From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Tue Jun  4 08:36:36 2013
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 08:36:36 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Overnight navtex
In-Reply-To: <CABP+t7Yu+_UQL3MXgGuHGvf7F=+YpYDeP9n-mRr9YQ3Vevx35g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABP+t7Yu+_UQL3MXgGuHGvf7F=+YpYDeP9n-mRr9YQ3Vevx35g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CB481E4F-EC54-4C80-9FF1-CB0397737E84@hurontel.on.ca>

It seems that conditions have improved in the last 24 hours, as I finally decoded $04B in Bermuda again.
Several nights ago I only decoded $04H, my local at 100 miles, as there was a steady carrier on 518
which was masking all of the other transmissions I usually decode.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From wa3tts at verizon.net  Tue Jun  4 10:06:11 2013
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 10:06:11 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Early Tue Morning 600M band Condx
Message-ID: <3118B1BD504D44559105954B9F1461F2@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All: Good to see atmospheric & local noise levels drop and some skywave propagation on the 600M band early Tue morning.

73, Mike wa3tts



Date                       Call        Frequency SNR Drift Grid dBm W  by loc                           km    mi

2013-06-04 09:36 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 09:32 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 09:16 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -27 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 09:04 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 08:56 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 08:52 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -23 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 08:48 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 08:28 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 08:24 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -23 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 08:20 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 07:56 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 07:52 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -24 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 07:48 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 07:44 WG2XIQ 0.475637 -28 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 KC0BMF EN31be 988 614
2013-06-04 07:20 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 07:16 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -24 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 07:12 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 06:56 WG2XIQ 0.475637 -28 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 KC0BMF EN31be 988 614
2013-06-04 06:04 WG2XIQ 0.475637 -28 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 KC0BMF EN31be 988 614
2013-06-04 00:52 WG2XIQ 0.475640 -29 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:48 WG2XIQ 0.475640 -28 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:40 WG2XIQ 0.475639 -27 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:36 WG2XIQ 0.475639 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:32 WG2XIQ 0.475639 -27 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:28 WG2XIQ 0.475639 -28 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:24 WG2XIQ 0.475640 -27 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:20 WG2XIQ 0.475640 -28 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:16 WG2XIQ 0.475640 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:12 WG2XIQ 0.475640 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:08 WG2XIQ 0.475640 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:04 WG2XIQ 0.475639 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:00 WG2XIQ 0.475639 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun  4 10:13:04 2013
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 09:13:04 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Overnight navtex
Message-ID: <51ADF5F0.30207@sbcglobal.net>

J.B., I also monitored 518 kHz Navtex a bit over night. Signal levels 
here didn't seem very good and the noise floor was up a big from storms 
in western Iowa. But did decode Bermuda too at 0426Z. Lowfers EAR and MP 
continue to come in well.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From lowfer.nklagge at gmail.com  Tue Jun  4 17:05:43 2013
From: lowfer.nklagge at gmail.com (Neil)
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 15:05:43 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] Early Tue Morning 600M band Condx
In-Reply-To: <3118B1BD504D44559105954B9F1461F2@MichaelSappPC>
References: <3118B1BD504D44559105954B9F1461F2@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <ED3A1B01-6B94-47FF-B3C3-4D54B5300638@gmail.com>

No luck on 472 whisper out here in Utah overnight. 

Sent from Neil's iPhone

On Jun 4, 2013, at 8:06, "Michael Sapp" <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:

> Hi All: Good to see atmospheric & local noise levels drop and some skywave propagation on the 600M band early Tue morning.
> 
> 73, Mike wa3tts
> 
> 
> 
> Date                       Call        Frequency SNR Drift Grid dBm W  by loc                           km    mi
> 
> 2013-06-04 09:36 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
> 2013-06-04 09:32 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
> 2013-06-04 09:16 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -27 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
> 2013-06-04 09:04 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
> 2013-06-04 08:56 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
> 2013-06-04 08:52 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -23 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
> 2013-06-04 08:48 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
> 2013-06-04 08:28 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
> 2013-06-04 08:24 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -23 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
> 2013-06-04 08:20 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
> 2013-06-04 07:56 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
> 2013-06-04 07:52 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -24 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
> 2013-06-04 07:48 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
> 2013-06-04 07:44 WG2XIQ 0.475637 -28 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 KC0BMF EN31be 988 614
> 2013-06-04 07:20 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
> 2013-06-04 07:16 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -24 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
> 2013-06-04 07:12 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
> 2013-06-04 06:56 WG2XIQ 0.475637 -28 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 KC0BMF EN31be 988 614
> 2013-06-04 06:04 WG2XIQ 0.475637 -28 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 KC0BMF EN31be 988 614
> 2013-06-04 00:52 WG2XIQ 0.475640 -29 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
> 2013-06-04 00:48 WG2XIQ 0.475640 -28 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
> 2013-06-04 00:40 WG2XIQ 0.475639 -27 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
> 2013-06-04 00:36 WG2XIQ 0.475639 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
> 2013-06-04 00:32 WG2XIQ 0.475639 -27 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
> 2013-06-04 00:28 WG2XIQ 0.475639 -28 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
> 2013-06-04 00:24 WG2XIQ 0.475640 -27 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
> 2013-06-04 00:20 WG2XIQ 0.475640 -28 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
> 2013-06-04 00:16 WG2XIQ 0.475640 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
> 2013-06-04 00:12 WG2XIQ 0.475640 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
> 2013-06-04 00:08 WG2XIQ 0.475640 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
> 2013-06-04 00:04 WG2XIQ 0.475639 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
> 2013-06-04 00:00 WG2XIQ 0.475639 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
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From jlangridge at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun  4 22:35:35 2013
From: jlangridge at sbcglobal.net (John Langridge)
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 19:35:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Lowfer] Early Tue Morning 600M band Condx
In-Reply-To: <3118B1BD504D44559105954B9F1461F2@MichaelSappPC>
References: <3118B1BD504D44559105954B9F1461F2@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <1370399735.59531.YahooMailRC@web181305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Thanks Mike - it appears you have drawn first blood tonight.  It just got dark a 
bit ago and early sky wave pings have been in short supply recently. Maybe there 
is a good night in the making!

73,

John KB5NJD/WG2XIQ




________________________________
From: Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net>
To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tue, June 4, 2013 9:06:25 AM
Subject: [Lowfer] Early Tue Morning 600M band Condx

Hi All: Good to see atmospheric & local noise levels drop and some skywave 
propagation on the 600M band early Tue morning.

73, Mike wa3tts



Date                       Call        Frequency SNR Drift Grid dBm W  by loc    
                       km    mi

2013-06-04 09:36 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 09:32 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 09:16 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -27 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 09:04 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 08:56 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 08:52 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -23 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 08:48 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 08:28 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 08:24 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -23 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 08:20 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 07:56 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 07:52 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -24 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 07:48 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 07:44 WG2XIQ 0.475637 -28 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 KC0BMF EN31be 988 614
2013-06-04 07:20 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 07:16 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -24 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 07:12 WG2XIQ 0.475633 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 WA3TTS EN90xn 1743 1083
2013-06-04 06:56 WG2XIQ 0.475637 -28 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 KC0BMF EN31be 988 614
2013-06-04 06:04 WG2XIQ 0.475637 -28 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 KC0BMF EN31be 988 614
2013-06-04 00:52 WG2XIQ 0.475640 -29 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:48 WG2XIQ 0.475640 -28 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:40 WG2XIQ 0.475639 -27 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:36 WG2XIQ 0.475639 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:32 WG2XIQ 0.475639 -27 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:28 WG2XIQ 0.475639 -28 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:24 WG2XIQ 0.475640 -27 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:20 WG2XIQ 0.475640 -28 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:16 WG2XIQ 0.475640 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:12 WG2XIQ 0.475640 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:08 WG2XIQ 0.475640 -25 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:04 WG2XIQ 0.475639 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
2013-06-04 00:00 WG2XIQ 0.475639 -26 0 EM12mp +30 1.000 K5DNL EM15lj 306 190
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Tue Jun  4 22:45:16 2013
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 22:45:16 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] 600M open early tonite
Message-ID: <934EDC28DA0A48E5AF3A07443BA101BE@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All: First time in weeks I have an early decode on WG2XIQ

      Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az 
       2013-06-05 02:30   WG2XIQ   0.475634   -22   0   EM12mp   1   WA3TTS   EN90xn   1743   55  
       2013-06-05 02:26   WG2XIQ   0.475634   -24   0   EM12mp   1   WA3TTS   EN90xn   1743   55  
       2013-06-05 02:22   WG2XIQ   0.475635   -24   0   EM12mp   1   WA3TTS   EN90xn   1743   55  
       2013-06-05 02:18   WG2XIQ   0.475634   -24   0   EM12mp   1   WA3TTS   EN90xn   1743   55  
       2013-06-05 02:14   WG2XIQ   0.475634   -26   0   EM12mp   1   WA3TTS   EN90xn   1743   55 



MP his usual robust signal on 137.78 the evening with another station in another mode nearby (Wolfe ?? )

73, Mike wa3tts

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Wed Jun  5 21:05:52 2013
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 21:05:52 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] VO1NA 137777 QRSS
Message-ID: <006c01ce6251$fe000410$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

In case anyone is looking for a 'target' this evening.

http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jun  6 07:19:22 2013
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 06:19:22 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] VO1NA 137777 QRSS
Message-ID: <51B0703A.8020804@sbcglobal.net>

Jay, thanks for the heads up on VO1NA. XGJ and MP came in well here, but 
nothing was seen from NA, probably due to high noise floor. XGJ was into 
the F1AFJ grabber nicely and of course NA was very strong there. MP and 
EAR continue to be good daytime copy here.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Sat Jun  8 21:39:15 2013
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2013 21:39:15 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 CW & QRSS 12
Message-ID: <51B3DCC3.2040700@verizon.net>

WE2XGR/1 is back on 506.3 with CW and QRSS12

Reports Welcome!

