From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sat Dec  1 00:29:10 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 00:29:10 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SJ & TAG
Message-ID: <C11E78C9262C4570931DA5E3AC75680A@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All: SJ & TAG in here this evening since about 0200Z with partials, band improved around 0500Z in EN90xn.

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/SJNTAG.jpg

NE EWE to Heath HD-1420 to FT-817. HVAC modulator turned off on the converter LO, (hi)

Working on that PTC circuit

73  Mike wa3tts

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sat Dec  1 01:24:37 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 01:24:37 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W31689F6D7AD5D0B4571773AC420@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR got several stations decodeing tonite. Band conditions not the greatest but at about 0100Z things improved.  Conditions no where near as good as last year at this time. Shorter skip is in but the DX doesn't come easy.
Thanks to the decoders from Europe, UK and the West coast;
G0KTN
DG3LV
PA0O
F4DTL
WA6MPG
N4LTA
Have a long trip to make tomorrow and may not get home till late but will fire up Sunday eve for sure-hope to see your decodes then-Bob 		 	   		  

From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 06:37:43 2012
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 11:37:43 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] SJ & TAG
In-Reply-To: <C11E78C9262C4570931DA5E3AC75680A@MichaelSappPC>
References: <C11E78C9262C4570931DA5E3AC75680A@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <CAE89MiSxKZVhpqrx4k9zTx4aQ92yBsabZxsj5naKf7U43ywTEA@mail.gmail.com>

SJ really nice hr last evening
Lloyd W3NF

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:

> Hi All: SJ & TAG in here this evening since about 0200Z with partials,
> band improved around 0500Z in EN90xn.
>
> http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/SJNTAG.jpg
>
> NE EWE to Heath HD-1420 to FT-817. HVAC modulator turned off on the
> converter LO, (hi)
>
> Working on that PTC circuit
>
> 73  Mike wa3tts
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 06:56:02 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 06:56:02 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] JH beacon fixed
In-Reply-To: <CA+jjR7fZ4fVogwUK_wyZE9oP-cojMQ98p3_W6BuWtfbvVEG_XQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+jjR7cV4N2pn6DLi-xx2TuTayNOuVXu9TseRYXjnA7A0Rzb9A@mail.gmail.com>
	<50B8BE39.10405@gmail.com>
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No luck receiving your signal last night, John. Conditions might not have
been the greatest. I'll keep trying.

I just took a look at Dex's screen capture of your signal, and it looks to
me like you are transmitting "SJ" or "JS".  There's a dit missing in the
"H", unless my eyes are failing me.

73, Doug KB4OER




On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 5:30 PM, John Hamer <wilbur0611 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I ran out of light before I could time it. Ill pull the o-scope out there
> tomorrow
> On Nov 30, 2012 9:10 AM, "Dexter McIntyre W4DEX" <dexter.mc at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > John Hamer wrote:
> >
> >> I had a failed transistor on my final. I am not sure how long it has
> been
> >> bad. I over heated them when I first tested my antenna on accident. JH
> is
> >> back up transmitting 1 watt on 181.818khz.
> >>
> >>
> > I confirm your signal is again radiating:
> >
> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/**15095569/w4dex/grabber1_00000.**jpg<
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15095569/w4dex/grabber1_00000.jpg>
> >
> > I'll leave the grabber on your freq most of the day.
> >
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 06:58:48 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 06:58:48 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] PBO - going back home
In-Reply-To: <735CCBD2082D4B0685653B36AC79D1AF@radioroom>
References: <735CCBD2082D4B0685653B36AC79D1AF@radioroom>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7aM1M90z1xbLQ+E_mp=f4pc9ofmN7zfB7Vy-vb1Gq5Z-w@mail.gmail.com>

What is the home frequency, Rick? I don't think I've received your signal
yet this season and would like to give it a try tonight.

73, Doug KB4OER

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:34 PM, rick kirby <smokinggun at verizon.net> wrote:

>   Well the crystal I ground for the Watering Hole was too chirpy so I went
> back to the home frequency. Maybe I will order one of those Epson
> oscillators.I don't have enough time right now to build a programmable
> exciter; maybe next season.
>
>
>
> 73
>
>    Rick  KA2PBO
>
>
>
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 07:02:44 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 07:02:44 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Fw: FCC ET Docket 12-338
In-Reply-To: <06A03B8292D84940A15F5858783FAEE9@warren7451549c>
References: <06A03B8292D84940A15F5858783FAEE9@warren7451549c>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7bOg6FTeSYjR1-H6WVHBqWnSZ60387gzsQa=2eY2Y-NMA@mail.gmail.com>

Warren,

Well written, IMO.

Kay's answer just seems like standard administrative blah blah. Hopefully,
the "Executive Committee" will take action soon.

-Doug KB4OER

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:43 AM, K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:

> E-mail received from the ARRL president in response to my comments.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: Kay Craigie
> To: 'K2ORS'
> Cc: 'Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ'
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 5:52 AM
> Subject: RE: FCC ET Docket 12-338
>
>
> Dear Warren,
> Thank you for your comments on this FCC proceeding. Neither the ARRL Board
> of Directors as a whole nor the Executive Committee, a sub-set of the
> Board, has started work on this docket yet. When that work commences, your
> experience-based input will certainly be taken into account. I regret that
> you may have been caused to think the ARRL has already begun to consider
> this proceeding. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and opinions.
> 73 - Kay N3KN
>
>
> Kay Craigie N3KN
> President, ARRL
> 570 Brush Mountain Road
> Blacksburg, Virginia 24060 USA
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Dec  1 07:24:40 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 07:24:40 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] PBO in CT
Message-ID: <006801cdcfbe$d6438ee0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

PBO up on grabber 1 for a while this morning  http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html .

SIW signal levels (185.185) have been just 'okay' of late ... no further reception in the 185.300 
watering hole possible from this location ... apologies to stations that would enjoy reception 
reports from CT.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 


From smokinggun at verizon.net  Sat Dec  1 07:25:30 2012
From: smokinggun at verizon.net (rick kirby)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 12:25:30 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] PBO - going back home
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7aM1M90z1xbLQ+E_mp=f4pc9ofmN7zfB7Vy-vb1Gq5Z-w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B23641F5E75E44289C4CF4F060B127D9@radioroom>

Hi Doug,

 The last time Jay checked my signal it was on 187.20375. I don't expect my
signal to make it that far right now. I am trying to get a vertical antenna 
to work on this terrible clay and rock soil. I was using a loop past few
seasons with some success. I was trying to get into the watering hole so I
have a better chance of being heard. I guess the crystal didn't like being
ground as far as it was.

 Thanks and good luck!

  Rick  KA2PBO  

-----Original Message-----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Douglas D. Williams
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 11:59
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp, UK) and MedFer bands
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] PBO - going back home

What is the home frequency, Rick? I don't think I've received your signal
yet this season and would like to give it a try tonight.

73, Doug KB4OER

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:34 PM, rick kirby <smokinggun at verizon.net> wrote:

>   Well the crystal I ground for the Watering Hole was too chirpy so I went
> back to the home frequency. Maybe I will order one of those Epson
> oscillators.I don't have enough time right now to build a programmable
> exciter; maybe next season.
>
>
>
> 73
>
>    Rick  KA2PBO
>
>
>
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 07:34:20 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 07:34:20 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] PBO - going back home
In-Reply-To: <B23641F5E75E44289C4CF4F060B127D9@radioroom>
References: <CABP+t7aM1M90z1xbLQ+E_mp=f4pc9ofmN7zfB7Vy-vb1Gq5Z-w@mail.gmail.com>
	<B23641F5E75E44289C4CF4F060B127D9@radioroom>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7bA7fAR-4epAE3FjwsKSjDP=Q8=pwHoxrrikQOXqq3Yxw@mail.gmail.com>

I'll give a listen tonight. From what I remember, I was in the null of your
loop antenna and still able to copy on occasion.

As far as rocky, clay soil, we here in east TN wrote the book on that. Know
why they call it "Big Orange" country here? Because of the orange clay soil
we have. :-)

I suppose your best bet is to lay down a lot of radials.

73, Doug KB4OER

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 7:25 AM, rick kirby <smokinggun at verizon.net> wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
>  The last time Jay checked my signal it was on 187.20375. I don't expect my
> signal to make it that far right now. I am trying to get a vertical antenna
> to work on this terrible clay and rock soil. I was using a loop past few
> seasons with some success. I was trying to get into the watering hole so I
> have a better chance of being heard. I guess the crystal didn't like being
> ground as far as it was.
>
>  Thanks and good luck!
>
>   Rick  KA2PBO
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:
> lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of Douglas D. Williams
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 11:59
> To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp, UK) and MedFer bands
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] PBO - going back home
>
> What is the home frequency, Rick? I don't think I've received your signal
> yet this season and would like to give it a try tonight.
>
> 73, Doug KB4OER
>
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:34 PM, rick kirby <smokinggun at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> >   Well the crystal I ground for the Watering Hole was too chirpy so I
> went
> > back to the home frequency. Maybe I will order one of those Epson
> > oscillators.I don't have enough time right now to build a programmable
> > exciter; maybe next season.
> >
> >
> >
> > 73
> >
> >    Rick  KA2PBO
> >
> >
> >
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 07:45:59 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 07:45:59 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] remote "natural radio" receiver
Message-ID: <CABP+t7b-YAY5QrNVxSxNpm=XE064oiZkeLBUTFuMcS5=gAZLTw@mail.gmail.com>

Years ago I built several of Michael Mideke's RS4 natural radio receivers.
I'm thinking of dismantling one of them down to the circuit board,
enclosing it in a waterproof box, and installing it on a mast perhaps 100'
from my house. I'll still get a lot of hum, but it might let me hear the
occasional whistler, dawn chorus, or other interesting signal from the
comfort of my house.

I've been checking around, and 12v batteries and weatherproof solar
chargers seem to be everywhere these days, probably because so many folks
are installing solar lighting, hummingbird feeders, and game cameras.

The RS4 has a very low current draw, and a mic or line level (not headphone
level) output, so it should be a good match for the mic or line level input
of a computer sound card. What I don't want to do is carry the 60 Hz hum
from the house to the remote RS4 via the sound card connection. What do you
guys think is the solution? Perhaps a couple of 1:1 audio
isolation transformers....one in the house and another near the RS4? Also,
anyone know of a source of inexpensive, buriable 2 wire cable?

-Doug KB4OER

From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Dec  1 08:34:58 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 08:34:58 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] remote "natural radio" receiver
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7b-YAY5QrNVxSxNpm=XE064oiZkeLBUTFuMcS5=gAZLTw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABP+t7b-YAY5QrNVxSxNpm=XE064oiZkeLBUTFuMcS5=gAZLTw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D5F32951-B1BB-479D-9A30-DD5313C847A7@hurontel.on.ca>

Doug, Lowfers,

Jim Moritz, M0BMU, did something similar a few years ago and wrote up an article on his setup and the results.
I can't give you a URL, but a few minutes with Google might give you a link.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From pbunn at matrixei.com  Sat Dec  1 08:49:34 2012
From: pbunn at matrixei.com (pbunn)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 13:49:34 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] remote "natural radio" receiver
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7b-YAY5QrNVxSxNpm=XE064oiZkeLBUTFuMcS5=gAZLTw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABP+t7b-YAY5QrNVxSxNpm=XE064oiZkeLBUTFuMcS5=gAZLTw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <cmgng85aq8isythx7mxww4ho.1354369771114@email.android.com>

Doug

Are you going to run coax to the receiver? If so, you can use the coax to feed the power from a battery. Rg6 is cheap and bury able . I'd put a couple if common mode chokes in the kine also. They made more difference in my receiving installation than anything I have done.

Pat
N4LTA

"Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:


Years ago I built several of Michael Mideke's RS4 natural radio receivers.
I'm thinking of dismantling one of them down to the circuit board,
enclosing it in a waterproof box, and installing it on a mast perhaps 100'
from my house. I'll still get a lot of hum, but it might let me hear the
occasional whistler, dawn chorus, or other interesting signal from the
comfort of my house.

I've been checking around, and 12v batteries and weatherproof solar
chargers seem to be everywhere these days, probably because so many folks
are installing solar lighting, hummingbird feeders, and game cameras.

The RS4 has a very low current draw, and a mic or line level (not headphone
level) output, so it should be a good match for the mic or line level input
of a computer sound card. What I don't want to do is carry the 60 Hz hum
from the house to the remote RS4 via the sound card connection. What do you
guys think is the solution? Perhaps a couple of 1:1 audio
isolation transformers....one in the house and another near the RS4? Also,
anyone know of a source of inexpensive, buriable 2 wire cable?

-Doug KB4OER
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Dec  1 09:03:08 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 09:03:08 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] remote "natural radio" receiver
In-Reply-To: <D5F32951-B1BB-479D-9A30-DD5313C847A7@hurontel.on.ca>
References: <CABP+t7b-YAY5QrNVxSxNpm=XE064oiZkeLBUTFuMcS5=gAZLTw@mail.gmail.com>
	<D5F32951-B1BB-479D-9A30-DD5313C847A7@hurontel.on.ca>
Message-ID: <FD3A465F-517D-47F7-8808-5DFC177F4388@hurontel.on.ca>

Doug, Lowfers,

I did some digging in my archives and found the link to Jim's article.  There's some very useful information at this site:

http://abelian.org/vlfrx/

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 09:03:40 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 09:03:40 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] remote "natural radio" receiver
In-Reply-To: <cmgng85aq8isythx7mxww4ho.1354369771114@email.android.com>
References: <CABP+t7b-YAY5QrNVxSxNpm=XE064oiZkeLBUTFuMcS5=gAZLTw@mail.gmail.com>
	<cmgng85aq8isythx7mxww4ho.1354369771114@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7Zjrr=GL9PCGV_0z5U+xuPuzS6HHvSVe5D5H-80wn9=xQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Pat. No, I'll probably just use some 2 conductor wire for the audio
feed to the sound card. I think I'll put the battery in my outbuilding and
a solar panel on the roof to keep the battery charged. Radio shack might
still sell those little audio isolation transformers for keeping the feed
wires from carrying all the 60 Hz + harmonics out to the unit.

I need to walk around my property with a portable RS4 just to see if I can
find a location quiet enough to make this even worth the trouble.

-Doug KB4OER

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:49 AM, pbunn <pbunn at matrixei.com> wrote:

> Doug
>
> Are you going to run coax to the receiver? If so, you can use the coax to
> feed the power from a battery. Rg6 is cheap and bury able . I'd put a
> couple if common mode chokes in the kine also. They made more difference in
> my receiving installation than anything I have done.
>
> Pat
> N4LTA
>
> "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Years ago I built several of Michael Mideke's RS4 natural radio receivers.
> I'm thinking of dismantling one of them down to the circuit board,
> enclosing it in a waterproof box, and installing it on a mast perhaps 100'
> from my house. I'll still get a lot of hum, but it might let me hear the
> occasional whistler, dawn chorus, or other interesting signal from the
> comfort of my house.
>
> I've been checking around, and 12v batteries and weatherproof solar
> chargers seem to be everywhere these days, probably because so many folks
> are installing solar lighting, hummingbird feeders, and game cameras.
>
> The RS4 has a very low current draw, and a mic or line level (not headphone
> level) output, so it should be a good match for the mic or line level input
> of a computer sound card. What I don't want to do is carry the 60 Hz hum
> from the house to the remote RS4 via the sound card connection. What do you
> guys think is the solution? Perhaps a couple of 1:1 audio
> isolation transformers....one in the house and another near the RS4? Also,
> anyone know of a source of inexpensive, buriable 2 wire cable?
>
> -Doug KB4OER
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From smokinggun at verizon.net  Sat Dec  1 09:41:36 2012
From: smokinggun at verizon.net (rick kirby)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:41:36 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] PBO in CT ---Thanks Jay !!
In-Reply-To: <006801cdcfbe$d6438ee0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <1170D44D63124968AFA653944352246F@radioroom>

Hi Jay,
 Looks a little better than last time. I have since added 16 radials and
removed all connections to ground rods . Still more work to do but Im a lot
more motivated when I see a screen capture ! 
 
 Thanks for looking!!

 Rick  KA2PBO 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of jrusgrove at comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 12:25
To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Lowfer] PBO in CT

PBO up on grabber 1 for a while this morning
http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html .

SIW signal levels (185.185) have been just 'okay' of late ... no further
reception in the 185.300 
watering hole possible from this location ... apologies to stations that
would enjoy reception 
reports from CT.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 

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From smokinggun at verizon.net  Sat Dec  1 09:51:19 2012
From: smokinggun at verizon.net (rick kirby)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:51:19 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] PBO - going back home
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7bA7fAR-4epAE3FjwsKSjDP=Q8=pwHoxrrikQOXqq3Yxw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43D48C3499804677830622B9C91AD78A@radioroom>

Doug,
 I am up to 50 radials right now but we had our first snow this week so
guess any additional radials will be placed on top of the snow!
 Well that orange clay probably helps make that college football team of
your home state as tough as they are! And the clay has had no ill effects on
my  adult beverage of choice : bourbon!
 
 Thanks and Good Luck

 Rick  KA2PBO
 

-----Original Message-----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Douglas D. Williams
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 12:34
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp, UK) and MedFer bands
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] PBO - going back home

I'll give a listen tonight. From what I remember, I was in the null of your
loop antenna and still able to copy on occasion.

As far as rocky, clay soil, we here in east TN wrote the book on that. Know
why they call it "Big Orange" country here? Because of the orange clay soil
we have. :-)

I suppose your best bet is to lay down a lot of radials.

73, Doug KB4OER

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 7:25 AM, rick kirby <smokinggun at verizon.net> wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
>  The last time Jay checked my signal it was on 187.20375. I don't expect
my
> signal to make it that far right now. I am trying to get a vertical
antenna
> to work on this terrible clay and rock soil. I was using a loop past few
> seasons with some success. I was trying to get into the watering hole so I
> have a better chance of being heard. I guess the crystal didn't like being
> ground as far as it was.
>
>  Thanks and good luck!
>
>   Rick  KA2PBO
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:
> lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of Douglas D. Williams
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 11:59
> To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp, UK) and MedFer bands
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] PBO - going back home
>
> What is the home frequency, Rick? I don't think I've received your signal
> yet this season and would like to give it a try tonight.
>
> 73, Doug KB4OER
>
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:34 PM, rick kirby <smokinggun at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> >   Well the crystal I ground for the Watering Hole was too chirpy so I
> went
> > back to the home frequency. Maybe I will order one of those Epson
> > oscillators.I don't have enough time right now to build a programmable
> > exciter; maybe next season.
> >
> >
> >
> > 73
> >
> >    Rick  KA2PBO
> >
> >
> >
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From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 10:01:35 2012
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 15:01:35 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] PBO - going back home
In-Reply-To: <43D48C3499804677830622B9C91AD78A@radioroom>
References: <CABP+t7bA7fAR-4epAE3FjwsKSjDP=Q8=pwHoxrrikQOXqq3Yxw@mail.gmail.com>
	<43D48C3499804677830622B9C91AD78A@radioroom>
Message-ID: <CAE89MiS-L+_q0Qxy-p0g_OtcsaS4-p-2eP5+0OPL1Zw7NPrTzw@mail.gmail.com>

10am in morning and getting copy on PBO
Lloyd W3NF


On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, rick kirby <smokinggun at verizon.net> wrote:

> Doug,
>  I am up to 50 radials right now but we had our first snow this week so
> guess any additional radials will be placed on top of the snow!
>  Well that orange clay probably helps make that college football team of
> your home state as tough as they are! And the clay has had no ill effects
> on
> my  adult beverage of choice : bourbon!
>
>  Thanks and Good Luck
>
>  Rick  KA2PBO
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:
> lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of Douglas D. Williams
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 12:34
> To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp, UK) and MedFer bands
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] PBO - going back home
>
> I'll give a listen tonight. From what I remember, I was in the null of your
> loop antenna and still able to copy on occasion.
>
> As far as rocky, clay soil, we here in east TN wrote the book on that. Know
> why they call it "Big Orange" country here? Because of the orange clay soil
> we have. :-)
>
> I suppose your best bet is to lay down a lot of radials.
>
> 73, Doug KB4OER
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 7:25 AM, rick kirby <smokinggun at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi Doug,
> >
> >  The last time Jay checked my signal it was on 187.20375. I don't expect
> my
> > signal to make it that far right now. I am trying to get a vertical
> antenna
> > to work on this terrible clay and rock soil. I was using a loop past few
> > seasons with some success. I was trying to get into the watering hole so
> I
> > have a better chance of being heard. I guess the crystal didn't like
> being
> > ground as far as it was.
> >
> >  Thanks and good luck!
> >
> >   Rick  KA2PBO
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:
> > lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> > On Behalf Of Douglas D. Williams
> > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 11:59
> > To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp, UK) and MedFer bands
> > Subject: Re: [Lowfer] PBO - going back home
> >
> > What is the home frequency, Rick? I don't think I've received your signal
> > yet this season and would like to give it a try tonight.
> >
> > 73, Doug KB4OER
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:34 PM, rick kirby <smokinggun at verizon.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >   Well the crystal I ground for the Watering Hole was too chirpy so I
> > went
> > > back to the home frequency. Maybe I will order one of those Epson
> > > oscillators.I don't have enough time right now to build a programmable
> > > exciter; maybe next season.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 73
> > >
> > >    Rick  KA2PBO
> > >
> > >
> > >
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From smokinggun at verizon.net  Sat Dec  1 10:21:48 2012
From: smokinggun at verizon.net (rick kirby)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 15:21:48 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] PBO - going back home
In-Reply-To: <CAE89MiS-L+_q0Qxy-p0g_OtcsaS4-p-2eP5+0OPL1Zw7NPrTzw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2905B9C72C2741B787726DB74EA57FA9@radioroom>

Thanks Lloyd!

 Nice capture. I hope to improve a little bit. I am trying a different
matching transformer today and eventually will build a class E amp to
squeeze out a little more efficiency.

 Thanks for looking!

  Rick  KA2PBO

-----Original Message-----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of lloyd chastant
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 15:02
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp, UK) and MedFer bands
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] PBO - going back home

10am in morning and getting copy on PBO
Lloyd W3NF


On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, rick kirby <smokinggun at verizon.net> wrote:

> Doug,
>  I am up to 50 radials right now but we had our first snow this week so
> guess any additional radials will be placed on top of the snow!
>  Well that orange clay probably helps make that college football team of
> your home state as tough as they are! And the clay has had no ill effects
> on
> my  adult beverage of choice : bourbon!
>
>  Thanks and Good Luck
>
>  Rick  KA2PBO
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:
> lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of Douglas D. Williams
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 12:34
> To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp, UK) and MedFer bands
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] PBO - going back home
>
> I'll give a listen tonight. From what I remember, I was in the null of
your
> loop antenna and still able to copy on occasion.
>
> As far as rocky, clay soil, we here in east TN wrote the book on that.
Know
> why they call it "Big Orange" country here? Because of the orange clay
soil
> we have. :-)
>
> I suppose your best bet is to lay down a lot of radials.
>
> 73, Doug KB4OER
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 7:25 AM, rick kirby <smokinggun at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi Doug,
> >
> >  The last time Jay checked my signal it was on 187.20375. I don't expect
> my
> > signal to make it that far right now. I am trying to get a vertical
> antenna
> > to work on this terrible clay and rock soil. I was using a loop past few
> > seasons with some success. I was trying to get into the watering hole so
> I
> > have a better chance of being heard. I guess the crystal didn't like
> being
> > ground as far as it was.
> >
> >  Thanks and good luck!
> >
> >   Rick  KA2PBO
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:
> > lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> > On Behalf Of Douglas D. Williams
> > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 11:59
> > To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp, UK) and MedFer bands
> > Subject: Re: [Lowfer] PBO - going back home
> >
> > What is the home frequency, Rick? I don't think I've received your
signal
> > yet this season and would like to give it a try tonight.
> >
> > 73, Doug KB4OER
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:34 PM, rick kirby <smokinggun at verizon.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >   Well the crystal I ground for the Watering Hole was too chirpy so I
> > went
> > > back to the home frequency. Maybe I will order one of those Epson
> > > oscillators.I don't have enough time right now to build a programmable
> > > exciter; maybe next season.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 73
> > >
> > >    Rick  KA2PBO
> > >
> > >
> > >
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From pbunn at matrixei.com  Sat Dec  1 11:47:41 2012
From: pbunn at matrixei.com (pbunn)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 16:47:41 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT
Message-ID: <uo9tnpr1qfjalrnjq64komk6.1354380459828@email.android.com>

WG2XCT will be transmitting in beacon Mode QRSS3 on 497.00 kHz from EM94bw in SC all day today.

Reports are appreciated

Pat
N4LTA 

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  1 11:52:04 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 08:52:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
Message-ID: <1354380724.87440.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Gave it a valiant run though.. Seeing the same carrier line
that is showing on Dex's grabber, but no signal from " JH " 
Don't totally give up on the vertical John.. They will work,
#1 is Radials for the RF to reference to..
#2 definitely construct a " variometer " if you haven't yet..
#3 I found the Low Pass Filter really helped to provide a 
match that the TX liked to work into..
#4 A Variable Power Supply for the Final PA.. There is a 
" sweet spot " that your transistors will like, and " JUMP " 
right up and shout out.. I found that my PA likes to run around
24 volts..
Tweaking the combination of these will give you pleasing results..

Good luck.. Andy - KU4XR

From wilbur0611 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 12:03:43 2012
From: wilbur0611 at gmail.com (John Hamer)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:03:43 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
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References: <1354380724.87440.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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The only thing I have not done is match the low pass filter. My wave is not
perfectly symmetrical on the scope. I have to get that taken care of.
On Dec 1, 2012 11:52 AM, "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Gave it a valiant run though.. Seeing the same carrier line
> that is showing on Dex's grabber, but no signal from " JH "
> Don't totally give up on the vertical John.. They will work,
> #1 is Radials for the RF to reference to..
> #2 definitely construct a " variometer " if you haven't yet..
> #3 I found the Low Pass Filter really helped to provide a
> match that the TX liked to work into..
> #4 A Variable Power Supply for the Final PA.. There is a
> " sweet spot " that your transistors will like, and " JUMP "
> right up and shout out.. I found that my PA likes to run around
> 24 volts..
> Tweaking the combination of these will give you pleasing results..
>
> Good luck.. Andy - KU4XR
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 12:06:10 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:06:10 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT
In-Reply-To: <uo9tnpr1qfjalrnjq64komk6.1354380459828@email.android.com>
References: <uo9tnpr1qfjalrnjq64komk6.1354380459828@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7auze2zg6=b4yK5byDUOuxEyAcko4rW_JDag7EF--h5SQ@mail.gmail.com>

Good copy here Pat. I even audibly copied your CW ID.

73, Doug KB4OER EM86ui




On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:47 AM, pbunn <pbunn at matrixei.com> wrote:

> WG2XCT will be transmitting in beacon Mode QRSS3 on 497.00 kHz from EM94bw
> in SC all day today.
>
> Reports are appreciated
>
> Pat
> N4LTA
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 12:13:05 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:13:05 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] PBO - going back home
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Snow? I just finished mowing my lawn.

Bourbon? We have plenty of that in TN also, but most here just call it
"whiskey". ;-)

73, Doug KB4OER

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 9:51 AM, rick kirby <smokinggun at verizon.net> wrote:

> Doug,
>  I am up to 50 radials right now but we had our first snow this week so
> guess any additional radials will be placed on top of the snow!
>  Well that orange clay probably helps make that college football team of
> your home state as tough as they are! And the clay has had no ill effects
> on
> my  adult beverage of choice : bourbon!
>
>  Thanks and Good Luck
>
>  Rick  KA2PBO
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:
> lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of Douglas D. Williams
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 12:34
> To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp, UK) and MedFer bands
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] PBO - going back home
>
> I'll give a listen tonight. From what I remember, I was in the null of your
> loop antenna and still able to copy on occasion.
>
> As far as rocky, clay soil, we here in east TN wrote the book on that. Know
> why they call it "Big Orange" country here? Because of the orange clay soil
> we have. :-)
>
> I suppose your best bet is to lay down a lot of radials.
>
> 73, Doug KB4OER
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 7:25 AM, rick kirby <smokinggun at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi Doug,
> >
> >  The last time Jay checked my signal it was on 187.20375. I don't expect
> my
> > signal to make it that far right now. I am trying to get a vertical
> antenna
> > to work on this terrible clay and rock soil. I was using a loop past few
> > seasons with some success. I was trying to get into the watering hole so
> I
> > have a better chance of being heard. I guess the crystal didn't like
> being
> > ground as far as it was.
> >
> >  Thanks and good luck!
> >
> >   Rick  KA2PBO
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:
> > lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> > On Behalf Of Douglas D. Williams
> > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 11:59
> > To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp, UK) and MedFer bands
> > Subject: Re: [Lowfer] PBO - going back home
> >
> > What is the home frequency, Rick? I don't think I've received your signal
> > yet this season and would like to give it a try tonight.
> >
> > 73, Doug KB4OER
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:34 PM, rick kirby <smokinggun at verizon.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >   Well the crystal I ground for the Watering Hole was too chirpy so I
> > went
> > > back to the home frequency. Maybe I will order one of those Epson
> > > oscillators.I don't have enough time right now to build a programmable
> > > exciter; maybe next season.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 73
> > >
> > >    Rick  KA2PBO
> > >
> > >
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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Sat Dec  1 12:31:55 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 17:31:55 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT
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thanks Doug

That?s a pretty good ground wave. A little over a hundred miles.
I'll send you a card.

Par

-----Original Message----- 
From: Douglas D. Williams
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 5:06 PM
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp,UK) and MedFer bands
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WG2XCT

Good copy here Pat. I even audibly copied your CW ID.

73, Doug KB4OER EM86ui




On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:47 AM, pbunn <pbunn at matrixei.com> wrote:

> WG2XCT will be transmitting in beacon Mode QRSS3 on 497.00 kHz from EM94bw
> in SC all day today.
>
> Reports are appreciated
>
> Pat
> N4LTA
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From wilbur0611 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 12:48:20 2012
From: wilbur0611 at gmail.com (John Hamer)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:48:20 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
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How far do you go with the ground radials? I have one 8 foot rod pointed
straight down and 4  five foot rods at a 45 degree angle into the ground
around the antenna.
On Dec 1, 2012 11:52 AM, "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Gave it a valiant run though.. Seeing the same carrier line
> that is showing on Dex's grabber, but no signal from " JH "
> Don't totally give up on the vertical John.. They will work,
> #1 is Radials for the RF to reference to..
> #2 definitely construct a " variometer " if you haven't yet..
> #3 I found the Low Pass Filter really helped to provide a
> match that the TX liked to work into..
> #4 A Variable Power Supply for the Final PA.. There is a
> " sweet spot " that your transistors will like, and " JUMP "
> right up and shout out.. I found that my PA likes to run around
> 24 volts..
> Tweaking the combination of these will give you pleasing results..
>
> Good luck.. Andy - KU4XR
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 13:32:15 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 13:32:15 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
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John, this PDF has a lot of good information.

http://www.auroralchorus.com/pli/1750meter_antennas.pdf


73, Doug KB4OER



On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 12:48 PM, John Hamer <wilbur0611 at gmail.com> wrote:

> How far do you go with the ground radials? I have one 8 foot rod pointed
> straight down and 4  five foot rods at a 45 degree angle into the ground
> around the antenna.
> On Dec 1, 2012 11:52 AM, "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Gave it a valiant run though.. Seeing the same carrier line
> > that is showing on Dex's grabber, but no signal from " JH "
> > Don't totally give up on the vertical John.. They will work,
> > #1 is Radials for the RF to reference to..
> > #2 definitely construct a " variometer " if you haven't yet..
> > #3 I found the Low Pass Filter really helped to provide a
> > match that the TX liked to work into..
> > #4 A Variable Power Supply for the Final PA.. There is a
> > " sweet spot " that your transistors will like, and " JUMP "
> > right up and shout out.. I found that my PA likes to run around
> > 24 volts..
> > Tweaking the combination of these will give you pleasing results..
> >
> > Good luck.. Andy - KU4XR
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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Sat Dec  1 09:44:06 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (Pat Bunn)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 09:44:06 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] remote "natural radio" receiver
Message-ID: <begx2bbhtsksrpq7ql0985cw.1354373046658@email.android.com>

The problem is that the audio wire will pick up common mode hum and noise. I definitely  would use a transformer.

 Maybe use cheap shielded TV cable for the audio feed plus the transformer. That's probably cheaper than two wire cable.


Pat
Pat

"Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:

>Hey Pat. No, I'll probably just use some 2 conductor wire for the audio
>feed to the sound card. I think I'll put the battery in my outbuilding and
>a solar panel on the roof to keep the battery charged. Radio shack might
>still sell those little audio isolation transformers for keeping the feed
>wires from carrying all the 60 Hz + harmonics out to the unit.
>
>I need to walk around my property with a portable RS4 just to see if I can
>find a location quiet enough to make this even worth the trouble.
>
>-Doug KB4OER
>
>On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:49 AM, pbunn <pbunn at matrixei.com> wrote:
>
>> Doug
>>
>> Are you going to run coax to the receiver? If so, you can use the coax to
>> feed the power from a battery. Rg6 is cheap and bury able . I'd put a
>> couple if common mode chokes in the kine also. They made more difference in
>> my receiving installation than anything I have done.
>>
>> Pat
>> N4LTA
>>
>> "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Years ago I built several of Michael Mideke's RS4 natural radio receivers.
>> I'm thinking of dismantling one of them down to the circuit board,
>> enclosing it in a waterproof box, and installing it on a mast perhaps 100'
>> from my house. I'll still get a lot of hum, but it might let me hear the
>> occasional whistler, dawn chorus, or other interesting signal from the
>> comfort of my house.
>>
>> I've been checking around, and 12v batteries and weatherproof solar
>> chargers seem to be everywhere these days, probably because so many folks
>> are installing solar lighting, hummingbird feeders, and game cameras.
>>
>> The RS4 has a very low current draw, and a mic or line level (not headphone
>> level) output, so it should be a good match for the mic or line level input
>> of a computer sound card. What I don't want to do is carry the 60 Hz hum
>> from the house to the remote RS4 via the sound card connection. What do you
>> guys think is the solution? Perhaps a couple of 1:1 audio
>> isolation transformers....one in the house and another near the RS4? Also,
>> anyone know of a source of inexpensive, buriable 2 wire cable?
>>
>> -Doug KB4OER
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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Sat Dec  1 11:39:21 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (Pat Bunn)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 11:39:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT
Message-ID: <ii6gfj9xw0irv21w0sw7qh6q.1354379961151@email.android.com>

WG2XCT is in beacon mode on 497.00 KHz all day today from EM 94 be in SC.

Reports are appreciated


Pat
N4LTA

From pbunn at patbunn.com  Sat Dec  1 13:53:20 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (Pat Bunn)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 13:53:20 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
Message-ID: <sdm9b32n7hfoub0tr949e6mw.1354388000860@email.android.com>

Ground rods are not a substitute for radials. At lf,  they need to be as long as you can make them and as many as you can afford. On my 600 meter antenna I have about 25 with the longest at 300 feet and an average length is probably 150 feet and I am just beginning to see the antenna Z begin to drop down  into the low 40 ohms. I add radials when I can usually buying a 1/4 mile role of #14 aluminum electric fence wire and putting it all out at one time.




Pat

n
N4LTA

John Hamer <wilbur0611 at gmail.com> wrote:

>How far do you go with the ground radials? I have one 8 foot rod pointed
>straight down and 4  five foot rods at a 45 degree angle into the ground
>around the antenna.
>On Dec 1, 2012 11:52 AM, "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Gave it a valiant run though.. Seeing the same carrier line
>> that is showing on Dex's grabber, but no signal from " JH "
>> Don't totally give up on the vertical John.. They will work,
>> #1 is Radials for the RF to reference to..
>> #2 definitely construct a " variometer " if you haven't yet..
>> #3 I found the Low Pass Filter really helped to provide a
>> match that the TX liked to work into..
>> #4 A Variable Power Supply for the Final PA.. There is a
>> " sweet spot " that your transistors will like, and " JUMP "
>> right up and shout out.. I found that my PA likes to run around
>> 24 volts..
>> Tweaking the combination of these will give you pleasing results..
>>
>> Good luck.. Andy - KU4XR
>> ______________________________________________________________
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From wilbur0611 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 14:11:16 2012
From: wilbur0611 at gmail.com (John Hamer)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 14:11:16 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
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Won't that put me over my 50 foot limit?
On Dec 1, 2012 1:54 PM, "Pat Bunn" <pbunn at patbunn.com> wrote:

> Ground rods are not a substitute for radials. At lf,  they need to be as
> long as you can make them and as many as you can afford. On my 600 meter
> antenna I have about 25 with the longest at 300 feet and an average length
> is probably 150 feet and I am just beginning to see the antenna Z begin to
> drop down  into the low 40 ohms. I add radials when I can usually buying a
> 1/4 mile role of #14 aluminum electric fence wire and putting it all out at
> one time.
>
>
>
>
> Pat
>
> n
> N4LTA
>
> John Hamer <wilbur0611 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >How far do you go with the ground radials? I have one 8 foot rod pointed
> >straight down and 4  five foot rods at a 45 degree angle into the ground
> >around the antenna.
> >On Dec 1, 2012 11:52 AM, "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Gave it a valiant run though.. Seeing the same carrier line
> >> that is showing on Dex's grabber, but no signal from " JH "
> >> Don't totally give up on the vertical John.. They will work,
> >> #1 is Radials for the RF to reference to..
> >> #2 definitely construct a " variometer " if you haven't yet..
> >> #3 I found the Low Pass Filter really helped to provide a
> >> match that the TX liked to work into..
> >> #4 A Variable Power Supply for the Final PA.. There is a
> >> " sweet spot " that your transistors will like, and " JUMP "
> >> right up and shout out.. I found that my PA likes to run around
> >> 24 volts..
> >> Tweaking the combination of these will give you pleasing results..
> >>
> >> Good luck.. Andy - KU4XR
> >> ______________________________________________________________
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Dec  1 14:11:51 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 14:11:51 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Nov 30 - Dec 01 Navtex
In-Reply-To: <begx2bbhtsksrpq7ql0985cw.1354373046658@email.android.com>
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Hello Lowfers,

I finally thought to check my Navtex decodes overnight Friday-Satuday and found
clean decodes of "I", Upernvik, Greenland and "R" in Puerto Rico.  Not bad Dx for
early in the season!  Of course the usual "regulars" where there too.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  1 14:25:15 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 11:25:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
In-Reply-To: <CA+jjR7cg2axQ2Yw73xON1xAHE7PWncbbT+YCp1mOdasqRML10w@mail.gmail.com>
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John:  I trust you got my email I sent directly to you..
I could not get the links to post for some reason...
Generally speaking ( meaning personal intrepretation of Part-15 )
Most don't consider the " Radials " on the earth to be part of
the Antenna itself.. Only the wire you use to connect the TX
to the radial system is included in the 50' length.. Much debate
can of course arise on the subject..
Andy - KU4XR

--- On Sat, 12/1/12, John Hamer <wilbur0611 at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: John Hamer <wilbur0611 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &, UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Saturday, December 1, 2012, 2:11 PM
> Won't that put me over my 50 foot
> limit?
> On Dec 1, 2012 1:54 PM, "Pat Bunn" <pbunn at patbunn.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Ground rods are not a substitute for radials. At
> lf,? they need to be as
> > long as you can make them and as many as you can
> afford. On my 600 meter
> > antenna I have about 25 with the longest at 300 feet
> and an average length
> > is probably 150 feet and I am just beginning to see the
> antenna Z begin to
> > drop down? into the low 40 ohms. I add radials
> when I can usually buying a
> > 1/4 mile role of #14 aluminum electric fence wire and
> putting it all out at
> > one time.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Pat
> >
> > n
> > N4LTA
> >
> > John Hamer <wilbur0611 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >How far do you go with the ground radials? I have
> one 8 foot rod pointed
> > >straight down and 4? five foot rods at a 45
> degree angle into the ground
> > >around the antenna.
> > >On Dec 1, 2012 11:52 AM, "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Gave it a valiant run though.. Seeing the same
> carrier line
> > >> that is showing on Dex's grabber, but no
> signal from " JH "
> > >> Don't totally give up on the vertical John..
> They will work,
> > >> #1 is Radials for the RF to reference to..
> > >> #2 definitely construct a " variometer " if
> you haven't yet..
> > >> #3 I found the Low Pass Filter really helped
> to provide a
> > >> match that the TX liked to work into..
> > >> #4 A Variable Power Supply for the Final PA..
> There is a
> > >> " sweet spot " that your transistors will
> like, and " JUMP "
> > >> right up and shout out.. I found that my PA
> likes to run around
> > >> 24 volts..
> > >> Tweaking the combination of these will give
> you pleasing results..
> > >>
> > >> Good luck.. Andy - KU4XR
> > >>
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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Sat Dec  1 14:51:55 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (Pat Bunn)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:51:55 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
Message-ID: <ernx9lgeq2grliscf7p3idfn.1354391515330@email.android.com>

Never built a part 15 antenna but I would think the radials are not a part of the antenna element.  Don't take my word for it though. 

Pat

John Hamer <wilbur0611 at gmail.com> wrote:

>Won't that put me over my 50 foot limit?
>On Dec 1, 2012 1:54 PM, "Pat Bunn" <pbunn at patbunn.com> wrote:
>
>> Ground rods are not a substitute for radials. At lf,  they need to be as
>> long as you can make them and as many as you can afford. On my 600 meter
>> antenna I have about 25 with the longest at 300 feet and an average length
>> is probably 150 feet and I am just beginning to see the antenna Z begin to
>> drop down  into the low 40 ohms. I add radials when I can usually buying a
>> 1/4 mile role of #14 aluminum electric fence wire and putting it all out at
>> one time.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Pat
>>
>> n
>> N4LTA
>>
>> John Hamer <wilbur0611 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >How far do you go with the ground radials? I have one 8 foot rod pointed
>> >straight down and 4  five foot rods at a 45 degree angle into the ground
>> >around the antenna.
>> >On Dec 1, 2012 11:52 AM, "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Gave it a valiant run though.. Seeing the same carrier line
>> >> that is showing on Dex's grabber, but no signal from " JH "
>> >> Don't totally give up on the vertical John.. They will work,
>> >> #1 is Radials for the RF to reference to..
>> >> #2 definitely construct a " variometer " if you haven't yet..
>> >> #3 I found the Low Pass Filter really helped to provide a
>> >> match that the TX liked to work into..
>> >> #4 A Variable Power Supply for the Final PA.. There is a
>> >> " sweet spot " that your transistors will like, and " JUMP "
>> >> right up and shout out.. I found that my PA likes to run around
>> >> 24 volts..
>> >> Tweaking the combination of these will give you pleasing results..
>> >>
>> >> Good luck.. Andy - KU4XR
>> >> ______________________________________________________________
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From wilbur0611 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 14:54:55 2012
From: wilbur0611 at gmail.com (John Hamer)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 14:54:55 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
In-Reply-To: <ernx9lgeq2grliscf7p3idfn.1354391515330@email.android.com>
References: <ernx9lgeq2grliscf7p3idfn.1354391515330@email.android.com>
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Ok. I ll do that. That will help a lot
On Dec 1, 2012 2:52 PM, "Pat Bunn" <pbunn at patbunn.com> wrote:

> Never built a part 15 antenna but I would think the radials are not a part
> of the antenna element.  Don't take my word for it though.
>
> Pat
>
> John Hamer <wilbur0611 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Won't that put me over my 50 foot limit?
> >On Dec 1, 2012 1:54 PM, "Pat Bunn" <pbunn at patbunn.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Ground rods are not a substitute for radials. At lf,  they need to be as
> >> long as you can make them and as many as you can afford. On my 600 meter
> >> antenna I have about 25 with the longest at 300 feet and an average
> length
> >> is probably 150 feet and I am just beginning to see the antenna Z begin
> to
> >> drop down  into the low 40 ohms. I add radials when I can usually
> buying a
> >> 1/4 mile role of #14 aluminum electric fence wire and putting it all
> out at
> >> one time.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Pat
> >>
> >> n
> >> N4LTA
> >>
> >> John Hamer <wilbur0611 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >How far do you go with the ground radials? I have one 8 foot rod
> pointed
> >> >straight down and 4  five foot rods at a 45 degree angle into the
> ground
> >> >around the antenna.
> >> >On Dec 1, 2012 11:52 AM, "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Gave it a valiant run though.. Seeing the same carrier line
> >> >> that is showing on Dex's grabber, but no signal from " JH "
> >> >> Don't totally give up on the vertical John.. They will work,
> >> >> #1 is Radials for the RF to reference to..
> >> >> #2 definitely construct a " variometer " if you haven't yet..
> >> >> #3 I found the Low Pass Filter really helped to provide a
> >> >> match that the TX liked to work into..
> >> >> #4 A Variable Power Supply for the Final PA.. There is a
> >> >> " sweet spot " that your transistors will like, and " JUMP "
> >> >> right up and shout out.. I found that my PA likes to run around
> >> >> 24 volts..
> >> >> Tweaking the combination of these will give you pleasing results..
> >> >>
> >> >> Good luck.. Andy - KU4XR
> >> >> ______________________________________________________________
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From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 15:00:13 2012
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 20:00:13 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] 137
Message-ID: <CAE89MiSS8CXhJ-VWnu+ARzi=J+5-ZJk8mB27CFV9sLctxvpHBA@mail.gmail.com>

nice afternoon copy hr
lloyd W3NF
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec  1 15:12:10 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:12:10 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
Message-ID: <50BA649A.9090309@sbcglobal.net>

> Ground rods are not a substitute for radials. At lf,  they need to be as long as you can make them
and as many as you can afford.

I beg to disagree. Page 3 of The Lowdown, July 1980 article by Ed 
Phillips (available for download at 
http://www.maxmcarter.com/lwantennas/index.html) cites the following 
conclusions of E.A.Laporte's 1952 study of ground systems:

(1) "... radials of length equal to the antenna height are almost as 
good as those of infinite length, and that a length of half the antenna 
height (outside diameter of radial system equal to antenna height) is 
about 2/3 as effective as very great length."

and

(2) "... 2 radials are about half as good as a very large number, and 16 
radials are within a few percent of being as good as 112.

Thus, one need not fear that thousands of feet of radials are necessary 
to produce a lowfer that can be heard out of the back yard. I'm quite 
happy with the performance of my lowfer vertical antenna of 35' height, 
15' tophat, and 8 x 35' radials (4 of which are terminated by 4' ground 
rods; a pair of 8' ground rods are located at the antenna base).

-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec  1 15:23:06 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:23:06 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Nov 30 - Dec 01 Navtex
Message-ID: <50BA672A.5090309@sbcglobal.net>

FB on the Navtex reception J.B. I've been monitoring 518 kHz a fair bit 
since lowfer reception is poor compared to last year. That may be extra 
noise at my QTH but I noted that WE2XGR/6 has found a lack of European 
DX this season on 500 kHz WSPR too.

I checked my logs for Nov 30 - Dec 01 and find decodes for:

Area 4: A,B,C,E,F,G,H,N,R,U,X    Area 12: C,D,H,W

Did decode Greenland a few days ago and also Kodiak, but it's been weeks 
since decoding Honolulu. Overall for me conditions seem down somewhat 
from last year.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From pbunn at patbunn.com  Sat Dec  1 15:28:19 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 20:28:19 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
In-Reply-To: <50BA649A.9090309@sbcglobal.net>
References: <50BA649A.9090309@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <FB3171DF09104D2B9C0CC3075AA8F5B4@PatBunnShopPC>

I have read that article, but there are others who have done testing that 
did not come to that conclusion.

I would say that they need to be at least as long as the antenna height   - 
I don't think that you will find LF antennas many with radials limited to 
that length.

1/4 wave is the generally accepted length for a full size antenna.  Anything 
longer might not be worthwhile. My question is  -  was Laporte's study 
testing very short antennas or 1/4 or 5/8" broadcast antennas.
I don't know that answer, But my 500 khz radials will not be limited to 53 
feet.

Pat
N4LTA

-----Original Message----- 
From: Garry Hess
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:12 PM
To: lowfer list
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH

> Ground rods are not a substitute for radials. At lf,  they need to be as 
> long as you can make them
and as many as you can afford.

I beg to disagree. Page 3 of The Lowdown, July 1980 article by Ed
Phillips (available for download at
http://www.maxmcarter.com/lwantennas/index.html) cites the following
conclusions of E.A.Laporte's 1952 study of ground systems:

(1) "... radials of length equal to the antenna height are almost as
good as those of infinite length, and that a length of half the antenna
height (outside diameter of radial system equal to antenna height) is
about 2/3 as effective as very great length."

and

(2) "... 2 radials are about half as good as a very large number, and 16
radials are within a few percent of being as good as 112.

Thus, one need not fear that thousands of feet of radials are necessary
to produce a lowfer that can be heard out of the back yard. I'm quite
happy with the performance of my lowfer vertical antenna of 35' height,
15' tophat, and 8 x 35' radials (4 of which are terminated by 4' ground
rods; a pair of 8' ground rods are located at the antenna base).

-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Sat Dec  1 15:31:09 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 20:31:09 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
In-Reply-To: <50BA649A.9090309@sbcglobal.net>
References: <50BA649A.9090309@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <78A1CBF063A74F9793FD10A9887A2776@PatBunnShopPC>

I would recommend reading the excellent QEX articles on radials  that were 
published over the last few years. They did extensive testing with short, 
long and skewed radials as well as elevated radials.

Pat
N4LTA

-----Original Message----- 
From: Garry Hess
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:12 PM
To: lowfer list
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH

> Ground rods are not a substitute for radials. At lf,  they need to be as 
> long as you can make them
and as many as you can afford.

I beg to disagree. Page 3 of The Lowdown, July 1980 article by Ed
Phillips (available for download at
http://www.maxmcarter.com/lwantennas/index.html) cites the following
conclusions of E.A.Laporte's 1952 study of ground systems:

(1) "... radials of length equal to the antenna height are almost as
good as those of infinite length, and that a length of half the antenna
height (outside diameter of radial system equal to antenna height) is
about 2/3 as effective as very great length."

and

(2) "... 2 radials are about half as good as a very large number, and 16
radials are within a few percent of being as good as 112.

Thus, one need not fear that thousands of feet of radials are necessary
to produce a lowfer that can be heard out of the back yard. I'm quite
happy with the performance of my lowfer vertical antenna of 35' height,
15' tophat, and 8 x 35' radials (4 of which are terminated by 4' ground
rods; a pair of 8' ground rods are located at the antenna base).

-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Sat Dec  1 15:55:37 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 15:55:37 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 137
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Certainly is that - thanks lloyd

Mitch
On 2012-12-01, at 3:00 PM, lloyd chastant wrote:

> nice afternoon copy hr
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From w1tag at charter.net  Sat Dec  1 16:26:37 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 16:26:37 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
In-Reply-To: <78A1CBF063A74F9793FD10A9887A2776@PatBunnShopPC>
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	<78A1CBF063A74F9793FD10A9887A2776@PatBunnShopPC>
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Pat,

Those articles were excellent. But I don't recall if they were aimed at 
5 foot verticals on 160 meters or 2.5 foot versions on 80 meters. That's 
the kind of scaling that Garry was talking about. A 50 foot antenna at 
actual LF (185 kHz) is going to be very inefficient with any practical 
ground system for amateur/experimental use. His point was that you can 
only go out just so far on typical house lots or small fields, and the 
concept of diminishing returns seems to come into play.

And since most of us have to put up with nearby houses, trees and 
shrubs, ground wires are only going to help to a certain extent. I 
really don't think that some of this can be modeled well at HF. For 
example, "ground" is mostly resistive at 185 kHz, but has significant 
dielectric properties at 3 MHz. Some of the older literature really 
isn't all that useful - Laporte wrote mostly of large 
commercial/government installations, and George Brown did most of his 
work just below 80 meters.

John, W1TAG

On 12/1/2012 3:31 PM, pbunn at patbunn.com wrote:
> I would recommend reading the excellent QEX articles on radials  that
> were published over the last few years. They did extensive testing with
> short, long and skewed radials as well as elevated radials.
>
> Pat
> N4LTA
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Garry Hess
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:12 PM
> To: lowfer list
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
>
>> Ground rods are not a substitute for radials. At lf,  they need to be
>> as long as you can make them
> and as many as you can afford.
>
> I beg to disagree. Page 3 of The Lowdown, July 1980 article by Ed
> Phillips (available for download at
> http://www.maxmcarter.com/lwantennas/index.html) cites the following
> conclusions of E.A.Laporte's 1952 study of ground systems:
>
> (1) "... radials of length equal to the antenna height are almost as
> good as those of infinite length, and that a length of half the antenna
> height (outside diameter of radial system equal to antenna height) is
> about 2/3 as effective as very great length."
>
> and
>
> (2) "... 2 radials are about half as good as a very large number, and 16
> radials are within a few percent of being as good as 112.
>
> Thus, one need not fear that thousands of feet of radials are necessary
> to produce a lowfer that can be heard out of the back yard. I'm quite
> happy with the performance of my lowfer vertical antenna of 35' height,
> 15' tophat, and 8 x 35' radials (4 of which are terminated by 4' ground
> rods; a pair of 8' ground rods are located at the antenna base).
>
>
>
>
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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Sat Dec  1 16:31:58 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 21:31:58 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
In-Reply-To: <50BA760D.2090802@charter.net>
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	<50BA760D.2090802@charter.net>
Message-ID: <DC70F9C15AF54C4094074D8E0A12EC37@PatBunnShopPC>

John,

I agree that some of the test data is not scalable, but I do not agree that 
radials should be limited to the height of the antenna (especially if it is 
5 feet high) nor do I agree that two radials is half as good as many. If 
that were the case, I'd double my power and forget about it.

I was trying to get the point across to John is that one 8' ground rod and 
4 -  5' rods will not be very effective. He needs some radials and if he 
adds some he will improve his ERP. I certainly was not telling him he needed 
2000 foot length radials - "as long as you can make them" for most people is 
a couple hundred feet.



Pat Bunn
N4LTA



-----Original Message----- 
From: John Andrews
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 9:26 PM
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH

Pat,

Those articles were excellent. But I don't recall if they were aimed at
5 foot verticals on 160 meters or 2.5 foot versions on 80 meters. That's
the kind of scaling that Garry was talking about. A 50 foot antenna at
actual LF (185 kHz) is going to be very inefficient with any practical
ground system for amateur/experimental use. His point was that you can
only go out just so far on typical house lots or small fields, and the
concept of diminishing returns seems to come into play.

And since most of us have to put up with nearby houses, trees and
shrubs, ground wires are only going to help to a certain extent. I
really don't think that some of this can be modeled well at HF. For
example, "ground" is mostly resistive at 185 kHz, but has significant
dielectric properties at 3 MHz. Some of the older literature really
isn't all that useful - Laporte wrote mostly of large
commercial/government installations, and George Brown did most of his
work just below 80 meters.

John, W1TAG

On 12/1/2012 3:31 PM, pbunn at patbunn.com wrote:
> I would recommend reading the excellent QEX articles on radials  that
> were published over the last few years. They did extensive testing with
> short, long and skewed radials as well as elevated radials.
>
> Pat
> N4LTA
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Garry Hess
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:12 PM
> To: lowfer list
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
>
>> Ground rods are not a substitute for radials. At lf,  they need to be
>> as long as you can make them
> and as many as you can afford.
>
> I beg to disagree. Page 3 of The Lowdown, July 1980 article by Ed
> Phillips (available for download at
> http://www.maxmcarter.com/lwantennas/index.html) cites the following
> conclusions of E.A.Laporte's 1952 study of ground systems:
>
> (1) "... radials of length equal to the antenna height are almost as
> good as those of infinite length, and that a length of half the antenna
> height (outside diameter of radial system equal to antenna height) is
> about 2/3 as effective as very great length."
>
> and
>
> (2) "... 2 radials are about half as good as a very large number, and 16
> radials are within a few percent of being as good as 112.
>
> Thus, one need not fear that thousands of feet of radials are necessary
> to produce a lowfer that can be heard out of the back yard. I'm quite
> happy with the performance of my lowfer vertical antenna of 35' height,
> 15' tophat, and 8 x 35' radials (4 of which are terminated by 4' ground
> rods; a pair of 8' ground rods are located at the antenna base).
>
>
>
>
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From vk7zl at internode.on.net  Sat Dec  1 17:34:12 2012
From: vk7zl at internode.on.net (Bob)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 22:34:12 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] remote "natural radio" receiver
In-Reply-To: <begx2bbhtsksrpq7ql0985cw.1354373046658@email.android.com>
References: <begx2bbhtsksrpq7ql0985cw.1354373046658@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <50BA85E4.9000106@internode.on.net>

Doug

You could use CAT5 cable. One pair for audio & one pair for DC.

Bob  VK7ZL

On 1/12/2012 14:44, Pat Bunn wrote:
> The problem is that the audio wire will pick up common mode hum and noise. I definitely  would use a transformer.
>
>   Maybe use cheap shielded TV cable for the audio feed plus the transformer. That's probably cheaper than two wire cable.
>
>
> Pat
>

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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sat Dec  1 18:40:48 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 18:40:48 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT @ 497.0 just starting to copy in EN90xn
Message-ID: <182B5F1006B44ED9A2E197C0E3BEE945@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All: Even MF propagation just starting here...

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/xct121a.jpg

73  Mike wa3tts

From w1tag at charter.net  Sat Dec  1 18:46:17 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 18:46:17 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
In-Reply-To: <DC70F9C15AF54C4094074D8E0A12EC37@PatBunnShopPC>
References: <50BA649A.9090309@sbcglobal.net><78A1CBF063A74F9793FD10A9887A2776@PatBunnShopPC>
	<50BA760D.2090802@charter.net>
	<DC70F9C15AF54C4094074D8E0A12EC37@PatBunnShopPC>
Message-ID: <50BA96C9.7010605@charter.net>

Pat,

Just one additional thought - I wouldn't use 5 foot radials either! But 
the issue for most of us is that our land doesn't scale with the 
wavelengths we use. I could only dream about radials a couple hundred 
feet long. Of course, that's part of the reason that I've stuck with 
loops in all these nasty trees.

John, W1TAG

On 12/1/2012 4:31 PM, pbunn at patbunn.com wrote:
> John,
>
> I agree that some of the test data is not scalable, but I do not agree
> that radials should be limited to the height of the antenna (especially
> if it is 5 feet high) nor do I agree that two radials is half as good as
> many. If that were the case, I'd double my power and forget about it.
>
> I was trying to get the point across to John is that one 8' ground rod
> and 4 -  5' rods will not be very effective. He needs some radials and
> if he adds some he will improve his ERP. I certainly was not telling him
> he needed 2000 foot length radials - "as long as you can make them" for
> most people is a couple hundred feet.
>
>
>
> Pat Bunn
> N4LTA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: John Andrews
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 9:26 PM
> To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
>
> Pat,
>
> Those articles were excellent. But I don't recall if they were aimed at
> 5 foot verticals on 160 meters or 2.5 foot versions on 80 meters. That's
> the kind of scaling that Garry was talking about. A 50 foot antenna at
> actual LF (185 kHz) is going to be very inefficient with any practical
> ground system for amateur/experimental use. His point was that you can
> only go out just so far on typical house lots or small fields, and the
> concept of diminishing returns seems to come into play.
>
> And since most of us have to put up with nearby houses, trees and
> shrubs, ground wires are only going to help to a certain extent. I
> really don't think that some of this can be modeled well at HF. For
> example, "ground" is mostly resistive at 185 kHz, but has significant
> dielectric properties at 3 MHz. Some of the older literature really
> isn't all that useful - Laporte wrote mostly of large
> commercial/government installations, and George Brown did most of his
> work just below 80 meters.
>
> John, W1TAG
>
> On 12/1/2012 3:31 PM, pbunn at patbunn.com wrote:
>> I would recommend reading the excellent QEX articles on radials  that
>> were published over the last few years. They did extensive testing with
>> short, long and skewed radials as well as elevated radials.
>>
>> Pat
>> N4LTA
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Garry Hess
>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:12 PM
>> To: lowfer list
>> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
>>
>>> Ground rods are not a substitute for radials. At lf,  they need to be
>>> as long as you can make them
>> and as many as you can afford.
>>
>> I beg to disagree. Page 3 of The Lowdown, July 1980 article by Ed
>> Phillips (available for download at
>> http://www.maxmcarter.com/lwantennas/index.html) cites the following
>> conclusions of E.A.Laporte's 1952 study of ground systems:
>>
>> (1) "... radials of length equal to the antenna height are almost as
>> good as those of infinite length, and that a length of half the antenna
>> height (outside diameter of radial system equal to antenna height) is
>> about 2/3 as effective as very great length."
>>
>> and
>>
>> (2) "... 2 radials are about half as good as a very large number, and 16
>> radials are within a few percent of being as good as 112.
>>
>> Thus, one need not fear that thousands of feet of radials are necessary
>> to produce a lowfer that can be heard out of the back yard. I'm quite
>> happy with the performance of my lowfer vertical antenna of 35' height,
>> 15' tophat, and 8 x 35' radials (4 of which are terminated by 4' ground
>> rods; a pair of 8' ground rods are located at the antenna base).
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From w1tag at charter.net  Sat Dec  1 18:52:53 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 18:52:53 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XES 137.779
Message-ID: <50BA9855.7030102@charter.net>

Exercising the repaired Hafler amplifier tonight with DFCW90 on 137.779 
kHz until around 0330Z. Want to keep an eye on it.

John, W1TAG / WD2XES

From pbunn at patbunn.com  Sat Dec  1 20:16:50 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (Pat Bunn)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 20:16:50 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
Message-ID: <oo53rokwmdhtu129asshqvjr.1354411010545@email.android.com>

Heck  John

I thought I was in a bad place under a hardwood canopy. From everything I read , I thought it was a lost cause. I seem to be doing OK , so my advise would be put up an antenna  and give it a try. I sure am having fun.

Pat

John Andrews <w1tag at charter.net> wrote:

>Pat,
>
>Just one additional thought - I wouldn't use 5 foot radials either! But 
>the issue for most of us is that our land doesn't scale with the 
>wavelengths we use. I could only dream about radials a couple hundred 
>feet long. Of course, that's part of the reason that I've stuck with 
>loops in all these nasty trees.
>
>John, W1TAG
>
>On 12/1/2012 4:31 PM, pbunn at patbunn.com wrote:
>> John,
>>
>> I agree that some of the test data is not scalable, but I do not agree
>> that radials should be limited to the height of the antenna (especially
>> if it is 5 feet high) nor do I agree that two radials is half as good as
>> many. If that were the case, I'd double my power and forget about it.
>>
>> I was trying to get the point across to John is that one 8' ground rod
>> and 4 -  5' rods will not be very effective. He needs some radials and
>> if he adds some he will improve his ERP. I certainly was not telling him
>> he needed 2000 foot length radials - "as long as you can make them" for
>> most people is a couple hundred feet.
>>
>>
>>
>> Pat Bunn
>> N4LTA
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: John Andrews
>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 9:26 PM
>> To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands
>> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
>>
>> Pat,
>>
>> Those articles were excellent. But I don't recall if they were aimed at
>> 5 foot verticals on 160 meters or 2.5 foot versions on 80 meters. That's
>> the kind of scaling that Garry was talking about. A 50 foot antenna at
>> actual LF (185 kHz) is going to be very inefficient with any practical
>> ground system for amateur/experimental use. His point was that you can
>> only go out just so far on typical house lots or small fields, and the
>> concept of diminishing returns seems to come into play.
>>
>> And since most of us have to put up with nearby houses, trees and
>> shrubs, ground wires are only going to help to a certain extent. I
>> really don't think that some of this can be modeled well at HF. For
>> example, "ground" is mostly resistive at 185 kHz, but has significant
>> dielectric properties at 3 MHz. Some of the older literature really
>> isn't all that useful - Laporte wrote mostly of large
>> commercial/government installations, and George Brown did most of his
>> work just below 80 meters.
>>
>> John, W1TAG
>>
>> On 12/1/2012 3:31 PM, pbunn at patbunn.com wrote:
>>> I would recommend reading the excellent QEX articles on radials  that
>>> were published over the last few years. They did extensive testing with
>>> short, long and skewed radials as well as elevated radials.
>>>
>>> Pat
>>> N4LTA
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Garry Hess
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:12 PM
>>> To: lowfer list
>>> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
>>>
>>>> Ground rods are not a substitute for radials. At lf,  they need to be
>>>> as long as you can make them
>>> and as many as you can afford.
>>>
>>> I beg to disagree. Page 3 of The Lowdown, July 1980 article by Ed
>>> Phillips (available for download at
>>> http://www.maxmcarter.com/lwantennas/index.html) cites the following
>>> conclusions of E.A.Laporte's 1952 study of ground systems:
>>>
>>> (1) "... radials of length equal to the antenna height are almost as
>>> good as those of infinite length, and that a length of half the antenna
>>> height (outside diameter of radial system equal to antenna height) is
>>> about 2/3 as effective as very great length."
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> (2) "... 2 radials are about half as good as a very large number, and 16
>>> radials are within a few percent of being as good as 112.
>>>
>>> Thus, one need not fear that thousands of feet of radials are necessary
>>> to produce a lowfer that can be heard out of the back yard. I'm quite
>>> happy with the performance of my lowfer vertical antenna of 35' height,
>>> 15' tophat, and 8 x 35' radials (4 of which are terminated by 4' ground
>>> rods; a pair of 8' ground rods are located at the antenna base).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Sat Dec  1 20:44:02 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (K2ORS)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 20:44:02 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XES 137.779
References: <50BA9855.7030102@charter.net>
Message-ID: <49C1AF52D20F4D24906EB7C76B300FC3@DC66PRF1>

John,
   What happened to the Hafler?
73 K2ORS

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag at charter.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 6:52 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XES 137.779


> Exercising the repaired Hafler amplifier tonight with DFCW90 on 137.779 
> kHz until around 0330Z. Want to keep an eye on it.
>
> John, W1TAG / WD2XES
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From evp at pacbell.net  Sat Dec  1 20:47:12 2012
From: evp at pacbell.net (Ed Phillips)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 17:47:12 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] remote "natural radio" receiver
In-Reply-To: <begx2bbhtsksrpq7ql0985cw.1354373046658@email.android.com>
References: <begx2bbhtsksrpq7ql0985cw.1354373046658@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <50BAB320.5020405@pacbell.net>

Steve McGreevy, who's making them now [original design was Frank 
Cathell's, not Mikes] put one out on the desrt about a mile or so from 
his house and uses a low-power FM link to bring it into the shack.  
Works really well.  Lots of neat recordings on his 'Sounds of Natural 
Radio' web site.

Ed

Pat Bunn wrote:

>The problem is that the audio wire will pick up common mode hum and noise. I definitely  would use a transformer.
>
> Maybe use cheap shielded TV cable for the audio feed plus the transformer. That's probably cheaper than two wire cable.
>
>
>Pat
>Pat
>
>"Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hey Pat. No, I'll probably just use some 2 conductor wire for the audio
>>feed to the sound card. I think I'll put the battery in my outbuilding and
>>a solar panel on the roof to keep the battery charged. Radio shack might
>>still sell those little audio isolation transformers for keeping the feed
>>wires from carrying all the 60 Hz + harmonics out to the unit.
>>
>>I need to walk around my property with a portable RS4 just to see if I can
>>find a location quiet enough to make this even worth the trouble.
>>
>>-Doug KB4OER
>>
>>On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:49 AM, pbunn <pbunn at matrixei.com> wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Doug
>>>
>>>Are you going to run coax to the receiver? If so, you can use the coax to
>>>feed the power from a battery. Rg6 is cheap and bury able . I'd put a
>>>couple if common mode chokes in the kine also. They made more difference in
>>>my receiving installation than anything I have done.
>>>
>>>Pat
>>>N4LTA
>>>
>>>"Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Years ago I built several of Michael Mideke's RS4 natural radio receivers.
>>>I'm thinking of dismantling one of them down to the circuit board,
>>>enclosing it in a waterproof box, and installing it on a mast perhaps 100'
>>>from my house. I'll still get a lot of hum, but it might let me hear the
>>>occasional whistler, dawn chorus, or other interesting signal from the
>>>comfort of my house.
>>>
>>>I've been checking around, and 12v batteries and weatherproof solar
>>>chargers seem to be everywhere these days, probably because so many folks
>>>are installing solar lighting, hummingbird feeders, and game cameras.
>>>
>>>The RS4 has a very low current draw, and a mic or line level (not headphone
>>>level) output, so it should be a good match for the mic or line level input
>>>of a computer sound card. What I don't want to do is carry the 60 Hz hum
>>>from the house to the remote RS4 via the sound card connection. What do you
>>>guys think is the solution? Perhaps a couple of 1:1 audio
>>>isolation transformers....one in the house and another near the RS4? Also,
>>>anyone know of a source of inexpensive, buriable 2 wire cable?
>>>
>>>-Doug KB4OER
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From turner at ussc.com  Sat Dec  1 20:59:26 2012
From: turner at ussc.com (Clint Turner)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 18:59:26 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] remote "natural radio" receiver
In-Reply-To: <50BAB320.5020405@pacbell.net>
References: <begx2bbhtsksrpq7ql0985cw.1354373046658@email.android.com>
	<50BAB320.5020405@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <50BAB5FE.5070405@ussc.com>

FWIW, some of Steve's recordings of "Natural Radio" may be heard in the 
background of this rather cool video:

http://www.semiconductorfilms.com/root/Magnetic_Movie/Magnetic.htm

73,

Clint
KA7OEI/CT



Ed Phillips wrote:
> Steve McGreevy, who's making them now [original design was Frank 
> Cathell's, not Mikes] put one out on the desrt about a mile or so from 
> his house and uses a low-power FM link to bring it into the shack.  
> Works really well.  Lots of neat recordings on his 'Sounds of Natural 
> Radio' web site.
>
> Ed
>
> Pat Bunn wrote:
>
>> The problem is that the audio wire will pick up common mode hum and 
>> noise. I definitely  would use a transformer.
>>
>> Maybe use cheap shielded TV cable for the audio feed plus the 
>> transformer. That's probably cheaper than two wire cable.
>>
>>
>> Pat
>> Pat
>>
>> "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hey Pat. No, I'll probably just use some 2 conductor wire for the audio
>>> feed to the sound card. I think I'll put the battery in my 
>>> outbuilding and
>>> a solar panel on the roof to keep the battery charged. Radio shack 
>>> might
>>> still sell those little audio isolation transformers for keeping the 
>>> feed
>>> wires from carrying all the 60 Hz + harmonics out to the unit.
>>>
>>> I need to walk around my property with a portable RS4 just to see if 
>>> I can
>>> find a location quiet enough to make this even worth the trouble.
>>>
>>> -Doug KB4OER
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:49 AM, pbunn <pbunn at matrixei.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>> Are you going to run coax to the receiver? If so, you can use the 
>>>> coax to
>>>> feed the power from a battery. Rg6 is cheap and bury able . I'd put a
>>>> couple if common mode chokes in the kine also. They made more 
>>>> difference in
>>>> my receiving installation than anything I have done.
>>>>
>>>> Pat
>>>> N4LTA
>>>>
>>>> "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Years ago I built several of Michael Mideke's RS4 natural radio 
>>>> receivers.
>>>> I'm thinking of dismantling one of them down to the circuit board,
>>>> enclosing it in a waterproof box, and installing it on a mast 
>>>> perhaps 100'
>>>> from my house. I'll still get a lot of hum, but it might let me 
>>>> hear the
>>>> occasional whistler, dawn chorus, or other interesting signal from the
>>>> comfort of my house.
>>>>
>>>> I've been checking around, and 12v batteries and weatherproof solar
>>>> chargers seem to be everywhere these days, probably because so many 
>>>> folks
>>>> are installing solar lighting, hummingbird feeders, and game cameras.
>>>>
>>>> The RS4 has a very low current draw, and a mic or line level (not 
>>>> headphone
>>>> level) output, so it should be a good match for the mic or line 
>>>> level input
>>>> of a computer sound card. What I don't want to do is carry the 60 
>>>> Hz hum
>>>> from the house to the remote RS4 via the sound card connection. 
>>>> What do you
>>>> guys think is the solution? Perhaps a couple of 1:1 audio
>>>> isolation transformers....one in the house and another near the 
>>>> RS4? Also,
>>>> anyone know of a source of inexpensive, buriable 2 wire cable?
>>>>
>>>> -Doug KB4OER
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From w1tag at charter.net  Sat Dec  1 21:21:22 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 21:21:22 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XES 137.779
In-Reply-To: <49C1AF52D20F4D24906EB7C76B300FC3@DC66PRF1>
References: <50BA9855.7030102@charter.net>
	<49C1AF52D20F4D24906EB7C76B300FC3@DC66PRF1>
Message-ID: <50BABB22.6090106@charter.net>

Warren,

A couple of the FETs blew out. Dunno why after all these years. Happened 
up on 600M, but it was connected to a properly matched line. Old age?

I replaced all 8 on the "left channel" side, and all is well.

John, W1TAG

On 12/1/2012 8:44 PM, K2ORS wrote:
> John,
>    What happened to the Hafler?
> 73 K2ORS
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" <w1tag at charter.net>
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> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 6:52 PM
> Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XES 137.779
>
>
>> Exercising the repaired Hafler amplifier tonight with DFCW90 on
>> 137.779 kHz until around 0330Z. Want to keep an eye on it.
>>
>> John, W1TAG / WD2XES
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Sat Dec  1 22:19:46 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (K2ORS)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 22:19:46 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 QRSS 6
Message-ID: <F89984E119C24DFC88AE64DED134A115@whz119d5825538>

WD2XGJ 136.745 QRSS 6

Reports welcome!

73 K2ORS

From listread at lwca.org  Sat Dec  1 22:34:37 2012
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 21:34:37 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
References: <50BA649A.9090309@sbcglobal.net><78A1CBF063A74F9793FD10A9887A2776@PatBunnShopPC><50BA760D.2090802@charter.net><DC70F9C15AF54C4094074D8E0A12EC37@PatBunnShopPC>
	<50BA96C9.7010605@charter.net>
Message-ID: <A39C1DCE258D42BDBAA9F8E36FD31955@HPNOTEBOOK>

>>>Some of the older literature really isn't all that useful - Laporte wrote
>>>mostly of large commercial/government installations, and George Brown did
>>>most of his work just below 80 meters.

True.  And at least one of the QEX articles was all about experiments at 10
meters, which were not at all scalable to the AM band where the author
suggested (at great length) that the FCC needs to re-evaluate the
engineering practice for grounds, based of his results.  I wrote to the
editor about that, and he thought I ought to expound the point in print, but
I got sidetracked and never got around to giving them permission to publish.
Some of the concepts are probably even less applicable farther down at LF.

If one gets down to the fundamentals of what you're trying to accomplish
with grounding for an electrically short vertical LF transmit antenna, the
first and foremost task is to provide a low loss return path for current
where the field is strongest and the current density in the earth is
greatest, near the antenna.

For super-short antennas, this distance is not a quarter wavelngth.
(Resonance is an irrelevant concept for buried radials at frequencies where
the surrounding medium is nearly pure resistance, anyway.)  As I mentioned
on the LW Message Board, the radius of the reactive region for our very
small antennas will be somewhat longer than the height of the antenna,
thanks to fringing effects.  That's where the bulk of R_loss will be
found...not out to 1/4 wavelength, nor even to the usual 1/(2*pi) definition
for near-field.

Now, you might be able to *slightly* improve the launching of your signal if
you also keep loss low in the transition region, which extends out farther
than the reactive zone, but this is where practicality often has to take
over.  As LowFER pioneers like Mike Mideke and others pointed out several
times based on their own practical comparisons, if you are limited by space
or materials to a choice of either a few long radials, or a greater number
of short ones ("short" meaning on the same order as your antenna height),
then the more the merrier.  Branching off at angles from the main radials
with shorter ones, part way out along the main radials, is another way of
filling gaps in the ground field that can be reasonably conservative of
limited materials.

In short, the more you can make the region under your antenna approximate a
nice conductive plate of metal to the displacement current--and less like a
huge mesh of resistors branching out everywhere--the lower the loss will be.
It's possible to do this to the point of overkill, of course, but not many
of us are that fortunate. :)

And John H., don't worry: your "ground lead" is just that...the lead that
connects to your ground, not what's in the earth.  I can feel very confident
about that view because of a lot of reading I've been doing lately (mostly
of material I'd really rather not have had to slog through) in connection
with so-called Part 15 microbroadcasters, and FCC enforcement actions
concerning them.

There has been a substantial crackdown on the "whip on a mast" AM
installations that a lot of those were using, where even some manufacturers
of certified transmitters had allegedly urged customers to put them on 50
foot grounded poles, metal billboards, water towers, etc.  Well, those
supports are just a form of extended (and excessive) ground lead, and that's
exactly what the FCC has been issuing citations for.  I've also read a
couple of notices concerning elevated counterpoise systems, which from one
viewpoint a person might well argue to be a substitute for ground; but the
FCC with equal technical legitimacy chooses to view them as part of an
asymmetrical dipole antenna, which therefore must be counted in the total
length.  So far, though, the FCC's enforcement folks have consistently
stopped measuring total length at the point where the ground lead enters the
earth.  Not once have I heard them questioning "how deep is that ground rod
buried" or "how far does that water pipe run?"  Ergo, I believe we can rest
assured that what's IN the ground IS the ground, and only the lead from our
transmitter to it need be of any concern.

Regards,
John D 

From k2ors at verizon.net  Sat Dec  1 23:12:47 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (K2ORS)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 23:12:47 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 CW
Message-ID: <EE6833C2A6B444BF8D36FE1304817060@whz119d5825538>

WE2XGR/1 506.3 CW

Reports welcome!

73 K2ORS


From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec  2 08:39:28 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 07:39:28 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WMS in NE IL
Message-ID: <50BB5A10.5060900@sbcglobal.net>

Paul, WMS did fairly well into NE IL over night. Not as good as others 
have reported but not bad. The fading in the attachment may not be due 
to propagation, but rather a picket fence of 60 Hz harmonics that drifts 
through the receive passband. Lowfer SJ is also in the attached image, 
but hard to decipher with ARGO running at QRSS30. Didn't notice TAG at 
first but as local sunrise neared it appeared a bit above 185.297 kHz 
(frequency error on my part?) and hung in longer than SJ. That might be 
because SJ shuts down at 7 am Eastern time, don't recall.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  2 08:44:05 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 05:44:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] PBO under the noise floor
Message-ID: <1354455845.22552.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49203948/PBO_11pm_12-1-2012.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49203948/PBO_Midnight_12-1-2012.jpg

" PBO " carrier line was extremely weak, but was discernable..
Of course no characters can truly be identified, mainly 
going, based on the frequency of previous reports, and this
carrier, ( possibly noise ?? ) is on 187203.5 KHz ...
Rick said he is only drawing about 50 mAmps of RF current, so
I was a bit of a personal challenge to " pull something out "
Again; I must admit that it may be Just-Noise, but then again;
Maybe - Not......

Narrow Audio Filter would not pull in anything but interference 
on this frequency.. I ended up using Extreme Clipping on the audio,
and tweaking the visual settings to see these captures..

73 all:

Andy - KU4XR - Friendsville, TN. - EM75xr

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 08:54:59 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 08:54:59 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] PBO under the noise floor
In-Reply-To: <1354455845.22552.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1354455845.22552.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7ZkBbByXPUVjmWOwaNrX6+pSbuB=HRV-CTJv4oBn1tm=g@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry but I didn't even turn a receiver on last night. Wife has had the flu
for past three days and now I have it also. Sending this in bed from my
smart phone.
On Dec 2, 2012 8:44 AM, "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr at yahoo.com> wrote:

> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49203948/PBO_11pm_12-1-2012.jpg
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49203948/PBO_Midnight_12-1-2012.jpg
>
> " PBO " carrier line was extremely weak, but was discernable..
> Of course no characters can truly be identified, mainly
> going, based on the frequency of previous reports, and this
> carrier, ( possibly noise ?? ) is on 187203.5 KHz ...
> Rick said he is only drawing about 50 mAmps of RF current, so
> I was a bit of a personal challenge to " pull something out "
> Again; I must admit that it may be Just-Noise, but then again;
> Maybe - Not......
>
> Narrow Audio Filter would not pull in anything but interference
> on this frequency.. I ended up using Extreme Clipping on the audio,
> and tweaking the visual settings to see these captures..
>
> 73 all:
>
> Andy - KU4XR - Friendsville, TN. - EM75xr
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From smokinggun at verizon.net  Sun Dec  2 09:05:45 2012
From: smokinggun at verizon.net (rick kirby)
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 14:05:45 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] PBO under the noise floor
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7ZkBbByXPUVjmWOwaNrX6+pSbuB=HRV-CTJv4oBn1tm=g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1A51F48A2534922ACA32D03948800BB@radioroom>

Feel better Doug!!

-----Original Message-----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Douglas D. Williams
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 13:55
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] PBO under the noise floor

Sorry but I didn't even turn a receiver on last night. Wife has had the flu
for past three days and now I have it also. Sending this in bed from my
smart phone.
On Dec 2, 2012 8:44 AM, "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr at yahoo.com> wrote:

> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49203948/PBO_11pm_12-1-2012.jpg
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49203948/PBO_Midnight_12-1-2012.jpg
>
> " PBO " carrier line was extremely weak, but was discernable..
> Of course no characters can truly be identified, mainly
> going, based on the frequency of previous reports, and this
> carrier, ( possibly noise ?? ) is on 187203.5 KHz ...
> Rick said he is only drawing about 50 mAmps of RF current, so
> I was a bit of a personal challenge to " pull something out "
> Again; I must admit that it may be Just-Noise, but then again;
> Maybe - Not......
>
> Narrow Audio Filter would not pull in anything but interference
> on this frequency.. I ended up using Extreme Clipping on the audio,
> and tweaking the visual settings to see these captures..
>
> 73 all:
>
> Andy - KU4XR - Friendsville, TN. - EM75xr
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From pbunn at matrixei.com  Sun Dec  2 09:16:19 2012
From: pbunn at matrixei.com (pbunn)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 14:16:19 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT @ 497.0 just starting to copy in EN90xn
In-Reply-To: <182B5F1006B44ED9A2E197C0E3BEE945@MichaelSappPC>
References: <182B5F1006B44ED9A2E197C0E3BEE945@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <83njiieg4ggbu7l4t1x7vi3v.1354457776584@email.android.com>

Mike

Thanks for the report.

Pat Bunn
WG2XCT
N4LTA

Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:


Hi All: Even MF propagation just starting here...

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/xct121a.jpg

73  Mike wa3tts
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From w1tag at charter.net  Sun Dec  2 10:15:41 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 10:15:41 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WMS in NE IL
In-Reply-To: <50BB5A10.5060900@sbcglobal.net>
References: <50BB5A10.5060900@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <50BB709D.5040408@charter.net>

Garry,

> Didn't notice TAG at
> first but as local sunrise neared it appeared a bit above 185.297 kHz
> (frequency error on my part?) and hung in longer than SJ.

I checked TAG this morning, and it shows as 185297.00 referenced to the 
10 MHz output of my GPS receiver.

John, W1TAG

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sun Dec  2 11:16:53 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 11:16:53 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR 2.11 on for a bit during daytime rite now...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W4409E7B14D29A4A5F0FEBFAC410@phx.gbl>





WE6XGR on 498 Dial-499.5 Tx for couple hours... 		 	   		  

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 11:26:11 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 11:26:11 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] remote "natural radio" receiver
In-Reply-To: <50BA85E4.9000106@internode.on.net>
References: <begx2bbhtsksrpq7ql0985cw.1354373046658@email.android.com>
	<50BA85E4.9000106@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7ZWv+JaNhpw+dnS4Cq-VHUYtDYLGyrv-=2gr18XhXy_Hg@mail.gmail.com>

That is actually a great idea. That way I could keep the battery in my
house, where it would stay warm, and charge it when not listening.

Unfortunately, I walked around the property yesterday with one of Steve
McGreevy's WR-3s, and was amazed at the level of hum, even when I was
50-75' from the house or any power lines. I also quickly remembered
something that I had forgotten (because of the very effective noise
blankers in my LF receivers), my neighbor's electric fence, which causes a
very loud "popping" or "clicking" sound about once a second. So the further
I get from the house, the less hum there is but the closer I get to the
electric fence, lol.

So anyway, it's probably not worth doing, given the level of hum present.

Too bad Edison didn't win the "war of the currents". ;-)

Oh, thanks for the links.

-Doug KB4OER




On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Bob <vk7zl at internode.on.net> wrote:

> Doug
>
> You could use CAT5 cable. One pair for audio & one pair for DC.
>
> Bob  VK7ZL
>
>
> On 1/12/2012 14:44, Pat Bunn wrote:
>
>> The problem is that the audio wire will pick up common mode hum and
>> noise. I definitely  would use a transformer.
>>
>>   Maybe use cheap shielded TV cable for the audio feed plus the
>> transformer. That's probably cheaper than two wire cable.
>>
>>
>> Pat
>>
>>
> --
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>
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>
>
>
>
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From dexter.mc at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 11:32:37 2012
From: dexter.mc at gmail.com (Dexter McIntyre W4DEX)
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 11:32:37 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] remote "natural radio" receiver
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7ZWv+JaNhpw+dnS4Cq-VHUYtDYLGyrv-=2gr18XhXy_Hg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <begx2bbhtsksrpq7ql0985cw.1354373046658@email.android.com>	<50BA85E4.9000106@internode.on.net>
	<CABP+t7ZWv+JaNhpw+dnS4Cq-VHUYtDYLGyrv-=2gr18XhXy_Hg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50BB82A5.9020007@gmail.com>

Spectrum Lab does an excellent job for removing 60 cycle hum.

Dex

Douglas D. Williams wrote:
> That is actually a great idea. That way I could keep the battery in my
> house, where it would stay warm, and charge it when not listening.
>
> Unfortunately, I walked around the property yesterday with one of Steve
> McGreevy's WR-3s, and was amazed at the level of hum, even when I was
> 50-75' from the house or any power lines. I also quickly remembered
> something that I had forgotten (because of the very effective noise
> blankers in my LF receivers), my neighbor's electric fence, which causes a
> very loud "popping" or "clicking" sound about once a second. So the further
> I get from the house, the less hum there is but the closer I get to the
> electric fence, lol.
>
> So anyway, it's probably not worth doing, given the level of hum present.
>
> Too bad Edison didn't win the "war of the currents". ;-)
>
> Oh, thanks for the links.
>
> -Doug KB4OER
>
>
>
>
>   


From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 11:35:08 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 11:35:08 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] remote "natural radio" receiver
In-Reply-To: <50BB82A5.9020007@gmail.com>
References: <begx2bbhtsksrpq7ql0985cw.1354373046658@email.android.com>
	<50BA85E4.9000106@internode.on.net>
	<CABP+t7ZWv+JaNhpw+dnS4Cq-VHUYtDYLGyrv-=2gr18XhXy_Hg@mail.gmail.com>
	<50BB82A5.9020007@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7Zqz7Y_12vaH7rQdYPru26EJd4da9iNzxkZAfO2v3jeqQ@mail.gmail.com>

Really? Now that would be something worth trying.

Spectrum Lab kinda intimidates me.

-Doug

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Dexter McIntyre W4DEX
<dexter.mc at gmail.com>wrote:

> Spectrum Lab does an excellent job for removing 60 cycle hum.
>
> Dex
>
>
> Douglas D. Williams wrote:
>
>> That is actually a great idea. That way I could keep the battery in my
>> house, where it would stay warm, and charge it when not listening.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I walked around the property yesterday with one of Steve
>> McGreevy's WR-3s, and was amazed at the level of hum, even when I was
>> 50-75' from the house or any power lines. I also quickly remembered
>> something that I had forgotten (because of the very effective noise
>> blankers in my LF receivers), my neighbor's electric fence, which causes a
>> very loud "popping" or "clicking" sound about once a second. So the
>> further
>> I get from the house, the less hum there is but the closer I get to the
>> electric fence, lol.
>>
>> So anyway, it's probably not worth doing, given the level of hum present.
>>
>> Too bad Edison didn't win the "war of the currents". ;-)
>>
>> Oh, thanks for the links.
>>
>> -Doug KB4OER
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 11:38:16 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 11:38:16 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR 2.11 on for a bit during daytime rite now...
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W4409E7B14D29A4A5F0FEBFAC410@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W4409E7B14D29A4A5F0FEBFAC410@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7bc6dVpvqzQgnbquYJetAW8rr7xmyTYH-dq1WZHww-V+Q@mail.gmail.com>

Successful decode here, Bob.

73 Doug KB4OER

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Bob Raide <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>
>
> WE6XGR on 498 Dial-499.5 Tx for couple hours...
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sun Dec  2 13:15:52 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 13:15:52 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR daytime results...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W635C095937A2094F5118A3AC410@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR [WE2XGR/6] on for an hour and a half or so. Got very steady decodes from 3 of the regulars on 500 band-thanks fellas;
 
KB4OER-816 KM
K3SIW-934 KM
W3NF-352 KM
 
Will give tonite a try-start about 2300Z-Bob 		 	   		  

From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Sun Dec  2 17:00:39 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 22:00:39 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. Transmitting every night from sunset until sunrise
 (weather permitting) at 495.9KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50B9477A.8030109@bellsouth.net>
References: <50B9477A.8030109@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50BBCF87.6040103@bellsouth.net>



*Frequency 495.9KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/





From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sun Dec  2 18:07:08 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 18:07:08 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR 2.11 on till 0200 then some SSB...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W24A92FE4711E2DA53558DEAC410@phx.gbl>





WE6XGR [WE2XGR/6] will be on usual 498 Dial-499.5 Tx till 0200Z [9:00 EST] then 510 kHz USB with Warren, Jay and hopefully others-back to WSPR after sideband QSO-Bob 		 	   		  

From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sun Dec  2 18:20:43 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 18:20:43 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR 2.11 on till 0200 then some SSB...
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W24A92FE4711E2DA53558DEAC410@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W24A92FE4711E2DA53558DEAC410@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <01356648-3DA8-4C15-B38A-2B00761CA154@hurontel.on.ca>

I'm getting solid decodes of WE6XGR here, Bob.  Now I'm going to QSY to try decoding Juan's signals from Florida.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Sun Dec  2 19:01:05 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 19:01:05 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - WSPR Sched. from Miami,
	FL el95tq. Transmitting every night from sunset until sunrise
	(weather permitting) at 495.9KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50BBCF87.6040103@bellsouth.net>
References: <50B9477A.8030109@bellsouth.net> <50BBCF87.6040103@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP7013C73E1CCC96D9D9795BE9400@phx.gbl>

Instant copy here in London Canada ( EN92ix) on first try.
Heavy background noise but signal is perfect.
Thanks for test.

Mitch

2346 -26 -1.7   0.497341  1 WE6XGR FN12 50

2348 -21 -1.0   0.497340 -1 WE6XGR FN12 50

2348 -28 -1.0   0.497460 -1 WE6XGR FN12 50

2350 -22 -1.0   0.497340  1 WE6XGR FN12 50

2352 -27 -1.0   0.497340 -1 WE6XGR FN12 50

On 2012-12-02, at 5:00 PM, JUAN A. GRANADOS wrote:

> 
> 
> *Frequency 495.9KHz*.
> 2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
> Reports are welcome.
> 73
> Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/
> 
> 


From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sun Dec  2 21:02:23 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 21:02:23 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - WSPR Sched. from Miami, FL
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP7013C73E1CCC96D9D9795BE9400@phx.gbl>
References: <50B9477A.8030109@bellsouth.net> <50BBCF87.6040103@bellsouth.net>
	<BLU0-SMTP7013C73E1CCC96D9D9795BE9400@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <ACC38BDC-60FB-4247-904A-82273820D0AF@hurontel.on.ca>

Starting at 0102 UTC I'm getting solid decodes of the WSPR transmissions of WF2XXQ.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sun Dec  2 21:40:51 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 21:40:51 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Back on after SSB roundtable...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W609F69C43CFACCC089305BAC400@phx.gbl>





WE6XGR back on WSPR 498 Dial, 499.5 Tx freq... 		 	   		  

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sun Dec  2 21:49:07 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 21:49:07 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. Transmitting every night from sunset until sunrise
 (weather permitting) at 495.9KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP7013C73E1CCC96D9D9795BE9400@phx.gbl>
References: <50B9477A.8030109@bellsouth.net> <50BBCF87.6040103@bellsouth.net>,
	<BLU0-SMTP7013C73E1CCC96D9D9795BE9400@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU162-W440C5FF146009D7D63AE7EAC400@phx.gbl>


Mitch;Condx are great tonite and QRN lowest I have heard in a while-should be good for decodeing some of the QRPers-Bob
 > From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca
> Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 19:01:05 -0500
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - WSPR Sched. from Miami,	FL el95tq. Transmitting every night from sunset until sunrise	(weather permitting) at 495.9KHz w/58mW ERP
> 
> Instant copy here in London Canada ( EN92ix) on first try.
> Heavy background noise but signal is perfect.
> Thanks for test.
> 
> Mitch
> 
> 2346 -26 -1.7   0.497341  1 WE6XGR FN12 50
> 
> 2348 -21 -1.0   0.497340 -1 WE6XGR FN12 50
> 
> 2348 -28 -1.0   0.497460 -1 WE6XGR FN12 50
> 
> 2350 -22 -1.0   0.497340  1 WE6XGR FN12 50
> 
> 2352 -27 -1.0   0.497340 -1 WE6XGR FN12 50
> 
> On 2012-12-02, at 5:00 PM, JUAN A. GRANADOS wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > *Frequency 495.9KHz*.
> > 2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
> > Reports are welcome.
> > 73
> > Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/
> > 
> > 
> 
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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Sun Dec  2 21:49:30 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 02:49:30 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - WSPR Sched. from Miami,
	FL el95tq. Transmitting every night from sunset until sunrise
	(weather permitting) at 495.9KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50BBCF87.6040103@bellsouth.net>
References: <50B9477A.8030109@bellsouth.net> <50BBCF87.6040103@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <0BA3766F21BA4879950CBF272F418AAE@PatBunnShopPC>

Juan,

Nice copy into EM94bw tonight

Pat Bunn
N4LTA
WG2XCT

-----Original Message----- 
From: JUAN A. GRANADOS
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 10:00 PM
To: 600MRG at w7ekb.com ; Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and 
MedFer bands
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - WSPR Sched. from Miami, FL el95tq. Transmitting 
every night from sunset until sunrise (weather permitting) at 495.9KHz 
w/58mW ERP



*Frequency 495.9KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/




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From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Sun Dec  2 22:44:08 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 03:44:08 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - WSPR Sched. from Miami, FL
In-Reply-To: <ACC38BDC-60FB-4247-904A-82273820D0AF@hurontel.on.ca>
References: <50B9477A.8030109@bellsouth.net> <50BBCF87.6040103@bellsouth.net>
	<BLU0-SMTP7013C73E1CCC96D9D9795BE9400@phx.gbl>
	<ACC38BDC-60FB-4247-904A-82273820D0AF@hurontel.on.ca>
Message-ID: <50BC2008.2020104@bellsouth.net>

JB, Thank you for listening.
73
Juan /K4LCD - WF2XXQ

On 12/03/2012 2:02 AM, John Bruce McCreath wrote:
> Starting at 0102 UTC I'm getting solid decodes of the WSPR transmissions of WF2XXQ.
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR
>
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> 188.830 kHz. QRSS30
> EN93dr
>
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http://peoplemusicschool.org
http://hispanicremedial.org
http://escueladehoy.org


From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Sun Dec  2 23:03:53 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 23:03:53 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Back on after SSB roundtable...
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W609F69C43CFACCC089305BAC400@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W609F69C43CFACCC089305BAC400@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP70137335B2A943ABFCC7A8E9400@phx.gbl>

Bob - steady carrier on 499.5 - appears to be tuning up - s( +20 dB here....
was trying to catch you WSPR signal... but no luck. 
Will try again next time.

Mitch
On 2012-12-02, at 9:40 PM, Bob Raide wrote:

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> 
> 
> 
> WE6XGR back on WSPR 498 Dial, 499.5 Tx freq... 		 	   		  
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From DnEMoth at aol.com  Mon Dec  3 00:08:06 2012
From: DnEMoth at aol.com (DnEMoth at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 00:08:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Lowfer] tone
Message-ID: <70a9.43dbee67.3ded8db6@aol.com>

steady carrier on 499.5 Khz for 1 minute and 50 seconds ON and OFF for 10  
seconds. received at 05:00 UTC near Syracuse, NY FN23ba Strength 589.
W2MPK

From DnEMoth at aol.com  Mon Dec  3 00:14:32 2012
From: DnEMoth at aol.com (DnEMoth at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 00:14:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Lowfer] signal
Message-ID: <71f8.55d3ea02.3ded8f38@aol.com>

Copying   WE2XGR/1 FN42HI  506.30 Khz 529 @05:16
W2MPK  FN23ba

From kc0bmf at gmail.com  Mon Dec  3 00:43:04 2012
From: kc0bmf at gmail.com (John Fickes)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 23:43:04 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] tone
In-Reply-To: <70a9.43dbee67.3ded8db6@aol.com>
References: <70a9.43dbee67.3ded8db6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAG-+cOb=L_t__5X1ckeBQXzwK5yJhoQxwH01kZwkT-p0NkA7yg@mail.gmail.com>

Don
   Have a look at wsprnet.org and click on database. It will give you what
is being reported.Hope this is of help.
              73 John  KCOBMF

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 11:08 PM, <DnEMoth at aol.com> wrote:

> steady carrier on 499.5 Khz for 1 minute and 50 seconds ON and OFF for 10
> seconds. received at 05:00 UTC near Syracuse, NY FN23ba Strength 589.
> W2MPK
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Mon Dec  3 02:50:34 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 02:50:34 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite on 498 kHz...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W35AD32FD7F8BC817C5AE4DAC400@phx.gbl>



Excellent conditions and participation as well. Band seems to be improving after a slow start producing lethargic conditions for the pasted couple months. Total of 12 stations decoding-West coast and Europe well represented and all in between-thanks to the following for the nights 549 decodes;
DG3LV
F59706
G8HUH
PA0O
GOKTN
PA3FNY
VE7BDQ
K1JT [hISSELF]
K3SIW
WA6MPG
N4LTA
WG2XIQ
HOPE WE CAN DO IT AGAIN THIS COMING EVENING-Bob WE2XGR/6 [WE6XGR on WSPR/JT modes] 		 	   		  

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec  3 07:09:40 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 07:09:40 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite on 498 kHz...
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W35AD32FD7F8BC817C5AE4DAC400@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W35AD32FD7F8BC817C5AE4DAC400@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7bbvPb=rrHXV=o9MRD0HSkWRrd4SikxvW3iuQ25o4uKWQ@mail.gmail.com>

I left mine on LF all night trying to decode on 137.5 kHz, but no luck.
Didn't seem to be a lot of activity there. Did wake up to find a screenful
of "attempted access to WSPRnet failed" messages. Switched to MF just
now and got three immediate decodes (WG2XKA, WG2XIQ, WG2XJM), but still
having troube accessing WSPRnet for some reason.

