From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Thu Jul  1 02:35:28 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Thu Jul  1 02:45:28 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Seattle Milcom JUNE 30
Message-ID: <072c01c45f35$99affed0$7b094104@default>

McChord AFB arrivals 124.8 Tower, 349.4 CP

REACH 918
REACH 931
REACH 9064
REACH 8055
SONIC 74

NAS Whidbey arrivals 120.7 Appr Ctl

YD 610
PJ 692

Misc

245.0 Vancouver Center. EVIL 01 cleared to Elmendorf AFB
264.9 BEAK 54 refueled HUSKY 23
342.5 McChord Metro. RAID 20 requested weather for RDR
279.6 Seattle Center. FURY 36 headed east
132.95 Paine Field Tower. Messerschmitt 2AZ went for a short test flight
http://microvoltradio.com/me262.htm


Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA



From kf4lmt at comcast.net  Thu Jul  1 06:01:36 2004
From: kf4lmt at comcast.net (Roland R. McCormick III)
Date: Thu Jul  1 11:15:12 2004
Subject: [MilCom] MCAS Beaufort
Message-ID: <000701c45f52$68ca9380$5aaa3344@rolandcea3qpbz>

The stand-down at MCAS Beaufort in response to the
recent crashes involving squadrons from the base is 
apparently over.  VMFA(AW)-224 and VMFA(AW)-
533 are both active this morning.  VMFA-142 is also
working out of Beaufort this morning, although one has
just RTB'd to Dobbins due to an engine problem.

Mac McCormick                      "Green Comms Suck"
Savannah, GA
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/kf4lmt/index.html

From jehaverlah at pdq.net  Thu Jul  1 14:55:52 2004
From: jehaverlah at pdq.net (Jeff Haverlah)
Date: Thu Jul  1 15:06:42 2004
Subject: [MilCom] MIL: 8992.0 - TROUT 99
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20040701135502.00a23bd0@pop.pdq.net>

1855z 01 Jul 04

      8992.0 was active at 1849z with TROUT 99 (fair/good levels here) 
working MCCLELLAN (unheard) for a signal check and gone.

Jeff Haverlah

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Jeff Haverlah               Coastal Texas           jehaverlah@pdq.net
      Drake R7 (Gilfer Mod)  Drake R8B               Ten-Tec RX320/GNRX320
      Panasonic RFB-65       JPS NIR-12/ANC-4        "wires" and loops
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From rfinder1 at verizon.net  Thu Jul  1 17:27:13 2004
From: rfinder1 at verizon.net (Ken)
Date: Thu Jul  1 17:36:58 2004
Subject: [MilCom] U/VHF Logs 6/17-6/30/04
Message-ID: <005a01c45fb2$2d28c300$6501a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>

Springfield MA Monitoring Area, period 6/17 through 6/30/04:

CALLSIGNS HEARD(aircraft type if known) :
BARNEY 1 & 2 (A10's)
BISON 88 (C130)
BOBCAT 23 (T45)
COAST GUARD 2133 (HU25)
COBB 31 (C130)
CORVET 1 (A10's)
GUARD (Copter) 727 (UH1)
HENO 1 &2 (A10's)
HOWDY 1 (A10's)
JAKE 1 (A10's)
LAZON 50 (unk)
NAVY JT049 (C9)
NOMAD 95 (CH47)
NOMAD 96 (CH47)
OPEC 39 (KC10)
POLO 29 HEAVY (C5)
POLO 99 HEAVY (C5)
REACH XXXX/XXX (HEAVY) (C5's, C130's)
RHODY 56 (C130)
ROD 01 HEAVY (C5)
ROD 06 HEAVY (C5)
ROD 22 HEAVY (C5)
ROD 25 HEAVY (C5)
ROD 31 HEAVY (C5)
ROD 38 HEAVY (C5)*
ROD 99 HEAVY (C5)*
ROOSTER 1 & 2 (A10's)
SHARK 1 (A10's)
SHOTGUN 1 (A10's)
TEAM 18 (KC10)
TEAM 38 (KC10)
TIGER 14 (P3) 
TIGER 72 (P3)**
TOPCAT 23 (T45)
*Callsign heard more than once during the period.

FREQUENCIES ACTIVE:
118.35 KCEF Ground Control
125.35 KBDL Approach/Departure Control
132.65 KZBW ARTCC
134.85 KCEF Tower
251.1 KBAF Tower
252.1 439 AW Cmd Post "Casino Royale"
274.75 KCEF Metro/Wx
275.8 KCEF Ground Control
287.5 Tactical Ops
295.8 Air Refueling Tactical Ops Coordination 
311.0 Tactical Ops air/air
319.4 McGuire AFB Cmd Post
324.6 Air Refueling Tactical Ops Coordination
325.8 KBDL Approach/Departure Control
348.3 KBDL Approach/Departure Control
379.1 KZBW ARTCC
379.4  105 AW Cmd Post "POLO OPS"
383.3 143 AW Cmd Post "Rhody Ops"
//end//

Ken


From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Thu Jul  1 17:28:13 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Thu Jul  1 17:38:17 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 13155.0
Message-ID: <002a01c45fb2$50f753a0$7b094104@default>

DECIBEL or maybe DECIMAL at 2044z
W3P4ME


Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA
Northwest Aircraft Communications
http://microvoltradio.com/


From mystic at ikansas.com  Thu Jul  1 20:13:26 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Thu Jul  1 20:24:49 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	01 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <001301c45fc9$769a37a0$66cb2740@u5a3b0>

316.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE PRIMARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
1530Z - SMOKY de SKULL-21
1623Z - SMOKY de SKULL-21
1742Z - SMOKY de CZAR-82, will be making 4 passes dry; have the BLOCK 10 -
11 & rqst weather.  Rqst descent to 5000.  OK, then we will stay 10 - 11 the
whole time.
1853Z - CZAR-83 playing among the T-STORMS; go comm 1; direct WICHITA, TULSA
flight plan route

363.200 (KZKC SALINA)
1730Z - CZAR-82
1823Z - CZAR-82, XX miles SW of SLN @ 10000.  Rqst 190 when able & will be
joining DEATH-43; Rg out. (broke that transmission right off)
1956Z - CZAR-84
2002Z - CZAR-83 FLIGHT

296.600 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
0024Z - FURY-36
1657Z - DUKE-41 rqst direct ANTHONY, direct VANCE

360.850 (KZKC UNIDENTIFIED NORTHEASTERN KANSAS HIGH DISCRETE)
1757Z - DUKE-14 285.4

343.700 (KZKC TOPEKA)
1708Z - FAST-## (put that mask were the sun ......)
1723Z - CZAR-82 checking in FL 200
1723Z - DEATH-43 rqst FL 390

263.100 (KZKC ANTHONY)
1711Z - DUKE-41 push 378.8

381.500 (KZKC CHILLICOTHE)
1853Z - CZAR-82
1854Z - DEATH-43

323.150 (KZKC SEDALIA)
1720Z - CZAR-82 rqst continue direct TOPEKA & DEATH-43 rqst direct EMPORIA

323.200 (KZKC EMPORIA)
1539Z - SKULL-21
1807Z - SKULL-21 FL 200

285.400 (KZKC EMPORIA)
1759Z - DUKE-14, FL 280 rqst direct VANCE when able

277.400 (KZKC SPRINGFIELD)
0154Z - DEATH-23 rqst direct KSZL when able

337.400 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
1706Z - SKULL-21 is enroute to the GARDEN CITY RADIALS to meet KANZA-64 to
conduct AR OPNS on AR-116 EAST

327.000 (KZKC BUTLER)
1901Z - CZAR-81

307.200 (KZMP HASTINGS)
0039Z - FURY-36
1650Z - DUKE-41

134.900 (KZKC SALINA)
1618Z - GASSER-32 rqst direct ANTHONY, direct ALTUS (saga of DOOM-91
terminates)
1620Z - WYLIE-41 rqst climb to FL 310

123.800 (KZKC TOPEKA)
1619Z - WYLIE-41 rqst direct SALINA

132.250 (KZKC EMPORIA)
1621Z - GASSER-32

366.300 (AR-116)
0026Z - HUSKER-25 conducted AR OPNS w/ TUFF-12 or it was HUSKER-12 w/
TUFF-25 (called each other by either the ## or the callword but not both
while I was listening, but believe it was 12 who went to BARKSDALE)
1541Z - SKULL-21 calling
1548Z - DOOM-91 de GASSER-32
1552Z - GASSER-32 de SKULL-21, do you hear DOOM-91?  21 de 32, negative.
DOOM-91 de SKULL-21 on AR PRIMARY.  GASSER de SKULL, no joy.  Rg, we are
attempting to contact them on HF.  Thanks for your efforts
1713Z - KANZA-64 co-ordinates w/ SKULL-21 to commence AR OPNS @ 1730Z on
AR-116

343.500 (AR-016)
1539Z - JAYHAWK-11 de GLORY-67

260.200 (MULTIPLE AR SECONDARY)
1617Z - HUSKER-16 & HUSKER-17 conduct AR OPNS w/ TUFF-12 & TUFF-13.  TUFF-??
(600035)

260.200 (AR-116 SECONDARY)
1750Z - KANZA-64 conduct AR OPNS w/ SKULL-21

283.900 (AR-309)
1751Z - WYLIE-41 conducts AR OPNS w/ TBIRD-##; contact KZKC CENTRE on 269.4
(no joy today hearing western KS...TSTORMs running rampant)

143.850 (TBIRD A-2-A)
1752Z - TBIRD-## w/ TBIRD-##

388.850 (509th BOMB WING; WHITEMAN AFB; A-2-A)
1920Z - LEAD de 2 say airspeed (see 316.9 entry @ 1853Z)
1955Z - CZAR-84 FLIGHT, go TAD 1 on AUX
2007Z - CZAR-82 on AUX

326.200 (KEND APP)
1717Z - BISON-08
1916Z - BISON-52
2037Z - HYDRA-34
2213Z - BISON-51
2312Z - HYDRA-02

375.200 (KIAB METRO)
1547Z - McCONNELL BASE OPNS de GLORY-67 (saga of where is JAYHAWK-11
continues)
2120Z - BONES-01, 70 miles west of KIAB & a KC-10 is taking us around the
weather

342.550 (KEND METRO)
1714Z - de MOJO-11, rqst current weather for FORT SMITH, ARKANSAS & TULSA

286.500 (190th ARW KSANG; FORBES FIELD: WYLIE CONTROL)
1600Z - de GASSER-32, can you call ____ & check status of DOOM-91 for us?
Have DSN 781-3226 for BASE OPNS.
16XXZ - WYLIE-41 de GASSER-32, we are looking for DOOM-91
1613Z - FORBES OPNS de GASSER-32, try DSN 781-6932 & rqst status of DOOM-91
1617Z - de WYLIE-41
1821Z - WYLIE-41 is CODE-02 for BOOM write-up

349.400 (AIR MOBILITY CMD)
1626Z - GERAMINO (sounded like) de GASSER-32 (one-time call)

311.000 (COMMAND POST)
1542Z - McCONNELL CMD POST de GLORY-67, rqsting status of JAYHAWK-11
1551Z - SHOCKER CONTROL de GASSER-32,  rqsting status of DOOM-91 on AR-116
1613Z - RAYMOND-21 or ANY CMD POST de GASSER-32
2228Z - WYLIE CONTROL de WYLIE-12, Rg that.

321.000 (COMMAND POST)
0201Z - SHOCKER MAINT. de KANZA-57, CODE-1 & 30 minutes out
0216Z - SHOCKER CONTROL de (sounded like) TUBRO-28, take-off 0212Z
0336Z - SHOCKER MAINT. de KANZA-59, 30 minutes out; 20K on the fuel & 1
write-up (HF radio knob inoperable).  Rg, BRAVO-31
0647Z - SHOCKER CONTROL & MAINT. de TURBO-36; 30 minutes out; 25K on the
fuel & CODE-1 w/ 0 write-ups.  Rqst parking

HAPPY BIRTHDAY :-)
http://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/PopTopics/aircorpsact.htm
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From kc8mzm at bellsouth.net  Thu Jul  1 20:26:41 2004
From: kc8mzm at bellsouth.net (Mike Riffle)
Date: Thu Jul  1 20:36:42 2004
Subject: [MilCom] July 4th Weekend Flyovers
References: <4d.40c1ff79.2e149431@aol.com>
Message-ID: <007d01c45fcb$3f799930$6414a8c0@beta1>

According to the NOTAMs, here are the jump times (EDT) for the Leap Frogs:
         2 July 1145-1215    3 July 1800-1830    4 July 1235-1305
Also this past week one of the ROGUE F-15s from Robins AFB requested a
deviation from his test flight so he could check out a July 4th flyover
site.

Mike Riffle
Cataula, GA

----- Original Message ----- 
<Airshowfreak5@aol.com> wrote:

> For all in the ATL area this weekend there will be something to look and
> listen out for.
>
> On July 3rd & 4th  the USN  Leap Frogs Parachute Team will throw out the
> first pitch by parachute.
>
> On Saturday, July 3rd  T-45s from VT-7 will flyover the Atlanta Braves
Game.
>
> On Sunday, July 4th  4 F/A-18s from VFA-201 will flyover the Braves Game.
>
> Hopefully, All these flyovers will stage out of Dobbins/NAS Atlanta.
>
> Possibly more flyovers, Although still not assured.
>
> Adam
> Marietta,Ga


From glenniec at bellsouth.net  Thu Jul  1 21:09:35 2004
From: glenniec at bellsouth.net (A. Glen Childress)
Date: Thu Jul  1 21:19:08 2004
Subject: [MilCom] SC LOGS FOR 07/01/04
Message-ID: <003e01c45fd1$4fedbac0$9ac12343@glenniec>

It has been a slow week around here.  I am not sure if it is because of all
the storms and rain we are having or because the 4th is coming up.

Logs heard while traveling today.
138.25 F-16CJ 55th SHAW

323.00 ATL

343.75 BULLDOG MOA someone checked in but never heard any other activity.

141.925 MACE 1,2,3 SC ANG McEntire F-16's morning flight.  I heard some more
later in the day.

138.90 F-16CJ 79th maybe (not sure) SHAW.  I first thought this was some
kind of orientation flight late this evening.  One pilot was asking all
sorts of questions about his HUD and radar, and screens in the cockpit.  The
other guy had them lock on a corporate jet a time or two to check things
out.  Turns out both guys must have been
having some trouble with something and neither knew what to do to fix it.

327.15 or 372.15 one of the above pilots I believe said push this freq.
Weak signal when I heard this.  Anyone know what this freq is?

I also stopped by the Donaldson Center today.  I counted 5 C-130's out
there.  One is a USCG.  The others are Gray and could not make out who or
what they were.  There are several P-3 outside the hanger and a few inside
being worked on.  One of the P-3's is from The Royal Netherlands Navy.  It
looks like it has a nice new paint job on it.

Have a great 4th,

A. Glen "Glennie" Childress
Anderson, SC
http://www.photobuilders.com/sortie/sortie.html
http://www.av8rstuff.com/ great source of military patches.
http://www.robertlundquist.com great aviation art work
http://www.baddude.com great aviation shirts.



From glenniec at bellsouth.net  Thu Jul  1 21:21:14 2004
From: glenniec at bellsouth.net (A. Glen Childress)
Date: Thu Jul  1 21:30:16 2004
Subject: [MilCom] SC LOGS FOR 07/01/04
References: <003e01c45fd1$4fedbac0$9ac12343@glenniec>
Message-ID: <005a01c45fd2$df1235e0$9ac12343@glenniec>

Left off this one from tonight.

311.00 WILEY 42 ??? Any ID on this guy?  Calling SODA CONTROL.

A. Glen "Glennie" Childress
Anderson, SC
http://www.photobuilders.com/sortie/sortie.html
http://www.av8rstuff.com/ great source of military patches.
http://www.robertlundquist.com great aviation art work
http://www.baddude.com great aviation shirts.


----- Original Message -----
From: "A. Glen Childress" <glenniec@bellsouth.net>
To: "MILCOM" <milcom@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 9:09 PM
Subject: [MilCom] SC LOGS FOR 07/01/04


> It has been a slow week around here.  I am not sure if it is because of
all
> the storms and rain we are having or because the 4th is coming up.
>
> Logs heard while traveling today.
> 138.25 F-16CJ 55th SHAW
>
> 323.00 ATL
>
> 343.75 BULLDOG MOA someone checked in but never heard any other activity.
>
> 141.925 MACE 1,2,3 SC ANG McEntire F-16's morning flight.  I heard some
more
> later in the day.
>
> 138.90 F-16CJ 79th maybe (not sure) SHAW.  I first thought this was some
> kind of orientation flight late this evening.  One pilot was asking all
> sorts of questions about his HUD and radar, and screens in the cockpit.
The
> other guy had them lock on a corporate jet a time or two to check things
> out.  Turns out both guys must have been
> having some trouble with something and neither knew what to do to fix it.
>
> 327.15 or 372.15 one of the above pilots I believe said push this freq.
> Weak signal when I heard this.  Anyone know what this freq is?
>
> I also stopped by the Donaldson Center today.  I counted 5 C-130's out
> there.  One is a USCG.  The others are Gray and could not make out who or
> what they were.  There are several P-3 outside the hanger and a few inside
> being worked on.  One of the P-3's is from The Royal Netherlands Navy.  It
> looks like it has a nice new paint job on it.
>
> Have a great 4th,
>
> A. Glen "Glennie" Childress
> Anderson, SC
> http://www.photobuilders.com/sortie/sortie.html
> http://www.av8rstuff.com/ great source of military patches.
> http://www.robertlundquist.com great aviation art work
> http://www.baddude.com great aviation shirts.
>
>
>
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From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Thu Jul  1 20:57:31 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Thu Jul  1 21:34:38 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Charleston AFB Logs 30 June 04
Message-ID: <024901c45fd3$5707e590$c4d84fd8@Marks>

349.400 Charleston CP
------------------------
REACH 9058
LIFTER 80
LIFTER 39
PALM 20
REACH 609H
REACH 950
PALM 31
GRITS 39
GOOSE 82 checking on status of their receiver SENTRY 05
LIFTER 23
REACH 1194
REACH 7029
RULER 17 
GRITS 37
BASCO 76
LIFTER 35
VOLT 52 (C-17A, tail # 95-0107)
REACH 6021
REACH 5106
GRITS 55
REACH 676


239.000 Tower
----------------
LL 55 (P-3C, VP-30)


311.000 RAYMOND 19
--------------------------
REACH 717 inbound, A3, 3 PAX, 6 crew, 1 pallet


157.050 USCG
-----------------
CG 6551 (HH-65B)
CG 6595 (HH-65B) on a rescue for person on a jetski killed by lightning




Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
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http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Thu Jul  1 21:23:40 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Thu Jul  1 21:35:03 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF Logs 30 June 04
Message-ID: <024c01c45fd3$641459d0$c4d84fd8@Marks>

[00:19:23][FRQ  5732000][TO ][J09            ][TIS][LNT            ][AL0] BER 30 SN 18 followed by CAMSLANT hailing JULIET 09 with No Joy

1252Z    8983.0    CAMSLANT wkg SHARK 16

1302Z    8983.0    CG 2139 (HU-25, CGAS Miami) airborne with 3 POV. QSY 5696 kHz

1344Z    7527.0    JULIET 39 requesting guard from CAMSPAC

1603Z    8992.0    SKIER 86 (C-130H, 139 AS, NY-ANG) p/p via Andrews HF-GCS to DSN 344-2326 Schenectady County AP-Stratton ANGS CP/OPS. State they have a mechanical problem and are 1 and a half hours south of Schenectady on their way to Niagara Falls. Request to know if they can come in for a tail swap rather than continuing on and having to have another plane brought up to Niagara Falls for them. Told to call back in 15 minutes.

1638Z    8992.0    SKIER 86 p/p via Andrews HF-GCS to Schenectady County AP-Stratton ANGS CP/OPS. Reports they have shut down # 3 engine. They are told to come on in and an aircraft will be ready when they land. They are inbound with 45 PAX and 2 pallets

1644Z    8992.0    RANGER 32 (KC-130, VMGR-234, NAS Fort Worth) wkg Andrews HF-GCS. QSY 13200 kHz

1649Z    13200.0    RANGER 32 p/p via Andrews HF-GCS to DSN 497-5052 Robins AFB

2222Z    10993.6    ANDVT

2240Z    8912.0    17C on final to W6 secures guard with PANTHER

2300Z    8992.0    YD 610 (P-3C, VP-4, MCAF Kaneohe Bay, HI) p/p via Offutt HF-GCS to DSN 820-8356 Whidbey Island. QSY 11175 kHz


ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: 504, 704, 712, 719, A41, A50, C50, CS1, CS2, CS3, CS4, CS5, CS6, CS8, CS9, D43, F29, F33, F40, I3L, I54, I55, I75, I96, J01, J03, J09, J15, J17, J25, J37, J38, LNT, M46, OPB, PAC, PR1, T72, T85, TSC, X53

ALE addresses monitored on FBI/PANTHER Nets: NF1, PNR400, RH1, WF1




Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
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http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Thu Jul  1 21:31:22 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Thu Jul  1 21:41:26 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Charleston AFB Logs 1 July 04
Message-ID: <02b101c45fd4$4ac0c7b0$c4d84fd8@Marks>

349.400 Charleston CP
------------------------
TIN CAN 81
TIN CAN 82
MOOSE 43
LIFTER 80
LIFTER 91
LIFTER 93





Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
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http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Thu Jul  1 21:49:42 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Thu Jul  1 21:59:46 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF Logs 1 July 04
Message-ID: <02dd01c45fd6$d94b5750$c4d84fd8@Marks>

0048Z    5717.0    HALIFAX MILITARY wkg RESCUE 311. Passes from RCC a request for their ETA to Greenwood

2209Z    8983.0    CG 2105 (HU-25, CGAS Miami) airborne with 5 POV en route to Borinquen

2229Z    8992.0    SAM 7547 p/p via Andrews HF-GCS to Andrews Meteo for 0001z WX

2236Z    6234.5    ANDVT

2241Z    11205.0    TIGER 37 (P-3C) ops normal report to SMASHER. Position 20-23N 069-34W, heading 134, speed 280 knots, FL 190, squawk 3331. ETA to destination 0001z

2258Z    13200.0    SAM 7547 p/p via Puerto Rico HF-GCS to Andrews Meteo


ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: 700, 714, 718, CS1, CS3, CS6, CS9, I00, I08, I14, I34, I3L, I54, J03, J11, J23, J25, J36, J39, LNT, M46, OPB, PAC, T85, X60

ALE addresses monitored on FBI/PANTHER Nets: MM1, NF1, PNR400, RH1, SJ1, WF1




Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
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http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From N3VMY at prodigy.net  Thu Jul  1 22:17:41 2004
From: N3VMY at prodigy.net (Richard L. Kramer)
Date: Thu Jul  1 22:26:28 2004
Subject: [MilCom] SE PA logs
Message-ID: <006d01c45fda$c2e1be60$9e0cef04@default>

Hi All; The first set of posts are from the WWII show at Reading Regional
Airport,  PA on the Mid Atlantic Air Museum side of the field from 6-6-04.

453.4250 Security/Maintenance/Admin.
121.9000 Ground.
119.9/288.3 Tower.
125.15/257.9 Approach/departure.
119.2500 Air Boss/Tower; this freq is uaually an unused app/dep freq for
back-up.
123.5000 Air Boss ground ops.
238.1500 Air Boss/Team 63 Heavy (McGuire KC10) /Rock 52 (C130 Willow Grove)
flybys.
151.8950 Air Boss / Announcer coordination.
146.5500 Yankee Air Museum B25 WAYAF air mobile 3 Special Events station /
N3VMY - that's me! ; talked to the operator as they headed out to Michigan.

6/30
237.2000   1930z   Colt 1/2 (Glen Martin State, MD A10's) / Balky; KIOWA
range at Ft. Indiantown Gap, PA.
142.3000   1945z   Colt 1/2 a/a.
126.2000   2330z   Mystic 56 (helo) / Muir AAF tower, Ft. Indiantown Gap,
PA.

7/1
321.0000   0110z   Piston 42 / Opec 48 on ACC CP CH#2.
128.5750   0115z   Piston 42 / ZNY.
133.6750   0145z   Opec 48 / ZNY.

*Freq Change: ZNY 135.75 to 124.625.

Rich - Reading, PA

From jason_esva at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  1 22:17:07 2004
From: jason_esva at yahoo.com (Jason None)
Date: Thu Jul  1 22:27:15 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Teamspeak Offline
In-Reply-To: <20040301090240.468F3328C6A@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <20040702021707.99374.qmail@web52001.mail.yahoo.com>

Milcom Members

I am sorry for the off topic post
but I been unable to login into
Mark "nightwatch" teamspeak 
server with no response via
e-mail from Mark or Jeff anyone 
who knows what happen on please send 
me a e-mail please dont post to
Milcom

Thank you

Jason R
Jason_esva@yahoo.com


		
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From KJFFDNY at aol.com  Thu Jul  1 22:27:22 2004
From: KJFFDNY at aol.com (KJFFDNY@aol.com)
Date: Thu Jul  1 22:37:32 2004
Subject: [MilCom] USAF AERIAL EVENTS 
Message-ID: <149.2d12e6b5.2e16220a@aol.com>

Here is the website for the USAF aerial events for ACC.
 
 
_http://www.airshows.pa.hq.af.mil/welcome.html_ 
(http://www.airshows.pa.hq.af.mil/welcome.html) 
From kstein at erols.com  Thu Jul  1 23:15:45 2004
From: kstein at erols.com (Keith Stein)
Date: Thu Jul  1 23:29:38 2004
Subject: [MilCom] NASA DC-8 Aircraft Flights
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20040701230214.00a0ad20@pop.erols.com>

NASA DC-8 Aircraft Flights

NASA's DC-8 aircraft (call sign NASA817) will be flying airborne science 
missions across North America for the next two months.

The flights will be operated from NASA's Dryden Flight Research Center, 
Edwards, Calif., where the DC-8 is based; MidAmerica Airport, St. Louis; 
and Pease International Tradeport, Portsmouth, N.H.

July 6 - NASA817 departs Edwards and heads for MidAmerica Airport, St. Louis.

July 9 - Press day at MidAmerica Airport, St. Louis.

July 15 - NASA817 departs MidAmerica Airport, St. Louis and heads to Pease 
International Tradeport, Portsmouth, N.H.

July 26 - Press day at Pease International Tradeport, Portsmouth, N.H.

Aug. 11 - NASA817 departs Pease International Tradeport, Portsmouth, N.H. 
and heads for MidAmerica Airport, St. Louis.

Aug. 14 - NASA817 departs MidAmerica Airport, St. Louis and heads for Edwards.


From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Thu Jul  1 23:28:55 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Thu Jul  1 23:39:03 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/1/04
Message-ID: <e4.51efa137.2e163077@aol.com>

Good active day here.

BARRY 540 (SW-4/Merlin, Gov't Contract Aircraft) 120.75, lands Dobbins. 
(Would later depart, Cleared to Augusta (GA) (KAGS))

GATOR 61 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Marine Beaufort (KNBC). (Would return around 1540z)

GUARD 26608 (UH-60, FL-ArNG) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

LOCKHEED 5550 (C-130J, Lockheed Test) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. (Would 
return around 1645z)

COBB 50 flight of 3 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75>121.0>133.1 (A/A 239.975), 
takeoff Dobbins. (Would return around 1730z)

ARMY 01051 (UC-35, 2-228th AVN) 120.75>121.0>125.7, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared 
to Portland (ME) (KPWM).

NAVY JS 980 (C-9, NAS Atlanta) 134.125, lands Dobbins.

RED DOG 11 (AH-1, NAS Atlanta) 120.75, (Working Pattern.)

PAT 089 (UC-35) 134.125, lands Dobbins. (Depart Later.)

GATOR 21 flight of ?2? (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875 (A/A 328.55), lands 
Dobbins.

BOGEY 99 (F-5, NAS Fallon) 370.875>268.7>284.7>306.2>350.325, takeoff 
Dobbins. Cleared to Navy Fort Worth (KNFW).

WOLF 02 (E-2, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Marine 
Beaufort (KNBC). (Return Later.)

PAT 279 (??) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

YANKEE 67 (KC-130, Stewart) 134.125, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart 
around 2140z, Cleared to Marine Cherry Point (KNKT).)

VALOR 64 (T-37, Columbus) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

COBRA 10 (EA-6, NAF Washington) 370.875>268.7, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to  
Navy Andrews/Washington (NSF).

ROCKET 14 (F-16, Edwards) 370.875, lands Dobbins. (Since he parked on 
Lockheed Ramp (382.6) I would suspect there's a Raptor flight to come in the next few 
days.)

NAVY JS 266 (C-9, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0>125.7, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared 
to Navy Pensacola (KNPA). (Would return around 0130z)

LOBO 162 (C-12?) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins.

WOLF 01 (E-2, NAS Atlanta) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

GUARD 22458 (Army Helo, Dobbins) 120.75, (Working in the area.)

GUARD 22416 (UH-1, Dobbins) 120.75, (Working in the area.)

COBB 60 flight of 3 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75 (A/A 239.975), takeoff Dobbins 
(Originally cleared to Augusta, Instead, Worked the pattern for about 3hrs, 
0200z.)

WOLF 03 (E-2, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared out VFR to 
Rome (GA). (Would return around 0040z)

SPAT 79 (C-130) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart around 0020z, 
Cleared to Hurlburt Field (KHRT).) (Can anyone ID this callsign? I have nothing on 
him.)
------------------------------------------------
?VALOR? 61 (T-37?, Columbus) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 306.2>353.8>357.6>360.75, 
rqst'd wx conditions at Robins.
??? w/ Atlanta Cntr; 299.2>353.5, FL 230 (Anyone know what 353.5 is used for? 
I dont believe it's ATL ARTCC)
ARMY 01052 (UC-35, OSACOM, Andrews) takeoff KFTY 118.5>121.0>126.7
------------------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga
From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Thu Jul  1 23:33:11 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Thu Jul  1 23:43:19 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 01 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <84.2d3d923e.2e163177@aol.com>

All sorts of strange callsigns roaming the skies today.

291.675: HORNET-72, (F/A-18E/F, Lemoore), land; then on to Lemoore.
275.80:  REDEYE-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), clered to Cheyenne MOA.
121.60:  REACH 5581, (C-130, Little Rock), cleared to Travis.
291.675: BONES-61, flight of 4, (F-15, Tyndall), land; then on to Barksdale.
319.00:  SPAD-91, (Poss F-16, Ft Worth), with Denver Center, FL 350. Switch 
323.25 and cleared direct Hill.
319.00:  VOODOO-01, flight of 2, (Unk fighter type), with Denver Center, FL 
330. Switch 354.15.
349.20:  VOODOO-02, flight of 2, (Unk), request WX Tulsa 1630Z.
319.00:  MOJO-11, (Poss F-16 Shaw), with Denver Center, FL 430. Switch 263.00.
228.45:  MOJO-11, (Poss F-16, Shaw), request WX Fort Smith and Little Rock 
for 1830Z.
275.80:  REDEYE-21, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared to Two Buttes MOA.
228.45:  HOIST-71, (KC-10A, McGuire), request WX Buckley, for McConnell at 
2100Z and for Tyndall at 2200Z.
349.20:  BONES-01, (Poss F-15 Tyndall), calling Peterson Metro. 

Sandy
Denver, CO
From mystic at ikansas.com  Thu Jul  1 23:59:00 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Fri Jul  2 00:45:52 2004
Subject: [MilCom] SC LOGS FOR 07/01/04
References: <003e01c45fd1$4fedbac0$9ac12343@glenniec>
	<005a01c45fd2$df1235e0$9ac12343@glenniec>
Message-ID: <00df01c45fed$e68cede0$66cb2740@u5a3b0>

Hey Glen,
0354Z - 286.500 - WYLIE CONTROL de WYLIE-42, x minutes out; landing w/ 25.4K
(getting specific for some reason) on the fuel & will be full stop

73
clear 6
walt
----- Original Message ----- 

Glen wrote @  Thursday, July 01, 2004 8:21 PM:
>
> 311.00 WILEY 42 ??? Any ID on this guy?  Calling SODA CONTROL.

From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Fri Jul  2 01:10:24 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul  2 01:20:29 2004
Subject: [MilCom] July 4th Weekend Flyovers
Message-ID: <1ca.24eb6d87.2e164840@aol.com>

Looks as if you can add a 2x ship UH-1 & 1x ship UH-60 air display for Sunday 
over Lenox Square Mall in Atlanta. 

Should be interesting!

Adam
Marietta,Ga
From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Fri Jul  2 02:26:43 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Fri Jul  2 02:36:51 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Seattle Milcom JULY 1
Message-ID: <00cc01c45ffd$8b6652c0$7b094104@default>

McChord AFB arrivals 124.8, 349.4 Tower

REACH 2109
JUICE 1 and 2 123rd FS F-15 low approach, then to Whidbey, then W-570

NAS Whidbey arrivals 120.7, 270.8 Appr Ctl

MARLIN 2
RAYGUN 2
SKYBOLT 1


Misc

293.7 141 ARW Guard Ops. EXPO 88 inbound Fairchild AFB
337.3 TSC Whidbey. REDHOOK 802 off deck

HF 6761.0

CADDO 84 called GERONIMO several times


Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA
Northwest Aircraft Communications
http://microvoltradio.com/warbirds.htm


From rj_721 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  2 07:46:20 2004
From: rj_721 at yahoo.com (rod jones)
Date: Fri Jul  2 07:56:25 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 01 JUL 2004
In-Reply-To: <84.2d3d923e.2e163177@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20040702114620.39873.qmail@web20923.mail.yahoo.com>

--- Sandy4218@aol.com wrote:
> All sorts of strange callsigns roaming the skies today.
> 
> 291.675: HORNET-72, (F/A-18E/F, Lemoore), land; then on to Lemoore.
> 275.80:  REDEYE-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), clered to Cheyenne MOA.
> 121.60:  REACH 5581, (C-130, Little Rock), cleared to Travis.
> 291.675: BONES-61, flight of 4, (F-15, Tyndall), land; then on to Barksdale.
> 319.00:  SPAD-91, (Poss F-16, Ft Worth), with Denver Center, FL 350. Switch 
> 323.25 and cleared direct Hill.
> 319.00:  VOODOO-01, flight of 2, (Unk fighter type), with Denver Center, FL 
> 330. Switch 354.15.

Sandy, heard a VOODOO 1 around 2110z on Atlanta Ctr Athens, then passed to Atlanta Ctr Owing. I
didn't get an ID either. Thought maybe he/they were going to Shaw, but never heard.

Rod
Atlanta




		
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From rj_721 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  2 08:30:07 2004
From: rj_721 at yahoo.com (rod jones)
Date: Fri Jul  2 08:40:13 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Atl Logs 7-1-04
Message-ID: <20040702123007.5487.qmail@web20927.mail.yahoo.com>

Haven't had much time later to monitor, but yesterday on the way home from work heard a little.

2102z
119.6 (Atl App/Dep for Robins AFB and Macon, Ga area)
AF-2 on approach (I assume to Robins AFB).

2348z
311.0 RAYMOND 19, Robins AFB
GHOST 85 reporting inbound, if he ID'ed I missed it.

0003z
124.2 (Atl App/Dep for Robins AFB and Macon, Ga area)
GHOST 85, told Robins is closed until 0015z, so he holds

0021z
134.1 Robins Dispatch
REACH 354T asks Robins to relay to Martin State ARB they were off KMCN (Middle Georgia Regional,
Macon, Ga) and heading to KADW (Andrews AFB). AF-2 support?

Rod
Atlanta



		
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From radio3353 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  2 08:38:36 2004
From: radio3353 at yahoo.com (Bob)
Date: Fri Jul  2 08:48:42 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Digital Decoding Question
Message-ID: <20040702123836.14878.qmail@web40410.mail.yahoo.com>

I am thinking of picking up a laptop for the shack to
run digital decoding software. This usually requires a
connection from the line out jack of the receiver to
the line in jack of the computer sound card. I know
laptops come with mic in and headphone out jacks, but
do they typically have line in jacks?

Thanks in advance for all help.

Bob
Bucks County, PA


	
		
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From shawnl at prodigy.net  Fri Jul  2 11:12:09 2004
From: shawnl at prodigy.net (Shawn Levy, USMC S-2)
Date: Fri Jul  2 11:22:17 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 01 JUL 2004
In-Reply-To: <20040702114620.39873.qmail@web20923.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20040702151209.59307.qmail@web81706.mail.yahoo.com>

Guys, we had a VOODOO 1 here at NAS New Orleans for a couple months this year. I'd guess maybe an F-15? He'd go up anytime local JAZZ & REX F-15s went into the EAGLE GOLF MOA. Weird thing was he'd fly there 5-10 minutes before them, was quiet during the fights, and depart afterwards back to NAS N.O. I never got an ID on it either.
 
I don't know if that's still the case, I haven't had much time to listen to anything for the past month.
 
Shawn

rod jones <rj_721@yahoo.com> wrote:

> 319.00: VOODOO-01, flight of 2, (Unk fighter type), with Denver Center, FL 
> 330. Switch 354.15.

Sandy, heard a VOODOO 1 around 2110z on Atlanta Ctr Athens, then passed to Atlanta Ctr Owing. I
didn't get an ID either. Thought maybe he/they were going to Shaw, but never heard.

Rod
Atlanta





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From kc8mzm at bellsouth.net  Fri Jul  2 14:08:04 2004
From: kc8mzm at bellsouth.net (Mike Riffle)
Date: Fri Jul  2 14:18:15 2004
Subject: [MilCom] USAF AERIAL EVENTS 
References: <149.2d12e6b5.2e16220a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002001c4605f$84ffe920$6414a8c0@beta1>

To go along with the schedules, have a look at the following documents which
detail every maneuver to be flown including the narration to be used:

A-10, F-15, F-16 (2239K) - 376.025 seems to be a common discrete freq
http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/pubfiles/af/11/afi11-246v1/afi11-246v1.pdf
T-6A Texan II (1362K) - east coast team uses 283.7 discrete
http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/pubfiles/af/11/afi11-246v2/afi11-246v2.pdf
F-22 (737K)
http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/pubfiles/af/11/afi11-246v3/afi11-246v3.pdf
MC-130, MH-53 (348K)
http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/pubfiles/af/11/afi11-246v5/afi11-246v5.pdf
C-17, C-130, KC-135, UH-1 (311K)
http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/pubfiles/af/11/afi11-246v6/afi11-246v6.pdf

For instance, did you know the F-22 is limited to a max 3 G maneuver?
However, at Edwards AFB it is authorized a max effort takeoff and climb to
30,000ft followed by a supercruise run at 1.4 Mach!

Mike Riffle
Cataula, GA

----- Original Message ----- 
<KJFFDNY@aol.com> wrote:


> Here is the website for the USAF aerial events for ACC.
>  
>  
> _http://www.airshows.pa.hq.af.mil/welcome.html_ 
> (http://www.airshows.pa.hq.af.mil/welcome.html) 
 

From kc8mzm at bellsouth.net  Fri Jul  2 15:00:40 2004
From: kc8mzm at bellsouth.net (Mike Riffle)
Date: Fri Jul  2 15:10:49 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/1/04
References: <e4.51efa137.2e163077@aol.com>
Message-ID: <003401c46066$de8ab720$6414a8c0@beta1>

> SPAT 79 (C-130) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart around 0020z, 
> Cleared to Hurlburt Field (KHRT).) (Can anyone ID this callsign? I have 
> nothing on him.)

Sounds like SPAD to me. He's been using the SPAD 79 callsign since I first
heard him on Monday. One possibility is that 79 is the last 2 digits of his
tail #. Going that route we have:
63-7879 37th AS, Ramstein AB (doubtful)
74-1679 40th AS, Dyess AFB
79-0479 192nd AS, Reno NV
Noteworthy is that he reports inbound to Hurlburt CP on 140.4 using their
reporting format which uses code words for either the position or maint
status (haven't determined which it is). Also last night he reported
inbound to Dobbins on 372.2 with the AF band.

> ??? w/ Atlanta Cntr; 299.2>353.5, FL 230 (Anyone know what 353.5 is used
> for? I dont believe it's ATL ARTCC)

353.5 has 2 possibilities for our area: the Jacksonville ARTCC sector at
Dothan AL or the Memphis ARTCC sector at Shelbyville TN. Since 299.2 is the
Atlanta ARTCC sector at Chattanooga I'd say you heard him in TN.

Mike Riffle
Cataula, GA

From Rapbep at aol.com  Fri Jul  2 16:39:13 2004
From: Rapbep at aol.com (Rapbep@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul  2 16:49:28 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Andrews AFB/NAS Patuxent River Logs, 2 Jul 04
Message-ID: <11b.33f56621.2e1721f1@aol.com>

Fairly slow day today.

1. ANDREWS AFB: 
[Tower (118.4/349.0); CP (141.55;378.1); PTD (122.85; 372.2): Potomac 
TRACON/Reagan National APP/DEP(119.3;335.5;124.2;118.95;119.85;125.65)] 

HOME BASED:

Venus 82 (VC-9 # 76-1682, 99th AS)- depart.
Navy AX 312 (C-130T, VR-53)- depart
Bully flight (2 X F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG)- on sqdn freq (127.275) w/laser 
guided bomb (LGB) training.
Mussel 01, 02, 04, 06 (UH-1s, 1st Helo Sqdn)- local area operations.
Ravage flight (2 X F-16s, 121st DC ANG)- on sqdn freq (139.35). Also w/Pax 
River (305.2 & 270.8) for entry into restricted areas.
Mussel 07 (UH-1, 1st Helo Sqdn)- w/helo using callsign Silver Dollar (292.2). 
Establishing a GPS time hack to coordinate VIP pick up. Later Silver Dollar 
uses callsign Mussel 05.

VISITORS :

Reach 907 (id as heavy)- depart.
Reach 343T- land. Called himself Rhody 343 one time so must be a RI ANG C-130 
from Quonset Point.
Mingo 01 (id as C-20H # 92-0375, 76th AS Ramstein)- land w/DV-3 plus 5.
Reach 934- land
Reach 345T- depart. Sounds like same guy who came in earlier as R343T.
Blackjack 016 (TH-57C # 162016, HX-21 Patuxent River)- approaches.
PAT 100 (helo)- land
JOSA 035- land

2. PATUXENT RIVER NAS:
[NTPS-Test Pilot School; NSATS (VX-23)-Strike Aircraft Test Squadron; NFATS 
(VX-20)-Force Aircraft Test Squadron-;NRWATS (HX-21)-Rotary Wing Aircraft Test 
Squadron- 119.275; 120.05; 123.7; 127.95; 256.5; 270.8; 281.8; 354.8]

Tester 05 (T-38, NTPS)- w/Bay Watch (270.8) reporting completion of Mach 1.1 
speed run at 33,000 ft.

3. MISCELLANEOUS:

November 1 (Gulfstream FAA HQs)- depart Reagan National.
Harass 11 & 12 (F-15s Langley AFB)- w/Huntress (228.9) on DC CAP duty.
Tanker 57 (CAP tanker) w/Huntress (228.9) & w/Harass 11 (320.6).

RON
MIDDLE ATLANTIC MILCOM
MARYLAND, USA
PRO-2045 W/D-130J DISCONE
From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Fri Jul  2 18:21:44 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Fri Jul  2 18:31:55 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 13155.0
Message-ID: <011701c46082$f5a08810$7b094104@default>

LOST DIME on 13155.0 and 6697.0 at 2215z
W3HNXJ


Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA
Northwest Aircraft Communications
http://microvoltradio.com/warbirds.htm


From nsawc1 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  2 19:19:57 2004
From: nsawc1 at yahoo.com (nsawc1)
Date: Fri Jul  2 19:30:13 2004
Subject: [MilCom] NAS Fallon 6/28
Message-ID: <cc4qit+lpbt@eGroups.com>

Small Log:
271.400 HAWK 01 F/A-18/VFA-97 - Targeting scuds and passing lines, 
good buddy spike, call contact w/large buildings
271.400 HAMMER 21 F/A-18 - Rolling in hot... confirm good hits 
request BDA... good hits multi vehicles destroyed
271.400 HAMMER 22 F/A-18 - We are winchester, request low level 
recon for 1 pass on the way out
271.400 MAGIC E-2C to HAWK confirm switches safe - see you on deck, 
proceed to the west
Had a HAWK flight ID as a single F-10??
284.650 KILLER 21 F/A-18 cleared the range request direct Navy 
Lemoore
319.300 CAM 11 F/A-18E/VFA-14 - working some radar training along 
with some (VERY) informal chatter and reciting lines from Dodge Ball 
and Top Gun
322.300 EXPERT 61 F/A-18EF/VFA-122 - flight of 4, requesting 246.800 
for mission freq. 2 v 2 ACM
263.000 HOBO 11 F/A-18C/VFA-94 - Check in
225.300 CRUD 21 F-16C/144th FW - ACM A/A 138.400



		
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From mystic at ikansas.com  Fri Jul  2 21:09:20 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Fri Jul  2 21:20:25 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	02 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <001101c4609a$763177c0$afcb2740@u5a3b0>

296.600 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
1742Z - RUFF-08 checking in again; can barely hear you CENTRE switching to
our 3rd radio; cleared direct TINKER

269.500 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
0001Z - DEATH-45 out of 410 for 450; push 273.45

273.450 (KZKC UNIDENTIFIED, UNLOCATED HIGH DISCRETE)
0001Z - DEATH-45 rqst maintain 420 vice climbing to 450 & rqst clearance
into the ATAC.  de DEATH-14, do you want the advisories or can we just stay
silent tonight?

343.700 (KZKC TOPEKA)
0057Z - DEATH-44, 2993 down to 5000 w/ climb out to 180 ____ rqst HUTCHINSON
(not a chance w/ squall line of T-Storms tonite)

133.925 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
1739Z - RUFF-08 rqst UNIFORM

128.750 (KZMP LINCOLN)
1745Z - HUSKER-15

260.200 (MULTIPLE AR TRACK SECONDARY)
1626Z - HUSKER-15 conducts AR OPNS w/ RUFF-08 (164388)

342.550 (KEND METRO)
2101Z - REACH-5581 (multiple calls w/ no joy .... can you say 4 DAY holiday
week-end?)

375.200 (KIAB METRO)
2106Z - REACH-5581, inquires about line of T-STORMS in vicinity of LITTLE
ROCK & wondering about location of them @ 2215Z

286.500 (190th ARW KSANG; FORBES FIELD: WYLIE CONTROL)
0354Z - WYLIE-42, XX minutes out; 25.4K on the fuel & will be full stop

321.000 (COMMAND POST)
0722Z - SHOCKER CONTROL de EVAC-022

381.300 (COMMAND POST)
0040Z - de CZAR-85, say ____ rwy

233.700 (TACAMO KOFF)
0239Z - ICEHOUSE de 88
0242Z - ICEHOUSE de 783, is it dry there? Ok, will give you a holler when
doing our full stop
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Fri Jul  2 21:53:21 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul  2 22:03:33 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 02 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <12f.45706dbd.2e176b91@aol.com>

A really ugly Friday, traffic wise.

275.80:  REDEYE-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out on IR 415.
291.675: PUJOE-7, (T-6A, Moody), land; then on to Hill.
319.00:  RAIDER-51, (F/A-18, VFA-125, Lemoore), with Denver Center, FL 290. 
Descending to 270 and switching 363.15.
121.00:  REACH 5581, (C-130, Little Rock), land; then on to Little Rock.
291.675: RAIDER-51, (F/A-18, VFA-125, Lemoore), land; then on to St. Louis 
Downtown Airport.
275.80:  REDEYE-21, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared to Cheyenne MOA.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From tag.ma.ultranet at rcn.com  Fri Jul  2 21:55:26 2004
From: tag.ma.ultranet at rcn.com (Tom Greenwood)
Date: Fri Jul  2 22:05:37 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Digital Decoding Question
In-Reply-To: <20040702123836.14878.qmail@web40410.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MABBKGIBGIAANNMINFLBMEGCEMAA.tag.ma.ultranet@rcn.com>

Bob

I have used an IBM T30 for recording audio through the line input.  But let
me caution that the external switching power supply is noisy as hell and
corrupts the audio badly.  Thus, I have had to do all of my recording on
battery power only.  I would tend to believe that this may be true for other
computers also but have no hard evidence to say that this is definitely
true.

Best of luck in your endeavor.

Best regards,

Tom Greenwood, N1JQB
Sudbury, MA USA


-----Original Message-----
From: milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 8:39 AM
To: Milcom (qth.net)
Subject: [MilCom] Digital Decoding Question


I am thinking of picking up a laptop for the shack to
run digital decoding software. This usually requires a
connection from the line out jack of the receiver to
the line in jack of the computer sound card. I know
laptops come with mic in and headphone out jacks, but
do they typically have line in jacks?

Thanks in advance for all help.

Bob
Bucks County, PA




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From AllanStern at aol.com  Fri Jul  2 22:34:02 2004
From: AllanStern at aol.com (AllanStern@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul  2 22:44:16 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/1/04
Message-ID: <77.2d52dd9e.2e17751a@aol.com>

Airshowfreak5@aol.com writes:

> BARRY 540 (SW-4/Merlin, Gov't Contract Aircraft) 120.75, lands Dobbins. 
>  (Would later depart, Cleared to Augusta (GA) (KAGS))

Berry Aviation's Berry 540.

AL STERN  Satellite Beach FL
From Amtrak35 at aol.com  Fri Jul  2 22:50:51 2004
From: Amtrak35 at aol.com (Amtrak35@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul  2 23:01:05 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KDOV log
Message-ID: <167.3169b925.2e17790b@aol.com>


 Wel I'm partially back in radio business after recent move to nearby 
Northeast Maryland area.Actually only about 15 miles West of my old house in 
congested Delaware.Out in the country now with a little more elbow room.
 
  Still haven't transplanted roof aerials yet but working on it. Hope to be 
back to normal reception soon.
 I'm not too far from the the Army's Aberdeen Proving Ground as somedays can 
hear occasional loud booms from ranges echo up the river.Locals here are 
unfazed by it as normal around here.
 The Sound of Freedom!!

 Off to beach this weekend so everyone have a great 4th of July weekend.

 a couple of evening logs

 ASCOT 2716 with McGuire dispatch 372.200 ppr to Langley AFB enroute there
at 0025z.req 88k fuel and engine stand.

 REACH 917Y arrive Dover for uploads.

 Mark
 Northeast,Maryland 

 
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Sat Jul  3 00:51:29 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul  3 01:01:49 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/2/04
Message-ID: <ae.5bdd08cd.2e179551@aol.com>

A slow one here. Very dissapointing for a Friday.

LOCKHEED 5549 (C-130J, Lockheed Test) 120.75>121.0>126.975, takeoff Dobbins. 
(Would return later. Would later depart around 1600z, Cleared Round Robin, 
Would  RTB due to radio probs 1630z)

COBB 50 flight of 3 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75, (Worked Pattern for about an 
hour then back in, 1515z)

COBB 30 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. (Would return 
around 1730z.)

PAT 101 (??) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Navy Brunswick (KNHZ).

PAT 010 (??) 120.75>121.0>126.975, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Navy Brunswick 
(KNHZ).

WOLF 02 (E-2, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0>125.7, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Birmingham (KBHM). (Would return around 1845z)

RAPTOR 26 (F-16, Edwards) 370.875>268.7>?282.35?>290.8>363.1, takeoff 
Dobbins. (Would return around 1900z) (About 282.35, Could've been a misquoted freq or 
possibly part of another ARTCC, I don't believe it's ATL ARTCC though. I 
dialed it in after he was passed off to it and got no actvity)

LOBO 01 (C-9, MCAS Cherry Point) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart 
around 1945z, Cleared to Marine Cherry Point (KNKT).)

GUARD 21735 (UH-1, Dobbins) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins. (Would return around 
0050z)

NAVY JS 099 (C-9, NAS Atlanta) 134.125, lands Dobbins.