73 K2ORS


From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jun  9 07:39:54 2013
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 06:39:54 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 CW & QRSS 12
Message-ID: <51B4698A.4080008@sbcglobal.net>

Warren, it was rather noisy over night here so generally only bits of 
XGR/1 came through, even when using QRSS20. Saw the signal with an 
e-probe, but never clear enough to decipher the Morse code. Using a loop 
and separate SDR-IQ (calibration a bit high), the message could be 
identified a few times over night.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Sun Jun  9 20:54:50 2013
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 20:54:50 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 506.3 CW & QRSS 12
In-Reply-To: <51B4698A.4080008@sbcglobal.net>
References: <51B4698A.4080008@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <51B523DA.5080805@verizon.net>

Thanks Garry!  Good copy despite the static!

73 Warren



On 6/9/2013 7:39 AM, Garry Hess wrote:
> Warren, it was rather noisy over night here so generally only bits of
> XGR/1 came through, even when using QRSS20. Saw the signal with an
> e-probe, but never clear enough to decipher the Morse code. Using a loop
> and separate SDR-IQ (calibration a bit high), the message could be
> identified a few times over night.
>
>
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Sun Jun  9 21:38:09 2013
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 21:38:09 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 137.7798 QRSS 60
Message-ID: <51B52E01.1090105@verizon.net>

WD2XGJ is on 137.7798 QRSS 60

reports welcome!

73 K2ORS


From lowfer.nklagge at gmail.com  Sun Jun  9 22:17:38 2013
From: lowfer.nklagge at gmail.com (Neil)
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 19:17:38 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 137.7798 QRSS 60
In-Reply-To: <51B52E01.1090105@verizon.net>
References: <51B52E01.1090105@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <F74206EF-1B75-4C05-8A15-CE54700863D3@gmail.com>

w0yse is QSX on ur freq via remote control. 

Sent from Neil's iPhone

On Jun 9, 2013, at 18:38, Warren K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:

> WD2XGJ is on 137.7798 QRSS 60
> 
> reports welcome!
> 
> 73 K2ORS
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jun 10 07:55:59 2013
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 06:55:59 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 137.7798 QRSS 60
Message-ID: <51B5BECF.5020701@sbcglobal.net>

Good copy here through the noise Warren. Also saw your signal making it 
to the F1AFJ grabber. Nothing seen of VO1NA, nor of DK7FC lower in 
frequency. Saw something around 137778.5 Hz 0400Z but couldn't identify it.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Mon Jun 10 11:02:39 2013
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:02:39 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 137.7798 QRSS 60
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Garry,
        Many thanks for the capture!
WD2XGJ likely QRT tonight and the next few nights due to stormy WX.

73 Warren K2ORS


On 6/10/2013 7:55 AM, Garry Hess wrote:
> Good copy here through the noise Warren. Also saw your signal making it
> to the F1AFJ grabber. Nothing seen of VO1NA, nor of DK7FC lower in
> frequency. Saw something around 137778.5 Hz 0400Z but couldn't identify it.
>
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From lowfer.nklagge at gmail.com  Mon Jun 10 12:44:10 2013
From: lowfer.nklagge at gmail.com (Neil)
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:44:10 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 137.7798 QRSS 60
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No luck in northern Utah last night Warren. 
Neil, w0yse

Sent from Neil's iPhone

On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:02, Warren K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:

> Garry,
>       Many thanks for the capture!
> WD2XGJ likely QRT tonight and the next few nights due to stormy WX.
> 
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> 
> 
> On 6/10/2013 7:55 AM, Garry Hess wrote:
>> Good copy here through the noise Warren. Also saw your signal making it
>> to the F1AFJ grabber. Nothing seen of VO1NA, nor of DK7FC lower in
>> frequency. Saw something around 137778.5 Hz 0400Z but couldn't identify it.
>> 
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Mon Jun 10 16:35:50 2013
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 16:35:50 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] WD2XGJ 137.7798 QRSS 60
In-Reply-To: <23A928E6-E78D-4F58-AB7F-746B266910C0@gmail.com>
References: <51B5BECF.5020701@sbcglobal.net> <51B5EA8F.1000506@verizon.net>
	<23A928E6-E78D-4F58-AB7F-746B266910C0@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <51B638A6.9010809@verizon.net>

Neil,

      Thanks for looking!
Will be QRT tonight due to stormy WX

73 Warren



On 6/10/2013 12:44 PM, Neil wrote:
> No luck in northern Utah last night Warren.
> Neil, w0yse
>
> Sent from Neil's iPhone
>
> On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:02, Warren K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Garry,
>>        Many thanks for the capture!
>> WD2XGJ likely QRT tonight and the next few nights due to stormy WX.
>>
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>
>>
>> On 6/10/2013 7:55 AM, Garry Hess wrote:
>>> Good copy here through the noise Warren. Also saw your signal making it
>>> to the F1AFJ grabber. Nothing seen of VO1NA, nor of DK7FC lower in
>>> frequency. Saw something around 137778.5 Hz 0400Z but couldn't identify it.
>>>
>>>
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From jlangridge at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun 11 15:10:31 2013
From: jlangridge at sbcglobal.net (John Langridge)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 12:10:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Lowfer] [600MRG] XIQ on wspr (630m)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2PvUTJQUfbEuptyJiGOp_04-wYjLJsrHgV3f-n606ax5rkxQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2PvUTJQUfbEuptyJiGOp_04-wYjLJsrHgV3f-n606ax5rkxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1370977831.62305.YahooMailNeo@web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Hi Neil,

There was a guy that shows up from PNW, maybe Washington, that had a few pings on me recently, but besides Eric XJM and Pete N1DYL up in New England, you are one of the outliers these days...

I gave a talk this past weekend at hamcom here in Texas (West Gulf Division convention) and not only did I have a huge response and attendance to both talks but there are guys actively working to get setup to receive and ultimately apply for a Part 5 license to transmit.? The outpouring of comments and questions has been amazing - almost overwhelming...? The interest is there if guys can get the info in their hands to make it happen.? I am running during the day and will continue to do so, wx permitting, to help the local guys evaluate their rx situation and determine what needs to happen to become active this Fall/Winter...

73 and thanks again for your efforts as a listener.


John KB5NJD/WG2XIQ



________________________________
 From: Neil Klagge <w0yse.7 at gmail.com>
To: 600mrg at w7ekb.com; lowfer group <lowfer at mailman.qth.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:04 PM
Subject: [600MRG] XIQ on wspr (630m)
 

Just wondering if I am the best DX lately for WG2XIQ. Or perhaps nobody is
listening to the northwest of Utah these days On 630 m? WSPR Band.

Neil Klagge, W0YSE


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From us66soft at aol.com  Sun Jun 16 20:25:28 2013
From: us66soft at aol.com (us66soft at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:25:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Lowfer] (no subject)
Message-ID: <8D039084D45F5CE-13C4-11365@webmail-m277.sysops.aol.com>

Good to see MP again after a couple weeks with too much nighttime QRN 
to extract anything; clearly need a loop for such conditions.  This was 
captured over an interval during which the sun was at zenith today in 
SE Kansas.  Static above S9 on frequent crashes with few breaks, signal 
below AGC threshold.

John D


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From lowfer.nklagge at gmail.com  Sun Jun 16 22:25:11 2013
From: lowfer.nklagge at gmail.com (Neil)
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:25:11 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] (no subject)
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Was he on 2200m or 1750m???

Sent from Neil's iPhone

On Jun 16, 2013, at 18:25, us66soft at aol.com wrote:

> Good to see MP again after a couple weeks with too much nighttime QRN to extract anything; clearly need a loop for such conditions.  This was captured over an interval during which the sun was at zenith today in SE Kansas.  Static above S9 on frequent crashes with few breaks, signal below AGC threshold.
> 
> John D
> 
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From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Sun Jun 16 22:52:17 2013
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 22:52:17 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <8D039084D45F5CE-13C4-11365@webmail-m277.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8D039084D45F5CE-13C4-11365@webmail-m277.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP3516F52CD7DBE9E49A875CE9830@phx.gbl>

Thanks John - just had a large cell pass over here this evening - 
lots of grape sized hail - and great fireworks displays.
'Tis the season.
Take care of yourself on your listening excursions !
73
Mitch
On 2013-06-16, at 8:25 PM, us66soft at aol.com wrote:

> Good to see MP again after a couple weeks with too much nighttime QRN to extract anything; clearly need a loop for such conditions.  This was captured over an interval during which the sun was at zenith today in SE Kansas.  Static above S9 on frequent crashes with few breaks, signal below AGC threshold.
> 
> John D
> 


From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Sun Jun 16 22:53:55 2013
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 22:53:55 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <3F545227-A7FB-4BC0-AB39-80D394216689@gmail.com>
References: <8D039084D45F5CE-13C4-11365@webmail-m277.sysops.aol.com>
	<3F545227-A7FB-4BC0-AB39-80D394216689@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP5910B53C4C6F6C066FEB83E9830@phx.gbl>

Only on 137780.5 Neil.
Lots of thunder/lightning around though - so shut down for a few hours
this evening.
Back on now @8AM MDT .
Mitch
On 2013-06-16, at 10:25 PM, Neil wrote:

> Was he on 2200m or 1750m???
> 
> Sent from Neil's iPhone
> 
> On Jun 16, 2013, at 18:25, us66soft at aol.com wrote:
> 
>> Good to see MP again after a couple weeks with too much nighttime QRN to extract anything; clearly need a loop for such conditions.  

