From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct  1 08:17:48 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 07:17:48 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 518 kHz Navtex
Message-ID: <560D246C.6070909@sbcglobal.net>

Navtex transmissions on 518 kHz continue to be good. Area 4 decodes came 
from stations A,B,C,E,F,G,H,N,Q,R,and U. Bermuda still up and running 
with a hurricane bearing down was interesting. Area 12 decodes came from 
stations H,Q, and W. That was the first message from Tofino, H (HB72 at 
1105Z) since last spring.

There was activity again last night from WH2XND on 136 kHz WSPR-2.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From listread at lwca.org  Thu Oct  1 14:30:22 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 13:30:22 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] NPRM Filings Done
References: <560D246C.6070909@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <D573D25DE6A740208BE5FD7C252EEDF3@HPNOTEBOOK>

Unless there are any paper filings yet to convert to PDF files, the public 
record in the LF/MF rulemaking proceeding is now complete.

As many observers expected, Utilities Telecom Council waited until the last 
possible second to file a Reply.  I can testify to that because one of my 
own was literally in the last possible minute, and theirs was received after 
mine.  Mine was nearly late because I am a slow typist on tiny modern 
keyboards, not because I wanted to get the last word...or tell fibs that no 
one would then have the opportunity to contradict.  I'm not saying that they 
did that, exactly, but I expect they must be experiencing some warmth in the 
trouser region today, or at least some nasal swelling.

And that nose would be camel-shaped as viewed from a tent flap, because they 
took the opportunity to introduce some topics that properly belonged in 
their original Comments on the FCC notice, where they could have been 
commented upon.  One example: Their so-called "reply" was the first mention 
by any respondent in the proceeding to the FCC's question about possible 
future use of PLC-like apparatus on _distribution_ lines, rather than 
transmission lines which already have special status under Part 15.  That 
shouldn't have even been part of this proceeding, but the FCC brought it up, 
so it would have been fair game in original comments...but not a reply, 
since no one else had mentioned it since that time.

Also, it was the first time they outlined their concept of what 
amateur-industry coordination should be like.  This too was improper, 
because it should have been in their original comments.  Basically, they 
want to REQUIRE coordination before any and all amateur LF operation from a 
new location--and WITHOUT any deadline for a response.  We decline to 
respond, you don't get to go on the air.  Problem solved.

How does that constitute spectrum "sharing?"  Alas, we don't get a chance to 
ask that formally now, so we will have to trust the FCC to sort it all out.

If you've safely digested lunch now, you can read the UTC reply and all 
others posted to date at the FCC ECFS page, or at 
http://lwca.org/Docket15-99 as well.

John 
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct  1 20:39:34 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 19:39:34 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer SIW QRV
Message-ID: <560DD246.2050607@sbcglobal.net>

With help of Bob, NK9M we got lowfer SIW running again from EN51uq. The 
schedule is still 185.2993 kHz QRSS30/60 on M,W,F and 185.185... kHz 
slash code on T,Th,Sa,Su. Switching time is 1800Z.

Last season the slash code dashes bottomed out prematurely and I thought 
that might be because one op amp was running unregulated. Now all op 
amps are regulated and despite good behavior on the bench both dits and 
dahs are crimped in the field. So much for progress! Maybe next year 
I'll program a Raspberry2 uP to do the job and get rid of those touchy 
op amps (especially so when one runs them off a single supply). The 
symbol period has been increased to 5 minutes so it takes quite awhile 
to send "SIW".

Hope the watering hole has more company by the time LF reception gets 
really good. I'm already decoded Newfoundland on 288 kHz and Maine on 
316 kHz DGPS tonight. NDB DF in Newfoundland on 350 kHz is also doing 
well. A good sign.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct  2 08:39:11 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 07:39:11 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WH2XND
Message-ID: <560E7AEF.8030204@sbcglobal.net>

WH2XND was on 136 kHz WSPR-2 briefly last night but either conditions 
were very subpar or there were equipment problems. Only got 3 weak 
decodes around 0300Z. It showed up fine on 474.2 kHz WSPR-2 later.
-- 
Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Fri Oct  2 15:58:41 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 15:58:41 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Daylight  SIW
In-Reply-To: <560DD246.2050607@sbcglobal.net>
References: <560DD246.2050607@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <CD61CA7F87EF40E6863BE9770DA591C0@MichaelSappPC>

Garry & All:  SIW peaking around -57 ~ -58 in ARGO QRSS30 slow this 
afternoon,  EN51uq > EN90xn 728km ~ 437 miles....  Acer netbook with 16bit 
internal sound card and FT-817 with TXCO-9 for IF with my Mini Circuits RAY6 
DBM based LF converter...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4xt6svb4m8j71ax/SIWO215.JPG?dl=0

It would be interesting to see who else has a copy at the start of the 
season....

73, Mike wa3tts

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garry Hess" <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>
To: "lowfer list" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 8:39 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer SIW QRV


> With help of Bob, NK9M we got lowfer SIW running again from EN51uq. The
> schedule is still 185.2993 kHz QRSS30/60 on M,W,F and 185.185... kHz
> slash code on T,Th,Sa,Su. Switching time is 1800Z.


From ponybike at hotmail.com  Fri Oct  2 17:55:05 2015
From: ponybike at hotmail.com (Chuck Hays)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 21:55:05 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] NPRM Filings Done
In-Reply-To: <mailman.208.1443789568.2315.lowfer@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.208.1443789568.2315.lowfer@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <SNT152-W150783E181BC92C279BBB6C24B0@phx.gbl>


> From: "JD" 

> As many observers expected, Utilities Telecom Council waited until the last 
> possible second to file a Reply.

Looked to me from the latest ARRL letter received after your email that
the League might have fired a couple of shots across their bow.

I'd expect the next shot will be from the FCC, and get UTC below the
waterline.

We'll see. Thanks for all your hard work on this file!

Chuck
VE7PJR/WB7PJR
 		 	   		  

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Fri Oct  2 17:56:00 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 17:56:00 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Daylight  SIW
In-Reply-To: <01418E3821D94DB4B8B33A8986FDDFC7@HPNOTEBOOK>
References: <560DD246.2050607@sbcglobal.net>
	<CD61CA7F87EF40E6863BE9770DA591C0@MichaelSappPC>
	<01418E3821D94DB4B8B33A8986FDDFC7@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <1D2BB5DFA4594EEF886763D2764E6DBD@MichaelSappPC>

FB JD.... SIW coming in a bit better here in EN90xn late afternoon --- which 
is not the norm here from past few years. Usually SIW fades out late 
afternoon .... (or the noise comes up or both )

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8y5d9kynh97j527/siwo2b.jpg?dl=0


73, Mike wa3tts


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JD" <listread at lwca.org>
To: "Michael Sapp" <wa3tts at verizon.net>
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Daylight SIW


> Copy here too today in SE Kansas, though just barely with static from the 
> east side of the Rockies. Caught the transition of frequency and modes a 
> few minutes past 1800 UTC.  Will post a picture of that this evening. 
> (Hope to have the ability to do that from the field before too many more 
> weeks!)
>
> John 


From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  2 18:55:14 2015
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 15:55:14 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] Daylight  SIW
Message-ID: <1443826514.27902.YahooMailBasic@web125303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

On Fri, 10/2/15, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:

>> SIW coming in a bit better here in EN90xn late afternoon --- which is not the norm 
>> here from past few years. Usually SIW fades out late afternoon .... 
>> (or the noise comes up or both )
 
 73, Mike wa3tts
________________________________________________________________

Mike: .... Don't rule out your recent noise reduction efforts, and noise lowering grounding..
That can make all the difference in the world in reception that " Used to, didn't happen " ..

73 : Andy - KU4XR
 



From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct  2 20:05:22 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 19:05:22 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Daylight SIW
Message-ID: <560F1BC2.4020104@sbcglobal.net>

Mike and John,

Thanks very much for the reports. Glad the lowfer is getting out well 
and hope it stays that way. It just needs some company, hi.

-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From listread at lwca.org  Sat Oct  3 02:50:46 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 01:50:46 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Daylight SIW
References: <560F1BC2.4020104@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <F1989E1118794E069F9E7FB6B6AB747B@HPNOTEBOOK>

Not bad for early October!  I barely got to the field in time for the 
changeover today, but at least the noise wasn't too bad...and it actually 
got better during the afternoon.  Captures in a message at:

http://lwca.org/mb/msg/5398.htm 


From listread at lwca.org  Sat Oct  3 02:52:58 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 01:52:58 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Daylight  MP
References: <560DD246.2050607@sbcglobal.net>
	<CD61CA7F87EF40E6863BE9770DA591C0@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <061111B9BC3346FA9D79D0242F11AAAF@HPNOTEBOOK>

MP was solid all afternoon Friday.  Here are simultaneous views at QRSS30 
and 60.

John 
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct  3 08:20:08 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 07:20:08 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 518 kHz Navtex
Message-ID: <560FC7F8.7010409@sbcglobal.net>

Another good night here for Navtex decodes. Again, Tofino, BC decoded a 
message - HB32 at 1057Z. Astoria, OR also produced a couple of messages 
around 0740Z. Up on 474.2 kHz WSPR, far west stations VE7BDQ, WH2XGP, 
WH2XND, and WD2XSH/20 all decoded often. No activity was noticed on 136 
kHz WSPR.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From listread at lwca.org  Sat Oct  3 14:00:40 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 13:00:40 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 518 kHz Navtex
References: <560FC7F8.7010409@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <5E0F949002A04B28B8D527C251F81022@HPNOTEBOOK>

Out of curiosity, has anyone noticed any improvement (or worsening) in 
overlap of transmission times now that the Coast Guard has gone to a single 
master control point?

From listread at lwca.org  Sat Oct  3 18:14:46 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 17:14:46 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Daylight SIW
References: <560F1BC2.4020104@sbcglobal.net>
	<F1989E1118794E069F9E7FB6B6AB747B@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <BEB791163B5F404D9B361E65298F0D23@HPNOTEBOOK>

Today' results are at:

http://lwca.org/mb/msg/5405.htm

Don't have time to comment on them just yet, but apart from the radio taking 
over two hourss to warm up today (!) they're mostly self-explanatory.

John 

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sat Oct  3 22:12:59 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2015 22:12:59 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Daylight SIW
In-Reply-To: <BEB791163B5F404D9B361E65298F0D23@HPNOTEBOOK>
References: <560F1BC2.4020104@sbcglobal.net>
	<F1989E1118794E069F9E7FB6B6AB747B@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<BEB791163B5F404D9B361E65298F0D23@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <9C1A048502C74C179E2BDF3D94D7D746@MichaelSappPC>

JD & All:   Caught SIW around 1800 UTC switch over. Did not start new ARGO 
screen so the freq scale only applies to after 1800UTC....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/obzyczcudz8h4s1/oddsiw.jpg?dl=0

I had the furnace on for awhile so a mHz or two thermal drift is apparent. 
Unknown signal below .184 likely local En90xn source....

SIW went QRT around 2100UTC for maintenance, ( according to Garry, to shield 
the op amps from RF)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/l7o59r0c9p3arkh/oddsiw2.jpg?dl=0

I switched over to WSPR2 630m so I do not know if SIW back OTA....

73  Mike wa3tts

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JD" <listread at lwca.org>
To: "lowfer list" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Daylight SIW


> Today' results are at:
>
> http://lwca.org/mb/msg/5405.htm
>
> Don't have time to comment on them just yet, but apart from the radio 
> taking
> over two hourss to warm up today (!) they're mostly self-explanatory.
>
> John
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From listread at lwca.org  Sun Oct  4 00:53:01 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 23:53:01 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Daylight SIW
References: <560F1BC2.4020104@sbcglobal.net>
	<F1989E1118794E069F9E7FB6B6AB747B@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<BEB791163B5F404D9B361E65298F0D23@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<9C1A048502C74C179E2BDF3D94D7D746@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <34A62ED48FFB4DD69CC45677B6FA1922@HPNOTEBOOK>

>>> SIW went QRT around 2100UTC for maintenance

OK, that accounts for its disappearance, then.  It happened not long after 
completion of the second ID of the day on 185.185.  I wasn't sure if it was 
off, or if the slight increase in QRN here as evening approached was just 
too much.  I finally shut down, packed up, and retreated to town for warmth 
and supper just before sunset.  Will look again tomorrow.

John 


From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct  4 05:48:16 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 04:48:16 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 518 kHz Navtex
Message-ID: <5610F5E0.7030100@sbcglobal.net>

JD, I don't sense any significant difference. To me the problem hasn't 
been startup (although in this age of GPS it's surprising how stations 
often took several minutes into their 10 minute windows to key up). 
Rather, the problem has been transmitting well past the end of the 
assigned 10 minute windows. That continues. For example, this morning 
the first message from area 4 station G is timestamped 0900:24. The last 
message is timestamped 0917:16. Only because station H is close does a 
message from it timestamped 0912:11 make it through. Yes, the current 
hurricane situation may legitimately lead to longer message content for 
some stations, but grossly exceeding 10 minute windows is the norm, not 
the exception. And because of that decoding messages from more distant 
stations whose windows are next becomes very unlikely.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct  4 07:59:31 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 06:59:31 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Daylight SIW
Message-ID: <561114A3.3040505@sbcglobal.net>

JD, Mike, et al,

Bob, NK9M connected a dummy load to the lowfer and the slash code 
waveform then looked fine, proving the clipping when live was caused by 
RF coupling to the dead-bug op amp circuitry. He then tried placing a 
steel plate between the beacon box and the antenna and managed to get 
the dots looking correct again. Dashes are still poor but Bob will try 
repositioning the plate to see if they can be returned to normal too.

-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct  4 11:59:39 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 10:59:39 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Daylight SIW
Message-ID: <56114CEB.4020704@sbcglobal.net>

Here's a current argo capture at QRSS120 using an eprobe/sdr-iq. Some 
+/- close-in image artifacts come through this way.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From listread at lwca.org  Sun Oct  4 12:58:03 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 11:58:03 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Daylight SIW
References: <56114CEB.4020704@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <6B2A2EED41354BB9B248F931F86C90A6@HPNOTEBOOK>

Set everything up at the farm a few minutes ago and noticed that the 
waveform indeed no longer flat-tops, though it still bottoms out. That's 
progress. Very little QRN today, so the signal is looking quite clean.

I'll probably try for EAR briefly this afternoon if the noise remains 
favorable.

It'd be great if some of the Part 5 guys had a chance to fire up in the 
vicinity of MP this afternoon, too, and take advantage of the groundwave 
opportunity.

John 

From listread at lwca.org  Sun Oct  4 13:01:23 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 12:01:23 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 518 kHz Navtex
References: <5610F5E0.7030100@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <8EF9E940CAAB4818AEE0EC23DB79C091@HPNOTEBOOK>

That's what I was wondering, Garry.  Sort of hoped having one control point 
might improve both the start times and the tendency to overrun, but 
apparently not.

John 

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sun Oct  4 19:40:39 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2015 19:40:39 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Daylight SIW
In-Reply-To: <56114CEB.4020704@sbcglobal.net>
References: <56114CEB.4020704@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4DC3BD80672B4FCF8304B948C1623171@MichaelSappPC>

Garry:  A late afternoon/early evening capture.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cd2hfaqaflcjo7n/siw0415.jpg?dl=0

Signals were lighter in the 1600~1800UTC time frame, more like -70 vs -67 
to -68 peaks in ARGO QRSS60 slow

later in the afternoon....

73, Mike wa3tts


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garry Hess" <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>
To: "lowfer list" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Daylight SIW


> Here's a current argo capture at QRSS120 using an eprobe/sdr-iq. Some
> +/- close-in image artifacts come through this way.
> -- 
> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
>


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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sun Oct  4 23:44:53 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2015 23:44:53 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] DK7FC in EN90xn
Message-ID: <0092CE7AB2444C88AF5468C0AAB0066B@MichaelSappPC>

Stefan & All: Finally a 630m decode at 0322.....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7dfwnxapi3cjwxd/IMG_4622.JPG?dl=0

Small shopping plaza 300 meters or so to my NE likely source of carriers and other noise....

73 Mike wa3tts

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Mon Oct  5 00:43:09 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 00:43:09 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] DH5RAE in EN90xn
Message-ID: <E2EF3F1F464C463B99B5BB8499AD7007@MichaelSappPC>

Josef & All: Two captures of DH5RAE in EN90xn....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvkihendx9nnt6p/IMG_4625.JPG?dl=0

73 Mike wa3tts

From n8tl at woh.rr.com  Mon Oct  5 07:46:37 2015
From: n8tl at woh.rr.com (n8tl)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 11:46:37 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] 630M MF WSPR Data - 05Oct15
Message-ID: <5612631D.8000106@woh.rr.com>

Last night's copy for 630M....lots of stations, but, nothing from across 
the pond!  Excellent captures Mike!!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3og9nct8tqnjosx/630M%20MF%20Data%20-%2005Oct15?dl=0


Tom N8TL

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct  6 07:27:14 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 06:27:14 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 518 kHz Navtex
Message-ID: <5613B012.2050906@sbcglobal.net>

LF conditions have been quiet here of late and propagation improving. 
West coast stations W, Astoria, OR; Q, Long Beach, CA; and H, Tofino, BC 
decoded over night. That has been the norm for several days, and station 
C in San Francisco also often decodes. But last night was surprised to 
find around 0833Z that 3 messages also decoded from area 15, station K 
in Puerto Montt, Chile.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Tue Oct  6 16:11:08 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2015 16:11:08 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Mid day MP EAR & SIW
Message-ID: <F341203AEF8C4DB296D31164DC6885B5@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All, Some mid day lowfers....

MP with CW ID sidebands....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ki0510rsk0lrqpz/MPO615.JPG?dl=0

EAR

https://www.dropbox.com/s/eojnr0lo9zq7f56/EARO615.JPG?dl=0

and SIW

https://www.dropbox.com/s/668yrrs8402pes6/siw0615.JPG?dl=0

73,  Mike wa3tts

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct  6 18:20:16 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 17:20:16 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Mid day MP EAR & SIW
Message-ID: <56144920.20606@sbcglobal.net>

Mike,

Thanks for the nice capture of mid-day lowfer SIW. Hope it keeps running 
well through the winter.

The long idle period (about 15 minuets) between Morse characters might 
help DX stations at least detect the signal when it's on 185.185 kHz. 
When Dex was key-down on 8.8 kHz awhile back that allowed the Spectrum 
Laboratory noise bandwidth to really be shrunk and I could then detect 
his signal.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From w1tag at charter.net  Thu Oct  8 14:48:13 2015
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 14:48:13 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] VE3OT!
Message-ID: <BE96FAE1-07F9-4C51-9BF3-82832051BC92@charter.net>

I'm sitting here in Maine watching 137.780 kHz, and the usual QRSS60 MP has been replaced by a QRSS3 VE3OT. Took me a while to figure out why the signal was so wide on a 60 second screen. This was captured on an Argo 3 second slow screen:

http://www.w1tag.com/files/VE3OT.jpg

John, W1TAG/1



From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct  8 16:24:28 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 15:24:28 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] VE3OT!
Message-ID: <5616D0FC.9080002@sbcglobal.net>

John, thanks for the alert. VE3OT is coming through here nicely in the 
daylight too (with CW ID just before the "V").
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From listread at lwca.org  Thu Oct  8 23:41:26 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 22:41:26 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] VE3OT!
References: <5616D0FC.9080002@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <5B22AABE97694974AEB7D78E2236A2E2@HPNOTEBOOK>

Congratulations!  There have been several times I've commented that MP was 
strong enough for QRSS3 copy. Didn't know about the current configuration 
until after I got home tonight, unfortunately.  Went back out to the field 
to look, but by then there were thunderstorms visible around nearly the 
entire northern half of the horizon, and so much static that QRSS60 wouldn't 
have made it through!  Will try to check tomorrow if the storms move out in 
time.

John 

From k2ors at verizon.net  Fri Oct  9 16:15:15 2015
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:15:15 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 513.5 CW On Ground Dipole ***New Balun ****
Message-ID: <56182053.1060102@verizon.net>

Trying the on-ground dipole again, this time with a new and more 
efficient balun.  CW on 513.5, hopefully far enough away in freq from 
NDB YWA.

  Reports welcome!

73 Warren K2ORS





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From w1tag at charter.net  Fri Oct  9 16:44:16 2015
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 16:44:16 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] [600MRG] WE2XGR/1 513.5 CW On Ground Dipole ***New
	Balun ****
In-Reply-To: <56182053.1060102@verizon.net>
References: <56182053.1060102@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <8A1E7A57-97D2-4255-9B7E-B8531E9AA1A9@charter.net>

Warren,

Nothing audibly or visually in Maine. A little over 100 mi, I think. 

John, W1TAG/1



> On Oct 9, 2015, at 4:15 PM, Warren K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> Trying the on-ground dipole again, this time with a new and more efficient balun.  CW on 513.5, hopefully far enough away in freq from NDB YWA.
> 
> Reports welcome!
> 
> 73 Warren K2ORS
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From hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com  Fri Oct  9 16:55:03 2015
From: hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com (Laurence KL7 L)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 12:55:03 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] [600MRG] WE2XGR/1 513.5 CW On Ground Dipole ***New
 Balun ****
In-Reply-To: <8A1E7A57-97D2-4255-9B7E-B8531E9AA1A9@charter.net>
References: <56182053.1060102@verizon.net>,
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Message-ID: <BLU185-W941503947E166D8BBECB09CF340@phx.gbl>

Warren interested to see what the impedance is at your height - I shoved up a full sized (bent!) 475kHz  dipole at around 20ft and was expecting around 12.5ohms but got 50 ohms!
 