73, Doug KB4OER

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 2:50 AM, Bob Raide <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Excellent conditions and participation as well. Band seems to be improving
> after a slow start producing lethargic conditions for the pasted couple
> months. Total of 12 stations decoding-West coast and Europe well
> represented and all in between-thanks to the following for the nights 549
> decodes;
> DG3LV
> F59706
> G8HUH
> PA0O
> GOKTN
> PA3FNY
> VE7BDQ
> K1JT [hISSELF]
> K3SIW
> WA6MPG
> N4LTA
> WG2XIQ
> HOPE WE CAN DO IT AGAIN THIS COMING EVENING-Bob WE2XGR/6 [WE6XGR on
> WSPR/JT modes]
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec  3 08:17:56 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 07:17:56 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer SJ
Message-ID: <50BCA684.4000407@sbcglobal.net>

Had fairly good copy much of the night at the watering hole of lowfer 
SJ. Despite strong signals from the 288 kHz DGPS station in NL, couldn't 
pick out TAG and WMS was in only with occasional traces. NDBs in ME like 
SF on 349 kHz were at most just average strength. So conditions here 
were down compared to the previous evening.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Mon Dec  3 12:39:22 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 12:39:22 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Loop antenna with regeneration
In-Reply-To: <50BCA684.4000407@sbcglobal.net>
References: <50BCA684.4000407@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <BD23304F-F1F0-4779-9776-1922DF88971F@hurontel.on.ca>

Over the weekend I built the circuit shown on the linked site below and was quite impressed with how it
performed on the AM broadcast band with just a 14 inch diameter, 8 turn loop tuned by a 395pF varicap.
I'm sure that it could be used at LF as well with appropriate C and L values.  Scroll down the page to the
schematic titled:

DL7MWN Q-Multiplier circuit.

http://theradioboard.com/rb/viewtopic.php?p=38740

R6 is removed from the tank circuit, leaving just the C and L.   If you bother to read the entire post, the
resistor is explained as representing the R losses in the tank circuit.  I intend to try it with a ferrite rod 
loopstick to see how that compares to the 14 inch frame loop.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From k2ors at verizon.net  Mon Dec  3 12:43:19 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (K2ORS)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 12:43:19 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Fw: FCC ET Docket 12-338
Message-ID: <05839B9BEC9F43B38CF85DC2CC0388C0@warren7451549c>

The ARRL is reaching out to the LF group for comments, please see below.
Anyone have thoughts on this?

73 Warren

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ
To: K2ORS
Cc: Craigie, Kay (President) ; Price, Brennan, N4QX ; Frenaye, Tom (Dir, NE) 
; Imlay, Chris
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: FCC ET Docket 12-338


Warren, thank you for your note.

The 1 watt e.i.r.p. limit is specified in the ITU Radio Regulations so the 
FCC doesn't have much choice in that regard. However, given the practical 
difficulty of determining e.i.r.p. and the history of ET Docket 02-98, as 
well as footnote 44 in the NPRM, it appears that it will be necessary to 
address the twin possibilities of antenna height and transmitter power 
output restrictions that might result in even lower e.i.r.p. for some 
amateur installations. I would appreciate your thoughts on that aspect, 
based on the experimental group.

73,
Dave Sumner, K1ZZ


From: K2ORS [mailto:k2ors at verizon.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:57 PM
To: Edgar, William ( Dir, AT); Abernethy, Tom (Vice Dir, Atlantic Div.); 
Isely,Dick (Dir,Cl); Carlson,Kermit W9XA (Vice Dir, Central); Widin, 
Gregory, (Dir, DK); Olson, Kent (Vice Dir,Dakota); Norris, David (Dir, Delta 
Div); Clayton, Glen (SM,TN); Weaver, James K8JE (Dir, GL); Williams, Dale 
(SM MI); Birmingham, Joyce ( Dir HU); Hudzik, William; Ahrens, Cliff, K0CA 
(Dir, MW); Blocksome, Rod, K0DAS; Frenaye, Tom (Dir, NE); Raisbeck, Mike 
(Vice Dir, NE); Fenstermaker, James (Dir, NW); Hopper, Grant, Vice Dir, 
Northwestern; Vallio, Bob (Dir, PC); Tiemstra, James, (Vice Dir, Pacific); 
Bodson, Dennis (Dir, Roanoke); Boehner, James, N2ZZ (Vice Dir, Roanoke); 
Mileshosky, Brian (Dir, RM); Allen,Dwayne, WY7FD (Vice Dir, RM); Sarratt, 
Greg (Dir,SE); Millsap, Jim WB4NWS (Vice Dir, SE); Norton, Richard N6AA 
(Dir, SW); Woll, Marty (VD,SW); Woolweaver, David ( Dir, WG); Stratton, John 
(WG Vice Dir); Craigie, Kay (President); Roderick, Rick (1st Vice 
President); Frahm, Bruce ( Vice President); Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ; Niswander, 
Rick (Treasurer); Shelley, Barry, N1VXY; Kramer, Harold, WJ1B; Hobart, Mary 
K1MMH; Price, Brennan, N4QX
Subject: FCC ET Docket 12-338


To:ARRL Executive Committee
From:Warren Ziegler, K2ORS

Date:11/29/2012
Re:136kHz NPRM
Comments:
 I am writing concerning FCC  concerning a proposal for an amateur 
allocation at 136kHz. Based on the language in the docket, I am concerned 
that the FCC will promulgate overly restrictive regulations for the new 
band. The FCC proposes limiting the power to 1W EIRP, and perhaps 
restricting amateurs to specific frequencies. I would like to share some 
points based my personal experience and the experience of other amateurs 
already operating on this band under FCC issued experimental licenses:


?         I have been operating an experimental LF Station WD2XGJ since 2003 
under part 5 of the FCC rules. WD2XGJ is licensed for 136-140kHz with 10 W 
ERP (~16W EIRP). WD2XGJ has a maximum measured ERP of 4W (6.5W EIRP). 
WD2XGJ's transmitting antenna is 900' from a high tension power line with an 
active PLC on 197kHz with no interference issues to date. It has been my 
experience that even with state of the art narrowband data modes 1W EIRP 
would been insufficient for dx communications on an inter-continental basis/

?         WE2XEB operated by Robert Raide W2ZM has been operating with 10W 
ERP intermittently for the past three years without interference.

?         Other U.S. amateurs have been operating on 137kHz  over the past 
decade, including Laurence Howell KL7UX (experimental licenses WD2XDW and 
WE2XPQ), John Andrews W1TAG (WD2XES), Jay Rusgrove W1VD (WD2XNS), Dexter 
McIntyre W4DEX (WD2XKO), David Curry  WD4PLI (WD2XFJ), Mike Reid WE0H 
(WD2XGI), Ted Holdahl KC3OL (WD2XYW), and others. These stations typically 
operate at or above 1W ERP (1.6W EIRP).  There have been no interference 
problems despite a cumulative operating time of tens of thousands of hours 
using many different operating modes.

?         The FCC is apparently concerned about interference to PLC systems 
for control of components connected to the power grid. PLCs operate under 
Part 15 and as such should not be protected against interference. It is now 
more than ten years since 9/11 and if the grid is still vulnerable to low 
power amateur operations then it could easily be brought down by terrorists. 
I would think that the FCC would not want to restrict amateur operations on 
LF which would have the side effect of advertising to the public the 
vulnerability of the grid.

?         I respectfully request that the ARRL Executive Committee work with 
the amateurs who have been using the 137kHz band and use the data developed 
by them in crafting a response to Docket No. 12-338.
 


From esmithmail at gmail.com  Mon Dec  3 12:51:09 2012
From: esmithmail at gmail.com (Eric Smith)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 11:51:09 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
Message-ID: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid>

Please remind me ... it has been a while but I now finally have my
radios going after moving again:

If I have my R-75 tuned right on a specific beacon's frequency, then
that signal will appear in Argo at the frequency of my side tone,
correct?

So if sidetone is 700 Hz, then in this scenario the beacon would
appear at 700 on the waterfall display, right?

Also, it seems like the last time I got this working I had to use the
Reverse feature (CW-R) but I can't remember why.

Thanks in advance for the help.  And as always, Thank You, Alberto, for Argo!

I have been foiled the last two nights in listening at 2200m.  The
first night I just didn't have all my hardware and software ready like
I thought.  Then last night I was all set up but found a huge local
signal sitting right where I wanted to be.  After a little looking
around I found it was the monitor for that computer!  Old style with a
picture tube.

So with that monitor out of the picture and G0MRF preamp humming, I
should be good to go tonight ..

Thanks in advance for the Argo help,
Eric KD5UWL

From Outposter30 at shaw.ca  Mon Dec  3 12:58:39 2012
From: Outposter30 at shaw.ca (Jordan Arndt VE6ZT)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 10:58:39 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] Loop antenna with regeneration
References: <50BCA684.4000407@sbcglobal.net>
	<BD23304F-F1F0-4779-9776-1922DF88971F@hurontel.on.ca>
Message-ID: <E37E0088247D449881C34B03624C3664@Jordan1>

Thanks...

I've been looking for a simple Q multiplier ckt at RF rather than IF.....

73...Jordan VE6ZT


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Bruce McCreath" <weazle at hurontel.on.ca>
To: <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>; "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) 
and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 10:39 AM
Subject: [Lowfer] Loop antenna with regeneration


> Over the weekend I built the circuit shown on the linked site below and 
> was quite impressed with how it
> performed on the AM broadcast band with just a 14 inch diameter, 8 turn 
> loop tuned by a 395pF varicap.
> I'm sure that it could be used at LF as well with appropriate C and L 
> values.  Scroll down the page to the
> schematic titled:
>
> DL7MWN Q-Multiplier circuit.
>
> http://theradioboard.com/rb/viewtopic.php?p=38740
>
> R6 is removed from the tank circuit, leaving just the C and L.   If you 
> bother to read the entire post, the
> resistor is explained as representing the R losses in the tank circuit.  I 
> intend to try it with a ferrite rod
> loopstick to see how that compares to the 14 inch frame loop.
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR
>
> LowFER Beacon "EAR"
> 188.830 kHz. QRSS30
> EN93dr
>
>
>
>
>
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From stanw1le at verizon.net  Mon Dec  3 14:08:19 2012
From: stanw1le at verizon.net (Stan, W1LE)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:08:19 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
In-Reply-To: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid>
References: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <50BCF8A3.9000004@verizon.net>

On 12/3/2012 12:51 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
> Please remind me ... it has been a while but I now finally have my
> radios going after moving again:
>
> If I have my R-75 tuned right on a specific beacon's frequency, then
> that signal will appear in Argo at the frequency of my side tone,
> correct?

Correct. The Beat Frequency Oscillator (BFO)or the sidetone is the 
offset at audio frequencies.
The side tone may be different for other radios,, eg ICOM IC-703+ has a 
800 Hz side tone in CW demodulation.
Other radios have a 600 Hz sidetone.
The resulting audio may change with USB or LSB demodulation or a CW 
reverse or the regular CW demodulation.
>
> So if sidetone is 700 Hz, then in this scenario the beacon would
> appear at 700 on the waterfall display, right?

Right, plus or minus the local oscillator accuracies
>
> Also, it seems like the last time I got this working I had to use the
> Reverse feature (CW-R) but I can't remember why.
A perculiarity of the radio. Their design engineer's choice. Some radios 
allow a change with a menu.

For accurate calibrations I use a HP 3336B signal generator with an 
external GPS/DO reference at 10 MHz.
For ARGO ( a great program ! ) I calibrate the soundcard first, 
injecting a audio tone at 1000.00 Hz
or any other known accurate freq you have.
Then I connect the radio audio output to the soundcard and inject the RF 
freq I am listening to.
For example: if I am listening to an RF of 137.000 KHz and my RX has a 
sidetone of 800 Hz in CW reverse,
then I would expect to see the test signal at 800 Hz in ARGO. Then 
calibrate out the minor differences due to your radio's
LO accuracy.

As I recall the G0MRF preamp has a tight bandwidth. Is it tuned to where 
you want it ?

Stan, W1LE    Cape Cod   FN41sr


From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec  3 15:13:31 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 15:13:31 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
In-Reply-To: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid>
References: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP6800FAEF6B75C5DD3E35FEE9400@phx.gbl>

Eric:
Same receiver - same ARGO here...... If you wish to give this a try:

Probably too much detail - but here goes !

To observe the frequency of the signal...... 
Assuming it is MY R75 and PC  - yours should not be too different.
YOU SHOULD BE  ON REV CW !

Open ARGO
Assume 185300 is what you want to see on ARGO Right hand scale.
My R75 has a correction of  817

Open SETUP and click on calibration
On the right hand OFFSET - you should enter (185300 - this correction I have 817)
185300 - 817 = 184483   so     ENTER 184483      then OK

Now ARGO right hand scale should show frequencies around 185300

You may want to set up the MODE now to 20 or 30 seconds and move the scale up and down a bit until you get 185300 centered.

Then go to 30 or 60s if you wish and you will get more resolution of course.

You may remember all this ( from the glorious past ! ) so I apologize if this is
too detailed..... but is a simple technique  for me.

You can fool around with the calibration - when you find a signal whose frequency you know well.
and then remember  the OFFSET and use it again for other sections of the band ( for example 137780 (Hint Hint ))
137780-817 = 136963


73

Mitch


On 2012-12-03, at 12:51 PM, Eric Smith wrote:

> Please remind me ... it has been a while but I now finally have my
> radios going after moving again:

From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Mon Dec  3 16:39:01 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:39:01 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Loop antenna with regeneration
In-Reply-To: <E37E0088247D449881C34B03624C3664@Jordan1>
References: <50BCA684.4000407@sbcglobal.net>
	<BD23304F-F1F0-4779-9776-1922DF88971F@hurontel.on.ca>
	<E37E0088247D449881C34B03624C3664@Jordan1>
Message-ID: <0D3936F0-22E7-4755-B0E8-516D67FE8C5D@hurontel.on.ca>

I'm glad you found it useful.  Let me know how it works for you, Jordan.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Mon Dec  3 17:30:32 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 22:30:32 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. Transmitting every night from sunset until sunrise
 (weather permitting) at 495.9KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50BBCF87.6040103@bellsouth.net>
References: <50BBCF87.6040103@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50BD2808.7070907@bellsouth.net>



*Frequency 495.9KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/







From pbunn at patbunn.com  Mon Dec  3 17:53:58 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 22:53:58 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - WSPR Sched. from Miami, FL
In-Reply-To: <50BC2008.2020104@bellsouth.net>
References: <50B9477A.8030109@bellsouth.net>
	<50BBCF87.6040103@bellsouth.net><BLU0-SMTP7013C73E1CCC96D9D9795BE9400@phx.gbl><ACC38BDC-60FB-4247-904A-82273820D0AF@hurontel.on.ca>
	<50BC2008.2020104@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <F35253896E15443B824F33440A69D9F1@PatBunnShopPC>

Juan

Good signal into upstate SC . 

Pat Bunn
N4LTA

From pbunn at patbunn.com  Mon Dec  3 17:56:08 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 22:56:08 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] wspr question
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP6800FAEF6B75C5DD3E35FEE9400@phx.gbl>
References: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid>
	<BLU0-SMTP6800FAEF6B75C5DD3E35FEE9400@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <E371BE8F0A894AEBA629994ECFF584ED@PatBunnShopPC>

Is there an easy way to copy the spots from the screen shot on the WSPR 
program?

If not, are these stored or can these be stored in a file on the computer?

Pat Bunn
N4LTA 


From rjraide at hotmail.com  Mon Dec  3 17:56:39 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 17:56:39 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR 2.11 starting 2300 for the evening...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W1233A674989B720C5301E6AC400@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR on 498 dial/499.5 tx freq for the evening-all decodes appreciated... 		 	   		  

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Mon Dec  3 18:01:28 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 18:01:28 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] wspr question
References: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid><BLU0-SMTP6800FAEF6B75C5DD3E35FEE9400@phx.gbl>
	<E371BE8F0A894AEBA629994ECFF584ED@PatBunnShopPC>
Message-ID: <001e01cdd1aa$20e3fbf0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

ALL_WSPR.TXT in same folder as program.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <pbunn at patbunn.com>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 5:56 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] wspr question


> Is there an easy way to copy the spots from the screen shot on the WSPR 
> program?
> 
> If not, are these stored or can these be stored in a file on the computer?
> 
> Pat Bunn
> N4LTA 
> 
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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Mon Dec  3 18:06:54 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 23:06:54 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] wspr question
In-Reply-To: <001e01cdd1aa$20e3fbf0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid><BLU0-SMTP6800FAEF6B75C5DD3E35FEE9400@phx.gbl><E371BE8F0A894AEBA629994ECFF584ED@PatBunnShopPC>
	<001e01cdd1aa$20e3fbf0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <830B9A46D0C64F0CAFE9B0B9D4F73620@PatBunnShopPC>

Do you have to do something to make the program save - Save all is checked - 
but I have no .txt in the WSPR program file. There is a saved subdirectory 
but only a sample program in it.

Pat



From vk7zl at internode.on.net  Mon Dec  3 18:24:02 2012
From: vk7zl at internode.on.net (Bob)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 10:24:02 +1100
Subject: [Lowfer] wspr question
In-Reply-To: <830B9A46D0C64F0CAFE9B0B9D4F73620@PatBunnShopPC>
References: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid><BLU0-SMTP6800FAEF6B75C5DD3E35FEE9400@phx.gbl><E371BE8F0A894AEBA629994ECFF584ED@PatBunnShopPC>
	<001e01cdd1aa$20e3fbf0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<830B9A46D0C64F0CAFE9B0B9D4F73620@PatBunnShopPC>
Message-ID: <50BD3492.90305@internode.on.net>

The database at
http://wsprnet.org/drupal/wsprnet/spots
stores all the information. Click on 'Specify query parameters' to set 
up the search criteria.

Bob  VK7ZL


On 4/12/2012 10:06, pbunn at patbunn.com wrote:
> Do you have to do something to make the program save - Save all is 
> checked - but I have no .txt in the WSPR program file. There is a 
> saved subdirectory but only a sample program in it.
>
> Pat
>
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From vk7zl at internode.on.net  Mon Dec  3 18:32:30 2012
From: vk7zl at internode.on.net (Bob)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 10:32:30 +1100
Subject: [Lowfer] wspr question
In-Reply-To: <830B9A46D0C64F0CAFE9B0B9D4F73620@PatBunnShopPC>
References: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid><BLU0-SMTP6800FAEF6B75C5DD3E35FEE9400@phx.gbl><E371BE8F0A894AEBA629994ECFF584ED@PatBunnShopPC>
	<001e01cdd1aa$20e3fbf0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<830B9A46D0C64F0CAFE9B0B9D4F73620@PatBunnShopPC>
Message-ID: <50BD368E.8040800@internode.on.net>

I forgot to mention - In the WSPR directory is a text file called 'ALL 
WSPR' which stores the local data.

Bob  VK7ZL

On 4/12/2012 10:06, pbunn at patbunn.com wrote:
> Do you have to do something to make the program save - Save all is 
> checked - but I have no .txt in the WSPR program file. There is a 
> saved subdirectory but only a sample program in it.
>
> Pat
>
>
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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Mon Dec  3 18:55:17 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 23:55:17 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] wspr question
In-Reply-To: <50BD368E.8040800@internode.on.net>
References: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid><BLU0-SMTP6800FAEF6B75C5DD3E35FEE9400@phx.gbl><E371BE8F0A894AEBA629994ECFF584ED@PatBunnShopPC><001e01cdd1aa$20e3fbf0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL><830B9A46D0C64F0CAFE9B0B9D4F73620@PatBunnShopPC>
	<50BD368E.8040800@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <5C829515290840A193EE0749A8CF68E0@PatBunnShopPC>

Thanks Bob,

That will work. For some reason my computer is not storing the files 
locally.

Pat
N4LTA

-----Original Message----- 
From: Bob
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:32 PM
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] wspr question

I forgot to mention - In the WSPR directory is a text file called 'ALL
WSPR' which stores the local data.

Bob  VK7ZL

On 4/12/2012 10:06, pbunn at patbunn.com wrote:
> Do you have to do something to make the program save - Save all is 
> checked - but I have no .txt in the WSPR program file. There is a saved 
> subdirectory but only a sample program in it.
>
> Pat
>
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  3 19:50:03 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:50:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] wspr question
In-Reply-To: <5C829515290840A193EE0749A8CF68E0@PatBunnShopPC>
Message-ID: <1354582203.2637.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

> On 4/12/2012 10:06, pbunn at patbunn.com wrote:
> " SAVE ALL IS CHECKED "
> > Pat

Pat: Having the " Save All " checked in WSPR causes the program
to " RECORD " the Received Audio, and save it to a .wav file..
Unless you have a massively large hard-drive, this can tend to 
" Fill Up " the disk very quickly, and cause your PC to do some
crazy stuff because it runs out of space to write information to 
the disk.. Unless you have a specific need to save the audio; it
might be advantageous to check " Save None " and - SAVE the HDD..

73:

Andy - KU4XR

From pbunn at patbunn.com  Mon Dec  3 19:58:44 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 00:58:44 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] wspr question
In-Reply-To: <1354582203.2637.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1354582203.2637.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <61BD61D0EB7A4514AC07E1B18D9C88AE@PatBunnShopPC>

Thanks Andy,

Just deleted all the stored .wav files. I was looking for a simple way to do 
an email report (to copy the spots from the screen to an email).  Looks like 
you have to go to the WSPR server and copy them.

Pat

-----Original Message----- 
From: Andy - KU4XR
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 12:50 AM
To:  European & UK) and MedFer bandsDiscussion of the Lowfer (US
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] wspr question

> On 4/12/2012 10:06, pbunn at patbunn.com wrote:
> " SAVE ALL IS CHECKED "
> > Pat

Pat: Having the " Save All " checked in WSPR causes the program
to " RECORD " the Received Audio, and save it to a .wav file..
Unless you have a massively large hard-drive, this can tend to
" Fill Up " the disk very quickly, and cause your PC to do some
crazy stuff because it runs out of space to write information to
the disk.. Unless you have a specific need to save the audio; it
might be advantageous to check " Save None " and - SAVE the HDD..

73:

Andy - KU4XR
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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Mon Dec  3 20:07:30 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 01:07:30 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] wspr question
In-Reply-To: <1354582203.2637.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1354582203.2637.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <863DD2A5B3B0452EB7B33D816E2556A8@PatBunnShopPC>

One thing that I am finding out (at least for my setup) is that if a loud 
station is transmitting in the WSPR bandwidth, then the RX noise detects the 
signal and runs the Rx noise into the red and decodes of the weak stations 
stop.

Right now , when Eric turns on his JT-9 signal - my Rx noise rise to +13 
db - when he is not transmitting the Rx noise is -2db. I was consistently 
decoding  WG2XIQ until he started transmitting. I have done one decode 
since. I can barely hear WG2XIQ  on and off with QSB and Eric is very loud.

When the Rx noise goes into the red - Does WSPR stop trying to decode?

Pat
N4LTA






-----Original Message----- 




From: Andy - KU4XR
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 12:50 AM
To:  European & UK) and MedFer bandsDiscussion of the Lowfer (US
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] wspr question

> On 4/12/2012 10:06, pbunn at patbunn.com wrote:
> " SAVE ALL IS CHECKED "
> > Pat

Pat: Having the " Save All " checked in WSPR causes the program
to " RECORD " the Received Audio, and save it to a .wav file..
Unless you have a massively large hard-drive, this can tend to
" Fill Up " the disk very quickly, and cause your PC to do some
crazy stuff because it runs out of space to write information to
the disk.. Unless you have a specific need to save the audio; it
might be advantageous to check " Save None " and - SAVE the HDD..

73:

Andy - KU4XR
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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Mon Dec  3 20:12:14 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 01:12:14 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] wspr question
In-Reply-To: <1354582203.2637.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1354582203.2637.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6B5ACCACD2EF4E03BDE5E1AF7526DD50@PatBunnShopPC>

I just got a decode of ZT0/T2DHF 20

Is this a phantom spot?

Pat
N4LTA

-----Original Message----- 
From: Andy - KU4XR 
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 12:50 AM 
To:  European & UK) and MedFer bandsDiscussion of the Lowfer (US 
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] wspr question 

> On 4/12/2012 10:06, pbunn at patbunn.com wrote:
> " SAVE ALL IS CHECKED "
> > Pat

Pat: Having the " Save All " checked in WSPR causes the program
to " RECORD " the Received Audio, and save it to a .wav file..
Unless you have a massively large hard-drive, this can tend to 
" Fill Up " the disk very quickly, and cause your PC to do some
crazy stuff because it runs out of space to write information to 
the disk.. Unless you have a specific need to save the audio; it
might be advantageous to check " Save None " and - SAVE the HDD..

73:

Andy - KU4XR
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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Mon Dec  3 20:16:19 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 01:16:19 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Fw:  wspr question
Message-ID: <8B8F57EBB66A4F19B23C60A24EABC4E7@PatBunnShopPC>



-----Original Message----- 
From: pbunn at patbunn.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:15 AM
To: Bob
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] wspr question

Good old Microsoft!!

I may post this as I don't want the members to think I am crazier than I am.

Pat

-----Original Message----- 
From: Bob
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:00 AM
To: pbunn at patbunn.com
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] wspr question

I just loaded WSPR onto my Win7 machine and it doesn't seem to store the
spots as it does with XP.

Bob

On 4/12/2012 11:43, pbunn at patbunn.com wrote:
> Those data files work fine. I was originally asking if WSPR stored those 
> spots on the local computer. They don't seem to on mine. W1VD said they 
> were stored in the WSPR program directory under filename WSPR.txt. I have 
> not found that file on my Windows 7 machine.
>
> Pat
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Bob
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 12:15 AM
> To: pbunn at patbunn.com
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] wspr question
>
> Sorry Pat, I thought you were referring to the data files.
>
> WSPR doesn't store any other files apart from the settings in 'wspr.ini'
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> On 4/12/2012 10:55, pbunn at patbunn.com wrote:
>> Thanks Bob,
>>
>> That will work. For some reason my computer is not storing the files 
>> locally.
>>
>> Pat
>> N4LTA
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Bob
>> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:32 PM
>> To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands
>> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] wspr question
>>
>> I forgot to mention - In the WSPR directory is a text file called 'ALL
>> WSPR' which stores the local data.
>>
>> Bob  VK7ZL
>>
>> On 4/12/2012 10:06, pbunn at patbunn.com wrote:
>>> Do you have to do something to make the program save - Save all is 
>>> checked - but I have no .txt in the WSPR program file. There is a saved 
>>> subdirectory but only a sample program in it.
>>>
>>> Pat
>>>
>>>
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From jlangridge at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec  3 20:22:14 2012
From: jlangridge at sbcglobal.net (John Langridge)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 17:22:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] wspr question
In-Reply-To: <863DD2A5B3B0452EB7B33D816E2556A8@PatBunnShopPC>
References: <1354582203.2637.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<863DD2A5B3B0452EB7B33D816E2556A8@PatBunnShopPC>
Message-ID: <1354584134.68916.YahooMailRC@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Pat,

WSPR does not stop decoding but it is easily overloaded.  I think JT has 
indicated that none of his systems are really designed for strong signals but 
that's just the reality of it when we are packed in together.  


One of the benefits of being down here by myself is that even when stations are 
strong, they are not strong enough to impact my system.

73 and thanks for the decodes!

John KB5NJD/WG2XIQ



From: "pbunn at patbunn.com" <pbunn at patbunn.com>

To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Mon, December 3, 2012 7:07:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] wspr question

One thing that I am finding out (at least for my setup) is that if a loud 
station is transmitting in the WSPR bandwidth, then the RX noise detects the 
signal and runs the Rx noise into the red and decodes of the weak stations stop.

Right now , when Eric turns on his JT-9 signal - my Rx noise rise to +13 db - 
when he is not transmitting the Rx noise is -2db. I was consistently decoding  
WG2XIQ until he started transmitting. I have done one decode since. I can barely 
hear WG2XIQ  on and off with QSB and Eric is very loud.

When the Rx noise goes into the red - Does WSPR stop trying to decode?

Pat
N4LTA






-----Original Message----- 



From: Andy - KU4XR
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 12:50 AM
To:  European & UK) and MedFer bandsDiscussion of the Lowfer (US
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] wspr question

> On 4/12/2012 10:06, pbunn at patbunn.com wrote:
> " SAVE ALL IS CHECKED "
> > Pat

Pat: Having the " Save All " checked in WSPR causes the program
to " RECORD " the Received Audio, and save it to a .wav file..
Unless you have a massively large hard-drive, this can tend to
" Fill Up " the disk very quickly, and cause your PC to do some
crazy stuff because it runs out of space to write information to
the disk.. Unless you have a specific need to save the audio; it
might be advantageous to check " Save None " and - SAVE the HDD..

73:

Andy - KU4XR
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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Mon Dec  3 20:33:05 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 01:33:05 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] wspr question
In-Reply-To: <1354584134.68916.YahooMailRC@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1354582203.2637.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><863DD2A5B3B0452EB7B33D816E2556A8@PatBunnShopPC>
	<1354584134.68916.YahooMailRC@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8DF6AF2CC6284E2F83927C5D99ED513D@PatBunnShopPC>

John,

I can decode you just fine, but when Eric come on my noise jumps into the 
red and I rarely can decode your signal.

I have made  some lousy decodes of your signal (screwing up the 
frequency)moving the dial around trying to see if I can move Eric out of the 
bandpass.  I'm a beginner, hopefully I'll get better.

Pat

-----Original Message----- 
From: John Langridge
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:22 AM
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European,& UK) and MedFer bands
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] wspr question

Pat,

WSPR does not stop decoding but it is easily overloaded.  I think JT has
indicated that none of his systems are really designed for strong signals 
but
that's just the reality of it when we are packed in together.


One of the benefits of being down here by myself is that even when stations 
are
strong, they are not strong enough to impact my system.

73 and thanks for the decodes!

John KB5NJD/WG2XIQ



From: "pbunn at patbunn.com" <pbunn at patbunn.com>

To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands"
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Mon, December 3, 2012 7:07:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] wspr question

One thing that I am finding out (at least for my setup) is that if a loud
station is transmitting in the WSPR bandwidth, then the RX noise detects the
signal and runs the Rx noise into the red and decodes of the weak stations 
stop.

Right now , when Eric turns on his JT-9 signal - my Rx noise rise to +13 
db -
when he is not transmitting the Rx noise is -2db. I was consistently 
decoding
WG2XIQ until he started transmitting. I have done one decode since. I can 
barely
hear WG2XIQ  on and off with QSB and Eric is very loud.

When the Rx noise goes into the red - Does WSPR stop trying to decode?

Pat
N4LTA






-----Original Message----- 



From: Andy - KU4XR
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 12:50 AM
To:  European & UK) and MedFer bandsDiscussion of the Lowfer (US
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] wspr question

> On 4/12/2012 10:06, pbunn at patbunn.com wrote:
> " SAVE ALL IS CHECKED "
> > Pat

Pat: Having the " Save All " checked in WSPR causes the program
to " RECORD " the Received Audio, and save it to a .wav file..
Unless you have a massively large hard-drive, this can tend to
" Fill Up " the disk very quickly, and cause your PC to do some
crazy stuff because it runs out of space to write information to
the disk.. Unless you have a specific need to save the audio; it
might be advantageous to check " Save None " and - SAVE the HDD..

73:

Andy - KU4XR
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Mon Dec  3 20:57:30 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (K2ORS)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 20:57:30 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] signal
References: <71f8.55d3ea02.3ded8f38@aol.com>
Message-ID: <009C16361738467F9C0F0AF9A5A504EF@whz119d5825538>

Thank you Don!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <DnEMoth at aol.com>
To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:14 AM
Subject: [Lowfer] signal


> Copying   WE2XGR/1 FN42HI  506.30 Khz 529 @05:16
> W2MPK  FN23ba
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Mon Dec  3 20:59:06 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (K2ORS)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 20:59:06 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 WD2XGJ QRSS 6 136.745
Message-ID: <A46FC57134D94FD6852B446FF602A49C@whz119d5825538>

WE2XGR/1 is running cw on 506.3

WD2XGJ QRSS 6 on 136.745

Reports welcome!

73 Warren K2ORS


From wa8ejh at gmail.com  Mon Dec  3 21:08:47 2012
From: wa8ejh at gmail.com (WA8EJH)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:08:47 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] wspr question
In-Reply-To: <5C829515290840A193EE0749A8CF68E0@PatBunnShopPC>
References: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid><BLU0-SMTP6800FAEF6B75C5DD3E35FEE9400@phx.gbl><E371BE8F0A894AEBA629994ECFF584ED@PatBunnShopPC><001e01cdd1aa$20e3fbf0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL><830B9A46D0C64F0CAFE9B0B9D4F73620@PatBunnShopPC>
	<50BD368E.8040800@internode.on.net>
	<5C829515290840A193EE0749A8CF68E0@PatBunnShopPC>
Message-ID: <50BD5B2F.7070506@gmail.com>

I'm running Windows 7 and my WSPR 2.0 is saving decodes in 
ALL_WSPR.TXT.  Of course, I have WSPR installed in a non-default 
location so that the program can write to files in the installation 
directory.  Also, counter-intuitively, under SAVE in the program menu, I 
have "None" selected.  I don't know what "Save All" would do.  I get 
entries like:

    121204 0144  30  -1 -1.1   0.499501  WE6XGR FN12 50          0     1    0
    121204 0146  23  -8 -1.1   0.499501  WE6XGR FN12 50          0     1    0
    121204 0148  33   2 -0.8   0.499501  WE6XGR FN12 50          0     1    0

I don't know what all the columns are, but the ones displayed in the 
WSPR program are easy to pick out.

Larry, WA8EJH


On 12/3/2012 18:55, pbunn at patbunn.com wrote:
> Thanks Bob,
>
> That will work. For some reason my computer is not storing the files 
> locally.
>
> Pat
> N4LTA
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Bob
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:32 PM
> To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] wspr question
>
> I forgot to mention - In the WSPR directory is a text file called 'ALL
> WSPR' which stores the local data.
>
> Bob  VK7ZL
>
> On 4/12/2012 10:06, pbunn at patbunn.com wrote:
>> Do you have to do something to make the program save - Save all is 
>> checked - but I have no .txt in the WSPR program file. There is a 
>> saved subdirectory but only a sample program in it.
>>
>> Pat
>>
>>
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From esmithmail at gmail.com  Mon Dec  3 21:16:57 2012
From: esmithmail at gmail.com (Eric Smith)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 20:16:57 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
In-Reply-To: <50BCF8A3.9000004@verizon.net>
References: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid> <50BCF8A3.9000004@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <-2160847579247016675@unknownmsgid>

Thanks for the help, Stan!  Good info .. just what I needed to know.

Yes, the G0MRF preamp is quite tight.  I've used it at 2200m before
and it is tuned right where it needs to be ...

It works great, too.  I wish I had another and I'd keep that one tuned
to 185.3 ....

I'll be listening at 2200m tonight.

73,
Eric KD5UWL


On Dec 3, 2012, at 1:08 PM, "Stan, W1LE" <stanw1le at verizon.net> wrote:

> On 12/3/2012 12:51 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
>> Please remind me ... it has been a while but I now finally have my
>> radios going after moving again:
>>
>> If I have my R-75 tuned right on a specific beacon's frequency, then
>> that signal will appear in Argo at the frequency of my side tone,
>> correct?
>
> Correct. The Beat Frequency Oscillator (BFO)or the sidetone is the offset at audio frequencies.
> The side tone may be different for other radios,, eg ICOM IC-703+ has a 800 Hz side tone in CW demodulation.
> Other radios have a 600 Hz sidetone.
> The resulting audio may change with USB or LSB demodulation or a CW reverse or the regular CW demodulation.
>>
>> So if sidetone is 700 Hz, then in this scenario the beacon would
>> appear at 700 on the waterfall display, right?
>
> Right, plus or minus the local oscillator accuracies
>>
>> Also, it seems like the last time I got this working I had to use the
>> Reverse feature (CW-R) but I can't remember why.
> A perculiarity of the radio. Their design engineer's choice. Some radios allow a change with a menu.
>
> For accurate calibrations I use a HP 3336B signal generator with an external GPS/DO reference at 10 MHz.
> For ARGO ( a great program ! ) I calibrate the soundcard first, injecting a audio tone at 1000.00 Hz
> or any other known accurate freq you have.
> Then I connect the radio audio output to the soundcard and inject the RF freq I am listening to.
> For example: if I am listening to an RF of 137.000 KHz and my RX has a sidetone of 800 Hz in CW reverse,
> then I would expect to see the test signal at 800 Hz in ARGO. Then calibrate out the minor differences due to your radio's
> LO accuracy.
>
> As I recall the G0MRF preamp has a tight bandwidth. Is it tuned to where you want it ?
>
> Stan, W1LE    Cape Cod   FN41sr
>
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Mon Dec  3 22:01:35 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 22:01:35 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] wspr question
In-Reply-To: <61BD61D0EB7A4514AC07E1B18D9C88AE@PatBunnShopPC>
References: <1354582203.2637.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<61BD61D0EB7A4514AC07E1B18D9C88AE@PatBunnShopPC>
Message-ID: <73B583B5-3245-4D1B-80BD-E79F4EF80434@hurontel.on.ca>

> I was looking for a simple way to do an email report (to copy the spots from the screen to an email). 

Pat,

That's easy...just highlight the text that you want from the WSPR screen, then hit CTRL-C to copy it.
Then all you need to do is PASTE it to the body of your e-mail.  Works for me every time!

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From wa3tts at verizon.net  Mon Dec  3 22:06:54 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 22:06:54 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] A few signal reports....
Message-ID: <B35B58FDFB6C4EDEA90AE6AD71F19B87@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All: A quick check of the longwave bands, I'm hearing a MSK signal at 18.3 kHz, likely HWU at about 0220Z,  189 kHz Longwave AM broadcast audible voice and music (Euro 1 ?),

Copying WE6XGR on 499.5 WSPR with my Sony ICF2001 in my basement EN90xn location with 12 to 18 inch whip extended. Audible with the whip retracted and the ferrite loop antenna once the signal was found. Typical 10 sec delay on the top of the minute cycle.....

ARGO running on 185.3 now with the HD-1420  and FT-817 see what pops in this evening....

After tinkering with a DIY xtal heater for a few hours over the weekend I come across a 12 volt Ovenaire HC-43 xtal heater on a PLL freq syn board at the bottom of one of my junkboxes.....

Thanks Murphy !!!

73  Mike wa3tts

From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec  3 22:10:12 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 22:10:12 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] wspr question
In-Reply-To: <73B583B5-3245-4D1B-80BD-E79F4EF80434@hurontel.on.ca>
References: <1354582203.2637.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<61BD61D0EB7A4514AC07E1B18D9C88AE@PatBunnShopPC>
	<73B583B5-3245-4D1B-80BD-E79F4EF80434@hurontel.on.ca>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP65E281BA21620E15960D49E9470@phx.gbl>

That's my technique also - Instant - fast - don't have to search directories - and
then just paste it into the email you are sending.
And I can transfer it between the iMAC and PC on the same computer !

73

Mitch
On 2012-12-03, at 10:01 PM, John Bruce McCreath wrote:

>> I was looking for a simple way to do an email report (to copy the spots from the screen to an email). 
> 
> Pat,
> 
> That's easy...just highlight the text that you want from the WSPR screen, then hit CTRL-C to copy it.
> Then all you need to do is PASTE it to the body of your e-mail.  Works for me every time!
> 
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR
> 
> LowFER Beacon "EAR"
> 188.830 kHz. QRSS30
> EN93dr
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Mon Dec  3 22:17:06 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (K2ORS)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 22:17:06 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] A few signal reports....
References: <B35B58FDFB6C4EDEA90AE6AD71F19B87@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <60EFF1918C8E477680C66E99245C99F2@whz119d5825538>

Hi Mike,
    189 kHz is Iceland Broadcasting
http://dxinfocentre.com/lw.htm

73 Warren


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Sapp" <wa3tts at verizon.net>
To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 10:06 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] A few signal reports....


> Hi All: A quick check of the longwave bands, I'm hearing a MSK signal at 
> 18.3 kHz, likely HWU at about 0220Z,  189 kHz Longwave AM broadcast 
> audible voice and music (Euro 1 ?),
>
> Copying WE6XGR on 499.5 WSPR with my Sony ICF2001 in my basement EN90xn 
> location with 12 to 18 inch whip extended. Audible with the whip retracted 
> and the ferrite loop antenna once the signal was found. Typical 10 sec 
> delay on the top of the minute cycle.....
>
> ARGO running on 185.3 now with the HD-1420  and FT-817 see what pops in 
> this evening....
>
> After tinkering with a DIY xtal heater for a few hours over the weekend I 
> come across a 12 volt Ovenaire HC-43 xtal heater on a PLL freq syn board 
> at the bottom of one of my junkboxes.....
>
> Thanks Murphy !!!
>
> 73  Mike wa3tts
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From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  3 22:42:43 2012
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 03:42:43 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 WD2XGJ QRSS 6 136.745
In-Reply-To: <A46FC57134D94FD6852B446FF602A49C@whz119d5825538>
References: <A46FC57134D94FD6852B446FF602A49C@whz119d5825538>
Message-ID: <CAE89MiSK+=4jiezyVTPrP1ojYN7poWyvk_w9UuSdy9qhDbi+Cw@mail.gmail.com>

Ok on xgr hr but not much so far on xgj
Lloyd W3NF

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:59 AM, K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:

> WE2XGR/1 is running cw on 506.3
>
> WD2XGJ QRSS 6 on 136.745
>
> Reports welcome!
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Mon Dec  3 23:03:27 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 23:03:27 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Iceland Broadcasting on 189
Message-ID: <289E5A9064C54BB3A14BE0822F84880F@MichaelSappPC>

Thanks info on the 189 LW BCB Waren.  Always neat to hear one of those LW BC signals pop in.....

73, Mike

From pbunn at patbunn.com  Mon Dec  3 23:26:29 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 04:26:29 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] wspr question
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP65E281BA21620E15960D49E9470@phx.gbl>
References: <1354582203.2637.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><61BD61D0EB7A4514AC07E1B18D9C88AE@PatBunnShopPC><73B583B5-3245-4D1B-80BD-E79F4EF80434@hurontel.on.ca>
	<BLU0-SMTP65E281BA21620E15960D49E9470@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <909230C6D49849889B5C10FF7C9CE434@PatBunnShopPC>

That is exactly the tip that I was looking for. I tried doing the usual 
right click and it didn't work. Thanks a bunch for the tip.

Here are the last couple of hours spots that I pasted using your tip.

Pat

0236  -8 -1.6   0.475726 -1 WG2XKA FN33 23
0240 -21 -2.3   0.475697  1 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0248 -18 -2.3   0.475697  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0248 -23 -1.6   0.475726 -1 WG2XKA FN33 23
0256 -14 -1.5   0.475726 -1 WG2XKA FN33 23
0304 -14 -1.7   0.475726 -1 WG2XKA FN33 23
0308 -23 -2.3   0.475697  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0312 -12 -2.3   0.475696  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0312 -21 -1.5   0.475726  0 WG2XKA FN33 23
0316 -11 -2.3   0.475696  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0320 -12 -2.1   0.475696  1 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0320 -15 -1.5   0.475726 -1 WG2XKA FN33 23
0324 -14 -2.2   0.475696  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0330 -11 -1.7   0.475726 -1 WG2XKA FN33 23
0334 -18 -2.2   0.475696  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0338 -19 -2.2   0.475697  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0340 -11 -1.8   0.475726  0 WG2XKA FN33 23
0342 -17 -2.3   0.475696  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0346 -18 -2.1   0.475696  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0348 -16 -1.7   0.475726 -1 WG2XKA FN33 23
0352 -14 -2.3   0.475697  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0356 -12 -1.6   0.475726 -1 WG2XKA FN33 23
0402 -14 -2.2   0.475696  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0408 -20 -1.6   0.475726  0 WG2XKA FN33 23
0410 -14 -2.3   0.475696  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0414 -10 -2.2   0.475696  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0418 -15 -2.3   0.475696  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0420 -15 -1.8   0.475726 -1 WG2XKA FN33 23


-----Original Message----- 
From: Mitch Powell
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 3:10 AM
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] wspr question

That's my technique also - Instant - fast - don't have to search 
directories - and
then just paste it into the email you are sending.
And I can transfer it between the iMAC and PC on the same computer !

73

Mitch
On 2012-12-03, at 10:01 PM, John Bruce McCreath wrote:

>> I was looking for a simple way to do an email report (to copy the spots 
>> from the screen to an email).
>
> Pat,
>
> That's easy...just highlight the text that you want from the WSPR screen, 
> then hit CTRL-C to copy it.
> Then all you need to do is PASTE it to the body of your e-mail.  Works for 
> me every time!
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR
>
> LowFER Beacon "EAR"
> 188.830 kHz. QRSS30
> EN93dr
>
>
>
>
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Tue Dec  4 00:21:07 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 00:21:07 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR-on 500 kHz tonite...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W4720254DE4DDC021C42CF0AC470@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR [WE2XGR/6] decoded 9 fellas and a new DX decoder,6280 KM distance, OH1LSQ!
Thanks to all 9 decoders for great work;
OH1LSQ
DG3LV
G0KTN
G8HUH
K1JT
W3NF
WA8EJH
WA6MPG
KU7Z
Will be trying 137 with WSPR Friday & Saturday nites-500 agn tomorrow if time here permits-GM and 73 all-Bob 		 	   		  

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  4 07:40:07 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 04:40:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Finally got TAG-ged in Friendsville
Message-ID: <1354624807.50868.YahooMailClassic@web125304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Patience, and Persistence are the key players in this game.
It took quite a few nights of traces, and random characters,
and and earlier capture showed " AG T ", but this one got it.

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Tue Dec  4 07:43:18 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (K2ORS)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 07:43:18 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 WD2XGJ QRSS 6 136.745
References: <A46FC57134D94FD6852B446FF602A49C@whz119d5825538>
	<CAE89MiSK+=4jiezyVTPrP1ojYN7poWyvk_w9UuSdy9qhDbi+Cw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2F404E75A3C649618BB73D0830E0BD46@whz119d5825538>

Lloyd,
   Thanks for the report on WE2XGR/1 !
I'll check on XGJ maybe the TX blew a fuse...
73 Warren

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "lloyd chastant" <lloydc6 at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp, UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 WD2XGJ QRSS 6 136.745


> Ok on xgr hr but not much so far on xgj
> Lloyd W3NF
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:59 AM, K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> WE2XGR/1 is running cw on 506.3
>>
>> WD2XGJ QRSS 6 on 136.745
>>
>> Reports welcome!
>>
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Tue Dec  4 07:46:13 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 07:46:13 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Finally got TAG-ged in Friendsville
In-Reply-To: <1354624807.50868.YahooMailClassic@web125304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1354624807.50868.YahooMailClassic@web125304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7Zv+pGBJ3vbie2sd+fhjJozbMr5W3KyJQHQRbttC6uVNg@mail.gmail.com>

Good work Andy. Always nice to get a new one.




On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Patience, and Persistence are the key players in this game.
> It took quite a few nights of traces, and random characters,
> and and earlier capture showed " AG T ", but this one got it.
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  4 07:47:48 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 04:47:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] SJ - WMS
Message-ID: <1354625268.12980.YahooMailClassic@web125301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

SJ never a problem, still only traces thru the night
and random characters for WMS.

Andy - KU4XR
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From w1tag at charter.net  Tue Dec  4 07:49:00 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 07:49:00 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Finally got TAG-ged in Friendsville
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References: <1354624807.50868.YahooMailClassic@web125304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50BDF13C.1040701@charter.net>

Andy,

Yay! Thanks for the report.

John, W1TAG

On 12/4/2012 7:40 AM, Andy - KU4XR wrote:
> Patience, and Persistence are the key players in this game.
> It took quite a few nights of traces, and random characters,
> and and earlier capture showed " AG T ", but this one got it.
>
> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr
>
>
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Tue Dec  4 07:57:20 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 07:57:20 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
In-Reply-To: <-2160847579247016675@unknownmsgid>
References: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid> <50BCF8A3.9000004@verizon.net>
	<-2160847579247016675@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7ay77w3RHeaU3B+u-RJicDKFj-zHywJJbGBER3oAiubDQ@mail.gmail.com>

Eric,

What Stan and Mitch said. ;-)

Yep, the R75 needs to be in CW reverse.

Like most modern receivers, you can change the R-75's CW side tone over a
wide range (I forget how wide). I keep mine on 700Hz, because that's what I
like.

One "quick and dirty" way to calibrate Argo with your receiver (and the
method I use), is to tune to WWVB on 60 kHz, and adjust Argo's calibration
as you watch the signal scroll across at different Argo speeds. WWVB is so
strong I have to use the R-75's attenuator and turn the audio gain way down
so Argo isn't driven into clipping. Make sure you let the R-75 warm up
before calibrating it. Mine takes almost an hour to achieve best stability,
and this is indoors with the OCXO option installed. This is not a concern
for those who have theirs GPS locked.

73, Doug KB4OER




On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Eric Smith <esmithmail at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the help, Stan!  Good info .. just what I needed to know.
>
> Yes, the G0MRF preamp is quite tight.  I've used it at 2200m before
> and it is tuned right where it needs to be ...
>
> It works great, too.  I wish I had another and I'd keep that one tuned
> to 185.3 ....
>
> I'll be listening at 2200m tonight.
>
> 73,
> Eric KD5UWL
>
>
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 1:08 PM, "Stan, W1LE" <stanw1le at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > On 12/3/2012 12:51 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
> >> Please remind me ... it has been a while but I now finally have my
> >> radios going after moving again:
> >>
> >> If I have my R-75 tuned right on a specific beacon's frequency, then
> >> that signal will appear in Argo at the frequency of my side tone,
> >> correct?
> >
> > Correct. The Beat Frequency Oscillator (BFO)or the sidetone is the
> offset at audio frequencies.
> > The side tone may be different for other radios,, eg ICOM IC-703+ has a
> 800 Hz side tone in CW demodulation.
> > Other radios have a 600 Hz sidetone.
> > The resulting audio may change with USB or LSB demodulation or a CW
> reverse or the regular CW demodulation.
> >>
> >> So if sidetone is 700 Hz, then in this scenario the beacon would
> >> appear at 700 on the waterfall display, right?
> >
> > Right, plus or minus the local oscillator accuracies
> >>
> >> Also, it seems like the last time I got this working I had to use the
> >> Reverse feature (CW-R) but I can't remember why.
> > A perculiarity of the radio. Their design engineer's choice. Some radios
> allow a change with a menu.
> >
> > For accurate calibrations I use a HP 3336B signal generator with an
> external GPS/DO reference at 10 MHz.
> > For ARGO ( a great program ! ) I calibrate the soundcard first,
> injecting a audio tone at 1000.00 Hz
> > or any other known accurate freq you have.
> > Then I connect the radio audio output to the soundcard and inject the RF
> freq I am listening to.
> > For example: if I am listening to an RF of 137.000 KHz and my RX has a
> sidetone of 800 Hz in CW reverse,
> > then I would expect to see the test signal at 800 Hz in ARGO. Then
> calibrate out the minor differences due to your radio's
> > LO accuracy.
> >
> > As I recall the G0MRF preamp has a tight bandwidth. Is it tuned to where
> you want it ?
> >
> > Stan, W1LE    Cape Cod   FN41sr
> >
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Tue Dec  4 08:24:40 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (K2ORS)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 08:24:40 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 WD2XGJ QRSS 6 136.745
References: <A46FC57134D94FD6852B446FF602A49C@whz119d5825538>
	<CAE89MiSK+=4jiezyVTPrP1ojYN7poWyvk_w9UuSdy9qhDbi+Cw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8B968D0FA6C64316BFE98221400C1862@whz119d5825538>

Lloyd,
    The WD2XGJ transmitter did in fact blow a fuse, I will have to determine 
the reason the tx is now blowing fuses.
Thanks for looking!
73 Warren



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "lloyd chastant" <lloydc6 at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp, UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 WD2XGJ QRSS 6 136.745


> Ok on xgr hr but not much so far on xgj
> Lloyd W3NF
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:59 AM, K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> WE2XGR/1 is running cw on 506.3
>>
>> WD2XGJ QRSS 6 on 136.745
>>
>> Reports welcome!
>>
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Tue Dec  4 08:34:09 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (K2ORS)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 08:34:09 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ - the value of a negative report
Message-ID: <C388E04E032049C98A899E73BC62A992@whz119d5825538>

I received a report from Lloyd W3NF  that he was not copying WD2XGJ, which 
is odd since that is usually an easy distance and normally I get a very 
strong report.  That prompted me to check the transmitter, which as it turns 
out had a blown fuse.  Had I not received the negative report from Lloyd it 
might have been some time before I checked the TX. All reports are valid and 
helpful, even negative ones!

73 Warren K2ORS


From esmithmail at gmail.com  Tue Dec  4 09:37:22 2012
From: esmithmail at gmail.com (Eric Smith)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 08:37:22 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m overnight
Message-ID: <-2907014077545158791@unknownmsgid>

Thanks to everyone for the reminders on how to get going again.

What I did for this first attempt was tune receiver to 137000 Hz USB
and started Argo with no offset entered.

Caught MP first off:  http://kd5uwl.freeshell.org/mp/0008.jpg

Mitch, what's your exact frequency?  Looks like I was only one or two Hz off!

Equipment:

 - stock R-75 (without the CR-282 high stability option)
 - G0MRF preamp
 - homemade G5RV up an embarrassing 20 feet (yes, about 10' of the
ladder line section is draped across a completely dead and dried out
bush)
 - 10+ year old PC
 - Fedora Linux (FC-18 beta)
 - wine (windows emulator) running Argo

Will work on sensitivity and calibration and try again tonight.

73
Eric KD5UWL

From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  4 10:08:43 2012
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 15:08:43 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] SJ - WMS
In-Reply-To: <1354625268.12980.YahooMailClassic@web125301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1354625268.12980.YahooMailClassic@web125301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAE89MiSfOMq=6xHxkvXreenTugyn8RsCBvid905MOqn82eYNRg@mail.gmail.com>

Yes nice sig routine
Lloyd W3NF

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr at yahoo.com> wrote:

> SJ never a problem, still only traces thru the night
> and random characters for WMS.
>
> Andy - KU4XR
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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Tue Dec  4 13:27:57 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 13:27:57 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m overnight
In-Reply-To: <-2907014077545158791@unknownmsgid>
References: <-2907014077545158791@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP50A1ABBE8156450DE5EA0FE9470@phx.gbl>

Last report I have is 137780.6 - I'll do the calibration method that Doug suggested - and 
check things out the rainy afternoon.
  C U L

Mitch


On 2012-12-04, at 9:37 AM, Eric Smith wrote:

> Thanks to everyone for the reminders on how to get going again.
> 
> What I did for this first attempt was tune receiver to 137000 Hz USB
> and started Argo with no offset entered.
> 
> Caught MP first off:  http://kd5uwl.freeshell.org/mp/0008.jpg


From n6ry at arrl.net  Tue Dec  4 13:40:06 2012
From: n6ry at arrl.net (Terry Conboy)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 10:40:06 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] remote "natural radio" receiver
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7b-YAY5QrNVxSxNpm=XE064oiZkeLBUTFuMcS5=gAZLTw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABP+t7b-YAY5QrNVxSxNpm=XE064oiZkeLBUTFuMcS5=gAZLTw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50BE4386.50906@arrl.net>

Check out Irrigation Control Wire. Usually it has #18 conductors and is 
designed for direct burial. - 73, Terry N6RY

On 2012-12-01 4:45 AM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
> Also, anyone know of a source of inexpensive, buriable 2 wire cable?
>
> -Doug KB4OER
>


From listread at lwca.org  Tue Dec  4 13:46:17 2012
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 12:46:17 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m overnight
References: <-2907014077545158791@unknownmsgid>
	<BLU0-SMTP50A1ABBE8156450DE5EA0FE9470@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <E0EEE4AEEFDF4147914F37CA012141C2@HPNOTEBOOK>

Good job, Eric, and it looks as if your calibration must be pretty close.  I 
also saw MP about 0.1 Hz high, late afternoon yesterday.

John D 

From esmithmail at gmail.com  Tue Dec  4 14:20:53 2012
From: esmithmail at gmail.com (Eric Smith)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 13:20:53 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m overnight
In-Reply-To: <E0EEE4AEEFDF4147914F37CA012141C2@HPNOTEBOOK>
References: <-2907014077545158791@unknownmsgid>
	<BLU0-SMTP50A1ABBE8156450DE5EA0FE9470@phx.gbl>
	<E0EEE4AEEFDF4147914F37CA012141C2@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <-492836999810347208@unknownmsgid>

Gee that's almost scary close .. I plotted him at 137780.76, and he
reports 137780.6.  What are the chances of that with a stock R-75, no
calibration in Argo, and a 10+ year old built-in sound card?

That's one of the things I always worried about ... finding a remote
signal when the window is only a few Hz wide at QRSS 30 or slower.

Sure got lucky .... maybe I should be playing the horses.

Will be listening again tonight ... actually still running right now.
I'll see if I can get automated FTP uploads to a web page running
tonight (grabulator).

73,
Eric KD5UWL






On Dec 4, 2012, at 12:47 PM, JD <listread at lwca.org> wrote:

> Good job, Eric, and it looks as if your calibration must be pretty close.  I
> also saw MP about 0.1 Hz high, late afternoon yesterday.
>
> John D
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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Tue Dec  4 14:23:36 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 14:23:36 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m overnight
In-Reply-To: <E0EEE4AEEFDF4147914F37CA012141C2@HPNOTEBOOK>
References: <-2907014077545158791@unknownmsgid>
	<BLU0-SMTP50A1ABBE8156450DE5EA0FE9470@phx.gbl>
	<E0EEE4AEEFDF4147914F37CA012141C2@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP43C7A326D45EFBA8F65B3AE9470@phx.gbl>

Thanks John; Just tried the WWVB calibration that Doug mentioned - and found 800.16 as the figure.
With that entered - ARGO sees me on 137780.72    - I have just moved the DDS down to
137780.63 now - so this may show up on your observations.   If that
is the case - then I guess I am getting close !
It's interesting that when I checked 8 AM broadcast stations - they were from 799 to 803 as variables,
so not much help.
Thanks to all for the input.
Mitch
On 2012-12-04, at 1:46 PM, JD wrote:

> Good job, Eric, and it looks as if your calibration must be pretty close.  I 
> also saw MP about 0.1 Hz high, late afternoon yesterday.
> 
> John D 
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From esmithmail at gmail.com  Tue Dec  4 14:32:48 2012
From: esmithmail at gmail.com (Eric Smith)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 13:32:48 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m overnight
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP43C7A326D45EFBA8F65B3AE9470@phx.gbl>
References: <-2907014077545158791@unknownmsgid>
	<BLU0-SMTP50A1ABBE8156450DE5EA0FE9470@phx.gbl>
	<E0EEE4AEEFDF4147914F37CA012141C2@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<BLU0-SMTP43C7A326D45EFBA8F65B3AE9470@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <-6739384015626176873@unknownmsgid>

Mitch .. given these calibrations, what frequency do you think you
were on last night?  If you say 137780.72 I will shudder .. I had you
on 137780.76 !!



On Dec 4, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Thanks John; Just tried the WWVB calibration that Doug mentioned - and found 800.16 as the figure.
> With that entered - ARGO sees me on 137780.72    - I have just moved the DDS down to
> 137780.63 now - so this may show up on your observations.   If that
> is the case - then I guess I am getting close !
> It's interesting that when I checked 8 AM broadcast stations - they were from 799 to 803 as variables,
> so not much help.
> Thanks to all for the input.
> Mitch
> On 2012-12-04, at 1:46 PM, JD wrote:
>
>> Good job, Eric, and it looks as if your calibration must be pretty close.  I
>> also saw MP about 0.1 Hz high, late afternoon yesterday.
>>
>> John D
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From ve7sl at shaw.ca  Tue Dec  4 14:40:09 2012
From: ve7sl at shaw.ca (STEVE MCDONALD)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 12:40:09 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m overnight
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP43C7A326D45EFBA8F65B3AE9470@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1949216776.281008.1354650009256.JavaMail.root@cds043>



>It's interesting that when I checked 8 AM broadcast stations - they were from 799 to 803 as variables,

Something really eye-opening to observe is watching one of the BCB 'graveyard' frequencies,
like 1240 (stations limited to 1000W only)with Argo at QRSS60, at night. You can usually hear 
just a jumble of modulation with little or no copy of any of the signals. 
On a slow Argo, you can see dozens upon dozens of carriers, 
all fading and not one of them actually on 1240....really shows how deep Argo can dig as well.

Steve / VE7SL

From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Tue Dec  4 14:43:59 2012
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 11:43:59 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m overnight
References: <-2907014077545158791@unknownmsgid><BLU0-SMTP50A1ABBE8156450DE5EA0FE9470@phx.gbl><E0EEE4AEEFDF4147914F37CA012141C2@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<-492836999810347208@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <022401cdd25a$24059e50$0ba0f604@mainframe>

: Sure got lucky .... maybe I should be playing the horses.

You get that good with the horses and I'll back you and cut you in!

Kurt

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Tue Dec  4 15:22:29 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 15:22:29 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m overnight
References: <-2907014077545158791@unknownmsgid><BLU0-SMTP50A1ABBE8156450DE5EA0FE9470@phx.gbl><E0EEE4AEEFDF4147914F37CA012141C2@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<BLU0-SMTP43C7A326D45EFBA8F65B3AE9470@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <004401cdd25d$15b446a0$6d01a8c0@DELL4>

Mitch

Caught the frequency change earlier ... http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html . Will get an accurate 
reading on your new frequency when I get home.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitch Powell" <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] 2200m overnight


> Thanks John; Just tried the WWVB calibration that Doug mentioned - and found 800.16 as the figure.
> With that entered - ARGO sees me on 137780.72    - I have just moved the DDS down to
> 137780.63 now - so this may show up on your observations.   If that
> is the case - then I guess I am getting close !
> It's interesting that when I checked 8 AM broadcast stations - they were from 799 to 803 as 
> variables,
> so not much help.
> Thanks to all for the input.
> Mitch
> On 2012-12-04, at 1:46 PM, JD wrote:
>
>> Good job, Eric, and it looks as if your calibration must be pretty close.  I
>> also saw MP about 0.1 Hz high, late afternoon yesterday.
>>
>> John D
>> ______________________________________________________________
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Tue Dec  4 16:51:56 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 15:51:56 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 17.8 kHz TACAMO
Message-ID: <50BE707C.800@sbcglobal.net>

Seeing very wideband signal at 2151Z on 17.8 kHz.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Tue Dec  4 16:57:54 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 16:57:54 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m overnight
In-Reply-To: <-6739384015626176873@unknownmsgid>
References: <-2907014077545158791@unknownmsgid>
	<BLU0-SMTP50A1ABBE8156450DE5EA0FE9470@phx.gbl>
	<E0EEE4AEEFDF4147914F37CA012141C2@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<BLU0-SMTP43C7A326D45EFBA8F65B3AE9470@phx.gbl>
	<-6739384015626176873@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP5333A764E6F81F2F1A91FBE9470@phx.gbl>

I originally 76 when I finally got it calibrated...... now showing 64 after tiny adjustment of the DDS.
Just going to let that sit for the evening.

I think you should be able to hear me now.... sunset here now. 
Mitch
On 2012-12-04, at 2:32 PM, Eric Smith wrote:

> Mitch .. given these calibrations, what frequency do you think you
> were on last night?  If you say 137780.72 I will shudder .. I had you
> on 137780.76 !!
> 
> 


From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Tue Dec  4 17:03:22 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 17:03:22 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m overnight
In-Reply-To: <1949216776.281008.1354650009256.JavaMail.root@cds043>
References: <1949216776.281008.1354650009256.JavaMail.root@cds043>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP221B71296E08C945295014E9470@phx.gbl>

That's interesting Steve - will give it a try tonight - 
I tried some of the older "clear channel" xmtrs here - like WJR Detroit @ 760 and 740 Toronto ( ex CBC ).
Certainly no standard among them..... but I guess a a hertz or so each way is no big deal when you're
running 50 kW.   WJR was 798.89  and 740 Toronto was 801.27  ( both at QRSS30.

Will be adding another vertical element to the loop ( about 90 feet straight up) and hope that
improves the radiation for the Winter.

Are you permanently on the island now ?   or still commuting ?

Later

Mitch  
On 2012-12-04, at 2:40 PM, STEVE MCDONALD wrote:

> 
> 
>> It's interesting that when I checked 8 AM broadcast stations - they were from 799 to 803 as variables,
> 
> Something really eye-opening to observe is watching one of the BCB 'graveyard' frequencies,
> like 1240 (stations limited to 1000W only)with Argo at QRSS60, at night. You can usually hear 
> just a jumble of modulation with little or no copy of any of the signals. 
> On a slow Argo, you can see dozens upon dozens of carriers, 
> all fading and not one of them actually on 1240....really shows how deep Argo can dig as well.
> 
> Steve / VE7SL
> ______________________________________________________________


From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Tue Dec  4 17:04:37 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 17:04:37 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m overnight
In-Reply-To: <004401cdd25d$15b446a0$6d01a8c0@DELL4>
References: <-2907014077545158791@unknownmsgid><BLU0-SMTP50A1ABBE8156450DE5EA0FE9470@phx.gbl><E0EEE4AEEFDF4147914F37CA012141C2@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<BLU0-SMTP43C7A326D45EFBA8F65B3AE9470@phx.gbl>
	<004401cdd25d$15b446a0$6d01a8c0@DELL4>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP7538EA0DB0CD8DAB232765E9470@phx.gbl>

See how great those grabbers are - you never know when someone is checking !
That's great - let me know .
Mitch
On 2012-12-04, at 3:22 PM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> Mitch
> 
> Caught the frequency change earlier ... http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html . Will get an accurate reading on your new frequency when I get home.
> 
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> 
> 
> 


From vk7zl at internode.on.net  Tue Dec  4 17:08:03 2012
From: vk7zl at internode.on.net (Bob)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 09:08:03 +1100
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7ay77w3RHeaU3B+u-RJicDKFj-zHywJJbGBER3oAiubDQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid> <50BCF8A3.9000004@verizon.net>
	<-2160847579247016675@unknownmsgid>
	<CABP+t7ay77w3RHeaU3B+u-RJicDKFj-zHywJJbGBER3oAiubDQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50BE7443.2010408@internode.on.net>


On 4/12/2012 23:57, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
> Yep, the R75 needs to be in CW reverse.
Why?

Bob  VK7ZL

-- 
LF/HF QRSS Grabber: http://tinyurl.com/26callh

NDB & Navtex Logging: http://tinyurl.com/255zfm2






From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Tue Dec  4 17:18:41 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 17:18:41 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m overnight
In-Reply-To: <004401cdd25d$15b446a0$6d01a8c0@DELL4>
References: <-2907014077545158791@unknownmsgid><BLU0-SMTP50A1ABBE8156450DE5EA0FE9470@phx.gbl><E0EEE4AEEFDF4147914F37CA012141C2@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<BLU0-SMTP43C7A326D45EFBA8F65B3AE9470@phx.gbl>
	<004401cdd25d$15b446a0$6d01a8c0@DELL4>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP2045E9BD8898A3EE5A6195E9470@phx.gbl>

Here is of Nov 25 W1VD grabber - showing me approx. .65 or .7
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On 2012-12-04, at 3:22 PM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> Mitch
> 
> Caught the frequency change earlier ... http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html . Will get an accurate reading on your new frequency when I get home.
> 
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> 
> 


From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Tue Dec  4 17:19:55 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 17:19:55 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m overnight
In-Reply-To: <004401cdd25d$15b446a0$6d01a8c0@DELL4>
References: <-2907014077545158791@unknownmsgid><BLU0-SMTP50A1ABBE8156450DE5EA0FE9470@phx.gbl><E0EEE4AEEFDF4147914F37CA012141C2@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<BLU0-SMTP43C7A326D45EFBA8F65B3AE9470@phx.gbl>
	<004401cdd25d$15b446a0$6d01a8c0@DELL4>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP80DB8ACDD078C0E7D177A0E9470@phx.gbl>

Here is a clip from just a few minutes ago - today -  showing definite QSY.
Now we await the verdict !
M P
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On 2012-12-04, at 3:22 PM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> Mitch
> 
> Caught the frequency change earlier ... http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html . Will get an accurate reading on your new frequency when I get home.
> 
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Tue Dec  4 17:29:18 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 17:29:18 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m overnight
References: <-2907014077545158791@unknownmsgid><BLU0-SMTP50A1ABBE8156450DE5EA0FE9470@phx.gbl><E0EEE4AEEFDF4147914F37CA012141C2@HPNOTEBOOK><BLU0-SMTP43C7A326D45EFBA8F65B3AE9470@phx.gbl><004401cdd25d$15b446a0$6d01a8c0@DELL4>
	<BLU0-SMTP7538EA0DB0CD8DAB232765E9470@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <004f01cdd26e$cd09cee0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Mitch

137780.48

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitch Powell" <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] 2200m overnight


> See how great those grabbers are - you never know when someone is checking !
> That's great - let me know .
> Mitch
> On 2012-12-04, at 3:22 PM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Mitch
>>
>> Caught the frequency change earlier ... http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html . Will get an accurate 
>> reading on your new frequency when I get home.
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
>>
>
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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Tue Dec  4 17:42:09 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 17:42:09 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m overnight
In-Reply-To: <004f01cdd26e$cd09cee0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <-2907014077545158791@unknownmsgid><BLU0-SMTP50A1ABBE8156450DE5EA0FE9470@phx.gbl><E0EEE4AEEFDF4147914F37CA012141C2@HPNOTEBOOK><BLU0-SMTP43C7A326D45EFBA8F65B3AE9470@phx.gbl><004401cdd25d$15b446a0$6d01a8c0@DELL4>
	<BLU0-SMTP7538EA0DB0CD8DAB232765E9470@phx.gbl>
	<004f01cdd26e$cd09cee0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP926201FB6C0D4A1B8236B9E9470@phx.gbl>

Super - thanks - that's a great help.
  
Eric - I'm not going to touch a thing - so it's a great chance to check your system.
73
Mitch
On 2012-12-04, at 5:29 PM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> Mitch
> 
> 137780.48
> 
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> 
> 


From kb4oer at gmail.com  Tue Dec  4 17:57:03 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 17:57:03 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
In-Reply-To: <50BE7443.2010408@internode.on.net>
References: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid> <50BCF8A3.9000004@verizon.net>
	<-2160847579247016675@unknownmsgid>
	<CABP+t7ay77w3RHeaU3B+u-RJicDKFj-zHywJJbGBER3oAiubDQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<50BE7443.2010408@internode.on.net>
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Bob,

Good question.

The honest answer is I don't remember why. I purchased my R-75 several
years ago, determined that it needed to be in CW reverse for proper Argo
usage, set it that way, and then didn't think about it anymore.

I *think* the reason was, if you don't put it in reverse mode, higher
frequencies will show up lower down on the Argo screen (the opposite of
what one would expect).

Or I could be completely in error.

Perhaps someone with a better memory than me can further explain.....

73, Doug KB4OER

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Bob <vk7zl at internode.on.net> wrote:

>
> On 4/12/2012 23:57, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
>
>> Yep, the R75 needs to be in CW reverse.
>>
> Why?
>
> Bob  VK7ZL
>
> --
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>
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From w1tag at charter.net  Tue Dec  4 18:18:28 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 18:18:28 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7Zeo8y-aHXa0DDL=7QXbSZJexvSgE++_Kc_NF4Ekk1AKw@mail.gmail.com>
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That is definitely the reason.

John, W1TAG

On 12/4/2012 5:57 PM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
> Bob,
>
> Good question.
>
> The honest answer is I don't remember why. I purchased my R-75 several
> years ago, determined that it needed to be in CW reverse for proper Argo
> usage, set it that way, and then didn't think about it anymore.
>
> I *think* the reason was, if you don't put it in reverse mode, higher
> frequencies will show up lower down on the Argo screen (the opposite of
> what one would expect).
>
> Or I could be completely in error.
>
> Perhaps someone with a better memory than me can further explain.....
>
> 73, Doug KB4OER
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Bob <vk7zl at internode.on.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 4/12/2012 23:57, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Yep, the R75 needs to be in CW reverse.
>>>
>> Why?
>>
>> Bob  VK7ZL
>>
>> --
>> LF/HF QRSS Grabber: http://tinyurl.com/26callh
>>
>> NDB & Navtex Logging: http://tinyurl.com/255zfm2
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Tue Dec  4 19:19:37 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 19:19:37 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR 2.11 on for the evening...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W334705724927A33BDA7796AC460@phx.gbl>





WE6XGR on for the evening usual 498 dial freq and 499.5 Tx freq-all decodes appreciated-Bob 		 	   		  

From dwilson314 at verizon.net  Tue Dec  4 21:01:15 2012
From: dwilson314 at verizon.net (David L. Wilson)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 21:01:15 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SJ - WMS
In-Reply-To: <CAE89MiSfOMq=6xHxkvXreenTugyn8RsCBvid905MOqn82eYNRg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1354625268.12980.YahooMailClassic@web125301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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I always see SJ but like you just random parts at times of WMS--never even a
complete copy of it here in Fredericksburg, VA.

--
David L. Wilson
dwilson314 at verizon.net

> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-
> bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of lloyd chastant
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 10:09 AM
> To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] SJ - WMS
> 
> Yes nice sig routine
> Lloyd W3NF
> 
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > SJ never a problem, still only traces thru the night and random
> > characters for WMS.
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From kc0bmf at gmail.com  Tue Dec  4 21:13:01 2012
From: kc0bmf at gmail.com (John Fickes)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 20:13:01 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
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          I have run into this before with my Icom's and I found this on
another discussion.

Icom transceiver User Manuals consistently state that CW and RTTY are LSB,
and that CW-R and RTTY-R are USB.
See for example the "About CW Reverse Mode" and "About RTTY Reverse Mode"
sections on pages 4-5 and 4-14 respectively of the IC-7800 User Manual.
          Hope I'm close.
             73 John KC0BMF
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:18 PM, John Andrews <w1tag at charter.net> wrote:

> That is definitely the reason.
>
> John, W1TAG
>
>
> On 12/4/2012 5:57 PM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
>
>>  Bob,
>>
>> Good question.
>>
>> The honest answer is I don't remember why. I purchased my R-75 several
>> years ago, determined that it needed to be in CW reverse for proper Argo
>> usage, set it that way, and then didn't think about it anymore.
>>
>> I *think* the reason was, if you don't put it in reverse mode, higher
>> frequencies will show up lower down on the Argo screen (the opposite of
>> what one would expect).
>>
>> Or I could be completely in error.
>>
>> Perhaps someone with a better memory than me can further explain.....
>>
>> 73, Doug KB4OER
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Bob <vk7zl at internode.on.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 4/12/2012 23:57, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep, the R75 needs to be in CW reverse.
>>>>
>>>> Why?
>>>
>>> Bob  VK7ZL
>>>
>>> --
>>> LF/HF QRSS Grabber: http://tinyurl.com/26callh
>>>
>>> NDB & Navtex Logging: http://tinyurl.com/255zfm2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From ve7sl at shaw.ca  Tue Dec  4 21:18:50 2012
From: ve7sl at shaw.ca (STEVE MCDONALD)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 19:18:50 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m overnight
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP221B71296E08C945295014E9470@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1867234712.478659.1354673929997.JavaMail.root@cds043>



>That's interesting Steve - will give it a try tonight - 


yes...that slow QRSS screen of 1240 nightime graveyards is really 
something...kind of like looking at the Hubble picture that soaked-up 
photons for 30 days and went deep...deep.

>Are you permanently on the island now ?   or still commuting ?

I am more or less permanent. We still maintain a townhouse in Vancouver but I only
go back to the city every three or four weeks and don't stay long. Sally, my xyl, goes
back and forth more often as she does some teaching and a LOT of shopping :-)

I am ready to spark-up anytime when condx look favorable at 900+ watts out. The system seems
to stay very cool and could seemingly run keydown for hours on end.

Steve / 73


From ve7sl at shaw.ca  Tue Dec  4 21:22:21 2012
From: ve7sl at shaw.ca (STEVE MCDONALD)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 19:22:21 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
In-Reply-To: <50BE7443.2010408@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <1443069633.479821.1354674141224.JavaMail.root@cds043>



> Yep, the R75 needs to be in CW reverse.
Why?

If you are watching a DFCW signal, the normal protocol 
is for the dits to be the lower frequency and the dashes the higher one.

On the R-75, with the CW-normal position, this is reversed and can lead 
to some confusion if you were expecting the 'normal' protocol.

Steve / VE7SL

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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Tue Dec  4 21:33:11 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 20:33:11 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m overnight
Message-ID: <50BEB267.8050600@sbcglobal.net>

Mitch, I have a pretty good OCXO external clock for my SDR-IQ, but it's 
not GPS accurate like Jay's setup. Nonetheless, a QRSS120 run indicates 
137780.47 Hz for your signal so the clock must be reasonably well netted 
even though it hasn't been calibrated recently.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Tue Dec  4 23:11:52 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 23:11:52 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m overnight
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Thanks for the confirmation Garry - I have set up my own receiver and now 
using the information from Jay and yourself.  Thanks both for the assist.
73
Mitch 
On 2012-12-04, at 9:33 PM, Garry Hess wrote:

> Mitch, I have a pretty good OCXO external clock for my SDR-IQ, but it's not GPS accurate like Jay's setup. Nonetheless, a QRSS120 run indicates 137780.47 Hz for your signal so the clock must be reasonably well netted even though it hasn't been calibrated recently.
> -- 
> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL


From rjraide at hotmail.com  Wed Dec  5 00:23:59 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 00:23:59 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR on 498 kHz tonite...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W42970BE5FA299999B95228AC460@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR [WE2XGR/6] NY had excellent condx tonite "across the pond". Didn't make it home till 2400Z and got decodes the instant I put the "fire to the wire"!
Thanks all who participated for over 500 decodes;
F59706
PI4THT
PA0O
G0KTN
G4ZFQ
DG3LV
WA6MPG
N4LTA
WE2XGR/2
N1DYL
KU7Z
WA3TTS 		 	   		  

From vk7zl at internode.on.net  Wed Dec  5 03:49:59 2012
From: vk7zl at internode.on.net (Bob)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 19:49:59 +1100
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
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Thanks for the replies but I can see no valid reason for using either CW 
or CWR mode and there is no advantage in using the narrow CW filters.
I use Argo and SpecLab and in both cases I use USB and tune 1KHz below 
the centre freq. of the display.
For 30M I tune 1300Hz below which allows me to run WSPR and QRSS at the 
same time.

Bob  VK7ZL


On 5/12/2012 13:13, John Fickes wrote:
>            I have run into this before with my Icom's and I found this on
> another discussion.
>
> Icom transceiver User Manuals consistently state that CW and RTTY are LSB,
> and that CW-R and RTTY-R are USB.
> See for example the "About CW Reverse Mode" and "About RTTY Reverse Mode"
> sections on pages 4-5 and 4-14 respectively of the IC-7800 User Manual.
>            Hope I'm close.
>               73 John KC0BMF
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:18 PM, John Andrews <w1tag at charter.net> wrote:
>
>> That is definitely the reason.
>>
>> John, W1TAG
>>
>>
>> On 12/4/2012 5:57 PM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
>>
>>>   Bob,
>>>
>>> Good question.
>>>
>>> The honest answer is I don't remember why. I purchased my R-75 several
>>> years ago, determined that it needed to be in CW reverse for proper Argo
>>> usage, set it that way, and then didn't think about it anymore.
>>>
>>> I *think* the reason was, if you don't put it in reverse mode, higher
>>> frequencies will show up lower down on the Argo screen (the opposite of
>>> what one would expect).
>>>
>>> Or I could be completely in error.
>>>
>>> Perhaps someone with a better memory than me can further explain.....
>>>
>>> 73, Doug KB4OER
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Bob <vk7zl at internode.on.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 4/12/2012 23:57, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yep, the R75 needs to be in CW reverse.
>>>>> Why?
>>>> Bob  VK7ZL
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> LF/HF QRSS Grabber: http://tinyurl.com/26callh
>>>>
>>>> NDB & Navtex Logging: http://tinyurl.com/255zfm2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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NDB & Navtex Logging: http://tinyurl.com/255zfm2






From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Wed Dec  5 06:01:09 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 06:01:09 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
References: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid>
	<50BCF8A3.9000004@verizon.net><-2160847579247016675@unknownmsgid><CABP+t7ay77w3RHeaU3B+u-RJicDKFj-zHywJJbGBER3oAiubDQ@mail.gmail.com><50BE7443.2010408@internode.on.net><CABP+t7Zeo8y-aHXa0DDL=7QXbSZJexvSgE++_Kc_NF4Ekk1AKw@mail.gmail.com><50BE84C4.6010507@charter.net><CAG-+cOZ=sVQy9ruEZR0psxdN9G_ZwM4r_7bBFegPv7-vLYKcrA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <001201cdd2d7$d4ec4cf0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

> Thanks for the replies but I can see no valid reason for using either CW or CWR mode and there is 
> no advantage in using the narrow CW filters.

CW / CWR places the BFO on opposite sides of the signal. CWR is the correct setting if you would 
like the frequency range of Argo, Spectrum Lab etc to display correctly.

Jay W1VD WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 


From pbunn at matrixei.com  Wed Dec  5 08:39:02 2012
From: pbunn at matrixei.com (pbunn)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 13:39:02 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
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Icom receivers, unlike Kenwood and others, use the opposite sideband for "normal" CW reception. Therefore for the frequency scale to move in the right direction on ARGO, you must switch an ICOM receiver to CW Reverse. That is the way that it was explained to me and it works with my R75.

Pat
N4LTA

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From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 5:08 PM
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Using Argo


On 4/12/2012 23:57, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
> Yep, the R75 needs to be in CW reverse.
Why?

Bob  VK7ZL

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From w4jbm at bellsouth.net  Wed Dec  5 09:00:27 2012
From: w4jbm at bellsouth.net (Jim McClanahan)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 06:00:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
In-Reply-To: <003D2333D4D5E04A8FF231DFDCFA185A1B4492C4@BLUPRD0811MB424.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
References: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid> <50BCF8A3.9000004@verizon.net>
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> Icom receivers, unlike Kenwood and others, use the opposite sideband for 
>"normal" CW reception.

I haven't had a chance to listen much lately and can't remember which radio it 
is for sure, but I think it's my TenTec 320?that I can program the sidetone 
frequency to "-700 Hz" instead of "700 Hz" so it acts my other receivers. I 
don't know how many receivers have that flexibility.

When you are looking at something like Argo or an audio spectrum tool, it makes 
more sense to me (others may be different) that if I tune up in frequency I'm 
moving the window "up" the visual display also. It is also easier for me to add 
the dial reading and the measured audio frequency to figure out exactly where 
the signal is.
73 de
Jim W4JBM 

http://www.hamuniverse.com/w4jbm/

"With a soldering iron in one hand, a schematic in the other, and a puzzled look 
on his face..." 

From w9sz.zack at gmail.com  Wed Dec  5 09:18:32 2012
From: w9sz.zack at gmail.com (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 08:18:32 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] [slightly OT] Spammers
Message-ID: <CANJxhWhW9j=dDNv=HzF+_-q3ZKrwC8AcBwv5bmshNxviibhXnA@mail.gmail.com>

I'm writing this to this group because it's a mailman.qth.net group
and I'm curious about a recent rash of (I think) spammers. I own and
run a mailman.qth.net group, MAMS (Mid-America Microwave Society, on
the other end of the spectrum). Over the last couple months I have
been deluged with membership requests. I get at least one every couple
days. They usually have a name attached. Many of them have an e-mail
address which also contains a name, but it's a different name than the
listed one. Some of the e-mail addresses are just alphabet soup. None
of them to date have had a callsign in either the e-mail address or
name listing.

I am just wondering if other mailman.qth.net group owners and
moderators are experiencing the same thing. I'd hate to deny a fellow
ham a membership in the group, but since there's no indication that
these people are hams, I just have to reject them. I tried writing to
a few of them asking of their interest in the group, and most of them
bounced. The others got no reply.

73, Zack W9SZ

From dexter.mc at gmail.com  Wed Dec  5 09:35:54 2012
From: dexter.mc at gmail.com (Dexter McIntyre W4DEX)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 09:35:54 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Spammers
In-Reply-To: <CANJxhWhW9j=dDNv=HzF+_-q3ZKrwC8AcBwv5bmshNxviibhXnA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANJxhWhW9j=dDNv=HzF+_-q3ZKrwC8AcBwv5bmshNxviibhXnA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50BF5BCA.3000504@gmail.com>

Zack Widup wrote:
> I am just wondering if other mailman.qth.net group owners and
> moderators are experiencing the same thing.
Zack,

I get the same with the dixieghz qth group.  Actually there are two 
dixieghz mail groups, the other on yahoo.  The reason is that some mw 
ops are allergic to qth and others to yahoo.  Their opinions about their 
preference seems to as rigid as their view on politics or religion so I 
gave up trying to get them all on one or the other. 

Dex

From dexter.mc at gmail.com  Wed Dec  5 09:50:30 2012
From: dexter.mc at gmail.com (Dexter McIntyre W4DEX)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 09:50:30 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <50BF5BCA.3000504@gmail.com>
References: <CANJxhWhW9j=dDNv=HzF+_-q3ZKrwC8AcBwv5bmshNxviibhXnA@mail.gmail.com>
	<50BF5BCA.3000504@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50BF5F36.5050909@gmail.com>

oops!  my previous message was intended for zack only.

Dex

From hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com  Wed Dec  5 15:37:56 2012
From: hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com (Laurence KL1 X)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 11:37:56 -0900
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XPQ
Message-ID: <BLU153-W64225DCC7CF63112214AB6CF460@phx.gbl>





 On request Ive left WE2 XPQ carrier running on 137.7800 during the  Alaska daylight and twighlight period and will run overnite thru till  Thursday appx 1600Z if it stays stable. Laurence KL 1 X  BP51IP 		 	   		  

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Wed Dec  5 16:42:26 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 16:42:26 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <50BF5F36.5050909@gmail.com>
References: <CANJxhWhW9j=dDNv=HzF+_-q3ZKrwC8AcBwv5bmshNxviibhXnA@mail.gmail.com>
	<50BF5BCA.3000504@gmail.com> <50BF5F36.5050909@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7aE8hha7ik-3pzBzjjs72F_fkiTUUmC3fsjh1v2oH=cWg@mail.gmail.com>

No worries, I've done that a couple of times.

I blame Gmail.

Gmail likes to offer "suggestions" about who you would like to send your
e-mails to. If you ignore Gmail's "suggestions" it automatically assumes
that it was correct in it's assumptions and sends the e-mail both to those
you wanted to receive it, and to those Gmail assumed you wanted to receive
it.

So, I've (hopefully) learned to be more diligent in watching the "To:" box
before I click "Send".

It's annoying, but not enough for me to drop Gmail, which (other than this)
I find extremely convenient.

73, Doug KB4OER




On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Dexter McIntyre W4DEX
<dexter.mc at gmail.com>wrote:

> oops!  my previous message was intended for zack only.
>
> Dex
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Wed Dec  5 17:20:53 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 17:20:53 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
In-Reply-To: <50BF0AB7.2010703@internode.on.net>
References: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid> <50BCF8A3.9000004@verizon.net>
	<-2160847579247016675@unknownmsgid>
	<CABP+t7ay77w3RHeaU3B+u-RJicDKFj-zHywJJbGBER3oAiubDQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<50BE7443.2010408@internode.on.net>
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Well, I see no reason why your method of using SSB USB mode would not work
with the R-75.

I have encountered a few situations, however, where narrow filters helped
my QRSS reception. One example for me is the 185.300 kHz USA Lowfer
"watering hole". I have a strong PLC very close to this frequency, so close
that it is within the passband of my R-75's narrowest CW filter (250 Hz). I
notice a distinct improvement in QRSS reception resolution on this
frequency, using ARGO, when I use my Winradio SDR and set the filter width
to 150 Hz or less. So yes, at least for me, there are times when it is
advantageous to use a narrow filter (I.F. audio, or software defined)
filter before sending the data on to Argo (or Spectran or Spectrum Lab) for
QRSS decoding.

LF is different that 30 meters.

73, Doug KB4OER




On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:49 AM, Bob <vk7zl at internode.on.net> wrote:

> Thanks for the replies but I can see no valid reason for using either CW
> or CWR mode and there is no advantage in using the narrow CW filters.
> I use Argo and SpecLab and in both cases I use USB and tune 1KHz below the
> centre freq. of the display.
> For 30M I tune 1300Hz below which allows me to run WSPR and QRSS at the
> same time.
>
> Bob  VK7ZL
>
>
>

From ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com  Wed Dec  5 17:53:20 2012
From: ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com (ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 17:53:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
Message-ID: <3ac0e.6673155.3df12a60@aol.com>

Hi Doug,
Have you tried using the R75 twin PBT to advantage? For it to work at 
its best you should have 2 x 250Hz filters, one in the 9 mHz IF and 
one in the 455 kHz IF. I find with careful adjustment of the twin PBT
I can narrow the IF down to about 80 - 100Hz or so. Also by playing
with the settings I can enhance the rejection of an unwanted carrier
on the "lower" side or "upper" side of the desired signal.
 
Like you mentioned this can be useful when using ARGO to help
keep an unwanted carrier from "bleeding over" into the desired 
QRSS display window.
 
73 - Todd WD4NGG
 
In a message dated 12/5/2012 5:20:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
kb4oer at gmail.com writes:
Well, I see no reason why your method of using SSB  USB mode would not work
with the R-75.

I have encountered a few  situations, however, where narrow filters helped
my QRSS reception. One  example for me is the 185.300 kHz USA Lowfer
"watering hole". I have a strong  PLC very close to this frequency, so close
that it is within the passband of  my R-75's narrowest CW filter (250 Hz). I
notice a distinct improvement in  QRSS reception resolution on this
frequency, using ARGO, when I use my  Winradio SDR and set the filter width
to 150 Hz or less. So yes, at least for  me, there are times when it is
advantageous to use a narrow filter (I.F.  audio, or software defined)
filter before sending the data on to Argo (or  Spectran or Spectrum Lab) for
QRSS decoding.

LF is different that 30  meters.

73, Doug KB4OER
 

From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Wed Dec  5 17:58:42 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 22:58:42 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. Transmitting every night from sunset until sunrise
 (weather permitting) at 495.9KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50BD2808.7070907@bellsouth.net>
References: <50BD2808.7070907@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50BFD1A2.5050709@bellsouth.net>



*Frequency 495.9KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/








From w1tag at charter.net  Wed Dec  5 18:04:25 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 18:04:25 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
In-Reply-To: <3ac0e.6673155.3df12a60@aol.com>
References: <3ac0e.6673155.3df12a60@aol.com>
Message-ID: <50BFD2F9.9050806@charter.net>

Todd,

Just one thing about that, which Jay recently reminded me of. Those PBT 
controls will slightly perturb the output frequency. So, for really 
fussy stuff, be sure to recheck the the calibration for receiver offset. 
Not a big deal for most situations.

John, W1TAG

On 12/5/2012 5:53 PM, ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com wrote:
> Hi Doug,
> Have you tried using the R75 twin PBT to advantage? For it to work at
> its best you should have 2 x 250Hz filters, one in the 9 mHz IF and
> one in the 455 kHz IF. I find with careful adjustment of the twin PBT
> I can narrow the IF down to about 80 - 100Hz or so. Also by playing
> with the settings I can enhance the rejection of an unwanted carrier
> on the "lower" side or "upper" side of the desired signal.
>
> Like you mentioned this can be useful when using ARGO to help
> keep an unwanted carrier from "bleeding over" into the desired
> QRSS display window.
>
> 73 - Todd WD4NGG
>
> In a message dated 12/5/2012 5:20:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> kb4oer at gmail.com writes:
> Well, I see no reason why your method of using SSB  USB mode would not work
> with the R-75.
>
> I have encountered a few  situations, however, where narrow filters helped
> my QRSS reception. One  example for me is the 185.300 kHz USA Lowfer
> "watering hole". I have a strong  PLC very close to this frequency, so close
> that it is within the passband of  my R-75's narrowest CW filter (250 Hz). I
> notice a distinct improvement in  QRSS reception resolution on this
> frequency, using ARGO, when I use my  Winradio SDR and set the filter width
> to 150 Hz or less. So yes, at least for  me, there are times when it is
> advantageous to use a narrow filter (I.F.  audio, or software defined)
> filter before sending the data on to Argo (or  Spectran or Spectrum Lab) for
> QRSS decoding.
>
> LF is different that 30  meters.
>
> 73, Doug KB4OER
>
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Wed Dec  5 19:08:28 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 19:08:28 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR on for the evening...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W410990547F66F8118FE755AC450@phx.gbl>





WE6XGR NY on WSPR for the evening 498 Dial freq-499.5 Tx freq-all decodes appreciated-bob 		 	   		  

From vk7zl at internode.on.net  Wed Dec  5 19:41:48 2012
From: vk7zl at internode.on.net (Bob)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 00:41:48 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7aaQkq4YPivkk6DuBDZ1v+60hTF0k2=Gm8BdboqV1GSqw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid> <50BCF8A3.9000004@verizon.net>
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	<CABP+t7ay77w3RHeaU3B+u-RJicDKFj-zHywJJbGBER3oAiubDQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<50BE7443.2010408@internode.on.net>
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Message-ID: <50BFE9CC.1070506@internode.on.net>

On the R-75, CW-R is the same as USB (the User Manual is incorrect) so 
tuning up in freq causes the signal to go down on the display and as we 
are not chasing signals it is somewhat irrelevant.
With SpecLab that effect is overcome by using a negative offset value.

I seem to recall that both Wolf and Alberto advising against using 
filtering of the signal, the filtering is done within the software, 
provided the correct bandwidth is setup.

Bob  VK7ZL



On 5/12/2012 22:20, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
> Well, I see no reason why your method of using SSB USB mode would not work
> with the R-75.
>
> I have encountered a few situations, however, where narrow filters helped
> my QRSS reception. One example for me is the 185.300 kHz USA Lowfer
> "watering hole". I have a strong PLC very close to this frequency, so close
> that it is within the passband of my R-75's narrowest CW filter (250 Hz). I
> notice a distinct improvement in QRSS reception resolution on this
> frequency, using ARGO, when I use my Winradio SDR and set the filter width
> to 150 Hz or less. So yes, at least for me, there are times when it is
> advantageous to use a narrow filter (I.F. audio, or software defined)
> filter before sending the data on to Argo (or Spectran or Spectrum Lab) for
> QRSS decoding.
>
> LF is different that 30 meters.
>
> 73, Doug KB4OER
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:49 AM, Bob <vk7zl at internode.on.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the replies but I can see no valid reason for using either CW
>> or CWR mode and there is no advantage in using the narrow CW filters.
>> I use Argo and SpecLab and in both cases I use USB and tune 1KHz below the
>> centre freq. of the display.
>> For 30M I tune 1300Hz below which allows me to run WSPR and QRSS at the
>> same time.
>>
>> Bob  VK7ZL
>>
>>
>>
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From esmithmail at gmail.com  Wed Dec  5 20:26:29 2012
From: esmithmail at gmail.com (Eric Smith)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 19:26:29 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
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Message-ID: <228167045078878169@unknownmsgid>

Thanks to everyone for all the good info on this thread.

I used Jay's reading on Mitch's signal and found I was .13 Hz high.
So, where I had 137000 entered as my offset, I subtracted .13 and
entered 136999.87 ... which had desired and undesired results:

On the desirable side, I have Mitch at 137780.48 Hz, same as last night.

On the undesirable side, the log on the right-hand side of the screen
is no longer nice integers ... I have numbers going up the scale like
"137778.87, 137779.37, 137779.87", and etc.

Probably a really easy way to fix this ... but I'm missing it ....

Lastly, so far the only signal I have copied is Mitch's ... however I
don't have a serious LF antenna in the air at the moment, only the
G5RV.  I am working on getting one raised, though.

And I will keep listening ...

Eric KD5UWL



On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:41 PM, Bob <vk7zl at internode.on.net> wrote:

> On the R-75, CW-R is the same as USB (the User Manual is incorrect) so tuning up in freq causes the signal to go down on the display and as we are not chasing signals it is somewhat irrelevant.
> With SpecLab that effect is overcome by using a negative offset value.
>
> I seem to recall that both Wolf and Alberto advising against using filtering of the signal, the filtering is done within the software, provided the correct bandwidth is setup.
>
> Bob  VK7ZL
>
>
>
> On 5/12/2012 22:20, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
>> Well, I see no reason why your method of using SSB USB mode would not work
>> with the R-75.
>>
>> I have encountered a few situations, however, where narrow filters helped
>> my QRSS reception. One example for me is the 185.300 kHz USA Lowfer
>> "watering hole". I have a strong PLC very close to this frequency, so close
>> that it is within the passband of my R-75's narrowest CW filter (250 Hz). I
>> notice a distinct improvement in QRSS reception resolution on this
>> frequency, using ARGO, when I use my Winradio SDR and set the filter width
>> to 150 Hz or less. So yes, at least for me, there are times when it is
>> advantageous to use a narrow filter (I.F. audio, or software defined)
>> filter before sending the data on to Argo (or Spectran or Spectrum Lab) for
>> QRSS decoding.
>>
>> LF is different that 30 meters.
>>
>> 73, Doug KB4OER
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:49 AM, Bob <vk7zl at internode.on.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the replies but I can see no valid reason for using either CW
>>> or CWR mode and there is no advantage in using the narrow CW filters.
>>> I use Argo and SpecLab and in both cases I use USB and tune 1KHz below the
>>> centre freq. of the display.
>>> For 30M I tune 1300Hz below which allows me to run WSPR and QRSS at the
>>> same time.
>>>
>>> Bob  VK7ZL
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> Lowfer mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
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>
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>
>
>
>
>
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Wed Dec  5 20:28:38 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 20:28:38 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
References: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid>
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> as we are not chasing signals it is somewhat irrelevant. With SpecLab that effect is overcome by 
> using a negative offset value.

And then lower frequencies are at the top of the waterfall and higher frequencies at the bottom ... 
at odds with what everyone else on the planet is doing. DFCW is still inverted.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob" <vk7zl at internode.on.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Using Argo


> On the R-75, CW-R is the same as USB (the User Manual is incorrect) so tuning up in freq causes 
> the signal to go down on the display and With SpecLab that effect is overcome by using a negative 
> offset value.
>
> I seem to recall that both Wolf and Alberto advising against using filtering of the signal, the 
> filtering is done within the software, provided the correct bandwidth is setup.
>
> Bob  VK7ZL
>
>
>
> On 5/12/2012 22:20, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
>> Well, I see no reason why your method of using SSB USB mode would not work
>> with the R-75.
>>
>> I have encountered a few situations, however, where narrow filters helped
>> my QRSS reception. One example for me is the 185.300 kHz USA Lowfer
>> "watering hole". I have a strong PLC very close to this frequency, so close
>> that it is within the passband of my R-75's narrowest CW filter (250 Hz). I
>> notice a distinct improvement in QRSS reception resolution on this
>> frequency, using ARGO, when I use my Winradio SDR and set the filter width
>> to 150 Hz or less. So yes, at least for me, there are times when it is
>> advantageous to use a narrow filter (I.F. audio, or software defined)
>> filter before sending the data on to Argo (or Spectran or Spectrum Lab) for
>> QRSS decoding.
>>
>> LF is different that 30 meters.
>>
>> 73, Doug KB4OER
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:49 AM, Bob <vk7zl at internode.on.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the replies but I can see no valid reason for using either CW
>>> or CWR mode and there is no advantage in using the narrow CW filters.
>>> I use Argo and SpecLab and in both cases I use USB and tune 1KHz below the
>>> centre freq. of the display.
>>> For 30M I tune 1300Hz below which allows me to run WSPR and QRSS at the
>>> same time.
>>>
>>> Bob  VK7ZL
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From vk7zl at internode.on.net  Wed Dec  5 20:49:04 2012
From: vk7zl at internode.on.net (Bob)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 01:49:04 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
In-Reply-To: <001901cdd351$05270f30$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid>
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> And then lower frequencies are at the top of the waterfall and higher 
> frequencies at the bottom ... at odds with what everyone else on the 
> planet is doing.
Purely cosmetic.