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sun Jun 16 23:04:03 2013
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 23:04:03 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] OT:   6M W1VD <ES> VE7SL
Message-ID: <004c01ce6b07$52fd2cf0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Always nice to work another LF person on the 'nosebleed' bands. Double hop E skip tonight enabled 
the W1VD <> VE7SL cw QSO. Tnx Steve! Anyone else active on 6 meters?

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



From lowfer.nklagge at gmail.com  Sun Jun 16 23:10:37 2013
From: lowfer.nklagge at gmail.com (Neil)
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 21:10:37 -0600
Subject: [Lowfer] (no subject)
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References: <8D039084D45F5CE-13C4-11365@webmail-m277.sysops.aol.com>
	<3F545227-A7FB-4BC0-AB39-80D394216689@gmail.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP5910B53C4C6F6C066FEB83E9830@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <A62E426D-93A2-48C0-A9F2-C9D767D01E41@gmail.com>

Ok Mitch. I am on ur freq now with qrss60. 
TNX. Sent from Neil's iPhone WHICH IS CONTROLLING MY RIG REMOTELY. Will be home tomorrow afternoon.


On Jun 16, 2013, at 20:53, Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Only on 137780.5 Neil.
> Lots of thunder/lightning around though - so shut down for a few hours
> this evening.
> Back on now @8AM MDT .
> Mitch
> On 2013-06-16, at 10:25 PM, Neil wrote:
> 
>> Was he on 2200m or 1750m???
>> 
>> Sent from Neil's iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 18:25, us66soft at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Good to see MP again after a couple weeks with too much nighttime QRN to extract anything; clearly need a loop for such conditions.  
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From VE7SL at shaw.ca  Sun Jun 16 23:55:01 2013
From: VE7SL at shaw.ca (Steve)
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:55:01 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] OT:   6M W1VD <ES> VE7SL
In-Reply-To: <004c01ce6b07$52fd2cf0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <004c01ce6b07$52fd2cf0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <96D796E4DE8B44B2A608FEA949B52A97@StevePC>

Great to work you Jay...your call didn't twig with me while working  my way 
through the massive pileup of east coast callers but my ears perked up with 
the '1'...I finally realized who it was during our second chat. Now if we 
could only ragchew like that on 2200! ...maybe on a good night on 600m??

Steve / 73



> Always nice to work another LF person on the 'nosebleed' bands. Double hop 
> E skip tonight enabled the W1VD <> VE7SL cw QSO. Tnx Steve! Anyone else 
> active on 6 meters?
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
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WEB - "The VE7SL Radio Notebook":  http://members.shaw.ca/ve7sl 


From cvest at cox.net  Mon Jun 17 00:19:51 2013
From: cvest at cox.net (Charlie , W5COV)
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 23:19:51 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] OT:   6M W1VD <ES> VE7SL
In-Reply-To: <96D796E4DE8B44B2A608FEA949B52A97@StevePC>
References: <004c01ce6b07$52fd2cf0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<96D796E4DE8B44B2A608FEA949B52A97@StevePC>
Message-ID: <51BE8E67.8070408@cox.net>

I have a 6 meter receiver on most of the time that I am in the shack . 
Was working some DX on 12 and 17 meters today , so had it turned down .

Russia is still 599 here right now on 17 .

Charlie , W5COV
> Great to work you Jay...your call didn't twig with me while working  
> my way through the massive pileup of east coast callers but my ears 
> perked up with the '1'...I finally realized who it was during our 
> second chat. Now if we could only ragchew like that on 2200! ...maybe 
> on a good night on 600m??
>
> Steve / 73
>
>
>
>> Always nice to work another LF person on the 'nosebleed' bands. 
>> Double hop E skip tonight enabled the W1VD <> VE7SL cw QSO. Tnx 
>> Steve! Anyone else active on 6 meters?
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jun 17 07:16:56 2013
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 06:16:56 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] TACAMO
Message-ID: <51BEF028.4080804@sbcglobal.net>

Haven't looked at VLF for awhile but last night around 0800Z noticed a 
wideband TACAMO signal centered at 17.8 kHz.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Mon Jun 17 08:43:57 2013
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 08:43:57 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Overnight navtex
In-Reply-To: <5177F3AB.8050403@woh.rr.com>
References: <5177F3AB.8050403@woh.rr.com>
Message-ID: <1F9EED01-4F32-4080-84C8-B2DF7202A07D@hurontel.on.ca>

I managed a clean decode of $04B, Bermuda, last night after a long stretch of poor conditions yielding just the locals.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From k2ors at verizon.net  Mon Jun 17 11:31:52 2013
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:31:52 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] OT:   6M W1VD <ES> VE7SL
In-Reply-To: <004c01ce6b07$52fd2cf0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <004c01ce6b07$52fd2cf0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <51BF2BE8.80302@verizon.net>

Jay,
       I just put up a 5 element 6m beam about a week ago, missed the 
VE7s but did work a TF3 in Iceland.

       We should try AM some time!

73 Warren K2ORS



On 6/16/2013 11:04 PM, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
> Always nice to work another LF person on the 'nosebleed' bands. Double
> hop E skip tonight enabled the W1VD <> VE7SL cw QSO. Tnx Steve! Anyone
> else active on 6 meters?
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
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From w1tag at charter.net  Tue Jun 18 09:09:28 2013
From: w1tag at charter.net (w1tag at charter.net)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 09:09:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Lowfer] EAR in ME
Message-ID: <4cd23dd6.914a59.13f5767805f.Webtop.43@charter.net>

J.B.,

Had nice copy of EAR in Raymond, ME last night. Some copy was visible 
between 0300 and 0815 UTC, with the best in the shot below from 0710 to 
0810 UTC. Distance is 561 miles, so not rare DX, but nice to see at this 
time of year.

John, W1TAG
FN43sv

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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Tue Jun 18 10:48:32 2013
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 10:48:32 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] EAR in ME
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References: <4cd23dd6.914a59.13f5767805f.Webtop.43@charter.net>
Message-ID: <795EB45E-C04B-40AF-8066-59817FCE7F75@hurontel.on.ca>

Thanks for the report and capture, John.  Nice to know that the signal is getting out of my back yard.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From wa3tts at verizon.net  Tue Jun 18 22:53:14 2013
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 22:53:14 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] RFI 162 kHz TAG 185.297
Message-ID: <F9C624349C554B3E99020D44642147CD@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All: Radio France International Q4~5 AM modulation on 162 kHz in the 0230~0245 time frame, carrier at S8 with QRN crash peaks in CW mode. TAG trying to become visible on my QRSS waterfall on 185.297 kHz.  May give 600M wspr a run in an hour or two.....73  Mike wa3tts

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Wed Jun 19 08:55:30 2013
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:55:30 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] XIQ last nite
Message-ID: <E7FD65D72D2749E4B91C8D428BC767E8@MikePC>

Hi All, a few XIQ decodes on 600M early AM hours, Light traces visible in the 0600Z hour but no decode on SW EWE transformer.. No decodes on XKA in 0500Z hour on NE EWE transformer (18' X70' X18' with insulated on-ground wire between NE & SW ground rods. Ttransformers on each end of single EWE). TAG was visible from 0200~0500 on 185.297 but rapid qsb the whole time. TAG peak sigs at -66 on ARGO QRSS 60 but many fades below -75.....73 Mike wa3tts

Applied DC "sealing current" to each end of antenna B4 listening. Reduced resistance 1 ohm on SW end and .2 ohm on NE end....

0852 -26 -0.7   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0856 -25 -0.7   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0904 -26 -0.7   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0908 -26 -0.7   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0912 -27 -0.7   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0924 -28 -0.7   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0936 -22 -0.8   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0940 -25 -0.7   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0948 -26 -0.8   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30

From jlangridge at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jun 19 09:11:23 2013
From: jlangridge at sbcglobal.net (John Langridge)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 06:11:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Lowfer] XIQ last nite
In-Reply-To: <E7FD65D72D2749E4B91C8D428BC767E8@MikePC>
References: <E7FD65D72D2749E4B91C8D428BC767E8@MikePC>
Message-ID: <1371647483.6240.YahooMailNeo@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Thanks Mike, still pretty noisy down there.

By the way, for something completely different, I'm halfway entertaining the idea of running the ARRL FD CW Bulletin as a beacon this weekend at the top of every hour on or around 473.65 KHz as an outreach and exposure opportunity for the band.? I am working to get the ARRL and the NTX section manager behind the idea.? Really focusing on the ground wave in the NTX section but if the storm noise stays down, it might be available over a wider range... details as this develops.

73 and thanks again for listening!

John KB5NJD/WG2XIQ




________________________________
 From: Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net>
To: Lowfer List <lowfer at mailman.qth.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 7:55 AM
Subject: [Lowfer] XIQ last nite
 

Hi All, a few XIQ decodes on 600M early AM hours, Light traces visible in the 0600Z hour but no decode on SW EWE transformer.. No decodes on XKA in 0500Z hour on NE EWE transformer (18' X70' X18' with insulated on-ground wire between NE & SW ground rods. Ttransformers on each end of single EWE). TAG was visible from 0200~0500 on 185.297 but rapid qsb the whole time. TAG peak sigs at -66 on ARGO QRSS 60 but many fades below -75.....73 Mike wa3tts

Applied DC "sealing current" to each end of antenna B4 listening. Reduced resistance 1 ohm on SW end and .2 ohm on NE end....

