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 18 19:50:51 2009
From: cqkg8co at yahoo.com (Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:50:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Watering Hole Question II
Message-ID: <873675.67044.qm@web38506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks for the replies ..... and at the point the radio is set ...

My next question is about Argo ....  I want to make sure that it is listening in the right spot.

Under the Argo set up tab .... it asks for 3 items ....

1.  Measured Freq

2.  Displayed Freq

3.  Off Set


What should go in each of the areas?

I have been all over the internet and just cannot find a site that can answer the questions of the basic operations of Argo.



Brian


      

From cvest at cox.net  Sun Jan 18 20:33:55 2009
From: cvest at cox.net (Charles W5COV)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:33:55 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Watering Hole Question II
References: <873675.67044.qm@web38506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <84D92F48DED24820808A6E62D8D5173D@gateway>

John A. , has an excellent article on ARGO calibration on his web site , 
www.w1tag.com

http://www.w1tag.com/articles.htm

Charlie , W5COV 


From stanw1le at verizon.net  Sun Jan 18 20:58:03 2009
From: stanw1le at verizon.net (Stan W1LE)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:58:03 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ARGO and Windows Vista
In-Reply-To: <571702.95477.qm@web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <571702.95477.qm@web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4973DE2B.60708@verizon.net>

Hello The Net:

I am trying to get ARGO to run under Windows Vista, home premium, 32 bit 
and having difficulty.

I am using a Intel motherboard, DQ35JO with the latest Intel audio 
drivers for the motherboard audio.

After starting ARGO I get an error saying that the audio is not found.

I have tried starting as administrator and with compatibility set to 
windows XP.

But no luck.

Anyone have any suggestions on how to troubleshoot this problem with Vista ?

Windows 7 (beta) has the same problem, but I know that windows 7 audio 
drivers are not available yet.

Stan, W1LE   Cape Cod,   FN41sr

From we0h at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 18 22:10:45 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:10:45 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] ARGO and Windows Vista
In-Reply-To: <4973DE2B.60708@verizon.net>
References: <571702.95477.qm@web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<4973DE2B.60708@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4973EF35.1010406@yahoo.com>

ARGO runs perfect within WINE 1.1.13 in Xubuntu 8.10.
No Winblow's issues...hi hi...

Mike
WE0H
/16



Stan W1LE wrote:
> Hello The Net:
>
> I am trying to get ARGO to run under Windows Vista, home premium, 32 bit 
> and having difficulty.
>
> I am using a Intel motherboard, DQ35JO with the latest Intel audio 
> drivers for the motherboard audio.
>
> After starting ARGO I get an error saying that the audio is not found.
>
> I have tried starting as administrator and with compatibility set to 
> windows XP.
>
> But no luck.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions on how to troubleshoot this problem with Vista ?
>
> Windows 7 (beta) has the same problem, but I know that windows 7 audio 
> drivers are not available yet.
>
> Stan, W1LE   Cape Cod,   FN41sr

From pbarick at niu.edu  Sun Jan 18 23:30:25 2009
From: pbarick at niu.edu (Peter Barick)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:30:25 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Watering Hole Question II
Message-ID: <4973AD81020000C80005F0AD@wpo.cso.niu.edu>

Brian, Charlie...

Yes, John has a calibration article for the R75 receiver, for checking/setting the rx oscilator freq to correspond with a given sound card as displayed on Agro, to "calibrate" the display. That's my take. However John says, " requiring only that you know how to adjust the frequency of the master oscillator in your receiver." That maybe beyong a casual setup that I believe Brian was looking for.

Years back, I suggested LWCA provide for this sort of basic setup info for this popular QRSS  program. Back then I couldn't find such starter info either. Someone on the List with the same rx gave me needed help and I believe it was directed to our receivers.

Brian, I'm apprehensive to say what works for me as we use different rxs. However, in general, one should know the freq of the BFO. With the rx in USB tune low by that BFO freq, the rx offset. Then with Argo up and started (the Start button) and proper connection between rx to pc sound card In and rx tuned as above, you should see the signal level bar on Argo's L side react to signals/noise. That's a good sign. Forget about those Argo offset dropdown boxes for now. Open the menu item for mode, select 20-sec. This should give a fast screen with which to quickly see something moving across the screen. May wish to adj. the rx tuning for desired "listening." I'm saying this from memory. Not at my station pc now.

The biggest hill to climb is seeing the first signal troll across the tube. Then other features can be explained if that help needed.

Ha, this is what werks here. Others may wish to comment.

--Peter
 ------------------------------------------------------------

>>> "Charles W5COV" <cvest at cox.net> 01/18/09 7:34 PM >>>
John A. , has an excellent article on ARGO calibration on his web site , 
www.w1tag.com

http://www.w1tag.com/articles.htm
Charlie , W5COV 


From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 18 23:37:25 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:37:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] ARGO and Windows Vista
In-Reply-To: <4973EF35.1010406@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <641304.74833.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hey Stan:

This is only a guess; I beleive that ARGO will only work in a
16 bit sampling rate, AGN, only a guess, I don't know for sure.
Someone else might be able to tell us for sure.

73, and hope you find a solution; -- UUhhhh,, just an after thought,
If you have a soundcard that is 16 bit for WIN-XP try installing
it, and disable the on-board sound. Most WIN-XP drivers will work
in Vista. Just takin a shot in the dark here.

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


> 
> Stan W1LE wrote:
> > Hello The Net:
> >
> > I am trying to get ARGO to run under Windows Vista,
> home premium, 32 bit and having difficulty.
> >
> > I am using a Intel motherboard, DQ35JO with the latest
> Intel audio drivers for the motherboard audio.
> >
> > After starting ARGO I get an error saying that the
> audio is not found.
> >
> > I have tried starting as administrator and with
> compatibility set to windows XP.
> >
> > But no luck.
> >
> > Anyone have any suggestions on how to troubleshoot
> this problem with Vista ?
> >
> > Windows 7 (beta) has the same problem, but I know that
> windows 7 audio drivers are not available yet.
> >
> > Stan, W1LE   Cape Cod,   FN41sr



      

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 18 23:46:13 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:46:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Recent captures of " XR "
Message-ID: <898578.87985.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hi Everyone:

My TNX to Peter in IL., and to Lloyd in MD. for their ARGO captures
of " XR ". I have edited them and uploaded them to the Reception
folder on My Space for anyone who wishes to view them.

Many many TNX to all you fellows who monitor for the signals. You
make it worth having the beacons on.

73, and good LOWfer-ing

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      

From cvest at cox.net  Mon Jan 19 00:06:40 2009
From: cvest at cox.net (Charles W5COV)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:06:40 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Watering Hole Question II
References: <4973AD81020000C80005F0AD@wpo.cso.niu.edu>
Message-ID: <96B9D72E0C4F42B4AEA0783DBED04CA6@gateway>

Peter ,

   You are of course correct . However the article does give a good 
explanation of ARGO and the calibration for a sound card . I have used the 
procedure for whatever receiver I am using at the time . I do have an R-75 , 
so it was most useful for it .

   I am not at all familiar with the receiver that Brian mentions .

   I haven't looked up his location to see who is close to him . If he can 
find someone that is running a GPS disciplined transmitter , that he can 
hear , then he can do his calibration in reverse from that .

   You have a great deal of experience with ARGO , so I will defer to you on 
your suggestions , as you are better qualified than I am to make really 
specific observations about it . I switch between ARGO and Spectrum Lab .

   There is also a Readme file on the ARGO home page , that might be of 
interest to Brian .

http://digilander.libero.it/i2phd/argo/index.html

Charlie , W5COV 


From we0h at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 19 01:18:27 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:18:27 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 600 meter PSK-31 QSO for an hour tonight!!!
Message-ID: <49741B33.6090406@yahoo.com>

Talk about a fun mode. Mike /12 & I had a chat for a solid hour on 
PSK-31 on 600m tonight. Nearly perfect copy even when the signals 
couldn't be heard. He was running his K-2 & transverter with the 
computer/software, I was running my TS-930 & transverter with a NUE-PSK 
modem, no computer needed. Couldn't be anymore fun than that. Hope to 
get some more guys on this mode. Sure can talk about tons of stuff and 
not really worry about the fading. CW is fun but the fading on 600 
meters kills a QSO in a hurry unless you run crazy high power!!! hi 
hi...Mike /12 ran 75w into a quarterwave inverted L & I run 90w into a 
70' inverted L. Definitely not high power but it sure worked well.

Mike
WE0H
WD2XSH/16

http://www.nue-psk.com/

From cqkg8co at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 19 09:10:13 2009
From: cqkg8co at yahoo.com (Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:10:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] First Lowfer Catch
Message-ID: <527209.15357.qm@web38501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I would like to thank everyone for the LOWFER help last night.  When I checked the computer this morning, I see that "MP" had scrolled across the screen.  I didn't use Argo, but did use Spectran last night.  I will work with the Argo today.

MP scrolled across the screen last night at about 10:30 PM EST at 185.300 +/-.  Infact, it started at 185.299 and ended at 185.301.  My radio may be drifting.



Brian, KG8CO


      


      

From pbarick at niu.edu  Mon Jan 19 11:14:04 2009
From: pbarick at niu.edu (Peter Barick)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:14:04 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 600 meter PSK-31 QSO for an hour tonight!!!
Message-ID: <4974526C020000C80005F0F0@wpo.cso.niu.edu>

Mike - Neat-O!

Gee are you the first kid on the block with this new toy, NUE-PSK?

Can you tell a bit about how it's going, work other bands in PSK, ect?

Did you do the full kit (v macho w/ SMTs) or get one of the pre-fab'd ones?

I found the AmQRP site and others may want to take a look. :-))))
http://www.nue-psk.com/ordering.html

Peter

>>> Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com> 01/19/09 12:19 AM >>>
Talk about a fun mode. Mike /12 & I had a chat for a solid hour on 
PSK-31 on 600m tonight. Nearly perfect copy even when the signals 
couldn't be heard. He was running his K-2 & transverter with the 
computer/software, I was running my TS-930 & transverter with a NUE-PSK 
modem, no computer needed. Couldn't be anymore fun than that. Hope to 
<...>

From pbarick at niu.edu  Mon Jan 19 11:26:46 2009
From: pbarick at niu.edu (Peter Barick)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:26:46 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Watering Hole Question II
Message-ID: <49745566020000C80005F0FA@wpo.cso.niu.edu>

Charlie,

Yes, a lot of open ends on this matter. Great on finding Ralph's piece on the Argo home site. I recall Ralph doing the piece for the HP SLM but not the Argo info. I'll print that one out for the software file here.

It is also hard to give advice not knowing the the intended listener's current understandings and intended equipment. That's where Ralph's piece shines, taking one through various receivers and their lack of merits for weak signal work.

However, the recent post of Brian indicates some success in finding the MP beacon. So now "he's hit a run and on base."
--Peter
----------------------------------
>>> "Charles W5COV" <cvest at cox.net> 01/18/09 11:07 PM >>>
Peter ,

   You are of course correct . However the article does give a good 
explanation of ARGO and the calibration for a sound card . I have used the 
procedure for whatever receiver I am using at the time . I do have an R-75 , 
so it was most useful for it .

   I am not at all familiar with the receiver that Brian mentions .
<...>

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 19 11:43:07 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:43:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] First Lowfer Catch
In-Reply-To: <527209.15357.qm@web38501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <980650.56045.qm@web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Congrats Brian:

You've got your toe in the water now, the waters warm !! Jump on in !!
73, and have fun:


Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Mon, 1/19/09, Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO <cqkg8co at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO <cqkg8co at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Lowfer] First Lowfer Catch
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 9:10 AM
> I would like to thank everyone for the LOWFER help last
> night.  When I checked the computer this morning, I see that
> "MP" had scrolled across the screen.  I didn't
> use Argo, but did use Spectran last night.  I will work with
> the Argo today.
> 
> MP scrolled across the screen last night at about 10:30 PM
> EST at 185.300 +/-.  Infact, it started at 185.299 and ended
> at 185.301.  My radio may be drifting.
> 
> 
> 
> Brian, KG8CO
> 
> 
>       
> 
> 
>       
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> To sub/unsub visit:
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer


      

From we0h at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 19 11:58:58 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:58:58 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 600 meter PSK-31 QSO for an hour tonight!!!
In-Reply-To: <4974526C020000C80005F0F0@wpo.cso.niu.edu>
References: <4974526C020000C80005F0F0@wpo.cso.niu.edu>
Message-ID: <4974B152.7060204@yahoo.com>

Hi Peter,

I received it built from the factory. It will work with any voice rig on 
any band, Lowfer, Experimental, Amateur, Pirate, hacker, etc...hi 
hi...Some users have used them on 145mc FM. Haven't heard of anyone 
using them on AM but it certainly would work. It modulates the 
transmitter with the proper audio tones and runs the PTT line. Then on 
receive, it listens to the receiver's audio and decodes on a multi line 
LCD screen which is so easy to read. It can run on 2x 9v battery's or a 
14v power supply (walwart). It was originally intended for the portable 
QRP HF crowd but has since gotten popular with the VHF/UHF FM crowd and 
now I am introducing it to the 600 meter Experimental band. What it does 
is takes the computer away from the setup to run PSK-31 and other 
digital modes. All you need is the rig and this modem. A regular PS-2 
keyboard plugs into the modem for controlling it and typing in what you 
want to say...hi hi...The modem can be powered by the radio if the radio 
has a data port with 14v output.

Today I am to receive new software for it to allow beacon operations. 
That will be neat as I can then run a PSK-31 beacon while I do other 
things around the house. Future software will have RTTY, CW and some 
other modes. Fun stuff!!!

Mike
WE0H



Peter Barick wrote:
> Mike - Neat-O!
>
> Gee are you the first kid on the block with this new toy, NUE-PSK?
>
> Can you tell a bit about how it's going, work other bands in PSK, ect?
>
> Did you do the full kit (v macho w/ SMTs) or get one of the pre-fab'd ones?
>
> I found the AmQRP site and others may want to take a look. :-))))
> http://www.nue-psk.com/ordering.html
>
> Peter

From cvest at cox.net  Mon Jan 19 12:53:50 2009
From: cvest at cox.net (Charles W5COV)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:53:50 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] First Lowfer Catch
References: <527209.15357.qm@web38501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0B76EC8F63DF478B85398F060DAF551D@gateway>

Congratulations Brian !! It is that first one that is the tough one . You 
will find some more now I am sure .

Charlie , W5COV 


From stanw1le at verizon.net  Mon Jan 19 12:59:01 2009
From: stanw1le at verizon.net (Stan W1LE)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:59:01 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ARGO and Windows Vista
In-Reply-To: <4973EF35.1010406@yahoo.com>
References: <571702.95477.qm@web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<4973DE2B.60708@verizon.net> <4973EF35.1010406@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4974BF65.6060500@verizon.net>

Hello Mike,

I have the Ubuntu DVDs downloaded and await a dedicated hard drive to 
implement.

Thanks   Stan


Mike-WE0H wrote:
> ARGO runs perfect within WINE 1.1.13 in Xubuntu 8.10.
> No Winblow's issues...hi hi...
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
>
>
>
> Stan W1LE wrote:
>   
>> Hello The Net:
>>
>> I am trying to get ARGO to run under Windows Vista, home premium, 32 bit 
>> and having difficulty.
>>
>> I am using a Intel motherboard, DQ35JO with the latest Intel audio 
>> drivers for the motherboard audio.
>>
>> After starting ARGO I get an error saying that the audio is not found.
>>
>> I have tried starting as administrator and with compatibility set to 
>> windows XP.
>>
>> But no luck.
>>
>> Anyone have any suggestions on how to troubleshoot this problem with Vista ?
>>
>> Windows 7 (beta) has the same problem, but I know that windows 7 audio 
>> drivers are not available yet.
>>
>> Stan, W1LE   Cape Cod,   FN41sr
>>     
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>
>   


From pbarick at niu.edu  Mon Jan 19 15:37:14 2009
From: pbarick at niu.edu (Peter Barick)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:37:14 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 600 meter PSK-31 QSO for an hour tonight!!!
Message-ID: <4974901A020000C80005F13E@wpo.cso.niu.edu>

Mike, others too,
Gee, why am I being a kid in a candy store on Mike's new PSK lashup? Heh heh But that Nue-PSK is neat.

On the home page, which is a gem to see and breeze thru, one of the shots shows one Nue scientist at a bench shared with a FT-817, Yeazu's new pocket DC-to-dawn all-mode. Yeeks all the freatures packed in a carry-along, digital modes too, one can guess it's not a "do it yerself rig to change the light bulbs in." So it's likely it's there to show compatability and interface with that of the Nue-PSk's reader and keyboard facility. (Ya, that's a mouthful.)

Lastly, also new for me, the FT-817 has a beacon mode. This is a Blackberry sized item. Wonder if it does wireless internet ;=)

Mike, Santa Was gud to you. My my
--Peter

----------------------------------
>>> Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com> 01/19/09 10:59 AM >>>
Hi Peter,

I received it built from the factory. It will work with any voice rig on 
any band, Lowfer, Experimental, Amateur, Pirate, hacker, etc...hi 
hi...Some users have used them on 145mc FM. Haven't heard of anyone 
using them on AM but it certainly would work. It modulates the 
transmitter with the proper audio tones and runs the PTT line. Then on 
<...>


From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Mon Jan 19 15:46:37 2009
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:46:37 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] First Lowfer Catch
In-Reply-To: <527209.15357.qm@web38501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <527209.15357.qm@web38501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP52EDA560A167A7E7CC2277E9D30@phx.gbl>


> I would like to thank everyone for the LOWFER help last night.
>
> MP scrolled across the screen last night at about 10:30 PM EST at  
> 185.300 +/-.  Infact, it started at 185.299 and ended at 185.301.   
> My radio may be drifting.

Thanks for the report Brian - you're on your way !
I'm  midway between Detroit and Buffalo, NY...... or about 90 miles from
you. You should get a nice clear signal most of the day and night.
And that will allow you to make changes with the features of ARGO and
Spectran and see what works best.  Change antenna, etc.
Good luck

by the way - see http://www.w3eee.com
and "live lowfers" and you can usually see some trace of me and  
whether I
am on - and also a good check on the frequency.

73

Mitch   MP 185301



From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 20 00:48:27 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:48:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Capture of " XR " from W4JBM on My Space
Message-ID: <51880.78653.qm@web63604.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hey Everyone:

I tried my hand at a little photo splicing to get the 
whole call in one shot. Took me awhile to figure out 
how to do that. The W4JBM capture will be the last on 
in the reception reports album.  73 to all::

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      

From steveratz at wildblue.net  Tue Jan 20 03:28:23 2009
From: steveratz at wildblue.net (Steve Ratzlaff)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:28:23 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer WEB format?
Message-ID: <3D320214FBE644EFB59A9601561948B4@DG1R70F1>

After trying to copy lowfer CV tonight, with perhaps a little success (I was 
seeing something on his frequency), I switched to lowfer WEB. Lacking info, 
I found some info on the LWCA site, frequency 189,950 Hz, sending QRSS30 on 
CST odd hours, CW on CST even hours. I picked what I thought was an odd hour 
(also corresponding, I think, to UTC odd hour, 07-08utc) and monitored it. I 
received something on that frequency, consisting of two parallel lines 
separated by 0.2 Hz, with the upper line on the listed frequency, and 
nothing I could make out for obvious modulation or an ident.
Anybody know if WEB is currently on this frequency, and what the format is?
I can send a 125kb capture to anyone who'd like to examine it.
The signal level went down after about 0755 utc, but I'm still seeing 
something on the listed frequency now, and traces of the second line 0.2 Hz 
lower.
(This would be the first time to receive WEB, if what I'm seeing is actually 
WEB.)
Steve
NE Oregon 


From gerfmon at mesanetworks.net  Tue Jan 20 14:16:56 2009
From: gerfmon at mesanetworks.net (Jerry Sharp)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:16:56 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer WEB format?
In-Reply-To: <3D320214FBE644EFB59A9601561948B4@DG1R70F1>
References: <3D320214FBE644EFB59A9601561948B4@DG1R70F1>
Message-ID: <49762328.7000604@mesanetworks.net>

Steve, a few weeks ago WEB was having some keying problems. His 
transmitter was mostly sending a steady carrier, once in awhile breaking 
into an ID or partial ID. Last time I looked for WEB was about a week 
ago and I saw an unstable signal with what might have been CW characters 
running together. It was on his frequency, but it may have only been noise.