> DFCW is still inverted. 
There is no defined standard for DFCW.

Bob  VK7ZL


From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Wed Dec  5 20:55:57 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 20:55:57 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
References: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid><50BCF8A3.9000004@verizon.net><-2160847579247016675@unknownmsgid><CABP+t7ay77w3RHeaU3B+u-RJicDKFj-zHywJJbGBER3oAiubDQ@mail.gmail.com><50BE7443.2010408@internode.on.net><CABP+t7Zeo8y-aHXa0DDL=7QXbSZJexvSgE++_Kc_NF4Ekk1AKw@mail.gmail.com><50BE84C4.6010507@charter.net><CAG-+cOZ=sVQy9ruEZR0psxdN9G_ZwM4r_7bBFegPv7-vLYKcrA@mail.gmail.com><50BF0AB7.2010703@internode.on.net><CABP+t7aaQkq4YPivkk6DuBDZ1v+60hTF0k2=Gm8BdboqV1GSqw@mail.gmail.com><50BFE9CC.1070506@internode.on.net><001901cdd351$05270f30$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
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Okay ... you do it your way. Maybe it's some kind of a southern hemisphere 'inversion'  thing ;~)

Jay
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob" <vk7zl at internode.on.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Using Argo


> 
> 
>> And then lower frequencies are at the top of the waterfall and higher 
>> frequencies at the bottom ... at odds with what everyone else on the 
>> planet is doing.
> Purely cosmetic.
> 
>> DFCW is still inverted. 
> There is no defined standard for DFCW.
> 
> Bob  VK7ZL
> 
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From esmithmail at gmail.com  Wed Dec  5 21:02:12 2012
From: esmithmail at gmail.com (Eric Smith)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 20:02:12 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
In-Reply-To: <000601cdd354$d5ad9950$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
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Ummm ... but is it purely cosmetic?  What about graphic modes?  Hell
and all that?  And "Wm" would be "wM" ... which can be significant ...
remember, as an example, for a while Bill had one letter on one loop,
and the other letter on a different loop, and wanted to compare
signals.




On Dec 5, 2012, at 7:56 PM, "jrusgrove at comcast.net"
<jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> Okay ... you do it your way. Maybe it's some kind of a southern hemisphere 'inversion'  thing ;~)
>
> Jay
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <vk7zl at internode.on.net>
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Using Argo
>
>
>>> And then lower frequencies are at the top of the waterfall and higher frequencies at the bottom ... at odds with what everyone else on the planet is doing.
>> Purely cosmetic.
>>> DFCW is still inverted.
>> There is no defined standard for DFCW.
>> Bob  VK7ZL
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From vk7zl at internode.on.net  Wed Dec  5 21:44:12 2012
From: vk7zl at internode.on.net (Bob)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 02:44:12 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Using Argo
In-Reply-To: <000601cdd354$d5ad9950$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <-4426076118962249306@unknownmsgid><50BCF8A3.9000004@verizon.net><-2160847579247016675@unknownmsgid><CABP+t7ay77w3RHeaU3B+u-RJicDKFj-zHywJJbGBER3oAiubDQ@mail.gmail.com><50BE7443.2010408@internode.on.net><CABP+t7Zeo8y-aHXa0DDL=7QXbSZJexvSgE++_Kc_NF4Ekk1AKw@mail.gmail.com><50BE84C4.6010507@charter.net><CAG-+cOZ=sVQy9ruEZR0psxdN9G_ZwM4r_7bBFegPv7-vLYKcrA@mail.gmail.com><50BF0AB7.2010703@internode.on.net><CABP+t7aaQkq4YPivkk6DuBDZ1v+60hTF0k2=Gm8BdboqV1GSqw@mail.gmail.com><50BFE9CC.1070506@internode.on.net><001901cdd351$05270f30$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
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	<000601cdd354$d5ad9950$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
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I have always run mine in the conventional manner.
Using CW-R does not fix the inverted tuning problem.

Bob


> Okay ... you do it your way. Maybe it's some kind of a southern 
> hemisphere 'inversion'  thing ;~)
>
> Jay
>

From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Wed Dec  5 23:34:34 2012
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 20:34:34 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] [slightly OT] Spammers
References: <CANJxhWhW9j=dDNv=HzF+_-q3ZKrwC8AcBwv5bmshNxviibhXnA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <022a01cdd36c$6deed5f0$7fdff604@mainframe>

: I am just wondering if other mailman.qth.net group owners and
: moderators are experiencing the same thing. I'd hate to deny a fellow

I've been getting a rash of those through a different host, non-traceable, 
no response to name/callsign/other forums involved requests, no valid info 
included in the request to join, so, I just ignore them.

Kurt 


From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  6 00:12:07 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 21:12:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XPQ
In-Reply-To: <BLU153-W64225DCC7CF63112214AB6CF460@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1354770727.70604.YahooMailClassic@web125302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Laurence: I hope you are still TX-ing with no problems..
I have the receiver running, and ARGO digging at 120 dots..
My grabber is up, if you want to look thru the night:

http://lwca.org/grabbers/ku4xr/

There will without any doubt be a noticable drift at this 
resolution speed, But you can use Mitch's signal as a " Go By " 
I have a second instance of ARGO doing captures while I snooze..

73, and here's hoping for a carrier line...

Andy - KU4XR


--- On Wed, 12/5/12, Laurence KL1 X <hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  On request Ive left WE2 XPQ carrier running on 137.7800
> during the? Alaska daylight and twighlight period and
> will run overnite thru till? Thursday appx 1600Z if it
> stays stable. Laurence KL 1 X? BP51IP
> ???


From rjraide at hotmail.com  Thu Dec  6 00:48:33 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 00:48:33 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonight on 498 kHz
Message-ID: <BLU162-W293E209D3E78E0E42CA440AC450@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR NY found decent condx into Europe/UK/Scandinavia tonite.  Couple new decoders to this station as well-thanks fellas for your great decoding efforts.
Looking forward to Friday nite to try some WSPR on 137 kHz band-hope there mite be some interest?
 
F59706
VE6OG
OH5YW
PA0O
PI4THT
DG3LV
G0KTN
W3NF 		 	   		  

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Thu Dec  6 05:31:07 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 05:31:07 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonight on 498 kHz
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W293E209D3E78E0E42CA440AC450@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W293E209D3E78E0E42CA440AC450@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7Yvrpoj3xbRqn+6jRpgsn1ru9s1iiCjw_MFVqFVzQFwGw@mail.gmail.com>

Absolutely.

-Doug

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Bob Raide <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Looking forward to Friday nite to try some WSPR on 137 kHz band-hope there
> mite be some interest?
>
>

From w1tag at charter.net  Thu Dec  6 06:49:33 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 06:49:33 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XPQ
In-Reply-To: <BLU153-W64225DCC7CF63112214AB6CF460@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU153-W64225DCC7CF63112214AB6CF460@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <50C0864D.8040505@charter.net>

Laurence,

Nil.

John, W1TAG

On 12/5/2012 3:37 PM, Laurence KL1 X wrote:
>
>
>
>
>   On request Ive left WE2 XPQ carrier running on 137.7800 during the  Alaska daylight and twighlight period and will run overnite thru till  Thursday appx 1600Z if it stays stable. Laurence KL 1 X  BP51IP 		 	   		
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>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
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>

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Thu Dec  6 07:14:33 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 07:14:33 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XPQ
References: <BLU153-W64225DCC7CF63112214AB6CF460@phx.gbl>
	<50C0864D.8040505@charter.net>
Message-ID: <000801cdd3ab$42847de0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Ditto.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag at charter.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WE2XPQ


> Laurence,
>
> Nil.
>
> John, W1TAG
>
> On 12/5/2012 3:37 PM, Laurence KL1 X wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   On request Ive left WE2 XPQ carrier running on 137.7800 during the  Alaska daylight and 
>> twighlight period and will run overnite thru till  Thursday appx 1600Z if it stays stable. 
>> Laurence KL 1 X  BP51IP    ______________________________________________________________
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From esmithmail at gmail.com  Thu Dec  6 08:07:25 2012
From: esmithmail at gmail.com (Eric Smith)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 07:07:25 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] London -> Edmond pipeline
Message-ID: <-3465412910014301353@unknownmsgid>

MP dogbones most of the night!  Will post some captures tonight.

1000 miles or 1610 km.

Will try to improve antenna ASAP in hopes of capturing anyone else.
Not sure who all is active .. lwca list reasonably accurate?

Eric KD5UWL

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  6 08:23:32 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 05:23:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] wishful - XPQ
Message-ID: <1354800212.52480.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Laurence:

A very brief line appeared dead on where you reported
your carrier to be.. From 9:22 to 9:33 UTC.. I set my
ARGO for MP to be at 137780.48.. his last reported
frequency.. My rig had drifted down .12 Hz putting 
MP at 780.60... The mystery " line " as I'll call it;
is at 780.12 as you can see in the capture.. I use a
550 Hz offset, so 551.12 is 137780.12 KHz.. Subtract 
the .12 Hz drift; and the line is " dead On " 137780 KHz

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49203948/wishful%20XPQ%2012-6-12.jpg

Probably very Extreme - wishful thinking, but there 
certainly is, at the least " a line " showing up..
No Way of knowing if it is really " XPQ " 
Have a great day, and 73:

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr

From ku7zdn41 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  6 09:39:41 2012
From: ku7zdn41 at gmail.com (Mark Ku7z)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 07:39:41 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XPQ
In-Reply-To: <BLU153-W64225DCC7CF63112214AB6CF460@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU153-W64225DCC7CF63112214AB6CF460@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <50C0AE2D.4010802@gmail.com>

Laurence, looks like you showed up around the 0900 utc range and maybe a 
little bit in the 1100 utc range.  I ran qrss60 using cw and narrow 
filter at 600 hz.  Got some purty good noise and birdies when pointing 
the loop at you.  MP was in off the side as well above your signal.  
Hopefully I got the link below correct.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h00ha5ptripfrwo/20121206_600_0002.jpg

73, Mark, Ku7z
DN41af



On 12/5/2012 1:37 PM, Laurence KL1 X wrote:
>
>
>
>   On request Ive left WE2 XPQ carrier running on 137.7800 during the  Alaska daylight and twighlight period and will run overnite thru till  Thursday appx 1600Z if it stays stable. Laurence KL 1 X  BP51IP 		 	   		
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From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Thu Dec  6 11:13:31 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 16:13:31 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - NEW WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. TXing every night from sunset until sunrise (weather
 permitting) at 475.7 KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50BFD1A2.5050709@bellsouth.net>
References: <50BFD1A2.5050709@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50C0C42B.3030202@bellsouth.net>



*Dial Frequency 474.2 KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/







From L.Howell at conocophillips.com  Thu Dec  6 12:15:43 2012
From: L.Howell at conocophillips.com (Howell, Laurence J)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:15:43 -0900
Subject: [Lowfer] wishful - XPQ
In-Reply-To: <1354800212.52480.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1354800212.52480.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F1024B91C2B8B34C934F5E95F449105C2274B5DEAE@ANCEXMB71.conoco.net>

Thanks Andy and others for looking   - appreciate it




Laurence:

A very brief line appeared dead on where you reported
your carrier to be.. From 9:22 to 9:33 UTC.. I set my
ARGO for MP to be at 137780.48.. his last reported
frequency.. My rig had drifted down .12 Hz putting 
MP at 780.60... The mystery " line " as I'll call it;
is at 780.12 as you can see in the capture.. I use a
550 Hz offset, so 551.12 is 137780.12 KHz.. Subtract 
the .12 Hz drift; and the line is " dead On " 137780 KHz

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49203948/wishful%20XPQ%2012-6-12.jpg

Probably very Extreme - wishful thinking, but there 
certainly is, at the least " a line " showing up..
No Way of knowing if it is really " XPQ " 
Have a great day, and 73:

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr
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From L.Howell at conocophillips.com  Thu Dec  6 12:18:46 2012
From: L.Howell at conocophillips.com (Howell, Laurence J)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:18:46 -0900
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XPQ
In-Reply-To: <50C0AE2D.4010802@gmail.com>
References: <BLU153-W64225DCC7CF63112214AB6CF460@phx.gbl>
	<50C0AE2D.4010802@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F1024B91C2B8B34C934F5E95F449105C2274B5DEB3@ANCEXMB71.conoco.net>

Data looks good Mark and your in a nullish of the loop- c

Conditions still not hot at all and some wayz to go. Still its expanding my engineering experiences at these RF current levels!



Laurence
.
>
>

-----Original Message-----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mark Ku7z
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 5:40 AM
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands
Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: [Lowfer] WE2XPQ

Laurence, looks like you showed up around the 0900 utc range and maybe a 
little bit in the 1100 utc range.  I ran qrss60 using cw and narrow 
filter at 600 hz.  Got some purty good noise and birdies when pointing 
the loop at you.  MP was in off the side as well above your signal.  
Hopefully I got the link below correct.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h00ha5ptripfrwo/20121206_600_0002.jpg

73, Mark, Ku7z
DN41af



On 12/5/2012 1:37 PM, Laurence KL1 X wrote:
>
>
>
>   On request Ive left WE2 XPQ carrier running on 137.7800 during the  Alaska daylight and twighlight period and will run overnite thru till  Thursday appx 1600Z if it stays stable. Laurence KL 1 X  BP51IP 		 	   		
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From listread at lwca.org  Thu Dec  6 12:25:52 2012
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:25:52 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon Updates - was: London -> Edmond pipeline
References: <-3465412910014301353@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <A3876E4BC94F4EF19883680FC855A75E@HPNOTEBOOK>

>>> .. lwca list reasonably accurate?

As current as the updates we have received from operators!

Which is a good occasion for me to remind everyone...if you have a schedule 
or frequency change for your 1750 m station or 2200 m beacon (I emphasize 
beacon especially for 2200, as we all recognize a lot of other operation 
there is catch-as-catch-can and is harder to list), please be sure to ALSO 
post your changes at http://lwca.org/mb  to be doubly sure I see it, and get 
it in the list faster.

Important stuff can get swamped in a person's Inbox when there's a flurry of 
activity on this reflector...and other times not everybody gets all their 
e-mail reliably, as evidenced by all the "test" messages that were being 
posted here a week or so ago.  I know I sometimes see replies to postings 
that never made it to my own Inbox, too.  So, to make sure nothing gets 
missed, also post it to the Message Board where it's not only visible to me 
but also to everyone else who depends on the LWCA list.

And of course, it's every bit as important to let everyone know when you're 
off as it is to let us know when you're on!

Thanks.

John D

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Thu Dec  6 12:35:08 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 12:35:08 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite and hopefully thru the weekend will be on 137.7
In-Reply-To: <A3876E4BC94F4EF19883680FC855A75E@HPNOTEBOOK>
References: <-3465412910014301353@unknownmsgid>,
	<A3876E4BC94F4EF19883680FC855A75E@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <BLU162-W230DACB8159D0B853A403AAC450@phx.gbl>



WE2XEB will be trying out 2200 m 137.7 with WSPR for a frew nights to see what shakes ... WE2XEB takes over from WE6XGR that of late I have been operating.  All decodes welcome tonight thru the weekend-Bob 

> From: listread at lwca.org
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:25:52 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Beacon Updates - was: London -> Edmond pipeline
> 
> >>> .. lwca list reasonably accurate?
> 
> As current as the updates we have received from operators!
> 
> Which is a good occasion for me to remind everyone...if you have a schedule 
> or frequency change for your 1750 m station or 2200 m beacon (I emphasize 
> beacon especially for 2200, as we all recognize a lot of other operation 
> there is catch-as-catch-can and is harder to list), please be sure to ALSO 
> post your changes at http://lwca.org/mb to be doubly sure I see it, and get 
> it in the list faster.
> 
> Important stuff can get swamped in a person's Inbox when there's a flurry of 
> activity on this reflector...and other times not everybody gets all their 
> e-mail reliably, as evidenced by all the "test" messages that were being 
> posted here a week or so ago. I know I sometimes see replies to postings 
> that never made it to my own Inbox, too. So, to make sure nothing gets 
> missed, also post it to the Message Board where it's not only visible to me 
> but also to everyone else who depends on the LWCA list.
> 
> And of course, it's every bit as important to let everyone know when you're 
> off as it is to let us know when you're on!
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> John D
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Thu Dec  6 13:18:47 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (K2ORS)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:18:47 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite and hopefully thru the weekend will be on
 137.7
References: <-3465412910014301353@unknownmsgid>,
	<A3876E4BC94F4EF19883680FC855A75E@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<BLU162-W230DACB8159D0B853A403AAC450@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <EB160DC1E9F8450A985BC131015137F1@DC66PRF1>

Bob,
   You were missed on 160m AM  last night.

73 Warren

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Raide" <rjraide at hotmail.com>
To: "Bob Raide" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 12:35 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite and hopefully thru the weekend will be on 
137.7


>
>
> WE2XEB will be trying out 2200 m 137.7 with WSPR for a frew nights to see 
> what shakes ... WE2XEB takes over from WE6XGR that of late I have been 
> operating.  All decodes welcome tonight thru the weekend-Bob
>
>> From: listread at lwca.org
>> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:25:52 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Beacon Updates - was: London -> Edmond pipeline
>>
>> >>> .. lwca list reasonably accurate?
>>
>> As current as the updates we have received from operators!
>>
>> Which is a good occasion for me to remind everyone...if you have a 
>> schedule
>> or frequency change for your 1750 m station or 2200 m beacon (I emphasize
>> beacon especially for 2200, as we all recognize a lot of other operation
>> there is catch-as-catch-can and is harder to list), please be sure to 
>> ALSO
>> post your changes at http://lwca.org/mb to be doubly sure I see it, and 
>> get
>> it in the list faster.
>>
>> Important stuff can get swamped in a person's Inbox when there's a flurry 
>> of
>> activity on this reflector...and other times not everybody gets all their
>> e-mail reliably, as evidenced by all the "test" messages that were being
>> posted here a week or so ago. I know I sometimes see replies to postings
>> that never made it to my own Inbox, too. So, to make sure nothing gets
>> missed, also post it to the Message Board where it's not only visible to 
>> me
>> but also to everyone else who depends on the LWCA list.
>>
>> And of course, it's every bit as important to let everyone know when 
>> you're
>> off as it is to let us know when you're on!
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> John D
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From w1tag at charter.net  Thu Dec  6 16:10:07 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 16:10:07 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite and hopefully thru the weekend will be on
	137.7
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W230DACB8159D0B853A403AAC450@phx.gbl>
References: <-3465412910014301353@unknownmsgid>
	<A3876E4BC94F4EF19883680FC855A75E@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<BLU162-W230DACB8159D0B853A403AAC450@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CD5183CD-BCC7-41AC-9D9F-B5D671E97780@charter.net>

Bob,

Presumably that's the actual transmit frequency. If that's the USB dial frequency, then you'll be beyond the 137.8 limit in your license. 

John, W1TAG



On Dec 6, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Bob Raide <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> WE2XEB will be trying out 2200 m 137.7 with WSPR for a frew nights to see what shakes ... WE2XEB takes over from WE6XGR that of late I have been operating.  All decodes welcome tonight thru the weekend-Bob 
> 
>> From: listread at lwca.org
>> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:25:52 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Beacon Updates - was: London -> Edmond pipeline
>> 
>>>>> .. lwca list reasonably accurate?
>> 
>> As current as the updates we have received from operators!
>> 
>> Which is a good occasion for me to remind everyone...if you have a schedule 
>> or frequency change for your 1750 m station or 2200 m beacon (I emphasize 
>> beacon especially for 2200, as we all recognize a lot of other operation 
>> there is catch-as-catch-can and is harder to list), please be sure to ALSO 
>> post your changes at http://lwca.org/mb to be doubly sure I see it, and get 
>> it in the list faster.
>> 
>> Important stuff can get swamped in a person's Inbox when there's a flurry of 
>> activity on this reflector...and other times not everybody gets all their 
>> e-mail reliably, as evidenced by all the "test" messages that were being 
>> posted here a week or so ago. I know I sometimes see replies to postings 
>> that never made it to my own Inbox, too. So, to make sure nothing gets 
>> missed, also post it to the Message Board where it's not only visible to me 
>> but also to everyone else who depends on the LWCA list.
>> 
>> And of course, it's every bit as important to let everyone know when you're 
>> off as it is to let us know when you're on!
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> John D
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Thu Dec  6 17:32:50 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 17:32:50 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR 2.11 on 2200 Meter wave for this evening...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W4727C113CAF520798450F3AC450@phx.gbl>


WE2XEB will be on 136.0 Dial freq-137.5 Tx freq for tonite starting 2300Z and the weekend evenings.  Decodes will be appreciated-Bob 		 	   		  

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Thu Dec  6 17:40:44 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 17:40:44 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR change of freq...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W2338E7E9B64BFC3C3E9D44AC450@phx.gbl>


PA0A is on 137.5.  WE2XEB will be as earlier planed on 137.7 Tx freq-136.2 Dial freq. Sorry for mix up! Bob 		 	   		  

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Thu Dec  6 18:02:04 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:02:04 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR change of freq...
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W2338E7E9B64BFC3C3E9D44AC450@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W2338E7E9B64BFC3C3E9D44AC450@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7ad5Pe3GAscZG7+faOpW=ExtfjS_KJjsHD71KMJd+A7tw@mail.gmail.com>

You are decoded, Sir.

2258 -12 -1.2   0.137711  0 WE2XEB FN12 40

73 de KB4OER




On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Bob Raide <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> PA0A is on 137.5.  WE2XEB will be as earlier planed on 137.7 Tx freq-136.2
> Dial freq. Sorry for mix up! Bob
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Thu Dec  6 18:16:23 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:16:23 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR change of freq...
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W644D2C867F1A9EA84005ABAC450@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W2338E7E9B64BFC3C3E9D44AC450@phx.gbl>
	<CABP+t7ad5Pe3GAscZG7+faOpW=ExtfjS_KJjsHD71KMJd+A7tw@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU162-W644D2C867F1A9EA84005ABAC450@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7aoWPP3sZMqbVaVdUbWMgU8+3xy9+L+-pamnAkO1Bjs9A@mail.gmail.com>

The lower the frequency, the happier I am.  :-)

What are you using for a transmit antenna?

-Doug

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Bob Raide <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Thanks Doug. Good to know its running as planned-Bob
>
> > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:02:04 -0500
> > From: kb4oer at gmail.com
> > To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WSPR change of freq...
>
> >
> > You are decoded, Sir.
> >
> > 2258 -12 -1.2 0.137711 0 WE2XEB FN12 40
> >
> > 73 de KB4OER
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Bob Raide <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > PA0A is on 137.5.  WE2XEB will be as earlier planed on 137.7 Tx
> freq-136.2
> > > Dial freq. Sorry for mix up! Bob
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Thu Dec  6 18:31:16 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:31:16 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XNS 137.781 kHz
Message-ID: <003501cdd409$ca416550$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

WD2XNS will be cooking spiders for the next couple hours on 137.781. Reports appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  6 18:32:51 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 15:32:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR change of freq...
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7aoWPP3sZMqbVaVdUbWMgU8+3xy9+L+-pamnAkO1Bjs9A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1354836771.99323.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Oh My !!! The dreaded LF bug has bitten again... and reportedly
there is no known cure... < G > 

Andy

--- On Thu, 12/6/12, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:
> The lower the frequency, the happier
> I am.? :-)
> 
> What are you using for a transmit antenna?
> 
> -Doug
> 


From hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com  Thu Dec  6 18:38:45 2012
From: hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com (Laurence KL1 X)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 14:38:45 -0900
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XNS 137.781 kHz
In-Reply-To: <003501cdd409$ca416550$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <003501cdd409$ca416550$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <BLU153-W228514D8D556C491FD5EBACF450@phx.gbl>


Jay - yesterday "hiding" in the bottom of my Coupler I found one of these from the Oklahoma 2005 days - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tibicen_linnei.jpg  it doesnt appears to have been fried by the RF fields.... Was wondering what the rattling noise was coming from :-) 
 > From: jrusgrove at comcast.net
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:31:16 -0500
> Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XNS 137.781 kHz
> 
> WD2XNS will be cooking spiders for the next couple hours on 137.781. Reports appreciated.
> 
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec  6 18:40:47 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:40:47 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR change of freq...
Message-ID: <50C12CFF.1090902@sbcglobal.net>

Bob, the WSPR Spot Database doesn't seem to be accepting 137.7 kHz. So 
far my decodes are:

121206 2332  10 -22 -0.5   0.137700  WE2XEB FN12 40          0 10582    0
121206 2334  13 -19  0.0   0.137700  WE2XEB FN12 40          0     1    0
121206 2336  11 -22 -0.2   0.137700  WE2XEB FN12 40          0     1    0
121206 2338  13 -19 -0.5   0.137700  WE2XEB FN12 40          0     1    0

-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec  6 18:46:28 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:46:28 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XNS 137.781 kHz
Message-ID: <50C12E54.8060902@sbcglobal.net>

Jay, I see your signal fine, just above MP.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec  6 18:50:01 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:50:01 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XNS 137.781 kHz
Message-ID: <50C12F29.4000302@sbcglobal.net>

Also see a big signal at 137.7775 kHz Must be XKO.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From esmithmail at gmail.com  Thu Dec  6 20:06:47 2012
From: esmithmail at gmail.com (Eric Smith)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 19:06:47 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XNS 137.781 kHz
In-Reply-To: <50C12F29.4000302@sbcglobal.net>
References: <50C12F29.4000302@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <7865024489759124345@unknownmsgid>

Yes, XKO dogbones here in Edmond at what I'm calling 137777.59 Hz.

Just XKO and MP at the moment, but it's early here yet ... still looking ....


Eric KD5UWL




On Dec 6, 2012, at 5:50 PM, Garry Hess <k3siw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Also see a big signal at 137.7775 kHz Must be XKO.
> --
> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Thu Dec  6 20:12:56 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 20:12:56 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR change of freq...
References: <50C12CFF.1090902@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <000a01cdd417$fde4f7b0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Garry

The 'old' black database hasn't displayed LF spots for some time. The 'new' white database does ... 
and your spots are showing up there.

Thanks for the XNS report!

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garry Hess" <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>
To: "lowfer list" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WSPR change of freq...


> Bob, the WSPR Spot Database doesn't seem to be accepting 137.7 kHz. So far my decodes are:
>
> 121206 2332  10 -22 -0.5   0.137700  WE2XEB FN12 40          0 10582    0
> 121206 2334  13 -19  0.0   0.137700  WE2XEB FN12 40          0     1    0
> 121206 2336  11 -22 -0.2   0.137700  WE2XEB FN12 40          0     1    0
> 121206 2338  13 -19 -0.5   0.137700  WE2XEB FN12 40          0     1    0
>
> -- 
> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec  6 20:48:59 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 19:48:59 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR change of freq...
Message-ID: <50C14B0B.8060302@sbcglobal.net>

Thanks Jay for the explanation. I prefer the "old" interface for all its 
flexibility and haven't looked at the "new" spot database for a long 
time. But I did see WE2XEB and connections on the map display so 
obviously the data were getting through somehow.

As of 0145Z on my ARGO waterfall, looks like XNS went QRT a while ago.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Thu Dec  6 20:54:45 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 20:54:45 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR change of freq...
References: <50C14B0B.8060302@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <002501cdd41d$d513b0f0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Garry

I prefer the 'old' database better as well ... and it works fine for MF ... just not LF.

Yes ... XNS QRT to look for DK7FC WSPR (136.000 dial).

Jay


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garry Hess" <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>
To: "lowfer list" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WSPR change of freq...


> Thanks Jay for the explanation. I prefer the "old" interface for all its 
> flexibility and haven't looked at the "new" spot database for a long 
> time. But I did see WE2XEB and connections on the map display so 
> obviously the data were getting through somehow.
> 
> As of 0145Z on my ARGO waterfall, looks like XNS went QRT a while ago.
> -- 
> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Thu Dec  6 21:27:42 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 02:27:42 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR change of freq...
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W2338E7E9B64BFC3C3E9D44AC450@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W2338E7E9B64BFC3C3E9D44AC450@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <92CD810D6DC94CD89F205E290EE12DC5@PatBunnShopPC>

Solid copy on WE2XEB from Upstate SC EM  also    DEX  with WD2XKO is very 
loud  - CW ID is 599 by ear.

Pat Bunn
N4LTA



0200 -27 -0.9   0.137713  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0202 -23 -1.1   0.137713  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0204 -23 -1.1   0.137713  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0206 -25 -1.1   0.137713  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0208 -26 -1.0   0.137713  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0212 -25 -0.9   0.137713  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0214 -24 -1.1   0.137713  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0216 -27 -1.0   0.137713  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0218 -26 -1.1   0.137713  0 WE2XEB FN12 40 


From wa3tts at verizon.net  Thu Dec  6 23:27:46 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:27:46 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XNS & MP & EAR & some Heath HD-1420 mods
Message-ID: <34657F1C0D86485E94EEDE1EFE85D954@MichaelSappPC>

Jay & All: I was testing my xtal heater and other improvements on the Heath HD-1420 and XNS paid a visit.  Looks like about .3Hz drift when the 125000btu furnance cycles on at  about 5 feet away from the radio desk.  My FT-817 IF receiver has the TCXO-9 oscillator upgrade and the PC was running NTP for clock reference.

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/XNS126.jpg

 Also some EAR shots Thur afternoon without the HVAC modulator in operation.  Likely about as good as I can do without locking everything to a LPRO rubidium osc collecting dust on the shelf....

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/EARFT1.jpg

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/earft2.jpg

I spent a few evenings reviewing the MC1496 data sheet, the HD-1490 schematic, and Jack Smith's/Clifton Labs review of the Jackson Press SA602AN VLF converter.  I came to the realization the HD-1420 active mixer has no output matching and a high-impedance output, so I added a 10.25:1 (6.5T:2T) binocular autotransformer on the 3.5~4.0 MHz IF output---still a far cry from the MC1496 output impedance but I was rewarded with another >+10dB of signal level. 

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/HVLFCMOD.jpg   I changed out the original input coupling and emitter bypass .1uf caps for 10uf caps made from 1uf chip caps on the 2n3904 preamp a few months ago....

I use a similar 10.25:1 (6.5T:2T) binocular transformer externally on the HD-1420 LF input but with four end-to-end BN73-03 cores and 1/8" copper tubing as first primary turn and isolated windings for noise suppression. Works reasonably well down to 100kHz (>1dB insertion loss), about 2dB insertion loss at 75 kHz, 6dB at 25 kHz....I have some FT-75 toriod cores to play around with over the winter for input matching experiments....

Good learning experience toying with a so-so converter design.  When I put together a high level mixer converter I will have some context for appreciating the performance upgrade.....

73  Mike wa3tts

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Thu Dec  6 23:45:14 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:45:14 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 137 kHz we2xeb wspr in En90xn
Message-ID: <72365E1CFF9C4FF791B440F0939118F9@MichaelSappPC>

BoB & All:  Some decodes on we2xeb with my NE EWE>HD-1420>FT-817>Acer Aspire 1 Netbook running WSPR. I dont have the converter xtal tweaked to .000 yet...

0324  -2 -1.5   0.137709  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0326  -3 -1.4   0.137709  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0328  -4 -1.2   0.137709  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0330  -6 -1.4   0.137709  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0332  -9 -1.3   0.137709  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0334 -15 -1.4   0.137708  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0336  -8 -1.3   0.137708  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0338  -8 -1.5   0.137708  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0340 -10 -1.3   0.137708  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0342 -13 -1.3   0.137708  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0344 -13 -1.2   0.137708  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0346 -14 -1.5   0.137708  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0348 -17 -1.2   0.137708  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0350 -14 -1.4   0.137708  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0352 -13 -1.3   0.137708  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0354 -18 -1.3   0.137709  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0356 -15 -1.2   0.137709  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0358 -14 -1.2   0.137709  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0400 -12 -1.3   0.137709  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0402 -10 -1.4   0.137709  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0404 -13 -1.1   0.137709  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0406 -14 -1.2   0.137709  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0408 -17 -1.3   0.137709  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0410 -14 -1.4   0.137709  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0412 -18 -1.1   0.137709  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0414  -8 -1.4   0.137709  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0416  -8 -1.3   0.137709  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0418 -12 -1.3   0.137709  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0420  -9 -1.3   0.137709  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0422  -6 -1.3   0.137708  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0424  -2 -1.2   0.137708  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0426  -6 -1.1   0.137708  0 WE2XEB FN12 40
0428 -12 -1.3   0.137708  0 WE2XEB FN12 40

73  Mike wa3tts

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Fri Dec  7 01:44:09 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 01:44:09 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite on 2200 Meters...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W22813F1AB1BC33FF42FE7AC440@phx.gbl>


May still be a bit early yet in the season for DX on 137.  Still had over 500 decodes tonite on 137.7 which seems to be a clear freq.  No QRM complaints just need the skip to lenghten out.
Seven decoders and many of which hung in from 2300 start time till when I  closed.  
Best DX was KU7Z @ 2875 KM from my QTH.  Hoped for some decodes from across the pond but that didn't happen.  
I will stay here on 137.7 to see what shakes out over the weekend-thanks to all for the decodes:
 
KU7Z
KB4OER
VE3IQB
WA3TTS
W3NF
N4LTA
K3SIW
73-Bob WE2XEB NY 		 	   		  

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Fri Dec  7 05:39:23 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 05:39:23 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] lowfer hole
Message-ID: <CABP+t7Z72s1O2dzZh=E4xrhCLUfW1Def=QqwTQOhLgRW62o-DQ@mail.gmail.com>

Monitored 185.3 kHz last night but success was minimal. Got one complete
callsign on SIW, and traces of two other QRSS signals.

73, Doug KB4OER

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Fri Dec  7 06:03:03 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 06:03:03 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XNS & MP & EAR & some Heath HD-1420 mods
In-Reply-To: <34657F1C0D86485E94EEDE1EFE85D954@MichaelSappPC>
References: <34657F1C0D86485E94EEDE1EFE85D954@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7b+yhcxb_8cMaRA1EacM2KxSvtmw089EDkObFPrYJsQag@mail.gmail.com>

Nice captures, Mike.

It's been interesting reading about your continuing improvements to your
Heathkit converter.

Should you ever decide to construct a different converter, there are two
high performance designs that I am aware of.

The first, and most recent, is the AMRAD design, which appeared in the
April, 2002 issue of QST. If you're a member of the ARRL, you can pull up
old articles for free on their web site.

The second design is a modern update of a Doug Demaw/Jay Rusgrove design
that appeared in the June 1977 issue of QST. The 1977 design, which I
constructed back in the late 1980s and is a very good performer, uses a
balanced mixer that you construct with toroid transformers and diodes. The
newer design, "A High-Performance Low Frequency Converter for 1996, by Tim
Brannon, KF5CQ", replaces the hombrew mixer with a Mini-Circuits SBL-3 DBM,
and changes the output frequency from the original 1.7 MHz up to 4 MHz,
which makes for easier frequency dial reading (just ignore the 4). I think
the LWCA web page hosts Tim Brannon's writeup.

Either the AMRAD or the Tim Brannon design, IMO, benefit from using an OCXO
in place of a standard crystal, if you have any interest in receiving QRSS
signals.

I am currently using the AMRAD design, built by Todd Roberts with an OCXO,
and have found it to be an exceptional performer.

73, Doug KB4OER

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:

> Jay & All: I was testing my xtal heater and other improvements on the
> Heath HD-1420 and XNS paid a visit.  Looks like about .3Hz drift when the
> 125000btu furnance cycles on at  about 5 feet away from the radio desk.  My
> FT-817 IF receiver has the TCXO-9 oscillator upgrade and the PC was running
> NTP for clock reference.
>
> http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/XNS126.jpg
>
>  Also some EAR shots Thur afternoon without the HVAC modulator in
> operation.  Likely about as good as I can do without locking everything to
> a LPRO rubidium osc collecting dust on the shelf....
>
> http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/EARFT1.jpg
>
> http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/earft2.jpg
>
> I spent a few evenings reviewing the MC1496 data sheet, the HD-1490
> schematic, and Jack Smith's/Clifton Labs review of the Jackson Press
> SA602AN VLF converter.  I came to the realization the HD-1420 active mixer
> has no output matching and a high-impedance output, so I added a 10.25:1
> (6.5T:2T) binocular autotransformer on the 3.5~4.0 MHz IF output---still a
> far cry from the MC1496 output impedance but I was rewarded with another
> >+10dB of signal level.
>
> http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/HVLFCMOD.jpg   I changed
> out the original input coupling and emitter bypass .1uf caps for 10uf caps
> made from 1uf chip caps on the 2n3904 preamp a few months ago....
>
> I use a similar 10.25:1 (6.5T:2T) binocular transformer externally on the
> HD-1420 LF input but with four end-to-end BN73-03 cores and 1/8" copper
> tubing as first primary turn and isolated windings for noise suppression.
> Works reasonably well down to 100kHz (>1dB insertion loss), about 2dB
> insertion loss at 75 kHz, 6dB at 25 kHz....I have some FT-75 toriod cores
> to play around with over the winter for input matching experiments....
>
> Good learning experience toying with a so-so converter design.  When I put
> together a high level mixer converter I will have some context for
> appreciating the performance upgrade.....
>
> 73  Mike wa3tts
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Fri Dec  7 08:26:45 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:26:45 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XNS & MP & EAR & some Heath HD-1420 mods
In-Reply-To: <34657F1C0D86485E94EEDE1EFE85D954@MichaelSappPC>
References: <34657F1C0D86485E94EEDE1EFE85D954@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <6A66AC92-7CA9-4F2A-B53C-C36488C1DF5D@hurontel.on.ca>

Mike, thanks for the report and captures!  That HVAC modulation has a nice gentle slope, don't you think?

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From dexter.mc at gmail.com  Fri Dec  7 09:53:04 2012
From: dexter.mc at gmail.com (Dexter McIntyre W4DEX)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 09:53:04 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] GFCI trips when transmitting on 2200M
Message-ID: <50C202D0.6010609@gmail.com>

My AC power meter and primary AC panel box is located less than ten feet 
from my LF coil and vertical wire.  I've never had a problem with the 
ground fault breakers in that box tripping when transmitting on 137 
kHz.  That is until I placed some Christmas lights a bit over one 
hundred feet from the other end of the house from where the panel box is 
located.  The lights are powered with 125 feet of cable laying on the 
ground.  The RF return current this cable is carrying measures just a 
few milliamps, apparently just enough to occasionally trip the breaker.  
Attaching multiple clamp on chokes around the cable made on difference.  
The GFCI was installed 25 years ago.  I just read that newer ones are 
much better at preventing false tripping due to RF.  I could just 
replace the breaker but being a tight wad I had rather find a cure for 
this temporary problem rather than to replace a working breaker. 

Any thoughts about what to try next?

Dex

Hummm......I may try an isolation transformer.  The lights are LED and 
operate at only 16 watts for 250 C9 size bulbs.

From pbunn at matrixei.com  Fri Dec  7 10:05:07 2012
From: pbunn at matrixei.com (pbunn)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 15:05:07 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] GFCI trips when transmitting on 2200M
In-Reply-To: <50C202D0.6010609@gmail.com>
References: <50C202D0.6010609@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003D2333D4D5E04A8FF231DFDCFA185A1B44A1D2@BLUPRD0811MB424.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>

Dex, 

The newer GFIs are better but I'd not replace the breaker, I'd try to fix the problem. The GFI works by looking at the sum of the "black wire current, and the "white wire current" - Since they are in opposite directions the sum should always be zero unless there is a leakage that returns via some other ground.  Any error current over a mA or so will trip the breaker.

The "white wire" or grounded conductor as defined by the NEC should never be tied to ground at any point except the service panels bond (a single point ground)

Cheap Christmas lights are notorious for having problems and an isolation problem might do the trick. The driver circuit may be the culprit. I have some electronic ballasts in my garage lights that cause problems with my shop GFI.

Pat
N4LTA

-----Original Message-----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dexter McIntyre W4DEX
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 9:53 AM
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands
Subject: [Lowfer] GFCI trips when transmitting on 2200M

My AC power meter and primary AC panel box is located less than ten feet from my LF coil and vertical wire.  I've never had a problem with the ground fault breakers in that box tripping when transmitting on 137 kHz.  That is until I placed some Christmas lights a bit over one hundred feet from the other end of the house from where the panel box is located.  The lights are powered with 125 feet of cable laying on the ground.  The RF return current this cable is carrying measures just a few milliamps, apparently just enough to occasionally trip the breaker.  
Attaching multiple clamp on chokes around the cable made on difference.  
The GFCI was installed 25 years ago.  I just read that newer ones are much better at preventing false tripping due to RF.  I could just replace the breaker but being a tight wad I had rather find a cure for this temporary problem rather than to replace a working breaker. 

Any thoughts about what to try next?

Dex

Hummm......I may try an isolation transformer.  The lights are LED and operate at only 16 watts for 250 C9 size bulbs.
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From dexter.mc at gmail.com  Fri Dec  7 10:15:47 2012
From: dexter.mc at gmail.com (Dexter McIntyre W4DEX)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 10:15:47 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XNS & MP & EAR & some Heath HD-1420 mods
In-Reply-To: <34657F1C0D86485E94EEDE1EFE85D954@MichaelSappPC>
References: <34657F1C0D86485E94EEDE1EFE85D954@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <50C20823.2090908@gmail.com>

Mike,

I've had good results receiving with a FT897 on 2200M with no 
converter.  I have an original 817 I picked up cheap because the power 
amp was fried but I've not tired it on LF.  I think the two radios have 
the same basic receiver and exciter design.  I really lucked out in 
buying the 817 because I just wanted it for a MW IF and needed only 10 
mw to drive the xverters.  I just plucked out the little final amp 
device and tacked a capacitor across the pads.  I was surprisingly 
pleased to measured 10 mw output.

Nice to see the old Heath converter being used though.  Maybe I will 
power up my old Palomar Engineering converter to see if it still plays.

Dex

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Fri Dec  7 13:10:47 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 12:10:47 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] lowfer hole
Message-ID: <50C23127.5090201@sbcglobal.net>

Doug, thanks for the report on lowfer SIW. Like you, I didn't find 
conditions very good last night. When I looked at the watering hole I 
didn't notice anything other than my local beacon. 518 kHz Navtex 
signals were good to the NE with decodes from Greenland stations I, and 
M in area 4. Also, Bermuda and Puerto Rico came in fine. But only a 
couple west coast stations decoded and they were weak, and Kodiak wasn't 
even detectable.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Fri Dec  7 16:30:05 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 16:30:05 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Heath HD-1420 mods
Message-ID: <98787D884F784B8693BF41AC821A517C@MichaelSappPC>

Doug, Dex, John & All: Thanks for the comments on the HD-1420 and ARGO caputres. 

I have the AMRAD converter information but have not looked at the W1VD converter design. Basically I have a couple of +17dBm DBMs here and a 10MHz LPRO which should work well with a single or push-pull 2N5109 preamp and suitable RF and LO filters---all in good time. I had a Heath VLF converter back in the 1980s for awhile, so it was a trip down memory lane with some added ham experience to re-visit the converter and really understand it's design.  Once I got the RF BCB levels under control with an input LPF and figured out the I/O matching issues the unit works OK.  

Dex, the FT-817 works OK in the 495~505 range but the sensitivity starts to fall off at 470~475 kHz. The HD-1420 is opposite, it had less sensitivity at 495 but outperformed the FT-817 at 470~475 kHz.  To remedy that situation I pulled the 680pf caps on the LPF internal to the HD-1420 and replaced them with 560pf caps. A quick check on the AM band showed a bit more signal strength on AM stations than I wanted at the bottom of the band, so I tacked in an additional 47pf for about 610pf and that seemed to be a reasonable compromise. 

 Some online reading on the HD-1420 others have suggested rewiring the filter in front of the preamp---that would seem a logical option---but I built up the VE3BPO 533 kHz LPF design that W7ZOI had a hand in and that works well in front of the HD-1420.  I did have to add a 1020kHz shunt trap 'cuz the KDKA 50KW station is 4.5 miles to the east.....With the 1020kHz shunt trap my intermod went away, although I could likely use one more shunt trap around 700 kHz or so to lower the total rx RF input power to the converter. I ended up setting it at about 1060 to have some nulling on a strong 1080 station as well.

 On my last visit to a local TV engineer friend we put the VE7BPO filter with the 1020kHz shunt trap on his network analyzer and the results are shown below....

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/SCRN13.jpg

This one is the rolloff point at 1dB per div...

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/SCRN14.jpg


 I built up one of those W1VD 505~515 preselector filters for the 475~495 range and that was more than what I needed for handling the local RF environment here---so it's living at WF2XXQs QTH to help him with the Miami BC market overload.  That was a fun build, tho. Really nice design.  I ended up with an extra two turns on each toriod (149uh vs 139uh)  to pull Jay's preselector design down into the 475~495 range.  It's a bit tight at 475 tho. If I build another one I'll likely add another turn on each toriod.....

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/IMG_2590.jpg

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/IMG_2565.jpg

And a few plots....

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/475.jpg

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/495.jpg

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/505.jpg

Well, I best get myself off to work....Thanks all for listening.....it will be interesting to see if the HD-1420 hears better at 495 kHz this weekend with the internal filter adjustment.

73  Mike wa3tts

From pbunn at patbunn.com  Fri Dec  7 17:03:25 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 22:03:25 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT WSPR
In-Reply-To: <003D2333D4D5E04A8FF231DFDCFA185A1B44A1D2@BLUPRD0811MB424.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
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I am transmitting a VERY low power WSPR signal tonight. About 50 mW to the 
antenna. That is the output from the phasing exciter and the amp isn't 
finished. Don't expect much but why not.

Pat
WG2XCT 


From kb4oer at gmail.com  Fri Dec  7 17:15:27 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 17:15:27 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Low frequency receivers and upconverters
Message-ID: <CABP+t7aTsSecG+b9LzYw5ehryS3FCCt6rBLP6pGem1eqX=smSQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:

> Doug, Dex, John & All: Thanks for the comments on the HD-1420 and ARGO
> caputres.
>
> I have the AMRAD converter information but have not looked at the W1VD
> converter design. Basically I have a couple of +17dBm DBMs here and a 10MHz
> LPRO which should work well with a single or push-pull 2N5109 preamp and
> suitable RF and LO filters---all in good time.



>
> 73  Mike wa3tts
>
>
>


Hey Mike. I typed all this out, then decided not to send it, then decided
"what the hell"?



Regarding low frequency upconverters, I have yet to find an analog (meaning
a non software defined) receiver with VLF & LF performance that I am
completely satisfied with out-of-the-box, meaning without use of an
upconverter. To be fair, I have never owned a high grade military or
commercial communications receiver, which typically cost several thousands
of dollars new.
Some of the receivers I have owned, and used on LF, however, include a
Yaesu FT-747, Kenwood TS-850, AOR 7030+, and Icom R-75 (I'm probably
forgetting a couple more). Not a single one of these receivers were
completely satisfactory as VLF/LF receivers (10-500 kHz).
The Kenwood TS-850 boasted a very good receiver, and with a simple mod
could receive down very low in frequency (I forget how low), and, while it
had a digital display, and perhaps even 1 Hz tuning steps (I forget), the
display could only read out the nearest 10 Hz.
The AOR 7030+ was an exceptionally good LF receiver (down to 20 kHz or so),
saddled with the most unintuitive user interface I have ever had the
displeasure of using. Sadly, it too could only display to the nearest 10
Hz, though the tuning steps could go down to 2.7 Hz. Strange? Yes.
The Icom R-75 has several features that are helpful for VLF/LF receiving.
The first it a 1 Hz frequency display. Secondly, it has decent sensitivity
down to 30 kHz, which, IIRC, is as low as it will allow you to tune.
Thirdly, it has "good" frequency stability with the OCXO option. "Good"
being good enough for QRSS. Unfortunately, it has a lot of spurs below 500
kHz, as was pointed out in a recent review by John Reed, KA5QEP, in our
LWCA newsletter, the Lowdown.
A quality upconverter, on the other hand, can turn an exceptional HF
receiver (but poor VLF/LF receiver) into an exceptional VLF/LF receiver.
IMO, there are many very good quality analog or semi-analog HF receivers on
the market today, and I am including amateur radio transceivers in this
category. The Elecraft K3, and several offerings from Icom, Kenwood, Yaesu,
and Ten-Tec come to mind. Any of these contest quality transceivers, paired
with a high performance upconverter, should be extremely good performers on
VLF/LF.
With all that said, I believe the future will belong to SDRs (software
defined receivers). My experience so far, on VLF/LF with the Winradio
Excalibur Pro, is amazing. It can "hear" anything that my AMRAD upconverter
+ R-75 can. Frequency display is to the nearest 1 Hz. Drift is negligible.
VLF/LF sensitivity is more than adequate.

Your mileage may vary.

Doug KB4OER

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Fri Dec  7 17:16:01 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 17:16:01 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT WSPR
In-Reply-To: <F1D6561442F94DB0A1BECDE547DB2B6D@PatBunnShopPC>
References: <50C202D0.6010609@gmail.com>
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Frequency?

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 5:03 PM, <pbunn at patbunn.com> wrote:

>
>
> I am transmitting a VERY low power WSPR signal tonight. About 50 mW to the
> antenna. That is the output from the phasing exciter and the amp isn't
> finished. Don't expect much but why not.
>
> Pat
> WG2XCT
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Fri Dec  7 17:20:16 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 17:20:16 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR again tonite...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W4126160ED4B3244BD1B665AC440@phx.gbl>



WE2XEB will continue WSPR on 136.2 Dial freq and 137.7 Tx freq-any decodes appreciated-Bob 		 	   		  

From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Fri Dec  7 18:01:30 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 23:01:30 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - NEW WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. TXing every night from sunset until sunrise (weather
 permitting) at 475.7 KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50C0C42B.3030202@bellsouth.net>
References: <50C0C42B.3030202@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50C2754A.2040905@bellsouth.net>




*Dial Frequency 474.2 KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/










From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Fri Dec  7 18:15:59 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:15:59 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MP Loop antenna reconfigured
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP716BDE81ADAC43EE5864E8E9440@phx.gbl>

Just finished installing a second vertical component to the main loop.  Freq 137780.48 ish
At each side of the feedpoint ( and tuning box ) I added one vertical wire.  
One is 80 feet, and the other is 90 feet.
Another potato has been planted in the neighbours garden for Spring.
I am attaching a small picture which will give you'all an idea of the new configuration.

Interesting that the tuning changed very little - probably on 200 pF. Antenna current 
remain almost unchanged, as you might expect.

However, I hope the radiation might be enhanced by the increased wire in the air.

Thanks for listening.
73
Mitch   " M P  " 137780.48    EN92ix

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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  7 18:33:42 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 15:33:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] MP Loop antenna reconfigured
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Mitch:

Thanks for the pictorial of the loop.. I have been trying to 
mentally picture what you were doing, and the diagram cleared
it up for me.. 

I do have a couple of questions if you can take the time to
address them..

#1 How high above ground is the bottom side of your loop ??

#2 Do you have a Radial Field - of any sort - underneath, or
leading out from under the loop ?? And if so; will you describe
how you have the Radial Field laid out on the ground ??

Thanks OM for your time and reply to the list, as I'm sure there
are others who will be interested in your description..

73, and Merry Christmas to you and your family from:

Andy - KU4XR - Friendsville, TN.


--- On Fri, 12/7/12, Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> From: Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: [Lowfer] MP Loop antenna reconfigured
> To: "& UK) and MedFer bands Discussion of the Lowfer (US European" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Friday, December 7, 2012, 6:15 PM
> Just finished installing a second
> vertical component to the main loop.? Freq 137780.48
> ish
> At each side of the feedpoint ( and tuning box ) I added one
> vertical wire.? 
> One is 80 feet, and the other is 90 feet.
> Another potato has been planted in the neighbours garden for
> Spring.
> I am attaching a small picture which will give you'all an
> idea of the new configuration.
> 
> Interesting that the tuning changed very little - probably
> on 200 pF. Antenna current 
> remain almost unchanged, as you might expect.
> 
> However, I hope the radiation might be enhanced by the
> increased wire in the air.
> 
> Thanks for listening.
> 73
> Mitch???" M P? " 137780.48? ?
> EN92ix
> 
> 
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From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Fri Dec  7 18:37:57 2012
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 23:37:57 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT WSPR
In-Reply-To: <F1D6561442F94DB0A1BECDE547DB2B6D@PatBunnShopPC>
References: <50C202D0.6010609@gmail.com>
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you gotta say freq and other info
Lloyd W3NF

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:03 PM, <pbunn at patbunn.com> wrote:

>
>
> I am transmitting a VERY low power WSPR signal tonight. About 50 mW to the
> antenna. That is the output from the phasing exciter and the amp isn't
> finished. Don't expect much but why not.
>
> Pat
> WG2XCT
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Fri Dec  7 18:39:05 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:39:05 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR again tonite...
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Decoded. :-)

73 de KB4OER

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Bob Raide <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> WE2XEB will continue WSPR on 136.2 Dial freq and 137.7 Tx freq-any decodes
> appreciated-Bob
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Fri Dec  7 18:41:35 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:41:35 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT WSPR
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Drat you, Lloyd. Didn't I just say that? :-)

73 de KB4OER

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:37 PM, lloyd chastant <lloydc6 at gmail.com> wrote:

> you gotta say freq and other info
> Lloyd W3NF
>
> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:03 PM, <pbunn at patbunn.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I am transmitting a VERY low power WSPR signal tonight. About 50 mW to
> the
> > antenna. That is the output from the phasing exciter and the amp isn't
> > finished. Don't expect much but why not.
> >
> > Pat
> > WG2XCT
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From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Fri Dec  7 18:44:17 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 23:44:17 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ is not transmitting until tomorrow. Receiving only
	on 474.2KHZ
Message-ID: <50C27F51.5020308@bellsouth.net>

73

Juan /K4LCD - WF2XXQ

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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Fri Dec  7 19:01:48 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 19:01:48 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MP Loop antenna reconfigured
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Hi Andy:
I thought the picture would help....thanks for the comment.
Only 6-8 feet above ground.
No radials for the loop of course - they really are not required.... it's the 
reason that I have not installed a vertical system - but now that I have the
vertical pieces up - I might re-consider.
As you can guess - the vertical pieces go up over trees...so I am
surrounded ( within 50 feet in all directions )  by trees - which I
know will appear as RF sponges - particularly in the Spring-Summer
time.
Then I  really would require the radials.

by the way - thanks for all the captures. They certainly help in knowing that all
is well and no significant changes have occurred. A great service for all.

73 and a very happy and merry Christmas to you as well.
Mitch
On 2012-12-07, at 6:33 PM, Andy - KU4XR wrote:

> Mitch:
> 
> Thanks for the pictorial of the loop.. I have been trying to 
> mentally picture what you were doing, and the diagram cleared
> it up for me.. 
> 
> I do have a couple of questions if you can take the time to
> address them..
> 
> #1 How high above ground is the bottom side of your loop ??
> 
> #2 Do you have a Radial Field - of any sort - underneath, or
> leading out from under the loop ?? And if so; will you describe
> how you have the Radial Field laid out on the ground ??
> 
> Thanks OM for your time and reply to the list, as I'm sure there
> are others who will be interested in your description..
> 
> 73, and Merry Christmas to you and your family from:
> 
> Andy - KU4XR - Friendsville, TN.
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 12/7/12, Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
>> From: Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>
>> Subject: [Lowfer] MP Loop antenna reconfigured
>> To: "& UK) and MedFer bands Discussion of the Lowfer (US European" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>> Date: Friday, December 7, 2012, 6:15 PM
>> Just finished installing a second
>> vertical component to the main loop.  Freq 137780.48
>> ish
>> At each side of the feedpoint ( and tuning box ) I added one
>> vertical wire.  
>> One is 80 feet, and the other is 90 feet.
>> Another potato has been planted in the neighbours garden for
>> Spring.
>> I am attaching a small picture which will give you'all an
>> idea of the new configuration.
>> 
>> Interesting that the tuning changed very little - probably
>> on 200 pF. Antenna current 
>> remain almost unchanged, as you might expect.
>> 
>> However, I hope the radiation might be enhanced by the
>> increased wire in the air.
>> 
>> Thanks for listening.
>> 73
>> Mitch   " M P  " 137780.48   
>> EN92ix
>> 
>> 
>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>> 
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From hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com  Fri Dec  7 19:02:11 2012
From: hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com (Laurence KL1 X)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 15:02:11 -0900
Subject: [Lowfer] MP Loop antenna reconfigured
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Good questions for Mitch Andy - Ive been asking questions on radials and screening to John TAG and Jay and John found an old paper that says (empirically) that a tuned screen under the loop should reduce "(dilectric ground) losses by quite a few dBs , but even a screen of say 1.5m width by just the length of the lower loop will reduce losses even if it isnt tuned. There is some discussion on "How" you would tune it and in reality will it help in bespoke geographic and ground conditions ~ Im, before the heavy snows come (we still dont have any here in Alaska would you believe) Im going to lay out some 200 ft long by 6ft wide welded mesh fencing pinned to the ground and see if it makes any difference - empirally I think John tried it with a small sized screen and saw no difference -  Ill have a play in any case, and see what currents are flowing -  and at the same time looking to increase the size of the loop without adding the same additive ground losses and getting no where :-)   If I dont get anywhere Ill probably change the config into a Inv L and see if a  base loaded top cap does better at these lower temps without the Tree sizzle hopefully - I have a well casing and an estabilished screen close by I can tie into -   Laurence KL 1 X  WE2 XPQ
 > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 15:33:42 -0800
> From: ku4xr at yahoo.com
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] MP Loop antenna reconfigured
> 
> Mitch:
> 
> Thanks for the pictorial of the loop.. I have been trying to 
> mentally picture what you were doing, and the diagram cleared
> it up for me.. 
> 
> I do have a couple of questions if you can take the time to
> address them..
> 
> #1 How high above ground is the bottom side of your loop ??
> 
> #2 Do you have a Radial Field - of any sort - underneath, or
> leading out from under the loop ?? And if so; will you describe
> how you have the Radial Field laid out on the ground ??
> 
> Thanks OM for your time and reply to the list, as I'm sure there
> are others who will be interested in your description..
> 
> 73, and Merry Christmas to you and your family from:
> 
> Andy - KU4XR - Friendsville, TN.
> .htm
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  7 19:25:16 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:25:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] MP Loop antenna reconfigured
In-Reply-To: <BLU153-W3267DD38C81CB815820107CF4B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1354926316.79907.YahooMailClassic@web125301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

>There is some discussion on "How" you would tune it
> and in reality will it help in bespoke geographic and ground
> conditions 

The first thought that popped into my head was a variometer in 
series with the radials with the vari. between the radials, and
the common ground point... THEN.. I thought; maybe another way,
would be to place the variometer " across " the radial field which
would make for a Tunable LC circuit if there is a way to make the
radials " look like " a capacitor to the variometer, and not a
" dead short " .... Strictly from a laymans standpoint, and with
no experience in doing such.. Could a capacitor be placed in series
with the variometer, and connected the the radials in some fashion
as to allow for " tuning " the radial system to resonance ?? 
( if there is such a thing at LF for a short Radial system )...

Andy - KU4XR



--- On Fri, 12/7/12, Laurence KL1 X <hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Good questions for Mitch Andy - Ive been asking questions on
> radials and screening to John TAG and Jay and John found an
> old paper that says (empirically) that a tuned screen under
> the loop should reduce "(dilectric ground) losses by quite a
> few dBs , but even a screen of say 1.5m width by just the
> length of the lower loop will reduce losses even if it isnt
> tuned. There is some discussion on "How" you would tune it
> and in reality will it help in bespoke geographic and ground
> conditions ~ Im, before the heavy snows come (we still dont
> have any here in Alaska would you believe) Im going to lay
> out some 200 ft long by 6ft wide welded mesh fencing pinned
> to the ground and see if it makes any difference - empirally
> I think John tried it with a small sized screen and saw no
> difference -? Ill have a play in any case, and see what
> currents are flowing -? and at the same time looking to
> increase the size of the loop without adding the same
> additive ground losses and getting no where :
>  -)???If I dont get anywhere Ill probably
> change the config into a Inv L and see if a? base
> loaded top cap does better at these lower temps without the
> Tree sizzle hopefully - I have a well casing and an
> estabilished screen close by I can tie into
> -???Laurence KL 1 X? WE2 XPQ
>  > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 15:33:42 -0800
> > From: ku4xr at yahoo.com
> > To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Lowfer] MP Loop antenna reconfigured
> > 
> > Mitch:
> > 
> > Thanks for the pictorial of the loop.. I have been
> trying to 
> > mentally picture what you were doing, and the diagram
> cleared
> > it up for me.. 
> > 
> > I do have a couple of questions if you can take the
> time to
> > address them..
> > 
> > #1 How high above ground is the bottom side of your
> loop ??
> > 
> > #2 Do you have a Radial Field - of any sort -
> underneath, or
> > leading out from under the loop ?? And if so; will you
> describe
> > how you have the Radial Field laid out on the ground
> ??
> > 
> > Thanks OM for your time and reply to the list, as I'm
> sure there
> > are others who will be interested in your
> description..
> > 
> > 73, and Merry Christmas to you and your family from:
> > 
> > Andy - KU4XR - Friendsville, TN.
> > .htm
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Fri Dec  7 21:06:29 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:06:29 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] kb4eor & SDR comparisons
Message-ID: <715DD2C94CE446428FF6E64F21BDB30B@MichaelSappPC>

Doug & All:

>With all that said, I believe the future will belong to SDRs (software
>defined receivers). My experience so far, on VLF/LF with the Winradio
>Excalibur Pro, is amazing. It can "hear" anything that my AMRAD upconverter
>+ R-75 can. Frequency display is to the nearest 1 Hz. Drift is negligible.
>VLF/LF sensitivity is more than adequate    Yes, I read all your comparison tests a few months back on SDR vs analog with interest.I have been keeping an eye on the Genesis G11 SDR kit, but that is down the road aways....http://www.genesisradio.com.au/Aside from the whole SDR thing, the FPGA technology is quite impressive....I'm hearing some NDBs I have not heard B4 above 400 kHz this evening, so I may have at least partially resolvedthe upper frequency roll off issue I had in the HD-1420.

From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Fri Dec  7 21:31:12 2012
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:31:12 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] GFCI trips when transmitting on 2200M
References: <50C202D0.6010609@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01fb01cdd4ed$c27975d0$6ba1f604@mainframe>

: Any thoughts about what to try next?

Make a choke out of a few wraps of cord where it plugs into your outlet, see 
what happens.

Kurt


From k2ors at verizon.net  Fri Dec  7 22:04:16 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 22:04:16 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 CW WD2XGJ QRSS 6 136.745
In-Reply-To: <D24FB1D8FA45438B815EF284A8F526F2@PATSDELL>
References: <D24FB1D8FA45438B815EF284A8F526F2@PATSDELL>
Message-ID: <50C2AE30.3030207@verizon.net>

WE2XGR/1 506.3 CW beacon
WD2XGJ 136.745 QRSS 6

Reports welcome!

73 K2ORS




From pbunn at patbunn.com  Fri Dec  7 22:34:15 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 03:34:15 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT WSPR
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7aVLa4sUH0w+W2tnO8m87aPi-Azypz969eYBRq7_TjwaQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <50C202D0.6010609@gmail.com><003D2333D4D5E04A8FF231DFDCFA185A1B44A1D2@BLUPRD0811MB424.namprd08.prod.outlook.com><F1D6561442F94DB0A1BECDE547DB2B6D@PatBunnShopPC><CAE89MiRr25xrw+wmLx+5c7YR83+Ntio1i2dUWDJHWmV+0=wGFw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABP+t7aVLa4sUH0w+W2tnO8m87aPi-Azypz969eYBRq7_TjwaQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9049074FF26E44C7B331517BA89CF84A@PatBunnShopPC>

Sorry,

Plans changed due to a technical problem and a unexpected visitor. Maybe 
tomarrow night.
Pat
WG2XCT

-----Original Message----- 
From: Douglas D. Williams
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 11:41 PM
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp,UK) and MedFer bands
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WG2XCT WSPR

Drat you, Lloyd. Didn't I just say that? :-)

73 de KB4OER

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:37 PM, lloyd chastant <lloydc6 at gmail.com> wrote:

> you gotta say freq and other info
> Lloyd W3NF
>
> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:03 PM, <pbunn at patbunn.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I am transmitting a VERY low power WSPR signal tonight. About 50 mW to
> the
> > antenna. That is the output from the phasing exciter and the amp isn't
> > finished. Don't expect much but why not.
> >
> > Pat
> > WG2XCT
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Fri Dec  7 23:34:58 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 23:34:58 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ QRT
Message-ID: <50C2C372.4040507@verizon.net>

RF getting into keyer messing up the beacon message.

73 Warren

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sat Dec  8 01:32:50 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 01:32:50 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite-results...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W4968DB955F18DAE596F8D8AC4B0@phx.gbl>



Couple of the regulars hung in there for 7+ plus hours tonite laying out the decodes.  No real DX but almost four hundred decodes from the following;
KC0BMF
KB4OER
W3NF
WA3TTS
K3SIW
I will be back tomorrow for another shot at it on 137.7-thanks all and 73, Bob WE2XEB NY... 		 	   		  

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec  8 06:04:09 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 05:04:09 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer watering hole
Message-ID: <50C31EA9.4060102@sbcglobal.net>

Three stations were in and out over night around 185.3 kHz: SJ, WMS, and 
TAG (plus an unwanted spurious that began around 0500Z). At times each 
of the signals was good, but QSB or noise floor rises made catching 
entire calls difficult. WMS was best as expected since it is the 
closest. Noticed periods of slight upward drift by SJ but they didn't 
persist.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Dec  8 07:27:28 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 07:27:28 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SIW in CT
Message-ID: <002501cdd53f$637acaa0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Still not rip roaring signal levels from SIW this season but respectable nonetheless. Green trace on 
the right shows peak hold 600 second history. SIW approaching 15 dB s/n. Spurious from SW also 
clearly visible ...

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Dec  8 07:36:49 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 07:36:49 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SIW in CT
References: <002501cdd53f$637acaa0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <001101cdd540$b1d0b240$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Should be spurious from SJ ...

Jay

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 7:27 AM
Subject: [Lowfer] SIW in CT


> Still not rip roaring signal levels from SIW this season but respectable nonetheless. Green trace 
> on
> the right shows peak hold 600 second history. SIW approaching 15 dB s/n. Spurious from SW also
> clearly visible ...
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>


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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec  8 07:51:36 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 06:51:36 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] SIW in CT
Message-ID: <50C337D8.4030704@sbcglobal.net>

Jay, thanks for the report on lowfer SIW. Hopefully conditions will 
improve as real winter hits. Interesting that you have a spurious from 
SJ, which I'm sure is quite strong on the fundamental. Here I see a 
wobbly version of SIW around 185.305 kHz when its fundamental is 185.185 
kHz. No idea where that's coming from but figure it's generated by my 
receiver, not the TX. I am running a hifer at 13.5 MHz, a 24 GHz beacon, 
and miscellaneous other frequency sources in the shack so there are 
plenty of harmonics and mixing opportunities.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sat Dec  8 07:57:11 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 07:57:11 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite-results...
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W4968DB955F18DAE596F8D8AC4B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W4968DB955F18DAE596F8D8AC4B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7ZnKZDUDFKU0no5-adqQiaWDb379psLaa6xtuWW9pOceA@mail.gmail.com>

I was also trying for a decode on Stefan DK7FC, who I noticed was getting a
lot of decodes in Europe, but conditions weren't quite good enough.

-Doug KB4OER

On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 1:32 AM, Bob Raide <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Couple of the regulars hung in there for 7+ plus hours tonite laying out
> the decodes.  No real DX but almost four hundred decodes from the following;
> KC0BMF
> KB4OER
> W3NF
> WA3TTS
> K3SIW
> I will be back tomorrow for another shot at it on 137.7-thanks all and 73,
> Bob WE2XEB NY...
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sat Dec  8 07:59:39 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 07:59:39 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer watering hole
In-Reply-To: <50C31EA9.4060102@sbcglobal.net>
References: <50C31EA9.4060102@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7ZGrzS4GqM5xv+kHbt_7Y3oMyGyVVvf7eHwvCVLGoQ1hg@mail.gmail.com>

I managed a "3 fer" in the watering hole last night.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33457409/3FER185300Hz.jpg


73, Doug KB4OER

On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Garry Hess <k3siw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Three stations were in and out over night around 185.3 kHz: SJ, WMS, and
> TAG (plus an unwanted spurious that began around 0500Z). At times each of
> the signals was good, but QSB or noise floor rises made catching entire
> calls difficult. WMS was best as expected since it is the closest. Noticed
> periods of slight upward drift by SJ but they didn't persist.
> --
> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
>
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sat Dec  8 08:07:33 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 08:07:33 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] kb4eor & SDR comparisons
In-Reply-To: <715DD2C94CE446428FF6E64F21BDB30B@MichaelSappPC>
References: <715DD2C94CE446428FF6E64F21BDB30B@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7bxkRQF-rrjY82W1HaTEAJLyiN2RvVS6gbfwhbWqca+cA@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, I have my eye on that Genesis kit also.

Would make a good transceiver for either 500 kHz or 137 kHz when and if we
ever get an amateur allocation on either band.

73, Doug KB4OER

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:

> Doug & All:
>
> >With all that said, I believe the future will belong to SDRs (software
> >defined receivers). My experience so far, on VLF/LF with the Winradio
> >Excalibur Pro, is amazing. It can "hear" anything that my AMRAD
> upconverter
> >+ R-75 can. Frequency display is to the nearest 1 Hz. Drift is negligible.
> >VLF/LF sensitivity is more than adequate    Yes, I read all your
> comparison tests a few months back on SDR vs analog with interest.I have
> been keeping an eye on the Genesis G11 SDR kit, but that is down the road
> aways....http://www.genesisradio.com.au/Aside from the whole SDR thing,
> the FPGA technology is quite impressive....I'm hearing some NDBs I have not
> heard B4 above 400 kHz this evening, so I may have at least partially
> resolvedthe upper frequency roll off issue I had in the HD-1420.
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Dec  8 08:25:17 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 08:25:17 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MP Loop antenna reconfigured
References: <BLU0-SMTP716BDE81ADAC43EE5864E8E9440@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <005601cdd547$7703bb60$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Mitch

Additional wire might be better off used to 'fatten up' the loop conductor, lowering R and 
increasing loop current.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitch Powell" <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>
To: "&amp; UK) and MedFer bands Discussion of the Lowfer (US European" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 6:15 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] MP Loop antenna reconfigured


Just finished installing a second vertical component to the main loop.  Freq 137780.48 ish
At each side of the feedpoint ( and tuning box ) I added one vertical wire.
One is 80 feet, and the other is 90 feet.
Another potato has been planted in the neighbours garden for Spring.
I am attaching a small picture which will give you'all an idea of the new configuration.

Interesting that the tuning changed very little - probably on 200 pF. Antenna current
remain almost unchanged, as you might expect.

However, I hope the radiation might be enhanced by the increased wire in the air.

Thanks for listening.
73
Mitch   " M P  " 137780.48    EN92ix




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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sat Dec  8 08:28:19 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 08:28:19 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ARRL books
Message-ID: <CABP+t7bGZU8muMMf5Rb2wg0odXLqcrBt+6KHtJU+-DNcVSgj9Q@mail.gmail.com>

ARRL is having a book sale and giving away a free calendar for purchases
for a limited time.

My most recent copy of the ARRL Handbook is 1995 (lol).

Thinking of buying the new one. Any of you have it? If so, what is your
opinion?

Any other good ARRL books I should consider while the sale is going on?

Do they have any LF specific books?

73, Doug KB4OER

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Dec  8 09:02:57 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 09:02:57 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer watering hole (185.300 kHz) operations ...
Message-ID: <000e01cdd54c$b9dad6d0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

For discussion ...

Problem: Receiving stations in close proximity to transmitting stations suffer overload and are 
unable to effectively look for DX stations in the watering hole.

Possible solution: Adopt WSPR style duty cycle operations and transmit every other, or every third, 
ID sequence leaving 'holes' for close proximity stations to copy the DX stations. 'Clear channel' 
stations (off on their own frequency) can still run 100% duty cycle if they choose.

Thoughts?

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2







From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Fri Dec  7 08:40:40 2012
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 13:40:40 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XNS 137.781 kHz
In-Reply-To: <003501cdd409$ca416550$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <003501cdd409$ca416550$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <CAE89MiRj6=6hQQ4xrfS3M2z2VuYoqxWoXuoOyPCCabC-qM_Ejg@mail.gmail.com>

My copy last nite.not sure where the last dot on xns went??
Lloyd W3NF

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 11:31 PM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> WD2XNS will be cooking spiders for the next couple hours on 137.781.
> Reports appreciated.
>
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec  8 10:15:35 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 09:15:35 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer watering hole (185.300 kHz) operation
Message-ID: <50C35997.3070603@sbcglobal.net>

Jay, that's the reason I moved SIW to 185.185 kHz every other day. I 
switch between separate beacon hardware via a timer that directs the 
battery voltage 
(http://www.prosecurityproducts.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/1194630130_altronix_al-pt724_timer_instructions.pdf; 
those literate in programming PIC uPs can roll their own). My OCXOs 
settle down in frequency in just a couple of minutes so to conserve 
battery drain I only run one at a time.

With such a timer, one could easily program a beacon to send QRSS say on 
even hours, and drop during odd hours. That's definitely long enough to 
allow down-time reception of DX by nearby listeners, even if the DX is 
sending QRSS60.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From k2ors at verizon.net  Sat Dec  8 10:24:28 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 10:24:28 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ARRL books
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7bGZU8muMMf5Rb2wg0odXLqcrBt+6KHtJU+-DNcVSgj9Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABP+t7bGZU8muMMf5Rb2wg0odXLqcrBt+6KHtJU+-DNcVSgj9Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50C35BAC.2050509@verizon.net>

Hi Doug,

      ON4UN's "Low Band DXing" mainly concerned w/ 160 meters is a good 
book, lots of good information on rx and tx antennas. The ARRL has RSGB 
books, I like "Radio Nature" by Renato Romero which is about whistlers 
tweeks, etc. Another good RSGB book is "LF Today" by Mike Dennison.

73 Warren




On 12/8/2012 8:28 AM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
> ARRL is having a book sale and giving away a free calendar for purchases
> for a limited time.
>
> My most recent copy of the ARRL Handbook is 1995 (lol).
>
> Thinking of buying the new one. Any of you have it? If so, what is your
> opinion?
>
> Any other good ARRL books I should consider while the sale is going on?
>
> Do they have any LF specific books?
>
> 73, Doug KB4OER
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sat Dec  8 11:15:15 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 11:15:15 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR on for a bit of daytime groundwave...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W128445CCB81F617AA836FBAC4B0@phx.gbl>



WE2XEB on for a couple hours for some testing-137.7/136.2 dial-decodes appreciated-Bob 		 	   		  

From k2ors at verizon.net  Sat Dec  8 11:32:39 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (K2ORS)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 11:32:39 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 daytime
Message-ID: <6356DD4BD844498490884E4A71CBFD4B@warren7451549c>

WD2XGJ QRSS 6 136.745 for mid-day testing the next several hours

Reports welcome!

73 Warren K2ORS


From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Sat Dec  8 11:59:54 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 11:59:54 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MP Loop antenna reconfigured
In-Reply-To: <005601cdd547$7703bb60$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <BLU0-SMTP716BDE81ADAC43EE5864E8E9440@phx.gbl>
	<005601cdd547$7703bb60$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP33269FBD40FAF04185005FE94B0@phx.gbl>

Jay:
I could possibly re-arrange the wires by moving them down and doing the parallel
connection. I remember that Laurence kept adding parallel sections to his  loops
resulting in greater current. 

I notice that the loop current did not increase very much ----maybe from 15A to 15.3A
which I was puzzled about  - expecting more. We might have a few more days above 
freezing and I could throw a few more wires along the line.
Thanks for the input.

Mitch
On 2012-12-08, at 8:25 AM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> Mitch
> 
> Additional wire might be better off used to 'fatten up' the loop conductor, lowering R and increasing loop current.
> 
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> 


From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  8 12:02:06 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 09:02:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 daytime
In-Reply-To: <6356DD4BD844498490884E4A71CBFD4B@warren7451549c>
Message-ID: <1354986126.32755.YahooMailClassic@web125306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Warren:

My grabber is running, uploading every 2 minutes.. very strong
interference locally on this frequency, but it " appears " that
I am seeing your signal, hope the grabber is useful, peek in
as you want:

http://lwca.org/grabbers/ku4xr/

73: Andy - KU4XR

--- On Sat, 12/8/12, K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:

> From: K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net>
> Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 daytime
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Saturday, December 8, 2012, 11:32 AM
> WD2XGJ QRSS 6 136.745 for mid-day
> testing the next several hours
> 
> Reports welcome!
> 
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> 
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec  8 12:05:01 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 11:05:01 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR on for a bit of daytime groundwave...
Message-ID: <50C3733D.1090506@sbcglobal.net>

Bob, I'm seeing your signal only about 10 dB down from night-time copy. 
I guess that's an indication of how much local QRM I have at night.

I also started ARGO tuned down to Warren's frequency and see his signal. 
I assume it's QRSS6 and I'm using QRSS30 at the moment so can't make out 
the individual characters.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec  8 12:36:41 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 11:36:41 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 daytime
Message-ID: <50C37AA9.3030905@sbcglobal.net>

Warren, I switched to QRSS10 and confirm that's you at 136.745 kHz.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  8 12:38:18 2012
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 17:38:18 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 daytime
In-Reply-To: <6356DD4BD844498490884E4A71CBFD4B@warren7451549c>
References: <6356DD4BD844498490884E4A71CBFD4B@warren7451549c>
Message-ID: <CAE89MiQQQfBSqG+tNFr0_3b3SVf9kssgsVL63mv0Zby_y3sSBA@mail.gmail.com>

noon copy hr
Lloyd W3NF

On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 4:32 PM, K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:

> WD2XGJ QRSS 6 136.745 for mid-day testing the next several hours
>
> Reports welcome!
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  8 13:24:34 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 10:24:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 daytime
In-Reply-To: <6356DD4BD844498490884E4A71CBFD4B@warren7451549c>
Message-ID: <1354991074.7463.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Nice Mid-Afternoon enhancement at the moment.. " XGJ " coming in 
nicely here in Friendsville, TN.

--- On Sat, 12/8/12, K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:

> From: K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net>
> Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 daytime
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Saturday, December 8, 2012, 11:32 AM
> WD2XGJ QRSS 6 136.745 for mid-day
> testing the next several hours
> 
> Reports welcome!
> 
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> 
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From fccpart15 at earthlink.net  Sat Dec  8 13:32:13 2012
From: fccpart15 at earthlink.net (Lee)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 10:32:13 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [Lowfer] GFCI trips when transmitting on 2200M
Message-ID: <15596571.1354991533990.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Fight the "on the Cheap" impulse and replace GFCI with new technology. 25 years old! In my opinion you sould ditch it. The life you save could be your own!
Lee


-----Original Message-----
>From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX <dexter.mc at gmail.com>
>Sent: Dec 7, 2012 6:53 AM
>To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;
>	UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>Subject: [Lowfer] GFCI trips when transmitting on 2200M
>
>My AC power meter and primary AC panel box is located less than ten feet 
>from my LF coil and vertical wire.  I've never had a problem with the 
>ground fault breakers in that box tripping when transmitting on 137 
>kHz.  That is until I placed some Christmas lights a bit over one 
>hundred feet from the other end of the house from where the panel box is 
>located.  The lights are powered with 125 feet of cable laying on the 
>ground.  The RF return current this cable is carrying measures just a 
>few milliamps, apparently just enough to occasionally trip the breaker.  
>Attaching multiple clamp on chokes around the cable made on difference.  
>The GFCI was installed 25 years ago.  I just read that newer ones are 
>much better at preventing false tripping due to RF.  I could just 
>replace the breaker but being a tight wad I had rather find a cure for 
>this temporary problem rather than to replace a working breaker. 
>
>Any thoughts about what to try next?
>
>Dex
>
>Hummm......I may try an isolation transformer.  The lights are LED and 
>operate at only 16 watts for 250 C9 size bulbs.
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Dec  8 13:36:25 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 13:36:25 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ARRL books
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7bGZU8muMMf5Rb2wg0odXLqcrBt+6KHtJU+-DNcVSgj9Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABP+t7bGZU8muMMf5Rb2wg0odXLqcrBt+6KHtJU+-DNcVSgj9Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AFCB6824-6B80-4C67-AD22-4558AA081391@hurontel.on.ca>

Hi Doug, Lowfers,

I've found the ARRL Antenna Compendiums Volumes 1 through 8 have a lot of interesting articles, some of which
can pertain to our LW and MW activities.  For example, some 160M antennas can be scaled to work on 500 kHz.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From listread at lwca.org  Sat Dec  8 13:55:29 2012
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 12:55:29 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] GFCI trips when transmitting on 2200M
References: <15596571.1354991533990.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <7BDDAC3ECCB5479DB427B2E46DC7A41E@HPNOTEBOOK>

Interesting point about age and GFCIs.  I wonder what the operational life 
expectancy is on one of those?  Evidently, at 25 years, Dex's is still 
working, albeit maybe a little too well.  But there aren't many electronic 
devices you leave powered up continuously for a quarter century or more and 
still expect to continue working at peak condition.  And goodness knows, 
most of us don't test them on any definite schedule.  Do they have a 
reliable failsafe mode, I wonder, or do they simply stop working and leave 
the unsuspecting user at risk?

From k2ors at verizon.net  Sat Dec  8 14:04:15 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 14:04:15 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 daytime
In-Reply-To: <1354986126.32755.YahooMailClassic@web125306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1354986126.32755.YahooMailClassic@web125306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50C38F2F.3020108@verizon.net>

Hi Andy,

    Thanks for the grabber and reports!
73 Warren


On 12/8/2012 12:02 PM, Andy - KU4XR wrote:
> Warren:
>
> My grabber is running, uploading every 2 minutes.. very strong
> interference locally on this frequency, but it " appears " that
> I am seeing your signal, hope the grabber is useful, peek in
> as you want:
>
> http://lwca.org/grabbers/ku4xr/
>
> 73: Andy - KU4XR
>
> --- On Sat, 12/8/12, K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> From: K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net>
>> Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 daytime
>> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>> Date: Saturday, December 8, 2012, 11:32 AM
>> WD2XGJ QRSS 6 136.745 for mid-day
>> testing the next several hours
>>
>> Reports welcome!
>>
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Sat Dec  8 14:05:43 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 14:05:43 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 daytime
In-Reply-To: <50C37AA9.3030905@sbcglobal.net>
References: <50C37AA9.3030905@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <50C38F87.70205@verizon.net>

Garry,
      Thanks! I'm pretty happy with this distance given the power (150W) 
and time of day.
73 Warren


On 12/8/2012 12:36 PM, Garry Hess wrote:
> Warren, I switched to QRSS10 and confirm that's you at 136.745 kHz.
>
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Sat Dec  8 14:06:28 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 14:06:28 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 daytime
In-Reply-To: <CAE89MiQQQfBSqG+tNFr0_3b3SVf9kssgsVL63mv0Zby_y3sSBA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6356DD4BD844498490884E4A71CBFD4B@warren7451549c>
	<CAE89MiQQQfBSqG+tNFr0_3b3SVf9kssgsVL63mv0Zby_y3sSBA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50C38FB4.2080600@verizon.net>

Lloyd,
      Nice copy, thanks!
73 Warren K2ORS


On 12/8/2012 12:38 PM, lloyd chastant wrote:
> noon copy hr
> Lloyd W3NF
>
> On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 4:32 PM, K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> WD2XGJ QRSS 6 136.745 for mid-day testing the next several hours
>>
>> Reports welcome!
>>
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Sat Dec  8 14:07:10 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 14:07:10 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 daytime
In-Reply-To: <1354991074.7463.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1354991074.7463.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50C38FDE.6090405@verizon.net>

Thanks Andy!
What is your rx setup?
73 Warren




On 12/8/2012 1:24 PM, Andy - KU4XR wrote:
> Nice Mid-Afternoon enhancement at the moment.. " XGJ " coming in
> nicely here in Friendsville, TN.
>
> --- On Sat, 12/8/12, K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> From: K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net>
>> Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 daytime
>> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>> Date: Saturday, December 8, 2012, 11:32 AM
>> WD2XGJ QRSS 6 136.745 for mid-day
>> testing the next several hours
>>
>> Reports welcome!
>>
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sat Dec  8 14:09:19 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 14:09:19 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XEB with MP mixed mode
Message-ID: <B48179693470408F8D8702EDDF33133E@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All: MP and XEB this afternoon on my NE 13'x35'x13' EWE antenna, Heath HD-1420 to FT-817 w/tcxo > Acer netbook.....

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/mpxeb.jpg  Rain seems to bring on power line noise here....

Mitch I will get a QRSS capture in an hour or two, your signal usually peaks here around 4PM....your signal has been robust past few days but some improvements on this end to the converter as well, so hard to tell where the pie was cut so to say....

73  Mike wa3tts

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sat Dec  8 14:33:37 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 14:33:37 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR moving to 136.06 dial freq 137.560 Tx ...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W52823080B2F1C5B18659DAAC4B0@phx.gbl>





WE2XEB moveing-now on new freq.. 		 	   		  

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sat Dec  8 14:56:05 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 14:56:05 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 daytime
In-Reply-To: <6356DD4BD844498490884E4A71CBFD4B@warren7451549c>
References: <6356DD4BD844498490884E4A71CBFD4B@warren7451549c>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7a+Sr01g1R6=MuNOAsX0QW_DYyrRBnB0SYSWLzN0TR8EQ@mail.gmail.com>

Weak, but there. :-)

73 de KB4OER




On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 11:32 AM, K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:

> WD2XGJ QRSS 6 136.745 for mid-day testing the next several hours
>
> Reports welcome!
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec  8 15:02:50 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 14:02:50 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer watering hole (185.300 kHz) operations ...
In-Reply-To: <000e01cdd54c$b9dad6d0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <000e01cdd54c$b9dad6d0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <50C39CEA.2000601@sbcglobal.net>

Jay, a simple, cheap way to cycle an existing lowfer would be to program 
a 555 timer (or multi-stable vibrator circuit of your choice) for a 
2-hour period and use it to control a relay passing battery voltage to 
the lowfer ON/OFF. If frequency stability was a concern the frequency 
source could be continuously powered and it's RF output switched to the 
lowfer PA or a dummy load by the proposed relay. I went with an 
elaborate uP timer instead so I could set the actual time and not 
necessarily do the same thing every day. No doubt there are many simple 
arrangements to cycle a lowfer on and off at a rate slow enough to allow 
DX reception on the frequency by nearby listeners.

73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sat Dec  8 16:15:23 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 16:15:23 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR on for the evening...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W53132DCBFB03B469BE4BB4AC4B0@phx.gbl>





WE2XEB on 136.06 Dial-137.560 TX Freq. 		 	   		  

From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Sat Dec  8 16:29:47 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 21:29:47 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - NEW WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. TXing every night from sunset until sunrise (weather
 permitting) at 475.7 KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50C2754A.2040905@bellsouth.net>
References: <50C2754A.2040905@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50C3B14B.2000904@bellsouth.net>




*Dial Frequency 474.2 KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/











From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sat Dec  8 18:03:33 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 18:03:33 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MP this Sat afternoon
Message-ID: <CFDAA826A5AF4441B79179815D65BB98@MichaelSappPC>

Mitch & All:  Mid day capture on QRSS30 slow on NE EWE> modified HD-1420>FT-817 w/tcxo > Acer netbook

    I made a few improvements to the HD-1420, but I'm not sure how much affect they had on 137 kHz operation.

Seeing about 40dB out of the noise from that one quiet spot on the viewer. If I move the cursor around the 

noise is -70 to -105 or so....but not sure of my standard candle reference---next thing to pay attention to I suppose.....

Looks like the V-wires transverse to the loop are adding the intended omni pattern improvements....seems like MP

was more like 30 dB out of the noise on prior captures.....Hope that helps.  73  Mike wa3tts

From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Sat Dec  8 18:42:23 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 23:42:23 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] RFSpace - SDR-IQ - DDC software defined receiver.
Message-ID: <50C3D05F.60504@bellsouth.net>

Anyone using the SDR-IQ on 600 or 2200M?

Regards and 73

Juan /K4LCD - WF2XXQ

-- 
Ofelia y Juan Antonio Granados

9451 SW 97 Street
Miami, FL 33176
Ph. 305 270 8779; Fax. 305 595 1883;
http://educatingmediators.org
http://peoplemusicschool.org
http://hispanicremedial.org
http://escueladehoy.org


From jhjesse at verizon.net  Sat Dec  8 18:51:22 2012
From: jhjesse at verizon.net (JJ)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 18:51:22 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] RFSpace - SDR-IQ - DDC software defined receiver.
In-Reply-To: <50C3D05F.60504@bellsouth.net>
References: <50C3D05F.60504@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50C3D27A.3010809@verizon.net>

Yes.  Up until about 2 weeks ago I was using one regularly.  I use a 
HPSDR-Mercury now.  I use the SDRs mostly for chasing NDBs.
Jon WS1K

On 12/8/2012 6:42 PM, JUAN A. GRANADOS wrote:
> Anyone using the SDR-IQ on 600 or 2200M?
>
> Regards and 73
>
> Juan /K4LCD - WF2XXQ
>


From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sat Dec  8 18:51:59 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 18:51:59 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MP Sat afternoon
Message-ID: <6951C14ED9C1424D9840C3BE5B6A4656@MichaelSappPC>

Mitch & All: Oopps!  Helps to attach the capture view....

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/mp12812.jpg

Mike

From dexter.mc at gmail.com  Sat Dec  8 19:05:14 2012
From: dexter.mc at gmail.com (Dexter McIntyre W4DEX)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:05:14 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] GFCI trips when transmitting on 2200M
In-Reply-To: <01fb01cdd4ed$c27975d0$6ba1f604@mainframe>
References: <50C202D0.6010609@gmail.com>
	<01fb01cdd4ed$c27975d0$6ba1f604@mainframe>
Message-ID: <50C3D5BA.40600@gmail.com>

Problem solved.  I took the quick and easy way since the lights are 
temporary and I had what would work.  Isolation transformer and timer of 
early 60s vintage:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15095569/w4dex/DSCN0830.jpg

I thought about replacing the breaker but it works and most everything I 
have replaced around the home in recent years hasn't been of the quality 
as the old.  The test button works but just out of curiosity I put a 10k 
then 20k resistor across the hot lead and ground and the breaker 
instantly tripped.  A 27k took about a second to trip it and a 33k 
didn't trip it. 

Dex


 

From dexter.mc at gmail.com  Sat Dec  8 19:07:31 2012
From: dexter.mc at gmail.com (Dexter McIntyre W4DEX)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:07:31 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] RFSpace - SDR-IQ - DDC software defined receiver.
In-Reply-To: <50C3D05F.60504@bellsouth.net>
References: <50C3D05F.60504@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50C3D643.2050404@gmail.com>

JUAN A. GRANADOS wrote:
> Anyone using the SDR-IQ on 600 or 2200M?
>
>
Yes.  Works great.

Dex

From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Sat Dec  8 19:35:19 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 00:35:19 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] RFSpace - SDR-IQ - DDC software defined receiver.
In-Reply-To: <50C3D643.2050404@gmail.com>
References: <50C3D05F.60504@bellsouth.net> <50C3D643.2050404@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50C3DCC7.6080904@bellsouth.net>

Thank you Dex.

Could we have a brief chat about it on the telephone?

Juan /K4LCD - WF2XXQ - 305 323 8025


On 12/09/2012 12:07 AM, Dexter McIntyre W4DEX wrote:
> JUAN A. GRANADOS wrote:
>> Anyone using the SDR-IQ on 600 or 2200M?
>>
>>
> Yes.  Works great.
>
> Dex
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-- 
Ofelia y Juan Antonio Granados

9451 SW 97 Street
Miami, FL 33176
Ph. 305 270 8779; Fax. 305 595 1883;
http://educatingmediators.org
http://peoplemusicschool.org
http://hispanicremedial.org
http://escueladehoy.org


From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Dec  8 20:14:32 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 20:14:32 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] GFCI trips when transmitting on 2200M
In-Reply-To: <50C3D5BA.40600@gmail.com>
References: <50C202D0.6010609@gmail.com>
	<01fb01cdd4ed$c27975d0$6ba1f604@mainframe>
	<50C3D5BA.40600@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AE6DFB2C-9A7E-4FEC-B94A-6452890034AB@hurontel.on.ca>

> I thought about replacing the breaker but it works and most everything I have replaced around the home in recent years hasn't been of the quality as the old.

Dex, I have to agree with you on that one.  Quality is something you really have to hunt for these days.  I could rant about why, but we'll leave
that for another time and place.  That timer looks a lot like a Paragon which I used for the block heater in my SUV when it HAD to start for me
in the mornings.  Now I'm retired and don't have to go anywhere unless I want to!

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  8 20:50:23 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 17:50:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 daytime
In-Reply-To: <50C38FDE.6090405@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1355017823.46194.YahooMailClassic@web125304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

--- On Sat, 12/8/12, Warren K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:
> Thanks Andy!
> What is your rx setup?
> 73 Warren

Antenna is my 160 OCF Windom..40 feet at the apex, and 
20 feet AGL at each end.. I am LC loading each side of
the coax.. found this to give best signal reception..
Rig is the Kenwood TS450S with all filter options..
Using dual 500 Hz filters in CW mode.. A 70 Hz Active
audio filter between the rig and the sound card.. Also
using 2 passive audio clippers.. 1 before the audio filter,
and 1 after the filter.. 
Reception is direct with the rig tuned to the LF frequency..
No Pre-Amp.. and ARGO is tweaked to give the best weak signal 
visual on the waterfall..

Thanks for burning the electrons today..

73: - Andy - KU4XR

From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Dec  8 21:00:37 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 21:00:37 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ and others
In-Reply-To: <50C3B14B.2000904@bellsouth.net>
References: <50C2754A.2040905@bellsouth.net> <50C3B14B.2000904@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <30D320E3-49D9-448D-9A2F-6DADCBC5C6BA@hurontel.on.ca>

2322 -24 -1.1   0.475752  0 WG2XJM EN91 37
2326 -22 -0.9   0.475765 -1 WG2XKA FN33 23
2326 -28 -0.6   0.475778  1 WF2XXQ EL95 17
2328 -24 -1.0   0.475705  0 WG2XJM EN91 37
2328 -16 -1.0   0.475717  0 WG2XJM EN91 37
2328   6 -1.0   0.475728  0 WG2XJM EN91 37
2328 -18 -1.0   0.475740  0 WG2XJM EN91 37
2330 -29 -0.6   0.475778  0 WF2XXQ EL95 17
2334 -28 -0.9   0.475691  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
2338 -22 -0.9   0.475705  0 WG2XJM EN91 37
2338 -15 -0.9   0.475717  0 WG2XJM EN91 37

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Sat Dec  8 21:07:13 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 21:07:13 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MP this Sat afternoon
In-Reply-To: <CFDAA826A5AF4441B79179815D65BB98@MichaelSappPC>
References: <CFDAA826A5AF4441B79179815D65BB98@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP16E3997350AFB756CE81A9E94A0@phx.gbl>

Good news - thanks Mike..... I will leave it for a few more days - and then may tie one 
of the wires in parallel with the current 2 wire loop I am using.   The idea is to increase the current
in the loop as suggested by Jay...... so am going to try it.

By the way - I enjoy the commentary about your mods and techniques.
Have already changed a few bypass and coupling capacitors in some of the preamps..  :-)

73
Mitch  
On 2012-12-08, at 6:03 PM, Michael Sapp wrote:

> Mitch & All:  Mid day capture on QRSS30 slow on NE EWE> modified HD-1420>FT-817 w/tcxo > Acer netbook
> 
>    I made a few improvements to the HD-1420, but I'm not sure how much affect they had on 137 kHz operation.
> 
> Seeing about 40dB out of the noise from that one quiet spot on the viewer. If I move the cursor around the 
> 
> noise is -70 to -105 or so....but not sure of my standard candle reference---next thing to pay attention to I suppose.....
> 
> Looks like the V-wires transverse to the loop are adding the intended omni pattern improvements....seems like MP
> 
> was more like 30 dB out of the noise on prior captures.....Hope that helps.  73  Mike wa3tts


From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  8 21:06:43 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 18:06:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200 meter watering hole
Message-ID: <1355018803.20411.YahooMailClassic@web125302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Just switched, and so far seeing MP - XES - and XKO..
Anybody else want to jump in the water ?? might be a
nice night for a LF swim... hi - hi

http://lwca.org/grabbers/ku4xr/

Andy - KU4XR

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec  8 21:38:13 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 20:38:13 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200 meter watering hole
Message-ID: <50C3F995.4020106@sbcglobal.net>

Andy, now there are 4 signals in there. High-to-low frequency list is 
XNS, MP, XES, and XKO. Maybe NA is around too but haven't detected it.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  8 21:48:08 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 18:48:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200 meter watering hole
In-Reply-To: <50C3F995.4020106@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1355021288.551.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Nice signal from Jay down here in the southland..
Looking to see if NA shows up, but he is usually right
below DEX, and he is absolutely pounding me tonite.. I 
might not be able to pull NA thru if he does drop in..
Having fun here though.. Thanks for the signals men..
Andy - KU4XR

--- On Sat, 12/8/12, Garry Hess <k3siw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> From: Garry Hess <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] 2200 meter watering hole
> To: "lowfer list" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Saturday, December 8, 2012, 9:38 PM
> Andy, now there are 4 signals in
> there. High-to-low frequency list is XNS, MP, XES, and XKO.
> Maybe NA is around too but haven't detected it.
> -- 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From jgibbs at telus.net  Sat Dec  8 21:52:12 2012
From: jgibbs at telus.net (John Gibbs)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 18:52:12 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m
Message-ID: <50C3FCDC.6040401@telus.net>

FYI VE7BDQ will be on Op-era 8 from now until approximately 09_0600 utc 
TX frequency 137.650 kHz receive on 136.000 usb. beacon every 24 minutes

73 John / VE7BDQ



From hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com  Sat Dec  8 22:30:25 2012
From: hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com (Laurence KL1 X)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 18:30:25 -0900
Subject: [Lowfer] MP Loop antenna reconfigured
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP33269FBD40FAF04185005FE94B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP716BDE81ADAC43EE5864E8E9440@phx.gbl>,
	<005601cdd547$7703bb60$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>,
	<BLU0-SMTP33269FBD40FAF04185005FE94B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU153-W21AB8EA8545288B9A7FA21CF4A0@phx.gbl>


I recall the original 1 cable #8 required around 9nF to resonate but adding 4 X #6 and #8 required 12nF or so. It was a lot of copper and loops diverged by a few feet depndant on which branch of the Cottonwoods the slingshot put a weight over - ! an increased the signal around 1.5dB was realized - again this from memory.

Ground screens beneath loop to reduce ground losses....experiment :-)

Ive just installed 2 x 3 ft widths  x 150ft long , separated by 5 ft or so of welded fence wire parallel to the loop on the ground and bonded to each other  and then tied down to a Well bore casing - it was getting dark so I couldnt play long but it resulted in a reduction of some 200pf to resonate the main loop - loop current remained the same as expected.

 We will see what differences it makes when the wx improved - it just started snowing...  All "grounds" are isolated back to the coax so it is a reactance change at least.