 Didn't work for me but didn't test the low angle off the ends bit - I tx'd on it for a few reasonable condition nights but no decodes out of state -  Other people have done a lot better but perhaps I squeezed it a little bit too much or my ground etc  is playing with me. Dipole become a few more radials!
 
Laurence KL 7L 
 

 
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> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 16:44:16 -0400
> To: k2ors at verizon.net
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] [600MRG] WE2XGR/1 513.5 CW On Ground Dipole ***New	Balun ****
> 
> Warren,
> 
> Nothing audibly or visually in Maine. A little over 100 mi, I think. 
> 
> John, W1TAG/1
> 
> 
> 
> > On Oct 9, 2015, at 4:15 PM, Warren K2ORS <k2ors at verizon.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Trying the on-ground dipole again, this time with a new and more efficient balun.  CW on 513.5, hopefully far enough away in freq from NDB YWA.
> > 
> > Reports welcome!
> > 
> > 73 Warren K2ORS
> > 
> > 
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Fri Oct  9 17:28:54 2015
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 17:28:54 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 513.5 CW On Ground Dipole ***New Balun ****
References: <56182053.1060102@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <001c01d102d9$7fffbbc0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Warren

Maybe a bit stronger than your transmission on 9/28 ... sample from a few minutes ago at:

http://www.w1vd.com/WE2XGR100915B.mp3 .

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2


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From k2ors at verizon.net  Fri Oct  9 17:40:11 2015
From: k2ors at verizon.net (Warren K2ORS)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2015 17:40:11 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] WE2XGR/1 513.5 Now on Vertical
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From listread at lwca.org  Fri Oct  9 21:03:03 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 20:03:03 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] VE3OT!
References: <BE96FAE1-07F9-4C51-9BF3-82832051BC92@charter.net>
Message-ID: <B7CA60668408455A9356951B61BB7075@HPNOTEBOOK>

Noise was a lot lower this afternoon... averaging S3 instead of S9+... but 
still not like a quiet winter day. QRSS3 just didn't cut it over this 
distance.  From today's results, however, I might've gotten fair copy at 
QRSS10, and would certainly have had decent copy at QRSS30. The captures can 
be seen in this message board post:

http://lwca.org/mb/msg/5415.htm

John 


From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct 10 09:47:22 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 08:47:22 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 136 kHz WSPR-2
Message-ID: <561916EA.7090006@sbcglobal.net>

WG2XXM was active over night sending WSPR-2 on 136 kHz. SNR peaked at 
-16 dB here, not all that impressive and well below 474.2 kHz peaks, but 
it's now 1341Z and decodes at about -23 dB SNR are still occurring. 
SWLK9EN61 is reporting similar decodes too. Local sunrise is 1158Z. The 
1051 km path apparently can be copied via ground wave. In the past 
WD2XKO at similar distance has decoded in the daytime using QRSS30.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sat Oct 10 12:40:15 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 12:40:15 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] 136 kHz WSPR-2
In-Reply-To: <561916EA.7090006@sbcglobal.net>
References: <561916EA.7090006@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <80FDE85C2DE742C7A4C27FA43DD0BCF1@MichaelSappPC>

Garry & All:  I had several decodes of XXM last night on 137 kHz in the 
mid -20s SNR range. Unfortunately wspr-x made a few erroneous decodes in a 
row which booted me off the wspr dbase so the sunrise decodes did not get 
logged.  Unwelcome rf visitors made reception difficult overnight as shown 
below with an VE3OT capture from this morning....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zpsdikdm4qv3hp3/capt00027.jpg?dl=0

The local noise sources seem to be abating in mid-day.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/o7m1axx27dmcf4c/capt00043.jpg?dl=0

Issue seems to occur after a rain. Once whatever electrically-powered
nearby gremlins dry out, the noise seems to go away in a day or so.....


A few evenings ago I did get a piece of VO1NA in the early evening after 
sunset....before switching to wspr2 on 630m

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ydfb8d4ub3el9cy/capt00026.jpg?dl=0

73 Mike wa3tts


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Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 9:47 AM
Subject: [Lowfer] 136 kHz WSPR-2


> WG2XXM was active over night sending WSPR-2 on 136 kHz. SNR peaked at -16 
> dB here, not all that impressive and well below 474.2 kHz peaks, but it's 
> now 1341Z and decodes at about -23 dB SNR are still occurring. SWLK9EN61 
> is reporting similar decodes too. Local sunrise is 1158Z. The 1051 km path 
> apparently can be copied via ground wave. In the past WD2XKO at similar 
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From listread at lwca.org  Sat Oct 10 16:17:14 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 15:17:14 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 136 kHz WSPR-2...and VE3OT & SIW
References: <561916EA.7090006@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <DB66B9D0713345F1B555940638942C42@HPNOTEBOOK>

Is anyone using WSPR-15 at 2200 m these days?  WSPR-2 has about the same 
detection threshold as QRSS3, which certainly isn't working out very well 
here for VE3OT's daytime groundwave.

Less noise today, and SIW has been showing up on 1750 m very nicely--even 
partially visible at QRSS3 itself, for that matter--but the only part of 
VE3OT I'm able to copy visually at QRSS3 is the OT.  The rest of the ID has 
to be decoded in DT mode ("Deep Thought") with prior knowledge of the 
message.  The QRSS10 trace has been quite clear today, although it's too 
cramped to read, of course.

I'm about to go back to the field and wrap up the SIW captures.  After a 
little HiFER exploring, I will probably return to VE3OT and see what the 
transition to darkness brings.

John 

From listread at lwca.org  Sat Oct 10 19:52:07 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 18:52:07 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] VE3OT!
References: <BE96FAE1-07F9-4C51-9BF3-82832051BC92@charter.net>
	<B7CA60668408455A9356951B61BB7075@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <957575424F094A7EB830EFC53F2BC7B2@HPNOTEBOOK>

An hour and a half before sunset, VE3OT looked like this in SE Kansas, and 
was much the same just a few minutes ago. Will continue looking into the 
evening.

Any ideas about the mystery signal below Mitch?

JD 
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From williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 10 20:21:59 2015
From: williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com (Douglas Williams)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 20:21:59 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] 136 kHz WSPR-2...and VE3OT & SIW
In-Reply-To: <DB66B9D0713345F1B555940638942C42@HPNOTEBOOK>
References: <561916EA.7090006@sbcglobal.net>
	<DB66B9D0713345F1B555940638942C42@HPNOTEBOOK>
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On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 4:17 PM, JD <listread at lwca.org> wrote:

> Is anyone using WSPR-15 at 2200 m these days?  WSPR-2 has about the same
> detection threshold as QRSS3.



I am also curious about this. WSPR-15 seems so much more useful for
LF DX than WSPR-2.

From listread at lwca.org  Sun Oct 11 01:50:21 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 00:50:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] VE3OT!
References: <BE96FAE1-07F9-4C51-9BF3-82832051BC92@charter.net><B7CA60668408455A9356951B61BB7075@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<957575424F094A7EB830EFC53F2BC7B2@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <8B6B76D4AC1F4673BF8FA0512ED58587@HPNOTEBOOK>

Here's the very best one of the day Saturday, only about 20 minutes before 
sunset.  Once it started getting dark, the QRN increased and made QRSS3 
unreadable and 10 highly doubtful, although it look like 30 would have 
worked.

The afternoon signal-plus-noise avaraged below S1 with occasional pops to 
S2.  Tonight's noise was averaging S5 with excursions from near S2 to S9. 
That's normally more than adequate for MP at night, and readable most 
daytimes.

John 
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From clive at ancient-mariner.co.uk  Sun Oct 11 09:09:02 2015
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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 14:09:02 +0100
Subject: [Lowfer] Extra 17.2 kHz SAQ transmission on UN-day 2015-10-24
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Following received from Lars Kalland

 

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There will be a transmission with the Alexanderson VLF alternator on 17.2
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There will be activity on amateur radio frequencies with the call "SK6SAQ".

 

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From listread at lwca.org  Sun Oct 11 15:13:24 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 14:13:24 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] VE3OT!
References: <BE96FAE1-07F9-4C51-9BF3-82832051BC92@charter.net><B7CA60668408455A9356951B61BB7075@HPNOTEBOOK><957575424F094A7EB830EFC53F2BC7B2@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<8B6B76D4AC1F4673BF8FA0512ED58587@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <B8E16DE7260848519DB197EBA1A26309@HPNOTEBOOK>

Not a very promising afternoon for QRSS3, despite another quiet day 
electrically.

SIW slant is coming in great on 1750 m.

At 22 m, USC,NC, and EH have showed up, and WV and MTI have been audible.

JD 

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sun Oct 11 19:32:57 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 19:32:57 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] VE3OT!
In-Reply-To: <B8E16DE7260848519DB197EBA1A26309@HPNOTEBOOK>
References: <BE96FAE1-07F9-4C51-9BF3-82832051BC92@charter.net><B7CA60668408455A9356951B61BB7075@HPNOTEBOOK><957575424F094A7EB830EFC53F2BC7B2@HPNOTEBOOK>
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JD & All: A much quieter RF environment Sat evening through Sunday evening.

Copy on WH2XND overnight on 137.5 wspr2 with many decodes at -30 SNR or 
higher, two at -33 SNR.

2015-10-11 04:34   WH2XND   0.137500   -30   0   DM33xt   10   WA3TTS 
EN90xn   2915   66
 2015-10-11 08:56   WH2XND   0.137500   -30   0   DM33xt   10   WA3TTS 
EN90xn   2915   66
 2015-10-11 04:08   WH2XND   0.137500   -30   0   DM33xt   10   WA3TTS 
EN90xn   2915   66
 2015-10-11 02:42   WH2XND   0.137500   -30   0   DM33xt   10   WA3TTS 
EN90xn   2915   66
 2015-10-11 09:56   WH2XND   0.137500   -30   0   DM33xt   10   WA3TTS 
EN90xn   2915   66
 2015-10-11 08:36   WH2XND   0.137500   -30   0   DM33xt   10   WA3TTS 
EN90xn   2915   66
 2015-10-11 09:16   WH2XND   0.137500   -30   0   DM33xt   10   WA3TTS 
EN90xn   2915   66
 2015-10-11 09:12   WH2XND   0.137500   -30   0   DM33xt   10   WA3TTS 
EN90xn   2915   66
 2015-10-11 06:24   WH2XND   0.137500   -30   0   DM33xt   10   WA3TTS 
EN90xn   2915   66
 2015-10-11 10:16   WH2XND   0.137500   -31   0   DM33xt   10   WA3TTS 
EN90xn   2915   66
 2015-10-11 05:36   WH2XND   0.137500   -31   0   DM33xt   10   WA3TTS 
EN90xn   2915   66
 2015-10-11 09:30   WH2XND   0.137500   -31   0   DM33xt   10   WA3TTS 
EN90xn   2915   66
 2015-10-11 04:02   WH2XND   0.137500   -31   0   DM33xt   10   WA3TTS 
EN90xn   2915   66
 2015-10-11 07:40   WH2XND   0.137500   -31   0   DM33xt   10   WA3TTS 
EN90xn   2915   66
 2015-10-11 10:54   WH2XND   0.137500   -32   0   DM33xt   10   WA3TTS 
EN90xn   2915   66
 2015-10-11 06:14   WH2XND   0.137500   -33   0   DM33xt   10   WA3TTS 
EN90xn   2915   66
 2015-10-11 03:30   WH2XND   0.137500   -33   0   DM33xt   10   WA3TTS 
EN90xn   2915   66

Seems like my 120Hz harmonics completely dissappeared on 137 kHz after 
sunset last night, but they did reappear a few dB out of the noise this 
morning.  By lunch time, 137 was fairly quiet with the Sun burning off 
whatever moisture in the neighborhood off the power grid hardware which 
seems like a plausible cause of the harmonic interference.


VE3OT with a fairly quiet background

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0hqkh4a8xtjodck/VE3OT.JPG?dl=0

Followed by EAR with very quiet conditions

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ep1yg5t4jtna0of/earO11.jpg?dl=0


and SIW later in afternoon/early evening. I believe the signals under SIW 
are local in nature....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/eg20kg1l5lci1mw/SIWO11.JPG?dl=0

I apologize for the QRSS freq calibrations being off a bit....

The new low-Z AC mains/shack ground continues to amaze me. I have two shop 
lights in the basement with 48inch 20W tubes that always made lots of racket 
on an old Bendix 526 AM radio in the shop with the florescent lights on. 
That noise is no longer audible. Similar for a few lamp dimmers in the 
house.  Between the improved ground system and reworking all my critical 
ground connections to eliminate non-compatible metals junctions, the noise 
on my house wiring has largely vanished--at least audibly using an FT-817 
and rubber duck antenna as a multiband RF sniffer...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fhh1i49lr7e4em5/TTSGND.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qiwp5uo6dncvvu2/IMG_4530.JPG?dl=0



73, Mike wa3tts




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JD" <listread at lwca.org>
To: "LowFER (US European" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] VE3OT!


> Not a very promising afternoon for QRSS3, despite another quiet day
> electrically.
>
> SIW slant is coming in great on 1750 m.
>
> At 22 m, USC,NC, and EH have showed up, and WV and MTI have been audible.
>
> JD
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From williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 12 07:21:48 2015
From: williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com (Douglas Williams)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 07:21:48 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] EAR in TN
Message-ID: <CAEJzK2DPSb6u-tnx3TofFJB6UGyvoSd+tSfdkTBZ=EUtksBo7w@mail.gmail.com>

Monitored 188.830 kHz last night and managed one capture of EAR's complete
call sign in the early morning hours.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33457409/EAR%20101215.jpg

I tried to add the 9 KB image as an attachment, but the list flagged it as
spam, thus the Dropbox link.

-Doug KB4OER

From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Mon Oct 12 20:23:53 2015
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 20:23:53 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] EAR in TN
In-Reply-To: <CAEJzK2DPSb6u-tnx3TofFJB6UGyvoSd+tSfdkTBZ=EUtksBo7w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEJzK2DPSb6u-tnx3TofFJB6UGyvoSd+tSfdkTBZ=EUtksBo7w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B0E3FE01-BF08-42C9-81BB-D0B8873FCBF5@hurontel.on.ca>

Thanks for the report and Argo snip, Doug.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 13 09:20:12 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 08:20:12 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfers
Message-ID: <561D050C.8010604@sbcglobal.net>

Nice copy of EAR here this morning but the higher-powered MP is nowhere 
to be found. Must have gone off the air overnight because it was fine 
yesterday.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Tue Oct 13 11:06:33 2015
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:06:33 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfers
In-Reply-To: <561D050C.8010604@sbcglobal.net>
References: <561D050C.8010604@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <C7F10A8D-C345-4311-9477-B7E419EA5F35@hurontel.on.ca>

Hello Garry, LowFERs....thanks for the report and Argo snip of EAR.  We've had very high
winds here over the last few days, so maybe Mitch has had an antenna problem with MP.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 13 12:18:22 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:18:22 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfers
Message-ID: <561D2ECE.9050000@sbcglobal.net>

J.B., don't know why Mitch was sending "VE3OT" via QRSS3 for a few days, 
but he's back on the air now with "MP", QRSS60 as before.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From ve3ot.mp at gmail.com  Tue Oct 13 22:40:09 2015
From: ve3ot.mp at gmail.com (Mitch Powell)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 22:40:09 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfers
In-Reply-To: <561D2ECE.9050000@sbcglobal.net>
References: <561D2ECE.9050000@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <CAL-Prc26aN4YKutkAKKMn0=CzdHr+Pv8UgxxPT5jhp5GSLF=pA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Garry: All measurements solid here - so not sure what happened earlier.
Here is a copy of the reason for QRSS3.
Thanks for the report - nice to see it that clearly.

quote"Good day John, Garry and JD - Not much of a chance of slipping in a
change on you.

Had presented a talk on LF at the local Radio Club on Thursday/Oct8 - and
had switched over to full ID at QRSS3, before I left for the meeting.  It
was obviously noted pretty quickly - congratulations. Talked about software
of course, and QRSS operation - so set up this speed with ID to provide the
display you have received.

I thought that if I could get them listening down at 137, hearing QRSS3
directly, that they could then install software, and start listening on or
about 500 kHz with additional modes that are available there on a more
regular basis.
NDBs were covered for further listening tests by the novice.

I hope it works, and generates some LF interest and possible activity in
the area.
Good crowd of 50, so the odds are that one or more should hop on the
bandwagon.

Returning to QRSS60 tonight - but interesting to see the effect QRSS3, as
noted.

Thanks all for reports.

Mitch

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Garry Hess <k3siw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> J.B., don't know why Mitch was sending "VE3OT" via QRSS3 for a few days,
> but he's back on the air now with "MP", QRSS60 as before.
>
> --
> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
>
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Tue Oct 13 22:47:13 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 22:47:13 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfers
In-Reply-To: <CAL-Prc26aN4YKutkAKKMn0=CzdHr+Pv8UgxxPT5jhp5GSLF=pA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <561D2ECE.9050000@sbcglobal.net>
	<CAL-Prc26aN4YKutkAKKMn0=CzdHr+Pv8UgxxPT5jhp5GSLF=pA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3F598648DB71489682E92EDA5958DE8A@MichaelSappPC>

Mitch, for what it is worth I hear your CW IDs on a regular basis down here 
in EN90xn....73, Mike tts



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitch Powell" <ve3ot.mp at gmail.com>
To: "Garry Carson" <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>; "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, 
European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Lowfers


> Hi Garry: All measurements solid here - so not sure what happened earlier.
> Here is a copy of the reason for QRSS3.
> Thanks for the report - nice to see it that clearly.
>
> quote"Good day John, Garry and JD - Not much of a chance of slipping in a
> change on you.
>
> Had presented a talk on LF at the local Radio Club on Thursday/Oct8 - and
> had switched over to full ID at QRSS3, before I left for the meeting.  It
> was obviously noted pretty quickly - congratulations. Talked about 
> software
> of course, and QRSS operation - so set up this speed with ID to provide 
> the
> display you have received.
>
> I thought that if I could get them listening down at 137, hearing QRSS3
> directly, that they could then install software, and start listening on or
> about 500 kHz with additional modes that are available there on a more
> regular basis.
> NDBs were covered for further listening tests by the novice.
>
> I hope it works, and generates some LF interest and possible activity in
> the area.
> Good crowd of 50, so the odds are that one or more should hop on the
> bandwagon.
>
> Returning to QRSS60 tonight - but interesting to see the effect QRSS3, as
> noted.
>
> Thanks all for reports.
>
> Mitch
>
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Garry Hess <k3siw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> J.B., don't know why Mitch was sending "VE3OT" via QRSS3 for a few days,
>> but he's back on the air now with "MP", QRSS60 as before.
>>
>> --
>> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
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From ve3ot.mp at gmail.com  Wed Oct 14 14:49:07 2015
From: ve3ot.mp at gmail.com (Mitch Powell)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 14:49:07 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfers
In-Reply-To: <3F598648DB71489682E92EDA5958DE8A@MichaelSappPC>
References: <561D2ECE.9050000@sbcglobal.net>
	<CAL-Prc26aN4YKutkAKKMn0=CzdHr+Pv8UgxxPT5jhp5GSLF=pA@mail.gmail.com>
	<3F598648DB71489682E92EDA5958DE8A@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <CAL-Prc1o8d9_B5MfXBY3zpssLjpKBszgZiKxN4cV1m0T7=GCmQ@mail.gmail.com>

That's pretty good Mike -  10-15 wpm - is a nice speed for a QSO.
I'm collecting your articles on noise suppression and circuit mods - makes
for great
reading, and good suggestions for the problems that I encounter.
Thanks
73
Mitch

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:

> Mitch, for what it is worth I hear your CW IDs on a regular basis down
> here in EN90xn....73, Mike tts
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch Powell" <ve3ot.mp at gmail.com>
> To: "Garry Carson" <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>; "Discussion of the Lowfer (US,
> European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Lowfers
>
>
>
> Hi Garry: All measurements solid here - so not sure what happened earlier.
>> Here is a copy of the reason for QRSS3.
>> Thanks for the report - nice to see it that clearly.
>>
>> quote"Good day John, Garry and JD - Not much of a chance of slipping in a
>> change on you.
>>
>> Had presented a talk on LF at the local Radio Club on Thursday/Oct8 - and
>> had switched over to full ID at QRSS3, before I left for the meeting.  It
>> was obviously noted pretty quickly - congratulations. Talked about
>> software
>> of course, and QRSS operation - so set up this speed with ID to provide
>> the
>> display you have received.
>>
>> I thought that if I could get them listening down at 137, hearing QRSS3
>> directly, that they could then install software, and start listening on or
>> about 500 kHz with additional modes that are available there on a more
>> regular basis.
>> NDBs were covered for further listening tests by the novice.
>>
>> I hope it works, and generates some LF interest and possible activity in
>> the area.
>> Good crowd of 50, so the odds are that one or more should hop on the
>> bandwagon.
>>
>> Returning to QRSS60 tonight - but interesting to see the effect QRSS3, as
>> noted.
>>
>> Thanks all for reports.
>>
>> Mitch
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Garry Hess <k3siw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> J.B., don't know why Mitch was sending "VE3OT" via QRSS3 for a few days,
>>> but he's back on the air now with "MP", QRSS60 as before.
>>>
>>> --
>>> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Wed Oct 14 15:51:10 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 15:51:10 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfers
In-Reply-To: <CAL-Prc1o8d9_B5MfXBY3zpssLjpKBszgZiKxN4cV1m0T7=GCmQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <561D2ECE.9050000@sbcglobal.net>
	<CAL-Prc26aN4YKutkAKKMn0=CzdHr+Pv8UgxxPT5jhp5GSLF=pA@mail.gmail.com>
	<3F598648DB71489682E92EDA5958DE8A@MichaelSappPC>
	<CAL-Prc1o8d9_B5MfXBY3zpssLjpKBszgZiKxN4cV1m0T7=GCmQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D4A50DF20423478BAB3C0B4BC5A97762@MichaelSappPC>

Mitch: Tnx, I mostly "Rob & Duplicate" (R&D), meaning that I stumble across 
stuff  of interest that looks useful and then
try to apply it --- with varying degrees of success. That said, info is 
better shared than sat on....