I'll look again tonight.

Jerry Sharp, KD0GS
Longmont, CO
DN70ke


Steve Ratzlaff wrote:
> After trying to copy lowfer CV tonight, with perhaps a little success (I was 
> seeing something on his frequency), I switched to lowfer WEB. Lacking info, 
> I found some info on the LWCA site, frequency 189,950 Hz, sending QRSS30 on 
> CST odd hours, CW on CST even hours. I picked what I thought was an odd hour 
> (also corresponding, I think, to UTC odd hour, 07-08utc) and monitored it. I 
> received something on that frequency, consisting of two parallel lines 
> separated by 0.2 Hz, with the upper line on the listed frequency, and 
> nothing I could make out for obvious modulation or an ident.
> Anybody know if WEB is currently on this frequency, and what the format is?
> I can send a 125kb capture to anyone who'd like to examine it.
> The signal level went down after about 0755 utc, but I'm still seeing 
> something on the listed frequency now, and traces of the second line 0.2 Hz 
> lower.
> (This would be the first time to receive WEB, if what I'm seeing is actually 
> WEB.)
> Steve
> NE Oregon 
> 
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From w1tag at charter.net  Tue Jan 20 13:54:17 2009
From: w1tag at charter.net (w1tag at charter.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:54:17 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Celestial Argo
Message-ID: <20090120135417.VZD3H.3406297.root@mp17>

Take a look at the spaceweather.com site today -- cute article about halfway down the page.

John Andrews, W1TAG

From steveratz at wildblue.net  Wed Jan 21 02:21:45 2009
From: steveratz at wildblue.net (Steve Ratzlaff)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:21:45 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer MP doing well
Message-ID: <6252425B71C4437F90F0239231A4783D@DG1R70F1>

At 0635 utc, lowfer MP began showing on the screen, good level. Lowfer CV 
had a "C" appear, poor level, and bits of the "V", several minutes later. I 
don't know if UWL is on the air, but I just moved CV down a little on the 
screen to make room, if UWL appears.
Steve
NE Oregon 


From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Wed Jan 21 06:19:43 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:19:43 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XR in CT
Message-ID: <000901c97bba$28ac8c20$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

Nice signal last night. Cool squiggle in the letter R dash. 

http://www.w1vd.com/capture/XR012109.jpg

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

From pbarick at niu.edu  Wed Jan 21 09:22:26 2009
From: pbarick at niu.edu (Peter Barick)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:22:26 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] XR in CT
Message-ID: <4976DB42020000C80005F45D@wpo.cso.niu.edu>

Indeed, Jay, that is a good showing of XR. Wonder how that "squiggle" came to be. In that vane, EAR also had a distinctive lilt to it for, what, years? Sort of tending towards Hellschriber, huh?

Other Thought: Daily I scan the Kansas grabber and that of W3EEE where a slight trace 1Hz above MP has been a constant. Can someone explain what it represents?

--Peter
--------------------------------------
>>> <jrusgrove at comcast.net> 01/21/09 5:20 AM >>>
Nice signal last night. Cool squiggle in the letter R dash. 

http://www.w1vd.com/capture/XR012109.jpg

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 21 16:24:14 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:24:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] XR in CT - Squiggley " R "
In-Reply-To: <000901c97bba$28ac8c20$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <738866.3808.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hello Jay, Peter, And fellow LOWfers:

That's probably the best capture you have gotten of " XR " 
so far Jay. I'll work on getting that one edited, and uploaded.
To re-iterate a previous comment I made; I always Re-Tweak " XR "
everynight before I go to bed, and last night I did that sometime
before midnight EST. I want to guess around 11: 30 or so. I have
listened to my signal while tuning the variometer, and I can hear 
when it generates harmonics, and gets " off resonance ", the tone
gets very ragged sounding. I have also notice a slight freq. bump
when tuning it off resonance. IF !! I were to guess; I'll bet you
caught me when I was peaking the variometer.

Thanks for the new capture, it's much appreciated. 73::

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Wed, 1/21/09, jrusgrove at comcast.net <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> From: jrusgrove at comcast.net <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Lowfer] XR in CT
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 6:19 AM
> Nice signal last night. Cool squiggle in the letter R dash. 
> 
> http://www.w1vd.com/capture/XR012109.jpg
> 
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 21 16:34:10 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:34:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon " XR " QSL cards
Message-ID: <353958.30415.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hey Everyone:

Hope you're having fun this season. I just received a batch of
QSL cards for " XR ". I haven't ordered QSL cards in 20 years,
I guess that shows how exciting this LOWfer stuff is to me.
Like Paul - WMS tells me: " It's the most fun you can have in
radio and still keep you clothes on !! " hi hi . I will be 
sending a card out shortly to everyone who has sent me a report,
I have kept them on file since I fired " XR " up. I'll be using
address'es from QRZ, so If you have sent me a report, and your
QRZ address is not correct; will you email me so I don't send
it to the wrong address. Thanks and Good LOWfer-ing; 73 ::

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Wed Jan 21 17:00:55 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:00:55 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XR in CT - Squiggley " R "
References: <738866.3808.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002001c97c13$bbecf020$6c01a8c0@DELL4>

Andy

Ahhh...caught in the act...

Jay


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr at yahoo.com>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European,& UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XR in CT - Squiggley " R "


> Hello Jay, Peter, And fellow LOWfers:
>
> That's probably the best capture you have gotten of " XR "
> so far Jay. I'll work on getting that one edited, and uploaded.
> To re-iterate a previous comment I made; I always Re-Tweak " XR "
> everynight before I go to bed, and last night I did that sometime
> before midnight EST. I want to guess around 11: 30 or so. I have
> listened to my signal while tuning the variometer, and I can hear
> when it generates harmonics, and gets " off resonance ", the tone
> gets very ragged sounding. I have also notice a slight freq. bump
> when tuning it off resonance. IF !! I were to guess; I'll bet you
> caught me when I was peaking the variometer.
>
> Thanks for the new capture, it's much appreciated. 73::
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
> Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
> http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr
>
>
> --- On Wed, 1/21/09, jrusgrove at comcast.net <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> From: jrusgrove at comcast.net <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
>> Subject: [Lowfer] XR in CT
>> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>> Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 6:19 AM
>> Nice signal last night. Cool squiggle in the letter R dash.
>>
>> http://www.w1vd.com/capture/XR012109.jpg
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
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>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
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>
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From w9nu at msn.com  Wed Jan 21 17:53:41 2009
From: w9nu at msn.com (Neil Dodson)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:53:41 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG copied Jan 20 and 21
Message-ID: <BAY109-DS118FA74C39377B72E1F0F90D10@phx.gbl>

Hi John (W1TAG) et all,

After a careful CAL with a GPS source, I copied TAG 2 nights
in a row for only one period each.  The offset frequencies looked
to be exactly the same each night,  I think that means we are both
very stable or are just drifting in sync. 

Neil W9NU in Elkhart, IN   EN71as  copied TAG on WOLF 10 at 184.800 KHz.
10' shielded loop into a IC706MIIG

Here are the two nights captures showing drifting in sync.

JAN 20, 2009:

t:2208 f:-0.303 pm:13.60 jm:217 q: -1.8 -5.8 0*8XEKM8REDN2WI -
t:2304 f:-0.283 pm:13.81 jm:217 q: -0.0 -5.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2400 f:-0.283 pm:15.68 jm:217 q:  0.4 -4.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2496 f:-0.283 pm:16.54 jm:217 q:  0.5 -3.9 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2592 f:-0.283 pm:16.62 jm:217 q:  0.6 -3.8 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2688 f:-0.283 pm:17.10 jm:217 q:  0.9 -3.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2784 f:-0.283 pm:17.51 jm:217 q:  1.0 -3.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2880 f:-0.283 pm:18.51 jm:217 q:  1.1 -3.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2976 f:-0.283 pm:18.67 jm:217 q:  1.2 -3.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:3072 f:-0.283 pm:18.78 jm:217 q:  1.3 -3.8 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:3168 f:-0.283 pm:19.10 jm:217 q:  1.5 -3.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
2009-01-20 06:41:33 >WOLF10  -r 44100.780 -f 999.600 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000

Jan 21 2009:

t:1536 f:-0.283 pm:9.643 jm:336 q: -2.3 -7.5 DFLHNRCEDKTGSXR ?
t:1632 f:-0.283 pm:11.73 jm:336 q: -1.8 -7.1 TAG RA0I91GLNZT ?
t:1728 f:-0.283 pm:12.85 jm:336 q: -1.4 -5.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1824 f:-0.283 pm:13.35 jm:336 q: -1.2 -5.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1920 f:-0.283 pm:13.44 jm:336 q: -0.9 -4.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2016 f:-0.283 pm:13.56 jm:336 q: -0.6 -4.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2112 f:-0.283 pm:14.19 jm:336 q: -0.3 -4.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2208 f:-0.283 pm:14.26 jm:336 q: -0.3 -4.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2304 f:-0.283 pm:14.39 jm:336 q: -0.2 -4.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2400 f:-0.283 pm:14.43 jm:336 q: -0.3 -4.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2496 f:-0.283 pm:14.54 jm:336 q: -0.2 -4.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2592 f:-0.283 pm:14.91 jm:336 q: -0.1 -4.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2688 f:-0.283 pm:15.04 jm:336 q: -0.1 -4.8 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2784 f:-0.283 pm:15.20 jm:336 q:  0.1 -4.9 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2880 f:-0.283 pm:15.54 jm:336 q:  0.2 -4.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:2976 f:-0.283 pm:15.57 jm:336 q:  0.3 -4.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:3072 f:-0.283 pm:15.77 jm:336 q:  0.5 -4.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:3168 f:-0.283 pm:15.96 jm:336 q:  0.8 -4.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
2009-01-21 06:06:11 >WOLF10  -r 44100.780 -f 999.600 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f:-0.520 a: 0.0 dp: 75.4 ci: 9 cj:152 J17X/AMY3N490B* ?

This is my first year of having good enough antennas and advise to
allow me to do serious listening on the Lowfer band and it has been
fun.  Thanks to all those who willingly offer information and schematics
for the rest of us to get on a little easier.

Neil Dodson  W9NU  Elkhart IN

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From L.Howell at conocophillips.com  Wed Jan 21 18:40:15 2009
From: L.Howell at conocophillips.com (Howell, Laurence (Shanghai/Singapore))
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:40:15 +0800
Subject: [Lowfer] The case for DSB or antennae diversity on 500Khz :-)
Message-ID: <C523CA6BB607334C90114231C4D477040162DE@tguexmb1.conoco.net>


I suppose Ive been around 500kHz for most of my working life but it
wasn't till the advent of SDR/Panoramic that the true nature of the
beast has become apparent to me. They really do show graphically for the
eyes pleasure what the hecks going on.

As an example Ive been doing commercial calibration of NDB's
onshore/offshore here in the Bohai Bay area for a while (OM89) and most
of the targets are just within ground/sea wave range at around 80-100NM
- the far limit of what can be classed as usable in my environment here
dependant on night/day

At night, at this range, we get a mix of both sky and ground with signal
levels of say around -60dBm - watching the beacons, which in my case are
DSB (per se)  with a 400Hz modulating tone its intriguing to look at the
amplitude of the carrier and the sidebands and how you can see one
modulating sideband completely being phased out (>50dBc) whist the other
or carrier remains whole. The Periodicity varies as the dynamics of the
iono change - 

So if I had been looking for that sideband modulated signal at that
instance on a single band radio there was more chance at this range that
I may have missed it......

Laurence
http://kl1x.com



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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Wed Jan 21 19:46:43 2009
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:46:43 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer MP doing well
In-Reply-To: <6252425B71C4437F90F0239231A4783D@DG1R70F1>
References: <6252425B71C4437F90F0239231A4783D@DG1R70F1>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP608193F6220886EBC9A3DCE9CE0@phx.gbl>


> At 0635 utc, lowfer MP began showing on the screen, good level.

What a great report Steve - a record for me - many, many thanks.  
Temperature
running -18F and -18C and a clear, cold night - maybe it helps.

73

Mitch
> Steve
> NE Oregon
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From k5wms at aristotle.net  Wed Jan 21 18:51:55 2009
From: k5wms at aristotle.net (PAUL DAULTON)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:51:55 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer MP doing well
Message-ID: <20090122005250.31BA1373817C@mailman.qth.net>

Mitch just think of how far out you may be getting if only there was
 someone there to 
capture it.
Paul k5wms
-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>
Sent: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:46:43 -0500
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer \(US, European, &UK\) and MedFer bands"
 <lowfer at mailman.qth.net> 
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Lowfer MP doing well
 
 
 
> At 0635 utc, lowfer MP began showing on the screen, good level.  
 
What a great report Steve - a record for me - many, many thanks.  
Temperature  
running -18F and -18C and a clear, cold night - maybe it helps.  
 
73  
 
Mitch  
> Steve  
> NE Oregon  
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 22:09:36 2009
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:09:36 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WEB beacon
Message-ID: <4977E370.6070905@sbcglobal.net>

A note received 1/19/09 from Bill but as far as I know not placed on 
this list is as follows:
 
 >I got out to WEB antenna this morning & found it was dead!  The 
problem was that I have a 500 foot 12 volt power >cable from the shop to 
the antenna and it was dug in under a gravel driveway. A heavy truch 
must have crushed the >cable.  The result was a short that burned out 
the power supply I had in the shop. I will get it fixed by next Sunday.
 >Bill

73,
Garry, K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Wed Jan 21 22:52:12 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:52:12 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WEB beacon
References: <4977E370.6070905@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <000d01c97c44$cf1bb650$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

Garry

Thanks for the update. 

Jay




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garry and Linda Hess" <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>
To: "lowfer mailing list" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WEB beacon


>A note received 1/19/09 from Bill but as far as I know not placed on 
> this list is as follows:
> 
> >I got out to WEB antenna this morning & found it was dead!  The 
> problem was that I have a 500 foot 12 volt power >cable from the shop to 
> the antenna and it was dug in under a gravel driveway. A heavy truch 
> must have crushed the >cable.  The result was a short that burned out 
> the power supply I had in the shop. I will get it fixed by next Sunday.
> >Bill
> 
> 73,
> Garry, K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL
> _______________________________________________
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From w1tag at charter.net  Thu Jan 22 07:09:22 2009
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:09:22 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG copied Jan 20 and 21
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DS118FA74C39377B72E1F0F90D10@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY109-DS118FA74C39377B72E1F0F90D10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <497861F2.4030402@charter.net>

Neil,

Nice reports! TAG's frequency is based on a 10 MHz surplus Vectron 
oscillator module that has a proportional oven. Picked it up for $50 at 
a flea market a few years ago. Since the TAG exciter is in an unheated 
building, that oven control is a big help. My setup at home isn't too 
well calibrated right now, but TAG seems to be staying within 0.02 Hz of 
185.000 kHz. I get some temperature swings in the cellar at home this 
time of year, and the Icom R75 that monitors TAG does wander a bit.

Anyway, thanks for the reports.

John Andrews, W1TAG

Neil Dodson wrote:
> Hi John (W1TAG) et all,
>  
> After a careful CAL with a GPS source, I copied TAG 2 nights
> in a row for only one period each.  The offset frequencies looked
> to be exactly the same each night,  I think that means we are both
> very stable or are just drifting in sync.

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Thu Jan 22 07:31:37 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:31:37 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WMS in CT
Message-ID: <001101c97c8d$5e90ca30$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

First night camped out on WMS frequency.

A number of 'frags' overnight with improved reception around sunrise. Switched to QRSS60 just after 
this capture but ran out of darkness. Will try for a brighter, cleaner ID for your scrapbook but the 
evidence so far is all but iron clad. I note your frequency to be 2 Hz below advertised at 187490 
and it does wander around maybe 0.2 Hz. Hopefully the 'squirgles' will remain clear of your 
frequency.

Rough calculation is 1234 miles. Nice going!

http://www.w1vd.com/capture/WMS012209.jpg

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 


From k5wms at aristotle.net  Thu Jan 22 09:59:15 2009
From: k5wms at aristotle.net (PAUL DAULTON)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:59:15 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WMS in CT
Message-ID: <20090122160121.857BC373821B@mailman.qth.net>

Jay thats the record so far. I list my speed as qrss 30 out of habit but
 it is closer to qrss 60.
I am using K1EL chip at .02 wpm. Steves newer chips offer .04 wpm. I have
 thought of installing
one of the newer chips and shortening to a two letter id . Dex and Roger
 have had problem getting
full Id due to the length of my ID with qsb. Dex has pictures of my setup
 on http://www.w4dex.com/gallery/WMS
I wonder what you are using for rec and antenna.
>From the reports I have seen propagaion is long. WEB has been down a few
 days. I dont see CV and UWL. I am about
254 from CV and about 330 from UWL. My guess  is we are too close.
Thanks for spending the time looking for me. Before sundown I'll tweak it
 up.
73 Paul Daulton k5wms
-----Original Message-----
From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
Sent: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:31:37 -0500
To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net> 
Subject: [Lowfer] WMS in CT
 
 
First night camped out on WMS frequency.  
 
A number of 'frags' overnight with improved reception around sunrise.
 Switched to QRSS60 just after  
this capture but ran out of darkness. Will try for a brighter, cleaner ID
 for your scrapbook but the  
evidence so far is all but iron clad. I note your frequency to be 2 Hz
 below advertised at 187490  
and it does wander around maybe 0.2 Hz. Hopefully the 'squirgles' will
 remain clear of your  
frequency.  
 
Rough calculation is 1234 miles. Nice going!  
 
http://www.w1vd.com/capture/WMS012209.jpg  
 
Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2  
 
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From pbarick at niu.edu  Thu Jan 22 11:16:51 2009
From: pbarick at niu.edu (Peter Barick)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:16:51 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WEB beacon
Message-ID: <49784793020000C80005F775@wpo.cso.niu.edu>

Garry and Group,

Heh heh, well a good I didn't give a WEB signal report on last night's rx-ing before I read the List mail ;-))

Thought I had a good but unusual copy of WEB. Had been watching MP and CV (good copy on mP, bit less for CV) and switched to WEB's freq. at 11:30P CST. Wow, a good trace started on Argo-30 and then shifted DFCW-like 0.5Hz, up and down. Did that a few times and continued solid. It was about 1.5Hz higher that last time I recorded WEB a month back. Thougt Bill was out at the shed turning dials. Heh heh, now I know "the rest of the story." Well sumpin was out there writing on My Argo, hmm, who was that masked signal?

Seeing as Bill didn't protect that cable that crushed, may be a while 'til next one gets buried for WEB to QRSS again.