Adam
Marietta,Ga
"VFA-203 Forever"
From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Sat Jul  3 12:29:00 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Sat Jul  3 13:03:04 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Charleston AFB Logs 2 July 04
Message-ID: <00b501c4611e$25aec3a0$8fda4fd8@Marks>


134.100 Charleston CP
------------------------
GIANT 8276


349.400 Charleston CP
------------------------
LIFTER 93
LIFTER 80


344.600 Meteo
----------------
LIFTER 10


327.600 AR-202
------------------
LIFTER 80 AR w/TEAM 47




Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
http://www.wunclub.com/files/uscg_air.html
https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Sat Jul  3 12:44:04 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Sat Jul  3 13:03:08 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF Logs 2 July 04
Message-ID: <00b601c4611e$2c90b250$8fda4fd8@Marks>


[00:27:30][FRQ  8912000][TO ][J03            ][TIS][J24            ][AL0] BER 25 SN 06 followed by JULIET 24 calling JULIET 03

2224Z    6234.5    ANDVT

2229Z    7527.0    ANDVT


ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: 504, 700, 712, 713, 718, 720, C50, CS1, CS3, CS5, CS6, CS9, D14, D23, F40, I00, I08, I14, J03, J11, J17, J23, J24, J36, J39, J42, LNT, M49, OPB, PAC, TSC, X60, X61

ALE addresses monitored on FBI/PANTHER Nets: PNR400, WF1





Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
http://www.wunclub.com/files/uscg_air.html
https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From mystic at ikansas.com  Sat Jul  3 13:56:59 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Sat Jul  3 14:07:23 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Travis then Hawaii
Message-ID: <000701c46127$27c112c0$91cb2740@u5a3b0>

At 031727Z Jul 04 on 321.0 had what sounded like REACH-0819 asking SHOCKER
CONTROL if they had notified TRAVIS AFB of 0819's take-off time so that the
medical equipment would be ready to be loaded when they arrived there and
that they were then going to HAWAII w/ 2 paxs as well.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Sat Jul  3 17:22:04 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul  3 17:32:27 2004
Subject: [MilCom] VFA-201 A/A
Message-ID: <1ca.25069d37.2e187d7c@aol.com>

Hey folks,  Wondering if anyone has an air to air freq for VFA-201? I'd like 
to snag some comms on them as it seems they are doing the flyover tonight at 
the game. 

Adam
Marietta,Ga
"VFA-203 Forever"
AIM: Airshowfreak5
From kf4lmt at comcast.net  Sat Jul  3 13:08:42 2004
From: kf4lmt at comcast.net (Roland R. McCormick III)
Date: Sat Jul  3 18:22:29 2004
Subject: [MilCom] VFA-201 A/A
References: <1ca.25069d37.2e187d7c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001901c46120$67f58d50$5aaa3344@rolandcea3qpbz>

> Hey folks,  Wondering if anyone has an air to air freq for VFA-201? I'd
like
> to snag some comms on them as it seems they are doing the flyover tonight
at
> the game.

    VFA-201 were working out of MCAS Beaufort on
    Friday.  The two flights I heard were using 319.500
    for their Tac freq.

Mac
Savannah, GA


From listen13579 at att.net  Sat Jul  3 20:02:30 2004
From: listen13579 at att.net (listen13579@att.net)
Date: Sat Jul  3 20:12:51 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Mussel 05 RE: [Scan-DC] Andrews AFB/NAS Patuxent River
	Logs, 2 Jul 04
In-Reply-To: <11b.33f56621.2e1721f1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAnFsMyihzQ0e98A7MFSZ/s8KAAAAQAAAAPo0dgRYRw0C8yY+fe1gK/wEAAAAA@att.net>

I've heard Mussel 05 using a tactical callsign and then switching back
to 05 once before. Has anyone heard any other Mussels using tactical
callsigns before?

-----Original Message-----
From: scan-dc-bounces@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:scan-dc-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rapbep@aol.com
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 4:39 PM
To: milcom@mailman.qth.net; scan-dc@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Scan-DC] Andrews AFB/NAS Patuxent River Logs, 2 Jul 04


Fairly slow day today.

1. ANDREWS AFB: 
[Tower (118.4/349.0); CP (141.55;378.1); PTD (122.85; 372.2): Potomac 
TRACON/Reagan National APP/DEP(119.3;335.5;124.2;118.95;119.85;125.65)] 

HOME BASED:

Venus 82 (VC-9 # 76-1682, 99th AS)- depart.
Navy AX 312 (C-130T, VR-53)- depart
Bully flight (2 X F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG)- on sqdn freq (127.275)
w/laser 
guided bomb (LGB) training.
Mussel 01, 02, 04, 06 (UH-1s, 1st Helo Sqdn)- local area operations.
Ravage flight (2 X F-16s, 121st DC ANG)- on sqdn freq (139.35). Also
w/Pax 
River (305.2 & 270.8) for entry into restricted areas.
Mussel 07 (UH-1, 1st Helo Sqdn)- w/helo using callsign Silver Dollar
(292.2). 
Establishing a GPS time hack to coordinate VIP pick up. Later Silver
Dollar 
uses callsign Mussel 05.

VISITORS :

Reach 907 (id as heavy)- depart.
Reach 343T- land. Called himself Rhody 343 one time so must be a RI ANG
C-130 
from Quonset Point.
Mingo 01 (id as C-20H # 92-0375, 76th AS Ramstein)- land w/DV-3 plus 5.
Reach 934- land Reach 345T- depart. Sounds like same guy who came in
earlier as R343T. Blackjack 016 (TH-57C # 162016, HX-21 Patuxent River)-
approaches. PAT 100 (helo)- land JOSA 035- land

2. PATUXENT RIVER NAS:
[NTPS-Test Pilot School; NSATS (VX-23)-Strike Aircraft Test Squadron;
NFATS 
(VX-20)-Force Aircraft Test Squadron-;NRWATS (HX-21)-Rotary Wing
Aircraft Test 
Squadron- 119.275; 120.05; 123.7; 127.95; 256.5; 270.8; 281.8; 354.8]

Tester 05 (T-38, NTPS)- w/Bay Watch (270.8) reporting completion of Mach
1.1 
speed run at 33,000 ft.

3. MISCELLANEOUS:

November 1 (Gulfstream FAA HQs)- depart Reagan National.
Harass 11 & 12 (F-15s Langley AFB)- w/Huntress (228.9) on DC CAP duty.
Tanker 57 (CAP tanker) w/Huntress (228.9) & w/Harass 11 (320.6).

RON
MIDDLE ATLANTIC MILCOM
MARYLAND, USA
PRO-2045 W/D-130J DISCONE
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From jmhayes at speakeasy.net  Sat Jul  3 20:55:17 2004
From: jmhayes at speakeasy.net (Jordan Hayes)
Date: Sat Jul  3 21:05:37 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Re: Travis then Hawaii
References: <000701c46127$27c112c0$91cb2740@u5a3b0>
Message-ID: <121701c46161$933e1d60$1348a8c0@PAD>

> At 031727Z Jul 04 on 321.0 had what sounded like REACH-0819
> asking SHOCKER CONTROL if they had notified TRAVIS AFB of
> 0819's take-off time ...

Around 2115Z I heard REACH-0809D -- DELTA? -- with ZOA/134.15 headed to
BAART (thus the 'B' track to Hickam).

I've never heard REACH 'DELTA' flights before; anyone?

From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Sat Jul  3 21:44:54 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul  3 21:55:22 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 03 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <127.44d72b8e.2e18bb16@aol.com>

Majorly slow one today.

275.80:  REDEYE-1, flight of 4, (F-16,Buckley), cleared out on VR-413.
289.40:  REDEYE-1 flight, trying to raise Scenic Control for a fly-by at AF 
Academy cemetery. Scenic Control appears to be mobile today and having lots of 
problems trying to guide REDEYEs in to the right funeral. Apparently about 3 
different ones in progress. Finally got it done.
298.40:  SUMMIT-24, (C-130H, Peterson), land Colorado Springs.
372.20:  FAME-22, (C-21A, Keesler), takeoff Colorado Springs. Pass ETA to AAR 
Aviation in Oklahoma City.
372.20:  JOSA-212, (C-21A), calling Peterson Dispatch.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From mystic at ikansas.com  Sat Jul  3 23:04:30 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Sat Jul  3 23:18:26 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	03 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <002001c46174$1be660c0$38cb2740@u5a3b0>

360.850 (KZKC UNIDENTIFIED, NORTHEASTERN KANSAS HIGH DISCRETE)
1919Z - (sounded like) VAMPIRE-15

134.225 (KZMP MARYSVILLE)
0100Z - SAM-7621; 3217878

321.000 (COMMAND POST)
1727Z  - (sounded like) REACH-0819 asking SHOCKER CONTROL if they had
notified TRAVIS AFB of 0819's take-off time so that the medical equipment
would be ready to be loaded when they arrived there and
that they were then going to HAWAII w/ 2 paxs as well.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Sun Jul  4 01:14:03 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Sun Jul  4 01:24:28 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/3/04
Message-ID: <104.4a87649b.2e18ec1b@aol.com>

As I would figure, Really slow today. Hope everyone has a good 4th!

HUNTER 19 flight of 2 (F/A-18, NAS JRB Fort Worth) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

HUNTER 51 flight of 3 (F/A-18, NAS JRB Fort Worth) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

GUARD 21735 (UH-1, Dobbins) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins. (Return around 2255z)

HUNTER 11 flight of 5 (F/A-18, NAS JRB Fort Worth) 370.875>239.975 (A/A 
355.1), takeoff Dobbins. (Would return around 2305z) (Performed flyover for Braves 
v. Red Sox game.)

Adam
Marietta,Ga
From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Sun Jul  4 01:52:49 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Sun Jul  4 02:03:15 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Seattle Milcom JULY 3
Message-ID: <40E79B31.3000507@verizon.net>

285.65 NAS Whidbey App. QE 289 inbound

270.30 Seattle Center. COOL 21 flight of four off Whidbey for Great 
Falls. A/A 299.5

120.60 Boeing Field Tower. BOEING 012 B-17 landed

Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA

From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Sun Jul  4 10:14:48 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Sun Jul  4 11:04:27 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Charleston AFB Logs 3 July 04
Message-ID: <008401c461d1$458771a0$e2d94fd8@Marks>

349.400 Charleston CP
------------------------
REACH 809D
REACH 7045 inbound 1526z


157.050 USCG
------------------
CG 6594 (HH-65B)
CG 6595 (HH-65B)


Most interesting thing I heard all day was Harbor Patrol discussing 
a 13 foot alligator they found in the river.



Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
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https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Sun Jul  4 11:04:57 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Sun Jul  4 11:30:47 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF Logs 3 July 04
Message-ID: <00d101c461da$67d40710$e2d94fd8@Marks>

[00:55:51][FRQ  5732000][TO ][OPB            ][TIS][X61            ][AL0] BER 25 SN 10 followed by PANTHER wkg 61A

[00:56:32][FRQ  5732000][TO ][PAC            ][TIS][J39            ][AL0] BER 26 SN 11 followed by JULIET 39 with 4 POV requesting guard from CAMSPAC

1142Z    10993.6    ANDVT

1211Z    6246.6    SHARK 55 passing position 28-18N 084-08W to GROUP

1231Z    11494.0    60A position report to PANTHER. Bearing 286, 60 miles from R17

[13:16:11][FRQ 11494000][TO ][J36            ][TIS][LNT            ][AL0] BER 30 SN 14 followed by JULIET 36 position report to CAMSLANT. 36-47N 075-59W

1341Z    8992.0    REACH 675 p/p via Andrews HF-GCS to Dover AFB CP and Meteo. Inbound with 1545z ETA, 8 pallets, 12 PAX

1344Z    13907.0    60A ops normal report to PANTHER

[16:52:26][FRQ 11494000][TO ][D41            ][TIS][CS6            ][AL0] BER 29 SN 12 followed by clear voice comms

2145Z    11232.0    CANFORCE 4330 radio check with TRENTON MILITARY


ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: 502, 720, A50, C50, CS1, CS2, CS3, CS4, CS5, CS6, CS9, D14, D41, F29, FL1, I00, I55, J01, J03, J13, J17, J23, J24, J25, J36, J39, JOE, LNT, OPB, PAC, PR1, T72, T91, TSC, TST, X60, X61

ALE addresses monitored on FBI/PANTHER Nets: NF1, NY1, PNR400, QT1, RH1, SL1, WF1





Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
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https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From kc2gog at optonline.net  Sun Jul  4 20:00:11 2004
From: kc2gog at optonline.net (kc2gog@optonline.net)
Date: Sun Jul  4 20:11:09 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 7/4 NY CAP
Message-ID: <6fb77c6fc7dc.6fc7dc6fb77c@optonline.net>

Greetings all,

this weekends festivities in the NYC area will have  CAP overhead, it seems.

players involved thus far

TANKER 41
FIGHTER 22
FIGHTER 21



on the usual NYCAP freqs

keep an ear out on marine channel 16/22A/23A for other comms if your in the area


happy fourth everyone,  now its off to the beach for the fireworks, scanner in hand!!

 
 


From kc8mzm at bellsouth.net  Sun Jul  4 20:22:37 2004
From: kc8mzm at bellsouth.net (Mike Riffle)
Date: Sun Jul  4 20:33:07 2004
Subject: [MilCom] West Georgia logs 3-4 Jul 04
Message-ID: <40E89F4D.4010106@bellsouth.net>

Happy 4th, enjoy the fireworks...

03 JULY
-------

[255.4 FSS]
  2253z WRAP 01 (T-6) departed Birmingham, eta Moody 2345z

04 JULY
-------

[119.05 LAWSON AAF TOWER]
  ARMY 16373 (UH-1 x2) inbound - 242.4 a/a
  ARMY 23575 (UH-60 x2) inbound

[249.5 FT BENNING SKYWATCH]
  ARMY 21638 (UH-1) transiting the range

[340.2 NAS TOWER COMMON]
  1908z BLUE ANGEL 4 (F/A-18) asking if the NAS Meridian tower is open
  2038z BLUE ANGEL 9 (C-130) rqst straight in to rwy 19 at NAS Pensacola

[342.5 SHAW METRO]
  2231z REACH 313 rqst current wx at Charleston AFB

[ARTCC]
  HOG 71-74    (A-10)   257.9>319.1>354.05 - 142.525 a/a
  HUNTER 11-13 (F/A-18) 284.7>306.2>350.325 - 355.1 a/a
  BLUE ANGEL 2 (F/A-18) 319.1>307.15
  BLUE ANGEL 3 (F/A-18) 319.1>307.15>323.05
  BLUE ANGEL 5 (F/A-18) 319.1
  BLUE ANGEL 6 (F/A-18) 319.1
  BLUE ANGEL 7 (F/A-18) 350.325>307.15

thought I'd throw in a couple of interesting amateur radio QSO's...

[145.8 ISS DOWNLINK]
  1305z NA1SS (USA ISS callsign) Astronaut Mike Fincke operating voice
        http://www.geocities.com/kc8mzm/ISS.mp3 (104 secs - 205KB)

[146.52 2M CALL)
  1850z KI4DSI Aeronautical Mobile, using 300mW in a King Air at 15,000ft
        http://www.geocities.com/kc8mzm/aeromobl.mp3 (116 secs - 229 KB)

-- 
Mike Riffle
Cataula, GA
milcom - http://www.qsl.net/kc8mzm/
photos - http://www.pbase.com/mriffle/aviation/



From w3ins at rcn.com  Sun Jul  4 20:55:34 2004
From: w3ins at rcn.com (W3WOR)
Date: Sun Jul  4 21:05:45 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 138.000q
Message-ID: <006801c4622a$c81feb20$6400a8c0@kevin>

138.000 active with two pilots. Talking about seeing 'muzzle flashes', perhaps they are fireworkss. Sound very close to my location in Eastern Pa. TIME> 20:58 local.


THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED FROM THE W3WOR 
AMATEUR RADIO STATION. 
PLEASE VISIT THE OFFICIAL W3WOR WEBSITE AT
WWW.ANGELFIRE.COM/PA5/KB3FGL2
GRID: FN20hp  ACTIVE ON APRS HOME AND MOBILE
73
From mystic at ikansas.com  Sun Jul  4 20:47:11 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Sun Jul  4 23:24:16 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	04 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <000701c4623e$0efef1e0$d6cb2740@u5a3b0>

133.925 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
1922Z - 2712 REACH-9165

127.125 (KZKC UNIDENTIFIED NORTHEASTERN KANSAS HIGH DISCRETE)
1922Z - REACH-9165 checkin' in

255.400 (FLIGHT SERVICE)
2251Z - VANDY-90 copies all

227.400 (KOFF METRO)
0250Z -  REACH-4190 (840190) rqsting forecast for KWRI & DOVER @ 0500Z

321.000 (COMMAND POST)
0246Z - REACH-4190 (840190) pp via RAYMOND-21 (321.0) to McGUIRE CMD POST
(650-3936) for 3 hour out call.  ALPHA-2 for multiple write-ups & will
REQUIRE engine on
spot.  ETA 0510Z; 3 paxs, 8 AMC & _____ cargo.

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Published Sunday, July 4, 2004
National Guard fly-overs planned
The Capital-Journal
The Kansas Army National Guard and Kansas Air National Guard will perform
fly-overs across the state today.
A Black Hawk will fly over the Independence Day celebration in Marysville.

The 190th Air Refueling Wing, Kansas Air National Guard, will fly a KC-135
tanker over events in Wamego at 6 p.m., Liberal at 7 p.m., Council Grove at
8 p.m., Hays at 9 p.m. and Russell at 9:15 p.m.

http://www.cjonline.com/stories/070404/kan_flyover.shtml
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CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Mon Jul  5 00:13:47 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Mon Jul  5 00:24:22 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/4/04
Message-ID: <1c9.1b655991.2e1a2f7b@aol.com>

Hope everyone had a great time today. Here's what I got before leaving out to 
be with the relatives.

GUARD 21735 (UH-1, Dobbins) 120.75>126.975, takeoff Dobbins. (Would return 
around 1710z.) (Found out this was the USN Leap Frogs jump aircraft.)

HUNTER 11 flight of 4 (F/A-18, NAS JRB Fort Worth) 370.875>239.275 (A/A 
355.1), takeoff Dobbins. (Doing flyover once again. And then, I guess, headed back 
to Fort Worth.)

HUNTER 13 (F/A-18, NAS JRB Fort Worth) 370.875, lands Dobbins. (I'm guessing 
mechanical probs brought him back, so there are two VFA-201 aircraft left on 
ramp.)

Adam
Marietta,Ga
From AllanStern at aol.com  Mon Jul  5 01:05:07 2004
From: AllanStern at aol.com (AllanStern@aol.com)
Date: Mon Jul  5 01:15:42 2004
Subject: [MilCom] VFA-201 A/A
Message-ID: <d9.e82ed6e.2e1a3b83@aol.com>

Airshowfreak5@aol.com writes:

> Hey folks,  Wondering if anyone has an air to air freq for VFA-201? I'd 
like 
>  to snag some comms on them as it seems they are doing the flyover tonight 
at 
>  the game.

A little late for the game, but in the future try 319.5, as Mac suggested, or 
299.5.

AL STERN  Satellite Beach FL
From blaine.brooks at comcast.net  Mon Jul  5 12:48:39 2004
From: blaine.brooks at comcast.net (Blaine Brooks)
Date: Mon Jul  5 12:59:27 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Re: VFA-201 A/A 
References: <20040705080058.B542B859D8A@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <001e01c462af$eca965e0$6401a8c0@brooks>


> A little late for the game, but in the future try 319.5, 
> as Mac suggested, or 299.5.

To add to Al's frequencies and for future reference,
they can also use the following around DFW.....320.5, 344.2 , 
and 344.25.

Blaine Brooks
Flower Mound, Tx.
From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Mon Jul  5 19:26:40 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Mon Jul  5 19:39:16 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF Logs 4 July 04
Message-ID: <00bc01c462e7$c96a4990$09d84fd8@Marks>

0057Z    13927.0    REACH 113 morale p/p via AFA1RE Maine

0132Z    11232.0    TRENTON MILITARY passing 0130z WX at BIKF (Keflavik) to unid aircraft

1315Z    9145.0    ANDVT

2213Z    11175.0    REACH 711Y p/p via Andrews HF-GCS to Battle Staff at Hurlburt Field Base Ops. Reports they will RON at Pope AFB and not be home tonight


ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: 504, A47, C50, CS1, CS2, CS3, CS6, CS9, D14, D41, D48, F33, FL1, I57, J01, J03, J17, J24, J25, J36, LNT, M46, OPB, PAC, PR1, TSC, TST, X60, X61





Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

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https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Mon Jul  5 20:36:40 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Mon Jul  5 20:49:20 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF Logs 5 July 04
Message-ID: <010701c462f1$90287f30$09d84fd8@Marks>

[02:22:18][FRQ  7527000][TO ][J24            ][TIS][OPB            ][AL0] BER 27 SN 11 followed by 24C position report to PANTHER. Bearing 340, 75.9 miles from W6

[22:21:20][FRQ  7527000][TO ][OPB            ][TIS][J24            ][AL0] BER 14 SN 00 followed by 24C position report to PANTHER. Bearing 220, 29.3 miles from W6

[22:29:16][FRQ 11494000][TO ][OPB            ][TIS][X60            ][AL0] BER 23 SN 06 followed by 60A bearing 190, 66 miles from V4 with 5 POV and 4+20 fuel requesting guard from PANTHER

[22:45:52][FRQ 11494000][TO ][OPB            ][TIS][X60            ][AL0] BER 30 SN 10 followed by 60A wkg SERVICE CENTER who tells them to standby, PANTHER is trying to connect with another aircraft. 60A back to scan

[22:48:11][FRQ 11494000][TO ][OPB            ][TIS][X60            ][AL0] BER 24 SN 07 followed by 60A position report to PANTHER. Bearing 193, 25 miles from V4

[23:03:11][FRQ 11494000][TO ][OPB            ][TIS][X60            ][AL0] BER 29 SN 11 followed by 60A position report. Bearing 008, 72 miles from G6

[23:16:07][FRQ 11494000][TO ][OPB            ][TWS][X60            ][AL0] BER 29 SN 11 followed by 60A position report. Bearing 018, 61 miles from G6

[23:30:46][FRQ 11494000][TO ][OPB            ][TWS][X60            ][AL0] BER 24 SN 11 followed by 60A position report. Bearing 026, 41 miles from G6

2339Z    7527.0    24C ops normal report to PANTHER. Bearing 317, 84.8 miles from W6

[23:45:39][FRQ  7527000][TO ][OPB            ][TIS][J24            ][AL0] BER 22 SN 07 followed by 24C wkg PANTHER to request to know # of hours awarded for last flight. PANTHER reports they were awarded 3.6 hours for last flight. 24C reports they are en route to check out some buildings and they might exceed 6.0 hours if they land and find something. PANTHER suggests they RTB. 24C position bearing 333, 77.6 miles from W6

[23:50:46][FRQ 11494000][TO ][OPB            ][TWS][X60            ][AL0] BER 27 SN 08 followed by 60A wkg SERVICE CENTER then PANTHER to report they are landing at G6 and securing guard

2359Z    7527.0    24C in position bearing 159, 76.9 miles from W6 reports to PANTHER they are on deck and disembarking DEA/DEU agents at the site mentioned earlier


ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: A97, C50, CS1, CS3, CS5, CS6, CS9, D14, D41, I00, I14, I57, J18, J24, J37, OPB, T72, X60





Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

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https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From wb9omc at nlci.com  Mon Jul  5 20:40:37 2004
From: wb9omc at nlci.com (Duane Mantick)
Date: Mon Jul  5 20:49:49 2004
Subject: [MilCom] La Porte, IN flyover 7/4/04
In-Reply-To: <104.4a87649b.2e18ec1b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c462f1$db18ea20$986040ce@nlci.com>


(sent originally to ScanIndiana and duped here)

Speaking of La Porte County, were any of the folks on this
list who are from the area at the Parade Sunday?

The 122nd FW from Fort Wayne gave the most insipid excuse
for a flyover I have ever seen, anywhere, anytime.  They
did not even fly the length of Lincolnway as they have in 
past years but made a single pass NE to SW somewhere
between 30 or 45 degrees off the length of Lincolnway.
The two, and ONLY two F16's then turned off to the south
and that was it.

Freq. heard was 138.4 (my listing sez "IN ANG - Forth Wayne
Ops") with the call "four miles out".  After they left, had
some hits on 3 or 4 ANG freqs, and also some weak hits on
343.5 which is an aerial refueling freq.  I cannot be certain
that these were real or were IMD from the parade route, which
was a decidedly rich radio environment what with cops, fire,
EMT, military etc. (My video shows that the underwing stores
on both planes were clean, no ext. tanks, so depending on
their itinerary they might have gone up and tanked....I
can tell you that they certainly "tanked" according to
crowd reaction.......   :-)   )

Wondered if anyone else caught them between Ft. Wayne and
La Porte, over La Porte, or on the way back to the Fort???
They were over La Porte at approx. 1PM +/- 10 minutes or
so.

I would have thought that with a U.S. Senator from Indiana
(Evan Bayh) present at the event, a better flyover would
have been more in order.  I'm inclined to email the senator
and express that opinion.

I wonder if our Senior Senator, Mr. Lugar, had been there
if the flyover would have been quite so rotten?  Given
Sen. Lugar's having served on military appropriations
committees, etc., they MIGHT have paid a bit more attention
to some smart flying......

Should they change the name from 122nd Fighter Wing to
"122 Flying Weenies"?  :-)

Duane
WB9OMC

p.s.  GO NAVY!  The last two times we have had local La Porte
Naval pilots allowed to do this, we got one F14 Tomcat with
multiple passes at, er, "high rates of speed" and one big-time
high-performance afterburner climb that shook the town. Of 
course, there were some weenie-asses who wrote the newspaper
and bitched that it scared their kids or dogs, but THAT was
a great one.  Another local fellow got to fly his A-6
Intruder over and did it low and loud and KICKED BUTT.
Even when we have had CARGO planes in other years they did
better.....C-130's out of Milwaukee in the last couple years
were hot and low over town....we had KC135's from Grissom
more than once, and they could at least FIND the main drag;
(which the gents from Fort Wayne seem to be having trouble with)
and picture a C-5 Galaxy, flaps down, gear down pretending
to be a big, aluminum cloud flying over your main street at
a low altitude.  Yep, we had 'em.
From mystic at ikansas.com  Mon Jul  5 22:42:23 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Mon Jul  5 22:54:30 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	05 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <001601c46303$05701620$b9cb2740@u5a3b0>

321.000 (COMMAND POST)
0308Z - SHOCKER CONTROL de BLUE-12, show us abn @ 0259Z
0556Z - RAYMOND-21 de PETRO-41 (calz X 2 then gone)

323.200 (CENTRE VHF SIMULCAST on UHF)
0159Z - WYLIE-85
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CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W
From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Mon Jul  5 22:46:23 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Mon Jul  5 22:57:09 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 05 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <1d5.255c9979.2e1b6c7f@aol.com>

A rather slow start to the week.

275.80:  HOTCAR-11, (T-38C, Moody), cleared to Fort Smith.
275.80:  BOBCAT-54, (T-45C, VT-9, Meridian), cleared to 180/11 off the Hays 
VORTAC.
291.675: KNIGHT-01, (F/A-18F, VFA-154, Lemoore), land; then on to Lemoore.
228.45:  RAKE-19, (T-1A, Laughlin), request WX for Minneapolis at 0000z and 
any significant convective activity between Denver and there. 

Sandy
Denver, CO
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Tue Jul  6 00:39:05 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Tue Jul  6 00:49:51 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ABR Logs 7/5/04
Message-ID: <d5.10bd40e1.2e1b86e9@aol.com>

Looks like the flying decided to take another day off.

NAVY JS 266 (C-9, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. (Would return 
around 1810z, Would later depart and head up to 10k to check pressurization, 
Return later.)

Adam
Marietta,Ga
From prifly_2 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  6 11:02:15 2004
From: prifly_2 at yahoo.com (David E. Norton)
Date: Tue Jul  6 11:13:18 2004
Subject: [MilCom] RAPTOR flight test
Message-ID: <20040706150215.16770.qmail@web13604.mail.yahoo.com>

Just turned on the radio.

RAPTOR w' chase; flight test. 255.725

=====
Dave
Lake Logan Martin, AL
http://www.geocities.com/prifly_2/photopage.html


		
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From LewisRand at aol.com  Tue Jul  6 11:14:20 2004
From: LewisRand at aol.com (LewisRand@aol.com)
Date: Tue Jul  6 11:25:19 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Capes 33 heavy
Message-ID: <1eb.2485d2dc.2e1c1bcc@aol.com>

My first posting in along time 126.900 Wright-Patterson tower Capes 33 heavy 
doing t&g's at KFFO runway 23R.

The Rights and Freedoms We enjoy in this country were not FREE. They were and 
are NOW being Bought and Guaranteed to US by the BLOOD, SWEAT, and LABORS of 
our fighting MEN and WOMEN.
From jehaverlah at pdq.net  Tue Jul  6 13:30:27 2004
From: jehaverlah at pdq.net (Jeff Haverlah)
Date: Tue Jul  6 13:42:50 2004
Subject: [MilCom] MIL: 6697.0 - RAIL MAN
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20040706122852.00a2e330@pop.pdq.net>

1729z  06 Jul 04

      6697.0 was active at 1725z with RAIL MAN (good levels here) bcsting a 
28-character EAM (DRLKY7) and simulcasting same on 8992.0 (weak/readable), 
11244.0 (fair) and 13155.0 (weak/fair).  H+25/h+55 activity.

Jeff Haverlah

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Jeff Haverlah               Coastal Texas           jehaverlah@pdq.net
      Drake R7 (Gilfer Mod)  Drake R8B               Ten-Tec RX320/GNRX320
      Panasonic RFB-65       JPS NIR-12/ANC-4        "wires" and loops
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

From baycomm at earthlink.net  Tue Jul  6 17:23:11 2004
From: baycomm at earthlink.net (Greg Brazil)
Date: Tue Jul  6 17:33:53 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 139.9 MHz
Message-ID: <40EB183F.4080101@earthlink.net>

Just heard some local fishermen talking on 139.9 FM.  "I'm so fxxxxxx 
mad if I had a gun I could shoot him."
Greg (SF Bay Area)

From paratrooper202 at earthlink.net  Tue Jul  6 18:11:49 2004
From: paratrooper202 at earthlink.net (Christopher  Corley)
Date: Tue Jul  6 18:22:44 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Military HF logs July 6,2004
Message-ID: <002e01c463a6$3db660e0$75539a04@computer>

18003 KHz USB/ALE 1900z  Reach A612 (KC10) calls Mainsail, Mainsail Offutt
Air Force Base replies
Reach A612 wants a phone patch to Charleston Command post eta 2030 have 5
pallets to off load and 11 crew maintenance is Alpha1 request Customs and
AGG and Immigration. Will call for weather report when closer p/p
terminated.
Ale address monitor on this Frequency
OFF - USAF Offutt AFB, NE
460035- USAF- KC10
MCC - USAF McClellan /West Coast, CA Scope Command
JNR- USAF Salinas, Pr Scope Command
ADW- USAF HF -GCS control stn, Andrews AFB, MD
RIC-  Civil Air Patrol National Technology CTr, Richmond, VA
HAW- USAF Ascension Island Scope Command
IKF- USAF Keflavik, Iceland (CCC)

11494 KHz 2100z USB/ALE (scan 4) US AF Airborne Command Post and Immigration
and Customs Cothen Network- OPB told 41 to stand bye and then went (Heavily
encrypted)
  Ale addresses monitor
D41, D14- ?
CS3, CS6, CS9- Customs
MV5-Customs
700, T54 - ?
OPB-Service Center Nassau Bahamas
J17- USCG Aircraft type unknown ?
J09- US Customs
TRC- US Customs
J42, J03- ?
other frequency for US Customs are
7527, 8912, 10242, 11494, 13907, 15867, 18594, 20890, 23214, 25350 all are
KHz     (CCC)

If some of the ALE addresses are not right please send
correction and help on the unid would be nice.

Chris Corley
West Central GA

From mystic at ikansas.com  Tue Jul  6 20:32:06 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Tue Jul  6 20:54:41 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	06 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <003d01c463bb$73ffe1c0$a7cb2740@u5a3b0>

316.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE PRIMARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
1800Z - COBRA-47
1924Z - THUNDER-47
2057Z - SKULL-25
2118Z - DEATH-22

296.600 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
2155Z - de KC CENTRE, DUKE-23 is cleared direct VANCE
2159Z - DUKE-13 rqst UNIFORM

285.400 (KZKC EMPORIA)
1914Z - JAYHAWK-66
1914Z - CZAR-81
2200Z - DUKE-13
2200Z - DEATH-22
2201Z - DUKE-14
2210Z - SKULL-25

327.000 (KZKC BUTLER)
2201Z - DEATH-22 descent to 10000

281.450 (KZKC TULSA)
2211Z - SKULL-25

127.125 (KZKC NORTHEASTERN KANSAS HIGH DISCRETE)
1903Z - HAPPY-62, direct KANSAS CITY
1905Z - STOCK(sounded like)-57, direct OFFUTT

128.750 KZMP LINCOLN)
1827Z - TOPCAT-92

343.500 (AR-016)
1930Z - CZAR-81 FLIGHT (CZAR-81 & DEATH-22) co-ordinating w/ RAID-21 FLIGHT
(flight of 2) prior to commencement of AR OPNS.
1935Z - DEATH-22 de CZAR-81, go tactical

388.850 (509th BOMB WING; BARKSDALE AFB; A-2-A)
1932Z - DEATH-22 de CZAR-81, where are you?

3001.00 (509th BOMB WING; BARKSDALE AFB; A-2-A)
1935Z - my laptop had June 6 loaded.......

326.200 (KEND APP)
22??Z - GUNSMOKE de ...........
2256Z - BISON-35
2300Z - BISON-31

375.200 (KIAB METRO)
2203Z - SKULL-25 calz X 2 (no response noted)

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CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W
From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Tue Jul  6 21:22:22 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Tue Jul  6 21:33:24 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 06 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <143.2d4115fe.2e1caa4e@aol.com>

Still kinda dull around here.

372.20:  DILLON-1, (C-21A, CO-ANG), takeoff Colorado Springs.
372.20:  DILLON-2, (C-21A, CO-ANG), takeoff Colorado Springs.
372.20:  SMOKY-66, (C-21A, Peterson), takeoff Colorado Springs.
121.00:  REACH 236T, (C-5), land.
349.20:  SENTRY-41, (E-3, Tinker), request WX Hill 2030Z.
372.20:  JOSA-433, (C-21A), takeoff Colorado Springs.
372.20:  JOSA-831, (C-21A, Peterson), land Colorado Springs.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From jehaverlah at pdq.net  Tue Jul  6 22:20:25 2004
From: jehaverlah at pdq.net (Jeff Haverlah)
Date: Tue Jul  6 22:23:20 2004
Subject: [MilCom] MIL:  11244.0 - CANDY MAN
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20040706211737.00a2e550@pop.pdq.net>

0218z  07 Jul 04

      11244.0 was active at 0207z with CANDY MAN (good levels but audio 
slightly buried by S9+ carrier from his xmtr) bcsting three 28-character 
EAMs (unk; DRXTYC; DRVLGC), simulcasting same on 6697.0 (strong), 8992.0 
(good) and 13155.0 (good).

Jeff Haverlah

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Jeff Haverlah               Coastal Texas           jehaverlah@pdq.net
      Drake R7 (Gilfer Mod)  Drake R8B               Ten-Tec RX320/GNRX320
      Panasonic RFB-65       JPS NIR-12/ANC-4        "wires" and loops
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

From russelles at connect.ab.ca  Tue Jul  6 22:45:45 2004
From: russelles at connect.ab.ca (russelles)
Date: Tue Jul  6 22:52:19 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Astra 01 flight  Indian Air Force in North America
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20040706203638.009e66d0@pop3.connect.ab.ca>

Astra 01  IL-78 a/a refueller land with Jaguars at 16:30 Z Edmonton. Indian 
Air Force in North America for inter-operability operations.

I am starting to think the Astra Call-sign is reserved for block operations 
in the Northwest portion of North America.

The IL-78 is in NATO grey and sort of looks like a funny dressed up C-141.

Cheers:
Russell
Alberta


  
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From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Tue Jul  6 23:10:59 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Tue Jul  6 23:12:47 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/6/04
Message-ID: <1a3.2672fa54.2e1cc3c3@aol.com>

Huge improvement compared to the past few days.

FAME 02 (C-21, Keesler) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart around 
2015z, Cleared to Biloxi (Keesler) (KBIX).)

LOCKHEED 5550 (C-130J, Lockheed Test) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. (Return 
later.)

?EIGHT? 01-02 (F-15) 370.875>268.7>284.7>360.75, takeoff Dobbins. (This one 
has me stupped, Sounded like EIGHT/ATE. If anyone happen to hear this, Let me 
know,.Seem like he was headed down south, Eglin maybe.)

WOLF 01 (E-2, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0>133.1 takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Chattanooga. (Return Later.)

RAPTOR 26 (F/A-22, Tyndall, # 02-4028 w/ F-16, Edwards, # 817, Possible  # 
81-0817) 370.875, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart around 1900z, Would return 
around 2010z) (Not sure if first test flight Raptor is the same as the second 
flight which is where I caught serials.) (Note: Scramble shows  # 81-0817 as 
grey, was actually red & white test scheme, so not sure if that's the same 
one.)

NAVY JS 266 (C-9, NAS Atlanta) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

NAVY 7B 504 (UC-12, NAS Atlanta) 134.125,lands Dobbins.

NAVY JS 140 (C-9, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins.

GATOR 31 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7>353.8, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared 
to Chattanooga (KCHA). (Would return around 0020z)

GATOR 737 (C-12?) 120.75>121.0>119.8, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Tyndall 
(KPAM). (Anyone know if this is a contract aircraft or a mil type?)

LOCKHEED 5501 (WC-130J, Keesler, # 99-5309) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

COBB 05,27,84 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75,134.125, (Working Pattern for about 
3hrs then in for the night, 0300z)

Adam
Marietta,Ga

From AllanStern at aol.com  Wed Jul  7 00:30:03 2004
From: AllanStern at aol.com (AllanStern@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul  7 00:31:52 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Patrick AFB Area Log - Tuesday 6 July 2004
Message-ID: <5a.2d94c1ef.2e1cd64b@aol.com>

                    Tuesday 6 July 2004

AIR TRANSPORT 300: DC-8, Little Rock, USAF Contractor.
1:28pm: En route from Patrick to Eastern Test Range sites at Antigua and 
Ascension.
[135.075]

BOLIVIAN AIR FORCE 65: C-130
12:15pm: Lands Patrick AFB.
3:40pm: Departs to Opa Locka.
[133.75, 132.65, 132.25]

JOLLY 11: HH-60G, Patrick AFB 920RQW 301RQS
3:00pm: Local airwork.
[133.75, 269.375]

COIL 01: F-15, FL-ANG 125FW 159FS, Jacksonville IAP
3:18pm: Area transition, northward.
[319.0, 346.25, 273.55]

N21NG: LJ-35A, Northrop-Grumman JSTARS Fac, Melbourne IAP.
3:32pm: Inbound Melbourne IAP.
[124.8, 132.65, 118.2]

FANG 01: F-15, FL-ANG 125FW 159FS, Jacksonville IAP
9:59pm: "Fight's on, fight's on."  RTB.
[293.6, 267.5]

JOLLY 21: HH-60G, flight of two.
11:47pm: Practice approach at Melbourne IAP, lands Patrick.
[118.2, 383.0]

AL STERN  Satellite Beach FL  (28-11N  80-36W) monitoring
 Patrick AFB (KCOF)       NASA-KSC Shuttle Landing Fac (KX68)
 Avon Park Bombing Range (KAGR)   Cape Canaveral AFS (KXMR)
 JSTARS E-8 Acft Integration Facility, Melbourne IAP (KMLB)
 Worldwide Military HF Communications
 Life Member: Missile, Space and Range Pioneers.
 http://hometown.aol.com/allanstern/myhomepage/index.html (My Freqs)
 http://hometown.aol.com/scanaddict/index.html (My Equipment)
From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Wed Jul  7 02:31:46 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Wed Jul  7 02:33:38 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Seattle Milcom JULY 6
Message-ID: <40EB98D2.9070507@verizon.net>

NAS Whidbey arrivals 270.8, 285.65 Appr Ctl

OUTLAW 1 AJ 500
PUGET 10
SKYBOLT 2
RAYGUN 1

Misc

157.05 CG Group Seattle. CG 6582 flight ops normal
156.25 Seattle VTS. CG Cutter Alert conducted operations near Reef Point
256.80 Gray AAF Tower. BOISE 12 landed
271.00 WADS BIGFOOT. HARRY 01 123rd FS followed a target north of 
Seattle, then did a 30 minute Seahawks CAP to burn off fuel before 
returning to Portland

Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA
Northwest Aircraft Communications
http://microvoltradio.com/

From Dredcrown01 at wmconnect.com  Tue Jul  6 22:40:29 2004
From: Dredcrown01 at wmconnect.com (Dredcrown01@wmconnect.com)
Date: Wed Jul  7 06:08:02 2004
Subject: [MilCom] MIL: 9.016 BATHROOM, again
Message-ID: <1e2.24c28cc0.2e1cbc9d@wmconnect.com>


Jeff Haverlah wrote regarding the 6/23/04 activity on 8.992:

>BATHROOM is apparently the TACAMO LANT.  She's active at 
>h+37 (1237z) with W3DZNG and W33ZPZ on 13155.0, 6697.0,
>8992.0 and 11244.0, and standing by for traffic.

She was also on 9.016 with a station, using the challednge procedure
to accept another station into the net. I've not heard much on this
frequency for a year...did they resurrect the Nightwatch Net for
a while??

BTW, BATHROOM was extremely strong in western Maryland.
The same female operator was on the morning of 6/24 using a
different callsign, sending EAMs on 8992, 11244, and 13155.

Regards,
Phil AB9IL

From jehaverlah at pdq.net  Wed Jul  7 13:42:18 2004
From: jehaverlah at pdq.net (Jeff Haverlah)
Date: Wed Jul  7 13:45:33 2004
Subject: [MilCom] MIL: 8992.0 - ACID MAN
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20040707123913.00a236d0@pop.pdq.net>

1740z  07 Jul 04

      8992.0 was active at 1725z and 1736z with ACID MAN (fair levels here) 
calling MAINSAIL and raising MCCLELLAN (unheard here; weak to ACID MAN) for 
brief signal checks and gone. Between the two calls he may have responded 
to another aircraft (unheard here) requesting a signal check.

Jeff Haverlah

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Jeff Haverlah               Coastal Texas           jehaverlah@pdq.net
      Drake R7 (Gilfer Mod)  Drake R8B               Ten-Tec RX320/GNRX320
      Panasonic RFB-65       JPS NIR-12/ANC-4        "wires" and loops
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From jmhayes at speakeasy.net  Wed Jul  7 14:51:40 2004
From: jmhayes at speakeasy.net (Jordan Hayes)
Date: Wed Jul  7 14:53:32 2004
Subject: [MilCom] CG 1501
Message-ID: <069f01c46453$70b28f70$1348a8c0@PAD>

Headed to Hawaii, on ZOA/134.15 at 1851Z.

From rfinder1 at verizon.net  Wed Jul  7 17:27:49 2004
From: rfinder1 at verizon.net (Ken)
Date: Wed Jul  7 17:29:29 2004
Subject: Civilian Illegal Use/Interference Re: [MilCom] 139.9 MHz
References: <40EB183F.4080101@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <00f901c46469$41ef1df0$6501a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>

Hello Greg & the Group:

Interesting why they would pick a U2 Ops frequency AM to use (probably
because they are clueless to what frequencies the radios are operating on
anyways!!!).  I wonder if the U2's are able to switch modes to FM and
monitor/talk with them OR if there's any enforcement action pending??   I
know in my area the local Army National Guard Helo ops types tell me that on
the low band VHF FM that they use they would routinely pickup folks talking
on their portable telephones.  Also one of the A10 air/air is 49.85 and
around here it's highly populated with baby monitors.. normally I just use a
portable antenna attached to the scanner while mobile but recently had the
magmount on the roof and I picked up the signal for close to a mile and
there were plenty of signals even in a fairly rural area.

Ken
Springfield MA Monitoring Area

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Brazil" <baycomm@earthlink.net>
To: "mil" <milcom@mailman.qth.net>; "fedcom" <fedcom@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 5:23 PM
Subject: [MilCom] 139.9 MHz


> Just heard some local fishermen talking on 139.9 FM.  "I'm so fxxxxxx
> mad if I had a gun I could shoot him."
> Greg (SF Bay Area)


From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Wed Jul  7 18:14:57 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Wed Jul  7 18:20:23 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF Logs 6 July 04
Message-ID: <001301c46470$5269d9c0$90da4fd8@Marks>

[00:12:10][FRQ  7527000][TO ][OPB            ][TIS][J24            ][AL0] BER 18 SN 04 followed by 24C reporting to PANTHER they are off deck and en route back to W6

0016Z    10993.6    ANDVT

0023Z    5696.0    CAMSLANT calling Cutter EAGLE

[00:22:26][FRQ  7527000][TO ][OPB            ][TIS][J24            ][AL0] BER 23 SN 02 followed by 24C position report to PANTHER. Bearing 339, 55.4 miles from W6

[01:12:09][FRQ  5732000][TO ][CS1            ][TIS][I57            ][AL0] BER 30 SN 11 followed by Parkhill encryption


ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: C50, CS1, CS3, CS6, CS9, I08, I43, I57, J03, J11, J18, J24, J37, LNT, M46, M70, OPB, PNR400, TSC





Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
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https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From dehmmy at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 18:29:20 2004
From: dehmmy at gmail.com (dehm)
Date: Wed Jul  7 18:31:27 2004
Subject: Civilian Illegal Use/Interference Re: [MilCom] 139.9 MHz
In-Reply-To: <00f901c46469$41ef1df0$6501a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>
References: <40EB183F.4080101@earthlink.net>
	<00f901c46469$41ef1df0$6501a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>
Message-ID: <4061d8e304070715296a0e7cb9@mail.gmail.com>

139.9 AM is used in Maryland at Andrews AFB as a SOF freq.


On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 17:27:49 -0400, Ken <rfinder1@verizon.net> wrote:
> Hello Greg & the Group:
> 
> Interesting why they would pick a U2 Ops frequency AM to use (probably
> because they are clueless to what frequencies the radios are operating on
> anyways!!!).  I wonder if the U2's are able to switch modes to FM and
> monitor/talk with them OR if there's any enforcement action pending??   I
> know in my area the local Army National Guard Helo ops types tell me that on
> the low band VHF FM that they use they would routinely pickup folks talking
> on their portable telephones.  Also one of the A10 air/air is 49.85 and
> around here it's highly populated with baby monitors.. normally I just use a
> portable antenna attached to the scanner while mobile but recently had the
> magmount on the roof and I picked up the signal for close to a mile and
> there were plenty of signals even in a fairly rural area.
> 
> Ken
> Springfield MA Monitoring Area
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg Brazil" <baycomm@earthlink.net>
> To: "mil" <milcom@mailman.qth.net>; "fedcom" <fedcom@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 5:23 PM
> Subject: [MilCom] 139.9 MHz
> 
> > Just heard some local fishermen talking on 139.9 FM.  "I'm so fxxxxxx
> > mad if I had a gun I could shoot him."
> > Greg (SF Bay Area)
> 
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From m.burgess at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul  7 19:17:24 2004
From: m.burgess at sbcglobal.net (m.burgess@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Wed Jul  7 19:19:19 2004
Subject: [MilCom] news article
Message-ID: <001401c46478$907b9d90$2d11fea9@Mike>

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/T/TERROR_AIR_DEFENSES?SITE=NVLAS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
From Rapbep at aol.com  Wed Jul  7 19:24:52 2004
From: Rapbep at aol.com (Rapbep@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul  7 19:26:51 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Andrews AFB/NAS Patuxent River Logs, 7 Jul 04
Message-ID: <145.2db78ca2.2e1de044@aol.com>

HIGHLIGHTS:

1. ANDREWS AFB: 
[Tower (118.4/349.0); CP (141.55;378.1); PTD (122.85; 372.2): Potomac 
TRACON/Reagan National APP/DEP(119.3;335.5;124.2;118.95;119.85;125.65)] 

HOME BASED:

Executive 1 Foxtrot (C-20 99th AS-w/First Lady aboard)- depart in the late 
0700 hour.
Venus 93 (VC-32A # 99-0003, 1st AS)- depart. 
Mussel 05, 06, 07 (UH-1s, 1st Helo Sqdn)- local area operations
SAM 7673 (probable C-20, 99th AS)- land
Marine 084 (C-12, MASD)- land
Bully flight (2 X F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG)- on sqdn freq (127.275)
Navy 7N869 (C-12, AOD)- depart. Returned in the later afternoon.
WAMO 51 (King Air, Dept of Energy)- depart.
Marine 375 (C-12, MASD)- land
Army 01053 (UC-35, OSACOM Det)- land
Pacer 7 (C-21, 457th AS)- approaches
Angel 11 flight (2 X F-18s, VMFA-321)- land
Venus 23 (C-20 # 86-0203, 99th AS)- land
DC 31 (KC-135R, 459th ARW)- approaches.
Marine 84 (C-12, MASD)- land
Marine 717 (C-12, MASD)- land
Navy JR 094 (C-20G # 165094, VR-48)- land


VISITORS :

JOSA 995- land. Departed about 1/2 hour later.
Sunny 927 (RC-12, Hunter AAF Savannah GA)- land. Departed about 1/2 hour 
later for Pax River.
Nighthawk 34 (id as CH-53, MCAF Quantico)- transit airspace.
Tara 22 (unidentified, id as heavy)- land for DV pick-up.
PAT 931(id as C-12 # 24146, MI-NG, Lansing MI)- land then RTB to Lansing.
PAT 182- land. Departed about 1 hour later.
PAT 478 (id as C-12)- land. Departed about 1/2 hour later.
Bobby 71 (ferry tanker)- w/CP (141.55) in unsuccessful pp w/DSN 968-XXXX 
(MacDill AFB). Asked CP to relay that they will be on station at 2000Z w/45k fuel. 

Army   (id as UC-35 # 10507)- land
PAT 124- land
Army 863 (unidentified)- depart.
JOSA 903- land. Departed about 2 hours later.
JOSA 995- land.

2. PATUXENT RIVER NAS:
[NTPS-Test Pilot School; NSATS (VX-23)-Strike Aircraft Test Squadron; NFATS 
(VX-20)-Force Aircraft Test Squadron-;NRWATS (HX-21)-Rotary Wing Aircraft Test 
Squadron- 119.275; 120.05; 123.7; 127.95; 256.5; 270.8; 281.8; 354.8]

Sunny 927 (RC-12, Hunter AAF Savannah GA)-w/approach (120.05) for landing.
Water Bug 44 (possible V-22 Osprey, VX-20)- on test discrete (277.0). 
Accompanied by chase/observer aircraft.
Water Bug 929 (unidentified, VX-20)-w/approach (250.3)
Navy AX 850 (C-130T, VR-53 Andrews)- w/approach (127.95) for clearance to 
Wallops Island
Water Bug 806 (KC-130F # 149806, VX-20)- w/Bay Watch (270.8).
Water Bug 849 (E-2C # 163849, VX-20)- w/Clinch Control (345.10) w/airborne 
tracking-data link (TIMBER) system tests. Targets referenced included convoys, 
trains and SAM sites.
Navy JA 04 (P-3C # 159899, VX-1)- w/approach (121.0).
Colt flight (2 X A-10s, 104th FS MD ANG Martin State)- w/Bay Watch (270.8) in 
area R-4006.

3. MISCELLANEOUS:

PAT 1230- depart from Davison AAF.
PAT 921- depart Davison AAF.
Navy 7C408 (C-12, AOD NAS Chambers)- land at Davison AAF. Departed about 1.5 
hours later.
Omaha 4 (BICE UH-60, Reagan National)-w/Wash Helo Control (120.75) reporting 
mission completed and RTB Reagan National.
Omaha 1 (BICE UH-60, Reagan National)- w/Thor (282.425) reporting bad wx in 
northern part of patrol area---headed to the south.
PAT 1259- land at Davison AAF.
Nighthawk 1 (VH-60N, HMX-1 MCAF Quantico)- on HMX-1 interplane (273.95) 
w/unidentified helo.
Coast Guard 101 (VC-37A, Reagan National)- depart Reagan National.

RON
MIDDLE ATLANTIC MILCOM
MARYLAND, USA
PRO-2045 W/D-130J DISCONE
From baycomm at earthlink.net  Wed Jul  7 20:02:59 2004
From: baycomm at earthlink.net (Greg Brazil)
Date: Wed Jul  7 20:04:16 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Beaver
Message-ID: <40EC8F33.3070809@earthlink.net>

328.45
This AM (local) about 1730z, Bison 93 is ready to depart W283A told 
controler his call sign would change to CRUNCH when he departed W283, 
direct Fresno.
Hobo 11 flight asking what & where was the tanker.
Beaver, Tanker 99 is on 235.1 (no joy here for me).
Beaver stated safety of flight, all F/A 18's were on 362.55
Hobo 11 requests desecrate of 301.15
2010z Beaver releases Tanker 99, switch to 134.15, Oakland Center
Tanker 99 to Oakland Center on 134.15 requests direct Beale, controler 
brings him down from FL230 to FL170, after a few minutes to FL 160 and 
switch Oakland Center 125.85, then FL 110 and switch to Travis Approach 
126.6 and I lost him.
Greg (SF Bay Area)

From rfinder1 at verizon.net  Wed Jul  7 20:39:17 2004
From: rfinder1 at verizon.net (Ken)
Date: Wed Jul  7 20:41:01 2004
Subject: [MilCom] New Uniden Portables NOT MILCOM Capable!?
Message-ID: <01d501c46484$00d00530$6501a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>

Seems pretty disappointing to me that UNIDEN's new selection of upcoming
portables won't give MILCOM UHF AM aero nor allow changing modes in 138-144
mhz band(?).