0852 -26 -0.7?  0.475630? 0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0856 -25 -0.7?  0.475630? 0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0904 -26 -0.7?  0.475630? 0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0908 -26 -0.7?  0.475630? 0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0912 -27 -0.7?  0.475630? 0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0924 -28 -0.7?  0.475630? 0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0936 -22 -0.8?  0.475630? 0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0940 -25 -0.7?  0.475630? 0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
0948 -26 -0.8?  0.475630? 0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
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From k2ors at verizon.net  Wed Jun 19 10:12:22 2013
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:12:22 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] XIQ last nite
In-Reply-To: <E7FD65D72D2749E4B91C8D428BC767E8@MikePC>
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Michael,

     What is a DC "sealing current"?

73 Warren


On 6/19/2013 8:55 AM, Michael Sapp wrote:
> Hi All, a few XIQ decodes on 600M early AM hours, Light traces visible in the 0600Z hour but no decode on SW EWE transformer.. No decodes on XKA in 0500Z hour on NE EWE transformer (18' X70' X18' with insulated on-ground wire between NE & SW ground rods. Ttransformers on each end of single EWE). TAG was visible from 0200~0500 on 185.297 but rapid qsb the whole time. TAG peak sigs at -66 on ARGO QRSS 60 but many fades below -75.....73 Mike wa3tts
>
> Applied DC "sealing current" to each end of antenna B4 listening. Reduced resistance 1 ohm on SW end and .2 ohm on NE end....
>
> 0852 -26 -0.7   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
> 0856 -25 -0.7   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
> 0904 -26 -0.7   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
> 0908 -26 -0.7   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
> 0912 -27 -0.7   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
> 0924 -28 -0.7   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
> 0936 -22 -0.8   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
> 0940 -25 -0.7   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
> 0948 -26 -0.8   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
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From L.Howell at conocophillips.com  Wed Jun 19 14:18:58 2013
From: L.Howell at conocophillips.com (Howell, Laurence J)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:18:58 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] COntact sealing/wetting current
Message-ID: <F1024B91C2B8B34C934F5E95F449105C22A8B91123@ANCEXMB71.conoco.net>

Im thinking

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wetting_current

..,..Hums and reminisces about contact cleaning and checking volts were actually there in Pre 2000 Strowger Exchanges relays and 2 motions...

Laurence KL 1 X

Warren write..

Michael,

     What is a DC "sealing current"?

73 Warren


On 6/19/2013 8:55 AM, Michael Sapp wrote:
> Hi All, a few XIQ decodes on 600M early AM hours, Light traces visible in the 0600Z hour but no decode on SW EWE transformer.. No decodes on XKA in 0500Z hour on NE EWE transformer (18' X70' X18' with insulated on-ground wire between NE & SW ground rods. Ttransformers on each end of single EWE). TAG was visible from 0200~0500 on 185.297 but rapid qsb the whole time. TAG peak sigs at -66 on ARGO QRSS 60 but many fades below -75.....73 Mike wa3tts
>
> Applied DC "sealing current" to each end of antenna B4 listening. Reduced resistance 1 ohm on SW end and .2 ohm on NE end....
>
> 0852 -26 -0.7   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
> 0856 -25 -0.7   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
> 0904 -26 -0.7   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
> 0908 -26 -0.7   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
> 0912 -27 -0.7   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
> 0924 -28 -0.7   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
> 0936 -22 -0.8   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
> 0940 -25 -0.7   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
> 0948 -26 -0.8   0.475630  0 WG2XIQ EM12 30
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Wed Jun 19 17:48:18 2013
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:48:18 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Sealing Current
Message-ID: <4A02514DF07140A99FFD1A8253F0B7F3@MichaelSappPC>

Warren & All: My use of the term "Sealing Current" may not be 100 percent accurate. I'm referring to the use of a low to moderate DC current (~20 ma) on my EWE receive transmission lines (and return through transformer primarys) to maintain a low-resistance connection between the mechanically-joined conductors (connectors).

I from my brief key word searches on Google and Google Patent, and Wiki, it was originated in the telecom industry to maintain low line resistance for telecom lines that are not in continuous use....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wetting_current

"A related term sealing current (aka wetting current or fritt current) is widely used in the telecommunication industry describing a small constant DC current (typically 1-20mA) in copper wire loops in order to avoid contact oxidation of contacts and splices. It is defined in ITU-T G.992.3 for "all digital mode ADSL" as a current flowing from the ATU-C (ADSLLinecard) via the phone lines to the ATU-R (CPE)."

Some years back I had a Kenwood TS-430 that developed an intermittent rx/tx relay problem. One mod/fix I located (dkmods,etc.) was to add a simple circuit that would trickle several ma of continuous DC on the rx side of the relay to keep the contacts clean. The mod worked well so that fix stayed in the back of my head as a potentially useful tech tip that could be used elsewhere....at the time I did not know it was related to the telecom sealing~wetting current technique...

Since my EWE does not have any remote preamps, it does not see much electrical potential or current on the conductors---as compared to an active e-probe for example). Since I do not get on the air as often these days, I am not inducing much RF power into the EWE and transmission lines as well.  The temporary application of DC is to assist in keeping the F-connector contact resistance low in the RG6 cables I use for receiving....

I was telling John/XIQ a few weeks back I had one old splice on my NE transmission line that was acting up and a short "blast" or DC usually restored the low-ohm condition. Having recently replaced that splice the loop resistance has been very consistent. Last nite it only changed .2 ohms and it has not been "zapped" for a week prior to that.   I was doing the sealing current thing over the winter as it helped the situation without me having to dig and roll around in the snow to find the system fault.  That particular splice was a "gold barrel" and a pair of male F connectors. After removing the coax seal and tape they "looked good" but likely were the cause of the winter time problem as the NE cable no longer tends to be in wandering DC resistance mode.....

Once or twice I've had small animals munch on the cable jackets and once had a transmision line used as a chew-toy, so I check the DC loop resistance once a week or so to verify the cable and connector integuity. Too bad Belden does not impregnate their cable jackets with hot pepper oil (hi)....

73  Mike wa3tts





From juangranados at bellsouth.net  Wed Jun 19 18:05:51 2013
From: juangranados at bellsouth.net (JUAN A. GRANADOS)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 22:05:51 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] Sealing Current
In-Reply-To: <4A02514DF07140A99FFD1A8253F0B7F3@MichaelSappPC>
References: <4A02514DF07140A99FFD1A8253F0B7F3@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <51C22B3F.4030005@bellsouth.net>

Hi Michael!

Excellent stuff!

73

Juan /K4LCD

On 06/19/2013 9:48 PM, Michael Sapp wrote:
> Warren & All: My use of the term "Sealing Current" may not be 100 percent accurate. I'm referring to the use of a low to moderate DC current (~20 ma) on my EWE receive transmission lines (and return through transformer primarys) to maintain a low-resistance connection between the mechanically-joined conductors (connectors).
>
> I from my brief key word searches on Google and Google Patent, and Wiki, it was originated in the telecom industry to maintain low line resistance for telecom lines that are not in continuous use....
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wetting_current
>
> "A related term sealing current (aka wetting current or fritt current) is widely used in the telecommunication industry describing a small constant DC current (typically 1-20mA) in copper wire loops in order to avoid contact oxidation of contacts and splices. It is defined in ITU-T G.992.3 for "all digital mode ADSL" as a current flowing from the ATU-C (ADSLLinecard) via the phone lines to the ATU-R (CPE)."
>
> Some years back I had a Kenwood TS-430 that developed an intermittent rx/tx relay problem. One mod/fix I located (dkmods,etc.) was to add a simple circuit that would trickle several ma of continuous DC on the rx side of the relay to keep the contacts clean. The mod worked well so that fix stayed in the back of my head as a potentially useful tech tip that could be used elsewhere....at the time I did not know it was related to the telecom sealing~wetting current technique...
>
> Since my EWE does not have any remote preamps, it does not see much electrical potential or current on the conductors---as compared to an active e-probe for example). Since I do not get on the air as often these days, I am not inducing much RF power into the EWE and transmission lines as well.  The temporary application of DC is to assist in keeping the F-connector contact resistance low in the RG6 cables I use for receiving....
>
> I was telling John/XIQ a few weeks back I had one old splice on my NE transmission line that was acting up and a short "blast" or DC usually restored the low-ohm condition. Having recently replaced that splice the loop resistance has been very consistent. Last nite it only changed .2 ohms and it has not been "zapped" for a week prior to that.   I was doing the sealing current thing over the winter as it helped the situation without me having to dig and roll around in the snow to find the system fault.  That particular splice was a "gold barrel" and a pair of male F connectors. After removing the coax seal and tape they "looked good" but likely were the cause of the winter time problem as the NE cable no longer tends to be in wandering DC resistance mode.....
>
> Once or twice I've had small animals munch on the cable jackets and once had a transmision line used as a chew-toy, so I check the DC loop resistance once a week or so to verify the cable and connector integuity. Too bad Belden does not impregnate their cable jackets with hot pepper oil (hi)....
>
> 73  Mike wa3tts
>
>
>
>
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From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 20 01:07:48 2013
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 22:07:48 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] VHF Question.
References: <1368757381.79798.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<519666E1.2010508@hifidelity.com>
Message-ID: <019401ce6d74$b0e75e70$95a1f604@mainframe>

Seems 49 MHz Part 15 equipment came out in the mid-70's or so.  When was 49 
MHz allocated?  Was there ever any tube type equipment?