Other note: Unusual last night too the level of foreign BC at 182 (Euro-1) and also 162 at 9:45P. But that from 190 was down. It's more common to hear LF BC nearer sundown only.

Will be waiting for the real WEB after this weekend. ;-))  Peter 
------------------------------
>>> Garry and Linda Hess <k3siw at sbcglobal.net> 01/21/09 9:10 PM >>>
A note received 1/19/09 from Bill but as far as I know not placed on 
this list is as follows:
 
 >I got out to WEB antenna this morning & found it was dead!  The 
problem was that I have a 500 foot 12 volt power >cable from the shop to 
the antenna and it was dug in under a gravel driveway. A heavy truch 
must have crushed the >cable.
<clip'd>

From steveratz at wildblue.net  Thu Jan 22 11:29:47 2009
From: steveratz at wildblue.net (Steve Ratzlaff)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:29:47 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] No lowfers received last night in NE Oregon
Message-ID: <6D29E6D8602E4994B670901114CD27E7@DG1R70F1>

I tried for lowfers last night, but there was some exceptionally good TA 
LWBC propagation going on, and the 160-190kc segment for lowfers was ruined 
by the high signal levels of the LWBC. Everytime I checked, all Argo would 
get was hash. 171 Morocco was S9 level a number of times, and still good at 
0600 utc, for instance. Conditions haven't been this good since last fall.
Steve
NE Oregon 


From steveratz at wildblue.net  Thu Jan 22 11:33:16 2009
From: steveratz at wildblue.net (Steve Ratzlaff)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:33:16 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] WEB beacon (not on)
References: <49784793020000C80005F775@wpo.cso.niu.edu>
Message-ID: <20E70FC3500A439C881695FFF8A98D0C@DG1R70F1>

I was seeing the same type signal on WEB's frequency several days ago, when 
I was also hunting for WEB. I hope it doesn't cover up WEB once it comes 
back on.
Steve
NE Oregon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Barick" <pbarick at niu.edu>
To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WEB beacon


> Garry and Group,
>
> Heh heh, well a good I didn't give a WEB signal report on last night's 
> rx-ing before I read the List mail ;-))
>
> Thought I had a good but unusual copy of WEB. Had been watching MP and CV 
> (good copy on mP, bit less for CV) and switched to WEB's freq. at 11:30P 
> CST. Wow, a good trace started on Argo-30 and then shifted DFCW-like 
> 0.5Hz, up and down. Did that a few times and continued solid. It was about 
> 1.5Hz higher that last time I recorded WEB a month back. Thougt Bill was 
> out at the shed turning dials. Heh heh, now I know "the rest of the 
> story." Well sumpin was out there writing on My Argo, hmm, who was that 
> masked signal?
>
> Seeing as Bill didn't protect that cable that crushed, may be a while 'til 
> next one gets buried for WEB to QRSS again.
>
> Other note: Unusual last night too the level of foreign BC at 182 (Euro-1) 
> and also 162 at 9:45P. But that from 190 was down. It's more common to 
> hear LF BC nearer sundown only.
>
> Will be waiting for the real WEB after this weekend. ;-))  Peter
> ------------------------------
>>>> Garry and Linda Hess <k3siw at sbcglobal.net> 01/21/09 9:10 PM >>>
> A note received 1/19/09 from Bill but as far as I know not placed on
> this list is as follows:
>
> >I got out to WEB antenna this morning & found it was dead!  The
> problem was that I have a 500 foot 12 volt power >cable from the shop to
> the antenna and it was dug in under a gravel driveway. A heavy truch
> must have crushed the >cable.
> <clip'd>
> _______________________________________________
>>From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer 


From we0h at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 22 12:23:49 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:23:49 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WMS in CT
In-Reply-To: <20090122160121.857BC373821B@mailman.qth.net>
References: <20090122160121.857BC373821B@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <4978ABA5.2020807@yahoo.com>

Hi Paul,

Is that a steel or aluminum tower? That would make one heck of a nice 
600 meter antenna!!! hi hi...

Thanks,
Mike
/16



PAUL wrote:
>
> Jay thats the record so far. I list my speed as qrss 30 out of habit 
> but it is closer to qrss 60.
>
> I am using K1EL chip at .02 wpm. Steves newer chips offer .04 wpm. I 
> have thought of installing
>
> one of the newer chips and shortening to a two letter id . Dex and 
> Roger have had problem getting
>
> full Id due to the length of my ID with qsb. Dex has pictures of my 
> setup on http://www.w4dex.com/gallery/WMS
>
>  
>
> I wonder what you are using for rec and antenna.
>
>  
>
> From the reports I have seen propagaion is long. WEB has been down a 
> few days. I dont see CV and UWL. I am about
>
> 254 from CV and about 330 from UWL. My guess  is we are too close.
>
>  
>
> Thanks for spending the time looking for me. Before sundown I'll tweak 
> it up.
>
>  
>
> 73 Paul Daulton k5wms
>

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 15:40:50 2009
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:40:50 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon reception reports
Message-ID: <4978D9D2.5040203@sbcglobal.net>

Overnight, beacons TAG (Wolf10 on 185.8 kHz, 0700-0800Z), XR (ARGO 
QRSS60, slow on 184.321.8 kHz, 0900-1000Z), MP (ARGO QRSS30, slow on 
185.301.1 kHz, 1100-1230Z), and CV (ARGO QRSS30, slow on 185.298.3 kHz, 
1100-1230Z) were good copy near Chicago. No sign of UWL at the watering 
hole so I'm wondering if it has a problem. Beacon SJ was monitored on 
186.850 kHz, QRSS10 just prior to looking for TAG but it was just barely 
noticeable.

Also just prior to the Wolf run my soundcard was calibrated using 
Loran-C as described by John, W1TAG at 
http://www.w1tag.com/WOLFSamp.htm. Neil has calibrated his system using 
a neat PCB that divides down a 10 MHz GPS-locked oscillator to 1000 Hz. 
Interestingly, he sees a repeatable tuning error of -0.283 Hz compared 
to the -0.068 Hz I see. Hopefully I'll soon have one of Neil's boards 
running too so I can compare the two calibration techniques. They really 
should be identical so probably I've not done a good job establishing 
the tuning error of my IC-706MkIIG radio.

Here are TAG decodes from last night:

2009-01-22 05:47:32 >WOLF10  -r 10800.690 -f 400 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000 -ut
.
.
06:22:44 f:-0.068 pm:18.09 jm:805 q: -2.0 -6.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:24:20 f:-0.068 pm:19.89 jm:805 q: -1.8 -5.8 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:25:56 f:-0.068 pm:20.71 jm:805 q: -1.5 -5.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:27:32 f:-0.068 pm:20.90 jm:805 q: -1.4 -5.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:29:08 f:-0.068 pm:21.05 jm:805 q: -1.1 -5.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:30:44 f:-0.068 pm:21.32 jm:805 q: -1.0 -5.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:32:20 f:-0.068 pm:21.60 jm:805 q: -1.0 -5.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:33:56 f:-0.068 pm:23.51 jm:805 q: -0.8 -4.8 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:35:32 f:-0.068 pm:24.76 jm:805 q: -0.8 -4.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:37:08 f:-0.068 pm:25.88 jm:805 q: -0.7 -4.8 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:38:44 f:-0.068 pm:25.92 jm:805 q: -0.7 -4.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:40:20 f:-0.068 pm:26.46 jm:805 q: -0.7 -4.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
2009-01-22 06:40:30 >WOLF10  -r 10800.690 -f 400 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000 -ut
.
.
07:01:18 f:-0.068 pm:17.01 jm:703 q: -3.3 -5.9 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

73,
Garry, K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL


From k5wms at aristotle.net  Thu Jan 22 14:45:36 2009
From: k5wms at aristotle.net (PAUL DAULTON)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:45:36 -0500 
Subject: [Lowfer] FWD: WEB
Message-ID: <20090122204743.02BFA3738850@mailman.qth.net>

got this good news
Paul k5wms
-----Original Message-----
From: WilliamE1122 at comcast.net
Sent: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:00:01 +0000 (UTC)
To: RR Bill Oliver <billoliver at verizon.net>, RR Garry Hess
 <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>, RR John H Davis <johndavis at lwca.org>, RR Kevin
 Carey <kcarey1 at frontiernet.net>, RR Mich Powell
 <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>, RR Mike dibella <n1gct at yahoo.com>, RR Paul
 Daulton <k5wms at aristotle.net>, RR Pete Smith <psmith at xmission.com> 
Subject: WEB
 
WEB is back on the air 24 / 7 at 189.950 using QRSS-30.
BIll
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From esmithmail at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 15:58:54 2009
From: esmithmail at gmail.com (esmithmail at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:58:54 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon reception reports
In-Reply-To: <4978D9D2.5040203@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4978D9D2.5040203@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1405565484-1232657878-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1114381969-@bxe017.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Sorry, I thought I sent an email about UWL...moved QTH. Will be off...back on in a couple of weeks, I hope!
Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device from U.S. Cellular

-----Original Message-----
From: Garry and Linda Hess <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>

Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:40:50 
To: lowfer mailing list<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon reception reports


Overnight, beacons TAG (Wolf10 on 185.8 kHz, 0700-0800Z), XR (ARGO 
QRSS60, slow on 184.321.8 kHz, 0900-1000Z), MP (ARGO QRSS30, slow on 
185.301.1 kHz, 1100-1230Z), and CV (ARGO QRSS30, slow on 185.298.3 kHz, 
1100-1230Z) were good copy near Chicago. No sign of UWL at the watering 
hole so I'm wondering if it has a problem. Beacon SJ was monitored on 
186.850 kHz, QRSS10 just prior to looking for TAG but it was just barely 
noticeable.

Also just prior to the Wolf run my soundcard was calibrated using 
Loran-C as described by John, W1TAG at 
http://www.w1tag.com/WOLFSamp.htm. Neil has calibrated his system using 
a neat PCB that divides down a 10 MHz GPS-locked oscillator to 1000 Hz. 
Interestingly, he sees a repeatable tuning error of -0.283 Hz compared 
to the -0.068 Hz I see. Hopefully I'll soon have one of Neil's boards 
running too so I can compare the two calibration techniques. They really 
should be identical so probably I've not done a good job establishing 
the tuning error of my IC-706MkIIG radio.

Here are TAG decodes from last night:

2009-01-22 05:47:32 >WOLF10  -r 10800.690 -f 400 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000 -ut
.
.
06:22:44 f:-0.068 pm:18.09 jm:805 q: -2.0 -6.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:24:20 f:-0.068 pm:19.89 jm:805 q: -1.8 -5.8 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:25:56 f:-0.068 pm:20.71 jm:805 q: -1.5 -5.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:27:32 f:-0.068 pm:20.90 jm:805 q: -1.4 -5.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:29:08 f:-0.068 pm:21.05 jm:805 q: -1.1 -5.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:30:44 f:-0.068 pm:21.32 jm:805 q: -1.0 -5.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:32:20 f:-0.068 pm:21.60 jm:805 q: -1.0 -5.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:33:56 f:-0.068 pm:23.51 jm:805 q: -0.8 -4.8 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:35:32 f:-0.068 pm:24.76 jm:805 q: -0.8 -4.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:37:08 f:-0.068 pm:25.88 jm:805 q: -0.7 -4.8 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:38:44 f:-0.068 pm:25.92 jm:805 q: -0.7 -4.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:40:20 f:-0.068 pm:26.46 jm:805 q: -0.7 -4.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
2009-01-22 06:40:30 >WOLF10  -r 10800.690 -f 400 -t 1.0 -w 0.0000 -ut
.
.
07:01:18 f:-0.068 pm:17.01 jm:703 q: -3.3 -5.9 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

73,
Garry, K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL

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From esmithmail at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 16:00:59 2009
From: esmithmail at gmail.com (esmithmail at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:00:59 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] UWL is off
Message-ID: <1655990461-1232657999-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1339459360-@bxe017.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Moved QTH. Hope to be back on in a couple of weeks. Thanks for all the reports!

Eric KD5UWL / WD2XFX
Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device from U.S. Cellular

From w9nu at msn.com  Thu Jan 22 17:50:04 2009
From: w9nu at msn.com (Neil Dodson)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:50:04 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] XR finally copied FB of Jan 22
Message-ID: <BAY109-DS379F25C3D049E914C196990CE0@phx.gbl>

To Andy KU4XR et all,

I finally caught "XR" last night Jan 22 on 184.322 KHz with two in a row
ARGO screen captures perfect images.   This one has been my hardest to date
to capture for some reason but patients paid off.

I can send anyone the screen capture if interested.

W9NU located in EN71as using a 10' shielded loop into an IC706MIIG with lots
of extra gain.

Thanks for the nice beacon Andy.

73's  Neil  W9NU  in EN71as

NNNN


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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 22 18:50:48 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:50:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] XR finally copied FB of Jan 22
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DS379F25C3D049E914C196990CE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <26024.41700.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hey Neil:

TNX for looking so long for my signal, I'm glad you finally
got it. I would like to have your captures, because I post
them on the My Space page for Beacon " XR " reception reports.
I'll drop you a QSL in the mail shortly. 73, and Good LOWfer-ing.

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Neil Dodson <w9nu at msn.com> wrote:

> From: Neil Dodson <w9nu at msn.com>
> Subject: [Lowfer] XR finally copied FB of Jan 22
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 5:50 PM
> To Andy KU4XR et all,
> 
> I finally caught "XR" last night Jan 22 on
> 184.322 KHz with two in a row
> ARGO screen captures perfect images.   This one has been my
> hardest to date
> to capture for some reason but patients paid off.
> 
> I can send anyone the screen capture if interested.
> 
> W9NU located in EN71as using a 10' shielded loop into
> an IC706MIIG with lots
> of extra gain.
> 
> Thanks for the nice beacon Andy.
> 
> 73's  Neil  W9NU  in EN71as
> 
> NNNN
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From w9nu at msn.com  Thu Jan 22 19:57:14 2009
From: w9nu at msn.com (Neil Dodson)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:57:14 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] MP copied day or night here
Message-ID: <BAY109-DS4F4CCE3B9D20D593D9FF190CF0@phx.gbl>

Hi All,

Beacon "MP" always pounds in here.   They must have put a candle under the 
loading coil or something like that.   MP can be copied almost any time of day
or night here and if no other beacons are printing, I can always get a copy of "MP"

Whatever you have done, IT WORKS!    And don't fix it.

10" shielded loop into an IC706MIIG.

73's  Neil  W9NU in EN71as   Elkhart, IN
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From gerfmon at mesanetworks.net  Thu Jan 22 20:35:15 2009
From: gerfmon at mesanetworks.net (Jerry Sharp)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:35:15 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Good Copy Of XR Into Colorado
Message-ID: <49791ED3.5080002@mesanetworks.net>

Early this morning, around 12:15 AM MST (07:15 UTC), Andy's beacon XR 
suddenly faded up from the noise. For the next two hours I copied him 
with the strongest and most consistent signal so far. By 2:15 AM I 
couldn't hold my eyes open any longer and shut down for the night.

My Argo capture can be found here:

http://www.underwesternskies.net/lowfers/XR_01_22_2009_0901UTC.jpg

And btw, Steve if you see this, yes I did get my receiving antenna back 
up to 40 feet above the ground. That was after replacing about 40 feet 
of privacy fence that was destroyed, replacing a dozen or so shingles 
that blew off of my roof, putting my HF inverted-vee back up, and fixing 
a few other things the 90+ MPH Chinook winds damaged.

73,
Jerry Sharp, KD0GS
Longmont, CO
DN70ke




From pbarick at niu.edu  Thu Jan 22 20:55:27 2009
From: pbarick at niu.edu (Peter Barick)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:55:27 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer]  WEB In and On Freq
Message-ID: <4978CF2F020000C80005F92A@wpo.cso.niu.edu>

All,
Thanks for the heads-up on WEB's recovery.
I started early and found WEB on frequency and displaying just fine on Argo30.

Like to say hello to Neil, who's joined us LowFERs on the LF List.

Peter -- N IL
----------------------------------
>>> "Neil Dodson" <w9nu at msn.com> 01/22/09 6:57 PM >>>
Hi All,

Beacon "MP" always pounds in here.   They must have put a candle under the 
<...>

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 22 21:09:18 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:09:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Good Copy Of XR Into Colorado
In-Reply-To: <49791ED3.5080002@mesanetworks.net>
Message-ID: <555823.23038.qm@web63605.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

TNX AGN Jerry for another good capture of " XR " cndx are very 
good now for the long distance stuff. 73 to you.

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Jerry Sharp <gerfmon at mesanetworks.net> wrote:

> From: Jerry Sharp <gerfmon at mesanetworks.net>
> Subject: [Lowfer] Good Copy Of XR Into Colorado
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 8:35 PM
> Early this morning, around 12:15 AM MST (07:15 UTC),
> Andy's beacon XR 
> suddenly faded up from the noise. For the next two hours I
> copied him 
> with the strongest and most consistent signal so far. By
> 2:15 AM I 
> couldn't hold my eyes open any longer and shut down for
> the night.
> 
> My Argo capture can be found here:
> 
> http://www.underwesternskies.net/lowfers/XR_01_22_2009_0901UTC.jpg
> 
> And btw, Steve if you see this, yes I did get my receiving
> antenna back 
> up to 40 feet above the ground. That was after replacing
> about 40 feet 
> of privacy fence that was destroyed, replacing a dozen or
> so shingles 
> that blew off of my roof, putting my HF inverted-vee back
> up, and fixing 
> a few other things the 90+ MPH Chinook winds damaged.
> 
> 73,
> Jerry Sharp, KD0GS
> Longmont, CO
> DN70ke
> 
> 
> 
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Thu Jan 22 21:33:49 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:33:49 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WEB in CT
References: <4978CF2F020000C80005F92A@wpo.cso.niu.edu>
Message-ID: <000801c97d03$061604d0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

Guess the repair work at WEB went well. Just had a quick look and was surprised at the signal level. 
This is the earliest in the evening I've seen WEB in many years of monitoring.

http://www.w1vd.com/capture/WEB012209.jpg

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 


From ku7zdn41 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 23:39:34 2009
From: ku7zdn41 at gmail.com (Mark Ku7z)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:39:34 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] WEB into NUT
Message-ID: <49794A06.10407@gmail.com>

Got WEB showing up here tonight!  Will go look for the others now!

73, Mark, Ku7z
DN41af
Ogden, Northern UT (NUT)


From steveratz at wildblue.net  Fri Jan 23 01:28:11 2009
From: steveratz at wildblue.net (Steve Ratzlaff)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:28:11 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] WEB in Oregon too
Message-ID: <B026121A4DC3409389FB7ABCC7A10492@DG1R70F1>

I had to go out for the evening but left the setup going, tuned to WEB. When 
I got back, WEB was strong at 0543 utc. Some nice captures. But going lower 
for other lowfers, the TA LWBC is strong again tonight, and nothing but hash 
on Argo screen.
Steve
NE Oregon 


From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Fri Jan 23 06:52:30 2009
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:52:30 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WEB in MD
Message-ID: <2f80819e0901230352t6704711ct1308f32a564510b9@mail.gmail.com>

Caught WEB this morning with nice copy..de  Lloyd W3NF

www.geocities.com/lacwman/webjan23.jpg

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Fri Jan 23 07:19:42 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 07:19:42 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WEB in CT
Message-ID: <001b01c97d54$deeda190$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

Very nice copy of the repaired WEB last night. Best copy in several years of monitoring...almost 
'welding goggle' copy.