Guys like Jim Fisk (sk), Wes Hayward, and a few on this list are the really 
brilliant engineers and communicators
in this hobby.... I'm just a lowly scribe trying to figure out how much I 
don't know....

73 Mike wa3tts


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitch Powell" <ve3ot.mp at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Lowfers


> That's pretty good Mike -  10-15 wpm - is a nice speed for a QSO.
> I'm collecting your articles on noise suppression and circuit mods - makes
> for great
> reading, and good suggestions for the problems that I encounter.
> Thanks
> 73
> Mitch
>
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Mitch, for what it is worth I hear your CW IDs on a regular basis down
>> here in EN90xn....73, Mike tts
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch Powell" <ve3ot.mp at gmail.com>
>> To: "Garry Carson" <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>; "Discussion of the Lowfer (US,
>> European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Lowfers
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Garry: All measurements solid here - so not sure what happened 
>> earlier.
>>> Here is a copy of the reason for QRSS3.
>>> Thanks for the report - nice to see it that clearly.
>>>
>>> quote"Good day John, Garry and JD - Not much of a chance of slipping in 
>>> a
>>> change on you.
>>>
>>> Had presented a talk on LF at the local Radio Club on Thursday/Oct8 - 
>>> and
>>> had switched over to full ID at QRSS3, before I left for the meeting. 
>>> It
>>> was obviously noted pretty quickly - congratulations. Talked about
>>> software
>>> of course, and QRSS operation - so set up this speed with ID to provide
>>> the
>>> display you have received.
>>>
>>> I thought that if I could get them listening down at 137, hearing QRSS3
>>> directly, that they could then install software, and start listening on 
>>> or
>>> about 500 kHz with additional modes that are available there on a more
>>> regular basis.
>>> NDBs were covered for further listening tests by the novice.
>>>
>>> I hope it works, and generates some LF interest and possible activity in
>>> the area.
>>> Good crowd of 50, so the odds are that one or more should hop on the
>>> bandwagon.
>>>
>>> Returning to QRSS60 tonight - but interesting to see the effect QRSS3, 
>>> as
>>> noted.
>>>
>>> Thanks all for reports.
>>>
>>> Mitch
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Garry Hess <k3siw at sbcglobal.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> J.B., don't know why Mitch was sending "VE3OT" via QRSS3 for a few days,
>>>> but he's back on the air now with "MP", QRSS60 as before.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
>>>>
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>> Lowfer mailing list
>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
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From listread at lwca.org  Wed Oct 14 18:08:41 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:08:41 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Classic MP
References: <561D2ECE.9050000@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <78AF6DB2D60B4719AEA39611785EE556@HPNOTEBOOK>

...with solar noon between us, and a fairly noise-free day.
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From listread at lwca.org  Wed Oct 14 18:11:07 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:11:07 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SIW plus one?
References: <561D2ECE.9050000@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <2BF0691479DD4E5C97F01BC2797CE48F@HPNOTEBOOK>

After doing the MP captures, I switched over to 1750 m to watch the SIW 
mode/freq transition. Later, I was about to switch over to HiFER monitoring, 
when I noticed there was a visitor.  Details and picture here:
http://lwca.org/mb/msg/5434.htm 

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Wed Oct 14 18:32:18 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 18:32:18 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] SIW plus one?
In-Reply-To: <2BF0691479DD4E5C97F01BC2797CE48F@HPNOTEBOOK>
References: <561D2ECE.9050000@sbcglobal.net>
	<2BF0691479DD4E5C97F01BC2797CE48F@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <82E3DE56EDD64E34BB3F02B3E1A9BD2A@MichaelSappPC>

JD: Last winter I captured an unknown "dasher" about 2 or 3 Hz below SIW....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6eaga61repocn1k/capt00025.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ec156y13nsr0kal/capt00065%20%282%29.jpg?dl=0


Not sure if it was a local PLC or what. It had that slow frequency rise 
signature for it's dash duration....

73, Mike wa3tts


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JD" <listread at lwca.org>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 6:11 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] SIW plus one?


> After doing the MP captures, I switched over to 1750 m to watch the SIW
> mode/freq transition. Later, I was about to switch over to HiFER 
> monitoring,
> when I noticed there was a visitor.  Details and picture here:
> http://lwca.org/mb/msg/5434.htm
> ______________________________________________________________
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From ve3ot.mp at gmail.com  Wed Oct 14 20:04:59 2015
From: ve3ot.mp at gmail.com (Mitch Powell)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:04:59 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Classic MP
In-Reply-To: <78AF6DB2D60B4719AEA39611785EE556@HPNOTEBOOK>
References: <561D2ECE.9050000@sbcglobal.net>
	<78AF6DB2D60B4719AEA39611785EE556@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <CAL-Prc3aJ3Q3_POsSu6M05wX1pHh_4aodiXRJP1mqT7UtCBZ2g@mail.gmail.com>

Very Nice
Normal tuning - normal power - normal current.
Mitch

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 6:08 PM, JD <listread at lwca.org> wrote:

> ...with solar noon between us, and a fairly noise-free day.
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From ve3ot.mp at gmail.com  Wed Oct 14 20:06:16 2015
From: ve3ot.mp at gmail.com (Mitch Powell)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:06:16 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfers
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Nice stuff
thanks an

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:

> Mitch: Tnx, I mostly "Rob & Duplicate" (R&D), meaning that I stumble
> across stuff  of interest that looks useful and then
> try to apply it --- with varying degrees of success. That said, info is
> better shared than sat on....
>
> Guys like Jim Fisk (sk), Wes Hayward, and a few on this list are the
> really brilliant engineers and communicators
> in this hobby.... I'm just a lowly scribe trying to figure out how much I
> don't know....
>
> 73 Mike wa3tts
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch Powell" <ve3ot.mp at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <
> lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:49 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Lowfers
>
>
> That's pretty good Mike -  10-15 wpm - is a nice speed for a QSO.
>> I'm collecting your articles on noise suppression and circuit mods - makes
>> for great
>> reading, and good suggestions for the problems that I encounter.
>> Thanks
>> 73
>> Mitch
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Mitch, for what it is worth I hear your CW IDs on a regular basis down
>>> here in EN90xn....73, Mike tts
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch Powell" <ve3ot.mp at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Garry Carson" <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>; "Discussion of the Lowfer (US,
>>> European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Lowfers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Garry: All measurements solid here - so not sure what happened
>>> earlier.
>>>
>>>> Here is a copy of the reason for QRSS3.
>>>> Thanks for the report - nice to see it that clearly.
>>>>
>>>> quote"Good day John, Garry and JD - Not much of a chance of slipping in
>>>> a
>>>> change on you.
>>>>
>>>> Had presented a talk on LF at the local Radio Club on Thursday/Oct8 -
>>>> and
>>>> had switched over to full ID at QRSS3, before I left for the meeting. It
>>>> was obviously noted pretty quickly - congratulations. Talked about
>>>> software
>>>> of course, and QRSS operation - so set up this speed with ID to provide
>>>> the
>>>> display you have received.
>>>>
>>>> I thought that if I could get them listening down at 137, hearing QRSS3
>>>> directly, that they could then install software, and start listening on
>>>> or
>>>> about 500 kHz with additional modes that are available there on a more
>>>> regular basis.
>>>> NDBs were covered for further listening tests by the novice.
>>>>
>>>> I hope it works, and generates some LF interest and possible activity in
>>>> the area.
>>>> Good crowd of 50, so the odds are that one or more should hop on the
>>>> bandwagon.
>>>>
>>>> Returning to QRSS60 tonight - but interesting to see the effect QRSS3,
>>>> as
>>>> noted.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all for reports.
>>>>
>>>> Mitch
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Garry Hess <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> J.B., don't know why Mitch was sending "VE3OT" via QRSS3 for a few days,
>>>>
>>>>> but he's back on the air now with "MP", QRSS60 as before.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From listread at lwca.org  Wed Oct 14 22:39:02 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:39:02 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Classic MP
References: <561D2ECE.9050000@sbcglobal.net><78AF6DB2D60B4719AEA39611785EE556@HPNOTEBOOK>
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Just a quick nighttime followup on MP...QRN picked up by about 6 S-units in 
the first hour after sunset. But according to Argo, MP's signal rose in 
proportion over that same time.  Very handy!

At the start of the second hour, however, static levels rose another S-unit 
but apparently MP's strength didn't.  It made the QRSS10 trace harder to 
discern, but QRSS30 was still good and QRSS60 showed almost no visible 
difference.

Tuned up to 630 m, where static was a lot less and got a few nice WSPR 
decodes. More on that later.

John 

From listread at lwca.org  Thu Oct 15 01:27:06 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 00:27:06 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 630m WSPR
References: <561D050C.8010604@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <642FD5A5975D4FF89B01821CD1F7FDC0@HPNOTEBOOK>

After checking on SIW and MP, I noticed that the noise levels were a lot 
less at 630 m, so I spent about an hour there.  As usual, XXM was S9 to +10 
and XIQ ranged from S7 to S5.  A sample of the results is below.  In 
addition to the actual spots of XKA, XXC, and XRR, there were several time 
slots where they appeared on Argo set for QRSS3, but did not decode.  I was 
especially pleased to see XRR's 0.2 W so early in the evening, this time 
with the frequency drift eliminated.  Wish I could've watched longer.

 2015-10-15 01:00   WG2XKA   0.475724   -26   0   FN33lq   1   2001   256
 2015-10-15 01:00   WG2XIQ   0.475732   -26   0   EM12mp   5   523   18
 2015-10-15 01:02   WG2XXM   0.475709   +11   0   EM15lj   5   256   42
 2015-10-15 01:04   WH2XXC   0.475655   -22   0   FM18qi   2   1630   271
 . . .
 2015-10-15 01:12   WG2XIQ   0.475611   +5   0   EM12mp   5   523   18
 2015-10-15 01:14   WG2XXM   0.475709   +6   0   EM15lj   5   256   42
 2015-10-15 01:16   WH2XXC   0.475655   -16   0   FM18qi   2   1630   271
 . . .
 2015-10-15 01:40   WG2XKA   0.475724   -27   0   FN33lq   1   2001   256
 2015-10-15 01:42   WG2XXM   0.475709   +5   0   EM15lj   5   256   42
 2015-10-15 01:42   WG2XIQ   0.475614   +4   0   EM12mp   5   523   18
 2015-10-15 01:44   WH2XRR   0.475764   -26   0   FM18re   0.2   1638   272



From wa3tts at verizon.net  Fri Oct 16 06:39:11 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:39:11 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] XRR & XND
Message-ID: <93A2B7A150E045199B744B969F8C1091@MichaelSappPC>

Ron, Bill & All:  Hearing XRR's .005W along with XND this morning....


https://www.dropbox.com/s/wzqamw67q2rpoxx/IMG_4631.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/v5fymn0klfrasip/IMG_4632.JPG?dl=0

I had the EWE to the SW for the overnight. I will switch to the SE after sunrise

and let the system run til 1 PM or so when I get back from lunch and the morning commute....

73 Mike wa3tts

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Fri Oct 16 06:53:38 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:53:38 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] XND @ 1W
Message-ID: <E5A299C7585842059DF246E3BEAE7C89@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All: Post by XND on KST Chat said he was 1W on 137.500

      05:45:41    WH2XND Ron  Mike I finally made it...2015-10-16 05:34 WH2XND 0.137500 -27 0 DM33xt 1 WA3TTS EN90xn 2915 66 


73, Mike wa3tts

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct 16 07:41:05 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:41:05 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XRR & XND
Message-ID: <5620E251.2020502@sbcglobal.net>

Mike, I switched from 474.2 kHz to 136 kHz WSPR-2 around 1000Z and found 
XND as usual. Nothing noted from XRR, but there is a strong, wideband 
signal on about 135.95 kHz. Probably NPG in California, or whatever 
callsign is using the facility these days; it nulls out at roughly N/S.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Fri Oct 16 17:49:53 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 17:49:53 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] XRR & carrier signal
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Garry: I get that dual carrier signal close to 137599 kHz 24/7. It's fairly 
strong as I capture XRR through the afternoon (about 17 dB above the noise 
with my EWE pointed SE), so it may be much closer than W6 land....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/d104w28eeqi3bdh/IMG_4633.JPG?dl=0

Mike tts


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garry Hess" <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>
To: "lowfer list" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XRR & XND


> Mike, I switched from 474.2 kHz to 136 kHz WSPR-2 around 1000Z and found
> XND as usual. Nothing noted from XRR, but there is a strong, wideband
> signal on about 135.95 kHz. Probably NPG in California, or whatever
> callsign is using the facility these days; it nulls out at roughly N/S.
> -- 
> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
>


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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct 16 18:05:21 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 17:05:21 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XRR & carrier signal
Message-ID: <562174A1.6060109@sbcglobal.net>

Mike, I see that dual carrier signal on 137.6 kHz here too. But the 
signal I was referring to was at about 135.95 kHz and looked somewhat 
like the big Navy signals down below 30 kHz. NPG used to send on that 
frequency as well as 55.5 kHz. I know the latter frequency has been used 
for some sort of GPS backup scheme so perhaps the former frequency has 
been used as well. Whatever it was it disappeared into the noise an hour 
or so after local sunrise. Perhaps I'll see it again tonight.

Groundwave is decent here on 136 kHz WSPR2. At 600 miles WG2XXM has 
decoded a couple of time in the few minutes I've been monitoring. No 
hint of WH2XXR last night while WH2XND was decent. Can't help but wonder 
if WSPR15 would have been able to decode XXR.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Fri Oct 16 18:18:43 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 18:18:43 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] XRR & carrier signal
In-Reply-To: <562174A1.6060109@sbcglobal.net>
References: <562174A1.6060109@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <ADA648EA66C6417AB51B2EDD969C5C67@MichaelSappPC>

Garry: Yes, I realized which signal you were referring to after I had hit 
the "send" trigger. Good thing my send trigger is not set on auto-repeat ~:)

73 Mike tts


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garry Hess" <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>
To: "lowfer list" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XRR & carrier signal


> Mike, I see that dual carrier signal on 137.6 kHz here too. But the signal 
> I was referring to was at about 135.95 kHz and looked somewhat like the 
> big Navy signals down below 30 kHz. NPG used to send on that frequency as 
> well as 55.5 kHz. I know the latter frequency has been used for some sort 
> of GPS backup scheme so perhaps the former frequency has been used as 
> well. Whatever it was it disappeared into the noise an hour or so after 
> local sunrise. Perhaps I'll see it again tonight.
>
> Groundwave is decent here on 136 kHz WSPR2. At 600 miles WG2XXM has 
> decoded a couple of time in the few minutes I've been monitoring. No hint 
> of WH2XXR last night while WH2XND was decent. Can't help but wonder if 
> WSPR15 would have been able to decode XXR.
> -- 
> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From listread at lwca.org  Fri Oct 16 20:37:23 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 19:37:23 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 630m WSPR - Fri. Afternoon
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Very quiet conditions late this afternoon.  Even XIQ was barely moving the 
S-meter a half hour before sunset, but was none the less decoding in the -7 
to -2 SNRr range.  Then, to my great delight, XXC showed up.and then XSH/15! 
All with the sun still shining.

John D 

From listread at lwca.org  Sat Oct 17 02:26:53 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 01:26:53 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 630m WSPR - Fri. PM
References: <561D050C.8010604@sbcglobal.net><642FD5A5975D4FF89B01821CD1F7FDC0@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<8833BD773CEB4E17B84DC27714711508@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <D11DBCECBB97436EB05213C60FDB12AB@HPNOTEBOOK>

Very nearly coast to coast...these were the regulars tonight from pre-sunset 
to about 11:20 PM CDT. 
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From kb5njd at gmail.com  Sat Oct 17 08:04:41 2015
From: kb5njd at gmail.com (John Langridge)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 07:04:41 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 630m WSPR - Fri. PM
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Thanks for the reports JD!  I sometimes forget who KD4IDY is when I see
that reporting station in SE KS...

Conditions were very strong overnight on 630m with CW levels to the mid and
upper-mid west as well as pacific northwest.  Noise levels here are as low
as they have been this season so far.  I was fortunate to have WG2XJM break
in on a local CW QSO I was involved with on 474.5 last night at S7+ levels
and nice armchair copy....I think we are close to that being the norm
again...

73 and thanks again!

XIQ

On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 1:26 AM, JD <listread at lwca.org> wrote:

> Very nearly coast to coast...these were the regulars tonight from
> pre-sunset to about 11:20 PM CDT.
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct 17 08:20:52 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 07:20:52 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] morning VLF signals
Message-ID: <56223D24.9060603@sbcglobal.net>

Nice propagation here this cold (28 deg) morning. Seeing NWC, 19.8 kHz 
from Australia as strong as NPM, 21.4 kHz, HI. JJI, 22.2 kHz from Japan 
is in there as well, along with the big 3 USA mainland transmitters. 
Interestingly, DHO38, 23.4 kHz from Germany is as strong as it has been 
lately in the evening. RDL, 21.1 kHz from European Russia pulses on 
occasionally but isn't on in the attached capture (excuse the 60 Hz 
picket fence; common-mode chokes don't prevent it).
-- 
Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From n8tl at woh.rr.com  Sat Oct 17 08:29:13 2015
From: n8tl at woh.rr.com (n8tl)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 12:29:13 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] XRR & carrier signal
In-Reply-To: <562174A1.6060109@sbcglobal.net>
References: <562174A1.6060109@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <56223F19.6030005@woh.rr.com>

Mike and Gary:

Same results here in NW Ohio.  Copy on WG2XXM and WH2XND were 
good....but, no WH2XXR.   I would like someone to adopt WSPR15 as 
transmit mode here
in the states!!

0554  -29  -0.8    0.137510    0   WG2XXM        EM15     23  (Ken K5DNL)
0650  -25  -0.2    0.137500    0   WH2XND        DM33     30  (Ron NI7J)

Tom N8TL

On 15-10-16 10:05 PM, Garry Hess wrote:
> Mike, I see that dual carrier signal on 137.6 kHz here too. But the 
> signal I was referring to was at about 135.95 kHz and looked somewhat 
> like the big Navy signals down below 30 kHz. NPG used to send on that 
> frequency as well as 55.5 kHz. I know the latter frequency has been 
> used for some sort of GPS backup scheme so perhaps the former 
> frequency has been used as well. Whatever it was it disappeared into 
> the noise an hour or so after local sunrise. Perhaps I'll see it again 
> tonight.
>
> Groundwave is decent here on 136 kHz WSPR2. At 600 miles WG2XXM has 
> decoded a couple of time in the few minutes I've been monitoring. No 
> hint of WH2XXR last night while WH2XND was decent. Can't help but 
> wonder if WSPR15 would have been able to decode XXR.


From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sat Oct 17 08:57:25 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 08:57:25 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] XRR & carrier signal
In-Reply-To: <56223F19.6030005@woh.rr.com>
References: <562174A1.6060109@sbcglobal.net> <56223F19.6030005@woh.rr.com>
Message-ID: <AF0CB3D675624093A4B25B6C7B691FA6@MichaelSappPC>

Tom & Garry: Well, +7dBm EIRP is on the light side. I'm surprised to be 
hearing Bill's signal as consistently as I am.  When he gets up around 
+20dBm I would expect some 800~1000 mile paths to be possible...perhaps a 
quarter wave of wire on or near the ground within 100ft of a railroad right 
of way would help ~:)

73 Mike wa3tts

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "n8tl" <n8tl at woh.rr.com>
To: <"k3siw at sbcglobal.net; lowfer"@mailman.qth.net>; "Discussion of the 
Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XRR & carrier signal


> Mike and Gary:
>
> Same results here in NW Ohio.  Copy on WG2XXM and WH2XND were good....but, 
> no WH2XXR.   I would like someone to adopt WSPR15 as transmit mode here
> in the states!!
>
> 0554  -29  -0.8    0.137510    0   WG2XXM        EM15     23  (Ken K5DNL)
> 0650  -25  -0.2    0.137500    0   WH2XND        DM33     30  (Ron NI7J)
>
> Tom N8TL
>
> On 15-10-16 10:05 PM, Garry Hess wrote:
>> Mike, I see that dual carrier signal on 137.6 kHz here too. But the 
>> signal I was referring to was at about 135.95 kHz and looked somewhat 
>> like the big Navy signals down below 30 kHz. NPG used to send on that 
>> frequency as well as 55.5 kHz. I know the latter frequency has been used 
>> for some sort of GPS backup scheme so perhaps the former frequency has 
>> been used as well. Whatever it was it disappeared into the noise an hour 
>> or so after local sunrise. Perhaps I'll see it again tonight.
>>
>> Groundwave is decent here on 136 kHz WSPR2. At 600 miles WG2XXM has 
>> decoded a couple of time in the few minutes I've been monitoring. No hint 
>> of WH2XXR last night while WH2XND was decent. Can't help but wonder if 
>> WSPR15 would have been able to decode XXR.
>
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct 17 09:23:14 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 08:23:14 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] XRR & carrier signal
Message-ID: <56224BC2.1030008@sbcglobal.net>

Mike, Tom, et al,

I was pleased to get a good number of 136 kHz WSPR-2 decodes from WH2XRR 
last night. Best SNR was only -27 dB but the SNR was quite consistent 
over many hours on the 1092 km path. Haven't decoded VE7BDQ for awhile 
so propagation still leaves something to be desired. Switching to 
WSPR-15 would certainly help, as would one of the slow Opera modes.
-- 
Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sat Oct 17 09:28:39 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 09:28:39 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] XRR & carrier signal
In-Reply-To: <56224BC2.1030008@sbcglobal.net>
References: <56224BC2.1030008@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <AC0E195CE06A48FFB5A4BABF3104A947@MichaelSappPC>

Garry: That's great!! I had really not looked at all the overnite 
numbers....

Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garry" <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>
To: "lowfer list" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XRR & carrier signal


> Mike, Tom, et al,
>
> I was pleased to get a good number of 136 kHz WSPR-2 decodes from WH2XRR 
> last night. Best SNR was only -27 dB but the SNR was quite consistent over 
> many hours on the 1092 km path. Haven't decoded VE7BDQ for awhile so 
> propagation still leaves something to be desired. Switching to WSPR-15 
> would certainly help, as would one of the slow Opera modes.
> -- 
> Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sat Oct 17 09:37:00 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 09:37:00 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] WH2XRR & N8TL
In-Reply-To: <56223F19.6030005@woh.rr.com>
References: <562174A1.6060109@sbcglobal.net> <56223F19.6030005@woh.rr.com>
Message-ID: <FDBD3560DA3E4329AA827AF7CA4931EF@MichaelSappPC>

Tom: Turns out you did have a WH2XRR capture...

2015-10-17 10:08   WH2XRR   0.137551   -33   0   FM18re   0.005   N8TL 
EN81db   692   300

I did a wspr dbase search by distance and it popped out of the results....

73 Mike wa3tts


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "n8tl" <n8tl at woh.rr.com>
To: <"k3siw at sbcglobal.net; lowfer"@mailman.qth.net>; "Discussion of the 
Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XRR & carrier signal


> Mike and Gary:
>
> Same results here in NW Ohio.  Copy on WG2XXM and WH2XND were good....but, 
> no WH2XXR.   I would like someone to adopt WSPR15 as transmit mode here
> in the states!!
>
> 0554  -29  -0.8    0.137510    0   WG2XXM        EM15     23  (Ken K5DNL)
> 0650  -25  -0.2    0.137500    0   WH2XND        DM33     30  (Ron NI7J)
>
> Tom N8TL
>
> On 15-10-16 10:05 PM, Garry Hess wrote:
>> Mike, I see that dual carrier signal on 137.6 kHz here too. But the 
>> signal I was referring to was at about 135.95 kHz and looked somewhat 
>> like the big Navy signals down below 30 kHz. NPG used to send on that 
>> frequency as well as 55.5 kHz. I know the latter frequency has been used 
>> for some sort of GPS backup scheme so perhaps the former frequency has 
>> been used as well. Whatever it was it disappeared into the noise an hour 
>> or so after local sunrise. Perhaps I'll see it again tonight.
>>
>> Groundwave is decent here on 136 kHz WSPR2. At 600 miles WG2XXM has 
>> decoded a couple of time in the few minutes I've been monitoring. No hint 
>> of WH2XXR last night while WH2XND was decent. Can't help but wonder if 
>> WSPR15 would have been able to decode XXR.
>
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From n8tl at woh.rr.com  Sat Oct 17 09:55:20 2015
From: n8tl at woh.rr.com (n8tl)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 13:55:20 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] WH2XRR & N8TL
In-Reply-To: <FDBD3560DA3E4329AA827AF7CA4931EF@MichaelSappPC>
References: <562174A1.6060109@sbcglobal.net> <56223F19.6030005@woh.rr.com>
	<FDBD3560DA3E4329AA827AF7CA4931EF@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <56225348.7010901@woh.rr.com>

Well...whoopie!!!  I didn't check WSPRNET.  I didn't see it on my wsprx 
printout.  I sent Bill an email to find out if he can do wspr15 mode.  
Let's see what he
comes back with.  Thanks Mike for the revelation!!

Tom N8TL


On 15-10-17 01:37 PM, Michael Sapp wrote:
> Tom: Turns out you did have a WH2XRR capture...
>
> 2015-10-17 10:08   WH2XRR   0.137551   -33   0   FM18re   0.005 N8TL 
> EN81db   692   300
>
> I did a wspr dbase search by distance and it popped out of the 
> results....
>
> 73 Mike wa3tts
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "n8tl" <n8tl at woh.rr.com>
> To: <"k3siw at sbcglobal.net; lowfer"@mailman.qth.net>; "Discussion of 
> the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" 
> <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 8:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XRR & carrier signal
>
>
>> Mike and Gary:
>>
>> Same results here in NW Ohio.  Copy on WG2XXM and WH2XND were 
>> good....but, no WH2XXR.   I would like someone to adopt WSPR15 as 
>> transmit mode here
>> in the states!!
>>
>> 0554  -29  -0.8    0.137510    0   WG2XXM        EM15     23 (Ken K5DNL)
>> 0650  -25  -0.2    0.137500    0   WH2XND        DM33     30 (Ron NI7J)
>>
>> Tom N8TL
>>
>> On 15-10-16 10:05 PM, Garry Hess wrote:
>>> Mike, I see that dual carrier signal on 137.6 kHz here too. But the 
>>> signal I was referring to was at about 135.95 kHz and looked 
>>> somewhat like the big Navy signals down below 30 kHz. NPG used to 
>>> send on that frequency as well as 55.5 kHz. I know the latter 
>>> frequency has been used for some sort of GPS backup scheme so 
>>> perhaps the former frequency has been used as well. Whatever it was 
>>> it disappeared into the noise an hour or so after local sunrise. 
>>> Perhaps I'll see it again tonight.
>>>
>>> Groundwave is decent here on 136 kHz WSPR2. At 600 miles WG2XXM has 
>>> decoded a couple of time in the few minutes I've been monitoring. No 
>>> hint of WH2XXR last night while WH2XND was decent. Can't help but 
>>> wonder if WSPR15 would have been able to decode XXR.
>>
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sat Oct 17 10:43:52 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 10:43:52 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] WH2XRR & N8TL
In-Reply-To: <56225348.7010901@woh.rr.com>
References: <562174A1.6060109@sbcglobal.net> <56223F19.6030005@woh.rr.com>
	<FDBD3560DA3E4329AA827AF7CA4931EF@MichaelSappPC>
	<56225348.7010901@woh.rr.com>
Message-ID: <8C13999E9BB34209B74B1C945FC616BA@MichaelSappPC>

Tom: It's good to check the wsprnet dbase and make separate searches by 
timestamp, distance, and SNR to get a better idea of the activity and 
propagation conditions.  For example, if you set the band, leave the station 
fields blank and chose 999 as the number of spots, and 24 for  hours, you 
will get a listing of the longest dx captures for the 24 hour period for all 
active stations for the selected band. Or just enter a call sign for sender 
or receiver and narrow the results for one tx station and all rx stations 
(or visa versa).  It is a fairly quick and easy way to assess the activity 
and propagation for a given band and time period...

73, Mike wa3tts


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "n8tl" <n8tl at woh.rr.com>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WH2XRR & N8TL


> Well...whoopie!!!  I didn't check WSPRNET.  I didn't see it on my wsprx 
> printout.  I sent Bill an email to find out if he can do wspr15 mode. 
> Let's see what he
> comes back with.  Thanks Mike for the revelation!!
>
> Tom N8TL
>
>
> On 15-10-17 01:37 PM, Michael Sapp wrote:
>> Tom: Turns out you did have a WH2XRR capture...
>>
>> 2015-10-17 10:08   WH2XRR   0.137551   -33   0   FM18re   0.005 N8TL 
>> EN81db   692   300
>>
>> I did a wspr dbase search by distance and it popped out of the 
>> results....
>>
>> 73 Mike wa3tts
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "n8tl" <n8tl at woh.rr.com>
>> To: <"k3siw at sbcglobal.net; lowfer"@mailman.qth.net>; "Discussion of the 
>> Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 8:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XRR & carrier signal
>>
>>
>>> Mike and Gary:
>>>
>>> Same results here in NW Ohio.  Copy on WG2XXM and WH2XND were 
>>> good....but, no WH2XXR.   I would like someone to adopt WSPR15 as 
>>> transmit mode here
>>> in the states!!
>>>
>>> 0554  -29  -0.8    0.137510    0   WG2XXM        EM15     23 (Ken K5DNL)
>>> 0650  -25  -0.2    0.137500    0   WH2XND        DM33     30 (Ron NI7J)
>>>
>>> Tom N8TL
>>>
>>> On 15-10-16 10:05 PM, Garry Hess wrote:
>>>> Mike, I see that dual carrier signal on 137.6 kHz here too. But the 
>>>> signal I was referring to was at about 135.95 kHz and looked somewhat 
>>>> like the big Navy signals down below 30 kHz. NPG used to send on that 
>>>> frequency as well as 55.5 kHz. I know the latter frequency has been 
>>>> used for some sort of GPS backup scheme so perhaps the former frequency 
>>>> has been used as well. Whatever it was it disappeared into the noise an 
>>>> hour or so after local sunrise. Perhaps I'll see it again tonight.
>>>>
>>>> Groundwave is decent here on 136 kHz WSPR2. At 600 miles WG2XXM has 
>>>> decoded a couple of time in the few minutes I've been monitoring. No 
>>>> hint of WH2XXR last night while WH2XND was decent. Can't help but 
>>>> wonder if WSPR15 would have been able to decode XXR.
>>>
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 17 11:15:01 2015
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 08:15:01 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] 136 KHz WSPR here
Message-ID: <1445094901.28175.YahooMailBasic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Greetings all:

I was pleased with the overall results from last night here.. Despite the flame-thrower MSK
signal on 135.9 KHz, along with +20 dB powerline buzz ( the NB really helps with that ),
the static crashes were very minimal.. By morning when I checked; the colder temps
possibly caused something to contract, and the big buzz is gone for the moment.. 
My resting S meter reading is S-8 which is quiet for me... My noise that I hear continuously
is a carrier that sounds like it is sending a " pulse " every 9 seconds, and the " pulse "
is 1/2 second long ( roughly ) .. Plus, I have my usual " growlies " that shift around in
frequency..

WSPR Spot count for the night here"

WG2XXM - 222

WH2XND - 120

WH2XRR - 38 , as is normal with weak signals, I saw several traces with no decode..

VE7BDQ, and WE2XPQ - I hoped for, but no joy...

It took all the filtering, and noise reduction I had, to start decoding XRR..  Once the antenna
was peaked for 136 KHz, I put the radio in 2.4 KHz BW.. I shifted the radio's " IF " almost 
fully to the ( + ) side.. this eliminated the carrier of the MSK station.. I used the radio's
NOTCH filter to get rid of as much of the MSK sideband audio as possible.. 
The Noise Blanker dropped the powerline buzz from + 20 down to S-9, and flickering up 
to +5.. I had a very strong offending carrier at 1200 Hz audio.. I use Spectran to feed audio 
into WSJT-X BETA.. With Spectran I used the Band Reject filter to get rid of the 1200 Hz tone.. 
I also use the Denoiser filter to help smooth things out a bit more.. sometimes, it seems to 
help, and sometimes not..

It was fun to have more signal on 2200 meter WSPR to try for.. 73 all, and Good DX :

Andy - KU4XR , EM75xr 

From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 18 15:28:16 2015
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (Lloyd Chastant)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 19:28:16 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] MP
Message-ID: <CAE89MiQc_=-mKLyWCcHkDOJawh64j0P4NL_78Gxsa2SMt+xz-g@mail.gmail.com>

Took a look this afternoon and nice copy on MP hr FM19
Tried for EAR but no go then
lloyd W3NF
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From stanw1le at verizon.net  Sun Oct 18 18:23:55 2015
From: stanw1le at verizon.net (Stan W1LE)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 18:23:55 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Fwd: Wildwood eLoran Transmitter Test Operations
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References: <198d4fa62b8e4d50b57a2e1aa6af3932@MBX082-W1-CO-2.EXCH082.SERVERPOD.NET>
Message-ID: <56241BFB.8040807@verizon.net>

More US based E-LORAN Experimental Operations Next Week


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Date: 	Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:31:44 +0000
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To: 	Stephen Bartlett <Stephen.Bartlett at ursanav.com>



The Wildwood eLoran transmitter will be continuously broadcasting from 
0900 (EDT) on 20 October 2015 through 1800 (EDT) on 22 October 2015. 
Wildwood will be broadcasting as 8970 Master and Secondary.

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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sun Oct 18 18:45:51 2015
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 18:45:51 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] MP
In-Reply-To: <CAE89MiQc_=-mKLyWCcHkDOJawh64j0P4NL_78Gxsa2SMt+xz-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE89MiQc_=-mKLyWCcHkDOJawh64j0P4NL_78Gxsa2SMt+xz-g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <22526B46-C6DE-4C7A-A6E7-5E26528AAD14@hurontel.on.ca>

> Tried for EAR but no go then...

Hello Lloyd....we had heavy wet snow overnight that had all of my antennas sagging.
The helix house was covered as well, so it's likely the antenna system was detuned.
I just checked the FSM on the bedroom window sill, which I use to see if all is well,
and it's showing the usual normal reading again after the snow melted.  Thanks for
the report giving me a cause to check!

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sun Oct 18 21:09:49 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 21:09:49 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] MP, SIW, EAR
In-Reply-To: <22526B46-C6DE-4C7A-A6E7-5E26528AAD14@hurontel.on.ca>
References: <CAE89MiQc_=-mKLyWCcHkDOJawh64j0P4NL_78Gxsa2SMt+xz-g@mail.gmail.com>
	<22526B46-C6DE-4C7A-A6E7-5E26528AAD14@hurontel.on.ca>
Message-ID: <59D8BB3017C04D2DA1FFC58DECB2F920@MichaelSappPC>

Mitch & All: MP was pounding into EN90xn this afternoon dispite your adverse 
ewx condx....15wpm sw ID audible each sequence...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/c41ue5ah40mmhgp/capt00005.jpg?dl=0

My apologies for being .2 Hz low...

Looked for SIW in QRSS30 with gain/contrast 40/40 but now show. So I went to 
QRSS60 and gain/contrast 50/50 and the signal was there, perhaps 2 or 3 dB 
above the -76 ~ -77 peak background noise...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xblgc7djktkpazv/capt00011.jpg?dl=0

Weaker than normal level from SIW from what I have seen since Garry re-lit 
the pilot light on SIW so to say...

EAR just about or at 20dB above the background noise. Difficult to tell as 
those to light tracer carriers almost never fade completely into the 
noise....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r8rcd2ol0avg6q3/capt00018.jpg?dl=0

A few snow showers here today Mitch as I was replacing the small home made 
compression fit connectors to the vacuum
relay that switches my 160m loading coil in/out of my HF elevated ground 
plane... I thought the snow was all my fault for getting the ladder out and 
working on the antenna....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/edr9g4w4lvn36fj/1018133647.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gv7vu5run9c6gdf/1018133723.jpg?dl=0

73 Mike wa3tts



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Bruce McCreath" <weazle at hurontel.on.ca>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] MP


>> Tried for EAR but no go then...
>
> Hello Lloyd....we had heavy wet snow overnight that had all of my antennas 
> sagging.
> The helix house was covered as well, so it's likely the antenna system was 
> detuned.
> I just checked the FSM on the bedroom window sill, which I use to see if 
> all is well,
> and it's showing the usual normal reading again after the snow melted. 
> Thanks for
> the report giving me a cause to check!
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR
>
> LowFER Beacon "EAR"
> 188.830 kHz. QRSS30
> EN93dr
>
>
>
>
>
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Sun Oct 18 21:40:05 2015
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 21:40:05 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] MP, SIW, EAR
In-Reply-To: <59D8BB3017C04D2DA1FFC58DECB2F920@MichaelSappPC>
References: <CAE89MiQc_=-mKLyWCcHkDOJawh64j0P4NL_78Gxsa2SMt+xz-g@mail.gmail.com>
	<22526B46-C6DE-4C7A-A6E7-5E26528AAD14@hurontel.on.ca>
	<59D8BB3017C04D2DA1FFC58DECB2F920@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <FFDD8993-901B-4E08-9F3D-B80F98FAFED6@hurontel.on.ca>

Thanks for the report and Argo screenshot, Mike.  Everything is back in resonance again now that the snow has departed.

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From listread at lwca.org  Sun Oct 18 23:09:48 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 22:09:48 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] First Light
References: <CAE89MiQc_=-mKLyWCcHkDOJawh64j0P4NL_78Gxsa2SMt+xz-g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <069E5D26377C4AA3ABD9B21C2AD19CF2@HPNOTEBOOK>

The term pertains to newly commisioned telescopes, and can probably be 
borrowed for lower frequency photons as well.  Finally got a chance to 
install filters and the ovenized crystal in my new IC-R75 today and hooked 
it to an antenna for the first time.

Technically, "first RF" was WWV at 10 MHz, but the attachment is the first 
_intentional_ RF.  Didn't have a non-metallic tuning tool to trim the 
oscillator, so that will have to wait.  It was only ~2.5 ppm off anyway, but 
it took some hunting to find my targets...I forgot this thing does LSB CW!

MP looked much the same as it did on the Kenwood during the noon hour, 
except not subject to minor frequency drifts as the wind speed increased or 
decreased through the building, while the inverted S of SIW was coming in 
distinctly clearer near sunset than it did in mid-afternoon.

Earlier, on the Kenwood where everything was right-side-up frequency wise, I 
heard XXM testing in WSPR2 mode considerably down the slope of the CW filter 
while I was capturing MP on 2200m. But nonetheless, when I lied to WSPR 
about dial frequency and BFO to fit XXM in, it was able to give -1 to +1 dB 
SNRr at 256 km distance with 0.2W.  He was there later when I got the Icom 
going, but I had to use USB mode then.  Also used the Icom for my first 
spots of XIQ and XXP on 630m about an hour after sunset.  Switched back to 
the Kenwood then, readjusted the audio level to the computer a smidgen, and 
packed the Icom to return it to town.

Heading back out now to see who else I've snagged.

John
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sun Oct 18 23:32:44 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 23:32:44 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] First Light
In-Reply-To: <069E5D26377C4AA3ABD9B21C2AD19CF2@HPNOTEBOOK>
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	<069E5D26377C4AA3ABD9B21C2AD19CF2@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <7B8CF523DAFA4BE7B5F856E45EE737D1@MichaelSappPC>

JD: You certainly had a much better  SIW capture than me today around same 
late afternoon/early evening time frame. Copy was difficult here on SIW.... 
congrats on the upgrade....

I spent several hours on Saturday removing rusty fasteners from the base of 
my HF ground plane and replacing with stainless
hardware. It will be interesting to see if I have banished any more noise 
gremlins from the near proximity of my MF/LF EWE antennas (which are near 
the ends of the GP radials).  So far it's rather quiet RF wise tonite, but 
that could be in part due to light snow/rain today....

73 Mike wa3tts


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JD" <listread at lwca.org>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 11:09 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] First Light


> The term pertains to newly commisioned telescopes, and can probably be
> borrowed for lower frequency photons as well.  Finally got a chance to
> install filters and the ovenized crystal in my new IC-R75 today and hooked
> it to an antenna for the first time.
>
> Technically, "first RF" was WWV at 10 MHz, but the attachment is the first
> _intentional_ RF.  Didn't have a non-metallic tuning tool to trim the
> oscillator, so that will have to wait.  It was only ~2.5 ppm off anyway, 
> but
> it took some hunting to find my targets...I forgot this thing does LSB CW!
>
> MP looked much the same as it did on the Kenwood during the noon hour,
> except not subject to minor frequency drifts as the wind speed increased 
> or
> decreased through the building, while the inverted S of SIW was coming in
> distinctly clearer near sunset than it did in mid-afternoon.
>
> Earlier, on the Kenwood where everything was right-side-up frequency wise, 
> I
> heard XXM testing in WSPR2 mode considerably down the slope of the CW 
> filter
> while I was capturing MP on 2200m. But nonetheless, when I lied to WSPR
> about dial frequency and BFO to fit XXM in, it was able to give -1 to +1 
> dB
> SNRr at 256 km distance with 0.2W.  He was there later when I got the Icom
> going, but I had to use USB mode then.  Also used the Icom for my first
> spots of XIQ and XXP on 630m about an hour after sunset.  Switched back to
> the Kenwood then, readjusted the audio level to the computer a smidgen, 
> and
> packed the Icom to return it to town.
>
> Heading back out now to see who else I've snagged.
>
> John
>


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From w1tag at charter.net  Mon Oct 19 13:38:09 2015
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:38:09 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] EAR Daytime
Message-ID: <56252A81.30405@charter.net>

J.B.,

Have done this before in other years, but here's a shot of EAR this 
morning around 1435 UTC at our "summer" QTH in Raymond, Maine. Does not 
feel "summery" this week! Anyway, the distance is 561 miles, which isn't 
bad for mid-morning. You're in a mid-day fade now. Attempts at this over 
the summer and in early September were negative. Cold WX helps!

John, W1TAG/1
FN43sv
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From ve3ot.mp at gmail.com  Mon Oct 19 13:56:54 2015
From: ve3ot.mp at gmail.com (Mitch Powell)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:56:54 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] MP
In-Reply-To: <CAE89MiQc_=-mKLyWCcHkDOJawh64j0P4NL_78Gxsa2SMt+xz-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE89MiQc_=-mKLyWCcHkDOJawh64j0P4NL_78Gxsa2SMt+xz-g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL-Prc39GVKNZedybbY3D7f=pb2iKKSAWkWwssvC_hS_ki7UZg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Lloyd - nice to get a capture again from you. Filling in the various
directions and distances. Usual 200 watts dc, and loop with approx 18 amps
supplied for the birds sitting on the wires .
73
Mitch

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Lloyd Chastant <lloydc6 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Took a look this afternoon and nice copy on MP hr FM19
> Tried for EAR but no go then
> lloyd W3NF
>
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Mon Oct 19 18:39:44 2015
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:39:44 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] EAR Daytime
In-Reply-To: <56252A81.30405@charter.net>
References: <56252A81.30405@charter.net>
Message-ID: <42DF414A-553A-4E54-AEE0-0ADAF90DC582@hurontel.on.ca>

Hi John....thanks for the report and Argo snip from Raymond, Maine.  Are the trees in full colour there?
Many years ago I drove from home to Kennebunkport in a 16 hour marathon to spend thanksgiving
with friends.  I still recall the beauty of the place in its full fall colours.  