Kurt 


From k2ors at verizon.net  Thu Jun 20 09:08:17 2013
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:08:17 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] VHF Question.
In-Reply-To: <019401ce6d74$b0e75e70$95a1f604@mainframe>
References: <1368757381.79798.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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	<019401ce6d74$b0e75e70$95a1f604@mainframe>
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Kurt,
       A quick search shows that 49MHz was allocated in November 1984.
I'd be very surprised if there were ever any commercially made tube 
equipment for this use. (Of course 30-50MHz was a land-mobile band for 
decades and there are piles of tube type equipment for that).

73 Warren K2ORS



On 6/20/2013 1:07 AM, KD7JYK DM09 wrote:
> Seems 49 MHz Part 15 equipment came out in the mid-70's or so.  When was 49
> MHz allocated?  Was there ever any tube type equipment?
>
> Kurt
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From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 21 00:05:14 2013
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:05:14 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] VHF Question.
References: <1368757381.79798.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><519666E1.2010508@hifidelity.com><019401ce6d74$b0e75e70$95a1f604@mainframe>
	<51C2FEC1.9000201@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <023401ce6e35$776dce10$a1dff604@mainframe>

:       A quick search shows that 49MHz was allocated in November 1984.
: I'd be very surprised if there were ever any commercially made tube
: equipment for this use.

True, tube wouldn't make sense.  I thought 49 MHz went back further than 
that.  I do have a 49 MHz monitor from '84, was going to dig up some old 
catalogs and see if there was any mention of it.

Thanks.

Kurt 


From k2ors at verizon.net  Fri Jun 21 09:13:37 2013
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:13:37 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] VHF Question.
In-Reply-To: <023401ce6e35$776dce10$a1dff604@mainframe>
References: <1368757381.79798.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><519666E1.2010508@hifidelity.com><019401ce6d74$b0e75e70$95a1f604@mainframe>
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	<023401ce6e35$776dce10$a1dff604@mainframe>
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Kurt,
       I'm not sure why you are asking - are you looking for 49MHz tube 
gear? If so, there is tons of Motorola and GE land mobile stuff, some of 
it must have escaped the landfill. Also, there were lots of tube type 6m 
gear by Clegg, Gonset, Lafayette etc.

       I think the technology drove the regulations here, when rf 
transistors capable of working at 6m became cheap and available the FCC 
set aside a little used part of the land mobile spectrum for 
walkie-talkies, cordless phones, and baby monitors. It's not the other 
way around - the spectrum did not come first. As John pointed out the 
FCC makes no provision for filament power in the regulation which allows 
100mW total input to the final stage, so tubes were never a consideration.

        BTW, listened on 49MHz, it seems that there are still some baby 
monitors out there, no phones though.

73 Warren K2ORS




  6/21/2013 12:05 AM, KD7JYK DM09 wrote:
> :       A quick search shows that 49MHz was allocated in November 1984.
> : I'd be very surprised if there were ever any commercially made tube
> : equipment for this use.
>
> True, tube wouldn't make sense.  I thought 49 MHz went back further than
> that.  I do have a 49 MHz monitor from '84, was going to dig up some old
> catalogs and see if there was any mention of it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Kurt
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From k5wms at centurytel.net  Fri Jun 21 11:47:41 2013
From: k5wms at centurytel.net (Paul Daulton)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:47:41 GMT
Subject: [Lowfer] VHF Question.
Message-ID: <20130621114741.8lhfbkwpbis0cws0@webmail2.centurytel.net>



I seem to remember an article in 73 that described a repeater with 
42mhz in and 49mhz out some ham built for the kids in his neighborhood. 
also a beam for 49 MHz with the transceiver built into the driven 
element. 

Seems like 49mhz was allocated before 84. 465 was allocated back in the 
40's, 11 meters in 58 best I remember. Anyone remember the  Vocaline 
uhf transceivers they had about a 2 block range and would upset garage 
door openers!

In the 50's and 60's six meters was the technicians band, we had FM, AM 
and SSB(in the late 60's). Two meters was not allocated to technician 
class until about FEB 61. I had a novice and technician at the same 
time and operated six with K5WMS and two with Kn5wms. Rule change in 59 
or 60 in nbfm rules dumped tons of lowband gear on the surplus market. 
Local radio club got couple hundred '39 vintage Link two piece rigs 
donated from Forestry Service, these were modified to 50.5mhz. 

Nice to reminiss

Paul


Quoting Warren K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net>:
> Kurt,
>        I'm not sure why you are asking - are you looking for 49MHz tube
> gear? If so, there is tons of Motorola and GE land mobile stuff, some of
> it must have escaped the landfill. Also, there were lots of tube type 6m
> gear by Clegg, Gonset, Lafayette etc. 
>
>        I think the technology drove the regulations here, when rf
> transistors capable of working at 6m became cheap and available the FCC
> set aside a little used part of the land mobile spectrum for
> walkie-talkies, cordless phones, and baby monitors. It's not the other
> way around - the spectrum did not come first. As John pointed out the
> FCC makes no provision for filament power in the regulation which allows
> 100mW total input to the final stage, so tubes were never a consideration. 
>
>         BTW, listened on 49MHz, it seems that there are still some baby
> monitors out there, no phones though. 
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>
>
>
>
>   6/21/2013 12:05 AM, KD7JYK DM09 wrote:
> > :       A quick search shows that 49MHz was allocated in November 1984. 
> > : I'd be very surprised if there were ever any commercially made tube
> > : equipment for this use. 
> >
> > True, tube wouldn't make sense.  I thought 49 MHz went back further than
> > that.  I do have a 49 MHz monitor from '84, was going to dig up some old
> > catalogs and see if there was any mention of it. 
> >
> > Thanks. 
> >
> > Kurt
> >
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From lmlangenfeld at tds.net  Fri Jun 21 11:53:05 2013
From: lmlangenfeld at tds.net (lmlangenfeld tds.net)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 10:53:05 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] VHF Question.
In-Reply-To: <20130621114741.8lhfbkwpbis0cws0@webmail2.centurytel.net>
References: <20130621114741.8lhfbkwpbis0cws0@webmail2.centurytel.net>
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On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Paul Daulton <k5wms at centurytel.net> wrote:

>
> . also a beam for 49 MHz with the transceiver built into the driven
> element. *Paul:  If memory serves, Part 15 specifies a "single element."
> --  Mark -- WA9ETW*
>
>
>
>
>

From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 21 23:43:04 2013
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 20:43:04 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] VHF Question.
References: <1368757381.79798.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><519666E1.2010508@hifidelity.com><019401ce6d74$b0e75e70$95a1f604@mainframe><51C2FEC1.9000201@verizon.net><023401ce6e35$776dce10$a1dff604@mainframe>
	<51C45181.9070007@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <016301ce6efa$bbf2bd50$9aa7f604@mainframe>

:       I'm not sure why you are asking - are you looking for 49MHz tube
: gear?

When 49 MHz became available for Part 15 devices, such as remote controls, 
cordless mice/keyboards, walkie-talkies, wireless thermometers, et cetera. 
Not phones, per se.  My 1984 freuqncy guide doesn't mention any 49 Mhz stuff 
other than Federal Gov't usage.

It seems the spectrum opened up in the 80's, so, about twenty years late for 
consumer tube equipment, although one could homebrew something using parts 
four-decades-plus older than the band.

Kurt 


From mitch.powell at sympatico.ca  Sat Jun 22 00:01:11 2013
From: mitch.powell at sympatico.ca (Mitch Powell)
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 00:01:11 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] VHF Question.
In-Reply-To: <016301ce6efa$bbf2bd50$9aa7f604@mainframe>
References: <1368757381.79798.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><519666E1.2010508@hifidelity.com><019401ce6d74$b0e75e70$95a1f604@mainframe><51C2FEC1.9000201@verizon.net><023401ce6e35$776dce10$a1dff604@mainframe>
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	<016301ce6efa$bbf2bd50$9aa7f604@mainframe>
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I have a brand new ( in the box ) 8078 power triode.... good for 500-600 watts at 50 MHz.
Try googling for the specs.
The 5v @ 35 Amp filament might make a nice desklamp.

73
Mitch
On 2013-06-21, at 11:43 PM, KD7JYK DM09 wrote:

> :       I'm not sure why you are asking - are you looking for 49MHz tube
> : gear?
> 
> When 49 MHz became available for Part 15 devices, such as remote controls, 
> cordless mice/keyboards, walkie-talkies, wireless thermometers, et cetera. 
> Not phones, per se.  My 1984 freuqncy guide doesn't mention any 49 Mhz stuff 
> other than Federal Gov't usage.
> 
> It seems the spectrum opened up in the 80's, so, about twenty years late for 
> consumer tube equipment, although one could homebrew something using parts 
> four-decades-plus older than the band.
> 
> Kurt 
> 
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From mike_staines at email.com  Sat Jun 22 20:09:30 2013
From: mike_staines at email.com (Mike Staines - WM1KE)
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 20:09:30 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] VHF Question.
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP896F2E9C4B2F316EE136D2E9880@phx.gbl>
References: <1368757381.79798.YahooMailClassic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<519666E1.2010508@hifidelity.com>
	<019401ce6d74$b0e75e70$95a1f604@mainframe>
	<51C2FEC1.9000201@verizon.net>
	<023401ce6e35$776dce10$a1dff604@mainframe>
	<51C45181.9070007@verizon.net>
	<016301ce6efa$bbf2bd50$9aa7f604@mainframe>
	<BLU0-SMTP896F2E9C4B2F316EE136D2E9880@phx.gbl>
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This discussion got me reminiscing...