Nice going Bill!

http://www.w1vd.com/capture/WEB012309.jpg

Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 23 11:06:35 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 08:06:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] " XR " QSL card list - are you on it ??
Message-ID: <354416.44541.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hey Everyone:

Sending out 14 QSL's today from the reception reports I've received
since June 2008 when I put " XR " on the air. Question is; did you
send me a report that I have overlooked ?? I would like to get a card 
out to everyone who sent me a report ( with capture hopefully ).
Here's the list, and If you're not on it, let me know;

Mitch Powell
Neil Dodson
Peter Barrick
Garry Hess
Roger Magnuson
Jerry Sharp
Lloyd Chastant
Doug Williams
Bryan Dennis
Jay Rusgrove
Jim McClanahan
Dexter McIntyre
Mark Burton
Dick Goodman

Thanks to everyone who has sent reports, 73 for now !!



Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 23 14:26:44 2009
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:26:44 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon report
Message-ID: <497A19F4.3070205@sbcglobal.net>

It was a pleasant surprise last night to see WEB coming through on ARGO 
already by 7 pm CST. From the reports of others it's clear WEB attracted 
a lot of attention. NDBs from Greenland through Brazil were chased later 
in the evening , then beacon WMS was tracked until sunrise. The ARGO 
QRSS-60, slow captures from 0600Z to 1100Z 1/23/09 were good with small, 
slow frequency drifts about the nominal 187.490.6 kHz evident.

73,
Garry
K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL

From k5wms at aristotle.net  Fri Jan 23 16:22:35 2009
From: k5wms at aristotle.net (PAUL DAULTON)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:22:35 -0500 
Subject: [Lowfer] Propagation
Message-ID: <20090123222440.4EA4A373816F@mailman.qth.net>

My friend Paul AF5M and I were discussing the recent reports this week
 which have been so good.
Paul said there were 10 sunspots last week. Is there any correlation
 between the sunspots and 
the excellent propagation. Seems like there were some spots back in SEPT
 08.
How about comment from those more noledgeable?
Paul k5wms
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From evp at pacbell.net  Fri Jan 23 18:42:09 2009
From: evp at pacbell.net (Ed Phillips)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:42:09 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Propagation
In-Reply-To: <20090123222440.4EA4A373816F@mailman.qth.net>
References: <20090123222440.4EA4A373816F@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <497A55D1.70004@pacbell.net>

    Unfortunately, according to today's ARRL Newsletter there were NO 
sunspots last week - report is bogus.  Keep in touch daily at:

    http://lwca.org/sunpage.html

Ed

PAUL DAULTON wrote:

> My friend Paul AF5M and I were discussing the recent reports this week 
> which have been so good.
>
> Paul said there were 10 sunspots last week. Is there any correlation 
> between the sunspots and
>
> the excellent propagation. Seems like there were some spots back in 
> SEPT 08.
>
>  
>
> How about comment from those more noledgeable?
>
>  
>
> Paul k5wms
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From cqkg8co at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 23 21:09:23 2009
From: cqkg8co at yahoo.com (Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:09:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] WEB Copied
Message-ID: <466806.92741.qm@web38508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

WEB is being copied at 2:00 UTC

Brian, KG8CO
Clinton, MI
EN82


      

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Jan 24 08:24:23 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 08:24:23 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG in CT
Message-ID: <003d01c97e27$12ae31c0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

Quick lockup this morning...

2009-01-24 13:02:49 >WOLF10  -r 8001.040 -f 800 -t 1.0 -d 16 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f:-0.012 a:-1.5 dp: 78.1 ci: 6 cj:103 TAG RA9G7RP5ME  -
t:  48 f:-0.007 a: 1.3 dp: 76.5 ci: 6 cj:103 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:  96 f:-0.009 a: 1.4 dp: 78.3 ci: 6 cj:103 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 192 f:-0.010 pm:92.06 jm:754 q:  5.5  6.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 288 f:-0.010 pm:159.2 jm:754 q:  8.8  9.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 384 f:-0.010 pm:222.1 jm:754 q: 10.5 10.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 480 f:-0.010 pm:287.5 jm:754 q: 11.4 11.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 576 f:-0.010 pm:355.5 jm:754 q: 11.8 11.8 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 672 f:-0.010 pm:418.2 jm:754 q: 12.5 12.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 768 f:-0.010 pm:472.3 jm:754 q: 13.5 13.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 864 f:-0.010 pm:532.5 jm:754 q: 13.9 13.9 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 960 f:-0.010 pm:582.1 jm:754 q: 14.1 14.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:1056 f:-0.010 pm:629.7 jm:754 q: 14.4 14.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

Jay


From alan.melia at btinternet.com  Sat Jan 24 13:00:06 2009
From: alan.melia at btinternet.com (Alan Melia)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:00:06 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] re@Propagation
Message-ID: <001a01c97e4d$98e202a0$0900a8c0@AM>

Hi Paul, well its is almost a negative correlation with sun-spots!
Geomagnetic activity has a much bigger effect. It doesnt get much press over
there but I publish an (almost) daily propagation report biassed towards our
136kHz band but also pertinent to 500khz and frequencies in between. The
"informed" comment is a result of about 7 years of watching LF band beacons
and a great deal of help from Brian CT1DRP. Steve WEEE, and Wolf DL6YHF, and
many others who publish reports and grabbers.

http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/latest.htm

I hope that helps a lot of the "articles" are getting a bit old now but I
have an update that will be posted soon.

Alan G3NYK



From evp at pacbell.net  Sat Jan 24 13:23:02 2009
From: evp at pacbell.net (Ed Phillips)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:23:02 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] re@Propagation
In-Reply-To: <001a01c97e4d$98e202a0$0900a8c0@AM>
References: <001a01c97e4d$98e202a0$0900a8c0@AM>
Message-ID: <497B5C86.1080303@pacbell.net>

Alan:

    What's the story on the "sun spots" reported in Paul's original 
reference?  Real or some other quantity related to solar activity.  I 
find the RSGA to be very useful and I have a recording magnetometer 
[really sort of a micro compass] here which correlates pretty well and 
gives me continuous readouts.  Shows effects of solar disturbances, some 
of which are pretty interesting and show up as pulses in the middle of 
the night.

Ed


From w1tag at charter.net  Sat Jan 24 19:39:04 2009
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:39:04 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG in CT
In-Reply-To: <003d01c97e27$12ae31c0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <003d01c97e27$12ae31c0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <497BB4A8.4040400@charter.net>

JR,

> Quick lockup this morning...
> 
> 2009-01-24 13:02:49 >WOLF10  -r 8001.040 -f 800 -t 1.0 -d 16 -w 0.0000
> t:  24 f:-0.012 a:-1.5 dp: 78.1 ci: 6 cj:103 TAG RA9G7RP5ME  -
> t:  48 f:-0.007 a: 1.3 dp: 76.5 ci: 6 cj:103 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

It would be nice to have ground conductivity like this in warmer 
weather, wouldn't it?

JA

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Jan 24 20:29:13 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:29:13 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WEB in CT ... EH also ... HI
Message-ID: <004001c97e8c$545249d0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

Impressive signal from WEB early tonight:

http://www.w1vd.com/capture/WEB012409.jpg

Also good copy of EH throughout the day and on into the evening on 511.907 kHz.

HI must have a keyer problem ... been sending HI S all day.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2  

From we0h at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 24 21:23:58 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:23:58 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] NEED freq? 505.000kc or ?
Message-ID: <497BCD3E.4030704@yahoo.com>

Can anyone tell me if NEED is exactly 505.000kc or what it is exactly? I 
am looking for some signals to verify my DDS VFO's calibration to. 
Having a hard time hearing the beat note against WWV. Only looking for 
1hz steps to calibrate it against.

Thanks much,
Mike
WE0H

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 24 22:06:56 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:06:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] NEED freq? 505.000kc or ?
In-Reply-To: <497BCD3E.4030704@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <625673.1240.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Mike I'm hearing it right now on 503.930 try listening there

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Sat, 1/24/09, Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Lowfer] NEED freq? 505.000kc or ?
> To: "SHMRG" <shmrg at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>, "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 9:23 PM
> Can anyone tell me if NEED is exactly 505.000kc or what it
> is exactly? I 
> am looking for some signals to verify my DDS VFO's
> calibration to. 
> Having a hard time hearing the beat note against WWV. Only
> looking for 
> 1hz steps to calibrate it against.
> 
> Thanks much,
> Mike
> WE0H
> _______________________________________________
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From we0h at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 24 22:22:56 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:22:56 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] NEED freq? 505.000kc or ?
In-Reply-To: <625673.1240.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <625673.1240.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <497BDB10.6000207@yahoo.com>

I hear it well but wondering the precise freq that it is on. I just 
built a FCC-1/FCC-2 DDS VFO and want to get it's calibration within 1hz. 
So far it is checking darn close on the 24kc, 60kc, 2.5mc & 5mc signals 
I can hear, but I am not 100% sure it is right on the money or not. I'll 
go see if BRO is on 1750m as he uses a GPS sinc'd oscillator I believe.

Mike



Andy - KU4XR wrote:
> Mike I'm hearing it right now on 503.930 try listening there
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
> Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
> http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Jan 24 22:24:00 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:24:00 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] NEED freq? 505.000kc or ?
References: <625673.1240.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002501c97e9c$5da40cc0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

Carrier at 505000.94 kHz.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



>> From: Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [Lowfer] NEED freq? 505.000kc or ?
>> To: "SHMRG" <shmrg at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu>, "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and 
>> MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>> Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 9:23 PM
>> Can anyone tell me if NEED is exactly 505.000kc or what it
>> is exactly? I
>> am looking for some signals to verify my DDS VFO's
>> calibration to.
>> Having a hard time hearing the beat note against WWV. Only
>> looking for
>> 1hz steps to calibrate it against.
>>
>> Thanks much,
>> Mike
>> WE0H
>> _______________________________________________
>> >From the Lowfer mailing list
>> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
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>
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From we0h at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 24 22:34:43 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:34:43 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] NEED freq? 505.000kc or ?
In-Reply-To: <002501c97e9c$5da40cc0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <625673.1240.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<002501c97e9c$5da40cc0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <497BDDD3.9020306@yahoo.com>

That's perfect as I was getting zero beat at 505.001kc on the display. Cool.

Mike



Jay wrote:
> Carrier at 505000.94 kHz.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

From we0h at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 24 23:21:17 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:21:17 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Orlando Hamfest in February???
Message-ID: <497BE8BD.6020701@yahoo.com>

Anyone going to the hamfest in Orlando this February? I'll be there for 
Friday & Saturday.

Mike
WE0H

From we0h at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 25 00:10:56 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:10:56 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] PSK on 506.75kc tonight
Message-ID: <497BF460.5000600@yahoo.com>

A bit of PSK-31 on ~506.75kc as I work at the bench. Don't have the 
beacon software in the modem yet so just hitting the key to send some 
pre-canned info...

Mike
WE0H
/16

From ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com  Sun Jan 25 00:24:02 2009
From: ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com (ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:24:02 EST
Subject: [Lowfer] PSK on 506.75kc tonight
Message-ID: <c78.4a2fcfb8.36ad5172@aol.com>

In a message dated 1/25/2009 12:11:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
we0h at yahoo.com writes:

A bit of PSK-31 on ~506.75kc as I work at the bench. Don't have the  
beacon software in the modem yet so just hitting the key to send some  
pre-canned info...

Mike
WE0H
/16
 
___________________________________________________________________________
 
Hi Mike,
Copying your PSK31 signal very well here tonite in South Carolina!
Practically solid copy using an R75 + Ratzlaff active whip + Ham Radio  
Deluxe software
DM780 into a Dell 4600. Very nice printout. 
 
0507UTC 01/25/09 506.75KHz :
Message Copied:
 
vvv de wd2xsh/16 wd2xsh/16 running 90 into a 70 inverted L  vertical.
Grid sq EN35hj. Homebrew transverter into a TS-930 rig. email reports  to
 _we0h at yahoo.com_ (mailto:we0h at yahoo.com)  Thanks for  listening es 73's from 
Minnesota
 
Good work! I think PSK31 is the way to go on 505KHz!!
 
73 Todd WD4NGG
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From we0h at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 25 00:38:45 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:38:45 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] PSK on 506.75kc tonight
In-Reply-To: <c78.4a2fcfb8.36ad5172@aol.com>
References: <c78.4a2fcfb8.36ad5172@aol.com>
Message-ID: <497BFAE5.9090200@yahoo.com>

Hi Todd,

That's the furthest for my PSK signal yet. Cool. I think it is a good 
mode also for that band. Lots of fading on 600m and CW gets lost in the 
fades real easy yet PSK makes it through most of the time. Something 
different anyhow.

Thanks for listening,
Mike
WE0H
/16



Todd wrote:
> In a message dated 1/25/2009 12:11:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> we0h writes:
>
> A bit of PSK-31 on ~506.75kc as I work at the bench. Don't have the  
> beacon software in the modem yet so just hitting the key to send some  
> pre-canned info...
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
>  
> ___________________________________________________________________________
>  
> Hi Mike,
> Copying your PSK31 signal very well here tonite in South Carolina!
> Practically solid copy using an R75 + Ratzlaff active whip + Ham Radio  
> Deluxe software
> DM780 into a Dell 4600. Very nice printout. 
>  
> 0507UTC 01/25/09 506.75KHz :
> Message Copied:
>  
> vvv de wd2xsh/16 wd2xsh/16 running 90 into a 70 inverted L  vertical.
> Grid sq EN35hj. Homebrew transverter into a TS-930 rig. email reports  to
>  _we0h at yahoo.com_ (mailto:we0h at yahoo.com)  Thanks for  listening es 73's from 
> Minnesota
>  
> Good work! I think PSK31 is the way to go on 505KHz!!
>  
> 73 Todd WD4NGG

From stevesykes at rochester.rr.com  Sun Jan 25 06:27:10 2009
From: stevesykes at rochester.rr.com (Steve Sykes)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:27:10 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Propagation
Message-ID: <497C4C8E.4050805@rochester.rr.com>

I didn't do very well with the Lowfer monitoring, but at 1000Z Radio 
Reykjavik on 189 kHz was booming in. It sounded like a local AM 
station.  The UK, French and Germans were not audible.

JYY was also quite strong on 40 kHz

Steve W2SES

From wa3usg at verizon.net  Sun Jan 25 09:30:16 2009
From: wa3usg at verizon.net (Richard Goodman)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:30:16 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Propagation
In-Reply-To: <497C4C8E.4050805@rochester.rr.com>
Message-ID: <LBENKNHPADCIMLPCBOKNMEIFDNAA.wa3usg@verizon.net>

I wonder if I was hearing the same thing. It was really strong but sounded
like French. They were playing a lot ofoldies from the 50's.

73
Dick, WA3USG

-----Original Message-----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Steve Sykes
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 6:27 AM
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands
Subject: [Lowfer] Propagation


I didn't do very well with the Lowfer monitoring, but at 1000Z Radio
Reykjavik on 189 kHz was booming in. It sounded like a local AM
station.  The UK, French and Germans were not audible.

JYY was also quite strong on 40 kHz

Steve W2SES
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sun Jan 25 09:51:28 2009
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (J. B. Weazle McCreath)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:51:28 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] PSK31 Sunday eve
Message-ID: <000501c97efc$688e89c0$0b01a8c0@weazle>

Hi Mike, Lowfers,

I was otherwise occupied last evening and missed out on trying for a
capture/decode of your PSK31 transmissions.  Any chance you'll be
on again Sunday eve?  I'll have things set up for 506.750 kHz.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle



From stevesykes at rochester.rr.com  Sun Jan 25 10:01:06 2009
From: stevesykes at rochester.rr.com (Steve Sykes)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:01:06 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Propagation
In-Reply-To: <LBENKNHPADCIMLPCBOKNMEIFDNAA.wa3usg@verizon.net>
References: <LBENKNHPADCIMLPCBOKNMEIFDNAA.wa3usg@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <497C7EB2.5020509@rochester.rr.com>

If it was on 189, it is Iceland. I recorded some of it if you would like 
confirmation.
Steve
Richard Goodman wrote:
> I wonder if I was hearing the same thing. It was really strong but sounded
> like French. They were playing a lot ofoldies from the 50's.
>
> 73
> Dick, WA3USG
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Steve Sykes
> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 6:27 AM
> To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands
> Subject: [Lowfer] Propagation
>
>
> I didn't do very well with the Lowfer monitoring, but at 1000Z Radio
> Reykjavik on 189 kHz was booming in. It sounded like a local AM
> station.  The UK, French and Germans were not audible.
>
> JYY was also quite strong on 40 kHz
>
> Steve W2SES
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From we0h at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 25 11:49:23 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:49:23 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] PSK31 Sunday eve
In-Reply-To: <000501c97efc$688e89c0$0b01a8c0@weazle>
References: <000501c97efc$688e89c0$0b01a8c0@weazle>
Message-ID: <497C9813.2080805@yahoo.com>

I sure will put a signal on the air for you. Let me know your schedule 
and I'll make sure I have it running then.

Mike
WE0H



J. B.  wrote:
> Hi Mike, Lowfers,
>
> I was otherwise occupied last evening and missed out on trying for a
> capture/decode of your PSK31 transmissions.  Any chance you'll be
> on again Sunday eve?  I'll have things set up for 506.750 kHz.
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
>
> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle

From ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com  Sun Jan 25 11:51:44 2009
From: ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com (ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:51:44 EST
Subject: [Lowfer] Propagation
Message-ID: <c77.4051fdfc.36adf2a0@aol.com>

In a message dated 1/25/2009 6:27:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
stevesykes at rochester.rr.com writes:

I didn't do very well with the Lowfer monitoring, but at 1000Z Radio  
Reykjavik on 189 kHz was booming in. It sounded like a local AM  
station.  The UK, French and Germans were not audible.

JYY was  also quite strong on 40 kHz

Steve W2SES
 
____________________________________________________________
 
Hi Steve,
Glad to hear someone else heard 189KHz overnite. It was the best I have 
ever heard them also and recorded a few minutes near the top of the  hour.
They gave 8 gongs on the hour when I listened at 0800Z so they are right 
on UTC time.
 
Also heard BBC on 198KHz underneath strong beacon DIW in North  Carolina
last night. I switched in the Auto Notch Filter on the R75 to notch out the  
DIW ID 
and had very good copy of voice and music on 198.  DIW runs about 20  over S9 
here 
so the propagation had to be very good for the BBC to override DIW 
here along the Southeast coast.
 
Exceptional conditions last nite for LW broadcast! Static was low  too.
 
73 Todd WD4NGG
 
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From wd2xgj at gmail.com  Sun Jan 25 11:53:33 2009
From: wd2xgj at gmail.com (Warren Ziegler)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:53:33 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Propagation
In-Reply-To: <LBENKNHPADCIMLPCBOKNMEIFDNAA.wa3usg@verizon.net>
References: <497C4C8E.4050805@rochester.rr.com>
	<LBENKNHPADCIMLPCBOKNMEIFDNAA.wa3usg@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <57a24ca70901250853v53c4adakd874dd44f3f34320@mail.gmail.com>

Dick,
     Icelandic sounds nothing like French!  Iceland on 189 tends to
play pop songs in English.
The station on 183 (Europe 1) is in French.
Iceland has really been booming in at my QTH lately, also a local
noise source on  190 has gone away making for pleasant listening in
wide bandwidths.