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Mon Oct 19 19:25:32 2015
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 19:25:32 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Tacamo 17.8 kHz alert
Message-ID: <007d01d10ac5$7366ff60$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Just happened to walk by the VLF computer and noticed the big Tacamo signal ...

http://www.w1vd.com/VLF101915.jpg . 

Live VLF on grabber 2 and 3 at http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html .

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

From w1tag at charter.net  Mon Oct 19 19:51:34 2015
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 19:51:34 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] EAR Daytime
In-Reply-To: <42DF414A-553A-4E54-AEE0-0ADAF90DC582@hurontel.on.ca>
References: <56252A81.30405@charter.net>
	<42DF414A-553A-4E54-AEE0-0ADAF90DC582@hurontel.on.ca>
Message-ID: <56258206.4080504@charter.net>

J.B.,

The fall colors have been pretty good this year. We are in the yellow 
phase now as you look out into the woods, and most of the bright reds 
and oranges have faded. Kennebunkport is about an hour away -- my 
daughter used to work there, and was married there, so we have been down 
that way a lot.

Thanks for keeping EAR on. TAG will be back on the air next week, for 
the winter.

John, W1TAG

On 10/19/2015 6:39 PM, John Bruce McCreath wrote:
> Hi John....thanks for the report and Argo snip from Raymond, Maine.  Are the trees in full colour there?
> Many years ago I drove from home to Kennebunkport in a 16 hour marathon to spend thanksgiving
> with friends.  I still recall the beauty of the place in its full fall colours.
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR
>
> LowFER Beacon "EAR"
> 188.830 kHz. QRSS30
> EN93dr
>
>
>
>
>
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From williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 08:03:23 2015
From: williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com (Douglas Williams)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 08:03:23 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] First Light
In-Reply-To: <069E5D26377C4AA3ABD9B21C2AD19CF2@HPNOTEBOOK>
References: <CAE89MiQc_=-mKLyWCcHkDOJawh64j0P4NL_78Gxsa2SMt+xz-g@mail.gmail.com>
	<069E5D26377C4AA3ABD9B21C2AD19CF2@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <CAEJzK2AXYvkssJ6d3qLqd5dAuo6RcYzjmxyRNz2rBt1oJ1R4Rw@mail.gmail.com>

John, IIRC the R75 has a "reverse" mode that puts it USB mode for CW. Which
filters did you opt for?

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 11:09 PM, JD <listread at lwca.org> wrote:

> The term pertains to newly commisioned telescopes, and can probably be
> borrowed for lower frequency photons as well.  Finally got a chance to
> install filters and the ovenized crystal in my new IC-R75 today and hooked
> it to an antenna for the first time.
>
> Technically, "first RF" was WWV at 10 MHz, but the attachment is the first
> _intentional_ RF.  Didn't have a non-metallic tuning tool to trim the
> oscillator, so that will have to wait.  It was only ~2.5 ppm off anyway,
> but it took some hunting to find my targets...I forgot this thing does LSB
> CW!
>
> MP looked much the same as it did on the Kenwood during the noon hour,
> except not subject to minor frequency drifts as the wind speed increased or
> decreased through the building, while the inverted S of SIW was coming in
> distinctly clearer near sunset than it did in mid-afternoon.
>
> Earlier, on the Kenwood where everything was right-side-up frequency wise,
> I heard XXM testing in WSPR2 mode considerably down the slope of the CW
> filter while I was capturing MP on 2200m. But nonetheless, when I lied to
> WSPR about dial frequency and BFO to fit XXM in, it was able to give -1 to
> +1 dB SNRr at 256 km distance with 0.2W.  He was there later when I got the
> Icom going, but I had to use USB mode then.  Also used the Icom for my
> first spots of XIQ and XXP on 630m about an hour after sunset.  Switched
> back to the Kenwood then, readjusted the audio level to the computer a
> smidgen, and packed the Icom to return it to town.
>
> Heading back out now to see who else I've snagged.
>
> John
>
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From listread at lwca.org  Tue Oct 20 11:13:23 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 10:13:23 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] First Light
References: <CAE89MiQc_=-mKLyWCcHkDOJawh64j0P4NL_78Gxsa2SMt+xz-g@mail.gmail.com><069E5D26377C4AA3ABD9B21C2AD19CF2@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<CAEJzK2AXYvkssJ6d3qLqd5dAuo6RcYzjmxyRNz2rBt1oJ1R4Rw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C920DEC9249D45ADB2E58F7D949115D4@HPNOTEBOOK>

Hi Doug, you recall correctly. It does have the "reverse CW" capability, but 
apparently I'm having a time getting used to the supposed 2-second key 
presses that activate options like that on certain buttons, including CW 
mode.  Seems to me they don't always wait for "one-Mississippi, 
two-Mississippi" and they've already done their thing before I notice that 
they have. :)

Filters have gotten hard to find for the R75, but I managed to locate a 
narrow 9 MHz SSB filter (FL-223) and narrow 455 kHz CW filter (FL-53A, 
BW=250 Hz).  I'd sorta prefer to have a choice of medium and narrow width CW 
filters instead, but when you arrive late for the party you take what's 
available.  They seem to work well, but apparently I haven't interpreted the 
rather cryptic setup instructions correctly yet, as the normal, wide, and 
narrow options in each mode definitely work, but don't always seem to match 
what I'm hearing by ear when I step through them.

Contrary to a few things I've read online, both preamps are available down 
to 2200 m (though they don't seem active at 60 kHz).  I don't seem to need 
them with my antenna, and in fact, using them actually makes the noise 
blanker less effective! Without the preamps, it's a wonderfully effective 
and transparent blanker for everyday clicks and pops; much better than my 
trusty ol' Kenwoods. Haven't tried it under really noisy conditions yet, but 
I believe the blanker is what made my early evening trace of SIW so much 
cleaner looking than the afternoon trace, because there was no evident 
change in either signal or average noise levels yet at that time...only no 
pops and clicks to disrupt Argo.

Among some of its other good points are the front panel layout, the 
readability of the display, and the ease of entering frequencies directly. 
Overall, I really like this radio.

John 


From williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 12:42:07 2015
From: williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com (Douglas Williams)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 12:42:07 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] First Light
In-Reply-To: <C920DEC9249D45ADB2E58F7D949115D4@HPNOTEBOOK>
References: <CAE89MiQc_=-mKLyWCcHkDOJawh64j0P4NL_78Gxsa2SMt+xz-g@mail.gmail.com>
	<069E5D26377C4AA3ABD9B21C2AD19CF2@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<CAEJzK2AXYvkssJ6d3qLqd5dAuo6RcYzjmxyRNz2rBt1oJ1R4Rw@mail.gmail.com>
	<C920DEC9249D45ADB2E58F7D949115D4@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <CAEJzK2D+cSPjt6Rii+0T6ZBfFnOD9eYtQ6QMBDFdDu+TFzbPXg@mail.gmail.com>

It's a great receiver for the price. When you set it to CW Reverse, you
will see "REV" in the upper left corner of the display. I put mine in
reverse mode the day I unboxed it, and it's been that way ever since. I'm
pretty sure I have a spare 500 Hz IF CW filter (Icom brand) in my closet.
The reason I have it is because I decided to go with two 250 Hz IF filters
a couple years after I bought the R75. I would be willing to let it go
cheap. E-mail me directly if interested.

I use my R75 in combination with a Todd Roberts ovenized AMRAD LF
converter. I find the combination to be easily stable enough (in the house)
for QRSS60 (slow).

Doug KB4OER



On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 11:13 AM, JD <listread at lwca.org> wrote:

> Hi Doug, you recall correctly. It does have the "reverse CW" capability,
> but apparently I'm having a time getting used to the supposed 2-second key
> presses that activate options like that on certain buttons, including CW
> mode.  Seems to me they don't always wait for "one-Mississippi,
> two-Mississippi" and they've already done their thing before I notice that
> they have. :)
>
> Filters have gotten hard to find for the R75, but I managed to locate a
> narrow 9 MHz SSB filter (FL-223) and narrow 455 kHz CW filter (FL-53A,
> BW=250 Hz).  I'd sorta prefer to have a choice of medium and narrow width
> CW filters instead, but when you arrive late for the party you take what's
> available.  They seem to work well, but apparently I haven't interpreted
> the rather cryptic setup instructions correctly yet, as the normal, wide,
> and narrow options in each mode definitely work, but don't always seem to
> match what I'm hearing by ear when I step through them.
>
> Contrary to a few things I've read online, both preamps are available down
> to 2200 m (though they don't seem active at 60 kHz).  I don't seem to need
> them with my antenna, and in fact, using them actually makes the noise
> blanker less effective! Without the preamps, it's a wonderfully effective
> and transparent blanker for everyday clicks and pops; much better than my
> trusty ol' Kenwoods. Haven't tried it under really noisy conditions yet,
> but I believe the blanker is what made my early evening trace of SIW so
> much cleaner looking than the afternoon trace, because there was no evident
> change in either signal or average noise levels yet at that time...only no
> pops and clicks to disrupt Argo.
>
> Among some of its other good points are the front panel layout, the
> readability of the display, and the ease of entering frequencies directly.
> Overall, I really like this radio.
>
>
> John
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From ve3ot.mp at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 16:19:55 2015
From: ve3ot.mp at gmail.com (Mitch Powell)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 16:19:55 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] MP, SIW, EAR
In-Reply-To: <59D8BB3017C04D2DA1FFC58DECB2F920@MichaelSappPC>
References: <CAE89MiQc_=-mKLyWCcHkDOJawh64j0P4NL_78Gxsa2SMt+xz-g@mail.gmail.com>
	<22526B46-C6DE-4C7A-A6E7-5E26528AAD14@hurontel.on.ca>
	<59D8BB3017C04D2DA1FFC58DECB2F920@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <CAL-Prc1QozqRKrPbkZTCk9yVNVukQNrw3Tzf9w7yK-D5AUFo2w@mail.gmail.com>

Mike:
You do realize that the only proper time to work on antennas is when the
temperature is just below freezing. This results in superior results
compared to working on a nice Fall day with warm breezes and sunshine. But
then, I still believe in Santa Claus :-)
Thanks for the report.
Mitch

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:

> Mitch & All: MP was pounding into EN90xn this afternoon dispite your
> adverse ewx condx....15wpm sw ID audible each sequence...
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/c41ue5ah40mmhgp/capt00005.jpg?dl=0
>
> My apologies for being .2 Hz low...
>
> Looked for SIW in QRSS30 with gain/contrast 40/40 but now show. So I went
> to QRSS60 and gain/contrast 50/50 and the signal was there, perhaps 2 or 3
> dB above the -76 ~ -77 peak background noise...
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/xblgc7djktkpazv/capt00011.jpg?dl=0
>
> Weaker than normal level from SIW from what I have seen since Garry re-lit
> the pilot light on SIW so to say...
>
> EAR just about or at 20dB above the background noise. Difficult to tell as
> those to light tracer carriers almost never fade completely into the
> noise....
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/r8rcd2ol0avg6q3/capt00018.jpg?dl=0
>
> A few snow showers here today Mitch as I was replacing the small home made
> compression fit connectors to the vacuum
> relay that switches my 160m loading coil in/out of my HF elevated ground
> plane... I thought the snow was all my fault for getting the ladder out and
> working on the antenna....
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/edr9g4w4lvn36fj/1018133647.jpg?dl=0
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gv7vu5run9c6gdf/1018133723.jpg?dl=0
>
> 73 Mike wa3tts
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bruce McCreath" <
> weazle at hurontel.on.ca>
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <
> lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 6:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] MP
>
>
> Tried for EAR but no go then...
>>>
>>
>> Hello Lloyd....we had heavy wet snow overnight that had all of my
>> antennas sagging.
>> The helix house was covered as well, so it's likely the antenna system
>> was detuned.
>> I just checked the FSM on the bedroom window sill, which I use to see if
>> all is well,
>> and it's showing the usual normal reading again after the snow melted.
>> Thanks for
>> the report giving me a cause to check!
>>
>> 73, J.B., VE3EAR
>>
>> LowFER Beacon "EAR"
>> 188.830 kHz. QRSS30
>> EN93dr
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 19:23:18 2015
From: williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com (Douglas Williams)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 19:23:18 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR LF
Message-ID: <CAEJzK2C65bHF0mwwzbZXD=WbN64UidEVeeKa4v7u_xmEdASnPQ@mail.gmail.com>

So, what's up on LF WSPR this evening?  I have the receiver dial set on
136.000 WSPR2. Are any stations transmitting WSPR15?

Doug KB4OER

From w1tag at charter.net  Tue Oct 20 19:43:39 2015
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 19:43:39 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR LF
In-Reply-To: <CAEJzK2C65bHF0mwwzbZXD=WbN64UidEVeeKa4v7u_xmEdASnPQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEJzK2C65bHF0mwwzbZXD=WbN64UidEVeeKa4v7u_xmEdASnPQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5626D1AB.3080205@charter.net>

Doug,

Ken, WG2XXM is on WSPR2. No WSPR15-style decode times from EU appear on 
the WSPR Database.

WSPR15 is a nice mode for LF, but I've had a bunch of problems with 
being able to run WSPR-X on the computer at home, and the one up here in 
Maine. The Maine issue appears to be related to a lightning hit during 
the summer that blew out the Ethernet port. The issue at home is unknown.

John, W1TAG/1

On 10/20/2015 7:23 PM, Douglas Williams wrote:
> So, what's up on LF WSPR this evening?  I have the receiver dial set on
> 136.000 WSPR2. Are any stations transmitting WSPR15?
>
> Doug KB4OER
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From williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 19:48:17 2015
From: williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com (Douglas Williams)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 19:48:17 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR LF
In-Reply-To: <5626D1AB.3080205@charter.net>
References: <CAEJzK2C65bHF0mwwzbZXD=WbN64UidEVeeKa4v7u_xmEdASnPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<5626D1AB.3080205@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CAEJzK2DtLRcy5dFp7RdaE731Wsu2BxPNhyTOi2kko4M=KH8ojw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, John. I switched to 630 meters WSPR2 just to make sure everything
is working properly and got a few decodes. Now I've switched back to 2200
meters WSPR2.

A shame there is so little activity using WSPR15 on LF.

D.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 7:43 PM, John Andrews <w1tag at charter.net> wrote:

> Doug,
>
> Ken, WG2XXM is on WSPR2. No WSPR15-style decode times from EU appear on
> the WSPR Database.
>
> WSPR15 is a nice mode for LF, but I've had a bunch of problems with being
> able to run WSPR-X on the computer at home, and the one up here in Maine.
> The Maine issue appears to be related to a lightning hit during the summer
> that blew out the Ethernet port. The issue at home is unknown.
>
> John, W1TAG/1
>
>
> On 10/20/2015 7:23 PM, Douglas Williams wrote:
>
>> So, what's up on LF WSPR this evening?  I have the receiver dial set on
>> 136.000 WSPR2. Are any stations transmitting WSPR15?
>>
>> Doug KB4OER
>> ______________________________________________________________
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From williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 20:13:25 2015
From: williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com (Douglas Williams)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 20:13:25 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR LF
In-Reply-To: <CAEJzK2DtLRcy5dFp7RdaE731Wsu2BxPNhyTOi2kko4M=KH8ojw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEJzK2C65bHF0mwwzbZXD=WbN64UidEVeeKa4v7u_xmEdASnPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<5626D1AB.3080205@charter.net>
	<CAEJzK2DtLRcy5dFp7RdaE731Wsu2BxPNhyTOi2kko4M=KH8ojw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEJzK2Ak8BnXF9eZDemheVFKTAsfqTWC-k-YsGsZDQ8JTXEBwg@mail.gmail.com>

And my first WSPR2 XXM decode at 0008 UTC.

Why is anyone even fooling with WSPR2 at LF? Am I overlooking something?
WSPR15 is so much better.



On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Douglas Williams <
williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, John. I switched to 630 meters WSPR2 just to make sure everything
> is working properly and got a few decodes. Now I've switched back to 2200
> meters WSPR2.
>
> A shame there is so little activity using WSPR15 on LF.
>
> D.
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 7:43 PM, John Andrews <w1tag at charter.net> wrote:
>
>> Doug,
>>
>> Ken, WG2XXM is on WSPR2. No WSPR15-style decode times from EU appear on
>> the WSPR Database.
>>
>> WSPR15 is a nice mode for LF, but I've had a bunch of problems with being
>> able to run WSPR-X on the computer at home, and the one up here in Maine.
>> The Maine issue appears to be related to a lightning hit during the summer
>> that blew out the Ethernet port. The issue at home is unknown.
>>
>> John, W1TAG/1
>>
>>
>> On 10/20/2015 7:23 PM, Douglas Williams wrote:
>>
>>> So, what's up on LF WSPR this evening?  I have the receiver dial set on
>>> 136.000 WSPR2. Are any stations transmitting WSPR15?
>>>
>>> Doug KB4OER
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Tue Oct 20 21:48:41 2015
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 21:48:41 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR LF
References: <CAEJzK2C65bHF0mwwzbZXD=WbN64UidEVeeKa4v7u_xmEdASnPQ@mail.gmail.com><5626D1AB.3080205@charter.net><CAEJzK2DtLRcy5dFp7RdaE731Wsu2BxPNhyTOi2kko4M=KH8ojw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEJzK2Ak8BnXF9eZDemheVFKTAsfqTWC-k-YsGsZDQ8JTXEBwg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003f01d10ba2$9d31a920$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

> Why is anyone even fooling with WSPR2 at LF?

Since WSPR2 is entirely adequate? I have routine copy of WH2XRR (498 km), WG2XXM (2195 km) and 
WH2XND (3507 km) in WSPR2. WH2XND has been copied by K9FD/KH6 (4630 km) and KL7L (4059 km) in WSPR2. 
What more could you ask for?

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Douglas Williams" <williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European,& UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WSPR LF


> And my first WSPR2 XXM decode at 0008 UTC.
>
> Why is anyone even fooling with WSPR2 at LF? Am I overlooking something?
> WSPR15 is so much better.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Douglas Williams <
> williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, John. I switched to 630 meters WSPR2 just to make sure everything
>> is working properly and got a few decodes. Now I've switched back to 2200
>> meters WSPR2.
>>
>> A shame there is so little activity using WSPR15 on LF.
>>
>> D.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 7:43 PM, John Andrews <w1tag at charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Doug,
>>>
>>> Ken, WG2XXM is on WSPR2. No WSPR15-style decode times from EU appear on
>>> the WSPR Database.
>>>
>>> WSPR15 is a nice mode for LF, but I've had a bunch of problems with being
>>> able to run WSPR-X on the computer at home, and the one up here in Maine.
>>> The Maine issue appears to be related to a lightning hit during the summer
>>> that blew out the Ethernet port. The issue at home is unknown.
>>>
>>> John, W1TAG/1
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/20/2015 7:23 PM, Douglas Williams wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, what's up on LF WSPR this evening?  I have the receiver dial set on
>>>> 136.000 WSPR2. Are any stations transmitting WSPR15?
>>>>
>>>> Doug KB4OER
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 22:32:35 2015
From: williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com (Douglas Williams)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 22:32:35 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR LF
In-Reply-To: <003f01d10ba2$9d31a920$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <CAEJzK2C65bHF0mwwzbZXD=WbN64UidEVeeKa4v7u_xmEdASnPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<5626D1AB.3080205@charter.net>
	<CAEJzK2DtLRcy5dFp7RdaE731Wsu2BxPNhyTOi2kko4M=KH8ojw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEJzK2Ak8BnXF9eZDemheVFKTAsfqTWC-k-YsGsZDQ8JTXEBwg@mail.gmail.com>
	<003f01d10ba2$9d31a920$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
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Transatlantic.

I believe I copied DK7FC on WSPR2 one time a year or so ago. Copied him
several times using WSPR15.