My grandfather and great uncle both worked for David Sarnoff at RCA. I
remember that in their basement was an old tube FM "home broadcasting"
transmitter for sub-50 Mhz. It was bult back in the days when the FM
broadcast band was down there. As I remember it, the plans were published
in RCA's in-house magazine, authored by the two of them. I dont have it but
perhaps it is archived somewhere.

Further info at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM_broadcasting_in_the_United_States

My brother has the familtes old console with AM/SW and the 42-50 Mhz FM
band on it.

73
Mike
WM1KE
(who's club operated Field Day for 3 hours then shut down)
8-(


On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 12:01 AM, Mitch Powell <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>wrote:

> I have a brand new ( in the box ) 8078 power triode.... good for 500-600
> watts at 50 MHz.
> Try googling for the specs.
> The 5v @ 35 Amp filament might make a nice desklamp.
>
> 73
> Mitch
> On 2013-06-21, at 11:43 PM, KD7JYK DM09 wrote:
>
> > :       I'm not sure why you are asking - are you looking for 49MHz tube
> > : gear?
> >
> > When 49 MHz became available for Part 15 devices, such as remote
> controls,
> > cordless mice/keyboards, walkie-talkies, wireless thermometers, et
> cetera.
> > Not phones, per se.  My 1984 freuqncy guide doesn't mention any 49 Mhz
> stuff
> > other than Federal Gov't usage.
> >
> > It seems the spectrum opened up in the 80's, so, about twenty years late
> for
> > consumer tube equipment, although one could homebrew something using
> parts
> > four-decades-plus older than the band.
> >
> > Kurt
> >
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From k5wms at centurytel.net  Sat Jun 22 22:42:00 2013
From: k5wms at centurytel.net (Paul Daulton)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 02:42:00 GMT
Subject: [Lowfer] VHF Question.
Message-ID: <20130622224200.x4cpsxfpryq04g0g@webmail2.centurytel.net>

Pbs ran an hour program years ago about the Yankee network the 42 50 
mhz band. I will check and see if any of my friends have a copy. I 
think it dealt with the patent fight between Armstrong and Sarnoff over 
FM. 

I have a Hallicrafters T50 five inch tv which has channel 1 on it ,48 
to 54 mhz. It was built in 47, in 48 the FCC omited channel 1 and gvae 
it to hams as the six meter band. Technicians didnt get 6 until 55 or 
so. It was in the 50's that 40 got a phone band. I started swling in 55 
and remember hams talking about the new 15 meter band and 40 phone. 
Originallly technicians had 220 and above. I'l hAve to dig out some 
handbooks from the 40's and 50's and look themover. 

Paul k5wms

Quoting Mike Staines - WM1KE <mike_staines at email.com>:
> This discussion got me reminiscing... 
>
> My grandfather and great uncle both worked for David Sarnoff at RCA. I
> remember that in their basement was an old tube FM "home broadcasting"
> transmitter for sub-50 Mhz. It was bult back in the days when the FM
> broadcast band was down there. As I remember it, the plans were published
> in RCA's in-house magazine, authored by the two of them. I dont have it but
> perhaps it is archived somewhere. 
>
> Further info at:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM_broadcasting_in_the_United_States
>
> My brother has the familtes old console with AM/SW and the 42-50 Mhz FM
> band on it. 
>
> 73
> Mike
> WM1KE
> (who's club operated Field Day for 3 hours then shut down)
> 8-(
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 12:01 AM, Mitch Powell 
> <mitch.powell at sympatico.ca>wrote:
>
> > I have a brand new ( in the box ) 8078 power triode.... good for 500-600
> > watts at 50 MHz. 
> > Try googling for the specs. 
> > The 5v @ 35 Amp filament might make a nice desklamp. 
> >
> > 73
> > Mitch
> > On 2013-06-21, at 11:43 PM, KD7JYK DM09 wrote:
> >
> > > :       I'm not sure why you are asking - are you looking for 49MHz tube
> > > : gear?
> > >
> > > When 49 MHz became available for Part 15 devices, such as remote
> > controls,
> > > cordless mice/keyboards, walkie-talkies, wireless thermometers, et
> > cetera. 
> > > Not phones, per se.  My 1984 freuqncy guide doesn't mention any 49 Mhz
> > stuff
> > > other than Federal Gov't usage. 
> > >
> > > It seems the spectrum opened up in the 80's, so, about twenty years late
> > for
> > > consumer tube equipment, although one could homebrew something using
> > parts
> > > four-decades-plus older than the band. 
> > >
> > > Kurt
> > >
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Paul Daulton K5WMS
beacon WMS 185.302 khz qrss30/slow 24/7
Jacksonville,Ar 72076
em34wu


From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 23 02:28:08 2013
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 23:28:08 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] VHF Question.
References: <20130622224200.x4cpsxfpryq04g0g@webmail2.centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <027601ce6fdc$039619e0$aca7f604@mainframe>

I have a T54 with channel 1 under the guest bed.  I have one or two radios 
with the old FM band as well.  When did we lose the 5m band?

Kurt 


From k5wms at centurytel.net  Mon Jun 24 23:34:19 2013
From: k5wms at centurytel.net (Paul Daulton)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 03:34:19 GMT
Subject: [Lowfer] link to lw and swbc
Message-ID: <20130624233419.nb3e4fiohxwgk8o4@webmail2.centurytel.net>

While discussing the Kon Tiki movie now in theaters and Hyerdalh's use of the NC173 on his expediton in 1948 on the Natonal forum  the thread spilled over to the value of SWL ing for youths of the 1950'

Don fowarded a link to a list of stations starting in the vlf range and going up . I found this very informative so I want to share with the lowfer group. 

Enjoy. 
Paul k5wms


----- Forwarded message from "Dan Ferguson" <k4voa at zerobeat.org> -----
      Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:47:36 -0400
      From: Dan Ferguson <k4voa at zerobeat.org>
      Reply-To: Dan Ferguson <k4voa at zerobeat.org>
      Subject: Re: [National] KON TIKI
      To: k5wms at centurytel.net, National Radio Equipment <national at mailman.qth.net>

I regularly post to the Yahoo group "swskeds" a spreadsheet (text file 
and Perseus userlist file, too) combining SWBC schedule data from a 
number of different sources.  For those who are not in the swskeds Yahoo 
group, I've posted a zip file containing all three versions at 
https://www.box.com/s/4d2oo9jlev6u7iuotr7a .  Enjoy. 

Dan




On 6/24/2013 10:30 PM, Paul Daulton wrote:
> Dont know the status of VOA and BBC now but SWBC should be of interest 
> to youths today. 


Paul Daulton K5WMS
beacon WMS 185.302 khz qrss30/slow 24/7
Jacksonville,Ar 72076
em34wu

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Tue Jun 25 08:02:03 2013
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 08:02:03 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Fw: Grimeton Radio/SAQ transmission - correction
Message-ID: <001d01ce719b$ce85ae20$6d01a8c0@DELL4>

Not sure if this has been cross posted here yet. Better safe than ...

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



----- Original Message ----- 
From: Lars K?lland 
To: A/Lars K?lland 
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 11:48 AM
Subject: Grimeton Radio/SAQ transmission - correction


(Corrected issue)

REMINDER!

 

 

We will remind you of the Grimeton Radio/SAQ transmissions on 17.2 kHz, CW, with the Alexanderson alternator on Sunday, June 30, 2013, ?Alexanderson Day", at 09:00 UTC and 12:00 UTC.

 

We will start tuning up some 30 minutes before message.

 

The radio station is open to visitors.

 

 

There will be activity on amateur radio frequencies with the call "SK6SAQ" from 08:00 to 09:00 UTC and 10:00 to 12:00 UTC.

 

Any of following frequencies:

- 14.035 kHz CW

- 14.215 kHz SSB

 


From wrcromwell at gmail.com  Tue Jun 25 09:12:38 2013
From: wrcromwell at gmail.com (Bill Cromwell)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 09:12:38 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Fw: Grimeton Radio/SAQ transmission - correction
In-Reply-To: <001d01ce719b$ce85ae20$6d01a8c0@DELL4>
References: <001d01ce719b$ce85ae20$6d01a8c0@DELL4>
Message-ID: <51C99746.6090102@gmail.com>

On 06/25/2013 08:02 AM, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
> ---snipped the SAQ Sked
>
> Any of following frequencies:
>
> - 14.035 kHz CW
>
> - 14.215 kHz SSB
>
>   
>
> >From 07:00 UTC also on:
>
> -   3.755 kHz SSB
>
>

Thanks for the SAQ Sked. I will try yet again. The included requote is 
in a hopefully recognizable error. 3.755 kHz is an audio frequency that 
might use a loudspeaker in place of an antenna. Since the message does 
say "amateur radio frequencies" I am guessing these should all read MHz 
instead of kHz. However, the SAQ frequency *is* kHz (17.2).

73,

Bill  KU8H

From hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 25 14:40:51 2013
From: hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com (Laurence KL1 X)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:40:51 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] RFI filters (AC) 110V - Dof fence without the fence
Message-ID: <BLU177-W4411F6432208155CDE1414CF8B0@phx.gbl>

Im being plagued with noise from these dang Innotek fenceless dog devices that use a buried loop antennae and run at around 8-15KHz or so - trouble is they produce "pop pop pop pop pop" sounds on every say 8Khz with a say 5Hz Repetition rate or so  up thru LF MF and into SW -
 
 I just dont know how they can be FCC part 15 compliant but people tend to bury these single wire loop close to utility lines, and they then couple to these producing a reasonable effective array.  I now have three within 0.5 miles radii - 
Listening to Medium wave in the streets where these units are just in tolerable - 
 
Ive attacked these by befriending the neighbors and adding suitable inline chokes on the loop itself (total 1mH with 0.5mH on each outlet of the loop) reducing the noise somewhat but still the unit is still coupling RF back thru its power supply into the 110V socket somewhat - 
 
Im looking for a simple in line 3 pin typical USA style plug and socketed single RFI type AC 110V filter which has some decent reactance at LF and MF probably a 5A rating would do (!)- 
 
I can see hoards of wired, terminalled Allan Bradleys or Corcoms out there but beyond a multi ported MFJ expensive unit that say it filters RF I cant see a lot I can purchase.  Any pointers on manufacturers beyond Tripp-Lites chaps?
 