73 Warren

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Richard Goodman <wa3usg at verizon.net> wrote:
> I wonder if I was hearing the same thing. It was really strong but sounded
> like French. They were playing a lot ofoldies from the 50's.
>
> 73
> Dick, WA3USG
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Steve Sykes
> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 6:27 AM
> To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands
> Subject: [Lowfer] Propagation
>
>
> I didn't do very well with the Lowfer monitoring, but at 1000Z Radio
> Reykjavik on 189 kHz was booming in. It sounded like a local AM
> station.  The UK, French and Germans were not audible.
>
> JYY was also quite strong on 40 kHz
>
> Steve W2SES
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

From mikea at mikea.ath.cx  Sun Jan 25 13:22:09 2009
From: mikea at mikea.ath.cx (Mike Andrews W5EGO)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:22:09 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] NEED freq? 505.000kc or ?
In-Reply-To: <002501c97e9c$5da40cc0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <625673.1240.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<002501c97e9c$5da40cc0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <20090125182209.GA55724@mikea.ath.cx>

On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 10:24:00PM -0500, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
> Carrier at 505000.94 kHz.

Really? Not 505000.94 Hz?

-- 
Mike Andrews, W5EGO
mikea at mikea.ath.cx
Tired old sysadmin 

From riese-k3djc at juno.com  Sun Jan 25 13:22:50 2009
From: riese-k3djc at juno.com (riese-k3djc at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:22:50 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Propagation
Message-ID: <20090125.132251.4052.1.riese-k3djc@juno.com>


For the last week or so all the LW broadcast stations have been
phenomenal
I have been able to hear them with my Kaito 1103 with the internal loop
stick
there was a station up frequency around .3 that I have never heard before
and i didnt note the frequency
anyone have a guess  ?

Bob K3DJC 




> I didn't do very well with the Lowfer monitoring, but at 1000Z 
> Radio
> Reykjavik on 189 kHz was booming in. It sounded like a local AM
> station.  The UK, French and Germans were not audible.
> 
> JYY was also quite strong on 40 kHz
> 
> Steve W2SES
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From we0h at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 25 13:53:32 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:53:32 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] NEED freq? 505.000kc or ?
In-Reply-To: <20090125182209.GA55724@mikea.ath.cx>
References: <625673.1240.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>	<002501c97e9c$5da40cc0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<20090125182209.GA55724@mikea.ath.cx>
Message-ID: <497CB52C.3000808@yahoo.com>

That's what happens when a guy hangs out on the Part 5 bands for so many 
years and everything is called out in khz or kc. I gave some reception 
reports for 10 meter beacons yesterday and found I was typing the freq 
as 28.xxx kc...Oh well, they figured out what I meant. hi hi...

Mike
WE0H



Mike  W5EGO wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 10:24:00PM -0500, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
>   
>> Carrier at 505000.94 kHz.
>>     
>
> Really? Not 505000.94 Hz?
>
>   

From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sun Jan 25 17:09:34 2009
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (J. B. Weazle McCreath)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:09:34 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] PSK31 Sunday eve
References: <000501c97efc$688e89c0$0b01a8c0@weazle>
	<497C9813.2080805@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000001c97f39$9c267800$0b01a8c0@weazle>

Hi Mike, lowfers,

As of 22:00 utc I'm ready for your PSK31 signal on 506.750 kHz.
The RX button has been clicked upon, so here's hoping I can get
a decode this evening.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle



From ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com  Sun Jan 25 17:59:04 2009
From: ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com (ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:59:04 EST
Subject: [Lowfer] Hearing NEED again tonite
Message-ID: <d4d.3aa51baf.36ae48b8@aol.com>

Just listened at 2250UTC and hear NEED again tonite on 505KHz
carrier frequency. I am copying it right now in the AM mode with a 
good signal level.
 
73 Todd WD4NGG
 
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From we0h at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 25 18:48:40 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:48:40 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] /16 on PSK-31 506.75kc
Message-ID: <497CFA58.2010904@yahoo.com>

On the air right now 506.75kc is the signal freq.
BPSK-31 with a fast CW ID.

Mike
WE0H
/16

From ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com  Sun Jan 25 19:14:01 2009
From: ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com (ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:14:01 EST
Subject: [Lowfer] /16 on PSK-31 506.75kc
Message-ID: <cb9.3ffd8f23.36ae5a49@aol.com>

In a message dated 1/25/2009 6:49:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
we0h at yahoo.com writes:

On the air right now 506.75kc is the signal freq.
BPSK-31 with a fast CW  ID.

Mike
WE0H
/16
 
______________________________________________________________________________
__
 
 
Hi Mike,
Just got an almost solid decode on your PSK31 signal at
0001Z then signal went into a fade. Condx seem exceptional
again tonite. Thanks for running the PSK31 beacon again.
 
73 - Todd WD4NGG
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From w9nu at msn.com  Sun Jan 25 19:17:45 2009
From: w9nu at msn.com (Neil Dodson)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:17:45 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XSH/16  PSK31 Copied
Message-ID: <BAY109-DS3DC5361B5C4F41E7FA48890CA0@phx.gbl>

Hi all,

I copied WD2XSH/16 very easy on PSK31.    He's running 90W into a 70'
inverted L antenna found on 506.750 Khz.  WE2XGR/6 is calling him on CW
right now and is bending my S meter.

Neil  W9NU in EN71as   Elkhart, IN
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From we0h at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 25 19:18:57 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:18:57 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] /16 on PSK-31 506.75kc
In-Reply-To: <cb9.3ffd8f23.36ae5a49@aol.com>
References: <cb9.3ffd8f23.36ae5a49@aol.com>
Message-ID: <497D0171.8000605@yahoo.com>

Geepers, how far will my 90w signal go? Excellent hearing it go this far.

Thanks much!!!

Mike



Todd wrote:
>   
> we0h writes:
>
> On the air right now 506.75kc is the signal freq.
> BPSK-31 with a fast CW  ID.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
>  
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> __
>  
>  
> Hi Mike,
> Just got an almost solid decode on your PSK31 signal at
> 0001Z then signal went into a fade. Condx seem exceptional
> again tonite. Thanks for running the PSK31 beacon again.
>  
> 73 - Todd WD4NGG

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sun Jan 25 19:43:46 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:43:46 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in JASON
Message-ID: <001601c97f4f$25b56a80$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in JASON .'normal' mode on 508.5 kHz until 0200Z. At 0200Z we'll have 
our regular Sunday might roundtable on 510 kHz USB.

JASON software can be found here:  http://www.weaksignals.com/

Reports on both modes will be appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



From we0h at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 25 19:54:26 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:54:26 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] /16 moving to 506.20kc
Message-ID: <497D09C2.5080105@yahoo.com>

Moving down to 506.20kc to get further away from that strong station...

Mike
WE0H
/16

From pbarick at niu.edu  Sun Jan 25 19:57:24 2009
From: pbarick at niu.edu (Peter Barick)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:57:24 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] /16 on PSK-31 506.75kc
Message-ID: <497CB614020000C80005FDD6@wpo.cso.niu.edu>

Mike,

I find WE0H on CW. When PSK?

/6 is blasting in here desensing the rx. The 600M loop lines up between you up north and /1 to south.

I'll keep watching until I get PSK copy.

--Peter

>>> Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com> 01/25/09 6:20 PM >>>
Geepers, how far will my 90w signal go? Excellent hearing it go this far.

Thanks much!!!

Mike


From we0h at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 25 20:10:32 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:10:32 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] /16 on PSK-31 506.75kc
In-Reply-To: <497CB614020000C80005FDD6@wpo.cso.niu.edu>
References: <497CB614020000C80005FDD6@wpo.cso.niu.edu>
Message-ID: <497D0D88.5050101@yahoo.com>

I was eating dinner at that time. Now on 506.20kc to get further from 
that station that is swamping the whole freakin band...Can't wait to get 
my own Part 5 modified so I can move far way away from the over powered 
stations. Nice people but annoying signals sometimes.

Mike



Peter  wrote:
> Mike,
>
> I find WE0H on CW. When PSK?
>
> /6 is blasting in here desensing the rx. The 600M loop lines up between you up north and /1 to south.
>
> I'll keep watching until I get PSK copy.
>
> --Peter

From pbarick at niu.edu  Sun Jan 25 20:10:51 2009
From: pbarick at niu.edu (Peter Barick)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:10:51 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer]  WE0H 600M PSK FB
Message-ID: <497CB93B020000C80005FDDA@wpo.cso.niu.edu>

Mike: "Kinda neat this way don't ya think?"

Ya, sooo kool, Mike. KN8AZN's amp doin it FB. 

/6 still blasting a streak on DigiPan display. Your is lighter in intensity but very readable.

TNX test, Mike.
Peter

>>> Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com> 01/25/09 6:55 PM >>>
Moving down to 506.20kc to get further away from that strong station...

Mike
WE0H
/16


From w1tag at charter.net  Sun Jan 25 20:11:19 2009
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:11:19 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in JASON
In-Reply-To: <001601c97f4f$25b56a80$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <001601c97f4f$25b56a80$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <497D0DB7.5080606@charter.net>

JR,

Good copy here, of course. About 4 degrees cooler, too!

JA

jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in JASON .'normal' mode on 508.5 kHz until 0200Z. 

From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sun Jan 25 22:14:03 2009
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (weazle)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:14:03 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] /16 on PSK-31 506.75kc
Message-ID: <497d2a92.6.564.2133877386@hurontel.on.ca>

From: Mike-WE0H <we0h at yahoo.com>
To:<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Lowfer] /16 on PSK-31 506.75kc
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:48:40 -0600

----- Original Message Follows -----
> On the air right now 506.75kc is the signal freq.
> BPSK-31 with a fast CW ID.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16

Hi Mike, Lowfers,

Still nothing here.  It seemed I was getting swamped
by another signal(s) outside of the PSK passband but
powerful enuf to desense my receiver.  Oh well, it
isn't the end of the world.  I'll get it someday!

73, J.B., VE3EAR

From we0h at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 25 22:35:34 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:35:34 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] /16 on PSK-31 506.75kc
In-Reply-To: <497d2a92.6.564.2133877386@hurontel.on.ca>
References: <497d2a92.6.564.2133877386@hurontel.on.ca>
Message-ID: <497D2F86.4000300@yahoo.com>

I heard a lot of complaint's about that high power station tonight.
I'll stay lower in the band to hopefully help out the many people that 
are listening for my PSK signal. I got reports from MN, IA, MI, IN, OH, 
MA, OR, & SC tonight from the guys here and a bunch of others on the 
propnet.org site.

Mike



weazle wrote:
> Hi Mike, Lowfers,
>
> Still nothing here.  It seemed I was getting swamped
> by another signal(s) outside of the PSK passband but
> powerful enuf to desense my receiver.  Oh well, it
> isn't the end of the world.  I'll get it someday!
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR

From wd2xgj at gmail.com  Mon Jan 26 00:26:25 2009
From: wd2xgj at gmail.com (Warren Ziegler)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:26:25 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] W3EEE Not so Live Part 5
Message-ID: <57a24ca70901252126o610dd00bqdc809570fcaed915@mail.gmail.com>

Seems that Steve W3EEE's Part 5 grabber is stuck in time (or is it my
browser cache?)

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

From we0h at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 26 00:30:58 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:30:58 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] W3EEE Not so Live Part 5
In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70901252126o610dd00bqdc809570fcaed915@mail.gmail.com>
References: <57a24ca70901252126o610dd00bqdc809570fcaed915@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497D4A92.7070909@yahoo.com>

That's the long path signal shown on the Grabber...hi hi...

Mike



Warren  wrote:
> Seems that Steve W3EEE's Part 5 grabber is stuck in time (or is it my
> browser cache?)
>   

From sthed475 at telus.net  Mon Jan 26 00:38:40 2009
From: sthed475 at telus.net (Scott Tilley)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:38:40 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] W3EEE Not so Live Part 5
In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70901252126o610dd00bqdc809570fcaed915@mail.gmail.com>
References: <57a24ca70901252126o610dd00bqdc809570fcaed915@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497D4C60.2020503@telus.net>

been stuck for awhile...

Maybe someone needs to poke Steve


Warren Ziegler wrote:
> Seems that Steve W3EEE's Part 5 grabber is stuck in time (or is it my
> browser cache?)
>
>   

From L.Howell at ConocoPhillips.com  Mon Jan 26 00:53:02 2009
From: L.Howell at ConocoPhillips.com (Howell, Laurence (Shanghai/Singapore))
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:53:02 +0800
Subject: [Lowfer] W3EEE Not so Live Part 5
Message-ID: <C523CA6BB607334C90114231C4D477040163A8@tguexmb1.conoco.net>

My China grabber appears locked too. Guess I've been shut out dns wise again.
Sorry it may be a week or two..

Laurence BY3A/KL1X
http://kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg

Presently 9V1LF singapore unexpectedly...
Happy New Year of the Ox..

----- Original Message -----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net <lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Mon Jan 26 13:30:58 2009
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] W3EEE Not so Live Part 5

That's the long path signal shown on the Grabber...hi hi...

Mike



Warren  wrote:
> Seems that Steve W3EEE's Part 5 grabber is stuck in time (or is it my
> browser cache?)
>   
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From ashlockw at hotmail.com  Mon Jan 26 01:38:41 2009
From: ashlockw at hotmail.com (Bill Ashlock)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:38:41 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MP in mountain NH
In-Reply-To: <497D0DB7.5080606@charter.net>
References: <001601c97f4f$25b56a80$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<497D0DB7.5080606@charter.net>
Message-ID: <BLU149-W161AE47EE0B86D11466F25C9CA0@phx.gbl>


Mitch,
 
I took a look at the watering hole last night and your signal was impressive! Also followed it during the day until at least noon when I had to leave the cabin. Nothing tonight but I don't see you on the Grabulator either. Are you sending right now?
 
Bill (back in Andover, MA)
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From stevesykes at rochester.rr.com  Mon Jan 26 05:07:39 2009
From: stevesykes at rochester.rr.com (Steve Sykes)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:07:39 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XR received
Message-ID: <497D8B6B.402@rochester.rr.com>

I finally received XR last night at 2120 EST.  It was quite light, but 
there. I discovered that my Argo cal was 16 Hz off, which is probably 
why I haven't had any luck lately.
Distance is about 630 miles.

Steve W2SES
Victor, NY FN12gx

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Mon Jan 26 07:31:41 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:31:41 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in JASON
References: <001601c97f4f$25b56a80$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<497D0DB7.5080606@charter.net>
Message-ID: <002501c97fb2$0af90d10$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

JA

Thanks for the report. No other takers...

JR


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag at charter.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in JASON


> JR,
> 
> Good copy here, of course. About 4 degrees cooler, too!
> 
> JA
> 
> jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in JASON .'normal' mode on 508.5 kHz until 0200Z. 
> _______________________________________________
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Mon Jan 26 08:34:17 2009
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (J. B. Weazle McCreath)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:34:17 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] The Jammer
References: <000501c97efc$688e89c0$0b01a8c0@weazle>
	<497C9813.2080805@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000001c97fba$cada0460$0b01a8c0@weazle>

Hi Mike, Lowfers,

The same signal that was desensing me last evening is still present
here on Monday morning.  It's a more or less steady carrier on
or near 506.732 kHz. when viewed with Spectron.   It must
be something local, as none of the other guys complained
of it last evening.

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle



From we0h at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 26 08:44:04 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:44:04 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] The Jammer
In-Reply-To: <000001c97fba$cada0460$0b01a8c0@weazle>
References: <000501c97efc$688e89c0$0b01a8c0@weazle>	<497C9813.2080805@yahoo.com>
	<000001c97fba$cada0460$0b01a8c0@weazle>
Message-ID: <497DBE24.5010703@yahoo.com>

Hmmm, birdie. How is 506.20 or lower freq's?

Mike



J. B.  wrote:
> Hi Mike, Lowfers,
>
> The same signal that was desensing me last evening is still present
> here on Monday morning.  It's a more or less steady carrier on
> or near 506.732 kHz. when viewed with Spectron.   It must
> be something local, as none of the other guys complained
> of it last evening.
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
>
> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Mon Jan 26 10:21:36 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:21:36 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] The Jammer
References: <000501c97efc$688e89c0$0b01a8c0@weazle><497C9813.2080805@yahoo.com>
	<000001c97fba$cada0460$0b01a8c0@weazle>
Message-ID: <00b101c97fc9$c77be770$6c01a8c0@DELL4>

So then...it wasn't one of  the 'high power' Part 5 stations causing 
problems after all?

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath" <weazle at hurontel.on.ca>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 8:34 AM
Subject: [Lowfer] The Jammer


> Hi Mike, Lowfers,
>
> The same signal that was desensing me last evening is still present
> here on Monday morning.  It's a more or less steady carrier on
> or near 506.732 kHz. when viewed with Spectron.   It must
> be something local, as none of the other guys complained
> of it last evening.
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
> Solar and wind powered
> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
> EN93dr
>
> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>>From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer 


From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Mon Jan 26 11:13:14 2009
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:13:14 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MP in mountain NH
In-Reply-To: <BLU149-W161AE47EE0B86D11466F25C9CA0@phx.gbl>
References: <001601c97f4f$25b56a80$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<497D0DB7.5080606@charter.net>
	<BLU149-W161AE47EE0B86D11466F25C9CA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP92D65D951B979D246F885CE9CA0@phx.gbl>

>
> I took a look at the watering hole last night and your signal was  
> impressive! Also followed it during the day until at least noon when  
> I had to leave the cabin. Nothing tonight but I don't see you on the  
> Grabulator either. Are you sending right now?
>
> Bill (back in Andover, MA)

Thanks for the report Bill - sorry I was late replying - I was doing  
some NDB listening and shut down for
the evening - and then forgot to switch back on !!!!! I know that is  
frustrating for the guys listening
for a signal - and then wondering if it's their problem or the  
propagation.

We're back on now -

It sounds like you have a nice receiving location in the mountains.

Using an "Ashlock loop" here - E-W orientation -

Thanks agn

Mitch
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 26 11:59:56 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:59:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] XR received
In-Reply-To: <497D8B6B.402@rochester.rr.com>
Message-ID: <252985.62383.qm@web63607.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hey Steve: Thanks for looking for " XR ", I hope you can get a 
decent capture of the signal. If you do, please send it to me
for the record, I would appreciate that. This is my first year
running a LOWfer beacon, and It has been very sucessful I think.
Your report, once verified, will make 15 reception reports since
june of 2008 when I first turned " XR " on. Again, thanks for
looking, and goog LOWfer-ing; 73 for now::

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Mon, 1/26/09, Steve Sykes <stevesykes at rochester.rr.com> wrote:


> I finally received XR last night at 2120 EST.  It was quite
> light, but there. I discovered that my Argo cal was 16 Hz off, 
> which is probably why I haven't had any luck lately.
> Distance is about 630 miles.
> 
> Steve W2SES
> Victor, NY FN12gx



      

From ashlockw at hotmail.com  Mon Jan 26 12:40:43 2009
From: ashlockw at hotmail.com (Bill Ashlock)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:40:43 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MP in mountain NH
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP92D65D951B979D246F885CE9CA0@phx.gbl>
References: <001601c97f4f$25b56a80$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<497D0DB7.5080606@charter.net>
	<BLU149-W161AE47EE0B86D11466F25C9CA0@phx.gbl>
	<BLU0-SMTP92D65D951B979D246F885CE9CA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU149-W39FF8024B4735040BBA599C9CA0@phx.gbl>


Mitch,
 
Good to see you were off the air last night and the problem wasn't with the propagation of your signal..... so it may be a 24/7 copy up there in the winter season. Based on the limited transmitting I've done from that location, my sense is that the poor ground conductivity will not produce stellar communications on 185.3K, so it's simply the low noise (mainly a lack of noisy neighbors :) that makes the area good for receiving. The measured Rac values are lower compared to the same TX loop down here, but my theory is that good ground conductivity over wavelengths worth of surrounding territory is more responsible for radiating a good signal - and the conductivity should apply to receiving as well.
 