On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 9:48 PM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:

> Why is anyone even fooling with WSPR2 at LF?
>>
>
> Since WSPR2 is entirely adequate? I have routine copy of WH2XRR (498 km),
> WG2XXM (2195 km) and WH2XND (3507 km) in WSPR2. WH2XND has been copied by
> K9FD/KH6 (4630 km) and KL7L (4059 km) in WSPR2. What more could you ask for?
>
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Williams" <
> williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European,& UK) and MedFer bands" <
> lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 8:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WSPR LF
>
>
>
> And my first WSPR2 XXM decode at 0008 UTC.
>>
>> Why is anyone even fooling with WSPR2 at LF? Am I overlooking something?
>> WSPR15 is so much better.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Douglas Williams <
>> williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, John. I switched to 630 meters WSPR2 just to make sure everything
>>> is working properly and got a few decodes. Now I've switched back to 2200
>>> meters WSPR2.
>>>
>>> A shame there is so little activity using WSPR15 on LF.
>>>
>>> D.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 7:43 PM, John Andrews <w1tag at charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Doug,
>>>>
>>>> Ken, WG2XXM is on WSPR2. No WSPR15-style decode times from EU appear on
>>>> the WSPR Database.
>>>>
>>>> WSPR15 is a nice mode for LF, but I've had a bunch of problems with
>>>> being
>>>> able to run WSPR-X on the computer at home, and the one up here in
>>>> Maine.
>>>> The Maine issue appears to be related to a lightning hit during the
>>>> summer
>>>> that blew out the Ethernet port. The issue at home is unknown.
>>>>
>>>> John, W1TAG/1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/20/2015 7:23 PM, Douglas Williams wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So, what's up on LF WSPR this evening?  I have the receiver dial set on
>>>>> 136.000 WSPR2. Are any stations transmitting WSPR15?
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug KB4OER
>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>> Lowfer mailing list
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Tue Oct 20 23:23:43 2015
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 23:23:43 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR LF
References: <CAEJzK2C65bHF0mwwzbZXD=WbN64UidEVeeKa4v7u_xmEdASnPQ@mail.gmail.com><5626D1AB.3080205@charter.net><CAEJzK2DtLRcy5dFp7RdaE731Wsu2BxPNhyTOi2kko4M=KH8ojw@mail.gmail.com><CAEJzK2Ak8BnXF9eZDemheVFKTAsfqTWC-k-YsGsZDQ8JTXEBwg@mail.gmail.com><003f01d10ba2$9d31a920$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<CAEJzK2D7UQZKzoh49aGyqG3btX59Qoe5-Z4i1gW+n2=EC7MT2w@mail.gmail.com>
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With the DST at unfavorable levels since OCT 1 there hasn't been much hope for T/A reception of late 
... so WSPR2 during this period makes sense. When T/A conditions improve, and we get further into 
the season (less QRN), I'm sure some stations will switch to WSPR15.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Douglas Williams" <williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European,& UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WSPR LF


> Transatlantic.
>
> I believe I copied DK7FC on WSPR2 one time a year or so ago. Copied him
> several times using WSPR15.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 9:48 PM, <jrusgrove at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Why is anyone even fooling with WSPR2 at LF?
>>>
>>
>> Since WSPR2 is entirely adequate? I have routine copy of WH2XRR (498 km),
>> WG2XXM (2195 km) and WH2XND (3507 km) in WSPR2. WH2XND has been copied by
>> K9FD/KH6 (4630 km) and KL7L (4059 km) in WSPR2. What more could you ask for?
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Williams" <
>> williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European,& UK) and MedFer bands" <
>> lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 8:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WSPR LF
>>
>>
>>
>> And my first WSPR2 XXM decode at 0008 UTC.
>>>
>>> Why is anyone even fooling with WSPR2 at LF? Am I overlooking something?
>>> WSPR15 is so much better.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Douglas Williams <
>>> williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, John. I switched to 630 meters WSPR2 just to make sure everything
>>>> is working properly and got a few decodes. Now I've switched back to 2200
>>>> meters WSPR2.
>>>>
>>>> A shame there is so little activity using WSPR15 on LF.
>>>>
>>>> D.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 7:43 PM, John Andrews <w1tag at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Doug,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken, WG2XXM is on WSPR2. No WSPR15-style decode times from EU appear on
>>>>> the WSPR Database.
>>>>>
>>>>> WSPR15 is a nice mode for LF, but I've had a bunch of problems with
>>>>> being
>>>>> able to run WSPR-X on the computer at home, and the one up here in
>>>>> Maine.
>>>>> The Maine issue appears to be related to a lightning hit during the
>>>>> summer
>>>>> that blew out the Ethernet port. The issue at home is unknown.
>>>>>
>>>>> John, W1TAG/1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/20/2015 7:23 PM, Douglas Williams wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So, what's up on LF WSPR this evening?  I have the receiver dial set on
>>>>>> 136.000 WSPR2. Are any stations transmitting WSPR15?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doug KB4OER
>>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>>> Lowfer mailing list
>>>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/lowfer
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From listread at lwca.org  Wed Oct 21 02:32:20 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 01:32:20 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR LF
References: <CAEJzK2C65bHF0mwwzbZXD=WbN64UidEVeeKa4v7u_xmEdASnPQ@mail.gmail.com><5626D1AB.3080205@charter.net><CAEJzK2DtLRcy5dFp7RdaE731Wsu2BxPNhyTOi2kko4M=KH8ojw@mail.gmail.com><CAEJzK2Ak8BnXF9eZDemheVFKTAsfqTWC-k-YsGsZDQ8JTXEBwg@mail.gmail.com><003f01d10ba2$9d31a920$6401a8c0@JAYDELL><CAEJzK2D7UQZKzoh49aGyqG3btX59Qoe5-Z4i1gW+n2=EC7MT2w@mail.gmail.com>
	<006c01d10baf$e3eb0e30$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <D918A4D6520E4F1FAC035C0E4A53FDEF@HPNOTEBOOK>

While T/A is a worthy objective, I suggest that there is still much to be 
attempted in the way of transcontinental communication, not to mention 
exploration and exploitation of the band's daytime groundwave potential. 
WSPR-15 would be an excellent tool for learning what's possible right here 
at home.

John 

From williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 08:29:08 2015
From: williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com (Douglas Williams)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 08:29:08 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR LF
In-Reply-To: <D918A4D6520E4F1FAC035C0E4A53FDEF@HPNOTEBOOK>
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	<5626D1AB.3080205@charter.net>
	<CAEJzK2DtLRcy5dFp7RdaE731Wsu2BxPNhyTOi2kko4M=KH8ojw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEJzK2Ak8BnXF9eZDemheVFKTAsfqTWC-k-YsGsZDQ8JTXEBwg@mail.gmail.com>
	<003f01d10ba2$9d31a920$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<CAEJzK2D7UQZKzoh49aGyqG3btX59Qoe5-Z4i1gW+n2=EC7MT2w@mail.gmail.com>
	<006c01d10baf$e3eb0e30$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
	<D918A4D6520E4F1FAC035C0E4A53FDEF@HPNOTEBOOK>
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If I recall, some experiments were done a few years ago comparing WSPR with
QRSS. Again, if memory serves, WSPR2 was determined to be roughly
equivalent to QRSS3 and WSPR15 equivalent to QRSS30.

Managed multiple decodes of WG2XXM last night, but for some reason, WSPRX
didn't upload the spots to the database, even though the box was checked.

Here is a copy/paste of the log from the WSPRX screen, in case XXM is
keeping a reception record:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33457409/xxm.txt

-Doug KB4OER



On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 2:32 AM, JD <listread at lwca.org> wrote:

> While T/A is a worthy objective, I suggest that there is still much to be
> attempted in the way of transcontinental communication, not to mention
> exploration and exploitation of the band's daytime groundwave potential.
> WSPR-15 would be an excellent tool for learning what's possible right here
> at home.
>
> John
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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 21 10:31:50 2015
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 07:31:50 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR LF
In-Reply-To: <CAEJzK2CCnpckhMYw3_VrqK5AZ8ctJ0FK4_uFyHpcAOaUWv0H5A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1445437910.40968.YahooMailBasic@web125302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

>>for some reason, WSPRX didn't upload the spots to the database, even though the 
>>box was checked.

Hi Doug:

I've had that same issue also, as well as sspots not uploading with every version of WSPR 
at some point in time.. There are 2 ways to get the spots uploaded.. you can manually 
upload them on the website, from your computer file, ... OR ... close, and re-open the
program, and after one complete receive cycle, all spots not uploaded will do so at
that time, and update the database...

73 :

Andy - KU4XR
--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 10/21/15, Douglas Williams <williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WSPR LF
 To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
 Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 8:29 AM
 
 If I recall, some
 experiments were done a few years ago comparing WSPR with
 QRSS. Again, if memory serves, WSPR2 was
 determined to be roughly
 equivalent to QRSS3
 and WSPR15 equivalent to QRSS30.
 
 Managed multiple decodes of WG2XXM last night,
 but for some reason, WSPRX
 didn't upload
 the spots to the database, even though the box was
 checked.
 
 Here is a
 copy/paste of the log from the WSPRX screen, in case XXM
 is
 keeping a reception record:
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33457409/xxm.txt
 
 -Doug KB4OER
 
 
 
 On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 2:32 AM, JD <listread at lwca.org>
 wrote:
 
 > While T/A is a
 worthy objective, I suggest that there is still much to
 be
 > attempted in the way of
 transcontinental communication, not to mention
 > exploration and exploitation of the
 band's daytime groundwave potential.
 > WSPR-15 would be an excellent tool for
 learning what's possible right here
 >
 at home.
 >
 > John
 >
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From williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 17:57:34 2015
From: williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com (Douglas Williams)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 17:57:34 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] WSPR LF
In-Reply-To: <1445437910.40968.YahooMailBasic@web125302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAEJzK2CCnpckhMYw3_VrqK5AZ8ctJ0FK4_uFyHpcAOaUWv0H5A@mail.gmail.com>
	<1445437910.40968.YahooMailBasic@web125302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEJzK2BD3=Rn7Oo27K3w8cKkBKZLQ3Q2ieyeR+iSQUkwFR_NaQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Andy.

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Andy - KU4XR via Lowfer <
lowfer at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> >>for some reason, WSPRX didn't upload the spots to the database, even
> though the
> >>box was checked.
>
> Hi Doug:
>
> I've had that same issue also, as well as sspots not uploading with every
> version of WSPR
> at some point in time.. There are 2 ways to get the spots uploaded.. you
> can manually
> upload them on the website, from your computer file, ... OR ... close, and
> re-open the
> program, and after one complete receive cycle, all spots not uploaded will
> do so at
> that time, and update the database...
>
> 73 :
>
> Andy - KU4XR
> --------------------------------------------
> On Wed, 10/21/15, Douglas Williams <williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [Lowfer] WSPR LF
>  To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <
> lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>  Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 8:29 AM
>
>  If I recall, some
>  experiments were done a few years ago comparing WSPR with
>  QRSS. Again, if memory serves, WSPR2 was
>  determined to be roughly
>  equivalent to QRSS3
>  and WSPR15 equivalent to QRSS30.
>
>  Managed multiple decodes of WG2XXM last night,
>  but for some reason, WSPRX
>  didn't upload
>  the spots to the database, even though the box was
>  checked.
>
>  Here is a
>  copy/paste of the log from the WSPRX screen, in case XXM
>  is
>  keeping a reception record:
>
>  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33457409/xxm.txt
>
>  -Doug KB4OER
>
>
>
>  On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 2:32 AM, JD <listread at lwca.org>
>  wrote:
>
>  > While T/A is a
>  worthy objective, I suggest that there is still much to
>  be
>  > attempted in the way of
>  transcontinental communication, not to mention
>  > exploration and exploitation of the
>  band's daytime groundwave potential.
>  > WSPR-15 would be an excellent tool for
>  learning what's possible right here
>  >
>  at home.
>  >
>  > John
>  >
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From williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 19:14:16 2015
From: williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com (Douglas Williams)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 19:14:16 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Tonight in TN
Message-ID: <CAEJzK2CEQB-AZLWmuMuw+jTG=eAabMzbQtQQ=SUEOKYt5unAoA@mail.gmail.com>

At the moment got one receiver on 630 meters WSPR2.

Anything interesting happening in LF tonight (WSPR or QRSS)? What Part 15
stations are on the air this early?

D.

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Wed Oct 21 19:27:46 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 19:27:46 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Tonight in TN
In-Reply-To: <CAEJzK2CEQB-AZLWmuMuw+jTG=eAabMzbQtQQ=SUEOKYt5unAoA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEJzK2CEQB-AZLWmuMuw+jTG=eAabMzbQtQQ=SUEOKYt5unAoA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <755799C90DDD4A1981338672475E2CE0@MichaelSappPC>

Doug: There usual suspects hang out at the ON4KST chat  in the kHz chat page 
and announce their intentions. Looks like XXM is off 137.5 now... XRR had 
some arc-over issues a few days ago, so it may be quiet on 137.5 unless XND 
replaces the FET he smoked over the weekend and fires his TX up later on 
tonite.

Never hurts to check the wspr maps....

73, Mike wa3tts


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Douglas Williams" <williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 7:14 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] Tonight in TN


> At the moment got one receiver on 630 meters WSPR2.
>
> Anything interesting happening in LF tonight (WSPR or QRSS)? What Part 15
> stations are on the air this early?
>
> D.
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From listread at lwca.org  Wed Oct 21 21:23:11 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 20:23:11 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Tonight in TN
References: <CAEJzK2CEQB-AZLWmuMuw+jTG=eAabMzbQtQQ=SUEOKYt5unAoA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B1B75A89527040E281849F8AC5F333A0@HPNOTEBOOK>

>>> What Part 15 stations are on the air this early?

EAR always is. The SIW duo has been back for a while, and MLS returned this 
week.  Some of the others may be on but haven't told us yet.

http://lwca.org/sitepage/part15/
http://lwa.org/mb/


From L.Howell at conocophillips.com  Wed Oct 21 23:20:22 2015
From: L.Howell at conocophillips.com (Howell, Laurence J)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 03:20:22 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] 137/475 activity
In-Reply-To: <CAEJzK2CEQB-AZLWmuMuw+jTG=eAabMzbQtQQ=SUEOKYt5unAoA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEJzK2CEQB-AZLWmuMuw+jTG=eAabMzbQtQQ=SUEOKYt5unAoA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2E6E1686-DB33-4BDC-B2FC-2563D2A9B967@conocophillips.com>

gm  - XPQ Alaska will be rx/tx 50pc on 137 from AK local dusk till dawn on wspr2  (also 475kHz)

Station is under full remote control from the UK today and Chicago tomorrow

Tx 800W/1W erp ish on 137 and circa 200/20w on 475

137 antennae has strong nulls N/S at this time.

On4kst chat for latest - conditions on 137 have been lousy!

Laurence G4DMA KL7L WE2XPQ



> On Oct 22, 2015, at 00:15, Douglas Williams <williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> At the moment got one receiver on 630 meters WSPR2.
> 
> Anything interesting happening in LF tonight (WSPR or QRSS)? What Part 15
> stations are on the air this early?
> 
> D.
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Thu Oct 22 15:33:29 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 15:33:29 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer MLS
Message-ID: <D12DAB0463EB4FCDB4BA4389DC0C21F5@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All: MLS is something like 75~80 miles to my NW....since JD mentioned it was back on the air I had to have a look.  It will be good to see TAG back near the watering hole next week....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nlul6vb2anwyol7/capt00012.jpg?dl=0

73,  Mike wa3tts


From williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 19:06:13 2015
From: williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com (Douglas Williams)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:06:13 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer MLS
In-Reply-To: <D12DAB0463EB4FCDB4BA4389DC0C21F5@MichaelSappPC>
References: <D12DAB0463EB4FCDB4BA4389DC0C21F5@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <CAEJzK2DfYXFXE5p5k3KCV+d2g6ZrkUPAim0e6TYNFU7gG+Df0A@mail.gmail.com>

Very nice capture, Mike. I'll give MLS a listen tonight.

Doug KB4OER

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:

> Hi All: MLS is something like 75~80 miles to my NW....since JD mentioned
> it was back on the air I had to have a look.  It will be good to see TAG
> back near the watering hole next week....
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/nlul6vb2anwyol7/capt00012.jpg?dl=0
>
> 73,  Mike wa3tts
>
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From williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 19:11:38 2015
From: williamsdoug1966 at gmail.com (Douglas Williams)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:11:38 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Tonight in TN
In-Reply-To: <B1B75A89527040E281849F8AC5F333A0@HPNOTEBOOK>
References: <CAEJzK2CEQB-AZLWmuMuw+jTG=eAabMzbQtQQ=SUEOKYt5unAoA@mail.gmail.com>
	<B1B75A89527040E281849F8AC5F333A0@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <CAEJzK2C-TL9EZj+yny3P6W5doDVrSS8kMHHNUGO+gc5mTxx9jA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, John. I managed to copy EAR a few days ago. I'll keep an eye out
for SIW. Trying for MLS tonight.

Doug KB4OER



On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 9:23 PM, JD <listread at lwca.org> wrote:

> What Part 15 stations are on the air this early?
>>>>
>>>
> EAR always is. The SIW duo has been back for a while, and MLS returned
> this week.  Some of the others may be on but haven't told us yet.
>
> http://lwca.org/sitepage/part15/
> http://lwa.org/mb/
>
>
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Fri Oct 23 17:49:11 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 17:49:11 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] XRR -16 on 2200m
Message-ID: <9560BB8B8F96471C83BC48C4621AE2FE@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All: WH2XRR is booming in this afternoon with -16 SNRs, maybe a few others can hear his signal before the sun sets....

       2015-10-23 21:42   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05   WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312  
       2015-10-23 21:36   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05   WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312  
       2015-10-23 21:32   WH2XRR   0.137537   -17   0   FM18re   0.05   WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312  
       2015-10-23 21:26   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05   WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312  
       2015-10-23 21:20   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05   WA3TTS   EN90xn   400  312 


73 Mike wa3tts

From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 18:30:57 2015
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (Lloyd Chastant)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 22:30:57 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] XRR -16 on 2200m
In-Reply-To: <9560BB8B8F96471C83BC48C4621AE2FE@MichaelSappPC>
References: <9560BB8B8F96471C83BC48C4621AE2FE@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <CAE89MiQLsmx6DbpZnRedLEE9=gUsm2dYJ505PU9N_hGE0d0waQ@mail.gmail.com>

yes nice copy her also
Lloyd W3NF

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:

> Hi All: WH2XRR is booming in this afternoon with -16 SNRs, maybe a few
> others can hear his signal before the sun sets....
>
>        2015-10-23 21:42   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05
>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312
>        2015-10-23 21:36   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05
>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312
>        2015-10-23 21:32   WH2XRR   0.137537   -17   0   FM18re   0.05
>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312
>        2015-10-23 21:26   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05
>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312
>        2015-10-23 21:20   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05
>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400  312
>
>
> 73 Mike wa3tts
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Fri Oct 23 18:37:30 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 18:37:30 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] XRR -16 on 2200m
In-Reply-To: <CAE89MiQLsmx6DbpZnRedLEE9=gUsm2dYJ505PU9N_hGE0d0waQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9560BB8B8F96471C83BC48C4621AE2FE@MichaelSappPC>
	<CAE89MiQLsmx6DbpZnRedLEE9=gUsm2dYJ505PU9N_hGE0d0waQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A3B5B0894BA34068B43602D2714607EE@MichaelSappPC>

Cool Llyod. Whatever Bill "fixed," he made a significant improvement....

73, Mike wa3tts

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lloyd Chastant" <lloydc6 at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XRR -16 on 2200m


> yes nice copy her also
> Lloyd W3NF
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi All: WH2XRR is booming in this afternoon with -16 SNRs, maybe a few
>> others can hear his signal before the sun sets....
>>
>>        2015-10-23 21:42   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05
>>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312
>>        2015-10-23 21:36   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05
>>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312
>>        2015-10-23 21:32   WH2XRR   0.137537   -17   0   FM18re   0.05
>>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312
>>        2015-10-23 21:26   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05
>>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312
>>        2015-10-23 21:20   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05
>>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400  312
>>
>>
>> 73 Mike wa3tts
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From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 18:48:04 2015
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (Lloyd Chastant)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 22:48:04 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] XRR -16 on 2200m
In-Reply-To: <A3B5B0894BA34068B43602D2714607EE@MichaelSappPC>
References: <9560BB8B8F96471C83BC48C4621AE2FE@MichaelSappPC>
	<CAE89MiQLsmx6DbpZnRedLEE9=gUsm2dYJ505PU9N_hGE0d0waQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<A3B5B0894BA34068B43602D2714607EE@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <CAE89MiRygHnC4567P=EjcGKjKjO+p5d7hgs0=5HwqoL0iSgkEg@mail.gmail.com>

yes still coming through nice..I put the kxv3B mod in my K3 which
supposedly gets it down to 100KHz but was not seeing him on the K3..But
nice with the TS-870 and miniwhip hr
Lloyd W3NF

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:

> Cool Llyod. Whatever Bill "fixed," he made a significant improvement....
>
> 73, Mike wa3tts
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lloyd Chastant" <lloydc6 at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <
> lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 6:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XRR -16 on 2200m
>
>
>
> yes nice copy her also
>> Lloyd W3NF
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All: WH2XRR is booming in this afternoon with -16 SNRs, maybe a few
>>> others can hear his signal before the sun sets....
>>>
>>>        2015-10-23 21:42   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05
>>>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312
>>>        2015-10-23 21:36   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05
>>>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312
>>>        2015-10-23 21:32   WH2XRR   0.137537   -17   0   FM18re   0.05
>>>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312
>>>        2015-10-23 21:26   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05
>>>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312
>>>        2015-10-23 21:20   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05
>>>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400  312
>>>
>>>
>>> 73 Mike wa3tts
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Fri Oct 23 18:58:53 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 18:58:53 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] XRR -16 on 2200m
In-Reply-To: <CAE89MiRygHnC4567P=EjcGKjKjO+p5d7hgs0=5HwqoL0iSgkEg@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAE89MiQLsmx6DbpZnRedLEE9=gUsm2dYJ505PU9N_hGE0d0waQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Lloyd: Interesting the kxv3B is not hearing XRR. Can you see MP with it in 
QRSS long modes ?