Cheers
Laurence



> From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca
> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 11:59:54 -0500
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] MP Loop antenna reconfigured
> 
> Jay:
> I could possibly re-arrange the wires by moving them down and doing the parallel
> connection. I remember that Laurence kept adding parallel sections to his  loops
> resulting in greater current. 
> 
> I notice that the loop current did not increase very much ----maybe from 15A to 15.3A
> which I was puzzled about  - expecting more. We might have a few more days above 
> freezing and I could throw a few more wires along the line.
> Thanks for the input.
> 
> Mitch
> On 2012-12-08, at 8:25 AM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > Mitch
> > 
> > Additional wire might be better off used to 'fatten up' the loop conductor, lowering R and increasing loop current.
> > 
> > Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> > 
> 
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From hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com  Sat Dec  8 22:31:20 2012
From: hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com (Laurence KL1 X)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 18:31:20 -0900
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m
In-Reply-To: <50C3FCDC.6040401@telus.net>
References: <50C3FCDC.6040401@telus.net>
Message-ID: <BLU153-W53A2BA031121237009B4F0CF4A0@phx.gbl>



Also on Op8 overnight - Laurence WE2XPQ

> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 18:52:12 -0800
> From: jgibbs at telus.net
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Lowfer] 2200m
> 
> FYI VE7BDQ will be on Op-era 8 from now until approximately 09_0600 utc 
> TX frequency 137.650 kHz receive on 136.000 usb. beacon every 24 minutes
> 
> 73 John / VE7BDQ
> 
> 
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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Sat Dec  8 23:11:31 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 23:11:31 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MP Loop antenna reconfigured
In-Reply-To: <BLU153-W21AB8EA8545288B9A7FA21CF4A0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP716BDE81ADAC43EE5864E8E9440@phx.gbl>,
	<005601cdd547$7703bb60$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>,
	<BLU0-SMTP33269FBD40FAF04185005FE94B0@phx.gbl>
	<BLU153-W21AB8EA8545288B9A7FA21CF4A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP49E8B7C9C7555113F70205E94A0@phx.gbl>

Thanks for refreshing my memory Laurence - I still remember your  sketches of the trees and the
many wires around the loop. I have two parallel # 8/#10 separated by 2" pvc insulators every
3-4 feet - as requested by the squirrels.

I retuned with the addition of each vertical -  and also found a reduction of  capacitance ( about 100 pf each time ).
Temperature hovering -4C to +4C so not getting any frozen ground yet. 
In a distant past I spent 2-1/2 years at 78.8N 103.6W....... I imagine you're beginning to lose the daylight now ?

Thanks agn

Mitch
On 2012-12-08, at 10:30 PM, Laurence KL1 X wrote:

> 
> I recall the original 1 cable #8 required around 9nF to resonate but adding 4 X #6 and #8 required 12nF or so. It was a lot of copper and loops diverged by a few feet depndant on which branch of the Cottonwoods the slingshot put a weight over - ! an increased the signal around 1.5dB was realized - again this from memory.
> 
> Ground screens beneath loop to reduce ground losses....experiment :-)
> 
> Ive just installed 2 x 3 ft widths  x 150ft long , separated by 5 ft or so of welded fence wire parallel to the loop on the ground and bonded to each other  and then tied down to a Well bore casing - it was getting dark so I couldnt play long but it resulted in a reduction of some 200pf to resonate the main loop - loop current remained the same as expected.
> 
> We will see what differences it makes when the wx improved - it just started snowing...  All "grounds" are isolated back to the coax so it is a reactance change at least.
> 
> Cheers
> Laurence
> 


From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Sat Dec  8 23:43:28 2012
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 20:43:28 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] GFCI trips when transmitting on 2200M
References: <15596571.1354991533990.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<7BDDAC3ECCB5479DB427B2E46DC7A41E@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <02d001cdd5c7$f6c9c940$4ba2f604@mainframe>

"Do they have a reliable failsafe mode, I wonder, or do they simply stop
working and leave the unsuspecting user at risk?"

More importantly, what could possibly fail?  I test mine monthly, most are 
well into their 3rd decade, no problems.

Kurt


From kl7uw at acsalaska.net  Sun Dec  9 02:25:21 2012
From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 22:25:21 -0900
Subject: [Lowfer] [600MRG] RFSpace - SDR-IQ - DDC software defined
	receiver.
In-Reply-To: <50C3D05F.60504@bellsouth.net>
References: <50C3D05F.60504@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <201212090725.qB97POBT048385@cordova.acsalaska.net>

I use a SDR-IQ on 600m with my K3 used as exciter for a 100w NDB transmitter.

73, Ed - KL7UW & /45

At 02:42 PM 12/8/2012, JUAN A. GRANADOS wrote:
>Anyone using the SDR-IQ on 600 or 2200M?
>
>Regards and 73
>
>Juan /K4LCD - WF2XXQ
>
>--
>Ofelia y Juan Antonio Granados
>
>9451 SW 97 Street
>Miami, FL 33176
>Ph. 305 270 8779; Fax. 305 595 1883;
>http://educatingmediators.org
>http://peoplemusicschool.org
>http://hispanicremedial.org
>http://escueladehoy.org
>
>_______________________________________________
>600MRG mailing list
>600MRG at w7ekb.com
>http://w7ekb.com/mailman/listinfo/600mrg_w7ekb.com


From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec  9 07:46:22 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 07:46:22 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ARRL Quick Poll
Message-ID: <CABP+t7Yf0dvfFop7tfP0Cj08Dddqy3YOfuxSyZ3HfFxt1hv+wQ@mail.gmail.com>

The ARRL's latest "quick poll" has a question about how we feel about a
possible amateur LF allocation.

Please take the time to answer this question. All it takes is a single
mouse click.

http://www.arrl.org/quickstats

If the ARRL believes there is significant interest in an amateur LF
allocation in the USA, they might put more effort into "making it happen"
with the FCC.

73, Doug KB4OER

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sun Dec  9 15:01:19 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 15:01:19 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Tacamo on 17.8
Message-ID: <F68FF4F69AF9498FA7B8B022FE07AC17@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All: Tacamo S9+ on 17.8 kHz at 2:51pm then dissappeared in a few minutes.  A pair of military jets went by around 1:30PM subsonic headed North, but plenty of engine dBs. They don't visit Pittsburgh that frequently as far as average air traffic....Hopefully just weekend training over Lake Erie---not that far away from here at Mach .8....

Mike wa3tts EN90xn


From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sun Dec  9 15:04:06 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 15:04:06 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] cw QSO tonight 137 kHz
Message-ID: <003401cdd648$58ae26d0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

WD2XES and WD2XNS will be having a cw QSO tonight on 137.2 kHz at 0200Z. Reports appreciated. Other 
stations are more than welcome to check in!

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 


From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sun Dec  9 15:05:10 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 15:05:10 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Tacamo back again
Message-ID: <B00639BF91154C6F8019707E30BF12EE@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All: Tacamo on 17.8kHz back on again at 3:03pm local....Mike wa3tts

From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Sun Dec  9 17:21:20 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 22:21:20 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - NEW WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. TXing every night from sunset until sunrise (weather
 permitting) at 475.7 KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50C3B14B.2000904@bellsouth.net>
References: <50C3B14B.2000904@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50C50EE0.2060200@bellsouth.net>




*Dial Frequency 474.2 KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/











From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sun Dec  9 18:03:14 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 18:03:14 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MP & XKO in EN90xn
Message-ID: <6089E347B53C4127A47ACF5762EEDFD0@MichaelSappPC>

Hi Mitch, Dex, & All: Nice QRSS60 copy on MP and XKO, just barely squeezed both into the capture frame with the SW EWE antenna, modified HD-1420>FT-817 w/tcxo9 and Acer netbook w NTP....

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/xkomp129.jpg

Only about 6dB F/B on the 13'x35'x13' EWEs at 137 kHz

I think I'll go turn the HVAC modulation back on now (hi).... 73  Mike wa3tts

From w1tag at charter.net  Sun Dec  9 18:10:58 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 18:10:58 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MP & XKO in EN90xn
In-Reply-To: <6089E347B53C4127A47ACF5762EEDFD0@MichaelSappPC>
References: <6089E347B53C4127A47ACF5762EEDFD0@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <50C51A82.9070707@charter.net>

VO1NA is also easily visible here in DFCW just below 137.777, sending NA.

Putting WD2XES on the usual 137.779 until the scheduled 9 PM CW QSO on 
137.200.

John, W1TAG/WD2XES

On 12/9/2012 6:03 PM, Michael Sapp wrote:
> Hi Mitch, Dex, & All: Nice QRSS60 copy on MP and XKO, just barely squeezed both into the capture frame with the SW EWE antenna, modified HD-1420>FT-817 w/tcxo9 and Acer netbook w NTP....
>
> http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/xkomp129.jpg

From w5jgv at spectrotek.com  Sun Dec  9 18:13:38 2012
From: w5jgv at spectrotek.com (Ralph W5JGV)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 17:13:38 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] The WD2XSH/7 beacon has...
Message-ID: <018701cdd662$db741790$925c46b0$@spectrotek.com>

...Resumed our normal winter schedule of 24/7 transmissions on a
frequency of 475.300 KHz.

Modulation is as follows: 39 second 15 WPM ID - "VVV VVV VVV de WD2XSH/7
WD2XSH/7 WD2XSH/7" then 5 seconds silence, then  PSK-31 loop for 2:15,
followed by a 60 second pause, 10 WPM CW loop, 60 second pause.  Loop
repeats.

Unfortunately, this will clobber the grabber receivers, although they
will still fins string signals.

73,

Ralph? W5JGV - WD2XSH/7 




From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sun Dec  9 18:55:22 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 18:55:22 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MP XKO NA
Message-ID: <95E6106352A0412393A1F3C6FD41CF9A@MichaelSappPC>

Thanks for pointing that out John, still much for me to learn in this FQ range.....Mike wa3tts

VO1NA is also easily visible here in DFCW just below 137.777, sending NA.

Putting WD2XES on the usual 137.779 until the scheduled 9 PM CW QSO on 
137.200.

John, W1TAG/WD2XES

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec  9 20:38:14 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 20:38:14 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] QRN
Message-ID: <CABP+t7ajBxBtjccjp05XYVO=FHcgf=aDSYyety3U1FuzqJXqOw@mail.gmail.com>

S7+ QRN tonight.

Think I'll just give the the radios the night off.

73 Doug KB4OER

From k2ors at verizon.net  Sun Dec  9 21:03:15 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (K2ORS)
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 21:03:15 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] cw QSO tonight 137 kHz
References: <003401cdd648$58ae26d0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <1DB14A9E4DCA4A799AF60360131EE9C8@DC66PRF1>

Jay,
Good copy on you and John as expected.
I heard  a bit of a slip as you started to sign WE2XG....
and then corrected to WD2XNS!

73 Warren

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 3:04 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] cw QSO tonight 137 kHz


> WD2XES and WD2XNS will be having a cw QSO tonight on 137.2 kHz at 0200Z. 
> Reports appreciated. Other stations are more than welcome to check in!
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
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From fccpart15 at earthlink.net  Sun Dec  9 21:28:01 2012
From: fccpart15 at earthlink.net (Lee)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 18:28:01 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [Lowfer] ARRL Quick Poll
Message-ID: <27840650.1355106481927.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Tried to take it, but alas for members only. I have been meaning to join for years. Now I have a good reason. Never been much of a joiner. Remember the very very old joke. I would never join a club that have me as member.
Lee


-----Original Message-----
>From: "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com>
>Sent: Dec 9, 2012 4:46 AM
>To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp,
>	UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>Subject: [Lowfer] ARRL Quick Poll
>
>The ARRL's latest "quick poll" has a question about how we feel about a
>possible amateur LF allocation.
>
>Please take the time to answer this question. All it takes is a single
>mouse click.
>
>http://www.arrl.org/quickstats
>
>If the ARRL believes there is significant interest in an amateur LF
>allocation in the USA, they might put more effort into "making it happen"
>with the FCC.
>
>73, Doug KB4OER
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sun Dec  9 21:46:58 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 21:46:58 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] cw QSO tonight 137 kHz
In-Reply-To: <1DB14A9E4DCA4A799AF60360131EE9C8@DC66PRF1>
References: <003401cdd648$58ae26d0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>,
	<1DB14A9E4DCA4A799AF60360131EE9C8@DC66PRF1>
Message-ID: <BLU162-W230E55B1AE9E3EF8EDCF55AC490@phx.gbl>


John and Jay;
I have never heard this band as bad as tonite! I could barely copy a few letters amongst the QRN which was S9+. But still Jay sounded like he was a million miles away with that echo on what sigs I could hear. MY 10W ERP didn't do anything as no one heard me either!73, Bob WE2XES
----------------------------------------
> From: k2ors at verizon.net
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 21:03:15 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] cw QSO tonight 137 kHz
>
> Jay,
> Good copy on you and John as expected.
> I heard a bit of a slip as you started to sign WE2XG....
> and then corrected to WD2XNS!
>
> 73 Warren
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
> To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 3:04 PM
> Subject: [Lowfer] cw QSO tonight 137 kHz
>
>
> > WD2XES and WD2XNS will be having a cw QSO tonight on 137.2 kHz at 0200Z.
> > Reports appreciated. Other stations are more than welcome to check in!
> >
> > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2
> > ______________________________________________________________
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Sun Dec  9 22:02:53 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 22:02:53 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 QRSS 6
Message-ID: <50C550DD.9080509@verizon.net>

I know static is high but will put WD2XGJ on 136.745 QRSS anyway.

Reports welcome!

73 Warren K2ORS


From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  9 23:20:00 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 20:20:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] XGJ
Message-ID: <1355113200.95503.YahooMailClassic@web125304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Static is a beast tonite..with Noise Blanker, Constant S-7, peaking 
to 15 over in a 500 Hz BW..10:30 pm signal discernable, 11 pm, detectable,
without NB, static is 30 over S-9..Lotsa ?Volts there !!

Andy
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Sun Dec  9 23:23:30 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 23:23:30 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XGJ
In-Reply-To: <1355113200.95503.YahooMailClassic@web125304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1355113200.95503.YahooMailClassic@web125304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50C563C2.60309@verizon.net>

Thanks Andy!
It takes persistence and a good setup like yours on a night like this!

73 Warren


On 12/9/2012 11:20 PM, Andy - KU4XR wrote:
> Static is a beast tonite..with Noise Blanker, Constant S-7, peaking
> to 15 over in a 500 Hz BW..10:30 pm signal discernable, 11 pm, detectable,
> without NB, static is 30 over S-9..Lotsa ?Volts there !!
>
> Andy
>
>
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 10 00:02:15 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 21:02:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] XGJ-2
Message-ID: <1355115735.32133.YahooMailClassic@web125304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Careful tweaking of IF Shift, and Notch Filter helped reduce 
carrier interference, and static effects.. XGJ is again readable
This is fun..

Andy - KU4XR
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 10 00:32:15 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 21:32:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] XGJ-3 last rpt
Message-ID: <1355117535.97431.YahooMailClassic@web125302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

No setting changes, propagation improved a bit, XGJ still
looking good.. interesting challenge, tnx for the signal
Warren.. storms coming, past bedtime, grounding the AE..
73 all: - Andy - KU4XR
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec 10 05:57:21 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 05:57:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ARRL Quick Poll
In-Reply-To: <27840650.1355106481927.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <27840650.1355106481927.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7aCyEQs0r2aQxV0PYOsnXTjAn6w8i__DdraXhKVb0vWiA@mail.gmail.com>

Well at least now we know it's for members only. ;-)




On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Lee <fccpart15 at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Tried to take it, but alas for members only. I have been meaning to join
> for years. Now I have a good reason. Never been much of a joiner. Remember
> the very very old joke. I would never join a club that have me as member.
> Lee
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com>
> >Sent: Dec 9, 2012 4:46 AM
> >To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp,
> >       UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> >Subject: [Lowfer] ARRL Quick Poll
> >
> >The ARRL's latest "quick poll" has a question about how we feel about a
> >possible amateur LF allocation.
> >
> >Please take the time to answer this question. All it takes is a single
> >mouse click.
> >
> >http://www.arrl.org/quickstats
> >
> >If the ARRL believes there is significant interest in an amateur LF
> >allocation in the USA, they might put more effort into "making it happen"
> >with the FCC.
> >
> >73, Doug KB4OER
> >______________________________________________________________
> >Lowfer mailing list
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 10 07:37:30 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 06:37:30 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 137 kHz stations
Message-ID: <50C5D78A.4070809@sbcglobal.net>

A noisy night, but nonetheless 4 stations came through well (XNS, MP, 
XES, and XKO), along with hints of NA.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 10 07:39:17 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 06:39:17 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 137 kHz stations
Message-ID: <50C5D7F5.5080302@sbcglobal.net>

(VO1)NA reception improved around 0500Z.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Mon Dec 10 07:51:56 2012
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:51:56 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 QRSS 6
In-Reply-To: <50C550DD.9080509@verizon.net>
References: <50C550DD.9080509@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAE89MiQZtCyeZ7-a=NC73bJZmRdE8GxQ5msmA=C0YV1X_aEQ_A@mail.gmail.com>

still nice hr at 7AM
Lloyd W3NF

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:02 AM, Warren K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:

> I know static is high but will put WD2XGJ on 136.745 QRSS anyway.
>
> Reports welcome!
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>
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From wrcromwell at gmail.com  Mon Dec 10 08:39:37 2012
From: wrcromwell at gmail.com (Bill Cromwell)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 08:39:37 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ARRL Quick Poll
In-Reply-To: <27840650.1355106481927.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <27840650.1355106481927.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1355146777.1990.31.camel@lancelot>

On Sun, 2012-12-09 at 18:28 -0800, Lee wrote:
> Tried to take it, but alas for members only. I have been meaning to join for years. Now I have a good reason. Never been much of a joiner. Remember the very very old joke. I would never join a club that have me as member.
> Lee

Hi Lee...

...Everybody,

I found it for myself. My decisions about being a member or not are
dollar driven. I'm retired and right after I retired the economy
collapsed and my retirement income stream was damaged (like lots of
other people). Can't "unretire" That is not to cry and whine but just a
statement of how it is.

If any league officials are on here you can consider that I will
transmit at some level if there is an amateur allocation. I am already
moving to get a transmitter on the air for a new 600 meter allocation
when that is made available. I already listen there and on LF
frequencies (down to 15 kc).

73,

Bill  KU8H


From L.Howell at conocophillips.com  Mon Dec 10 12:56:22 2012
From: L.Howell at conocophillips.com (Howell, Laurence J)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 08:56:22 -0900
Subject: [Lowfer] ARRL Quick Poll
In-Reply-To: <27840650.1355106481927.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <27840650.1355106481927.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <F1024B91C2B8B34C934F5E95F449105C228DB1ECE9@ANCEXMB71.conoco.net>

You could try setting up a 90 day Guest account - that appears to work here :-)

Laurence KL 1 X (voted!)



-----Original Message-----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lee
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 5:28 PM
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US,European,& UK) and MedFer bands
Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: [Lowfer] ARRL Quick Poll

Tried to take it, but alas for members only. I have been meaning to join for years. Now I have a good reason. Never been much of a joiner. Remember the very very old joke. I would never join a club that have me as member.
Lee


-----Original Message-----
>From: "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com>
>Sent: Dec 9, 2012 4:46 AM
>To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp,
>	UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>Subject: [Lowfer] ARRL Quick Poll
>
>The ARRL's latest "quick poll" has a question about how we feel about a
>possible amateur LF allocation.
>
>Please take the time to answer this question. All it takes is a single
>mouse click.
>
>http://www.arrl.org/quickstats
>
>If the ARRL believes there is significant interest in an amateur LF
>allocation in the USA, they might put more effort into "making it happen"
>with the FCC.
>
>73, Doug KB4OER
>______________________________________________________________
>Lowfer mailing list
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Mon Dec 10 13:22:09 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:22:09 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 QRSS 6
In-Reply-To: <CAE89MiQZtCyeZ7-a=NC73bJZmRdE8GxQ5msmA=C0YV1X_aEQ_A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <50C550DD.9080509@verizon.net>
	<CAE89MiQZtCyeZ7-a=NC73bJZmRdE8GxQ5msmA=C0YV1X_aEQ_A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50C62851.3050500@verizon.net>

Tnx Lloyd, your reports and captures are appreciated!

73 Warren

On 12/10/2012 7:51 AM, lloyd chastant wrote:
> still nice hr at 7AM
> Lloyd W3NF
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:02 AM, Warren K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> I know static is high but will put WD2XGJ on 136.745 QRSS anyway.
>>
>> Reports welcome!
>>
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Mon Dec 10 13:23:34 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:23:34 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XGJ-3 last rpt
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Message-ID: <50C628A6.2010408@verizon.net>

Andy,

     Thanks for the captures!
Tough condx last night, I saw the T-storms marching through TN last 
night on the Weather Channel.

73 Warren K2ORS


On 12/10/2012 12:32 AM, Andy - KU4XR wrote:
> No setting changes, propagation improved a bit, XGJ still
> looking good.. interesting challenge, tnx for the signal
> Warren.. storms coming, past bedtime, grounding the AE..
> 73 all: - Andy - KU4XR
>
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From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Mon Dec 10 17:58:56 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:58:56 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - NEW WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. TXing every night from sunset until sunrise (weather
 permitting) at 475.7 KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50C50EE0.2060200@bellsouth.net>
References: <50C50EE0.2060200@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50C66930.6030703@bellsouth.net>





*Dial Frequency 474.2 KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/






From rjraide at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 10 18:05:51 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:05:51 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR moved back to 498kHz Dial...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W123E38CD55DC68D1D11C7BAC490@phx.gbl>





WE6XGR has taken over the ant and exciter.  Will wait for colder wx to give 137 another blast with WE2XEB.498Dial-499.5 Tx freq for tonite-on now till at least 0500Z-all decodes appreciated-Bob 		 	   		  

From wa8ejh at gmail.com  Mon Dec 10 22:11:52 2012
From: wa8ejh at gmail.com (WA8EJH)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:11:52 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Surprise signal on 185.0 KHz
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W123E38CD55DC68D1D11C7BAC490@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W123E38CD55DC68D1D11C7BAC490@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <50C6A478.6010709@gmail.com>

I was monitoring with dial frequency of 184.0 to see what I might detect 
with Argo.  I didn't see anything after about 30 minutes, so I closed 
Argo.  I had just closed Argo when I was startled by some loud CW.  At 
first I wasn't sure if it was coming from the computer or from the 
receiver.  I switched to Spectran just in time to see the end of the 
transmission.  It was right at 1000 Hz.  I didn't get to visually decode 
the CW, but my ear's memory was that it was dit dah dit dah dah dit dah 
dit without any clear indication of separate letters.  I heard it as R G 
N, but since I was caught by surprise I can't be certain I remembered it 
correctly.  The pattern was repeated a few times in rapid succession and 
then abruptly ended. This was at about 03:00 GMT.

Did I have an auditory hallucination?  Has anyone else ever seen (or 
heard) this?

Larry, WA8EJH


From rjraide at hotmail.com  Tue Dec 11 00:57:09 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 00:57:09 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR results tonite...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W7D0A4180799D9EEB32C1AAC480@phx.gbl>


Very decent condx on 500 tonite. Nearly 400 decodes and 10 decoders-5 from "across the pond".
Just by a quick look at the head count on MF [500] and LF [137] there was no comparison. 600 Meters is where the action is at the moment. 
Thanks to the decoders;
F59706
EI0CF
G8HUH
PA0O
G0KTN
KB9IV
RLS [CALIF.]
W3NF
WA8EJH
K3SIW
Hope to catch ya'all agn tomorrow hear-starting 2300Z-Bob 		 	   		  

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Tue Dec 11 16:49:44 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:49:44 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite-starts at 2230Z...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W47C609AE01DE7D1221D1B8AC480@phx.gbl>



WE6XGR NY will be on usual 499.5 Tx freq-498 Dial freq for the evening-thanks in advance for any and all decodes-Bob 		 	   		  

From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Tue Dec 11 18:00:19 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:00:19 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - NEW WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. TXing every night from sunset until sunrise (weather
 permitting) at 475.7 KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50C66930.6030703@bellsouth.net>
References: <50C66930.6030703@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50C7BB03.3070301@bellsouth.net>






*Dial Frequency 474.2 KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/






From rjraide at hotmail.com  Wed Dec 12 01:08:02 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 01:08:02 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonight results...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W49AF2AAC311317742A58EBAC4F0@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR [WE2XGR/6] and company had a great night on 600 meters. Conditions were superb and one click to the activity box on the WSPR site proved that something was happening. I checked it at one point and saw 40 participants on the 500 kHz band rivaling 30 and 40 meters!
Thanks to the following stations for 495 decodes this evening;
PA0O
DG3LV
DF2LS
G0KTN
G8HUH
DL-SWL
F59706
WA6MPG
WA3TTS
W3NF
KB9IV
K3SIW
Hope we can do it again tomorrow-Bob 		 	   		  

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Wed Dec 12 16:46:42 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:46:42 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W2300BADA8F2EB1215A844AC4F0@phx.gbl>



WE6XGR NY back at it again-starting 2230Z for the evening on usual 498 Dial freq-499.5 Tx freq. Any and all decodes appreciated-Bob 		 	   		  

From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Wed Dec 12 17:50:50 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 22:50:50 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - NEW WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. TXing every night from sunset until sunrise (weather
 permitting) at 475.7 KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50C7BB03.3070301@bellsouth.net>
References: <50C7BB03.3070301@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50C90A4A.5020900@bellsouth.net>







*Dial Frequency 474.2 KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/








From no3m at no3m.net  Wed Dec 12 19:01:38 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric Tichansky)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:01:38 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] EU WSPR Decode DK7FC
Message-ID: <50C91AE2.6070505@no3m.net>

First ever EU WSPR decode here on 630M:

2352 -30  0.1   0.475762  0 DK7FC JN49 30

Propagation seems average, but lower noise tonight than in the last 
several days.  Northeast RX antenna is a broadside array of three 1000 
ft beverages with 300 ft spacing between beverages.

73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Wed Dec 12 19:14:25 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:14:25 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] On 160 meter fone...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W25277BEB538B07F9EBC67DAC4E0@phx.gbl>





WE6XGR will be off for hour or so as have AM fone sked with Warren and Jay be back on WSPR in hour or so [0200] 		 	   		  

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Wed Dec 12 19:27:22 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:27:22 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] [600MRG] EU WSPR Decode DK7FC
References: <50C91AE2.6070505@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <001f01cdd8c8$9efcf850$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Eric

Nice going! 

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric Tichansky" <no3m at no3m.net>
To: <600mrg at w7ekb.com>; <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 7:01 PM
Subject: [600MRG] EU WSPR Decode DK7FC


> First ever EU WSPR decode here on 630M:
> 
> 2352 -30  0.1   0.475762  0 DK7FC JN49 30
> 
> Propagation seems average, but lower noise tonight than in the last 
> several days.  Northeast RX antenna is a broadside array of three 1000 
> ft beverages with 300 ft spacing between beverages.
> 
> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
> 
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Wed Dec 12 20:12:58 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 20:12:58 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] EU WSPR Decode DK7FC
In-Reply-To: <50C91AE2.6070505@no3m.net>
References: <50C91AE2.6070505@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7aK1MaA_aQQ83=+8ihewEtUnCTud9d8KfJcOL8WUiWavw@mail.gmail.com>

Eric,

Very nice!

73, Doug KB4OER

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Eric Tichansky <no3m at no3m.net> wrote:

> First ever EU WSPR decode here on 630M:
>
> 2352 -30  0.1   0.475762  0 DK7FC JN49 30
>
> Propagation seems average, but lower noise tonight than in the last
> several days.  Northeast RX antenna is a broadside array of three 1000 ft
> beverages with 300 ft spacing between beverages.
>
> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 12 20:15:07 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:15:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] EU WSPR Decode DK7FC
In-Reply-To: <50C91AE2.6070505@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <1355361307.86782.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Hey Eric:  Cool beans on the EU decode.. I've been trying off, and on
for a few days to decode Stefan, buuuuut, just not enough antenna on
my end...

> Northeast RX antenna is a broadside array of three 1000 ft beverages 
> with 300 ft spacing between beverages.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 

Oh Man !!! ONLY in the absolute wildest of my dreams,, BUT !! a man
can " dream " gee, do I hear the Everly brothers somewhere in the
distance ?? .... < grin >

73 OM: - Andy - KU4XR


--- On Wed, 12/12/12, Eric Tichansky <no3m at no3m.net> wrote:

> First ever EU WSPR decode here on
> 630M:
> 
> 2352 -30? 0.1???0.475762? 0 DK7FC
> JN49 30
> 
> Propagation seems average, but lower noise tonight than in
> the last several days.? Northeast RX antenna is a
> broadside array of three 1000 ft beverages with 300 ft
> spacing between beverages.
> 
> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM


From dwilson314 at verizon.net  Wed Dec 12 21:19:12 2012
From: dwilson314 at verizon.net (David L. Wilson)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 21:19:12 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] EU WSPR Decode DK7FC
In-Reply-To: <50C91AE2.6070505@no3m.net>
References: <50C91AE2.6070505@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <03a301cdd8d8$3e12d6d0$ba388470$@verizon.net>

I wish I could see them but with WG2XKA on 1 Hz away, I do not know what
WSPR will do...

0204 -16 -0.2   0.475763  0 WG2XKA FN33 23
0208  12 -0.5   0.475675  0 WG2XJM EN91 43
0210 -10 -0.2   0.475763  0 WG2XKA FN33 23
0214   6 -0.5   0.475675  0 WG2XJM EN91 43
--
David L. Wilson
dwilson314 at verizon.net


> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-
> bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Eric Tichansky
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 7:02 PM
> To: 600mrg at w7ekb.com; lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Lowfer] EU WSPR Decode DK7FC
> 
> First ever EU WSPR decode here on 630M:
> 
> 2352 -30  0.1   0.475762  0 DK7FC JN49 30
> 
> Propagation seems average, but lower noise tonight than in the last
several
> days.  Northeast RX antenna is a broadside array of three 1000 ft
beverages
> with 300 ft spacing between beverages.
> 
> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Wed Dec 12 21:25:20 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 21:25:20 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Back on WSPR...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W3066B566E92CB6D685DCB2AC4E0@phx.gbl>





WE6XGR back on 498 dial-499.5 Tx freq hope still have some decoders left out there! Bob 		 	   		  

From dwilson314 at verizon.net  Wed Dec 12 21:51:00 2012
From: dwilson314 at verizon.net (David L. Wilson)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 21:51:00 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Back on WSPR...
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W3066B566E92CB6D685DCB2AC4E0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W3066B566E92CB6D685DCB2AC4E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <03a501cdd8dc$af5f3730$0e1da590$@verizon.net>

498 dial-499.5 Tx WSPR seen in Fredericksburg, VA
0232  10 -0.9   0.499500  0 WE6XGR FN12 47
0234   8 -1.0   0.499500  0 WE6XGR FN12 47
0236   6 -0.0   0.499500  0 WE6XGR FN12 47
0238   7 -1.2   0.499500  0 WE6XGR FN12 47
0240   7 -0.9   0.499500  0 WE6XGR FN12 47
0242   9 -1.0   0.499500  0 WE6XGR FN12 47
0244   8 -1.0   0.499500  0 WE6XGR FN12 47

--
David L. Wilson
dwilson314 at verizon.net


> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-
> bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob Raide
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:25 PM
> To: Bob Raide
> Subject: [Lowfer] Back on WSPR...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> WE6XGR back on 498 dial-499.5 Tx freq hope still have some decoders left
out
> there! Bob
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 13 02:01:16 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 02:01:16 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR Tonite...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W42A7558257C0E462A1D73EAC4E0@phx.gbl>



WE6XGR NY had another good decode night on 498 Dial/499.5 Tx. Had a 160 meter AM fone sked at 0100 for a little over an hour. Came back to 500 and stations were waiting to continue pounding out decodes.
Thanks to 12 stations decoding nearly 400 decodes;
VE7BDQ
VE6OG
F59706 [FRANCE]
WA6MPG
WA3TTS
W3NF
F4DTL
DL-SWL [GERMANY]
G8HUH
G0KTN
K3SIW
KB4OER
Hope we can all do it again tomorrow nite again-Bob
  		 	   		  

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Thu Dec 13 05:42:50 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 05:42:50 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] last night
Message-ID: <CABP+t7Y-h9KJXMmgrwc=xso+jd1NCVLWYqmSxKqnqBrkQ3CZuA@mail.gmail.com>

Conditions were decent with minimal QRN. Decoded most (all?) of the MF USA
active WSPR stations.

Had a 2nd receiver monitoring 185.3 QRSS. SJ was consistently good copy
most of the night. Got one copyable callsign on WMS and a couple on TAG.

73, Doug KB4OER

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 13 08:07:24 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 07:07:24 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] last night
Message-ID: <50C9D30C.4080902@sbcglobal.net>

Doug, noticed the record activity on 500 kHz WSPR last night too. In 
fact, 3 stations are still doing well this morning at local sunrise: 
WE2XGR/2, WG2XJM, and WG2XIQ. They were joined last night by WF2XXQ, 
WG2XKA, and WE6XGR for a total of 6 US stations I'm aware of. Also, 
WG2XJM snagged a decode from DK7FC.

Also noted the 3 stations you copied at the lowfer watering hole, but 
not very good copy here. SJ was in there the longest, then WMS, then TAG.

518 kHz Navtex decodes after 0830Z were pretty normal. Got the 3 US west 
coast stations, but nothing from Greenland.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From w0yse.7 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 12 19:53:16 2012
From: w0yse.7 at gmail.com (Neil Klagge)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:53:16 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] [600MRG] EU WSPR Decode DK7FC
In-Reply-To: <50C91AE2.6070505@no3m.net>
References: <50C91AE2.6070505@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <6869453F-1F15-47CF-A81F-972445D87282@gmail.com>

Awesome,Eric!!  Congrats. 

Sent from Neil's iPhone

On Dec 12, 2012, at 17:01, Eric Tichansky <no3m at no3m.net> wrote:

> First ever EU WSPR decode here on 630M:
> 
> 2352 -30  0.1   0.475762  0 DK7FC JN49 30
> 
> Propagation seems average, but lower noise tonight than in the last several days.  Northeast RX antenna is a broadside array of three 1000 ft beverages with 300 ft spacing between beverages.
> 
> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Thu Dec 13 16:18:36 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:18:36 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] More Heath HD-1420 Tinkering....
Message-ID: <E461BCCB8051459DA9B9EAC835E2987E@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All:  Contunued tinkering with this HD-1420 converter.  Not sure if I mentioned on a previous post, but it turns out there is no output matching from the MC1496 active mixer in the HD-1420.  Data sheet says this IC has an output impedance of about 40K....the resistor biasing used may have some effect on that (my personal guess, anyone have an informed opinion?). Mixer is run single ended, which is a shame to give up the DBM isolation improvement potential. Anyway, for a test I decided to try a 10.5:1 BN73 transformer on the mixer output after the output coupling capacitor, and I was immediately rewarded with 3~4 S units of improved IF signal level.  The transformer on the IF output also appears to have improved the RF to IF mixer isolation. Previously, there was always some slight hint of 75m signals present with strong 75m stations.  That changed as I dialed the IF up an a 75M AM station that was full scale S reading on my FT-847 and HF vertical, yet no IF leakage at all on the same IF frequency through the EWE ant>HD-1420>FT-817---nice to see a SWAG attempt at impedance matching actual do what the textbooks say and see the improved port-to-port isolation as well as improved converter gain.

Next I decided to poke and prod at the LPF between the mixer and preamp.  The HD-1420 performance seems to roll off gradually above 430 kHz or so, and more sharply at the 600m band. Since I run an external BC LPF in front of the converter, I tried pulling the 680pf SM caps in the filter and replaced them with 560pfs.  That brought up the AM band signals somewhat---some where s9+20, so I tacked on a extra 47pf to get into the 610 pf range which kept the strongest AM stations S9 to S9+10.  I'm going back to the 560pf caps tho, as the filter roll off seems to be attenuating the 600M band at 610pf.

So I popped the lid on the HD-1420 this afternoon to make that change and decided to pull the LPF inductors and measure them. They are marked Blue-Grey-Brown---680uh. BUT, my LCR meter shows them in the 435~440 uH range.  At first I thought my meter might be off---but I happened to have five 120uh molded chokes in my parts bin. Each measured close to 120uH, so I tack-soldered them all in series and came up with 578uh---4% off of 600uH---so my meter is not suspect---but those three inductors in the HD-1420 sure are......

Time for me to model that filter and figure out what's going on.   Moral of the story is to measure everything possible.  I'm heading back to the bench to put the converter back together for another evening of WSPR on 600m. I ran my FT-847 on 600m last night with many more decodes than what the HD-1420 allowed on prior nights.....although the HD1420 is working fairly well from 50 to 400 kHz or so....and decent on 137kHz on QRSS60 Sunday evening.  Thanks for listening.....

73  Mike wa3tts

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 13 16:52:59 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:52:59 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR starts at 2230Z...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W16FA414EEA99D33237B2A9AC4E0@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR NY on usual 498 Dial freq-499.5 Tx till at least 0500Z-any and all decodes appreciated-Bob 		 	   		  

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Thu Dec 13 16:59:18 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:59:18 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] HD-1420 more tinkering--Sorry, here's with stops....
Message-ID: <79181ED282AB4A30AE93A24B612057D1@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All: 

Contunued tinkering with this HD-1420 converter. Not sure if I mentioned on a previous post, 
but it turns out there is no output matching from the MC1496 active mixer in the HD-1420. Data
 sheet says this IC has an output impedance of about 40K....the resistor biasing used may have 
some effect on that (my personal guess, anyone have an informed opinion?). Mixer is run
 single ended, which is a shame to give up the DBM isolation improvement potential. Anyway, for
 a test I decided to try a 10.5:1 BN73 transformer on the mixer output after the output coupling
 capacitor, and I was immediately rewarded with 3~4 S units of improved IF signal level. 
The transformer on the IF output also appears to have improved the RF to IF mixer isolation.
 Previously, there was always some slight hint of 75m signals present with strong 75m stations. 
That changed as I dialed the IF up an a 75M AM station that was full scale S reading on my FT-847
 and HF vertical, yet no IF leakage at all on the same IF frequency through the EWE ant>HD-1420>FT-817---
nice to see a SWAG attempt at impedance matching actual do what the textbooks say and see 
the improved port-to-port isolation as well as improved converter gain.


Next I decided to poke and prod at the LPF between the mixer and preamp. The HD-1420 performance 
seems to roll off gradually above 430 kHz or so, and more sharply at the 600m band. Since I run an
 external BC LPF in front of the converter, I tried pulling the 680pf SM caps in the filter and replaced 
them with 560pfs. That brought up the AM band signals somewhat---some where s9+20, so I tacked 
on a extra 47pf to get into the 610 pf range which kept the strongest AM stations S9 to S9+10. I'm going
 back to the 560pf caps tho, as the filter roll off seems to be attenuating the 600M band at 610pf.

So I popped the lid on the HD-1420 this afternoon to make that change and decided to pull the LPF 
inductors and measure them. They are marked Blue-Grey-Brown---680uh. BUT, my LCR meter shows
 them in the 435~440 uH range. At first I thought my meter might be off---but I happened to have five 120uh
 molded chokes in my parts bin. Each measured close to 120uH, so I tack-soldered them all in series and
 came up with 578uh---4% off of 600uH---so my meter is not suspect---but those three inductors in the
 HD-1420 sure are......

Time for me to model that filter and figure out what's going on. Moral of the story is to measure 
everything possible. I'm heading back to the bench to put the converter back together for another evening
 of WSPR on 600m. I ran my FT-847 on 600m last night with many more decodes than what the HD-1420
 allowed on prior nights.....although the HD1420 is working fairly well from 50 to 400 kHz or so....and decent
 on 137kHz on QRSS60 Sunday evening. Thanks for listening.....

73 Mike wa3tts

From k5wms at centurytel.net  Thu Dec 13 17:14:52 2012
From: k5wms at centurytel.net (Paul Daulton)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 22:14:52 GMT
Subject: [Lowfer] last night
Message-ID: <20121213171452.riz4bh9735340w80@webmail2.centurytel.net>

Thanks to Doug and Garry for reports. 
Paul k5wms

Quoting "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com>:
> Conditions were decent with minimal QRN. Decoded most (all?) of the MF USA
> active WSPR stations. 
>
> Had a 2nd receiver monitoring 185.3 QRSS. SJ was consistently good copy
> most of the night. Got one copyable callsign on WMS and a couple on TAG. 
>
> 73, Doug KB4OER
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Jacksonville,Ar 72076
em34wu


From dwilson314 at verizon.net  Thu Dec 13 23:08:21 2012
From: dwilson314 at verizon.net (David L. Wilson)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 23:08:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] EU WSPR Decode DK7FC
In-Reply-To: <03a301cdd8d8$3e12d6d0$ba388470$@verizon.net>
References: <50C91AE2.6070505@no3m.net>
	<03a301cdd8d8$3e12d6d0$ba388470$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <040301cdd9b0$a7ff2480$f7fd6d80$@verizon.net>

WSPR tonight (sample)
0346 -28 -1.6   0.475795  1 WF2XXQ EL95 17
0348  -6 -0.7   0.475773  0 WG2XKA FN33 23
0350   6 -0.7   0.475675  0 WG2XJM EN91 3
--
David L. Wilson
dwilson314 at verizon.net




From rjraide at hotmail.com  Fri Dec 14 01:47:19 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 01:47:19 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR-Tonites Results...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W56C02678FD3B74669F06E8AC4D0@phx.gbl>


Another good nite on 500. WE6XGR collected nearly 500 decode in 7 hours or so.  VE7BDQ and G0KTN hung in all 7 or so hours of operation providing an excellent showing of propagation ups and downs and when the band opened for the evening. 
G0KTN was the first decoder tonite at just before 2230. Band seemed to open fully by 0200 and still propagating well at 0625. 
Over this coming weekend I will run the 50 watts well pasted 0600 to see just how long there will be propagation "across the pond" and to the West coast.  Thanks to tonites decoders listed below;
G0KTN
PI4THT
F59706
DL-SWL
VE7BDQ
VE6OG
W3NF
K3SIW
KB9IV 		 	   		  

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Fri Dec 14 05:41:17 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:41:17 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] last night
Message-ID: <CABP+t7aAj3EoMu2z413jcpLkpdmnXMpgmQMTScBU1JE9WcMTog@mail.gmail.com>

Checked 137 kHz WSPR but there wasn't much activity. 500 kHz WSPR was very
active, so I parked one receiver on the "watering hole - 475.700 kHz, and
decoded the following stations:

WF2XXQ
WG2XKA
WG2XJM
WG2XIQ
WG2XJR/2

Dedicated the other receiver to trying for a couple of the hard-to-get
Lowfers, JH on 181.818 and PBO on 187.198, with no real success. I got some
traces of what might be QRSS on 187.198, but no positive ID. I'll keep
trying throughout the winter.

73, Doug KB4OER

From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Fri Dec 14 06:00:56 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:00:56 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] last night
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7aAj3EoMu2z413jcpLkpdmnXMpgmQMTScBU1JE9WcMTog@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABP+t7aAj3EoMu2z413jcpLkpdmnXMpgmQMTScBU1JE9WcMTog@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50CB06E8.40904@bellsouth.net>

Thank you for listening Doug.

73

Juan /K4LCD - WF2XXQ

On 12/14/2012 10:41 AM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
> Checked 137 kHz WSPR but there wasn't much activity. 500 kHz WSPR was very
> active, so I parked one receiver on the "watering hole - 475.700 kHz, and
> decoded the following stations:
>
> WF2XXQ
> WG2XKA
> WG2XJM
> WG2XIQ
> WG2XJR/2
>
> Dedicated the other receiver to trying for a couple of the hard-to-get
> Lowfers, JH on 181.818 and PBO on 187.198, with no real success. I got some
> traces of what might be QRSS on 187.198, but no positive ID. I'll keep
> trying throughout the winter.
>
> 73, Doug KB4OER
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Fri Dec 14 10:04:59 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:04:59 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Switched to NE EWE antenna @ 1452Z
Message-ID: <A00FA2A3531345A6AF3A1C1DCAA56C11@MichaelSappPC>

Eric, Jay, & All:  Still capturing WSPR decodes from XJM and XGR/2 here. I switched to my NE EWE antenna at 1452Z from the SW EWE antenna---see how long the path holds before the absorption level rises.....73  Mike wa3tts

1428 -27 -0.5   0.475629  0 <WE2XGR/2> FN31LS 43
1428  -4 -0.7   0.475684  0 WG2XJM EN91 37
1434  -3 -0.7   0.475684  0 WG2XJM EN91 37
1442 -26 -0.5   0.475629  0 <WE2XGR/2> FN31LS 43
1442  -3 -0.5   0.475684  0 WG2XJM EN91 37
1452 -25 -0.4   0.475628  0 WE2XGR/2 43
1452   8 -0.7   0.475684  0 WG2XJM EN91 37

Modified Heath HD1420>FT-817 w/TCXO9>Acer netbook.....

From no3m at no3m.net  Fri Dec 14 10:15:04 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric NO3M)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:15:04 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Switched to NE EWE antenna @ 1452Z
In-Reply-To: <A00FA2A3531345A6AF3A1C1DCAA56C11@MichaelSappPC>
References: <A00FA2A3531345A6AF3A1C1DCAA56C11@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <50CB4278.8000505@no3m.net>

Mike

It will be interesting to see if you notice a pronounced, slow 
QSB on XGR/2.  Yesterday his signal showed a 6-9dB variation here 
over the day, with lowest levels repeating every 40-60 minutes, 
only lasting a couple decodes, then increasing again.

73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM

On 12/14/12 10:04, Michael Sapp wrote:
> Eric, Jay,&  All:  Still capturing WSPR decodes from XJM and XGR/2 here. I switched to my NE EWE antenna at 1452Z from the SW EWE antenna---see how long the path holds before the absorption level rises.....73  Mike wa3tts
>
> 1428 -27 -0.5   0.475629  0<WE2XGR/2>  FN31LS 43
> 1428  -4 -0.7   0.475684  0 WG2XJM EN91 37
> 1434  -3 -0.7   0.475684  0 WG2XJM EN91 37
> 1442 -26 -0.5   0.475629  0<WE2XGR/2>  FN31LS 43
> 1442  -3 -0.5   0.475684  0 WG2XJM EN91 37
> 1452 -25 -0.4   0.475628  0 WE2XGR/2 43
> 1452   8 -0.7   0.475684  0 WG2XJM EN91 37
>
> Modified Heath HD1420>FT-817 w/TCXO9>Acer netbook.....
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From j_molnar at shoreham.net  Thu Dec 13 08:12:49 2012
From: j_molnar at shoreham.net (WA3ETD)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:12:49 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR and DK7FC
Message-ID: <6BD3AE6F41884BEAB5D20FA990E9F319@GGLaptop>

WG2XKA will move UP about 10-15 Hz tonight - hopefully this will allow others to copy the EU.

GL all.

John WA3ETD / WG2XKA

From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Fri Dec 14 12:15:33 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:15:33 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Logged another navtex
In-Reply-To: <008d01cdba0a$c557d740$500785c0$@spectrotek.com>
References: <005101cdb981$a78abea0$f6a03be0$@spectrotek.com>
	<BABDFA22-25EC-4C98-BB6A-33EDB2E974DD@hurontel.on.ca>
	<008d01cdba0a$c557d740$500785c0$@spectrotek.com>
Message-ID: <DA89C3D3-3AAD-45F1-B4F6-705A80FD2E4B@hurontel.on.ca>

I was parked on the 518 Navtex last night and I managed to decode NOJ in Kodiak, Alaska.
For me, that's over 3000 miles, most of which is over land.  The logging is my second best,
with Puerto Monte, Chile still holding the record. 

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr


From wa3tts at verizon.net  Fri Dec 14 12:28:08 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:28:08 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM & XGR/2
Message-ID: <B7460EFCD14647F9A60E0EF3ECE31D64@MichaelSappPC>

Eric & All


>It will be interesting to see if you notice a pronounced, slow 
>QSB on XGR/2. Yesterday his signal showed a 6-9dB variation here 
>over the day, with lowest levels repeating every 40-60 minutes, 
>only lasting a couple decodes, then increasing again.

>73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM

OK, I'll leave the receiver and netbook running and see what happens. I'm surprised the netbook has not crashed by now,
 it's somewhat underpowered for WSPR......I get the occassional random sound card lock-up syndrome.....I'll keep an eye on it this afternoon....

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/wspr1214_zps7c8aa915.jpg


http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/wsp1214_zps3b9b94da.jpg


Looks like a fade out around 1650Z +/- a few decode sequences

73, Mike wa3tts


From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Fri Dec 14 13:47:39 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:47:39 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Logged another navtex
Message-ID: <50CB744B.8040706@sbcglobal.net>

Good job J. B.! I listened a lot of the night on 518 kHz and was also 
pleased to decode several messages from Kodiak during the 0930Z session. 
Hope good propagation to AK keeps up for awhile.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Fri Dec 14 16:44:40 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:44:40 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 WSPR
Message-ID: <014c01cdda44$38a52230$6d01a8c0@DELL4>

WE2XGR/2 has been transmitting WSPR non stop for over 48 hours now on 475.620 kHz at 500 watts 
transmitter power (about 50 watts ERP) and a 25% transmit duty cycle. As one would expect a large 
amount of data has been amassed in the WSPR database. Thanks to all that provided spots and 
especially to those that stuck with it for the entire period!

A few observations:

There were 29 unique stations that posted a total of 2944 spots (as of about 1400Z) to the database.

The closest reporting station was W1VLF at  4.8 km / 3 mi.  and the most distant DL-SWL at  6070 km 
/ 3722 mi.

K3SIW at 1268 km / 788 mi had nearly uninterrupted copy throughout the entire day yesterday. KC0BMF 
at 1733 km / 1077 mi had good copy during the day but with more frequenct 'outages' especially 
around mid day. What a difference a day makes. K3SIW today had very few spots throughout the 
daylight hours. There was no copy of WE2XGR/2 during the day today by KC0BMF. The reason for this is 
not readily apparent.

EU reception by EI0CF started at 2318Z and lasted until 0312Z. West coast reception by W7IUV started 
at 0120Z and ended at 1222Z. There were several simultaneous EU / west coast receptions.

Manipulating the database yielded the attached table. Observations from those on the receiving end 
will be appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

 ... in case the table doesn't make it through ... http://www.w1vd.com/WSPR121412.pdf

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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Fri Dec 14 20:23:52 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:23:52 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR Late Start...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W53403EC0A5CA2306FE5FAAAC4C0@phx.gbl>





WE6XGR on for the evening-had to work late-usual 498 Dial-499.5 Tx freq on now till at least 0600Z-Bob 		 	   		  

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sat Dec 15 02:28:04 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 02:28:04 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR-late start...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W52A0F29C3D8764E68A89BFAC4C0@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR got a late start  [about 0120] as had to work late.  From the activities forum things not as busy as usual.  However, still almost 300 decodes from a dedicated group of 8 decoders.  
Thanks to;
F59706
G8HUH
PI4THT
VE7BDQ
DL-SWL
GOKTN
K3SIW
WA3TTS
Hope tomorrow brings even better results-Bob 		 	   		  

From k2ors at verizon.net  Sat Dec 15 11:16:41 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 11:16:41 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Current Fed Modification to G0MRF transmitter
Message-ID: <50CCA269.9060206@verizon.net>

Hello the list...
        Since my G0MRF is experiencing intermittent short circuit in the 
final amp, I plan on re-doing the output circuit per the M0BMU modification:
http://www.g0mrf.com/images/300w/PA_schematic.jpg
        The M0BMU mod changes the circuit to a current fed design which 
improves the efficiency. The mod calls for a transformer primary winding 
using 12 strands of 0.3mm e.c.w. (enamel covered wire).
I assume that the 12 strands are used to improve the Q similar to the 
way Litz wire works?
         Has anyone done this mod? Has anyone tried alternatives to the 
12 strands of enamel wire?

    73 & tnx Warren K2ORS

From VE7SL at shaw.ca  Sat Dec 15 12:03:11 2012
From: VE7SL at shaw.ca (VE7SL at shaw.ca)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 09:03:11 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Current Fed Modification to G0MRF transmitter
In-Reply-To: <50CCA269.9060206@verizon.net>
References: <50CCA269.9060206@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <61643ED57A474D06BF937542D910A74D@MaynePC>

Warren - this is the same feed system used here on my Kw amp modules and 
also on the earlier smaller VE7TIL-designed 500W P-P transmitters. On the 
big amp I used line cord for the primary and on the smaller earlier amps 
used solid #20 enameled and both methods seem to work well.

Steve / VE7SL


Steve
> Hello the list...
>        Since my G0MRF is experiencing intermittent short circuit in the 
> final amp, I plan on re-doing the output circuit per the M0BMU 
> modification:
> http://www.g0mrf.com/images/300w/PA_schematic.jpg
>        The M0BMU mod changes the circuit to a current fed design which 
> improves the efficiency. The mod calls for a transformer primary winding 
> using 12 strands of 0.3mm e.c.w. (enamel covered wire).
> I assume that the 12 strands are used to improve the Q similar to the way 
> Litz wire works?
>         Has anyone done this mod? Has anyone tried alternatives to the 12 
> strands of enamel wire?
>
>    73 & tnx Warren K2ORS
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Dec 15 12:38:05 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:38:05 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR for Dec.14-15
In-Reply-To: <018701cdd662$db741790$925c46b0$@spectrotek.com>
References: <018701cdd662$db741790$925c46b0$@spectrotek.com>
Message-ID: <609ED012-2903-43CB-89E4-98ACC593F51B@hurontel.on.ca>

Hello Lowfers,

Last night I set up shop on 474.200 (dial) for WSPR and let it run all night.
The following stations decoded:

WE2XGR/2
WG2XIQ
WG2XJM
WG2XKA

One of those, WG2XJM, pretty much dominated and I might have had a
longer list of stations if his duty cycle was set at a lower percentage.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Sat Dec 15 13:30:24 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:30:24 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Current Fed Modification to G0MRF transmitter
In-Reply-To: <50CCA269.9060206@verizon.net>
References: <50CCA269.9060206@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP359686B01C18DA4E83F991E94C0@phx.gbl>

Warren:
Changed mine over several years ago..... used the 12 strands idea ( looks like about 26/28 gauge) 
twisted and covered with "spaghetti ) -- a piece of rg174  rubber cover that I stripped off.)
   Then I used  # 14 enamel on the secondary.  Runs very cool and have had no problem since.

Dex also modified his - we had compared note at the time.


Mitch
On 2012-12-15, at 11:16 AM, Warren K2ORS wrote:

> Hello the list...
>       Since my G0MRF is experiencing intermittent short circuit in the final amp, I plan on re-doing the output circuit per the M0BMU modification:
> http://www.g0mrf.com/images/300w/PA_schematic.jpg
>       The M0BMU mod changes the circuit to a current fed design which improves the efficiency. The mod calls for a transformer primary winding using 12 strands of 0.3mm e.c.w. (enamel covered wire).
> I assume that the 12 strands are used to improve the Q similar to the way Litz wire works?
>        Has anyone done this mod? Has anyone tried alternatives to the 12 strands of enamel wire?
> 
>   73 & tnx Warren K2ORS
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From no3m at no3m.net  Sat Dec 15 14:04:11 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric NO3M)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:04:11 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR for Dec.14-15
In-Reply-To: <609ED012-2903-43CB-89E4-98ACC593F51B@hurontel.on.ca>
References: <018701cdd662$db741790$925c46b0$@spectrotek.com>
	<609ED012-2903-43CB-89E4-98ACC593F51B@hurontel.on.ca>
Message-ID: <50CCC9AB.3020909@no3m.net>

Duty cycle was at 25% all evening and offset as clear as possible 
from other stations.  Only other US station was WF2XXQ running 
50mW from FL around 775 offset and WE2XGR/6 at 50W ERP up at 
499.5 kHz.

It appears your soundcard/audio levels may be overloading or 
something else in the signal path creating images, based on the 
multiple decodes per session.  There were other stations decoding 
at the same SNR without multiple decodes and able to copy other 
stations in the same session.  WSPR is pretty good about handling 
wide SNR ranges.

73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM

On 12/15/12 12:38, John Bruce McCreath wrote:
> Hello Lowfers,
>
> Last night I set up shop on 474.200 (dial) for WSPR and let it run all night.
> The following stations decoded:
>
> WE2XGR/2
> WG2XIQ
> WG2XJM
> WG2XKA
>
> One of those, WG2XJM, pretty much dominated and I might have had a
> longer list of stations if his duty cycle was set at a lower percentage.
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR
>
> LowFER Beacon "EAR"
> 188.830 kHz. QRSS30
> EN93dr
>
>
>
>
>
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From no3m at no3m.net  Sat Dec 15 14:21:11 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric NO3M)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:21:11 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR for Dec.14-15
In-Reply-To: <609ED012-2903-43CB-89E4-98ACC593F51B@hurontel.on.ca>
References: <018701cdd662$db741790$925c46b0$@spectrotek.com>
	<609ED012-2903-43CB-89E4-98ACC593F51B@hurontel.on.ca>
Message-ID: <50CCCDA7.2060109@no3m.net>

If you will be monitoring this evening, I will also try to back 
off the audio output in the event it is overdriving the exciter 
and causing sidebands.

73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM

On 12/15/12 12:38, John Bruce McCreath wrote:
> Hello Lowfers,
>
> Last night I set up shop on 474.200 (dial) for WSPR and let it run all night.
> The following stations decoded:
>
> WE2XGR/2
> WG2XIQ
> WG2XJM
> WG2XKA
>
> One of those, WG2XJM, pretty much dominated and I might have had a
> longer list of stations if his duty cycle was set at a lower percentage.
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR
>
> LowFER Beacon "EAR"
> 188.830 kHz. QRSS30
> EN93dr
>
>
>
>
>
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Dec 15 15:41:58 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 15:41:58 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR for Dec.14-15
In-Reply-To: <50CCC9AB.3020909@no3m.net>
References: <018701cdd662$db741790$925c46b0$@spectrotek.com>
	<609ED012-2903-43CB-89E4-98ACC593F51B@hurontel.on.ca>
	<50CCC9AB.3020909@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <71C10AB0-487B-425B-926B-815FD232B473@hurontel.on.ca>

Hi Eric, Lowfers,

I could very well have a problem here.  From the beginning, my WSPR decodes have been prone to displaying "false stations".
This happens on both 600 M and 2200 M, where the only difference in the setup is the antenna.  The balance of the chain is
my TS-440, a Timewave DSP filter, an audio isolation transformer and the SoundBlaster audio card in the older Pentium II.
The settings on the DSP filter are to create a passband from 1300 to 1700 Hz.  Maybe I should make the window wider?

I have logged trans Atlantic decodes from several European and UK stations, so the setup certainly does work for me, but I'd
be really pleased if I could resolve the false decodes problem.  Because of them, I've been reluctant to upload the spots to
the WSPR web site unless I'm here in the shack to keep an eye on it.  I'm open to any suggestions you may have.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From no3m at no3m.net  Sat Dec 15 16:16:02 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric NO3M)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 16:16:02 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR for Dec.14-15
In-Reply-To: <71C10AB0-487B-425B-926B-815FD232B473@hurontel.on.ca>
References: <018701cdd662$db741790$925c46b0$@spectrotek.com>
	<609ED012-2903-43CB-89E4-98ACC593F51B@hurontel.on.ca>
	<50CCC9AB.3020909@no3m.net>
	<71C10AB0-487B-425B-926B-815FD232B473@hurontel.on.ca>
Message-ID: <50CCE892.4080705@no3m.net>

John

It seems like there might be sidebands getting produced with 
strong signals in your RX chain somewhere.  WE2XGR/2 triggered a 
few also:

2012-12-15 06:16 	 WE2XGR/2 	 0.475622 	 +3 	 0 	 FN31ls 	 20 	 
VE3EAR
2012-12-15 06:16 	 WE2XGR/2 	 0.475687 	 -27 	 0 	 FN31ls 	 20 	 
VE3EAR

additional double decodes at 09:54, 10:14.  I think our proximity 
and higher signal level made the situation more pronounced, up to 
4 sideband decodes per session in addition to the primary signal.

I doubt it's something in the TS-440 unless there is a mixing 
problem that's creating close-in sidebands.  You might try 
adjusting audio levels between TS440 -> DSP and DSP -> Soundcard, 
while maintaining a non-signal noise level of 0dB (+/- a few dB) 
in the WSPR software (set with radio on a clear freq.).  If you 
are using WSPR 2.21, you might have to knock the audio down even 
further than with WSPR 2.11.  I've noticed the newer version 
reports much higher noise levels at the same audio settings when 
adjusted correctly for the old version.

If you are using a pre-amp ahead of the TS440, that may be 
another potential contributor when exposed to strong in-band signals.

73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM


On 12/15/12 15:41, John Bruce McCreath wrote:
> Hi Eric, Lowfers,
>
> I could very well have a problem here.  From the beginning, my WSPR decodes have been prone to displaying "false stations".
> This happens on both 600 M and 2200 M, where the only difference in the setup is the antenna.  The balance of the chain is
> my TS-440, a Timewave DSP filter, an audio isolation transformer and the SoundBlaster audio card in the older Pentium II.
> The settings on the DSP filter are to create a passband from 1300 to 1700 Hz.  Maybe I should make the window wider?
>
> I have logged trans Atlantic decodes from several European and UK stations, so the setup certainly does work for me, but I'd
> be really pleased if I could resolve the false decodes problem.  Because of them, I've been reluctant to upload the spots to
> the WSPR web site unless I'm here in the shack to keep an eye on it.  I'm open to any suggestions you may have.
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR
>
> LowFER Beacon "EAR"
> 188.830 kHz. QRSS30
> EN93dr
>
>
>
>
>


From w1tag at charter.net  Sat Dec 15 16:24:55 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 16:24:55 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR for Dec.14-15
In-Reply-To: <50CCE892.4080705@no3m.net>
References: <018701cdd662$db741790$925c46b0$@spectrotek.com>
	<609ED012-2903-43CB-89E4-98ACC593F51B@hurontel.on.ca>
	<50CCC9AB.3020909@no3m.net>
	<71C10AB0-487B-425B-926B-815FD232B473@hurontel.on.ca>
	<50CCE892.4080705@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <50CCEAA7.70506@charter.net>

All,

I have frequently had a problem here with WSPR on 2200M with the strong 
60 Hz related lines at this QTH. This results in multiple signals and 
false decodes. Thus far there is no cure, as the sources are at 
neighbors' houses. I would suggest not running a noise blanker in your 
receiver, though.

Note that I have generally not had this issue at 600M, which is quieter 
here, 60 Hz-wise. But there I have to live with PDM crud from a nearby 
broadcast transmitter. Guess you can't have everything...

John, W1TAG

On 12/15/2012 4:16 PM, Eric NO3M wrote:
> John
>
> It seems like there might be sidebands getting produced with strong
> signals in your RX chain somewhere.  WE2XGR/2 triggered a few also:
>
> 2012-12-15 06:16      WE2XGR/2      0.475622      +3      0
> FN31ls      20 VE3EAR
> 2012-12-15 06:16      WE2XGR/2      0.475687      -27      0
> FN31ls      20 VE3EAR
>
> additional double decodes at 09:54, 10:14.  I think our proximity and
> higher signal level made the situation more pronounced, up to 4 sideband
> decodes per session in addition to the primary signal.
>
> I doubt it's something in the TS-440 unless there is a mixing problem
> that's creating close-in sidebands.  You might try adjusting audio
> levels between TS440 -> DSP and DSP -> Soundcard, while maintaining a
> non-signal noise level of 0dB (+/- a few dB) in the WSPR software (set
> with radio on a clear freq.).  If you are using WSPR 2.21, you might
> have to knock the audio down even further than with WSPR 2.11.  I've
> noticed the newer version reports much higher noise levels at the same
> audio settings when adjusted correctly for the old version.
>
> If you are using a pre-amp ahead of the TS440, that may be another
> potential contributor when exposed to strong in-band signals.
>
> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
>
>
> On 12/15/12 15:41, John Bruce McCreath wrote:
>> Hi Eric, Lowfers,
>>
>> I could very well have a problem here.  From the beginning, my WSPR
>> decodes have been prone to displaying "false stations".
>> This happens on both 600 M and 2200 M, where the only difference in
>> the setup is the antenna.  The balance of the chain is
>> my TS-440, a Timewave DSP filter, an audio isolation transformer and
>> the SoundBlaster audio card in the older Pentium II.
>> The settings on the DSP filter are to create a passband from 1300 to
>> 1700 Hz.  Maybe I should make the window wider?
>>
>> I have logged trans Atlantic decodes from several European and UK
>> stations, so the setup certainly does work for me, but I'd
>> be really pleased if I could resolve the false decodes problem.
>> Because of them, I've been reluctant to upload the spots to
>> the WSPR web site unless I'm here in the shack to keep an eye on it.
>> I'm open to any suggestions you may have.
>>
>> 73, J.B., VE3EAR
>>
>> LowFER Beacon "EAR"
>> 188.830 kHz. QRSS30
>> EN93dr
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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From dexter.mc at gmail.com  Sat Dec 15 16:23:48 2012
From: dexter.mc at gmail.com (Dexter McIntyre W4DEX)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 16:23:48 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Current Fed Modification to G0MRF transmitter
In-Reply-To: <50CCA269.9060206@verizon.net>
References: <50CCA269.9060206@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <50CCEA64.90506@gmail.com>

Warren K2ORS wrote:
        Has anyone done this mod? Has anyone tried alternatives to the 
12 strands of enamel wire?

I did the mod and it made an amazing difference.  Can't remember what 
wire I used but it looks like Litz:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15095569/w4dex/g0mrf_g0bmu_mod.jpg

I think what I used was Litz removed for a dead UPS unit.

Initially running 300 watts the core ran very warm.  After the mod it 
runs cool at 400 watts.  I have pushed it way over 500 watts and the amp 
still runs cool but that overloads my DC supply so I keep it at about 
400 watts output.  The transformer does have some air flow around it 
coming from the FET heat sink cooling fan.

Dex

From no3m at no3m.net  Sat Dec 15 16:38:32 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric NO3M)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 16:38:32 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR for Dec.14-15
In-Reply-To: <50CCEAA7.70506@charter.net>
References: <018701cdd662$db741790$925c46b0$@spectrotek.com>	<609ED012-2903-43CB-89E4-98ACC593F51B@hurontel.on.ca>	<50CCC9AB.3020909@no3m.net>	<71C10AB0-487B-425B-926B-815FD232B473@hurontel.on.ca>	<50CCE892.4080705@no3m.net>
	<50CCEAA7.70506@charter.net>
Message-ID: <50CCEDD8.7010108@no3m.net>

The sidebands reported via WSPR came out around -22Hz, -11Hz, +13 
Hz, +25 Hz; John/EAR may also want to bypass the audio DSP unit 
and see what difference that contributes.  The WSPR software will 
handle the "audio" filtering.  The TS440 SSB filtering (1.8 - 2.8 
kHz) should be fine unless you have overloading signals outside 
of the WSPR "window" causing receiver blocking/de-sense.

73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM

On 12/15/12 16:24, John Andrews wrote:
> All,
>
> I have frequently had a problem here with WSPR on 2200M with 
> the strong 60 Hz related lines at this QTH. This results in 
> multiple signals and false decodes. Thus far there is no cure, 
> as the sources are at neighbors' houses. I would suggest not 
> running a noise blanker in your receiver, though.
>
> Note that I have generally not had this issue at 600M, which is 
> quieter here, 60 Hz-wise. But there I have to live with PDM 
> crud from a nearby broadcast transmitter. Guess you can't have 
> everything...
>
> John, W1TAG
>
>


From k2ors at verizon.net  Sat Dec 15 16:46:51 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 16:46:51 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Current Fed Modification to G0MRF transmitter
In-Reply-To: <50CCEA64.90506@gmail.com>
References: <50CCA269.9060206@verizon.net> <50CCEA64.90506@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50CCEFCB.90604@verizon.net>

Dex,
       Thank you for the information and the picture!
73 Warren

  On 12/15/2012 4:23 PM, Dexter McIntyre W4DEX wrote:
> Warren K2ORS wrote:
>         Has anyone done this mod? Has anyone tried alternatives to the
> 12 strands of enamel wire?
>
> I did the mod and it made an amazing difference.  Can't remember what
> wire I used but it looks like Litz:
>
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15095569/w4dex/g0mrf_g0bmu_mod.jpg
>
> I think what I used was Litz removed for a dead UPS unit.
>
> Initially running 300 watts the core ran very warm.  After the mod it
> runs cool at 400 watts.  I have pushed it way over 500 watts and the amp
> still runs cool but that overloads my DC supply so I keep it at about
> 400 watts output.  The transformer does have some air flow around it
> coming from the FET heat sink cooling fan.
>
> Dex
> ______________________________________________________________
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Sat Dec 15 16:47:39 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 16:47:39 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Current Fed Modification to G0MRF transmitter
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP359686B01C18DA4E83F991E94C0@phx.gbl>
References: <50CCA269.9060206@verizon.net>
	<BLU0-SMTP359686B01C18DA4E83F991E94C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <50CCEFFB.6090404@verizon.net>

Mitch,

       Thanks! Food for thought!
73 Warren

On 12/15/2012 1:30 PM, Mitch Powell wrote:
> Warren:
> Changed mine over several years ago..... used the 12 strands idea ( looks like about 26/28 gauge)
> twisted and covered with "spaghetti ) -- a piece of rg174  rubber cover that I stripped off.)
>     Then I used  # 14 enamel on the secondary.  Runs very cool and have had no problem since.
>
> Dex also modified his - we had compared note at the time.
>
>
> Mitch
> On 2012-12-15, at 11:16 AM, Warren K2ORS wrote:
>
>> Hello the list...
>>        Since my G0MRF is experiencing intermittent short circuit in the final amp, I plan on re-doing the output circuit per the M0BMU modification:
>> http://www.g0mrf.com/images/300w/PA_schematic.jpg
>>        The M0BMU mod changes the circuit to a current fed design which improves the efficiency. The mod calls for a transformer primary winding using 12 strands of 0.3mm e.c.w. (enamel covered wire).
>> I assume that the 12 strands are used to improve the Q similar to the way Litz wire works?
>>         Has anyone done this mod? Has anyone tried alternatives to the 12 strands of enamel wire?
>>
>>    73 & tnx Warren K2ORS
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> Lowfer mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Sat Dec 15 16:48:20 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 16:48:20 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Current Fed Modification to G0MRF transmitter
In-Reply-To: <61643ED57A474D06BF937542D910A74D@MaynePC>
References: <50CCA269.9060206@verizon.net>
	<61643ED57A474D06BF937542D910A74D@MaynePC>
Message-ID: <50CCF024.9020301@verizon.net>

Tnx Steve!

73 Warren

On 12/15/2012 12:03 PM, VE7SL at shaw.ca wrote:
> Warren - this is the same feed system used here on my Kw amp modules and
> also on the earlier smaller VE7TIL-designed 500W P-P transmitters. On
> the big amp I used line cord for the primary and on the smaller earlier
> amps used solid #20 enameled and both methods seem to work well.
>
> Steve / VE7SL
>
>
> Steve
>> Hello the list...
>>        Since my G0MRF is experiencing intermittent short circuit in
>> the final amp, I plan on re-doing the output circuit per the M0BMU
>> modification:
>> http://www.g0mrf.com/images/300w/PA_schematic.jpg
>>        The M0BMU mod changes the circuit to a current fed design which
>> improves the efficiency. The mod calls for a transformer primary
>> winding using 12 strands of 0.3mm e.c.w. (enamel covered wire).
>> I assume that the 12 strands are used to improve the Q similar to the
>> way Litz wire works?
>>         Has anyone done this mod? Has anyone tried alternatives to the
>> 12 strands of enamel wire?
>>
>>    73 & tnx Warren K2ORS
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> Lowfer mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
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>
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From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Sat Dec 15 17:03:23 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 22:03:23 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer]  WSPR for Dec.14-15
In-Reply-To: <50CCEDD8.7010108@no3m.net>
References: <018701cdd662$db741790$925c46b0$@spectrotek.com>	<609ED012-2903-43CB-89E4-98ACC593F51B@hurontel.on.ca>	<50CCC9AB.3020909@no3m.net>	<71C10AB0-487B-425B-926B-815FD232B473@hurontel.on.ca>	<50CCE892.4080705@no3m.net>
	<50CCEAA7.70506@charter.net> <50CCEDD8.7010108@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <50CCF3AB.6090906@bellsouth.net>

Hi Eric!

  2012-12-15 21:52 	 WG2XJM 	 0.475673 	 -26 	 0 	 EN91wr 	 20 
  WF2XXQ 	 EL95tq 	 1784 	 181


Great decode this early in the afternoon.

I have moved my transmit freq to the very upper limit of the band to 
stay away from the bigger signals in the East. Last night I decoded all 
the stations that were transmitting, but in spite of the excellent 
conditions my weak signal was not decoded most of the night (like it 
usually is), although there were many listeners...

I hope it will be better this evening.

Regards and 73

Juan /K4LCD -WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/


On 12/15/2012 9:38 PM, Eric NO3M wrote:
> The sidebands reported via WSPR came out around -22Hz, -11Hz, +13 Hz, 
> +25 Hz; John/EAR may also want to bypass the audio DSP unit and see 
> what difference that contributes.  The WSPR software will handle the 
> "audio" filtering.  The TS440 SSB filtering (1.8 - 2.8 kHz) should be 
> fine unless you have overloading signals outside of the WSPR "window" 
> causing receiver blocking/de-sense.
>
> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
>
> On 12/15/12 16:24, John Andrews wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> I have frequently had a problem here with WSPR on 2200M with the 
>> strong 60 Hz related lines at this QTH. This results in multiple 
>> signals and false decodes. Thus far there is no cure, as the sources 
>> are at neighbors' houses. I would suggest not running a noise blanker 
>> in your receiver, though.
>>
>> Note that I have generally not had this issue at 600M, which is 
>> quieter here, 60 Hz-wise. But there I have to live with PDM crud from 
>> a nearby broadcast transmitter. Guess you can't have everything...
>>
>> John, W1TAG
>>
>>
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Dec 15 18:12:40 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:12:40 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR for Dec.14-15
In-Reply-To: <50CCEAA7.70506@charter.net>
References: <018701cdd662$db741790$925c46b0$@spectrotek.com>
	<609ED012-2903-43CB-89E4-98ACC593F51B@hurontel.on.ca>
	<50CCC9AB.3020909@no3m.net>
	<71C10AB0-487B-425B-926B-815FD232B473@hurontel.on.ca>
	<50CCE892.4080705@no3m.net> <50CCEAA7.70506@charter.net>
Message-ID: <F48D7F14-7C7A-4B3E-A605-EE7D8416EFA2@hurontel.on.ca>

> I would suggest not running a noise blanker in your receiver, though.

John, Lowfers,

I did have the noise blanker turned on, but it is now off and I'll see how the decodes do tonight.
Thanks for the suggestion.  I do not use a preamp on the 600 M antenna, which is a delta loop
with a 333 ft. perimeter, but there is one on the 2200 M VE7SL style loop.  I have checked the
audio levels throughout the chain and they are all where I achieved the best results, so it's
not a case of having twisted the wrong knob!.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sat Dec 15 18:43:21 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:43:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] EAR this morning....
Message-ID: <142DA516FE1D40CEB311E3A8BCF95ACA@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All:  Nice SNR on EAR this morning, I don't recall his signal being quite so bright against the background noise.  Could be just quiet condx, but I did change out two bypass caps on the input side of the MC1496 active mixer in the HD-1420 to see if it would help the performance in the 200kHz and down range. Noise levels were between an occasional -77 peak and an occasional -100 min at the time of capture. Several days of consecutive EAR captures should tell me if changing to the lower reactance Xc values for those bypass caps were worth while....

For those familar with the HD-1420 circuit, I left the original .01uf cap from the LPF to the active mixer input in place, so as to not change the loaded Q of the filter.....


http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/ear1215a_zps3e209d8a.jpg

73, Mike wa3tts

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sat Dec 15 19:01:55 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:01:55 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XKO in EN90xn
Message-ID: <029A7867A5CC48E7BB5D5C733BB0CA22@MichaelSappPC>

Dex & All:  Great signal this evening -46 with close to -100 noise min and -77 noise peak range....

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/xko1215a_zpsc0bec4e9.jpg

I switched to the SW EWE antenna from NE in the middle dash of the "O", about 6dB F/B on 137 kHz

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/xko1215b_zps81cb25ab.jpg

73  Mike wa3tts

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sat Dec 15 20:15:44 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:15:44 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR-got computer finally working...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W60DDC14C916B56BA6E91EDAC330@phx.gbl>





WE6XGR back on after lap died.  Bad plug actually power jack ac in and battery worn down to nothing-hope fixed and back on 498 dial-499.5 Tx for the night-Bob 		 	   		  

From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Dec 15 22:03:35 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 22:03:35 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] EAR this morning....
In-Reply-To: <142DA516FE1D40CEB311E3A8BCF95ACA@MichaelSappPC>
References: <142DA516FE1D40CEB311E3A8BCF95ACA@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <885176BE-787D-481B-A53F-C2B1110AA42E@hurontel.on.ca>

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the report and screen capture!  Let's hope you can repeat it tomorrow and Monday to confirm your improvement.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Sat Dec 15 22:25:43 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 03:25:43 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - NEW WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. TXing every night from sunset until sunrise (weather
 permitting) at 475.7 KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50C90A4A.5020900@bellsouth.net>
References: <50C90A4A.5020900@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50CD3F37.10300@bellsouth.net>








*Dial Frequency 474.2 KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
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From listread at lwca.org  Sat Dec 15 22:39:26 2012
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:39:26 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Mayan Pyramid Scheme?
References: <029A7867A5CC48E7BB5D5C733BB0CA22@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <204376C06DB14D21A349D440431E6E1A@HPNOTEBOOK>

I had the speaker on and caught the CW ID of WD2XKO not long after dark, but 
I did not have it on and missed the (plainly visible) CW ID of the new 
signal...or maybe omen instead of signal, depending on your take on the New 
Age misinterpretation of the Mayan calendar.  Is this XES being creative?

BTW, MP was not nearly as good as it looks in this shot.  This is actually 
two Argo instances, stitched together in time and frequency.  The MP window 
was running at higher gain than the XKO window and then darkened through 
judicious gamma correction afterward--which is not that unusual to have to 
do when Dex fires up his backyard nuclear reactor.  Tonight, though, I had 
to run _much_ hgiher gain than usual in the MP window.  Even this afternoon, 
Mitch wasn't coming in as well as last weekend, despite the almost total 
lack of QRN today.

John D. 
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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Sat Dec 15 22:47:17 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 22:47:17 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Mayan Pyramid Scheme?
In-Reply-To: <204376C06DB14D21A349D440431E6E1A@HPNOTEBOOK>
References: <029A7867A5CC48E7BB5D5C733BB0CA22@MichaelSappPC>
	<204376C06DB14D21A349D440431E6E1A@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP37BEEF9AE8AB689C948F17E9330@phx.gbl>

Possibly a delayed echo Mayan signal announcing a special event on
December 21 ?

On 2012-12-15, at 10:39 PM, JD wrote:

> I had the speaker on and caught the CW ID of WD2XKO not long after dark, but 
> I did not have it on and missed the (plainly visible) CW ID of the new 
> signal...or maybe omen instead of signal, depending on your take on the New 
> Age misinterpretation of the Mayan calendar.  Is this XES being creative?
> 
> BTW, MP was not nearly as good as it looks in this shot.  This is actually 
> two Argo instances, stitched together in time and frequency.  The MP window 
> was running at higher gain than the XKO window and then darkened through 
> judicious gamma correction afterward--which is not that unusual to have to 
> do when Dex fires up his backyard nuclear reactor.  Tonight, though, I had 
> to run _much_ hgiher gain than usual in the MP window.  Even this afternoon, 
> Mitch wasn't coming in as well as last weekend, despite the almost total 
> lack of QRN today.
> 
> John D. 
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From listread at lwca.org  Sat Dec 15 22:50:53 2012
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:50:53 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 185.3 LowFERs
References: <142DA516FE1D40CEB311E3A8BCF95ACA@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <2EB28891D1D040D3826BF394B4BDD27D@HPNOTEBOOK>

Took advantage of today's low noise levels to try to snag both WMS and SIW 
on the same screen for the first time this fall, and more or less succeeded. 
This capture starts before sunset and ends somewhat afterward.  The deep 
fade in WMS occurred just a few minutes after sunset, in fact.

I'm not sure what to make of the SIW signal...whether there was keying 
difficulty in that one W where the dashes run together, or what.  But it was 
nice to see them both at the same time again, in any case.

Had a pretty productive afternoon on HiFER watch as well.  At the 22 m 
watering hole, the SIWs were stronger than I've seen them in a couple of 
weeks.  MP was OK, but Codar seemed to be especially bad right about that 
spot.  EH was fair, but faded quite a lot (came in quite a bit better around 
8 o'clock tonight, actually), and NC was only visible a small part of the 
time, which is unusual.  Moving away to hear whomever I could find in CW, I 
had no luck at all with WV, which is also unusual.  But MTI came in fine 
several times, GNK made it through a few times, AJO was present but hard to 
copy complete letters through the Codar racket (Argo's NDB mode showed the 
DAID clearly), I managed one letter at a time from SZX, and FRC was in the 
clear for one or two letters at a time.

John D. 
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec 15 22:55:57 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:55:57 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Mayan Pyramid Schem
Message-ID: <50CD464D.3060307@sbcglobal.net>

I assume that's XES getting ready for a Christmas/New Year's special. In 
addition to MP and XKO, NA is in there too.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec 15 23:00:36 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 22:00:36 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 185.3 LowFERs
Message-ID: <50CD4764.3040104@sbcglobal.net>

John D., looks like you caught lowfer SIW right as it ended QRSS30 and 
began QRSS60, which faded during the last dash in the W and next 
sequence at QRSS30 rate.

Glad to hear the hifers made it to your QTH.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sat Dec 15 23:17:21 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 23:17:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SJ in EN90xn
Message-ID: <E5B1DAB46CEB4CD19909594786B17CCA@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All: A capture of SJ this evening on my NE EWE HD-1420>FT-817>Acer>ARGO.....73  Mike wa3tts

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/sj121612_zps82f5e61a.jpg


I did see the Mayan Pyamid Modulation between XKO and MP Sat eve and what looked like DFCW just above XKOs freq...

From VE7SL at shaw.ca  Sat Dec 15 23:35:33 2012
From: VE7SL at shaw.ca (VE7SL at shaw.ca)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:35:33 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] SJ in EN90xn
In-Reply-To: <E5B1DAB46CEB4CD19909594786B17CCA@MichaelSappPC>
References: <E5B1DAB46CEB4CD19909594786B17CCA@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <5DB014AA01D94195A52BBDE3EEEA8F3D@MaynePC>

>and what looked like DFCW just above XKOs freq...

probably me as I am just above Dex on 137778.1 / 137778.4 DFCW QRSS60 
sending 'SL' ...still going

Steve / VE7SL

WEB - "The VE7SL Radio Notebook":  http://members.shaw.ca/ve7sl 



From listread at lwca.org  Sun Dec 16 01:10:22 2012
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:10:22 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Mayan Pyramid Scheme
References: <50CD464D.3060307@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <714F9D0EF0D1417489C0B6CAA50773DE@HPNOTEBOOK>

Good work, Garry.  Wish I'd felt up to staying out in the field longer so 
maybe I could catch NA.  I thought at one point that I was about to see NA, 
but it wasn't Joe.  It was too low in frequency, and turned out to be just a 
blip at the start of each letter from XKO.  There's a similar (and somewhat 
stronger) blip 3 Hz up from XKO at the start of each letter, which I first 
assumed was an artifact in my receiving setup, but now I notice it in your 
capture as well.

The transition between QRSS speeds on LowFER SIW is undoubtedly what had me 
puzzled about the 185 kHz capture.

I was especially pleased to see the SIW HiFERs again today.  I'll post an 
extended capture of today's HiFER watering hole at the LW Message Board 
later.

John 

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec 16 01:50:12 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:50:12 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] SL on 137 kHz
Message-ID: <50CD6F24.2070300@sbcglobal.net>

Steve, it's starting to get noisy here but your signal has been coming 
through for awhile nonetheless. Along with MP, XKO, and NA (XES has gone 
QRT).
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From VE7SL at shaw.ca  Sun Dec 16 02:13:45 2012
From: VE7SL at shaw.ca (VE7SL at shaw.ca)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 23:13:45 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] SL on 137 kHz
In-Reply-To: <50CD6F24.2070300@sbcglobal.net>
References: <50CD6F24.2070300@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <B775988382514B178EDB2DA4F45E3003@MaynePC>

FB Gary and I very much appreciate your report and screen grab. Looks like 
you have a full screen there tonight! I haven't been on for many many months 
so it's good to see the system is still pumping out power. I'm only 3/4 
throttle tonight at 700W out.

Steve / 73



> Steve, it's starting to get noisy here but your signal has been coming
> through for awhile nonetheless. Along with MP, XKO, and NA (XES has gone
> QRT).
> -- 
> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
>


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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sun Dec 16 02:20:49 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 02:20:49 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MP~XKO~NA
Message-ID: <EFC0932F9EDA4A1E84EDD5E7401A619A@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All:  My first clean visual of lowfer NA just above XKO

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/mpxkona_zpsb05f3ceb.jpg


MP and XKO were 3Hz apart and were audibly heterodying as can be heard below....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx7xBMoc5PQ

73  Mike wa3tts

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sun Dec 16 03:00:03 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 03:00:03 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SL vs SJ
Message-ID: <0DA9D140E5C74824B13269DB91C5C726@MichaelSappPC>

>From: <VE7SL at shaw.ca>

>and what looked like DFCW just above XKOs freq...

>probably me as I am just above Dex on 137778.1 / 137778.4 DFCW QRSS60 
>sending 'SL' ...still going

    Well, I was a few Hz above 185.3 kHz for the SJ capture.......I was bouncing back and forth
 between 137 and 185 at the time.....I should have been more specific....

  Mike wa3tts

From w1tag at charter.net  Sun Dec 16 08:14:01 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 08:14:01 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Mayan Pyramid Scheme?
In-Reply-To: <204376C06DB14D21A349D440431E6E1A@HPNOTEBOOK>
References: <029A7867A5CC48E7BB5D5C733BB0CA22@MichaelSappPC>
	<204376C06DB14D21A349D440431E6E1A@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <50CDC919.3070904@charter.net>

JD,

On 12/15/2012 10:39 PM, JD wrote:
> I had the speaker on and caught the CW ID of WD2XKO not long after dark, but
> I did not have it on and missed the (plainly visible) CW ID of the new
> signal...or maybe omen instead of signal, depending on your take on the New
> Age misinterpretation of the Mayan calendar.  Is this XES being creative?

I don't know what the big mystery was - the CW ID was perfectly audible 
here...

JA

From stanw1le at verizon.net  Sun Dec 16 08:55:25 2012
From: stanw1le at verizon.net (Stan, W1LE)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 08:55:25 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Mayan Pyramid Scheme?
In-Reply-To: <50CDC919.3070904@charter.net>
References: <029A7867A5CC48E7BB5D5C733BB0CA22@MichaelSappPC>
	<204376C06DB14D21A349D440431E6E1A@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<50CDC919.3070904@charter.net>
Message-ID: <50CDD2CD.8010808@verizon.net>

Upon evaluating my ARGO captures this AM, I did find the stepped sine wave.

It was a potent signal, so it had to be local.

Thanks for the interesting signal.

Stan, W1LE    Cape Cod


On 12/16/2012 8:14 AM, John Andrews wrote:
> JD,
>
> On 12/15/2012 10:39 PM, JD wrote:
>> I had the speaker on and caught the CW ID of WD2XKO not long after 
>> dark, but
>> I did not have it on and missed the (plainly visible) CW ID of the new
>> signal...or maybe omen instead of signal, depending on your take on 
>> the New
>> Age misinterpretation of the Mayan calendar.  Is this XES being 
>> creative?
>
> I don't know what the big mystery was - the CW ID was perfectly 
> audible here...
>
> JA
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sun Dec 16 11:06:38 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:06:38 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR last night's results...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W284B03C057B7CAF0A439EAC330@phx.gbl>


Had a bit of a problem with the little ACER laptop.  First appeared very slow to respond as iff taken over by a virus.  Then it went dead shortly after 2230 start up.  Turned out to be an intermittent ac line plug {cable].  Luckily had the same cable on the wife's laptop and was able to get use of it-[for last nite only].  Got a new one this AM up in Rochester so back in business.
Late start for WE6XGR [around 0120] and was a good night for propagation on 500 band.  721 decodes by 6 decoders hammering away all evening.
Conditions seem to be getting better and better even though WX still like early Fall here in the NE.
Thanks to the following for waiting for me to get back on and hanging in all night long;
WA6MPG
N8OOU
W0YSE/7
VE7BDQ
GOKTN
DL-SWL
Hope to start at usual 2230Z tonite baring any catastrophic failures-Bob 		 	   		  

From pbunn at matrixei.com  Sun Dec 16 15:01:13 2012
From: pbunn at matrixei.com (pbunn)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:01:13 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT  low power WSPR. 496.00 khz
Message-ID: <38vxhg2qw0xiwyis7dsdx92o.1355688072028@email.android.com>

WG2XCT is transmitting WSPR at 496.0  KHz.      494.5 dial.   Power level is very low.  About  2 MW

Any report is appreciated.


Pat

N4LTA

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sun Dec 16 15:15:25 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:15:25 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 Navtex
Message-ID: <001b01cddbca$15ed4380$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in Amtor FEC / Navtex mode on 506.5 kHz for the next hour or two while 
testing out amplifier mods. A number of free programs can be used to decode this mode including 
MultiPSK. The best decoder I've tried so far is SeaTTY ... it's not free although they used to have 
a limited time trial version. If one were to get interested in DXing Navtex (496 and 518 kHz) I'd 
recommend looking into it. Note that I have no connection with the software or manufacturer.

As always, reports are appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 


From pbunn at matrixei.com  Sun Dec 16 16:00:00 2012
From: pbunn at matrixei.com (pbunn)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:00:00 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT  low power WSPR. 495 khx
Message-ID: <cj2h8tfg1o682indvsxpn2ip.1355691599239@email.android.com>

Now running WSPR  on 495.00 KHz. 
.493.5 dial at  a little more power approx  100 MW 

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec 16 16:09:29 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:09:29 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT low power WSPR. 496.00 khz
In-Reply-To: <38vxhg2qw0xiwyis7dsdx92o.1355688072028@email.android.com>
References: <38vxhg2qw0xiwyis7dsdx92o.1355688072028@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7bU2w4U5TmBjjtjNTe-5pzUdggbZuPbWQ5zeaAp0Jpmmg@mail.gmail.com>

2 MW?

Trying now. :-)

73 de KB4OER

On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:01 PM, pbunn <pbunn at matrixei.com> wrote:

> WG2XCT is transmitting WSPR at 496.0  KHz.      494.5 dial.   Power level
> is very low.  About  2 MW
>
> Any report is appreciated.
>
>
> Pat
>
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From pbunn at matrixei.com  Sun Dec 16 16:18:01 2012
From: pbunn at matrixei.com (pbunn)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:18:01 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT low power WSPR. 496.00 khz
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7bU2w4U5TmBjjtjNTe-5pzUdggbZuPbWQ5zeaAp0Jpmmg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <38vxhg2qw0xiwyis7dsdx92o.1355688072028@email.android.com>,
	<CABP+t7bU2w4U5TmBjjtjNTe-5pzUdggbZuPbWQ5zeaAp0Jpmmg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <va3fuexm6gnohd5mn44dve3k.1355692679805@email.android.com>

Doug

Now at 495 and about 100  MW

Pat

"Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:


2 MW?

Trying now. :-)

73 de KB4OER

On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:01 PM, pbunn <pbunn at matrixei.com> wrote:

> WG2XCT is transmitting WSPR at 496.0  KHz.      494.5 dial.   Power level
> is very low.  About  2 MW
>
> Any report is appreciated.
>
>
> Pat
>
> N4LTA
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From k1ent at altazip.com  Sun Dec 16 16:18:44 2012
From: k1ent at altazip.com (Kent Andersen)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:18:44 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT low power WSPR. 496.00 khz
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7bU2w4U5TmBjjtjNTe-5pzUdggbZuPbWQ5zeaAp0Jpmmg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <38vxhg2qw0xiwyis7dsdx92o.1355688072028@email.android.com>
	<CABP+t7bU2w4U5TmBjjtjNTe-5pzUdggbZuPbWQ5zeaAp0Jpmmg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50CE3AB4.7010005@altazip.com>

2 MegaWatts? holy cow. should have no problem!
On 12/16/2012 2:09 PM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
> 2 MW?
>
> Trying now. :-)
>
> 73 de KB4OER
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:01 PM, pbunn <pbunn at matrixei.com> wrote:
>
>> WG2XCT is transmitting WSPR at 496.0  KHz.      494.5 dial.   Power level
>> is very low.  About  2 MW
>>
>> Any report is appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Pat
>>
>> N4LTA
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sun Dec 16 16:23:53 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:23:53 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 Navtex
References: <001b01cddbca$15ed4380$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <007401cddbd3$a69d4700$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

WE2XGR/2 Navtex now off.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 3:15 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 Navtex


> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in Amtor FEC / Navtex mode on 506.5 kHz for the next hour or two 
> while testing out amplifier mods. A number of free programs can be used to decode this mode 
> including MultiPSK. The best decoder I've tried so far is SeaTTY ... it's not free although they 
> used to have a limited time trial version. If one were to get interested in DXing Navtex (496 and 
> 518 kHz) I'd recommend looking into it. Note that I have no connection with the software or 
> manufacturer.
>
> As always, reports are appreciated.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
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From w1tag at charter.net  Sun Dec 16 16:29:53 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:29:53 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 Navtex
In-Reply-To: <007401cddbd3$a69d4700$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <001b01cddbca$15ed4380$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<007401cddbd3$a69d4700$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <50CE3D51.5070604@charter.net>

JR,

Spotty copy until near the end, when the local noise eased up. Clear 
after that.

JA

On 12/16/2012 4:23 PM, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
> WE2XGR/2 Navtex now off.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
> To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 3:15 PM
> Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 Navtex
>
>
>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in Amtor FEC / Navtex mode on 506.5 kHz
>> for the next hour or two while testing out amplifier mods. A number of
>> free programs can be used to decode this mode including MultiPSK. The
>> best decoder I've tried so far is SeaTTY ... it's not free although
>> they used to have a limited time trial version. If one were to get
>> interested in DXing Navtex (496 and 518 kHz) I'd recommend looking
>> into it. Note that I have no connection with the software or
>> manufacturer.
>>
>> As always, reports are appreciated.
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>> ______________________________________________________________
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec 16 16:38:17 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:38:17 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT low power WSPR. 496.00 khz
In-Reply-To: <50CE3AB4.7010005@altazip.com>
References: <38vxhg2qw0xiwyis7dsdx92o.1355688072028@email.android.com>
	<CABP+t7bU2w4U5TmBjjtjNTe-5pzUdggbZuPbWQ5zeaAp0Jpmmg@mail.gmail.com>
	<50CE3AB4.7010005@altazip.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7YeqZ2c5zMsY1EnR5amY2TpWVJS4QDMxm=14OvDRNGjLQ@mail.gmail.com>

Unfortunately, Pat's antenna melted.

On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Kent Andersen <k1ent at altazip.com> wrote:

> 2 MegaWatts? holy cow. should have no problem!
>
> On 12/16/2012 2:09 PM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
>
>> 2 MW?
>>
>> Trying now. :-)
>>
>> 73 de KB4OER
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:01 PM, pbunn <pbunn at matrixei.com> wrote:
>>
>>  WG2XCT is transmitting WSPR at 496.0  KHz.      494.5 dial.   Power level
>>> is very low.  About  2 MW
>>>
>>> Any report is appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> Pat
>>>
>>> N4LTA
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From pbunn at matrixei.com  Sun Dec 16 16:46:38 2012
From: pbunn at matrixei.com (pbunn)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:46:38 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT low power WSPR. 496.00 khz
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7YeqZ2c5zMsY1EnR5amY2TpWVJS4QDMxm=14OvDRNGjLQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <38vxhg2qw0xiwyis7dsdx92o.1355688072028@email.android.com>
	<CABP+t7bU2w4U5TmBjjtjNTe-5pzUdggbZuPbWQ5zeaAp0Jpmmg@mail.gmail.com>
	<50CE3AB4.7010005@altazip.com>,
	<CABP+t7YeqZ2c5zMsY1EnR5amY2TpWVJS4QDMxm=14OvDRNGjLQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dyd63911fnpyw87h3gscigln.1355694395880@email.android.com>

The 2 MW blew out the two TO92 output transistors on my phasing converter . I'm using a cellphone and I have very fat fingers.

I have a new phasing converter for wspr only and I am testing it. Seems to work. No decodes though. Have it hooked to a test 10 watt amp putting out about 5 watts. Lots of things that might not work. Clip lead paradise.

Pat

"Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:


Unfortunately, Pat's antenna melted.

On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Kent Andersen <k1ent at altazip.com> wrote:

> 2 MegaWatts? holy cow. should have no problem!
>
> On 12/16/2012 2:09 PM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
>
>> 2 MW?
>>
>> Trying now. :-)
>>
>> 73 de KB4OER
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:01 PM, pbunn <pbunn at matrixei.com> wrote:
>>
>>  WG2XCT is transmitting WSPR at 496.0  KHz.      494.5 dial.   Power level
>>> is very low.  About  2 MW
>>>
>>> Any report is appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> Pat
>>>
>>> N4LTA
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sun Dec 16 16:50:38 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:50:38 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 Navtex
References: <001b01cddbca$15ed4380$6401a8c0@JAYDELL><007401cddbd3$a69d4700$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<50CE3D51.5070604@charter.net>
Message-ID: <000e01cddbd7$637695e0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

JA

Thanks for the report. Got tired of chasing resonance with the variometer ... ice is building up on 
the tophat.