Same holds true for the new Radio Shack portable PRO 96   - and one guy in
VT reports poor receiving results with using software expandable to UHF AM
range and using a milcom capable portable at the same time.

Both companies still offer base units that give milcom coverage..

Most hobbyists have limited money they can invest in a new scanner so want
the capability to do everything!!!.  Also from a practical standpoint who
wants to carry two scanners on their belts at an airshow or anywhere else
for that matter!!  When you add an FRS/GMRS radio, digital camera &
binoculars, it's time to add a wagon to transport in the equipment!!! :) ;)

All of the other companies (e.g. ICOM, Yaesu, AOR, Alinco) offering milcom
capable portable scanners don't seem to have the capabilities to do
analog/digital trunking or digital conventional.

I'll admit I've got an ICOM R2 & a  RS Pro 26 (which is getting worn &
tired!!!) that are milcom capable & one of those will be used "On Scene"
walking in the show area (probably the R2) BUT I'd sure like to have a
scanner that has it all (if I need/choose to use it at the time).

Perhaps the  hobby "market" just isn't there for milcom UHF AM Aero or VHF
(138-144) AM ops inclusion in these trunking analog/digital portable
scanners.....BUT again it sure would be nice!!!

Ken







From mikef at ohioscan.com  Wed Jul  7 22:11:10 2004
From: mikef at ohioscan.com (OHIOSCAN)
Date: Wed Jul  7 22:13:15 2004
Subject: [MilCom] LOGS
Message-ID: <000d01c46490$d6b21600$6600a8c0@DESKTOP>


06\20\04
226.400 UNID
252.100 DEATH 61 clg Airboss
346.300 UNID 54
352.600 Unid 61 "clr to fuel the stealth"
 uNID 61 ar W/STEALTH 
380.200 INDY ARTCC w/TALON 69

06\21\04
138.425 STINGS
139.625 STINGS
252.100 PITT 41 clg SCREAMER

06\22\04
139.975 STINGS
281.425 CLE ARTCC w/STINGS   

06\25\04
138.900 UNID
139.550 UNID
143.925 DEMONS
252.525 UNID
266.300 UNID
269.200 CLE ARTCC w/RATTER 41
284.625 CLE ARTCC w/RATTER 41
379.950 CLE ARTCC w/DEMON 41

06\28\04
135.100 CLE
138.350 UNID 178th ACM
139.550 UNID 178th ACM
138.900 UNID
139.625 STINGS
141.600 STINGS
142.125 UNID 178th ACM
143.850 STINGS
252.525 UNID
269.475 CLE ARTCC w/CARBON 11
290.425 CLE ARTCC w/CARBON 11
291.600 CLE ARTCC w/BULLDOG 01
307.900 CLE ARTCC w/CARBON 11
316.100 STINGS coord MOA
323.200 CLE ARTCC w/STINGS
344.600 CARBON 11

06\29\04
138.350 FRIENDLY?22
138.875 BOBBY 31 clg 41
139.625 STINGS
141.875 CATS?
269.525 CLE ARTCC w/STINGS
283.800 UNID
335.525 CLE ARTCC w/STINGS
389.600 CLE ARTCC w/CAT 11

06\30\04
120.775 CLE ARTCC w/STEEL 11
138.425 STINGS
139.625 STINGS
139.975 STINGS
141.600 STINGS
141.625 FURYS
141.825 FURYS
143.925 DEMON 11
251.125 CLE ARTCC w/STING 41
281.425 CLE ARTCC w/STING 41
283.800 STINGS
284.675 CLE ARTCC w/FURY 91
298.950 CLE ARTCC w/FURY 91
352.600 STEEL 11 AR w/UNID
371.950 CLE ARTCC w/FURY 91
375.700 UNID maybe ISRAELI
378.200 UNID maybe ISRAELI
379.950 CLE ARTCC w/DEMON 11
394.600 UNID CORONET AR


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From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Wed Jul  7 21:35:52 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Wed Jul  7 22:13:27 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF Logs 7 July 04
Message-ID: <016c01c46490$e0bc1fb0$90da4fd8@Marks>

1240Z    8971.0    GOLDENHAWK (TSC Brunswick) wkg WAFER 21 (P-3C) to request status on ICE check

1314Z    11205.0    EVERGREEN 423 check-in with SMASHER who requests to know if EVERGREEN 422 is airborne

1323Z    5696.0    CG 2131 (HU-25, CGAS Miami) requesting guard from CAMSLANT

1324Z    8992.0    LL 28 (P-3C, VP-30) with Mainsail call with no answer

1346Z    10993.6    ANDVT

1410Z    15025.0    SLUG 01 calling SMASHER with no answer

[21:21:42][FRQ 11494000][TO ][OPB FPB        ][TIS][J24            ][AL0] BER 18 SN 02 followed by 24C with ops normal report to PANTHER

2201Z    8992.0    SAM 7614 with Mainsail call with no answer

[22:11:29][FRQ  6767500][TO ][USADA1010      ][TIS][USAIS1012      ][AL0] BER 24 SN 11 

2224Z    11494.0    24C position report to PANTHER. Bearing 168, 24 miles from W6

2306Z    11494.0    CG 6039 ops report to CAMSLANT


ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: 501, 700, 704, A50, C50, CS1, CS3, CS4, CS6, CS9, D23, D48, D69, F29, I00, I01, I43, I55, I57, J11, J14, J17, J18, J24, J32, J37, J39, LNT, M46, M70, MGM, MUG, MV2, OPB, PAC, T58, TRC, TSC, X61

ALE addresses monitored on PANTHER Net: PNR400

US Army ALE addresses copied today: USADA1010, USAIS1012     




Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
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https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Wed Jul  7 21:37:59 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Wed Jul  7 22:13:44 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Charleston AFB Logs 7 July 04
Message-ID: <016d01c46490$e9468e40$90da4fd8@Marks>

349.400 Charleston CP
-------------------------
REACH 8054 departing 1231z
GRITS 35
LIFTER 50
MOOSE 72


134.100 Charleston CP
------------------------
GEMINI 7921 departing 1316z for CYQX


298.300 McEntire ANGB
---------------------------
MACE Flight w/FOX DEN


279.725 Doubleshot
----------------------
DARKSTAR
MACE 11 (F-16CJ, 157 FS) (Morning Flight)
MACE 31 (F-16CJ, 157 FS) (Afternoon Flight)
POKER 61 (F-16CJ, 77 FS)


381.350 Doubleshot
----------------------
CUBBY 51 (F-16CJ, 55 FS)
TRUMP 51 (F-16CJ, 77 FS)


264.700 Poinsett
------------------
MACE 11/13/14 (F-16CJ, 157 FS)


257.950 Myrtle Beach Approach
----------------------------------
TRUMP 51 (F-16CJ, 77 FS)


324.600 AR-207
------------------
LIFTER 37 AR w/SLUFF 61 (KC-135, 121 ARW)


327.600 AR-202
-------------------
LIFTER 91


156.800 Chl 16
-----------------
USNS PATHFINDER


157.100 USCG
-----------------
CG 6524 (HH-65B)


282.425 ICE
--------------
OMAHA 85 calling JACKPOT


165.2375 CBP
----------------
SECTOR w/ALPHA 1120




Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
http://www.wunclub.com/files/uscg_air.html
https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From paratrooper202 at earthlink.net  Wed Jul  7 22:48:00 2004
From: paratrooper202 at earthlink.net (Christopher  Corley)
Date: Wed Jul  7 22:50:15 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF log 
Message-ID: <001601c46495$fd8d0a00$52559a04@computer>

11226 KHz ALE soundings monitor at 02:22z July 7, 2004
OFF- USAF Offut AFB,NE
MCC- USAF McClellan AFB Scope Command
AED- USAF Elmendorf AFB, AK
JNR- USAF Salinas, PR SCOPE Command
ICZ- USAF Sigonella, Italy
IKF- USAF Keflavik, Iceland
PLA- USAF Lajes Field Azores Scope Command
ADW- USAF HF-GCS control stn, Andrews AFB, MD
RIC- CAP National Technology Ctr, Richmond, VA
CRO- USAF Croughton, UK
523576- KC135 aircraft
No voice today
Chris Corley
From wb9omc at nlci.com  Wed Jul  7 22:52:58 2004
From: wb9omc at nlci.com (Duane Mantick)
Date: Wed Jul  7 22:53:17 2004
Subject: [MilCom] RAPTOR flight test
In-Reply-To: <20040706150215.16770.qmail@web13604.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001601c46496$ad670b60$bb6040ce@nlci.com>

On a slightly related topic, I have heard a rumor
that there may be an F22 that is doing airshow
demo work this summer.  Anybody got any scuttlebutt
on that?  If true, frequencies would be good.  :-)

Duane
WB9OMC


> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 10:02 AM
> To: milcom@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [MilCom] RAPTOR flight test
> 
> 
> Just turned on the radio.
> 
> RAPTOR w' chase; flight test. 255.725
> 
> =====
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From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Wed Jul  7 22:59:00 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul  7 23:00:57 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKFK: 07 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <1d3.256709a6.2e1e1274@aol.com>

At last, some activity.

372.20:  JOSA-218, (C-21A, Peterson), takeoff Colorado Springs.
372.20:  JOSA-903, (C-21A, Peterson), takeoff Colorado Springs.
275.80:  REDEYE-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out on 2 sorties to 
Cheyenne MOA.
121.60:  REACH 236T, (C-5A, Westover), cleared to Cocoa Beach.
228.45:  BULLET-11, (F/A-18F,  VFA-2, Lemoore), request WX Offutt.
349.20:  SMOKY-99, (C-21A, Peterson), request WX Lincoln, NE.
319.00:  CZAR-81, flight of 2, (B-2A, Whiteman), with Denver Center. In the 
Block 280-290, non-standard, 3 miles. Switch 323.25.
275.80:  REDEYE-31, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out on IR-416.
291.675: ROMAN-65, flight of 2, (F/A-18, VFA-106, Oceana), land; then on to 
Fallon.
291.675: MADHOG-1, (A-10A, Willow Grove), land.
319.00:  CZAR-81, flight of 2, (B-2A, Whiteman), with Denver Center, in the 
Block 370-390. ((Heading back east again))
291.675  ROMAN-67, flight of 2, (F/A-18, VFA-106, Oceana), land.
121.00:  PAT-117, (C-26B, Buckley), land.
275.80:  ROMAN-67, flight of 2, (F/A-18, VFA-106, Oceana), cleared to Fallon. 
Had to abort takeoff due to multiple bird strikes 3,000 feet down takeoff 
roll. ((Bunches of horned larks have taken up residence alongside the runway; 
making life difficult for pilots))
291.675: RAIDER-95, (F/A-18, VFA-125, Lemoore) land.
291.675: BULLET-11, (F/A-18F, VFA-2, Lemoore), land; then cleared to the 
west. ((Missed the actual destination.))

Sandy
Denver, CO
From mystic at ikansas.com  Wed Jul  7 21:39:09 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Wed Jul  7 23:05:40 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	07 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <000701c46498$31d70c00$6ecb2740@u5a3b0>

316.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE PRIMARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
0004Z - SMOKY de SCALP-94, rqst relay to WIZARD for ____-## scenario
2011Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT on UHF checking in (also called on VICTOR to check in
as original signal fm SMOKY was "weak")
2130Z - SMOKY de DEATH-33, approx 30 minutes out; rqst status of weather on
the range.  How far from the site is it?  OK, might be in early then & will
be dropping fm 4000 vice 5000 as the fax read.

363.200 (KZKC SALINA)
2040Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT diverting route due to weather RTB SOUIX FALLS

263.100 (KZKC ANTHONY)
0033Z - CZAR-87 FLIGHT checking in

269.500 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
0015Z - CZAR-87 FLIGHT checking in
0033Z - DEATH-25, radio check

277.400 (KZKC SPRINGFIELD)
2011Z - DEATH-33

323.200 (KZKC EMPORIA)
2135Z - DEATH-33 will maintain this heading for tfc.  We need 20 miles
clearance btwn us & that stuff
(t-storm)

134.900 (KZKC SALINA)
0126Z - MARSA terminated btwn SENTRY-52 & HAPPY-64 (copied mobile in SALINA)
1735Z - HUSKER-15, single ship, cleared direct LINCOLN when able (copied
mobile in SALINA)

133.925  (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
1726Z - SMOKY-99, cleared direct KOFF, & will you be handling change w/
Flight Services? (copied mobile in SALINA)
1730Z -  HUSKER-17 (copied mobile in SALINA)
1742Z - DRYER-42 is cleared direct LINCOLN, direct PAWNEE, direct OFFUTT
(copied mobile in SALINA)

135.900 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
1903Z - TURBO-81

119.400 (KZMP HASTINGS)
0006Z - COBRA-99

392.200 (93rd BOMB SQDN, 917th WING; BARKSDALE AFB; A-2-A)
0001Z - SCALP-94 FLIGHT; switch to SMOKY

139.700 (114th FW SDANG; SOUIX FALLS, SOUTH DAKOTA: VICTOR-13)
2014Z - LOBO-11, LOBO-12, LOBO-13 & LOBO-14

149.400 (138th FW OKANG; TULSA, OKLAHOMA: VICTOR-14)
1930Z - TRIBE-01 & TRIBE-02

305.500 (AR-330)
0042Z - HAPPY-64 conducts AR OPNS w/ SENTRY-52 (7700351)
Scramble Database Query Results:
Serial   Code   Type   CN   Unit   Status   First   Last   Comment
77-0351   OK   E-3B   21551/930   960th AACS   act   jun02   aug03

326.200 (KEND APP)
1854Z - BISON-05, rqst recovery east side & has information OSCAR
1854Z - BISON-04

342.550 (KEND METRO)
1959Z - T-Storms & BARKSDALE mentioned, then: "THANKS ALOT, BUDDY-27 OUT" or
it could have been: " Thanks a lot buddy, 27 out"

344.600 (KSZL METRO)
1848Z - JOSA-218 rqsting forecast for SPRINGFIELD, IL (SPI) @ 1930Z

375.200 (KIAB METRO)
2214Z - CZAR-81 FLIGHT rqsting current weather & forecast for 2300Z for
KSZL.

311.000 (COMMAND POST)
2114Z - ____ CMD POST de TURBO-49
2156Z - SPIRIT CONTROL de SKULL-26, Rg pushing 321

321.000 (COMMAND POST)
2206Z - SHOCKER CONTROL de TURBO-82 abn @ _____
2158Z - BLUE OPNS (via pp thru SPIRIT CONTROL) de SKULL-26, be back in the
local area @ _____ hrs local.


---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Wed Jul  7 23:29:19 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul  7 23:31:18 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/7/04
Message-ID: <a8.2e39991e.2e1e198f@aol.com>

A decent active day here.

PAT-401 (??) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

COBB-50 flight of 3 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared to Augusta (GA) (KAGS). (Would return around 1725z)

PAT-662 (UC-35) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Navy Willow Grove 
(KNXX). (Would return around 0140z)

COBB-53 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would return around 1450z, 
Was part of COBB 50 flight)

NAVY 7B-504 (UC-12, NAS Atlanta) 134.125, lands Dobbins.

RED DOG-31 (AH-1, NAS Atlanta) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins. (Would return around 
1645z)

LOCKHEED-5501 (WC-130J, Keesler, # 99-5309) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. 
(Would return around 2025z)

PAT-124 (??) 120.75>121.0>126.975, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Andrews 
(KADW).

GATOR-81 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7>254.35, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared 
to Marine Beaufort (KNBC)  (Would return around 1855z)
 (Originally, GATOR 91 was headed to Beaufort, but went back to ramp for unk 
reason, I mention this, Because it was a fmr VFA-203 jet VMFA-142 recieved, 
Still in the -203 aggressor scheme but no markings as of yet.)

GATOR-55 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7>284.7, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared 
to Rome 245 Radial. (Would return around 1915z)

PAT-701 (UC-35) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Wright AAF (Fort 
Stewart) (KLHW).

CRAWDAD-02 (P-3, NAS JRB New Orleans) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared 
to Navy Jax (KNIP).

GATOR-11 flight of 2 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7 (A/A 328.55), 
takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Marine Cherry Point (KNKT).

LOCKHEED-5550 (C-130J, Lockheed Test) 120.75.126.975, takeoff Dobbins. (Would 
return around 1920z)

RED DOG 41 flight of 2 (AH-1, NAS Atlanta) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins.

LOBO-324 (UC-12, MCAS Cherry Point) 134.125, lands Dobbins. (Would later 
depart around 2215z, Cleared to Marine Cherry Point (KNKT).)

COBB-88 (C-130)  120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. (Shot approaches for 
about 20mins then off to, I believe, Navy Willow Grove (KNXX). Would return 
around 0105z.)

COBB-31 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75,134.125 (Shot approaches for about 3hrs then 
in for the night, 0045z)
------------------------------------------------
ROCKET-506 (T-39, NAS Pensacola) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 371.95, FL 310
CAESAR-32 (F-15, LA-ANG, NAS JRB New Orleans) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 254.35, Rqst'd 
CAP altitudes (Block 19-20)
CAESAR-32 flight (F-15, LA-ANG, NAS JRB New Orleans) w/ ATL CAP AAR (252.0) 
(Also using 265.4)
------------------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga


From jhenault at tampabay.rr.com  Wed Jul  7 23:37:38 2004
From: jhenault at tampabay.rr.com (John Henault)
Date: Wed Jul  7 23:39:50 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Test Pleae Disregard
Message-ID: <029101c4649c$eac52180$99a95c18@JFHenault>

Test Message Only..

John Henault

From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Thu Jul  8 02:29:14 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Thu Jul  8 02:31:23 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Seattle Milcom JULY 7
Message-ID: <40ECE9BA.8030504@verizon.net>

NAS Whidbey arrivals 126.05, 270.8 Appr Ctl
DEEPSEA 50
TIMBER 11
PUGET 13

321.0 Fairchild AFB CP
TANKER 45 phone patch to McConnell CP
REACH 6955 inbound

124.8 McChord AFB Tower
PAT 843 landed

157.075 CG Group Port Angeles
CG 6563 flight ops normal

337.3 TSC Whidbey
DEEPSEA 33 radio check with HABITAT

9096.0
EXPO 93 tried to raise Expo Ops


Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA
Northwest Aircraft Communications
http://microvoltradio.com/

From blaine.brooks at comcast.net  Thu Jul  8 11:04:32 2004
From: blaine.brooks at comcast.net (Blaine Brooks)
Date: Thu Jul  8 11:06:38 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Re: New Uniden Portables NOT MILCOM Capable!? 
References: <20040708021419.77CD885A165@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <004b01c464fc$e09c6aa0$6401a8c0@brooks>


> Same holds true for the new Radio Shack portable PRO 96   - and one guy in
> VT reports poor receiving results with using software expandable to UHF AM
> range and using a milcom capable portable at the same time.

I have a PRO-96, and while the reception isn't always 
5 by 5 on milair UHF, it still picks it up with the Win96
software and the expandable frequencies, and that's good
enough for me. Yeah, it's not a PRO-43, but you can still 
take it to an airshow, have it do digital and trunked sytems, 
and be very happy. At least I am....

Blaine Brooks
Flower Mound, Tx.

From jehaverlah at pdq.net  Thu Jul  8 12:29:22 2004
From: jehaverlah at pdq.net (Jeff Haverlah)
Date: Thu Jul  8 12:32:09 2004
Subject: [MilCom] MIL: 6697.0 - PUPIL EYE
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20040708112607.00a41950@mail.pdq.net>

1626z  08 Jul 04

      6697.0 was active at 1525z and 1555z with PUPIL EYE (good levels 
here) bcsting two 28-character EAMs (DR63FM; DROVDG) and simulcasting same 
on 8992.0 (good), 11244.0 (good) and 13155.0 (good; heard only at 
1555z).  H+25/h+55 activity.  Nothing heard at 1625z.

Jeff Haverlah

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jeff Haverlah               Coastal Texas           jehaverlah@pdq.net
      Drake R7 (Gilfer Mod)  Drake R8B               Ten-Tec RX320/GNRX320
      Panasonic RFB-65       JPS NIR-12/ANC-4        "wires" and loops
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

From vculver at verizon.net  Thu Jul  8 13:25:08 2004
From: vculver at verizon.net (Vic/Johanna Culver)
Date: Thu Jul  8 13:27:12 2004
Subject: [MilCom] ADW Ramp Freeze
Message-ID: <GPEGKLFMCIKIAOCCLLFCCEBKCJAA.vculver@verizon.net>

DE Alexandria, VA

1723Z  139.150 DC CAP.  Unannounced ramp freeze at ADW in progress for
approximately another 20 mins.  Vic

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From jehaverlah at pdq.net  Thu Jul  8 14:12:41 2004
From: jehaverlah at pdq.net (Jeff Haverlah)
Date: Thu Jul  8 14:15:27 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 8992.0 - PUPIL EYE
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20040708130955.00a2ee20@mail.pdq.net>

1810z  08 Jul 04

      8992.0 was active at 1711z with PUPIL EYE (good levels here) bcsting 
a 28-character EAM (DRQKWI) and simulcast same on at least 6697.0 (good) 
and 11244.0 (good) with nothing heard on 13155.0.  Back up with same at 
1725z (unheard on 13155.0) and 1755z (heard on 13155.0 and the other 3).

Jeff Haverlah

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jeff Haverlah               Coastal Texas           jehaverlah@pdq.net
      Drake R7 (Gilfer Mod)  Drake R8B               Ten-Tec RX320/GNRX320
      Panasonic RFB-65       JPS NIR-12/ANC-4        "wires" and loops
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

From baycomm at earthlink.net  Thu Jul  8 14:27:12 2004
From: baycomm at earthlink.net (Greg Brazil)
Date: Thu Jul  8 14:28:35 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Beaver
Message-ID: <40ED9200.5030105@earthlink.net>

Right now "fight on" @ 1840z.  Beaver is simocasting on 328.45, 282.05 & 
250.65.  Tac freqs given were 275.25 & 265.0.  Heard Ghost, Hobo, Viper.
Just got a "know it off" @ 1824z.  "Setting up for the next event"
Greg (SF Bay Area)

From jehaverlah at pdq.net  Thu Jul  8 14:53:35 2004
From: jehaverlah at pdq.net (Jeff Haverlah)
Date: Thu Jul  8 14:56:14 2004
Subject: [MilCom] MIL: 8992.0 - RAZOR 88
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20040708135042.00a45a00@mail.pdq.net>

1851z  08 Jul 04

      8992.0 was active at 1824z with RAZOR 88 (fair/weak levels here) 
calling MAINSAIL for a signal check but stepped on by OFFUTT bcsting a 
154-character EAM (43XP2R).  RAZOR 88 not heard after the conclusion of the 
EAM xmsn.  Busy local mid-day for longer EAM strings.  A 171-character 
string around 1500z and a 26-character (+/-) NC... series string around 1750z.

Jeff Haverlah

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jeff Haverlah               Coastal Texas           jehaverlah@pdq.net
      Drake R7 (Gilfer Mod)  Drake R8B               Ten-Tec RX320/GNRX320
      Panasonic RFB-65       JPS NIR-12/ANC-4        "wires" and loops
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

From rfinder1 at verizon.net  Thu Jul  8 17:01:40 2004
From: rfinder1 at verizon.net (Ken)
Date: Thu Jul  8 17:03:40 2004
Subject: Pro 96 More Input Needed!!! Re: [MilCom] Re: New Uniden Portables NOT
	MILCOM Capable!? 
References: <20040708021419.77CD885A165@mailman.qth.net>
	<004b01c464fc$e09c6aa0$6401a8c0@brooks>
Message-ID: <00c301c4652e$c4b65080$6501a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>

Hello Blaine & the Group:

You know I'm on the fence about getting this RS portable - there's a lot of
positive aspects.. BUT I guess what I'm very interested in is what is the
reasonable expectation as to the receiver sensitivity in an operational
environment..  So I'd like more input on this....  I'd assume that if you
are right at or very near an military airfield you will probably hear the
activity fairly well, BUT the question is how well is it going to work other
than in the immediate area?  Also when you talk about airshows are you also
talking about VHF tactical AM freqs?

Ken

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blaine Brooks" <blaine.brooks@comcast.net>
To: <rfinder1@verizon.net>
Cc: "Discussion of MilCom" <milcom@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 11:04 AM
Subject: [MilCom] Re: New Uniden Portables NOT MILCOM Capable!?


> I have a PRO-96, and while the reception isn't always
> 5 by 5 on milair UHF, it still picks it up with the Win96
> software and the expandable frequencies, and that's good  enough for me.
Yeah, it's not a PRO-43, but you can still
> take it to an airshow, have it do digital and trunked sytems,
> and be very happy. At least I am....
>
> Blaine Brooks
> Flower Mound, Tx.
>
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From thewileys210 at hotmail.com  Thu Jul  8 20:13:09 2004
From: thewileys210 at hotmail.com (Barry Wiley)
Date: Thu Jul  8 20:15:13 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Middle Ga. Logs
Message-ID: <BAY19-F36Ud9mTP2vZX0001455c@hotmail.com>

Normal day at Moody.

MAUL 327.4 in Rodan MOA 269.4, 233.7
SONIC 236.075 Grand Bay Range
NUKE 138.3 acm
HARLEY 327.4, 269.4, 233.7
DUSTER 149.55 acm in the Viper MOA 269.4
ANGER 349.0 Requesting Diamond 1 Low area
DIRTY 138.4 acm in Rodan also 233.7 (DIRTY2 sounded like he had a Dutch 
accent)
Note- 139.625, 143.825 Pilots flying doing checks in the Diamond Areas 
giving cloud/wx info.
SMURF 233.7
VENOM 349.

Peachtree
RAZOR 33 doing 1hr. of pattern work then passing line write ups.

ARTCC
ROGUE 17 380.15, 273.6

Misc.
GATOR 11 (self Id as a flight of 2) 284.5, 285.65, 319.2
PAT 522 Alpha 5 pickup and fuel ( sounded like he was inboud to Robins)


From mystic at ikansas.com  Thu Jul  8 20:04:43 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Thu Jul  8 20:40:50 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	08 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <002901c4654d$13d91ee0$82cb2740@u5a3b0>

316.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE PRIMARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
1456Z - PANTHER-01 FLIGHT checks in for play period
1550Z - RAGE-01 FLIGHT w/ OPRAH-01 (ABN FAC) followed by CHILLY-01 FLIGHT  &
ANCHOR-01 (ABN FAC) playing on playground
1851Z - CASINO-05 FLIGHT playing; We will see you in a couple of weeks.
1928Z - FURY-42 & CZAR-84 playing on playground.  Someone is taking one of
their "toys" home with them because it did not do as instructioned.
2012Z - SMOKY de CZAR-84, do you have scores for us?
2322Z - FURY-47 playing on playground

304.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE SECONDARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
1623Z - DARKSTAR copies all

363.200 (KZKC SALINA)
1524Z - PANTHER-01 FLIGHT (UNIFORM-17) checking in passing 15.5; rqst direct
DES MOINES if able
1609Z - CHILE-01
1635Z - OPRAH-01 (he spelled) RTB WHITEMAN
1640Z - RAGE-01 FLIGHT RTB WHITEMAN
1659Z - CHILLY-01 FLIGHT RTB WHITEMAN
1706Z - de ANCHOR-01, I have been told you are looking for me
1900Z - CASINO-05 FLIGHT direct BARKSDALE
1948Z - FURY-42
2018Z - CZAR-84 @ 6000; rqst direct WHITEMAN when able
2339Z - de FURY-47, will be making one more pass on the range & will be
looking to exit to the north

296.600 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
1528Z - PANTHER-01 FLIGHT cleared FL 250

343.700 (KZKC TOPEKA)
1728Z - SKULL-20 (write-up your radio!)
1730Z  - DUKE--21

360.850 (KZKC NORTHEAST KANSAS HIGH DISCRETE)
1535Z - PANTHER-01 FLIGHT @ FL 290 w/ winds at 10 knots
1715Z - THUNDERBALL-51
2348Z - FURY-41
2355Z - FURY-47 @ FL 240

285.400 (KZKC EMPORIA)
0143Z - DEATH-38
1906Z - CASINO-05, we are a two-ship formation

273.450 (KZKC UNIDENTIFIED CENTRAL/SOUTHWESTERN MISSOURI DISCRETE)
0347Z - DEATH-38

281.450 (KZKC TULSA)
1910Z - CASINO-05

269.500 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
1915Z - FURY-41

323.150 (KZKC SEDALIA)
2318Z - BALL-51 go
2349Z - FURY-41

134.900 (KZKC SALINA)
1508Z - EVAN-62 accepts MARSA w/ EVAN-61 & is cleared to conduct manuevering
& AR OPNS within the confines of AR-653
2130Z - GUARD-455 rqst direct FORBES; 127.35

127.350 (KZKC MANHATTAN)
2136Z - GUARD-455 checking in

123.800 (KZKC TOPEKA)
1712Z - KANZA-63 diverting flight plan due to weather (gonna be one of those
days! TSTORMS )

133.925 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
1759Z - RAYTHEON_TEST-117 is RESTRICTED to 90 mile radius fm WICHITA due to
telementry limitations.  Ready to do our next north-south high speed run.

123.150 (RAYTHEON TEST)
1821Z - de 117 & we made that last pass faster than we had calculated.

297.300 (PAWNEE-LAMONI AR TRACK)
0035Z - OKIE-12 conducts AR OPNS w/ CORVUS-52

305.500 (AR-330)
0041Z - HUSKER-25 co-ordinates AR OPNS w/ _____-##. "Mickey in 5 seconds.
OK,
for some reason HAVE QUICK is not working.  Go green comm-2."  HUSKER-25
FLIGHT conducts AR OPNS w/ _____-07.  ____-07 contact KC CENTRE on 125.25

327.600 (AR-110 PRIMARY)
0131Z - KANZA-59 co-ordinates w/ DEATH-35 to conduct AR OPNS
0135Z - JAYHAWK-33 co-ordinateS w/ DEATH-38 to conduct AR OPNS on AR
SECONDARY

319.700 (AR-110 SECONDARY)
0136Z - JAYHAWK-33 co-ordinateS w/ DEATH-33 to conduct AR OPNS

324.400 (AR-653)
1520Z - EVAN-61 conducts SIMULATED AR OPNS w/ EVAN-62

366.300 (AR-116)
1715Z - SKULL-20 de RAID-51 we are on time. What is weather your location?
Co-ordination prior to commencement of AR OPNS

259.600 (155th ARW NEANG; LINCOLN, NEBRASKA: HUSKER CONTROL & A-2-A)
0206Z - HUSKER-25 w/ HUSKER-26

138.200  (132nd FW IAANG; DES MOINES, IOWA: VICTOR-??)
1456Z - PANTHER-01 w/ PANTHER-02

149.100 (442nd FW; WHITEMAN AFB: VICTOR-??)
1555Z - CHILLY-01 FLIGHT & w/ ANCHOR-01 (ABNFAC)

149.525 (442nd FW; WHITEMAN AFB: VICTOR-17)
1610Z - RAGE-01 FLIGHT & w/ OPRAH-01 (ABNFAC)

48.95 FM (1st Battalion, 108th Aviation, Kansas Army National Guard)
2132Z - GUARD OPNS w/ GUARD-455 (something about calling Bn concerning
goggles)

126.700 (KICT APP - DEP)
0333Z - KANZA-57

326.200 (KEND APP)
2212Z - HYDRA-11
2213Z - BISON-03 is having a problem & needs to contact SOF
2303Z - BISON-24

344.600 (KSZK METRO)
2009Z - FURY-43 (female pilot or co-pilot) is 20 minutes out.  Rqst current
conditions.  Rg, we are painting that

375.200 (KIAB METRO)
0203Z - HUSKER-26 has discussion about weather in western Kansas, especially
in the vic of HILL CITY, KS
0243Z - RATTER-71

311.000 (COMMAND POST)
1706Z - SHOCKER CONTROL de GAUNT-27, 20 minutes out inbound your station
rqst parking & transportation
1945Z - ____ CMD POST provides pp to VIKING-42 & VIKING-42 makes ref to a
VIKING-25

321.000 (COMMAND POST)
0322Z - SHOCKER MAINT. de KANZA-57; approx 30 minutes out; ALPHA-2 w/ 1
write-up; 40K on the fuel & rqst parking.  Rg, BRAVO-05

381.300 (COMMAND POST)
0421Z - de CZAR-87, 20 minutes out
2331Z - CZAR-85

370.100 (TACAMO)
2007Z (WFM) modem
2011Z (WFM) modem w/ voice

368.250 (MID-CONUS TACAMO)
1552Z (NFM) modem

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CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From mikef at ohioscan.com  Thu Jul  8 21:53:20 2004
From: mikef at ohioscan.com (OHIOSCAN)
Date: Thu Jul  8 21:55:26 2004
Subject: [MilCom] LOGS
Message-ID: <001b01c46557$8337d150$6600a8c0@DESKTOP>


07\08\04
138.425 STINGS
139.625 STINGS
139.850 DEMONS
143.925 DEMONS
141.600 STINGS
141.700 UNID
141.850 T-BIRDS
143.850 T-BIRDS
        STINGS
148.525 DEMONS
235.100 UNID AR
251.125 CLE ARTCC w/STING 21
255.400 THUNDERBIRD 3 w/CLE FSS req KBKM wx
269.100 CHI ARTCC w/ROMAN 67
281.425 CLE ARTCC w/STING 11
285.425 CLE ARTCC w/STING 43
291.600 CLE ARTCC w/FAST 51
291.725 CLE ARTCC w/STINGS
335.525 CLE ARTCC w/ROMAN 67
                    T-BIRDS
343.600 INDY ARTCC w/FAST 51
346.300 INDY ARTCC w/ROMAN 67
353.750 INDY ARTCC w/STING 43
363.025 INDY ARTCC w/NODAK 11
363.200 INDY ARTCC w/NODAK 11?
343.600 INDY ARTCC w/NODAK 11


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From mystic at ikansas.com  Thu Jul  8 22:19:01 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Thu Jul  8 22:21:50 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 0208Z - 0211Z & 0214Z - 0217Z
Message-ID: <000201c4655b$289502a0$82cb2740@u5a3b0>

321.000
BEEFCAKE passes EAMS DRUFEO w/ phrase "stand-by for more" followed by DRJS4R
w/ phrase "de BEEFCAKE out"

311.000
BEEFCAKE passes same msgs as noted on 321.0
NO SIMULCASTING NOTED during either transmission
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CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Fri Jul  9 00:06:24 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul  9 00:08:33 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/8/04
Message-ID: <24.5aac49ac.2e1f73c0@aol.com>

An alright day here I suppose.

N409LM (Gulfstream II, Lockheed Martin VIP) 120.75>121.0, takeoff 
Dobbins.(Would return around 1730z, Would later depart around 1755z, Cleared to Fort 
Worth Int'l (KFTW).)

WOLF-02 (E-2, NAS Atlanta) 134.125, lands Dobbins.

GUARD-26608 (UH-60, FL-ArNG) 120.75>126.975, takeoff Dobbins.

COBRA-10 (EA-6, NAF Washington) 120.75>121.0>125.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared 
to Navy Andrews/Washington (NSF)

WOLF-01 (E-2, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Asheville (KAVL). (Return later.)

LOCKHEED-5548 (C-130J, Lockheed Test) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared Round Robin. (Would return around 2020z)

NAVY 7B-242 (UC-12, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
MacDill (KMCF).

COBB-50 flight of 2 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

LOCKHEED-5550 (C-130J, Lockheed Test) 120.75, (Shot approaches for about 
15mins then back in.)

CAT-850 (T-?, NAS Pensacola) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

PAT-234 (C-12) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart around 1940z, 
Cleared to McGuire (KWRI))

GATOR-11 flight of 2 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7>254.35 (A/A 328.55), 
takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to the Beaufort 245 radial 030 mile fix.

RED DOG-11 (AH-1, NAS Atlanta) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins. (Would return around 
2000z)

PAT-119 (C-12) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart around 2105z, 
Cleared to Cairns AAF (Fort Rucker) (KOZR))

GUARD-21857 (UH-1, Dobbins) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins. (Would return around 
0240z)

GUARD-15267 (UH-1, Dobbins) 120.75, (Working in the area for about 30mins 
then back in.)

GUARD-21735 (UH-1 Dobbins) 120.75,  (Working in the area for about 30mins 
then back in.)

COBB-60 flight of 2 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared to Augusta (GA) (KAGS). (Would return around 0250z)

EASY-116 (??, NAS JRB New Orleans) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart 
around 2020z, Cleared to Navy New Orleans (KNBG).)

GATOR-55 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

COBB-84 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75, (Working Pattern, then in for the night, 
0245z)
----------------------------------------------
ROCKET-515 (T-39, NAS Pensacola) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 350.325>132.05, FL 210
POISON-## (T-38, Columbus)  w/ Atlanta Cntr; 357.6
TAZZ-51 (KC-135, OH-ANG, Rickenbacker) w/ ?? on AR-216 (276.5)
----------------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga
From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Fri Jul  9 01:12:23 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul  9 01:14:32 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 08 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <82.1037a4a9.2e1f8337@aol.com>

Back to slow again.

275.80:  REDEYE-11, flight of 2, (F-16 Buckley), cleared out for 2 sorties to 
Cheyenne MOA and 1 sortie to Two Buttes.
372.20:  BUCKEYE-12, (F-16, OH-ANG), wants pp to Springfield Beckley. Pass 
ETA.
275.80:  WARHOG-1, (A-10, Willow Grove), cleared to Hill.
121.60:  REACH 5688, (C-130, Little Rock), cleared to Travis.
121.60:  PAT-873, (C-26B, Buckley), cleared to Rapid City.
291.675: FAST-61, (F-16, NY-ANG), land; then on to Luke.
121.00:  JOSA-252, (C-21A), land; then on to Kirtland.
319.00:  ?SCAR?-32, (Unk), with Denver Center. Switch 377.05.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Fri Jul  9 02:12:25 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Fri Jul  9 02:14:48 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Seattle Milcom JULY 8
Message-ID: <40EE3749.1070400@verizon.net>

McChord AFB arrivals 124.8 Tower, 349.4 CP

PAT 246
REACH 2110
HUSKY 34
SONIC 77
HUSKY 95

Gray AAF arrivals 119.325 Tower

Army 22097 flight of two UH-1's
Army 162


Misc

120.6 Boeing Field Tower. MARLIN 36 touch and go
120.4 Seattle Dep. EXPO 93 off Boeing Field
125.1 Seattle Center. Navy VL 939 cleared to SEDAR
315.0 Boeing flight test. REDHOOK (E-3) and E-3 Lab conducted mutual 
interference test conditions on two Satcom radios
126.85 NAS Whidbey App. DEEPSEA 50 inbound for PAR
343.6 Seattle Center. SKYBOLT 3 inbound NAS Whidbey
270.3 Seattle Center. SKYBOLT 4 inbound NAS Whidbey

Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA
Northwest Aircraft Communications
http://microvoltradio.com/

From Rapbep at aol.com  Fri Jul  9 16:38:47 2004
From: Rapbep at aol.com (Rapbep@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul  9 16:41:08 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Middle Atlantic CAPs
Message-ID: <a8.2e4a6877.2e205c57@aol.com>

All,

There have been CAPS up all day over the NY/NJ/MD/DE areas.

Cosmics (NJ ANG F-16s, Atlantic City) were up in the morning working with 
Bandsaw (228.9).

In the late afternoon Harrass 11 (id as FF 82-0011, Langley AFB) and Harrass 
12 (id as FF 83-0047, Langley AFB) are working w/Huntress (228.9) and tanker 
(228.9 & 320.6).

Working freq for NY ARTCC was given as 270.30

RON
MIDDLE ATLANTIC MILCOM
MARYLAND, USA
PRO-2045 W/D-130J DISCONE
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Fri Jul  9 17:33:16 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul  9 17:35:46 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HEADS UP PATRICK
Message-ID: <118.35183eef.2e20691c@aol.com>

COBB-84 (C-130, Dobbins) just departed (2130z) enroute to Patrick AFB.

Adam
Marietta,Ga
From dehmmy at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 18:03:15 2004
From: dehmmy at gmail.com (dehm)
Date: Fri Jul  9 18:05:35 2004
Subject: [MilCom] New Uniden Portables NOT MILCOM Capable!?
In-Reply-To: <01d501c46484$00d00530$6501a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>
References: <01d501c46484$00d00530$6501a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>
Message-ID: <4061d8e304070915032e5479c3@mail.gmail.com>

honestly, how hard would it be for them to include the extra coverage...


On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 20:39:17 -0400, Ken <rfinder1@verizon.net> wrote:
> Seems pretty disappointing to me that UNIDEN's new selection of upcoming
> portables won't give MILCOM UHF AM aero nor allow changing modes in 138-144
> mhz band(?).
> 
> Same holds true for the new Radio Shack portable PRO 96   - and one guy in
> VT reports poor receiving results with using software expandable to UHF AM
> range and using a milcom capable portable at the same time.
From milcom at ovillatx.sytes.net  Fri Jul  9 18:03:38 2004
From: milcom at ovillatx.sytes.net (lrk)
Date: Fri Jul  9 18:06:33 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Middle Atlantic CAPs
In-Reply-To: <a8.2e4a6877.2e205c57@aol.com>
References: <a8.2e4a6877.2e205c57@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20040709220338.GA180@ovillatx.sytes.net>

On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 04:38:47PM -0400, Rapbep@aol.com wrote:
> 
> There have been CAPS up all day over the NY/NJ/MD/DE areas.

Hmmm, Dubya is on a bus tour of Pennsylvania today. CAPs should be there.


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From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Fri Jul  9 19:54:19 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Fri Jul  9 19:57:32 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF Logs 8 July 04
Message-ID: <023c01c46610$2fb1ae20$3fd94fd8@Marks>

0102Z    8983.0    CG 2133 (HU-25, CGAS Cape Cod) airborne with 4 POV from NAS Key West en route Norfolk. Requests guard from CAMSLANT

0152Z    8983.0    OCEANA RADIO wkg CG 2133 for position report 29-24N 081-25W and relaying it to CAMSLANT

0234Z    4372.0    7PV, 7RI, and 0GD in Link coordination net

0250Z    8992.0    SHADO 91 (MC-130) p/p via McClellan HF-GCS to DSN 872-4800 Eglin AFB Meteo for WX


ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: 501, C50, CS1, CS3, CS4, CS6, CS9, D14, D48, D69, F29, I34, I4J, I57, I75, J16, J18, J39, LNT, M51, OPB, PAC, TSC, X53

ALE addresses monitored on PANTHER/FBI Nets: AT1, CO1, CL1, LV1, ME1, OM2, PNR400, QT2, WF1





Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
http://www.wunclub.com/files/uscg_air.html
https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From Daren3006-Milcom3006 at mailblocks.com  Fri Jul  9 20:26:18 2004
From: Daren3006-Milcom3006 at mailblocks.com (Daren3006-Milcom3006@mailblocks.com)
Date: Fri Jul  9 20:28:50 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Offutt AFB Frq's
Message-ID: <20040710002844.AB9BB8582AF@mailman.qth.net>

Hello

I will be attending both days of the airshow at Offutt AFB this year 
(Aug 21-22). Was wondering if anyone could provide me with a list of 
active Base Frq's (pertaining to air traffic).

Daren
Daren3006-Milcom3006@mailblocks.com
From m.burgess at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul  9 21:13:09 2004
From: m.burgess at sbcglobal.net (m.burgess@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Fri Jul  9 21:15:22 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Indy Air Show
Message-ID: <002201c4661b$10a33ca0$2d11fea9@Mike>

Thunder Birds will be there.

http://www.indyairshow.com/
From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Fri Jul  9 20:46:26 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Fri Jul  9 21:21:00 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Charleston AFB Logs 9 July 04
Message-ID: <027d01c4661b$d7b9e190$3fd94fd8@Marks>

349.400 Charleston CP
------------------------
TIN CAN 99


344.600 Meteo
----------------
REACH 323


306.925 Approach/Departure
------------------------------
CUTLASS 22 departing 
CUTLASS 33 departing
CUTLASS 34 departing





Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
http://www.wunclub.com/files/uscg_air.html
https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Fri Jul  9 20:46:26 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Fri Jul  9 21:22:28 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Charleston AFB Logs 9 July 04
Message-ID: <028101c4661c$0cea0fc0$3fd94fd8@Marks>

349.400 Charleston CP
------------------------
TIN CAN 99


344.600 Meteo
----------------
REACH 323


306.925 Approach/Departure
------------------------------
CUTLASS 22 departing 
CUTLASS 33 departing
CUTLASS 34 departing





Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
http://www.wunclub.com/files/uscg_air.html
https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Fri Jul  9 21:17:49 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Fri Jul  9 21:22:42 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF Logs 9 July 04
Message-ID: <028301c4661c$10c77100$3fd94fd8@Marks>

0040Z    11226.0    GOLIATH XRAY (E-3 AWACS) ALE initiated p/p to VIKING 3 (960th AACS Ops, Tinker AFB) to check on AR arrangements. Told to check back later

[01:05:49][FRQ 11226000][TO ][OFF            ][TWS][E31407         ][AL0] BER 30 SN 12  followed by GOLIATH XRAY ALE initiated call to VIKING 3 OPERATIONS.  MCC comes on to check on AR. They are told tanker is in the green and AR will be on AR Track 020 NE

0119Z    8983.0    CG 2120 (HU-25, CGAS Cape Cod) airborne with 4 POV from Atlantic City en route Cape Cod

2349Z    8912.0    JULIET 42 with 4 POV requests guard from CAMSLANT


ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: 501, 700, A99, C50, CS1, CS3, CS4, CS6, CS7, CS9, D14, D23, D69, I14, J03, J09, J42, LNT, M51, M70, MV2, OPB, PAC, TSC, X61

ALE addresses monitored on FBI/PANTHER Nets: AT1, CL1, ME1, MM1, OM2, PNR400, SJ1, WF1




Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
http://www.wunclub.com/files/uscg_air.html
https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From jehaverlah at pdq.net  Fri Jul  9 23:41:50 2004
From: jehaverlah at pdq.net (Jeff Haverlah)
Date: Fri Jul  9 23:45:08 2004
Subject: [MilCom] MIL: 11244.0 - KEY RING
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20040709224017.00a234c0@mail.pdq.net>

0340z  10 Jul 04

      11244.0 was active at 0337z with KEY RING (fair/weak levels here with 
qsb on signal) bcsting a 28-character EAM (DRRSZF) and simulcasting same on 
at least 6697.0 (weak/readable) and 8992.0 (weak/fair) with nothing heard 
on 13155.0.  H+07/h+37 activity.

Jeff Haverlah

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Jeff Haverlah               Coastal Texas           jehaverlah@pdq.net
      Drake R7 (Gilfer Mod)  Drake R8B               Ten-Tec RX320/GNRX320
      Panasonic RFB-65       JPS NIR-12/ANC-4        "wires" and loops
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From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Fri Jul  9 23:56:22 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul  9 23:58:44 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/9/04
Message-ID: <6b.2ddbbb8c.2e20c2e6@aol.com>

Not bad today.

GOOSE-412 (CH-46) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins.  (Would return around 1455z) 
(Anyone know what unit/base this guy is from?)

WOLF-01 (E-2, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to McGhee 
Tyson (KTYS) (Would return around 1540z).

COBB-50 flight of 2 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75>121.0>133.1 (A/A 239.975), 
takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Augusta (GA) (KAGS). (Would return around 1730z)

PAT-121 (C-12) 120.75>121.0>126.975, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Pope (KPOB).

NAVY 7B-504 (UC-12, NAS Atlanta) 134.125, lands Dobbins.

COBRA-50 (EA-6, NAF Washington) 370.875, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart 
around 1710z, Cleared to Navy Oceana (KNTU))

GATOR-11 flight of 3 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7>284.7>254.35, 
takeoff Dobbins. Cleared as filed. (Would return around 1915z)

GATOR-71 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Marine Beaufort (KNBC). (Would return around 1640z)

RED DOG-31 flight of 2 (AH-1, NAS Atlanta) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins. (Would 
return around 1830z)

WOLF-02 (E-2, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. (Would return 
around 1910z)

BACKY-51 (KC-135, Seymour-Johnson, # 62-3542) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would 
later depart around 2155z)

HOTCAR-21 (T-38, Moody?) 346.8, lands Dobbins. (At first I thought c/s was 
NASCAR, But sounded like HOTCAR)

PAT-468 (??) 120.75>121.0>124.45, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared as filed. (Would 
return around 2240z)

COBB-84 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75>121.0>119.8, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Patrick (KCOF).

GATOR-55 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

REACH-805N (C-17, Charleston, # 89-1189) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later 
depart around 2220z, Cleared to Charleston (KCHS).)

GATOR-91 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

ASCOT-6601 (C-17, RAF Brize Norton, # ZZ172) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

DAWG-08 (C-130, GA-ANG, Savannah) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart 
around 2320z, Cleared to Albany (GA) (KABY))

JPAT-33 (T-6A, Randolph?) 134.125, lands Dobbins.

WOLF-03 (E-2, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared Round 
Robin. (Would return around 0055z)

TEAL-28 (WC-130, Keesler) 134.125, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart around 
0145z, Cleared to Biloxi (Keesler) (KBIX).

COOL-21 flight of 2 (T-38, Laughlin) 346.8, lands Dobbins.
------------------------------------------------------------
BUCK-315 (T-?, NAS Pensacola) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 306.2>353.8, FL 210
KILLER-11 (F-16?) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 380.35
-----------------------------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga

From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Sat Jul 10 00:10:52 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul 10 00:13:14 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 09 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <d9.ee5b098.2e20c64c@aol.com>

Almost like a normal Friday in spite of late afternoon severe WX scaring off 
some of the traffic.