Laurence KL 1 X
 		 	   		  

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Jun 29 15:16:07 2013
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 15:16:07 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ reminder
Message-ID: <000f01ce74fd$1b762ac0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Tomorrow morning 0900 and 1200Z ... with tune up ahead of those times.

Just replaced the J310 in the e probe and signals are back to normal levels here ... numerous 
Tstorms rolling through here on an almost daily basis the likely culprit.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 


From kd5byb at kd5byb.net  Sat Jun 29 16:32:05 2013
From: kd5byb at kd5byb.net (kd5byb at kd5byb.net)
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 13:32:05 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ reminder
Message-ID: <20130629133205.221753b8912a6762b1021bc254014d1d.bb2a316e43.wbe@email06.secureserver.net>

Hi Jay,

Thanks for posting this!  I'm in the process of getting my PA0RDT
mini-whip set up.  I don't know if I have much of a chance of hearing it
in Northern Alabama, but I'll crank up the RBA, RBL, and the Rycom just
to see what I can hear...

thanks much and 73,
ben, kd5byb

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ reminder
From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
Date: Sat, June 29, 2013 2:16 pm
To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>

Tomorrow morning 0900 and 1200Z ... with tune up ahead of those times.

Just replaced the J310 in the e probe and signals are back to normal
levels here ... numerous 
Tstorms rolling through here on an almost daily basis the likely
culprit.

Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 

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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Jun 29 17:09:16 2013
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 17:09:16 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ reminder
References: <20130629133205.221753b8912a6762b1021bc254014d1d.bb2a316e43.wbe@email06.secureserver.net>
Message-ID: <000801ce750c$ea786860$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Ben

It's always worth a try ... if you don't mind getting up early ;~). Surprisingly, my best all time 
reception of SAQ was in the summer months - not the winter as I had always expected.

Not sure how much listening you've done 'down there' ... but a list of 'targets' is available at 
http://www.w1vd.com/vlf.html . A  look at what is showing up here, as of a few minutes ago,  is up 
on Grabber 2 at http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html .

GL on SAQ!

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <kd5byb at kd5byb.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] SAQ reminder


> Hi Jay,
>
> Thanks for posting this!  I'm in the process of getting my PA0RDT
> mini-whip set up.  I don't know if I have much of a chance of hearing it
> in Northern Alabama, but I'll crank up the RBA, RBL, and the Rycom just
> to see what I can hear...
>
> thanks much and 73,
> ben, kd5byb
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ reminder
> From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
> Date: Sat, June 29, 2013 2:16 pm
> To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>
> Tomorrow morning 0900 and 1200Z ... with tune up ahead of those times.
>
> Just replaced the J310 in the e probe and signals are back to normal
> levels here ... numerous
> Tstorms rolling through here on an almost daily basis the likely
> culprit.
>
> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2
>
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From hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com  Sat Jun 29 20:39:55 2013
From: hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com (Laurence KL1 X)
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:39:55 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ reminder
In-Reply-To: <000801ce750c$ea786860$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <20130629133205.221753b8912a6762b1021bc254014d1d.bb2a316e43.wbe@email06.secureserver.net>,
	<000801ce750c$ea786860$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <BLU177-W66E58A322038235397C8CCF700@phx.gbl>

Ill have one minute loads of SAQ to http://kl7uk.com/Alaska.html

Scroll down to the VLF screens -  hope my internet holds up as its been a little iffy

73

Laurence KL7 L  (pse note change in callsign from KL 1X)



> From: jrusgrove at comcast.net
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 17:09:16 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] SAQ reminder
> 
> Ben
> 
> It's always worth a try ... if you don't mind getting up early ;~). Surprisingly, my best all time 
> reception of SAQ was in the summer months - not the winter as I had always expected.
> 
> Not sure how much listening you've done 'down there' ... but a list of 'targets' is available at 
> http://www.w1vd.com/vlf.html . A  look at what is showing up here, as of a few minutes ago,  is up 
> on Grabber 2 at http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html .
> 
> GL on SAQ!
> 
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <kd5byb at kd5byb.net>
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp;UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 4:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] SAQ reminder
> 
> 
> > Hi Jay,
> >
> > Thanks for posting this!  I'm in the process of getting my PA0RDT
> > mini-whip set up.  I don't know if I have much of a chance of hearing it
> > in Northern Alabama, but I'll crank up the RBA, RBL, and the Rycom just
> > to see what I can hear...
> >
> > thanks much and 73,
> > ben, kd5byb
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ reminder
> > From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
> > Date: Sat, June 29, 2013 2:16 pm
> > To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> >
> > Tomorrow morning 0900 and 1200Z ... with tune up ahead of those times.
> >
> > Just replaced the J310 in the e probe and signals are back to normal
> > levels here ... numerous
> > Tstorms rolling through here on an almost daily basis the likely
> > culprit.
> >
> > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________
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From kd5byb at kd5byb.net  Sun Jun 30 06:01:28 2013
From: kd5byb at kd5byb.net (kd5byb at kd5byb.net)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 03:01:28 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ reminder
Message-ID: <20130630030128.221753b8912a6762b1021bc254014d1d.0fe207f2c7.wbe@email06.secureserver.net>

Hi Jay and list,

For something like this - I don't mind getting up early at all! 
Unfortunately, I didn't hear a thing.  Not on Spectrum Lab, not on the
Rycom, not on the RBL-5.

NAU, NML, NLK, NAA, NPM, and NWM were all coming in strong, so I know my
PA0RDT was working properly as was the Rycom / Spectrum Lab.

Oh well!  I'll try again next time.

thanks much and 73,
ben, kd5byb

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] SAQ reminder
From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
Date: Sat, June 29, 2013 4:09 pm
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands"
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>

Ben

It's always worth a try ... if you don't mind getting up early ;~).
Surprisingly, my best all time 
reception of SAQ was in the summer months - not the winter as I had
always expected.

Not sure how much listening you've done 'down there' ... but a list of
'targets' is available at 
http://www.w1vd.com/vlf.html . A look at what is showing up here, as of
a few minutes ago, is up 
on Grabber 2 at http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html .

GL on SAQ!

Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2


From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 30 06:42:55 2013
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 10:42:55 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ reminder
In-Reply-To: <20130630030128.221753b8912a6762b1021bc254014d1d.0fe207f2c7.wbe@email06.secureserver.net>
References: <20130630030128.221753b8912a6762b1021bc254014d1d.0fe207f2c7.wbe@email06.secureserver.net>
Message-ID: <CAE89MiTvoWO18a4iU6auuXT7=fYNF2bv=sadjRUTEy3ZhmYjhQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'll try at the 1200 time but here is how it looks a few minutes ago
Lloyd W3NF


On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:01 AM, <kd5byb at kd5byb.net> wrote:

> Hi Jay and list,
>
> For something like this - I don't mind getting up early at all!
> Unfortunately, I didn't hear a thing.  Not on Spectrum Lab, not on the
> Rycom, not on the RBL-5.
>
> NAU, NML, NLK, NAA, NPM, and NWM were all coming in strong, so I know my
> PA0RDT was working properly as was the Rycom / Spectrum Lab.
>
> Oh well!  I'll try again next time.
>
> thanks much and 73,
> ben, kd5byb
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] SAQ reminder
> From: <jrusgrove at comcast.net>
> Date: Sat, June 29, 2013 4:09 pm
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands"
> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>
> Ben
>
> It's always worth a try ... if you don't mind getting up early ;~).
> Surprisingly, my best all time
> reception of SAQ was in the summer months - not the winter as I had
> always expected.
>
> Not sure how much listening you've done 'down there' ... but a list of
> 'targets' is available at
> http://www.w1vd.com/vlf.html . A look at what is showing up here, as of
> a few minutes ago, is up
> on Grabber 2 at http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html .
>
> GL on SAQ!
>
> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2
>
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From planophore at aei.ca  Sun Jun 30 08:42:38 2013
From: planophore at aei.ca (Graham)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 12:42:38 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ reminder
In-Reply-To: <BLU177-W66E58A322038235397C8CCF700@phx.gbl>
References: <20130629133205.221753b8912a6762b1021bc254014d1d.bb2a316e43.wbe@email06.secureserver.net>,
	<000801ce750c$ea786860$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<BLU177-W66E58A322038235397C8CCF700@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <51D027BE.3000303@aei.ca>

I set everything up to monitor 17.2 this morning, nothing heard nor seen 
on Spectrum Lab at the appointed times.

I did however monitor via the pa3weg WebSDR and copied the message by hand.

/CQ DE SAQ  =

THIS IS GRIMETON RADIO/SAQ IN A TRANSMISSION SIGN THE ALEXANDERSON 200 
KW ALTERNATOR ON 17.2 KHZ =

TODAY WE REMEMBER ONE HUNDRED YEARS AGO WHEN THE FIRST REGULAR TIME 
SIGNAL FOR SHIPPING ETC WAS TRANSMITTED
VIA ARLINGTON RADIO/NAA, USA AND VIA EIFFEL TOWER/FL, PARIS =

SIGNED:  THE ALEXANDER =

GRIMETON VETERANRADIOS VAENNER ASSOCIATION AND WORLD HERITAGE GRIMETON.