JR


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag at charter.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 Navtex


> JR,
>
> Spotty copy until near the end, when the local noise eased up. Clear after that.
>
> JA
>
> On 12/16/2012 4:23 PM, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
>> WE2XGR/2 Navtex now off.
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
>> To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 3:15 PM
>> Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/2 Navtex
>>
>>
>>> WE2XGR/2 will be transmitting in Amtor FEC / Navtex mode on 506.5 kHz
>>> for the next hour or two while testing out amplifier mods. A number of
>>> free programs can be used to decode this mode including MultiPSK. The
>>> best decoder I've tried so far is SeaTTY ... it's not free although
>>> they used to have a limited time trial version. If one were to get
>>> interested in DXing Navtex (496 and 518 kHz) I'd recommend looking
>>> into it. Note that I have no connection with the software or
>>> manufacturer.
>>>
>>> As always, reports are appreciated.
>>>
>>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> Lowfer mailing list
>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sun Dec 16 16:53:00 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:53:00 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT low power WSPR. 496.00 khz
References: <38vxhg2qw0xiwyis7dsdx92o.1355688072028@email.android.com><CABP+t7bU2w4U5TmBjjtjNTe-5pzUdggbZuPbWQ5zeaAp0Jpmmg@mail.gmail.com><50CE3AB4.7010005@altazip.com>,
	<CABP+t7YeqZ2c5zMsY1EnR5amY2TpWVJS4QDMxm=14OvDRNGjLQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<dyd63911fnpyw87h3gscigln.1355694395880@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <001901cddbd7$b7e5ba70$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Pat

Pse confirm frequency.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "pbunn" <pbunn at matrixei.com>
To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WG2XCT low power WSPR. 496.00 khz


> The 2 MW blew out the two TO92 output transistors on my phasing converter . I'm using a cellphone 
> and I have very fat fingers.
>
> I have a new phasing converter for wspr only and I am testing it. Seems to work. No decodes 
> though. Have it hooked to a test 10 watt amp putting out about 5 watts. Lots of things that might 
> not work. Clip lead paradise.
>
> Pat
>
> "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Unfortunately, Pat's antenna melted.
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Kent Andersen <k1ent at altazip.com> wrote:
>
>> 2 MegaWatts? holy cow. should have no problem!
>>
>> On 12/16/2012 2:09 PM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
>>
>>> 2 MW?
>>>
>>> Trying now. :-)
>>>
>>> 73 de KB4OER
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:01 PM, pbunn <pbunn at matrixei.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  WG2XCT is transmitting WSPR at 496.0  KHz.      494.5 dial.   Power level
>>>> is very low.  About  2 MW
>>>>
>>>> Any report is appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pat
>>>>
>>>> N4LTA
>>>> ______________________________**______________________________**__
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>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/lowfer<http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer>
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sun Dec 16 16:53:39 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:53:39 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR start 2200Z [already dark here}
Message-ID: <BLU162-W65CCE81B00FA7EECE7D43BAC330@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR NY on 498 dial and 499.5 Tx-on for the evening-WANT YOUR DECODES! Bob 		 	   		  

From k2ors at verizon.net  Sun Dec 16 16:59:10 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:59:10 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 510 kHz USB 9PM EST was Re: WSPR start 2200Z [already dark
 here}
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W65CCE81B00FA7EECE7D43BAC330@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W65CCE81B00FA7EECE7D43BAC330@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <50CE442E.9090809@verizon.net>

Hope to see you all on 510 usb at 9!
73 Warren




On 12/16/2012 4:53 PM, Bob Raide wrote:
>
> WE6XGR NY on 498 dial and 499.5 Tx-on for the evening-WANT YOUR DECODES! Bob 		 	   		
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From pbunn at matrixei.com  Sun Dec 16 17:00:48 2012
From: pbunn at matrixei.com (pbunn)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:00:48 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT low power WSPR. 496.00 khz
In-Reply-To: <001901cddbd7$b7e5ba70$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <38vxhg2qw0xiwyis7dsdx92o.1355688072028@email.android.com><CABP+t7bU2w4U5TmBjjtjNTe-5pzUdggbZuPbWQ5zeaAp0Jpmmg@mail.gmail.com><50CE3AB4.7010005@altazip.com>,
	<CABP+t7YeqZ2c5zMsY1EnR5amY2TpWVJS4QDMxm=14OvDRNGjLQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<dyd63911fnpyw87h3gscigln.1355694395880@email.android.com>,
	<001901cddbd7$b7e5ba70$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <7u0b0jy1cyqosao5u7vlmluh.1355695246713@email.android.com>

495.0 KHz.  That is the carrier frequency from my HP signal generator feeding the two mixers.

Pat

jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:


Pat

Pse confirm frequency.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message -----
From: "pbunn" <pbunn at matrixei.com>
To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WG2XCT low power WSPR. 496.00 khz


> The 2 MW blew out the two TO92 output transistors on my phasing converter . I'm using a cellphone
> and I have very fat fingers.
>
> I have a new phasing converter for wspr only and I am testing it. Seems to work. No decodes
> though. Have it hooked to a test 10 watt amp putting out about 5 watts. Lots of things that might
> not work. Clip lead paradise.
>
> Pat
>
> "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Unfortunately, Pat's antenna melted.
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Kent Andersen <k1ent at altazip.com> wrote:
>
>> 2 MegaWatts? holy cow. should have no problem!
>>
>> On 12/16/2012 2:09 PM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
>>
>>> 2 MW?
>>>
>>> Trying now. :-)
>>>
>>> 73 de KB4OER
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:01 PM, pbunn <pbunn at matrixei.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  WG2XCT is transmitting WSPR at 496.0  KHz.      494.5 dial.   Power level
>>>> is very low.  About  2 MW
>>>>
>>>> Any report is appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pat
>>>>
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From pbunn at matrixei.com  Sun Dec 16 17:02:54 2012
From: pbunn at matrixei.com (pbunn)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:02:54 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT low power WSPR. 495 KHz
In-Reply-To: <7u0b0jy1cyqosao5u7vlmluh.1355695246713@email.android.com>
References: <38vxhg2qw0xiwyis7dsdx92o.1355688072028@email.android.com><CABP+t7bU2w4U5TmBjjtjNTe-5pzUdggbZuPbWQ5zeaAp0Jpmmg@mail.gmail.com><50CE3AB4.7010005@altazip.com>,
	<CABP+t7YeqZ2c5zMsY1EnR5amY2TpWVJS4QDMxm=14OvDRNGjLQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<dyd63911fnpyw87h3gscigln.1355694395880@email.android.com>,
	<001901cddbd7$b7e5ba70$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>,
	<7u0b0jy1cyqosao5u7vlmluh.1355695246713@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <8dphhejy3xrveks5qa3e0441.1355695372075@email.android.com>

I moved down to get away from any 496 KHz Navtex.

Pat

pbunn <pbunn at matrixei.com> wrote:


495.0 KHz.  That is the carrier frequency from my HP signal generator feeding the two mixers.

Pat

jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:


Pat

Pse confirm frequency.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message -----
From: "pbunn" <pbunn at matrixei.com>
To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WG2XCT low power WSPR. 496.00 khz


> The 2 MW blew out the two TO92 output transistors on my phasing converter . I'm using a cellphone
> and I have very fat fingers.
>
> I have a new phasing converter for wspr only and I am testing it. Seems to work. No decodes
> though. Have it hooked to a test 10 watt amp putting out about 5 watts. Lots of things that might
> not work. Clip lead paradise.
>
> Pat
>
> "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Unfortunately, Pat's antenna melted.
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Kent Andersen <k1ent at altazip.com> wrote:
>
>> 2 MegaWatts? holy cow. should have no problem!
>>
>> On 12/16/2012 2:09 PM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
>>
>>> 2 MW?
>>>
>>> Trying now. :-)
>>>
>>> 73 de KB4OER
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:01 PM, pbunn <pbunn at matrixei.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  WG2XCT is transmitting WSPR at 496.0  KHz.      494.5 dial.   Power level
>>>> is very low.  About  2 MW
>>>>
>>>> Any report is appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pat
>>>>
>>>> N4LTA
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec 16 17:15:28 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:15:28 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR start 2200Z [already dark here}
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W65CCE81B00FA7EECE7D43BAC330@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W65CCE81B00FA7EECE7D43BAC330@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7Y4ZWbqNapYpy5tAeGUc_-45MRby52JqQmmRO50E8Absg@mail.gmail.com>

Sir, your signal is decoded here in eastern Tennessee.

73 de KB4OER

On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Bob Raide <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> WE6XGR NY on 498 dial and 499.5 Tx-on for the evening-WANT YOUR DECODES!
> Bob
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec 16 17:17:34 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:17:34 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR start 2200Z [already dark here}
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7Y4ZWbqNapYpy5tAeGUc_-45MRby52JqQmmRO50E8Absg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU162-W65CCE81B00FA7EECE7D43BAC330@phx.gbl>
	<CABP+t7Y4ZWbqNapYpy5tAeGUc_-45MRby52JqQmmRO50E8Absg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7a_-3WR6BHWcEDhUs5eB6B-UuRt7OHMY9WcELJUA6u=0g@mail.gmail.com>

And now I'm changing frequency to the "watering hole".

KB4OER

On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com>wrote:

> Sir, your signal is decoded here in eastern Tennessee.
>
> 73 de KB4OER
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Bob Raide <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> WE6XGR NY on 498 dial and 499.5 Tx-on for the evening-WANT YOUR DECODES!
>> Bob
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From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Sun Dec 16 18:38:01 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 23:38:01 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - NEW WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. TXing every night from sunset until sunrise (weather
 permitting) at 475.7 KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50CD3F37.10300@bellsouth.net>
References: <50CD3F37.10300@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50CE5B59.90805@bellsouth.net>








*Dial Frequency 474.2 KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/







From no3m at no3m.net  Sun Dec 16 19:44:39 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric Tichansky)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:44:39 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781
Message-ID: <50CE6AF7.7080806@no3m.net>

WG2XJM QRV at 137.781 (approx. 1.2 Hz from "MP"), QRSS30.  Estimated 
150mW ERP.

First attempt at transmission on 2200M.  Finished base loading coil this 
afternoon, #14 THHN on a 5-gal bucket, about 1600 uH.  Secondary 3.5 in 
bugcatcher coil used for fine tuning.  SWR around 1.18:1, efficiency 
estimated around 0.15%.

Reports and captures appreciated.  May switch to JT9-2, 136.0 kHz dial 
later this evening.

73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sun Dec 16 19:52:03 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:52:03 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Copy WE6XGR fine on a VHF a Rubber Duck
Message-ID: <0F825D2F63A54252B3E45CC1B887B2FC@MichaelSappPC>

Bob: Your 499.5 kHz signal is "in and out" on my 2 meter Rubber Duck antenna, but your doing fine on the 6M Rubber Duck......

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/braide_zps81bd471b.jpg


Oh, I did turn the FT-817 IPO preamp back on.....

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/HVLFRD_zps76ae0bc0.jpg



That contraption the Rubber Duck is screwed to is a homebrew 50 to 450 ohm coaxial isolation transformer. 

Heath used an SO-239 for the Hi-Z Antenna input to the converter.....it was a practical way to keep the leads

short and shielded......I'll let it run like that on WSPR for awhile, perhaps more useful than a string on +12 SNRs from EN90xn

I had a good laugh......


73  Mike wa3tts

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sun Dec 16 19:53:21 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:53:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781
References: <50CE6AF7.7080806@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <002601cddbf0$ea41b0a0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Eric

Wondered who that was ... see grabber 1 at http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html .

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




--- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric Tichansky" <no3m at no3m.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>; 
<600MRG at w7ekb.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 7:44 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781


> WG2XJM QRV at 137.781 (approx. 1.2 Hz from "MP"), QRSS30.  Estimated 150mW ERP.
>
> First attempt at transmission on 2200M.  Finished base loading coil this afternoon, #14 THHN on a 
> 5-gal bucket, about 1600 uH.  Secondary 3.5 in bugcatcher coil used for fine tuning.  SWR around 
> 1.18:1, efficiency estimated around 0.15%.
>
> Reports and captures appreciated.  May switch to JT9-2, 136.0 kHz dial later this evening.
>
> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sun Dec 16 20:12:26 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:12:26 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781
References: <50CE6AF7.7080806@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <004d01cddbf3$941b10b0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Eric

Showing your frequency as 137781.605 to 137781.616. While there are no assigned frequencies we've 
tended to operate on certain frequencies over the years to aid in identification under weak signal 
conditions ... especially T/A work. XNS typically holds down 137781.000. If 137781.500 suits your 
fancy it's available ;~)

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric Tichansky" <no3m at no3m.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>; 
<600MRG at w7ekb.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 7:44 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781


> WG2XJM QRV at 137.781 (approx. 1.2 Hz from "MP"), QRSS30.  Estimated 150mW ERP.
>
> First attempt at transmission on 2200M.  Finished base loading coil this afternoon, #14 THHN on a 
> 5-gal bucket, about 1600 uH.  Secondary 3.5 in bugcatcher coil used for fine tuning.  SWR around 
> 1.18:1, efficiency estimated around 0.15%.
>
> Reports and captures appreciated.  May switch to JT9-2, 136.0 kHz dial later this evening.
>
> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
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From stanw1le at verizon.net  Sun Dec 16 20:30:07 2012
From: stanw1le at verizon.net (Stan, W1LE)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:30:07 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781
In-Reply-To: <50CE6AF7.7080806@no3m.net>
References: <50CE6AF7.7080806@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <50CE759F.7090908@verizon.net>

Hello Eric,

What is your 6 digit Maidenhead grid ?

Thanks   Stan, W1LE    Cape Cod   FN41sr


On 12/16/2012 7:44 PM, Eric Tichansky wrote:
> WG2XJM QRV at 137.781 (approx. 1.2 Hz from "MP"), QRSS30.  Estimated 
> 150mW ERP.
>
> First attempt at transmission on 2200M.  Finished base loading coil 
> this afternoon, #14 THHN on a 5-gal bucket, about 1600 uH. Secondary 
> 3.5 in bugcatcher coil used for fine tuning.  SWR around 1.18:1, 
> efficiency estimated around 0.15%.
>
> Reports and captures appreciated.  May switch to JT9-2, 136.0 kHz dial 
> later this evening.
>
> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sun Dec 16 20:30:21 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:30:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM 137.781
Message-ID: <8D6B26EF6D8D45BAB9FCD150F5C79B21@MichaelSappPC>

Eric: Your 137.781 signal is about 20~25 dB above the QRSS30 noise level here, capture in progress.  73 Mike wa3tts en90xn


From no3m at no3m.net  Sun Dec 16 20:33:20 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric Tichansky)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:33:20 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781
In-Reply-To: <004d01cddbf3$941b10b0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <50CE6AF7.7080806@no3m.net>
	<004d01cddbf3$941b10b0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <50CE7660.8040608@no3m.net>

If 137781.605 is close enough to 137781.500, that works for me!  I am 
using the same exciter/upconverter/100W amp setup as 600M.  The exciter 
is a K3, so I only have 1Hz tuning steps, and the upconverter LO is 
fixed/sourced from a GPS-disciplined DOXCO.

73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM

On 12/16/2012 20:12, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
> Eric
>
> Showing your frequency as 137781.605 to 137781.616. While there are no 
> assigned frequencies we've tended to operate on certain frequencies 
> over the years to aid in identification under weak signal conditions 
> ... especially T/A work. XNS typically holds down 137781.000. If 
> 137781.500 suits your fancy it's available ;~)
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Tichansky" <no3m at no3m.net>
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer 
> bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>; <600MRG at w7ekb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 7:44 PM
> Subject: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781
>
>
>> WG2XJM QRV at 137.781 (approx. 1.2 Hz from "MP"), QRSS30.  Estimated 
>> 150mW ERP.
>>
>> First attempt at transmission on 2200M.  Finished base loading coil 
>> this afternoon, #14 THHN on a 5-gal bucket, about 1600 uH.  Secondary 
>> 3.5 in bugcatcher coil used for fine tuning.  SWR around 1.18:1, 
>> efficiency estimated around 0.15%.
>>
>> Reports and captures appreciated.  May switch to JT9-2, 136.0 kHz 
>> dial later this evening.
>>
>> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
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From no3m at no3m.net  Sun Dec 16 20:33:55 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric Tichansky)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:33:55 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781
In-Reply-To: <50CE759F.7090908@verizon.net>
References: <50CE6AF7.7080806@no3m.net> <50CE759F.7090908@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <50CE7683.90506@no3m.net>

EN91wr

-XJM

On 12/16/2012 20:30, Stan, W1LE wrote:
> Hello Eric,
>
> What is your 6 digit Maidenhead grid ?
>
> Thanks   Stan, W1LE    Cape Cod   FN41sr
>
>
> On 12/16/2012 7:44 PM, Eric Tichansky wrote:
>> WG2XJM QRV at 137.781 (approx. 1.2 Hz from "MP"), QRSS30.  Estimated 
>> 150mW ERP.
>>
>> First attempt at transmission on 2200M.  Finished base loading coil 
>> this afternoon, #14 THHN on a 5-gal bucket, about 1600 uH. Secondary 
>> 3.5 in bugcatcher coil used for fine tuning.  SWR around 1.18:1, 
>> efficiency estimated around 0.15%.
>>
>> Reports and captures appreciated.  May switch to JT9-2, 136.0 kHz 
>> dial later this evening.
>>
>> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
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From no3m at no3m.net  Sun Dec 16 20:38:09 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric Tichansky)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:38:09 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781
In-Reply-To: <50CE7660.8040608@no3m.net>
References: <50CE6AF7.7080806@no3m.net>	<004d01cddbf3$941b10b0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<50CE7660.8040608@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <50CE7781.7080601@no3m.net>

Though I forgot about audio generated CW for sub-hertz resolution.... 
currently using QRS4.08 with rig in CW mode.  Is there any audio based 
QRSS transmission software?

On 12/16/2012 20:33, Eric Tichansky wrote:
> If 137781.605 is close enough to 137781.500, that works for me!  I am 
> using the same exciter/upconverter/100W amp setup as 600M.  The 
> exciter is a K3, so I only have 1Hz tuning steps, and the upconverter 
> LO is fixed/sourced from a GPS-disciplined DOXCO.
>
> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
>
> On 12/16/2012 20:12, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
>> Eric
>>
>> Showing your frequency as 137781.605 to 137781.616. While there are 
>> no assigned frequencies we've tended to operate on certain 
>> frequencies over the years to aid in identification under weak signal 
>> conditions ... especially T/A work. XNS typically holds down 
>> 137781.000. If 137781.500 suits your fancy it's available ;~)
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>


From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 16 20:39:14 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:39:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Audio stream of 510 KHz USB tonite from KU4XR
Message-ID: <1355708354.74175.YahooMailClassic@web125304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Greetings gents:

I'm going to run my Shoutcast audio stream during the 510 KHz - USB
QSO tonite.. My noise level is unbelievably low, but that don't 
necessarily mean good propagation.. I am hearing " HNY " very weakly
in the background... If you are out of the range to copy aurally,
log onto my stream, and " IF " I can copy the QSO; you'll hear it too..

open your favorite media player, and tell it to play the URL:

http://75.136.215.123:8000  

The " :8000 " is important.. that is the port on my stream you will
connect too..  The stream is active now..

73 all: - Andy - KU4XR

From w1tag at charter.net  Sun Dec 16 20:42:50 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:42:50 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781
In-Reply-To: <50CE7781.7080601@no3m.net>
References: <50CE6AF7.7080806@no3m.net>	<004d01cddbf3$941b10b0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<50CE7660.8040608@no3m.net> <50CE7781.7080601@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <50CE789A.6000200@charter.net>

Eric,

Spectrum Laboratory's Digimode Terminal does it nicely.

Looking good here in central MA.

John, W1TAG

On 12/16/2012 8:38 PM, Eric Tichansky wrote:
> Though I forgot about audio generated CW for sub-hertz resolution....
> currently using QRS4.08 with rig in CW mode.  Is there any audio based
> QRSS transmission software?
>
> On 12/16/2012 20:33, Eric Tichansky wrote:
>> If 137781.605 is close enough to 137781.500, that works for me!  I am
>> using the same exciter/upconverter/100W amp setup as 600M.  The
>> exciter is a K3, so I only have 1Hz tuning steps, and the upconverter
>> LO is fixed/sourced from a GPS-disciplined DOXCO.
>>
>> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
>>
>> On 12/16/2012 20:12, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> Showing your frequency as 137781.605 to 137781.616. While there are
>>> no assigned frequencies we've tended to operate on certain
>>> frequencies over the years to aid in identification under weak signal
>>> conditions ... especially T/A work. XNS typically holds down
>>> 137781.000. If 137781.500 suits your fancy it's available ;~)
>>>
>>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>>
>>>
>
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec 16 20:44:56 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:44:56 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781
Message-ID: <50CE7918.1080900@sbcglobal.net>

Eric, your signal looks fine near Chicago. MP and XKO are similarly 
strong and NA is just beginning to come through.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sun Dec 16 21:12:21 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:12:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781
References: <50CE6AF7.7080806@no3m.net>
	<004d01cddbf3$941b10b0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<50CE7660.8040608@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <008101cddbfb$f3138770$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Eric

Where you're at is fine. You were peaking 30 dB s/n in 28 mHz ... a respectable signal!

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric Tichansky" <no3m at no3m.net>
To: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
Cc: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781


> If 137781.605 is close enough to 137781.500, that works for me!  I am 
> using the same exciter/upconverter/100W amp setup as 600M.  The exciter 
> is a K3, so I only have 1Hz tuning steps, and the upconverter LO is 
> fixed/sourced from a GPS-disciplined DOXCO.
> 
> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
> 
> On 12/16/2012 20:12, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
>> Eric
>>
>> Showing your frequency as 137781.605 to 137781.616. While there are no 
>> assigned frequencies we've tended to operate on certain frequencies 
>> over the years to aid in identification under weak signal conditions 
>> ... especially T/A work. XNS typically holds down 137781.000. If 
>> 137781.500 suits your fancy it's available ;~)
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Tichansky" <no3m at no3m.net>
>> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer 
>> bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>; <600MRG at w7ekb.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 7:44 PM
>> Subject: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781
>>
>>
>>> WG2XJM QRV at 137.781 (approx. 1.2 Hz from "MP"), QRSS30.  Estimated 
>>> 150mW ERP.
>>>
>>> First attempt at transmission on 2200M.  Finished base loading coil 
>>> this afternoon, #14 THHN on a 5-gal bucket, about 1600 uH.  Secondary 
>>> 3.5 in bugcatcher coil used for fine tuning.  SWR around 1.18:1, 
>>> efficiency estimated around 0.15%.
>>>
>>> Reports and captures appreciated.  May switch to JT9-2, 136.0 kHz 
>>> dial later this evening.
>>>
>>> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Sun Dec 16 21:14:41 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (K2ORS)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:14:41 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781
References: <50CE6AF7.7080806@no3m.net>
	<004d01cddbf3$941b10b0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>	<50CE7660.8040608@no3m.net>
	<008101cddbfb$f3138770$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <4ED4D8FA6CAD4810A74BA83DEAAEB908@DC66PRF1>

Jay,
Just had a good ssb qso with Eric on 510usb, no other XGR stations copied.

73 Warren K2ORS

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
To: <no3m at no3m.net>
Cc: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781


> Eric
>
> Where you're at is fine. You were peaking 30 dB s/n in 28 mHz ... a 
> respectable signal!
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Eric Tichansky" <no3m at no3m.net>
> To: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
> Cc: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" 
> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781
>
>
>> If 137781.605 is close enough to 137781.500, that works for me!  I am 
>> using the same exciter/upconverter/100W amp setup as 600M.  The exciter 
>> is a K3, so I only have 1Hz tuning steps, and the upconverter LO is 
>> fixed/sourced from a GPS-disciplined DOXCO.
>>
>> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
>>
>> On 12/16/2012 20:12, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> Showing your frequency as 137781.605 to 137781.616. While there are no 
>>> assigned frequencies we've tended to operate on certain frequencies over 
>>> the years to aid in identification under weak signal conditions ... 
>>> especially T/A work. XNS typically holds down 137781.000. If 137781.500 
>>> suits your fancy it's available ;~)
>>>
>>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Tichansky" <no3m at no3m.net>
>>> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" 
>>> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>; <600MRG at w7ekb.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 7:44 PM
>>> Subject: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781
>>>
>>>
>>>> WG2XJM QRV at 137.781 (approx. 1.2 Hz from "MP"), QRSS30.  Estimated 
>>>> 150mW ERP.
>>>>
>>>> First attempt at transmission on 2200M.  Finished base loading coil 
>>>> this afternoon, #14 THHN on a 5-gal bucket, about 1600 uH.  Secondary 
>>>> 3.5 in bugcatcher coil used for fine tuning.  SWR around 1.18:1, 
>>>> efficiency estimated around 0.15%.
>>>>
>>>> Reports and captures appreciated.  May switch to JT9-2, 136.0 kHz dial 
>>>> later this evening.
>>>>
>>>> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sun Dec 16 21:18:58 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:18:58 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM on 2200m
Message-ID: <9677A5E33D284E2F9D0563BD678E3712@MichaelSappPC>

Eric: XJM was overloading my sound card at -36, MP is around -50, I had the two of you mixed up initially, had to wait for a few

characters to figure out who was who  ....Mike wa3tts

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/xjm2200a_zps0fbb7bbc.jpg

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 16 21:37:08 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:37:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Audio stream of 510 KHz USB tonite from KU4XR
In-Reply-To: <1355708354.74175.YahooMailClassic@web125304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1355711828.77089.YahooMailClassic@web125301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Hi all: I noticed quite a few connection attempts, and then error messages,
followed by timed out requests.. The stream was working fine a couple of 
days ago, Buuut... yuh never know when somethin jest ain't gonna work right..  I did record a few seconds of Eric's transmission just before he
signed.. very good copy on him, but only about 454 miles away..

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49203948/WG3XJM_SSB_12-16-2012.mp3

73 all, and have a good night:

Andy - KU4XR - Friendsville, TN.



From k0az at centurytel.net  Sun Dec 16 21:47:31 2012
From: k0az at centurytel.net (Mike Sanders)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:47:31 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR start 2200Z [already dark here}
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W65CCE81B00FA7EECE7D43BAC330@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <NBEHKJAJHGJBPDNMDGGMKECGFHAA.k0az@centurytel.net>

Bob WE6XGR in nice shape several hours non stop into
EM37cd SW Missouri. My first ever LF WSPR decode.
73

Mike Sanders  KOAZ

Merry Christmas



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 15:54 PM
To: Bob Raide
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR start 2200Z [already dark here}



WE6XGR NY on 498 dial and 499.5 Tx-on for the evening-WANT YOUR DECODES! Bob
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From DnEMoth at aol.com  Sun Dec 16 22:02:57 2012
From: DnEMoth at aol.com (DnEMoth at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:02:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ
Message-ID: <61e3.57b272b8.3dffe561@aol.com>

Just copied WD2XGJ identify with CW on the 137 Khz band @ 02:56 utc. (9:56  
EST)

From DnEMoth at aol.com  Sun Dec 16 22:11:32 2012
From: DnEMoth at aol.com (DnEMoth at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:11:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ
Message-ID: <643b.484f4b46.3dffe764@aol.com>

Copied WD2XGJ FN42 HI on CW @ 02:56 UTC on the 137 Khz band.
Don W2MPK

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 16 22:15:56 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:15:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Friendsville Grabber on the 2200 Meter Wateringhole
In-Reply-To: <50CE6AF7.7080806@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <1355714156.91737.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

http://lwca.org/grabbers/ku4xr/

73:

Andy - KU4XR





From k2ors at verizon.net  Sun Dec 16 22:17:33 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:17:33 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ
In-Reply-To: <643b.484f4b46.3dffe764@aol.com>
References: <643b.484f4b46.3dffe764@aol.com>
Message-ID: <50CE8ECD.5030402@verizon.net>

Thank you Don!

73 Warren


12/16/2012 10:11 PM, DnEMoth at aol.com wrote:
> Copied WD2XGJ FN42 HI on CW @ 02:56 UTC on the 137 Khz band.
> Don W2MPK
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sun Dec 16 22:30:21 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:30:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781
References: <50CE6AF7.7080806@no3m.net><004d01cddbf3$941b10b0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>	<50CE7660.8040608@no3m.net><008101cddbfb$f3138770$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<4ED4D8FA6CAD4810A74BA83DEAAEB908@DC66PRF1>
Message-ID: <000801cddc06$d7ff9c20$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Warren

I was on my way out the door at sked time to lower the wire antennas. Been icing here for a number 
of hours now and the wires antennas were starting to show the strain. Should be around next week.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "K2ORS" <k2ors at verizon.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Cc: "600MRG_lister" <600mrg at w7ekb.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781


> Jay,
> Just had a good ssb qso with Eric on 510usb, no other XGR stations copied.
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
> To: <no3m at no3m.net>
> Cc: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 9:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781
>
>
>> Eric
>>
>> Where you're at is fine. You were peaking 30 dB s/n in 28 mHz ... a respectable signal!
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Eric Tichansky" <no3m at no3m.net>
>> To: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
>> Cc: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781
>>
>>
>>> If 137781.605 is close enough to 137781.500, that works for me!  I am using the same 
>>> exciter/upconverter/100W amp setup as 600M.  The exciter is a K3, so I only have 1Hz tuning 
>>> steps, and the upconverter LO is fixed/sourced from a GPS-disciplined DOXCO.
>>>
>>> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
>>>
>>> On 12/16/2012 20:12, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>> Showing your frequency as 137781.605 to 137781.616. While there are no assigned frequencies 
>>>> we've tended to operate on certain frequencies over the years to aid in identification under 
>>>> weak signal conditions ... especially T/A work. XNS typically holds down 137781.000. If 
>>>> 137781.500 suits your fancy it's available ;~)
>>>>
>>>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Tichansky" <no3m at no3m.net>
>>>> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" 
>>>> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>; <600MRG at w7ekb.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 7:44 PM
>>>> Subject: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> WG2XJM QRV at 137.781 (approx. 1.2 Hz from "MP"), QRSS30.  Estimated 150mW ERP.
>>>>>
>>>>> First attempt at transmission on 2200M.  Finished base loading coil this afternoon, #14 THHN 
>>>>> on a 5-gal bucket, about 1600 uH.  Secondary 3.5 in bugcatcher coil used for fine tuning.  SWR 
>>>>> around 1.18:1, efficiency estimated around 0.15%.
>>>>>
>>>>> Reports and captures appreciated.  May switch to JT9-2, 136.0 kHz dial later this evening.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>> Lowfer mailing list
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From dwilson314 at verizon.net  Sun Dec 16 22:40:17 2012
From: dwilson314 at verizon.net (David L. Wilson)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:40:17 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ
In-Reply-To: <61e3.57b272b8.3dffe561@aol.com>
References: <61e3.57b272b8.3dffe561@aol.com>
Message-ID: <006101cddc08$3bbdb570$b3392050$@verizon.net>

Frequency?  137.???

--
David L. Wilson
dwilson314 at verizon.net


> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-
> bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of DnEMoth at aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:03 PM
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ
> 
> Just copied WD2XGJ identify with CW on the 137 Khz band @ 02:56 utc. (9:56
> EST)
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From dwilson314 at verizon.net  Sun Dec 16 22:43:30 2012
From: dwilson314 at verizon.net (David L. Wilson)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:43:30 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ
In-Reply-To: <006101cddc08$3bbdb570$b3392050$@verizon.net>
References: <61e3.57b272b8.3dffe561@aol.com>
	<006101cddc08$3bbdb570$b3392050$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <006201cddc08$aeb9e580$0c2db080$@verizon.net>

Never mind.  Saw Jays post.

--
David L. Wilson
dwilson314 at verizon.net


> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-
> bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David L. Wilson
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:40 PM
> To: 'Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands'
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ
> 
> Frequency?  137.???
> 
> --
> David L. Wilson
> dwilson314 at verizon.net
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-
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> > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:03 PM
> > To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ
> >
> > Just copied WD2XGJ identify with CW on the 137 Khz band @ 02:56 utc.
> > (9:56
> > EST)
> >
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Sun Dec 16 22:53:35 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:53:35 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ
In-Reply-To: <006101cddc08$3bbdb570$b3392050$@verizon.net>
References: <61e3.57b272b8.3dffe561@aol.com>
	<006101cddc08$3bbdb570$b3392050$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <50CE973F.8040300@verizon.net>

136.745
On 12/16/2012 10:40 PM, David L. Wilson wrote:
> Frequency?  137.???
>
> --
> David L. Wilson
> dwilson314 at verizon.net
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-
>> bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of DnEMoth at aol.com
>> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:03 PM
>> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ
>>
>> Just copied WD2XGJ identify with CW on the 137 Khz band @ 02:56 utc. (9:56
>> EST)
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From dwilson314 at verizon.net  Sun Dec 16 23:07:13 2012
From: dwilson314 at verizon.net (David L. Wilson)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 23:07:13 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ
In-Reply-To: <50CE973F.8040300@verizon.net>
References: <61e3.57b272b8.3dffe561@aol.com>
	<006101cddc08$3bbdb570$b3392050$@verizon.net>
	<50CE973F.8040300@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <006301cddc0b$fe96f770$fbc4e650$@verizon.net>

Thanks.  I was listening the wrong frequency.

--
David L. Wilson
dwilson314 at verizon.net


> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-
> bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Warren K2ORS
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:54 PM
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ
> 
> 136.745
> On 12/16/2012 10:40 PM, David L. Wilson wrote:
> > Frequency?  137.???
> >
> > --
> > David L. Wilson
> > dwilson314 at verizon.net
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-
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> >> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:03 PM
> >> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> >> Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ
> >>
> >> Just copied WD2XGJ identify with CW on the 137 Khz band @ 02:56 utc.
> >> (9:56
> >> EST)
> >>
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From no3m at no3m.net  Sun Dec 16 23:39:14 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric Tichansky)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 23:39:14 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781
In-Reply-To: <50CE789A.6000200@charter.net>
References: <50CE6AF7.7080806@no3m.net>	<004d01cddbf3$941b10b0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<50CE7660.8040608@no3m.net> <50CE7781.7080601@no3m.net>
	<50CE789A.6000200@charter.net>
Message-ID: <50CEA1F2.4010407@no3m.net>

John, et.al.

Anything unintuitive to get transmitting to work in SpecLab?  I have 
SpecLab setup in QRSS30, RX window is capturing normally (comparing w/ 
ARGO), so soundcard input is at least working.  Same soundcard selected 
for output, but in the digimode terminal, selecting Mode -> Send 
Unmodulated Tone does not key rig.  Rig is set to same DATA mode used 
for WSPR and other audio modes, VOX on.  WSPR is also open and can key 
the rig (ie. TUNE test).  Seems like SpecLab is not generating an audio 
tone through the soundcard.

73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM

On 12/16/2012 20:42, John Andrews wrote:
> Eric,
>
> Spectrum Laboratory's Digimode Terminal does it nicely.
>
> Looking good here in central MA.
>
> John, W1TAG
>


From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 17 01:18:59 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:18:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] NA and XKO
Message-ID: <1355725139.39038.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Despite Dex's powerhouse signal here, I was quite suprised, and
excited to see " NA " coming thru..

Andy
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 17 01:21:37 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:21:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] JM and MP
Message-ID: <1355725297.47902.YahooMailClassic@web125301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Eric's first attempt on 2200 meters did a pretty good job here in Friendsville, TN.. A couple of " JM " along with an " MP "

Andy
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 17 01:29:50 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:29:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] XES and others
Message-ID: <1355725790.53197.YahooMailClassic@web125301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Got one sequence from XES before he QR-Teeeed.. Between Dex's 
keydowns, I started seing hints of " NA " which peaked quite
nicely later.

Andy
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 17 01:41:59 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 01:41:59 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR results from tonite...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W410341E807450D58DF41A9AC320@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR had a great following and conditions tonite.  Started early at 2230 and immediately got decodes from "across the pond" and other us stations.  500 is coming along very well in the propagation and activity departments.
614 decodes by a group of 16 decoders.  Thanks to the many regulars as well as some new faces that's always encouraging to see;
WA6MPG
KC0BMF
KC0VNY
K0GUN
W3NF
PA0O
W0YSE/7
G8HUH
N8OOU
WA3TTS
K0AZ
VE7BDQ
VE3IQB
KB4OER
F59706
G0KTN
Plan to start 2200 tomorrow night-hope to see ya'all stop by, hear-Bob 		 	   		  

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec 17 06:06:43 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:06:43 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Copy WE6XGR fine on a VHF a Rubber Duck
In-Reply-To: <0F825D2F63A54252B3E45CC1B887B2FC@MichaelSappPC>
References: <0F825D2F63A54252B3E45CC1B887B2FC@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7aTqnnJG7W+0t0RnUQP9--kkcBijYEJrVvvDC=QeqDDBA@mail.gmail.com>

55F ?

You keep it cool in your shack Mike. :-)

-Doug

On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:

> Bob: Your 499.5 kHz signal is "in and out" on my 2 meter Rubber Duck
> antenna, but your doing fine on the 6M Rubber Duck......
>
> http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/braide_zps81bd471b.jpg
>
>
> Oh, I did turn the FT-817 IPO preamp back on.....
>
> http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/HVLFRD_zps76ae0bc0.jpg
>
>
>
> That contraption the Rubber Duck is screwed to is a homebrew 50 to 450 ohm
> coaxial isolation transformer.
>
> Heath used an SO-239 for the Hi-Z Antenna input to the converter.....it
> was a practical way to keep the leads
>
> short and shielded......I'll let it run like that on WSPR for awhile,
> perhaps more useful than a string on +12 SNRs from EN90xn
>
> I had a good laugh......
>
>
> 73  Mike wa3tts
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 17 09:33:52 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:33:52 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] EAR and more
Message-ID: <50CF2D50.10804@sbcglobal.net>

Nice to see all the 137 kHz activity last night from JM, MP, XES, XKO, 
and NA. Sorry if I missed someone else.

As usual, lowfer EAR is coming through well on a 575 km daylight path.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From dwilson314 at verizon.net  Sun Dec 16 22:06:33 2012
From: dwilson314 at verizon.net (David L. Wilson)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:06:33 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM QRSS 137.781
In-Reply-To: <50CE7918.1080900@sbcglobal.net>
References: <50CE7918.1080900@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <004b01cddc03$85eeba40$91cc2ec0$@verizon.net>

I guess I missed XJM.  Here in Fredericksburg VA tonight seeing JM (QRSS
137.7815), MP (QRSS 137.7805), XES (DFCW 137.779), XKO (QRSS 137.7775), and
NA (DFCW 137.7769).  Wandering carrier that always seems around also in
attached if the attachment gets through.  Antenna:  26 inch LF Engineering
E-field probe on the rooftop.

--
David L. Wilson
dwilson314 at verizon.net
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From n0nas at amsat.org  Mon Dec 17 11:01:23 2012
From: n0nas at amsat.org (Doug Reed)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:01:23 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] File attachment+message text must be under 50KB total
Message-ID: <50CF41D3.4060108@amsat.org>

Hi all.

Just a reminder that on the LOWFER list, all file attachments must be 
under 50KB total size, including the actual message text. This is 
primarily because long messages and attachments take longer to handle in 
a busy server and also cost more in data charges at the end of the 
month. And there are some people on the email list who are using slow 
data connections or have Internet service that charges a fee based on 
how much data they use per month.

And just to make it more difficult... :-)
When you attach an image to a text email, your email program converts it 
to a specially formatted block of text that is appended to the end of 
your message. The conversion from binary image to formatted text block 
usually means the file grows about 50% in size. What used to be a 48KB 
image file becomes a 64KB text block, and now your message is too big 
and it gets dumped.

The best image format to use is probably going to be a low quality 
compressed JPG file. You can experiment with file size, but anything 
under 30KB is probably best. A compressed GIF format is probably second 
choice. Uncompressed formats like TIFF and BMP should be avoided. And 
obviously you will want to trim the size of the image down to what is 
critical, not trying to send the whole screen.

Another thing to remember is that the LOWFER list, like most other email 
lists, accepts TEXT messages only. HTML messages get stripped from the 
message because it duplicates the text and adds more overhead with the 
formatting. Your email program probably has a setting option that will 
let you set TEXT ONLY as a default setting for all messages sent to the 
LOWFER list.

Third item is to trim off excess text when you reply to someone and 
quote the original message. I don't know about you, but I personally get 
very annoyed when I read through a dozen emails in a row where there are 
a few lines of new text added to a 2 to 5 page string of old quotes. 
Yes, I do consider it good etiquette to quote specific text that I'm 
replying to, particularly when there are multiple people reading the 
email. But if anyone needs to read back through 6 or 10 previous replies 
to find out the original question, they should probably use the LOWFER 
online archive at qth.net to read it instead.

This is the busy season for LOWFER activity. Enjoy yourself!

73, Doug Reed, N0NAS.
LOWFER list admin.

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Mon Dec 17 11:01:44 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:01:44 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 55F??
Message-ID: <B860C851D28B496B9547892A60BB8D41@MichaelSappPC>

Doug:  

>55F ?   You keep it cool in your shack Mike. :-)  -Doug

Outdoor sensor on that digital thermometer.......Mike

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 17 11:09:21 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:09:21 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] MP has company
Message-ID: <50CF43B1.6010902@sbcglobal.net>

WG2XJM is currently sending "XJ" in DFCW just above Mitch's beacon.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 17 11:26:33 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:26:33 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] More on WG2XJM
Message-ID: <50CF47B9.7040603@sbcglobal.net>

Here's a QRSS10 capture of WG2XJM sending "XJ" on 137 kHz. Excuse the 
spurious "signal" below MP.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Mon Dec 17 12:02:05 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:02:05 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XIQ & XXQ on 475.7 last night @ wa3tts
Message-ID: <D7A932B3F79444F49F545CB71E2F7CDB@MichaelSappPC>

Juan & John (& All): About 150 decodes between the two of you (XIQ & XXQ) last night. I think I have squeezed most
of the possible performance  out of the Heath VLF converter.....

Some recent adjustments to the LPF in the Heath converter improved the 450~500 kHz performance, while using
10uf caps for bypassing on the input side of the MC1496 active mixer improved the low end performance.

A check with my O-scope found some hash on the B+ line to a 78L10 100ma regulator I am using for voltage regulation, 
which was easily cured with a few extra bypass caps. LO is clean with spec 100mv at the MC1496 LO input port. 
LO to RF input port surprisingly good (a only an mv or two)

An external diplexer on the 3.5 MHz IF converter output would likely help---but I can do that as an external unit
between the converter and FT-817 IF radio....

73 Mike  wa3tts

SW EWE antenna>VE7BPO 533 kHz LPF & 1020kHz trap >50:500 ohm isolation transfrormer to modified
 Heath HD-1420>FT-817>Acer netbook

      2012-12-17 03:28  WG2XIQ  0.475652  -23  0  EM12mp  +30  1.000  WA3TTS  EN90xn  1743  1083  
      2012-12-17 03:24  WF2XXQ  0.475726  -23  1  EL95tq  +17  0.050  WA3TTS  EN90xn  1654  1028 


      2012-12-17 04:06  WG2XIQ  0.475653  -16  0  EM12mp  +30  1.000  WA3TTS  EN90xn  1743  1083  
      2012-12-17 04:04  WF2XXQ  0.475726  -25  1  EL95tq  +17  0.050  WA3TTS  EN90xn  1654  1028  
      2012-12-17 04:02  WG2XIQ  0.475653  -19  0  EM12mp  +30  1.000  WA3TTS  EN90xn  1743  1083  


      2012-12-17 04:12  WG2XIQ  0.475652  -18  0  EM12mp  +30  1.000  WA3TTS  EN90xn  1743  1083  
      2012-12-17 04:08  WG2XIQ  0.475652  -21  0  EM12mp  +30  1.000  WA3TTS  EN90xn  1743  1083  


      2012-12-17 04:48  WF2XXQ  0.475726  -22  0  EL95tq  +17  0.050  WA3TTS  EN90xn  1654  1028  
      2012-12-17 04:48  WG2XIQ  0.475653  -20  0  EM12mp  +30  1.000  WA3TTS  EN90xn  1743  1083  

From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Mon Dec 17 13:09:10 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:09:10 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] EAR and more
In-Reply-To: <50CF2D50.10804@sbcglobal.net>
References: <50CF2D50.10804@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <D98269E0-CD03-492C-9C63-AB326AB9CE3F@hurontel.on.ca>

Hi Garry, Lowfers,

Thanks for the report and capture...much appreciated.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From jhjesse at verizon.net  Mon Dec 17 13:42:28 2012
From: jhjesse at verizon.net (JJ)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:42:28 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJ
Message-ID: <50CF6794.9060907@verizon.net>

Daytime capture of JM.  MP under it of course.

Jon WS1K
FN41qw



From no3m at no3m.net  Mon Dec 17 13:42:17 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric Tichansky)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:42:17 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM JT9-2 137.400
Message-ID: <50CF6789.6090601@no3m.net>

Thanks for all the reports on the QRSS signal last night!  Looks like my 
freq. jumped at one point.  I think the K3, despite being referenced 
against a GPSDO, has a tendency to jump periodically.

WG2XJM now QRV on 136.000 (USB dial) + 1400 Hz offset running JT9-2, 
150mW ERP.  Will leave it running all day and through this evening.  May 
call CQ tonight.

Anyone that hasn't acquired a copy, WSJT-X can be downloaded from K1JT's 
site: http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/WSJTX_05r2788.exe

73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM

From jhjesse at verizon.net  Mon Dec 17 13:45:55 2012
From: jhjesse at verizon.net (JJ)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:45:55 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer]  XJ
Message-ID: <50CF6863.2070109@verizon.net>

Daytime capture of JM.  MP under it of course.

Jon WS1K
FN41qw


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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec 17 14:20:12 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:20:12 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJ
In-Reply-To: <50CF6863.2070109@verizon.net>
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Thanks Jon - nice capture.
73
 Mitch
On 2012-12-17, at 1:45 PM, JJ wrote:

> Daytime capture of JM.  MP under it of course.
> 
> Jon WS1K
> FN41qw
> 
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From dwilson314 at verizon.net  Mon Dec 17 14:33:55 2012
From: dwilson314 at verizon.net (David L. Wilson)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:33:55 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM JT9-2 137.400
In-Reply-To: <50CF6789.6090601@no3m.net>
References: <50CF6789.6090601@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <003301cddc8d$742e6730$5c8b3590$@verizon.net>

1928   2  -27   0.3 1400.21  0.00   WG2XJM EN91
Heard in Fredericksburg, VA at 1928 UTC (1428 LT)

--
David L. Wilson
dwilson314 at verizon.net


> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-
> bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Eric Tichansky
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 1:42 PM
> To: lowfer list
> Subject: [Lowfer] XJM JT9-2 137.400
> 
> Thanks for all the reports on the QRSS signal last night!  Looks like my
freq.
> jumped at one point.  I think the K3, despite being referenced against a
> GPSDO, has a tendency to jump periodically.
> 
> WG2XJM now QRV on 136.000 (USB dial) + 1400 Hz offset running JT9-2,
> 150mW ERP.  Will leave it running all day and through this evening.  May
call
> CQ tonight.
> 
> Anyone that hasn't acquired a copy, WSJT-X can be downloaded from K1JT's
> site: http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/WSJTX_05r2788.exe
> 
> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
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From jhjesse at verizon.net  Mon Dec 17 15:27:16 2012
From: jhjesse at verizon.net (JJ)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:27:16 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM JT9-2 137.400
In-Reply-To: <50CF6789.6090601@no3m.net>
References: <50CF6789.6090601@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <50CF8024.8060308@verizon.net>

Just got a decode.

2020 6 -28 -0.2 1400.7 0 WG2XJM EN91

Jon WS1K
FN41qw

On 12/17/2012 1:42 PM, Eric Tichansky wrote:
> Thanks for all the reports on the QRSS signal last night!  Looks like 
> my freq. jumped at one point.  I think the K3, despite being 
> referenced against a GPSDO, has a tendency to jump periodically.
>
> WG2XJM now QRV on 136.000 (USB dial) + 1400 Hz offset running JT9-2, 
> 150mW ERP.  Will leave it running all day and through this evening.  
> May call CQ tonight.
>
> Anyone that hasn't acquired a copy, WSJT-X can be downloaded from 
> K1JT's site: http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/WSJTX_05r2788.exe
>
> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 17 16:46:17 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:46:17 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR starts 2200 for the evening...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W6243BF2673CFBC448935DAC320@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR will be on usual 498 Dial-499.5 Tx for the evening till 0600 if activity.  Appreciate decodes from everyone-Bob 		 	   		  

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Mon Dec 17 17:13:32 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:13:32 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM on 136.0 JT-9
Message-ID: <A15E575C73124466AB49D0BF94276673@MichaelSappPC>

Eric & All

 I got it. Had to read the instructions twice for mental orientation. Dont have the freq right yet, but that will
be easy enough to figure out....

2148 10 -2 0.4 1398.0 0 WG2XJM EN91 
2150 0 -30 0.3 1402.7 -1 
2152 10 -2 0.3 1398.0 0 WG2XJM EN91 
2154 0 -31 3.0 1407.5 1 
2156 10 -2 0.0 1397.9 0 WG2XJM EN91 

Plenty of ear level audio from your signal,

 I'll figure it out.....Thanks

Mike wa3tts

From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Mon Dec 17 17:53:36 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 22:53:36 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. TXing every night from sunset until sunrise (weather
 permitting) at 475.7 KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50CE5B59.90805@bellsouth.net>
References: <50CE5B59.90805@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50CFA270.7050904@bellsouth.net>







*
*Dial Frequency 474.2 KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/*









From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Mon Dec 17 18:12:50 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:12:50 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM multi mode
Message-ID: <000501cddcac$093a1720$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

XJM received in WSPR 

121217 2300  13 -20 -0.7   0.137500  WG2XJM EN91 20          0     1    0
121217 2302  13 -19 -0.4   0.137500  WG2XJM EN91 20          0     2    0

and WSJT-X JT-9 on grabber 2 at http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html .

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

From no3m at no3m.net  Mon Dec 17 18:16:38 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric Tichansky)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:16:38 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM multi mode
In-Reply-To: <000501cddcac$093a1720$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <000501cddcac$093a1720$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <50CFA7D6.2020109@no3m.net>

Heh... saw you were monitoring WSPR so decided to throw out a couple 
transmissions; back on JT9-2 now.

On 12/17/2012 18:12, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
> XJM received in WSPR
> 121217 2300  13 -20 -0.7   0.137500  WG2XJM EN91 20          0     1    0
> 121217 2302  13 -19 -0.4   0.137500  WG2XJM EN91 20          0     2    0
>
> and WSJT-X JT-9 on grabber 2 at http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html .
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Mon Dec 17 18:26:18 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:26:18 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM multi mode
References: <000501cddcac$093a1720$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<50CFA7D6.2020109@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <001801cddcad$ea94b6c0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Eric

So I'm watching the WSJT-X screen (based on your earlier post) and there are lines at 1500 Hz that 
aren't decoding. Hmmm. Had started WSPR a while ago but had it stowed away in the background. Then 
the signal switches to 1400 Hz with a bit more 'deviation'. Hmmm. Drag WSPR back up front and there 
are the decodes. By the time I switch back to WSJT-X there you are in that mode. Nice mode hopping 
within a couple minutes ... got my attention!

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric Tichansky" <no3m at no3m.net>
To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XJM multi mode


> Heh... saw you were monitoring WSPR so decided to throw out a couple transmissions; back on JT9-2 
> now.
>
> On 12/17/2012 18:12, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
>> XJM received in WSPR
>> 121217 2300  13 -20 -0.7   0.137500  WG2XJM EN91 20          0     1    0
>> 121217 2302  13 -19 -0.4   0.137500  WG2XJM EN91 20          0     2    0
>>
>> and WSJT-X JT-9 on grabber 2 at http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html .
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec 17 19:15:32 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:15:32 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM multi mode
In-Reply-To: <50CFA7D6.2020109@no3m.net>
References: <000501cddcac$093a1720$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<50CFA7D6.2020109@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP229472DA30241C8843BA53E9310@phx.gbl>

Well - with an S9 noise level this is what I'm getting in London this evening.
Captured instantly - and your carrier is audible.

0004 4 -32 2.8 1008.7 0
0006 2 -28 2.8 1007.9 0
0008 1 -27 -1.4 1013.9 0


Mitch  M P

From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec 17 19:19:53 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:19:53 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Copy of JT9-2
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP79884797A2C8A6E9EBB709E9310@phx.gbl>

Well - with an S9 noise level this is what I'm getting in London this evening.
Captured instantly - and your carrier is audible.

0004 4 -32 2.8 1008.7 0
0006 2 -28 2.8 1007.9 0
0008 1 -27 -1.4 1013.9 0


Mitch  M P

From no3m at no3m.net  Mon Dec 17 19:21:02 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric Tichansky)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:21:02 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM multi mode
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP229472DA30241C8843BA53E9310@phx.gbl>
References: <000501cddcac$093a1720$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<50CFA7D6.2020109@no3m.net>
	<BLU0-SMTP229472DA30241C8843BA53E9310@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <50CFB6EE.1010209@no3m.net>

Mitch, et.al.

Looks like the decodes are for random noise based on the reported freq.  
Mike/TTS had the same thing at first due to the program defaults.  In 
the waterfall window, you will see a green bar with a green marker near 
the freq. scale at the top.  That is the "decode" window.  Double click 
near a trace on the waterfall you wish to decode, ie. around 1400 Hz.  
The green bar and marker should jump to that frequency.  To widen the 
decode window, increase the "Tol" setting in the main window.

After doing the above, you should start getting text decodes.

73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM

On 12/17/2012 19:15, Mitch Powell wrote:
> Well - with an S9 noise level this is what I'm getting in London this 
> evening.
> Captured instantly - and your carrier is audible.
>
> 0004 4 -32 2.8 1008.7 0
>
> 0006 2 -28 2.8 1007.9 0
>
> 0008 1 -27 -1.4 1013.9 0
>
>
> Mitch  M P


From w1tag at charter.net  Mon Dec 17 19:23:25 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:23:25 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM multi mode
In-Reply-To: <50CFA7D6.2020109@no3m.net>
References: <000501cddcac$093a1720$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<50CFA7D6.2020109@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <50CFB77D.5020509@charter.net>

Eric,

I have had a few "real" decodes thus far, and a lot of junk. Seems to be 
the same proposition as with WSPR here - works great on 600 meters, but 
the AC-related crud tears it up.

John, W1TAG

From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec 17 19:38:10 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:38:10 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] JT9-2
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP658218CDB6B345F606BC91E9310@phx.gbl>

Still solid copy - turned off light dimmer upstairs -
much cleaner signal displayed

0044 4 -32 2.8 1008.7 0

0006 2 -28 2.8 1007.9 0

0008 1 -27 -1.4 1013.9 0

 

Switched antennas

 

0026 2 -28 1.5 1010.7 0

0028 0 -30 2.8 1011.9 0



M P

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Mon Dec 17 19:44:50 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:44:50 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] more JT9 XJM decodes
Message-ID: <A56B6306812F4C0BA4114BC31A953EC9@MichaelSappPC>

Eric & All: A few more decodes. Eric I'll figure out how to access the log and send it to you later....

Background noise levels left in there for reference purposes

NE EWE > VE7BPO 533 kHz filter with 1020kHz trap>modified HD-1420>ft-817 with TCXO9>Acer netbook

73 Mike wa3tts

2344  10   -2   0.2  1397.7   0   WG2XJM EN91                                                             
2346   0  -29   0.5  1407.2   1                                                    
2348  10   -2   0.1  1397.7   0   WG2XJM EN91                                                             
2350   0  -30  -2.1  1399.1   0                                                    
2352  10   -2   0.1  1397.7   0   WG2XJM EN91                                                             
2354   0  -30   0.6  1378.0   0                                                    
2356  10   -3   0.2  1397.7   0   WG2XJM EN91                                                             
2358   1  -31   2.2  1411.7   1                                                    
0000  10   -3   0.2  1397.7   0   WG2XJM EN91                                                             
0002   0  -31   0.3  1407.8  -1                                                    
0004  10   -3   0.2  1397.8   0   WG2XJM EN91                                                             
0006   0  -30   0.8  1384.4   0                                                    
0008  10   -2   0.1  1397.8   0   WG2XJM EN91                                                             
0010   0  -29   3.6  1385.3   0                                                    
0012  10   -2   0.1  1397.8   0   WG2XJM EN91                                                             
0014   0  -30  -1.5  1407.9   0                                                    
0016   9   -4   0.5  1397.7   0   WG2XJM EN91                                                             
0018   0  -32   1.7  1398.7   0          

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec 17 19:57:35 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:57:35 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] EAR in TN
Message-ID: <CABP+t7Y9PyzYfSj_NhPqJNPTAPCbhnp3ceUauBxu3GX34TRKyw@mail.gmail.com>

EAR (188.80 kHz) doing pretty well tonight in TN.

Doug KB4OER
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec 17 19:58:13 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:58:13 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] EAR in TN
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7Y9PyzYfSj_NhPqJNPTAPCbhnp3ceUauBxu3GX34TRKyw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABP+t7Y9PyzYfSj_NhPqJNPTAPCbhnp3ceUauBxu3GX34TRKyw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7aTVA0Yy3UOGV9za0sPckqu=0OjV+96TAzixnGy8fkuPQ@mail.gmail.com>

Er....188.830 kHz that is.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com>wrote:

> EAR (188.80 kHz) doing pretty well tonight in TN.
>
> Doug KB4OER
>

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec 17 20:02:33 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:02:33 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] EAR in TN
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7aTVA0Yy3UOGV9za0sPckqu=0OjV+96TAzixnGy8fkuPQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABP+t7Y9PyzYfSj_NhPqJNPTAPCbhnp3ceUauBxu3GX34TRKyw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABP+t7aTVA0Yy3UOGV9za0sPckqu=0OjV+96TAzixnGy8fkuPQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7ZqH+PsUttmcT0QTuMY4ubEV+ZAZL5bsnV=g8=3aQM-HQ@mail.gmail.com>

MP coming in well also in the 137 kHz watering hole.




On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com>wrote:

> Er....188.830 kHz that is.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> EAR (188.80 kHz) doing pretty well tonight in TN.
>>
>> Doug KB4OER
>>
>
>
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From jhjesse at verizon.net  Mon Dec 17 20:07:24 2012
From: jhjesse at verizon.net (JJ)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:07:24 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM multi mode
In-Reply-To: <50CFB6EE.1010209@no3m.net>
References: <000501cddcac$093a1720$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<50CFA7D6.2020109@no3m.net>	<BLU0-SMTP229472DA30241C8843BA53E9310@phx.gbl>
	<50CFB6EE.1010209@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <50CFC1CC.1070703@verizon.net>

I just fired up the receiver and got some decodes.  Got one this 
afternoon too.  But only one.
Noisy here too.  I clicked on the NB on WSJTX.  Don't know if it made a 
diff or not.
0056   9  -21   0.5  1400.6   0   WG2XJM EN91
0058   2  -31   3.2  1384.7 0
0100   6  -26   0.6  1400.7   0   WG2XJM EN91
0102   3  -26   3.1  1393.4 1
0104   5  -24   0.6  1400.7   0   WG2XJM EN91

Jon WS1K
FN41qw

On 12/17/2012 7:21 PM, Eric Tichansky wrote:
> Mitch, et.al.
>
> Looks like the decodes are for random noise based on the reported 
> freq.  Mike/TTS had the same thing at first due to the program 
> defaults.  In the waterfall window, you will see a green bar with a 
> green marker near the freq. scale at the top.  That is the "decode" 
> window.  Double click near a trace on the waterfall you wish to 
> decode, ie. around 1400 Hz.  The green bar and marker should jump to 
> that frequency.  To widen the decode window, increase the "Tol" 
> setting in the main window.
>
> After doing the above, you should start getting text decodes.
>
> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM


From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec 17 20:43:27 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:43:27 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] EAR in TN
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7ZqH+PsUttmcT0QTuMY4ubEV+ZAZL5bsnV=g8=3aQM-HQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABP+t7Y9PyzYfSj_NhPqJNPTAPCbhnp3ceUauBxu3GX34TRKyw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABP+t7aTVA0Yy3UOGV9za0sPckqu=0OjV+96TAzixnGy8fkuPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABP+t7ZqH+PsUttmcT0QTuMY4ubEV+ZAZL5bsnV=g8=3aQM-HQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP632CD9573B4C7F7E5E36F7E9310@phx.gbl>

Very nice - thanks Doug..... good job on EAR  at that distance - regardless of the frequency  : :>)
M P
On 2012-12-17, at 8:02 PM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:

> MP coming in well also in the 137 kHz watering hole.
> 
> 


From dexter.mc at gmail.com  Mon Dec 17 21:58:28 2012
From: dexter.mc at gmail.com (Dexter McIntyre W4DEX)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:58:28 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] EAR in TN
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7Y9PyzYfSj_NhPqJNPTAPCbhnp3ceUauBxu3GX34TRKyw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABP+t7Y9PyzYfSj_NhPqJNPTAPCbhnp3ceUauBxu3GX34TRKyw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50CFDBD4.1010203@gmail.com>

EAR in and out here in NC:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15095569/w4dex/ear.jpg

NC EAR grabber running overnight:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15095569/w4dex/grabber1_00000.jpg

Dex

From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Mon Dec 17 22:32:00 2012
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 03:32:00 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM JT9-2 137.400
In-Reply-To: <003301cddc8d$742e6730$5c8b3590$@verizon.net>
References: <50CF6789.6090601@no3m.net>
	<003301cddc8d$742e6730$5c8b3590$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAE89MiQv65q2TBooeCeoQ53tDvoYpidSoJ3=O_q_imqijFHTQg@mail.gmail.com>

Copy here
Lloyd W3NF FM19

0320  10  -15   0.2  1400.0   0   WG2XJM EN91                  1  2

0324  10  -13   0.0  1400.0   0   WG2XJM EN91                  1  2

0328  10  -17   0.2  1400.0   0   WG2XJM EN91                  1  2


On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 7:33 PM, David L. Wilson <dwilson314 at verizon.net>wrote:

> 1928   2  -27   0.3 1400.21  0.00   WG2XJM EN91
> Heard in Fredericksburg, VA at 1928 UTC (1428 LT)
>
> --
> David L. Wilson
> dwilson314 at verizon.net
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-
> > bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Eric Tichansky
> > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 1:42 PM
> > To: lowfer list
> > Subject: [Lowfer] XJM JT9-2 137.400
> >
> > Thanks for all the reports on the QRSS signal last night!  Looks like my
> freq.
> > jumped at one point.  I think the K3, despite being referenced against a
> > GPSDO, has a tendency to jump periodically.
> >
> > WG2XJM now QRV on 136.000 (USB dial) + 1400 Hz offset running JT9-2,
> > 150mW ERP.  Will leave it running all day and through this evening.  May
> call
> > CQ tonight.
> >
> > Anyone that hasn't acquired a copy, WSJT-X can be downloaded from K1JT's
> > site: http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/WSJTX_05r2788.exe
> >
> > 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
> > __________________________________________________________
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Mon Dec 17 22:45:00 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 22:45:00 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] EAR in TN
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7Y9PyzYfSj_NhPqJNPTAPCbhnp3ceUauBxu3GX34TRKyw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABP+t7Y9PyzYfSj_NhPqJNPTAPCbhnp3ceUauBxu3GX34TRKyw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2BF3441C-3377-4392-9EC5-87B0C7F66E20@hurontel.on.ca>

Hi Doug & Dex,

Thanks for the reports and captures guys!  It looks like the 12-13 season might be a good one
as we seem to be off to a good start.  I appreciate your taking a look / listen for EAR.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From rjraide at hotmail.com  Tue Dec 18 02:19:31 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 02:19:31 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR Results for tonite...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W39C7B36EDD67C74883C001AC310@phx.gbl>


Started off a bit anemic as for propagation.  However, things picked up around 0200 or so with near normal sigs into Europe and the West Coast.   Had 12 decoders that cranked out 663 decodes.  Thanks to the following for the successful nite on 500 kHz
G8HUH
F59708 
PA0O
G0KTN
RLS [CALIF]
WW6D
WA8KNE
K0GUN
W3BC
KU7Z
N8OOU
K3SIW
Will try again tomorrow-interesting to see what we will find-Bob WE2XGR/6 [WE6XGR on WSPR mode] 		 	   		  

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Tue Dec 18 03:20:32 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 03:20:32 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] QRP with XJM
Message-ID: <2B60875E823348E28F448A400E81B988@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All: Looks like I can decode Eric at 100uW ERP at about 120 kilometers away on 136 kHz. Plug that into your 
Free Space Path Loss equation and assume -65 dB for my NE EWE antenna signal level...according to W7EL's
EZNEC program.....great fun Eric. Mni Mni Thanks.......73 Mike wa3tts

Mike

I ran down to about 0.019W TPO.... but the ATT setup was kind of 
kludgy.

I am re-running 0.04, 0.03 W over the next 10-15 minutes.

The lowest decoded at 0.05W TPO is about 0.1 mW (0.0001 W) ERP.

On 12/18/12 02:12, Michael Sapp wrote:
> Eric:
> 0532 10 3 0.2 1397.5 0 WG2XJM 65
>
> 0534 10 0 0.2 1397.5 0 WG2XJM 60
>
> 0536 10 0 0.1 1397.5 0 WG2XJM 60
>
> 0538 10 -10 0.2 1397.5 0 WG2XJM 1
>
> 0540 10 -19 0.2 1397.5 0 WG2XJM 0.5
>
> 0542 10 -20 0.1 1397.5 0 WG2XJM 0.5
>
> 0544 10 -20 0.1 1397.6 0 WG2XJM 0.5
>
> 0546 10 -20 0.2 1397.6 0 WG2XJM 0.5
>
> 0548 0 -30 0.1 1397.6 0
>
> 0550 2 -28 0.2 1397.5 0 WG2XJM 0.05
>
> 0552 1 -30 -0.2 1397.7 0
>
> 0554 1 -29 0.1 1397.6 0 WG2XJM 0.05
>
> 0556 2 -27 0.2 1397.6 0 WG2XJM 0.05
>
> 0558 2 -26 0.2 1397.6 0 WG2XJM 0.05
>
> 0600 0 -31 -1.0 1408.0 0
>
> 0602 10 -14 0.2 1397.7 0 WG2XJM XX ADJ
>
> 0604 10 -11 0.2 1397.7 0 WG2XJM XX ADJ
>
> 0606 10 -11 0.1 1397.7 0 WG2XJM XX ADJ
>
> 0608 10 -11 0.2 1397.7 0 WG2XJM XX ADJ
>
> 0610 10 -11 0.1 1397.7 0 WG2XJM XX ADJ
>
> 0612 10 -12 0.2 1397.7 0 WG2XJM XX ADJ
>
> 0614 10 -13 0.1 1397.7 0 WG2XJM XX ADJ
>
> 0616 10 -19 0.2 1397.8 0 WG2XJM XX ADJ
>
> 0618 10 -23 0.1 1397.8 0 WG2XJM XX ADJ
>
> 0620 3 -25 0.1 1397.7 0 WG2XJM XX ADJ
>
> 0622 2 -26 0.2 1397.7 0 WG2XJM 0.1
>
> 0624 3 -26 0.1 1397.8 0 WG2XJM 0.1
>
> 0626 2 -27 0.1 1397.8 0 WG2XJM 0.063
>
> 0628 1 -27 0.2 1397.8 0 WG2XJM 0.063
>
> 0630 1 -27 0.2 1397.8 0
>
> 0632 2 -27 0.2 1397.8 0 WG2XJM 0.05
>
> 0634 2 -27 0.2 1397.8 0 WG2XJM 0.05
>
> 0636 0 -30 3.8 1403.9 -1
>
> 0638 0 -30 0.2 1397.7 0
>
> 0640 0 -28 -3.0 1403.5 -1
>



From kb4oer at gmail.com  Tue Dec 18 05:27:43 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 05:27:43 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] QRP with XJM
In-Reply-To: <2B60875E823348E28F448A400E81B988@MichaelSappPC>
References: <2B60875E823348E28F448A400E81B988@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7YdU-43w-SaYmpvcNTAUg9Y0d-y0CHO2j7GhcwfZAQUGQ@mail.gmail.com>

Got XJM a few times here in TN also.

73, Doug KB4OER

2012-12-18 05:20 WG2XJM 0.137501 -12 0 EN91wr 0.2 KB4OER EM86ui 626
198 2012-12-18
05:18 WG2XJM 0.137501 -11 0 EN91wr 0.2 KB4OER EM86ui 626 198 2012-12-18
05:12 WG2XJM 0.137501 -19 0 EN91wr 0.2 KB4OER EM86ui 626 198 2012-12-18
05:10 WG2XJM 0.137501 -14 0 EN91wr 0.2 KB4OER EM86ui 626 198 2012-12-18
05:08 WG2XJM 0.137501 -10 0 EN91wr 0.2 KB4OER EM86ui 626 198 2012-12-18
05:06 WG2XJM 0.137501 -7 0 EN91wr 0.2 KB4OER EM86ui 626 198 2012-12-18
04:54 WG2XJM 0.137501 -8 0 EN91wr 0.2 KB4OER EM86ui 626 198 2012-12-18
04:50 WG2XJM 0.137501 -6 0 EN91wr 0.2 KB4OER EM86ui 626 198 2012-12-18
04:42 WG2XJM 0.137501 -11 0 EN91wr 0.2 KB4OER EM86ui 626 198 2012-12-18
03:02 WG2XJM 0.137501 -16 0 EN91wr 0.2 KB4OER EM86ui 626 198 2012-12-18
02:58 WG2XJM 0.137501 -23 0 EN91wr 0.2 KB4OER EM86ui 626 198 2012-12-18
02:54 WG2XJM 0.137501 -20 0 EN91wr 0.2 KB4OER EM86ui 626 198 2012-12-18
02:50 WG2XJM 0.137501 -24 0 EN91wr 0.2 KB4OER EM86ui 626 198 2012-12-18
02:46 WG2XJM 0.137501 -22 0 EN91wr 0.2 KB4OER EM86ui 626 198



On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:20 AM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:

> Hi All: Looks like I can decode Eric at 100uW ERP at about 120 kilometers
> away on 136 kHz. Plug that into your
> Free Space Path Loss equation and assume -65 dB for my NE EWE antenna
> signal level...according to W7EL's
> EZNEC program.....great fun Eric. Mni Mni Thanks.......73 Mike wa3tts
>
> Mike
>
> I ran down to about 0.019W TPO.... but the ATT setup was kind of
> kludgy.
>
> I am re-running 0.04, 0.03 W over the next 10-15 minutes.
>
> The lowest decoded at 0.05W TPO is about 0.1 mW (0.0001 W) ERP.
>
> On 12/18/12 02:12, Michael Sapp wrote:
> > Eric:
> > 0532 10 3 0.2 1397.5 0 WG2XJM 65
> >
> > 0534 10 0 0.2 1397.5 0 WG2XJM 60
> >
> > 0536 10 0 0.1 1397.5 0 WG2XJM 60
> >
> > 0538 10 -10 0.2 1397.5 0 WG2XJM 1
> >
> > 0540 10 -19 0.2 1397.5 0 WG2XJM 0.5
> >
> > 0542 10 -20 0.1 1397.5 0 WG2XJM 0.5
> >
> > 0544 10 -20 0.1 1397.6 0 WG2XJM 0.5
> >
> > 0546 10 -20 0.2 1397.6 0 WG2XJM 0.5
> >
> > 0548 0 -30 0.1 1397.6 0
> >
> > 0550 2 -28 0.2 1397.5 0 WG2XJM 0.05
> >
> > 0552 1 -30 -0.2 1397.7 0
> >
> > 0554 1 -29 0.1 1397.6 0 WG2XJM 0.05
> >
> > 0556 2 -27 0.2 1397.6 0 WG2XJM 0.05
> >
> > 0558 2 -26 0.2 1397.6 0 WG2XJM 0.05
> >
> > 0600 0 -31 -1.0 1408.0 0
> >
> > 0602 10 -14 0.2 1397.7 0 WG2XJM XX ADJ
> >
> > 0604 10 -11 0.2 1397.7 0 WG2XJM XX ADJ
> >
> > 0606 10 -11 0.1 1397.7 0 WG2XJM XX ADJ
> >
> > 0608 10 -11 0.2 1397.7 0 WG2XJM XX ADJ
> >
> > 0610 10 -11 0.1 1397.7 0 WG2XJM XX ADJ
> >
> > 0612 10 -12 0.2 1397.7 0 WG2XJM XX ADJ
> >
> > 0614 10 -13 0.1 1397.7 0 WG2XJM XX ADJ
> >
> > 0616 10 -19 0.2 1397.8 0 WG2XJM XX ADJ
> >
> > 0618 10 -23 0.1 1397.8 0 WG2XJM XX ADJ
> >
> > 0620 3 -25 0.1 1397.7 0 WG2XJM XX ADJ
> >
> > 0622 2 -26 0.2 1397.7 0 WG2XJM 0.1
> >
> > 0624 3 -26 0.1 1397.8 0 WG2XJM 0.1
> >
> > 0626 2 -27 0.1 1397.8 0 WG2XJM 0.063
> >
> > 0628 1 -27 0.2 1397.8 0 WG2XJM 0.063
> >
> > 0630 1 -27 0.2 1397.8 0
> >
> > 0632 2 -27 0.2 1397.8 0 WG2XJM 0.05
> >
> > 0634 2 -27 0.2 1397.8 0 WG2XJM 0.05
> >
> > 0636 0 -30 3.8 1403.9 -1
> >
> > 0638 0 -30 0.2 1397.7 0
> >
> > 0640 0 -28 -3.0 1403.5 -1
> >
>
>
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Tue Dec 18 07:42:13 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 06:42:13 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfers SJ and WMS
Message-ID: <50D064A5.5090301@sbcglobal.net>

Waterhold lowfers SJ and WMS came through well here over night, but no 
sign of TAG.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From dexter.mc at gmail.com  Tue Dec 18 08:54:21 2012
From: dexter.mc at gmail.com (Dexter McIntyre W4DEX)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:54:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Best overnight EAR in NC
Message-ID: <50D0758D.7050001@gmail.com>

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15095569/w4dex/ear.jpg

From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Tue Dec 18 10:45:10 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:45:10 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Best overnight EAR in NC
In-Reply-To: <50D0758D.7050001@gmail.com>
References: <50D0758D.7050001@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D4F21C8C-1646-4BF9-8596-23640F541BF8@hurontel.on.ca>

Hi Dex, Lowfers,

That indeed is a great capture, with a solid image pretty well across the entire screen.  Thanks again!

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 18 12:19:40 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:19:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Afternoon copy of MP and XJ
Message-ID: <1355851180.8292.YahooMailClassic@web125301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Both signals holding up nicely at mid-day in Friendsville, TN. - EM75xr

Andy - KU4XR
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Tue Dec 18 13:13:53 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:13:53 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Afternoon copy of MP and XJ
Message-ID: <50D0B261.5040904@sbcglobal.net>

Excellent daytime signals here too, on shorter paths than to Andy.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Tue Dec 18 14:38:43 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:38:43 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Afternoon copy of MP and XJ
In-Reply-To: <50D0B261.5040904@sbcglobal.net>
References: <50D0B261.5040904@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP547F051DB7A4F46C346F84E9310@phx.gbl>

Andy and Garry - nice signals - and surprising holding up so well to the South.
Nice midday capture - seems to be a bit better each day now.
Thanks
Mitch 
On 2012-12-18, at 1:13 PM, Garry Hess wrote:

> Excellent daytime signals here too, on shorter paths than to Andy.
> -- 
> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From jhjesse at verizon.net  Tue Dec 18 15:35:54 2012
From: jhjesse at verizon.net (JJ)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:35:54 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MP & XJ
Message-ID: <50D0D3AA.9080701@verizon.net>

Just grabbed both.  Looking good.

Jon WS1K
FN41qw


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From no3m at no3m.net  Tue Dec 18 17:01:41 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric Tichansky)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:01:41 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XJM WSPR
Message-ID: <50D0E7C5.6010602@no3m.net>

Trying WSPR this evening, QRV 137.550 kHz (136 kHz USB dial).

73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Tue Dec 18 17:23:30 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:23:30 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR starts now for the evening...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W61F6EC3E965CB485D5EFBAAC310@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR NY on usual 498 Dial and 499.5 Tx freq for the evening-all decodes wanted-Bob 		 	   		  

From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Tue Dec 18 18:30:21 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 23:30:21 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. TXing every night from sunset until sunrise (weather
 permitting) at 475.7 KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50CFA270.7050904@bellsouth.net>
References: <50CFA270.7050904@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50D0FC8D.3040400@bellsouth.net>











*Dial Frequency 474.2 KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/*









From kb4oer at gmail.com  Tue Dec 18 19:02:41 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 19:02:41 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XJM WSPR
In-Reply-To: <50D0E7C5.6010602@no3m.net>
References: <50D0E7C5.6010602@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7ZMZNiv=Le7fBWevDnuaxoNyxjWzyOkyODHWhs_WzM8vg@mail.gmail.com>

Copied you last night, Eric, but more QRN tonight. Will try anyway.

73 Doug KB4OER

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Eric Tichansky <no3m at no3m.net> wrote:

> Trying WSPR this evening, QRV 137.550 kHz (136 kHz USB dial).
>
> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Tue Dec 18 19:04:53 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 19:04:53 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XJM WSPR
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References: <50D0E7C5.6010602@no3m.net>
	<CABP+t7ZMZNiv=Le7fBWevDnuaxoNyxjWzyOkyODHWhs_WzM8vg@mail.gmail.com>
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Success already.

0000 -14  0.2   0.137521  0 WD2XNS FN31 30
0000 -16  0.3   0.137551  0 WG2XJM EN91 20
KB4OER

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com>wrote:

> Copied you last night, Eric, but more QRN tonight. Will try anyway.
>
> 73 Doug KB4OER
>
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Eric Tichansky <no3m at no3m.net> wrote:
>
>> Trying WSPR this evening, QRV 137.550 kHz (136 kHz USB dial).
>>
>> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Tue Dec 18 19:12:38 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (Pat Bunn)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 19:12:38 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 137.5 KHz
Message-ID: <96e56ufrlatls6dhps343405.1355875958617@email.android.com>

Listening but QRN is awful tonight. Is it my setup or is it that bad? Worst I have had in a while.

Pat
N4LTA

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Tue Dec 18 19:22:06 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 19:22:06 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 137.5 KHz
References: <96e56ufrlatls6dhps343405.1355875958617@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <003e01cddd7e$e0ac04c0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

> Listening but QRN is awful tonight. Is it my setup or is it that bad? Worst I have had in a while.

Lots of lightning off the coast ... http://webflash.ess.washington.edu/AmericaL_plot_weather_map.jpg

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


From pbunn at patbunn.com  Tue Dec 18 19:30:06 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (Pat Bunn)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 19:30:06 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 137.5 KHz
Message-ID: <o1n6iy385ggg3m9eqg5sq4du.1355876935231@email.android.com>

Glad that's what it is. I can see a very faint WSPR trace at abt 535 so maybe things will settle down later and I can get a decode.

Pat

jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:

>> Listening but QRN is awful tonight. Is it my setup or is it that bad? Worst I have had in a while.
>
>Lots of lightning off the coast ... http://webflash.ess.washington.edu/AmericaL_plot_weather_map.jpg
>
>Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Wed Dec 19 01:51:25 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 01:51:25 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonites results...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W47929D255E41652F01D69AC300@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR NY received 827 decodes by 15 dedicated decoders.  500 kHz band not too bad condx.  Sigs got across the pond but no exceptional sigs strengths.
Thanks to the following receiver ops that hung in there for hours;
F59706
G8HUH
PI4THT
PA0O
G0KTN
WW6D
RLS [CALIF]
VE4XC
WG2XCT
WA3TTS
WA8KNE
WB8SKP
W3NF
WS1K
K3SIW
Hope to see ya'all tomorrow hear-Bob
 
 
  		 	   		  

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Wed Dec 19 05:46:45 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 05:46:45 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR last night
Message-ID: <CABP+t7YmSu3ZYq3ESj=xM_M749XoGsySshi8=5wNqmiH_nAqAg@mail.gmail.com>

Decoded three different 137 kHz stations. Strangely, did not decode a
single MF station on the other receiver.

73 Doug KB4OER

2012-12-19 00:30 WD2XES 0.137452 -21 0 FN42ch 5 KB4OER EM86ui 1119 237
2012-12-19
00:00 WD2XNS 0.137521 -14 0 FN31ls 1 KB4OER EM86ui 999 236 2012-12-19
00:00 WG2XJM
0.137551 -16 0 EN91wr 0.1 KB4OER EM86ui 626 198

**

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Wed Dec 19 15:29:11 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:29:11 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Afternoon copy of MP and XJ
Message-ID: <50D22397.2000604@sbcglobal.net>

Good daytime signals from MP and XJ (WG2XJM) continue.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Wed Dec 19 16:12:56 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (Pat Bunn)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:12:56 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] testing very low power WSPR on 495.1 dial. 496.6
 transmit frequency
Message-ID: <okyoy6ru812j17brhfk2j9ij.1355949989937@email.android.com>

Running a low power WSPR test. Got about 4 .6 volts  peak to peak on the antenna. Maybe 50 MW to the variometer.

Any report would be a surprise and greatly appreciated.

Pat
Wg2xct

From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Wed Dec 19 16:23:41 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:23:41 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] testing very low power WSPR on 495.1 dial. 496.6
	transmit frequency
In-Reply-To: <okyoy6ru812j17brhfk2j9ij.1355949989937@email.android.com>
References: <okyoy6ru812j17brhfk2j9ij.1355949989937@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP84286C474D8599D08EB5E2E9300@phx.gbl>

Dial frequency ?

Mitch
On 2012-12-19, at 4:12 PM, Pat Bunn wrote:

> Running a low power WSPR test. Got about 4 .6 volts  peak to peak on the antenna. Maybe 50 MW to the variometer.
> 
> Any report would be a surprise and greatly appreciated.
> 
> Pat
> Wg2xct
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From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Wed Dec 19 16:24:03 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:24:03 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. TXing every night from sunset until sunrise (weather
 permitting) at 475.7 KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50D0FC8D.3040400@bellsouth.net>
References: <50D0FC8D.3040400@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50D23073.3000005@bellsouth.net>






*Dial Frequency 474.2 KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/*








From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Wed Dec 19 16:26:11 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:26:11 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Afternoon copy of MP and XJ
In-Reply-To: <50D22397.2000604@sbcglobal.net>
References: <50D22397.2000604@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP123128F8BE94CCF5F93143E9300@phx.gbl>

Thanks - nice to see mid afternoon copy  - just finished another 250 foot loop 
that I will be connecting IN PARALLEL with the present loop.   Awaiting a couple of high voltage
capacitors - need an extra 0.01 uf !!!!    details later. 
Mitch
On 2012-12-19, at 3:29 PM, Garry Hess wrote:

> Good daytime signals from MP and XJ (WG2XJM) continue.
> -- 
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Wed Dec 19 16:27:20 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:27:20 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] testing very low power WSPR on 495.1 dial. 496.6
 transmit frequency
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP84286C474D8599D08EB5E2E9300@phx.gbl>
References: <okyoy6ru812j17brhfk2j9ij.1355949989937@email.android.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP84286C474D8599D08EB5E2E9300@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7a1n-MRzqbx4CT980F5JeiEMBMwOm79LXPPeTR6ZQmQSw@mail.gmail.com>

Check the subject line.



On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>wrote:

> Dial frequency ?
>
> Mitch
> On 2012-12-19, at 4:12 PM, Pat Bunn wrote:
>
> > Running a low power WSPR test. Got about 4 .6 volts  peak to peak on the
> antenna. Maybe 50 MW to the variometer.
> >
> > Any report would be a surprise and greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Pat
> > Wg2xct
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From no3m at no3m.net  Wed Dec 19 16:30:23 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric Tichansky)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:30:23 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Afternoon copy of MP and XJ
In-Reply-To: <50D22397.2000604@sbcglobal.net>
References: <50D22397.2000604@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <50D231EF.5060705@no3m.net>

Thanks for the capture Garry.  Shutdown right now while making some 
feedpoint changes to be able to switch between 137, 475, and 510 kHz 
(also 185 once I find another SPST relay).  Using 0,+12,-12, and 12AC 
for relay control over coax via Bias-Ts.  Hopefully finish in a hour or two.

73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM

On 12/19/2012 15:29, Garry Hess wrote:
> Good daytime signals from MP and XJ (WG2XJM) continue.
>
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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Wed Dec 19 16:33:23 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:33:23 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] testing very low power WSPR on 495.1 dial. 496.6
	transmit frequency
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7a1n-MRzqbx4CT980F5JeiEMBMwOm79LXPPeTR6ZQmQSw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <okyoy6ru812j17brhfk2j9ij.1355949989937@email.android.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP84286C474D8599D08EB5E2E9300@phx.gbl>
	<CABP+t7a1n-MRzqbx4CT980F5JeiEMBMwOm79LXPPeTR6ZQmQSw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP83183EEFEE5F01D550EF9DE9300@phx.gbl>

I'm glad someone is watching out for me 1  Tnx Doug
On 2012-12-19, at 4:27 PM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:

> Check the subject line.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>wrote:
> 
>> Dial frequency ?
>> 
>> Mitch
>> On 2012-12-19, at 4:12 PM, Pat Bunn wrote:
>> 
>>> Running a low power WSPR test. Got about 4 .6 volts  peak to peak on the
>> antenna. Maybe 50 MW to the variometer.
>>> 
>>> Any report would be a surprise and greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Pat
>>> Wg2xct
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Wed Dec 19 16:34:29 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:34:29 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] testing very low power WSPR on 495.1 dial. 496.6
 transmit frequency
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP83183EEFEE5F01D550EF9DE9300@phx.gbl>
References: <okyoy6ru812j17brhfk2j9ij.1355949989937@email.android.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP84286C474D8599D08EB5E2E9300@phx.gbl>
	<CABP+t7a1n-MRzqbx4CT980F5JeiEMBMwOm79LXPPeTR6ZQmQSw@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP83183EEFEE5F01D550EF9DE9300@phx.gbl>
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:-)

I also tend to "gloss over" subject lines. Just happened to see this one.

D.

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>wrote:

> I'm glad someone is watching out for me 1  Tnx Doug
> On 2012-12-19, at 4:27 PM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
>
> > Check the subject line.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Dial frequency ?
> >>
> >> Mitch
> >> On 2012-12-19, at 4:12 PM, Pat Bunn wrote:
> >>
> >>> Running a low power WSPR test. Got about 4 .6 volts  peak to peak on
> the
> >> antenna. Maybe 50 MW to the variometer.
> >>>
> >>> Any report would be a surprise and greatly appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> Pat
> >>> Wg2xct
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From pbunn at matrixei.com  Wed Dec 19 16:34:19 2012
From: pbunn at matrixei.com (pbunn)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:34:19 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] testing very low power WSPR on 495.1 dial. 496.6
 transmit frequency
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7a1n-MRzqbx4CT980F5JeiEMBMwOm79LXPPeTR6ZQmQSw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <okyoy6ru812j17brhfk2j9ij.1355949989937@email.android.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP84286C474D8599D08EB5E2E9300@phx.gbl>,
	<CABP+t7a1n-MRzqbx4CT980F5JeiEMBMwOm79LXPPeTR6ZQmQSw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ibtu1iikga2xb4e3t03wkvhj.1355952857454@email.android.com>

Sorry its in the subject line but I should have put it in the body. 495.1 KHz dial.  496.6 KHz transmit frequency

Pat
WG2XCT

"Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:


Check the subject line.



On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>wrote:

> Dial frequency ?
>
> Mitch
> On 2012-12-19, at 4:12 PM, Pat Bunn wrote:
>
> > Running a low power WSPR test. Got about 4 .6 volts  peak to peak on the
> antenna. Maybe 50 MW to the variometer.
> >
> > Any report would be a surprise and greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Pat
> > Wg2xct
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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Wed Dec 19 16:41:26 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:41:26 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] testing very low power WSPR on 495.1 dial. 496.6
	transmit frequency
In-Reply-To: <ibtu1iikga2xb4e3t03wkvhj.1355952857454@email.android.com>
References: <okyoy6ru812j17brhfk2j9ij.1355949989937@email.android.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP84286C474D8599D08EB5E2E9300@phx.gbl>,
	<CABP+t7a1n-MRzqbx4CT980F5JeiEMBMwOm79LXPPeTR6ZQmQSw@mail.gmail.com>
	<ibtu1iikga2xb4e3t03wkvhj.1355952857454@email.android.com>
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Not necessarily - I just read it too quickly  - 
Having strange  fast fading here - cycling once per second - S4 to S7

No carrier showing yet - will leave it on for an hour or so - until sunset 
(Gray line dx - do you think )
Mitch

On 2012-12-19, at 4:34 PM, pbunn wrote:

> Sorry its in the subject line but I should have put it in the body. 495.1 KHz dial.  496.6 KHz transmit frequency
> 
> Pat
> WG2XCT
> 
> "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Check the subject line.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>wrote:
> 
>> Dial frequency ?
>> 
>> Mitch
>> On 2012-12-19, at 4:12 PM, Pat Bunn wrote:
>> 
>>> Running a low power WSPR test. Got about 4 .6 volts  peak to peak on the
>> antenna. Maybe 50 MW to the variometer.
>>> 
>>> Any report would be a surprise and greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Pat
>>> Wg2xct
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From pbunn at matrixei.com  Wed Dec 19 16:47:54 2012
From: pbunn at matrixei.com (pbunn)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:47:54 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] testing very low power WSPR on 495.1 dial.
	496.6	transmit frequency
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I'm going to work on an amp tonight. This is a simplified phasing exciter for wspr only and it seems to work OK but only about 50 m W . I also built a ssb version (Jay's design) but they have the same output circuit so I need an amp.

Pat
WG2XCT
N4LTA

Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca> wrote:


Not necessarily - I just read it too quickly  -
Having strange  fast fading here - cycling once per second - S4 to S7

No carrier showing yet - will leave it on for an hour or so - until sunset
(Gray line dx - do you think )
Mitch

On 2012-12-19, at 4:34 PM, pbunn wrote:

> Sorry its in the subject line but I should have put it in the body. 495.1 KHz dial.  496.6 KHz transmit frequency
>
> Pat
> WG2XCT
>
> "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Check the subject line.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>wrote:
>
>> Dial frequency ?
>>
>> Mitch
>> On 2012-12-19, at 4:12 PM, Pat Bunn wrote:
>>
>>> Running a low power WSPR test. Got about 4 .6 volts  peak to peak on the
>> antenna. Maybe 50 MW to the variometer.
>>>
>>> Any report would be a surprise and greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Pat
>>> Wg2xct
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Wed Dec 19 17:05:37 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:05:37 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] testing very low power WSPR on 495.1 dial. 496.6
 transmit frequency
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I ain't getting much.

Might have to burn some spiders.......

D. KB4OER

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:47 PM, pbunn <pbunn at matrixei.com> wrote:

> I'm going to work on an amp tonight. This is a simplified phasing exciter
> for wspr only and it seems to work OK but only about 50 m W . I also built
> a ssb version (Jay's design) but they have the same output circuit so I
> need an amp.
>
> Pat
> WG2XCT
> N4LTA
>
> Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
> Not necessarily - I just read it too quickly  -
> Having strange  fast fading here - cycling once per second - S4 to S7
>
> No carrier showing yet - will leave it on for an hour or so - until sunset
> (Gray line dx - do you think )
> Mitch
>
> On 2012-12-19, at 4:34 PM, pbunn wrote:
>
> > Sorry its in the subject line but I should have put it in the body.
> 495.1 KHz dial.  496.6 KHz transmit frequency
> >
> > Pat
> > WG2XCT
> >
> > "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Check the subject line.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Dial frequency ?
> >>
> >> Mitch
> >> On 2012-12-19, at 4:12 PM, Pat Bunn wrote:
> >>
> >>> Running a low power WSPR test. Got about 4 .6 volts  peak to peak on
> the
> >> antenna. Maybe 50 MW to the variometer.
> >>>
> >>> Any report would be a surprise and greatly appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> Pat
> >>> Wg2xct
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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Wed Dec 19 17:13:59 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:13:59 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] testing very low power WSPR on 495.1 dial.
	496.6	transmit frequency
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	<BLU0-SMTP84286C474D8599D08EB5E2E9300@phx.gbl>,
	<CABP+t7a1n-MRzqbx4CT980F5JeiEMBMwOm79LXPPeTR6ZQmQSw@mail.gmail.com>
	<ibtu1iikga2xb4e3t03wkvhj.1355952857454@email.android.com>,
	<BLU0-SMTP360864844A926B94C17502E9300@phx.gbl>
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Still not seeing any carrier on the scan - and it's getting dark and scary out.
Even the squirrels don't hang on the loop here...... kilovolts of scary sparks.
Mitch
On 2012-12-19, at 4:47 PM, pbunn wrote:

> I'm going to work on an amp tonight. This is a simplified phasing exciter for wspr only and it seems to work OK but only about 50 m W . I also built a ssb version (Jay's design) but they have the same output circuit so I need an amp.
> 
> Pat
> WG2XCT
> N4LTA
> 


From pbunn at matrixei.com  Wed Dec 19 17:42:35 2012
From: pbunn at matrixei.com (pbunn)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:42:35 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] testing very low power WSPR on 495.1
	dial.	496.6	transmit frequency
Message-ID: <vslc2x48qyw98vtmvigidrv2.1355956954123@email.android.com>

Just up'd the power to about 3 watt

Pat

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Wed Dec 19 17:42:53 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:42:53 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] testing very low power WSPR on 495.1 dial. 496.6
 transmit frequency
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	<BLU0-SMTP84286C474D8599D08EB5E2E9300@phx.gbl>
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Gotcha Pat! Did you increase power?

2230 -22  0.7   0.496612  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
2232 -20  0.9   0.496612  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
2238 -17  0.6   0.496612  0 WG2XCT EM94 0

D.

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>wrote:

> Still not seeing any carrier on the scan - and it's getting dark and scary
> out.
> Even the squirrels don't hang on the loop here...... kilovolts of scary
> sparks.
> Mitch
> On 2012-12-19, at 4:47 PM, pbunn wrote:
>
> > I'm going to work on an amp tonight. This is a simplified phasing
> exciter for wspr only and it seems to work OK but only about 50 m W . I
> also built a ssb version (Jay's design) but they have the same output
> circuit so I need an amp.
> >
> > Pat
> > WG2XCT
> > N4LTA
> >
>
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From pbunn at matrixei.com  Wed Dec 19 17:49:01 2012
From: pbunn at matrixei.com (pbunn)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:49:01 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] testing very low power WSPR on 495.1 dial. 496.6
 transmit frequency
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	<BLU0-SMTP84286C474D8599D08EB5E2E9300@phx.gbl>
	<CABP+t7a1n-MRzqbx4CT980F5JeiEMBMwOm79LXPPeTR6ZQmQSw@mail.gmail.com>
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	<BLU0-SMTP84A663D72C57AFFFD8C299E9300@phx.gbl>,
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I turned it up about 20 minutes ago and noticed you had a decode about the same time. I have a somewhat linear amp and I hooked it up and set the bias for a decent looking waveform.

Pat

"Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:


Gotcha Pat! Did you increase power?

2230 -22  0.7   0.496612  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
2232 -20  0.9   0.496612  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
2238 -17  0.6   0.496612  0 WG2XCT EM94 0

D.

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>wrote:

> Still not seeing any carrier on the scan - and it's getting dark and scary
> out.
> Even the squirrels don't hang on the loop here...... kilovolts of scary
> sparks.
> Mitch
> On 2012-12-19, at 4:47 PM, pbunn wrote:
>
> > I'm going to work on an amp tonight. This is a simplified phasing
> exciter for wspr only and it seems to work OK but only about 50 m W . I
> also built a ssb version (Jay's design) but they have the same output
> circuit so I need an amp.
> >
> > Pat
> > WG2XCT
> > N4LTA
> >
>
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From hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com  Wed Dec 19 18:38:41 2012
From: hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com (Laurence KL1 X)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:38:41 -0900
Subject: [Lowfer] RF charred insect check list
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	<CABP+t7a1n-MRzqbx4CT980F5JeiEMBMwOm79LXPPeTR6ZQmQSw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<ibtu1iikga2xb4e3t03wkvhj.1355952857454@email.android.com>,
	<BLU0-SMTP360864844A926B94C17502E9300@phx.gbl>,
	<5r8qksc5kag4h5d9vf76oaq5.1355953672932@email.android.com>,
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I can lend you a slightly RF charred 2005 vintage 137Khz resonated Cicada if you like :-) Laurence KL 1 X
 > Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:05:37 -0500
> From: kb4oer at gmail.com
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] testing very low power WSPR on 495.1 dial. 496.6 transmit frequency
> 
> I ain't getting much.
> 
> Might have to burn some spiders.......
> 
> D. KB4OER
> 
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:47 PM, pbunn <pbunn at matrixei.com> wrote:
> 
> > I'm going to work on an amp tonight. This is a simplified phasing exciter
> > for wspr only and it seems to work OK but only about 50 m W . I also built
> > a ssb version (Jay's design) but they have the same output circuit so I
> > need an amp.
> >
> > Pat
> > WG2XCT
> > N4LTA
> >
> > Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Not necessarily - I just read it too quickly  -
> > Having strange  fast fading here - cycling once per second - S4 to S7
> >
> > No carrier showing yet - will leave it on for an hour or so - until sunset
> > (Gray line dx - do you think )
> > Mitch
> >
> > On 2012-12-19, at 4:34 PM, pbunn wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry its in the subject line but I should have put it in the body.
> > 495.1 KHz dial.  496.6 KHz transmit frequency
> > >
> > > Pat
> > > WG2XCT
> > >
> > > "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Check the subject line.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Dial frequency ?
> > >>
> > >> Mitch
> > >> On 2012-12-19, at 4:12 PM, Pat Bunn wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Running a low power WSPR test. Got about 4 .6 volts  peak to peak on
> > the
> > >> antenna. Maybe 50 MW to the variometer.
> > >>>
> > >>> Any report would be a surprise and greatly appreciated.
> > >>>
> > >>> Pat
> > >>> Wg2xct
> > >>> ______________________________________________________________
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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Wed Dec 19 18:40:25 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:40:25 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] testing very low power WSPR on 495.1
	dial.	496.6	transmit frequency
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References: <vslc2x48qyw98vtmvigidrv2.1355956954123@email.android.com>
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Solid copy - looks really good on the scan -

Here is copy

2254 -24  0.2   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0

2256 -24  0.3   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0

2314 -28  0.1   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0

2322 -29  0.5   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0

2330 -29  0.0   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0

2332 -27  0.3   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0

Mitch
On 2012-12-19, at 5:42 PM, pbunn wrote:

> Just up'd the power to about 3 watt
> 
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From pbunn at matrixei.com  Wed Dec 19 18:47:29 2012
From: pbunn at matrixei.com (pbunn)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:47:29 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] testing very low power WSPR on
	495.1	dial.	496.6	transmit frequency
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP855D2216FF6D1D8A3F94C1E9300@phx.gbl>
References: <vslc2x48qyw98vtmvigidrv2.1355956954123@email.android.com>,
	<BLU0-SMTP855D2216FF6D1D8A3F94C1E9300@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <i798vokv1we1vutpfjbtf3ib.1355960847134@email.android.com>

Everyone thanks for looking. I am afraid to go into the shop . I might disturb the clip lead mess and shut the whole thing down.

Anyone got a good idea on a (150 watts or so) linear amp circuit?.

Pat
WG2XCT
N4LTA

Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca> wrote:


Solid copy - looks really good on the scan -

Here is copy

2254 -24  0.2   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0

2256 -24  0.3   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0

2314 -28  0.1   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0

2322 -29  0.5   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0

2330 -29  0.0   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0

2332 -27  0.3   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0

Mitch
On 2012-12-19, at 5:42 PM, pbunn wrote:

> Just up'd the power to about 3 watt
>
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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Wed Dec 19 18:52:14 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:52:14 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] testing very low power WSPR on
	495.1	dial.	496.6	transmit frequency
In-Reply-To: <i798vokv1we1vutpfjbtf3ib.1355960847134@email.android.com>
References: <vslc2x48qyw98vtmvigidrv2.1355956954123@email.android.com>,
	<BLU0-SMTP855D2216FF6D1D8A3F94C1E9300@phx.gbl>
	<i798vokv1we1vutpfjbtf3ib.1355960847134@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP934C6EBF997A13B8B20A87E9300@phx.gbl>

Stopped abruptly - 2336 - assume Doug's spiders have attacked ?