275.80:  REDEYE-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out on 2 sorties 
IR-416.
275.80:  RIVAL-11, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out to Cheyenne MOA.
275.80:  STUD-11, (F-16, Buckley), cleared to Hill AFB. Return later.
291.675: TIGRE-41, (F-16, AZ-ANG), land; then on to Tucson.
239.025: LOBO-11, (F-16, SD-ANG), land Colorado Springs.
121.60:  PAT-494, (C-26B, Buckley), cleared to Louisville.
121.00:  PAT-786, (C-12), land; then on to Lincoln, NE.
121.00:  REACH 5688, (C-130, Little Rock), land; then on to Little Rock.
319.00:  KILLER-11, (F-16), weak calls to Denver Center. ((Unknown if Hill or 
Shaw))
372.20:  JOSA-366, (C-21A, Peterson), land Colorado Springs.
372.20:  JOSA-307, (C-21A), takeoff Colorado Springs.
291.675: ROMAN-53, flight of 2, (F/A-18, VFA-106, Oceana), land; then on to 
Fallon.
291.675: ROMAN-51, flight of 2, (F/A-18, VFA-106, Oceana), land; then on to 
Fallon.
291.675: BAMA-11, flight of 4, (F-16, AL-ANG), land.
239.025: PG-759, (P-3C, VP-65, Pt Mugu), attempting to land Colorado Springs. 
WX pretty bad; didn't hear if he made it or had to divert.
257.875: VAMPIRE-81, (F/A-18E/F, VX-9, China Lake), takeoff Colorado Springs. 
Switch Denver Center 387.15, climbing to FL 290 requesting direct Wolbach, 
(NE) VORTAC.
298.40:  SUMMIT-16, (C-130, Peterson), says if unable to land Colorado 
Springs due to WX, will divert to Pueblo.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From SplashOneOne at aol.com  Sat Jul 10 00:32:40 2004
From: SplashOneOne at aol.com (SplashOneOne@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul 10 00:35:04 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Willow Grove Logs
Message-ID: <147.2df9936f.2e20cb68@aol.com>

July 9,2004

(Willow Grove Arrivals/Departures)

>Team 53 Heavy (KC-10;Mcguire) shot multiple approachs to rnwy 33
  then departed IFR back to Mcguire AFB. (128.675>WG GCA)
>Pride 61 (F-18;VFA-15) shot mulitple approachs to rnwy 33 then 
  landed. (266.8<WG GCA,340.2>WG Tower)
>Husky 54 (C-130;Wilmington) shot multiple approachs to rnwy 33 then
  departed IFR to Allentown.(128.675>WG GCA)
>Navy Lima Tango 621 (P-3) landed rnwy 33 (128.675>WG GCA)
>Navy Lima Tango 621 (p-3) departed rnwy 33 IFR to NAS Brunswick.
  (123.8>Phila Departure)
>Yankee 90 (KC-130;Stewart) landed rnwy 33 
>Navy 3 E 832 (T-34) landed rnwy 33
>Yankee 90 (KC-130) departes IFR rnwy 33 (123.8>Phila Departure)
>Navy 6 E 252 (T-34) landed rnwy 33 (291.7>Phila Approach,340.2>
  WG Tower)
>Navy 3 E 935 (T-34) shot two approachs to rnwy 15/33 then landed.
  (128.675>WG GCA,119.6>WG Tower)
>Navy 3 E 935 (T-34) departed rnwy 33 VFR to BED (Hanscomb AFB)
  (123.8>Phila Approach)

Chris
From mystic at ikansas.com  Sat Jul 10 01:54:33 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Sat Jul 10 01:57:14 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	09 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <008f01c46642$715224e0$62cb2740@u5a3b0>

316.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE PRIMARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
1659Z - SCALP-93 & SCALP-94 show up to play

363.200 (KZKC SALINA)
1740Z - SCALP-93 rqst INS direct BARKSDALE
1748Z - SCALP-94 is climbing out VFR to 17.5

343.700 (KZKC TOPEKA)
2014Z - (sounded like) THUMPER or THUNDER-01

134.900 (KZKC SALINA)
0113Z - HAPPY-63 FLIGHT checking in

133.925 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
0113Z - HAPPY-63 FLIGHT go 349

118.800 (KZKC ANTHONY)
0128Z - SLEEP-81
2055Z - JAYHAWK-22

123.800 (KZKC TOPEKA)
0047Z - WYLIE-43 is cleared to delay @ the _______ vortac until 0130Z &
climb to FL 280
2019Z - VANDY-61

297.300 (PAWNEE-LAMONI AR TRACK PRIMARY)
0115Z - HAPPY-63 FLIGHT co-ordinating w/ SNOOP-58 to conduct AR OPNS.
0128Z - HAPPY-63 clears SNOOP-58 to conduct AR OPNS w/ HAPPY-64

255.400 (FLIGHT SERVICE)
1744Z - ANY RADIO de SCALP-93

286.500 (190th ARW KSANG; FORBES FIELD: WYLIE CONTROL)
2021Z - WYLIE-89

311.000 (COMMAND POST)
0214Z - BEEFCAKE passes EAMS DRUFEO w/ phrase "stand-by for more" followed
by
DRJS4R
w/ phrase "de BEEFCAKE out."
NO SIMULCASTING NOTED on either 311.0 or 323.8
2202Z - WHITEMAN CMD POST de REACH-279 (calz X 2 no joy)

321.000 (COMMAND POST)
0208Z - BEEFCAKE passes EAMS DRUFEO w/ phrase "stand-by for more" followed
by DRJS4R
w/ phrase "de BEEFCAKE out."
NO SIMULCASTING NOTED on either 321.0 or 323.8

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From kstein at erols.com  Sat Jul 10 02:39:59 2004
From: kstein at erols.com (Keith Stein)
Date: Sat Jul 10 02:46:17 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Navy P-3 Tracking NASA Launch
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20040710021418.009f4ec0@pop.erols.com>

Two Navy P-3 aircraft will help track the launch of NASA's Arua Earth 
observation satellite on July 11. Lift-off is set for 6:01 a.m. EDT (3:01 
a.m. PDT) from Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif.

The aircraft should start tracking the Delta II rocket, carrying Arua, 
about five minutes and 50 seconds after lift-off. The aircraft will track 
the Delta II until 12 minutes and 40 seconds after launch and then lose 
contact with the vehicle.

The P-3's will be located at the following coordinates during their 
tracking support:

14.70 degrees North Latitude
128.60 degrees West Longitude

The two aircraft are based at Point Mugu Naval Air Station, Calif.

Keith


From photoz at juno.com  Sat Jul 10 09:48:30 2004
From: photoz at juno.com (Kevin S Burke)
Date: Sat Jul 10 09:58:20 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Re: New Uniden Portables NOT MILCOM Capable!?
Message-ID: <20040710.095359.3524.0.photoz@juno.com>

Blaine,
Thanks for the input on this.
We need to hear from people who have tried things and are happy. Now if
only you had the time to compare your results with a known radio like the
pro 43, we'd really appreciate it.
I'm not too technical as some people in the hobby are, but if the
difference in reception is not noticable for aircraft comms at an
airshow, THAT I'm sure will make people think about whether or not it is
worth it.
I think the general feeling is this radio does not have the reach, and
never claimed to to pull in distant milair comms, but it takes someone
who's  got the cash to buy it and try it.

Just my 2 cents,
Kevin
MA


On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:04:32 -0500 "Blaine Brooks"
<blaine.brooks@comcast.net> writes:
> 
> > Same holds true for the new Radio Shack portable PRO 96   - and 
> one guy in
> > VT reports poor receiving results with using software expandable 
> to UHF AM
> > range and using a milcom capable portable at the same time.
> 
> I have a PRO-96, and while the reception isn't always 
> 5 by 5 on milair UHF, it still picks it up with the Win96
> software and the expandable frequencies, and that's good
> enough for me. Yeah, it's not a PRO-43, but you can still 
> take it to an airshow, have it do digital and trunked sytems, 
> and be very happy. At least I am....
> 
> Blaine Brooks
> Flower Mound, Tx.
> 
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From kstein at erols.com  Sat Jul 10 10:45:09 2004
From: kstein at erols.com (Keith Stein)
Date: Sat Jul 10 10:51:26 2004
Subject: [MilCom] NASA DC-8
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20040710104125.00a11e70@pop.erols.com>

NASA DC-8 (call sign NASA817) is up flying an airborne science mission from 
Scott AFB/MidAmerica.

ETA return to Scott AFB is 6:21 p.m. CDT (2321Z).

Keith


From BobLangley at charter.net  Sat Jul 10 12:01:56 2004
From: BobLangley at charter.net (Bob Langley)
Date: Sat Jul 10 12:04:23 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/9/04
References: <6b.2ddbbb8c.2e20c2e6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c46697$39cd30a0$6401a8c0@FAMILY>

Adam:

HMM-774, Norfolk NAS, VA  CH-46E   [MQ]
'Goose', 'MQ'
264.4

They are in MAG-42, with HMLA-773.
They come down here every so often.  I have heard them a/a on 264.4.

Bob Langley
Sugar Hill, GA


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Airshowfreak5@aol.com>
To: <milcom@mailman.qth.net>
Cc: <Reach_Hunters@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 11:56 PM
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/9/04


> Not bad today.
>
> GOOSE-412 (CH-46) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins.  (Would return around
1455z)
> (Anyone know what unit/base this guy is from?)
>
> WOLF-01 (E-2, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to
McGhee
> Tyson (KTYS) (Would return around 1540z).
>
> COBB-50 flight of 2 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75>121.0>133.1 (A/A 239.975),
> takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Augusta (GA) (KAGS). (Would return around
1730z)
>
> PAT-121 (C-12) 120.75>121.0>126.975, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Pope
(KPOB).
>
> NAVY 7B-504 (UC-12, NAS Atlanta) 134.125, lands Dobbins.
>
> COBRA-50 (EA-6, NAF Washington) 370.875, lands Dobbins. (Would later
depart
> around 1710z, Cleared to Navy Oceana (KNTU))
>
> GATOR-11 flight of 3 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7>284.7>254.35,
> takeoff Dobbins. Cleared as filed. (Would return around 1915z)
>
> GATOR-71 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to
> Marine Beaufort (KNBC). (Would return around 1640z)
>
> RED DOG-31 flight of 2 (AH-1, NAS Atlanta) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins. (Would
> return around 1830z)
>
> WOLF-02 (E-2, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. (Would
return
> around 1910z)
>
> BACKY-51 (KC-135, Seymour-Johnson, # 62-3542) 120.75, lands Dobbins.
(Would
> later depart around 2155z)
>
> HOTCAR-21 (T-38, Moody?) 346.8, lands Dobbins. (At first I thought c/s was
> NASCAR, But sounded like HOTCAR)
>
> PAT-468 (??) 120.75>121.0>124.45, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared as filed.
(Would
> return around 2240z)
>
> COBB-84 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75>121.0>119.8, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to
> Patrick (KCOF).
>
> GATOR-55 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875, lands Dobbins.
>
> REACH-805N (C-17, Charleston, # 89-1189) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would
later
> depart around 2220z, Cleared to Charleston (KCHS).)
>
> GATOR-91 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875, lands Dobbins.
>
> ASCOT-6601 (C-17, RAF Brize Norton, # ZZ172) 120.75, lands Dobbins.
>
> DAWG-08 (C-130, GA-ANG, Savannah) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later
depart
> around 2320z, Cleared to Albany (GA) (KABY))
>
> JPAT-33 (T-6A, Randolph?) 134.125, lands Dobbins.
>
> WOLF-03 (E-2, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared
Round
> Robin. (Would return around 0055z)
>
> TEAL-28 (WC-130, Keesler) 134.125, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart
around
> 0145z, Cleared to Biloxi (Keesler) (KBIX).
>
> COOL-21 flight of 2 (T-38, Laughlin) 346.8, lands Dobbins.
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> BUCK-315 (T-?, NAS Pensacola) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 306.2>353.8, FL 210
> KILLER-11 (F-16?) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 380.35
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Adam
> Marietta,Ga
>
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From mystic at ikansas.com  Sat Jul 10 13:38:35 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Sat Jul 10 14:13:03 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 311.0 & 323.8
Message-ID: <005e01c466a9$333da280$15cb2740@u5a3b0>

1624Z - SWAMP_LIGHT (LITE) passes EAM DRFRJ5 w/ statement "more to follow,
stand-by"
1627Z - SWAMP_LIGHT (LITE) passes EAM DRHIP3 (both simulcasted on 323.8 w/
multiple male & female voices heard in the background)

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From mystic at ikansas.com  Sat Jul 10 20:40:26 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Sat Jul 10 21:44:21 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	10 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <000401c466e8$4124e7c0$15cb2740@u5a3b0>

316.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE PRIMARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
1700Z - SCALP-93 FLIGHT, check SMOKY.  Descending to BLOCK 4 - 5

134.900 (KZKC SALINA)
1639Z - GUARD-962

149.350 (138th FW OKANG; TULSA, OKLAHOMA: VICTOR-12)
1713Z - BRAVE-01 FLIGHT

304.600 (108th Aviation, Kansas Army National Guard)
1638Z - GUARD-962

286.500 (190th ARW KSANG; FORBES FIELD: WYLIE CONTROL)
2236Z - de WYLIE-86, 10 minutes out; CODE-2 w/ multiple write-ups

311.000 (COMMAND POST)
1624Z - (sounded like) SWAMP_LIGHT passes EAM DRFRJ5 w/ statement "more to
follow, stand-by"
1627Z - (sounded like) SWAMP_LIGHT passes EAM DRHIP3 (both simulcasted on
323.8 w/ multiple male & female voices heard in the background)

321.000 (COMMAND POST)
0404Z - WHITEMAN CMD POST de JOSA-307
2248Z - SHOCKER MAINT. de KANZA-99, 20 minutes out; 53K on the fuel;
write-up: IMS - inop; IPC2 - inop; EGI2 - inop & INU2 - inop

323.800 (ABN CMD POST)
1624Z - (sounded like) SWAMP_LIGHT passes EAM DRFRJ5 w/ statement "more to
follow, stand-by"
1627Z - (sounded like) SWAMP_LIGHT passes EAM DRHIP3 (both simulcasted on
311.0 w/ multiple male &female voices heard in the background)

370.100 (TACAMO)
2030Z - (WFM) voice underneath modem
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Sat Jul 10 23:02:13 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul 10 23:04:45 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/10/04
Message-ID: <134.315bf02d.2e2207b5@aol.com>

More active than your typical Saturday.

HOBBY-11 (C-130, Keesler) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart around 
1550z, Cleared to Biloxi (Keesler) (KBIX).

COBB-84 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

YANKEE-90 (KC-130, Stewart) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins.

WOLF-01 (E-2, NAS Atlanta) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

ASCOT-6601 (C-17, RAF Brize Norton, # ZZ172) 120.75>121.0>126.975, takeoff 
Dobbins. Cleared to Gander,NF (CYQX).

RED DOG-31 (AH-1, NAS Atlanta) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins.  (Round Robin 
Flight).

COBB-31 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. (Would return around 
1820z, Would later depart around 2015z, Cleared to Biloxi (Keesler) (KBIX))

GATOR-55 flight of 2 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7>254.35 (A/A 328.55), 
takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Marine Cherry Point (KNKT). (Would return around 
2035z)

GATOR-11 flight of 4 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268;7>284.7, takeoff 
Dobbins. Cleared as filed. (Would return around 1845z.)

COOL-21 flight of 2 (T-38, Laughlin) 370.875>268.7>284.7>306.2>350.325, 
takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Barksdale (KBAD).

WOLF-02 (E-2, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Augusta (GA) (KAGS). (Return Later.)

GUARD-26608 (UH-60, FL-ArNG) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

NAVY 7B-504 (UC-12, NAS Atlanta) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

GATOR-21 flight of 2 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7 (A/A 328.55), 
takeoff Dobbins. Cleared Round Robin. (Would return around 2140z)

JPAT-23 (T-6A) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins.

CENTURION-164 (DC-10, Omni Airlines, # N279AX) 120.75>121.0>125.0, takeoff 
Dobbins. Cleared to El Salvador Int'l  (MSLP).

DANDA-31 (C-17, McChord) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Calling COBB OPS (379.525) 
no joy. Calls into PTD (372.2)  has 24 pax, 10 medical personnel, 3 pallets to 
download. Rqst transportation & parking.)

Adam
Marietta,Ga
From AllanStern at aol.com  Sat Jul 10 23:31:07 2004
From: AllanStern at aol.com (AllanStern@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul 10 23:33:36 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/10/04
Message-ID: <98.f5fe028.2e220e7b@aol.com>

Airshowfreak5@aol.com writes:

> JPAT-23 (T-6A) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins.

This was JAPAT 23. I heard his comms during which he spelled his callsign.  
It seems that the T-6As have shifted their callsign from JPATS (Joint Primary 
Aircraft Trainer System) to JAPAT, perhaps so as not to be confused with the US 
Army OSACOM UC-35 callsign JPAT ### which means Jet Priority Air Transport.

AL STERN  Satellite Beach FL
From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Sun Jul 11 01:18:24 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Sun Jul 11 01:21:24 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Seattle Milcom JULY 10
Message-ID: <40F0CDA0.7030708@verizon.net>

124.800 McChord AFB Tower. REACH 9058 cleared to land
349.400 McChord CP. REACH 505 inbound
257.800 Boeing Field Tower. SHOOTER 21 and 23 landed, four F-18's
119.325 Gray AAF Tower. SONIC 83 McChord C-17 low approach
283.750 A/A but no callsigns. Talked about distance to Colorado Springs 
and cleared to Falcon. Maybe a couple of SMOKY's?

HF
9096.0 141 ARW Guard Ops. EXPO 82 inbound Fairchild AFB

Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA
Northwest Aircraft Communications
http://microvoltradio.com/

From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Sun Jul 11 01:21:54 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Sun Jul 11 01:24:21 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 10 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <1d0.25806f28.2e222872@aol.com>

Pretty busy for a Saturday.

275.80:  REDEYE-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared to Airburst Range.
275.80:  STUD-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared to Two Buttes MOA.
291.675: ROMAN-67, (F/A-18, VFA-106, Oceana), land.
289.40:  REDEYE-11, flight of 2, MARSA STUD-11 flight of 2, with Scenic 
Control for fly-by AF Academy.
239.025: REDEYE-11/STUD-11, coming off Academy fly-by and inbound to Colorado 
Springs for fly-by at the airshow there. ((Just a small one. Mostly local 
talent and warbirds))
119.90:  REDEYE/STUD flight talking to Airboss for fly-by. Then switch 
251.075 for RTB Buckley.
372.20:  JOSA-145, (C-21A), takeoff Colorado Springs.
121.00:  PAT-494, (C-26B, Buckley) land.
275.80:  REDEYE-21, flight of 2, MARSA with STUD-21, flight of 2, (F-16, 
Buckley), cleared out to Two Buttes MOA. ((Doing more fly-bys someplace))
291.675: ROMAN-11, flight of 2, (F/A-18, VFA-106, Oceana), land.
275.80:  ROMAN-11, cleared to Fallon as a single ship. 12 having some minor 
problems.
372.20:  DILLON-2, (C-21A, CO-ANG), land Colorado Springs.
372.20:  DILLON-1, (C-21A, CO-ANG), land Colorado Springs.
275.80:  ROMAN-12, (F/A-18, VFA-106, Oceana), cleared to Fallon.
298.40:  TAZZ-31, (KC-135, Grissom), calling High Country Control.
372.20:  COBB-31, (C-130, Dobbins), land Colorado Springs.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Sun Jul 11 01:46:20 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Sun Jul 11 01:48:51 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Re: KBKF: 10 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <114.3510da4b.2e222e2c@aol.com>

My TAZZ-31 reported calling High Country Control should be out of 
Rickenbacker instead of Grissom. Going to have to start posting earlier, instead of near 
bedtime.

Sandy
From courir26 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 11 08:40:48 2004
From: courir26 at yahoo.com (Tom M.)
Date: Sun Jul 11 08:43:19 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Blue Angels, Pensacola Report
Message-ID: <20040711124048.76223.qmail@web51703.mail.yahoo.com>

I attended the Pensacola Beach show last Friday.

I'd loaded all of the freqs that have been reported over the last 20 years, and
noted only these in use:

143.6 I had it programmed in AM mode, but after the show I realized it must
have been transmitted in FM as the modulation (deviation?) was much lower that
the rest of the comms, used for pre-show coordination from the beach back to
the base and to boss before the show.

265.000 Solos and four ship
284.250 Four ship and six ship

(note: I did not discover these, they were reported to me by other list
members.  I'm just confirming their use).

Never heard a thing on any of the other freqs.  No Fat Al, no other FM freqs.

I believe I was missing the main solo freq, but I did not have the facilities
to search for it.  The old PRO-60 was not up to the task.

Anyway, I've concluded that the Blues have re-farmed their freqs.  Toss out the
old lists.

We also visited the Blue's base and chatted with a couple of the pilots
(terminally polite guys).  The Blues had 11 F-18s visible outside the closed
hangar.  There were three No. 7 ships and two ships with no numbers. They were
preparing seven ships for the show that day.

Also saw three agressor F-5s, one black, painted with a Russian looking No. 25
and a red star on the tail.

73 Tom
Lafayette, LA





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From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Sun Jul 11 11:25:46 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Sun Jul 11 11:28:26 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Charleston AFB Logs 10 July 04
Message-ID: <01ca01c4675b$576fb500$5fd94fd8@Marks>

349.400 Charleston CP
------------------------
REACH 7048
REACH 9744
REACH 805E
LIFTER 35
REACH 939 inbound 1942z, A2, 1 PAX


243.000 MAD
----------------
JAX CTR for GUNFIGHTER 4


279.725 Doubleshot
---------------------
MACE 31 (F-16CJ, 157 FS)


157.050 USCG
-----------------
CG 6551 (HH-65B)



Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
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From mystic at ikansas.com  Sun Jul 11 12:02:52 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Sun Jul 11 12:08:32 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Randolph Inbound
Message-ID: <000201c46760$f7661400$2dcb2740@u5a3b0>

375.200 (KIAB METRO)
1556Z - GATOR-56 rqst forecast for RND @ 1800Z
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W
From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Sun Jul 11 12:22:53 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Sun Jul 11 12:25:31 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Re: [Reach Hunters] Randolph Inbound
References: <000201c46760$f7661400$2dcb2740@u5a3b0>
Message-ID: <01f101c46763$52545be0$5fd94fd8@Marks>

GATOR 88 was up on 13927 kHz where he reported a 1330 local ETA to Randolph.


Mark

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: GG 
  Subject: [Reach Hunters] Randolph Inbound


  375.200 (KIAB METRO)
  1556Z - GATOR-56 rqst forecast for RND @ 1800Z
From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Sun Jul 11 16:00:08 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Sun Jul 11 16:03:00 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF Logs 10 July 04
Message-ID: <029801c46781$b2eb6570$5fd94fd8@Marks>

 [11:45:55][FRQ 11226000][TO ][ADW            ][TIS][491710         ][AL0] BER 30 SN 12 

 [11:46:45][FRQ 11226000][TO ][CRO            ][TIS][491710         ][AL0] BER 23 SN 06
 
 [11:47:08][FRQ 11226000][TO ][GTL            ][TIS][491710         ][AL0] BER 27 SN 08 

[11:47:32][FRQ 11226000][TO ][GUA            ][TIS][491710         ][AL0] BER 29 SN 08 followed by REACH 9710 (KC-10A, 305 AMW) making callouts and wkg unheard station

1218Z    8971.0    ANDVT followed by test counts

1223Z    13927.0    REACH 5007 morale p/p via AFA2HF Florida followed by request for patch to Dover CP

[16:30:39][FRQ  9025000][TO ][290058         ][TWS][ADW            ][AL0] BER 30 SN 12 

1717Z    11205.0    EVERGREEN 422 check-in with SMASHER


ALE addresses monitored on USAF ALE: 290058, 491710, ADW, AED, CRO, GTL, GUA, HIK, JNR, OFF, RIC, RSC

ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: 501, A97, C50, CS1, CS3, CS4, CS6, CS9, D69, D70, F12, I08, I14, I57, I75, J42, M51, OPB, PAC, PNR400, TSC, X61

ALE addresses monitored on FBI/PANTHER Nets: AT1, CL1, CO1, ME1, OM2, PNR400, QT1, QT2, WF1




Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
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http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From jlmetcalfe at direcway.com  Sun Jul 11 17:39:43 2004
From: jlmetcalfe at direcway.com (Jack L. Metcalfe)
Date: Sun Jul 11 17:42:04 2004
Subject: [MilCom] New 2450 mAh AA batteries
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040711172844.01bccec0@pop3.direcway.com>

For hand held scanner users, here are some details on Lenmar's new 2450 mAh 
AA batteries and other
manufacturer's 2300-2400 mAh products:

http://www.nimhbattery.com/new-products.htm
-------------------
Jack L. Metcalfe
Stanford, KY
jlmetcalfe@direcway.com
-------------------


From kc8mzm at bellsouth.net  Sun Jul 11 20:16:18 2004
From: kc8mzm at bellsouth.net (Mike Riffle)
Date: Sun Jul 11 20:18:56 2004
Subject: [MilCom] West Georgia logs 10-11 Jul 04
Message-ID: <40F1D852.5040904@bellsouth.net>

10 JULY
-------

[119.05 LAWSON AAF TOWER]
  HOOKER 14 (CH-47) arrival

[139.3 TYNDALL DISPATCH]
  1350z JEDI 01 (C-141?) inbound, rqst 30k fuel (possible tail #40633)

[255.4 FSS]
  2320z OTIS 14 (KC-130) passing ETA to Keesler

[343.75 BULLDOG MOA]
  1400z HEAT 1-2 (F-16) 141.925 a/a

[372.2 DISPATCH]
  0056z TEAL 28 (WC-130) inbound Dobbins
  1512z HOBBY 11 (C-130) inbound Dobbins
  1528z COBB 84 (C-130) phone patch to Dobbins to find out about their cargo
  1604z HOBBY 13 (C-130) inbound Robins

[379.525 COBB OPS]
  1543z COBB 84 (C-130) inbound Dobbins

[ARTCC]
  COOL 21-22  (T-38)   299.2>353.8 - 299.5 a/a
  COOL 85     (T-38)   354.05>319.1>307.2
  CUTLASS 11  (T-37)   250.25
  CUTLASS 16  (T-37)   270.25
  CUTLASS 20  (T-37)   250.25
  CUTLASS 22  (T-37)   360.75 363.025
  CUTLASS 33  (T-37)   279.6 363.025
  CUTLASS 34  (T-37)   363.025
  GATOR 11-13 (F/A-18) 284.7>254.35>323.0 - 344.4 a/a
  GATOR 21-22 (F/A-18) 254.35 - 328.55 a/a
  VIPER 41-42 (F-16)   323.0 - 125.125 a/a

11 JULY
-------

[119.05 LAWSON AAF TOWER]
  ARMY 26595 (UH-60)
  HOOKER 14  (CH-47)

[122.85 DISPATCH]
  2228z PAT 646 inbound to Maxwell?

[249.5 FT BENNING SKYWATCH]
  ARMY 373 (UH-1) medevac hoist ops
  ARMY 26594 (UH-60 x2)
  ARMY 26595 (UH-60 x4)
  HOOKER 14 (CH-47) range orientation
  HOOKER 23 (#70112 CH-47)
  *everybody using common 139.375 a/a

[251.25 HURLBURT CP]
  1559z HURLBURT 92 (C-130 type?) inbound

[255.4 FSS]
  2236z DAWG 08 (C-130) departed Albany, enr Dobbins

[311.0 CP]
  0027z WOODEN 52 (KC-?) inbound Robins
  2244z TANKER 71 (KC-135?)inbound Robins

[340.2 NAS ATLANTA OPS]
  1304z EASY 344 (UC-35) inbound for pax pickup

[344.6 METRO]
  2117z NAVY WB387 (?) rqst current conditions at NAS Jacksonville, NAS
        Pensacola, MacDill, and Eglin

[349.4 CHARLESTON CP]
  2220z BASCO 38 (C-17) inbound

[372.2 DISPATCH]
  2227z TEAL 27 (WC-130) inbound Dobbins

[374.55 WBFM]
  1830-1931z voice and data
       1932z dialtone, 2 rings, then a "oop"
  1933-1945z intermittent data
  2015-2100z data

[ARTCC]
  ARMY 24380  (C-12)   128.725 125.575
  BUCK 714    (T-34)   380.225
  CAJUN 21-2? (A-10)   297.4 - 139.825 a/a
  FAST 51     (T-38)   307.15>350.325
  GATOR 11-12 (F/A-18) 254.35>323.0 - 328.55 a/a
  GATOR 21-2# (F/A-18) 268.7>254.35 - 328.55 a/a
  GATOR 51    (F/A-18) 381.55
  GATOR 52    (F/A-18) 285.4
  HOTCAR 21   (T-38)   268.7>284.7>360.75
  JAZZ 69     (F-15?)  371.95>269.1 direct Langley - 384.55 a/a
  KILLER? 5   (?)      306.25>307.0>354.05 (terrible transmitter!)
  NAVY 3E42#  (?)      279.6>323.1
  POISON 40   (T-38)   291.65
  REACH 387   (?)      125.575
  TALON 41    (T-45)   316.05
  VALOR 61    (T-37)   261.5

Mike Riffle
Cataula, GA
milcom - http://www.qsl.net/kc8mzm
photos - http://www.pbase.com/mriffle/aviation

From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Sun Jul 11 20:16:57 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Sun Jul 11 20:45:48 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Charleston AFB Logs 11 July 04
Message-ID: <036e01c467a9$35e6f940$5fd94fd8@Marks>

349.400 Charleston CP
------------------------
REACH 2099 inbound 1125z, A2 for nose gear
GRITS 10
SHARK 80 (C-130) inbound 1748z
REACH 387 (C-17A) inbound 1833z, A1, 5 pallets
REACH 6004
REACH 805S
REACH 805N


157.050 USCG
------------------
CG 6524 (HH-65B)
CG 6551 (HH-65B)




Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
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https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Sun Jul 11 20:40:51 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Sun Jul 11 20:45:59 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF Logs 11 July 04
Message-ID: <037001c467a9$3a393c60$5fd94fd8@Marks>

0014Z    11232.0    CANFORCE 3959 wkg TRENTON MILITARY for WX at Shannon followed by Selcal check

0019Z    11232.0    CANFORCE 4332 closing watch with TRENTON MILITARY

0139Z    11175.0    THUNDERBIRD 14 p/p via Puerto Rico HF-GCS to TACC to pass message to T-Bird Coordinator their ETA to BGM (Binghamton, NY) of 2320 local

1128Z    5696.0    Y6B airborne from Miami requests guard from CAMSLANT

1217Z    8912.0    60A position report to PANTHER. Bearing 085, 27 miles from benchmark

1335Z    8337.6    SITOR-A

1352Z    5696.0    CG 2140 (HU-25, CGAS Cape Cod) requests guard from CAMSLANT

1519Z    13927.0    GATOR 88 p/p via AFA2HF Florida to 210-XXX-XXXX and 830-XXX-XXXX to pass 1330 local ETA to Randolph AFB

1639Z    13927.0    REACH 4633 p/p via AFA1EN Indiana to 609-XXX-XXXX New Jersey to report they are airborne with 1845z ETA


ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: 706, C50, CS1, CS3, CS6, CS9, D43, D69, D70, J03, J25, J32, J38, LNT, OPB, X60

ALE addresses monitored on FBI/PANTHER Nets: AT1, ME1, PNR400, QT1, QT2, SL1, WF1




Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
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https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Sun Jul 11 22:03:36 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Sun Jul 11 22:06:15 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 11 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <163.31d288b8.2e234b78@aol.com>

Pretty slow Sunday. 

275.80:  ROMAN-67, (F/A-18C, VFA-106, Oceana), cleared to Fallon.
239.025: SHARK-11, (?A-10, Pope?), land Colorado Springs.
239.025: RAIDER-96, (F/A-18, VFA-125, Lemoore), land Colorado Springs. Later 
heard westbound with Denver Center on 319.00, FL 390. Switched 323.25.
372.20:  SMOKY-18, (C-21A, Peterson), takeoff Colorado Springs.
372.20:  SMOKY-34, (C-21A, Peterson), takeoff Colorado Springs.
239.025: VAMPIRE-21, (F/A-18, VX-9, China Lake), land Colorado Springs.
377.05:  TALON-85, (T-45, Meridian), with Denver Center, FL 370. Requesting 
climb to 410 for WX.
((NOTE: the VX-9 Det at Point Mugu is going out of business. All its F-14's 
are being retired. Doesn't appear they will be replaced with "F" Model Super 
Hornets at this point. Main VX-9 squadron at China Lake isn't affected))

Sandy
Denver, CO
From rcstewa at comcast.net  Sun Jul 11 23:15:16 2004
From: rcstewa at comcast.net (rcstewa)
Date: Sun Jul 11 23:18:36 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Blue Dolphin at WillowGrove JRB
Message-ID: <055e01c467be$7493b1a0$53715044@benslm01.pa.comcast.net>

I was coming out of the PX at Willow Grove when I couldnt help noticing the F-18 that wasnt there the last    time I was there. AF-300 from Atlanta JRB now sits next to an F-14 they have had. The only thing wrong is that the  Bureau number has been removed and there is no trace of it. Adam do you know the Bureau number of AF -300?      Bob Along the Delaware            
From mystic at ikansas.com  Sun Jul 11 23:30:39 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Sun Jul 11 23:35:41 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	11 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <001101c467c0$e28ba1c0$69cb2740@u5a3b0>

316.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE PRIMARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
1450Z - HAMMER-01 (ABN FAC) w/ ROUGE-01 & ROUGE-02 as well as w/ RANGER &
SAND_HOG
1536Z - NASTY-01 (ABN FAC) w/ RATTER-01 & RATTER-02

363.200 (KZKC SALINA)
1527Z - NASTY-01 & RATTER-01 FLIGHT
1540Z - ROUGE-01 FLIGHT VFR 15.5 off to the east; HAMMER-01 @ 17.5 direct
WHITEMAN
1554Z - NASTY-01
1555Z - RATTER-01 FLIGHT rqst 11000

343.700 (KZKC TOPEKA)
1601Z - RATTER-01 FLIGHT & NASTY-01 checking in
1751Z - FAST-51

296.600 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
2209Z - 2736 for VAMPIRE-21

273.600 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
2210Z - VAMPIRE-21 checking in

134.900 (KZKC SALINA)
1934Z - JOSA-624 descending
1943Z - SMOKY-18 cleared to FORBES
2223Z - DEXTER-51 accepts MARSA w/ DEXTER-52 to conduct refueling opns &
associated manuevering
within the confines of ADA MOA

123.800 (KZKC TOPEK)
1804Z - WYLIE-72, cancel IFR
1805Z - WYLIE-73

128.750 (KZMP LINCOLN)
1704Z - de NAVY 7D866, are you painting any weather btwn us & LINCOLN?

324.400 (AR-653)
2222Z - DEXTER-51 co-ordination w/ DEXTER-52 to conduct SIMULATED AR OPNS
within the confines of ADA MOA

228.925 (VANCE AFB T-1A A-2-A)
2250Z - PAIN-11 conducting SIMULATED AR OPNS w/ PAIN-12

138.400 (442nd FW; WHITEMAN AFB: VICTOR-??)
1512Z - HAMMER-01 w/ ROUGE-01 FLIGHT

139.800 (442nd FW; WHITEMAN AFB: VICTOR-??)
1545Z - NASTY-01 w/RATTER-01 FLIGHT

127.450 ( ______ )
1840Z - ___ de ____; is Doug _____ still the CDR down there?   He was my
co-pilot about 20 years ago

149.350 (138th FW OKANG; TULSA, OKLAHOMA: VICTOR-12)
1846Z - BRAVE-01 & BRAVE-02

149.400 (138th FW OKANG; TULSA, OKLAHOMA: VICTOR-14)
1846Z - LOCO-01 & LOCO-02

375.200 (KIAB METRO)
1556Z - GATOR-56 rqst forecast for RND @ 1800Z

364.200 (AICC)
1618Z - WYLIE CONTROL de (sounded like) WYLIE-31

303.100 (AWACS A-2-A)
1629Z - WYLIE-72
1634Z - THUMPER de WYLIE-72, can we do a HAVE QUICK check today?
1726Z - THUMPER de WYLIE-73
1730Z - SCOUT-13, next AR 1745Z

341.750 (AUTOTOD)
1731Z - active ((question is for whom?  Wylie?))

286.500 (190th ARW KSANG; FORBES FIELD: WYLIE CONTROL)
1622Z - WYLIE-72 take-off time 1615Z

321.000 (COMMAND POST)
1627Z - REACH-418

381.300 (COMMAND POST)
1727Z - RAYMOND-24 recieves status rpt fm SCOUT-13
1736Z - TINKER METRO de SCOUT-13, unreadable. Rqst RAYMOND-24 relay for you
as can hear her but not you.  RAYMOND-24 passes weather for TINKER to
SCOUT-13

374.550 (TACAMO)
2220Z (WFM) steady high pitched tone

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Sun Jul 11 23:33:28 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Sun Jul 11 23:36:11 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/11/04
Message-ID: <149.2dc15d71.2e236088@aol.com>

Active day once again.

GATOR-31 flight of 2 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

GOOSE-404 (CH-46, NAS Norfolk) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins.

OKIE-42 (KC-135, Tinker, # 58-0051) 134.125, lands Dobbins. (Would later 
depart around 1835z, Cleared to Tinker (KTIK).)

COBB-84 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

WOLF-01 (E-2, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Knoxville (KTYS). (Would return around 1855z)

NAVY HP-445 (HH/SH-60, NS Mayport) 346.8, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart 
around 1850z)

WOLF-02 (E-2, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to McGhee 
Tyson (KTYS). (Would return around 1820z)

DANDA-31 (C-17, McChord, # 02-1105) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
McChord (KTCM).

GATOR-51 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7>284.7, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared 
to Bulldog MOA.

GATOR-21 flight of 2 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7>254.35, takeoff 
Dobbins. Cleared to Marine Beaufort (KNBC)

GATOR-52 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7>284.7>306.2, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared to Monroe (LA) (KMLU).

CAJUN-20 flight of 3 (A-10, NAS JRB New Orleans) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

HOTCAR-21 (T-38, Moody) 370.875>268.7>284.7, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Robins (KWRB).

BACKY-71 (KC-135, Seymour-Johnson) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart 
around 2240z, Cleared to Seymour-Johnson (KGSB))

TEAL-27 (WC-130, Keesler) 134.125, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart around 
2310z, Cleared to MacDill (KMCF))

COBB-31 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

DAWG-08 (C-130, GA-ANG, Savannah) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart 
around 2325z, Cleared to Savannah (KSAV))

REACH-805N (C-17, Charleston, # 89-1189) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (12 Pax 
drop-off). (Would later depart around 0120z, Cleared to Charleston (KCHS).)

RIVER-32 (F/A-18, NAS JRB New Orleans) 346.8, lands Dobbins.
----------------------------------------
BASCO-38 (C-17, Charleston) calling Charleston Metro (344.6) no reply.
BASCO-38 (C-17, Charleston) Calling Charleston CP (349.4) ETA is  2245z
NAVY 3E-832 (T-34?, NAS Pensacola) w/ FSS (255.4) activating fltplan from 
KPDK to KNSE.
----------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga
From swm.msn at verizon.net  Sun Jul 11 23:37:21 2004
From: swm.msn at verizon.net (swm239)
Date: Sun Jul 11 23:39:47 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Re: Volk open house
References: <055e01c467be$7493b1a0$53715044@benslm01.pa.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <021d01c467c1$8a5cc0a0$6501a8c0@dslverizon.net>

Hello all,  Had the chance to go to Volk Field in central WI for their open
house and fly in.
The following were on hand:

F 18C  "AD" on tail and VFA 106 on the side ser # 164205 and Team Gladiator
on the fuel tank as well as Navy on the side and # 307 on the nose.
He left early and used callsign Roman 67
E 3B AWACS from Tinker OK  Had OK on the tail and # of 77-0351
KC 135 from Milwaukee with # of 61-0298
F 18F Super Hornet with "XE" on the tail and VX 9 on the side, ser # 165804
and Vampires on the side as well as 200 on the nose and 00 on the tail.
He left late afternoon and used callsign Vampire 21
C 12 R from Fort McCoy with ser # 50097
C 26 from Madison with ser # 10503
F 4 with "HO" on the tail and ser # 72-176 - from Holloman
F 16 C from 132nd FW at Des Moines IA ser # 89-0219 notation of Wing
Commanders plane.  Also saw reference to additional tail's from DSM of:
85-482 & 85-562
C-130 from 440th in Milwaukee with ser # 50042.  Left mid afternoon and used
Sweet 40 as callsign
Also 2 UH 60 Blackhawks from the 147th at Madison using Lance 50 flight
Also had fly by's from Lobo 41, 42, 43 (South Dakota F-16's from Sioux
Falls)

Sweet 40 did several passes and dropped a skid off at midfield.  One of the
UH 60's then went out and picked it up and brought it back in.
Another UH 60 did a SAR drill for everyone to observe.
Had several ACMI demonstrations that lasted almost 1 hour, with great action
from a actual sortie by 8 F 16's from Madison.
All in all it was a great day, first open house there in 4 years so it was
good to get back on base and see what all has changed.

Scott


From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Sun Jul 11 23:43:41 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Sun Jul 11 23:46:22 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Blue Dolphin at WillowGrove JRB
Message-ID: <1a4.2619c170.2e2362ed@aol.com>

Bob,

After a quick search on Scramble, Here's the two possibilities;

162868      AF-300      F/A-18A     407/A339    VFA-203 ex      w/o     sep96 
    jan02   w/o 16jan02     
163150      AF-300      F/A-18A     573/A480    VFA-203     act     mar04   
mar04         

(Only VFA-203 BuNO I know off hand is 163101 which is a VMFA-142 jet now.) 

Taking a shot into the dark, I'd guess 163150 is the jet you saw.

I heard a while back WG has a VFA-203 jet,  Is AF-300 the only Dolphin you 
know of on display or is there another one?

Adam
Marietta,Ga
From audiodave1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 12 00:35:18 2004
From: audiodave1 at yahoo.com (David Howden)
Date: Mon Jul 12 00:38:01 2004
Subject: [MilCom] DE logs
Message-ID: <20040712043518.52898.qmail@web41501.mail.yahoo.com>

Been too busy to listen much lately.....
Some recent logs,
Lots of CAP activity

 138.0 Uid A-A

228.0 Hagar 70 AR work

228.4 Chevy21 clng uid

228.9 Huntress, USCG training (CG6527), Harass, Tanker
##, Omaha 01, Chevy##, Cosmics. (Senator CAP)

238.1 Harass## W386 AR

243.0 Harass##, 2E046

252.1 Cindy 01?

262.0 Slam21 clng Bantam36 

271.0 Huntress, Spiders>387.0

277.4 Ravage

282.425 Omaha01 clng Thor

312.3 GK, Dragnet N

314.2 Huntress, Uid Ac >228.0

320.6 AR Boom freq, Tan ker##, Harass##

321.0 Uid AC w/ AR coord.

324.0 Huntress, AR ops, Chevy##

340.2 WGNAS w/ Flyer##

341.75 AR Primary (W??? off NJ coast) Ethol## wkng
Reach ##

349.5 AC clng Norfolk ATAC? 

354.8 Bully, WB106 clng ops (PAX)

357.1 Harass ## wkng CP

362.3 Huntress, CAP ops freq w/ Harass##, Cosmics

362.6 PAX App w/ BUG92 

364.8 Huntress, Comet## returning from WArrne Grove?

372.2 Josa242 diverting b/c fuel problem

385.5 "Contact KDOV Approach" ??

385.9 MDNG Crab ops w/ Crab56 :20 out

387.8 AR Boom freq (NY CAP) w/ Spider##

Dave












	
		
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From domyers at voicenet.com  Mon Jul 12 07:21:20 2004
From: domyers at voicenet.com (Dan Myers)
Date: Mon Jul 12 07:25:39 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Blue Dolphin at WillowGrove JRB
In-Reply-To: <1a4.2619c170.2e2362ed@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040712071927.039704f0@popmail.voicenet.com>

I believe the F/A-18 at KNXX is from VMFA-321.  If Dan Teker sees this 
message he may respond. He would know.
Dan
Horsham, Pa

From subklaxon at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 12 11:00:55 2004
From: subklaxon at yahoo.com (Scott)
Date: Mon Jul 12 11:03:36 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Thunderbirds AR over Illinois
Message-ID: <20040712150055.55026.qmail@web12209.mail.yahoo.com>

The Thunderbirds are currently about to refuel over
Central IL.  They are on their way back to Nellis from
somewhere.  Keep an ear out.  They were on UHF 295.8,
but went back to VHF.

Heads up Springfield IL.  You might have a surprise on
your ramp.

Scott


	
		
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From glenniec at bellsouth.net  Mon Jul 12 11:01:50 2004
From: glenniec at bellsouth.net (A. Glen Childress)
Date: Mon Jul 12 11:04:55 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Blue Dolphin at WillowGrove JRB
References: <1a4.2619c170.2e2362ed@aol.com>
Message-ID: <40F2A7DE.000001.02044@MECOFFICE>

Adam posted

"Taking a shot into the dark, I'd guess 163150 is the jet you saw."

I would probably agree with Adam here.  Everyone needs to remember that
VFA-203 and VFA-201 switched aircraft about two years ago.  Not long after
that 201 went to Iraq and 203 stayed here.  For that reason it has been a
little more difficult to keep up with them.  I have some pictures of jet 300
at home I took at last years Change of Command for 203.  I will look and see
if I can find out tonight.
 
 
 
A. Glen "Glennie" Childress
Anderson SC.
 
http://www.photobuilders.com/sortie/sortie.html military aviation photo's
http://www.robertlundquist.com/ aviation artwork for sale
http://www.baddude.com military aviation shirts
http://www.av8rstuff.com military aviation patches.
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Airshowfreak5@aol.com
Date: 07/11/04 23:43:53
To: rcstewa@comcast.net
Cc: MilCom@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [MilCom] Blue Dolphin at WillowGrove JRB
 
Bob,
 
After a quick search on Scramble, Here's the two possibilities;
 
162868 AF-300 F/A-18A 407/A339 VFA-203 ex w/o sep96
jan02 w/o 16jan02
163150 AF-300 F/A-18A 573/A480 VFA-203 act mar04
mar04
 
(Only VFA-203 BuNO I know off hand is 163101 which is a VMFA-142 jet now.)
 
Taking a shot into the dark, I'd guess 163150 is the jet you saw.
 
I heard a while back WG has a VFA-203 jet, Is AF-300 the only Dolphin you
know of on display or is there another one?
 
Adam
Marietta,Ga
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From av8tor at flash.net  Mon Jul 12 12:11:46 2004
From: av8tor at flash.net (GeorgeF.)
Date: Mon Jul 12 12:17:03 2004
Subject: [MilCom] =?iso-8859-1?q?Heads_Up_Avon=85=2E?=
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040712121124.02208650@pop.flash.yahoo.com>



Been listening to LANCER flight working Jacksonville Center 
(307.2500),  Flight plan is to Ormond Beach then to Avon
. That was heard 
at 1200.

George
http://www.MilAirComms.com

From w2ec at attglobal.net  Mon Jul 12 12:28:44 2004
From: w2ec at attglobal.net (Ray, W2EC)
Date: Mon Jul 12 12:31:22 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Thunderbirds AR over Illinois
References: <20040712150055.55026.qmail@web12209.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <40F2BC3C.6050703@attglobal.net>

Actually, yesterday was a really great day for the Thunderbirds, and me!

They were performing at the Binghamton, NY (BGM) air show and since I 
live only a short distance from the airport, and on top of a "mountain" 
at nearly the same MSL as BGM, I have a direct line of sight to the 
airport. So I sat on my front deck with a couple cold beers and my 
scanner, watching and listening to the whole show in comfort. At times 
they flew right over my house! Outstanding performance!!!!

73, Ray

Scott wrote:

> The Thunderbirds are currently about to refuel over
> Central IL.  They are on their way back to Nellis from
> somewhere.  Keep an ear out.  They were on UHF 295.8,
> but went back to VHF.
> 
> Heads up Springfield IL.  You might have a surprise on
> your ramp.
> 
> Scott
> 
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From mystic at ikansas.com  Mon Jul 12 15:49:28 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Mon Jul 12 15:52:54 2004
Subject: [MilCom] AIR_EVAC-7012 Enroute Travis
Message-ID: <000201c46849$6f5bb940$25cb2740@u5a3b0>

311.000 (COMMAND POST)
1931Z - RAYMOND-21 w/ AIR_EVAC-7012 (C-141; 70012)
told to switch to 321.0 for pp to DSN 837-5517 (TRAVIS CMD POST) ((freq
still blocked by loud squeal as they described it)) & RAYMOND-21 relayed
7012's ETA - 2230Z, status (ALPHA-1); offload: 7 litter patients, ?? amb.;
15 paxs, 2 med attendants & 5 flight crew to TRAVIS.  Will be staying the
nite

127.650 (KZDV COLBY
1944Z - AIR_EVAC-7012 checking in
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73
walt
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From kstein at erols.com  Mon Jul 12 17:13:54 2004
From: kstein at erols.com (Keith Stein)
Date: Mon Jul 12 17:20:49 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Radar Data Collection Flights
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20040712171138.00a30050@pop.erols.com>

The Department of Defense will conduct a series of radar data collection 
flights over the National Capital Region during the week of 12-16 July in 
coordination with the Federal Aviation Administration.

The flights will involve low flying aircraft, a Cessna 206 and a Twin Otter 
airplane flying along the Potomac River, and the greater Washington D.C. 
metro area. The purpose of these flights is to obtain radar data from a 
variety of aircraft in and around the National Capital Region.

Citizens throughout the region may hear aircraft noise at various times and 
see these aircraft as they fly routes similar to normal Washington D.C. air 
traffic. The impact of these flights will be relatively minor to commercial 
aircraft, and all flights will be conducted in accordance with FAA and 
NORAD standards.


From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Mon Jul 12 22:07:13 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Mon Jul 12 22:10:02 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 12 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <1d5.25e0f666.2e249dd1@aol.com>

Typical Monday.

275.80:  BAMA-11, flight of 4, (F-16, AL-ANG), cleared to Wright-Patt.
372.20:  JOSA-377, (C-21A), takeoff Colorado Springs.
372.20:  CONGO-65, (UV-18, AF Academy) trying to contact CONGO-64. Is having 
unk problems and still hasn't dropped his jumpers.
319.00:  THUNDERBIRD-1, (F-16 Nellis), with Denver Center, FL 390.
121.00:  PAT-411, (Unk), land; then on to Colorado Springs.
289.40:  DIXIE-71, (KC-135, AL-ANG), with Scenic Control. Holding over Garden 
of the Gods for the AF Academy fly-by. Is worried about lightning and will 
cancel fly-by if it doesn't let up in 20 minutes. Did fly-by and supposedly 
recovered at Colorado Springs. Didn't hear him.
372.20:  JOSA-203, (C-21A), cancel gas stop for Colorado Springs. Will go 
direct Scott. Call C-21 Ops at TACC and let them know. 
372.20:  JOSA-435, (C-21A, Peterson), land Colorado Springs.
372.20:  JOSA-427, (C-21A, Peterson), land Colorado Springs.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From baycomm at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 12 22:28:53 2004
From: baycomm at earthlink.net (Greg Brazil)
Date: Mon Jul 12 22:31:24 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Thunderbirds AR over Illinois
In-Reply-To: <40F2BC3C.6050703@attglobal.net>
References: <20040712150055.55026.qmail@web12209.mail.yahoo.com>
	<40F2BC3C.6050703@attglobal.net>
Message-ID: <40F348E5.7050709@earthlink.net>

What about a report of what you heard & frequencies used?
Greg (SF Bay Area)

Ray, W2EC wrote:

> Actually, yesterday was a really great day for the Thunderbirds, and me!
> 
> They were performing at the Binghamton, NY (BGM) air show and since I 
> live only a short distance from the airport, and on top of a "mountain" 
> at nearly the same MSL as BGM, I have a direct line of sight to the 
> airport. So I sat on my front deck with a couple cold beers and my 
> scanner, watching and listening to the whole show in comfort. At times 
> they flew right over my house! Outstanding performance!!!!
> 
> 73, Ray
> 
> Scott wrote:
> 
>> The Thunderbirds are currently about to refuel over
>> Central IL.  They are on their way back to Nellis from
>> somewhere.  Keep an ear out.  They were on UHF 295.8,
>> but went back to VHF.
>>
>> Heads up Springfield IL.  You might have a surprise on
>> your ramp.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>     
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From wb9omc at nlci.com  Mon Jul 12 22:51:31 2004
From: wb9omc at nlci.com (Duane Mantick)
Date: Mon Jul 12 22:52:33 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Blue Angels, Pensacola Report
In-Reply-To: <20040711124048.76223.qmail@web51703.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000701c46884$4d366a00$7a6040ce@nlci.com>

Very interesting.  Hopefully anyone else on the list
with fresh B.A. freqs. will post them here so that
all the show go-ers with scanners can re-program and
listen in.  (likewise for any T-birds freqs for this
year)

Duane


> -----Original Message-----
> From: milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Tom M.
> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 7:41 AM
> To: milcom@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [MilCom] Blue Angels, Pensacola Report
> 
> 
> I attended the Pensacola Beach show last Friday.
> 
> I'd loaded all of the freqs that have been reported over the last 
> 20 years, and
> noted only these in use:
> 
> 143.6 I had it programmed in AM mode, but after the show I 
> realized it must
> have been transmitted in FM as the modulation (deviation?) was 
> much lower that
> the rest of the comms, used for pre-show coordination from the 
> beach back to
> the base and to boss before the show.
> 
> 265.000 Solos and four ship
> 284.250 Four ship and six ship
> 
> (note: I did not discover these, they were reported to me by other list
> members.  I'm just confirming their use).
> 
> Never heard a thing on any of the other freqs.  No Fat Al, no 
> other FM freqs.
> 
> I believe I was missing the main solo freq, but I did not have 
> the facilities
> to search for it.  The old PRO-60 was not up to the task.
> 
> Anyway, I've concluded that the Blues have re-farmed their freqs. 
>  Toss out the
> old lists.
> 
> We also visited the Blue's base and chatted with a couple of the pilots
> (terminally polite guys).  The Blues had 11 F-18s visible outside 
> the closed
> hangar.  There were three No. 7 ships and two ships with no 
> numbers. They were
> preparing seven ships for the show that day.
> 
> Also saw three agressor F-5s, one black, painted with a Russian 
> looking No. 25
> and a red star on the tail.
> 
> 73 Tom
> Lafayette, LA
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Mon Jul 12 23:19:07 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Mon Jul 12 23:21:58 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/12/04
Message-ID: <145.2e14d44e.2e24aeab@aol.com>

Not alot happening, but active for a Monday.