Mike


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lloyd Chastant" <lloydc6 at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XRR -16 on 2200m


> yes still coming through nice..I put the kxv3B mod in my K3 which
> supposedly gets it down to 100KHz but was not seeing him on the K3..But
> nice with the TS-870 and miniwhip hr
> Lloyd W3NF
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Cool Llyod. Whatever Bill "fixed," he made a significant improvement....
>>
>> 73, Mike wa3tts
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lloyd Chastant" <lloydc6 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <
>> lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 6:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XRR -16 on 2200m
>>
>>
>>
>> yes nice copy her also
>>> Lloyd W3NF
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All: WH2XRR is booming in this afternoon with -16 SNRs, maybe a few
>>>> others can hear his signal before the sun sets....
>>>>
>>>>        2015-10-23 21:42   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05
>>>>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312
>>>>        2015-10-23 21:36   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05
>>>>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312
>>>>        2015-10-23 21:32   WH2XRR   0.137537   -17   0   FM18re   0.05
>>>>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312
>>>>        2015-10-23 21:26   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05
>>>>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312
>>>>        2015-10-23 21:20   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05
>>>>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400  312
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 73 Mike wa3tts
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From lloydc6 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 19:20:10 2015
From: lloydc6 at gmail.com (Lloyd Chastant)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 23:20:10 +0000
Subject: [Lowfer] XRR -16 on 2200m
In-Reply-To: <CE5DFF799EB14C79AE9B140209548947@MichaelSappPC>
References: <9560BB8B8F96471C83BC48C4621AE2FE@MichaelSappPC>
	<CAE89MiQLsmx6DbpZnRedLEE9=gUsm2dYJ505PU9N_hGE0d0waQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<A3B5B0894BA34068B43602D2714607EE@MichaelSappPC>
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Message-ID: <CAE89MiS9VE+HUVvb05--fVmCktn4PCLkK4AG=p7zv2101JFSfA@mail.gmail.com>

I haven't tried MP but will do..may go try that not ..so here some later
copy on XRR still nice
Let you know on Mp sucess
Lloyd

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 10:58 PM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:

> Lloyd: Interesting the kxv3B is not hearing XRR. Can you see MP with it in
> QRSS long modes ?
>
> Mike
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lloyd Chastant" <lloydc6 at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <
> lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 6:48 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XRR -16 on 2200m
>
>
> yes still coming through nice..I put the kxv3B mod in my K3 which
>> supposedly gets it down to 100KHz but was not seeing him on the K3..But
>> nice with the TS-870 and miniwhip hr
>> Lloyd W3NF
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Cool Llyod. Whatever Bill "fixed," he made a significant improvement....
>>>
>>> 73, Mike wa3tts
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lloyd Chastant" <lloydc6 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" <
>>> lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 6:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] XRR -16 on 2200m
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> yes nice copy her also
>>>
>>>> Lloyd W3NF
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All: WH2XRR is booming in this afternoon with -16 SNRs, maybe a few
>>>>
>>>>> others can hear his signal before the sun sets....
>>>>>
>>>>>        2015-10-23 21:42   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05
>>>>>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312
>>>>>        2015-10-23 21:36   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05
>>>>>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312
>>>>>        2015-10-23 21:32   WH2XRR   0.137537   -17   0   FM18re   0.05
>>>>>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312
>>>>>        2015-10-23 21:26   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05
>>>>>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400   312
>>>>>        2015-10-23 21:20   WH2XRR   0.137537   -16   0   FM18re   0.05
>>>>>  WA3TTS   EN90xn   400  312
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 Mike wa3tts
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From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Fri Oct 23 20:48:37 2015
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 20:48:37 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ reminder
Message-ID: <008901d10df5$b8220180$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Tomorrow morning ... 17.2 kHz ... ~ 0930Z tuneup ... 1000Z message.

As I check out the receiving setup alpha beeps are nicely audible.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2



From hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 23 22:59:06 2015
From: hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com (Laurence KL7 L)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 18:59:06 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ reminder
In-Reply-To: <008901d10df5$b8220180$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <008901d10df5$b8220180$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <BLU185-W76C513F1FD31C208EBC2F3CF250@phx.gbl>

thanks for the reminder Jay - got Audacity set up but the QRN is already pretty high at 0300z

Laurence KL7 L

> From: jrusgrove at comcast.net
> To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 20:48:37 -0400
> Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ reminder
> 
> Tomorrow morning ... 17.2 kHz ... ~ 0930Z tuneup ... 1000Z message.
> 
> As I check out the receiving setup alpha beeps are nicely audible.
> 
> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
> 
> 
 		 	   		  

From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Oct 24 08:26:34 2015
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 08:26:34 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ 17.2 kHz in CT
Message-ID: <003201d10e57$38ed3b70$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Weak reception this morning - likely due to high QRN levels. A short .mp3 from the 'tune up' and 
beginning of the message at:

http://www.w1vd.com/SAQ102415A.mp3 .

Equipment lineup as usual:

Modified Amrad e probe > LNA > Delta 44 > Spectrum Laboratory

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

 


From clive at ancient-mariner.co.uk  Sat Oct 24 09:08:04 2015
From: clive at ancient-mariner.co.uk (Clive S Carver)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 14:08:04 +0100
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ 17.2 kHz in CT
In-Reply-To: <003201d10e57$38ed3b70$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
References: <003201d10e57$38ed3b70$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>
Message-ID: <FF8D0DB60F1A4CB7B511129DD1EE01AF@Study>

Here is an audio recording of the SAQ transmission from my QTH in Hawarden,
North Wales, UK. Somewhat closer to SAQ than you are!

www.ancient-mariner.co.uk/public/2015.10.24-SAQ_UNITED_NATIONS_DAY_TRANSMISS
ION.wav

PA0RDT Mini-Whip > RF Space SDR-IQ > Silex SX-2000U2 USB to Network > Win7
64 bit Pro > SpectraVue 3.37

73's

Clive GW4EYO


-----Original Message-----
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jrusgrove at comcast.net
Sent: 24 October 2015 13:27
To: lowfer at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ 17.2 kHz in CT

Weak reception this morning - likely due to high QRN levels. A short .mp3
from the 'tune up' and 
beginning of the message at:

http://www.w1vd.com/SAQ102415A.mp3 .

Equipment lineup as usual:

Modified Amrad e probe > LNA > Delta 44 > Spectrum Laboratory

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2

 

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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 24 11:28:12 2015
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 08:28:12 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] Sort of OT - Is this a mangled antenna
Message-ID: <1445700492.2912.YahooMailBasic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

https://www.dropbox.com/s/p07163sc3nt716w/Antenna%20or%20Powerlines.bmp?dl=0

What is it ?? I scrolled across this on facebook today.. Is it a mangled antenna, or 
mangled powerlines ?? The picture had overlaid text that had nothing to do with antenna's..
It just has my curiousity up as to what it is..  Any comments ??

73 : 

Andy - KU4XR

From k8rz at etcmail.com  Sat Oct 24 12:57:16 2015
From: k8rz at etcmail.com (Jim Davey)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 12:57:16 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Sort of OT - Is this a mangled antenna
In-Reply-To: <1445700492.2912.YahooMailBasic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D2512F93.6E390%k8rz@etcmail.com>

Andy:

It looks just like the overhead power over train tracks.  They have those
periodic vertical wires from a support wire to a lower solid conductor
that the mechanism on the train contacts.  Philadelphia?s SEPTA system has
that kind of overhead wiring all over the place since they have an
extensive regional rail system.
 
Jim  K8RZ






On 10/24/15, 11:28 AM, "Andy - KU4XR via Lowfer" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
wrote:

>https://www.dropbox.com/s/p07163sc3nt716w/Antenna%20or%20Powerlines.bmp?dl
>=0
>
>What is it ?? I scrolled across this on facebook today.. Is it a mangled
>antenna, or 
>mangled powerlines ?? The picture had overlaid text that had nothing to
>do with antenna's..
>It just has my curiousity up as to what it is..  Any comments ??
>
>73 : 
>
>Andy - KU4XR
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From clive at ancient-mariner.co.uk  Sat Oct 24 12:58:45 2015
From: clive at ancient-mariner.co.uk (Clive S Carver)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 17:58:45 +0100
Subject: [Lowfer] Sort of OT - Is this a mangled antenna
In-Reply-To: <1445700492.2912.YahooMailBasic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1445700492.2912.YahooMailBasic@web125305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <375AD8383BD64FA2B1FE13E9EA7D28D6@Study>

My two guesses, 1) Overhead power cables for railway traction supply. In UK
they use 25 kV and to keep the pick-up wire the same height above the track,
they use a catenary wire with droppers to the pick-up wire. I have seen the
tension insulators in use here in UK.

That said, 2) There is something that does not fit with railways... In
particular the bottom 25% of the picture. Those T shaped masts and the
lattice mast on the left.  If antenna related, I would guess at shortwave
broadcast. 

So my best guess would be a broadcast facility near to a railway line!

A couple of examples:-

http://www.bbceng.info/Operations/transmitter_ops/Reminiscences/Woofferton/w
oof50y-v2.pdf

http://www.railway-technical.com/HSSI-at-LW-ER.jpg

73's

Clive
GW4EYO







-----Original Message-----
From: Lowfer [mailto:lowfer-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Andy -
KU4XR via Lowfer
Sent: 24 October 2015 16:28
To: 1750 Meter lowfer list; 600 meter group
Cc: Andy - KU4XR
Subject: [Lowfer] Sort of OT - Is this a mangled antenna

https://www.dropbox.com/s/p07163sc3nt716w/Antenna%20or%20Powerlines.bmp?dl=0

What is it ?? I scrolled across this on facebook today.. Is it a mangled
antenna, or 
mangled powerlines ?? The picture had overlaid text that had nothing to do
with antenna's..
It just has my curiousity up as to what it is..  Any comments ??

73 : 

Andy - KU4XR
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From hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 24 13:51:21 2015
From: hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com (Laurence KL7 L)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 09:51:21 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] SAQ
Message-ID: <BLU185-W12B604132314C00A647EF8CF250@phx.gbl>

http://kl7l.com/saq10241510z.jpg

Good morning chaps

I
 was expecting it to be poor but not bad signals  really - audible 
levels with occasional QRN breaks, About 10dB weaker than JXN and about 
the roughly the same strength as RDL here in Alaska.

 Luckily for me I had a break at the top of the hour of my WSPRLF/MF transmissions!

Rx
 is W1VD version of AMRAD probe at 30ft, isolation, then  Realtek sound 
card/Speclabs. SAQ finished at 10:08:50secs ish. I didnt get the tune up as that 
was in the middle of my tx period.

Laurence KL7 L Palmer Alaska BP51IP 		 	   		  

From jgibbs at telus.net  Sat Oct 24 17:35:57 2015
From: jgibbs at telus.net (John Gibbs)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 14:35:57 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] 137/475 activity
In-Reply-To: <2E6E1686-DB33-4BDC-B2FC-2563D2A9B967@conocophillips.com>
References: <CAEJzK2CEQB-AZLWmuMuw+jTG=eAabMzbQtQQ=SUEOKYt5unAoA@mail.gmail.com>
	<2E6E1686-DB33-4BDC-B2FC-2563D2A9B967@conocophillips.com>
Message-ID: <562BF9BD.6080003@telus.net>

Laurence..  got you 9 times with wsprx on MF


 2015-10-24 11:15      WE2XPQ      0.475808      -30      -4      BP51ip 
     10      VE7BDQ      CN89la      2148      119
 2015-10-24 10:45      WE2XPQ      0.475808      -29      -1      BP51ip 
     10      VE7BDQ      CN89la      2148      119
 2015-10-24 10:30      WE2XPQ      0.475809      -35      -1      BP51ip 
     10      VE7BDQ      CN89la      2148      119
 2015-10-24 09:30      WE2XPQ      0.475809      -27      -1      BP51ip 
     10      VE7BDQ      CN89la      2148      119
 2015-10-24 09:15      WE2XPQ      0.475809      -23      -3      BP51ip 
     10      VE7BDQ      CN89la      2148      119
 2015-10-24 08:45      WE2XPQ      0.475809      -35      -1      BP51ip 
     10      VE7BDQ      CN89la      2148      119
 2015-10-24 07:15      WE2XPQ      0.475809      -29      -1      BP51ip 
     10      VE7BDQ      CN89la      2148      119
 2015-10-24 06:45      WE2XPQ      0.475809      -27      -1      BP51ip 
     10      VE7BDQ      CN89la      2148      119
 2015-10-24 06:15      WE2XPQ      0.475809      -32      -2      BP51ip 
     10      VE7BDQ      CN89la      2148      119


Got you once on 137 but not uploaded.

73 
John/VE7BDQ



From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 24 23:50:21 2015
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 20:50:21 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] [600MRG] Sort of OT - Is this a mangled antenna
In-Reply-To: <CADO5Rbh9EZGno3asT3UWe5RXes1fdE=JeQBfs+moM4-Sn1Ub1Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1445745021.25268.YahooMailBasic@web125301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

OK Then.. The general consensus is powerline for trolley railway system.. That sounds 
plausible to me, since I really had no idea to begin with.. I thought it looked really strange
to be some sort of antenna system...

The text on the facebook picture was religious in nature..

Thanks for the comments from around the globe... 73 to all :

Andy - KU4XR
--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 10/24/15, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea at arrl.net> wrote:
 
 I agree with Mike.? What
 did the text say?
 
 73
 DR
 N1EA
 
 On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at
 4:33 PM, Michael Mussler <mmussler at wispertel.net>
 wrote:
 They look
 like the power lines for trollies or electric railway
 locomotives.
 
 73
 
 Mike, AI8Z
 
 
 

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 25 10:43:50 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry Hess)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 09:43:50 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer MLS
Message-ID: <562CEAA6.9020508@sbcglobal.net>

Mike, I reported MLS being around 186.201 kHz on Oct 19 at 
http://lwca.org/mb/. Didn't see that it was back on until after sunset 
so wasn't sure. It comes in best during daylight. I've been out of town 
since then but am back home now so looked again. I do find it around 
that frequency so your dropbox frequency scale is probably off a bit. 
Nice to have another signal to copy.
-- 
73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sun Oct 25 10:53:07 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 10:53:07 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer MLS
In-Reply-To: <562CEAA6.9020508@sbcglobal.net>
References: <562CEAA6.9020508@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <13F7DE155DA847DCA6CC41C6AE2C9334@MichaelSappPC>

Garry: I recall MLS wandering around a few Hz with temperature last season. 
I will do a cal next time tho. Don't think I would be more than .2~.3 Hz off 
with OCXO in converter and TCXO in the FT-817.  If I forgot to switch 
sampling rates from 48K (for WSPR2) to 44.1K (for ARGO) that would have 
tossed the freq cal out the window....

Thanks for the heads-up...

73 Mike wa3tts



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garry Hess" <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>
To: "lowfer list" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Lowfer MLS


> Mike, I reported MLS being around 186.201 kHz on Oct 19 at
> http://lwca.org/mb/. Didn't see that it was back on until after sunset
> so wasn't sure. It comes in best during daylight. I've been out of town
> since then but am back home now so looked again. I do find it around
> that frequency so your dropbox frequency scale is probably off a bit.
> Nice to have another signal to copy.
> -- 
> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
>


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From n8tl at woh.rr.com  Sun Oct 25 19:23:03 2015
From: n8tl at woh.rr.com (n8tl)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 22:23:03 -0100
Subject: [Lowfer] QRSS MLS
Message-ID: <562D6457.7020309@woh.rr.com>

Reading MLS at 186.201 KHZ.  Good signal.

Tom N8TL

From n8tl at woh.rr.com  Sun Oct 25 19:41:51 2015
From: n8tl at woh.rr.com (n8tl)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 22:41:51 -0100
Subject: [Lowfer] SIW
Message-ID: <562D68BF.4070300@woh.rr.com>

SIW (slant mode) also coming in well on 185.185 Khz.

Tom N8TL

From listread at lwca.org  Mon Oct 26 00:56:22 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 23:56:22 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SIW
References: <562D68BF.4070300@woh.rr.com>
Message-ID: <80A713677A8D4FDD95B74913BF53A1F6@HPNOTEBOOK>

Checked LF briefly in late afternoon, with the attached result. Also had 
excellent copy of DCF77 an hour before local sunset. Good QRN-free 
afternoon!

All this followed an afternoon of receiver frequency calibration and a bit 
of HiFER monitoring that resulted in copy of NC, USC, EH, MP, the HF SIW 
duo, HiFER WM, WV, PBJ, and GNK. Those results can be seen at:

http://lwca.org/mb/msg/5493.htm

John 


From listread at lwca.org  Mon Oct 26 00:58:17 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 23:58:17 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] SIW (2)
References: <562D68BF.4070300@woh.rr.com>
	<80A713677A8D4FDD95B74913BF53A1F6@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <A33E001048A64F37A6A99A8418804828@HPNOTEBOOK>

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From ku4xr at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 26 11:35:57 2015
From: ku4xr at yahoo.com (Andy - KU4XR)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 08:35:57 -0700
Subject: [Lowfer] MP on WSPR
Message-ID: <1445873757.87150.YahooMailBasic@web125302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Well, not exactly.. Greetings all; It's been very dry here lately, and the light rain is a welcome
noise reliever.. 136 KHz was unusually quiet last night, and this morning.. I had a very good
showing from XND, and XRR on WSPR2 overnight.. You can view the database if you are
interested in that..I turned the monitor on this morning and saw a vertical trace at 1780 Hz
and it took me a minute to notice that it is MP at 10 am EST.. I don't usually look at the
waterfall that high, but since it was so quiet; Mitch's signal showed up in the WSPR
waterfall... I didn't expect that for sure.. I loaded the waterfal jpg to my dropbox..

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fgusscvxaul74pl/mp%20on%20wspr.bmp?dl=0

73:

Andy - XR

From w1tag at charter.net  Mon Oct 26 14:35:48 2015
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 14:35:48 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] [Hifer] RY on air
Message-ID: <5F398717-0A4A-40F1-A3EC-48031F8C95FD@charter.net>

Hifer beacon RY from Raymond, ME is on the air for the winter/spring on 13555.415 kHz with QRSS3. This puts it between the two SIW signals. Antenna is a vertical dipole. 

Reports are welcome. 

John, W1TAG



From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 27 09:14:28 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 08:14:28 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 518 kHz Navtex
Message-ID: <562F78B4.3020607@sbcglobal.net>

Good signals last night from Navtex stations, although for awhile one of 
them didn't turn off when finished sending messages and that no doubt 
caused some other stations to be stepped on. Messages were decoded from 
area 4 stations, A,B,C,F,G,H,I,N,P,Q,R, and U and area 12 stations C,H, 
and W. Nice to see Greenland (I) coming in again. Station M in Greenland 
was also noticed but it was too weak to decode anything. Powerhouse 
station E in area 4 apparently is down and that made decoding station F 
easy. It's well after local sunrise and area 4 station G in New Orleans 
is still coming in.

73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From w1tag at charter.net  Tue Oct 27 10:55:28 2015
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 10:55:28 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer TAG On Air
Message-ID: <BA492AEA-B567-4A14-A533-021C2CDB486A@charter.net>

Lowfer beacon TAG is back on the air until May from Raymond, Maine (FN43sv) on 185.297 kHz in QRSS60 mode. Previous operation has been done with QRSS30, but the slower speed may help. 

Reports are welcome. 

John, W1TAG



From jhjesse at verizon.net  Tue Oct 27 14:38:04 2015
From: jhjesse at verizon.net (Jonathan Jesse)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:38:04 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer TAG On Air
In-Reply-To: <BA492AEA-B567-4A14-A533-021C2CDB486A@charter.net>
References: <BA492AEA-B567-4A14-A533-021C2CDB486A@charter.net>
Message-ID: <562FC48C.9090208@verizon.net>

On 10/27/2015 10:55 AM, John Andrews wrote:
> Lowfer beacon TAG is back on the air until May from Raymond, Maine (FN43sv) on 185.297 kHz in QRSS60 mode. Previous operation has been done with QRSS30, but the slower speed may help.
>
> Reports are welcome.
>
> John, W1TAG
>
It's nice to see TAG back on.  Thank you, John.
This was grabbed at 2:30 PM in FN31qw.  Freq error is all mine.

Anan Angelia SDR Reciever and 130' N-S loop fed with a 9:1 balun.

Jon
WS1K



From jhjesse at verizon.net  Tue Oct 27 14:40:48 2015
From: jhjesse at verizon.net (Jonathan Jesse)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:40:48 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer TAG On Air
In-Reply-To: <BA492AEA-B567-4A14-A533-021C2CDB486A@charter.net>
References: <BA492AEA-B567-4A14-A533-021C2CDB486A@charter.net>
Message-ID: <562FC530.1020907@verizon.net>

On 10/27/2015 10:55 AM, John Andrews wrote:
> Lowfer beacon TAG is back on the air until May from Raymond, Maine (FN43sv) on 185.297 kHz in QRSS60 mode. Previous operation has been done with QRSS30, but the slower speed may help.
>
> Reports are welcome.
>
> John, W1TAG
>
It's nice to see TAG back on.  Thank you, John.
This was grabbed at 2:30 PM in FN31qw.  Freq error is all mine.

Anan Angelia SDR Reciever and 130' N-S loop fed with a 9:1 balun.

Jon
WS1K




From jhjesse at verizon.net  Tue Oct 27 14:54:29 2015
From: jhjesse at verizon.net (Jonathan Jesse)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:54:29 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer TAG On Air
In-Reply-To: <BA492AEA-B567-4A14-A533-021C2CDB486A@charter.net>
References: <BA492AEA-B567-4A14-A533-021C2CDB486A@charter.net>
Message-ID: <562FC865.8000000@verizon.net>

On 10/27/2015 10:55 AM, John Andrews wrote:
> Lowfer beacon TAG is back on the air until May from Raymond, Maine (FN43sv) on 185.297 kHz in QRSS60 mode. Previous operation has been done with QRSS30, but the slower speed may help.
>
> Reports are welcome.
>
> John, W1TAG
Sorry, even though the pic is very small it isn't showing for some reason.

It's nice to see TAG back on.  Thank you, John.
This was grabbed at 2:30 PM in FN31qw.  Freq error is all mine.

Anan Angelia SDR Reciever and 130' N-S loop fed with a 9:1 balun.