No carrier now - 

Mitch
On 2012-12-19, at 6:47 PM, pbunn wrote:

> Everyone thanks for looking. I am afraid to go into the shop . I might disturb the clip lead mess and shut the whole thing down.
> 
> Anyone got a good idea on a (150 watts or so) linear amp circuit?.
> 
> Pat
> WG2XCT
> N4LTA
> 
> Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
> Solid copy - looks really good on the scan -
> 
> Here is copy
> 
> 2254 -24  0.2   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
> 
> 2256 -24  0.3   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
> 
> 2314 -28  0.1   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
> 
> 2322 -29  0.5   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
> 
> 2330 -29  0.0   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
> 
> 2332 -27  0.3   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
> 
> Mitch
> On 2012-12-19, at 5:42 PM, pbunn wrote:
> 
>> Just up'd the power to about 3 watt
>> 
>> Pat
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From pbunn at matrixei.com  Wed Dec 19 19:02:05 2012
From: pbunn at matrixei.com (pbunn)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 00:02:05 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] testing very low power WSPR
	on	495.1	dial.	496.6	transmit frequency
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP934C6EBF997A13B8B20A87E9300@phx.gbl>
References: <vslc2x48qyw98vtmvigidrv2.1355956954123@email.android.com>,
	<BLU0-SMTP855D2216FF6D1D8A3F94C1E9300@phx.gbl>
	<i798vokv1we1vutpfjbtf3ib.1355960847134@email.android.com>,
	<BLU0-SMTP934C6EBF997A13B8B20A87E9300@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <sq37u9p3oq4cd40vdwqbgv18.1355961722927@email.android.com>

Still working ?

I didn't touch anything !

Still got a signal on the scope and 40 db over on the receiver.

Pat

Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca> wrote:


Stopped abruptly - 2336 - assume Doug's spiders have attacked ?

No carrier now -

Mitch
On 2012-12-19, at 6:47 PM, pbunn wrote:

> Everyone thanks for looking. I am afraid to go into the shop . I might disturb the clip lead mess and shut the whole thing down.
>
> Anyone got a good idea on a (150 watts or so) linear amp circuit?.
>
> Pat
> WG2XCT
> N4LTA
>
> Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
> Solid copy - looks really good on the scan -
>
> Here is copy
>
> 2254 -24  0.2   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
>
> 2256 -24  0.3   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
>
> 2314 -28  0.1   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
>
> 2322 -29  0.5   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
>
> 2330 -29  0.0   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
>
> 2332 -27  0.3   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
>
> Mitch
> On 2012-12-19, at 5:42 PM, pbunn wrote:
>
>> Just up'd the power to about 3 watt
>>
>> Pat
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From jhjesse at verizon.net  Wed Dec 19 19:09:16 2012
From: jhjesse at verizon.net (JJ)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:09:16 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] testing very low power WSPR
 on	495.1	dial.	496.6	transmit frequency
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP934C6EBF997A13B8B20A87E9300@phx.gbl>
References: <vslc2x48qyw98vtmvigidrv2.1355956954123@email.android.com>,
	<BLU0-SMTP855D2216FF6D1D8A3F94C1E9300@phx.gbl>
	<i798vokv1we1vutpfjbtf3ib.1355960847134@email.android.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP934C6EBF997A13B8B20A87E9300@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <50D2572C.5050603@verizon.net>

Sporadic decodes here.
Jon WS1K
FN41qw

2350 -29  0.3   0.496603  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
0000 -28  0.6   0.496603  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
0002 -26  0.5   0.496603  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
0006 -32  0.4   0.496602  0 WG2XCT EM94 0




On 12/19/2012 6:52 PM, Mitch Powell wrote:
> Stopped abruptly - 2336 - assume Doug's spiders have attacked ?
>
> No carrier now -
>
> Mitch
> On 2012-12-19, at 6:47 PM, pbunn wrote:
>
>> Everyone thanks for looking. I am afraid to go into the shop . I might disturb the clip lead mess and shut the whole thing down.
>>
>> Anyone got a good idea on a (150 watts or so) linear amp circuit?.
>>
>> Pat
>> WG2XCT
>> N4LTA
>>
>> Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Solid copy - looks really good on the scan -
>>
>> Here is copy
>>
>> 2254 -24  0.2   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
>>
>> 2256 -24  0.3   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
>>
>> 2314 -28  0.1   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
>>
>> 2322 -29  0.5   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
>>
>> 2330 -29  0.0   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
>>
>> 2332 -27  0.3   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
>>
>> Mitch
>> On 2012-12-19, at 5:42 PM, pbunn wrote:
>>
>>> Just up'd the power to about 3 watt
>>>
>>> Pat
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Wed Dec 19 19:26:18 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:26:18 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XCT in EN90xn
Message-ID: <ACFA247C87094DEC904597B95C6B0226@MichaelSappPC>

Pat & All:  Nice to know I can decode 0dBm @ 400 miles out

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/xct1220_zps7f528512.jpg

SW EWE pointed 230 deg>VE7BPO 533kHz LPF with 1020 kHz trap>modified "Griefkit" HD-1420 VLF Converter>FT-817 w/TCXO9>Acer netbook

My FT-847 would have decoded most of those traces, the FT-817 ceramic resonator on SSB not even close to a "std 2.5 kHz filter"

I'll be down around 475.7 rx after 9pm....

73  Mike wa3tts

From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Wed Dec 19 19:29:30 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:29:30 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] testing very low power WSPR
	on	495.1	dial.	496.6	transmit frequency
In-Reply-To: <sq37u9p3oq4cd40vdwqbgv18.1355961722927@email.android.com>
References: <vslc2x48qyw98vtmvigidrv2.1355956954123@email.android.com>,
	<BLU0-SMTP855D2216FF6D1D8A3F94C1E9300@phx.gbl>
	<i798vokv1we1vutpfjbtf3ib.1355960847134@email.android.com>,
	<BLU0-SMTP934C6EBF997A13B8B20A87E9300@phx.gbl>
	<sq37u9p3oq4cd40vdwqbgv18.1355961722927@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP958561B078EA635A77868AE9370@phx.gbl>

You're baaaaaaaack  - looks like a loooooong fade nearly 50 minutes 
coinciding with period around sunset I would imagine.   Trace good again -  decode good again.
Guess we just have to be patient.

Turning M P 137780.48 on again.
C  U  L

Mitch
On 2012-12-19, at 7:02 PM, pbunn wrote:

> Still working ?
> 
> I didn't touch anything !
> 
> Still got a signal on the scope and 40 db over on the receiver.
> 
> Pat


From pbunn at patbunn.com  Wed Dec 19 19:56:46 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (Pat Bunn)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:56:46 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XCT in EN90xn
Message-ID: <3g7qm6ec94fc43l3w31qxwrf.1355965006929@email.android.com>

Mike

I was running about 30 MW to my vertical which is hopefully about 4% or so efficient so I loaded zero dBm.

I added a small amp after getting no decodes and forgot to change the setup. I actually was running about 2 watts to the variometer so the erp is about 80 MW if I am lucky. I chances the setup to 20 dBm which is probably optimistic.

Pat

Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:

>Pat & All:  Nice to know I can decode 0dBm @ 400 miles out
>
>http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/xct1220_zps7f528512.jpg
>
>SW EWE pointed 230 deg>VE7BPO 533kHz LPF with 1020 kHz trap>modified "Griefkit" HD-1420 VLF Converter>FT-817 w/TCXO9>Acer netbook
>
>My FT-847 would have decoded most of those traces, the FT-817 ceramic resonator on SSB not even close to a "std 2.5 kHz filter"
>
>I'll be down around 475.7 rx after 9pm....
>
>73  Mike wa3tts
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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Wed Dec 19 19:58:47 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (Pat Bunn)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:58:47 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XCT in EN90xn
Message-ID: <x3c4m1gonqswgbw6hgfw003n.1355965127109@email.android.com>

80 milliwatts  I hate these auto correctors on these phones.

Pat Bunn <pbunn at patbunn.com> wrote:

>Mike
>
>I was running about 30 MW to my vertical which is hopefully about 4% or so efficient so I loaded zero dBm.
>
>I added a small amp after getting no decodes and forgot to change the setup. I actually was running about 2 watts to the variometer so the erp is about 80 MW if I am lucky. I chances the setup to 20 dBm which is probably optimistic.
>
>Pat
>
>Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Pat & All:  Nice to know I can decode 0dBm @ 400 miles out
>>
>>http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/xct1220_zps7f528512.jpg
>>
>>SW EWE pointed 230 deg>VE7BPO 533kHz LPF with 1020 kHz trap>modified "Griefkit" HD-1420 VLF Converter>FT-817 w/TCXO9>Acer netbook
>>
>>My FT-847 would have decoded most of those traces, the FT-817 ceramic resonator on SSB not even close to a "std 2.5 kHz filter"
>>
>>I'll be down around 475.7 rx after 9pm....
>>
>>73  Mike wa3tts
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From smokinggun at verizon.net  Wed Dec 19 20:16:46 2012
From: smokinggun at verizon.net (rick kirby)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 01:16:46 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] PBO - QRT for a bit
Message-ID: <3BF45E24D4C446169E3F06109570D689@radioroom>

 

Shutting down for a day or so to make some changes.

 

 

  73

      Rick  KA2PBO


From k2ors at verizon.net  Wed Dec 19 21:38:56 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (K2ORS)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:38:56 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 CW
Message-ID: <EB08D7879336474492192C3DBE4F3A18@DC66PRF1>

WE2XGR/1 is on 506.3 cw

Reports welcome!

73 K2ORS



From rjraide at hotmail.com  Wed Dec 19 21:39:04 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:39:04 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR-Rather Late Start...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W4404AA8DD0BBFEC03D1A6EAC370@phx.gbl>





WE6XGR NY on usual 498 Dial Freq for rest of the evening-499.5 Tx freq-any decodes appreciated-Bob 		 	   		  

From pbunn at patbunn.com  Wed Dec 19 21:50:02 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (Pat Bunn)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:50:02 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] testing very low power WSPR
	on	495.1	dial.	496.6	transmit frequency
Message-ID: <wo80m5ut6g1mfqbchjhhs2a2.1355971802047@email.android.com>

Shutting down for the night. Thanks every one for all the reports and spots. When XGR came on everything stopped.

Hopefully the FCC will approve my license modification soon to get to the lower part of the band. Right now 495 kHz is as low as I can go.

Pat
WG2XCT

pbunn <pbunn at matrixei.com> wrote:

>Everyone thanks for looking. I am afraid to go into the shop . I might disturb the clip lead mess and shut the whole thing down.
>
>Anyone got a good idea on a (150 watts or so) linear amp circuit?.
>
>Pat
>WG2XCT
>N4LTA
>
>Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>Solid copy - looks really good on the scan -
>
>Here is copy
>
>2254 -24  0.2   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
>
>2256 -24  0.3   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
>
>2314 -28  0.1   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
>
>2322 -29  0.5   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
>
>2330 -29  0.0   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
>
>2332 -27  0.3   0.496601  0 WG2XCT EM94 0
>
>Mitch
>On 2012-12-19, at 5:42 PM, pbunn wrote:
>
>> Just up'd the power to about 3 watt
>>
>> Pat
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Wed Dec 19 22:01:54 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:01:54 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XCT in EN90xn
Message-ID: <6F23838CC1A04CB2AA4AB51AF399D74A@MichaelSappPC>

OK Pat: I had to pull the plug at 00:54 (needed the netbook for work) and the visual traces were stronger, but I noticed 
the SNR numbers had not changed much.  I wrote the prior e-mail in that 18 minute gap from 0006 to 0024, else 
I would have noticed the SNRs had not changed 19 dB like they should have for the stated power difference.
Thanks for clarifying.  With one -22 SNR capture it looks like 8mw ERP would be possible to detect up here with
the FT-817 IF radio under the right condx.   Next time you decide to run QRPp I'll use the '847 with the better SSB xtal filter 
and see what happens....73  Mike wa3tts

      Date Call Frequency SNR Drift Grid dBm W
     by loc km mi 
       2012-12-20 00:54   WG2XCT   0.496609   -25   0   EM94bw   +20   0.100   WA3TTS   EN90xn   646   401  
       2012-12-20 00:50   WG2XCT   0.496609   -22   0   EM94bw   +20   0.100   WA3TTS   EN90xn   646   401  
       2012-12-20 00:48   WG2XCT   0.496609   -25   0   EM94bw   +20   0.100   WA3TTS   EN90xn   646   401  
       2012-12-20 00:42   WG2XCT   0.496609   -29   0   EM94bw   +20   0.100   WA3TTS   EN90xn   646   401  
       2012-12-20 00:40   WG2XCT   0.496609   -25   0   EM94bw   +20   0.100   WA3TTS   EN90xn   646   401  
       2012-12-20 00:38   WG2XCT   0.496609   -28   0   EM94bw   +20   0.100   WA3TTS   EN90xn   646   401  
       2012-12-20 00:30   WG2XCT   0.496609   -26   0   EM94bw   +20   0.100   WA3TTS   EN90xn   646   401  
       2012-12-20 00:28   WG2XCT   0.496609   -23   0   EM94bw   +20   0.100   WA3TTS   EN90xn   646   401  
       2012-12-20 00:26   WG2XCT   0.496608   -24   0   EM94bw   +20   0.100   WA3TTS   EN90xn   646   401  
       2012-12-20 00:24   WG2XCT   0.496608   -26   0   EM94bw   +20   0.100   WA3TTS   EN90xn   646   401  
       2012-12-20 00:06   WG2XCT   0.496608   -28   0   EM94bw   +0   0.001   WA3TTS   EN90xn   646   401  
       2012-12-19 23:54   WG2XCT   0.496608   -28   0   EM94bw   +0   0.001   WA3TTS   EN90xn   646   401  
       2012-12-19 23:50   WG2XCT   0.496608   -27   0   EM94bw   +0   0.001   WA3TTS   EN90xn   646   40 

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Wed Dec 19 22:18:02 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:18:02 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT in CT
Message-ID: <003901cdde60$9f3cc8c0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Pat

Copy started at 2258 ... as soon as as I dialed in the receiver. Not bad for QRP! 

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

2012-12-20 02:12  WG2XCT  0.496601  -27  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43
2012-12-20 02:10  WG2XCT  0.496601  -28  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 02:08  WG2XCT  0.496601  -27  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 02:02  WG2XCT  0.496601  -29  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 02:00  WG2XCT  0.496601  -27  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 01:46  WG2XCT  0.496601  -31  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 01:38  WG2XCT  0.496601  -28  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 01:34  WG2XCT  0.496601  -25  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 01:32  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 01:30  WG2XCT  0.496601  -25  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 01:28  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 01:26  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 01:24  WG2XCT  0.496601  -24  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 01:22  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 01:14  WG2XCT  0.496601  -28  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 01:10  WG2XCT  0.496601  -20  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 01:08  WG2XCT  0.496601  -25  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 01:06  WG2XCT  0.496601  -25  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 01:04  WG2XCT  0.496601  -24  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 01:02  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 01:00  WG2XCT  0.496601  -20  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:56  WG2XCT  0.496601  -17  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:54  WG2XCT  0.496601  -18  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:52  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:50  WG2XCT  0.496601  -21  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:44  WG2XCT  0.496601  -22  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:42  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:40  WG2XCT  0.496601  -19  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:38  WG2XCT  0.496601  -20  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:36  WG2XCT  0.496601  -20  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:34  WG2XCT  0.496601  -25  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:32  WG2XCT  0.496601  -22  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:30  WG2XCT  0.496601  -19  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:28  WG2XCT  0.496601  -19  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:26  WG2XCT  0.496601  -20  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:24  WG2XCT  0.496601  -17  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:22  WG2XCT  0.496601  -19  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:20  WG2XCT  0.496601  -16  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:18  WG2XCT  0.496601  -20  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:14  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:10  WG2XCT  0.496601  -27  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:08  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:06  WG2XCT  0.496601  -22  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:04  WG2XCT  0.496601  -21  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:02  WG2XCT  0.496601  -24  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-20 00:00  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-19 23:58  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-19 23:48  WG2XCT  0.496601  -21  1  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-19 23:46  WG2XCT  0.496601  -20  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-19 23:42  WG2XCT  0.496601  -29  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-19 23:40  WG2XCT  0.496601  -20  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-19 23:38  WG2XCT  0.496601  -20  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-19 23:34  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-19 23:32  WG2XCT  0.496601  -27  1  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-19 23:30  WG2XCT  0.496601  -22  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-19 23:28  WG2XCT  0.496601  -22  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-19 23:26  WG2XCT  0.496601  -27  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-19 23:24  WG2XCT  0.496601  -26  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-19 23:22  WG2XCT  0.496601  -29  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-19 23:10  WG2XCT  0.496601  -26  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-19 23:08  WG2XCT  0.496601  -24  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-19 23:06  WG2XCT  0.496601  -24  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-19 23:04  WG2XCT  0.496601  -25  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-19 23:02  WG2XCT  0.496601  -27  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
2012-12-19 22:58  WG2XCT  0.496601  -27  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43 

From pbunn at patbunn.com  Wed Dec 19 22:42:02 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (Pat Bunn)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:42:02 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT in CT
Message-ID: <vfc6ryi7xu86nr5h6ntjkyxb.1355974274956@email.android.com>

Jay

I was using a variation of your phasing converter. I got interested in phasing techniques and tried a single all pass  op amp filter with Fo tuned to 1500 Hz . Since wspr stays close to 1500 Hz , that's all that was needed to get the I and Q. I used the same circuit that you used downstream except Tuf  3 mixers and a homemade combiner.  Probably didn't save much in time and parts over a full blown ssb converter ( I built one of those also) but it was fun doing it. 

It all seems to work fine. Now I need a good linear amp.

Pat



jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:

>Pat
>
>Copy started at 2258 ... as soon as as I dialed in the receiver. Not bad for QRP! 
>
>Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>2012-12-20 02:12  WG2XCT  0.496601  -27  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43
>2012-12-20 02:10  WG2XCT  0.496601  -28  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 02:08  WG2XCT  0.496601  -27  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 02:02  WG2XCT  0.496601  -29  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 02:00  WG2XCT  0.496601  -27  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 01:46  WG2XCT  0.496601  -31  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 01:38  WG2XCT  0.496601  -28  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 01:34  WG2XCT  0.496601  -25  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 01:32  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 01:30  WG2XCT  0.496601  -25  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 01:28  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 01:26  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 01:24  WG2XCT  0.496601  -24  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 01:22  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 01:14  WG2XCT  0.496601  -28  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 01:10  WG2XCT  0.496601  -20  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 01:08  WG2XCT  0.496601  -25  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 01:06  WG2XCT  0.496601  -25  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 01:04  WG2XCT  0.496601  -24  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 01:02  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 01:00  WG2XCT  0.496601  -20  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:56  WG2XCT  0.496601  -17  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:54  WG2XCT  0.496601  -18  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:52  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:50  WG2XCT  0.496601  -21  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:44  WG2XCT  0.496601  -22  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:42  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:40  WG2XCT  0.496601  -19  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:38  WG2XCT  0.496601  -20  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:36  WG2XCT  0.496601  -20  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:34  WG2XCT  0.496601  -25  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:32  WG2XCT  0.496601  -22  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:30  WG2XCT  0.496601  -19  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:28  WG2XCT  0.496601  -19  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:26  WG2XCT  0.496601  -20  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:24  WG2XCT  0.496601  -17  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:22  WG2XCT  0.496601  -19  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:20  WG2XCT  0.496601  -16  0  EM94bw  0.1  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:18  WG2XCT  0.496601  -20  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:14  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:10  WG2XCT  0.496601  -27  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:08  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:06  WG2XCT  0.496601  -22  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:04  WG2XCT  0.496601  -21  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:02  WG2XCT  0.496601  -24  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-20 00:00  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-19 23:58  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-19 23:48  WG2XCT  0.496601  -21  1  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-19 23:46  WG2XCT  0.496601  -20  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-19 23:42  WG2XCT  0.496601  -29  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-19 23:40  WG2XCT  0.496601  -20  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-19 23:38  WG2XCT  0.496601  -20  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-19 23:34  WG2XCT  0.496601  -23  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-19 23:32  WG2XCT  0.496601  -27  1  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-19 23:30  WG2XCT  0.496601  -22  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-19 23:28  WG2XCT  0.496601  -22  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-19 23:26  WG2XCT  0.496601  -27  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-19 23:24  WG2XCT  0.496601  -26  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-19 23:22  WG2XCT  0.496601  -29  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-19 23:10  WG2XCT  0.496601  -26  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-19 23:08  WG2XCT  0.496601  -24  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-19 23:06  WG2XCT  0.496601  -24  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-19 23:04  WG2XCT  0.496601  -25  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-19 23:02  WG2XCT  0.496601  -27  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43   
>2012-12-19 22:58  WG2XCT  0.496601  -27  0  EM94bw  0.001  WD2XNS  FN31ls  1081  43 
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 20 00:35:48 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:35:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 CW
In-Reply-To: <EB08D7879336474492192C3DBE4F3A18@DC66PRF1>
Message-ID: <1355981748.93216.YahooMailClassic@web125306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

That is one BIG nasty storm coming at us from the west..
The static bursts ar horrendous, and continuous..
WE2XGR/1 is there.. I can make out occasional letters,
and sometimes a short sequence.. Remembering what John - TAG
recently told someone; " There are limits to this stuff "
and I hit the limit tonite.. Gonna send you a sound clip..

73: - Andy - KU4XR

--- On Wed, 12/19/12, K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:

> WE2XGR/1 is on 506.3 cw
> 
> Reports welcome!
> 
> 73 K2ORS
> 


From rjraide at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 20 01:28:23 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 01:28:23 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonites results...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W61F9A69210C6903855F453AC370@phx.gbl>


Late start at 00230 but still had 7 decoders and 249 decodes.  Average conditions tonite. Hoping to try 137 Friday or Saturday night.
Thanks to;
F59706
G0KTN
PA0O
VE4XC
VE7BDQ
WW6D
WA8KNE
73, Bob WE2XGR/6 [WE6XGR on WSPR mode] 		 	   		  

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Thu Dec 20 07:18:21 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 07:18:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SIW in CT
Message-ID: <000501cddeac$1ab2a970$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Garry

Hadn't looked in on SIW for a while ... good copy at 

http://www.w1vd.com/interestinggrab.html

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

From k2ors at verizon.net  Thu Dec 20 07:38:30 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 07:38:30 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 CW
In-Reply-To: <1355981748.93216.YahooMailClassic@web125306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1355981748.93216.YahooMailClassic@web125306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50D306C6.6040209@verizon.net>

Andy,

      Thanks for the report and clip from TN !
Yes stormy wx affecting us too.

73 Warren


On 12/20/2012 12:35 AM, Andy - KU4XR wrote:
> That is one BIG nasty storm coming at us from the west..
> The static bursts ar horrendous, and continuous..
> WE2XGR/1 is there.. I can make out occasional letters,
> and sometimes a short sequence.. Remembering what John - TAG
> recently told someone; " There are limits to this stuff "
> and I hit the limit tonite.. Gonna send you a sound clip..
>
> 73: - Andy - KU4XR
>
> --- On Wed, 12/19/12, K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> WE2XGR/1 is on 506.3 cw
>>
>> Reports welcome!
>>
>> 73 K2ORS
>>
>
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 20 08:26:28 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 07:26:28 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] SIW in CT
Message-ID: <50D31204.8060003@sbcglobal.net>

Jay,

Thank you very much for the report. Thought SIW was running ok but 
haven't received any reports for awhile. It was very noisy here over 
night so didn't even listen. We're to get our first snow of the season 
today (finally!). Hope the 60 mph winds predicted don't damage the 
lowfer antenna.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From j_molnar at shoreham.net  Tue Dec 18 17:57:19 2012
From: j_molnar at shoreham.net (WA3ETD)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 22:57:19 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Eric and Jay WSPR
Message-ID: <8C5C08DF6CCA4E02A67DD8B1168B4267@GGLaptop>

      2012-12-18 22:46   WD2XNS   0.137532   -19   0   FN31ls   20   WG2XKA   FN33ir   219   355  
       2012-12-18 22:44   WD2XNS   0.137532   -26   0   FN31ls   20   WG2XKA   FN33ir   219   355  
       2012-12-18 22:44   WG2XJM   0.137562   -28   0   EN91wr   0.1   WG2XKA   FN33ir   601   66  
       2012-12-18 22:40   WG2XJM   0.137562   -30   0   EN91wr   0.1   WG2XKA   FN33ir   601   66  
       2012-12-18 22:36   WG2XJM   0.137563   -29   0   EN91wr   0.1   WG2XKA   FN33ir   601   66  


John WG2XKA

From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Thu Dec 20 14:03:56 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:03:56 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Overnight navtex
Message-ID: <55ED23CE-2B04-42A3-8431-9097B15FBFE5@hurontel.on.ca>

Hello Lowfers,

Despite the high noise from the active weather system to our east, I had a couple
of clean navtex decodes from both Bermuda and Puerto Rico stations. 

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From rjraide at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 20 16:41:47 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:41:47 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR starts at 2200 for the evening...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W336D0A74AB7AFB58C17566AC370@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR NY 498 Dial-499.5 Tx freq for the evening-all decodes appreciated-Bob 		 	   		  

From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Thu Dec 20 17:15:15 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 22:15:15 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. TXing every night from sunset until sunrise (weather
 permitting) at 475.7 KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50D0FC8D.3040400@bellsouth.net>
References: <50D0FC8D.3040400@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50D38DF3.8000007@bellsouth.net>












*Dial Frequency 474.2 KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/*










From k0az at centurytel.net  Thu Dec 20 17:39:01 2012
From: k0az at centurytel.net (Mike Sanders)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:39:01 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR starts at 2200 for the evening...
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W336D0A74AB7AFB58C17566AC370@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W336D0A74AB7AFB58C17566AC370@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <001e01cddf02$cfceaf10$6f6c0d30$@centurytel.net>

Well, XGR is in SWMO at -21at 2236Z

-----Original Message-----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Bob Raide
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 3:42 PM
To: Bob Raide
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR starts at 2200 for the evening...


WE6XGR NY 498 Dial-499.5 Tx freq for the evening-all decodes appreciated-Bob

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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 18:57:16 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:57:16 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] tonight?
Message-ID: <CABP+t7ZuNq-W5HHann_NayJyUq5ZZYs2j9kGZ2FBz1O5gWpEog@mail.gmail.com>

Trying to decide what to do tonight, regarding LF reception.

No one seems to be transmitting on 137 kHz WSPR. 500 kHz WSPR seems fairly
active, and I already received two stations within minutes of trying.

Anyone know if JH is still transmitting QRSS30 on 181.818 kHz? Did he add
any ground radials?

Is PBO back on?

So far this season I have received the following Part 15 Lowfers: SJ, EAR,
TAG, WMS, & SIW. Who have I missed that is actively transmitting?

Ready for the (possible) snow tonight, cold temps, and the beginning of
some real LF.

Perhaps it's time for some transatlantic attempts?

-Doug KB4OER

From wb8skp at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 19:51:11 2012
From: wb8skp at gmail.com (Denis G. Barton)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:51:11 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR starts at 2200 for the evening...
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W336D0A74AB7AFB58C17566AC370@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W336D0A74AB7AFB58C17566AC370@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1356051071.2150.0.camel@denis-P7515A-ABA-531w>

Bob,

Good signal into Western Ky. tonight.

Denis
WB8SKP



From smokinggun at verizon.net  Thu Dec 20 19:57:07 2012
From: smokinggun at verizon.net (rick kirby)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 00:57:07 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] tonight?
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7ZuNq-W5HHann_NayJyUq5ZZYs2j9kGZ2FBz1O5gWpEog@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DB3734071B6042E38930673BB4201C95@radioroom>

Hi Doug,
 
 PBO isn't back on yet. I have the current final  on the bench and trying to
find its happy and most efficient load because Im just not getting the
antenna current I expected.My loading coil measures under 5 dc ohms and I
have 60 Radials out so tx efficiency seemed like the next thing to check.If
that tests good then I expect it's the current sucking trees in my yard.If
so ; its back to a LOOP !


   73
      Rick  KA2PBO

-----Original Message-----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Douglas D. Williams
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 23:57
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp, UK) and MedFer bands
Subject: [Lowfer] tonight?

Trying to decide what to do tonight, regarding LF reception.

No one seems to be transmitting on 137 kHz WSPR. 500 kHz WSPR seems fairly
active, and I already received two stations within minutes of trying.

Anyone know if JH is still transmitting QRSS30 on 181.818 kHz? Did he add
any ground radials?

Is PBO back on?

So far this season I have received the following Part 15 Lowfers: SJ, EAR,
TAG, WMS, & SIW. Who have I missed that is actively transmitting?

Ready for the (possible) snow tonight, cold temps, and the beginning of
some real LF.

Perhaps it's time for some transatlantic attempts?

-Doug KB4OER
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Thu Dec 20 20:07:04 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 20:07:04 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XNS WSPR 136000 + 1520
Message-ID: <000701cddf17$7db99a90$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

WD2XNS will be transmitting WSPR on 136000 + 1520 for the next several hours. Reports appreciated 
... as are other stations wishing to join in.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

 


From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Thu Dec 20 21:46:04 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:46:04 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XNS WSPR 136000 + 1520
References: <000701cddf17$7db99a90$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <000601cddf25$52adac70$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

XNS early shutdown due to freezing rain, rain, sleet and ice mix. Thanks to Bill, Andy, Lloyd and 
Joe for the spots.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 8:07 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XNS WSPR 136000 + 1520


> WD2XNS will be transmitting WSPR on 136000 + 1520 for the next several hours. Reports appreciated 
> ... as are other stations wishing to join in.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
>
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 20 22:01:23 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 19:01:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XNS WSPR 136000 + 1520
In-Reply-To: <000601cddf25$52adac70$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <1356058883.77727.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Jay:

Thanks for the signal.. Was running WSJT7 along with WSPR..
The S/N numbers showed WSJT to dig a bit deeper that WSPR..
The S/N in WSJT was always a minimum of 1 dB better S/N..
I haven't really used that program, Have You ?? and what's 
your thoughts on WSJT's capabilities over WSPR ?? 

73: - Andy - KU4XR

--- On Thu, 12/20/12, jrusgrove at comcast.net <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> XNS early shutdown due to freezing
> rain, rain, sleet and ice mix. Thanks to Bill, Andy, Lloyd
> and 
> Joe for the spots.
> 
> Jay W1VD? WD2XNS? WE2XGR/2
> 
> 


From k2ors at verizon.net  Thu Dec 20 22:21:53 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (K2ORS)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 22:21:53 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 QRSS 3
Message-ID: <B13DB80EE2E2432EB11BA7CF24E89C44@DC66PRF1>

WD2XGJ 136.745 QRSS 3 

Reports welcome!

73 K2ORS


From k2ors at verizon.net  Thu Dec 20 22:29:01 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (K2ORS)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 22:29:01 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 CW
Message-ID: <7BFD8AF826EE41699CC1BB81299AD017@DC66PRF1>

WE2XGR/1  506.3  Reports welcome!

73 Warren K2ORS


From rjraide at hotmail.com  Fri Dec 21 00:50:44 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 00:50:44 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR-tonites results...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W473344B4005F36286EC7D6AC360@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR NY-638 decodes and 15 decoders including a couple new faces that is always good to see.  Condx good-especially to the west.  Euros too-they made it a crossed the pond to pound out their share of decodes.  
Thanks to the following for there dedicated decoding;
F59706
PA0O
G0KTN
G8HUH
K0AZ
KB9IV
K3SIW
RLS [CALIF]
WW6D
KU7Z
W0YSE/7
WB8SKP
KB4OER
W3NF
WA8KNE 		 	   		  

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 06:22:27 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 06:22:27 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] tonight?
In-Reply-To: <DB3734071B6042E38930673BB4201C95@radioroom>
References: <CABP+t7ZuNq-W5HHann_NayJyUq5ZZYs2j9kGZ2FBz1O5gWpEog@mail.gmail.com>
	<DB3734071B6042E38930673BB4201C95@radioroom>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7akSuxvVAqcU=0XX6UPipfXq2EN=9s=vSgi1YhYmQX3eg@mail.gmail.com>

Well, I decided to try for JH again on 181.818 and also monitor the Lowfer
watering hole.

Woke up to some snow on the ground this AM, and found that both my
computers had rebooted themselves sometime during the night, but not before
I got several screen captures.

No luck at all on JH, but did get readable IDs on (in order of signal
strength) SJ, SIW, WMS, & TAG.

73, Doug KB4OER

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 7:57 PM, rick kirby <smokinggun at verizon.net> wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
>  PBO isn't back on yet. I have the current final  on the bench and trying
> to
> find its happy and most efficient load because Im just not getting the
> antenna current I expected.My loading coil measures under 5 dc ohms and I
> have 60 Radials out so tx efficiency seemed like the next thing to check.If
> that tests good then I expect it's the current sucking trees in my yard.If
> so ; its back to a LOOP !
>
>
>    73
>       Rick  KA2PBO
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:
> lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of Douglas D. Williams
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 23:57
> To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp, UK) and MedFer bands
> Subject: [Lowfer] tonight?
>
> Trying to decide what to do tonight, regarding LF reception.
>
> No one seems to be transmitting on 137 kHz WSPR. 500 kHz WSPR seems fairly
> active, and I already received two stations within minutes of trying.
>
> Anyone know if JH is still transmitting QRSS30 on 181.818 kHz? Did he add
> any ground radials?
>
> Is PBO back on?
>
> So far this season I have received the following Part 15 Lowfers: SJ, EAR,
> TAG, WMS, & SIW. Who have I missed that is actively transmitting?
>
> Ready for the (possible) snow tonight, cold temps, and the beginning of
> some real LF.
>
> Perhaps it's time for some transatlantic attempts?
>
> -Doug KB4OER
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From dwilson314 at verizon.net  Fri Dec 21 11:07:49 2012
From: dwilson314 at verizon.net (David L. Wilson)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:07:49 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Multicoupler
Message-ID: <010e01cddf95$536d3700$fa47a500$@verizon.net>

I have noted that Stridsburg has a 4 output active multicoupler now for
VLF/LF.   I can be found on
http://www.stridsberg.com/prod01.htm Look for MCA04VLF.  I have ordered one
to see how well it works.
Has anyone tried one of these?



From kb4oer at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 11:40:04 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:40:04 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Multicoupler
In-Reply-To: <010e01cddf95$536d3700$fa47a500$@verizon.net>
References: <010e01cddf95$536d3700$fa47a500$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7ZTvNduBh3ytwnDFmZP6+HocdL4A197vydmVKNYutPmmA@mail.gmail.com>

David,

Thank you for bringing this product to our attention.

I recently (within the last six months) had Kiwa Electronics custom build a
two port splitter/combiner with a frequency response of 1.5 kHz to 2.0
MHz. I have been extremely pleased with the Kiwa unit, and have been using
it to use the same active whip antenna with two different receivers.

The unit you linked has a narrower frequency response (which may be a good
thing if you have no interest in receiving above 500 kHz), twice as many
output ports, and appears to have a built in amplifier to eliminate the
inherent loss in a passive device. The Kiwa unit I had built is completely
passive, goes lower and higher in frequency, has greater port to port
isolation (if I remember correctly), and has an inherent 6dB loss from the
input port to the two output ports. Also, it appears to me that the Kiwa
unit, being passive, would allow you to use two different antennas with one
receiver, while the Stridsberg unit, having an active amp, would only be
intended to be used as a splitter.

The unit you linked appears to be solidly built. I would wonder if, since
it has an active amp, it is able to be easily opened up and repaired by the
end user should a failure happen? Hopefully, it's not "potted" like some
European devices I have purchased in the past.

73, Doug KB4OER





On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:07 AM, David L. Wilson <dwilson314 at verizon.net>wrote:

> I have noted that Stridsburg has a 4 output active multicoupler now for
> VLF/LF.   I can be found on
> http://www.stridsberg.com/prod01.htm Look for MCA04VLF.  I have ordered
> one
> to see how well it works.
> Has anyone tried one of these?
>
>
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From dwilson314 at verizon.net  Fri Dec 21 12:26:05 2012
From: dwilson314 at verizon.net (David L. Wilson)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 12:26:05 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Multicoupler
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7ZTvNduBh3ytwnDFmZP6+HocdL4A197vydmVKNYutPmmA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <010e01cddf95$536d3700$fa47a500$@verizon.net>
	<CABP+t7ZTvNduBh3ytwnDFmZP6+HocdL4A197vydmVKNYutPmmA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <011b01cddfa0$4277c7c0$c7675740$@verizon.net>

I have their HF model.  I noted it is easily opened, not potted, but used
surface mount components and the active component (IC) was unfamiliar.  It
works fine.  One of those failed some years ago and I have just today asked
about repair.  I have also ordered the VLF/LF mode.  

I regularly use their VHF/UHF models.

Sounds like you may have bought the Wellbrook loop antennas-everything
potted there but I figured out the power inserter by measuring across all
the external connections.
--
David L. Wilson
dwilson314 at verizon.net


> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-
> bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Douglas D. Williams
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 11:40 AM
> To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp, UK) and MedFer bands
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Multicoupler
> 
> David,
> 
> Thank you for bringing this product to our attention.
> 
> I recently (within the last six months) had Kiwa Electronics custom build
a two
> port splitter/combiner with a frequency response of 1.5 kHz to 2.0 MHz. I
> have been extremely pleased with the Kiwa unit, and have been using it to
> use the same active whip antenna with two different receivers.
> 
> The unit you linked has a narrower frequency response (which may be a
> good thing if you have no interest in receiving above 500 kHz), twice as
many
> output ports, and appears to have a built in amplifier to eliminate the
> inherent loss in a passive device. The Kiwa unit I had built is completely
> passive, goes lower and higher in frequency, has greater port to port
> isolation (if I remember correctly), and has an inherent 6dB loss from the
> input port to the two output ports. Also, it appears to me that the Kiwa
unit,
> being passive, would allow you to use two different antennas with one
> receiver, while the Stridsberg unit, having an active amp, would only be
> intended to be used as a splitter.
> 
> The unit you linked appears to be solidly built. I would wonder if, since
it has
> an active amp, it is able to be easily opened up and repaired by the end
user
> should a failure happen? Hopefully, it's not "potted" like some European
> devices I have purchased in the past.
> 
> 73, Doug KB4OER
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:07 AM, David L. Wilson
> <dwilson314 at verizon.net>wrote:
> 
> > I have noted that Stridsburg has a 4 output active multicoupler now for
> > VLF/LF.   I can be found on
> > http://www.stridsberg.com/prod01.htm Look for MCA04VLF.  I have
> > ordered one to see how well it works.
> > Has anyone tried one of these?
> >
> >
> >
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 12:52:34 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 12:52:34 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Multicoupler
In-Reply-To: <011b01cddfa0$4277c7c0$c7675740$@verizon.net>
References: <010e01cddf95$536d3700$fa47a500$@verizon.net>
	<CABP+t7ZTvNduBh3ytwnDFmZP6+HocdL4A197vydmVKNYutPmmA@mail.gmail.com>
	<011b01cddfa0$4277c7c0$c7675740$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7YJZa=4ZDVEFTJKS4OxVW+QKWHfFVP-4prJF3wRbQ7PJg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks David. It is good to know that the Stridsburg products are not
potted. I admit that I assumed they were European because of the name, but
now I see they are based in Louisiana. :-)

Potting is fine for passive devices, but I hate to see it with active
devices.

Yes, I have a Wellbrook loop, and in the past I have owned (and later sold)
an RF Systems DX-1 Pro (both potted, with active devices).

That Stridsberg VLF/LF multicoupler you linked appears, from the specs, to
be a very good product. Please let us all know how it works out.

I find it to be extremely convenient to use one antenna with multiple
receivers.

Thanks for the heads-up!

73, Doug KB4OER




On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:26 PM, David L. Wilson <dwilson314 at verizon.net>wrote:

> I have their HF model.  I noted it is easily opened, not potted, but used
> surface mount components and the active component (IC) was unfamiliar.  It
> works fine.  One of those failed some years ago and I have just today asked
> about repair.  I have also ordered the VLF/LF mode.
>
> I regularly use their VHF/UHF models.
>
> Sounds like you may have bought the Wellbrook loop antennas-everything
> potted there but I figured out the power inserter by measuring across all
> the external connections.
> --
> David L. Wilson
> dwilson314 at verizon.net
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-
> > bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Douglas D. Williams
> > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 11:40 AM
> > To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp, UK) and MedFer bands
> > Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Multicoupler
> >
> > David,
> >
> > Thank you for bringing this product to our attention.
> >
> > I recently (within the last six months) had Kiwa Electronics custom build
> a two
> > port splitter/combiner with a frequency response of 1.5 kHz to 2.0 MHz. I
> > have been extremely pleased with the Kiwa unit, and have been using it to
> > use the same active whip antenna with two different receivers.
> >
> > The unit you linked has a narrower frequency response (which may be a
> > good thing if you have no interest in receiving above 500 kHz), twice as
> many
> > output ports, and appears to have a built in amplifier to eliminate the
> > inherent loss in a passive device. The Kiwa unit I had built is
> completely
> > passive, goes lower and higher in frequency, has greater port to port
> > isolation (if I remember correctly), and has an inherent 6dB loss from
> the
> > input port to the two output ports. Also, it appears to me that the Kiwa
> unit,
> > being passive, would allow you to use two different antennas with one
> > receiver, while the Stridsberg unit, having an active amp, would only be
> > intended to be used as a splitter.
> >
> > The unit you linked appears to be solidly built. I would wonder if, since
> it has
> > an active amp, it is able to be easily opened up and repaired by the end
> user
> > should a failure happen? Hopefully, it's not "potted" like some European
> > devices I have purchased in the past.
> >
> > 73, Doug KB4OER
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:07 AM, David L. Wilson
> > <dwilson314 at verizon.net>wrote:
> >
> > > I have noted that Stridsburg has a 4 output active multicoupler now for
> > > VLF/LF.   I can be found on
> > > http://www.stridsberg.com/prod01.htm Look for MCA04VLF.  I have
> > > ordered one to see how well it works.
> > > Has anyone tried one of these?
> > >
> > >
> > >
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From evp at pacbell.net  Fri Dec 21 13:27:38 2012
From: evp at pacbell.net (Ed Phillips)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:27:38 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Multicoupler
In-Reply-To: <010e01cddf95$536d3700$fa47a500$@verizon.net>
References: <010e01cddf95$536d3700$fa47a500$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <50D4AA1A.6050304@pacbell.net>

Lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$  !!  I use one I made myself 40 years ago.

Ed

David L. Wilson wrote:

>I have noted that Stridsburg has a 4 output active multicoupler now for
>VLF/LF.   I can be found on
>http://www.stridsberg.com/prod01.htm Look for MCA04VLF.  I have ordered one
>to see how well it works.
>Has anyone tried one of these?
>
>
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From riel at surriel.com  Fri Dec 21 13:56:00 2012
From: riel at surriel.com (Rik van Riel)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:56:00 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Multicoupler
In-Reply-To: <50D4AA1A.6050304@pacbell.net>
References: <010e01cddf95$536d3700$fa47a500$@verizon.net>
	<50D4AA1A.6050304@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <50D4B0C0.1030201@surriel.com>

On 12/21/2012 01:27 PM, Ed Phillips wrote:
> Lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$  !!  I use one I made myself 40 years
> ago.

There are some shortcuts for home brewing receive-only multicouplers.

Mini-circuits has a number of usable splitters, which could be mounted
inside an Altoids tin with F or BNC sockets on the outside.

The PSC-4-6+ splitter looks like it would be good for LF,down to VLF,
and up to HF, splitting to 4 ports with good port isolation.

The PSC-2-1 and PSC-2-2 look like suitable splitters for people needing
two ports at VLF/LF/MF/HF or LF/MF/HF/VHF, depending on model.

-- 
All rights reversed.

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 14:17:47 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 14:17:47 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Multicoupler
In-Reply-To: <50D4AA1A.6050304@pacbell.net>
References: <010e01cddf95$536d3700$fa47a500$@verizon.net>
	<50D4AA1A.6050304@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7ZDdqeSkD7pYMgffW34w1QL3fwBxm8knAgCAZ6UMksOVQ@mail.gmail.com>

Good point, and I admire people who "roll their own".

I have "rolled my own" on a few radio projects, and built quite a few
"stuff the circuit board" kits.

"Lots of $$$$" is relative to your financial means. If you get up at 0500,
five days a week like I, and my wife, do, travel to work on a busy freeway,
and keep your employer happy with your performance, $250 isn't a deal
breaker for a hobby pursuit, not by a long shot.

That's *way* less than a set of decent golf clubs.

73, Doug KB4OER




















On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Ed Phillips <evp at pacbell.net> wrote:

> Lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$  !!  I use one I made myself 40 years
> ago.
>
> Ed
>
>
> David L. Wilson wrote:
>
>  I have noted that Stridsburg has a 4 output active multicoupler now for
>> VLF/LF.   I can be found on
>> http://www.stridsberg.com/**prod01.htm<http://www.stridsberg.com/prod01.htm>Look for MCA04VLF.  I have ordered one
>> to see how well it works.
>> Has anyone tried one of these?
>>
>>
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From w1tag at charter.net  Fri Dec 21 15:55:53 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:55:53 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR/JT9-2 Shootout
Message-ID: <50D4CCD9.1050403@charter.net>

WD2XES will be running WSPR and JT9-2 at the same time on 136 kHz USB 
tonight, starting around 2200 UTC. The WSPR signal will be at a 1450 Hz 
offset, and the JT9-2 signal at 1400 Hz. Power level of each signal will 
be 6dB below normal, to allow for the capabilities of the linear 
amplifier. Comparisons are invited.

John, W1TAG/WD2XES

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Fri Dec 21 17:05:01 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:05:01 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR for the evening...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W13D13B190F9B08AB0F6407AC360@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR on usual 498 Dial freq 499.5 Tx freq for tonite.  Plan 137 WSPR tomorrow nite-Bob 		 	   		  

From no3m at no3m.net  Fri Dec 21 17:19:51 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric Tichansky)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:19:51 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR/JT9-2 Shootout
In-Reply-To: <50D4CCD9.1050403@charter.net>
References: <50D4CCD9.1050403@charter.net>
Message-ID: <50D4E087.7090800@no3m.net>

So far WSJT-X (JT9-2) consistently reporting 1-2 dB lower SNR than 
WSPR.  I am noticing that JT9 is decoding *much* faster than WSPR, by 
several seconds.  That is beneficial when using JT9 for QSOs.

WSPR:

2204 -18 -0.5   0.137451  0 WD2XES FN42 37
2208 -14 -0.4   0.137451  0 WD2XES FN42 37
2212 -13 -0.3   0.137451  0 WD2XES FN42 37
2216 -17 -0.4   0.137451  0 WD2XES FN42 37

JT9-2:

2204 10 -20 0.1 1400.8 0 WD2XES FN42

2208 10 -15 0.1 1400.7 0 WD2XES FN42

2212 10 -14 0.1 1400.8 0 WD2XES FN42

2216 10 -19 0.2 1400.8 0 WD2XES FN42

73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM

On 12/21/2012 15:55, John Andrews wrote:
> WD2XES will be running WSPR and JT9-2 at the same time on 136 kHz USB 
> tonight, starting around 2200 UTC. The WSPR signal will be at a 1450 
> Hz offset, and the JT9-2 signal at 1400 Hz. Power level of each signal 
> will be 6dB below normal, to allow for the capabilities of the linear 
> amplifier. Comparisons are invited.
>
> John, W1TAG/WD2XES
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From wilbur0611 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 17:36:05 2012
From: wilbur0611 at gmail.com (John Hamer)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:36:05 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] tonight?
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7ZuNq-W5HHann_NayJyUq5ZZYs2j9kGZ2FBz1O5gWpEog@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABP+t7ZuNq-W5HHann_NayJyUq5ZZYs2j9kGZ2FBz1O5gWpEog@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+jjR7drdQzRo8Y8Gr97Ksb7vr8yspLODY7-Bsfad5OCjdNzMQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have not added ground radials yet. I have been out of town. I am off work
until the second so I will get it done soon.
On Dec 20, 2012 6:57 PM, "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Trying to decide what to do tonight, regarding LF reception.
>
> No one seems to be transmitting on 137 kHz WSPR. 500 kHz WSPR seems fairly
> active, and I already received two stations within minutes of trying.
>
> Anyone know if JH is still transmitting QRSS30 on 181.818 kHz? Did he add
> any ground radials?
>
> Is PBO back on?
>
> So far this season I have received the following Part 15 Lowfers: SJ, EAR,
> TAG, WMS, & SIW. Who have I missed that is actively transmitting?
>
> Ready for the (possible) snow tonight, cold temps, and the beginning of
> some real LF.
>
> Perhaps it's time for some transatlantic attempts?
>
> -Doug KB4OER
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From no3m at no3m.net  Fri Dec 21 17:44:27 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric Tichansky)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:44:27 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR/JT9-2 Shootout
In-Reply-To: <50D4CCD9.1050403@charter.net>
References: <50D4CCD9.1050403@charter.net>
Message-ID: <50D4E64B.1010005@no3m.net>

John

It looks like WSJT-X/JT9-2 died.... only getting WSPR signal now.

On 12/21/2012 15:55, John Andrews wrote:
> WD2XES will be running WSPR and JT9-2 at the same time on 136 kHz USB 
> tonight, starting around 2200 UTC. The WSPR signal will be at a 1450 
> Hz offset, and the JT9-2 signal at 1400 Hz. Power level of each signal 
> will be 6dB below normal, to allow for the capabilities of the linear 
> amplifier. Comparisons are invited.
>
> John, W1TAG/WD2XES
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From jhjesse at verizon.net  Fri Dec 21 17:51:39 2012
From: jhjesse at verizon.net (JJ)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:51:39 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR/JT9-2 Shootout
In-Reply-To: <50D4E64B.1010005@no3m.net>
References: <50D4CCD9.1050403@charter.net> <50D4E64B.1010005@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <50D4E7FB.9060705@verizon.net>

Both strong here.
Jon WS1K


On 12/21/2012 5:44 PM, Eric Tichansky wrote:
> John
>
> It looks like WSJT-X/JT9-2 died.... only getting WSPR signal now.
>
> On 12/21/2012 15:55, John Andrews wrote:
>> WD2XES will be running WSPR and JT9-2 at the same time on 136 kHz USB 
>> tonight, starting around 2200 UTC. The WSPR signal will be at a 1450 
>> Hz offset, and the JT9-2 signal at 1400 Hz. Power level of each 
>> signal will be 6dB below normal, to allow for the capabilities of the 
>> linear amplifier. Comparisons are invited.
>>
>> John, W1TAG/WD2XES
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From listread at lwca.org  Fri Dec 21 18:03:11 2012
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:03:11 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon Op Reminder! (Was: PBO - QRT for a bit)
References: <3BF45E24D4C446169E3F06109570D689@radioroom>
Message-ID: <23E77E5B44494587BD03EF7C3C6E2E67@HPNOTEBOOK>

Rick and all other beacon ops,

Here's a good example of why it's important to ALSO post your beacon changes 
at http://lwca.org/mb  ...I initially missed Rick's announcement in all the 
other activity that goes on daily on this reflector, and nearly didn't find 
it in time to update the printed list this month, and am two days behind 
getting it on the online list.  Your info will get updated faster if you 
take that quick extra step, and maybe people won't have to ask "who's really 
on" quite as often.

Thanks 

From pbunn at patbunn.com  Fri Dec 21 18:05:08 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:05:08 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XSH/7
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W13D13B190F9B08AB0F6407AC360@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W13D13B190F9B08AB0F6407AC360@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <92B1EF6F182B4E1B89264EA2FA495760@PatBunnShopPC>



Hearing WD2HSH/7 CW in EM94bw upstate SC. 

Good copy

Pat
N4LTA

From listread at lwca.org  Fri Dec 21 18:08:07 2012
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:08:07 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon Op Reminder! (Was: PBO - QRT for a bit)
References: <3BF45E24D4C446169E3F06109570D689@radioroom>
	<23E77E5B44494587BD03EF7C3C6E2E67@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <A2745A00230B4DBFA32ADAFBA2B8983A@HPNOTEBOOK>

Oops!  That didn't come out right at all.  Sorry, I didn't mean to imply 
Rick hadn't updated on the Message Board--he did!

What I was trying to say is, it's a good thing he did, because I didn't see 
the one he posted HERE until just this evening.  Just trying to use that as 
an example of why it's important to do both, but left out a few rather 
crucial words!

Maybe it's time for my mediction....


From listread at lwca.org  Fri Dec 21 18:09:56 2012
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:09:56 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon Op Reminder! (Was: PBO - QRT for a bit)
References: <3BF45E24D4C446169E3F06109570D689@radioroom><23E77E5B44494587BD03EF7C3C6E2E67@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<A2745A00230B4DBFA32ADAFBA2B8983A@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <55FFC8F7E6194EECAE45D2069BFE32D3@HPNOTEBOOK>

>>> Maybe it's time for my mediction....

And a new spelling checker.  I'll just shut up for now.

From no3m at no3m.net  Fri Dec 21 18:17:10 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric Tichansky)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:17:10 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR/JT9-2 Shootout
In-Reply-To: <50D4CCD9.1050403@charter.net>
References: <50D4CCD9.1050403@charter.net>
Message-ID: <50D4EDF6.9030905@no3m.net>

and WSPR wins.....

WSPR:
2308 -32 -0.4   0.137450  0 WD2XES FN42 37

JT9-2 (no decode):
2308 0 -31 -0.7 1400.7 -1


Capture attached.  To validate the "shoot-out", had to get SNRs near the 
threshold.  Before doing anything more exotic like artificially 
injecting noise, switched to the south beverage array. We'll see what 
happens with further sessions.

73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM

On 12/21/2012 15:55, John Andrews wrote:
> WD2XES will be running WSPR and JT9-2 at the same time on 136 kHz USB 
> tonight, starting around 2200 UTC. The WSPR signal will be at a 1450 
> Hz offset, and the JT9-2 signal at 1400 Hz. Power level of each signal 
> will be 6dB below normal, to allow for the capabilities of the linear 
> amplifier. Comparisons are invited.
>
> John, W1TAG/WD2XES
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Fri Dec 21 19:10:39 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:10:39 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MP above average tointe
Message-ID: <13C96EBA44204A00923E14ED6F6FB832@MichaelSappPC>

Mitch & All:  MP is several dB stronger than average tonite, a few captures to compare peak MP signal with hi and lo
 average noise background (louder atmospherics excluded).


73  Mike wa3tts

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/mp1221a_zpseb8f3884.jpg   MP peak

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/mp1221b_zps62f25a7c.jpg  min background noise example

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/mp1221c_zps4a01307d.jpg max background noise example






From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Fri Dec 21 20:27:16 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 20:27:16 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR/JT9-2 Shootout
References: <50D4CCD9.1050403@charter.net> <50D4EDF6.9030905@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <006801cddfe3$7a806ee0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

John

XES signal is quite strong here which makes it difficult to compare the two modes. With the back of 
the antenna toward you, the preamp out of line and with 24 dB attenuation in place I can reduce the 
signals to a point near the reception threshold. This drops the signals into the receiver noise 
floor which is, of course,  relatively 'sterile'. The better test would be as we normally do ... 
with XES running a weak 'micro power' signal and letting the band noise wreak it's havoc on the weak 
signals. Results are below. There were a few more missed JT9-2s than WSPRs.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 20:35:54 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 20:35:54 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] tonight?
In-Reply-To: <CA+jjR7drdQzRo8Y8Gr97Ksb7vr8yspLODY7-Bsfad5OCjdNzMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABP+t7ZuNq-W5HHann_NayJyUq5ZZYs2j9kGZ2FBz1O5gWpEog@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+jjR7drdQzRo8Y8Gr97Ksb7vr8yspLODY7-Bsfad5OCjdNzMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7ZiYhaVeP0h+1qcgQRUJMso3akLxkPYTiQYFtxNZ+f+7g@mail.gmail.com>

Not a problem at all, John. Let us know when you get a few radials added
and I'll be looking forward to copying your beacon. :-)

Now that I have some land cleared, I'm itching to put up my own transmit
antenna. Just waiting to see what happens with the possible new LF
allocations.

73, Doug KB4OER

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:36 PM, John Hamer <wilbur0611 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have not added ground radials yet. I have been out of town. I am off work
> until the second so I will get it done soon.
>
>

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 20:38:00 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 20:38:00 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon Op Reminder! (Was: PBO - QRT for a bit)
In-Reply-To: <55FFC8F7E6194EECAE45D2069BFE32D3@HPNOTEBOOK>
References: <3BF45E24D4C446169E3F06109570D689@radioroom>
	<23E77E5B44494587BD03EF7C3C6E2E67@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<A2745A00230B4DBFA32ADAFBA2B8983A@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<55FFC8F7E6194EECAE45D2069BFE32D3@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7bWCEuUWZLGEudDZbuRG7wCOfA8C5jwq202+C5RiaMhLw@mail.gmail.com>

Have a drink. It helps. :-)

And hey, we survived DOOMSDAY! Well, so far....

73, Doug KB4OER

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 6:09 PM, JD <listread at lwca.org> wrote:

> >>> Maybe it's time for my mediction....
>
> And a new spelling checker.  I'll just shut up for now.
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 21 20:44:29 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:44:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] JT9-x won't TX for me.. Help Please
Message-ID: <1356140669.36308.YahooMailClassic@web125301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Hi all:

Trying JT9-1 on 160 meters tonite, never TXed with it yet,
AND, still haven't, I can't get it to switch from RX to TX..
I can click away on any of the 6 TX buttons, and nothing happens..
COM Ports is set to " none " for VOX operation.. I can't figure
out what I have set wrong.. any suggestions appreciated..

TNX, and 73:

Andy - KU4XR

From no3m at no3m.net  Fri Dec 21 21:06:04 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric Tichansky)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:06:04 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] JT9-x won't TX for me.. Help Please
In-Reply-To: <1356140669.36308.YahooMailClassic@web125301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1356140669.36308.YahooMailClassic@web125301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50D5158C.7070605@no3m.net>

Click the "Auto is OFF" button so it says "Auto is ON" and turns red.  
Check or uncheck the "TX first" checkbox depending on which 1 minute 
cycle (JT9-1) you want to transmit in.  When double clicking a decoded 
callsign, all the above is done automatically, including choosing the 
right time slot (tx first box).

73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM

On 12/21/2012 20:44, Andy - KU4XR wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> Trying JT9-1 on 160 meters tonite, never TXed with it yet,
> AND, still haven't, I can't get it to switch from RX to TX..
> I can click away on any of the 6 TX buttons, and nothing happens..
> COM Ports is set to " none " for VOX operation.. I can't figure
> out what I have set wrong.. any suggestions appreciated..
>
> TNX, and 73:
>
> Andy - KU4XR
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From w1tag at charter.net  Fri Dec 21 21:44:22 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:44:22 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR/JT9-2 Shootout
In-Reply-To: <50D4CCD9.1050403@charter.net>
References: <50D4CCD9.1050403@charter.net>
Message-ID: <50D51E86.1040601@charter.net>

Will let it run overnight.

John, W1TAG/WD2XES

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 21 23:18:56 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 20:18:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] TA Propagation - Fair Tonite
Message-ID: <1356149936.81312.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Stefan is in straight QRSS tonite, so a bit longer to get
the full ID.. Hope the propagation holds up for a full,
unbroken ID sequence..

Andy - KU4XR
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sat Dec 22 01:51:30 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 01:51:30 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite's results...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W1066EAD2CE36FA4B20B635AC350@phx.gbl>


Good condx for WE6XGR and company this evening.  Band started out a bit anemic but took shape by 2400 or so.  10 decoders hammered out 636 decodes this evening.
Thanks to the following;
PA3ABK/50
PA0O
F4DTL
F59706
G0KTN
VE7BDQ
WW6D
RLS [CALIF]
W0YSE/7
K3SIW
Was going to try 137 tomorrow nite but condx didn't look too inviting on 2200 meters.  Think I'll stay with 600 meters for now.  Would appreciate any comments as to QSYing to the longer waves[?]  73, Bob. 		 	   		  

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 22 02:02:49 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:02:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] 136 KHz Mystery " T " seen in TN, and Alaska
Message-ID: <1356159769.23608.YahooMailClassic@web125306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I first thought it to be random noise, then possibly Mal - G3KEV,
but after the mystery signal repeated a series of carriers; I 
began searching other grabbers to see if it was showing up anywhere
else... To my surprise, the only grabber showing the same signal
is Laurence in Alaska... I'll venture a guess that the signal is
coming from somewhere in Canada... Any claimers ???

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49203948/136%20KHz%20Mystery%20-%20T%2012-22-2012.jpg

Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr

From jgibbs at telus.net  Sat Dec 22 02:09:43 2012
From: jgibbs at telus.net (John Gibbs)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:09:43 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] 136 KHz Mystery " T " seen in TN, and Alaska
In-Reply-To: <1356159769.23608.YahooMailClassic@web125306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1356159769.23608.YahooMailClassic@web125306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50D55CB7.4030901@telus.net>

Seems you  have received my "T"  90 sec dash.  from cn98la ..

Thanks for looking Andy... 


73  John / VE7BDQ



From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 22 02:16:30 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:16:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] 136 KHz Mystery " T " seen in TN, and Alaska
In-Reply-To: <50D55CB7.4030901@telus.net>
Message-ID: <1356160590.96163.YahooMailClassic@web125302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Alll-Right !!! Thanks for the confirmation John..

From jgibbs at telus.net  Sat Dec 22 02:43:25 2012
From: jgibbs at telus.net (John Gibbs)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:43:25 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] 136 KHz Mystery " T " seen in TN, and Alaska
In-Reply-To: <1356160590.96163.YahooMailClassic@web125302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1356160590.96163.YahooMailClassic@web125302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50D5649D.5040506@telus.net>

Slight correction my grid  is CN89LA  sorry for the typo.  looks like 
3486 km  your mileage may vary  hi hi.

My tx is shown here -- http://members.shaw.ca/ve7sl/

Erp about 0.2 watt to inverted L ant, vertical portion 15 metres with a 
40 metre flat top
and a bunch of random grounds and radials. 

Thanks again for being there...

Cheers  John / VE7BDQ




From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 22 02:52:34 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:52:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] 136 KHz Mystery " T " seen in TN, and Alaska
In-Reply-To: <50D5649D.5040506@telus.net>
Message-ID: <1356162754.28210.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>



Having fun... Still showing up here.. I'll post a full screen
capture later today.. gettin pretty sleepy so it's time to
get some Zeez... 73 John, and good DX to you..

Andy - KU4XR

--- On Sat, 12/22/12, John Gibbs <jgibbs at telus.net> wrote:

> Slight correction my grid? is
> CN89LA? sorry for the typo.? looks like 3486
> km? your mileage may vary? hi hi.
> 
> My tx is shown here -- http://members.shaw.ca/ve7sl/
> 
> Erp about 0.2 watt to inverted L ant, vertical portion 15
> metres with a 40 metre flat top
> and a bunch of random grounds and radials. 
> Thanks again for being there...
> 
> Cheers? John / VE7BDQ
> 


From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 22 06:21:00 2012
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:21:00 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR/JT9-2 Shootout
In-Reply-To: <50D4CCD9.1050403@charter.net>
References: <50D4CCD9.1050403@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CAE89MiRM4doxiR=T0vJ6DSK1=4aeNZT+kzPA57YYRqoL7ra-2g@mail.gmail.com>

Got a few late..had bad local noise here
Lloyd W3NF

UTC Date: 2012-Dec-22 03:41
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
0340  10  -18   0.2  1400.0   0   WD2XES FN42                  8  2
0342   0  -21   5.0  1447.6  -2
0344  10  -15  -0.2  1400.0   0   WD2XES FN42                  1  2
0346   2  -30  -0.8  1381.6   0
0348  10  -20   0.2  1400.1   0
0350   0  -24   5.3  1448.1  -2
0352  10  -19   0.0  1400.1   0   WD2XES FN42              12791  2
0354   0  -24   1.5  1447.5   1
0356   6  -16  -0.3  1400.0   0   WD2XES FN42                  1  2
0358   1  -16   1.9  1447.3  -1
0400  10  -18   0.2  1400.0   0   WD2XES FN42                  6  2
0402  10  -26   2.4  1430.5   0
0404  10  -29   3.7  1410.2   0


On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 8:55 PM, John Andrews <w1tag at charter.net> wrote:

> WD2XES will be running WSPR and JT9-2 at the same time on 136 kHz USB
> tonight, starting around 2200 UTC. The WSPR signal will be at a 1450 Hz
> offset, and the JT9-2 signal at 1400 Hz. Power level of each signal will be
> 6dB below normal, to allow for the capabilities of the linear amplifier.
> Comparisons are invited.
>
> John, W1TAG/WD2XES
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec 22 07:18:44 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 06:18:44 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] XJ (WG2XJM) and MP on 137 kHz
Message-ID: <50D5A524.6040602@sbcglobal.net>

Good signals before local sunrise from XJ and XM.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sat Dec 22 07:57:52 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 07:57:52 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] last night
Message-ID: <CABP+t7YxtoF16wCc4CX2U2yohphq8xcAyPXOw9-zxSAna8G-Qg@mail.gmail.com>

Stuck with WSPR last night. Managed seven unique decodes, both on LF and
MF. Still no transatlantic decodes.

It's now officially Winter, the Mayan calandar expired and we're still here.

73, Doug KB4OER

2012-12-22 03:12 WE2XGR/2 0.475632 +3 0 FN31ls 50  KB4OER EM86ui 999
236 2012-12-22
02:46 WF2XXQ 0.475729  -13 0 EL95tq 0.05 KB4OER EM86ui 1200 352  2012-12-22
02:46 WG2XIQ 0.475672 -11 0 EM12mp 1  KB4OER EM86ui 1404 69 2012-12-22
02:34 WD2XNS 0.475632  +3 0 FN31ls 1 KB4OER EM86ui 999 236  2012-12-22
02:00 WG2XKA 0.475776 -19 0 FN33ir 0.2  KB4OER EM86ui 1121 226 2012-12-22
01:56 WG2XJM 0.137581  -10 0 EN91wr 0.1 KB4OER EM86ui 626 198  2012-12-22
01:54 WD2XES 0.137451 -24 0 FN42ch 5  KB4OER EM86ui 1119 237

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sat Dec 22 08:00:27 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 08:00:27 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] TA Propagation - Fair Tonite
In-Reply-To: <1356149936.81312.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1356149936.81312.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7ZQvh+3-X__h19Po9N8J3w9grH+PFiqN=HLr2RGid+vqg@mail.gmail.com>

Rats. A missed opportunity for me.

Looks like you were getting a good signal there, Andy.

May have to resubscribe to the RSGB LF list. It has soooo much traffic!

73, Doug KB4OER

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Stefan is in straight QRSS tonite, so a bit longer to get
> the full ID.. Hope the propagation holds up for a full,
> unbroken ID sequence..
>
> Andy - KU4XR
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From kc0vsj at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 22 08:07:07 2012
From: kc0vsj at yahoo.com (Tom Clifton)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 05:07:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Mulicoupler (Splitters)
Message-ID: <1356181627.63179.YahooMailNeo@web161604.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

These are extremely easy to build yourself, and if you want more control over the usable frequency, change toroid core materiel. ?Below are two links - one has a single toroid splitter, the other uses two toroids. The big difference is that the two toroid unit has 50 ohm on all three ports, while the single toroid has 25 ohm on the input and 50 ohm on the output. ?The article on the two toroid unit explains more.

http://www.dh1tw.de/3db-splitter
?
http://www.dxing.info/equipment/rolling_your_own_bryant.dx
?

Diz - our friendly neighborhood Toroid King?http://www.kitsandparts.com/index.php ?is now stocking the FT50-75(J) ?This is a very good choice for broadband splitters, but there is no reason not to use the T50 parts for specific bands. ? Magnet wire is cheap, and toroid cores are re-usable... ? (On the two toroid design, it is easy to stick in a series resonant inductor in 'the middle' to shunt Broadcast band to ground if you want to play with it)

Myself, a simple spliter behind an active antenna is the bees-knees....

73 - Tom in St. Louis

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Dec 22 08:38:40 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 08:38:40 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG in CT
Message-ID: <006601cde049$a71e7d00$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Up on grabber 1 for a while ... http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html . Spurious from SJ readily 
apparent.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 


From dexter.mc at gmail.com  Sat Dec 22 09:35:03 2012
From: dexter.mc at gmail.com (Dexter McIntyre W4DEX)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:35:03 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SJ WMS TAG in NC
Message-ID: <50D5C517.2020406@gmail.com>



https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15095569/w4dex/lowfer/22dec1200005.jpg

From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Dec 22 09:41:23 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:41:23 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XES 136 WSPR
In-Reply-To: <006601cde049$a71e7d00$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <006601cde049$a71e7d00$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <A57E6F70-8FE5-4E21-BC67-2397656DC72C@hurontel.on.ca>

I left WSPR running overnight here and found upon checking this morning WD2XES was decoded nicely overnight.
Still the "false" decodes problem here, which I'll have to dig deeper into to see if I can find a cure.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sat Dec 22 10:15:58 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:15:58 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Mulicoupler (Splitters)
In-Reply-To: <1356181627.63179.YahooMailNeo@web161604.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1356181627.63179.YahooMailNeo@web161604.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7Y25gBR87nzpFujU_bO+Bm6U6rZ7Pm6upPrjmm9i++ACw@mail.gmail.com>

Great links, Tom. I had never before seen either one of them.
On Dec 22, 2012 8:07 AM, "Tom Clifton" <kc0vsj at yahoo.com> wrote:

> These are extremely easy to build yourself, and if you want more control
> over the usable frequency, change toroid core materiel.  Below are two
> links - one has a single toroid splitter, the other uses two toroids. The
> big difference is that the two toroid unit has 50 ohm on all three ports,
> while the single toroid has 25 ohm on the input and 50 ohm on the output.
>  The article on the two toroid unit explains more.
>
> http://www.dh1tw.de/3db-splitter
>
> http://www.dxing.info/equipment/rolling_your_own_bryant.dx
>
>
> Diz - our friendly neighborhood Toroid King
> http://www.kitsandparts.com/index.php  is now stocking the FT50-75(J)
>  This is a very good choice for broadband splitters, but there is no reason
> not to use the T50 parts for specific bands.   Magnet wire is cheap, and
> toroid cores are re-usable...   (On the two toroid design, it is easy to
> stick in a series resonant inductor in 'the middle' to shunt Broadcast band
> to ground if you want to play with it)
>
> Myself, a simple spliter behind an active antenna is the bees-knees....
>
> 73 - Tom in St. Louis
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 22 10:36:44 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 07:36:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] DK7FC in Friendsville, TN.
Message-ID: <1356190604.46742.YahooMailClassic@web125302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Around a 3 hour window here,

Andy - KU4XR
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Dec 22 10:37:43 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:37:43 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] EAR in CT
Message-ID: <002501cde05a$490d76b0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Halfway decent 'middle of the day' copy of EAR at 461 mi / 743 km ... not normally visible this time 
of day unless condx are good.

Grabber 2 at  http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html . Several 'intruders' at this location ...

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sat Dec 22 11:17:38 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:17:38 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] audio mixer
Message-ID: <CABP+t7acvxs+s7Rc3ocq260w2rXPDkkmUrWDTzHc9HhxGjn4wA@mail.gmail.com>

Years ago, I had a set of Altec Lansing PC speakers, now lost in the mists
of time, that had two 3.5mm stereo audio inputs on the back of the
subwoofer. The speakers would mix the sound of the two inputs, so that you
could hear two different audio sources simultaneously. I have owned at
least two other sets of computer speakers since then. While both of them
had 3.5mm "auxiliary" input ports, whenever you plugged anything into the
auxiliary port, you no longer heard audio from the main input.

I have limited desk space, and I run two different computers. It would be
very nice to be able to connect the two computers, which are themselves
connected to two different receivers, into one set of PC speakers, and have
the audio mixed together so as not to have to switch between one or the
other.

Found this little device today:

http://www.stoweblank.com/tinymix


It can be use actively or passively, and is powered through a usb port.
Amazon.com has it with free shipping, and it received good reviews.

The only thing that would make it better would be individual volume
controls on the unit itself, but that's no biggie as that can be controlled
through Windows.

73, Doug KB4OER

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 22 11:23:34 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 08:23:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] BDQ sending " T "
Message-ID: <1356193414.29138.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

2,060 miles +/-, and all across land. Good propagation last night

Andy - KU4XR
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Dec 22 11:54:31 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:54:31 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] EAR in CT
In-Reply-To: <002501cde05a$490d76b0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <002501cde05a$490d76b0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <AAAA1A0B-C38A-4542-9107-3F94A768B1AE@hurontel.on.ca>

Hello Jay & Lowfers,

Thanks for the report and capture of EAR at mid-day!  I only had one antenna fail from the high winds
we've had here for three days.  It was the E-W random wire for my xtal radios, the N-S one survived.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sat Dec 22 14:41:30 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 14:41:30 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Multicoupler
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7ZTvNduBh3ytwnDFmZP6+HocdL4A197vydmVKNYutPmmA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <010e01cddf95$536d3700$fa47a500$@verizon.net>
	<CABP+t7ZTvNduBh3ytwnDFmZP6+HocdL4A197vydmVKNYutPmmA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7aLpcfn=d30XYL5ugCffzX_ALc=RPOcu1AOCh6TzSocBA@mail.gmail.com>

Actually, I was in error about the KIWA unit being superior in port to port
isolation. It is, from the handwritten specs that KIWA supplied to me,
about equal to the published specs of the Stridsburg unit.

The KIWA unit, although being custom built, was still less expensive (about
$100 less) than the Stridsburg unit you linked. The Stridsburg unit you
linked, however, has no loss from the input port to the four output ports,
due to incorporating an active amp. Plus, the Stridsburg unit has four
output ports.....twice as many.

Again, thank your for bringing this to our attention. It seems, from the
specs and pictures, to be a very well made and rugged splitter for those of
us interested in VLF/LF.

73, Doug KB4OER





On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com>wrote:

> David,
>
> Thank you for bringing this product to our attention.
>
> I recently (within the last six months) had Kiwa Electronics custom build
> a two port splitter/combiner with a frequency response of 1.5 kHz to 2.0
> MHz. I have been extremely pleased with the Kiwa unit, and have been using
> it to use the same active whip antenna with two different receivers.
>
> The unit you linked has a narrower frequency response (which may be a good
> thing if you have no interest in receiving above 500 kHz), twice as many
> output ports, and appears to have a built in amplifier to eliminate the
> inherent loss in a passive device. The Kiwa unit I had built is completely
> passive, goes lower and higher in frequency, has greater port to port
> isolation (if I remember correctly), and has an inherent 6dB loss from the
> input port to the two output ports. Also, it appears to me that the Kiwa
> unit, being passive, would allow you to use two different antennas with one
> receiver, while the Stridsberg unit, having an active amp, would only be
> intended to be used as a splitter.
>
> The unit you linked appears to be solidly built. I would wonder if, since
> it has an active amp, it is able to be easily opened up and repaired by the
> end user should a failure happen? Hopefully, it's not "potted" like some
> European devices I have purchased in the past.
>
> 73, Doug KB4OER
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:07 AM, David L. Wilson <dwilson314 at verizon.net>wrote:
>
>> I have noted that Stridsburg has a 4 output active multicoupler now for
>> VLF/LF.   I can be found on
>> http://www.stridsberg.com/prod01.htm Look for MCA04VLF.  I have ordered
>> one
>> to see how well it works.
>> Has anyone tried one of these?
>>
>>
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From jgibbs at telus.net  Sat Dec 22 16:14:49 2012
From: jgibbs at telus.net (John Gibbs)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 13:14:49 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] BDQ sending " T "
In-Reply-To: <1356193414.29138.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1356193414.29138.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50D622C9.7010701@telus.net>

Andy...

Thanks for posting the capture... I turned things off at 1053z .. maybe 
should have left it running..


73 John / VE7BDQ



From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sat Dec 22 17:00:35 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:00:35 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJ & MP on 137
Message-ID: <CD8079C155B14F078842041BF84990F3@MichaelSappPC>

Eric & All:  Here's XJ on 137.78~ kHZ with a 50dB pad on the output port of the HD-1420....still greater than
10 dB above the background noise in EN90xn.

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/xj1_zps2265e497.jpg

 No copy on MP at that 50 attenuator level, but
Mitch's MP signal is copyable here with 40dB of IF attenuation.

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/mp40db_zps166db5de.jpg


ARGO tracks dBs well as Eric was -31 with no attenuation and -80.6 with the 50 dB pad in line


http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/xj1_zps38f94032.jpg

73  Mike wa3tts

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sat Dec 22 17:15:49 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:15:49 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MP with no IF attenuation ( & NA visible)
Message-ID: <FD84A800863C4DE885E617DC36B9F190@MichaelSappPC>

Mitch & All:  Here is MP on the left side with 40dB of IF padding and on the right side with no IF attenuation.

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/mpnopad_zps90ab83c3.jpg

NA also visible on the bottom right.

73  Mike wa3tts

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sat Dec 22 17:17:14 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:17:14 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W5087C18F2BCFA2FC1FA0EFAC350@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR will be staying on 498 Dial 499.5 Tx freq for now-until it gets colder. All decodes appreciated-Bob 		 	   		  

From pbunn at patbunn.com  Sat Dec 22 17:32:43 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (Pat Bunn)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:32:43 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer WSPR
Message-ID: <142262tkur1vr2ir4erlo2io.1356215563770@email.android.com>

Copying WG2XKA early . Noise here is very low.

From h-wolff at gmx.de  Sat Dec 22 17:45:10 2012
From: h-wolff at gmx.de (Hartmut Wolff)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 23:45:10 +0100
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite...
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W5087C18F2BCFA2FC1FA0EFAC350@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W5087C18F2BCFA2FC1FA0EFAC350@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <50D637F6.9000003@gmx.de>

Am 2012-12-22 23:17, wrote Bob Raide:
>
> WE6XGR will be staying on 498 Dial 499.5 Tx freq for now-until it gets colder. All decodes appreciated-Bob 		 	   		

Early decode here:

2204 -27 -0.6   0.499507  0 WE6XGR FN12 47

73
DL-SWL


From wb8skp at gmail.com  Sat Dec 22 18:21:06 2012
From: wb8skp at gmail.com (Denis G. Barton)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:21:06 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite...
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W5087C18F2BCFA2FC1FA0EFAC350@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W5087C18F2BCFA2FC1FA0EFAC350@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1356218466.2150.2.camel@denis-P7515A-ABA-531w>

Bob,

Nothing here yet in Western Ky.

Denis
WB8SKP



From w1tag at charter.net  Sat Dec 22 18:26:26 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 18:26:26 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XES Very QRP WSPR/JT9-2 Shootout
Message-ID: <50D641A2.1010407@charter.net>

WD2XES is running the same WSPR and JT9-2 shootout tonight, but with 
only 0.5 watt per carrier transmitter output power. That's probably 
about 1 mw ERP. Go for it. As was the case last night, use 136.0 kHz 
USB, and the JT9-2 signal will be at 1400 Hz, and the WSPR at 1450 Hz.

Will let it run overnight.

John, W1TAG/WD2XES

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Dec 22 18:35:19 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 18:35:19 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] NA in CT
Message-ID: <001501cde09d$017ae150$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Nice signal from NA tonight ... 25 dB s/n in 28 mHz.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec 22 19:28:52 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 18:28:52 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] NA in CT
Message-ID: <50D65044.6010701@sbcglobal.net>

Great copy Jay. NA is just starting to show up here, thanks to a new 
e-probe to replace the one that broke off in the recent storm.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From kkrallis at tee.gr  Sat Dec 22 19:56:16 2012
From: kkrallis at tee.gr (Costas Krallis)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 02:56:16 +0200
Subject: [Lowfer] SX beacon 474.5 kHz
Message-ID: <50D656B0.5060008@tee.gr>


I receive a beacon repeating "SX" (or "XS")
on 474.5 kHz CW at 0045 UTC. See spectrum capture:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/g7ahn/8298896984/

73 Costas SV1XV

-- 
+------------------------------------------------------------+
| Costas Krallis SV1XV      *   LOC KM18UA                   |
| P.O.Box 3066              *   E-Mail:                      |
| GR-10210 Athens           *   PGP key: 0x07F2AAD0          |
| GREECE                    *   http://www.qsl.net/sv1xv/    |
+------------------------------------------------------------+


From kkrallis at tee.gr  Sat Dec 22 20:02:21 2012
From: kkrallis at tee.gr (Costas Krallis)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 03:02:21 +0200
Subject: [Lowfer] Beacon SV1AYC active
Message-ID: <50D6581D.7070404@tee.gr>

Beacon SV1AYC is now at 01:00 UTC active on
478.7 kHz CW

73 Costas SV1XV


-- 
+------------------------------------------------------------+
| Costas Krallis SV1XV      *   LOC KM18UA                   |
| P.O.Box 3066              *   E-Mail:                      |
| GR-10210 Athens           *   PGP key: 0x07F2AAD0          |
| GREECE                    *   http://www.qsl.net/sv1xv/    |
+------------------------------------------------------------+


From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sat Dec 22 21:37:42 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:37:42 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] NA in CT
In-Reply-To: <50D65044.6010701@sbcglobal.net>
References: <50D65044.6010701@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7YBWszDPKNaF+6nKKjae01SrF7895D+7HDoVuA5JYnvMQ@mail.gmail.com>

NA doing well in TN also.

73, Doug KB4OER

On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Garry Hess <k3siw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Great copy Jay. NA is just starting to show up here, thanks to a new
> e-probe to replace the one that broke off in the recent storm.
> --
> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
>
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Sat Dec 22 23:08:06 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (K2ORS)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 23:08:06 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 CW
Message-ID: <89213645C49F42AC87F4AEDA6CD5F33D@DC66PRF1>

WE2XGR/1  506.3 CW

Reports welcome!

73 K2ORS

From k2ors at verizon.net  Sat Dec 22 23:09:17 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (K2ORS)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 23:09:17 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 QRSS 6
Message-ID: <F2FC94B6662E426FAF4D61A6EC56A4FA@DC66PRF1>

WD2XGJ is on 136.745 QRSS 6

Reports welcome!

73 K2ORS


From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sun Dec 23 01:59:19 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 01:59:19 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W15C55DA57A17F45D04B04FAC340@phx.gbl>


WE2XGR/6 [WE6XGR on WSPR mode] enjoyed some good 600 meter condx tonite.  Over 1000 spots from a fine group of decoders... Will be staying on 600 M for the next few days.  Once the WX gets colder 137 is next in line for some WSPR work.
11 fine ops made up tonites decoders;
VE7BDQ
F4DTL
PI4THT
PA3ABK/50
PA0O
G0KTN
F59706
DL-SWL
W0YSE/7
WB8SKP
K3SIW
Hope to see y'all tomorrow night-hear, 73-Bob 		 	   		  

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec 23 07:18:54 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:18:54 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] successful transatlantic LF WSPR decode
Message-ID: <CABP+t7by6LJ3cECF+8BkHniH4ZP4u4JF=YRrt1-i15+NXDEc3g@mail.gmail.com>

Happy to report I was finally able to decode Stefan DK7FC on LF after
several nights of trying.

73, Doug KB4OER


TimestampCallMHzSNRDriftGridPwrReporterRGridkmaz 2012-12-23 05:12
DK7FC 0.137461
-27 0 JN49ik 1 KB4OER EM86ui 7096 296 2012-12-23 05:06 DK7FC 0.137461
-29 0 JN49ik
1 KB4OER EM86ui 7096 296

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec 23 07:24:15 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:24:15 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Part 5 Watering Hole in TN
Message-ID: <CABP+t7ZRfP4N-hUO0w4bDA00Qjb4-9K8acdSFpuccO9=QfE-jg@mail.gmail.com>

Lots of good signals ~ 137.777 kHz.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33457409/137777HZ.jpg


73, Doug KB4OER

From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 23 07:36:02 2012
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:36:02 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 QRSS 6
In-Reply-To: <F2FC94B6662E426FAF4D61A6EC56A4FA@DC66PRF1>
References: <F2FC94B6662E426FAF4D61A6EC56A4FA@DC66PRF1>
Message-ID: <CAE89MiRcuyvNCmguiG2W354zZk+YZAM4vg+=-+p97=et97GcbA@mail.gmail.com>

7AM copy hr ..nice on xgj but only noise on xgr
Lloyd W3NF

On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 4:09 AM, K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:

> WD2XGJ is on 136.745 QRSS 6
>
> Reports welcome!
>
> 73 K2ORS
>
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sun Dec 23 07:47:04 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:47:04 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WMS SIW TAG in CT
Message-ID: <005301cde10b$9c3b3c30$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Decent copy of WMS, SIW and TAG (off back of antenna) using latest SJ mitigation technique. Traces 
of SJ still can be  seen 'raining down' on the spectrogram. Capture available at top of 
http://www.w1vd.com/interestinggrab.html .

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 


From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sun Dec 23 07:48:25 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:48:25 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] successful transatlantic LF WSPR decode
References: <CABP+t7by6LJ3cECF+8BkHniH4ZP4u4JF=YRrt1-i15+NXDEc3g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005801cde10b$ccd651e0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Doug

Saw that last night in the database. Congrats! Which antenna were you using?

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec 23 07:50:42 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 06:50:42 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 QRSS 6
Message-ID: <50D6FE22.5060506@sbcglobal.net>

Moved on to Navtex by 6 AM here (CST), but earlier in the evening XGJ 
copy was good and WE2XGR/1 on 506.3 kHz CW was generally audible with 
full SSB noise bandwidth.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec 23 07:54:04 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:54:04 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] successful transatlantic LF WSPR decode
In-Reply-To: <005801cde10b$ccd651e0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <CABP+t7by6LJ3cECF+8BkHniH4ZP4u4JF=YRrt1-i15+NXDEc3g@mail.gmail.com>
	<005801cde10b$ccd651e0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7aherqkKai7Go+CpgUuJ3eeLRGt5oAVyFEOahE8b+mwiQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Jay. I was using the Clifton Labs active whip. I have it about 50'
from my house with the base up about 16'. I think the land clearing I had
done about a month ago has improved my reception.

-73, Doug

On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 7:48 AM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> Doug
>
> Saw that last night in the database. Congrats! Which antenna were you
> using?
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec 23 07:54:05 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 06:54:05 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WMS SIW TAG in CT
Message-ID: <50D6FEED.2080201@sbcglobal.net>

Jay, thanks for the nice capture of lowfers at the watering hole over night.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec 23 07:55:41 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 06:55:41 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] successful transatlantic LF WSPR decode
Message-ID: <50D6FF4D.3050400@sbcglobal.net>

Doug, Congratulations on that very impressive WSPR decode!
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec 23 08:05:27 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 08:05:27 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] graphical ID?
Message-ID: <CABP+t7bPgAkGR_n3KfH=PQihXKb=2D3F-eSKV92zaqq9uyHa2Q@mail.gmail.com>

Getting this right now on 137.782 kHz. You can see MP right below.

ID?
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From dexter.mc at gmail.com  Sun Dec 23 08:41:27 2012
From: dexter.mc at gmail.com (Dexter McIntyre W4DEX)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 08:41:27 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG all night in NC
Message-ID: <50D70A07.6020806@gmail.com>

Most consistent all night long TAG copy I've ever seen.  Most all 
captures looks about this good:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15095569/w4dex/lowfer/23dec1200009.jpg

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 23 08:44:41 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 05:44:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] successful transatlantic LF WSPR decode
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7by6LJ3cECF+8BkHniH4ZP4u4JF=YRrt1-i15+NXDEc3g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1356270281.70500.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Congrats Doug.. and there's probably more to come..

73, and Merry Christmas

Andy

--- On Sun, 12/23/12, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Happy to report I was finally able to
> decode Stefan DK7FC on LF after
> several nights of trying.
> 
> 73, Doug KB4OER
> 
> 
> TimestampCallMHzSNRDriftGridPwrReporterRGridkmaz 2012-12-23
> 05:12
> DK7FC 0.137461
> -27 0 JN49ik 1 KB4OER EM86ui 7096 296 2012-12-23 05:06 DK7FC
> 0.137461
> -29 0 JN49ik> 1 KB4OER EM86ui 7096 296
> ______________________________________________________________


From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec 23 08:53:07 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:53:07 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] graphical ID?
Message-ID: <50D70CC3.7050203@sbcglobal.net>

Doug, that must be WG2XJM sending a neat, cursive "XJ". I'm seeing it 
here too.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec 23 09:00:26 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 09:00:26 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] graphical ID?
In-Reply-To: <50D70CC3.7050203@sbcglobal.net>
References: <50D70CC3.7050203@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7bu6afoyANNsOMpaQypAKmgWqZ4vi9RhhHPsX9rD+19mA@mail.gmail.com>

Heh, I see it now. That's cool.

73, Doug KB4OER

On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Garry Hess <k3siw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Doug, that must be WG2XJM sending a neat, cursive "XJ". I'm seeing it here
> too.
> --
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec 23 09:02:41 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 08:02:41 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] graphical ID
Message-ID: <50D70F01.3080200@sbcglobal.net>

Here's a frequency vs time capture of WG2XJM sending "J", with MP 
finishing a transmission lower in frequency.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec 23 09:06:01 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 08:06:01 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 518 kHz Navtex
Message-ID: <50D70FC9.4020806@sbcglobal.net>

Navtex signals were plentiful over night, but nothing decoded from 
Kodiak, AK. Did decode 11 area 4 stations (including Greenland, Bermuda, 
and Puerto Rico) and 4 area 12 stations (got Tofino, BC briefly but 
never saw Prince Rupert).
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sun Dec 23 09:16:39 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 09:16:39 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XGJ on 136.745 in EN90xn
Message-ID: <4230D855762D41BCB5C0F5EA0FABCF7D@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All: Here's XGJ on 136.745  Sunday AM.....


http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/xgj1223_zps46327605.jpg


73  Mike wa3tts

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sun Dec 23 09:18:29 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 09:18:29 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG all night in NC
References: <50D70A07.6020806@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003301cde118$61f4cbb0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Capture makes one curious about SJ's transmitter power ...

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dexter McIntyre W4DEX" <dexter.mc at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 8:41 AM
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG all night in NC


> Most consistent all night long TAG copy I've ever seen.  Most all 
> captures looks about this good:
> 
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15095569/w4dex/lowfer/23dec1200009.jpg
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From w1tag at charter.net  Sun Dec 23 09:46:40 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 09:46:40 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG all night in NC
In-Reply-To: <003301cde118$61f4cbb0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <50D70A07.6020806@gmail.com>
	<003301cde118$61f4cbb0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <50D71950.2090203@charter.net>

Although SJ is 582 mi from Dex, vs 795 mi for TAG (diff=213 mi), 
something does seem to be working better there...

On 12/23/2012 9:18 AM, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
> Capture makes one curious about SJ's transmitter power ...
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dexter McIntyre W4DEX"
> <dexter.mc at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands"
> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 8:41 AM
> Subject: [Lowfer] TAG all night in NC
>
>
>> Most consistent all night long TAG copy I've ever seen.  Most all
>> captures looks about this good:
>>
>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15095569/w4dex/lowfer/23dec1200009.jpg
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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Sun Dec 23 10:12:11 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (Pat Bunn)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:12:11 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT QRSS beacon 497.0 KHz
Message-ID: <wliqh423u6jyw28irykxpl2y.1356275531578@email.android.com>

Running WG2XCT QRSS3 all day today and tonight.  497.0 KHz

Pat
N4LTA
WG2XCT

From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 23 11:05:35 2012
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:05:35 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT QRSS beacon 497.0 KHz
In-Reply-To: <wliqh423u6jyw28irykxpl2y.1356275531578@email.android.com>
References: <wliqh423u6jyw28irykxpl2y.1356275531578@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CAE89MiSMOtYiB95bVtv0DcNX8CQ1AS20nNkEaayTFbgqba1FTg@mail.gmail.com>

This is what I see
lloyd W3NF

On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Pat Bunn <pbunn at patbunn.com> wrote:

> Running WG2XCT QRSS3 all day today and tonight.  497.0 KHz
>
> Pat
> N4LTA
> WG2XCT
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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Sun Dec 23 12:23:07 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (Pat Bunn)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:23:07 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT QRSS beacon 497.0 KHz
Message-ID: <7utmvwdebu9b63jp2rr1k7fd.1356283387561@email.android.com>

That's not WG2XCT . Just checked it and it is sending the QRSS 3 message and the cw id   properly. At least that is what I am copying on my portable.

Pat
N4LTA

lloyd chastant <lloydc6 at gmail.com> wrote:

>This is what I see
>lloyd W3NF
>
>On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Pat Bunn <pbunn at patbunn.com> wrote:
>
>> Running WG2XCT QRSS3 all day today and tonight.  497.0 KHz
>>
>> Pat
>> N4LTA
>> WG2XCT
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From smokinggun at verizon.net  Sun Dec 23 12:35:34 2012
From: smokinggun at verizon.net (rick kirby)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:35:34 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] PBO - BACK ON THE AIR
Message-ID: <27F60A07C3014F4494CC6E9C4EB0DEB6@radioroom>

No real improvements made but will leave it running anyway.

 

  73

       Rick  KA2PBO


From dexter.mc at gmail.com  Sun Dec 23 14:24:57 2012
From: dexter.mc at gmail.com (Dexter McIntyre W4DEX)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:24:57 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 2 p.m. SJ on NC Grabber
Message-ID: <50D75A89.1030208@gmail.com>

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15095569/w4dex/grabber1_00000.jpg

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec 23 16:34:23 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:34:23 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] successful transatlantic LF WSPR decode
In-Reply-To: <1356270281.70500.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <CABP+t7by6LJ3cECF+8BkHniH4ZP4u4JF=YRrt1-i15+NXDEc3g@mail.gmail.com>
	<1356270281.70500.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7ZBJRwxN3Afw93=BDVm1JJ40EzrWgWdw07=vm=5f6=QsQ@mail.gmail.com>

All,

I just heard back from Stefan.

"That's an amazing result, most probably the best DX on LF in WSPR ever!

It was even a 33% TX ratio in WSPR last night (each 6 minutes) so it is
likely that you would have got a few more decodes if it would run 100% like
the day before.
Low QRM/N, constructive QSB and good propagation must come together to make
that distance in that mode i think!"


He goes on to say that he will be back on QRSS tonight, DFCW90 on 136.172.

Many thanks to Stefan for providing such good signals for us to try for.

73, Doug KB4OER


On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Congrats Doug.. and there's probably more to come..
>
> 73, and Merry Christmas
>
> Andy
>
> --- On Sun, 12/23/12, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Happy to report I was finally able to
> > decode Stefan DK7FC on LF after
> > several nights of trying.
> >
> > 73, Doug KB4OER
> >
> >
> > TimestampCallMHzSNRDriftGridPwrReporterRGridkmaz 2012-12-23
> > 05:12
> > DK7FC 0.137461
> > -27 0 JN49ik 1 KB4OER EM86ui 7096 296 2012-12-23 05:06 DK7FC
> > 0.137461
> > -29 0 JN49ik> 1 KB4OER EM86ui 7096 296
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec 23 16:49:10 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:49:10 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] waterfall of Lowfer band
Message-ID: <CABP+t7Y3RzCaenPEGrnROq=hrPGRhMpbARKx5izMLC1asmBisA@mail.gmail.com>

Tried something mildly interesting a few minutes ago with the SDR. This is
waterfall jpg of the entire Lowfer band (well, slightly more, 155-195 kHz)
in the daytime at my QTH. The frequency markers at the bottom are hard to
make out. You can see all the steady carriers, most of which are probably
PLCs. You can also see the carrier on the right side of the screen, around
185 kHz, which seems to be regularly sending some sort of data pulse. This
one is always very active and is the one that interferes with the "watering
hole" at my QTH.

There is also some sort of weird signal around 170 kHz, which almost looks
like MSK, but is just some sort of noise when you listen to it.

At least Loran is gone.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33457409/155to195kHz.jpeg

-Doug KB4OER

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sun Dec 23 17:01:02 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:01:02 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonight...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W3772C4F8A28CD879482A59AC340@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR NY starts at 2230Z usual 498 kHz Dial freq 499.5 Tx freq for the evening-all and any decodes appreciated-Bob 		 	   		  

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sun Dec 23 17:08:20 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:08:20 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 137778 graphics ...
References: <50D75A89.1030208@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006d01cde15a$05159860$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Dex

Tnx for the look at 137778. Hard to tell locally exactly how it will look at a distance.

> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15095569/w4dex/grabber1_00000.jpg


Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec 23 17:19:08 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:19:08 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 137778 graphics ...
In-Reply-To: <006d01cde15a$05159860$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <50D75A89.1030208@gmail.com>
	<006d01cde15a$05159860$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7ZrsJN82VG2DJ+vxhnu2AaB24Cz5i_WsDFnMZ-n8RMpZA@mail.gmail.com>

Wow, that's nice!

Changing frequency now. Thanks for the heads-up.

73, Doug KB4OER

On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 5:08 PM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> Dex
>
> Tnx for the look at 137778. Hard to tell locally exactly how it will look
> at a distance.
>
>  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/**15095569/w4dex/grabber1_00000.**jpg<http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15095569/w4dex/grabber1_00000.jpg>
>>
>
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Sun Dec 23 19:13:48 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (K2ORS)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:13:48 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonight...
References: <BLU162-W3772C4F8A28CD879482A59AC340@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <D35A0A51217D45ACA6F20FE7D051AFCF@DC66PRF1>

Hope to see you on 510usb at 9!

73 Warren


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Raide" <rjraide at hotmail.com>
To: "Bob Raide" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 5:01 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonight...


>
> WE6XGR NY starts at 2230Z usual 498 kHz Dial freq 499.5 Tx freq for the 
> evening-all and any decodes appreciated-Bob
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec 23 19:20:15 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 18:20:15 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 137778 graphics ...
Message-ID: <50D79FBF.6030207@sbcglobal.net>

Very impressive display, Jay et al.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sun Dec 23 19:47:42 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:47:42 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] VLF
Message-ID: <000a01cde170$48650860$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Checking VLF in preparation for SAQ transmission tomorrow morning. Note strong Alpha beeps as well 
as VTX2 India 17.0 kHz  coming through nicely. Hoping condx are favorable in the wee hours.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

 


From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sun Dec 23 19:49:03 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:49:03 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 137778 graphics ...
References: <50D79FBF.6030207@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <001501cde170$78c474a0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Garry

Thanks for the capture ... nice copy! 

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garry Hess" <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>
To: "lowfer list" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] 137778 graphics ...


> Very impressive display, Jay et al.
> -- 
> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
>


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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Sun Dec 23 19:56:24 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 00:56:24 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] waterfall of Lowfer band
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7Y3RzCaenPEGrnROq=hrPGRhMpbARKx5izMLC1asmBisA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABP+t7Y3RzCaenPEGrnROq=hrPGRhMpbARKx5izMLC1asmBisA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B841C66759745E6B90A07E007E3AAB5@PatBunnShopPC>

Doug,

I have that same interfering carrier near 185 here also. aLWAYS VERY LOUD.

pAT

-----Original Message----- 
From: Douglas D. Williams 
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 9:49 PM 
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp,UK) and MedFer bands 
Subject: [Lowfer] waterfall of Lowfer band 

Tried something mildly interesting a few minutes ago with the SDR. This is
waterfall jpg of the entire Lowfer band (well, slightly more, 155-195 kHz)
in the daytime at my QTH. The frequency markers at the bottom are hard to
make out. You can see all the steady carriers, most of which are probably
PLCs. You can also see the carrier on the right side of the screen, around
185 kHz, which seems to be regularly sending some sort of data pulse. This
one is always very active and is the one that interferes with the "watering
hole" at my QTH.

There is also some sort of weird signal around 170 kHz, which almost looks
like MSK, but is just some sort of noise when you listen to it.