NAVY 7B-504 (UC-12, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0>119.8, takeoff Dobbins. (Would 
return around 1805z)

COBB-50 flight of 3 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75>121.0>133.1>134.8, takeoff 
Dobbins. (Would return around 1745z)

BRACE-03 (F/A-18) 370.875>268.7>284.7>350.325, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Randolph (KRND). (Would return around 2145z)

COBB-30 (C-130, Dobbins) 134.125, (Shot around seven approaches then back 
in.)

NAVY JS-119 (C-9, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0, takeof Dobbins. Cleared to Navy 
Norfolk (KNGU). (Would return around 1755z, Would later depart, Cleared to 
Huntsville (KHSV), Would return around 0205z, Would later depart around 0300z, 
Cleared to Charleston (KCHS))

LOCKHEED-5501 (WC-130J, Keesler, # 99-5309) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared Round Robin. (Would return around 1825z)

ARMY-90104 (UC-35) 120.75>121.0>125.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Greensboro 
(NC) (KGSO).

ARMY-90103 (UC-35, 2-228th AVN) 120.75>121.0>125.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared 
to  Greensboro (NC) (KGSO).

WOLF-01 (E-2, NAS Atlanra) 120.75>121.0>126.975, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Augusta (GA) (KAGS). (Would return around 1820z)

JOSA-435 (C-21, Peterson) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart around 
1840z, Cleared to Colorado Springs (KCOS).)

GATOR-51 flight (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875 (A/A 328.55), lands Dobbins.

PAT-187 (C-23) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart around 2200z, 
Cleared to Dothan (KDHN))

RED DOG-21 (AH-1, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Montgomery (KMGM). (RED DOG-22 departs for KMGM about 10mins later.)

RED DOG-11 flight of 2 (UH-1, Dobbins) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins.
-----------------------------
?DIRK?-11 flight (F-16?) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 236.7, Block 210- 260.
JOSA-303 (C-21, # 84-0079) calling Maxwell Dispatch (372.2) 4 pax to offload, 
rqst 4k lbs of fuel. ETA 1720z.
----------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga
"VFA-203 Forever"
From mystic at ikansas.com  Tue Jul 13 00:17:20 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Tue Jul 13 00:20:53 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	12 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <000b01c46890$64cdba40$93cb2740@u5a3b0>

316.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE PRIMARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
1550Z - (sounded like) SCALP-93
1947Z - CHOPPER-43? is off

363.200 (KZKC SALINA)
1756Z - DUKE-11 rqst FL 230
1927Z - LODER-91 accepts MARSA w/ LODER-92 to conduct SIMULATED AR OPNS &
manuevering within the confines of ADOBE AR;   switching to discrete freq.

296.600 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
1225Z - CZAR-81 (inconsiderate yoyo!)

134.900 (KZKC SALINA)
1554Z - JAYHAWK-22 FLIGHT
1642Z - JOSA-377, direct FORBES
1643Z - WYLIE-11, direct FORBES

133.925 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
1942Z - AIR_EVAC-7012 de KC CENTRE, contact KZDV on 2765

123.800 (KZKC TOPEKA)
1647Z - WYLIE-11, rqst visual 13; & JOSA-377 checking in for descent into
FORBES

135.900 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
1951Z - ROUGE-02

127.650 (KZDV COLBY
1944Z - AIR_EVAC-7012 checking in

353.900 (BISON & ADA MOA)
1959Z - LODER-91 w/ LODER-92

228.925 (VANCE AFB T-1A A-2-A)
2026Z - PAIN-11 conducting SIMULATED AR OPNS & manuevers w/ PAIN-12

305.500 (AR-330)
1703Z - JAYHAWK-?? conducts random AR OPNS w/ TUFF-18;  TUFF-18 contact KZDV
on  379.15

326.200 (KEND APP)
2150Z - BISON-71
2153Z - BISON-21 w/ AC power failure

227.400 (KOFF METRO)
1928Z - AIR_EVAC-7012 calz w/ NO JOY
2345Z - de JOSA-279 (calz w/ no joy noted)

375.200 (KIAB METRO)
1940Z - AIR_EVAC-7012 rqst forecast for TRAVIS @ 2230Z to include temp &
pressure
2208Z - REACH-02 ETA COS in 45 minutes; rqst update on weather

379.400 (OFFUTT BASE OPNS)
2345Z - OFFUTT DISPATCH de JOSA-279 (multiple calz no joy noted switched to
METRO)
2351Z - OFFUTT DISPATCH de JOSA-279 (no joy noted)

311.000 (COMMAND POST)
1931Z - RAYMOND-21 w/ AIR_EVAC-7012 (C-141; 70012)
told to switch to 321.0 for pp to DSN 837-5517 (TRAVIS CMD POST) ((freq
still blocked by loud squeal as they described it)) & RAYMOND-21 relayed
7012's ETA - 2230Z, status (ALPHA-1); offload: 7 litter patients, ?? amb.;
15 paxs, 2 med attendants & 5 flight crew to TRAVIS.  Will be staying the
nite
2130Z - COBRA-23

321.000 (COMMAND POST)
1826Z - high pitch tone (sounds like same tone have heard used by TACAMO on
occasion - interesting 370.1 terminates acty & this kicks in......hmmmm)
2111Z - tone resumes

370.100 (TACAMO)
1550Z - (WFM) modem
1807Z - (WFM) voice under modem followed by push-button phone dialing
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From k0pwo at comcast.net  Tue Jul 13 00:42:17 2004
From: k0pwo at comcast.net (Dave Dean)
Date: Tue Jul 13 00:43:05 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Programming a BC895 for milair
Message-ID: <004601c46893$c6aca160$6700a8c0@attbi.com>

Hello to the group. Is there a way to force a BC895 into AM mode on the 138.xxx mhz milair freq band? Mine defaults to FM of course and I am wanting to know if there is a way to switch to AM.

Thanks,

Dave
From mystic at ikansas.com  Tue Jul 13 01:03:11 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Tue Jul 13 01:06:04 2004
Subject: [MilCom] PETRO-63 / EUREKA-11
Message-ID: <005c01c46896$b84c2e80$93cb2740@u5a3b0>

321.000 (SHOCKER CONTROL & MAINT)
0455Z - 30 minutes out; 6 crew, 0 cargo, rqst airstairs & parking (I missed
fuel & paxs status).  Rg BRAVO-16 (sounded like)

281.400 (KZKC GARDEN CITY)
0455Z - EUREKA-11 FL 410

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73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Tue Jul 13 01:34:21 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Tue Jul 13 01:38:06 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Seattle Milcom JULY 12
Message-ID: <40F3745D.80803@verizon.net>

McChord AFB arrivals 124.8 Tower, 349.4 CP

REACH 2104
COHO 51 Flight
REACH 2103
REACH 9170
TOTEM 59
TOTEM 62

Misc

255.40 Seattle Radio. GUARD 24119 off Gray AAF for Pendleton, OR
126.50 Seattle Dep. TROY, correction TOTEM 10 two C-130's off McChord
270.80 NAS Whidbey App. RAMPAGE 3 returned from FCF
311.00 Fairchild CP. COUNT 91 inbound
319.20 Seattle Center. CZAR 82 headed west
337.30 TSC Whidbey HABITAT. PRIMETIME 801 no joy on uniform 01
157.05 CG Seattle. CG 6582 flew over Paine Field looking for an ELT
132.95 Paine Field Tower. BOEING 38F (N38FT T-38A) two touch and go's, 
then back to Boeing Field

Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA
Northwest Aircraft Communications
http://microvoltradio.com/

From w2ec at attglobal.net  Tue Jul 13 11:29:19 2004
From: w2ec at attglobal.net (Ray, W2EC)
Date: Tue Jul 13 11:32:07 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Thunderbirds AR over Illinois
References: <20040712150055.55026.qmail@web12209.mail.yahoo.com>	<40F2BC3C.6050703@attglobal.net>
	<40F348E5.7050709@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <40F3FFCF.8030304@attglobal.net>

Knew I forgot something!

I had the following freqs programmed in my scanner, I didn't do a band 
scan to see if there were any other freqs in use. All were AM mode.

140.40
141.85
142.570
143.85
143.90
235.25

There was some activity on all the frequencies accept 143.90, I didn't 
hear anything there. 140.40 was active the day they arrived and when 
they departed. During the actual performance, my scanner pretty much 
locked up on 143.85 as that was almost continuously in use. For part of 
the show it must have been linked to the PA system as it appeared to be 
an announcer talking to the show crowd "Welcome ladies and gentlemen, 
etc etc, here come the THUNDERBIRDS!" as they made a low high speed pass 
over the airport. Then I started getting comm from the team with things 
like "get ready, bring 'em up, ready, ready, ready, BREAK" as they 
performed splits, rolls, etc. Hadn't thought ahead of time to record 
anything. One interesting thing was the "sing-song" method used, it 
appeared they were singing the commands in order to establish the 
timing, it wasn't just words, but an actual tone and rhythm to the 
command sequence. Kind of like saying the words but using a musical 
score to highlite them. Hard to explain but think of the method of 
singing the scale "do ra me so fa" but instead use words "and here we go 
so lets break NOW!" and it wasn't just going up the scale but actually 
doing it to a varying musical cadence. Many times there was no lead-up 
timing, it was just a quick word like "NOW or SPLIT or BREAK" and some 
words I couldn't even decipher, but each time something was uttered, one 
or more of the aircraft would make some abrupt attitude change.

Lot's of words that didn't mean much without knowing the context they 
were used in. "Drop it NOW!", "brakes NOW!", "ready, ready, ready, 
SMOKE!" all this was said in a sequence such that it was establishing 
the timing of the manuevers.

Ray

Greg Brazil wrote:

> What about a report of what you heard & frequencies used?
> Greg (SF Bay Area)
> 
> Ray, W2EC wrote:
> 
>> Actually, yesterday was a really great day for the Thunderbirds, and me!
>>
>> They were performing at the Binghamton, NY (BGM) air show and since I 
>> live only a short distance from the airport, and on top of a 
>> "mountain" at nearly the same MSL as BGM, I have a direct line of 
>> sight to the airport. So I sat on my front deck with a couple cold 
>> beers and my scanner, watching and listening to the whole show in 
>> comfort. At times they flew right over my house! Outstanding 
>> performance!!!!
>>
>> 73, Ray
>>
>> Scott wrote:
>>
>>> The Thunderbirds are currently about to refuel over
>>> Central IL.  They are on their way back to Nellis from
>>> somewhere.  Keep an ear out.  They were on UHF 295.8,
>>> but went back to VHF.
>>>
>>> Heads up Springfield IL.  You might have a surprise on
>>> your ramp.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
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From GHS521 at aol.com  Tue Jul 13 12:31:26 2004
From: GHS521 at aol.com (GHS521@aol.com)
Date: Tue Jul 13 12:34:29 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Thunderbirds AR over Illinois
Message-ID: <12a.460d3c81.2e25685e@aol.com>

Thanks for the report.
142.570 is a new one for me. You had traffic on that freq?

Thanks,
Greg
Cen IL

In a message dated 7/13/04 10:31:14 AM Central Daylight Time, 
w2ec@attglobal.net writes:

> Knew I forgot something!
> 
> I had the following freqs programmed in my scanner, I didn't do a band 
> scan to see if there were any other freqs in use. All were AM mode.
> 
> 142.570

From w2ec at attglobal.net  Tue Jul 13 15:13:51 2004
From: w2ec at attglobal.net (Ray, W2EC)
Date: Tue Jul 13 15:16:32 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Thunderbirds AR over Illinois
References: <12a.460d3c81.2e25685e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <40F4346F.70606@attglobal.net>

Mistyped, it should have been 142.575, not 142.570.

I remember it locking up on 142.575 several times, but I don't recall 
what comm occurred there, too busy glancing between the scanner and 
watching the show. 143.850 was the most prevelant freq during the 
performance.


GHS521@aol.com wrote:

> Thanks for the report.
> 142.570 is a new one for me. You had traffic on that freq?
> 
> Thanks,
> Greg
> Cen IL
> 
> In a message dated 7/13/04 10:31:14 AM Central Daylight Time, 
> w2ec@attglobal.net writes:
> 
>     Knew I forgot something!
> 
>     I had the following freqs programmed in my scanner, I didn't do a band
>     scan to see if there were any other freqs in use. All were AM mode.
> 
>     142.570
> 
> 
> 



From GHS521 at aol.com  Tue Jul 13 18:27:04 2004
From: GHS521 at aol.com (GHS521@aol.com)
Date: Tue Jul 13 18:30:07 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Thunderbirds AR over Illinois
Message-ID: <d8.f247419.2e25bbb8@aol.com>

Excellent, Thanks!

Greg

In a message dated 7/13/04 2:13:39 PM Central Daylight Time, 
w2ec@attglobal.net writes:

> Mistyped, it should have been 142.575, not 142.570.
> 
> I remember it locking up on 142.575 several times, but I don't recall 
> what comm occurred there, too busy glancing between the scanner and 
> watching the show. 143.850 was the most prevelant freq during the 
> performance.
> 

From Rapbep at aol.com  Tue Jul 13 20:18:34 2004
From: Rapbep at aol.com (Rapbep@aol.com)
Date: Tue Jul 13 20:19:59 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Andrews AFB/NAS Patuxent River Logs, 13 Jul 04
Message-ID: <1cc.25b15f3c.2e25d5da@aol.com>

1. ANDREWS AFB: 
[Tower (118.4/349.0); CP (141.55;378.1); PTD (122.85; 372.2): Potomac 
TRACON/Reagan National APP/DEP(119.3;335.5;124.2;118.95;119.85;125.65)] 

HOME BASED:

Venus 92 (VC-32A # 98-0002, 1st AS)- approaches then depart for Roanoke VA.
Boxer 391 (C-38/C-40A, 201st ALS DC ANG)- depart.
SAM 7403 (id as VC-37, 99th AS)- depart. Also w/SAM Ops (142.75) w/departure 
message.
Bully flight (2 X F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG)- on sqdn freq (127.275). #2 
simulated an oil pressure failure and simulated emergency RTB. 
Scary flight (2 X F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG)- on sqdn freq (139.35). 
Mussel 03, 5 (UH-1s, 1st Helo Sqdn)- local area operations
Navy AX 998 (C-130, VR-53)- approaches.
Bully flight (4 X F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG)- on sqdn freq (127.275)
Navy AX 992 (C-130T, VR-53)- approaches
Track 32 (C-21 # 84-0132, AFFSA)- approaches
Venus 24 (C-20 # 86-0204, 99th AS)- depart for Roanoke VA then returned about 
2 hours later. Flew an early evening sortie as well.
Pacer 82 (C-21 AFFSA)- approaches
Army 052 (UC-35 # 0-1052, OSACOM Det)- land
Track 66 (C-21 # 84-0066, AFFSA)- land
Army 70049 (VC-37A # 97-0049, OSACOM Det)- land

VISITORS :

Evac 48152 (C-130J #  97-1352,135th AS MD ANG Martin State)- land for upload 
of medevac crew. Departed in the late afternoon.
JOSA 818 (id as C-21)- land
Belgian Air Force 626 (A-310, 22nd Sqdn, Melsbroek)- depart
Decoy 05 (C-130, 167th AS WVA-ANG, Martinsburg)- depart.
PAT 923- depart
PAT 997- land. Depart about 1/2 hour later.
Nighthawk 41 (probable CH-53, HMX-1 MCAF Quantico VA)- depart
PAT 152- depart.
Reach 633T- land
JOSA 812.- land.
PAT 158- land.
PAT 579- land
JOSA 796- land
Reach 375T- land
Evac 952- land
JOSA 732- land.

2. PATUXENT RIVER NAS:
[NTPS-Test Pilot School; NSATS (VX-23)-Strike Aircraft Test Squadron; NFATS 
(VX-20)-Force Aircraft Test Squadron-;NRWATS (HX-21)-Rotary Wing Aircraft Test 
Squadron- 119.275; 120.05; 123.7; 127.95; 256.5; 270.8; 281.8; 354.8]

Navy 7A501 (C-12, AOD)- w/approach (127.95 & 135.025)
Water Bug 912 (P3C # 158912, test bed acft)- w/Bay Watch (354.8) and 
departure (314.0) for clearance to Wallops Island.
Salty Dog 411 (probable F-18, VX-23)- w/another F-18 in ACM training/tests 
(364.55). Also w/Bay Watch (270.8).
Water Bug 294 (unidentified, VX-20)- w/approach (120.05).

3. MISCELLANEOUS:

Navy 7C273 (C-12 AOD, NAS Chambers)-land at Davison AAF. Departed in the late 
afternoon.
PAT 44 (probable UH-60)- depart Davison AAF then w/Wash Helo Control 
(120.75).
N1NA (Gulfstream, NASA HQs)- land at Reagan National.
Crab 53 (C-130J # 97-1353, 135th AS MD ANG Martin State)- w/Potomac Departure 
(125.65).

RON
MIDDLE ATLANTIC MILCOM
MARYLAND, USA
PRO-2045 W/D-130J DISCONE
From ka3jjz at erols.com  Tue Jul 13 20:51:42 2004
From: ka3jjz at erols.com (Mike Agner)
Date: Tue Jul 13 20:49:22 2004
Subject: [MilCom] BC895 and 138 Mhz
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20040713205014.009e5090@pop3.norton.antivirus>

   Last nite, Dave Dean wrote:
=====================
Hello to the group. Is there a way to force a BC895 into AM mode on the 
138.xxx mhz milair freq band? Mine defaults to FM of course and I am 
wanting to know if there is a way to switch to AM.
=====================
  Nope - it's a shame, too, since the 895 works quite well in the 225-400 
Mhz milair band; you would hope the 138 mhz band would work quite as well, 
but alas not.

   73s  Mike 

From k0pwo at comcast.net  Tue Jul 13 21:39:16 2004
From: k0pwo at comcast.net (Dave Dean)
Date: Tue Jul 13 21:38:35 2004
Subject: [MilCom] BC895
Message-ID: <001f01c46943$601c28c0$6700a8c0@attbi.com>

Thanks for all that responded and gave me the bad news. Yes it is to bad this will not do AM there. I guess I will have to break out yet another scanner to sit on 138 mhz...

Thanks,

Dave
From flano at mindspring.com  Tue Jul 13 21:45:22 2004
From: flano at mindspring.com (FLANO)
Date: Tue Jul 13 21:46:53 2004
Subject: [MilCom] AZ Army NG Helos
Message-ID: <AOEGLBEOJAJMKDMACAHHIEOFEMAA.flano@mindspring.com>

I've been listening to the AZ Army NG Helos flying around Gila Bend, Marana,
Pinal, Picacho and the ?San Minegos?.  Sometimes the helo requests "warm
gas" vs "cold gas".  Does this reference identify a specific helicopter
type?  We've got Longbows and other types of helos.

c/s:  Coyote, Eval, Gunfighter, Longbow, Magic, Pearl, Redhawk (Foreigners),
Shadow, Viper

Thanks,
John
SE of Tucson

From rfinder1 at verizon.net  Tue Jul 13 21:49:22 2004
From: rfinder1 at verizon.net (Ken)
Date: Tue Jul 13 21:50:28 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Are Radio Hobbyists Being  Added To Big Brother's List?
Message-ID: <017901c46944$c9820310$6401a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>

Recently I read a story in "Newsweek" that throughout the country when
police respond to suspicious activity (see AFOSI's "Eagle Eyes" program
http://public.afosi.amc.af.mil/eagle/index.asp  as an example) they are now
inputing information into a nationwide homeland security data base, which
apparently flags certain people, etc...   I was in a waiting room and got
called for my appointment, so I didn't get to finish reading the entire
article....     Anyone got specifics on this???

Ken


From mystic at ikansas.com  Tue Jul 13 20:55:12 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Tue Jul 13 21:56:45 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	13 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <000f01c46945$96dc5ae0$02cb2740@u5a3b0>

316.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE PRIMARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
1553Z - DARK-22 playing on playground
1932Z - HOG or HAWG-01 FLIGHT 8 minutes out.  Understand have airspace 230 &
below
1940Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT
2013Z - CYCLONE-01 w/ LOBO-11 & LOBO-11 FLIGHT checking in on UNIFORM-14
2330Z - WIZARD de SKULL-25; SMOKY TOWER de SKULL-25, looking for WIZARD

363.200 (KZKC SALINA)
2010Z - LOBO-11 checking in & descending to 17000
2015Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT
2043Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT rqst direct SOUIX FALLS

296.600 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
1808Z - DUKE-11
2027Z - CYCLONE-01 de KC CENTRE, push 256.7
2027Z - CENTRE de CYCLONE-01, came back to you because no response on 256.7.
Rg, will try again.
2029Z - DUKE-14 checking back in

343.700 (KZKC TOPEKA)
0321Z - SKULL-21 FL 190 direct BARKSDALE
1548Z - DOOM-92 de JAYHAWK FLIGHT
1553Z - DOOM-92 rqst FL 200
1559Z - TUFF-19

337.400 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
2326Z - SKULL-25

273.600 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
2330Z - SKULL-25 FL 230

285.400 (KCKZ EMPORIA)
1957Z - FAST-12 direct BUTLER

281.400 (KZKC GARDEN CITY)
0455Z - EUREKA-11 FL 410

269.400 (KZKC GARDEN CITY)
1720Z - DARK-22

256.700 (KZMP OMAHA)
2028Z - CYCLONE-01  has you 5 X 5 now

307.200 (KZMP HASTINGS)
2052Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT checking in

317.700 (KZMP MARYSVILLE)
2055Z - DUKE-25

134.900 (KZKC SALINA)
2043Z - MINNEAPOLIS CENTRE de DUECE-95 checking in & rqst descent to 5000.
2046Z - MINNEAPOLIS CENTRE de DUECE-95, rqst altimeter setting
2054Z - KANSAS CITY CENTRE de VANDY-27, cleared pilot's discreation to 9000

123.800 (KZKC TOPEKA)
0155Z - PAT-496 descending to land @ FORBES
0314Z - KANZA-39 end-of-AR rqst is direct TULSA & SKULL-21 end-of-AR rqst is
direct BARKSDALE

135.100 (KZMP HASTINGS)
0104Z - SNOOP-76 rqsting delay until 0130Z

128.750 (KZMP LINCOLN)
0117Z - SNOOP-76 descending out of 220 for 2XX
2042Z - 349 for DUECE-95
297.300 (PAWNEE-LAMONI AR TRACK PRIMARY)
0115Z - OKIE-12 co-ordinating w/ SNOOP-76 to conduct AR OPNS
0133Z - HAPPY-54, OKIE-12, COBRA-99, SNOOP-76 & TOPCAT-58 attempting to fix
the FUBAR constructed by the scheduling sections of all aircraft involved.
OKIE & SNOOP take the low track; HAPPY & TOPCAT take the high track @ FL 240
& COBRA orbits over PAWNEE CITY hoping for a tanker
1523Z - HAPPY-61 (571494) conduct AR OPNS w/ TOPCAT-30 (624130)

396.200 (PAWNEE-LAMONI AR TRACK SECONDARY)
0135Z - HAPPY-54 co-ordinating w/ TOPCAT-58 to conduct AR OPNS & explaining
to COBRA-99 that his tanker (HAPPY-53) was a maint. cancel (seems someone
did not notify reciever of no tanker.)  COBRA attempting to get a boot-leg
fm HAPPY-54, but 54 does not want to incure the wrath of scheduling
supervisor/SOF by conducting a bootleg AR.  HAPPY also said they had to be
"home" by certain time.
*****  Guess if they are late they just might turn into ??YANKEE or GREEN
BAY PACKER fans :-)??

366.300 (AR-116)
0310Z - KANZA-39 conducts AR OPNS w/ SKULL-21
1551Z - JAYHAWK-22 FLIGHT conduct AR OPNS w/ DOOM-92 & DOOM-93
1643Z - HUSKER-15 & HUSKER-16 conduct AR OPNS w/ TUFF-19

343.500 (AR-016)
1811Z - 580024 conduct AR OPNS w/ 750125
Scramble Database - Query Results
Serial   Code   Type   CN   Unit   Status   First   Last   Comment
58-0024     KC-135E   17769   171st ARW   act   jan93   jan04   PA ANG grey,
'Rough and Ready' sep03
Serial   Code   Type   CN   Unit   Status   First   Last   Comment
75-0125     E-4B-BN   20949   1st ACCS   act   jan96   jun04

149.350 (138th FW OKANG; TULSA, OKLAHOMA: VICTOR-12)
1927Z - CREEK-01 & CREEK-02 w/ ref to DARKSTAR
(DARKSTAR not noted but if they were in EUREKA MOA or orbiting south of
there as I suspect -- totally possible they were there as well as the OPFOR
who was on 149.4 but never got calls on them)

138.300 (132nd FW IAANG; DES MOINES, IOWA: VICTOR-13)
2005Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT

139.700 (114th FW SDANG; SOUIX FALLS, SOUTH DAKOTA: VICTOR-13)
2012Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT

326.200 (KEND APP)
1705Z - RATTER-71
2239Z - (sounded like) CAJUN-32 (female pilot w/ too tight mask)
2248Z - BISON-51

261.025 (KTIK METRO)
2255Z - broken tx fm AIR_EVAC-701 ETA ____ @ 0145Z

311.000 (COMMAND POST)
1617Z - RAYMOND-39 de TUFF-19; SPIRIT CONTROL de TUFF-19
1626Z - RAYMOND-21 de TUFF-19, rqst pp to DSN 781-XXXX; Rg, switching 321.0
2033Z - RAYMOND-21 de CORVUS-29, copies CHARLIE-03 to ALPHA-01

321.000 (COMMAND POST)
0431Z - SHOCKER CONTROL & MAINT de TURBO-81, 25 minutes out & had write-ups
0455Z - SHOCKER CONTROL & MAINT dePETRO-63 is 30 minutes out; 6 crew, 0
cargo, rqst airstairs & parking (I missed fuel & paxs status).  Rg BRAVO-16
(sounded like)
0521Z - SHOCKER CONTROL de TURBO-43, we are back in the local area
1619Z - RAYMOND-39 de TUFF-19; SPIRIT CONTROL de TUFF-19
1626Z - RAYMOND-21 de TUFF-19 on 321.  Rg, (sounded like) JAKES SCHEDULING
de TUFF-19, HUSKER-16 is running approx 20 minutes late. Have you heard
anything?  Rg, thanks

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From rfinder1 at verizon.net  Tue Jul 13 22:10:34 2004
From: rfinder1 at verizon.net (Ken)
Date: Tue Jul 13 22:11:42 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Broadband Comms Monitoring for Presidential Security? 
Message-ID: <018b01c46947$bfc80dd0$6401a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>

Apparently Steve Douglass, 'Popular Communications', monthly columnist, has
got a  feature article (3 pages) "A Close Encounter of the Dubya Kind" in
the July 2004 edition which seems to indicate that he believes that when the
president is in an area, that there's an airborne aircraft flying above that
is monitoring a very wide range of frequencies being used on the ground and
if any radio comms (e.g. GMRS) are taken out of context to be a threat to
the President than a team is dispatched to track it down....

Personally, I don't think terrorists are using FRS, GMRS, MURS, or Amateur
radios for their communications needs in the United States but it's more
probable that they may be using some of those prepaid digitial cellular
phones, which would be much more versatile than short range comms....  BUT
my theory could be wrong.. perhaps we all need to be placing our scanners in
the search mode to see what we might hear!!!???

So does anyone have an opinion on these theories???

Ken







From rfinder1 at verizon.net  Tue Jul 13 22:14:37 2004
From: rfinder1 at verizon.net (Ken)
Date: Tue Jul 13 22:15:42 2004
Subject: [MilCom] AZ Army NG Helos
References: <AOEGLBEOJAJMKDMACAHHIEOFEMAA.flano@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <019e01c46948$509ee950$6401a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>

John:
They sometimes put the fuel nozzle in ice before the helicopter comes in,
this greatly aids in the refueling process :)   ... Well actually I'm just
kidding!!!

HOWEVER the truth is:  'Hot' fuel/gas, means that the engines are kept
running with cold fuel/gas means the engines are shut off.

Ken

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "FLANO" <flano@mindspring.com>
To: "SoCalMilCom@yahoogroups. com" <SoCalMilCom@yahoogroups.com>; "MilCom"
<milcom@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 9:45 PM
Subject: [MilCom] AZ Army NG Helos


> I've been listening to the AZ Army NG Helos flying around Gila Bend,
Marana,
> Pinal, Picacho and the ?San Minegos?.  Sometimes the helo requests "warm
> gas" vs "cold gas".


From rfinder1 at verizon.net  Tue Jul 13 22:16:31 2004
From: rfinder1 at verizon.net (Ken)
Date: Tue Jul 13 22:17:38 2004
Subject: [MilCom] BC895
References: <001f01c46943$601c28c0$6700a8c0@attbi.com>
Message-ID: <01b201c46948$947edb80$6401a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>

Hello Dave:

Actually I use the BC895 as one of my primary scanners for listening to
MILCOM.. The UHF Aero works great and yes there's some limitations, but for
the price it's stilly very good.

Ken
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Dean" <k0pwo@comcast.net>
To: <MilCom@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 9:39 PM
Subject: [MilCom] BC895


Thanks for all that responded and gave me the bad news. Yes it is to bad
this will not do AM there. I guess I will have to break out yet another
scanner to sit on 138 mhz...



From rfinder1 at verizon.net  Tue Jul 13 22:24:56 2004
From: rfinder1 at verizon.net (Ken)
Date: Tue Jul 13 22:26:03 2004
Subject: [MilCom] "Talkabouts" & Terrorists
Message-ID: <01e801c46949$c1905fd0$6401a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>

About a month ago one of the major networks did a segment on  army ops in
Afghanistan and apparently some of the Taliban may have been using Motorola
"Talkabouts" (FRS/GMRS radios) that were being picked up by signal
intelligence.

A few years back, I remember reading that one group in that area actually
had modified portable telephone to operate as walkie talkies.....   Very
interesting from a comm intelligence standpoint!!

Ken


From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Tue Jul 13 22:40:37 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Tue Jul 13 22:42:05 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 13 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <164.31d813d7.2e25f725@aol.com>

Busier than normal for a Tuesday.

275.80:  REDEYE-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out for 2 sorties 
in Cheyenne MOA.
275.80:  STUD-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared Airburst Range.
372.20:  JOSA-812, (C-21A), takeoff Colorado Springs.
372.20:  JOSA-423, (C-21A, Peterson), land Colorado Springs.
372.20:  SMOKY-10, (C-21A, Peterson), takeoff Colorado Springs.
372.20:  AVALON-73, (C-9A, Scott), land Colorado Springs.
275.80:  STUD-21, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out on VR-413.
121.60:  PAT-379, (C-26B, Buckley), cleared to San Antonio.
289.40:  HAGAR-14, (C-5, Dover), fly-by AF Academy.
372.20:  VANDY-12, (T-1A, Vance), takeoff Colorado Springs.
289.40:  ROCKET-11, flight of 2, (F-15, Seymour-Johnson), holding over Garden 
of the Gods for fly-by AF Academy. ROCKET-12 leaves the formation and 
switches 239.025 to land Colorado Springs. No indication of any problems. ROCKET-11 
does the fly-by then also recovers Colorado Springs.
291.675: HUNTER-91, (F/A-18A, VFA-201, Fort Worth), land; then on to Fort 
Worth.
289.40:  DEUCE-95, (KC-10A, McGuire), fly-by AF Academy; then land Colorado 
Springs.
Not sure what the occasion is at the Academy today to warrent all the fly-bys.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From CParris2 at compuserve.com  Tue Jul 13 22:47:07 2004
From: CParris2 at compuserve.com (Chris Parris)
Date: Tue Jul 13 22:48:53 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Broadband Comms Monitoring for Presidential
  Security?
Message-ID: <200407132247_MC3-1-867B-CA69@compuserve.com>

Message text written by "Ken"
>>>
So does anyone have an opinion on these theories???

Ken
<<<

Hi, Ken...

I also read Steve's column and thought he was jumping to a real far fetched
conclusion when he mentioned that. He simply took two unrelated events (he
and his friend talking on the radio and a Texas DPS car running by them at
high speed) and decided they must be related.

While I have no direct knowledge that this type of monitoring does not
happen, I would think that it would be very impractical in a real-time
basis. If an aircraft at altitude was to try and monitor all the possible
communications bands that might be used on the ground, there would be so
much to listen to that they wouldn't  have enough SIGINT & COMINT folks to
try and listen to everything. How would they weed out real threats and just
two guys talking? Also, how would they locate two people on FRS that might
be anywhere in a large radius from the aircraft's position?

At least for the time being, I'm not buying it...

- Chris

 --
Chris Parris
Fed Files Columnist
Monitoring Times Magazine
chrisparris@monitoringtimes.com

From CParris2 at compuserve.com  Tue Jul 13 22:51:28 2004
From: CParris2 at compuserve.com (Chris Parris)
Date: Tue Jul 13 22:53:05 2004
Subject: [MilCom] AZ Army NG Helos
Message-ID: <200407132251_MC3-1-867B-CA79@compuserve.com>

>>>
I've been listening to the AZ Army NG Helos flying around Gila Bend,
Marana,
Pinal, Picacho and the ?San Minegos?. 
<<<

Hey, John...

I was wondering about some frequency listings in the latest Southwest
Frequency Directory that talk about the Picacho Peak National Guard base.
They list  VHF & UHF air frequencies for the Picacho Peak NG base, but I
have never found a base near Picacho Peak. Is there actually such a thing
or are they referring to the helicopter training base at Pinal Air Park?

- Chris
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Tue Jul 13 23:23:09 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Tue Jul 13 23:24:41 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/13/04
Message-ID: <162.31e16f05.2e26011d@aol.com>

A rather slow one here.

NAVY JV-100 (C-40, NAS Jacksonvvile) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins.

COBRA-10 (EA-6, NAF Washington)  370.875, lands Dobbins.

NAVY JS-119 (C-9, NAS Atlanta) 134.125, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart 
around 2100z, Cleared to Chattanooga (KCHA), Return around 2210z, Would later 
depart around 2345z, Cleared to Navy Jacksonville (KNIP))

PAT-997 (??) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. (Would return around 2250z)

RIVER-31 (F/A-18, NAS JRB New Orleans) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

EASY-642 (??, NAS JRB New Orleans) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Little Rock (KLIT).

GATOR-31 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7>284.7>306.2, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared to Navy Meridian (KNMM). (Would return around 0000z)

COBB-60 flight of 2 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared VFR to Augusta (KAGS). (Would return around 0240z)
---------------------------------------
MACE-91 (F-16, SC-ANG?) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 354.05, FL 350
VIPER-01 (F-16) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 371.95>269.1, FL 240-250, Shoot an approach 
at Spartanburg (KSPA) then onto Donaldson (KGYH).
SKULL-24 (B-52, Barksdale) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 335.65, FL 250
MACE-91 (F-16) w/ Robins Metro (344.6) rqst wx for Navy Fort Worth at 2000z
ARMY-30101 (??) w/ Atlanta Deprt, 121.0>124.45 
------------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga
"VFA-203 Forever"
From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Tue Jul 13 23:42:34 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Tue Jul 13 23:44:00 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Broadband Comms Monitoring for Presidential Security?
In-Reply-To: <018b01c46947$bfc80dd0$6401a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>
References: <018b01c46947$bfc80dd0$6401a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>
Message-ID: <40F4ABAA.4080909@verizon.net>

That's nothing, an RC-135 flies over my house every morning at 2 am and 
remotely formats my hard drive.

If you really want something to worry about, read this from Air Force 
Instruction 11-2KC-135, C/KC-135 Operations Procedures. ChemSpray anyone?

10.23. (Added) Aircrew Chemical Operations and Procedures. When 
performing flying duties while

wearing AERPs, crewmembers will wear issued flying glasses. The black 
plastic frame glasses issued for

use with ground crew chemical ensemble are NOT authorized for use during 
flying operations and will

not be worn with the aircraft chemical defense ensemble. (Reference 
paragraph 23.10)



Matt Cawby


Ken wrote:

>Apparently Steve Douglass, 'Popular Communications', monthly columnist, has
>got a  feature article (3 pages) "A Close Encounter of the Dubya Kind" in
>the July 2004 edition which seems to indicate that he believes that when the
>president is in an area, that there's an airborne aircraft flying above that
>is monitoring a very wide range of frequencies being used on the ground and
>if any radio comms (e.g. GMRS) are taken out of context to be a threat to
>the President than a team is dispatched to track it down....
>
>Personally, I don't think terrorists are using FRS, GMRS, MURS, or Amateur
>radios for their communications needs in the United States but it's more
>probable that they may be using some of those prepaid digitial cellular
>phones, which would be much more versatile than short range comms....  BUT
>my theory could be wrong.. perhaps we all need to be placing our scanners in
>the search mode to see what we might hear!!!???
>
>So does anyone have an opinion on these theories???
>
>Ken
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>  
>

From jehaverlah at pdq.net  Wed Jul 14 01:49:46 2004
From: jehaverlah at pdq.net (Jeff Haverlah)
Date: Wed Jul 14 01:52:04 2004
Subject: [MilCom] MIL: 8992.0 - RAZOR 22
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20040714004854.00a2ed70@mail.pdq.net>

0549z  14 Jul 04

      8992.0 was active at 0543z with RAZOR 22 (weak/readable) working 
MCCLELLAN for a phone patch to PEACH TREE.

Jeff Haverlah

From flano at mindspring.com  Wed Jul 14 01:58:06 2004
From: flano at mindspring.com (flano@mindspring.com)
Date: Wed Jul 14 01:59:25 2004
Subject: [MilCom] AZ Army NG Helos
In-Reply-To: <200407132251_MC3-1-867B-CA79@compuserve.com>
Message-ID: <AOEGLBEOJAJMKDMACAHHCEOKEMAA.flano@mindspring.com>

Hi Chris,

  Well, I've never heard them say the Picacho peak base, but, all the
references in the traffic, suggests something is up there :)

  Try 143.725mhz.  It's the repeater for 135.525mhz.

  As far as the listings in SWFD, unfortunately, I've never had a hit on one
of them for the Army NG stuff...

  John
  SE of Tucson

-----Original Message-----
From: milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Chris Parris
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:51 PM
To: FLANO
Cc: MilCom
Subject: [MilCom] AZ Army NG Helos


>>>
I've been listening to the AZ Army NG Helos flying around Gila Bend,
Marana,
Pinal, Picacho and the ?San Minegos?.
<<<

Hey, John...

I was wondering about some frequency listings in the latest Southwest
Frequency Directory that talk about the Picacho Peak National Guard base.
They list  VHF & UHF air frequencies for the Picacho Peak NG base, but I
have never found a base near Picacho Peak. Is there actually such a thing
or are they referring to the helicopter training base at Pinal Air Park?

- Chris
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From flano at mindspring.com  Wed Jul 14 01:58:04 2004
From: flano at mindspring.com (flano@mindspring.com)
Date: Wed Jul 14 01:59:26 2004
Subject: [MilCom] AZ Army NG Helos
In-Reply-To: <019e01c46948$509ee950$6401a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>
Message-ID: <AOEGLBEOJAJMKDMACAHHAEOKEMAA.flano@mindspring.com>

Thanks Ken,

  So, not particular to a helo type, bummer :)

  Thanks,
  John
  SE of Tucson

-----Original Message-----
From: milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Ken
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:15 PM
To: FLANO
Cc: MILCOM
Subject: Re: [MilCom] AZ Army NG Helos


John:
They sometimes put the fuel nozzle in ice before the helicopter comes in,
this greatly aids in the refueling process :)   ... Well actually I'm just
kidding!!!

HOWEVER the truth is:  'Hot' fuel/gas, means that the engines are kept
running with cold fuel/gas means the engines are shut off.

Ken

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "FLANO" <flano@mindspring.com>
To: "SoCalMilCom@yahoogroups. com" <SoCalMilCom@yahoogroups.com>; "MilCom"
<milcom@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 9:45 PM
Subject: [MilCom] AZ Army NG Helos


> I've been listening to the AZ Army NG Helos flying around Gila Bend,
Marana,
> Pinal, Picacho and the ?San Minegos?.  Sometimes the helo requests "warm
> gas" vs "cold gas".


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From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Wed Jul 14 02:19:01 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Wed Jul 14 02:20:26 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Seattle Milcom JULY 13
Message-ID: <40F4D055.5000209@verizon.net>

NAS Whidbey departures 340.2 Tower

EAGLE 14
DEEPSEA 33
PUGET 5
MARLIN 7
RAMPAGE 1
NAVY QT 780
MARLIN 20
DEEPSEA 50
DEEPSEA 52
RAMPAGE 3

Misc

311.00 Fairchild CP. EARL 92 inbound
259.30 McChord Tower. TOTEM 10 cleared to land
349.40 McChord CP. PITT 14 C-130 medevac out of Travis going to Sea-Tac 
Airport
307.80 Seattle Center. SPIRIT 01 flight of two eastbound. 388.85 A/A 
discussed wx at Whiteman
374.55 Continuous high pitched tone with occasional DTMF tones and voice 
at 0124z, abruptly stopped at 0153z then 382.35 started with the same 
noises. Loss of signal at 0230z
156.25 Seattle VTS. CG Cutter Wahoo escorted Navy Unit 38 north of Bush 
Point
156.25 CG Cutter Bayberry at Possession Point

Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA
Northwest Aircraft Communications
http://microvoltradio.com/


From mystic at ikansas.com  Wed Jul 14 02:45:40 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Wed Jul 14 03:17:35 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 13 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA;
	NORTHERN OKLAHOMA; CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
References: <000f01c46945$96dc5ae0$02cb2740@u5a3b0>
Message-ID: <009d01c46972$62f79f00$b5cb2740@u5a3b0>


----- Original Message ----- 
 "GG"  of fat finger fame wrote @ Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:55 PM:
>
> 134.900 (KZKC SALINA)
> 2043Z - MINNEAPOLIS CENTRE de DUECE-95 checking in & rqst descent to 5000.
> 2046Z - MINNEAPOLIS CENTRE de DUECE-95, rqst altimeter setting

> 128.750 (KZMP LINCOLN)
> 2042Z - 349 for DUECE-95

when it should be DEUCE (like a DEUCE & half truck :~) Maybe one day I will
learn how to spell or is it type

Oh well
73
clear 6
walt

From mystic at ikansas.com  Wed Jul 14 02:40:35 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Wed Jul 14 03:17:36 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Broadband Comms Monitoring for Presidential  Security?
References: <200407132247_MC3-1-867B-CA69@compuserve.com>
Message-ID: <009c01c46972$6059c2a0$b5cb2740@u5a3b0>

Hi Chris, Ken & all
While I have not read Steve's article, the capability to collect all those
signals has existed since at least the mid-70s, if not since the 60s.
However, the ability to process & analyize this collection of signals in
real-time, as far as I know, still remains beyond the combined abilities of
all the services and the various and numerous federal agencies to include
even the NSA/CIA/FBI/DEA just to list a few (there are not enough people to
do it in a real-time manner even using computers keying on key words.)
Could it be done on a NON-real-time base?  Yes, but would it cost-effective
to do so?  I think not especially being that you can only re-use a tape a
finate number of times.

Now I shall go back into slumber-mode. (here little B-2s, come out to play
:~)

73
clear 6
walt
----- Original Message ----- 
Chris  wrote @  Tuesday, July 13, 2004 9:47 PM:
Message text written by "Ken"
>>>
So does anyone have an opinion on these theories???

Ken
<<<

Hi, Ken...

I also read Steve's column and thought he was jumping to a real far fetched
conclusion when he mentioned that. He simply took two unrelated events (he
and his friend talking on the radio and a Texas DPS car running by them at
high speed) and decided they must be related.

While I have no direct knowledge that this type of monitoring does not
happen, I would think that it would be very impractical in a real-time
basis. If an aircraft at altitude was to try and monitor all the possible
communications bands that might be used on the ground, there would be so
much to listen to that they wouldn't  have enough SIGINT & COMINT folks to
try and listen to everything. How would they weed out real threats and just
two guys talking? Also, how would they locate two people on FRS that might
be anywhere in a large radius from the aircraft's position?

At least for the time being, I'm not buying it...

- Chris

 --
Chris Parris
Fed Files Columnist
Monitoring Times Magazine
chrisparris@monitoringtimes.com


From elint_sigint_comint at cox.net  Wed Jul 14 03:41:47 2004
From: elint_sigint_comint at cox.net (Bill "Superspy" Boltinghouse)
Date: Wed Jul 14 03:43:05 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Broadband Comms Monitoring for Presidential Security? 
References: <018b01c46947$bfc80dd0$6401a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>
Message-ID: <003201c46976$04ccbb00$ed1a6e44@om.cox.net>

During my days in the USAF, our mission was to monitor all communications of
the enemy and other governments

There are ground stations in other countries which can monitor comms as well
as airborne platforms

We worked in conjuntion with the NSA/CSS

You might wish to check out www.fas.org and search on sigint, comint etc

Now that terrorism has come to the CONUS, I am certain that there are teams
which are monitoring all types of civil communications searching for enemy
communications

I cannot be more specific without possibly giving away monitoring techniques

Let me make a suggestion, if you are not too busy monitoring our
communications (MILCOM); monitor those comms mentioned below and report any
comms that sound out of sort to the FBI

Bill Boltinghouse
208 South 1st Street Apt 4A
Council Bluffs Iowa 51503
http://billboltinghouse.tripod.com/bill-webs/


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken" <rfinder1@verizon.net>
To: "MILCOM" <milcom@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 9:10 PM
Subject: [MilCom] Broadband Comms Monitoring for Presidential Security?


> Apparently Steve Douglass, 'Popular Communications', monthly columnist,
has
> got a  feature article (3 pages) "A Close Encounter of the Dubya Kind" in
> the July 2004 edition which seems to indicate that he believes that when
the
> president is in an area, that there's an airborne aircraft flying above
that
> is monitoring a very wide range of frequencies being used on the ground
and
> if any radio comms (e.g. GMRS) are taken out of context to be a threat to
> the President than a team is dispatched to track it down....
>
> Personally, I don't think terrorists are using FRS, GMRS, MURS, or Amateur
> radios for their communications needs in the United States but it's more
> probable that they may be using some of those prepaid digitial cellular
> phones, which would be much more versatile than short range comms....  BUT
> my theory could be wrong.. perhaps we all need to be placing our scanners
in
> the search mode to see what we might hear!!!???
>
> So does anyone have an opinion on these theories???
>
> Ken
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From n5wv at eastex.net  Wed Jul 14 04:45:00 2004
From: n5wv at eastex.net (n5wv@eastex.net)
Date: Wed Jul 14 04:46:33 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Black Mountain
Message-ID: <405fd2fbd26e4c5a8f5f4b67a09afab4.n5wv@eastex.net>

Hello Group  ,  Does anyone know the location of a "Black Mountain" ? I have heard what sounds like helo's working "Rescue Op's" on 6713.5 USB . The only location that I have heard them refer to is "Black Mountain". The signal is very weak and the band is very noisey. Also FYI the callsign "Jambo ##" has been changed to "Skull ##" for the B-52's from the 93rd BS out of KBAD ,"Barksdale AFB". The callsigns; Doom ## , Scalp ## and Tuff ## remain unchanged. A/A frequencies are; 228.150 , 228.225 , 228.250 , 228.325 , 228.350 , 228.450 and 392.200. AFRES A-10 A/A ; 138.900 , 139.800 , 139.900 , 140.000 and 141.500. Winchester Op's; 141.500.   Thanks ,  Randy 

From blaine.brooks at comcast.net  Wed Jul 14 07:49:46 2004
From: blaine.brooks at comcast.net (blaine.brooks@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Jul 14 07:51:11 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Re: Talkabouts and Terrorists
Message-ID: <071420041149.22327.40F51DDA00092C340000573722007348309C0501019D0DD20A02070E040D@comcast.net>



 
> apparently some of the Taliban may have been using Motorola 
> "Talkabouts" (FRS/GMRS radios)  
 
> had modified portable telephone to operate as walkie talkies 

Oh great....Paranoia grips our nation even more!. Good grief...
Watch for the Taliban using FRS radios at your local playground!...
And don't forget to report to the FBI any person you see wearing
a turban and talking on a cell phone!.  According to Dubya and
Tom Ridge, they're all terrorists, and they're everywhere!. 
Run for the hills, and forget your liberties!...
Blaine Brooks
Flower Mound, Tx.
From rj_721 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 14 08:07:08 2004
From: rj_721 at yahoo.com (rod jones)
Date: Wed Jul 14 08:08:34 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Black Mountain
In-Reply-To: <405fd2fbd26e4c5a8f5f4b67a09afab4.n5wv@eastex.net>
Message-ID: <20040714120708.65577.qmail@web20928.mail.yahoo.com>

---  <n5wv@eastex.net> wrote:
> Hello Group  ,  Does anyone know the location of a "Black Mountain" ? I have heard what sounds
> like helo's working "Rescue Op's" on 6713.5 USB . The only location that I have heard them refer
> to is "Black Mountain". The signal is very weak and the band is very noisey. Also FYI the
> callsign "Jambo ##" has been changed to "Skull ##" for the B-52's from the 93rd BS out of KBAD
> ,"Barksdale AFB". The callsigns; Doom ## , Scalp ## and Tuff ## remain unchanged. A/A
> frequencies are; 228.150 , 228.225 , 228.250 , 228.325 , 228.350 , 228.450 and 392.200. AFRES
> A-10 A/A ; 138.900 , 139.800 , 139.900 , 140.000 and 141.500. Winchester Op's; 141.500.   Thanks
> ,  Randy 
> 

Randy, there is a Black Mountain in North Georgia (34-36N, 84-12W). It's in the area of Camp
Merrill, and Rescue and SOS helos train in this often.

Rod
Atlanta



		
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From dehmmy at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 10:00:43 2004
From: dehmmy at gmail.com (dehm)
Date: Wed Jul 14 10:02:23 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Re: Talkabouts and Terrorists
In-Reply-To: <4061d8e304071406593d304cf4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <071420041149.22327.40F51DDA00092C340000573722007348309C0501019D0DD20A02070E040D@comcast.net>
	<4061d8e304071406593d304cf4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4061d8e30407140700326a56c3@mail.gmail.com>

Better take FRS radios off the shelves!!



On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:49:46 +0000, blaine.brooks@comcast.net
<blaine.brooks@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> > apparently some of the Taliban may have been using Motorola
> > "Talkabouts" (FRS/GMRS radios)
>
> > had modified portable telephone to operate as walkie talkies
>
> Oh great....Paranoia grips our nation even more!. Good grief...
> Watch for the Taliban using FRS radios at your local playground!...
> And don't forget to report to the FBI any person you see wearing
> a turban and talking on a cell phone!.  According to Dubya and
> Tom Ridge, they're all terrorists, and they're everywhere!.
> Run for the hills, and forget your liberties!...
> Blaine Brooks
> Flower Mound, Tx.
From baycomm at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 14 10:32:44 2004
From: baycomm at earthlink.net (Greg Brazil)
Date: Wed Jul 14 10:34:10 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Broadband Comms Monitoring for Presidential Security?
In-Reply-To: <003201c46976$04ccbb00$ed1a6e44@om.cox.net>
References: <018b01c46947$bfc80dd0$6401a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>
	<003201c46976$04ccbb00$ed1a6e44@om.cox.net>
Message-ID: <40F5440C.7020802@earthlink.net>

We did the same as Bill states in Navy EP3's, EA3's, EC121's, A1Q's, 
P2V's (special) etc.  No more to say.
Greg (SF Bay Area)

Bill "Superspy" Boltinghouse wrote:

> During my days in the USAF, our mission was to monitor all communications of
> the enemy and other governments
> 
> There are ground stations in other countries which can monitor comms as well
> as airborne platforms
> 
> We worked in conjuntion with the NSA/CSS
> 
> You might wish to check out www.fas.org and search on sigint, comint etc
> 
> Now that terrorism has come to the CONUS, I am certain that there are teams
> which are monitoring all types of civil communications searching for enemy
> communications
> 
> I cannot be more specific without possibly giving away monitoring techniques
> 
> Let me make a suggestion, if you are not too busy monitoring our
> communications (MILCOM); monitor those comms mentioned below and report any
> comms that sound out of sort to the FBI
> 
> Bill Boltinghouse
> 208 South 1st Street Apt 4A
> Council Bluffs Iowa 51503
> http://billboltinghouse.tripod.com/bill-webs/
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ken" <rfinder1@verizon.net>
> To: "MILCOM" <milcom@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 9:10 PM
> Subject: [MilCom] Broadband Comms Monitoring for Presidential Security?
> 
> 
> 
>>Apparently Steve Douglass, 'Popular Communications', monthly columnist,
> 
> has
> 
>>got a  feature article (3 pages) "A Close Encounter of the Dubya Kind" in
>>the July 2004 edition which seems to indicate that he believes that when
> 
> the
> 
>>president is in an area, that there's an airborne aircraft flying above
> 
> that
> 
>>is monitoring a very wide range of frequencies being used on the ground
> 
> and
> 
>>if any radio comms (e.g. GMRS) are taken out of context to be a threat to
>>the President than a team is dispatched to track it down....
>>
>>Personally, I don't think terrorists are using FRS, GMRS, MURS, or Amateur
>>radios for their communications needs in the United States but it's more
>>probable that they may be using some of those prepaid digitial cellular
>>phones, which would be much more versatile than short range comms....  BUT
>>my theory could be wrong.. perhaps we all need to be placing our scanners
> 
> in
> 
>>the search mode to see what we might hear!!!???
>>
>>So does anyone have an opinion on these theories???
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From av8tor at flash.net  Wed Jul 14 11:10:15 2004
From: av8tor at flash.net (GeorgeF.)
Date: Wed Jul 14 11:12:43 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Exercise on the NORAD freqs.
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040714111010.02001780@pop.flash.yahoo.com>



As I reported yesterday about an exercise it looks like yesterdays event 
was cancelled.   Today, at 1100 EDT, they?re back.  Callsigns  WIDGET, 
BROVO9, RUDY52, TEXACO2 and others.  Active freqs are 254.2000 and 234.6000.