FOR QSL INFO PLEASE READ OUR WEBSITE : WWW.ALEXANDER.N.SE II 
WWW.ALEXANDER.N.SE =

DE SAQ SK/

Also of note, I am still monitoring via the WebSDR and just heard RDL 
transmit a short message in CW (FSK CW actually) on 18.1 Khz at 12:38 UTC

cheers, Graham ve3gtc


On 13-06-30 12:39 AM, Laurence KL1 X wrote:
> Ill have one minute loads of SAQ to http://kl7uk.com/Alaska.html
>
> Scroll down to the VLF screens -  hope my internet holds up as its been a little iffy
>
> 73
>
> Laurence KL7 L  (pse note change in callsign from KL 1X)
>
>


From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sun Jun 30 09:23:14 2013
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 09:23:14 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ transmission 30JUN2013
Message-ID: <001301ce7594$f9dd1bb0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

First session weak copy due to high static levels. Second session rivaled all time best reception of 
SAQ due to significantly lower static and was the best reception of SAQ since 7/3/2011.  A short 
.mp3 of the reception can be found at  http://www.w1vd.com/SAQ063013.mp3 . The clip is divided in 
two parts - the first during the 'tune up' with nice frequency excursion and second during the 
message.

Receiving setup as usual: Modified Amrad e probe > audio LNA > Delta 44 A/D > Spectrum Laboratory.

Jay Rusgrove W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
Burlington CT




From w1tag at charter.net  Sun Jun 30 09:40:53 2013
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 09:40:53 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ reminder
In-Reply-To: <000f01ce74fd$1b762ac0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <000f01ce74fd$1b762ac0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <0646A9FD-5125-4493-99DF-E369A1234695@charter.net>

Copied the tuneup to 1200Z fairly well with the Rycom and headphones here at the Maine QTH. But the SNR from the static clicks just wasn't good enough to get more than pieces of the message. It's the old thing - the brain fills in the missing pieces in a repetitive signal. At home with more gadgets, this might have been pretty good. 

John, W1TAG

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 29, 2013, at 3:16 PM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> Tomorrow's herb morning 0900 and 1200Z ... with tune up ahead of those times.
> 
> Just replaced the J310 in the e probe and signals are back to normal levels here ... numerous Tstorms rolling through here on an almost daily basis the likely culprit.
> 
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2 
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From kd5byb at kd5byb.net  Sun Jun 30 09:52:43 2013
From: kd5byb at kd5byb.net (kd5byb at kd5byb.net)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 06:52:43 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ reminder
Message-ID: <20130630065243.221753b8912a6762b1021bc254014d1d.0e024efd3e.wbe@email06.secureserver.net>

Nothing at all heard here in Northern Alabama at either time regardless
of receiver used - Spectrum Lab, RBL-5, and Rycom 6020.

Oh well, will try again at Christmas time.  ;)

thanks much and 73,
ben, kd5byb

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] SAQ reminder
From: John Andrews <w1tag at charter.net>
Date: Sun, June 30, 2013 8:40 am
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &amp; UK) and MedFer bands"
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>

Copied the tuneup to 1200Z fairly well with the Rycom and headphones
here at the Maine QTH. But the SNR from the static clicks just wasn't
good enough to get more than pieces of the message. It's the old thing -
the brain fills in the missing pieces in a repetitive signal. At home
with more gadgets, this might have been pretty good. 

John, W1TAG

Sent from my iPad


From wrcromwell at gmail.com  Sun Jun 30 09:57:14 2013
From: wrcromwell at gmail.com (Bill Cromwell)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 09:57:14 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ transmission 30JUN2013 - limited success
In-Reply-To: <001301ce7594$f9dd1bb0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <001301ce7594$f9dd1bb0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <51D0393A.8050501@gmail.com>

On 06/30/2013 09:23 AM, jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
> First session weak copy due to high static levels. Second session 
> rivaled all time best reception of SAQ due to significantly lower 
> static and was the best reception of SAQ since 7/3/2011.  A short .mp3 
> of the reception can be found at http://www.w1vd.com/SAQ063013.mp3 . 
> The clip is divided in two parts - the first during the 'tune up' with 
> nice frequency excursion and second during the message.
>
> Receiving setup as usual: Modified Amrad e probe > audio LNA > Delta 
> 44 A/D > Spectrum Laboratory.
>
> Jay Rusgrove W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> Burlington CT

Jay,

Thanks for the MP3. I awoke at 04:30 Eastern time and slipped into the 
shack, turned on the already tuned and waiting RAK-7 and took my big dog 
outside. Within a few minutes I had Spectran up and a faint trace on the 
waterfall (several traces). I believe one was SAQ .. complete with that 
"frequency excursion". SAQ had competition - QRM immediately adjacent 
almost right on top of him. Somebody's home appliance? I was able to see 
and hear that the signal was CW. Lasted a few minutes and then off. The 
other signal remained. I have a SAQ.wav file for later attempts at 
further processing. Maybe play it back in Spectran with the notch filter 
set on the QRM - duh. Why didn't I think of that when I was trying to 
pull SAQ out live? Too early in the morning and without coffee (evil grin).

With your MP3 as a comparison, the tones I could barely hear, fading and 
with QRM sounded like the ones in your copy. RAK-7 does not have a 
digital display nor a digital display output. Only a logging dial (but 
quite easily repeatable). I've become intimately familiar with those and 
the tuning charts for them over the past 35 years. I'm very sure I had 
17.2 kc on my Spectran display (along with QRM). This is the first time 
I used any kind of digital enhancement in the SAQ attempt and the first 
time I had any success at all. Now I'm encouraged to try *more*.

Now looking at "active antenna" designs.

73,

Bill  KU8H

From dexter.mc at gmail.com  Sun Jun 30 10:14:12 2013
From: dexter.mc at gmail.com (Dexter McIntyre W4DEX)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 10:14:12 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ transmission 30JUN2013
In-Reply-To: <001301ce7594$f9dd1bb0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <001301ce7594$f9dd1bb0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <51D03D34.20809@gmail.com>

jrusgrove at comcast.net wrote:
> Second session rivaled all time best reception of SAQ due to 
> significantly lower static and was the best reception of SAQ since 
> 7/3/2011.
Excellent copy Jay!  No signal detected here probably due to lack of 
expertise more so than noise or propagation.  Where in respect to 
surrounding objects do you have the e-probe mounted?

Dex

From clive at ancient-mariner.co.uk  Sun Jun 30 11:34:32 2013
From: clive at ancient-mariner.co.uk (Clive S Carver)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 15:34:32 -0000
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ
In-Reply-To: <51D027BE.3000303@aei.ca>
References: <20130629133205.221753b8912a6762b1021bc254014d1d.bb2a316e43.wbe@email06.secureserver.net>,
	<000801ce750c$ea786860$6401a8c0@JAYDELL><BLU177-W66E58A322038235397C8CCF700@phx.gbl>
	<51D027BE.3000303@aei.ca>
Message-ID: <999E494DFDF541848BFD2A484987526E@Study>

I think that today's SAQ transmissions were the best that I have ever
received here in Hawarden, north Wales UK 53-11-44N 03-01-42W using a RF
Space SDR-IQ and a PA0RDT mini-whip.

Both 0900z and 1200z transmissions copied by ear with 100% copy.

Signal strength as indicated on SpectraVue had SAQ the same as NAA on 24.0
kHz and DCF77 on 77.5 kHz

CQ DE SAQ =

THIS IS GRIMETON RADIO/SAQ IN A TRANSMISSION USING THE ALEXANDERSON 200KW
ALTERNATOR ON 17.2 KHZ =

TODAY WE REMEMBER ONE HUNDRED YEARS AGO WHEN THE FIRST REGULAR TIME SIGNAL
FOR SHIPPING ETC WAS TRANSMITTED VIA ARLINGTON RADIO/NAA AND VIA EIFFEL
TOWER/FL =

SIGNED: THE ALEXANDER-GRIMETON VETERANRADIOS VAENER ASSOCIATION AND WORLD
HERITAGE GRIMETON.

FOR QSL INFO PLEASE READ OUR WEBSITE www.alexander.n.se
=
DE SAQ QRX AT 1200 UTC VA

73's

Clive
GW4EYO


From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 30 12:04:44 2013
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (lloyd chastant)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 16:04:44 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ transmission 30JUN2013
In-Reply-To: <001301ce7594$f9dd1bb0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <001301ce7594$f9dd1bb0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <CAE89MiS=3OEQcz2jtPGCiNtD5NS1SwkzqST8p2BBkJy1s797UQ@mail.gmail.com>

Nice jay..No copy here with the Wellbrook LF-1010 and Spectravue..pretty
noisy
Lloyd W3NF


On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:23 PM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> First session weak copy due to high static levels. Second session rivaled
> all time best reception of SAQ due to significantly lower static and was
> the best reception of SAQ since 7/3/2011.  A short .mp3 of the reception
> can be found at  http://www.w1vd.com/SAQ063013.**mp3<http://www.w1vd.com/SAQ063013.mp3>. The clip is divided in two parts - the first during the 'tune up' with
> nice frequency excursion and second during the message.
>
> Receiving setup as usual: Modified Amrad e probe > audio LNA > Delta 44
> A/D > Spectrum Laboratory.
>
> Jay Rusgrove W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> Burlington CT
>
>
>
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