At least Loran is gone.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33457409/155to195kHz.jpeg

-Doug KB4OER
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 23 20:25:58 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:25:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Online Audio from KU4XR
Message-ID: <1356312358.80435.YahooMailClassic@web125302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Hi all:

Anyone who will take the time to try to log on to my
audio stream, and let me know if it is working, I will 
greatly appreciate it..

Open your media player, and " play the URL "

http://75.136.215.123:8000

TNX... Andy - KU4XR

From k2ors at verizon.net  Sun Dec 23 20:34:07 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:34:07 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Online Audio from KU4XR
In-Reply-To: <1356312358.80435.YahooMailClassic@web125302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1356312358.80435.YahooMailClassic@web125302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50D7B10F.5040109@verizon.net>

Hi Andy,


      I get a pop-up asking for the admin username and password.

73 Warren


On 12/23/2012 8:25 PM, Andy - KU4XR wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> Anyone who will take the time to try to log on to my
> audio stream, and let me know if it is working, I will
> greatly appreciate it..
>
> Open your media player, and " play the URL "
>
> http://75.136.215.123:8000
>
> TNX... Andy - KU4XR
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec 23 20:37:36 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:37:36 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 137778 graphics ...
In-Reply-To: <001501cde170$78c474a0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <50D79FBF.6030207@sbcglobal.net>
	<001501cde170$78c474a0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7a-+c2_8-kV7wcvaSfVEjF=Td-u-TJXr29A-9eZpKuBuA@mail.gmail.com>

Looking good in TN also!

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33457409/graphicalid.jpg

73, Doug KB4OER

On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 7:49 PM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> Garry
>
> Thanks for the capture ... nice copy!
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garry Hess" <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "lowfer list" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] 137778 graphics ...
>
>
>
>  Very impressive display, Jay et al.
>> --
>> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
>>
>>
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From cls at employees.org  Sun Dec 23 20:40:41 2012
From: cls at employees.org (Cliff Sojourner)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:40:41 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Online Audio from KU4XR
In-Reply-To: <1356312358.80435.YahooMailClassic@web125302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1356312358.80435.YahooMailClassic@web125302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50D7B299.7070506@employees.org>

works fine for me, using VLC (VideoLAN) on XP.  MS Media Player 11 says 
"unrecognised media type or missing codec" which is a laugh

Cliff K6CLS  CM87

On 2012-12-23 17:25, Andy - KU4XR wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> Anyone who will take the time to try to log on to my
> audio stream, and let me know if it is working, I will
> greatly appreciate it..
>
> Open your media player, and " play the URL "
>
> http://75.136.215.123:8000
>
> TNX... Andy - KU4XR
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 23 20:41:27 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:41:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Online Audio from KU4XR
In-Reply-To: <50D7B10F.5040109@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1356313287.2172.YahooMailClassic@web125306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Warren, Please try again.. I changed a setting on the stream,
hope it fixes the problem.. TNX

Andy

--- On Sun, 12/23/12, Warren K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:

> From: Warren K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Online Audio from KU4XR
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Sunday, December 23, 2012, 8:34 PM
> Hi Andy,
> 
> 
> ? ? ? I get a pop-up asking for the admin
> username and password.
> 
> 73 Warren
> 
> 
> On 12/23/2012 8:25 PM, Andy - KU4XR wrote:
> > Hi all:
> >
> > Anyone who will take the time to try to log on to my
> > audio stream, and let me know if it is working, I will
> > greatly appreciate it..
> >
> > Open your media player, and " play the URL "
> >
> > http://75.136.215.123:8000
> >
> > TNX... Andy - KU4XR
> >
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec 23 20:43:51 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:43:51 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] VLF
In-Reply-To: <000a01cde170$48650860$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <000a01cde170$48650860$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7Z42UY=_ZeJADvntA7wD5XofGn1Zv=qHGFxzvXnLgk-kw@mail.gmail.com>

Hearing strong Alpha beeps here also. Thanks for the reminder about SAQ,
Jay.

73, Doug KB4OER

On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 7:47 PM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> Checking VLF in preparation for SAQ transmission tomorrow morning. Note
> strong Alpha beeps as well as VTX2 India 17.0 kHz  coming through nicely.
> Hoping condx are favorable in the wee hours.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
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From ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com  Sun Dec 23 20:48:34 2012
From: ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com (ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:48:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Online Audio from KU4XR
Message-ID: <3234.15bc3984.3e090e72@aol.com>

In a message dated 12/23/2012 8:34:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
k2ors at verizon.net writes:

Hi Andy,
I get a pop-up asking for the admin username and  password.

73 Warren
 
I get the same thing on my PC. Not much we can do with a 
private audio stream.
 
73 - Todd WD4NGG
 

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 23 20:50:31 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:50:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] 510 KHz USB streaming from KU4XR
Message-ID: <1356313831.99609.YahooMailClassic@web125302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Some say the stream is working, and others are getting strange
error messages... nevertheless, I'll run the stream during the
9 PM SSB transmissions tonite.. Band is quiet, hope I hear
more than 1 station... Listen if you wish..

73 - Andy

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 23 20:53:42 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:53:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] 510 KHz USB streaming from KU4XR - set to public setting
In-Reply-To: <1356313831.99609.YahooMailClassic@web125302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1356314022.33577.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I set the stream to public,, and restarted it.. haven't used it
in quite a while.. stream address again is:

http://75.136.215.123:8000


--- On Sun, 12/23/12, Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Lowfer] 510 KHz USB streaming from KU4XR
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Sunday, December 23, 2012, 8:50 PM
> Some say the stream is working, and
> others are getting strange
> error messages... nevertheless, I'll run the stream during
> the
> 9 PM SSB transmissions tonite.. Band is quiet, hope I hear
> more than 1 station... Listen if you wish..
> 
> 73 - Andy
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From dexter.mc at gmail.com  Sun Dec 23 21:20:25 2012
From: dexter.mc at gmail.com (Dexter McIntyre W4DEX)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 21:20:25 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XJM 510 khz SSB
Message-ID: <50D7BBE9.4020903@gmail.com>

Sounds like a local here in NC.  Recorded with SDR-IQ:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15095569/w4dex/wg2xjm_510khz.mp3

Also just as good receiving with stock FT897D connected to a 60 meter 
band NVIS dipole.

Excellent signal Eric!

Dex

From wilbur0611 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 23 21:37:54 2012
From: wilbur0611 at gmail.com (John Hamer)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 21:37:54 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer JH Beacon
Message-ID: <5780386477838304281@unknownmsgid>

I added 4 X 15 foot ground radials today. That is all the wire I had
around the house. I am going to get some of that aluminum fence wire
and do a better job. I'm not sure what difference it made. I also did
a little impedance matching on my low pass filter and really cleaned
the waveform up. The wave had a little tilt to it before and is very
symmetrical now. The strange thing is I had to run a little higher
voltage on the final to get my one watt. I will have to see what I'm
doing wrong tomorrow when I have some daylight.

John hamer
JH 181818Hz
Florence SC

From w4zrz at aol.com  Sun Dec 23 22:57:16 2012
From: w4zrz at aol.com (James Long)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 22:57:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Merry Christmas
In-Reply-To: <50D7BBE9.4020903@gmail.com>
References: <50D7BBE9.4020903@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CFAFA1E551D047-214C-47C64@webmail-d181.sysops.aol.com>


Dex

I hope this finds you well and I wanted to wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas. Sincerely Jimmy W4ZRZ


-----Original Message-----
From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX <dexter.mc at gmail.com>
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>; 600MRG <600mrg at w7ekb.com>
Sent: Sun, Dec 23, 2012 8:21 pm
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XJM 510 khz SSB


Sounds like a local here in NC.  Recorded with SDR-IQ:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15095569/w4dex/wg2xjm_510khz.mp3

Also just as good receiving with stock FT897D connected to a 60 meter 
band NVIS dipole.

Excellent signal Eric!

Dex
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From hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 24 00:22:28 2012
From: hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com (Laurence KL1 X)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:22:28 -0900
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ preample
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7Z42UY=_ZeJADvntA7wD5XofGn1Zv=qHGFxzvXnLgk-kw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000a01cde170$48650860$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>,
	<CABP+t7Z42UY=_ZeJADvntA7wD5XofGn1Zv=qHGFxzvXnLgk-kw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU153-W60EFF7F59C94AF78D5E159CF3B0@phx.gbl>


I was all prepared - and then the signals but not the Hummmm dissapeared earlier this evening. 

Snow shoes and head torch lit route to the loop by the lake ensued (got to be a bit careful as Im still recovering from a broken ankle) 

Found that one of the loop conductors had actually snapped - multicore speaker type wire - the see thru stuff. I attempted to repair but I still have more 60Hz than is healthy so I connected up the LF probe and running that thru the SAQ tests this morning. Ive got the 60Hz comb filter off as blanks RSDN3 and SAQ dependent on QRG.

Environmentally Its been pretty tough with winds at 40 gusty 75mph at between 20 and -15F for the last three weeks, so guess a little more than good for mechanical stress on the loop components.

Running 30 sec captures on  http:// kl7uk.com/VLFAlaska.html 

Good luck

Laurence KL 1X Wasilla Palmer Alaska



> Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:43:51 -0500
> From: kb4oer at gmail.com
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] VLF
> 
> Hearing strong Alpha beeps here also. Thanks for the reminder about SAQ,
> Jay.
> 
> 73, Doug KB4OER
> 
> On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 7:47 PM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > Checking VLF in preparation for SAQ transmission tomorrow morning. Note
> > strong Alpha beeps as well as VTX2 India 17.0 kHz  coming through nicely.
> > Hoping condx are favorable in the wee hours.
> >
> > Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> >
> >
> >
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 24 01:39:43 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 01:39:43 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite's results...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W15B2B87C83F8F6015495CEAC3B0@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR and company racked up 947 decodes.  Was hoping to get a decode from KL1X but didn't happen.  Band seems to peak into Europe around 0230 or so and later to the West Coast.  Interesting sigs strengths at different times and seems so far to be quite consistent night after night-thanks to tonite's fine group of ops;
PI4THT
F4DTL
PA0O
PA3ABK/50
DL-SWL
G0KTN
K3SIW
WB8SKP
VE7BDQ
W3NF
VE6OG
WA8KNE
Hope see ya'all tomorrow night agn-Bob
  		 	   		  

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 24 01:41:02 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 00:41:02 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] DK7FC
Message-ID: <50D7F8FE.80407@sbcglobal.net>

Had two decent periods of signal coming through from DK7FC tonight on 
136.172 kHz, DFCW. Noise floor elevated somewhat by Christmas lights, 
microwaves, and TVs but conditions obviously good, as they were about 
this time last year.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 24 01:51:04 2012
From: hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com (Laurence KL1 X)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 21:51:04 -0900
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite's results...
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W15B2B87C83F8F6015495CEAC3B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W15B2B87C83F8F6015495CEAC3B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU153-W33DB970F6C5F9DA8CBE328CF3B0@phx.gbl>


Bob _ I could see the signal but it didnt peak to decode levels. Its a tough path.

Rgds

Laurence KL 1 X Alaska

> From: rjraide at hotmail.com
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 01:39:43 -0500
> Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite's results...
> 
> 
> WE6XGR and company racked up 947 decodes.  Was hoping to get a decode from KL1X but didn't happen.  Band seems to peak into Europe around 0230 or so and later to the West Coast.  Interesting sigs strengths at different times and seems so far to be quite consistent night after night-thanks to tonite's fine group of ops;
> PI4THT
> F4DTL
> PA0O
> PA3ABK/50
> DL-SWL
> G0KTN
> K3SIW
> WB8SKP
> VE7BDQ
> W3NF
> VE6OG
> WA8KNE
> Hope see ya'all tomorrow night agn-Bob
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From kkrallis at tee.gr  Mon Dec 24 03:09:22 2012
From: kkrallis at tee.gr (Costas Krallis)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 10:09:22 +0200
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ transmission on Christmas Eve Dec 24, 2012
In-Reply-To: <0EFC20A02FAE4FA8AE8F753E51CC733C@Dell>
References: <0EFC20A02FAE4FA8AE8F753E51CC733C@Dell>
Message-ID: <50D80DB2.9040202@tee.gr>

Hi Lars and the Grimeton group!

I report that I just heard the Christmas Eve SAQ
transmission on 17.2 kHz. The signal this time
was weak and suffered from urban noise. I used
a 7 m vertical antenna and a Perseus SDR receiver
with the IF bandwith set to 100 Hz. Location
is downtown Athens, Greece.

Merry Christmas and a HNY 2013

Costas SV1XV


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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec 24 08:03:56 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:03:56 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ & NAA
Message-ID: <CABP+t7ZUrL_VRmzQjJB2OqsuGY7dTQ_iTT+tkmdwjsw_qmM8Tg@mail.gmail.com>

There was no way I was going to be awake at 3AM, so I set my SDR to record
twenty minutes of audio at 17.2 kHz starting at 3AM Eastern........or so I
thought. I'm going to blame my wife (without telling her, of course) for
talking to me while I was setting the recording time, because somehow I set
it to start recording at 6AM instead of 3AM. Rats.

I did notice just now that NAA on 24 kHz is not sending MSK at the moment,
but rather is keying a carrier on and off for several seconds each time.
Wonder if they are melting ice off the capacity hat?

Made a recording for posterity. Not much to listen to really, just a
carrier being keyed on and off, but after my brain fart with SAQ wanted to
record something, just to prove I could. ;-)

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33457409/Schedule-0.024MHz_12-12-24_07%2751%2740.wav

It's 5.5 Meg, sorry.

73, Doug KB4OER

From dexter.mc at gmail.com  Mon Dec 24 08:49:46 2012
From: dexter.mc at gmail.com (Dexter McIntyre W4DEX)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:49:46 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SIW alternating speed?
Message-ID: <50D85D7A.4030806@gmail.com>

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15095569/w4dex/lowfer/24dec12_siw.jpg

From k2ors at verizon.net  Mon Dec 24 09:19:08 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 09:19:08 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 24 hour ops the next few days...Re: XGJ on
 136.745 in EN90xn
In-Reply-To: <4230D855762D41BCB5C0F5EA0FABCF7D@MichaelSappPC>
References: <4230D855762D41BCB5C0F5EA0FABCF7D@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <50D8645C.8010101@verizon.net>

Thanks Mike!

Will let WD2XGJ run 24/7 the next few days and see what happens!

73 & Merry Christmas
Warren


On 12/23/2012 9:16 AM, Michael Sapp wrote:
> Hi All: Here's XGJ on 136.745  Sunday AM.....
>
>
> http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/xgj1223_zps46327605.jpg
>
>
> 73  Mike wa3tts
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Mon Dec 24 09:20:02 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 09:20:02 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 136.745 QRSS 6
In-Reply-To: <50D6FE22.5060506@sbcglobal.net>
References: <50D6FE22.5060506@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <50D86492.7030108@verizon.net>

Garry,

     Thanks for the reports on XGJ and XGR/1  !

73 Merry X-mas!
Warren



On 12/23/2012 7:50 AM, Garry Hess wrote:
> Moved on to Navtex by 6 AM here (CST), but earlier in the evening XGJ
> copy was good and WE2XGR/1 on 506.3 kHz CW was generally audible with
> full SSB noise bandwidth.
>
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Mon Dec 24 09:27:50 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 09:27:50 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ in CT
Message-ID: <00a401cde1e2$da447370$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

SAQ received in Burlington CT USA this morning at a 'bit weaker than normal' signal strength. The 
recording below is split into two parts ... the first half is the looooong keydown during 'test and 
tune' and the second half is from the beginning of the message. In my experience the 'test and tune' 
period is almost alway stronger than the 'message' ... even considering the higher keying speed.

http://www.w1vd.com/SAQ122412B.mp3

System setup was the usual:

Modified Amrad e probe > LNA > Delta 44 A/D > Spectrum Lab.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 24 09:29:55 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:29:55 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] SIW alternating speed?
Message-ID: <50D866E3.3000300@sbcglobal.net>

Dex, thanks for the nice capture of my lowfer. Yes, It switches between 
QRSS30 and QRSS60. Thought that might be useful when it was really weak 
but probably not the best of ideas. Next season I'll try to remember to 
add a CW ID. Also, the beacon changes frequency between the watering 
hole and 185.185 kHz daily at 1800Z (except Sa and Su are the same). 
That's so I can listen on the watering hole without being overloaded by 
the beacon about 23 miles away.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From pbunn at patbunn.com  Mon Dec 24 09:30:18 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (Pat Bunn)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 09:30:18 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ & NAA
Message-ID: <q9op2o6x8q8scgbjiuv5hpj2.1356359418923@email.android.com>

Well I got up at 2:45 to listen for SAQ but nothing except possible my imagination. Did get a nice clear clip of AM audio at 486 KHz . Nice and clear at about 3:18 am. If anyone wants it let me know.

Merry Christmas

Pat
N4LTA

"Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:

>There was no way I was going to be awake at 3AM, so I set my SDR to record
>twenty minutes of audio at 17.2 kHz starting at 3AM Eastern........or so I
>thought. I'm going to blame my wife (without telling her, of course) for
>talking to me while I was setting the recording time, because somehow I set
>it to start recording at 6AM instead of 3AM. Rats.
>
>I did notice just now that NAA on 24 kHz is not sending MSK at the moment,
>but rather is keying a carrier on and off for several seconds each time.
>Wonder if they are melting ice off the capacity hat?
>
>Made a recording for posterity. Not much to listen to really, just a
>carrier being keyed on and off, but after my brain fart with SAQ wanted to
>record something, just to prove I could. ;-)
>
>https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33457409/Schedule-0.024MHz_12-12-24_07%2751%2740.wav
>
>It's 5.5 Meg, sorry.
>
>73, Doug KB4OER
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 24 09:40:10 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:40:10 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ in CT
Message-ID: <50D8694A.7080405@sbcglobal.net>

Jay, disappointed to not even definitely detect the signal here, much 
less copy the CW. Both you and Costas noticed weaker signals than usual 
and I get the impression Dave, WD2XSH/17 might not have copied SAQ 
either. Thought wrongly that conditions would be good since DK7FC was in 
here on 136 kHz DFCW around 0600Z. The European VLF stations weren't 
very strong at 0800Z but DGPS from NL on 288 kHz was decent as were NDBs 
along the path like 5B on 254 kHz
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From stanw1le at verizon.net  Mon Dec 24 09:45:40 2012
From: stanw1le at verizon.net (Stan, W1LE)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 09:45:40 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ in CT
In-Reply-To: <00a401cde1e2$da447370$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <00a401cde1e2$da447370$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <50D86A94.8060607@verizon.net>

Hello The Net:

I hope all are having the very best of this Holiday Season.

Jay, could you point me to details of your LNA you use for the SAQ 
reception ?

Stan, W1LE    Cape Cod   FN41sr



On 12/24/2012 9:27 AM, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
> SAQ received in Burlington CT USA this morning at a 'bit weaker than 
> normal' signal strength. The recording below is split into two parts 
> ... the first half is the looooong keydown during 'test and tune' and 
> the second half is from the beginning of the message. In my experience 
> the 'test and tune' period is almost alway stronger than the 'message' 
> ... even considering the higher keying speed.
>
> http://www.w1vd.com/SAQ122412B.mp3
>
> System setup was the usual:
>
> Modified Amrad e probe > LNA > Delta 44 A/D > Spectrum Lab.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
>
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From stevesykes at rochester.rr.com  Mon Dec 24 10:26:21 2012
From: stevesykes at rochester.rr.com (kd2om)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 10:26:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ in CT
In-Reply-To: <50D86A94.8060607@verizon.net>
References: <00a401cde1e2$da447370$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<50D86A94.8060607@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <71406238-4312-44D8-85A5-2BE08BC455E2@rochester.rr.com>

And the e-probe mods.
73
Steve KD2OM

Sent from my mobile phone.
 

On Dec 24, 2012, at 9:45, "Stan, W1LE" <stanw1le at verizon.net> wrote:

> Hello The Net:
> 
> I hope all are having the very best of this Holiday Season.
> 
> Jay, could you point me to details of your LNA you use for the SAQ reception ?
> 
> Stan, W1LE    Cape Cod   FN41sr
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/24/2012 9:27 AM, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
>> SAQ received in Burlington CT USA this morning at a 'bit weaker than normal' signal strength. The recording below is split into two parts ... the first half is the looooong keydown during 'test and tune' and the second half is from the beginning of the message. In my experience the 'test and tune' period is almost alway stronger than the 'message' ... even considering the higher keying speed.
>> 
>> http://www.w1vd.com/SAQ122412B.mp3
>> 
>> System setup was the usual:
>> 
>> Modified Amrad e probe > LNA > Delta 44 A/D > Spectrum Lab.
>> 
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec 24 10:31:30 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 10:31:30 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ in CT
In-Reply-To: <71406238-4312-44D8-85A5-2BE08BC455E2@rochester.rr.com>
References: <00a401cde1e2$da447370$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<50D86A94.8060607@verizon.net>
	<71406238-4312-44D8-85A5-2BE08BC455E2@rochester.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7aXYnk+-KOCkoSO8HqvKdALuCTkF=Y72gphnP=E=yRrmg@mail.gmail.com>

I believe both those schematics are linked on Jay's web site, along with
other interesting stuff.

http://www.w1vd.com/




On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:26 AM, kd2om <stevesykes at rochester.rr.com> wrote:

> And the e-probe mods.
> 73
> Steve KD2OM
>
> Sent from my mobile phone.
>
>
> On Dec 24, 2012, at 9:45, "Stan, W1LE" <stanw1le at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > Hello The Net:
> >
> > I hope all are having the very best of this Holiday Season.
> >
> > Jay, could you point me to details of your LNA you use for the SAQ
> reception ?
> >
> > Stan, W1LE    Cape Cod   FN41sr
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/24/2012 9:27 AM, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
> >> SAQ received in Burlington CT USA this morning at a 'bit weaker than
> normal' signal strength. The recording below is split into two parts ...
> the first half is the looooong keydown during 'test and tune' and the
> second half is from the beginning of the message. In my experience the
> 'test and tune' period is almost alway stronger than the 'message' ... even
> considering the higher keying speed.
> >>
> >> http://www.w1vd.com/SAQ122412B.mp3
> >>
> >> System setup was the usual:
> >>
> >> Modified Amrad e probe > LNA > Delta 44 A/D > Spectrum Lab.
> >>
> >> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ______________________________________________________________
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> >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Mon Dec 24 10:32:35 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 15:32:35 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ in CT
In-Reply-To: <71406238-4312-44D8-85A5-2BE08BC455E2@rochester.rr.com>
References: <00a401cde1e2$da447370$6401a8c0@JAYDELL><50D86A94.8060607@verizon.net>
	<71406238-4312-44D8-85A5-2BE08BC455E2@rochester.rr.com>
Message-ID: <96A94FD9DAD24F0F8CE7A1EDAC29D3B2@PatBunnShopPC>

I think all that you are looking for is on his website.

Pat
N4LTA

-----Original Message----- 
From: kd2om
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 3:26 PM
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands
Cc: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] SAQ in CT

And the e-probe mods.
73
Steve KD2OM

Sent from my mobile phone.


On Dec 24, 2012, at 9:45, "Stan, W1LE" <stanw1le at verizon.net> wrote:

> Hello The Net:
>
> I hope all are having the very best of this Holiday Season.
>
> Jay, could you point me to details of your LNA you use for the SAQ 
> reception ?
>
> Stan, W1LE    Cape Cod   FN41sr
>
>
>
> On 12/24/2012 9:27 AM, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
>> SAQ received in Burlington CT USA this morning at a 'bit weaker than 
>> normal' signal strength. The recording below is split into two parts ... 
>> the first half is the looooong keydown during 'test and tune' and the 
>> second half is from the beginning of the message. In my experience the 
>> 'test and tune' period is almost alway stronger than the 'message' ... 
>> even considering the higher keying speed.
>>
>> http://www.w1vd.com/SAQ122412B.mp3
>>
>> System setup was the usual:
>>
>> Modified Amrad e probe > LNA > Delta 44 A/D > Spectrum Lab.
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> Lowfer mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> Post: mailto:Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>>
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>
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From dexter.mc at gmail.com  Mon Dec 24 13:29:26 2012
From: dexter.mc at gmail.com (Dexter McIntyre W4DEX)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 13:29:26 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SIW alternating speed?
In-Reply-To: <50D866E3.3000300@sbcglobal.net>
References: <50D866E3.3000300@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <50D89F06.20904@gmail.com>

Garry Hess wrote:
> Dex, thanks for the nice capture of my lowfer. Yes, It switches 
> between QRSS30 and QRSS60. Thought that might be useful when it was 
> really weak but probably not the best of ideas.
The dual speed does look unique but could be a bit confusing with weak 
copy.  That's not a problem though since it's very unlikely anyone would 
see the signal that wasn't aware of the published frequency.  I say 
leave it like that but adding the CW ID would be good.

Dex

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Mon Dec 24 13:36:58 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 13:36:58 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ in CT
References: <000601cde1eb$85eb7fe0$6d01a8c0@DELL4>
Message-ID: <002001cde205$a82986a0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Stan, Steve

As others have mentioned, the info is available at the website. If you have questions let me know.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "kd2om" <stevesykes at rochester.rr.com>
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Cc: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 10:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] SAQ in CT
>
>
>> And the e-probe mods.
>> 73
>> Steve KD2OM
>>
>> Sent from my mobile phone.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 24, 2012, at 9:45, "Stan, W1LE" <stanw1le at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello The Net:
>>>
>>> I hope all are having the very best of this Holiday Season.
>>>
>>> Jay, could you point me to details of your LNA you use for the SAQ reception ?
>>>
>>> Stan, W1LE    Cape Cod   FN41sr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/24/2012 9:27 AM, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
>>>> SAQ received in Burlington CT USA this morning at a 'bit weaker than normal' signal strength. 
>>>> The recording below is split into two parts ... the first half is the looooong keydown during 
>>>> 'test and tune' and the second half is from the beginning of the message. In my experience the 
>>>> 'test and tune' period is almost alway stronger than the 'message' ... even considering the 
>>>> higher keying speed.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.w1vd.com/SAQ122412B.mp3
>>>>
>>>> System setup was the usual:
>>>>
>>>> Modified Amrad e probe > LNA > Delta 44 A/D > Spectrum Lab.
>>>>
>>>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>> Lowfer mailing list
>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>>> Post: mailto:Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>>>>
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>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From listread at lwca.org  Mon Dec 24 13:40:32 2012
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 12:40:32 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ & NAA
References: <CABP+t7ZUrL_VRmzQjJB2OqsuGY7dTQ_iTT+tkmdwjsw_qmM8Tg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <92835899356C4C148C6FB40EFE60C802@HPNOTEBOOK>

Thanks for confirmation of NAA having switched to plain carrier for a while 
this morning, Doug.  I went out to the field for the first real-world test 
of my VLF Time Shifter project last night, rather than trying to handle the 
receiver, the LPF and upconverter, the battery pack for the upconverter, two 
computers, and their audio cables out in the frost and the wind.

The first capture, up to 24 kHz only, was during the last 10 minutes of SAQ 
tuneup, the scheduled message time, and 20 minutes or so afterward.  During 
that one I monitored plenty of nice, juicy tweeks and related sferics in the 
audio range, and upon playback in the house this morning, I can see and hear 
the Big Four MSK signals, the three Russian ALPHAs, two likely spurs, and an 
intermittent carrier on 18.7 that's well up out of the noise for a dah or a 
couple of dits at a time.  (Hmm, you could make a catchy Christmas song out 
of that.)  Even on repeated play, though, I still haven't heard SAQ.

The second session was in wideband mode.  I haven't studied that capture 
fully yet, but was afraid I had messed something up when I switched sampling 
rates, because there was a steady carrier where NAA should have been.

It was a good quiet night here, for the most part.  There's a chance I might 
have gotten a little signal if I had driven the Time Shifter a little 
harder, but the biggest shortcoming of the prototype in its current form is 
that the only level indication is on the recorder itself, and that's hard to 
see in the dark.

John D 

From hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 24 14:14:59 2012
From: hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com (Laurence KL1 X)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 10:14:59 -0900
Subject: [Lowfer] Re  JD's SAQ & NAA
In-Reply-To: <92835899356C4C148C6FB40EFE60C802@HPNOTEBOOK>
References: <CABP+t7ZUrL_VRmzQjJB2OqsuGY7dTQ_iTT+tkmdwjsw_qmM8Tg@mail.gmail.com>,
	<92835899356C4C148C6FB40EFE60C802@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <BLU153-W45107620520B9F57D2D908CF3B0@phx.gbl>


John congrats on all that work! I only ever had one reasonable reception of SAQ in Okie - and all the rest produced red eyes and a lot of yawning the next day.

Here my loop failed a couple of hours prior to start up to plugged up the probe and shoved a 1nF in parallel to knock off the local MWmod and into the sound card.

It was pretty noisy qrn wise as I was already picking up S American and Pacific more local storms but good enough. It was weaker than "normal" here but there has been a heck of a lot of variability 
on the path -

Here a plot of how it looked here - 


http://kl7uk.com/saq24thwide.png

Cheers Laurence KL 1 X Wasilla Palmer Alaska hunting a pumpkin pie...



> From: listread at lwca.org
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 12:40:32 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] SAQ & NAA
> 
> Thanks for confirmation of NAA having switched to plain carrier for a while 
> this morning, Doug.  I went out to the field for the first real-world test 
> of my VLF Time Shifter project last night, rather than trying to handle the 
> receiver, the LPF and upconverter, the battery pack for the upconverter, two 
> computers, and their audio cables out in the frost and the wind.
> 
> The first capture, up to 24 kHz only, was during the last 10 minutes of SAQ 
> tuneup, the scheduled message time, and 20 minutes or so afterward.  During 
> that one I monitored plenty of nice, juicy tweeks and related sferics in the 
> audio range, and upon playback in the house this morning, I can see and hear 
> the Big Four MSK signals, the three Russian ALPHAs, two likely spurs, and an 
> intermittent carrier on 18.7 that's well up out of the noise for a dah or a 
> couple of dits at a time.  (Hmm, you could make a catchy Christmas song out 
> of that.)  Even on repeated play, though, I still haven't heard SAQ.
> 
> The second session was in wideband mode.  I haven't studied that capture 
> fully yet, but was afraid I had messed something up when I switched sampling 
> rates, because there was a steady carrier where NAA should have been.
> 
> It was a good quiet night here, for the most part.  There's a chance I might 
> have gotten a little signal if I had driven the Time Shifter a little 
> harder, but the biggest shortcoming of the prototype in its current form is 
> that the only level indication is on the recorder itself, and that's hard to 
> see in the dark.
> 
> John D 
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From stanw1le at verizon.net  Mon Dec 24 14:19:21 2012
From: stanw1le at verizon.net (Stan, W1LE)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:19:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ in CT
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7aXYnk+-KOCkoSO8HqvKdALuCTkF=Y72gphnP=E=yRrmg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00a401cde1e2$da447370$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<50D86A94.8060607@verizon.net>
	<71406238-4312-44D8-85A5-2BE08BC455E2@rochester.rr.com>
	<CABP+t7aXYnk+-KOCkoSO8HqvKdALuCTkF=Y72gphnP=E=yRrmg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50D8AAB9.9040108@verizon.net>

Hello Doug,

Your pointer worked out well.
Thanks   Stan


On 12/24/2012 10:31 AM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
> I believe both those schematics are linked on Jay's web site, along with
> other interesting stuff.
>
> http://www.w1vd.com/
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:26 AM, kd2om <stevesykes at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> And the e-probe mods.
>> 73
>> Steve KD2OM
>>
>> Sent from my mobile phone.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 24, 2012, at 9:45, "Stan, W1LE" <stanw1le at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello The Net:
>>>
>>> I hope all are having the very best of this Holiday Season.
>>>
>>> Jay, could you point me to details of your LNA you use for the SAQ
>> reception ?
>>


From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec 24 14:49:26 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:49:26 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ in CT
In-Reply-To: <50D8AAB9.9040108@verizon.net>
References: <00a401cde1e2$da447370$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<50D86A94.8060607@verizon.net>
	<71406238-4312-44D8-85A5-2BE08BC455E2@rochester.rr.com>
	<CABP+t7aXYnk+-KOCkoSO8HqvKdALuCTkF=Y72gphnP=E=yRrmg@mail.gmail.com>
	<50D8AAB9.9040108@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7Yd1wfXGZc7X=oxHCzKVP-wTbzkeeamrYv1KMpP0cDuTA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Stan.

I'm just passing information along......a message boy.

Jay Rusgrove, Doug DeMaw, Mike Mideke, Bill Bowers, R.W. Burhans, Ken
Cornell, (and many others).....so much great low frequency information
available out there....but hard to find it all.

73, Doug KB4OER


On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Stan, W1LE <stanw1le at verizon.net> wrote:

> Hello Doug,
>
> Your pointer worked out well.
> Thanks   Stan
>
>
> On 12/24/2012 10:31 AM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
>
>> I believe both those schematics are linked on Jay's web site, along with
>> other interesting stuff.
>>
>> http://www.w1vd.com/
>
>

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 24 17:28:21 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:28:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W474AE1F62BE343C4242773AC3B0@phx.gbl>



WE6XGR NY on for the evening usual 498 Dial 499.5 Tx freq-all decodes appreciated-Bob 		 	   		  

From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Mon Dec 24 17:33:50 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 22:33:50 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. TXing every night from sunset until sunrise (weather
 permitting) at 475.7 KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50D38DF3.8000007@bellsouth.net>
References: <50D38DF3.8000007@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50D8D84E.4000503@bellsouth.net>












*Dial Frequency 474.2 KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/











From k0az at centurytel.net  Mon Dec 24 18:04:25 2012
From: k0az at centurytel.net (Mike Sanders)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:04:25 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XSH/7
Message-ID: <007d01cde22b$05a54240$10efc6c0$@centurytel.net>



Hearing CW good copy from EM31 I think into EM37cd SW MO.

Signal maybe 559 at best but good copy. Freq near 475.8.

Not sure how to post this but here it is.

 

  Merry Christmas

             K?AZ

      Mike Sanders

 

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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Mon Dec 24 18:15:40 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (pbunn at patbunn.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 23:15:40 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XCT
In-Reply-To: <007d01cde22b$05a54240$10efc6c0$@centurytel.net>
References: <007d01cde22b$05a54240$10efc6c0$@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <A590D9355C4B42E399623DF33DF41291@PatBunnShopPC>




WG2XCT is transmitting a QRS3 beacon on 497.0 KHz from EM94bw all night and 
also Christmas day. Repaired the transmitter (failed ammeter) and is now on 
the air.

Any and all reports are welcome.

Pat
WG2XCT
N4LTA 


From w5jgv at spectrotek.com  Mon Dec 24 19:18:07 2012
From: w5jgv at spectrotek.com (Ralph W5JGV)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 18:18:07 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XSH/7
In-Reply-To: <007d01cde22b$05a54240$10efc6c0$@centurytel.net>
References: <007d01cde22b$05a54240$10efc6c0$@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <01a101cde235$558b77c0$00a26740$@spectrotek.com>

> Hearing CW good copy from EM31 I think into EM37cd SW MO.
> 
> Signal maybe 559 at best but good copy. Freq near 475.8.

Hello Mike,

Thanks for the report.
 
> Not sure how to post this but here it is.

Go to:

http://w5jgv.com/enterlogs.htm

and post your report there. It will be added to the ARRL 600 Meter
Research project database. Please enter any reports of any 600 meter
stations you hear, whether or not they are in the WD2XSH group.

73,

Ralph? W5JGV - WD2XSH/7






From hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 24 20:31:48 2012
From: hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com (Laurence KL1 X)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 16:31:48 -0900
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite...
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W474AE1F62BE343C4242773AC3B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W474AE1F62BE343C4242773AC3B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU405-EAS286B941CB5ECF4DFF705031CF3A0@phx.gbl>



Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 24, 2012, at 1:28 PM, "Bob Raide" <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> WE6XGR NY on for the evening usual 498 Dial 499.5 Tx freq-all decodes appreciated-Bob                         
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Tue Dec 25 02:58:09 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 02:58:09 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR results for XMAS EVE...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W41E92FD592E00F08133652AC3A0@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR NY and Company managed over 1200 spots tonite.  Band really came alive a bit later than it has in the pasted few weeks.
Thanks to the following 13 Spotties for their nites work;
DL-SWL
PA0O
PA3ABK/50
G0KTN
G8HUH
F4DTL
F59706
KE7KRF
VE7BDQ
N6RY
WB8SKP
K0AZ
WA8KNE
M Xmas to all MFers for their efforts and patience-Bob
  		 	   		  

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Tue Dec 25 06:13:03 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 06:13:03 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Merry Christmas!
Message-ID: <CABP+t7ZLJ+UUQJVnixD+zRaxiJG2UiribEYKMc_rYb9toue9QA@mail.gmail.com>

Tried for PBO and JH last night, but no luck. QRN is strong this morning in
east TN, peaking at S9. Will try again when QRN subsides.

I wish everyone a joyous and safe Christmas.

73, Doug KB4OER

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Tue Dec 25 09:46:05 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 08:46:05 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 137 kHz Christmas show
Message-ID: <50D9BC2D.3090301@sbcglobal.net>

Got a late start but found XJ graphical, MP QRSS60, and XES (a la Ho Ho 
HO graphical) coming through fine at 0500Z. There was also a signal at 
137.777 kHz that later proved to be sending "MX" QRSS60. That's the 
frequency where VO1NA is usually found sending DFCW. Dex, WD2XKO is 
usually a bit higher and much stronger. Not sure who it was.

Also found WG2XCT in there well on QRSS3 around 0800Z, despite a lot of 
lightning racket that had built up from the South.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Tue Dec 25 16:57:26 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 21:57:26 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. TXing every night from sunset until sunrise (weather
 permitting) at 475.7 KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50D8D84E.4000503@bellsouth.net>
References: <50D8D84E.4000503@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50DA2146.2000400@bellsouth.net>






*Dial Frequency 474.2 KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/












From rjraide at hotmail.com  Tue Dec 25 17:34:28 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:34:28 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR on for the evening...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W27D5F2B2861E296629A918AC3A0@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR NY on for the evening on usual 498 Dial 499.5 Tx freq-been out all day and no time to try any other modes but they will be in the works-Bob 		 	   		  

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Wed Dec 26 03:38:20 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 03:38:20 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W82156D656884D1FF74F57AC390@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR NY had slow but very good night on 500.  Was able to finally get a bunch of decodes out of KL!X which was hoping to do for couple weeks now.  Band was good but few decoders tonite-thanks to the following that hung in there;
WG2XJM
F59706
W0YSE/7
PA0O
DL-SWL
G0KTN
KL1X
Hope to see ya'll agn tonite hear!
  		 	   		  

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Wed Dec 26 17:59:10 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:59:10 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] waterfall of Lowfer band
In-Reply-To: <4B841C66759745E6B90A07E007E3AAB5@PatBunnShopPC>
References: <CABP+t7Y3RzCaenPEGrnROq=hrPGRhMpbARKx5izMLC1asmBisA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B841C66759745E6B90A07E007E3AAB5@PatBunnShopPC>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7bYyoAc3EtyfX7Fj0OEr9dbx4BE7ctfbbmas8LZ9BwzQA@mail.gmail.com>

Well, you and I are about 100 miles apart, so that PLC is strong.

73, Doug KB4OER




On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 7:56 PM, <pbunn at patbunn.com> wrote:

> Doug,
>
> I have that same interfering carrier near 185 here also. aLWAYS VERY LOUD.
>
> pAT
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Douglas D. Williams Sent: Sunday,
> December 23, 2012 9:49 PM To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European,
> &amp,UK) and MedFer bands Subject: [Lowfer] waterfall of Lowfer band
> Tried something mildly interesting a few minutes ago with the SDR. This is
> waterfall jpg of the entire Lowfer band (well, slightly more, 155-195 kHz)
> in the daytime at my QTH. The frequency markers at the bottom are hard to
> make out. You can see all the steady carriers, most of which are probably
> PLCs. You can also see the carrier on the right side of the screen, around
> 185 kHz, which seems to be regularly sending some sort of data pulse. This
> one is always very active and is the one that interferes with the "watering
> hole" at my QTH.
>
> There is also some sort of weird signal around 170 kHz, which almost looks
> like MSK, but is just some sort of noise when you listen to it.
>
> At least Loran is gone.
>
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/**33457409/155to195kHz.jpeg<https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33457409/155to195kHz.jpeg>
>
> -Doug KB4OER
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From pbunn at patbunn.com  Wed Dec 26 19:22:10 2012
From: pbunn at patbunn.com (Pat Bunn)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:22:10 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WGXCT beacon 497.0 KHz   QRSS3  and cw from EM94bw
Message-ID: <ajboskmquw2iwgpw8dfxxrww.1356567730790@email.android.com>

Running WG2XCT cw and QRSS3 on 497.0 KHz 

Reports are appreciated.


Pat Bunn
WG2XCT

From no3m at no3m.net  Wed Dec 26 20:00:39 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric Tichansky)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:00:39 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] [600MRG] XJM CQ
In-Reply-To: <50DB9B99.2020402@no3m.net>
References: <50DB9B99.2020402@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <50DB9DB7.9070209@no3m.net>

Sorry, QRV 474.0 kHz (thanks John/XIQ).  Will also try CQ on 137.2 kHz 
after calling on 630M.

73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM

On 12/26/2012 19:51, Eric Tichansky wrote:
> WG2XJM calling CQ on the hour up to 0300Z (maybe 0400Z).
>
> Reports from monitoring stations also appreciated.
>
> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM


From rjraide at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 27 02:51:24 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 02:51:24 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR Results...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W53B11D031F9C8124D2783AC380@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR had a good nites operation in spite of ant iceing that detuned the amp.  Still 555 decodes and surprising reports.
Thanks to the decoders that stuck it out for the nite;
PA0O
F59706
PI4THT
G0KTN
G8HUH
WA8KNE
VE7BDQ
WW6D
W0YSE/7
K3SIW
Gonna give 137 a shot tomorrow nite and hope some of the 500 boys will tune up to 2200M band-73, Bob
  		 	   		  

From chejmw at buffalo.edu  Thu Dec 27 09:20:48 2012
From: chejmw at buffalo.edu (James M. Walker)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:20:48 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR Results...
References: <BLU162-W53B11D031F9C8124D2783AC380@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5EB59B46AF484E81AEE4658190CE9E48@wb2fcnradio1>

Hey I will turn on the Rycom and capture you, where ya transmitting
from?

Jim
WB2FCN/WD2XSH-22


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Raide" <rjraide at hotmail.com>
To: "Bob Raide" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 2:51 AM
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR Results...


>
> WE6XGR had a good nites operation in spite of ant iceing that detuned the 
> amp.  Still 555 decodes and surprising reports.
> Thanks to the decoders that stuck it out for the nite;
> PA0O
> F59706
> PI4THT
> G0KTN
> G8HUH
> WA8KNE
> VE7BDQ
> WW6D
> W0YSE/7
> K3SIW
> Gonna give 137 a shot tomorrow nite and hope some of the 500 boys will 
> tune up to 2200M band-73, Bob
>
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Thu Dec 27 12:37:54 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:37:54 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR Results...
References: <BLU162-W53B11D031F9C8124D2783AC380@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000401cde458$e7338260$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Bob

Not much QRSS3 on 137 kHz ... mostly QRSS30 or QRSS60. Not sure where the best spot would be to run 
that. Let me check and I'll get back to you this afternoon.

Frequencies that are in use:

CW QSO 137.200

WSPR 137.500 +/- 100 Hz

US DX window 137.778 +/- 5 Hz primarily QRSS30 and 60, DFCW 30 and 60

EU DX window 136.172 +/- 5 Hz primarily QRSS30 and 60, DFCW 30 and 60

Note that a number of stations have staked out frequencies in the DX window and have operated on 
these same frequencies over the course of many years (decade even). The exact frequency aids in 
identification of weak signals when IDs can't be pulled through ... folks don't tend to move around. 
Probably best to check before transmitting in the window.

Jay

p.s. I may be without internet at work this afternoon so may not be able to get back to you until 
after 5 pm


From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Thu Dec 27 12:39:42 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:39:42 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR Results...
References: <BLU162-W53B11D031F9C8124D2783AC380@phx.gbl>
	<000401cde458$e7338260$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <001801cde459$276f24b0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Sorry ... last e mail was meant to go to Bob directly ...

Jay

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Thu Dec 27 13:38:07 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:38:07 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR Results...
In-Reply-To: <001801cde459$276f24b0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <BLU162-W53B11D031F9C8124D2783AC380@phx.gbl>
	<000401cde458$e7338260$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<001801cde459$276f24b0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7afe=CC8rTtWPL5NbH_JjcwuThRdWDRU_pJD2D4DkUCcw@mail.gmail.com>

Nevertheless good info for all of us to know.




On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:39 PM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> Sorry ... last e mail was meant to go to Bob directly ...
>
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 27 14:04:21 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:04:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] OPERA latest version tonite on 498...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W6761FACA89612B702655EAC380@phx.gbl>



WE6XGR NY will be operating under shakey wx conditions-icing and such, I am staying on 500 till first of week [Monday].  Will be trying Opera's latest 1.4.7.zip on usual 498 dial freq. Find latest download on
rosmodem.wordpress.com.
Will commence transmitting at 2200Z for evening. Hope to run 50 watts erp if ant will tune. If hard to tune I'll force it for at least 20 w erp! Bob 		 	   		  

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 27 14:07:22 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:07:22 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] OPERA OP8'''
Message-ID: <BLU162-W2620A61544F3F8D4633D78AC380@phx.gbl>


btw;
TX FREQ WILL BE 499.55 UPPER SB. 		 	   		  

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Thu Dec 27 14:37:21 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:37:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] OPERA latest version tonite on 498...
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W6761FACA89612B702655EAC380@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W6761FACA89612B702655EAC380@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7Z-KhNo9eZBGzSpTQxRZBW6SpnKBsbD8CnQbiU6+EvOXg@mail.gmail.com>

Ok Bob. I'm willing to try a new mode. Will be listening, if I can figure
out the install.

73, Doug KB4OER

On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Bob Raide <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> WE6XGR NY will be operating under shakey wx conditions-icing and such, I
> am staying on 500 till first of week [Monday].  Will be trying Opera's
> latest 1.4.7.zip on usual 498 dial freq. Find latest download on
> rosmodem.wordpress.com.
> Will commence transmitting at 2200Z for evening. Hope to run 50 watts erp
> if ant will tune. If hard to tune I'll force it for at least 20 w erp! Bob
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Thu Dec 27 15:17:01 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:17:01 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 CW; WD2XGJ 136.745 QRSS 6
Message-ID: <50DCACBD.70002@verizon.net>

I am again running WE2XGR/1 remotely, just started transmitting at 3PM 
EST on 506.3 regular cw.

Also, barring any transmitter/keyer issues WD2XGJ should be chugging 
along in QRSS 6 on 136.745

As always, reports welcome!

73 Warren K2ORS


From kb4oer at gmail.com  Thu Dec 27 17:37:36 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 17:37:36 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] OPERA latest version tonite on 498...
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W383FC85E3B52418FFD6582AC380@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W6761FACA89612B702655EAC380@phx.gbl>
	<CABP+t7Z-KhNo9eZBGzSpTQxRZBW6SpnKBsbD8CnQbiU6+EvOXg@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU162-W21EB2FDC61F3F6787D6899AC380@phx.gbl>
	<CABP+t7bX8QqbpZyTgmo3bg4e6nki=5V-BMeMMk11L-851jejeQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU162-W383FC85E3B52418FFD6582AC380@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7Zwg0G5adcPDt8OquAOGOtFg0PWeZVLuvqHntLLxk+iVg@mail.gmail.com>

Opera is perhaps the most unintuitive software I have ever tried to use.

D.

On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Bob Raide <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Yes that is correct-same as with wspr- 498 dial freq upper sb-Bob
> ________________________________
> > Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:10:48 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [Lowfer] OPERA latest version tonite on 498...
> > From: kb4oer at gmail.com
> > To: rjraide at hotmail.com
> >
> > Ok, I have Opera installed, although it was a bit unintuitive.
> >
> > So, 498 kHz dial frequency, USB?
> >
> > Doug KB4OER
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Bob Raide
> > <rjraide at hotmail.com<mailto:rjraide at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Install is simple. If it wasn't easy I couldn't do it! I am only a very
> > basic computer guy-at best-Bob
> > ----------------------------------------
> > > Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:37:21 -0500
> > > From: kb4oer at gmail.com<mailto:kb4oer at gmail.com>
> > > To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net<mailto:lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> > > Subject: Re: [Lowfer] OPERA latest version tonite on 498...
> > >
> > > Ok Bob. I'm willing to try a new mode. Will be listening, if I can
> figure
> > > out the install.
> > >
> > > 73, Doug KB4OER
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Bob Raide
> > <rjraide at hotmail.com<mailto:rjraide at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > WE6XGR NY will be operating under shakey wx conditions-icing and
> such, I
> > > > am staying on 500 till first of week [Monday]. Will be trying Opera's
> > > > latest 1.4.7.zip on usual 498 dial freq. Find latest download on
> > > > rosmodem.wordpress.com<http://rosmodem.wordpress.com>.
> > > > Will commence transmitting at 2200Z for evening. Hope to run 50
> watts erp
> > > > if ant will tune. If hard to tune I'll force it for at least 20 w
> > erp! Bob
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From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 27 19:01:26 2012
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:01:26 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] OPERA latest version tonite on 498...
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W6761FACA89612B702655EAC380@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W6761FACA89612B702655EAC380@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAE89MiTT+7iuwWjSoOyZA1eRLGhh6wa5FM4vON=RG80Dch3mZg@mail.gmail.com>

some copy
Lloyd W3NF

On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Bob Raide <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> WE6XGR NY will be operating under shakey wx conditions-icing and such, I
> am staying on 500 till first of week [Monday].  Will be trying Opera's
> latest 1.4.7.zip on usual 498 dial freq. Find latest download on
> rosmodem.wordpress.com.
> Will commence transmitting at 2200Z for evening. Hope to run 50 watts erp
> if ant will tune. If hard to tune I'll force it for at least 20 w erp! Bob
> ______________________________________________________________
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 27 20:05:36 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 17:05:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Non-Decoding WSPR signal on 475.730 KHz
Message-ID: <1356656736.64262.YahooMailClassic@web125306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Seeing a good WSPR signal showing up, but not decoding.. It sounds 
like the timing is slow by a few seconds..

Andy - KU4XR

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 27 20:18:10 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 19:18:10 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 22.7 kHz TACAMO
Message-ID: <50DCF352.3070704@sbcglobal.net>

There is a very wideband and strong signal currently on 22.7 kHz.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 27 20:24:19 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 19:24:19 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 22.7 kHz TACAMO
Message-ID: <50DCF4C3.7020009@sbcglobal.net>

Interesting that the signal is also showing on the current VLF grabber 
at http://kl7uk.com/VLFAlaska.html (0115Z, before the signal went wide 
band).
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 27 20:28:18 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 17:28:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Non-Decoding WSPR signal on 475.730 KHz
In-Reply-To: <1356656736.64262.YahooMailClassic@web125306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1356658098.13736.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I found 1 problem, and it was on my side.. Dimension-4 had not
updated since Dec.24th.. I changed time servers, and found that
I was almost 7 seconds slow.. Got that taken care of...
WSPR is now decoding..

0124  16 -16  0.5   0.475734  WF2XXQ EL95 17 



From hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 27 20:45:50 2012
From: hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com (Laurence KL1 X)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:45:50 -0900
Subject: [Lowfer] Garrys'   22.7 kHz TACAMO
In-Reply-To: <50DCF4C3.7020009@sbcglobal.net>
References: <50DCF4C3.7020009@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <BLU153-W51A69999E505D9702374DBCF3F0@phx.gbl>


TACAMO Tuning carrier was -55 on the scale Garry - very strong. 

See  the wideband its now gone off - the VLF snapper has a new "omni" antennae up at 45ft which has reduced the AC combing a fair bit and my s/n has improved considerably especially 9-12Khz region. Ive replaced the feeder run to the loop but still getting a lot more AC Harmonics and will blame new construction around me. Dont do much about that - 

Seasons greetings

Laurence KL 1X Wasilla Palmer

> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 19:24:19 -0600
> From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] 22.7 kHz TACAMO
> 
> Interesting that the signal is also showing on the current VLF grabber 
> at http://kl7uk.com/VLFAlaska.html (0115Z, before the signal went wide 
> band).
> -- 
> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 27 20:54:45 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 19:54:45 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Garrys' 22.7 kHz TACAM
Message-ID: <50DCFBE5.2010800@sbcglobal.net>

Hi Laurence,

That TACAMO source must have an impressive ERP because it was quite 
strong here too, on par with NAA and about like the -55 dBm you 
mentioned on my SpectraVue waterfall.

Your grabber work has paid off. It really looks great.

Good luck decoding Bob, WE6XGR on Opera tonight.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Thu Dec 27 21:35:46 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 21:35:46 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] OPERA latest version tonite on 498...
In-Reply-To: <CAE89MiTT+7iuwWjSoOyZA1eRLGhh6wa5FM4vON=RG80Dch3mZg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU162-W6761FACA89612B702655EAC380@phx.gbl>
	<CAE89MiTT+7iuwWjSoOyZA1eRLGhh6wa5FM4vON=RG80Dch3mZg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7YTjtVxDRWCd71C5b8fTvEyoVf5s2PXCt0w+bqXe6k8NQ@mail.gmail.com>

Got a decode.

What an odd piece of software.

Is there no way to adjust frequency other than jumping around bands in
the "Frequencies" pull down menu?


73, Doug KB4OER

On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 7:01 PM, lloyd chastant <lloydc6 at gmail.com> wrote:

> some copy
> Lloyd W3NF
>
> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Bob Raide <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > WE6XGR NY will be operating under shakey wx conditions-icing and such, I
> > am staying on 500 till first of week [Monday].  Will be trying Opera's
> > latest 1.4.7.zip on usual 498 dial freq. Find latest download on
> > rosmodem.wordpress.com.
> > Will commence transmitting at 2200Z for evening. Hope to run 50 watts erp
> > if ant will tune. If hard to tune I'll force it for at least 20 w erp!
> Bob
> > ______________________________________________________________
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From dwilson314 at verizon.net  Thu Dec 27 23:29:38 2012
From: dwilson314 at verizon.net (David L. Wilson)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 23:29:38 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Non-Decoding WSPR signal on 475.730 KHz
In-Reply-To: <1356656736.64262.YahooMailClassic@web125306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1356656736.64262.YahooMailClassic@web125306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000601cde4b3$f311ee90$d935cbb0$@verizon.net>

I thought I saw that earlier but all I see now is WG2XIQ
0256 -29 -0.7   0.475675  1 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0304 -22 -0.6   0.475677  1 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0308 -21 -0.6   0.475677  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0324 -29 -0.6   0.475677  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0336 -23 -0.5   0.475676  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0340 -26 -0.5   0.475676  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0344 -23 -0.5   0.475676  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0346 -29 -0.6   0.475675 -1 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0350 -24 -0.5   0.475675  1 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0356 -27 -0.5   0.475674  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0406 -26 -0.5   0.475674  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0412 -25 -0.3   0.475674  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0416 -21 -0.4   0.475674  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0422 -30 -0.4   0.475673  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30

--
David L. Wilson
dwilson314 at verizon.net

> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-
> bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Andy - KU4XR
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 8:06 PM
> To: 600MRG at w7ekb.com; lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Lowfer] Non-Decoding WSPR signal on 475.730 KHz
> 
> Seeing a good WSPR signal showing up, but not decoding.. It sounds like
the
> timing is slow by a few seconds..
> 
> Andy - KU4XR
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From jlangridge at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 27 23:32:35 2012
From: jlangridge at sbcglobal.net (John Langridge)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 20:32:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Non-Decoding WSPR signal on 475.730 KHz
In-Reply-To: <000601cde4b3$f311ee90$d935cbb0$@verizon.net>
References: <1356656736.64262.YahooMailClassic@web125306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<000601cde4b3$f311ee90$d935cbb0$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1356669155.91831.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Thanks for the reports David!

John/XIQ




________________________________
From: David L. Wilson <dwilson314 at verizon.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thu, December 27, 2012 10:29:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Non-Decoding WSPR signal on 475.730 KHz

I thought I saw that earlier but all I see now is WG2XIQ
0256 -29 -0.7   0.475675  1 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0304 -22 -0.6   0.475677  1 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0308 -21 -0.6   0.475677  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0324 -29 -0.6   0.475677  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0336 -23 -0.5   0.475676  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0340 -26 -0.5   0.475676  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0344 -23 -0.5   0.475676  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0346 -29 -0.6   0.475675 -1 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0350 -24 -0.5   0.475675  1 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0356 -27 -0.5   0.475674  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0406 -26 -0.5   0.475674  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0412 -25 -0.3   0.475674  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0416 -21 -0.4   0.475674  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0422 -30 -0.4   0.475673  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30

--
David L. Wilson
dwilson314 at verizon.net

> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-
> bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Andy - KU4XR
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 8:06 PM
> To: 600MRG at w7ekb.com; lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Lowfer] Non-Decoding WSPR signal on 475.730 KHz
> 
> Seeing a good WSPR signal showing up, but not decoding.. It sounds like
the
> timing is slow by a few seconds..
> 
> Andy - KU4XR
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Fri Dec 28 09:40:05 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:40:05 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Navtex
Message-ID: <50DDAF45.9000501@sbcglobal.net>

It was a good night for 518 kHz propagation to Greenland. Area 4 station 
W decoded at 0340Z, and station M was in there at both 0600Z and 1000Z. 
Nothing noted from Europe though on 490 kHz, just the Canadian big 3 
stations - D, J, and V (S seems off for the winter).
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From jhjesse at verizon.net  Fri Dec 28 13:05:44 2012
From: jhjesse at verizon.net (JJ)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:05:44 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG & SJ
Message-ID: <50DDDF78.7050203@verizon.net>

I noticed that SJs sig was very unstable earlier today.  About 30 mins 
ago it straightened out and 15 mins ago went off the air.
TAG is MIA.  Storm damage?

Jon WS1K

From w1tag at charter.net  Fri Dec 28 14:02:02 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:02:02 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG & SJ
In-Reply-To: <50DDDF78.7050203@verizon.net>
References: <50DDDF78.7050203@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <FB2B6586-4008-42D0-9A8A-86497DD46752@charter.net>

Jon,

The power appears to be out at the TAG site in Maine. Must have gone out in the Thursday storm. I checked the webcam up there before heading to Boston (it being December 27th) and all seemed to be OK. But by last evening, the webcam and TAG were both gone. 

That's a very rural power line - Few customers this time of year. 

John, W1TAG



On Dec 28, 2012, at 1:05 PM, JJ <jhjesse at verizon.net> wrote:

> I noticed that SJs sig was very unstable earlier today.  About 30 mins ago it straightened out and 15 mins ago went off the air.
> TAG is MIA.  Storm damage?
> 
> Jon WS1K
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From jhjesse at verizon.net  Fri Dec 28 14:21:09 2012
From: jhjesse at verizon.net (JJ)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:21:09 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG & SJ
In-Reply-To: <FB2B6586-4008-42D0-9A8A-86497DD46752@charter.net>
References: <50DDDF78.7050203@verizon.net>
	<FB2B6586-4008-42D0-9A8A-86497DD46752@charter.net>
Message-ID: <50DDF125.6040708@verizon.net>

Hi John,
I thought as much.  Hopefully it'll be back soon.

Jon

On 12/28/2012 2:02 PM, John Andrews wrote:
> Jon,
>
> The power appears to be out at the TAG site in Maine. Must have gone out in the Thursday storm. I checked the webcam up there before heading to Boston (it being December 27th) and all seemed to be OK. But by last evening, the webcam and TAG were both gone.
>
> That's a very rural power line - Few customers this time of year.
>
> John, W1TAG
>
>
>
>


From jhjesse at verizon.net  Fri Dec 28 14:23:45 2012
From: jhjesse at verizon.net (JJ)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:23:45 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MP
Message-ID: <50DDF1C1.90909@verizon.net>

MP has a fat signal today.  I see the sun is quiet.  That combined with 
the cold WX across the country and no t-storms should make for a good 
night of listening.

Jon WS1K


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From k2ors at verizon.net  Fri Dec 28 14:51:36 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:51:36 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 CW;  WD2XGJ QRSS 6 on 136.745
Message-ID: <50DDF848.3090001@verizon.net>

I just turned WE2XGR/1 on 2:47PM EST Friday usual 506.3 CW

Thanks to N4LTA and K3JT/8 for the reports last night!

I believe that WD2XGJ is churning out QRSS 6 on 136.745 but can't yet 
monitor that remotely.

Reports as always appreciated!
I will send QSLs if requested!



73 Warren K2ORS


From kb4oer at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 15:12:26 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 15:12:26 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MP
In-Reply-To: <50DDF1C1.90909@verizon.net>
References: <50DDF1C1.90909@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7a952jyhGewq7W2TZJEe-+0gHyi-p5vXYVWAmeg_jBKOw@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, it might be a good night for LF. I don't see many lightning strikes
over the U.S.

Doug KB4OER

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:23 PM, JJ <jhjesse at verizon.net> wrote:

> MP has a fat signal today.  I see the sun is quiet.  That combined with
> the cold WX across the country and no t-storms should make for a good night
> of listening.
>
> Jon WS1K
>
>
>
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From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Fri Dec 28 16:24:18 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:24:18 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. TXing every night from sunset until sunrise (weather
 permitting) at 475.7 KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50DA2146.2000400@bellsouth.net>
References: <50DA2146.2000400@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50DE0E02.6050302@bellsouth.net>






*Dial Frequency 474.2 KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/









From rjraide at hotmail.com  Fri Dec 28 17:13:54 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:13:54 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] OP8 again tonite...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W4986F93A3C7A26889AB786AC3F0@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR NY back with OP8 start 2230 usual 498 dial-499.55 Tx freqs-Bob 		 	   		  

From no3m at no3m.net  Fri Dec 28 17:32:39 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric Tichansky)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:32:39 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XJM CQ
Message-ID: <50DE1E07.7000408@no3m.net>

WG2XJM will call CQ on 474.0 kHz, CW, on the hour from 0000Z - 0500Z, 
approx. 8W ERP.  I'll QSY to 137.2 kHz about 10 minutes after the hour 
to call CQ, 125mW ERP.

QSOs or reports appreciated.

73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 17:47:57 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:47:57 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] OP8 again tonite...
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W4986F93A3C7A26889AB786AC3F0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W4986F93A3C7A26889AB786AC3F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7YM6263dgNc9Xw6449V=-s1H9YJo9ChKK5MLu+UEHcu0w@mail.gmail.com>

Opera baffles me. Your signal, from what I can tell, appears strong, yet
decodes are few. WSPR would have decoded your signal easily.

I must be doing something wrong.

Doug

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Bob Raide <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> WE6XGR NY back with OP8 start 2230 usual 498 dial-499.55 Tx freqs-Bob
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 17:49:31 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:49:31 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] OP8 again tonite...
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7YM6263dgNc9Xw6449V=-s1H9YJo9ChKK5MLu+UEHcu0w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU162-W4986F93A3C7A26889AB786AC3F0@phx.gbl>
	<CABP+t7YM6263dgNc9Xw6449V=-s1H9YJo9ChKK5MLu+UEHcu0w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7Y2mZqWu-qMSOOgx36=3vPOg5d2P52jJ28q=2tO7XweNQ@mail.gmail.com>

Just got a decode. Still OP8 appears so much inferior to WSPR that I still
belive I have something wrong on my end.

-Doug KB4OER

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com>wrote:

> Opera baffles me. Your signal, from what I can tell, appears strong, yet
> decodes are few. WSPR would have decoded your signal easily.
>
> I must be doing something wrong.
>
> Doug
>
> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Bob Raide <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> WE6XGR NY back with OP8 start 2230 usual 498 dial-499.55 Tx freqs-Bob
>> ______________________________________________________________
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 17:50:34 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:50:34 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] OP8 again tonite...
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7Y2mZqWu-qMSOOgx36=3vPOg5d2P52jJ28q=2tO7XweNQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU162-W4986F93A3C7A26889AB786AC3F0@phx.gbl>
	<CABP+t7YM6263dgNc9Xw6449V=-s1H9YJo9ChKK5MLu+UEHcu0w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABP+t7Y2mZqWu-qMSOOgx36=3vPOg5d2P52jJ28q=2tO7XweNQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7Zm9CNRBN5_aw5rquSrwkJjjrwh0G7XS76MmvipVocdSg@mail.gmail.com>

Or am I not allowing OP8 enough time? Does it take longer for a successful
decode?

D.

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com>wrote:

> Just got a decode. Still OP8 appears so much inferior to WSPR that I still
> belive I have something wrong on my end.
>
> -Doug KB4OER
>
> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Opera baffles me. Your signal, from what I can tell, appears strong, yet
>> decodes are few. WSPR would have decoded your signal easily.
>>
>> I must be doing something wrong.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Bob Raide <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> WE6XGR NY back with OP8 start 2230 usual 498 dial-499.55 Tx freqs-Bob
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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>>
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From no3m at no3m.net  Fri Dec 28 18:15:01 2012
From: no3m at no3m.net (Eric Tichansky)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:15:01 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] OP8 again tonite...
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7Zm9CNRBN5_aw5rquSrwkJjjrwh0G7XS76MmvipVocdSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU162-W4986F93A3C7A26889AB786AC3F0@phx.gbl>	<CABP+t7YM6263dgNc9Xw6449V=-s1H9YJo9ChKK5MLu+UEHcu0w@mail.gmail.com>	<CABP+t7Y2mZqWu-qMSOOgx36=3vPOg5d2P52jJ28q=2tO7XweNQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABP+t7Zm9CNRBN5_aw5rquSrwkJjjrwh0G7XS76MmvipVocdSg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50DE27F5.20600@no3m.net>

If I remember correctly, then number signifies the time in minutes to 
complete one message, so yes, OP8 is about 4 times "slower" then WSPR.

Opera is basically encoded QRSS; it uses CW elements, but the element 
combinations (ie. characters) are not standard CW.  In fact, as far as I 
am aware, the encoding is still not public knowledge, neither explicitly 
published nor able to be observed in any source code should someone wish 
to understand how it operates.  For amateur operation, this is somewhat 
questionable in my opinion, perhaps not legally, but goes against the 
tradition and spirit of amateur digital modes.  ROS modes probably are 
in the same category (same author).

73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM

On 12/28/2012 17:50, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
> Or am I not allowing OP8 enough time? Does it take longer for a successful
> decode?
>    


From kb4oer at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 18:16:47 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:16:47 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] OP8 again tonite...
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7Zm9CNRBN5_aw5rquSrwkJjjrwh0G7XS76MmvipVocdSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU162-W4986F93A3C7A26889AB786AC3F0@phx.gbl>
	<CABP+t7YM6263dgNc9Xw6449V=-s1H9YJo9ChKK5MLu+UEHcu0w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABP+t7Y2mZqWu-qMSOOgx36=3vPOg5d2P52jJ28q=2tO7XweNQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABP+t7Zm9CNRBN5_aw5rquSrwkJjjrwh0G7XS76MmvipVocdSg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7YTDhERCm=GcxHphQj9r0WF=Ef4HQFvW=iV2kpDeg1LJA@mail.gmail.com>

Well, I think I may have found part of the problem. There seems to be a
strong QRSS QSO taking place near your OP8 transmit frequency.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33457409/LFQSO.jpg


-Doug KB4OER



On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com>wrote:

> Or am I not allowing OP8 enough time? Does it take longer for a successful
> decode?
>
> D.
>
> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Just got a decode. Still OP8 appears so much inferior to WSPR that I
>> still belive I have something wrong on my end.
>>
>> -Doug KB4OER
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Opera baffles me. Your signal, from what I can tell, appears strong, yet
>>> decodes are few. WSPR would have decoded your signal easily.
>>>
>>> I must be doing something wrong.
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Bob Raide <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> WE6XGR NY back with OP8 start 2230 usual 498 dial-499.55 Tx freqs-Bob
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Fri Dec 28 18:42:13 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:42:13 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] OP8 again tonite...
Message-ID: <50DE2E55.7040700@sbcglobal.net>

Doug, that isn't another QSO. Every 8 minutes Opera8 jumps to a new 
frequency for the next interval.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com  Fri Dec 28 21:08:29 2012
From: hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com (Laurence KL1 X)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:08:29 -0900
Subject: [Lowfer] VLF
Message-ID: <BLU153-W232936C1CF03B074D980E5CF3E0@phx.gbl>


23kHz TACAMO like signal - started 02Z - pretune carrier only was stronger than NAA etc 

 Laurence KL 1 X Alaska
Omni
 		 	   		  

From wrcromwell at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 21:50:57 2012
From: wrcromwell at gmail.com (Bill Cromwell)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:50:57 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XSH/7 CW near 475 kc
Message-ID: <1356749457.3849.8.camel@lancelot>

Hi,

I have WD2XSH/7 on CW down at the noise level here (log time is 02:30Z).
I am copying everything in the transmission except that the propagation
fairies are playing tricks and the station fades *out* just as it is
getting ready to send it's grid square location! I could look it up but
I have listened through a couple of cycles and it fades all the way out
at the same place! I'm in northern Michigan at grid square EN74oh and I
know that Natchitoches Louisiana is NOT nearby.

Still listening and it's still tanking just before the grid square. It's
uncanny!

73,

Bill  KU8H


From mbdittmar at comcast.net  Fri Dec 28 22:15:54 2012
From: mbdittmar at comcast.net (Mark)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:15:54 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] MBD - 187.505 khz  QRS30 tonight
Message-ID: <105f01cde572$d09328b0$6601a8c0@Scooter>

Hi-

Lowfer "MBD" now transmitting QRS30 mode on 187.505 khz from DM79kv, near Denver, CO.  Will try to keep the beacon on overnight.  Any reception reports gladly accepted.

73 Mark AB0CW, lowfer MBD

From k2ors at verizon.net  Fri Dec 28 22:21:02 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 22:21:02 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 cw, WD2XGJ 136.745 QRSS6
Message-ID: <50DE619E.6040005@verizon.net>

Just got back home and fixed the problem with WD2XGJ so it is back on 
QRSS 6 on 136.745

WE2XGR/1 is running cw on 506.3

  Reports welcome and QSLs available on request.

73 Warren K2ORS


From wrcromwell at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 22:38:19 2012
From: wrcromwell at gmail.com (Bill Cromwell)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 22:38:19 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WG2XJM CQ
Message-ID: <1356752299.3849.14.camel@lancelot>

Hi,

I copied WG2XJM calling CQ near 474 kc loud and clear but barely
juggling the S meter. I also copied on the RAK-7 and the meter on that
one clearly came up off the peg but nothing really impressive. Loud and
clear on the RAK as well.

I copied him at 03:02 Z and when he stopped I heard another, weaker
station on a slightly different frequency calling him back. I picked up
my pencil to copy the other station's call or the ensuing QSO but XJM
did not hear the other station and resumed calling CQ. XJM won the
contest and I did not get the other station's call but could have if he
had repeated his attempt.

73,

Bill  KU8H


From wa3tts at verizon.net  Fri Dec 28 23:28:31 2012
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 23:28:31 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XGR/1 and XSH/7
Message-ID: <0C18C68FFE6A4BA3B01E86B883C1B62A@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All: About 0340~0345 12/29/12 copying WE2XGR/1 on 506.3 at -37.75 with Spectrum Lab and -53.5 background noise.

Copying WD2SXH/7 by the 475 watering hole about -38 on peaks with -56 background noise

SW EWE >VE7BPO LPF > modified HD-1420 > FT-817


73  Mike wa3tts

From k2ors at verizon.net  Fri Dec 28 23:33:11 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 23:33:11 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XGR/1 and XSH/7
In-Reply-To: <0C18C68FFE6A4BA3B01E86B883C1B62A@MichaelSappPC>
References: <0C18C68FFE6A4BA3B01E86B883C1B62A@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <50DE7287.30107@verizon.net>

Mike,

      Thanks for the report!
73 Warren K2ORS


On 12/28/2012 11:28 PM, Michael Sapp wrote:
> Hi All: About 0340~0345 12/29/12 copying WE2XGR/1 on 506.3 at -37.75 with Spectrum Lab and -53.5 background noise.
>
> Copying WD2SXH/7 by the 475 watering hole about -38 on peaks with -56 background noise
>
> SW EWE >VE7BPO LPF > modified HD-1420 > FT-817
>
>
> 73  Mike wa3tts
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 29 02:26:24 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 23:26:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] DK7FC in Friendsville, TN. on 630 Meters
Message-ID: <1356765984.1099.YahooMailClassic@web125306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Happy New Year all:  This reception shocked my socks off..
Honestly, I never thought it would ever happen, and then - 
my amazement... despite static crashes between S-7 to S-9,
and WD2XSH/7 - Ralphs constant S-9+ bone crushing signal 
only 130 Hz higher in frequency pounding my IF, and AGC;
I was able to get this capture...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49203948/DK7FC_QRSS-10_476_KHz_12-28-2012.jpg

I don't know what Stefans ERP is on 630 meters; but to 
even see this, went way beyond any expectation on my end..

73 all, and Thanks Stefan for a great new catch on 630 meters.

Andy - KU4XR - Friendsville, Tennessee - EM75xr

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sat Dec 29 06:57:28 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 06:57:28 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] DK7FC in Friendsville, TN. on 630 Meters
In-Reply-To: <1356765984.1099.YahooMailClassic@web125306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1356765984.1099.YahooMailClassic@web125306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7bW1-Yagq=VcqR46QbCezBQYzTowPCE1hKGgwPJEMn95Q@mail.gmail.com>

Congratulations Andy! Nice reception.

Looks like I gave up too soon. "Quitters never win and winners never quit."

73, Doug KB4OER

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 2:26 AM, Andy - KU4XR <ku4xr at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Happy New Year all:  This reception shocked my socks off..
> Honestly, I never thought it would ever happen, and then -
> my amazement... despite static crashes between S-7 to S-9,
> and WD2XSH/7 - Ralphs constant S-9+ bone crushing signal
> only 130 Hz higher in frequency pounding my IF, and AGC;
> I was able to get this capture...
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49203948/DK7FC_QRSS-10_476_KHz_12-28-2012.jpg
>
> I don't know what Stefans ERP is on 630 meters; but to
> even see this, went way beyond any expectation on my end..
>
> 73 all, and Thanks Stefan for a great new catch on 630 meters.
>
> Andy - KU4XR - Friendsville, Tennessee - EM75xr
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Dec 29 08:48:48 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 08:48:48 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Navtex overnight 28-29
In-Reply-To: <BLU153-W232936C1CF03B074D980E5CF3E0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU153-W232936C1CF03B074D980E5CF3E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <866E347C-7AD4-47F1-8A41-6158AB5BA4AF@hurontel.on.ca>

No outstanding DX, but I did manage several decodes of Bermuda and Puerto Rico Navtex overnight along with the regulars.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec 29 09:46:04 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 08:46:04 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Navtex overnight 28-29
Message-ID: <50DF022C.2010900@sbcglobal.net>

J.B., I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that $04N, Chesepeake, 
VA stayed keydown sending idle tones after its 1010Z window (which as 
usual it grossly over stepped - my last decode is time-stamped 1025Z). 
Perhaps your loop is able to null it well. Even when I'm pointed at 
right angles my small loop still picks up plenty of signal from it. 
Anyway, something similar happened not too long ago with the New Orleans 
station and David Wilson was nice enough to contact the Coast Guard to 
straighten out their station. If the keydown persists I'll check my 
notes and report it.

Well before $04N failed I did decode nice signals from $04M, 
Simiutaq/Cape Farewell, Greenland
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From planophore at aei.ca  Sat Dec 29 09:53:38 2012
From: planophore at aei.ca (Graham)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 14:53:38 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Navtex overnight 28-29
In-Reply-To: <866E347C-7AD4-47F1-8A41-6158AB5BA4AF@hurontel.on.ca>
References: <BLU153-W232936C1CF03B074D980E5CF3E0@phx.gbl>
	<866E347C-7AD4-47F1-8A41-6158AB5BA4AF@hurontel.on.ca>
Message-ID: <50DF03F2.6080200@aei.ca>

John (and all),

Your comments are quite interesting.

I monitor NAVTEX on a regular basis. So far this Fall/Winter I have only 
managed one small snippet from one of the Greenland sites and no 
Europeans. However, I do copy all the Canadian and US East Coast 
stations and Puerto Rico and Bermuda every night with great consistency. 
Your comments sound like that from you location Bermuda and Puerto Rico 
are not so regular decodes. It is interesting what differences a few 
hundred Kilometers separation can make.

One of my issues is that the Canadian and US East Coast stations often 
are transmitting at the same time and frequently interfere with one 
another and there is not much I can do about that.

cheers, Graham ve3gtc FN25ig in Embrun, SE of Ottawa

On 12-12-29 01:48 PM, John Bruce McCreath wrote:
> No outstanding DX, but I did manage several decodes of Bermuda and Puerto Rico Navtex overnight along with the regulars.
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR
>
> LowFER Beacon "EAR"
> 188.830 kHz. QRSS30
> EN93dr
>
>


From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Dec 29 11:24:29 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 11:24:29 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] VLF/LF
Message-ID: <000501cde5e0$fa91b320$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

VTX2 17.0 kHz India was coming through nicely pre dawn so took a listen for JJY 40 kHz Japan not 
expecting to hear much. Was surprised to get 'weak but reasonable' copy of their ID this early in 
the season. Condx usually better on this path late Jan / early Feb.

http://www.w1vd.com/JJY122912.mp3

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 


From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Dec 29 11:38:11 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 11:38:11 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Tacamo
Message-ID: <001901cde5e2$e4613d80$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Tacamo 17.8 kHz alert. 

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Dec 29 11:45:41 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 11:45:41 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] DK7FC in Friendsville, TN. on 630 Meters
In-Reply-To: <1356765984.1099.YahooMailClassic@web125306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1356765984.1099.YahooMailClassic@web125306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43A7CCDD-55D4-424D-8687-735B9935714B@hurontel.on.ca>

Hi Andy, Lowfers,

You now have solid proof that your receive setup is capable of TA reception...congratulations on your accomplishment!
PA0A and DK7FC are my 600M TA loggings and I was thrilled that despite being inland hundreds of miles from the
east coast, I could pull them in.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From w1tag at charter.net  Sat Dec 29 11:56:07 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 11:56:07 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG's Back
Message-ID: <50DF20A7.403@charter.net>

It is, as of a few minutes ago. 185.297 kHz, QRSS30.

John, W1TAG

From cls at employees.org  Sat Dec 29 12:00:54 2012
From: cls at employees.org (Cliff Sojourner)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:00:54 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] OP8 again tonite...
In-Reply-To: <50DE27F5.20600@no3m.net>
References: <BLU162-W4986F93A3C7A26889AB786AC3F0@phx.gbl>	<CABP+t7YM6263dgNc9Xw6449V=-s1H9YJo9ChKK5MLu+UEHcu0w@mail.gmail.com>	<CABP+t7Y2mZqWu-qMSOOgx36=3vPOg5d2P52jJ28q=2tO7XweNQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABP+t7Zm9CNRBN5_aw5rquSrwkJjjrwh0G7XS76MmvipVocdSg@mail.gmail.com>
	<50DE27F5.20600@no3m.net>
Message-ID: <50DF21C6.7020206@employees.org>

hi Eric,

On 2012-12-28 15:15, Eric Tichansky wrote:
> If I remember correctly, then number signifies the time in minutes to 
> complete one message, so yes, OP8 is about 4 times "slower" then WSPR.
>
> Opera is basically encoded QRSS; it uses CW elements, but the element 
> combinations (ie. characters) are not standard CW.  In fact, as far as 
> I am aware, the encoding is still not public knowledge, neither 
> explicitly published nor able to be observed in any source code should 
> someone wish to understand how it operates.

see below, forwarded message from the opera yahoo group.  personally I 
doubt the author really divined all that encoding just by looking, that 
shows tremendous skill in cryptography, and would be too much work!

> For amateur operation, this is somewhat questionable in my opinion, 
> perhaps not legally, but goes against the tradition and spirit of 
> amateur digital modes.  ROS modes probably are in the same category 
> (same author).

yes, agreed.  anyways now it is clear that WSJT is superior in many ways.

Cliff  K6CLS

>
> 73 - Eric NO3M, WG2XJM
>
> On 12/28/2012 17:50, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
>> Or am I not allowing OP8 enough time? Does it take longer for a 
>> successful
>> decode?

To: O_P_E_R_A_ at yahoogroups.com
From: Guido<threeme3 at gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:05:57 +0100
Subject: [O_P_E_R_A_] Behind the scenes of OPERA - how does it work?

While Opera is in its experimental stages, the internal workings are hardly
known.

In order to address this mystery (and my personal curiosity) I have looking
in the Opera symbols construction (encoding) process by comparing the
output symbols for various callsign inputs. As it might have your interest
too what is happening behind the scenes, here are my findings so far with
Opera v1.1.9 to v1.2.8:

1. MESSAGE
First, a 51-bit message is constructed based on the operator's call-sign.
The message contains in sequence:
    bit 47-50: 4 unused bits (set to zero);
    bit 19-46: 28-bit packed integer holding a compressed instance of the
call-sign;
    bit 3-18: 16-bit check-sum of binary representation of bits 19-46 (this
is the check-sum of the packed callsign);
    bit 0-2: 3-bit check-sum of binary representation of bits 19-3 (this is
the check-sum of the packed call-sign and its checksum).

The 28-bit packed integer is constructed from the 6 callsign characters,
where the last digit in the prefix must be aligned to the 3rd position.
Each position is encoded in a certain radix and character encoding mapping:
    pos 1,   radix 37 with mapping [blank(0), A-Z(1-26), 0-9(27-37)];
    pos 2,   radix 36 with mapping [A-Z(0-25), 0-9(26-36)];
    pos 3,   radix 10 with mapping [0-9(0-9)];
    pos 4-6, radix 27 with mapping [blank(0), A-Z(1-26)].

The check-sums are based on a CRC with polynomial x^16 + x^15 + x^2 + 1
also known as CRC-16. Rationale for applying a 16 bits CRC is to be able to
block invalid messages on the receiver site while decoding a (error
corrected) message. Note that:
    a. check-sum is based on the binary representation in ASCII of the bits
specified (Rationale: should be not necessary, probably a practical reason
as the application can be based on string manipulations instead of binary
operations);
    b. a zero in the high- or low byte of the CRC result is replaced by
respectively 2B (hex) and 1B (hex), Rationale: should be not necessary,
unclear why this is done;
    c. the high- and the low bytes are swapped when put in the message where
for the 3-bit check-sum only the least significant bits are considered;

2. SCRAMBLING
Second, a 51-bit scrambled message is constructed by means of a XOR
operation with message and a pseudo-random noise vector 70ABF3680C8AB
(hex). Rationale for scrambling is to reduce repetitive zeros by ensuring
for enough transitions in the data independent on the end-users input,
preventing degraded hamming distances for zero code words, nevertheless for
the current code used it seems not to be necessary as the distance is
constant for k=3D3.

3. WALSH-HADAMARD CODE
Third, a Walsh-Hadamard code (k=3D3) is applied on the 51-bit message
resulting in a 119-bit message. With k=3D3 the Walsh-Hadamard code maps eve=
ry
3 bits of the message to a orthogonal codeword of length 2^(k-1) =3D 7 bits=
,
where the Hadamard code is obtained from an inverse 8th order Hadamard
matrix:
    000 0000000   001 1010101   010 0110011   011 1100110
    100 0001111   101 1011010   110 0111100   111 1101001
Rationale: Walsh-Hadamard code is an error-correcting code (block code)
that may be used on the receiver site for forward  error correction (FEC)
and error detection. Doing so, relaxes the signal requirements while
transmitting messages over very noise or unreliable (fading) channels,
approximating the Shannon capacity model.
With k=3D3, the minimum hamming distance of the code is 2^(k-1) =3D 4, with
this code a theoretical receiver can detect 2^(k-2)-1 =3D 1 error and corre=
ct
2^(k-3)-1 =3D 0 errors. The Walsh=96Hadamard code is a
locally decode-able code, which provides a way to recover parts of the
original message with high probability, while only looking at a small
fraction of the received word.  As an alternative to error-correction,
list-decoding may recover the original message on the receiver as long as
less than 1/2 of the bits in the received word have been corrupted.

4. INTERLEAVING
Fourth, the 119-bits message is block interleaved by writing the bits by
column in a 7-by-17 matrix and reading back by rows into the message.
Rationale: interleaving makes the block encoded message less vulnerable
against temporary decoding errors (fading, burst errors) by scattering of
the bits over the entire message (approximately written every 7 positions).

5. MANCHESTER ENCODING
Fifth, the 119-bits message is Manchester encoded (per IEEE802.3
convention) by encoding a 1-0 transition for a 0, and a 0-1 transition for
a 1, doubling the message length. Note that bit 238 and 239 are set to one
and that bit 0 is omitted, resulting in a 239-bit message. The binary
representation contains the symbols to be transmitted.

6. KEYING
Sixth, in the event of an transmission event, a frequency that is not
occupied is selected (that is the frequency that has the least energy just
before transmission), and each of the 239 symbols are transmitted by keying
the transmitter as CW on and off with a symbol rate of 0.256*n s/symbol,
where n is the integer of operation mode OPn that corresponds with the
Opera frequency recommendation:
OP32: 137.5-137.6 kHz
OP8: 137.7-137.5, 501.5-501.6, 1837.3-1837.5 kHz
OP4: 501.3-501.5, 1837.5-1837.9, 3576.3-3576.5, 5290.3-5290.5,
7039.3-7039.5, 10136.3-10136.5, 14066.3-14066.5 kHz
OP2: 3576.5-3576.9, 5290.5-5290.9, 7039.5-7039.9, 10136.5-10136.9,
14066.5-14066.9, 18106.3-18106.5, 21075.3-21075.5, 24926.3-24926.5,
28076.3-28076.5, 50701.3-50701.5, 70252.3-70252.5 kHz
OP1: 18106.5-18106.9, 21075.5-21075.9, 24926.5-24926.9, 28076.5-28076.9,
50701.5-50701.9, 70252.5-70525.9 kHz

On the decoder site, the inverse of above operations are done in reverse
order to retrieve the callsign of a received broadcast. An interesting
feature is to exploit the list-decoding potential of the Walsh-Hadamard
code in combination with the CRC check-sums in the message. With
list-decoding, a set of message possibilities is outputted and may be
evaluated for validity. This computation power with receiver gain.

73,
Guido
PE1NNZ



From jhjesse at verizon.net  Sat Dec 29 12:35:30 2012
From: jhjesse at verizon.net (JJ)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:35:30 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG's Back
In-Reply-To: <50DF20A7.403@charter.net>
References: <50DF20A7.403@charter.net>
Message-ID: <50DF29E2.2080201@verizon.net>

Yes it is.  Looking good.  SJ in there too and this is on the N/S loop.
Jon WS1K

On 12/29/2012 11:56 AM, John Andrews wrote:
> It is, as of a few minutes ago. 185.297 kHz, QRSS30.
>
> John, W1TAG

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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 29 12:59:21 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:59:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] MBD - 187.505 khz  QRS30 tonight
In-Reply-To: <105f01cde572$d09328b0$6601a8c0@Scooter>
Message-ID: <1356803961.54891.YahooMailClassic@web125302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I looked with ARGO from 3 am local time till past local sunrise
but had no good luck with reception.. Static was very high last
night which does not help matters.. Will try again another night.

Andy - KU4XR

> Hi-
> 
> Lowfer "MBD" now transmitting QRS30 mode on 187.505 khz from
> DM79kv, near Denver, CO.? Will try to keep the beacon
> on overnight.? Any reception reports gladly accepted.
> 
> 73 Mark AB0CW, lowfer MBD

From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sat Dec 29 14:14:06 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 14:14:06 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Navtex overnight 28-29
In-Reply-To: <50DF03F2.6080200@aei.ca>
References: <BLU153-W232936C1CF03B074D980E5CF3E0@phx.gbl>
	<866E347C-7AD4-47F1-8A41-6158AB5BA4AF@hurontel.on.ca>
	<50DF03F2.6080200@aei.ca>
Message-ID: <175E7C50-92DC-48E7-A54F-34173C2CCA81@hurontel.on.ca>

> So far this Fall/Winter I have only managed one small snippet from one of the Greenland sites and no Europeans. 

Hi Graham, Lowfers,

I find that the Labrador and Greenland Stations are decoded more frequently than Bermuda.  I have never had any
of the European stations show up, but perhaps I'd have better luck on 490 rather than 518 kHz.  To date my best
DX has been Puerto Mont, Chile which was on 518. 

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sat Dec 29 17:24:21 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:24:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] OPERA OP8 running for the evening...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W487B67C7BE97C0508AAEEBAC3E0@phx.gbl>




WE6XGR NY On now for the evening usual 498 dial freq 499.55 Tx freq for the evening-all decodes appreciated-Bob 		 	   		  

From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Sat Dec 29 17:28:57 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 22:28:57 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. TXing every night from sunset until sunrise (weather
 permitting) at 475.7 KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50DE0E02.6050302@bellsouth.net>
References: <50DE0E02.6050302@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50DF6EA9.7030207@bellsouth.net>







*Dial Frequency 474.2 KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/









From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sat Dec 29 20:57:51 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 20:57:51 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE6XGR on OP8 {OPERA]
Message-ID: <BLU162-W17CCBAD45381ED9F98159AAC3D0@phx.gbl>





On 499.55 tX freq-498 dial-Bob 		 	   		  

From mbdittmar at comcast.net  Sat Dec 29 21:59:09 2012
From: mbdittmar at comcast.net (Mark)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 19:59:09 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer MBD QRS30 testing tonight- 187.505 khz
Message-ID: <132d01cde639$a3f10b20$6601a8c0@Scooter>

Lowfer "MBD" now transmitting QRS30 mode on 187.505 khz from DM79kv, near Denver, CO. I will  keep the beacon on overnight until about 8 am tomorrow. Any reception reports gladly accepted.

I plan to run the beacon tonight (12/29) and sunday night, shutting down around 8 am or so the following mornings. 187.505 khz, QRS30. 

73 Mark AB0CW, lowfer MBD 

From k2ors at verizon.net  Sat Dec 29 23:19:08 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 23:19:08 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 CW & WD2XGJ 136.745 QRSS 6
Message-ID: <50DFC0BC.7080708@verizon.net>

WE2XGR/1 is running CW beacon mode on 506.3

WD2XGJ is running QRSS 6 on 136.745


Reports Welcome!

73 Warren K2ORS

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec 30 00:04:47 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 23:04:47 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 CW & WD2XGJ 136.745 QRSS 6
Message-ID: <50DFCB6F.50708@sbcglobal.net>

Warren, XGJ is putting a great signal into NE IL tonight.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec 30 07:28:38 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 06:28:38 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer MBD QRS30 testing tonight- 187.505 khz
Message-ID: <50E03376.30102@sbcglobal.net>

Hi Mark, the lightning map was practically empty over night and the 
lower noise floor compared to the previous night certainly helped. MBD 
peaked around 1100Z here. Thanks for running it at QRSS30.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec 30 07:37:23 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 07:37:23 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 4 in the hole
Message-ID: <CABP+t7Y9R+pb+wzhTL+myi-oiaw0xrNZs-2RPkm_rhLFEK4CCg@mail.gmail.com>

The 185.3 kHz Lowfer watering hole paid off with a screen capture showing
four QRSS IDs.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33457409/wateringhole.jpg


Had the other receiver tuned to MF WSPR which produced three unique decodes
(multiple times):


73, Doug KB4OER

TimestampCallMHzSNRDriftGridPwrReporterRGridkmaz 2012-12-30 02:38
WG2XKA 0.475776
-14 0 FN33ir 0.2 KB4OER EM86ui 1121 226 2012-12-30 02:36 WG2XIQ 0.475663 -5 -1
EM12mp 1 KB4OER EM86ui 1404 69 2012-12-30 02:34 WF2XXQ 0.475626 -15 0 EL95tq
0.05 KB4OER EM86ui 1200

352

From kb4oer at gmail.com  Sun Dec 30 07:38:52 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 07:38:52 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer MBD QRS30 testing tonight- 187.505 khz
In-Reply-To: <132d01cde639$a3f10b20$6601a8c0@Scooter>
References: <132d01cde639$a3f10b20$6601a8c0@Scooter>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7br4ZugAeRwXigGuqOgQjH1=uizjGoz=pJWaYkip3c7Qg@mail.gmail.com>

Mark, I will leave a receiver monitoring that frequency all night tonight
(Sunday night).

73, Doug KB4OER

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Mark <mbdittmar at comcast.net> wrote:

> Lowfer "MBD" now transmitting QRS30 mode on 187.505 khz from DM79kv, near
> Denver, CO. I will  keep the beacon on overnight until about 8 am tomorrow.
> Any reception reports gladly accepted.
>
> I plan to run the beacon tonight (12/29) and sunday night, shutting down
> around 8 am or so the following mornings. 187.505 khz, QRS30.
>
> 73 Mark AB0CW, lowfer MBD
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 30 08:34:17 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 05:34:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer MBD QRS30 testing tonight- 187.505 khz
Message-ID: <1356874457.18914.YahooMailClassic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

MDB peaked here at 12:00 UTC as it did at K3SIW QTH
1183 miles to Friendsville, TN.

73: Andy - KU4XR
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Sun Dec 30 09:27:39 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 09:27:39 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 CW & WD2XGJ 136.745 QRSS 6
In-Reply-To: <50DFCB6F.50708@sbcglobal.net>
References: <50DFCB6F.50708@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <50E04F5B.9050907@verizon.net>

Garry,

    Thank you for the report!
73 Warren


On 12/30/2012 12:04 AM, Garry Hess wrote:
> Warren, XGJ is putting a great signal into NE IL tonight.
>
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From mbdittmar at comcast.net  Sun Dec 30 10:34:05 2012
From: mbdittmar at comcast.net (Mark)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 08:34:05 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer MBD QRS30 testing tonight- 187.505 khz
References: <50E03376.30102@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <143b01cde6a3$1aaaa0a0$6601a8c0@Scooter>

Garry, thanks for listening for my signal.  That is a very nice capture, a 
good solid detection !

Thanks for the report,

73 Mark AB0CW, MBD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garry Hess" <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>
To: "lowfer list" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Lowfer MBD QRS30 testing tonight- 187.505 khz


> Hi Mark, the lightning map was practically empty over night and the
> lower noise floor compared to the previous night certainly helped. MBD
> peaked around 1100Z here. Thanks for running it at QRSS30.
> -- 
> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
>


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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sun Dec 30 08:53:09 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 08:53:09 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Upernavik navtex
In-Reply-To: <175E7C50-92DC-48E7-A54F-34173C2CCA81@hurontel.on.ca>
References: <BLU153-W232936C1CF03B074D980E5CF3E0@phx.gbl>
	<866E347C-7AD4-47F1-8A41-6158AB5BA4AF@hurontel.on.ca>
	<50DF03F2.6080200@aei.ca>
	<175E7C50-92DC-48E7-A54F-34173C2CCA81@hurontel.on.ca>
Message-ID: <ECA0435C-6F74-4BDB-8554-504EB4AC0947@hurontel.on.ca>

I got some navtex DX overnight with a good decode of Upernavik, Greenland plus all of the regulars, but no Bermuda.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From rjraide at hotmail.com  Sun Dec 30 17:15:06 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:15:06 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Back to WSPR for tonite...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W19ADAC0DD535D84C00BD6EAC3D0@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR NY on from 2230 for the evening-usual 498 Dial 499.5 Tx freq. 
Planing SSB group get together[510 upper] at 9 for about 20 minutes and then back to 498 dial w/wspr-Bob 		 	   		  

From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Sun Dec 30 17:25:16 2012
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 22:25:16 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WF2XXQ - WSPR Sched. from Miami,
 FL el95tq. TXing every night from sunset until sunrise (weather
 permitting) at 475.7 KHz w/58mW ERP
In-Reply-To: <50DF6EA9.7030207@bellsouth.net>
References: <50DF6EA9.7030207@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <50E0BF4C.9050802@bellsouth.net>








*Dial Frequency 474.2 KHz*.
2 minutes ON, 2 minutes OFF.
Reports are welcome.
73
Juan /K4LCD- WF2XXQ - https://sites.google.com/site/k4lcdars/









From stanw1le at verizon.net  Sun Dec 30 18:04:59 2012
From: stanw1le at verizon.net (Stan, W1LE)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 18:04:59 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Part 5 FCC Application
Message-ID: <50E0C89B.2020602@verizon.net>

Hello The Net:

I am pondering a FCC (online) form 422 application.

Do folks use their Amateur Radio FRN or do they get another one ?

When they ask for emission designations I am stumped.
for emission: XYZ,
X = A to X,
Y = 0-9 , x
  Z=A-F, N, W, X
The FCC also asks for modulating signal and necessary bandwidth.

So, what emission types have others requested ?
for WSPR, WSJT different modes, ROS, WOLF, OPERA, Digital Voice,
DFCW, QRSS/CW, and graphicals, etc.

Thanks   Stan, W1LE

From k2ors at verizon.net  Sun Dec 30 18:30:25 2012
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 18:30:25 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Part 5 FCC Application
In-Reply-To: <50E0C89B.2020602@verizon.net>
References: <50E0C89B.2020602@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <50E0CE91.60402@verizon.net>

Hi Stan,

    The FRN associated with your ham license is fine, no need to get a 
second one.
    For emissions, (1) First symbol?type of modulation of the main 
carrier;(2) Second symbol?nature of signal(s) modulating the main 
carrier; (3) Third symbol?type of information to be transmitted.
See FCC Rules Part 2 ( 2.201)

http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&SID=f47ba30adf43e43e7100b22f24b5d11f&rgn=div5&view=text&node=47:1.0.1.1.3&idno=47#47:1.0.1.1.3.3.214.1

OR Cut and paste the emissions from one of the existing licenses.
I don't recall what others may have requested but I know that the 
emissions in the WE2XGR grant cover almost every imaginable mode for 
500kHz (except maybe double sideband AM).

Let me know if you need more info.

73 Warren K2ORS




On 12/30/2012 6:04 PM, Stan, W1LE wrote:
> Hello The Net:
>
> I am pondering a FCC (online) form 422 application.
>
> Do folks use their Amateur Radio FRN or do they get another one ?
>
> When they ask for emission designations I am stumped.
> for emission: XYZ,
> X = A to X,
> Y = 0-9 , x
>   Z=A-F, N, W, X
> The FCC also asks for modulating signal and necessary bandwidth.
>
> So, what emission types have others requested ?
> for WSPR, WSJT different modes, ROS, WOLF, OPERA, Digital Voice,
> DFCW, QRSS/CW, and graphicals, etc.
>
> Thanks   Stan, W1LE
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From jlangridge at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec 30 18:32:03 2012
From: jlangridge at sbcglobal.net (John Langridge)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 15:32:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] Part 5 FCC Application
In-Reply-To: <50E0C89B.2020602@verizon.net>
References: <50E0C89B.2020602@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1356910323.13068.YahooMailRC@web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Stan,

yes, your FRN number is the same regardless of the service.  

The FCC expected emission designators for  each mode and the process is a bit 
tedious.  My advice is to search for Part 5 licenses and copy the tech details 
where applicable..  Thats what most people do anyway.

to search the OET, go to 
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/CallsignSearch.cfm an enter a part 5 
callsign and look at the current filing and exhibits.  My grant is pretty simple 
but I did not ask for much besides CW, MSK, and FSK.

73 and good luck!