Mention of IR30  (IFR Military Training Route) was made in regards to 
weather.   Not confirmed but it sounds like they?re getting setup for a 
live missile launch.    Sigs are strong here in Daytona Beach, even was 
able to receive on a BC250 w/RubberDucky
.

If anyone has more info on this exercise please share for all to learn.

George  KI4FIA  Daytona Beach, FL
http://www.MilAirComms.com

From paratrooper202 at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 14 11:50:12 2004
From: paratrooper202 at earthlink.net (Christopher  Corley)
Date: Wed Jul 14 11:51:50 2004
Subject: [MilCom] AZ Army NG Helos
References: <AOEGLBEOJAJMKDMACAHHIEOFEMAA.flano@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <001b01c469ba$4180a540$c5d59904@computer>

What are the Frequency?

Chris
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To: "SoCalMilCom@yahoogroups. com" <SoCalMilCom@yahoogroups.com>; "MilCom"
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Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 9:45 PM
Subject: [MilCom] AZ Army NG Helos


> I've been listening to the AZ Army NG Helos flying around Gila Bend,
Marana,
> Pinal, Picacho and the ?San Minegos?.  Sometimes the helo requests "warm
> gas" vs "cold gas".  Does this reference identify a specific helicopter
> type?  We've got Longbows and other types of helos.
>
> c/s:  Coyote, Eval, Gunfighter, Longbow, Magic, Pearl, Redhawk
(Foreigners),
> Shadow, Viper
>
> Thanks,
> John
> SE of Tucson
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From courir26 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 14 12:04:06 2004
From: courir26 at yahoo.com (Tom M.)
Date: Wed Jul 14 12:05:33 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Re: Talkabouts and Terrorists
In-Reply-To: <071420041149.22327.40F51DDA00092C340000573722007348309C0501019D0DD20A02070E040D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20040714160406.87100.qmail@web51705.mail.yahoo.com>

I say let 'em use Talkabouts.

The freqs are well known, all the easier to listen to them (not that the NSA
can't find them anywhere they go!).

Bring it on, Taliban!

Tom 



--- blaine.brooks@comcast.net wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> > apparently some of the Taliban may have been using Motorola 
> > "Talkabouts" (FRS/GMRS radios)  
>  
> > had modified portable telephone to operate as walkie talkies 
> 
> Oh great....Paranoia grips our nation even more!. Good grief...
> Watch for the Taliban using FRS radios at your local playground!...
> And don't forget to report to the FBI any person you see wearing
> a turban and talking on a cell phone!.  According to Dubya and
> Tom Ridge, they're all terrorists, and they're everywhere!. 
> Run for the hills, and forget your liberties!...
> Blaine Brooks
> Flower Mound, Tx.
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From msaran at olympus.net  Wed Jul 14 15:01:12 2004
From: msaran at olympus.net (Mark Saran)
Date: Wed Jul 14 15:02:58 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Poipu, Kauai Hawaii log
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040714111010.02001780@pop.flash.yahoo.com>
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040714111010.02001780@pop.flash.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <p06020409bd1b2fc47c0b@[192.168.1.101]>

357.1   Lots of helo activity with t'off and landings all day on Navy 
ship just off shore(email me if you want a pic).

266.4 talking about exercise - Mojack Dancer to Whisky 186  also Huckleberry 01
313.3 Primary
290.8 Secondary
255.0 'Get well?' freq for all players

Other activity

379.6
279.6
156.8/156.5 Warship 01 also on #13 and #69
275.2  difficult to deploy -returning to ship
374.3 01 to Eagle  Tower
277.8 (fleet common - same kind of traffic I hear in Western 
Washingtonn - alpha/number/alpha units talking to each other
364.2
271.4


From Rapbep at aol.com  Wed Jul 14 16:25:44 2004
From: Rapbep at aol.com (Rapbep@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 14 16:27:12 2004
Subject: [MilCom] DC Area Logs, 14 Jul 04
Message-ID: <1ef.25482944.2e26f0c8@aol.com>

Severe thunderstorms in the afternoon curtailed a lot of local flying.

1. ANDREWS AFB (KADW): 
[Tower (118.4/349.0); CP (141.55;378.1); PTD (122.85; 372.2): Potomac 
TRACON/Reagan National APP/DEP(119.3;335.5;124.2;118.95;119.85;125.65)] 

HOME BASED:

Venus 91 (VC-32A # 98-0001, 1st AS)- approaches then depart for Atlantic 
City. Returned later for approaches at ADW.
SAM 7713 (probable C-20, 99th AS)- depart.
Navy 309 (C-12 # 7N309, AOD)- land
Wild flight (2 X F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG)- on sqdn freq (127.275). Also w/ZDC 
(281.4)
Venus 42 (VC-37A # 99-402, 99th AS)- approaches then on to Patuxent River.
Bully flight (2 X F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG)- on sqdn freq (139.45). Flew 
afternoon sortie as well.
Budman 1 flight (2 X F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG)- depart then w/ZDC (281.4)
Venus 2 (probable VC-32A, 1st AS)- approaches
Mussel 01, 02, 05, 06 (UH-1s, 1st Helo Sqdn)- local area operations
Navy JR 094 (C-20G # 165093, VR-48)- depart.
Pacer 08 (C-21, 457th AS)- approaches
Navy 692 (C-20D # 163692, VR-1)- depart.
DC 31 (KC-135R, 459th ARW)- approaches
DC 32 (KC-135R, 459th ARW)- approaches
Scary flight (2 X F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG)- on sqdn freq (139.35) then w/Pax 
River.


VISITORS :

JOSA 205 (id as C-21 # 84-0088)- land then on to Maxwell AFB.
JOSA 721 (id as C-21 # 84-0090)- land then on to Wright-Patterson.
JOSA 525- depart.
PAT 233- depart.
JOSA 779- land. Departed about 1/2 hour later.
Evac 85308 (id as tail # 5308)- land. Departed about 1 hour later.
PAT 161- depart.
JOSA 463- land.
PAT 437- land.
Reach 398T- depart.
Reach 392T (id as C-5)- land.
JOSA 257- land
Reach 378T (id as C-17)- land.

2. PATUXENT RIVER NAS (KNHK):
[NTPS-Test Pilot School; NSATS (VX-23)-Strike Aircraft Test Squadron; NFATS 
(VX-20)-Force Aircraft Test Squadron-;NRWATS (HX-21)-Rotary Wing Aircraft Test 
Squadron- 119.275; 120.05; 123.7; 127.95; 256.5; 270.8; 281.8; 354.8]

Navy JT 048 (C-9, VR-52, NJRB Willow Grove)- w/approach (127.95)
Tester 09 (T-38, NTPS)- w/Bay Watch (270.8)
Greyhawk 01 (E-2C, VAW-124 NAS Chambers)- w/approach (127.95)
Venus 42 (VC-37A # 99-402, 99th AS Andrews)- approaches (135.025)
Navy 375 (C-12 AOD Andrews)- w/Bay Watch (270.8) then RTB Andrews.
Salty Dogs 100 & 102 (F-18s, VX-23)- w/Water Bug (E-2C # 163849, VX-20) 
testing airborne tracking system on test discretes (345.1 & 313.7)
Tester 26 & 27 (T-2Cs, NTPS)- w/Bay Watch (256.5) working w/Tester 00 
(unidentified NTPS) in some sort of maneuvering testing/evaluation.
Raven flight (2 X A-10s, 104th FS MD ANG, Martin State)- w/Bay Watch (270.8).
Water Bug 294 (unidentified, VX-20)- w/Bay Watch (270.8).
Navy 375 (id as T-37)- w/Bay Watch (354.8) and approach (305.2)
Scary flight (2 X F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG, Andrews)- w/approach (305.2). Also 
working with callsign Redback (unidentified) on sqdn freq (139.35) w/FAC & 
laser-guided munitions (LGM) training.
Navy AX 998 (C-130T, VR-53, Andrews)- w/approach (305.2) and w/Bay Watch 
(270.8) for entry into R-4006.

3. Martin State Airport (KMTN):
104th Fighter Sqdn MD ANG; 135th Airlift Sqdn MD ANG-Tower (121.3/297.2); 
Raven Ops (143.8/347.2); Crab Ops (385.9)

Raven flight (2 X A-10s, 104th FS MD ANG, Martin State)- land (297.2)

4. Marine Corps Air Facility (MCAF) Quantico (KNYG):
Tower (118.6/360.2); Approach/Departure (127.05/290.375); Base Ops (355.3). 

5. Davison AAF, Ft Bevoir VA (KDAA):
Tower (126.3/229.4/241.0); Potomac approach/departure (118.85/118.95/119.85); 
Base Ops (139.4).

PAT 1259- land 
PAT 179- land

6. MISCELLANEOUS:

N1NA (Gulfstream, NASA HQs)- depart Reagan National.
Army 030 (unidentified)- w/Potomac approach (119.85).
November 2 (Citation 550, FAA HQs)- depart Reagan National.
Spider flight (F-16s, 178th FS ND ANG, deployed to Langley AFB)- w/Huntress 
(228.9) check in for East Coast CAP duty.

RON
MIDDLE ATLANTIC MILCOM
MARYLAND, USA
PRO-2045 W/D-130J DISCONE
From Rapbep at aol.com  Wed Jul 14 16:25:53 2004
From: Rapbep at aol.com (Rapbep@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 14 16:27:30 2004
Subject: [MilCom] US Military ALE Logs, 14 Jul 04
Message-ID: <d5.11426a51.2e26f0d1@aol.com>

((ALL FREQS ARE KHZ & TIMES UTC))   

080470 K040YN (unidentified, probable US Army): 1435 USB/ALE TO A090ZN 
(unidentified, probable US Army). Also noted on 110816.5. 14/07 RP3

03285.0 USAIS1012 (Army Intelligence & Security Command, Ft Belvoir VA):  
1430 USB/ALE TO USAMD1010 (US Army Medical Department ???). Also noted on 
05088.5. 14/07 RP3

16338.5 K040YN (unidentified, probable US Army): 1511 USB/ALE TO PMTRACS 
(Program Manager for Tactical Radio Communications Systems). Also noted on 
08047.0. 14/07 RP3

05877.0 F2Z224 (2/224th Avn, VA NG Richmond VA): 1545 USB/ALE sounding. 14/07 
RP3

08047.0 K040YN (unidentified, probable US Army): 1543 USB/ALE TO HQ703N 
(703rd Main Support Bn, Ft Stewart/Hunter AAF GA). 14/07 RP3 

13215.0 ADW (Andrews AFB): 1745 USB/ALE TO ADW02 (probable HF Remote Site). 
Also noted on 18003.0.  14/07 RP3 

18003.0 ADW (Andrews AFB): 1734 USB/ALE TO 450030 (KC-10 # 85-0030). 14/07 
RP3         

09025.0 E30002 (E-3B AWACS # 81-0002): 1807 USB/ALE TO OFF (Offutt AFB). 
14/07 RP3 

18003.0 571428 (KC-135 # 57-1428): 1828 USB/ALE sounding. 14/07 RP3

09025.0 E30352IGM (E-3B AWACS # 77-0352 w/unusual suffix): 1913 USB/ALE TO 
ADW (Andrews AFB). 14/07 RP3 

    
RON (RAPBEP@AOL.COM)
MARYLAND, USA
UTILITY STATION MONITORING
Icom R-75 w/45-ft PAR EF-SWL 
From rfinder1 at verizon.net  Wed Jul 14 17:28:11 2004
From: rfinder1 at verizon.net (Ken)
Date: Wed Jul 14 17:29:33 2004
Subject: [MilCom] NYC Ground Stop
Message-ID: <010101c469e9$774ba880$6401a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>

KCEF Tower, 134.85 is reporting "ground stop" for aircraft heading into
airports in NYC area.. Any idea ?
1725 hrs local).

Ken
Springfield MA Area


From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Wed Jul 14 18:24:44 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Wed Jul 14 18:27:02 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF Logs 13 July 04
Message-ID: <01c301c469f1$747620b0$64da4fd8@Marks>

0108Z    8337.6    ANDVT

0113Z    8337.6    C2O wkg unheard station. Mentions northwest corner of box and time 1020 local

0120Z    11175.0    NAVY AX 020 (C-130T, VR-53) (near Charleston, SC at FL 290) p/p via Puerto Rico HF-GCS to Andrews Meteo for 0245z WX

0138Z    7527.0    JULIET 16 calling CAMSPAC with no answer

0139Z    10993.6    ANDVT

2209Z    8983.0    CAMSLANT wkg Cutter EAGLE for ops report

2217Z    8992.0    LL 93 (P-3C, VP-30) wkg Andrews HF-GCS

2223Z    8971.0    FIGHTING TIGER 24 (P-3C, VP-8) wkg GOLDENHAWK (TSC Brunswick) to report "secondary lost coil pressure". RTB for test flight # 2

2344Z    11205.0    SHARK 78 wkg SMASHER for WX and reports 0145z ETA for CORONET OAK


ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: 718, A10, A50, CS1, CS3, CS6, CS9, D14, D23, F12, J10, J16, J32, LNT, M49, M70, OPB, PAC, TSC, X60

ALE addresses monitored on FBI Net: CL1, CO1, HQ1, IP1, LV1, OM2, SD1, SI1, SL1, WF1

ALE addresses monitored on USCG TISCOM Net: NOJ




Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

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From vculver at verizon.net  Wed Jul 14 20:12:51 2004
From: vculver at verizon.net (Vic/Johanna Culver)
Date: Wed Jul 14 20:14:21 2004
Subject: [MilCom] RE:  MILCOM -- Black Mountain
Message-ID: <GPEGKLFMCIKIAOCCLLFCAEEHCJAA.vculver@verizon.net>

Isn't Black Mountain one of those more-or-less secret facilities up in
Maryland/Pennsylvania where it is supposed there are huge facilities for
some unknown purpose -- most likely major re-location site if/when Wash.
D.C. becomes 'untenable?'  There are 'hotel' type facilities in other places
but this one is probably related to East Coast Command and Control, or maybe
legislative functions.  They don't talk a lot about it.  I dunno -- maybe
Billy B. or Steve can fill in some details.  Vic
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From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Wed Jul 14 20:47:19 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Wed Jul 14 20:48:52 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Charleston AFB Logs 14 July 04
Message-ID: <009e01c46a05$49876fd0$64da4fd8@Marks>

349.400 Charleston CP
------------------------
LIFTER 20
REACH 1192
REACH 375T inbound 0139z, 6 crew
REACH 1196 departing 0230z
LIFTER 19
MOOSE 40 Flight
REACH A612
MOOSE 44
REACH 398T (C-17A tail # 98-0056) inbound 1906z, 7 PAX
GRITS 21


372.200 Dispatch
--------------------
JOSA 859 (C-21A)


344.600 Meteo
-----------------
BENGAL 41 (F/A-18D, VMFA-224)


319.200 KZJX, Columbia
--------------------------
SKULL 28 (B-52H)


354.300 Poinsett
-----------------
SKULL 28 (B-52H)


279.550
---------
STING 91 (F-16CJ, 55 FS)


284.500 Sealord
------------------
MACE 31/32 (F-16CJ, 157 FS)
DRAGNET (E-3 AWACS) w/SEALORD. Reports FANGS are talking to their tanker now


381.350 Doubleshot
---------------------
MACE 31/32 (F-16CJ, 157 FS)


269.000 Gamecock
---------------------
ROYAL 51 (F-16CJ, 77 FS)
CLAW 81 (F-16CJ, 79 FS)


379.100 Gamecock
---------------------
ROYAL 51/52 (F-16CJ, 77 FS)
POKER 61 (F-16CJ, 77 FS)
BENGAL 41 (F/A-18D, VMFA-224)
CLAW 81 (F-16CJ, 79 FS)


264.700 Poinsett
------------------
CLAW 81 (F-16CJ, 79 FS)


165.2375 CBP
----------------
 INDIA 1132 w/SECTOR




Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

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From w4tey at bellsouth.net  Wed Jul 14 21:16:01 2004
From: w4tey at bellsouth.net (Ed Yeary)
Date: Wed Jul 14 21:14:47 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Black Mountain
References: <405fd2fbd26e4c5a8f5f4b67a09afab4.n5wv@eastex.net>
Message-ID: <004d01c46a09$4b46d640$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com>

There is also a Black Mountain in SE Ky. not too far from here in E. TN.
There is a very good amateur repeater on it on 147.210. Doubt it's the one
referred to though.
Ed Yeary W4TEY
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <n5wv@eastex.net>
To: <milcom@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 4:45 AM
Subject: [MilCom] Black Mountain


Hello Group  ,  Does anyone know the location of a "Black Mountain" ? I have
heard what sounds like helo's working "Rescue Op's" on 6713.5 USB . The only
location that I have heard them refer to is "Black Mountain". The signal is
very weak and the band is very noisey. Also FYI the callsign "Jambo ##" has
been changed to "Skull ##" for the B-52's from the 93rd BS out of KBAD
,"Barksdale AFB". The callsigns; Doom ## , Scalp ## and Tuff ## remain
unchanged. A/A frequencies are; 228.150 , 228.225 , 228.250 , 228.325 ,
228.350 , 228.450 and 392.200. AFRES A-10 A/A ; 138.900 , 139.800 , 139.900
, 140.000 and 141.500. Winchester Op's; 141.500.   Thanks ,  Randy

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From w4tey at bellsouth.net  Wed Jul 14 21:19:14 2004
From: w4tey at bellsouth.net (Ed Yeary)
Date: Wed Jul 14 21:17:51 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Re: Talkabouts and Terrorists
References: <071420041149.22327.40F51DDA00092C340000573722007348309C0501019D0DD20A02070E040D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <005401c46a09$be28a080$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com>

I didn't think it was kosher to make political statements on these lists.
Especially one as full of crap as this one.
Ed Yeary W4TEY
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <blaine.brooks@comcast.net>
To: <milcom@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 7:49 AM
Subject: [MilCom] Re: Talkabouts and Terrorists


>
>
>
> > apparently some of the Taliban may have been using Motorola
> > "Talkabouts" (FRS/GMRS radios)
>
> > had modified portable telephone to operate as walkie talkies
>
> Oh great....Paranoia grips our nation even more!. Good grief...
> Watch for the Taliban using FRS radios at your local playground!...
> And don't forget to report to the FBI any person you see wearing
> a turban and talking on a cell phone!.  According to Dubya and
> Tom Ridge, they're all terrorists, and they're everywhere!.
> Run for the hills, and forget your liberties!...
> Blaine Brooks
> Flower Mound, Tx.
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From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Wed Jul 14 21:31:34 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 14 21:33:12 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 14 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <cf.11479a47.2e273876@aol.com>

Still fairly busy.

275.80:  STUD-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared to Cheyenne MOA.
275.80:  REDEYE-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out for 3 sorites 
to Cheyenne MOA.
319.00:  VIPER-1, (?F-16?), with Denver Center, FL 370.
372.20:  SPACE-1, (C-21A), takeoff Colorado Springs.
372.20:  SMOKY-12, (C-21A, Peterson), takeoff Colorado Springs.
319.00:  RIBBY-1, (F-16, Eglin), with Denver Center, FL 430. Switch 323.25.
275.80:  STUD-21, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared to Airburst Range.
291.675: REACH 5895, (C-130, Little Rock), land.
372.20:  JOSA-661, (C-21A, Peterson), takeoff Colorado Springs. Return later.
319.00:  MUSTANG-2, (Unk), with Denver Center, FL 280. Wants to turn 12 miles 
short of their next point and proceed direct Rattlesnake VORTAC; then planned 
flight route. Switch 380.15. ((Sounded like B-1 or B-52))
228.45:  MARLIN-2, (?P-3C, VP-40, Whidbey?), request update on WX between 
Denver and Memphis, TN. ((Don't know if it was P-3, but was definitely a 
turboprop))
372.20:  SMOKY-34, (C-21A, Peterson), calling Petersohn PTD.
118.50:  SPAR-41, (Unk), land Colorado Springs.
372.20:  JOSA-490, (C-21A, Peterson), land Colorado Springs.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From mystic at ikansas.com  Wed Jul 14 20:05:13 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Wed Jul 14 21:54:18 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	14 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <000b01c46a0e$42f8bb20$31cb2740@u5a3b0>

316.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE PRIMARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
0035Z - HAWKEYE-11 FLIGHT playing on the playground
0142Z - DARK-24 on playground
1539Z - LOBO-41 FLIGHT playing
1640Z - DARK-33 FLIGHT (2 X B-1b) playing w/ ANTIDOTE
1911Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT checking in w/ SANDHOG, abort code TARHEEL
2017Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT checking in w/ ANTIDOTE

363.200 (KZKC SALINA)
0103Z - HAWKEYE-11 FLIGHT push UNIFORM-16
1621Z - LOBO-41 FLIGHT (UNIFORM-13)
1906Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT inbound to playground
2019Z - DUKE-23 passing thru enroute to VANCE
2052Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT off SMOKY RANGE @ 16.5

296.600 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
0104Z - HAWKEYE-11 FLIGHT checks in (UNIFORM-16)
1624Z - LOBO-41 FLIGHT checking in @ FL 230 rqst 35; push UNIFORM-12
1748Z - DUKE-23
1859Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT rqst direct SMOKY HILL RANGE
2054Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT @ FL 180 for 230 & climbing to FL 290; push 12

285.400 (KZKC EMPORIA)
0035Z - SCALP-94

337.400 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
1749Z - DARK-33
1750Z - DUKE-31, direct _____, direct VANCE

307.200 (KZMP HASTINGS)
1627Z - LOBO-41 (UNIFORM-12) FLIGHT checking in @ FL 280 & do you have our
rqst for higher?
2056Z - LOBO-11 (UNIFORM-12) FLIGHT in the BLOCK 270 - 2XX

317.700 (KZMP MARYSVILLE)
2017Z - DUKE-23 rqst UNIFORM; Rg, 363.2

134.900 (KZKC SALINA)
0309Z - KANZA-49

120.200 (KZKC EMPORIA)
0313Z - KANZA-49
1723Z - TURBO-43 descending to do multiple approaches @ KFOE

123.800 (KZKC TOPEKA)
1736Z - TURBO-43 co-ordinating for muliple approaches

135.100 (KZMP HASTINGS)
0132Z - KANZA-44 direct FT. DODGE, WICHITA, McCONNELL
1846Z - GASSER-65 co-ordinating for higher block to conduct AR OPNS

138.200 (132nd FW IAANG; DES MOINES, IOWA: VICTOR-12)
1910Z - CYCLONE-01 & CYCLONE-02 (02 had hung bomb & they switched to
VICTOR-01 & no joy today for VICTOR-01 (138.15)

138.300 (132nd FW IAANG; DES MOINES, IOWA: VICTOR-13)
0035Z - HAWKEYE-11 & HAWKEYE-12

225.500 (931st ARG; McCONNELL AFB: A-2-A)
0052Z - KANZA-49 & KANZA-44

139.700 (114th FW SDANG; SOUIX FALLS, SOUTH DAKOTA: VICTOR-13)
1540Z - LOBO-41 & LOBO-42
2030Z - LOBO-11 & LOBO-12

388.850 (509th BOMB WING; WHITEMAN AFB: A-2-A)
0735Z - SPIRIT-01 FLIGHT push ADIS
0743Z - SPIRITs go 24 ____ bound in 20; 02 copies that
0746Z - go BUTTON-09 AUX

297.300 (PAWNEE-LAMONI AR TRACK PRIMARY)
0145Z - HAPPY-64 conduct AR OPNS w/ COBRA-47
0155Z - KANZA-49 de SKULL-25; Rg SKULL-25 de KANZA-49, there is someone
already on this freq. Go 396.2
1645Z - GASSER-66 conduct AR OPNS w/ SNOOP-43 (640843)
1845Z - GASSER-65 (600360)  co-ordinating w/ CORVUS-29 (624129) to conduct
AR OPNS

396.200 (PAWNEE-LAMONI AR TRACK SECONDARY)
0155Z - KANZA-49 co-ordinating w/ SKULL-25 to conduct AR OPNS in the BLOCK
26 - 28

366.300 (AR-116 PRIMARY)
1544Z - KANZA-51 conducts AR OPNS w/ ROUGE-07

260.200 (AR-116 SECONDARY)
1544Z - KANZA-53 co-ordinating w/ DOOM-91 (600048) to conduct AR OPNS
1550Z - DOOM-91 de ROUGE-07, we are on a check ride & would love to have a
bit of YOUR gas

134.850 (KICT APP - DEP)
0316Z - KANZA-49 cleared down to 6000

326.200 (KEND APP)
2016Z - HYDRA-02
2039Z - HYDRA-02 going ADIS
2049Z - DUKE-23
2115Z - BISON-05
2126Z - DUKE-55
2126Z - DUKE-30 passing _____ for 3000

126.200 (KFRI TOWER)
1802Z - GUARD-962 (sounded like), a UH-60 is inbound to pick up passengers &
orbit the impact area for about an half hour.  Do you provide advisories?
Rg, 248.65 for advisories

227.400 (KOFF METRO)
2016Z - DUKE-23 rqst forecast for VANCE AFB in 20 minutes

344.600 (KSZL METRO)
1647Z - DILLON-02 (C-21 self-ident @ FL 410) checking T-STORMs enroute to
ADW. ETA is 2 hours from now
2047Z - ANY METRO de OCEAN-56 calling on 344.6

375.200 (KIAB METRO)
2228Z - NAVY JA04 rqsting weather forecast for 0100Z & status of ______
Tornado ______
(can you say broken & distorted?)

311.000 (COMMAND POST)
1918Z - RAYMOND-21 de BISON-66, on deck in ?? minutes

321.000 (COMMAND POST)
0053Z - RAYMOND-21 de KANZA-49, rqst status of COBRA-99.  What time was
COBRA-99 a MAINT CANCEL?  OK, if you find someone call DSN 650-0566 & get
PERMISSION fm McCONNELL CMD POST to conduct the AR so that it will NOT be
considered a bootleg.

381.300 (COMMAND POST)
0748Z - SPIRIT CONTROL de SPIRIT-01; 15 minutes out w/ ZERO brevities
(BUTTON-09 AUX)
2221Z - FURY-31

370.100 (TACAMO)
1910Z - (WFM) modem w/ phone dialing followed by voice & then another phone
call

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Wed Jul 14 22:24:53 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Wed Jul 14 22:26:36 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF Logs 14 July 04
Message-ID: <015301c46a12$eb9ac1c0$64da4fd8@Marks>

0032Z    11232.0    ZOOM 283 wkg TRENTON MILITARY for WX at Toronto, Hamilton, and Ottawa

0113Z    5717.0    HALIFAX MILITARY wkg RESCUE 908 with request from RCC to know if they need a stretcher from the hospital or will use one on the aircraft

0122Z    11205.0    SHARK 78 calling SMASHER with no answer

0210Z    5711.0    KING 15 wkg ANGEL OPS at Moody AFB

0216Z    5717.0    HALIFAX MILITARY warning unauthorized station off freq

0217Z    5717.0    MKL calling HALIFAX MILITARY with no answer

0223Z    5717.0    HALIFAX MILITARY calling RESCUE 908 with no answer

0311Z    5717.0    RESCUE 908 requests HALIFAX MILITARY pass to RCC their ETA of 0420Z to St. Johns

0333Z    5717.0    RESCUE 908 requests WX at St. Johns

0354Z    5696.0    P8C with 7 SOB in position bearing 165, 135 miles from homeplate requests guard from CAMSLANT

0417Z    11205.0    SHARK 76 check-in with SMASHER. Position 12-20N 066-40W, FL 230, heading 013, speed 300, squawk 5676. ETA TJSJ (Luis Munoz Marin, PR) 0540z

0422Z    5696.0    P8C requests secure comms check on 3E11 then 3E12

0427Z    6234.5    ANDVT

0434Z    8337.6    ANDVT

1234Z    8983.0    CG 2121 (HU-25) airborne from ATC Mobile for training

1235Z    8983.0    V5F with 6 POV airborne on LE patrol

[12:52:41][FRQ  7527000][TO ][LNT            ][TIS][J42            ][AL0] BER 26 SN 14 followed by JULIET 42 with 3 POV airborne from Elizabeth City en route Cape Hatteras for PAX pickup requests guard from CAMSLANT

1304Z    8983.0    OCEANA RADIO taking ops and position report from V5F and relaying to CAMSLANT via landline

1311Z    11202.0    V5F wkg OCEANA RADIO

1346Z    11202.0    OCEANA RADIO wkg CG 2120

1828Z    8983.0    51A requests guard from CAMSLANT

1909Z    11205.0    SHARK 70 wkg SMASHER

1948Z    11232.0    CANFORCE 4333 wkg TRENTON MILITARY for WX at Patrick AFB and Charleston AFB

2134Z    11191.0    GOLDENHAWK and WAFER 24 in comms

2159Z    5711.0    REACH 1027 calling any KING then calling ANGEL OPS with no answer

2222Z    13927.0    REACH 1027 morale p/p via AFA4DD to 229-XXX-XXXX Georgia. Reports 45 minute ETA to Moody AFB

2237Z    11494.0    19C position report to PANTHER. Bearing 193, 11 miles from D1. PANTHER states PANTHER 200 requests to know if they have PPR for Guantanamo Bay. 19C secures guard with PANTHER

2300Z    10993.6    ANDVT

2301Z    8983.0    CG 2105 (HU-25, CGAS Miami) ops normal report to CAMSLANT


ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: 703, 717, A70, C02, C03, C06, C10, COE, CS1, CS2, CS3, CS5, CS6, CS7, CS8, CS9, D14, D23, D43, D48, D69, D70, F40, FL2, I1L, I34, I37, I49, I54, I55, I57, J09, J13, J14, J18, J19, J25, J36, J38, J42, LNT, M46, M53, OPB, PAC, T03, TSC, UCG, X61

ALE addresses monitored on FBI Net: AT1, CL1, CO1, ME1, OM2, WF1

ALE addresses monitored on USCG TISCOM Net: NOJ




Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
http://www.wunclub.com/files/uscg_air.html
https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From blaine.brooks at comcast.net  Wed Jul 14 22:31:17 2004
From: blaine.brooks at comcast.net (Blaine Brooks)
Date: Wed Jul 14 22:32:51 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Re: New Uniden Portables NOT MILCOM Capable!? 
References: <20040711080053.8693F859DCB@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <001701c46a13$cee518e0$6401a8c0@brooks>


> Now if only you had the time to compare your results 
> with a known radio like the pro 43, we'd really appreciate it.

Unfortunately, I don't have a PRO-43 to compare it to.
I wish I did. The PRO-43 IMO still rules the roost as one
of the best portables around for milair if you can get your
hands on one. Actually, there would really be no use in 
comparing the PRO-43 to the PRO-96 in the milair band. 
The 43 would win hands down. Remember, the PRO-43 
came with this band included on the radio as a default. The 
PRO-96 does not. The milair band is only activated with 
Don Star's Win96 program as "extended frequencies". 

> I'm not too technical as some people in the hobby are, but if the
> difference in reception is not noticable for aircraft comms at an
> airshow, THAT I'm sure will make people think about whether or not it is
> worth it.

I'm certainly not a techie either, but for me it works fine at an airshow
with the standard duckie antenna. Plus, you have all the other features
of the radio in a nice little package.

> I think the general feeling is this radio does not have the reach, and
> never claimed to to pull in distant milair comms, but it takes someone
> who's  got the cash to buy it and try it.

Your statement is true in that the radio never claimed to be for milair.
I personally bought the radio for the P25 digital decoding already in
the radio, the alpha numeric labels, and the trunking capabilities. I
did not buy it for milcom, although the extended frequencies is a 
nice capability of it. 99% of my listening with my PRO-96 is for 
things other than milcom, and I think for that it's a great investment.
In a side by side comparison with my BC780 hooked up to my 
outside discone, the PRO-96 will pick up the same milair my 780
does. However, with just the duckie attached, the 780 does MUCH better.
In a mobile situation, sometimes it picks up well and sometimes its
dead...It just all depends on the altitude of the aircraft. Personally,  I 
wouldn't recommend the 96 as a MILAIR ONLY radio, but rather for 
someone interested in an all encompassing scanner that can do a little 
bit of everything, and generally do it quite well.

Blaine Brooks
Flower Mound, Tx.

From BobLangley at charter.net  Wed Jul 14 22:36:19 2004
From: BobLangley at charter.net (Bob Langley)
Date: Wed Jul 14 22:37:53 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Black Mountain
References: <405fd2fbd26e4c5a8f5f4b67a09afab4.n5wv@eastex.net>
Message-ID: <000b01c46a14$83057680$6401a8c0@FAMILY>

I show 6.7135 as Moffett Rescue in California, for the Jolly AFRES helos.
>From several years ago, but I'm guessing it might be them.  That freq is
also used by JSTARS, and the KC-135's based at McGhee-Tyson Airport in TN.

Bob Langley
Atlanta, GA

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <milcom@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 4:45 AM
Subject: [MilCom] Black Mountain


Hello Group  ,  Does anyone know the location of a "Black Mountain" ? I have
heard what sounds like helo's working "Rescue Op's" on 6713.5 USB . The only
location that I have heard them refer to is "Black Mountain". The signal is
very weak and the band is very noisey. Also FYI the callsign "Jambo ##" has
been changed to "Skull ##" for the B-52's from the 93rd BS out of KBAD
,"Barksdale AFB". The callsigns; Doom ## , Scalp ## and Tuff ## remain
unchanged. A/A frequencies are; 228.150 , 228.225 , 228.250 , 228.325 ,
228.350 , 228.450 and 392.200. AFRES A-10 A/A ; 138.900 , 139.800 , 139.900
, 140.000 and 141.500. Winchester Op's; 141.500.   Thanks ,  Randy

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From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Wed Jul 14 23:52:11 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 14 23:53:44 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/14/04
Message-ID: <1ef.254fc89e.2e27596b@aol.com>

Not much out of the usual today, Lots of JOSAs & PATs roaming the skies.

OMNI-03 (E-2) 120.75>121.0>119.8, takeoff Dobbins. 

DAWG-57 (C-130, GA-ANG, Savannah) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart 
around 1400z)

OMNI-02 (E-2) 120.75>121.0>125.7, takeoff Dobbins. (Anyone know who these 
guys might've been?)

PAT-957 (UC-35) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Langley (KLFI).

PAT-919 (UC-35) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Whiteman (KSZL).

RIVER-31 (F/A-18, NAS JRB New Orleans) 370.875>268.7>284.7, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared to Navy New Orleans (KNBG).

GATOR-11 flight of 3 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7>284.7, takeoff 
Dobbins. Cleared to Navy Pensacola (KNPA). (Would return around 2045z)

NAVY 7B-777 (UC-12, NAS Atlanta) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

ROCKET-16 (F-16) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

GATOR-91 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7>254.35, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared 
to Marine Beaufort (KNBC). (Would return around 2020z)

RAPTOR-10 (F/A-22, Tyndall, # 02-4028 w/ F-16, # 948)  370.875>346.8, takeoff 
Dobbins. (Shot three approaches then back in due to possible probs, Just 
worked pattern due to bad wx in NW.GA)

GUARD-21735 (UH-1, Dobbins) 346.8, takeoff Dobbins. (Worked GCA Pattern for 
about an hour, then back in, 2215z)

PAT-759 (??) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

GATOR-21 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

JOSA-859 (C-21) 120.75>121.0>125.7>133.1, takeoff Dobbins.

GUARD-21857 (UH-1, Dobbins) 120.75, (Working in the area throughout the 
night.)
----------------------------------------------------
                   MISC
JOSA-989 (C-21) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 125.7
PAT-234 (??) takeoff KFTY 118.5>121.0>135.0
PAT-647 (??) lands KFTY (118.5)
PAT-044 (??)  takeoff KFTY 118.5>121.0
PAT-139 (??) lands KFTY (118.5) (Would later depart around 2110z)
JOSA-349 (C-21) w/ Maxwell Dispatch (372.2)  Pax pickup, ETA 1510z,A1
JOSA-463 (C-21, Tail# 4-0123) w/ Maxwell Dispatch (372.2)  3 DVs onboard, 3k 
lbs of gas needed,A1.
----------------------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga
From jehaverlah at pdq.net  Thu Jul 15 00:12:55 2004
From: jehaverlah at pdq.net (Jeff Haverlah)
Date: Thu Jul 15 00:15:24 2004
Subject: [MilCom] MIL: 13155.0 - NEW GUARD
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20040714231104.00a23660@mail.pdq.net>

0411z  15 Jul 04

      13155.0 was active at 0407z with NEW GUARD (or sounds like; 
weak/readable levels here) bcsting a 28-character EAM (DR5H?7; ? = A or O), 
simulcasting same on 11244.0 (weak/readable), 8992.0 (weak/fair) and 6697.0 
(weak/fair).  H+07/h+37 activity.

Jeff Haverlah

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jeff Haverlah               Coastal Texas           jehaverlah@pdq.net
      Drake R7 (Gilfer Mod)  Drake R8B               Ten-Tec RX320/GNRX320
      Panasonic RFB-65       JPS NIR-12/ANC-4        "wires" and loops
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Thu Jul 15 00:36:04 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Thu Jul 15 00:37:38 2004
Subject: [MilCom] MIL: 13155.0 - NEW GUARD
In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20040714231104.00a23660@mail.pdq.net>
References: <4.2.2.20040714231104.00a23660@mail.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <40F609B4.90503@verizon.net>

I copied DR5HO7 on 6697.0 at 0337 and 0407

Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA



Jeff Haverlah wrote:

> 0411z  15 Jul 04
>
>      13155.0 was active at 0407z with NEW GUARD (or sounds like; 
> weak/readable levels here) bcsting a 28-character EAM (DR5H?7; ? = A 
> or O), simulcasting same on 11244.0 (weak/readable), 8992.0 
> (weak/fair) and 6697.0 (weak/fair).  H+07/h+37 activity.
>
> Jeff Haverlah
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>
> Jeff Haverlah               Coastal Texas           jehaverlah@pdq.net
>      Drake R7 (Gilfer Mod)  Drake R8B               Ten-Tec RX320/GNRX320
>      Panasonic RFB-65       JPS NIR-12/ANC-4        "wires" and loops
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>
>
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From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Thu Jul 15 01:48:32 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Thu Jul 15 01:50:13 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Seattle Milcom JULY 14
Message-ID: <40F61AB0.2060302@verizon.net>

NAS Whidbey arrivals 120.7, 270.8 Appr Ctl

PUGET 13
PUGET 14
PUGET 15
TIMBER 32
EAGLE 12
RAYGUN 2

McChord AFB arrivals 124.8 Tower, 349.4 CP

REACH 8055
REACH 2108
TOTEM 10

Misc

311.0 Fairchild AFB CP.
BEAK 94 30 minutes out
PAT 743 C-12 inbound

269.0 Seattle Center. REDEYE 01 cleared to Klamath Falls


Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA
Northwest Aircraft Communications
http://microvoltradio.com/

From ronvking at ntlworld.com  Thu Jul 15 06:50:48 2004
From: ronvking at ntlworld.com (Ron King)
Date: Thu Jul 15 06:52:15 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Lakenheath 14/7
Message-ID: <000001c46a59$9825bc60$b8a90050@desktop>

 
Hi Folks,
 
First apologies for delay in posting, got home this morning at 0200 and
then found that my e-mail and broadband had gone belly up and only just
sorted out the problem.
 
Took a visit to Lakenheath yesterday to try and find the Reaper ops
freq. In that I failed dispite seaching the bands for a few hours,
however did confirm quite a few frqs in the meantime.
 
LAKENHEATH
APCH 315.5750
A/A 231.8250 Used by BOLAR
A/A 232.0750
A/A 263.3000 Callsign not heard
A/A 264.6000 Callsign not heard
A/A 279.1750 Used by GRIM
A/A 279.4750 Used by GRIM
A/A 341.6750 Used by COUGAR
A/A 343.5500 Used by PANTHER - COUGAR
A/A 358.3500 Used by COUGAR
A/A 358.9500 Used by CASINO
A/A 359.2250 Used by COUGAR
C. POST 269.0750
DEPT 136.5000
DEPT 242.0750
GCA  259.0500
GCA  309.0750
GRND 231.4250
OPS 362.1250 Used by COUGAR
OPS 372.3000 Used by PANTHER - CASINO - BOLAR
RAPCON 337.6000
SQDN OPS 369.5750 Used by BOLAR
SQDN OPS 337.5750
TWR 358.6750
ZONE 128.9000
ZONE 365.9750
 
One very interesting conversation was heard, my scan stopped on 243.425
and it was "Aircraft 583" calling "Lakenheath Ground for a radio check"
but getting no reply. A couple of minutes later he came up on the ground
freq 231.425 and asked for a radio check and then asked the ground
controller what 243.425 was for. He was advised she didnt know. Later he
kept blowing into his mike and got told off for using an active freq for
his tests and to stop blowing into the mike on grounds freq. As a side
note when someone does that where I work I normally reply "Station
playing steam trains, you are loud and clear"
 
Also of note 
241.00 two RAF aircraft A/A, had that down for a poss Coningsby A/A so
might have been two Typhoons playing?
257.20 and 314.05 Lots of Spanish nattering, presume off NOMAD workers.
365.85 Bolar calling HIGHWAY, which I understand from a post on the DRMG
group is the mobile unit of BANDBOX.
123.60 Cambridge approach working NETHERLANDS Airforce 33.
 
Rgds Ron
From baycomm at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 15 10:11:46 2004
From: baycomm at earthlink.net (Greg Brazil)
Date: Thu Jul 15 10:13:41 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Poipu, Kauai Hawaii log
In-Reply-To: <p06020409bd1b2fc47c0b@[192.168.1.101]>
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040714111010.02001780@pop.flash.yahoo.com>
	<p06020409bd1b2fc47c0b@[192.168.1.101]>
Message-ID: <40F690A2.5010807@earthlink.net>

Rimpac 2004, probably USS John C. Stennis CVN 74.
Greg (SF Bay Area)

Mark Saran wrote:

> 357.1   Lots of helo activity with t'off and landings all day on Navy 
> ship just off shore(email me if you want a pic).
> 
> 266.4 talking about exercise - Mojack Dancer to Whisky 186  also 
> Huckleberry 01
> 313.3 Primary
> 290.8 Secondary
> 255.0 'Get well?' freq for all players
> 
> Other activity
> 
> 379.6
> 279.6
> 156.8/156.5 Warship 01 also on #13 and #69
> 275.2  difficult to deploy -returning to ship
> 374.3 01 to Eagle  Tower
> 277.8 (fleet common - same kind of traffic I hear in Western Washingtonn 
> - alpha/number/alpha units talking to each other
> 364.2
> 271.4
> 
> 
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From sdaitch at ibb.gov  Thu Jul 15 10:37:00 2004
From: sdaitch at ibb.gov (Sheldon Daitch)
Date: Thu Jul 15 10:38:36 2004
Subject: [MilCom] NYC Ground Stop
References: <010101c469e9$774ba880$6401a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>
Message-ID: <40F6968C.47728AE1@ibb.gov>

I wonder if it was because of the severe thunderstorms that were in the
Washington DC area mid afternoon, and most probably heading NE.

Sheldon

Ken wrote:

> KCEF Tower, 134.85 is reporting "ground stop" for aircraft heading into
> airports in NYC area.. Any idea ?
> 1725 hrs local).
>
> Ken
> Springfield MA Area
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From alan at gi0otc.org  Thu Jul 15 15:59:13 2004
From: alan at gi0otc.org (alan)
Date: Thu Jul 15 16:01:28 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Coronet Flt.
Message-ID: <000601c46aa6$38943950$0607a8c0@oldtimer>

Today heard CATTI 01 Flt. inbound off the Ocean with TREND 01 Flt.
Boomer was 396.200

Any info on who/where they were heading ?

Cheers.

oldtimer
N. Ireland

From nsawc1 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 15 16:44:46 2004
From: nsawc1 at yahoo.com (nsawc1)
Date: Thu Jul 15 16:46:32 2004
Subject: [MilCom] N.Cal/N.NV Tues & Wed
Message-ID: <cd6qbu+i4p9@eGroups.com>


A few of note:
125.700 ROLLER 80 C-130/192d AS - Touch & Go Sac Intl.
316.100 DRAGON 91 U-2S/9th RW - Check in
296.700 DRAGON 94 "     "   - passing 7 for 23 no
reply DRAGON 93 will relay comms if needed

McClellan Field 122.975
COAST GUARD 1703 C-130
EXPERIMENTAL 831 L-39C painted in VMFA-531 colors
tail #N831EF 
DRAKEN 530 Taxi test - N35350
photo here:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/614006/M/
EVERGREEN Huey N16973
T-28 Trojan s/n137793

RENO, NV 119.200
NASA doing some type of testing @ Reno & Stead
NASA 22 Gulfsteam G-V Multi touch/stop & go's. Would
also depart Reno for Stead and do similar
NASA 529 Beech 200 
Also a large NASA truck out on the tarmack
MUSTANG 63 CH-47/NvAANG - transit airspace for
waterfall fire   

316.100 BLOODHOUND 340 ?/VX-30 - also using callsign
BRAVO HOTEL requesting approaches into Tahoe Airport
311.100 TANKER 99 KC-10/ ? - with write up's and a
request to call foxtrot for vehicle 
285.500 HUSKY 15 C-17/446th AW - check in
285.500 BOGEY 08 F-5E/VFC-13 - request rubber neck on
fire will remain clear of TFR

Cheers



From kf4lmt at comcast.net  Thu Jul 15 17:34:30 2004
From: kf4lmt at comcast.net (Mac McCormick III)
Date: Thu Jul 15 17:36:08 2004
Subject: [MilCom] VMFA(AW)-533 to Iwakuni
Message-ID: <020b01c46ab3$875f8190$5aaa3344@rolandcea3qpbz>

http://thejetstreamonline.com/issues/jetstream/jet070904/

I just found an article from the MCAS Beaufort base
newspaper that indicates that VMFA(AW)-533 
"HAWKS" will depart from Beaufort for MCAS Iwakuni,
Japan Friday and Monday.  The issue is dated from last
Friday, so I don't know if it meant last Friday or this
Friday.  I worked last Friday and this Monday and didn't
hear them depart.  If I catch anything tomorrow, I'll be sure 
to pass it on.

Mac McCormick                      "Green Comms Suck"
Savannah, GA
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/kf4lmt/index.html

From kf4lmt at comcast.net  Thu Jul 15 17:47:36 2004
From: kf4lmt at comcast.net (Mac McCormick III)
Date: Thu Jul 15 17:49:12 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Re: VMFA(AW)-533 to Iwakuni
Message-ID: <022d01c46ab5$5d1aaa70$5aaa3344@rolandcea3qpbz>

I found some more info on the Westpac deployment by
VMFA(AW)-533:

VMFA(AW)-533 Departure:
http://www.beaufortgazette.com/local_news/briefs/story/3687564p-3292289c.html

VMFA-251 Return:
http://www.beaufortgazette.com/state_news/regional/story/3687645p-3292381c.html

My works schedule kept from hearing any of this.  Has
anyone managed to catch either squadron during their
move?


Mac McCormick                      "Green Comms Suck"
Savannah, GA
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/kf4lmt/index.html


From thewileys210 at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 15 19:44:53 2004
From: thewileys210 at hotmail.com (Barry Wiley)
Date: Thu Jul 15 19:46:32 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Middle Ga. logs (Early Morning)
Message-ID: <BAY19-F17QHtMFaukyC000549b7@hotmail.com>

Moody
SPIKE- 327.4 acm 269.4, 233.7
BASIN 233.7
GOBLIN 380.425
GROWL 310.825

Robins
ROGUE 19 lands at ROBINS 360.75, 320.1

Peachtree
RAZOR 33 293.525 passing line writeups

Bulldog Moa
SHOOTER 138.3 acm 343.75
STORMY 343.75

SKYWATCH
SKEETER 1&2 (self id as a flight of 2 A-10s) 249.5, 300.9

ARTCC
ROCKET 505- 371.95, 254.35
CHECK 68- 239.35
GATOR 21- 269.1


     Barry


From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Thu Jul 15 20:16:34 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Thu Jul 15 20:53:16 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Charleston AFB Logs 15 July 04
Message-ID: <009001c46acf$0c2d33c0$bcd94fd8@Marks>

349.400 Charleston CP
------------------------
REACH 328T
GRITS 21
REACH 483Y
REACH 7046 inbound 2035z
REACH 7044
LIFTER 93
REACH 180


379.100 JAX CTR
--------------------
REACH 9041
HELLCAT 71 (F-16CJ, 79 FS)


269.000/379.100 Gamecock
------------------------------
GAMBLER 61-64 (F-16CJ, 77 FS)
MIRAGE 51 (F-16CJ, 77 FS)


279.500
---------
CLAW 81 (F-16CJ, 79 FS)


157.050 USCG
------------------
CG 6523 (HH-65B)




Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
http://www.wunclub.com/files/uscg_air.html
https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Thu Jul 15 20:50:56 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Thu Jul 15 20:53:38 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF Logs 15 July 04
Message-ID: <009201c46acf$14e25bd0$bcd94fd8@Marks>

[00:03:06][FRQ  5732000][TO ][717            ][TIS][LNT            ][AL0] BER 29 SN 17 followed by 717 with position report to CAMSLANT. 27-49N 082-44W

0006Z    5711.0    ANDVT

0012Z    8912.0    JULIET 42 in position 36-35N 076-13W requests guard from CAMSLANT

[00:14:45][FRQ  5732000][TO ][J13            ][TIS][LNT            ][AL0] BER 26 SN 13 followed by JULIET 13 wkg SERVICE CENTER who connects them to CAMSLANT so they can pass ops normal report

0023Z    8912.0    19C secures guard with PANTHER

0044Z    5696.0    CG 2140 p/p via CAMSLANT to CAPE AIR who diverts them for a Medevac on Martha's Vineyard. They request to know if they have enough fuel to proceed to Martha's Vineyard and pick up patient and a nurse and fly them to Providence where they will refuel. They have enough fuel, but Cape Air requests they RTB for hot fuel.

0058Z    13927.0    WHISPER 56 (in the Middle East) morale p/p via AFA1RE Maine to 707-XXX-XXXX California

0137Z    5696.0    CG 2140 airborne from Cape Cod with 5 SOB en route to Martha's Vineyard for Medevac

0158Z    8983.0    CG 2139 (HU-25, CGAS Miami) position report to CAMSLANT. 26-36N 081-34W

0215Z    8992.0    TURBO 25 (KC-135, 22 ARW) p/p via Puerto Rico HF-GCS to DSN 743-3251 SHOCKER CONTROL McConnell AFB to check status of their receivers. They are told their receivers, REAPER, flight of two, have cancelled. TURBO reports they are heading back to the pattern then requests Puerto Rico pass any current message traffic for DRU.

2021Z    11494.0    PANTHER wkg 61A. PANTHER states they were informed they are on their duty day until 1930 then asks if they plan to search NOVEMBER Sector prior to RTB


ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: 717, A58, A70, A97, C11, CS1, CS5, CS6, CS9, D14, D23, D43, D70, F39, F40, I86, J13, J19, J38, J42, LNT, OPB, PR1, T60, X61

ALE addresses monitored on US Army 160th SOAR ALE Net: 814383, 854194, CLS, HTR

ALE addresses monitored on USAF ALE: 537982, ADW, CRO, HAW, JNR, OFF, PLA, RIC

ALE addresses monitored on USCG TISCOM Net: NOJ


Closing station for vacation........




Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
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https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From mystic at ikansas.com  Thu Jul 15 21:03:41 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Thu Jul 15 21:09:08 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	15 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <00b301c46ad1$42c78e60$84cb2740@u5a3b0>

316.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE PRIMARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
0036Z - HAWKEYE-11 & HAWKEYE-12 w/ SANDHOG on the playground
1454Z - PANTHER-01 & PANTHER-02 w/ SANDHOG on playground
1633Z - FAST-14 ?viewing range?
1650Z - COOTER-01 & COOTER-02 w/ ANTIDOTE playing w/ their gun & other toys
1929Z - BULLDOG-01 & BULLDOG-02 w/ SANDHOG
2017Z - LOBO-11

363.200 (KZKC SALINA)
0026Z - HAWKEYE-11 FLIGHT out of 290 for 240 & cleared down to 10000
0108Z - HAWKEYE-11 FLIGHT, rqst direct DES MOINES
1528Z - PANTHER-01 FLIGHT, rqst direct DES MOINES
1650Z - FAST-14, rqst direct FORBES
1652Z - COOTER-01 FLIGHT, cancels & will see you on the way out
1742Z - COOTER-01 FLIGHT off R-3601, 2 ALPHA-10s rqst RTB WHITEMAN
1742Z - DUKE-61, 26 south of SALINA rqst direct FORBES; flight of 2
TANGO-38s in tactical formation
2018Z - LOBO-11 out of 230 for 15000
2040Z - LOBO-11

296.600 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
0111Z - HAWKEYE-11 @ FL 230, 240 for HAWKEYE-11; out of 240 for 250
1454Z - CASINO-05 push 273.6
1531Z - PANTHER-01 FLIGHT
1723Z - DUKE-14 FLIGHT rqst the BLOCK 290 - 310
2008Z - LOBO-11 BLOCK 270 - 290
2009Z - BULLDOG-01 FLIGHT FL 260
2044Z - LOBO-11 cleared to FL 280

285.400 (KZKC EMPORIA)
1720Z - DUKE-14 FLIGHT

277.400 (KZKC SPRINGFIELD)
1505Z - DEMO-01 out of 280 for 240

307.200 (KZMP HASTINGS)
2051Z - LOBO-11

346.300 (KZMP LINCOLN)
1736Z - DUKE-14 FLIGHT push 270.3

120.200 (KZKC EMPORIA)
1912Z - GASSER-31 rqst FL 210 & JAMBO-55 rqst FL 190 direct ALTUS
2336Z - CHEROKEE-47979 rqst VFR OFFUTT AFB.  (will the words OFFUTT AFB
stopped me :~)
N47979 1977 PIPER PA-28-161, OFFUTT AERO CLUB, OFFUTT AFB NE

128.750 (KZMP LINCOLN)
1628Z - _____-51 co-ordinating altitude for AR OPNS w/ SENTRY-01

138.400 (132nd FW IAANG; DES MOINES, IOWA: VICTOR-14)
0020Z - HAWKEYE-11 FLIGHT
0044Z - push VICTOR-18 for RANGER
0045Z - HAWKEYE-11 FLIGHT

138.300 (132nd FW IAANG; DES MOINES, IOWA: VICTOR-13)
1454Z - PANTHER-01 FLIGHT
1920Z - BULLDOG-01 FLIGHT

149.525 (442nd FW; WHITEMAN AFB: VICTOR-17)
1705Z - COOTER-01 FLIGHT

139.700 (132nd FW IAANG; DES MOINES, IOWA: VICTOR-18)
0044Z - HAWKEYE-11, push 14

297.300 (PAWNEE-LAMONI AR TRACK PRIMARY)
0208Z - _____-57 conduct AR OPNS w/ COBRA-47
1631Z - _____-51 (623538) conduct AR OPNS w/ SENTRY-01 (770353)

305.500 (AR-330)
1806Z - GASSER-31 conduct AR OPNS w/ JAMBO-55

124.000 (KLNK APP -DEP)
0259Z - COBRA-47

270.300 (KLNK APP - DEP)
1739Z - DUKE-14 FLIGHT

326.200 (KEND APP)
2202Z - CODER-01 going ADIS
2203Z - CODER-11 
2222Z - BALL-72 will maintain 7000

255.400 (FLIGHT SERVICE)
2124Z - _____ de DUKE-13, flight of 2 T-38s; 5 minutes _______ (just love
BROKEN transmissions!)

375.200 (KIAB METRO)
2321Z - SPACE-01 rqsting update on weather in 1 hr since he departed 2 hrs
previously
(nasty old T-STORMS on the plains again)

364.200 (AICC)
1553Z - OKIE SAM de BANDSAW LIMA

370.100 (TACAMO)
1553Z (WFM) - modem

301.600 (184th ARW KSANG; McCONNELL AFB: TWISTER OPNS)
2100Z - JAYHAWK-11 is ?? minutes out w/ ?? write-ups

311.000 (COMMAND POST)
1456Z - UI passes EAM DR????; SIMULCASTED on 323.8 (hearability less than 1
on both freqs)

323.800 (ABN CMD POST)
1456Z - UI passes EAM DR????; SIMULCASTED on 311.0 (hearability less than 1
on both freqs)

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Thu Jul 15 22:16:21 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Thu Jul 15 22:18:04 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 15 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <144.2e41420c.2e289475@aol.com>

Again, busier than expected.

275.80:  STUD-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out to Veta/Chama MOA.
275.80:  REDEYE-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out for 3 sorties 
in Cheyenne MOA.
121.60:  REACH 5895, (C-130, Little Rock), cleared to Hill AFB.
372.20:  JOSA-673, (C-21A), takeoff Colorado Springs.
319.00:  LOBO-71, (B-52H, Barksdale), with Denver Center. Cleared direct 
Grand Junction. Switch 323.25. 
121.00:  PAT-379, (C-26B, Buckley), land.
228.45:  TULSA-4, (F-16, OK-ANG), request WX Hill AFB.
354.15:  LOBO-71, (B-52H, Barksdale), with Denver Center. Switch Albuquerque 
Center, 269.35.
349.20:  SENTRY-42, (AWAC, Tinker), requesting WX, but too weak to copy.
372.20:  JOSA-425, (C-21A, Peterson), land Colorado Springs.
121.00:  HELICOPTER 098, (CH-47), land. Probably either 88-0098 or 87-0098. 
349.20:  SPACE-1, (C-21A), requesting update on t-storms in Colorado Springs 
area.
319.00:  NIGHTMARE-81, flight of 2, (AV-8B, VMA-513, Yuma), with Denver 
Center, FL 310; descending to 270. Switching 363.15.
291.675: NIGHTMARE-81, flight of 2, (AV-8B, VMA-513), land.
349.20:  SENTRY-40, (AWAC, Tinker), request WX Mountain Home 0300.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From kf4lmt at comcast.net  Thu Jul 15 23:07:47 2004
From: kf4lmt at comcast.net (Mac McCormick III)
Date: Thu Jul 15 23:09:25 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Coastal GA MilCom; 15 July 2004
Message-ID: <002b01c46ae2$16b59a90$5aaa3344@rolandcea3qpbz>

Hunter AAF
-----------------
133.550/279.575     Tower
     -ARMY 167 (84-24167, B-2-159?)
     -ARMY 24118 (MH-47D, 3-160 SOAR)
     -ARMY 350 (MH-60L, 3-160 SOAR)
     -ARMY 556, 559 (UH-60L, 2-3 AVN)
     -GUARD 26657 (UH-60L, 1-151 AVN SC ARNG)
     -BERRY 540
     -HOOKER 62G (CH-47D, B-2-159 AVN)
     -JACKS (JAX?) 571
     -LONGBOW 319 (AH-64D, 1-3 AVN)
     -PAT 87
     -SUNNY 44 (RC-12N, 224 MI Bn)
     -TITAN 15 (KC-130, VMGR-253)
     -USCG 6523, 6551, 6594, 6595 (HH-65B, Savannah)
     
123.675     Base Ops
157.050     USCG Savannah Air (Ch. 21)
157.175     USCG Maintenance Control (Ch. 83)
309.000     PMSV
381.800     USCG Savannah Air
406.1625     Tower/Base Ops

   Fort Stewart Hunter TRS
     -2512     Wildlife Management
     -2640     Unknown
     -3504     Hunter Crash/Fire
     -3792     Unknown
     -5840     A/DACG
     -5872     Airfield Maintenance
        -including call from Wright Tower ref lighnting
         strike taking out 243.0 radio
     -6928     Building Inspections?
     
     
Savannah IAP/CRTC
----------------------------
119.100/257.800     Tower
     -DAWG 06 (C-130H, 165 AW)
     -GULF TEST 40, 42, 48 (Gulfstream Test Flights)
     -KING 22 (HC-130)
     
225.750      165 AW CP
     -DAWG 06
     
123.200    WCM9, GULF TEST ##
123.575    GULF TEST Operations

   Chatham/Savannah TRS
     -6096     Airport PD ref a/c down on runway
     -6640     ANG Crash/Fire ref a/c down on runway
          -ANG units reported a minor fuel leak and
           that both occupants were unhurt

     
MCAS Beaufort, SC
---------------------------
301.200     App/Dep
     -NICKEL 3# (F/A-18A+, VMFA-122)
     -CHECK 6# (F/A-18C, VMFA-312)
     
253.100     VMFA-122 Base
283.400     VMFA-122 Tac

301.950     VMFA-312 Tac


Shaw AFB
---------------
     I didn't log a lot of the callsigns, but Shaw flights
     were VERY active this morning working the Bulldog MOA
     and Poinsett Range:
     
264.700     Poinsett Range
343.750     Bulldog MOA

Air-to-Airs:
   138.025, 138.150, 141.600, 141.675, 141.775


SEADS
-----------
364.200     AICC
     -DRAGNET UNIFORM (E-3, 966 ACCS) wkg OAKGROVE for
      airspace, event coordination
     -DRAGNET UNIFORM wkg OAKIE SAM for link coordination
     
316.300     DRAGNET UNIFORM wkg OAKGROVE     
           

JointSTARS
-----------------
364.200     AICC; STARGATE (E-8C, 93 CTS) wkg DARKSTAR
                  ROMEO (E-3, 965 ACCS) and DRAGNET UNIFORM
                  (E-3, 966 ACCS) for Link Coordination
            
293.525     RAZOR 33 (E-8C, 93 CTS) wkg PEACHTREE

355.250     encrypted
376.126     encrypted
372.150     encrypted
381.000     STARGATE wkg FUJIN 51, simulated flight and
                  DAGGER LEAD, simulated convoy.
            
            
Townsend Range
------------------------
228.400     Range Control
269.350     Range Control
     -NICKEL 3# (F/A-18A+, VMFA-122)
     -VIPER 2# (F-16CJ, 169 FG); 141.925 a2a
     
     
SEALORD (W-157)
--------------------------
267.500/284.500     Primary
120.950/133.950     Primary
     -LL 14, 97 (P-3C, VP-30)
     -NICKEL 3# (F/A-18A+, VMFA-122)
     -GATOR 2# (F/A-18A, VMFA-142); 328.550 Tac
     -WIDGET 48 (E-9)
     -GULF TEST 40, 42, 48 (Gulfstream Test Flights)
     

DOUBLESHOT
---------------------
279.575     Primary
     -DRAGNET UNIFORM
     -MACE 31 (F-16CJ, 169 FG)
     -MACE 33 (F-16CJ, 169 FG)
     
258.400     MACE 31 wkg DRAGNET
381.350     MACE 33 wkg DRAGNET


Missile Test
-----------------
     Apparently the missile test this morning ended
     badly, with PAPA 2 reporting to BRAVO 9 that
     there was a "primary missile failure" and that
     it was "the same problem as last time"

234.600     NORAD Discrete, Missile Test
254.200     NORAD Discrete, Missile Test
     -BRAVO 9
     -PAPA 2
     -WIDGET 48 (E-9)
     -RUBY 5# (F-16)


Misc
--------    
157.050     USCG Ch. 21; USCG 6523 (HH-65B) wkg Auxillary
                  881 for training.

341.500     North Aux Field, SC
     -IMPAC 88, 89 wkg NORTH CCT


Mac McCormick                      "Green Comms Suck"
Savannah, GA
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/kf4lmt/index.html

From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Thu Jul 15 23:36:41 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Thu Jul 15 23:38:26 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/15/04
Message-ID: <138.318561f0.2e28a749@aol.com>

Decent one here.

COBB-60 flight of 3 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared to Augusta (KAGS).

COBB-84 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75.121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Augusta (KAGS).

GATOR-11 flight of 2 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared to Memphis (KMEM). (Would return around 2045z)

RAPTOR-10 (F/A-22, Tyndall, # 02-4028 w/ F-16 Chase) 370.875>268.7>290.8 (A/A 
255.725 & 142.2), takeoff Dobbins. (Would return around 1720z) (Would later 
depart around 2155z, Return around 2240z) (Serial caught on second flight.)

GATOR-21 flight of 2 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875 (A/A 328.55), lands 
Dobbins.

PAT-687 (UC-35) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart around 1615z, 
Cleared to Cairns AAF/ Fort Rucker (KOZR)). 

PAT-671 (UC-35) 120.75>121.0>118.5, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Fulton County 
AP (GA) (KFTY). (Would later depart FTY around 1650z, Return to FTY around 
1945z, Departs FTY at 2025z)

BRACE-01 (F/A-18?) 370.875, lands Dobbins. (Could've been an F-5.)

NAVY 7B-504 (UC-12, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Navy Mayport (KNRB). (Would return around 2000z)

PAT-967 (UC-35) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Syracuse-Hancock Int'l (KSYR). (Would  return around 2255z)

JOSA-425 (C-21, Peterson) 134.125, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart around 
1950z, Cleared to Colorado Springs (KCOS))

RIBBY-31 (F-16, Eglin) 370.875>268.7>284.7, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Eglin 
(KVPS).

BOGEY-30 (F-5, NAS Fallon) 370.875>268.7>284.7, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Navy Key West (KNQX).

SLUG-01 (E-2, NAS Norfolk) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

PAT-331 (??) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

COBB-60 flight of 2 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75>121.0>133.1, (A/A, 239.975), 
takeoff Dobbins. (Would return around 0230z)
--------------------------------------------------------------
                 MISC
JOSA-989 (C-21) lands KFTY (118.5)
PAT-587 (??) lands KFTY (118.5) (Would later depart around 1705z)
SLUFF-41 (KC-135, OH-ANG, Rickenbacker) calling COBB OPS (379.525) no reply. 
Called into Dobbins tower, went back to 379.525, still no reply. Later heard 
on FSS (255.4)
REACH-180 (C-17?) calling Charleston CP (349.4)
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga
From r_reining at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 16 00:19:06 2004
From: r_reining at yahoo.com (RICHARD REINING)
Date: Fri Jul 16 00:20:49 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Logs Houston TX [NASA]
Message-ID: <20040716041906.38142.qmail@web13902.mail.yahoo.com>

     07/16/04

126.050   0233Z   NASA 962 [T-38N] landing Ellington
                  Fld, TX


=====
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Houston TX USA
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From Rapbep at aol.com  Fri Jul 16 08:38:11 2004
From: Rapbep at aol.com (Rapbep@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul 16 08:40:07 2004
Subject: [MilCom] AF 1--Heads Up
Message-ID: <1c9.1bd488a0.2e292633@aol.com>

All,

Air Force 1 departed Andrews at 0835 EDT.

RON
MARYLAND, USA
PRO-2045 W/D-130J DISCONE
From jasney at earthlink.net  Fri Jul 16 09:54:04 2004
From: jasney at earthlink.net (Jim Ney)
Date: Fri Jul 16 09:56:01 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Photos
Message-ID: <003001c46b3c$5bc651b0$0200a8c0@DELL2>

BlankSome photos taken at the Udvar-Hazy Museum.  E-mail me for web site
address.


From Wa1lad at cox.net  Fri Jul 16 11:11:15 2004
From: Wa1lad at cox.net (Gil woodside)
Date: Fri Jul 16 11:13:05 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 149.540 FM in Prov, RI area
Message-ID: <000a01c46b47$23c687c0$bb1cfa18@S0031716010>

Been hearing slow-scan TV on 149.540 in the Providence,RI area. I'm not home so I can't decode it. Don't know if its connected to the Tall Ships being in Newport, RI this weekend. If anybody does decode this please post the pics.
Oh, the time is 1110hrs local and its still going.

thanks,
   Gil
From courir26 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 16 15:07:42 2004
From: courir26 at yahoo.com (Tom M.)
Date: Fri Jul 16 15:09:29 2004
Subject: [MilCom] CQ Rochester N.Y., re: Blue Angels
Message-ID: <20040716190742.25090.qmail@web51702.mail.yahoo.com>

Hey all in Rochester.  The Blues will be (are) in your town this weekend.

Step up and find the 3rd new freq.

The other two new ones are 265.0 and 284.25.


73 Tom


		
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From rfinder1 at verizon.net  Fri Jul 16 18:22:15 2004
From: rfinder1 at verizon.net (Ken)
Date: Fri Jul 16 18:24:02 2004
Subject: [MilCom] U/VHF Logs 7/1-7/15/04
Message-ID: <010a01c46b83$59b4b780$6501a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>

Springfield, Massachusetts monitoring area, period July 1st through July
15th,  2004.

CALLSIGNS HEARD (acft type if known):
BOBCAT 23 (T45)
COSMIC 41 (F16's)
COAST GUARD 2140 (HU25)
CORVET 1 & 2 (A10's)
DOWG 1 (A10?)
FURY 28 (UH60)
FURY 34 (UH60)
FURY 86 (UH60)
GUARD COPTER 132 (UH1)
GUARD COPTER 23621 (UH60)**
GUARD COPTER 23691 (UH60)
GUARD COPTER 23692 (UH60)
GUARD COPTER 23694 (UH60)****
GUMBY 1 (A10's)
HAIRBALL 1 (A10)
HOWDY 1 (A10's)*
HUNT 36 (C141?)
JAKE 1 (A10)*
MAKO 1 (A10's)*
PACTOR 51 (unk)
RHODY 34 (C130)
ROCK 92 (C130)
ROD 10 HEAVY (C5)*
ROD 11 HEAVY (C5)*
ROD 99 HEAVY (C5)*****
ROPER 92 (C130?)
TEAM 15 (KC10)
TEAM 16 (KC10)
TIGER 14 (P3)
TIGER 15 (P3)
TORCH 1 & 2 (A10's)
WESAL 1* & 2 (A10's)

FREQUENCIES ACTIVE:
46.75 MA Army National Guard Tactical/Ops @KBAF
118.35 KCEF Ground Control
118.9 KBAF Tower
123.95 KBDL Approach/Departure Control
125.35 KBDL Approach/Departure Control
132.65 ZBW ARTCC
134.85 KCEF Tower
138.1 KCEF ATIS
139.9 A10's air/air tactical
238.9 Air Refueling Ops/Tactical
251.1 KBAF Tower
252.10 439 AW Cmd Post "Casino Royale"
271.0 NEADS "Huntress" & KZBW ARTCC
274.75 KCEF Metro/Wx
275.8 KCEF Ground Control
307.9 KZBW ARTCC
311.0 101 ARW Cmd Post
323.2 KBDL Approach/Departure Control
325.8 KBDL Approach/Departure Control
348.3 KBDL Approach/Departure Control
348.75 KCEF Tower
349.7 103 FW Cmd Post "Shark Ops"
351.8 KBDL Tower
356.3 MA Army National Guard Tactical Ops @ KBAF
360.6 KZBW ARTCC
372.2 KCEF Base Operations
379.1 KZBW ARTCC
//end//

Ken





From radio3353 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 16 22:15:55 2004
From: radio3353 at yahoo.com (Bob)
Date: Fri Jul 16 22:17:57 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Recent SE PA Logs
Message-ID: <20040717021555.54407.qmail@web40406.mail.yahoo.com>

07/16/04
Willow Grove NAS/JRB (KNXX)
119.600/340.200 Tower
121.800/380.800 Ground
123.800/291.700 Departure (KPHL)

TOPGUN 01 (F/A-18, NSAWC, NAS Fallon, NV)lands WG at
2200Z.  He did a little buzzing around first before
landing.  Didn't get a visual, though!

=====
Bob
Bucks County, PA  USA


	
		
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From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Fri Jul 16 22:49:41 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul 16 22:51:36 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 16 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <1d7.2613e63d.2e29edc5@aol.com>

Finally, a fairly busy Friday. 

First a short one from late last night:
230.80:  GUARD 22457, (UH-1, CO-ArNG, Buckley), reported hitting large bird 
during night training flight. Decalred IFE and made emergency landing near  
Limon, CO. Guard 16711, (another UH-1), went out to pick up the crew. Left the 
heli there for the night.

OK, now for today:

275.80:  NIGHTMARE-81, flight of 2, (AV-8B, VMA-513, Yuma), cleared to 
Offutt. ((Enroute to Dayton Airshow))
289.40:  VANDY-12, (T-1A, Vance), attempting to call Scenic Control af AF 
Academy. Switched to Academy Tower, 320.10; also with no luck. 
275.80:  STUD-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared to Whiteman. ((Also 
enroute Dayton Airshow))
275.80:  REDEYE-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared our on VR-413.
121.00:  ROLLER-76, (C-130H, NV-ANG), land; then out on Round-Robin over 
eastern Colorado.
121.00:  GUARD 22457, (UH-1, ArNG, Buckley), RTB Buckley from last night's 
little mishap.
372.20:  TETON-55, (C-130H, WY-ANG), land Colorado Springs.
372.20:  JOSA-181, (C-21A), takeoff Colorado Springs.
239.025: THUNDER-11, (Unk), calling Colorado Springs Approach. (Very weak).
291.675: TOPGUN-31, (F/A-18B, NSAWC, Fallon), land.
121.00:  REACH 5895, (C-130, Little Rock), land; then on to Little Rock.
291.675: TOPGUN-1, (F/A-18A, NSAWC, Fallon), land; then on to Terre Haute as 
a flight of 2 with TOPGUN-31.
291.675: KNIGHT-11, (F/A-18F, VFA-154, Lemoore), land; then on to Scott.
275.80:  REDEYE-21, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared to Airburst Range.
319.00:  OUTLAW-1, (Possible EA-6B, VAQ-141, Whidbey), with Denver Center, FL 
260. Climbing to FL 290 and requesting direct Tinker. Switch 354.15.
372.20:  JOSA-483, (C-21A), takeoff Colorado Springs.
121.00:  ROLLER-76, (C-130H, NV-ANG), land; then on to Salt Lake City.
291.675: CROW-11, flight of 4, (F-15C, Eglin), land.
118.50:  EVAC 40619, (C-141, McGuire), trying to land Colorado Springs, but 
field is on hold for lightning and severe t-storms. Didn't hear whether or not 
he finally made it in.
372.20:  NAVY JR-721, (C-20G, VR-48, NAF Andrews), also trying to pick way 
through storms into Colorado Springs.
372.20:  JOSA-005, (C-21A, Peterson), land Colorado Springs. ((Probably 
needed pontoons, as they got about 4 inches of rain out of that storm))
349.20:  SENTRY-42, (AWAC, Tinker), request WX Tinker 0200-0300Z.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Fri Jul 16 23:48:44 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul 16 23:50:41 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/16/04
Message-ID: <145.2e6c843c.2e29fb9c@aol.com>

Inactive for a Friday, But still decent with transients.

PAT-231 (C-12?) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins.

COBB-30 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75>134.125, (Working Pattern throughout the 
afternoon.)

NAVY 7B-021 (UC-12, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Hurlburt Field (KHRT). (Return around 0215z)

RAPTOR-10 (F/A-22, w/ F-16 Chase) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

GREYHAWK-02 (E-2, NAS Norfolk) 370.875, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart 
around 1800z, Cleared to Knoxville (KTYS))

GUARD-21445 flight of 2 (OH-58, Dobbins) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

GATOR-22 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875, lands Dobbins. (Delcared IFE due to 
hydraulic probs.)

RED DOG-51 (AH-1?, NAS Atlanta) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

MARS-31 (AV-8, MCAS Cherry Point) 370.875, lands Dobbins. (Took him a good 
while to get in due to Navy tug not showing up for GATOR IFE.)

SLUG-02 (E-2, NAS Norfolk) 370.875, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart around 
2130z, Cleared to Navy Norfolk (KNGU))

GREYHAWK-07 (C-2, NAS Norfolk) 134.125, lands Dobbins.

RED DOG-32 (AH-1, NAS Atlanta) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

GUARD-22416 (UH-1?, Dobbins) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins. (Would return around 
0250z)

FOXY-11 (T-38, Sheppard) 346.8, lands Dobbind.

FOXY-61 (T-38, Sheppard) 317.575, lands Dobbins.

GUARD-21735 (UH-1, Dobbins) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins. (Would return around 
0230z)

ALLY-56 (T-38, Sheppard) 346.8, lands Dobbins.
----------------------------------------------------------
                  MISC
CUTLASS-21 flight of 2 (T-37, Vance) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 377.05>290.8>353.8, FL 
200
?RATTER?-22 (??) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 371.95>360.75, FL 240
ROCKET-515 (T-39, NAS Pensacola) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 353.8>350.325, FL 280
AUTO-74 (KC-135, Selfridge) w/ ??-59 on AR-216 (276.5)  Atlanta Cntr; 133.175>
126.67 direct CY
PAT-224 (??) w/ FSS (255.4) activating flightplan from KATL to KFTK.
NAVY 6E-292 (T-34, NAS Whiting Field) lands KPDK (120.9)
SENTRY-60 (E-3, Tinker) calling RAYMOND-19 (311.0) rqst phone patch to 
Tinker, Trying to get in touch with EAGLE-03 (??) reporting write-ups and ETA @ 
Tinker is 1945z
SENTRY-60 (E-3, Tinker) w/ Robins Metro (344.6) rqst wx @ Tinker for 2000z
CUTLASS-21 flight (T-37, Vance) w/ Dobbins Metro (274.75) rqst wx for ?? (Too 
weak to copy.)
ROCKET-515 (T-39, NAS Pensacola) w/ Maxwell Metro (342.3) rqst wx for Navy 
Pensacola (KNPA).
JOSA-966 (C-21, Scott, # 84-0127) calling Maxwell Dispatch (372.2) offload 8 
pax. rqst 3k lbs of fuel,A1.
------------------------------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga
From Sabre59 at aol.com  Fri Jul 16 23:53:45 2004
From: Sabre59 at aol.com (Sabre59@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul 16 23:55:46 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dayton arrival day callsigns
Message-ID: <1d2.261311a6.2e29fcc9@aol.com>

Cody 56   (C-141,Wright Patterson)
Guard 101 (UH-1)
Indy 81 (KC-135,Grissom)
Pacer 44 (C-21,WPAFB)
Anvil 04 (C-130,WV)
Reach 159 (C-17,Charleston)
Nightmare 81 flight (2 AV-8s,Yuma)
Bocca 54 (T-6,XL)
Kong 01 flight (4 F-15s,EG)
LG406 (C-12,Navy)
SR430 (SH-60,Navy)
Freebie 21 (A-10,BC)
Navy 630 (C-12, G)
First 71 flight (2 F-15s,FF)
Stud 11 flight ( 2 F-16s,Buckley)
Greyhawk 99 flight ( E-2 and C-2)
Roman 11 (F-18)
Moon 62 (T-1,CB)
Cool 82 (T-38,XL)
Viper 51 flight (2 F-16s,?)
Lion 31 (F-14)
TB 01 (MH-53)

I missed one or two before I got there,but still not a great military static 
for this show.

Brian,at "The Spot"

From CParris2 at compuserve.com  Sat Jul 17 00:16:52 2004
From: CParris2 at compuserve.com (Chris Parris)
Date: Sat Jul 17 00:18:56 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KPDX 07/15/04
Message-ID: <200407170017_MC3-1-86C7-535@compuserve.com>

We've had some visitors operating with the Oregon ANG F-15's this week;

SMOKE 11, 12, 13, 14 (F-18's)

TULSA 1, 2, 3 (F-16's) 149.35 air-to-air

DEVIL 11 Flight (2 F-18's)

SMOKE 31 departed for Miramar NAS

- Chris
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 www.live365.com/stations/cparris2





From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Sat Jul 17 00:42:10 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul 17 00:44:16 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dayton arrival day callsigns
Message-ID: <1db.26683884.2e2a0822@aol.com>

Posted by Sabre59@aol.com wrote:

Greyhawk 99 flight ( E-2 and C-2)
----------------------------------------------------------------

Forgot to mention in the logs GREYHAWK-02 that came into Dobbins departed as 
GREYHAWK-99 for Knoxville.  But was a single E-2.  Maybe caught up with the 
C-2 at Knoxville??

Adam
Marietta,Ga


From jehaverlah at pdq.net  Sat Jul 17 00:42:13 2004
From: jehaverlah at pdq.net (Jeff Haverlah)
Date: Sat Jul 17 00:45:25 2004
Subject: [MilCom] MIL: 11244.0 - FAST BOAT
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20040716233947.00a2e690@mail.pdq.net>

0440z  17 Jul 04

      11244.0 was active at 0340z, 0407z and 0437z with FAST BOAT 
(weak/readable levels here) bcsting a 28-character EAM (7DUSKU) and 
simulcasting same on at least 6697.0 (weak/readable) and 8992.0 (weak) with 
nothing heard on 13155.0.  H+07/h+37 activity.

Jeff Haverlah

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jeff Haverlah               Coastal Texas           jehaverlah@pdq.net
      Drake R7 (Gilfer Mod)  Drake R8B               Ten-Tec RX320/GNRX320
      Panasonic RFB-65       JPS NIR-12/ANC-4        "wires" and loops
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Sat Jul 17 01:35:07 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Sat Jul 17 01:37:02 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Seattle Milcom JULY 16
Message-ID: <40F8BA8B.2050107@verizon.net>

McChord AFB arrivals 124.8 Tower, 349.4 CP

COHO 95
COHO 87
HUSKY 01

Misc

120.2 Paine Field Tower. DEEPSEA 50 several approaches
256.7 Paine Field Tower. OUTLAW 3 low approach
350.1 Whidbey Base Ops. TORII 131 166500 Miramar Flight Division inbound
360.8 Portland App. SMOKE 21 inbound PDX
270.8 NAS Whidbey App. TULSA 01 three inbound for the tower pattern, 
then IFR to Portland. A/A 149.35
270.8 BULLET 11, 12 inbound Whidbey
270.3 Seattle Center. BULLET 11, 12 off Whidbey, cleared to Calgary
119.325 Gray AAF Tower. PAT 072 inbound
271.0 WADS. HARRY 21 CAP with TANKER 20

Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA
Northwest Aircraft Communications
http://microvoltradio.com/
   

From mystic at ikansas.com  Sat Jul 17 01:55:29 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Sat Jul 17 01:58:23 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	16 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <000c01c46bc2$cb1699e0$7fcb2740@u5a3b0>

316.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE PRIMARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
1510Z - CYCLONE-01 & CYCLONE-02 30 minutes playtime abort code XRAY_YANKEE;
15??Z - DITTO-01 w/ SMOKY
1615Z - ARBY-01 FLIGHT w/ SMOKY
1653Z - SMOKY de SCALP-93 descending to 6000 to see if we can play on the
playground
2001Z - ANTIDOTE de LOBO-11 FLIGHT
2011Z - WIZARD de DRAGNET, checking in for our scheduled range time

304.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE SECONDARY: WIZARD)
2024Z - DRAGNET has you loud & clear.  DRAGNET BRA 150/80/280

363.200 (KZKC SALINA)
1528Z - STUD-11 FLIGHT
1544Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT rqst RTB DES MOINES
1619Z - ARBY-01, flight of 2 A-10s rqst RTB WHITEMAN
1647Z - SCALP-93
1718Z - SCALP-93 coming off SMOKY HILL RANGE @ 2500 w/ weather about 1000 ft
above us; rqst RTB BARKSDALE
1804Z - DUKE-25
2035Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT rqst direct SOUIX FALLS FL 330

296.600 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
1548Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT
2037Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT checking in & Push 12

337.400 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
1641Z - SCALP-93

307.200 (KZMP HASTINGS)
2037Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT checking & passing 240 for 290

379.150 (KZDV HILL CITY)
1527Z - STUD-11 FLIGHT

120.200 (KZKC EMPORIA)
1732Z - REACH-216

132.250 (KZKC EMPORIA)
1816Z - TURBO-75 checks in finally on right freq :-)

133.925 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
0007Z - EDAN-30

134.300 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
0117Z - CODER-74

134.900 (KZKC SALINA)
1929Z - DARTER-42
1939Z - DARTER-41

126.400 (KZMP MARYSVILLE)
1553Z - TOPCAT-38

343.500 (AR-016)
01457Z - HUSKER-26 co-ordinating w/ BORG-51 to conduct AR OPNS & intentions
if weather gets worse in vicinity of LINCOLN

297.300 (PAWNEE-LAMONI AR TRACK PRIMARY)
1501Z - BAT-51 conduct AR OPNS w/ TOPCAT-38

228.250 (AR-400)
1735Z - TURBO-02 conduct AR OPNS on AR-330 EAST w/ TURBO-75

324.400 (AR-653)
1927Z - DARTER-41 conduct SIMULATED AR OPNS w/ DARTER-42

138.125 (442nd FW; WHITEMAN AFB: VICTOR-01)
1611Z - DITTO-01 w/ ARBY-01 FLIGHT in discussion about cloud layers burning
off (not any time soon)

138.400
1528Z - STUD-11 FLIGHT

149.525 (442nd FW; WHITEMAN AFB: VICTOR-17)
1550Z - DITTO-01 w/ ______-??

225.500 (931st ARG; McCONNELL AFB: A-2-A)
1815Z - KC CENTRE de TURBO-75 (TURBO-02 gave him the wrong freq :-)

326.200 (KEND APP)
2044Z - DARTER-42
2055Z - CODER-62
2126Z - HYDRA-55
2141Z - BISON-55

375.200 (KIAB METRO)
1610Z - TURBO-02 checking weather vicinity of KIAB

233.700 (TACAMO KOFF)
0020Z - ICEHOUSE de (sounded like) 404;  need a turn screen & either a B-1
or B-2 stand so I can do an inspection of the inflight refueling receptale.
Where are you going to park us?

311.000 (COMMAND POST)
1505Z - McCONNELL CMD POST de OPEC-80 (70123), rqst pp to LUKE CMD POST.
LUKE CMD POST de OPEC-80, inbound your station; ETA 1710Z: 0 cargo; 0 paxs;
ALPHA-1; RON & will be looking to OFFLOAD 200,000 lbs of fuel

321.000 (COMMAND POST)
0100Z - McCONNELL CMD POST de CODER-74, rqst pp to HAPPY CONTROL, DSN
760-4255

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From msaran at olympus.net  Sat Jul 17 03:41:48 2004
From: msaran at olympus.net (Mark Saran)
Date: Sat Jul 17 03:44:04 2004
Subject: [MilCom] More RIMPAC (Kauai Hawaii) Freq's
Message-ID: <p06020400bd1e87f24464@[192.168.1.100]>

255.9
269.4
239.6
349.4
322.0
306.1
255.0
270.3
263.5
262.4
286.1
363.5
327.4  Mai-Tai - flight of 4
267.0
339.7  Red crown

From domyers at voicenet.com  Sat Jul 17 08:24:31 2004
From: domyers at voicenet.com (Dan Myers)
Date: Sat Jul 17 08:26:42 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Recent SE PA Logs
In-Reply-To: <20040717021555.54407.qmail@web40406.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040717081845.02db2400@popmail.voicenet.com>

Bob-
Note- W/G has a new VHF ground freq. 118.45.  TOPGUN 01 did a carrier break 
landing over the house.  I was VERY SURPRISED they let him do this!!   They 
do not allow carrier break landings except during the air shows.  He then 
did a missed approach.  Both took him low level over the house.  It was 
VERY COOL and VERY LOUD!   There is a change of base command ceremony Saturday.
Dan
At the mid-field break
Horsham, Pa
From domyers at voicenet.com  Sat Jul 17 08:30:46 2004
From: domyers at voicenet.com (Dan Myers)
Date: Sat Jul 17 08:32:39 2004
Subject: [MilCom] CQ Rochester N.Y., re: Blue Angels
In-Reply-To: <20040716190742.25090.qmail@web51702.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040717082933.03275570@popmail.voicenet.com>

At 03:07 PM 7/16/2004, Tom M. wrote:
>Hey all in Rochester.  The Blues will be (are) in your town this weekend.
>Step up and find the 3rd new freq.
>The other two new ones are 265.0 and 284.25.
>73 Tom

Tom-
Try 305.50 for FAT ALBERT and 237.80 for the solos.
Dan
Horsham, Pa

From Rapbep at aol.com  Sat Jul 17 10:48:32 2004
From: Rapbep at aol.com (Rapbep@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul 17 10:50:33 2004
Subject: [MilCom] USAF ALE Logs, 16 Jul 04
Message-ID: <83.10c03ed1.2e2a9640@aol.com>

((ALL FREQS ARE KHZ & TIMES UTC))

18003.0 AF7 (C-20C #86-0403 99th AS Andrews AFB): 1137 USB/ALE sounding. 
Sounding throughout most of the day. Noted on 09025.0; 11226.0; 11250.0; 13215.0; 
and 20631.0. 16/07 RP3

20631.0 430081 (KC-10 # 83-0081): 1226 USB/ALE sounding. Also sounding on 
07632.0 & 23337.0. 16/07 RP3

13215.0 591501 (KC-135 # 59-1501): 2040 USB/ALE TO ADW (Andrews AFB). Also 
noted on 11226.0. 16/07 RP3

09025.0 290058 (C-17 # 99-0058): 2005 USB/ALE sounding. Also noted on 
18003.0.  16/07 RP3

11226.0 050040 (unidentified): 1932 USB/ALE TO ADW (Andrews AFB). Also noted 
on 13215.0. 16/07 RP3 

11226.0 571428 (KC-135 # 57-1248): 1914 USB/ALE sounding. 16/07 RP3

04721.0 ADW (Andrews AFB): 1911 USB/ALE TO 440192 (KC-10 # 84-0192). Also 
noted on 18003.0. 16/07 RP3

09025.0 F41 (HU-25 # 2141 CGAS Cape Cod): 1740 USB/ALE JNR (Roosevelt Roads 
PR). 16/07 RP3

13215.0  470123 (KC-10 # 87-0123): 1504 USB/ALE TO AED (Elmendorf AFB). 16/07 
RP3

06721.0 E30352IGM (E-3B AWACS # 77-0352): 1502 USB/ALE TO ADW 
(Andrews)--[AMD]CCCCD8,5745907NNNN (Langley AFB VA). 16/07 RP3

09025.0 ADW (Andrews AFB): 1432 USB/ALE TO 571499 (KC-135 # 57-1449). Also 
noted on 11226.0; 13215.0; and 180003.0. 16/07 RP3

13215.0 233123 (Test/training): 1349 USB/ALE TO ABC (Test/training). 16/07 
RP3

09025.0 210189 (C-17 # 01-0189): 2308 USB/ALE TO JDG (Diego Garcia). 16/07 
RP3

RON (RAPBEP@AOL.COM)
MARYLAND, USA
UTILITY STATION MONITORING
Icom R-75 w/45-ft PAR EF-SWL 
From Wa1lad at cox.net  Sat Jul 17 13:09:01 2004
From: Wa1lad at cox.net (Gil woodside)
Date: Sat Jul 17 13:10:56 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Fw: 149.540 fm in Newport, RI area
Message-ID: <003301c46c20$c1c9fd10$bb1cfa18@S0031716010>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Gil woodside 
To: Milcom list 
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 1:07 PM
Subject: 149.540 fm in Newport, RI area


For the second day in a row 149.540 is active with slow-scan TV. Most likely coming from Newport, RI area due to the Tall Ships being here for the weekend. Seems to be the same sked as yesterday, on freq until mid evening.

Gil
From GHS521 at aol.com  Sat Jul 17 14:00:50 2004
From: GHS521 at aol.com (GHS521@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul 17 14:02:58 2004
Subject: [MilCom] DARKSTAR
Message-ID: <1dd.2680fa76.2e2ac352@aol.com>

Hearing faint comms on 251.1 and 257.95.
Sounds like MOA and ACM traffic. One c/s
heard, DARKSTAR.

Greg
Cen IL
From GHS521 at aol.com  Sat Jul 17 14:12:39 2004
From: GHS521 at aol.com (GHS521@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul 17 14:14:37 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Re: (CARMA) DARKSTAR
Message-ID: <c.2e1b4be7.2e2ac617@aol.com>

HONDA11 flight on 251.1, a/a 138.35 & 142.125

Greg
Cen IL

In a message dated 7/17/04 1:03:55 PM Central Daylight Time, ghs521@aol.com 
writes:

> Hearing faint comms on 251.1 and 257.95.
> Sounds like MOA and ACM traffic. One c/s
> heard, DARKSTAR.

From mystic at ikansas.com  Sat Jul 17 13:12:34 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Sat Jul 17 14:19:14 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 311.000
Message-ID: <000601c46c2a$43a79960$1dcb2740@u5a3b0>

1640Z - ___ passes EAM NCGPIJ & simulcasted on 323.8 (signal strength 1)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W
From mystic at ikansas.com  Sat Jul 17 19:22:01 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Sat Jul 17 19:24:56 2004
Subject: [MilCom] GRIZZLY-53
Message-ID: <000201c46c54$f93e9f60$29cb2740@u5a3b0>

311.000
2310Z - OFFUTT CMD POST de GRIZZLY-53, rqst pp.  Rg, 321

321.000
2310Z - RAYMOND-21 de GRIZZLY-53, rqst pp to DSN 447-3737, 163rd ARW CMD
POST.  Rg.
EAGLE CONTROL de GRIZZLY-53, rqst HF check plse.  On the ALE freqs.
Thanks RAYMOND-21

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From mystic at ikansas.com  Sat Jul 17 19:58:19 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Sat Jul 17 21:31:55 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	17 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <000201c46c66$ac3c1820$29cb2740@u5a3b0>

316.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE PRIMARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
1657Z - SCALP-93 & SCALP-94 rqsting MIKE-06

337.400 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
1708Z - SCALP-93 will be departing the range in about 20 minutes & rqst
direct TULSA, BELCHER, & BARKSDALE
1750Z - SCALP-94 FLIGHT BLOCK 220 - 230

285.400 (KZKC EMPORIA)
1753Z - SCALP-94 FLIGHT, climbing to BLOCK 240 - 250

281.450 (KZKC TULSA)
1755Z - SCALP-94 FLIGHT

133.925 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
0414Z - CENTRE de DEXTER-52, back w/ you

134.900 (KZKC SALINA)
2042Z - DEXTER-51 & DEXTER-52 are cleared to conduct AR OPNS within the
confines of ADOBE AR on the HIGH TRACK in the BLOCK 15000 - 17000
2202Z - DEXTER-51 & DEXTER-52 join to form DEXTER-51 FLIGHT for the RTB to
VANCE

128.750 (KZMP LINCOLN)
0415Z - DEXTER-52 FL 250
0429Z - DEXTER-51 FL 240

303.000 (USAF COMMON)
0407Z - DEXTER-51 w/ DEXTER-52

392.200 (93rd BOMB SQDN, 917th WING; BARKSDALE AFB; A-2-A)
1753Z - SCALP-93 w/ SCALP-94

235.870 ( VANCE AFB T-1A A-2-A)
2112Z - DEXTER-51 w/ DEXTER-52 conduct SIMULATED AR OPNS

370.100 (TACAMO)
1608Z  (WFM) modem
1710Z  (WFM) modem

233.700 (TACAMO KOFF)
2210Z - ICEHOUSE de 88, we are about 25 minutes out.  Need B-5 stand & ?

311.000 (COMMAND POST)
1640Z - ___ passes EAM NCGPIJ & simulcasted on 323.8 (signal strength 1)
2310Z - OFFUTT CMD POST de GRIZZLY-53, rqst pp.  Rg, 321

321.000 (COMMAND POST)
2310Z - RAYMOND-21 de GRIZZLY-53, rqst pp to DSN 447-3737, 163rd ARW CMD
POST.  Rg.
EAGLE CONTROL de GRIZZLY-53, rqst HF check plse.  On the ALE freqs.
Thanks RAYMOND-21

323.800 (ABN CMD POST)
1640Z - ___ passes EAM NCGPIJ & simulcasted on 311.0 (signal strength 1)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Sat Jul 17 21:55:15 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul 17 21:57:26 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 17 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <1d3.262de32f.2e2b3283@aol.com>

Not a whole lot happening today.

275.80:  REDEYE-01, (F-16, Buckley), cleared to Alamosa, CO. Return later.
298.40:  SCOUT-16, (E-3, AFRC, Tinker), request pp to Sooner Control at 
Tinker. Pass mission status and ETA Buckley. ((970th AACS must use 507th ARW CP for 
their mission control))
121.00:  BASCO-41, (C-17A, Charleston), land; then cleared out Round-Robin 
for paradrop mission somewhere east of Buckley. ((Never could find frop freq.))
121.00:  SCOUT-16, (E-3, AFRC, Tinker), land.
319.00:  ROMAN-1,(F/A-18, VFA-106, Oceana), with Denver Center, FL 330, 
Descending to 270 and switching 379.95. Then switch Springs Approach, 239.025, and 
land Colorado Springs.
372.20:  ?SLUG-69?, (Unk), calling Peterson PTD. Very weak and broken. 
Callsign could also have been PLUG-69.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From Rapbep at aol.com  Sat Jul 17 22:22:57 2004
From: Rapbep at aol.com (Rapbep@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul 17 22:25:06 2004
Subject: [MilCom] USAF Logs, 17 Jul 04
Message-ID: <c.2e2329f1.2e2b3901@aol.com>

((ALL FREQS ARE KHZ & TIMES UTC))   

18003.0 571482 (KC-135 # 57-1482): 1459 USB/ALE sounding. 17/07 RP3

09025.0 KLPS (unidentified): 1618 USB/ALE sounding. Also sounding on 18003.0. 
17/07 RP3

18003.0 ADW (Andrews AFB): 1707 USB/ALE TO 290064 (C-17 # 99-0064). 17/07 RP3 


11226.0 170042 (C-5 # 87-0042): 2018 USB/ALE sounding. 17/07 RP3

RON (RAPBEP@AOL.COM)
MARYLAND, USA
UTILITY STATION MONITORING
Icom R-75 w/45-ft PAR EF-SWL 
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Sat Jul 17 23:22:42 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul 17 23:24:54 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/17/04
Message-ID: <144.2e6e9ee2.2e2b4702@aol.com>

A real quiet one here.

MARS-31 (AV-8, MCAS Cherry Point) 370.875>268.7>254.35, takeoff Dobbins.

JOLLY-51 (HH-60, Moody) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart around 
2200z, Return later.)

NAVY JU-118 (C-9, NAS Norfolk) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart, 
Cleared to Navy Norfolk (KNGU))

GUARD-22416 (UH-1, Dobbins) 120.75, lands Dobbins.
--------------------------------------
DANDA-32 (C-17, McChord) calling Maxwell Dispatch (372.2), no reply.
--------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga

BTW,  ID'd the CUTLASS-21 flight yesterday as T-37 x2 from Vance AFB, 
Should've been Columbus AFB.
From Amtrak35 at aol.com  Sun Jul 18 00:07:05 2004
From: Amtrak35 at aol.com (Amtrak35@aol.com)
Date: Sun Jul 18 00:09:18 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KDOV log
Message-ID: <e4.531d2f43.2e2b5169@aol.com>

I still haven't set up outdoor antenna due to recent move but managed to get 
a few logs on the old indoor aerial.

 ARMY 70049 C-37 arrive Andrews 1330z (378.100)
 REACH 5001 C-5 arrive Dover (349.400)
 SPORT 21 single A-10 MD ANG with Dover apch 339.100 then switch to 
254.350,Potomac appch?
 COLT 1 single A-10 MD ANG also with Dover appch returning from
Warren Grove range.
 OTIS 81 calling Andrews.. nothing else heard.
 WARDOG 1 single A-10 with Dover appch enroute restricted area 5002,VFR
 BOLAR 70 C-5 arrive Dover after AR refueling,req a couple touch and go's 
before landing.
 CACTI 72  arrive McGuire.3 pax,zero cargo.req parking,alpha 1.
 REACH 6015 C-5 arrive Dover.
 EVAC 67950 C-141 arrive Andrews 2135z,offloads.
 ASCOT 4705 arrive Dover 0020z,9 pob all crew req 3000 US Gallons fuel.
 REACH 7041 C-5 arrive Dover
 DUECE 81 KC-10 arrive McGuire 319.400
 REACH 6021 C-5 arrive Dover,thruloads.

Mark
Now in Northeast Maryland but still employed in crowded Delaware.
 
From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Sun Jul 18 02:47:26 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Sun Jul 18 02:49:38 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Seattle Milcom JULY 17
Message-ID: <40FA1CFE.40507@verizon.net>

319.2 Seattle Center. FURY 61 flight headed west
257.8 Boeing Field Tower. DEVIL 71 landed
279.6 Seattle Center. TULSA 1 flight of four cleared direct Mustang
271.0 WADS. HARRY 21 and TANKER 18 on the Seattle CAP
270.8 NAS Whidbey App. SONIC 74 PAR then back to McChord

Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA
Northwest Aircraft Communications
http://microvoltradio.com/

From rfinder1 at verizon.net  Sun Jul 18 09:31:09 2004
From: rfinder1 at verizon.net (Ken)
Date: Sun Jul 18 09:33:16 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Nantucket Island Show Now On The Radar Screen
Message-ID: <000501c46ccb$7cc458e0$6401a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>

See http://www.blueangelsnantucket.com/
Show Dates:  9/18 & 9/19/04

So far no other performers listed other than Blue Angels.
Also No sponsors listed.

$5.00 for parking (surely we will all be just taking our cars over to the
island via the ferry system that easily should be able to hand 8 to 10K of
cars that day :) ;)  !!!)

Apparently it will  be a 3 hr show/exhibit window (1300 to 1600 hrs) with
gates opening at 1100 hrs.

Admission to the show is free.  However, Schutlz Airshows is offering some
premium seating so you can totally enjoy yourself at this event!!
See:  http://www.blueangelsnantucket.com/events/index.html

I'm thinking about selling some of my radio equipment shortly to see if I
can raise the $1,000 (each person) for the two day Luxury box seating.  If I
can raise $1,500 I will also be able to attend the Friday night BBQ as well
as the Saturday night "Gala"  :) ;)

(I imagine the special VIP restroom facilities will have self cleaning porta
poties!!! :) ;)  )

Seriously though we are considering flying in for the show, that actually is
the easiest, quickest way.  It's a 20 minute flight from Hyannis airport
(ferry is 2.15 hrs)
see http://www.nantucketchamber.org/visitor/gethere.html#sea
for specifics.

Ken



From rfinder1 at verizon.net  Sun Jul 18 09:53:52 2004
From: rfinder1 at verizon.net (Ken)
Date: Sun Jul 18 09:55:59 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Interesting website
Message-ID: <007701c46cce$a9242e80$6401a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>

Check out the Schultz airshows site:
http://www.schultzairshows.com/

Nice photos, great links, past show photos/reports..

BTW Schultz does a very good job at these shows, I've noted that in the
shows I've attend their hasn't been much success with the premium seating..
What I couldn't figure out is why Schultz doesn't pipe in or rent scanners
programmed to listen to the various airshow frequencies..

Ken


From rfinder1 at verizon.net  Sun Jul 18 13:24:26 2004
From: rfinder1 at verizon.net (Ken)
Date: Sun Jul 18 13:26:41 2004
Subject: [MilCom] CRAF Helo Replacement? 
Message-ID: <011f01c46cec$13bb4c20$6501a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>

Does anyone know if the CH-149 cormorant has replaced most of the CH-113
Labrador for search & rescue?  The website seems to indicate that this was
suppose to be complete by Spring 2004.

http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/equip1_e.asp

Ken


From mystic at ikansas.com  Sun Jul 18 14:09:34 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Sun Jul 18 14:12:34 2004
Subject: [MilCom] AIR_EVAC-7012 (70012) 
Message-ID: <002201c46cf2$72048200$e1cb2740@u5a3b0>

311.0
1807Z - C-141 (70012) ETA TRAVIS AFB 2120Z passes off-load
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Sun Jul 18 14:17:40 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Sun Jul 18 14:20:05 2004
Subject: [MilCom] CRAF Helo Replacement? 
Message-ID: <1eb.2561098d.2e2c18c4@aol.com>

Ken,

I heard the CH-113s had their retirement ceremony sometime in late June (26th 
I think)

So I would assume the transition from CH-113s to CH-149s is close, if not 
already, completed.