Jon
WS1K

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From w1tag at charter.net  Tue Oct 27 15:25:25 2015
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 15:25:25 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfer TAG On Air
In-Reply-To: <562FC865.8000000@verizon.net>
References: <BA492AEA-B567-4A14-A533-021C2CDB486A@charter.net>
	<562FC865.8000000@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <2BDA5C5D-4637-4AD6-A774-4D78E7FAC8AC@charter.net>

Jon,

There it is! Although it tuned up just like every other year, it's nice to see it getting out. 

Thanks. 

John, W1TAG



> On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Jonathan Jesse <jhjesse at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 10/27/2015 10:55 AM, John Andrews wrote:
>> Lowfer beacon TAG is back on the air until May from Raymond, Maine (FN43sv) on 185.297 kHz in QRSS60 mode. Previous operation has been done with QRSS30, but the slower speed may help.
>> 
>> Reports are welcome.
>> 
>> John, W1TAG
> Sorry, even though the pic is very small it isn't showing for some reason.
> 
> It's nice to see TAG back on.  Thank you, John.
> This was grabbed at 2:30 PM in FN31qw.  Freq error is all mine.
> 
> Anan Angelia SDR Reciever and 130' N-S loop fed with a 9:1 balun.
> 
> Jon
> WS1K
> 
> <tag.JPG>
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Tue Oct 27 22:39:25 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 22:39:25 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG in EN90xn
In-Reply-To: <5F398717-0A4A-40F1-A3EC-48031F8C95FD@charter.net>
References: <5F398717-0A4A-40F1-A3EC-48031F8C95FD@charter.net>
Message-ID: <F60BA19672854C68A2E2851D1F09AD35@MichaelSappPC>

John & All:  I monitored the watering hole all afternoon to no avail. TAG 
started coming through after sunset. Typical early evening fading. Usually 
0300 to 0500 is more stable first iono bounce path from W1 land. Appalachian 
ground wave seems to be a bit of a challenge versus the flat land to SIW...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/40iebwhqr0vmy09/capt00031.jpg?dl=0

I made sure I did a cal this time.... stable temp in the shack so very 
little drift over several hours run time...

73, Mike wa3tts



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag at charter.net>
To: "LowFER (US European" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 2:35 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] [Hifer] RY on air


> Hifer beacon RY from Raymond, ME is on the air for the winter/spring on 
> 13555.415 kHz with QRSS3. This puts it between the two SIW signals. 
> Antenna is a vertical dipole.
>
> Reports are welcome.
>
> John, W1TAG
>
>
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From w1tag at charter.net  Tue Oct 27 22:51:29 2015
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 22:51:29 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG in EN90xn
In-Reply-To: <F60BA19672854C68A2E2851D1F09AD35@MichaelSappPC>
References: <5F398717-0A4A-40F1-A3EC-48031F8C95FD@charter.net>
	<F60BA19672854C68A2E2851D1F09AD35@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <4AF27053-142C-4A7D-8D8E-1244F158A5DC@charter.net>

Mike,

Thanks! Looks pretty good. Always thought the Argo screens looked cleaner in the Slow mode, but what the heck. 

Guess it's still working. Had a nice report from Bill deCarle as well. 

John, W1TAG



> On Oct 27, 2015, at 10:39 PM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> John & All:  I monitored the watering hole all afternoon to no avail. TAG started coming through after sunset. Typical early evening fading. Usually 0300 to 0500 is more stable first iono bounce path from W1 land. Appalachian ground wave seems to be a bit of a challenge versus the flat land to SIW...
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/40iebwhqr0vmy09/capt00031.jpg?dl=0
> 
> I made sure I did a cal this time.... stable temp in the shack so very little drift over several hours run time...
> 
> 73, Mike wa3tts
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" <w1tag at charter.net>
> To: "LowFER (US European" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 2:35 PM
> Subject: [Lowfer] [Hifer] RY on air
> 
> 
>> Hifer beacon RY from Raymond, ME is on the air for the winter/spring on 13555.415 kHz with QRSS3. This puts it between the two SIW signals. Antenna is a vertical dipole.
>> 
>> Reports are welcome.
>> 
>> John, W1TAG
>> 
>> 
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Tue Oct 27 22:58:07 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 22:58:07 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG in EN90xn
In-Reply-To: <4AF27053-142C-4A7D-8D8E-1244F158A5DC@charter.net>
References: <5F398717-0A4A-40F1-A3EC-48031F8C95FD@charter.net>
	<F60BA19672854C68A2E2851D1F09AD35@MichaelSappPC>
	<4AF27053-142C-4A7D-8D8E-1244F158A5DC@charter.net>
Message-ID: <3090D2380D444BB5B48A3A3E8B96CE93@MichaelSappPC>

John: You are welcome. The capture might have been a bit better if I had not 
split the IF output to also run WSPR2 on 630m, but I figured I had enough 
signal margin, especally with the low A & K numbers.  I will try more 
daylight captures over the fall-winter season just to see if +500 miles over 
the Appalacians is possible for the primarily groundwave propagation 
mode....

73,  Mike wa3tts


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Andrews" <w1tag at charter.net>
To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands" 
<lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] TAG in EN90xn


> Mike,
>
> Thanks! Looks pretty good. Always thought the Argo screens looked cleaner 
> in the Slow mode, but what the heck.
>
> Guess it's still working. Had a nice report from Bill deCarle as well.
>
> John, W1TAG
>
>
>
>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 10:39 PM, Michael Sapp <wa3tts at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> John & All:  I monitored the watering hole all afternoon to no avail. TAG 
>> started coming through after sunset. Typical early evening fading. 
>> Usually 0300 to 0500 is more stable first iono bounce path from W1 land. 
>> Appalachian ground wave seems to be a bit of a challenge versus the flat 
>> land to SIW...
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/40iebwhqr0vmy09/capt00031.jpg?dl=0
>>
>> I made sure I did a cal this time.... stable temp in the shack so very 
>> little drift over several hours run time...
>>
>> 73, Mike wa3tts
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" <w1tag at charter.net>
>> To: "LowFER (US European" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 2:35 PM
>> Subject: [Lowfer] [Hifer] RY on air
>>
>>
>>> Hifer beacon RY from Raymond, ME is on the air for the winter/spring on 
>>> 13555.415 kHz with QRSS3. This puts it between the two SIW signals. 
>>> Antenna is a vertical dipole.
>>>
>>> Reports are welcome.
>>>
>>> John, W1TAG
>>>
>>>
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 28 08:36:08 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 07:36:08 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG
Message-ID: <5630C138.4030105@sbcglobal.net>

John, it was a very rainy night here so pleased to see traces of TAG 
throughout using ARGO at QRSS30. Switched to QRSS60 before local sunrise 
and caught a bump where the full call came through marginally. Not bad 
considering the weather.

73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 28 09:38:03 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 08:38:03 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfers
Message-ID: <5630CFBB.3080100@sbcglobal.net>

Saw TAG weakly at the watering hole before sunrise then after local 
sunrise tuned for EAR and MLS. EAR was and is coming in fine but not 
even a trace of MLS has been noted. A few days ago it was fine so 
perhaps there's now a problem or the frequency has shifted out of my 
ARGO display range.Down on 137.78 kHz higher powered MP of course is 
coming in well.

73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL


From w1tag at charter.net  Wed Oct 28 09:46:03 2015
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:46:03 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG
In-Reply-To: <5630C138.4030105@sbcglobal.net>
References: <5630C138.4030105@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <5630D19B.8060009@charter.net>

Garry,

Weak, but there! Thanks for the report.

John, W1TAG

On 10/28/2015 8:36 AM, Garry and Linda Hess wrote:
> John, it was a very rainy night here so pleased to see traces of TAG
> throughout using ARGO at QRSS30. Switched to QRSS60 before local sunrise
> and caught a bump where the full call came through marginally. Not bad
> considering the weather.
>
> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
>
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From weazle at hurontel.on.ca  Wed Oct 28 09:45:44 2015
From: weazle at hurontel.on.ca (John Bruce McCreath)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:45:44 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] Lowfers
In-Reply-To: <5630CFBB.3080100@sbcglobal.net>
References: <5630CFBB.3080100@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1F00FA8B-2BD4-4AF5-8812-26A9D6F941F9@hurontel.on.ca>

Thanks for the report on EAR reception, Garry.  It's getting its power today from my
wind turbine, thanks to gale-force winds from the storm system we're in!

73, J.B., VE3EAR

LowFER Beacon "EAR"
188.830 kHz. QRSS30
EN93dr






From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 28 22:54:22 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 21:54:22 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] VLF
Message-ID: <56318A5E.8050604@sbcglobal.net>

VLF propagation is picking up nicely as winter approaches. Seeing a 
dozen stations tonight below 30 kHz. Many are just barely detectable, 
for example JXN on 16.4 kHz, but it nice to see something on the 
waterfall other than background noise. Higher up on 77.5 kHz DCF77 the 
German time standard was potent.

73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL

From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct 29 15:33:04 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 14:33:04 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MLS
Message-ID: <56327470.50201@sbcglobal.net>

Just noticed MLS come back on the air. Frequency is drifting down and 
looks like it will stabilize a bit above 186.201 kHz.

73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct 29 16:20:46 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:20:46 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] MLS continued
Message-ID: <56327F9E.9070509@sbcglobal.net>

The frequency is leveling out nicely.

73, Garry
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From dexter.mc at gmail.com  Thu Oct 29 20:57:13 2015
From: dexter.mc at gmail.com (Dexter McIntyre W4DEX)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 20:57:13 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] TAG in NC
Message-ID: <5632C069.5050308@gmail.com>

Just a few hints of TAG the past two nights.  A bit better this evening:

Dex
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Fri Oct 30 21:49:29 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 21:49:29 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] VO1NA in EN90xn
Message-ID: <F7C6E90BDB45423B830662F43D4E30BE@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All: Joe's 137.777 kHz signal coming in nicely this evening with only minor fading, which is better than normal propagation conditions for this location....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hzkannvuzk1hwds/capt00037.jpg?dl=0

Someone else tuning up just under MP, I have another capture at a lower sensitivity level in progress to find out who it is....

Also testing one of those $20 Pacific Rim TCXO's for the FT-817 sourced from e-bay. I started with MP at 137780.45 and it wandered down to .41 and now back at .43. The Isotemp OCXO in my LF converter also wanders slightly. I wrapped the new TCXO module in thin (1/16" or less) packing foam to help with the thermal management. I also noticed there is another small crystal around the back corner of the TXCO mount location on the FT-817 board ( near the SO-239 connector and metal shielded box on the main PCB) , so I made a small foam bootie for it as well. My furnace cycled on a few times in the three hours or so since powering on the FT-817 with the new master oscillator and I really did not notice a thermal shift at QRSS30 slow. Likely I will have to go to QRSS60 slow to have any thermal drift more noticeable.  Great upgrade for the FT-817 for little money.  Still waiting on my proportional xtal heaters I ordered last week from Khune in Germany to upgrade my FT-847 radios....

73, Mike wa3tts

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Fri Oct 30 22:12:13 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 22:12:13 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] More VO1NA in EN90xn
Message-ID: <3D7C7C4C864746F7AC6F8827DA75C60A@MichaelSappPC>

Hi All: Still copying NA with reduced visual gain and I see Joe is using his RD antenna.  Not sure who was on/near 779....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ej2fkq6v7edspwa/capt00041.jpg?dl=0

73 Mike wa3tts

From wa3tts at verizon.net  Fri Oct 30 22:14:15 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 22:14:15 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] More VO1NA in EN90xn
In-Reply-To: <3D7C7C4C864746F7AC6F8827DA75C60A@MichaelSappPC>
References: <3D7C7C4C864746F7AC6F8827DA75C60A@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <753BA59CE9D24E85BECD25042A81F7C1@MichaelSappPC>

Correction. Not sure who is near 780....


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Sapp" <wa3tts at verizon.net>
To: <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 10:12 PM
Subject: [Lowfer] More VO1NA in EN90xn


> Hi All: Still copying NA with reduced visual gain and I see Joe is using 
> his RD antenna.  Not sure who was on/near 779....
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ej2fkq6v7edspwa/capt00041.jpg?dl=0
>
> 73 Mike wa3tts
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From k3siw at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct 31 09:00:56 2015
From: k3siw at sbcglobal.net (Garry and Linda Hess)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 08:00:56 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] More VO1NA in EN90xn
Message-ID: <5634BB88.5050002@sbcglobal.net>

Mike, thanks for the heads up on VO1NA activity on 137.777 kHz. Not much 
signal seen here, just occasional bits through the night, but around 
0830Z it picked up enough to decode "O1NA". MP of course was potent all 
the time. Didn't notice anything around 137.779 kHz, but after VO1NA 
faded away on 137.777 kHz with local sunrise nearing (1130Z) I did 
notice something around 137.7779 kHz. Perhaps he shifted frequency or 
but more likely that was an overload spur from MP. Shortly afterward MP 
definitely begin to show +/- sidebands of 0.7 and 1.4 Hz, probably 
internal to my SDR-IQ.

73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
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From wa3tts at verizon.net  Sat Oct 31 11:46:24 2015
From: wa3tts at verizon.net (Michael Sapp)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:46:24 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] 137kHz overnight
In-Reply-To: <5634BB88.5050002@sbcglobal.net>
References: <5634BB88.5050002@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <B148DA9F38654481B3325ED4D9C0E2D1@MichaelSappPC>

Garry & All:  I ran my LF/MF converter output split overnight for 630m wspr2 
and QRSS60slow from about 137775.5 to 137780.5 ish looking for XPQ, who 
announced on ON4KST chat he was running DFCW45 on 137776.  My EWE was 
pointed NW.   No sign of Lawrence's 776 signal, but VO1NA came through off 
the side reasonably well.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7yv3dh5rw1hk0f7/capt00042.jpg?dl=0


Nice "Halloween ghosts" effect on MP with the visual gain set high...

The $20 ebay TCXO for my  FT817 (second FT-817, I have 2 of them) performed 
well and it seems like adding the foam around the TCXO and making the foam 
bootie for the nearby xtal on the main PCB of the FT-817 solved my furnace 
cycle thermal frequency drift issue. These ebay TCXO boards mount in an 
"inverted" manner compared to the stock Yeasu TCXO-9 master oscillator 
boards. That makes it more difficult to attempt to adjust the trimmer which 
is not accessible in the installed position (I did not attempt an 
adjustment) but it does allow more room for adding foam insulation during 
the install.

One other task accomplished last night was to fabricate a tine plate sheet 
metal shield for the AC switching supply for the Acer laptop that captured 
the above ARGO image. Since I have a ground system that actually takes noise 
energy to ground now, I found it well worth the effort to make grounded 
magnetic shields for the laptop switching supply and the large binocular 
type 31 chokes I use on the AC and DC cables....I have a common ground wire 
that runs from the DC cable choke shield, to the switching supply shield, 
and to the AC choke shield, and then to the shack buss bar ground.  A big 
improvement was observed in near-field noise reduction observed using the 
FT-817 and it's rubber duck antenna as an RF sniffer at LF/MF and my 
converter IF range.

73 Mike wa3tts


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garry and Linda Hess" <k3siw at sbcglobal.net>
To: "lowfer mailing list" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] More VO1NA in EN90xn


> Mike, thanks for the heads up on VO1NA activity on 137.777 kHz. Not much
> signal seen here, just occasional bits through the night, but around
> 0830Z it picked up enough to decode "O1NA". MP of course was potent all
> the time. Didn't notice anything around 137.779 kHz, but after VO1NA
> faded away on 137.777 kHz with local sunrise nearing (1130Z) I did
> notice something around 137.7779 kHz. Perhaps he shifted frequency or
> but more likely that was an overload spur from MP. Shortly afterward MP
> definitely begin to show +/- sidebands of 0.7 and 1.4 Hz, probably
> internal to my SDR-IQ.
>
> 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL
>


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From listread at lwca.org  Sat Oct 31 13:01:05 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 12:01:05 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 137kHz overnight
References: <5634BB88.5050002@sbcglobal.net>
	<B148DA9F38654481B3325ED4D9C0E2D1@MichaelSappPC>
Message-ID: <39F02CA76CEB42F6A24D08E13D057A9F@HPNOTEBOOK>

>>> ON4KST chat

Oh goodie, Something else to have to sign up for and log into to get basic 
information that ought to be announced to the world. 


From w1tag at charter.net  Sat Oct 31 13:20:20 2015
From: w1tag at charter.net (John Andrews)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 13:20:20 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] 137kHz overnight
In-Reply-To: <39F02CA76CEB42F6A24D08E13D057A9F@HPNOTEBOOK>
References: <5634BB88.5050002@sbcglobal.net>
	<B148DA9F38654481B3325ED4D9C0E2D1@MichaelSappPC>
	<39F02CA76CEB42F6A24D08E13D057A9F@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <5634F854.4010804@charter.net>

JD,

On 10/31/2015 1:01 PM, JD wrote:
>>>> ON4KST chat
>
> Oh goodie, Something else to have to sign up for and log into to get
> basic information that ought to be announced to the world.

Actually, it's very useful, and allows real-time back and forth chat. 
It's also sort of necessary, because many mail list readers are offended 
by receiving large numbers of chat messages about things that may not 
concern them. Can't please everyone...

John, W1TAG

From w7iuv at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 31 13:42:11 2015
From: w7iuv at yahoo.com (Larry Molitor)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:42:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Lowfer] 136/137 RX
References: <1950235274.199397.1446313331771.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1950235274.199397.1446313331771.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

High winds yesterday blew down and damaged the RX loop. Made some repairs and it is back on monitoring 136 WSPR.
While I was working on it, I took a few minutes to check direction of that digi station on 135.950 kHz. Best I can tell, the loop nulls it at 10/190 degrees from DN07dg. Since I doubt it's in Canada, that bearing would put it around Pt. Reyes I think. Sound right?
The thing runs more than 60 dB above my noise on a quiet nite and I can see the sidebands all the way up to 138.
73,
Larry - W7IUV / WH2XGP

From listread at lwca.org  Sat Oct 31 17:58:55 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 16:58:55 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 137kHz overnight
References: <5634BB88.5050002@sbcglobal.net><B148DA9F38654481B3325ED4D9C0E2D1@MichaelSappPC><39F02CA76CEB42F6A24D08E13D057A9F@HPNOTEBOOK>
	<5634F854.4010804@charter.net>
Message-ID: <459B676F583B415AAB2DB8DF8FDB74CC@HPNOTEBOOK>

>>> Actually, it's very useful, and allows real-time back and forth chat. 
>>> It's also sort of necessary, because many mail list readers are offended 
>>> by receiving large numbers of chat messages about things that may not 
>>> concern them. Can't please everyone...

Don't I know it! And, I'm sure a chat room really is very useful.

It just seems to me that there ought to be provisions whereby those making 
monitoring plans for the evening wouldn't have to (a) formally log in 
somewhere and (b) remain watching in real time, simply to learn who's on or 
has been on this evening.  To participate in the discussion, sure, logging 
in is not too much to ask...but just to view skeds?

Reading on this list the next day that something went on at one end of the 
band while I was monitoring the other, and that some folks knew where to 
look while the rest of us hadn't gotten the memo, just about falls in the 
"things that may not concern us" category simply from being too late to be 
useful. ;)

But seriously, it does kind of raise the question of what _this_ list is 
good for if operators are only going to talk to each other on a chat room 
elsewhere.  Can there be some middle ground?

John D 


From listread at lwca.org  Sat Oct 31 18:13:17 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:13:17 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 136/137 RX
References: <1950235274.199397.1446313331771.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1950235274.199397.1446313331771.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5A84A1BC6BD948F3840147E9720C723F@HPNOTEBOOK>

It's most likely the old long-dormant Navy facility NPG at Dixon, CA 
reactivated, Larry, some 50 or so miles northeast of Point Reyes.  Not sure 
what the reasoning is after all this time.  One report indicates the 55.5 
kHz frequency is likely to be fired up, too; and frankly, that one makes 
more sense to me...but no one asked. ;)



From listread at lwca.org  Sat Oct 31 18:25:33 2015
From: listread at lwca.org (JD)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:25:33 -0500
Subject: [Lowfer] 136/137 RX (2)
References: <1950235274.199397.1446313331771.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com><1950235274.199397.1446313331771.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<5A84A1BC6BD948F3840147E9720C723F@HPNOTEBOOK>
Message-ID: <A2D705CD29B0495DABFA4965EE016E99@HPNOTEBOOK>

Meant to mention, it's a bit surprising that it is occupying so much 
bandwidth.  It's not as obviously wide here in the middle of the country as 
I'm sure it is out west, but the reason we can be pretty certain the source 
is Dixon is because the fisheries people on the west coast using 134.2 kHz 
RFID tags, 1.75 kHz away, have been getting lots of QRM and tracked it down. 
Kind of renders moot any concerns that amateur operations on 2200 m might 
bother the fish tracking program!

John D 


From jrusgrove at comcast.net  Sat Oct 31 19:51:23 2015
From: jrusgrove at comcast.net (jrusgrove at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 19:51:23 -0400
Subject: [Lowfer] 474.2 kHz WSPR good condx alert
Message-ID: <000e01d11437$0ca67f50$6401a8c0@JAYDELL>

Condx seem to be starting off well tonight with PA0A and DK7FC spots already in the 'log'. 

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2  

From hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 31 21:42:33 2015
From: hellozerohellozero at hotmail.com (Laurence KL7 L)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:42:33 -0800
Subject: [Lowfer] XPQ
Message-ID: <BLU185-W6401A2AC664EA02D0301C9CF2D0@phx.gbl>

XPQ from 0130z 475 wspr2 30% 300W and in parallel  from 0300z 137.776 dfcw45 delta 0,4Hz dash High XPQ 800W
Not expecting much but keep the worms amused
Laurence KL7L We2XPQ Alaska 		 	   		  