John KB5NJD/WG2XIQ




________________________________
From: "Stan, W1LE" <stanw1le at verizon.net>
To: Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sun, December 30, 2012 5:05:10 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] Part 5 FCC Application

Hello The Net:

I am pondering a FCC (online) form 422 application.

Do folks use their Amateur Radio FRN or do they get another one ?

When they ask for emission designations I am stumped.
for emission: XYZ,
X = A to X,
Y = 0-9 , x
Z=A-F, N, W, X
The FCC also asks for modulating signal and necessary bandwidth.

So, what emission types have others requested ?
for WSPR, WSJT different modes, ROS, WOLF, OPERA, Digital Voice,
DFCW, QRSS/CW, and graphicals, etc.

Thanks   Stan, W1LE
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sun Dec 30 18:41:52 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 18:41:52 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XNS 137.781
Message-ID: <004c01cde6e7$3e92e2e0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

WD2XNS is transmitting on 137781 tonight. Reports appreciated!

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

From w1tag at charter.net  Sun Dec 30 18:44:57 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 18:44:57 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XNS 137.781
In-Reply-To: <004c01cde6e7$3e92e2e0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <004c01cde6e7$3e92e2e0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <50E0D1F9.7040003@charter.net>

...and WD2XES is on 137.779.

John, W1TAG/WD2XES

On 12/30/2012 6:41 PM, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
> WD2XNS is transmitting on 137781 tonight. Reports appreciated!
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sun Dec 30 18:49:43 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 18:49:43 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XNS 137.781
References: <004c01cde6e7$3e92e2e0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<50E0D1F9.7040003@charter.net>
Message-ID: <005501cde6e8$57a05960$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Also active ... Dex (XKO), Joe (NA) and Mitch (MP). Sounds like a full house kinda night on LF! 
DK7FC, DF6NM and PA0CPM also active at 136170 - 136173.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag at charter.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WD2XNS 137.781


> ...and WD2XES is on 137.779.
>
> John, W1TAG/WD2XES
>
> On 12/30/2012 6:41 PM, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
>> WD2XNS is transmitting on 137781 tonight. Reports appreciated!
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
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From listread at lwca.org  Sun Dec 30 20:06:05 2012
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:06:05 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XNS 137.781
References: <004c01cde6e7$3e92e2e0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL><50E0D1F9.7040003@charter.net>
	<005501cde6e8$57a05960$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <A46B089547E0435BA7BA9F12C83FDD9B@HPNOTEBOOK>

Yup, everyone except NA was right there at sunset here in SE Kansas!  Looked 
like there might be bits and pieces of NA near the possible PLC, but it was 
too early to tell for sure,

After enough dashes from XKO, it looked like the ionosphere was getting a 
little temporarily depleted for everyone else... :)

Will look again after I warm up a bit and return to the field later tonight, 
although I'll mainly be looking for 1750 meter stations during that session.

John 
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From w1tag at charter.net  Sun Dec 30 21:42:12 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 21:42:12 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] YV7MAE Grabber
Message-ID: <50E0FB84.7030204@charter.net>

Lots of activity on the YV7MAE grabber tonight:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/74746618/LF/YV7MAE_LF_Grabber.html

XNS is very clear, and has been since early evening. There are signs of 
MP and XES (despite being dead in the null of my xmit loop). XKO and 
VO1NA are clearly visible.

John, W1TAG

From cls at employees.org  Mon Dec 31 01:09:42 2012
From: cls at employees.org (Cliff Sojourner)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 22:09:42 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] ok I give up
Message-ID: <50E12C26.4020100@employees.org>

OK - I give up - my shack PC has 3 sound cards.  how can I get ARGO 
(Argovation!) to use one of the three instead of the mic port?!?!?

I hit the menu Setup -> select input -> choose real time input but it 
doesn't change anything.

is there a better program that actually works?

thanks
Cliff  K6CLS   CM87


From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 31 02:21:30 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 01:21:30 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 137 kHz Six Pack
Message-ID: <50E13CFA.20200@sbcglobal.net>

Record activity on 137 kHz tonight. Like on the YV7 grabber, six signals 
are coming through: XJ (DFCW from WG2XJM), XNS, MP, XES, WD2XKO, and 
VO1NA (QRSS tonight).
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 31 02:41:04 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 02:41:04 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR tonite...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W34112A0B9282CDCD791A20AC3C0@phx.gbl>


WE6XGR NY with 441 decodes on 498kHz. Fair condx prevaled on 500 tonite.  Thanks to the following;
F59706
RLS [CALIF]
VE3CTT
PA3ABK/50
F4DTL
VE7BDQ
G8HUH
G0KTN
DL-SWL
I WILL GOING TO 137 WITH QRSS60 TOMORROW NITE-HOPE SOME OF YOU COULD SEE WHAT GOES ON THAT LOW A FREQ-73-BOB 		 	   		  

From listread at lwca.org  Mon Dec 31 03:41:52 2012
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 02:41:52 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 137 kHz Six Pack (aka Out Freezing in My Field)
References: <50E13CFA.20200@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <88EA5F4881EB4B959491000F738B53F9@HPNOTEBOOK>

Only got faint traces of what was probably NA here in SEK, but did get 
WD2XKO being very formal tonight; what I take to be SL in slightly tall 
DFCW; XES; MP; XJ in FHDFCW (frequency hopping at start-up, that is) and 
XNS.

It was not nearly as quiet when I got back to the field as when I left it, 
about an hour after sunset.  Static had been only the occasional pop, and 
most of the time the S-meter was sitting at 2, roughly the threshold of AGC 
on the R-5000.  When I went back out to listen, about 10 PM CST, I first 
looked at 136.17, but static was frequent at S5 with occasional excursions 
to S7.  After 45 minutes of nothing, I made a quick scan for MBD, EAR, and 
the 185.3 watering hole with similar noise, so I figured 137.78 was the best 
bet for a while.  At least I could hear the carriers coming and going there.

After the attached capture, I resumed looking at the watering hole.  I saw a 
bit of WMS and SIW, but nothing else.  The static level began diminishing 
eventually, so I went back to listening for MBD until the freezing rain 
started getting a bit heavy about 2 o'clock.

John 
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 31 05:55:02 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 04:55:02 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 137 kHz Six Pack (aka Out Freezing in My Field)
Message-ID: <50E16F06.6070903@sbcglobal.net>

John, thanks for pointing out there was actually a seventh signal on 137 
kHz last night. I saw traces from Steve, VE7SL pm 138.778 kHz (sending 
SL in DFCW) but they didn't register as a signal. Instead thought it was 
IM from the many very strong signals in there. Glad you persevered 
through the bad weather to make your very nice screen shot. The 
lightning map looks good here but like you I noticed the noise floor was 
up compared to the previous evening.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From dexter.mc at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 06:45:59 2012
From: dexter.mc at gmail.com (Dexter McIntyre W4DEX)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 06:45:59 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ok I give up
In-Reply-To: <50E12C26.4020100@employees.org>
References: <50E12C26.4020100@employees.org>
Message-ID: <50E17AF7.2060001@gmail.com>

Cliff Sojourner wrote:
> OK - I give up - my shack PC has 3 sound cards.  how can I get ARGO 
> (Argovation!) to use one of the three instead of the mic port?!?!?
>
> I hit the menu Setup -> select input -> choose real time input but it 
> doesn't change anything.
 From the same select input option choose open sound card mixer.  From 
there you can select the desired input.
>
> is there a better program that actually works?
Try SpectrumLab.  Just kidding :)   Argo is as simple as it gets.  
That's the reason it's so popular.

Dex


From dexter.mc at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 06:54:38 2012
From: dexter.mc at gmail.com (Dexter McIntyre W4DEX)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 06:54:38 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 137 kHz Six Pack (aka Out Freezing in My Field)
In-Reply-To: <88EA5F4881EB4B959491000F738B53F9@HPNOTEBOOK>
References: <50E13CFA.20200@sbcglobal.net>
	<88EA5F4881EB4B959491000F738B53F9@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <50E17CFE.5040903@gmail.com>

That resembles to old lowfer watering hole days which I really enjoyed.  
It's almost impossible to repeat such good times but I think it's time 
to try. 

Dex

JD wrote:
> Only got faint traces of what was probably NA here in SEK, but did get 
> WD2XKO being very formal tonight; what I take to be SL in slightly tall 
> DFCW; XES; MP; XJ in FHDFCW (frequency hopping at start-up, that is) and 
> XNS.
>
>
>   
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>   


From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Mon Dec 31 07:23:35 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 07:23:35 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 137 kHz Six Pack (aka Out Freezing in My Field)
References: <50E13CFA.20200@sbcglobal.net><88EA5F4881EB4B959491000F738B53F9@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<50E17CFE.5040903@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004501cde751$a7f6d0b0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

> That resembles to old lowfer watering hole days which I really enjoyed.  It's almost impossible to 
> repeat such good times but I think it's time to try.


Yes ... that was the pinnacle of Lowferdom! And that was 1-watt, Part 15 operations ... not Part 5! 
Amazing when you think about it. For those that are unaware of what we speak, check out 
http://www.w3eee.com/  and on the left side select Argo Gallery and then scroll down to  'Lowfer' 
(160-190kHz) and others, and check out 'A Decifer' and 'A Elevenfer'. Well worth the look ... and a 
nice trip down memory lane.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 (ex Lowfer beacon VD)





From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 08:07:53 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:07:53 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 137 kHz Six Pack (aka Out Freezing in My Field)
In-Reply-To: <004501cde751$a7f6d0b0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <50E13CFA.20200@sbcglobal.net>
	<88EA5F4881EB4B959491000F738B53F9@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<50E17CFE.5040903@gmail.com>
	<004501cde751$a7f6d0b0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7Y4g+yaK1JTu9tVCEnpncMkwKB1t2d2x=Ojk9wH_6gVTw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for that link, Jay. I had never visited that web page before. Full
of good stuff!

73, Doug KB4OER

On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 7:23 AM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> That resembles to old lowfer watering hole days which I really enjoyed.
>>  It's almost impossible to repeat such good times but I think it's time to
>> try.
>>
>
>
> Yes ... that was the pinnacle of Lowferdom! And that was 1-watt, Part 15
> operations ... not Part 5! Amazing when you think about it. For those that
> are unaware of what we speak, check out http://www.w3eee.com/  and on the
> left side select Argo Gallery and then scroll down to  'Lowfer'
> (160-190kHz) and others, and check out 'A Decifer' and 'A Elevenfer'. Well
> worth the look ... and a nice trip down memory lane.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 (ex Lowfer beacon VD)
>
>
>
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 08:19:23 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:19:23 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer MBD QRS30 testing tonight- 187.505 khz
In-Reply-To: <143b01cde6a3$1aaaa0a0$6601a8c0@Scooter>
References: <50E03376.30102@sbcglobal.net>
	<143b01cde6a3$1aaaa0a0$6601a8c0@Scooter>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7ZGtRkN7nRHgULdwy0z44i0XoB9RSDrd53McHR+9cN5dA@mail.gmail.com>

No matter how much I squint at my screen captures, I can't make out an id.
QRN was fairly high here last night, around S7.

Will try again next time. Keep us informed of your transmit schedule.

73, Doug KB4OER

On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Mark <mbdittmar at comcast.net> wrote:

> Garry, thanks for listening for my signal.  That is a very nice capture, a
> good solid detection !
>
> Thanks for the report,
>
> 73 Mark AB0CW, MBD
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garry Hess" <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "lowfer list" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 5:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Lowfer MBD QRS30 testing tonight- 187.505 khz
>
>
>
>  Hi Mark, the lightning map was practically empty over night and the
>> lower noise floor compared to the previous night certainly helped. MBD
>> peaked around 1100Z here. Thanks for running it at QRSS30.
>> --
>> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
>>
>>
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From ku7zdn41 at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 08:32:12 2012
From: ku7zdn41 at gmail.com (Mark Ku7z)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 06:32:12 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] 137 last night
Message-ID: <50E193DC.9000306@gmail.com>

Here is a link to a couple of grabs from last night.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/j2708aqitkfofiu/fIXQch2sGv

  Great showing for my station here!  Hopefully conditions will hold up 
for the New Years Eve show!  There is a signal down around 137.776 and 
another at the bottom by 137.772.  Could these have been someone testing?

Tnx to all the transmitters for having these on the air together last 
night!

Happy New Year!

73, Mark, Ku7z
DN41af
Ogden, Northern UT (NUT)

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 31 08:36:03 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 07:36:03 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Navtex
Message-ID: <50E194C3.5050605@sbcglobal.net>

Listened sporadically to Navtex over night. Best catches on 518 kHz were 
Greenland, $04W, 0740Z window; Bermuda, $04B, 0810Z window; and Tofino, 
BC, $12H, 1157Z (differs from NAVTEXview v2.1 schedule). On 490 kHz just 
decoded the usual 3 "locals" - D, J, and V.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 31 08:48:15 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 07:48:15 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] 137 last night
Message-ID: <50E1979F.4060902@sbcglobal.net>

Hi Mark,

Nice captures! I wonder if the dasher signal is from Laurence in AK. I 
think he's sent a signal like that before. From your first capture it 
looks like it QSY'd up to be closer to fit in the argo waterfall better. 
No idea about the signal down near 137772.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From stanw1le at verizon.net  Mon Dec 31 11:03:37 2012
From: stanw1le at verizon.net (Stan, W1LE)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:03:37 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] YV7MAE Grabber
In-Reply-To: <50E0FB84.7030204@charter.net>
References: <50E0FB84.7030204@charter.net>
Message-ID: <50E1B759.1030607@verizon.net>

Hello John,

Thanks for the pointer to a southerly grabber.

Another grabber, north-notheasterly,  is at:
http://simnet.is/halldorgudmunds/TF3HZ_LFgrabber/

A south westerly grabber, (now off line, but potential)  can be found at:
http://vk1od.net/grabber/grabber.php

Some LF RX products are at:
http://icas.to/e/lineup.htm

Some notes on setting up your very own grabber can be found at:
http://vk1od.net/module/QrssTx/utility.htm

Stan, W1LE    Cape Cod   FN41sr






On 12/30/2012 9:42 PM, John Andrews wrote:
> Lots of activity on the YV7MAE grabber tonight:
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/74746618/LF/YV7MAE_LF_Grabber.html
>
> XNS is very clear, and has been since early evening. There are signs 
> of MP and XES (despite being dead in the null of my xmit loop). XKO 
> and VO1NA are clearly visible.
>
> John, W1TAG
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From stanw1le at verizon.net  Mon Dec 31 11:28:39 2012
From: stanw1le at verizon.net (Stan, W1LE)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:28:39 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] More interesting Links
Message-ID: <50E1BD37.5060008@verizon.net>

Hello The Net:

Was following my nose this AM and found:

Has potential with a xtal change:
http://www.hanssummers.com/qrsskit.html

Also potential with a xtal and output filter change:
http://www.etherkit.com/transmitters/openbeacon.html

Stan, W1LE

From stanw1le at verizon.net  Mon Dec 31 11:44:54 2012
From: stanw1le at verizon.net (Stan, W1LE)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:44:54 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ok I give up
In-Reply-To: <50E12C26.4020100@employees.org>
References: <50E12C26.4020100@employees.org>
Message-ID: <50E1C106.7000304@verizon.net>

Hello Cliff,

ARGO works for me.

1. What version of ARGO are you using ?
www. weaksignals.com    may have a newer version.

2. Are all of your sound cards successfully installed with drivers for 
your OS ?

I am currently using WIN7 64 bit with ARGO and a ESI-MAYA44-XTE PCIe 
soundcard.

Stan, W1LE    Cape Cod   FN41sr



On 12/31/2012 1:09 AM, Cliff Sojourner wrote:
> OK - I give up - my shack PC has 3 sound cards.  how can I get ARGO 
> (Argovation!) to use one of the three instead of the mic port?!?!?
>
> I hit the menu Setup -> select input -> choose real time input but it 
> doesn't change anything.
>
> is there a better program that actually works?
>
> thanks
> Cliff  K6CLS   CM87


From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 31 11:52:33 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:52:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] 137 last night
In-Reply-To: <50E1979F.4060902@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1356972753.54967.YahooMailClassic@web125306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

The " Dasher " is John - BDO sending a " T " in QRSS-90

Andy

--- On Mon, 12/31/12, Garry Hess <k3siw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> Nice captures! I wonder if the dasher signal is from
> Laurence in AK. I think he's sent a signal like that before.
> From your first capture it looks like it QSY'd up to be
> closer to fit in the argo waterfall better. No idea about
> the signal down near 137772.
> -- 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL


From k0az at centurytel.net  Mon Dec 31 11:55:37 2012
From: k0az at centurytel.net (Mike Sanders)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:55:37 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] ok I give up
In-Reply-To: <50E1C106.7000304@verizon.net>
References: <50E12C26.4020100@employees.org> <50E1C106.7000304@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <007201cde777$a93b4250$fbb1c6f0$@centurytel.net>

Hi Cliff, In ARGO V1 build 142 in the setup drop down the first selection
is   Select Sound Card. When I click on that it shows all of the sound cards
on the computer available. I select the one that is hooked up to the rig
(actually RigBlaster DUO) and go from there. GL es 73, Mike

PS I still do not have ARGO working yet. Audio is good but calibration
has whipped me for three weeks now. 8>)

Happy New Year
Mike Sanders
      K0AZ


-----Original Message-----
From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Stan, W1LE
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 10:45 AM
To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] ok I give up

Hello Cliff,

ARGO works for me.

1. What version of ARGO are you using ?
www. weaksignals.com    may have a newer version.

2. Are all of your sound cards successfully installed with drivers for your
OS ?

I am currently using WIN7 64 bit with ARGO and a ESI-MAYA44-XTE PCIe
soundcard.

Stan, W1LE    Cape Cod   FN41sr



On 12/31/2012 1:09 AM, Cliff Sojourner wrote:
> OK - I give up - my shack PC has 3 sound cards.  how can I get ARGO
> (Argovation!) to use one of the three instead of the mic port?!?!?
>
> I hit the menu Setup -> select input -> choose real time input but it 
> doesn't change anything.
>
> is there a better program that actually works?
>
> thanks
> Cliff  K6CLS   CM87

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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 31 11:59:33 2012
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:59:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Lowfer] ok I give up
In-Reply-To: <50E12C26.4020100@employees.org>
Message-ID: <1356973173.26203.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Cliff:  As Dex pointed out; ARGO is " as simple as it gets "
but note..... All except the newest version of ARGO will by
DEFAULT choose the systems " default " Sound/Audio - INPUT
as its source for input audio to ARGO.. You do the choosing
of mic, line, stereo mix, etc to feed audio to ARGO..
The latest version of ARGO which is setup to run as a grabber
if you like, will allow you to choose the input audio from 
the source you want... 

Andy - KU4XR

--- On Mon, 12/31/12, Cliff Sojourner <cls at employees.org> wrote:

> OK - I give up - my shack PC has 3
> sound cards.? how can I get ARGO (Argovation!) to use
> one of the three instead of the mic port?!?!?
> 
> I hit the menu Setup -> select input -> choose real
> time input but it doesn't change anything.
> 
> is there a better program that actually works?
> 
> thanks
> Cliff? K6CLS???CM87


From stanw1le at verizon.net  Mon Dec 31 12:11:10 2012
From: stanw1le at verizon.net (Stan, W1LE)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:11:10 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ok I give up
In-Reply-To: <007201cde777$a93b4250$fbb1c6f0$@centurytel.net>
References: <50E12C26.4020100@employees.org> <50E1C106.7000304@verizon.net>
	<007201cde777$a93b4250$fbb1c6f0$@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <50E1C72E.8010906@verizon.net>

Hello Mike,

To calibrate I first had to figure out the BFO offset in the CW mode.

For my IC-703+ I have a 800Hz BFO (offset) and I had to use CW/R (reverse)
to get all to track correctly.

Other transceivers have different BFO offsets, my FT1000MO uses 600 Hz.
Most modern transceivers allow a menu to change to the BFO offset.

So, if I externally inject a clean tone into the RX at 137.800 KHz and 
tune the RX to 137.800KHz,
  I will hear it in ARGO at 800 Hz,+/- my calibration which is a couple 
of Hz.
I then calibrate ARGO to get exactly 800.00 Hz displayed.

A standard feature of the IC-703+ is the high stability xtal reference,
so my drift in time is negligible.
Other transceivers may need their high stability reference option installed.

Stan, W1LE   Cape Cod   FN41sr



On 12/31/2012 11:55 AM, Mike Sanders wrote:
> Hi Cliff, In ARGO V1 build 142 in the setup drop down the first selection
> is   Select Sound Card. When I click on that it shows all of the sound cards
> on the computer available. I select the one that is hooked up to the rig
> (actually RigBlaster DUO) and go from there. GL es 73, Mike
>
> PS I still do not have ARGO working yet. Audio is good but calibration
> has whipped me for three weeks now. 8>)
>
> Happy New Year
> Mike Sanders
>        K0AZ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of Stan, W1LE
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 10:45 AM
> To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] ok I give up
>
> Hello Cliff,
>
> ARGO works for me.
>
> 1. What version of ARGO are you using ?
> www. weaksignals.com    may have a newer version.
>
> 2. Are all of your sound cards successfully installed with drivers for your
> OS ?
>
> I am currently using WIN7 64 bit with ARGO and a ESI-MAYA44-XTE PCIe
> soundcard.
>
> Stan, W1LE    Cape Cod   FN41sr
>
>
>
> On 12/31/2012 1:09 AM, Cliff Sojourner wrote:
>> OK - I give up - my shack PC has 3 sound cards.  how can I get ARGO
>> (Argovation!) to use one of the three instead of the mic port?!?!?
>>
>> I hit the menu Setup -> select input -> choose real time input but it
>> doesn't change anything.
>>
>> is there a better program that actually works?
>>
>> thanks
>> Cliff  K6CLS   CM87
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From cvest at cox.net  Mon Dec 31 13:02:36 2012
From: cvest at cox.net (W5COV)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:02:36 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ok I give up (ARGO & CALIBRATION )
In-Reply-To: <007201cde777$a93b4250$fbb1c6f0$@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <20121231130236.NDGIJ.659444.imail@eastrmwml114>

John A. , W1TAG , has a nice write up on calibrating ARGO , including the sound card . It might be what you need to get your calibration spot on Mike . Anyway it is a good read and even a good refresher read for those of us that have been using ARGO for years .

Here is the link to his very well prepared article :

http://www.lwca.org/library/articles/w1tag/R75cal.htm

He wrote it for an R-75 but the same principles apply to all other receivers .

Good Luck and don't be afraid to ask the group for help if you get stuck . We all were new users of ARGO and Spectrum Lab at one time :)

HAPPY NEW YEAR !!

Charlie , W5COV


---- Mike Sanders <k0az at centurytel.net> wrote: 
> Hi Cliff, In ARGO V1 build 142 in the setup drop down the first selection
> is   Select Sound Card. When I click on that it shows all of the sound cards
> on the computer available. I select the one that is hooked up to the rig
> (actually RigBlaster DUO) and go from there. GL es 73, Mike
> 
> PS I still do not have ARGO working yet. Audio is good but calibration
> has whipped me for three weeks now. 8>)
> 
> Happy New Year
> Mike Sanders
>       K0AZ
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of Stan, W1LE
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 10:45 AM
> To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] ok I give up
> 
> Hello Cliff,
> 
> ARGO works for me.
> 
> 1. What version of ARGO are you using ?
> www. weaksignals.com    may have a newer version.
> 
> 2. Are all of your sound cards successfully installed with drivers for your
> OS ?
> 
> I am currently using WIN7 64 bit with ARGO and a ESI-MAYA44-XTE PCIe
> soundcard.
> 
> Stan, W1LE    Cape Cod   FN41sr
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/31/2012 1:09 AM, Cliff Sojourner wrote:
> > OK - I give up - my shack PC has 3 sound cards.  how can I get ARGO
> > (Argovation!) to use one of the three instead of the mic port?!?!?
> >
> > I hit the menu Setup -> select input -> choose real time input but it 
> > doesn't change anything.
> >
> > is there a better program that actually works?
> >
> > thanks
> > Cliff  K6CLS   CM87
> 
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From mbdittmar at comcast.net  Mon Dec 31 13:09:50 2012
From: mbdittmar at comcast.net (Mark)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:09:50 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] ok I give up
References: <50E12C26.4020100@employees.org>
	<50E1C106.7000304@verizon.net><007201cde777$a93b4250$fbb1c6f0$@centurytel.net>
	<50E1C72E.8010906@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <177301cde782$070cb350$6601a8c0@Scooter>

Mike,

It took me a while to figure out a calibration scheme that worked.  I use a 
converter ahead of my Icom and the converter's crystal introduces additional 
offsets which were confounding me.  Here is what I do:

1) let everything warm up a few hours
2) Tune the receiver to 59 khz USB to receive WWVB in Ft. Collins.  They are 
super strong here in Denver so its a convenient frequency reference for me.
3) In the ARGO calibration menu Set offset to 0 and the other two both to 
1000 hertz.  You won't change these numbers.
4) Measure the frequency from WWVB as accurately as you can from the ARGO 
screen.  Usually NDB mode is good enough, but for more accuracy you can do 
it in QRS3 or QRS10.  With my setup I measure 553 hertz tone.
5) Lets say you want to receive the 2200 meter watering hole.  Set your 
receiver dial to 137 khz USB.
6) 1000 hz away from 137 khz is 138 khz, 138000 hz.  Subtract 553 hertz from 
this number to get 137447 hertz.  Put this number in the offset in the 
calibration menu.  The other two numbers keep at 1000 hz.
7) Now you are setup !  I usually just set AGC on in ARGO and leave 
sensitivity and contrast both at 50%.  I disable AGC in my receiver.  I 
adjust audio input level in ARGO to about 50% or so of full scale ( scale is 
on extreme left hand side of screen ).  Move sliders on right hand side of 
screen to set your frequency range.  Set mode to whatever ( QRS 30, etc. )
8) This works for me everytime and is pretty simple method. Of course, your 
mileage may vary.

73 and good luck
Mark AB0CW , MBD





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stan, W1LE" <stanw1le at verizon.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] ok I give up


> Hello Mike,
>
> To calibrate I first had to figure out the BFO offset in the CW mode.
>
> For my IC-703+ I have a 800Hz BFO (offset) and I had to use CW/R (reverse)
> to get all to track correctly.
>
> Other transceivers have different BFO offsets, my FT1000MO uses 600 Hz.
> Most modern transceivers allow a menu to change to the BFO offset.
>
> So, if I externally inject a clean tone into the RX at 137.800 KHz and 
> tune the RX to 137.800KHz,
>  I will hear it in ARGO at 800 Hz,+/- my calibration which is a couple of 
> Hz.
> I then calibrate ARGO to get exactly 800.00 Hz displayed.
>
> A standard feature of the IC-703+ is the high stability xtal reference,
> so my drift in time is negligible.
> Other transceivers may need their high stability reference option 
> installed.
>
> Stan, W1LE   Cape Cod   FN41sr
>
>
>
> On 12/31/2012 11:55 AM, Mike Sanders wrote:
>> Hi Cliff, In ARGO V1 build 142 in the setup drop down the first selection
>> is   Select Sound Card. When I click on that it shows all of the sound 
>> cards
>> on the computer available. I select the one that is hooked up to the rig
>> (actually RigBlaster DUO) and go from there. GL es 73, Mike
>>
>> PS I still do not have ARGO working yet. Audio is good but calibration
>> has whipped me for three weeks now. 8>)
>>
>> Happy New Year
>> Mike Sanders
>>        K0AZ
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>> [mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
>> On Behalf Of Stan, W1LE
>> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 10:45 AM
>> To: Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands
>> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] ok I give up
>>
>> Hello Cliff,
>>
>> ARGO works for me.
>>
>> 1. What version of ARGO are you using ?
>> www. weaksignals.com    may have a newer version.
>>
>> 2. Are all of your sound cards successfully installed with drivers for 
>> your
>> OS ?
>>
>> I am currently using WIN7 64 bit with ARGO and a ESI-MAYA44-XTE PCIe
>> soundcard.
>>
>> Stan, W1LE    Cape Cod   FN41sr
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/31/2012 1:09 AM, Cliff Sojourner wrote:
>>> OK - I give up - my shack PC has 3 sound cards.  how can I get ARGO
>>> (Argovation!) to use one of the three instead of the mic port?!?!?
>>>
>>> I hit the menu Setup -> select input -> choose real time input but it
>>> doesn't change anything.
>>>
>>> is there a better program that actually works?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> Cliff  K6CLS   CM87
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From n0nas at amsat.org  Mon Dec 31 13:24:43 2012
From: n0nas at amsat.org (Douglas H Reed)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:24:43 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Reminder- Attachmnt+message size limit 50KB
Message-ID: <CAL+RLOQMHYHRCC1+Pu9c9-Z5LLrs0CXs5cQ3Aw5qcYdx9g=uvg@mail.gmail.com>

Just another reminder that QSL.net limits the total message size to
50KB, including any attachments. Several people had messages bounce
last night because of the limit and a couple of them were right around
56KB and I'll bet they are a little confused about what happened.

The essential problem is that email is a 7-bit ASCII format while
image file attachments are 8-bit binary. Your email program will
automatically convert binary files into a special format using just
ASCII text characters, but when this happens, the file size grows by
about 12%. Essentially, the email program takes every 7 extra bits and
stuffs them into an extra ASCII character in the text. I expect the
problem is even worse if your email program is sending HTML text or
using UTF-8 or other international character formats. Those formats
are all larger than plain ASCII text.

If you want to attach a file to your email, I recommend you try to
edit it down to 40KB or less before you attach it. I also recommend
you ALWAYS choose "plain text" format when composing any email to the
QSL.net remailers. Many email programs have a configuration option
that can be set for each destination address that says what email
format to use for that destination.

Have a Happy New Year!

73, Doug Reed, N0NAS.
LOWFER volunteer list admin.

From k0az at centurytel.net  Mon Dec 31 13:58:08 2012
From: k0az at centurytel.net (Mike Sanders)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:58:08 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] ARGO
Message-ID: <008201cde788$c793e7a0$56bbb6e0$@centurytel.net>

Stan, Charlie and Mark, Thanks very much for all your input.
I am going to continue to follow through with this until I get it.
Your help may make the difference.
I am also using a converter and it is introducing minus 302 hz
of aggravation from the LO. My first lowfer target is WMS only
about 170 miles South of me. 
I have not looked through all your email info yet but will as well
as checking out John's write up on ARGO set up. 
Thanks again and you will know when I get a good capture.  73

Happy New Year
Mike Sanders
      K0AZ




From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 14:43:06 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:43:06 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ARGO
In-Reply-To: <008201cde788$c793e7a0$56bbb6e0$@centurytel.net>
References: <008201cde788$c793e7a0$56bbb6e0$@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7Zs0cbpRtjm-O_5qwBSebJVyo06=HBYza32uZzBY9hpzQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Mike. My method for calibrating ARGO is very simple, and does not
require any extra equipment. As someone else pointed out, first you have to
know the BFO sidetone of your receiver. Most modern receivers allow you to
vary this sidetone through some sort of menu. I happen to like to hear a
700Hz tone when listening to CW, so that's what I keep mine at. I tune to
60 kHz WWBV with the receiver set to CW mode (reverse CW for Icom
receivers), and allow the receiver to warm up for an hour. If you are using
an upconverter, then simply tune to the converter's LO frequency + 60 kHz,
so in my case that would be 3.060 MHz. At this point I would set Argo to
some relatively fast QRSS speed such as QRSS10, and center 700Hz on the
right side scale. You may have to reduce the receiver's audio gain and
lower Argo's sensitivity slider quite a bit because WWVB is very strong in
the lower 48. If your total system calibration is within 20Hz or so of
being correct, you should see a bold, thick line start scrolling across the
screen, with thinner lines (sidebands, I guess) above and below it. What
you want to do is go into Argo's setup menu and choose Calibration. If you
see the bold line at, say 705Hz then you would enter 700 (if that's the
sidetone you are using) in the Measured frequency box and 705 in the
Displayed frequency box. That should get you within one Hz of being dead
on. You can dial it in even more at the slower QRSS speeds by using decimal
places in the numbers you put in the Displayed frequency box.

What you are doing is calibrating the total receive system (receiver,
upconverter, computer sound card) to be correct on the Argo screen. Of
course, the job is easier if the oscillators in your receiver and
upconverter are close to the frequency they should be. If you are using an
upconverter with one of those little 4 MHz crystals about the size of a
child's fingernail, good luck. ;-)

At this point, many people go a step further because they like to have
Argo's frequency scale (the one on the right) display the actual frequency
(in Hz) that they have the receiver tuned to. This can be accomplished by
using the Offset box in the Calibration window and typing in the frequency
you have the receiver tuned to, minus your BFO frequency, if I remember
correctly. I'm usually too lazy to do this, so my screen captures tend to
 just have the BFO sidetone frequency.

Well, that was a lot of typing to describe something that generally only
takes about five minutes to do, once the receiver is warmed up. ;-)

73, Doug KB4OER

On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Mike Sanders <k0az at centurytel.net> wrote:

> Stan, Charlie and Mark, Thanks very much for all your input.
> I am going to continue to follow through with this until I get it.
> Your help may make the difference.
> I am also using a converter and it is introducing minus 302 hz
> of aggravation from the LO. My first lowfer target is WMS only
> about 170 miles South of me.
> I have not looked through all your email info yet but will as well
> as checking out John's write up on ARGO set up.
> Thanks again and you will know when I get a good capture.  73
>
> Happy New Year
> Mike Sanders
>       K0AZ
>
>
>
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 31 14:43:21 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:43:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] QRSS60...
Message-ID: <BLU162-W279F2E3A73C1FA1AADC913AC3C0@phx.gbl>





WE2XEB on 137.786 with QRSS60 mode-any reports appreciated-Bob 		 	   		  

From rjraide at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 31 15:08:15 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:08:15 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] QRSS60
Message-ID: <BLU162-W4090DC127272B0B0F81A86AC3C0@phx.gbl>





Was on wrong freq moving to 137.776-Bob 		 	   		  

From cls at employees.org  Mon Dec 31 15:16:32 2012
From: cls at employees.org (Cliff Sojourner)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:16:32 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] ok I give up
In-Reply-To: <50E1C106.7000304@verizon.net>
References: <50E12C26.4020100@employees.org> <50E1C106.7000304@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <50E1F2A0.303@employees.org>

hi,

On 2012-12-31 08:44, Stan, W1LE wrote:
> Hello Cliff,
>
> ARGO works for me.
>
> 1. What version of ARGO are you using ?
> www. weaksignals.com    may have a newer version.

thanks for the link, got Argo v143 from there, and that did it.

I was running v134 which did not have the soundcard selector and just 
went to windows default.

>
> 2. Are all of your sound cards successfully installed with drivers for 
> your OS ?
>
> I am currently using WIN7 64 bit with ARGO and a ESI-MAYA44-XTE PCIe 
> soundcard.

this machine (also win7-64) has 4 different sound cards, I am evaluating 
them for digimodes.

my station is a 1 meter loop (about 35 winds which I think must be too 
much for 137, 187, 474, 518 kHz) in to a Palomar Engineers VLF converter 
(10-500kHz transverted to 4MHz), in to a Yaesu FT-847, thence to a 
Diamond Sound Tube (USB)

really not expecting much, the Charming Cottage here is surrounded by 
trees and buildings, seems to be an HF black hole, and too noisy for 
much VHF or UHF.

Cliff K6CLS  Palo Alto, CA

>
> Stan, W1LE    Cape Cod   FN41sr
>
>
>
> On 12/31/2012 1:09 AM, Cliff Sojourner wrote:
>> OK - I give up - my shack PC has 3 sound cards.  how can I get ARGO 
>> (Argovation!) to use one of the three instead of the mic port?!?!?
>>
>> I hit the menu Setup -> select input -> choose real time input but it 
>> doesn't change anything.
>>
>> is there a better program that actually works?
>>
>> thanks
>> Cliff  K6CLS   CM87
>
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 15:18:08 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:18:08 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] QRSS60
In-Reply-To: <BLU162-W4090DC127272B0B0F81A86AC3C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W4090DC127272B0B0F81A86AC3C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7ZBs_-d7k-Gb19egMqtM+b=vVH_3L4KtoG4srqYuDC3vA@mail.gmail.com>

Dogboning here in east TN Bob. This is on .786. Drift is my receiver
warming up. Didn't have it on.

73, Doug KB4OER

On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Bob Raide <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>
>
> Was on wrong freq moving to 137.776-Bob
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 15:18:43 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:18:43 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] QRSS60
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7ZBs_-d7k-Gb19egMqtM+b=vVH_3L4KtoG4srqYuDC3vA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU162-W4090DC127272B0B0F81A86AC3C0@phx.gbl>
	<CABP+t7ZBs_-d7k-Gb19egMqtM+b=vVH_3L4KtoG4srqYuDC3vA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7YTWbSj8kY+5BdPAKowo7XQMfHtELrKvJ-DCxZ9ceROcQ@mail.gmail.com>

And, of course, the file now. :-)

On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com>wrote:

> Dogboning here in east TN Bob. This is on .786. Drift is my receiver
> warming up. Didn't have it on.
>
> 73, Doug KB4OER
>
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Bob Raide <rjraide at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Was on wrong freq moving to 137.776-Bob
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From rjraide at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 31 15:35:36 2012
From: rjraide at hotmail.com (Bob Raide)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:35:36 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Moved to correct freq-137.776
Message-ID: <BLU162-W32D123D19622F0D2E64C2BAC3C0@phx.gbl>





 on too high out of window freq now OK at 137.776 		 	   		  

From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec 31 15:50:30 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:50:30 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] QRSS60
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7YTWbSj8kY+5BdPAKowo7XQMfHtELrKvJ-DCxZ9ceROcQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU162-W4090DC127272B0B0F81A86AC3C0@phx.gbl>
	<CABP+t7ZBs_-d7k-Gb19egMqtM+b=vVH_3L4KtoG4srqYuDC3vA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABP+t7YTWbSj8kY+5BdPAKowo7XQMfHtELrKvJ-DCxZ9ceROcQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP24392F6086CC4DF2E11920E93C0@phx.gbl>

Doug:
Just finished ( standing in the snow ) adding a second loop in parallel with the old one.
Current has increased from 14 to 17.5 amps so something must be working .
If you're still around 137 could you check it out ?
Thanks

Mitch
On 2012-12-31, at 3:18 PM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:

> And, of course, the file now. :-)
> 


From w1tag at charter.net  Mon Dec 31 15:50:00 2012
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:50:00 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ARGO
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7Zs0cbpRtjm-O_5qwBSebJVyo06=HBYza32uZzBY9hpzQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <008201cde788$c793e7a0$56bbb6e0$@centurytel.net>
	<CABP+t7Zs0cbpRtjm-O_5qwBSebJVyo06=HBYza32uZzBY9hpzQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <815067F3-AA55-4EC0-AC57-CD81E2EDFE76@charter.net>

Doug,

Just to split a couple of hairs:

You need a known audio frequency to calibrate the sound card sampling rate. An audio tone from a receiver that depends on a converter L.O., and one or more conversion oscillators (and maybe the BFO) doesn't qualify. 

The combination of the converter and receiver likely has a frequency offset that varies with receiver tuning. Calibration of that offset at 60 kHz may be in error at other frequencies. 

The above applies to fussy situations like WOLF and slow PSK modes, where sampling rate must be nailed to keep framing consistent, and receiver offsets nulled out.  For QRSS use, you'll likely see cal errors between bands, and they MAY be small enough to ignore. 

John, W1TAG



On Dec 31, 2012, at 2:43 PM, "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mike. My method for calibrating ARGO is very simple, and does not
> require any extra equipment. As someone else pointed out, first you have to
> know the BFO sidetone of your receiver. Most modern receivers allow you to
> vary this sidetone through some sort of menu. I happen to like to hear a
> 700Hz tone when listening to CW, so that's what I keep mine at. I tune to
> 60 kHz WWBV with the receiver set to CW mode (reverse CW for Icom
> receivers), and allow the receiver to warm up for an hour. If you are using
> an upconverter, then simply tune to the converter's LO frequency + 60 kHz,
> so in my case that would be 3.060 MHz. At this point I would set Argo to
> some relatively fast QRSS speed such as QRSS10, and center 700Hz on the
> right side scale. You may have to reduce the receiver's audio gain and
> lower Argo's sensitivity slider quite a bit because WWVB is very strong in
> the lower 48. If your total system calibration is within 20Hz or so of
> being correct, you should see a bold, thick line start scrolling across the
> screen, with thinner lines (sidebands, I guess) above and below it. What
> you want to do is go into Argo's setup menu and choose Calibration. If you
> see the bold line at, say 705Hz then you would enter 700 (if that's the
> sidetone you are using) in the Measured frequency box and 705 in the
> Displayed frequency box. That should get you within one Hz of being dead
> on. You can dial it in even more at the slower QRSS speeds by using decimal
> places in the numbers you put in the Displayed frequency box.
> 
> What you are doing is calibrating the total receive system (receiver,
> upconverter, computer sound card) to be correct on the Argo screen. Of
> course, the job is easier if the oscillators in your receiver and
> upconverter are close to the frequency they should be. If you are using an
> upconverter with one of those little 4 MHz crystals about the size of a
> child's fingernail, good luck. ;-)
> 
> At this point, many people go a step further because they like to have
> Argo's frequency scale (the one on the right) display the actual frequency
> (in Hz) that they have the receiver tuned to. This can be accomplished by
> using the Offset box in the Calibration window and typing in the frequency
> you have the receiver tuned to, minus your BFO frequency, if I remember
> correctly. I'm usually too lazy to do this, so my screen captures tend to
> just have the BFO sidetone frequency.
> 
> Well, that was a lot of typing to describe something that generally only
> takes about five minutes to do, once the receiver is warmed up. ;-)
> 
> 73, Doug KB4OER
> 
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Mike Sanders <k0az at centurytel.net> wrote:
> 
>> Stan, Charlie and Mark, Thanks very much for all your input.
>> I am going to continue to follow through with this until I get it.
>> Your help may make the difference.
>> I am also using a converter and it is introducing minus 302 hz
>> of aggravation from the LO. My first lowfer target is WMS only
>> about 170 miles South of me.
>> I have not looked through all your email info yet but will as well
>> as checking out John's write up on ARGO set up.
>> Thanks again and you will know when I get a good capture.  73
>> 
>> Happy New Year
>> Mike Sanders
>>      K0AZ
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 15:53:35 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:53:35 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] QRSS60
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP24392F6086CC4DF2E11920E93C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU162-W4090DC127272B0B0F81A86AC3C0@phx.gbl>
	<CABP+t7ZBs_-d7k-Gb19egMqtM+b=vVH_3L4KtoG4srqYuDC3vA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABP+t7YTWbSj8kY+5BdPAKowo7XQMfHtELrKvJ-DCxZ9ceROcQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP24392F6086CC4DF2E11920E93C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7a866p00xyN+WRL6exSwymE_3uhv0_2Z5e7hUp30xUMoA@mail.gmail.com>

Sure thing. Will report back shortly.

On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>wrote:

> Doug:
> Just finished ( standing in the snow ) adding a second loop in parallel
> with the old one.
> Current has increased from 14 to 17.5 amps so something must be working .
> If you're still around 137 could you check it out ?
> Thanks
>
> Mitch
> On 2012-12-31, at 3:18 PM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
>
> > And, of course, the file now. :-)
> >
>
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 16:13:04 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:13:04 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ARGO
In-Reply-To: <815067F3-AA55-4EC0-AC57-CD81E2EDFE76@charter.net>
References: <008201cde788$c793e7a0$56bbb6e0$@centurytel.net>
	<CABP+t7Zs0cbpRtjm-O_5qwBSebJVyo06=HBYza32uZzBY9hpzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<815067F3-AA55-4EC0-AC57-CD81E2EDFE76@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7beDmsrEuH_unL0gZMfdZsz_s+TMOfK=rTkSL5WjATbJA@mail.gmail.com>

John,

I'm sure you are absolutely correct. The method I described is just a quick
and dirty method, not needing a frequency counter, known calibrated audio
tone source, or any other equipment whatsoever. It has worked well enough
for me for several years now that I know when (after I allow my receiver to
warm up) I tune to a certain frequency from 10-500 kHz to receive a QRSS or
WSPR signal I'm never more than half a Hz off. Looking at MP scrolling
across now.... it looks like, now that my receiver has warmed up (and
assuming MP is right on frequency), that I am one tenth of one Hz off in my
calibration. I can't remember when I last did an Argo calibration on this
receiver+upconverter....probably early October, when the listening season
started.

I rarely tune above 500 kHz, so I don't give much thought to frequency
calibration errors at HF or above.

73, Doug KB4OER



On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 3:50 PM, John Andrews <w1tag at charter.net> wrote:

> Doug,
>
> Just to split a couple of hairs:
>
> You need a known audio frequency to calibrate the sound card sampling
> rate. An audio tone from a receiver that depends on a converter L.O., and
> one or more conversion oscillators (and maybe the BFO) doesn't qualify.
>
> The combination of the converter and receiver likely has a frequency
> offset that varies with receiver tuning. Calibration of that offset at 60
> kHz may be in error at other frequencies.
>
> The above applies to fussy situations like WOLF and slow PSK modes, where
> sampling rate must be nailed to keep framing consistent, and receiver
> offsets nulled out.  For QRSS use, you'll likely see cal errors between
> bands, and they MAY be small enough to ignore.
>
> John, W1TAG
>
>
>
> On Dec 31, 2012, at 2:43 PM, "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Mike. My method for calibrating ARGO is very simple, and does not
> > require any extra equipment. As someone else pointed out, first you have
> to
> > know the BFO sidetone of your receiver. Most modern receivers allow you
> to
> > vary this sidetone through some sort of menu. I happen to like to hear a
> > 700Hz tone when listening to CW, so that's what I keep mine at. I tune to
> > 60 kHz WWBV with the receiver set to CW mode (reverse CW for Icom
> > receivers), and allow the receiver to warm up for an hour. If you are
> using
> > an upconverter, then simply tune to the converter's LO frequency + 60
> kHz,
> > so in my case that would be 3.060 MHz. At this point I would set Argo to
> > some relatively fast QRSS speed such as QRSS10, and center 700Hz on the
> > right side scale. You may have to reduce the receiver's audio gain and
> > lower Argo's sensitivity slider quite a bit because WWVB is very strong
> in
> > the lower 48. If your total system calibration is within 20Hz or so of
> > being correct, you should see a bold, thick line start scrolling across
> the
> > screen, with thinner lines (sidebands, I guess) above and below it. What
> > you want to do is go into Argo's setup menu and choose Calibration. If
> you
> > see the bold line at, say 705Hz then you would enter 700 (if that's the
> > sidetone you are using) in the Measured frequency box and 705 in the
> > Displayed frequency box. That should get you within one Hz of being dead
> > on. You can dial it in even more at the slower QRSS speeds by using
> decimal
> > places in the numbers you put in the Displayed frequency box.
> >
> > What you are doing is calibrating the total receive system (receiver,
> > upconverter, computer sound card) to be correct on the Argo screen. Of
> > course, the job is easier if the oscillators in your receiver and
> > upconverter are close to the frequency they should be. If you are using
> an
> > upconverter with one of those little 4 MHz crystals about the size of a
> > child's fingernail, good luck. ;-)
> >
> > At this point, many people go a step further because they like to have
> > Argo's frequency scale (the one on the right) display the actual
> frequency
> > (in Hz) that they have the receiver tuned to. This can be accomplished by
> > using the Offset box in the Calibration window and typing in the
> frequency
> > you have the receiver tuned to, minus your BFO frequency, if I remember
> > correctly. I'm usually too lazy to do this, so my screen captures tend to
> > just have the BFO sidetone frequency.
> >
> > Well, that was a lot of typing to describe something that generally only
> > takes about five minutes to do, once the receiver is warmed up. ;-)
> >
> > 73, Doug KB4OER
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Mike Sanders <k0az at centurytel.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Stan, Charlie and Mark, Thanks very much for all your input.
> >> I am going to continue to follow through with this until I get it.
> >> Your help may make the difference.
> >> I am also using a converter and it is introducing minus 302 hz
> >> of aggravation from the LO. My first lowfer target is WMS only
> >> about 170 miles South of me.
> >> I have not looked through all your email info yet but will as well
> >> as checking out John's write up on ARGO set up.
> >> Thanks again and you will know when I get a good capture.  73
> >>
> >> Happy New Year
> >> Mike Sanders
> >>      K0AZ
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ______________________________________________________________
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Mon Dec 31 16:19:16 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:19:16 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] QRSS60
References: <BLU162-W4090DC127272B0B0F81A86AC3C0@phx.gbl><CABP+t7ZBs_-d7k-Gb19egMqtM+b=vVH_3L4KtoG4srqYuDC3vA@mail.gmail.com><CABP+t7YTWbSj8kY+5BdPAKowo7XQMfHtELrKvJ-DCxZ9ceROcQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP24392F6086CC4DF2E11920E93C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <010801cde79c$7da4a8f0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Mitch

TX power?

Jay

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitch Powell" <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] QRSS60


> Doug:
> Just finished ( standing in the snow ) adding a second loop in parallel with the old one.
> Current has increased from 14 to 17.5 amps so something must be working .
> If you're still around 137 could you check it out ?
> Thanks
> 
> Mitch
> On 2012-12-31, at 3:18 PM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
> 
>> And, of course, the file now. :-)
>> 
> 
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 16:20:10 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:20:10 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ARGO
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7beDmsrEuH_unL0gZMfdZsz_s+TMOfK=rTkSL5WjATbJA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <008201cde788$c793e7a0$56bbb6e0$@centurytel.net>
	<CABP+t7Zs0cbpRtjm-O_5qwBSebJVyo06=HBYza32uZzBY9hpzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<815067F3-AA55-4EC0-AC57-CD81E2EDFE76@charter.net>
	<CABP+t7beDmsrEuH_unL0gZMfdZsz_s+TMOfK=rTkSL5WjATbJA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7asPvVycu5f0SE9e7RqwictwG4epdev=6_sQr=dZbKXXA@mail.gmail.com>

Nope, gonna have to eat some crow. That's not MP I'm seeing, so I may be
off more than I think. :-)

Still looking for MP.

73, Doug KB4OER




On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com>wrote:

> John,
>
> I'm sure you are absolutely correct. The method I described is just a
> quick and dirty method, not needing a frequency counter, known calibrated
> audio tone source, or any other equipment whatsoever. It has worked well
> enough for me for several years now that I know when (after I allow my
> receiver to warm up) I tune to a certain frequency from 10-500 kHz to
> receive a QRSS or WSPR signal I'm never more than half a Hz off. Looking at
> MP scrolling across now.... it looks like, now that my receiver has warmed
> up (and assuming MP is right on frequency), that I am one tenth of one Hz
> off in my calibration. I can't remember when I last did an Argo calibration
> on this receiver+upconverter....probably early October, when the listening
> season started.
>
> I rarely tune above 500 kHz, so I don't give much thought to frequency
> calibration errors at HF or above.
>
> 73, Doug KB4OER
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 3:50 PM, John Andrews <w1tag at charter.net> wrote:
>
>> Doug,
>>
>> Just to split a couple of hairs:
>>
>> You need a known audio frequency to calibrate the sound card sampling
>> rate. An audio tone from a receiver that depends on a converter L.O., and
>> one or more conversion oscillators (and maybe the BFO) doesn't qualify.
>>
>> The combination of the converter and receiver likely has a frequency
>> offset that varies with receiver tuning. Calibration of that offset at 60
>> kHz may be in error at other frequencies.
>>
>> The above applies to fussy situations like WOLF and slow PSK modes, where
>> sampling rate must be nailed to keep framing consistent, and receiver
>> offsets nulled out.  For QRSS use, you'll likely see cal errors between
>> bands, and they MAY be small enough to ignore.
>>
>> John, W1TAG
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 31, 2012, at 2:43 PM, "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Mike. My method for calibrating ARGO is very simple, and does not
>> > require any extra equipment. As someone else pointed out, first you
>> have to
>> > know the BFO sidetone of your receiver. Most modern receivers allow you
>> to
>> > vary this sidetone through some sort of menu. I happen to like to hear a
>> > 700Hz tone when listening to CW, so that's what I keep mine at. I tune
>> to
>> > 60 kHz WWBV with the receiver set to CW mode (reverse CW for Icom
>> > receivers), and allow the receiver to warm up for an hour. If you are
>> using
>> > an upconverter, then simply tune to the converter's LO frequency + 60
>> kHz,
>> > so in my case that would be 3.060 MHz. At this point I would set Argo to
>> > some relatively fast QRSS speed such as QRSS10, and center 700Hz on the
>> > right side scale. You may have to reduce the receiver's audio gain and
>> > lower Argo's sensitivity slider quite a bit because WWVB is very strong
>> in
>> > the lower 48. If your total system calibration is within 20Hz or so of
>> > being correct, you should see a bold, thick line start scrolling across
>> the
>> > screen, with thinner lines (sidebands, I guess) above and below it. What
>> > you want to do is go into Argo's setup menu and choose Calibration. If
>> you
>> > see the bold line at, say 705Hz then you would enter 700 (if that's the
>> > sidetone you are using) in the Measured frequency box and 705 in the
>> > Displayed frequency box. That should get you within one Hz of being dead
>> > on. You can dial it in even more at the slower QRSS speeds by using
>> decimal
>> > places in the numbers you put in the Displayed frequency box.
>> >
>> > What you are doing is calibrating the total receive system (receiver,
>> > upconverter, computer sound card) to be correct on the Argo screen. Of
>> > course, the job is easier if the oscillators in your receiver and
>> > upconverter are close to the frequency they should be. If you are using
>> an
>> > upconverter with one of those little 4 MHz crystals about the size of a
>> > child's fingernail, good luck. ;-)
>> >
>> > At this point, many people go a step further because they like to have
>> > Argo's frequency scale (the one on the right) display the actual
>> frequency
>> > (in Hz) that they have the receiver tuned to. This can be accomplished
>> by
>> > using the Offset box in the Calibration window and typing in the
>> frequency
>> > you have the receiver tuned to, minus your BFO frequency, if I remember
>> > correctly. I'm usually too lazy to do this, so my screen captures tend
>> to
>> > just have the BFO sidetone frequency.
>> >
>> > Well, that was a lot of typing to describe something that generally only
>> > takes about five minutes to do, once the receiver is warmed up. ;-)
>> >
>> > 73, Doug KB4OER
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Mike Sanders <k0az at centurytel.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Stan, Charlie and Mark, Thanks very much for all your input.
>> >> I am going to continue to follow through with this until I get it.
>> >> Your help may make the difference.
>> >> I am also using a converter and it is introducing minus 302 hz
>> >> of aggravation from the LO. My first lowfer target is WMS only
>> >> about 170 miles South of me.
>> >> I have not looked through all your email info yet but will as well
>> >> as checking out John's write up on ARGO set up.
>> >> Thanks again and you will know when I get a good capture.  73
>> >>
>> >> Happy New Year
>> >> Mike Sanders
>> >>      K0AZ
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ______________________________________________________________
>> >> Lowfer mailing list
>> >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> >> Post: mailto:Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>> >>
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>> > ______________________________________________________________
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>
>

From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec 31 16:26:52 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:26:52 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] QRSS60
In-Reply-To: <010801cde79c$7da4a8f0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <BLU162-W4090DC127272B0B0F81A86AC3C0@phx.gbl><CABP+t7ZBs_-d7k-Gb19egMqtM+b=vVH_3L4KtoG4srqYuDC3vA@mail.gmail.com><CABP+t7YTWbSj8kY+5BdPAKowo7XQMfHtELrKvJ-DCxZ9ceROcQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP24392F6086CC4DF2E11920E93C0@phx.gbl>
	<010801cde79c$7da4a8f0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP76033D752DC010C7D5E32FE93C0@phx.gbl>

Sorry - just outside again - creating a path to the tuner  :-)
Was running 200 watts when completed testing - 
When I connected the loops - added the four additional capacitors ! ! ! !
with the same dc input I was up in antenna current - as you would expect.

Now am ( at 4:20 in the afternoon EST ) running 250 watts - and antenna current is
at 19 amps - which is incredible !

Original loop 340 feet  - new parallel one is 240 feet.

Knocked the total inductance in half.

Mitch

On 2012-12-31, at 4:19 PM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> Mitch
> 
> TX power?
> 
> Jay
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch Powell" <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 3:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] QRSS60
> 
> 
>> Doug:
>> Just finished ( standing in the snow ) adding a second loop in parallel with the old one.
>> Current has increased from 14 to 17.5 amps so something must be working .
>> If you're still around 137 could you check it out ?
>> Thanks
>> Mitch
>> On 2012-12-31, at 3:18 PM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
>>> And, of course, the file now. :-)
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> Lowfer mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
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From jgibbs at telus.net  Mon Dec 31 16:27:27 2012
From: jgibbs at telus.net (John Gibbs)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:27:27 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] 137 last night
In-Reply-To: <50E193DC.9000306@gmail.com>
References: <50E193DC.9000306@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50E2033F.7000802@telus.net>

Thanks to Mark for posting the multi signal capture last night... yes 
that was  "T"  from VE7BDQ  (Thanks Andy).. got in on the fray a bit 
late... I was also making it to Laurence/KL1X and Jack/VA7JX grabbers..


73  John / VE7BDQ



From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 16:28:36 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:28:36 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ARGO
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7asPvVycu5f0SE9e7RqwictwG4epdev=6_sQr=dZbKXXA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <008201cde788$c793e7a0$56bbb6e0$@centurytel.net>
	<CABP+t7Zs0cbpRtjm-O_5qwBSebJVyo06=HBYza32uZzBY9hpzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<815067F3-AA55-4EC0-AC57-CD81E2EDFE76@charter.net>
	<CABP+t7beDmsrEuH_unL0gZMfdZsz_s+TMOfK=rTkSL5WjATbJA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABP+t7asPvVycu5f0SE9e7RqwictwG4epdev=6_sQr=dZbKXXA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7aFPDSPPXiasbPsU=0ouTrtk1Y3nMCA5xTJxw_TVOYy5g@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone have the exact transmit frequency for XNS at the moment?




On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com>wrote:

> Nope, gonna have to eat some crow. That's not MP I'm seeing, so I may be
> off more than I think. :-)
>
> Still looking for MP.
>
> 73, Doug KB4OER
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> I'm sure you are absolutely correct. The method I described is just a
>> quick and dirty method, not needing a frequency counter, known calibrated
>> audio tone source, or any other equipment whatsoever. It has worked well
>> enough for me for several years now that I know when (after I allow my
>> receiver to warm up) I tune to a certain frequency from 10-500 kHz to
>> receive a QRSS or WSPR signal I'm never more than half a Hz off. Looking at
>> MP scrolling across now.... it looks like, now that my receiver has warmed
>> up (and assuming MP is right on frequency), that I am one tenth of one Hz
>> off in my calibration. I can't remember when I last did an Argo calibration
>> on this receiver+upconverter....probably early October, when the listening
>> season started.
>>
>> I rarely tune above 500 kHz, so I don't give much thought to frequency
>> calibration errors at HF or above.
>>
>> 73, Doug KB4OER
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 3:50 PM, John Andrews <w1tag at charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Doug,
>>>
>>> Just to split a couple of hairs:
>>>
>>> You need a known audio frequency to calibrate the sound card sampling
>>> rate. An audio tone from a receiver that depends on a converter L.O., and
>>> one or more conversion oscillators (and maybe the BFO) doesn't qualify.
>>>
>>> The combination of the converter and receiver likely has a frequency
>>> offset that varies with receiver tuning. Calibration of that offset at 60
>>> kHz may be in error at other frequencies.
>>>
>>> The above applies to fussy situations like WOLF and slow PSK modes,
>>> where sampling rate must be nailed to keep framing consistent, and receiver
>>> offsets nulled out.  For QRSS use, you'll likely see cal errors between
>>> bands, and they MAY be small enough to ignore.
>>>
>>> John, W1TAG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 31, 2012, at 2:43 PM, "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi Mike. My method for calibrating ARGO is very simple, and does not
>>> > require any extra equipment. As someone else pointed out, first you
>>> have to
>>> > know the BFO sidetone of your receiver. Most modern receivers allow
>>> you to
>>> > vary this sidetone through some sort of menu. I happen to like to hear
>>> a
>>> > 700Hz tone when listening to CW, so that's what I keep mine at. I tune
>>> to
>>> > 60 kHz WWBV with the receiver set to CW mode (reverse CW for Icom
>>> > receivers), and allow the receiver to warm up for an hour. If you are
>>> using
>>> > an upconverter, then simply tune to the converter's LO frequency + 60
>>> kHz,
>>> > so in my case that would be 3.060 MHz. At this point I would set Argo
>>> to
>>> > some relatively fast QRSS speed such as QRSS10, and center 700Hz on the
>>> > right side scale. You may have to reduce the receiver's audio gain and
>>> > lower Argo's sensitivity slider quite a bit because WWVB is very
>>> strong in
>>> > the lower 48. If your total system calibration is within 20Hz or so of
>>> > being correct, you should see a bold, thick line start scrolling
>>> across the
>>> > screen, with thinner lines (sidebands, I guess) above and below it.
>>> What
>>> > you want to do is go into Argo's setup menu and choose Calibration. If
>>> you
>>> > see the bold line at, say 705Hz then you would enter 700 (if that's the
>>> > sidetone you are using) in the Measured frequency box and 705 in the
>>> > Displayed frequency box. That should get you within one Hz of being
>>> dead
>>> > on. You can dial it in even more at the slower QRSS speeds by using
>>> decimal
>>> > places in the numbers you put in the Displayed frequency box.
>>> >
>>> > What you are doing is calibrating the total receive system (receiver,
>>> > upconverter, computer sound card) to be correct on the Argo screen. Of
>>> > course, the job is easier if the oscillators in your receiver and
>>> > upconverter are close to the frequency they should be. If you are
>>> using an
>>> > upconverter with one of those little 4 MHz crystals about the size of a
>>> > child's fingernail, good luck. ;-)
>>> >
>>> > At this point, many people go a step further because they like to have
>>> > Argo's frequency scale (the one on the right) display the actual
>>> frequency
>>> > (in Hz) that they have the receiver tuned to. This can be accomplished
>>> by
>>> > using the Offset box in the Calibration window and typing in the
>>> frequency
>>> > you have the receiver tuned to, minus your BFO frequency, if I remember
>>> > correctly. I'm usually too lazy to do this, so my screen captures tend
>>> to
>>> > just have the BFO sidetone frequency.
>>> >
>>> > Well, that was a lot of typing to describe something that generally
>>> only
>>> > takes about five minutes to do, once the receiver is warmed up. ;-)
>>> >
>>> > 73, Doug KB4OER
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Mike Sanders <k0az at centurytel.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Stan, Charlie and Mark, Thanks very much for all your input.
>>> >> I am going to continue to follow through with this until I get it.
>>> >> Your help may make the difference.
>>> >> I am also using a converter and it is introducing minus 302 hz
>>> >> of aggravation from the LO. My first lowfer target is WMS only
>>> >> about 170 miles South of me.
>>> >> I have not looked through all your email info yet but will as well
>>> >> as checking out John's write up on ARGO set up.
>>> >> Thanks again and you will know when I get a good capture.  73
>>> >>
>>> >> Happy New Year
>>> >> Mike Sanders
>>> >>      K0AZ
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ______________________________________________________________
>>> >> Lowfer mailing list
>>> >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>>> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>> >> Post: mailto:Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>>> >>
>>> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>>> >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>>> > ______________________________________________________________
>>> > Lowfer mailing list
>>> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
>>> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>> > Post: mailto:Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>>> >
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>>
>>
>

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Mon Dec 31 16:32:47 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:32:47 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ARGO
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GPS referenced to137781.000

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp,UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] ARGO


> Anyone have the exact transmit frequency for XNS at the moment?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> Nope, gonna have to eat some crow. That's not MP I'm seeing, so I may be
>> off more than I think. :-)
>>
>> Still looking for MP.
>>
>> 73, Doug KB4OER
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> I'm sure you are absolutely correct. The method I described is just a
>>> quick and dirty method, not needing a frequency counter, known calibrated
>>> audio tone source, or any other equipment whatsoever. It has worked well
>>> enough for me for several years now that I know when (after I allow my
>>> receiver to warm up) I tune to a certain frequency from 10-500 kHz to
>>> receive a QRSS or WSPR signal I'm never more than half a Hz off. Looking at
>>> MP scrolling across now.... it looks like, now that my receiver has warmed
>>> up (and assuming MP is right on frequency), that I am one tenth of one Hz
>>> off in my calibration. I can't remember when I last did an Argo calibration
>>> on this receiver+upconverter....probably early October, when the listening
>>> season started.
>>>
>>> I rarely tune above 500 kHz, so I don't give much thought to frequency
>>> calibration errors at HF or above.
>>>
>>> 73, Doug KB4OER
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 3:50 PM, John Andrews <w1tag at charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Doug,
>>>>
>>>> Just to split a couple of hairs:
>>>>
>>>> You need a known audio frequency to calibrate the sound card sampling
>>>> rate. An audio tone from a receiver that depends on a converter L.O., and
>>>> one or more conversion oscillators (and maybe the BFO) doesn't qualify.
>>>>
>>>> The combination of the converter and receiver likely has a frequency
>>>> offset that varies with receiver tuning. Calibration of that offset at 60
>>>> kHz may be in error at other frequencies.
>>>>
>>>> The above applies to fussy situations like WOLF and slow PSK modes,
>>>> where sampling rate must be nailed to keep framing consistent, and receiver
>>>> offsets nulled out.  For QRSS use, you'll likely see cal errors between
>>>> bands, and they MAY be small enough to ignore.
>>>>
>>>> John, W1TAG
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 31, 2012, at 2:43 PM, "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hi Mike. My method for calibrating ARGO is very simple, and does not
>>>> > require any extra equipment. As someone else pointed out, first you
>>>> have to
>>>> > know the BFO sidetone of your receiver. Most modern receivers allow
>>>> you to
>>>> > vary this sidetone through some sort of menu. I happen to like to hear
>>>> a
>>>> > 700Hz tone when listening to CW, so that's what I keep mine at. I tune
>>>> to
>>>> > 60 kHz WWBV with the receiver set to CW mode (reverse CW for Icom
>>>> > receivers), and allow the receiver to warm up for an hour. If you are
>>>> using
>>>> > an upconverter, then simply tune to the converter's LO frequency + 60
>>>> kHz,
>>>> > so in my case that would be 3.060 MHz. At this point I would set Argo
>>>> to
>>>> > some relatively fast QRSS speed such as QRSS10, and center 700Hz on the
>>>> > right side scale. You may have to reduce the receiver's audio gain and
>>>> > lower Argo's sensitivity slider quite a bit because WWVB is very
>>>> strong in
>>>> > the lower 48. If your total system calibration is within 20Hz or so of
>>>> > being correct, you should see a bold, thick line start scrolling
>>>> across the
>>>> > screen, with thinner lines (sidebands, I guess) above and below it.
>>>> What
>>>> > you want to do is go into Argo's setup menu and choose Calibration. If
>>>> you
>>>> > see the bold line at, say 705Hz then you would enter 700 (if that's the
>>>> > sidetone you are using) in the Measured frequency box and 705 in the
>>>> > Displayed frequency box. That should get you within one Hz of being
>>>> dead
>>>> > on. You can dial it in even more at the slower QRSS speeds by using
>>>> decimal
>>>> > places in the numbers you put in the Displayed frequency box.
>>>> >
>>>> > What you are doing is calibrating the total receive system (receiver,
>>>> > upconverter, computer sound card) to be correct on the Argo screen. Of
>>>> > course, the job is easier if the oscillators in your receiver and
>>>> > upconverter are close to the frequency they should be. If you are
>>>> using an
>>>> > upconverter with one of those little 4 MHz crystals about the size of a
>>>> > child's fingernail, good luck. ;-)
>>>> >
>>>> > At this point, many people go a step further because they like to have
>>>> > Argo's frequency scale (the one on the right) display the actual
>>>> frequency
>>>> > (in Hz) that they have the receiver tuned to. This can be accomplished
>>>> by
>>>> > using the Offset box in the Calibration window and typing in the
>>>> frequency
>>>> > you have the receiver tuned to, minus your BFO frequency, if I remember
>>>> > correctly. I'm usually too lazy to do this, so my screen captures tend
>>>> to
>>>> > just have the BFO sidetone frequency.
>>>> >
>>>> > Well, that was a lot of typing to describe something that generally
>>>> only
>>>> > takes about five minutes to do, once the receiver is warmed up. ;-)
>>>> >
>>>> > 73, Doug KB4OER
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Mike Sanders <k0az at centurytel.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Stan, Charlie and Mark, Thanks very much for all your input.
>>>> >> I am going to continue to follow through with this until I get it.
>>>> >> Your help may make the difference.
>>>> >> I am also using a converter and it is introducing minus 302 hz
>>>> >> of aggravation from the LO. My first lowfer target is WMS only
>>>> >> about 170 miles South of me.
>>>> >> I have not looked through all your email info yet but will as well
>>>> >> as checking out John's write up on ARGO set up.
>>>> >> Thanks again and you will know when I get a good capture.  73
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Happy New Year
>>>> >> Mike Sanders
>>>> >>      K0AZ
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ______________________________________________________________
>>>> >> Lowfer mailing list
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>>>> >>
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>>>
>>>
>>
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From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 16:39:04 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:39:04 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ARGO
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	<815067F3-AA55-4EC0-AC57-CD81E2EDFE76@charter.net>
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	<CABP+t7asPvVycu5f0SE9e7RqwictwG4epdev=6_sQr=dZbKXXA@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks, Jay. Just took a screenshot. Receiver tuned to 137.781 so I'm one
tenth of one Hz off.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33457409/133781Hz.jpg

Still looking for MP in there though.....

That faint trace right below XNS must be MP.

Sorry, kinda combining two separate threads here. I don't multitask well.
:-)

73, Doug KB4OER




On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:32 PM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> GPS referenced to137781.000
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com
> >
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp,UK) and MedFer bands" <
> lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 4:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] ARGO
>
>
>
>  Anyone have the exact transmit frequency for XNS at the moment?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>>  Nope, gonna have to eat some crow. That's not MP I'm seeing, so I may be
>>> off more than I think. :-)
>>>
>>> Still looking for MP.
>>>
>>> 73, Doug KB4OER
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>>  John,
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure you are absolutely correct. The method I described is just a
>>>> quick and dirty method, not needing a frequency counter, known
>>>> calibrated
>>>> audio tone source, or any other equipment whatsoever. It has worked well
>>>> enough for me for several years now that I know when (after I allow my
>>>> receiver to warm up) I tune to a certain frequency from 10-500 kHz to
>>>> receive a QRSS or WSPR signal I'm never more than half a Hz off.
>>>> Looking at
>>>> MP scrolling across now.... it looks like, now that my receiver has
>>>> warmed
>>>> up (and assuming MP is right on frequency), that I am one tenth of one
>>>> Hz
>>>> off in my calibration. I can't remember when I last did an Argo
>>>> calibration
>>>> on this receiver+upconverter....**probably early October, when the
>>>> listening
>>>> season started.
>>>>
>>>> I rarely tune above 500 kHz, so I don't give much thought to frequency
>>>> calibration errors at HF or above.
>>>>
>>>> 73, Doug KB4OER
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 3:50 PM, John Andrews <w1tag at charter.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Doug,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to split a couple of hairs:
>>>>>
>>>>> You need a known audio frequency to calibrate the sound card sampling
>>>>> rate. An audio tone from a receiver that depends on a converter L.O.,
>>>>> and
>>>>> one or more conversion oscillators (and maybe the BFO) doesn't qualify.
>>>>>
>>>>> The combination of the converter and receiver likely has a frequency
>>>>> offset that varies with receiver tuning. Calibration of that offset at
>>>>> 60
>>>>> kHz may be in error at other frequencies.
>>>>>
>>>>> The above applies to fussy situations like WOLF and slow PSK modes,
>>>>> where sampling rate must be nailed to keep framing consistent, and
>>>>> receiver
>>>>> offsets nulled out.  For QRSS use, you'll likely see cal errors between
>>>>> bands, and they MAY be small enough to ignore.
>>>>>
>>>>> John, W1TAG
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 31, 2012, at 2:43 PM, "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Hi Mike. My method for calibrating ARGO is very simple, and does not
>>>>> > require any extra equipment. As someone else pointed out, first you
>>>>> have to
>>>>> > know the BFO sidetone of your receiver. Most modern receivers allow
>>>>> you to
>>>>> > vary this sidetone through some sort of menu. I happen to like to
>>>>> hear
>>>>> a
>>>>> > 700Hz tone when listening to CW, so that's what I keep mine at. I
>>>>> tune
>>>>> to
>>>>> > 60 kHz WWBV with the receiver set to CW mode (reverse CW for Icom
>>>>> > receivers), and allow the receiver to warm up for an hour. If you are
>>>>> using
>>>>> > an upconverter, then simply tune to the converter's LO frequency + 60
>>>>> kHz,
>>>>> > so in my case that would be 3.060 MHz. At this point I would set Argo
>>>>> to
>>>>> > some relatively fast QRSS speed such as QRSS10, and center 700Hz on
>>>>> the
>>>>> > right side scale. You may have to reduce the receiver's audio gain
>>>>> and
>>>>> > lower Argo's sensitivity slider quite a bit because WWVB is very
>>>>> strong in
>>>>> > the lower 48. If your total system calibration is within 20Hz or so
>>>>> of
>>>>> > being correct, you should see a bold, thick line start scrolling
>>>>> across the
>>>>> > screen, with thinner lines (sidebands, I guess) above and below it.
>>>>> What
>>>>> > you want to do is go into Argo's setup menu and choose Calibration.
>>>>> If
>>>>> you
>>>>> > see the bold line at, say 705Hz then you would enter 700 (if that's
>>>>> the
>>>>> > sidetone you are using) in the Measured frequency box and 705 in the
>>>>> > Displayed frequency box. That should get you within one Hz of being
>>>>> dead
>>>>> > on. You can dial it in even more at the slower QRSS speeds by using
>>>>> decimal
>>>>> > places in the numbers you put in the Displayed frequency box.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > What you are doing is calibrating the total receive system (receiver,
>>>>> > upconverter, computer sound card) to be correct on the Argo screen.
>>>>> Of
>>>>> > course, the job is easier if the oscillators in your receiver and
>>>>> > upconverter are close to the frequency they should be. If you are
>>>>> using an
>>>>> > upconverter with one of those little 4 MHz crystals about the size
>>>>> of a
>>>>> > child's fingernail, good luck. ;-)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > At this point, many people go a step further because they like to
>>>>> have
>>>>> > Argo's frequency scale (the one on the right) display the actual
>>>>> frequency
>>>>> > (in Hz) that they have the receiver tuned to. This can be
>>>>> accomplished
>>>>> by
>>>>> > using the Offset box in the Calibration window and typing in the
>>>>> frequency
>>>>> > you have the receiver tuned to, minus your BFO frequency, if I
>>>>> remember
>>>>> > correctly. I'm usually too lazy to do this, so my screen captures
>>>>> tend
>>>>> to
>>>>> > just have the BFO sidetone frequency.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Well, that was a lot of typing to describe something that generally
>>>>> only
>>>>> > takes about five minutes to do, once the receiver is warmed up. ;-)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 73, Doug KB4OER
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Mike Sanders <k0az at centurytel.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Stan, Charlie and Mark, Thanks very much for all your input.
>>>>> >> I am going to continue to follow through with this until I get it.
>>>>> >> Your help may make the difference.
>>>>> >> I am also using a converter and it is introducing minus 302 hz
>>>>> >> of aggravation from the LO. My first lowfer target is WMS only
>>>>> >> about 170 miles South of me.
>>>>> >> I have not looked through all your email info yet but will as well
>>>>> >> as checking out John's write up on ARGO set up.
>>>>> >> Thanks again and you will know when I get a good capture.  73
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Happy New Year
>>>>> >> Mike Sanders
>>>>> >>      K0AZ
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> ______________________________**______________________________**__
>>>>> >> Lowfer mailing list
>>>>> >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/lowfer<http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer>
>>>>> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htm<http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm>
>>>>> >> Post: mailto:Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>>>>> >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>>>>> > ______________________________**______________________________**__
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>>>>> > Post: mailto:Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>>>>> >
>>>>> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
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>>>>> Post: mailto:Lowfer at mailman.qth.net
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec 31 16:40:09 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:40:09 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ARGO
In-Reply-To: <011701cde79e$60a72c30$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <008201cde788$c793e7a0$56bbb6e0$@centurytel.net><CABP+t7Zs0cbpRtjm-O_5qwBSebJVyo06=HBYza32uZzBY9hpzQ@mail.gmail.com><815067F3-AA55-4EC0-AC57-CD81E2EDFE76@charter.net><CABP+t7beDmsrEuH_unL0gZMfdZsz_s+TMOfK=rTkSL5WjATbJA@mail.gmail.com><CABP+t7asPvVycu5f0SE9e7RqwictwG4epdev=6_sQr=dZbKXXA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABP+t7aFPDSPPXiasbPsU=0ouTrtk1Y3nMCA5xTJxw_TVOYy5g@mail.gmail.com>
	<011701cde79e$60a72c30$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
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Have I drifted that high ?
137781 ?
MP
On 2012-12-31, at 4:32 PM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> GPS referenced to137781.000
> 


From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 16:43:24 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:43:24 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ARGO
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP332F740D06D39F05D8A0FCE93C0@phx.gbl>
References: <008201cde788$c793e7a0$56bbb6e0$@centurytel.net>
	<CABP+t7Zs0cbpRtjm-O_5qwBSebJVyo06=HBYza32uZzBY9hpzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<815067F3-AA55-4EC0-AC57-CD81E2EDFE76@charter.net>
	<CABP+t7beDmsrEuH_unL0gZMfdZsz_s+TMOfK=rTkSL5WjATbJA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABP+t7asPvVycu5f0SE9e7RqwictwG4epdev=6_sQr=dZbKXXA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABP+t7aFPDSPPXiasbPsU=0ouTrtk1Y3nMCA5xTJxw_TVOYy5g@mail.gmail.com>
	<011701cde79e$60a72c30$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<BLU0-SMTP332F740D06D39F05D8A0FCE93C0@phx.gbl>
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LWCA web listing has MP listed at 137.7806, which would put you four tenths
of one Hz below XNS. No I haven't started drinking yet. ;-)

73, Doug KB4OER


On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>wrote:

> Have I drifted that high ?
> 137781 ?
> MP
> On 2012-12-31, at 4:32 PM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > GPS referenced to137781.000
> >
>
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From wg2xka at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 16:45:12 2012
From: wg2xka at gmail.com (John Molnar)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 21:45:12 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Part 5 FCC Application
In-Reply-To: <50E0C89B.2020602@verizon.net>
References: <50E0C89B.2020602@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAN-YY51MMx1NCqxSk__KX6SQOLRTafygE7biH+qL=k=F5mw16Q@mail.gmail.com>

John WA3ETD / WG2XKA Part 5 here - any problems, please ask!  There is a
very tricky part in the application where you have to back and forth
between pages, very easy to mess up!  I was directly advised by a great guy
at FCC-OET regarding the pitfall!  GL, it's worth it!  Seriously, any
questions ...

John WG2XKA
WG2XKA at gmail.com, QRZ, etc.

On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Stan, W1LE <stanw1le at verizon.net> wrote:

> Hello The Net:
>
> I am pondering a FCC (online) form 422 application.
>
> Do folks use their Amateur Radio FRN or do they get another one ?
>
> When they ask for emission designations I am stumped.
> for emission: XYZ,
> X = A to X,
> Y = 0-9 , x
>  Z=A-F, N, W, X
> The FCC also asks for modulating signal and necessary bandwidth.
>
> So, what emission types have others requested ?
> for WSPR, WSJT different modes, ROS, WOLF, OPERA, Digital Voice,
> DFCW, QRSS/CW, and graphicals, etc.
>
> Thanks   Stan, W1LE
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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec 31 16:51:16 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:51:16 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ARGO
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7a2GADKBEiYp5huXVBpY7cx+M0=tbqjujm60RaNVU1cqw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <008201cde788$c793e7a0$56bbb6e0$@centurytel.net>
	<CABP+t7Zs0cbpRtjm-O_5qwBSebJVyo06=HBYza32uZzBY9hpzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<815067F3-AA55-4EC0-AC57-CD81E2EDFE76@charter.net>
	<CABP+t7beDmsrEuH_unL0gZMfdZsz_s+TMOfK=rTkSL5WjATbJA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABP+t7asPvVycu5f0SE9e7RqwictwG4epdev=6_sQr=dZbKXXA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABP+t7aFPDSPPXiasbPsU=0ouTrtk1Y3nMCA5xTJxw_TVOYy5g@mail.gmail.com>
	<011701cde79e$60a72c30$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<BLU0-SMTP332F740D06D39F05D8A0FCE93C0@phx.gbl>
	<CABP+t7a2GADKBEiYp5huXVBpY7cx+M0=tbqjujm60RaNVU1cqw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP49863F22F3F3DC63C69F90E93C0@phx.gbl>

The last check I had was   137780.48    -    and could be propagation right now.
Thanks for looking though --- I'm starting to see some snow melting around the trees under the loop  - hi !
Maybe later.

And it must be 12 midnight somewhere now ? ?

Mitch
On 2012-12-31, at 4:43 PM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:

> LWCA web listing has MP listed at 137.7806, which would put you four tenths
> of one Hz below XNS. No I haven't started drinking yet. ;-)
> 
> 73, Doug KB4OER
> 
> 


From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 16:52:29 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:52:29 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ARGO
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP49863F22F3F3DC63C69F90E93C0@phx.gbl>
References: <008201cde788$c793e7a0$56bbb6e0$@centurytel.net>
	<CABP+t7Zs0cbpRtjm-O_5qwBSebJVyo06=HBYza32uZzBY9hpzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<815067F3-AA55-4EC0-AC57-CD81E2EDFE76@charter.net>
	<CABP+t7beDmsrEuH_unL0gZMfdZsz_s+TMOfK=rTkSL5WjATbJA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABP+t7asPvVycu5f0SE9e7RqwictwG4epdev=6_sQr=dZbKXXA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABP+t7aFPDSPPXiasbPsU=0ouTrtk1Y3nMCA5xTJxw_TVOYy5g@mail.gmail.com>
	<011701cde79e$60a72c30$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<BLU0-SMTP332F740D06D39F05D8A0FCE93C0@phx.gbl>
	<CABP+t7a2GADKBEiYp5huXVBpY7cx+M0=tbqjujm60RaNVU1cqw@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP49863F22F3F3DC63C69F90E93C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CABP+t7YvQGcK3EtUXTOa=aGz_pG5AfLwpZ8xunb8_-EvxBwWiw@mail.gmail.com>

Someone else just fired up right above XNS, and, if that's you Mitch, your
signal is getting stronger as I type this. Starting to get dark here....

-Doug KB4OER

On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>wrote:

> The last check I had was   137780.48    -    and could be propagation
> right now.
> Thanks for looking though --- I'm starting to see some snow melting around
> the trees under the loop  - hi !
> Maybe later.
>
> And it must be 12 midnight somewhere now ? ?
>
> Mitch
> On 2012-12-31, at 4:43 PM, Douglas D. Williams wrote:
>
> > LWCA web listing has MP listed at 137.7806, which would put you four
> tenths
> > of one Hz below XNS. No I haven't started drinking yet. ;-)
> >
> > 73, Doug KB4OER
> >
> >
>
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Mon Dec 31 16:54:26 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:54:26 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] ARGO
References: <008201cde788$c793e7a0$56bbb6e0$@centurytel.net><CABP+t7Zs0cbpRtjm-O_5qwBSebJVyo06=HBYza32uZzBY9hpzQ@mail.gmail.com><815067F3-AA55-4EC0-AC57-CD81E2EDFE76@charter.net><CABP+t7beDmsrEuH_unL0gZMfdZsz_s+TMOfK=rTkSL5WjATbJA@mail.gmail.com><CABP+t7asPvVycu5f0SE9e7RqwictwG4epdev=6_sQr=dZbKXXA@mail.gmail.com><CABP+t7aFPDSPPXiasbPsU=0ouTrtk1Y3nMCA5xTJxw_TVOYy5g@mail.gmail.com><011701cde79e$60a72c30$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<CABP+t7atELgpwV_h0+LBo13AOqC7honeD+znrcGE87Og33UrJw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <013601cde7a1$6710fd50$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Doug ... thanks for the capture

Mitch ... new smaller loop (with smaller area) may rob enough power from the bigger original loop to 
end up reducing ERP ... dunno. Would have to run numbers. No ... I have not started drinking.

Jay


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp,UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] ARGO


> Thanks, Jay. Just took a screenshot. Receiver tuned to 137.781 so I'm one
> tenth of one Hz off.
>
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33457409/133781Hz.jpg
>
> Still looking for MP in there though.....
>
> That faint trace right below XNS must be MP.
>
> Sorry, kinda combining two separate threads here. I don't multitask well.
> :-)
>
> 73, Doug KB4OER
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:32 PM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> GPS referenced to137781.000
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com
>> >
>> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp,UK) and MedFer bands" <
>> lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 4:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] ARGO
>>
>>
>>
>>  Anyone have the exact transmit frequency for XNS at the moment?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>>  Nope, gonna have to eat some crow. That's not MP I'm seeing, so I may be
>>>> off more than I think. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Still looking for MP.
>>>>
>>>> 73, Doug KB4OER
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Douglas D. Williams <kb4oer at gmail.com
>>>> >wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  John,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure you are absolutely correct. The method I described is just a
>>>>> quick and dirty method, not needing a frequency counter, known
>>>>> calibrated
>>>>> audio tone source, or any other equipment whatsoever. It has worked well
>>>>> enough for me for several years now that I know when (after I allow my
>>>>> receiver to warm up) I tune to a certain frequency from 10-500 kHz to
>>>>> receive a QRSS or WSPR signal I'm never more than half a Hz off.
>>>>> Looking at
>>>>> MP scrolling across now.... it looks like, now that my receiver has
>>>>> warmed
>>>>> up (and assuming MP is right on frequency), that I am one tenth of one
>>>>> Hz
>>>>> off in my calibration. I can't remember when I last did an Argo
>>>>> calibration
>>>>> on this receiver+upconverter....**probably early October, when the
>>>>> listening
>>>>> season started.
>>>>>
>>>>> I rarely tune above 500 kHz, so I don't give much thought to frequency
>>>>> calibration errors at HF or above.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Doug KB4OER
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 3:50 PM, John Andrews <w1tag at charter.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Doug,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to split a couple of hairs:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You need a known audio frequency to calibrate the sound card sampling
>>>>>> rate. An audio tone from a receiver that depends on a converter L.O.,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> one or more conversion oscillators (and maybe the BFO) doesn't qualify.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The combination of the converter and receiver likely has a frequency
>>>>>> offset that varies with receiver tuning. Calibration of that offset at
>>>>>> 60
>>>>>> kHz may be in error at other frequencies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The above applies to fussy situations like WOLF and slow PSK modes,
>>>>>> where sampling rate must be nailed to keep framing consistent, and
>>>>>> receiver
>>>>>> offsets nulled out.  For QRSS use, you'll likely see cal errors between
>>>>>> bands, and they MAY be small enough to ignore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John, W1TAG
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2012, at 2:43 PM, "Douglas D. Williams" <kb4oer at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Hi Mike. My method for calibrating ARGO is very simple, and does not
>>>>>> > require any extra equipment. As someone else pointed out, first you
>>>>>> have to
>>>>>> > know the BFO sidetone of your receiver. Most modern receivers allow
>>>>>> you to
>>>>>> > vary this sidetone through some sort of menu. I happen to like to
>>>>>> hear
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> > 700Hz tone when listening to CW, so that's what I keep mine at. I
>>>>>> tune
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> > 60 kHz WWBV with the receiver set to CW mode (reverse CW for Icom
>>>>>> > receivers), and allow the receiver to warm up for an hour. If you are
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> > an upconverter, then simply tune to the converter's LO frequency + 60
>>>>>> kHz,
>>>>>> > so in my case that would be 3.060 MHz. At this point I would set Argo
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> > some relatively fast QRSS speed such as QRSS10, and center 700Hz on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> > right side scale. You may have to reduce the receiver's audio gain
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> > lower Argo's sensitivity slider quite a bit because WWVB is very
>>>>>> strong in
>>>>>> > the lower 48. If your total system calibration is within 20Hz or so
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> > being correct, you should see a bold, thick line start scrolling
>>>>>> across the
>>>>>> > screen, with thinner lines (sidebands, I guess) above and below it.
>>>>>> What
>>>>>> > you want to do is go into Argo's setup menu and choose Calibration.
>>>>>> If
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> > see the bold line at, say 705Hz then you would enter 700 (if that's
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> > sidetone you are using) in the Measured frequency box and 705 in the
>>>>>> > Displayed frequency box. That should get you within one Hz of being
>>>>>> dead
>>>>>> > on. You can dial it in even more at the slower QRSS speeds by using
>>>>>> decimal
>>>>>> > places in the numbers you put in the Displayed frequency box.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > What you are doing is calibrating the total receive system (receiver,
>>>>>> > upconverter, computer sound card) to be correct on the Argo screen.
>>>>>> Of
>>>>>> > course, the job is easier if the oscillators in your receiver and
>>>>>> > upconverter are close to the frequency they should be. If you are
>>>>>> using an
>>>>>> > upconverter with one of those little 4 MHz crystals about the size
>>>>>> of a
>>>>>> > child's fingernail, good luck. ;-)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > At this point, many people go a step further because they like to
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> > Argo's frequency scale (the one on the right) display the actual
>>>>>> frequency
>>>>>> > (in Hz) that they have the receiver tuned to. This can be
>>>>>> accomplished
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> > using the Offset box in the Calibration window and typing in the
>>>>>> frequency
>>>>>> > you have the receiver tuned to, minus your BFO frequency, if I
>>>>>> remember
>>>>>> > correctly. I'm usually too lazy to do this, so my screen captures
>>>>>> tend
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> > just have the BFO sidetone frequency.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Well, that was a lot of typing to describe something that generally
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> > takes about five minutes to do, once the receiver is warmed up. ;-)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 73, Doug KB4OER
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Mike Sanders <k0az at centurytel.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Stan, Charlie and Mark, Thanks very much for all your input.
>>>>>> >> I am going to continue to follow through with this until I get it.
>>>>>> >> Your help may make the difference.
>>>>>> >> I am also using a converter and it is introducing minus 302 hz
>>>>>> >> of aggravation from the LO. My first lowfer target is WMS only
>>>>>> >> about 170 miles South of me.
>>>>>> >> I have not looked through all your email info yet but will as well
>>>>>> >> as checking out John's write up on ARGO set up.
>>>>>> >> Thanks again and you will know when I get a good capture.  73
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Happy New Year
>>>>>> >> Mike Sanders
>>>>>> >>      K0AZ
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
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From mbdittmar at comcast.net  Mon Dec 31 18:44:33 2012
From: mbdittmar at comcast.net (mbdittmar at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 23:44:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200 meters - Denver
Message-ID: <959321296.1485749.1356997473641.JavaMail.root@sz0005a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

As of 4:30 p local time, receiving XJ, XNS,MP,XES,XKO and XEB into DM79kv. 

73 Mark AB0CW lowfer MBD 

From wb8skp at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 19:09:42 2012
From: wb8skp at gmail.com (Denis)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:09:42 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer]  2200 meters - Murray, Ky.
In-Reply-To: <959321296.1485749.1356997473641.JavaMail.root@sz0005a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <959321296.1485749.1356997473641.JavaMail.root@sz0005a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <50E22946.7050901@gmail.com>

As of 6:07PM CST copying XEO XNS MP XES XKO

Denis, WB8SKP  EM56wr


From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Mon Dec 31 19:13:33 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:13:33 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200 meters - Denver
References: <959321296.1485749.1356997473641.JavaMail.root@sz0005a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001f01cde7b4$d6c64520$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Thanks for the report Mark. If possible, please post capture ... or send direct.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <mbdittmar at comcast.net>
To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 6:44 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200 meters - Denver


> As of 4:30 p local time, receiving XJ, XNS,MP,XES,XKO and XEB into DM79kv. 
> 
> 73 Mark AB0CW lowfer MBD 
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Mon Dec 31 19:13:57 2012
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:13:57 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200 meters - Murray, Ky.
References: <959321296.1485749.1356997473641.JavaMail.root@sz0005a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<50E22946.7050901@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002401cde7b4$e4bc2f00$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Thanks for the report Denis. If possible, please post capture ... or send direct.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Denis" <wb8skp at gmail.com>
To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 7:09 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200 meters - Murray, Ky.


> As of 6:07PM CST copying XEO XNS MP XES XKO
> 
> Denis, WB8SKP  EM56wr
> 
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From hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 31 19:36:39 2012
From: hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com (Laurence KL1 X)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:36:39 -0900
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200 meters - Murray, Ky.
In-Reply-To: <002401cde7b4$e4bc2f00$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <959321296.1485749.1356997473641.JavaMail.root@sz0005a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<50E22946.7050901@gmail.com>
	<002401cde7b4$e4bc2f00$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <BLU404-EAS259A567AF9689776FE1446ACF230@phx.gbl>

Hi chaps - got all of signals on the snappers to look thru from last night, but tonite ive multiple rxs and antennae at home  inthe 776.5 to 781.5 windows dot 60


Gl
Laurence kl7 uk mobile

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 31, 2012, at 3:14 PM, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:

> Thanks for the report Denis. If possible, please post capture ... or send direct.
> 
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denis" <wb8skp at gmail.com>
> To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 7:09 PM
> Subject: [Lowfer] 2200 meters - Murray, Ky.
> 
> 
>> As of 6:07PM CST copying XEO XNS MP XES XKO
>> Denis, WB8SKP  EM56wr
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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec 31 19:42:32 2012
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:42:32 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 2200 meters - Murray, Ky.
In-Reply-To: <50E22946.7050901@gmail.com>
References: <959321296.1485749.1356997473641.JavaMail.root@sz0005a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<50E22946.7050901@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP30191FD0E9D83D7FB10420E9230@phx.gbl>

Denis and Mark - thanks for the reports - and a Happy LF New Year.

Mitch   - M P -
On 2012-12-31, at 7:09 PM, Denis wrote:

> As of 6:07PM CST copying XEO XNS MP XES XKO
> 
> Denis, WB8SKP  EM56wr
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Mon Dec 31 19:58:36 2012
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:58:36 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] QRSS60
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Hi Mitch, Lowfers,

Reading between the lines, I think it's safe to say the caps did the job for you?
Better that they be in use than just collecting dust on a shelf in my shop!

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Mon Dec 31 20:48:47 2012
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 17:48:47 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] ok I give up
References: <50E12C26.4020100@employees.org>
Message-ID: <017b01cde7c2$a9ad9710$52a7f604@mainframe>

: I hit the menu Setup -> select input -> choose real time input but it
: doesn't change anything.

When you go to your sound card settings through your computers control 
panel, are all the cards selected to be activated at startup?  If so, then 
when you select real time input, you will go to your computers audio panel, 
choose an input, for example, I select Line In, this is the only input 
checked, then set the level to about 3/4, all is well, well, assuming I 
actually have a receiver connected to the line-in on my sound card, I've 
screwed that up a few times.  I am using version 1, build 134, I have yet to 
find a newer version that has worked, no point in torturing myself.

Of your three cards, from what I've seen in the past, such programs will 
pick either the "first" one, or the default one, is your receiver connected 
to that one or to one of the other two?

Kurt 


From kb4oer at gmail.com  Mon Dec 31 20:53:45 2012
From: kb4oer at gmail.com (Douglas D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 20:53:45 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] lots of signals tonight
Message-ID: <CABP+t7bvxZHgZVrunB=YBhNvjPMSz9YeWjCwMziFKCxpq8Ajug@mail.gmail.com>

Wow.

Probably some spurious signals in there.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33457409/newyearseve.jpg

73, Doug KB4OER

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 31 21:05:06 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 20:05:06 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Dec 31 137 kHz activity
Message-ID: <50E24452.3020007@sbcglobal.net>

It's still fairly early in the evening but XNS, 137781 Hz, QRSS30; MP, 
137780.4 Hz, QRSS60; XES, 137779 kHz, DFCW120; XKO, 137777.5 Hz, QRSS60; 
and XEB, 137776 Hz, QRSS60 are coming through strong. WG2XJV may have 
been on earlier but if so I missed it. But the "HNY" signal on 137777 Hz 
is probably from VO1NA; a possible signal on 137772.8 Hz may be SL from 
VE7SL; and the 60 sec dashes or "T"s on 137771.4 Hz may be from VE7BDQ. 
Glad the wide version of ARGO can handle the frequency spread.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From VE7SL at shaw.ca  Mon Dec 31 21:34:01 2012
From: VE7SL at shaw.ca (VE7SL at shaw.ca)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:34:01 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] Dec 31 137 kHz activity
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> a possible signal on 137772.8 Hz may be SL from
> VE7SL;

not me Gary --- just heading out the door for dinner ...may spark up when I 
get back around 0600Z but it looks like all of the fun will be over by then 
:-((

Steve

HNY


WEB - "The VE7SL Radio Notebook":  http://members.shaw.ca/ve7sl 



From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 31 21:39:33 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 20:39:33 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Dec 31 137 kHz activity
Message-ID: <50E24C65.6090203@sbcglobal.net>

HNY Steve, hope to catch you later (for real!). Do notice that XJ has 
just returned, around 137782.5 Hz.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 31 21:45:49 2012
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 20:45:49 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Dec 31 137 kHz activity
Message-ID: <50E24DDD.6040603@sbcglobal.net>

And XGJ is in there now too at 137779.8 Hz, QRSS60.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sun Dec 30 00:24:18 2012
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 05:24:18 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.17.1357162324.2428.lowfer@mailman.qth.net>

.jpg  73 Laurence KL1X WE2XPQL400B probe at 30ft/TS850 dodgy sound board 		=
 	   		  =

From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sun Dec 30 00:24:18 2012
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 05:24:18 -0000
Subject: No subject
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next several hours on 506.5 kHz. The I2PHD software can be found at  http://www.weaksignals.com/ .

Reports from hither and yon appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sun Dec 30 00:24:18 2012
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 05:24:18 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.122.1359152295.2428.lowfer@mailman.qth.net>

Lloyd W3NF

 2013-01-25 12:15  WD2XNS  0.137611  -12  0  FN31ls  1  W3NF  FM19mh  429
 232   2013-01-25 11:45  WD2XNS  0.137611  -5  0  FN31ls  1  W3NF  FM19
 423  234   2013-01-25 02:15  WD2XNS  0.137611  -6  0  FN31ls  1  W3NF
 FM19  423  234   2013-01-25 02:15  WE2XEB  0.137621  -4  0  FN12lq  5
 W3NF  FM19  357  180   2013-01-25 01:45  WE2XEB  0.137621  -8  0  FN12lq
 5  W3NF  FM19  357  180

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:26 PM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> WD2XNS will remain in WSPR-15 mode for the day today (sorry JD ... will do
> QRSS another day) for those that would like to continue to track condx
> throughout the daylight hours. TX has been running continuous (every other
> 15 minute period) since early last evening on 136000 kHz dial +1611. The
> receiver here is also running and uploading WSPR-15 spots on the opposite
> periods ... should anyone care to take advantage of that. As always,
> reports and spots are very much appreciated.
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sun Dec 30 00:24:18 2012
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W0YSE
W4DEX
WD2XSH/6
KB4OER
RLS
WG2XCT
WS1K
VE3ODZ
WD2XSH/17
K3SIW

Thanks again to all! Back again tonight.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 