I'm about to test this idea with my first E/W pointing TX loop, although playing Robin Hood in the woods is all but impossible with knee-deep (+) snow (to become waist-deep on Wed). But look for some of the old 'Wm's come next weekend, should I be successful.
 
Will be staying in touch...
 
Bill



From: mitch.powell at sympatico.caTo: lowfer at mailman.qth.netDate: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:13:14 -0500Subject: Re: [Lowfer] MP in mountain NH


I took a look at the watering hole last night and your signal was impressive! Also followed it during the day until at least noon when I had to leave the cabin. Nothing tonight but I don't see you on the Grabulator either. Are you sending right now? Bill (back in Andover, MA)
Thanks for the report Bill - sorry I was late replying - I was doing some NDB listening and shut down for
the evening - and then forgot to switch back on !!!!! I know that is frustrating for the guys listening
for a signal - and then wondering if it's their problem or the propagation.

We're back on now - 

It sounds like you have a nice receiving location in the mountains.

Using an "Ashlock loop" here - E-W orientation - 

Thanks agn

Mitch
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From we0h at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 26 14:27:55 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:27:55 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] The Jammer
In-Reply-To: <00b101c97fc9$c77be770$6c01a8c0@DELL4>
References: <000501c97efc$688e89c0$0b01a8c0@weazle><497C9813.2080805@yahoo.com>	<000001c97fba$cada0460$0b01a8c0@weazle>
	<00b101c97fc9$c77be770$6c01a8c0@DELL4>
Message-ID: <497E0EBB.7080401@yahoo.com>

That's good. Your /2 signal is never way strong but the /6 signal is 
alway 12 db stronger than your kilowatt. That is the only signal that is 
tough to work around for some and is the signal many mentioned last 
night as causing issues for receiving in the band up higher. Oh well, 
you guys are nice people having fun on the band. I fixed my rig with a 
tight IF filter so no trouble working others in the band now. Others 
will have to buy good IF filters I guess.

I'll quit complaining or mentioning anything related to high power 
stations on the Part 5 bands for now on. Sorry to upset you guys.

Mike
WE0H
/16



jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
> So then...it wasn't one of  the 'high power' Part 5 stations causing 
> problems after all?
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath"
>
>
>   
>> Hi Mike, Lowfers,
>>
>> The same signal that was desensing me last evening is still present
>> here on Monday morning.  It's a more or less steady carrier on
>> or near 506.732 kHz. when viewed with Spectron.   It must
>> be something local, as none of the other guys complained
>> of it last evening.
>>
>> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
>> Solar and wind powered
>> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
>> EN93dr
>>
>> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Mon Jan 26 17:34:20 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:34:20 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] The Jammer
References: <000501c97efc$688e89c0$0b01a8c0@weazle><497C9813.2080805@yahoo.com>	<000001c97fba$cada0460$0b01a8c0@weazle><00b101c97fc9$c77be770$6c01a8c0@DELL4>
	<497E0EBB.7080401@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003901c98006$3b631c80$6c01a8c0@DELL4>

Mike

Not upset...just think we should be accurate in our reporting.

XGR/6 is running about 3 dB more power than I am - not 12 dB more power. 
Guess that you probably meant to say that he's 12 dB stronger at your 
location.

XGR/6 is amazingly strong at my location - we're only a couple hundred miles 
apart. I'm able to receive any mode, anywhere in the band (with appropriate 
frequency separation) with no problem using a modestly outfitted R-75. I've 
heard a complaint or two from some using old military or other old receivers 
that lack modern day selectivity. What's interesting is that these same 
receivers would be virtually unusable on a busy HF band as well. No one 
expects the HF operators to QRP or spread out to accommodate these 
receivers.

Jay




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike-WE0H" <we0h at yahoo.com>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] The Jammer


> That's good. Your /2 signal is never way strong but the /6 signal is
> alway 12 db stronger than your kilowatt. That is the only signal that is
> tough to work around for some and is the signal many mentioned last
> night as causing issues for receiving in the band up higher. Oh well,
> you guys are nice people having fun on the band. I fixed my rig with a
> tight IF filter so no trouble working others in the band now. Others
> will have to buy good IF filters I guess.
>
> I'll quit complaining or mentioning anything related to high power
> stations on the Part 5 bands for now on. Sorry to upset you guys.
>
> Mike
> WE0H
> /16
>
>
>
> jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
>> So then...it wasn't one of  the 'high power' Part 5 stations causing
>> problems after all?
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "J. B. Weazle McCreath"
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi Mike, Lowfers,
>>>
>>> The same signal that was desensing me last evening is still present
>>> here on Monday morning.  It's a more or less steady carrier on
>>> or near 506.732 kHz. when viewed with Spectron.   It must
>>> be something local, as none of the other guys complained
>>> of it last evening.
>>>
>>> 73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
>>> Solar and wind powered
>>> Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
>>> EN93dr
>>>
>>> http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle
> _______________________________________________
>>From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer 


From we0h at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 26 18:02:22 2009
From: we0h at yahoo.com (Mike-WE0H)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:02:22 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] The Jammer
In-Reply-To: <003901c98006$3b631c80$6c01a8c0@DELL4>
References: <000501c97efc$688e89c0$0b01a8c0@weazle><497C9813.2080805@yahoo.com>	<000001c97fba$cada0460$0b01a8c0@weazle><00b101c97fc9$c77be770$6c01a8c0@DELL4>	<497E0EBB.7080401@yahoo.com>
	<003901c98006$3b631c80$6c01a8c0@DELL4>
Message-ID: <497E40FE.7080403@yahoo.com>

Yea 12db more signal on my meter...hi hi...I don't recall what equipment 
others are using. I know my '930 was wide until I installed a tight 
first IF filter. I have plans to install a tight 2nd IF filter as well 
to see how steep the slopes get. Not really needed now but I have never 
owned a rig with both 1st & 2nd IF filters in place. Heard you in there 
a little bit last night on SSB. The NDB carrier on 510 is quite loud 
here so I had to mess with filtering which messed up the audio a bit.

73
Mike


Jay wrote:
> Mike
>
> Not upset...just think we should be accurate in our reporting.
>
> XGR/6 is running about 3 dB more power than I am - not 12 dB more power. 
> Guess that you probably meant to say that he's 12 dB stronger at your 
> location.
>
> XGR/6 is amazingly strong at my location - we're only a couple hundred miles 
> apart. I'm able to receive any mode, anywhere in the band (with appropriate 
> frequency separation) with no problem using a modestly outfitted R-75. I've 
> heard a complaint or two from some using old military or other old receivers 
> that lack modern day selectivity. What's interesting is that these same 
> receivers would be virtually unusable on a busy HF band as well. No one 
> expects the HF operators to QRP or spread out to accommodate these 
> receivers.
>
> Jay

From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Mon Jan 26 19:18:08 2009
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:18:08 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MP in mountain NH
In-Reply-To: <BLU149-W39FF8024B4735040BBA599C9CA0@phx.gbl>
References: <001601c97f4f$25b56a80$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<497D0DB7.5080606@charter.net>
	<BLU149-W161AE47EE0B86D11466F25C9CA0@phx.gbl>
	<BLU0-SMTP92D65D951B979D246F885CE9CA0@phx.gbl>
	<BLU149-W39FF8024B4735040BBA599C9CA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP857E8D8395E915A7882EF2E9CB0@phx.gbl>

>
>
> I'm about to test this idea with my first E/W pointing TX loop,  
> although playing Robin Hood in the woods is all but impossible with  
> knee-deep (+) snow (to become waist-deep on Wed). But look for some  
> of the old 'Wm's come next weekend, should I be successful.


That's good news - I will be looking forward to giving you some  
captures.

Remember - Antenna work is always best done with freezing fingertips,  
snow-filled
boots and howling winds...   It's definitely someone's LAW !

See you later

Mitch
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 26 23:27:20 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:27:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] MP in mountain NH
In-Reply-To: <BLU149-W39FF8024B4735040BBA599C9CA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <156286.63462.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 1/26/09, Bill Ashlock <ashlockw at hotmail.com> wrote:

> but my theory is that good ground conductivity over wavelengths
> worth of surrounding territory is more responsible for
> radiating a good signal - and the conductivity should apply
> to receiving as well.

Interesting theory Bill; with merit to I believe. ie; which signal
would travel farther ? 1500 miles over open water, or 1500 miles
over typical land mass ?



Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Mon, 1/26/09, Bill Ashlock <ashlockw at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Bill Ashlock <ashlockw at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] MP in mountain NH
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 12:40 PM
> Mitch,
>  
> Good to see you were off the air last night and the problem
> wasn't with the propagation of your signal..... so it
> may be a 24/7 copy up there in the winter season. Based on
> the limited transmitting I've done from that location,
> my sense is that the poor ground conductivity will not
> produce stellar communications on 185.3K, so it's simply
> the low noise (mainly a lack of noisy neighbors :) that
> makes the area good for receiving. The measured Rac values
> are lower compared to the same TX loop down here, but my
> theory is that good ground conductivity over wavelengths
> worth of surrounding territory is more responsible for
> radiating a good signal - and the conductivity should apply
> to receiving as well.
>  
> I'm about to test this idea with my first E/W pointing
> TX loop, although playing Robin Hood in the woods is all but
> impossible with knee-deep (+) snow (to become waist-deep on
> Wed). But look for some of the old 'Wm's come next
> weekend, should I be successful.
>  
> Will be staying in touch...
>  
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
> From: mitch.powell at sympatico.caTo:
> lowfer at mailman.qth.netDate: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:13:14
> -0500Subject: Re: [Lowfer] MP in mountain NH
> 
> 
> I took a look at the watering hole last night and your
> signal was impressive! Also followed it during the day until
> at least noon when I had to leave the cabin. Nothing tonight
> but I don't see you on the Grabulator either. Are you
> sending right now? Bill (back in Andover, MA)
> Thanks for the report Bill - sorry I was late replying - I
> was doing some NDB listening and shut down for
> the evening - and then forgot to switch back on !!!!! I
> know that is frustrating for the guys listening
> for a signal - and then wondering if it's their problem
> or the propagation.
> 
> We're back on now - 
> 
> It sounds like you have a nice receiving location in the
> mountains.
> 
> Using an "Ashlock loop" here - E-W orientation - 
> 
> Thanks agn
> 
> Mitch_______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Tue Jan 27 11:58:49 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:58:49 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode
Message-ID: <002f01c980a0$86b102c0$6c01a8c0@DELL4>

WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in WSPR mode tonight starting 2200Z on a dial 
frequency of 507.000 kHz.

Software for this mode can be downloaded at 
http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ .

Reports are appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


From wd2xgj at gmail.com  Tue Jan 27 12:36:13 2009
From: wd2xgj at gmail.com (Warren Ziegler)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:36:13 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WNE 5kW on 500kHz and 472 kHz
Message-ID: <57a24ca70901270936w681bf2c8q5386c43ea40d640b@mail.gmail.com>

>From the RSGB list courtesy of Dave Riley...

NEWS FLASH
The NEHRS,Inc. has been granted by the FCC the call letter WNE for MF
CW operation on 472 KHz and 500 KHz at a maximum power of 5000 watts.
Hope some of you guys get your T2 license to run the station after
construction. As soon as the snow melts and temperatures rise a bit the
large vertical will be errected. My QTH can only be temporary so we
must find a permanent home ASAP.

73, Steve

WA1HUD

President NEHRS, Inc.

http://nehrs.net/default.aspx

73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ
WD2XSH/23
WE2XEB/2
WE2XGR/1


Jan

From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Tue Jan 27 17:07:00 2009
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:07:00 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode
In-Reply-To: <002f01c980a0$86b102c0$6c01a8c0@DELL4>
References: <002f01c980a0$86b102c0$6c01a8c0@DELL4>
Message-ID: <2f80819e0901271407m315600a8nd861fb178f4e5324@mail.gmail.com>

Copy hr in MD FM19
de Lloyd W3NF and if you go to

http://wsprnet.org/meptspots.php?mode=html&band=2190&limit=50&findcall=&findreporter=&sort=date

you can see the spots


090127 2142   9 -22  0.8   0.508521  WE2XGR FN31 57          0 14527   29
090127 2146  20 -10  0.8   0.508521  WE2XGR FN31 57          0     1    0
090127 2148  15 -15  0.8   0.508521  WE2XGR FN31 57          0     1    0
090127 2152  13 -18  0.8   0.508510  WE2XGR FN31 57          0     1    0
090127 2154  21 -10  0.9   0.508510  WE2XGR FN31 57          0     1    0
090127 2156  32   0  0.9   0.508510  WE2XGR FN31 57          0     1    0
090127 2158  33   1  0.8   0.508510  WE2XGR FN31 57          0     1    0
090127 2202  40   8  0.8   0.508510  WE2XGR FN31 57          0     1    0

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:58 PM,  <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:
> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in WSPR mode tonight starting 2200Z on a dial
> frequency of 507.000 kHz.
>
> Software for this mode can be downloaded at
> http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ .
>
> Reports are appreciated.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
> _______________________________________________
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 27 19:35:10 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:35:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/6 WSPR capture uploaded to My Space page
Message-ID: <801301.41920.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Jay had a great signal here in TN. tonite

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      

From wd2xgj at gmail.com  Tue Jan 27 19:49:39 2009
From: wd2xgj at gmail.com (Warren Ziegler)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:49:39 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/6 WSPR capture uploaded to My Space page
In-Reply-To: <801301.41920.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <801301.41920.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <57a24ca70901271649y4bef2f71gf6439f843ec3c1d9@mail.gmail.com>

WE2XGR/6 ?
I didn't think that Bob was doing digital modes ...
-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1




On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Jay had a great signal here in TN. tonite
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
> Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
> http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 27 20:13:01 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:13:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 ( not /6 ) WSPR capture uploaded to My Space
	page
In-Reply-To: <57a24ca70901271649y4bef2f71gf6439f843ec3c1d9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <233612.52021.qm@web63608.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

I don,t know why Warren, but I do that everytime !! XGR/2

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Tue, 1/27/09, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/6 WSPR capture uploaded to My Space page
> To: ku4xr at yahoo.com, "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &, UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 7:49 PM
> WE2XGR/6 ?
> I didn't think that Bob was doing digital modes ...
> -- 
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                 WD2XGJ
>                 WD2XSH/23
>                 WE2XEB/2
>                 WE2XGR/1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Andy - KU4XR
> <ku4xr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Jay had a great signal here in TN. tonite
> >
> > Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
> > LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60
> )
> > Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84*
> 3' 16"
> > http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > >From the Lowfer mailing list
> > Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> > To sub/unsub visit:
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
> >


      

From cvest at cox.net  Tue Jan 27 21:27:08 2009
From: cvest at cox.net (Charles W5COV)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:27:08 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] CV ICED UP
References: <57a24ca70901270936w681bf2c8q5386c43ea40d640b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B616693A31A54DF89911779A8399337C@gateway>

As the major winter storm is finishing in this area and moving on east , the 
antenna for CV has significant icing and is not loading very well tonight .

I hope this storm misses everyone else . The road conditions here are 
terrible , at best .

73 ,

Charlie ,

CV , 185.2983 kHz ., QRSS60 , 24 / 7 , EM26ex , OK. 


From gerfmon at mesanetworks.net  Tue Jan 27 21:47:43 2009
From: gerfmon at mesanetworks.net (Jerry Sharp)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:47:43 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] CV ICED UP
In-Reply-To: <B616693A31A54DF89911779A8399337C@gateway>
References: <57a24ca70901270936w681bf2c8q5386c43ea40d640b@mail.gmail.com>
	<B616693A31A54DF89911779A8399337C@gateway>
Message-ID: <497FC74F.5080001@mesanetworks.net>

Iced-up or not Charlie, I'm still getting a decent copy on you tonight 
in Colorado. Your signal is up and down, sometimes fading up to a nice 
copy, sometimes fading completely away on Argo. MP has a very good signal.

73,
Jerry Sharp, KD0GS
Longmont, CO
DN70ke

Charles W5COV wrote:
> As the major winter storm is finishing in this area and moving on east , the 
> antenna for CV has significant icing and is not loading very well tonight .
> 
> I hope this storm misses everyone else . The road conditions here are 
> terrible , at best .
> 
> 73 ,
> 
> Charlie ,
> 
> CV , 185.2983 kHz ., QRSS60 , 24 / 7 , EM26ex , OK. 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From jgibbs at infoserve.net  Tue Jan 27 23:48:29 2009
From: jgibbs at infoserve.net (John Gibbs)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:48:29 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR
Message-ID: <497FE39D.204@infoserve.net>

Just started to get decodes now.... 


090128 0440   3 -26  0.6   0.508509  WE2XGR FN31 57          0  5262    0
090128 0442   6 -24  0.9   0.508509  WE2XGR FN31 57          0     1    0

73  John /  VE7BDQ  CN89LA



From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Wed Jan 28 07:15:54 2009
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (J. B. Weazle McCreath)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:15:54 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode
References: <002201c980a0$29131950$6c01a8c0@DELL4>
Message-ID: <000201c98142$2cb42d40$0b01a8c0@weazle>

Hi Jay, Lowfers,

Here's my copy of your WSPR sigs last evening.  I had to tweak the
time a few seconds (I'm locked with NRC in Ottawa), but once I'd
done that you where solid.

090128 0150   4  -3  -3.7   0.508523                 
090128 0154   4   1  -3.7   0.508523                 
090128 0158   2  -5  -3.7   0.508523                 
090128 0306   8   1  -1.7   0.508523  WE2XGR FN31 57 
090128 0310   7   5  -1.2   0.508523  WE2XGR FN31 57 
090128 0314   9  -4  -1.4   0.508523  WE2XGR FN31 57

73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL
Solar and wind powered
Lowfer " EAR"  188.830
EN93dr

http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle



From wa3usg at verizon.net  Wed Jan 28 08:47:39 2009
From: wa3usg at verizon.net (Richard Goodman)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:47:39 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] " XR " QSL card list - are you on it ??
In-Reply-To: <354416.44541.qm@web63601.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <LBENKNHPADCIMLPCBOKNAEJJDNAA.wa3usg@verizon.net>

Andy,

   Thanks for the QSL card! I've been fairly silent but still monitoring the
forum (and of course L.F.). Lately I've been listening to the broadcast
station from Iceland on 189 KHz. They really play some great oldies!

73
Dick, WA3USG
Mechanicsburg, PA.


-----Original Message-----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Andy - KU4XR
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 11:07 AM
To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Lowfer] " XR " QSL card list - are you on it ??


Hey Everyone:

Sending out 14 QSL's today from the reception reports I've received
since June 2008 when I put " XR " on the air. Question is; did you
send me a report that I have overlooked ?? I would like to get a card
out to everyone who sent me a report ( with capture hopefully ).
Here's the list, and If you're not on it, let me know;

Mitch Powell
Neil Dodson
Peter Barrick
Garry Hess
Roger Magnuson
Jerry Sharp
Lloyd Chastant
Doug Williams
Bryan Dennis
Jay Rusgrove
Jim McClanahan
Dexter McIntyre
Mark Burton
Dick Goodman

Thanks to everyone who has sent reports, 73 for now !!



Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr



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From cqkg8co at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 28 09:14:27 2009
From: cqkg8co at yahoo.com (Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:14:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Spectran Question
Message-ID: <194712.78963.qm@web38504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

While using Spectran, I notice ghosting of signals ... here is what I mean.

Last night I was copying "MP".  MP is transmitting on 185.301.

However, on the Spectran screen, I see the MP signal on 183.308 and 185.296 at the same time.  Am I over loading Spectran or the receiver?

I am using a Yaesu FT-1000MP with a LF Engineering Pre-Amp and a K9AY listening loop.

Any suggestions would be helpful.


Thank you


Brian, KG8CO


      

From wd2xgj at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 09:23:31 2009
From: wd2xgj at gmail.com (Warren Ziegler)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:23:31 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Spectran Question
In-Reply-To: <194712.78963.qm@web38504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <194712.78963.qm@web38504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <57a24ca70901280623v705ed36cr6dad12d56b2b4234@mail.gmail.com>

Brian,

    From what you describe it would appear to be overloading the sound
card (too much audio). Try an attenuator to back off the levels.

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO
<cqkg8co at yahoo.com> wrote:
> While using Spectran, I notice ghosting of signals ... here is what I mean.
>
> Last night I was copying "MP".  MP is transmitting on 185.301.
>
> However, on the Spectran screen, I see the MP signal on 183.308 and 185.296 at the same time.  Am I over loading Spectran or the receiver?
>
> I am using a Yaesu FT-1000MP with a LF Engineering Pre-Amp and a K9AY listening loop.
>
> Any suggestions would be helpful.
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Brian, KG8CO
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
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From L.Howell at conocophillips.com  Wed Jan 28 09:31:10 2009
From: L.Howell at conocophillips.com (Howell, Laurence (Shanghai/Singapore))
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:31:10 +0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Spectran Question
Message-ID: <C523CA6BB607334C90114231C4D477040163F1@tguexmb1.conoco.net>

If you've got the noise blanker on try turning it off...

Laurence in 9V

----- Original Message -----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net <lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
To: cqkg8co at yahoo.com <cqkg8co at yahoo.com>; Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp,UK) and MedFer bands <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wed Jan 28 22:23:31 2009
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Spectran Question

Brian,

    From what you describe it would appear to be overloading the sound
card (too much audio). Try an attenuator to back off the levels.

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO
<cqkg8co at yahoo.com> wrote:
> While using Spectran, I notice ghosting of signals ... here is what I mean.
>
> Last night I was copying "MP".  MP is transmitting on 185.301.
>
> However, on the Spectran screen, I see the MP signal on 183.308 and 185.296 at the same time.  Am I over loading Spectran or the receiver?
>
> I am using a Yaesu FT-1000MP with a LF Engineering Pre-Amp and a K9AY listening loop.
>
> Any suggestions would be helpful.
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Brian, KG8CO
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
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>
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From pbarick at niu.edu  Wed Jan 28 09:43:51 2009
From: pbarick at niu.edu (Peter Barick)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:43:51 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Spectran Question
Message-ID: <49801AC7020000C800060479@wpo.cso.niu.edu>

Brian, Warren,

Ha, I just put down the calculator to check the sum/difs when Warren posted. Nothing stood out.

Brian, I'm fimiliar w/ Argo, not Spectran, however, and Agro features a signal level bar on the R-side of screen. I have mine set for half scale response.

Lacking such on Spectran (?) you may try to divide the input to sound card via a V-res, say 10K, across the audio line. Then set it to half scale and power up the equipment, looking for MP. Further test the display of MP varying the restance and checking for the"double image."

Peter
-------------------------------------------
>>> Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj at gmail.com> 01/28/09 8:23 AM >>>
Brian,

    From what you describe it would appear to be overloading the sound
card (too much audio). Try an attenuator to back off the levels.

-- 
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO
<cqkg8co at yahoo.com> wrote:
> While using Spectran, I notice ghosting of signals ... here is what I mean.
<...>

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 28 13:32:03 2009
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:32:03 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon report from EN52
Message-ID: <4980A4A3.6020101@sbcglobal.net>

This morning around 0800Z, 1/28/09 Lowfer beacons WEB, MP, COV, XR, WMS, 
and EAR were all doing fine to NE Illinois, but nothing was heard from 
beacon SJ, nor was TAG decoded.

73,
Garry, K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 28 13:45:08 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:45:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon report from EN52
In-Reply-To: <4980A4A3.6020101@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <216666.31483.qm@web63602.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Thanks for your reports Garry, they are an encouragement to the
beacon OPs. 73 to you, and Good LOWfer-ing:

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


--- On Wed, 1/28/09, Garry and Linda Hess <k3siw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> From: Garry and Linda Hess <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon report from EN52
> To: "lowfer mailing list" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 1:32 PM
> This morning around 0800Z, 1/28/09 Lowfer beacons WEB, MP,
> COV, XR, WMS, 
> and EAR were all doing fine to NE Illinois, but nothing was
> heard from 
> beacon SJ, nor was TAG decoded.
> 
> 73,
> Garry, K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL
> _______________________________________________
> >From the Lowfer mailing list
> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
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> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer


      

From ashlockw at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 28 16:09:38 2009
From: ashlockw at hotmail.com (Bill Ashlock)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:09:38 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode
In-Reply-To: <002f01c980a0$86b102c0$6c01a8c0@DELL4>
References: <002f01c980a0$86b102c0$6c01a8c0@DELL4>
Message-ID: <BLU149-W602B14DE38AE4E65A8F951C9C80@phx.gbl>


Hi Jay,
 
Good show on the success of the new mode! I was doing some reading on WSPR per your URL below and it seemed to indicate a SSB transceiver is needed. Now I'm wondering if the SSB requirement may be only for receiving and a linear final may not be needed for transmitting. What's the truth sir?
 
Bill > From: jrusgrove at comcast.net> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net; SHMRG at piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:58:49 -0500> Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode> > WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in WSPR mode tonight starting 2200Z on a dial > frequency of 507.000 kHz.> > Software for this mode can be downloaded at > http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ .> > Reports are appreciated.> > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2> > _______________________________________________> >From the Lowfer mailing list> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
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From alan.melia at btinternet.com  Wed Jan 28 14:19:41 2009
From: alan.melia at btinternet.com (Alan Melia)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:19:41 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Spectran Question
Message-ID: <004401c98196$d14afd80$0900a8c0@AM>

Peter it isn't sufficient to just do summs and diffs on the declared
frequencies you also need to conside a 2nd harmonic folding back round the
sampling frequency. I would say you are definitely overloading the sound
card. If you are using a laptop and the "mic" input there may be AGC on that
input which does not help.

You must bear in mind that the sound card has a very large dynamic range but
you need to set the input level so low you will not be able to hear the
signals in the speakers to make best use of this. Ideally the noise should
be set to about  -100dB. There may also be signals outside the Spectran
range....maybe a local NDB of a local MW BC station. In which case there may
be some contribution from the receiver. Most amateur receivers do not
perform terribly well on LF frequencies, many have attenuation to reduce the
IMDs from strong BC stations.

If it is and intermod product there is a check you can do. Reduce the
level...the product should fade more rapidly than the real components.

Cheers de Alan G3NYK










From w1tag at charter.net  Wed Jan 28 18:53:49 2009
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:53:49 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode
In-Reply-To: <BLU149-W602B14DE38AE4E65A8F951C9C80@phx.gbl>
References: <002f01c980a0$86b102c0$6c01a8c0@DELL4>
	<BLU149-W602B14DE38AE4E65A8F951C9C80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4980F00D.4090809@charter.net>

Bill,

> Now I'm wondering if the SSB requirement may be only for 
> receiving and a linear final may not be needed for transmitting.

An SSB exciter would be needed to translate the sound card audio up to 
the desired radio frequency. But since WSPR works by frequency shift 
keying, and only one tone is present at a time, linear amplification is 
not required once the RF signal is created.

Actually, for this mode you could dispense with SSB generator if you 
could program a DDS chip to do the proper shifts in the right sequence.

John A.

From cqkg8co at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 28 20:41:52 2009
From: cqkg8co at yahoo.com (Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:41:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Spectran Question Part II
Message-ID: <726583.84469.qm@web38501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I changed the sound card input from the mic to the line level input and reduced the input signal, and still had the same issue.

I ended up switching to Argo and the problem went away, though I am not sure why.

Thank you


Brian, KG8CO


      

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 28 21:15:50 2009
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:15:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Latest Capture of beacon " XR "
Message-ID: <246739.3785.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Greetings LOWfers:

Steve Sykes - W2SES in Victor, NY. sent me a capture of 
" XR " as received from his QTH. I have it uploaded to
the reception reports album on My Space.
73 to all, and keep sending out those reports / captures.


Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN.
LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz ( QRSS-60 )
Coordinates:  N:  35* 43' 54" - W:  84* 3' 16"
http://www.myspace.com/beaconxr


      

From cvest at cox.net  Wed Jan 28 21:38:56 2009
From: cvest at cox.net (Charles W5COV)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:38:56 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Latest Capture of beacon " XR "
References: <246739.3785.qm@web63603.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <094468417A9945DA924C16DED7667E46@gateway>

Congratulations Andy !! The band is looking good tonight . I am seeing CV on 
the W3EEE grabulator .

Charlie , W5COV

CV , 185.2983 kHz . , QRSS60 , 24 /7 , EM26ex , OK. 


From ashlockw at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 28 23:08:44 2009
From: ashlockw at hotmail.com (Bill Ashlock)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:08:44 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode
In-Reply-To: <4980F00D.4090809@charter.net>
References: <002f01c980a0$86b102c0$6c01a8c0@DELL4>
	<BLU149-W602B14DE38AE4E65A8F951C9C80@phx.gbl>
	<4980F00D.4090809@charter.net>
Message-ID: <BLU149-W19610518BC7DB196AF7A90C9C90@phx.gbl>


Thanks John,
 
Very interesting modulation mode as well as the structure already in place for WSPR transmissions. Since my original query I downloaded the following: http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/WSPR_mode.pdf and found it to be helpful in understanding how it works.
 
Has anyone tried WSPR on the 1750M Lowfer band? The 30 KHz available (minus the space taken up by the broadcast stations) should allow for 100s of 5.9Hz wide frequency allocations. The slower QSB rates might be an even better match for the modulation characteristics. 
 
Bill> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:53:49 -0500> From: w1tag at charter.net> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode> > Bill,> > > Now I'm wondering if the SSB requirement may be only for > > receiving and a linear final may not be needed for transmitting.> > An SSB exciter would be needed to translate the sound card audio up to > the desired radio frequency. But since WSPR works by frequency shift > keying, and only one tone is present at a time, linear amplification is > not required once the RF signal is created.> > Actually, for this mode you could dispense with SSB generator if you > could program a DDS chip to do the proper shifts in the right sequence.> > John A.> _______________________________________________> >From the Lowfer mailing list> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
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From L.Howell at conocophillips.com  Wed Jan 28 23:23:50 2009
From: L.Howell at conocophillips.com (Howell, Laurence (Shanghai/Singapore))
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:23:50 +0800
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode
Message-ID: <C523CA6BB607334C90114231C4D477040163FA@tguexmb1.conoco.net>

Prog WSPR standalone - Think DL6NL and others have already done this for their qrpp whisper 30m and other band units. Ill see if I can find the emails.

Laurence 9V1 LF 

----- Original Message -----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net <lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thu Jan 29 07:53:49 2009
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode

Bill,

> Now I'm wondering if the SSB requirement may be only for 
> receiving and a linear final may not be needed for transmitting.

An SSB exciter would be needed to translate the sound card audio up to 
the desired radio frequency. But since WSPR works by frequency shift 
keying, and only one tone is present at a time, linear amplification is 
not required once the RF signal is created.

Actually, for this mode you could dispense with SSB generator if you 
could program a DDS chip to do the proper shifts in the right sequence.

John A.
_______________________________________________
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Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
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From jh.bodin at telia.com  Thu Jan 29 03:49:37 2009
From: jh.bodin at telia.com (Johan H. Bodin)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:49:37 +0100
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode
In-Reply-To: <C523CA6BB607334C90114231C4D477040163FA@tguexmb1.conoco.net>
References: <C523CA6BB607334C90114231C4D477040163FA@tguexmb1.conoco.net>
Message-ID: <49816DA1.3080406@telia.com>

Bill, John, Laurence,

Howell, Laurence (Shanghai/Singapore) wrote:
> Prog WSPR standalone - Think DL6NL and others have already
> done this for their qrpp whisper 30m and other band units.
> Ill see if I can find the emails.

DL6NL is using this WSPR stand-alone beacon controller:

  http://web.telia.com/~u33233109/

It is in the file mjb002.zip. It can be used with either a VCXO or a DDS.

Freeware, it runs on a PIC16F628.


73
Johan SM6LKM

From wa3usg at verizon.net  Thu Jan 29 06:58:26 2009
From: wa3usg at verizon.net (Richard Goodman)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:58:26 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer CV copied in Mechanicsburg, Pa.
Message-ID: <LBENKNHPADCIMLPCBOKNCEJPDNAA.wa3usg@verizon.net>

Charlie,

   If you're antenna is still iced up, keep the ice on it man! Good copy in
Mechanicsburg, PA. (FN10LE) in the wee hours of the morning. I calculate the
distance as 770 miles.

	http://mysite.verizon.net/wa3usg/Lowfer_CV.jpg

73
Dick Goodman, WA3USG
Mechanicsburg, PA.


From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 29 10:57:27 2009
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:57:27 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG decodes
Message-ID: <4981D1E7.5000303@sbcglobal.net>


Beacon TAG on 185.8 kHz Wolf-10 was into NE Illlinois pretty good 
overnight. The following decode history (edited) was generated:

2009-01-29 06:09:53 >WOLF10  -r 10800.689 -f 399.92 -t 2.0 -w 0.0000 -ut
06:10:17 f: 0.080 a: 0.2 dp: 80.2 ci:13 cj:445 Q0DESLHRG7A*2JY ?
06:10:41 f: 0.080 a: 0.2 dp: 81.4 ci:13 cj:445 1Z/O12D3BP25??? ?
06:11:29 f: 0.080 a: 0.3 dp: 81.9 ci:11 cj:285 XA13YX/3AWF7V8N ?
06:13:05 f: 0.879 pm:0.832 jm:283 q:-11.8 -6.9 KD0FUMWQLJ1X2.W ?
...
06:21:05 f: 0.000 pm:4.161 jm:839 q: -4.3-10.4 MHA*BOMLR1HIDPI ?
06:22:41 f: 0.000 pm:4.290 jm:839 q: -3.9 -5.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:24:17 f: 0.000 pm:4.350 jm:839 q: -3.6 -5.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:25:53 f: 0.000 pm:4.375 jm:839 q: -3.3 -5.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:27:29 f: 0.000 pm:4.512 jm:839 q: -3.2 -5.8 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
06:29:05 f: 0.000 pm:4.626 jm:839 q: -3.0 -8.6 TAG RG???K4LYCA ?
06:30:41 f: 0.000 pm:4.650 jm:839 q: -3.1 -8.1 8.9VASJ1IQPTNZU ?
...
2009-01-29 07:02:50 >WOLF10  -r 10800.689 -f 399.92 -t 2.0 -w 0.0000 -ut
07:03:14 f: 0.081 a: 0.2 dp: 83.5 ci: 0 cj:198 FS4 OXLQTGR96CM ?
07:03:38 f: 0.080 a: 0.3 dp: 83.4 ci:12 cj:302 LA8NCXY9E/V89OB ?
07:04:26 f: 0.080 a: 0.3 dp: 83.4 ci:11 cj:220 K*LMG0.I/VZ1H.J ?
07:06:02 f: 1.230 pm:1.484 jm:951 q:-13.3 -8.2 V.H91KC*/MEBF8B ?
...
07:41:14 f:-0.029 pm:10.72 jm:749 q: -2.4 -7.6  *1Z II*9N*./LG ?
07:42:50 f:-0.029 pm:11.39 jm:749 q: -2.0 -5.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
07:44:26 f:-0.029 pm:11.68 jm:749 q: -1.8 -5.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
07:46:02 f:-0.029 pm:11.85 jm:749 q: -1.3 -4.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
07:47:38 f:-0.029 pm:12.85 jm:749 q: -0.5 -3.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
07:49:14 f:-0.029 pm:14.65 jm:749 q: -0.3 -3.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
07:50:50 f:-0.029 pm:16.01 jm:749 q: -0.1 -2.9 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
07:52:26 f:-0.029 pm:17.61 jm:749 q:  0.0 -2.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
07:54:02 f:-0.029 pm:19.68 jm:749 q:  0.4 -2.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
07:55:38 f:-0.029 pm:21.74 jm:749 q:  0.9 -1.8 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
2009-01-29 07:55:47 >WOLF10  -r 10800.689 -f 399.92 -t 2.0 -w 0.0000 -ut
07:56:11 f: 0.080 a: 0.2 dp: 84.9 ci: 1 cj:  0 9Q5U*NIW3B7KD82 ?
07:56:35 f: 0.080 a: 0.2 dp: 84.4 ci: 1 cj:  0 VW9N/GJMDTA4 WY ?
07:57:23 f: 0.080 a: 0.2 dp: 84.0 ci: 5 cj:431 3YPZ528QV/7Q MZ ?
07:58:59 f:-0.029 pm:1.417 jm:662 q: -5.8 -4.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:00:35 f:-0.029 pm:3.023 jm:662 q: -2.7 -2.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:02:11 f:-0.029 pm:4.315 jm:662 q: -2.2 -1.8 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:03:47 f:-0.029 pm:5.816 jm:662 q: -1.4 -1.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:05:23 f:-0.029 pm:7.805 jm:662 q: -0.3 -1.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:06:59 f:-0.029 pm:8.781 jm:662 q:  0.2 -0.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:08:35 f:-0.029 pm:9.175 jm:662 q:  1.0 -0.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:10:11 f:-0.029 pm:9.828 jm:662 q:  1.2 -0.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:11:47 f:-0.029 pm:10.26 jm:662 q:  1.4 -0.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:13:23 f:-0.029 pm:11.54 jm:662 q:  1.7 -0.9 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:14:59 f:-0.029 pm:13.02 jm:662 q:  2.1 -0.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:16:35 f:-0.029 pm:13.34 jm:662 q:  1.9 -0.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:18:11 f:-0.029 pm:13.91 jm:662 q:  2.1 -0.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:19:47 f:-0.029 pm:14.12 jm:662 q:  2.2 -0.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:21:23 f:-0.029 pm:14.48 jm:662 q:  2.5 -0.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:22:59 f:-0.029 pm:14.62 jm:662 q:  2.4 -0.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:24:35 f:-0.029 pm:14.91 jm:662 q:  2.2 -0.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:26:11 f:-0.029 pm:15.09 jm:662 q:  2.4 -0.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:27:47 f:-0.029 pm:15.66 jm:662 q:  2.6 -0.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:29:23 f:-0.039 pm:15.99 jm:662 q:  2.6 -0.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:30:59 f:-0.039 pm:16.24 jm:662 q:  2.5  0.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:32:35 f:-0.039 pm:16.82 jm:662 q:  2.6  0.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:34:11 f:-0.039 pm:17.14 jm:662 q:  2.6  0.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:35:47 f:-0.039 pm:17.24 jm:662 q:  2.4 -0.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:37:23 f:-0.039 pm:17.68 jm:662 q:  2.1 -0.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:38:59 f:-0.029 pm:17.97 jm:662 q:  2.2 -0.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:40:35 f:-0.039 pm:18.96 jm:662 q:  2.2 -0.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:42:11 f:-0.039 pm:19.44 jm:662 q:  2.3 -0.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:43:47 f:-0.039 pm:19.51 jm:662 q:  2.0 -0.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:45:23 f:-0.039 pm:19.92 jm:662 q:  2.0 -0.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:46:59 f:-0.039 pm:21.22 jm:662 q:  2.1 -0.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
08:48:35 f:-0.039 pm:21.40 jm:662 q:  1.9 -0.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
2009-01-29 08:48:43 >WOLF10  -r 10800.689 -f 399.92 -t 2.0 -w 0.0000 -ut
08:49:07 f: 0.079 a: 0.2 dp: 82.8 ci: 0 cj: 52 9.M00/IIPUV9N.V ?
08:49:31 f: 0.080 a: 0.2 dp: 82.5 ci: 9 cj: 99 ???UYBVPC YPEIY ?
08:50:19 f: 0.080 a: 0.2 dp: 83.0 ci:15 cj:420 KNWMYLWDLWMER5A ?
08:51:55 f:-0.312 pm:1.618 jm:816 q:-12.4 -8.9 OJX57F8E.LF9OD8 ?
...
09:03:07 f:-0.039 pm:6.634 jm:575 q: -3.2 -5.7 Y  PL7BT2.B1UG0 -
09:04:43 f:-0.039 pm:8.234 jm:575 q: -2.8 -5.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
09:06:19 f:-0.039 pm:9.596 jm:575 q: -2.7 -5.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
09:07:55 f:-0.039 pm:10.28 jm:575 q: -2.6 -5.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
09:09:31 f:-0.039 pm:11.03 jm:575 q: -2.3 -4.8 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
09:11:07 f:-0.039 pm:11.06 jm:575 q: -2.2 -7.9 TAG RAYMOND MVR ?
09:12:43 f:-0.039 pm:11.35 jm:575 q: -2.6 -7.3 Y K*JZZXV6MJVBF ?
09:14:19 f:-0.039 pm:12.17 jm:575 q: -2.4 -8.0 IQHATNXATS151W* ?
09:15:55 f:-0.039 pm:12.66 jm:575 q: -2.2 -7.8 RJJK*BIUP0E9PD7 ?
09:17:31 f:-0.039 pm:13.45 jm:575 q: -1.8 -5.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
09:19:07 f:-0.039 pm:13.90 jm:575 q: -1.6 -5.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
09:20:43 f:-0.039 pm:15.85 jm:575 q: -1.1 -4.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
09:22:19 f:-0.039 pm:16.82 jm:575 q: -0.7 -4.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
09:23:55 f:-0.039 pm:17.96 jm:575 q: -0.4 -4.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
09:25:31 f:-0.039 pm:18.69 jm:575 q: -0.3 -4.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
09:27:07 f:-0.039 pm:19.12 jm:575 q: -0.3 -3.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
09:28:43 f:-0.039 pm:19.55 jm:575 q: -0.1 -3.4 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
09:30:19 f:-0.039 pm:19.83 jm:575 q: -0.2 -3.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
09:31:55 f:-0.039 pm:20.28 jm:575 q: -0.2 -3.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
09:33:31 f:-0.039 pm:20.87 jm:575 q: -0.1 -3.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
09:35:07 f:-0.039 pm:21.45 jm:575 q: -0.3 -3.9 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
09:36:43 f:-0.039 pm:21.57 jm:575 q: -0.4 -4.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
09:38:19 f:-0.039 pm:21.57 jm:575 q: -0.6 -4.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
09:39:55 f:-0.039 pm:21.86 jm:575 q: -0.6 -4.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
09:41:31 f:-0.039 pm:22.45 jm:575 q: -0.6 -4.5 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
2009-01-29 09:41:40 >WOLF10  -r 10800.689 -f 399.92 -t 2.0 -w 0.0000 -ut
09:42:04 f: 0.080 a: 0.1 dp: 84.9 ci: 3 cj:  0 AK/3ULO .T*C2SY ?
09:42:28 f: 0.081 a: 0.1 dp: 84.8 ci: 5 cj:448 A 86.RHOB*Y5HLL ?
09:43:16 f: 0.080 a: 0.2 dp: 84.6 ci:12 cj:473 23D6XEN5XBHPRYC ?
09:44:52 f: 1.533 pm:0.863 jm:443 q:-14.5 -6.1 CYERJER3KRVV94S -
09:46:28 f:-0.039 pm:1.607 jm:485 q: -7.8 -5.7 X5PC144QHV5*URK -
...
10:10:28 f:-0.039 pm:5.988 jm:485 q: -3.3 -5.8 .O4JWI8K/F1HVT8 -
10:12:04 f:-0.039 pm:6.287 jm:485 q: -2.8 -7.6 TAG RAYMOND OYU ?
10:13:40 f:-0.039 pm:7.128 jm:485 q: -2.6 -7.4 TAG RAYMOND OZJ ?
10:15:16 f:-0.039 pm:7.664 jm:485 q: -2.6 -5.3 TAG RAYMOND OYQ -
10:16:52 f:-0.039 pm:7.972 jm:485 q: -2.5 -6.9 TAG RAYMOND OYW ?
10:18:28 f:-0.039 pm:8.475 jm:485 q: -2.3 -6.6 TAG RAYMOND OYB ?
10:20:04 f:-0.039 pm:8.485 jm:485 q: -2.4 -7.0 TAG RAYMONDFNG5 ?
10:21:40 f:-0.039 pm:8.897 jm:485 q: -2.2 -6.4 TAG RAYMONDFNG6 ?
10:23:16 f:-0.039 pm:9.007 jm:485 q: -2.2 -7.7 5N4??? ZV1UWPA/ ?
...
2009-01-29 10:34:37 >WOLF10  -r 10800.689 -f 399.92 -t 2.0 -w 0.0000 -ut
10:35:01 f: 0.080 a: 0.2 dp: 84.7 ci: 0 cj:  0 2ULBUQ???EFWDAK ?
10:35:25 f: 0.080 a: 0.2 dp: 84.4 ci:11 cj:183 1E33OFMLJGG4J*  ?
10:36:13 f: 0.080 a: 0.2 dp: 84.4 ci:15 cj:186 HPGKCKHN20LBLEY ?
10:37:49 f: 1.182 pm:0.985 jm:368 q:-13.5 -8.3 O /FS ON CXO.DQ ?
10:39:25 f:-0.039 pm:1.092 jm:394 q: -7.8 -5.3 SA/???IG/O0NX90 -
10:41:01 f:-0.039 pm:1.521 jm:394 q: -5.9 -7.3 V5HBMLIW2JSSM2J ?
10:42:37 f:-0.039 pm:1.698 jm:394 q: -5.7 -6.8 U1KA6IILXNFE0JC ?
10:45:49 f:-0.039 pm:3.044 jm:394 q: -4.4 -5.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  ?
10:47:25 f:-0.039 pm:3.452 jm:394 q: -4.4 -5.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
10:49:01 f:-0.039 pm:4.163 jm:394 q: -3.7 -5.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
10:50:37 f:-0.039 pm:4.534 jm:394 q: -3.4 -5.1 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

Decoding at 0800Z was unusually quick. At other times decodes vacillated 
between success and garble. Frequent, substantial static crashes were 
present at those times. Perhaps using the Wolf clipping function would 
have helped. Tuning error drift downward was apparent. That may have 
been more due to receiver drift than TAG drift.

73,
Garry
K3SIW, EN52, Elgin, IL

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From ashlockw at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 29 12:13:46 2009
From: ashlockw at hotmail.com (Bill Ashlock)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:13:46 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode
In-Reply-To: <49816DA1.3080406@telia.com>
References: <C523CA6BB607334C90114231C4D477040163FA@tguexmb1.conoco.net>
	<49816DA1.3080406@telia.com>
Message-ID: <BLU149-W54643DF0DB7FB59FE253EBC9C90@phx.gbl>


Thanks a lot Johan,
 
This WSPRing is getting to look more interesting by the hour. ....And yesterday I hadn't even heard of the mode.
 
BTW, I also downloaded the SAQ reciever and am excited about comparing reception with my upconverter and R-75. What is the typical input voltage to my sound card (antenna signal level) required?
 
Bill> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:49:37 +0100> From: jh.bodin at telia.com> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode> > Bill, John, Laurence,> > Howell, Laurence (Shanghai/Singapore) wrote:> > Prog WSPR standalone - Think DL6NL and others have already> > done this for their qrpp whisper 30m and other band units.> > Ill see if I can find the emails.> > DL6NL is using this WSPR stand-alone beacon controller:> > http://web.telia.com/~u33233109/> > It is in the file mjb002.zip. It can be used with either a VCXO or a DDS.> > Freeware, it runs on a PIC16F628.> > > 73> Johan SM6LKM> _______________________________________________> >From the Lowfer mailing list> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
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From stanw1le at verizon.net  Thu Jan 29 15:58:09 2009
From: stanw1le at verizon.net (Stan W1LE)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:58:09 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode
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References: <C523CA6BB607334C90114231C4D477040163FA@tguexmb1.conoco.net>
	<49816DA1.3080406@telia.com>
	<BLU149-W54643DF0DB7FB59FE253EBC9C90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <49821861.2050606@verizon.net>

Hello Johan,

Do you offer programmed PIC's ?    for the WSPR beacon controller.

Thanks   Stan, W1LE



Bill Ashlock wrote:
> Thanks a lot Johan,
>  
> This WSPRing is getting to look more interesting by the hour. ....And 
> yesterday I hadn't even heard of the mode.
>  
> BTW, I also downloaded the SAQ reciever and am excited about comparing 
> reception with my upconverter and R-75. What is the typical input 
> voltage to my sound card (antenna signal level) required?
>  
> Bill
>
> > Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:49:37 +0100
> > From: jh.bodin at telia.com
> > To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode
> >
> > Bill, John, Laurence,
> >
> > Howell, Laurence (Shanghai/Singapore) wrote:
> > > Prog WSPR standalone - Think DL6NL and others have already
> > > done this for their qrpp whisper 30m and other band units.
> > > Ill see if I can find the emails.
> >
> > DL6NL is using this WSPR stand-alone beacon controller:
> >
> > http://web.telia.com/~u33233109/
> >
> > It is in the file mjb002.zip. It can be used with either a VCXO or a 
> DDS.
> >
> > Freeware, it runs on a PIC16F628.
> >
> >
> > 73
> > Johan SM6LKM
> > _______________________________________________
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From ashlockw at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 29 17:25:10 2009
From: ashlockw at hotmail.com (Bill Ashlock)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:25:10 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode
In-Reply-To: <49821861.2050606@verizon.net>
References: <C523CA6BB607334C90114231C4D477040163FA@tguexmb1.conoco.net>
	<49816DA1.3080406@telia.com>
	<BLU149-W54643DF0DB7FB59FE253EBC9C90@phx.gbl> 
	<49821861.2050606@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <BLU149-W682FF75AA4D4239847DB9AC9C90@phx.gbl>


> BTW, I also downloaded the SAQ reciever and am excited about comparing reception with my upconverter and R-75. 
 
Johan,
 
I checked the frequency response of the sound card input to this computer and found it begins falling off very fasT at 6KHz. Unfortunately there's not much to see at 17.2KHz. This is a new Compaq laptop.
 
Bill> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:58:09 -0500> From: stanw1le at verizon.net> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net; jh.bodin at telia.com> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode> > Hello Johan,> > Do you offer programmed PIC's ? for the WSPR beacon controller.> > Thanks Stan, W1LE> > > > Bill Ashlock wrote:> > Thanks a lot Johan,> > > > This WSPRing is getting to look more interesting by the hour. ....And > > yesterday I hadn't even heard of the mode.> > > > BTW, I also downloaded the SAQ reciever and am excited about comparing > > reception with my upconverter and R-75. What is the typical input > > voltage to my sound card (antenna signal level) required?> > > > Bill> >> > > Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:49:37 +0100> > > From: jh.bodin at telia.com> > > To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net> > > Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode> > >> > > Bill, John, Laurence,> > >> > > Howell, Laurence (Shanghai/Singapore) wrote:> > > > Prog WSPR standalone - Think DL6NL and others have already> > > > done this for their qrpp whisper 30m and other band units.> > > > Ill see if I can find the emails.> > >> > > DL6NL is using this WSPR stand-alone beacon controller:> > >> > > http://web.telia.com/~u33233109/> > >> > > It is in the file mjb002.zip. It can be used with either a VCXO or a > > DDS.> > >> > > Freeware, it runs on a PIC16F628.> > >> > >> > > 73> > > Johan SM6LKM> > > _______________________________________________> > > >From the Lowfer mailing list> > > Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net> > > To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > _______________________________________________> > >From the Lowfer mailing list> > Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net> > To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer> > > > _______________________________________________> >From the Lowfer mailing list> Send messages to: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net> To sub/unsub visit: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Thu Jan 29 17:59:21 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:59:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2  WSPR
Message-ID: <004501c98265$39766ce0$6c01a8c0@DELL4>

Thanks to all for the reports sent direct, through the reflectors and the 
'spots' sent to the WSPR database on Tuesday night. A large number of spots 
were recoreded from both the USA and EU. The biggest surprise was the almost 
continuous reception by GM4SLV with hardly a missed sequence over the 7 hour 
period.

Using the GM4SLV data from the WSPR database, I put together a simple chart 
of his received signal strength over the period. We all know how deep and 
quick the QSB can be on this band and the chart clearly shows this as well.

 http://www.w1vd.com/WE2XGRGM4SLV.gif

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 


From cvest at cox.net  Thu Jan 29 18:58:19 2009
From: cvest at cox.net (Charles W5COV)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:58:19 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer CV copied in Mechanicsburg, Pa.
References: <LBENKNHPADCIMLPCBOKNCEJPDNAA.wa3usg@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <B5494A8379DE43B8BC0300CA3DB121CB@gateway>

Hi Dick ,

   Thanks for the report !! Pretty amazing looking at the meters here and 
antenna loading .
   What are you using for a receive setup ? I really need to upgrade my 
receiving system .

73,

Charlie Vest , W5COV
South Coffeyville , OK. 


From cqkg8co at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 29 21:01:29 2009
From: cqkg8co at yahoo.com (Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:01:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] EAR Copied
Message-ID: <181421.29334.qm@web38503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

EAR copied this morning.

Brian, KG8CO
Clinton, MI


      

From ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com  Fri Jan 30 01:15:11 2009
From: ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com (ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:15:11 EST
Subject: [Lowfer] TA LWBC Fantastic Tonite
Message-ID: <c9e.45c4626b.36b3f4ef@aol.com>

Hearing programming on almost every Longwave broadcast channel  tonite.
153, 162, 171, 177, 183, 189, 198, 207, 216, 225, 234, 252, and even a 
trace of announcing on 270. It is very very rare for me to
hear anything on 270KHz.
The BBC4 on 198 is booming in over the top of beacon DIW.
 
73's Todd WD4NGG
 
 
 
 
**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy 
steps! 
(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De
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From L.Howell at conocophillips.com  Fri Jan 30 02:04:10 2009
From: L.Howell at conocophillips.com (Howell, Laurence (Shanghai/Singapore))
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:04:10 +0800
Subject: [Lowfer] TA LWBC Fantastic Tonite
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References: <c9e.45c4626b.36b3f4ef@aol.com>
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Anything on 164kHz Mongolia? 

-----Original Message-----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 2:15 PM
To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Lowfer] TA LWBC Fantastic Tonite

Hearing programming on almost every Longwave broadcast channel  tonite.
153, 162, 171, 177, 183, 189, 198, 207, 216, 225, 234, 252, and even a 
trace of announcing on 270. It is very very rare for me to
hear anything on 270KHz.
The BBC4 on 198 is booming in over the top of beacon DIW.
 
73's Todd WD4NGG
 
 
 

From ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com  Fri Jan 30 02:16:06 2009
From: ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com (ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:16:06 EST
Subject: [Lowfer] TA LWBC Fantastic Tonite
Message-ID: <cc2.3b8d54fd.36b40336@aol.com>

In a message dated 1/30/2009 2:04:48 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
L.Howell at conocophillips.com writes:

Anything on 164kHz Mongolia? 
 
Hi, so far have not heard anything on 164 or any Far East
Longwave broadcasters here along East Coast USA. Only
European or Middle East LWBC here.
 
73 Todd WD4NGG
**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy 
steps! 
(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De
cemailfooterNO62)

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Fri Jan 30 07:20:45 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:20:45 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] CV in CT
Message-ID: <000501c982d5$2d895670$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

CV riding off into the sunrise in CT...

http://www.w1vd.com/capture/CV013009.jpg

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Jan 31 08:21:27 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:21:27 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 in WSPR mode
Message-ID: <001a01c983a6$d2fa2b30$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

WE2XGR/2 will be in WSPR mode tonight starting 2030Z on dial frequency 507.000 kHz. The start time 
has been moved up as las Tuesday's session produced copy as soon as the transmitter was fired up at 
2200Z. It will be interesting to see how early stations are able to receive the beacon. Sunset here 
today is 2206Z.

In years past CT1DRP on 137 kHz was received (QRSS30) here as early as 2015Z - more than an hour 
before sunset.

Reports and 'spots' uploaded to the WSPR database are appreciated.

Jay  W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 


From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Jan 31 08:23:40 2009
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:23:40 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG check in CT
Message-ID: <002a01c983a7$21f68170$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>

2009-01-31 12:27:24 >WOLF10  -r 8000.435 -f 800 -t 1.0 -d 16 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f:-0.003 a: 0.7 dp: 91.5 ci: 0 cj: 35 4N5J*B9CJB0LJ7Q ?
t:  48 f:-0.005 a: 0.8 dp: 89.1 ci:15 cj: 36 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t:  96 f:-0.004 a: 0.7 dp: 89.7 ci:15 cj: 36 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 192 f:-0.010 pm:256.0 jm:889 q:  5.5  6.2 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 288 f:-0.010 pm:578.0 jm:889 q:  9.2 10.3 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 384 f:-0.010 pm:889.8 jm:889 q:  8.3 11.6 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 480 f:-0.010 pm: 1111 jm:889 q: 10.2 13.0 TAG RAYMOND ME  -
t: 576 f:-0.010 pm: 1216 jm:889 q: 11.0 12.7 TAG RAYMOND ME  -

Jay

From evp at pacbell.net  Sat Jan 31 10:29:41 2009
From: evp at pacbell.net (Ed Phillips)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 07:29:41 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] HIFERS IN DM04
In-Reply-To: <002a01c983a7$21f68170$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <002a01c983a7$21f68170$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <49846E65.7020305@pacbell.net>

  This morning WV was coming through "loud and clear" [on Spectran, that 
is] just at sunrise and is still in there at 7:30 PDT. NC is also there 
but with very screwed up keying. Anyone know of any HIFER other stations 
on the air?

Ed


From k5wms at aristotle.net  Sat Jan 31 16:49:43 2009
From: k5wms at aristotle.net (PAUL DAULTON)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:49:43 -0500 
Subject: [Lowfer] WMS off the air FRIDAY and SATURDAY
Message-ID: <20090131224942.E91DC3738423@mailman.qth.net>

WMS beacon will be off the air for two nights while I do some listening.
Thank 
Paul k5mws
beacon wms 187492 hz
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