Adam
Marietta,Ga
From davebate at rogers.com  Sun Jul 18 14:54:42 2004
From: davebate at rogers.com (David Bate)
Date: Sun Jul 18 14:57:03 2004
Subject: [MilCom] CRAF Helo Replacement? 
In-Reply-To: <011f01c46cec$13bb4c20$6501a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>
Message-ID: <20040718185442.96757.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

The CAF has not replaced ALL the CH-113.  Almost. 
There were some electronic problems that the slowed
down the deployment.  It should be completed by end of
summer.  The high priority replacements are done.

Dave..

--- Ken <rfinder1@verizon.net> wrote: > Does anyone
know if the CH-149 cormorant has
> replaced most of the CH-113
> Labrador for search & rescue?  The website seems to
> indicate that this was
> suppose to be complete by Spring 2004.
> 
> http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/equip1_e.asp

=====
David Bate - ScannerDesk & FlightDesk

- http://www.scannerdesk.com/
- Registered VHF/UHF Monitor VEM3ONT-19
- Worldwide Military HF Communications
- NASA KSC's The Ol'Pad Rat Award

'I have never been lost - I was merely unsure of my position for three days once.'
From kc8mzm at bellsouth.net  Sun Jul 18 20:58:02 2004
From: kc8mzm at bellsouth.net (Mike Riffle)
Date: Sun Jul 18 21:00:14 2004
Subject: [MilCom] West Georgia logs 17-18 Jul 04
Message-ID: <40FB1C9A.50405@bellsouth.net>

recorded logs...

17 JULY
-------

[119.05 LAWSON AAF TOWER]
  ARMY 820 (?) ID'd as heavy

[122.85 DISPATCH]
  1845z DANDA 32 (C-17) inbound Maxwell

[135.475 ATLANTA FSS]
  1704z FAME 45 (C-21) getting wx enroute to Keesler

[251.25 HURLBURT CP]
  2128z REACH 6006 (?) inbound

[293.525 PEACHTREE]
  1649z RAZOR 22 (E-8C) inbound Robins
  1650z RAZOR 26 (E-8C) inbound Robins

[396.9 TOIL OPS]
  2225z REACH 312Y (C-130) inbound Maxwell (also coordinating a flyby
        on 314.2)

[ARTCC]
  EAGLE 11  (?)       291.65
  FAST 52   (T-38)    307.2 319.1>350.325>299.2>327.8
  POISON 65 (T-38)    261.5>291.65
  RAZOR 22  (E-8C)    360.75 307.15>285.4
  SNAKE 11  (trainer) 261.5>291.65
  SNAKE 91  (trainer) 291.65

18 JULY
-------

[119.05/269.525 LAWSON AAF TOWER]
  ARMY 26543    (UH-60)
  ARMY 361      (UH-1)
  N9731F        (C172)  aerial photo work
  RAVEN 900/901 (C-130)

[245.7 LAWSON AAF OPS]
  2315z RAVEN 901 (C-130) inbound, also a/a with RAVEN 900

[263.45 MOODY METRO]
  1912z NIGHTCAR ## (?) getting wx for Moody

[342.3 MAXWELL METRO]
   2056z KATT 150 (T-1) getting wx for NAS Pensacola

[ARTCC]
  ALLY 61  (T-38?) 268.7>306.2>350.325>354.05
  FOXY 11  (T-38?) 306.2>350.325>354.05>298.95
  KATT 150 (T-1)   297.4
  KATT 608 (T-6)   270.25>346.4
  RATTR 02 (T-37)  297.4>270.25
  ROKT 201 (T-2)   350.325 297.4>380.225>297.6
  ROKT 204 (T-2)   270.25

-- 
Mike Riffle
Cataula, GA
milcom - http://www.qsl.net/kc8mzm/
photos - http://www.pbase.com/mriffle/aviation/

From kc8mzm at bellsouth.net  Sun Jul 18 21:33:07 2004
From: kc8mzm at bellsouth.net (Mike Riffle)
Date: Sun Jul 18 21:35:20 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Blues air-air
Message-ID: <40FB24D3.7000104@bellsouth.net>

Heard the Blue Angels on their rtb to Pensacola tonight from the Rochester
airshow. During their transit I (along with fellow Georgia monitor Barry W)
heard a very informal chat by some of them on on 237.8. Also caught the
tailend of a comm on 270.8 indicating they would be arriving shortly.

Mike Riffle
Cataula, GA

From Rapbep at aol.com  Sun Jul 18 22:00:44 2004
From: Rapbep at aol.com (Rapbep@aol.com)
Date: Sun Jul 18 22:03:03 2004
Subject: [MilCom] USAF ALE Logs, 18 Jul 04
Message-ID: <147.2ea65880.2e2c854c@aol.com>

((ALL FREQS ARE KHZ & TIMES UTC))   

11226.0 470123 (KC-10 # 87-9123): 0418 USB/ALE Sounding. 18/07 RP3 

13215.0 MCC (McClellan): 1439 USB/ALE TO 491710 (KC-10 # 79-1710). 18/07 RP3  
       
    
RON (RAPBEP@AOL.COM)
MARYLAND, USA
UTILITY STATION MONITORING
Icom R-75 w/45-ft PAR EF-SWL 
From AllanStern at aol.com  Sun Jul 18 22:14:49 2004
From: AllanStern at aol.com (AllanStern@aol.com)
Date: Sun Jul 18 22:17:03 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Recent SE PA Logs
Message-ID: <7a.5c49d870.2e2c8899@aol.com>

domyers@voicenet.com writes:
>
> TOPGUN 01 did a carrier break 
>  landing over the house.  I was VERY SURPRISED they let him do this!!   
They 
>  do not allow carrier break landings except during the air shows.  He then 
>  did a missed approach.  Both took him low level over the house.  It was 
>  VERY COOL and VERY LOUD!   

I'm jealous !!

AL STERN  Satellite Beach FL
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Sun Jul 18 23:23:07 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Sun Jul 18 23:25:27 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/18/04
Message-ID: <1ed.259e0b3a.2e2c989b@aol.com>

A real slow one here.

FOXY-11 (T-38, Sheppard) 370.875>268.7>306.2, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Lake Charles (LA) (KCWF).

ALLY-61 (T-38, Sheppard) 370.875>346.8>268.7>306.2, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared 
to Lake Charles (LA) (KCWF).

ALLY-56 (T-38, Sheppard) 370.875>268.7>306.2>354.05, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared 
to Lake Charles (LA) (KCWF). 

GUARD-22416 (UH-1, Dobbins) 120.75, (Working Pattern.)

PAT-157 (UC-35) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to MacDill (KMCF).

GATOR-22 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

COBB-30 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

GREYHAWK-06 (E-2, NAS Norfolk) 370.875>126.975, takeoff Dobbins. (Missed 
clearance, Probably headed back home to Norfolk.)
----------------------------------------------
               MISC
RATTER-04 (T-37, Vance) rqst Uniform freq (Didn't make it in time to see what 
freq he was on, I believe, switched to 306.2)
POISON-81 (T-38, Columbus) w/ ?Memphis? Cntr; 353.05
???-36 w/ Atlanta Cntr; 299.2>126.675 (Sounded like a T-37.)
GUARD-23470 (??) w/ Atlanta Deprt; 121.0>133.8
----------------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga
From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Sun Jul 18 23:33:51 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Sun Jul 18 23:36:05 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 18 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <158.3a0dcd20.2e2c9b1f@aol.com>

Not a good day for T-37's today.

275.80:  SHEP-16, (T-37B, Sheppard), cleared to Wichita. Tried to take off 
over a BAK-12 cable and snagged and bent his gear doors so they wouldn't close. 
Had to return to Buckley.
372.20:  JOSA-717, (C-21A), repeated calls to Peterson PTD.
275.80:  SHEP-16, (T-37B, Sheppard), got gear doors unbent and again cleared 
Wichita.
275.80:  SHEP-23, (T-37B, Sheppard), cleared to Wichita. He also had to 
return to Buckley as gear wouldn't retract properly. 
121.60:  BASCO-41, (C-17A, Charleston), cleared out Round-Robin for paradrop 
somewhere east of Buckley.
372.20:  REACH 406T, (Unk), calling Peterson PTD. Evidently nobody home at 
Peterson today.
275.80:  CROW-11, flight of 4, (F-15C, Eglin), cleared to Kelly. 367.60 A/A.
121.60:  BASCO-41, (C-17A, Charleston), cleared to Charleston.
372.20:  SMOKY-22, (C-21A, Peterson), calls to Peterson PTD.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Mon Jul 19 00:00:09 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Mon Jul 19 00:02:39 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Seattle Milcom JULY 18
Message-ID: <40FB4749.1070104@verizon.net>

McChord AFB arrivals 124.8 Tower, 349.4 CP

REACH 9064
DANDA 32
SONIC 11
SONIC 43
REACH 2110
REACH 949

Misc

135.525 Seattle Center. SPAR 30 cleared direct DPR
320.900 AR 355. COUNT 99 refueled FURY 71 and 73
270.300 Seattle Center. BULLET 11 and 12 off Whidbey, cleared to Lemoore
270.800 NAS Whidbey App. OUTLAW 1 inbound

Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA
Northwest Aircraft Communications
http://microvoltradio.com/

From mystic at ikansas.com  Mon Jul 19 00:51:12 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Mon Jul 19 00:55:09 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	18 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <001501c46d4c$3ef80440$c1cb2740@u5a3b0>

296.600 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
1557Z - DUKE-13
1858Z - DUKE-12

285.400 (KZKC EMPORIA)
1605Z - DUKE-21
1711Z - SCALP-93
1901Z - DUKE-13

281.450 (KZKC TULSA)
1714Z - SCALP-93

263.100 (KZKC ANTHONY)
2004Z - DUKE-15

346.300 (KZMP LINCOLN)
1601Z - DUKE-13
1619Z - DUKE-21
1645Z - DUKE-15

123.800 (KZKC TOPEKA)
2039Z - VANDY-54, direct BUTLER, PIONEER, McCONNELL

270.300 (KLNK APP - DEP)
1609Z - DUKE-13

326.200 (KEND APP)
1755Z - BISON-34
1839Z - HYDRA-11
2008Z - DUKE-41
2037Z - HYDRA-84
2121Z - BISON-11
2230Z - BISON-07

375.200 (KIAB METRO)
1820Z - AIR_EVAC-7012 rqst TRAVIS forecast to include temp & pressure for
2130Z

311.000 (COMMAND POST)
1807Z - AIR_EVAC-7012, I am C-141 70012 & ETA TRAVIS AFB 2120Z

368.250 (MID-CONUS TACAMO)
1846Z (NFM)  buzzing carrier/modem/phone ringing

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From Sabre59 at aol.com  Mon Jul 19 09:20:41 2004
From: Sabre59 at aol.com (Sabre59@aol.com)
Date: Mon Jul 19 09:23:05 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Viper 51
Message-ID: <b9.42fb9fcd.2e2d24a9@aol.com>

Flight of two Shaw F-16s just departed Dayton Airport. Currerntly on 317.525 
at 23,0.  I would assume they are headed home from the show.

Brian,at "The Spot"
From Sabre59 at aol.com  Mon Jul 19 09:27:04 2004
From: Sabre59 at aol.com (Sabre59@aol.com)
Date: Mon Jul 19 09:29:28 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Viper 51 switch
Message-ID: <77.2e8474fa.2e2d2628@aol.com>

to 263.050   req 35,0 for wx

Brian,at "The Spot"
From mystic at ikansas.com  Mon Jul 19 12:34:48 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Mon Jul 19 12:42:46 2004
Subject: [MilCom] TWO_TIMER 311.0/321.0
Message-ID: <002b01c46daf$077c2f60$c7cb2740@u5a3b0>

1454Z - EAM 64OGQ_
1455Z  -EAM 7DHPED - repeated @ 1525Z; 1554Z & 1625Z
1504Z - EAM 7DHNCC - repeated @ 1528Z; 1554Z & 1625Z

possible related acty:
233.700 was interrupted by the 1554Z broadcast; only thing heard was
"landing 12:30 local" before signal overridden again; 370.100 & 368.250 have
also been active
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From larry at grove-ent.com  Mon Jul 19 13:03:23 2004
From: larry at grove-ent.com (Larry Van Horn)
Date: Mon Jul 19 13:05:40 2004
Subject: [MilCom] RE: [FedCom] 139.9 MHz
In-Reply-To: <40EB183F.4080101@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000501c46db2$5518a020$8301a8c0@groveent.com>

Stand in line Greg. Had them in the ham bands the other day. Have had
them in the aero and fixed portions of the HF spectrum. Got hunters up
here in the ham/marine bands. It is up to responsible dealers to do the
right thing and they aren't. Enforcement starts at the sales counter.

73 all,

Larry Van Horn, N5FPW USN (Ret)
Monitoring Times Assistant Editor and Milcom Columnist
WUN Military/Government Newsletter Columnist
Grove Enterprises Technical Support Department
Telephone: V-828-837-9200/F-828-837-2216/800-438-8155


-----Original Message-----
From: fedcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:fedcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Greg Brazil
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 5:23 PM
To: mil; fedcom
Subject: [FedCom] 139.9 MHz


Just heard some local fishermen talking on 139.9 FM.  "I'm so fxxxxxx 
mad if I had a gun I could shoot him."
Greg (SF Bay Area)

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From mystic at ikansas.com  Mon Jul 19 15:09:44 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Mon Jul 19 15:40:24 2004
Subject: [MilCom] WIBW  Two World War II Air Shows in Kansas City this Week
Message-ID: <001b01c46dc7$db4d1d00$a2cb2740@u5a3b0>



 http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/885872.html
From rojoha at adelphia.net  Mon Jul 19 15:52:42 2004
From: rojoha at adelphia.net (Ron Johanson)
Date: Mon Jul 19 15:55:10 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Nantucket Island Show Now On The Radar Scree
Message-ID: <005101c46dc9$f5bfd360$0202a8c0@COMPAQLAPTOP>

But the ferry is $350 round trip for your car, so $5 shouldn't be the
problem. By the way, no coolers, so be ready to pay $5 a bottle for water
and at least $10 for a Watercress Sandwich. Nothing as plebian as a tube
steak for the great unwashed masses on this island....hopefully the ferry
fare will keep the riff raff at bay. Your tax dollars at work.....
    The Fleecing of America!!!
    Ron
    Southern NH

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken" <rfinder1@verizon.net>
To: "MILCOM" <milcom@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: 18 July, 2004 09:31
Subject: [MilCom] Nantucket Island Show Now On The Radar Screen


> See http://www.blueangelsnantucket.com/
> Show Dates:  9/18 & 9/19/04



From Rapbep at aol.com  Mon Jul 19 19:59:57 2004
From: Rapbep at aol.com (Rapbep@aol.com)
Date: Mon Jul 19 20:02:24 2004
Subject: [MilCom] South American Military ALE Logs, 19 Jul 04
Message-ID: <12a.46760ebf.2e2dba7d@aol.com>

((ALL FREQS ARE KHZ & TIMES UTC))

09190.0 BNA (Venezuelan Navy Base "Amario"): 0307 USB/ALE TO CGA (HQs, 
Venezuelan Navy). Also noted on 08500.0 & 13500.0. 19/07 RP3

09190.0 BNF (Venezuelan Navy Base "Falcon"): 0241 USB/ALE TO CGA (HQs, 
Venezuelan Navy). 19/07 RP3

09190.0  64B (LST " Los Llanos" T-64): 0231 USB/ALE TO BNA (Venezuelan Navy 
Base "Amario"). Also noted on 13500.0. 19/07 RP3

11010.0 NEBRSL (Brazilian Navy Training Frigate "Brasil" F-27): 0226 USB/ALE 
TO ERMRGD (Brazilian Navy Radio Station, Rio Grande). Also noted on 19709.0. 
19/07 RP3

08500.0 BNA (Venezuelan Navy Base "Amario"): 0214 USB/ALE TO BNF (Venezuelan 
Navy Base "Falcon"). 19/07 RP3

09052.0 CGGN (HQs, Venezuelan National Guard): 0512 USB/ALE TO MIRA1 
(probable Navy Special Operations Unit "Generalisimo Miranda"). 19/07 RP3

08060.0 CGGN (HQs, Venezuelan National Guard): 0507 USB/ALE TO CUFAN1 
(Unified Command of Armed Forces).  Also noted on 09052.0. 19/07 RP3        

19200.0 PR4 (River Patrol Craft "Lago 4" PBR-4, Venezuelan Navy): 1229 
USB/ALE TO BNF (Naval Base "Falcon) & BNA (Naval Base "Amario"). 19/07 RP3

17982.0 RDFEN (unidentified, probable Brazilian Air Force): 2136 USB/ALE 
sounding. 19/07 RP3

08060.0 CRC2M (Regional Command Post, Miltary Region 2, Venezuelan Army): 
2225 USB/ALE TO CLC23M (Communications Logistics Center, 23rd Inf Bn). Also noted 
on 09052.0 & 10272.0. 19/07 RP3

09052.0 CRC2M (Regional Command Post, Miltary Region 2, Venezuelan Army): 
2251 USB/ALE TO CLC24M (Communications Logistics Center, 24th Inf Bn). 19/07 RP3  


09052.0  DESTAFAC23 (Detachment 23, Combined Military Forces, Venezuelan 
National Guard): 2302 USB/ALE TO CUF (Unified Command of Armed Forces). 19/07 RP3  


09052.0 CORE7 (Commander, Military Region 7): 2306 USB/ALE TO CUFAN3 (Unified 
Command of Armed Forces).  Also noted on 08060.0. 19/07 RP3  

10600.0 DES (Detachment 23, Combined Military Forces, Venezuelan National 
Guard): 2331 TO CGGN (HQs, Venezuelan National Guard). 19/07 RP3

10600.0 CORE7 (Commander, Military Region 7, Venezuelan Army): 2340 USB/ALE 
TO MIRA3 (possibly Navy Special Operations Unit "Generalisimo Miranda"). Also 
on 08060.0 & 09052.0. 19/07 RP3  

12191.0 SCLC512 (Communications Logistics Center, 512th Jungle Inf Bn, 
Venezuelan Army): 2344 USB/ALE TO CLC51 (Communications Logistics Center, 51st 
Jungle Inf Bde). 19/07 RP3 


RON (RAPBEP@AOL.COM)
MARYLAND, USA
UTILITY STATION MONITORING
Icom R-75 w/45-ft PAR EF-SWL 
From Rapbep at aol.com  Mon Jul 19 20:00:01 2004
From: Rapbep at aol.com (Rapbep@aol.com)
Date: Mon Jul 19 20:02:35 2004
Subject: [MilCom] US Military ALE Logs, 19 Jul 04
Message-ID: <1de.25177daa.2e2dba81@aol.com>

((ALL FREQS ARE KHZ & TIMES UTC))   

13221.0 NOJ (CGAS Kodiak AK): 0326 USB/ALE sounding. 19/07 RP3

13215.0 571428 (KC-135 # 57-1248): 1347 USB/ALE sounding. 19/07 RP3

18003.0 591505 (KC-135 # 59-1505): 1609 USB/ALE sounding. 19/07 RP3

11226.0 491710 (KC-10 # 79-1710): 1554 USB/ALE sounding. Also noted sounding 
on 09025.0; 13215.0; and 18003.0. 19/07 RP3

18003.0  580065 (KC-135 # 58-0065): 1531 USB/ALE sounding. 19/07 RP3

13215.0  E31605 (E-3B AWACS # 76-1605): 1525 USB/ALE TO OFF (Offutt AFB). 
19/07 RP3

18003.0  420191(KC-10 # 82-0191): 1458 USB/ALE TO IKF (Keflavik). Also noted 
on 13215.0. 19/07 RP3            

09025.0 571428 (KC-135 # 57-1428): 1444 USB/ALE TO DEFAULT. Also noted on 
13215.0. 19/07 RP3  

15043.0 591466 (KC-135 # 59-1466): 1650 USB/ALE TO ICZ (Keflavik) & HIK 
(Hikam AFB). Also noted on 11226.0 & 18003.0. 19/07 RP3  

11226.0 591505 (KC-135 # 59-1505): 1815 USB/ALE TO MPA (Mount Pleasant, 
Falkland Islands). 19/07 RP3    

18003.0 290167 (C-17 # 99-0167): 1914 USB/ALE TO 200174 (C-17 # 00-0174). 
19/07 RP3                   
    
18003.0 140067 (C-5 #84-0067): 1944 USB/ALE LINKED. 19/07 RP3

09025.0 367953 (C-141 # 76-7953): 1941 USB/ALE sounding. Also noted on 
11226.0. 19/07 RP3

RON (RAPBEP@AOL.COM)
MARYLAND, USA
UTILITY STATION MONITORING
Icom R-75 w/45-ft PAR EF-SWL 
From Rapbep at aol.com  Mon Jul 19 20:30:47 2004
From: Rapbep at aol.com (Rapbep@aol.com)
Date: Mon Jul 19 20:33:19 2004
Subject: [MilCom] DC Area Logs, 19 Jul 04
Message-ID: <143.2e437540.2e2dc1b7@aol.com>

HIGHLIGHTS:

Usual Monday mixture of Reach, JOSAC & PAT aircraft punctuated by arrival of 
VPOTUS and Bahrain VIPs.

1. ANDREWS AFB (KADW): 
[Tower (118.4/349.0); CP (141.55;378.1); PTD (122.85; 372.2): Potomac 
TRACON/Reagan National APP/DEP(119.3;335.5;124.2;118.95;119.85;125.65)] 

HOME BASED:

Venus 42 (VC-37A # 99-0402, 99th AS)- approaches then depart for Atlantic 
City. Flew an early evening sortie as well.
Mussel 01, 03, 04, 05, 07, 08 (UH-1s, 1st Helo Sqdn)- local area operations.
Pacer 85 (C-21, 457th AS)- approaches.
DC 92 (KC-135R, 459th ARW)- depart.
Pacer 83 (C-21, 457th AS)- approaches
Track 32 (C-21 # 84-0132, AFFSA)- approaches
Cobra 11 (EA-6B, VAQ-209)- depart.
Cobra 50 (EA-6B, VAQ-209)- w/ZDC (281.4)
Army 70049 (VC-37 # 97-0049, OSACOM Det)- land
Navy JR 094 (C-20G # 165094, VR-48)- land. 
Army 10301 (UC-35, OSACOM Det)- depart.
Navy 7N937 (C-12, AOD)- land.
Air Force 2 (VC-32A, 1st AS)- land.
Pacer 02 (C-21, 457th AS)- land.

VISITORS :

Avalon 74 (C-9, Scott/Mid America IL)- depart.
PAT 809- depart
PAT 084- depart.
JOSA 091- depart.
Reach 421T- depart.
Reach 453T- land
Reach 641T-land
PAT 052- land
PAT 30- depart.
SPAR 30 (VC-37A #01-0030,310th AS/6th AMW, MacDill AFB FL)- depart. 
Army 21863 (sounded like a C-12)- land.
Reach 4633 (id as heavy)- land.
Epic 96 (C-130H,156th AS NC-ANG Charlotte )- land
Bahrain 1 (id as heavy B-747, probably A9C HHH of the Amiri Flight)- land. 
Departed about 2 hours later.
JOSA 035- land.
JOSA 002- land
JOSA 311- land. Departed about 1 hour later.
Reach 452T (id as C-17)- land
Bahrain 4 (probable Gulfstream IV of the Amiri Flight)- land
JOSA 791- land.
Evac 10250 (id as C-141)- land
Reach 406T (sounds like a C-17)- land
Reach 603 (id as heavy)- depart
Reach 711 (id as heavy)- depart.

2. PATUXENT RIVER NAS (KNHK):
[NTPS-Test Pilot School; NSATS (VX-23)-Strike Aircraft Test Squadron; NFATS 
(VX-20)-Force Aircraft Test Squadron-;NRWATS (HX-21)-Rotary Wing Aircraft Test 
Squadron- 119.275; 120.05; 123.7; 127.95; 256.5; 270.8; 281.8; 354.8]

Tester 21 (T-2C, NTPS)- w/Bay Watch (354.8).
Desk/Disk 43 (probable E-6B East Coast TACAMO)- w/approach (127.95)

3. Davison AAF, Ft Bevoir VA (KDAA):
Tower (126.3/229.4/241.0); Potomac approach/departure (118.85/118.95/119.85); 
Base Ops (139.4).

PAT 022 (probable helo)- land.
Navy 7C279 (C-12, AOD NAS Chambers)- land. Returned again in the early PM.

4. Martin State Airport (KMTN):
104th Fighter Sqdn MD ANG; 135th Airlift Sqdn MD ANG-Tower (121.3/297.2); 
Raven Ops (143.8/347.2); Crab Ops (385.9)

5. Marine Corps Air Facility (MCAF) Quantico (KNYG):
Tower (118.6/360.2); Approach/Departure (127.05/290.375); Base Ops (355.3). 

Reach 264T- w/approach (120.925 & 127.05) for landing.
Nighthawk 7 (VH-60N, HMX-1, MCAF Quantico)- land at Andrews South Pad for 
stop & go.

6. MISCELLANEOUS:

Guard Copter 15012 (probable UH-1)- w/Potomac approach (119.3) for clearance 
to Charlottesville VA.
Omaha 1 (Citation 550, BICE)- w/Potomac approach (119.85) then land at Reagan 
National.
Sentry 06 (E-3B AWACS, Tinker AFB)-w/Andrews Metro (344.6) for wx at Tinker.
November 3 (Ciation 550, FAA HQs)-land at Reagan National.
Eagle 41 (C-130E,43rd OG, Pope AFB, NC)- w/Andrews Metro (344.6) for wx at 
Seymour-Johnson.  Also wants Metro to let DSN 722-XXXX know their ETA.

RON
MARYLAND, USA
PRO-2045 W/D-130J DISCONE
From wb9omc at nlci.com  Mon Jul 19 22:36:44 2004
From: wb9omc at nlci.com (Duane Mantick)
Date: Mon Jul 19 22:37:18 2004
Subject: [MilCom] RE: [FedCom] 139.9 MHz
In-Reply-To: <000501c46db2$5518a020$8301a8c0@groveent.com>
Message-ID: <000601c46e02$65bea780$926040ce@nlci.com>

Unfortunately, some of these problems originate at
hamfests.  Since I work in an electronic repair shop,
after every hamfest in the area I get some idiot with
one or more HT's that are "rocked" in some business
band freq., marine channel or ham band wanting a "fix"
or a "mod" or a "peak-n-tune".  I turn them all away
and tell them that (as appropriate for the specific radio)
if they don't have a license they shouldn't be using it,
shouldn't be buying it, and shouldn't ever darken my
doorstep again unless they would like a visit from
the FCC.

When I GO to hamfests, I don't see ANYone asking to
see a ham license when selling ham gear.  I was utterly
aghast at Dayton this year to see how much ham gear was
sold to people who had cash but never were asked for any
ID.

I will give credit to AES in Milwaukee - if I call to
order something, they always and I mean ALWAYS ask for
my callsign right up front.  I do not know if that means
he is looking at a Buckmaster disc, or QRZ.com or what,
but at least they ASK.

This goes for dealers as well as individuals out in the
flea market.  I shudder to think how many illicit radio
purchases are made at hamfests........of course, I often
wonder why I see so much marine and business band gear
being OFFERED for sale there.

As individual hams, we have no right bitching about "dealers"
if we will not get our own house in order too.

(and god only knows how many unlicensed GMRS radios are
running around out there......what I hear on that and FRS
is often 100 times worse than anything I ever heard on 
CB)

Duane
WB9OMC licensed for Amateur Service
WPWX735 Licensed for GMRS
KET8490 former license for CB


> -----Original Message-----
> From: milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Larry Van Horn
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 12:03 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Federal Government Communications'; 'mil'
> Subject: [MilCom] RE: [FedCom] 139.9 MHz
> 
> 
> Stand in line Greg. Had them in the ham bands the other day. Have had
> them in the aero and fixed portions of the HF spectrum. Got hunters up
> here in the ham/marine bands. It is up to responsible dealers to do the
> right thing and they aren't. Enforcement starts at the sales counter.
> 
> 73 all,
> 
> Larry Van Horn, N5FPW USN (Ret)
> Monitoring Times Assistant Editor and Milcom Columnist
> WUN Military/Government Newsletter Columnist
> Grove Enterprises Technical Support Department
> Telephone: V-828-837-9200/F-828-837-2216/800-438-8155
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fedcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:fedcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Greg Brazil
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 5:23 PM
> To: mil; fedcom
> Subject: [FedCom] 139.9 MHz
> 
> 
> Just heard some local fishermen talking on 139.9 FM.  "I'm so fxxxxxx 
> mad if I had a gun I could shoot him."
> Greg (SF Bay Area)
> 
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From wb9omc at nlci.com  Mon Jul 19 22:37:56 2004
From: wb9omc at nlci.com (Duane Mantick)
Date: Mon Jul 19 22:38:24 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Nantucket Island Show Now On The Radar Scree
In-Reply-To: <005101c46dc9$f5bfd360$0202a8c0@COMPAQLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <000701c46e02$9088f060$926040ce@nlci.com>

Why is it I feel like I have seen this exchange before?

Duane


> -----Original Message-----
> From: milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Ron Johanson
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 2:53 PM
> To: MILCOM
> Subject: Re: [MilCom] Nantucket Island Show Now On The Radar Scree
> 
> 
> But the ferry is $350 round trip for your car, so $5 shouldn't be the
> problem. By the way, no coolers, so be ready to pay $5 a bottle for water
> and at least $10 for a Watercress Sandwich. Nothing as plebian as a tube
> steak for the great unwashed masses on this island....hopefully the ferry
> fare will keep the riff raff at bay. Your tax dollars at work.....
>     The Fleecing of America!!!
>     Ron
>     Southern NH
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ken" <rfinder1@verizon.net>
> To: "MILCOM" <milcom@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: 18 July, 2004 09:31
> Subject: [MilCom] Nantucket Island Show Now On The Radar Screen
> 
> 
> > See http://www.blueangelsnantucket.com/
> > Show Dates:  9/18 & 9/19/04
> 
> 
> 
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From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Mon Jul 19 23:19:43 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Mon Jul 19 23:22:05 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/19/04
Message-ID: <cf.11b184c4.2e2de94f@aol.com>

Your usual dead Monday. Past few days have been quite plentiful of C/E-2s 
from NAS Norfolk/Chambers.

NAVY COD-02 (C-2, NAS Norfolk) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart 
around 1915z, Cleared to Navy Norfolk (KNGU))

COBRA-50 (EA-6, NAF Washington) 370.875>268.7, takeoff Dobbins. 

NAVY JU-119 (C-9, Nas Norfolk) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared 
to Navy Norfolk (KNGU).

COBB-84 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

PAT-045 (??) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

GUARD-16093 (OH-58, Dobbins) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins.

GREYHAWK-30 (C-2, NAS Norfolk)  120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Rome (GA) (Would return around 2145z, Would later depart around 2200z, Cleared to 
Navy Norfolk (KNGU))

COBB-04 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins. (Worked Pattern for around 
3 hours then in for the night, 0015z)

COBB-50 flight of ?2? (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared to Augusta (GA) (KAGS). (Return around 0250z)

Adam
Marietta,Ga
"VFA-203 Forever"
From mystic at ikansas.com  Mon Jul 19 23:22:02 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Mon Jul 19 23:31:01 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	19 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <001201c46e09$a4e2bb20$accb2740@u5a3b0>

343.700 (KZKC TOPEKA)
1620Z - 285.4 for FAST-14
1731Z - FAST-13
1733Z - CATMAN-02

285.400 (KZKC EMPORIA)
1620Z - FAST-14 FL 250

360.850 (KZKC NORTHEAST KANSAS HIGH DISCRETE)
1956Z - TACO-91

346.300 (KZMP LINCOLN)
1521Z - FAST-12

127.725 (KZKC EMPORIA)
1806Z - SENTRY-41 checking in after completion of AR

132.250 (KZKC EMPORIA)
1810Z - SENTRY-41

125.550 (KZKC BUTLER)
1537Z - KANZA-32 looking for SKULL-25 FLIGHT

135.100 (KZMP HASTINGS)
1535Z - TOPCAT-38

228.450 (20th BOMB SQDN, 2nd BOMB WING; BARKSDALE AFB: A-2-A)
1535Z - SKULL-25 FLIGHT

297.300 (PAWNEE-LAMONI AR TRACK PRIMARY)
1515Z - GASSER-65 co-ordinating w/ SNOOP-29 to conduct AR OPNS & inquires on
status of
TOPCAT-43;    TOPCAT-38 calling for TURBO-13 & 65 w/ 29 go AR SECONDARY

396.200 (PAWNEE-LAMONI AR TRACK SECONDARY)
1518Z - GASSER-65 w/ SNOOP-29

366.300 (AR-116 PRIMARY)
1559Z - KANZA-32 w/ SKULL-25 push AR SECONDARY 260.2

260.200 (AR-116 SECONDARY)
1602Z - KANZA-32 co-ordinates w/ SKULL-25 (60020) & SKULL-26 (60014) to
conduct AR OPNS

343.500 (AR-016)
1545Z - WYLIE-12  co-ordinating w/ (sounded like) PAINT or EIGHT-75 (50125)
to conduct AR OPNS

305.500 (AR-330)
1746Z - KANZA-32 conducts AR OPNS w/ SENTRY-41

119.300 (KSLN TOWER)
1822Z - BOEING-93012 is enroute to MANHATTAN

126.200 (KFRI TOWER)
1837Z - BOEING-93012 checking in prior to descending into MANHATTAN
(I hate that ferrous-hill on the south-west side of Junction City/Ft.
Riley.....it eats ALL radio signals)

286.500 (190th ARW KSANG; FORBES FIELD: WYLIE CONTROL)
1227Z - WYLIE-86
1236Z - WYLIE-87; 20 minutes out & rqst airstairs

311.000 (COMMAND POST)
1454Z - TWO_TIMER pass EAM 640GNQ; simulcasted on 321.0
1455Z - TWO_TIMER pass EAM 7DHPED; simulcasted on 321.0
1504Z - TOW_TIMER pass EAM 7DHNCC; simulcasted on 321.0
1521Z - RAYMOND-21 de TOPCAT-38, query status of tanker TURBO-13
1525Z - TWO_TIMER pass EAM 7DHPED "more to follow, stand-by." Then pass EAM
7DHNCC; all simulcasted on 321.0
1543Z - WYLIE-13 de TOPCAT-38
1545Z - TWO_TIMER pass EAM 7DHPED "more to follow, stand-by." Then pass EAM
7DHNCC; all simulcasted on 321.0
1625Z - TWO_TIMER pass EAM 7DHPED "more to follow, stand-by." Then pass EAM
7DHNCC; all simulcasted on 321.0
1623Z - McCONNELL CMD POST de DECEE-91, 20 minutes out & where is DECEE-92
parked?
1745Z - RAYMOND-21 de JEST-61 (no joy noted)
1807Z - RAYMOND-21 de JEST-61 on company (no joy noted)

321.000 (COMMAND POST)
1454Z - TWO_TIMER pass EAM 640GNQ; simulcasted on 321.0
1455Z - TWO_TIMER pass EAM 7DHPED; simulcasted on 321.0
1504Z - TOW_TIMER pass EAM 7DHNCC; simulcasted on 321.0
1525Z - TWO_TIMER pass EAM 7DHPED "more to follow, stand-by." Then pass EAM
7DHNCC; all simulcasted on 321.0
1545Z - TWO_TIMER pass EAM 7DHPED "more to follow, stand-by." Then pass EAM
7DHNCC; all simulcasted on 321.0
1625Z - TWO_TIMER pass EAM 7DHPED "more to follow, stand-by." Then pass EAM
7DHNCC; all simulcasted on 321.0

368.250 (MID-CONUS TACAMO)
1510 - (NFM) modem w/ voice underneath

370.100 (TACAMO)
1512Z - (NFM) modem

390.550 (NAOC - TACAMO)
1817Z - (NFM) shrill high pitched tone

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walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Mon Jul 19 23:30:15 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Mon Jul 19 23:32:40 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 19 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <194.2aff53cd.2e2debc7@aol.com>

Sightly busier than a normal Monday..

298.40:  REACH 9710, (KC-10A, McGuire), request pp McGuire CP. Pass ETA.
121.60:  ACFT 1604, (E-3B, Tinker), Doing post-maintenance engine run.
372.20:  REACH 414, (C-141C, march), request pp March CP. Pass ETA.
372.20:  SMOKY-12, (C-21A, Peterson), takeoff Colorado Springs. Return later.
121.60:  SCOUT-18, (E-3B, Tinker), cleared out Round-Robin Buckley. 
372.20:  REACH 406T, (Unk), land Colorado Springs.
121.00:  JOSA-114, (C-21A, Peterson), diverting to Buckley from Eagle County 
due to severe turbulence over the mountains. Drop off pax; then on to Colorado 
Springs.
372.20:  JOSA-361, (C-21A, Peterson), land Colorado Springs.
372.20:  SPACE-1, (C-21A), calling Peterson PTD.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From jmhayes at speakeasy.net  Tue Jul 20 02:31:45 2004
From: jmhayes at speakeasy.net (Jordan Hayes)
Date: Tue Jul 20 02:34:12 2004
Subject: [MilCom] RE: [FedCom] 139.9 MHz
References: <000601c46e02$65bea780$926040ce@nlci.com>
Message-ID: <02c001c46e23$3a9f0fb0$1348a8c0@PAD>

> When I GO to hamfests, I don't see ANYone asking to
> see a ham license when selling ham gear.

I guess; you don't need a license to buy, just to operate: if the FCC
doesn't like that, they can change the rules.  Personally, I bought a
transciever a full year before I got my ticket: I believed that the
illegal-to-touch PTT button would force me to take the test :-)

From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Tue Jul 20 03:58:11 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Tue Jul 20 04:01:04 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Seattle Milcom JULY 19
Message-ID: <40FCD093.5070903@verizon.net>

NAS Whidbey arrivals 120.7, 270.8 Appr Ctl

EAGLE 03
EAGLE 15
PUGET 4
RS 608
PUGET 17
RAYGUN 3
something 81 C-130

McChord AFB arrivals 124.8 Tower, 349.4 CP

REACH 9061
TEAL 54
REACH 502

119.325 Gray AAF Tower. Army 20239 inbound

HF
5547.0 CEP MWARA

WYLIE 88 and 89 eastbound


Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA
Northwest Aircraft Communications
http://microvoltradio.com/

From Amtrak35 at aol.com  Tue Jul 20 04:44:24 2004
From: Amtrak35 at aol.com (Amtrak35@aol.com)
Date: Tue Jul 20 04:46:55 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Buffs A/A?
Message-ID: <82.10f866e6.2e2e3568@aol.com>


 Caught a weak overnite call on the tape.Not sure freq but sounded like a 
tanker req tail numbers on possibly 303.000 which i had plugged in.
   Could only make out callsigns 51 and 52 and gave tails as the following...
 59-1497 and 58-0115 at around 0305z
 Not sure but are these B-52 tails? Rare around these parts... Could be 
headed over or back.

 Mark
 Maryland
From unanmatt at aol.com  Tue Jul 20 05:25:11 2004
From: unanmatt at aol.com (unanmatt@aol.com)
Date: Tue Jul 20 05:27:37 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Buffs A/A?
Message-ID: <15d.3a472ded.2e2e3ef7@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/20/2004 3:45:42 AM Central Standard Time, 
Amtrak35@aol.com writes:
Could only make out callsigns 51 and 52 and gave tails as the following...
59-1497 and 58-0115 at around 0305z
Not sure but are these B-52 tails?
Mark,

These are both tail numbers for KC-135E's of the NJ ANG's 150th ARS, 108th 
ARW out of McGuire AFB.

BTW, B-52H tails run from 60-0001 to 60-0062 (except 006, 027, 039, and 040 
which have crashed) and 61-0001 to 61-0040 (except 026, 030, 033, and 037which 
have also crashed). 
61-0025 now flies with NASA.

HTH

Matt Ellis
From mystic at ikansas.com  Tue Jul 20 12:49:16 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Tue Jul 20 12:52:30 2004
Subject: [MilCom] J-STARS & AWACS w/ KIAB METRO
Message-ID: <005401c46e79$869ab300$e8cb2740@u5a3b0>

375.2
1628Z - ______ rqst forecast for ROBBINS AFB @ 1930Z (cheeky devil would not
repeat callsign)

1647Z - SENTRY-05 TINKER forecast for 1900Z
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walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From mystic at ikansas.com  Tue Jul 20 13:36:09 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Tue Jul 20 13:51:35 2004
Subject: [MilCom] RAZOR-33 RTB
Message-ID: <001001c46e81$d3bc8340$e8cb2740@u5a3b0>

296.6
1730Z - RAZOR-33 cleared ST. LOUIS @ FL 290 (STARGATE off station @ 1730Z)

285.4
1732Z - RAZOR-33 checking in direct ST LOUIS @ FL 290

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walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W
From mystic at ikansas.com  Tue Jul 20 15:54:11 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Tue Jul 20 16:27:05 2004
Subject: [MilCom] OFF-TOPIC - Photographers Say Police Harass Them
Message-ID: <000201c46e97$89015720$90cb2740@u5a3b0>

Remember, this could happen to you when you are taking pictures at the
airport outside the fence or that train hauling circus equipment or that
building you photographed so you could build it on that diorama for your
model display.

-----------------------------------------
Photographers Say Police Harass Them
By ELIZABETH M. GILLESPIE, AP

SEATTLE (July 16) - Ian Spiers had just hours to finish an assignment for
his photography class. He was taking shots of a railroad bridge near the
Ballard Locks when an officer with a German shepherd approached him, asked
him what he was doing and requested some ID.
Later, he was questioned and photographed by a Homeland Security agent.

It was the second time in less than two months that Spiers had been
questioned about taking pictures of a landmark that attracts hundreds of
tourists a day, many of whom snap photos of the ships passing between Lake
Union and Elliott Bay.

A growing number of photographers around the country have been similarly
rousted in recent years as they've tried to take pictures of federal
buildings and other major public works, said Donald Winslow, editor of the
National Press Photographers Association's magazine.

"We've seen the constant erosion of our civil liberties amid this cry for
homeland security by doing things that have an appearance of making us safe,
but in reality it's a sham," Winslow said. "No one showed up at the World
Trade Center and took photographs from nine different angles before they
flew planes into it."

The morning of May 26, Spiers explained he was a photography student at a
community college, showed a copy of his assignment, then asked the officer
if he was legally obligated to show his ID.

The officer said no and walked away. But soon after, several armed officers
approached him, including three from the Seattle Police Department and three
from the federal Homeland Security Department.

"I was trying to be calm, but the truth was I was scared out of my mind,"
Spiers said.

This time, Spiers said, a Seattle police officer told him he had no choice
but to show his ID. A Homeland Security agent who flashed his badge told him
he had broken a law by taking pictures of a federal facility.

"We've never seen such a law," said Doug Honig, a spokesman for the American
Civil Liberties Union in Seattle.

Spiers said he complied, spent half an hour answering questions and let a
Homeland Security agent photograph him - after being told he had no choice.

The ACLU has written the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which owns and runs
the locks, asking for the agency's assurance that Spiers will not be
arrested if he returns there.

Corps spokeswoman Patricia Graesser said her agency had no involvement in
the incident and questioned an order Spiers said a homeland security agent
gave him - that he could not return to the locks with his camera without
getting permission in advance.

"Everyone - all members of the public - are welcome on the locks property,
and photographs are allowed, and there's no need to get prior permission,"
she said.

Seattle police spokesman Sean Whitcomb said the department has a duty to
respond to reports of suspicious activity.

Calls to the Homeland Security Department were not immediately returned.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Spiers kept his distance from the
spot where he was questioned, and wore a button on his camera bag that said:
"Annoying but harmless photography student. Do not bend." He made it in
early April, after two police officers showed up at his door, saying they
were responding to a report about a suspicious man taking pictures at the
locks.

Spiers said he'd like to hear one of the officers who questioned him say if
they hassled him because his mocha-colored skin and short black hair made
him look like a terrorist.

"I'm trying to figure out how not to attract attention," said Spiers, 36.
"So far the only thing I can think of is that I can never ever pick up a
camera."

In early June, about 100 photographers crowded onto New York City subway
trains and snapped pictures of each other in protest of the Metropolitan
Transportation Authority's proposed ban on photography in subways and other
public transit.

And Brian Fitzgerald, the chief photographer at the Yakima Herald-Republic,
said a uniformed security officer tried to prevent him from taking a picture
of an immigration office, citing a "law," then calling it a "directive" that
gave the officer the right to confiscate any film with pictures of a federal
facility.

An officer in charge eventually let him take his photos, and he's since been
told there's no reason he can't take them.

"It's frustrating mostly," Fitzgerald said. "I'm not outraged because I
didn't get to the point where I didn't get my photos. It just reminds me
again how much disinformation there is, even in these agencies that are
supposed to know."


07/16/04 02:50 EDT

Copyright 2004 The Associated Press.

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From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Tue Jul 20 20:19:12 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Tue Jul 20 20:21:47 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 20 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <1d0.2647ea3c.2e2f1080@aol.com>

Not a whole lot happening today.

291.675: HORNET-72, (F/A-18E/F, Lemoore), land; then on to Lemoore. 
((Probable delivery flight))
372.20:  JOSA-128, (C-21A), takeoff Colorado Springs.
291.675: ROMAN-11, flight  of 2, (F/A-18, VFA-106, Oceana), land; then on to 
Ft. Campbell. ((Heading back home from Fallon))
372.20:  TORY-303, (?C-12?, Miramar), calling Peterson PTD.
121.60:  SCOUT-19, (E-3B, Tinker), cleared round-robin Buckley.
239.025: ROMAN-21, flight of 2, (F/A-18, VFA-106, Oceana), land Colorado 
Springs
319.00:  LOBO-71, (B-52H, Barksdale), with Denver Center, FL 290, Switch 
354.15.
372.20:  JOSA-355, (C-21A, CO-ANG), land Colorado Springs.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From wb9omc at nlci.com  Tue Jul 20 21:29:46 2004
From: wb9omc at nlci.com (Duane Mantick)
Date: Tue Jul 20 21:30:37 2004
Subject: [MilCom] RE: [FedCom] 139.9 MHz
In-Reply-To: <02c001c46e23$3a9f0fb0$1348a8c0@PAD>
Message-ID: <000d01c46ec2$34dfa7c0$9c6040ce@nlci.com>

Indeed, you *don't* NEED a license to buy.

However, I think most hams who have been around for
a while (in my case, just over 30 years on the bands)
can tell you how often unlicensed folks who buy with
good intentions can NOT keep their fingers off the
transmit key.

And, some who do NOT have such good intentions.  Ever
wonder why they sell 10 meter rigs in truck stops?  I
notice that the FCC has been cracking on THAT one lately
with some stings and other notices, etc.  Too many 
truck drivers on the 10 meter band illegally.  UPS got
a nasty-gram from Old Riley H. about that, I recall.

Frankly, it would be a LOT better if everyone selling
simply refused to sell an Amateur radio capable of
transmitting to anyone without a license.  It would
save the FCC and the rest of us a lot of hassles. As
far a transmitters go, I also have NO problem with 
the FCC creating a law that says "no ticket, no purchase".
GMRS, too.

I'm sure that the manufacturers would probably cringe at
this thought and lobby against it - which would tell us
which manufacturers to put some pressure on.  In this
day and age of technology, why can't those companies
stick a nifty little blocking algorithm into the radio's
processor?  Then, the transmitter could not be activated
(legally) without getting a license, and at that time
you could download an "unlock key" and open up the
transmitter.  Heck, they do that with software already.

To me that seems not only prudent, but easily done if 
the software industry can do it.  Obviously you can't do
that with "legacy" rigs, but it might head off future
problems if implemented in the near future.

Duane
WB9OMC

> -----Original Message-----
> From: milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Jordan Hayes
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 1:32 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Federal Government Communications'; 'mil'
> Subject: Re: [MilCom] RE: [FedCom] 139.9 MHz
> 
> 
> > When I GO to hamfests, I don't see ANYone asking to
> > see a ham license when selling ham gear.
> 
> I guess; you don't need a license to buy, just to operate: if the FCC
> doesn't like that, they can change the rules.  Personally, I bought a
> transciever a full year before I got my ticket: I believed that the
> illegal-to-touch PTT button would force me to take the test :-)
> 
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From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Tue Jul 20 23:14:09 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Tue Jul 20 23:16:47 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/20/04
Message-ID: <8c.100c86c7.2e2f3981@aol.com>

The regular Tuesday here, slow.

TALON-50 (T-45, NAS Meridian) 346.8, lands Dobbins.

LOCKHEED-5491 (C-130J, Lockheed Test) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins. (Worked 
pattern for about 45mins, then back in, 1530z)

GATOR-11 flight of 3 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7>290.8 (A/A, 328.55), 
takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Snowbird MOA. 

GUARD-15267 (UH-1, Dobbins) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins. (Return around 1900z)

LOCKHEED-5501 (WC-130J, Keesler, # 99-5309) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. 
(Return later.)

GATOR-91 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Marine Beaufort (KNBC).

GUARD-22611 (UH-60?, Dobbins?) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart 
around 2340z, Return around 0110z)

NAVY JS-070 (C-9, NAS Atlanta) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

PAT-051 (UC-35?) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

NAVY 7B-948 (UC-12, NAS Atlanta) 134.125, lands Dobbins.

COBB-60 flight of 2 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75>121.0>133.1 (A/A, 239.975), 
takeoff Dobbins. (Return around 0230z)

GUARD-22416 (UH-1, Dobbins) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins. (Return later.)
----------------------------------------------
             MISC
POISON-75 (T-38, Columbus) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 357.6>360.75, 19k to 16k.
SKULL-## (B-52, Barksdale) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 354.05, FL 200
----------------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga
From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Tue Jul 20 23:14:44 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Tue Jul 20 23:17:50 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Seattle Milcom JULY 20
Message-ID: <40FDDFA4.90901@verizon.net>

NAS Whidbey arrivals 118.2, 270.8 Appr Ctl

RAYGUN 1
SKYBOLT 1
SKYBOLT 2
RAMPAGE 2
PJ 691
BISON 81 C-130
DEEPSEA 52
REDEYE 01
RS 608
NAVY YT 903/REDHOOK 801

Departures

REDEYE 01 headed north
NAVY HF 449/REDHOOK 803
EAGLE 01

Misc

349.4 McChord CP. REACH 4707 C-130 inbound from Sea-Tac Intl.
124.8 McChord Tower. COHO 51 inbound, two C-17's
256.8 Gray AAF Tower. BOISE 12 inbound
156.7 Seattle VTS. YTB 812 headed for Everett
http://microvoltradio.com/vr1355/ytb812.jpg

HF
6719.4 TSC Whidbey. REDHOOK 804 ops normal


Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA

From mystic at ikansas.com  Tue Jul 20 20:08:35 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Tue Jul 20 23:25:26 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	20 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <000701c46ed1$fc7717a0$dacb2740@u5a3b0>

316.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE PRIMARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
1201Z - REAPER-11 & REAPER-12 on playground
1401Z - REAPER-51 (single B-1) on playground
1437Z - STARGATE w/ GOLIATH
1443Z - SMOKY de GOLIATH, go.  Discussion of what freq to use for ROADBLOCK.
ROADBLOCK is going to use 237.15
1539Z - SMOKY de LOBO-31 looking for clearance to drop on target # 25
1649Z - WIZARD de JESTER (who/what is JESTER)
1713Z - JESTER is coloring RF1325; Questions WIZARD on emitter signals that
WIZARD is transmitting
1731Z - WIZARD de CORVUS-38
2015Z - SMOKY de LOBO-11, checking in on UNIFORM & will be "working" w/
ANTIDOTE
2127Z - ((sounded like)) CZAR-81 (bad transciever if B-2)
2150Z - REAPER-11 FLIGHT ( Rd # 2) on playground & shifts to Range Secondary
2225Z - REAPER-21 FLIGHT checking in; Might try that with REAPER-31 &
REAPER-32, they are about 35 minutes behind us
2344Z - REAPER-41 (single ship) checking in; 1st planned TOT was initially
for 0007Z, but am running about 11 minutes early

304.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE SECONDARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
1501Z - STARGATE copies all
1503Z - SNAKE-11 has 15 minutes of playtime
1536Z - GOLIATH w/ STARGATE passing track data (STARGATE SIMULCASTING on
254.475)
1537Z - ROADBLOCK de GOLIATH, negative & LOBO has 25 minutes playtime
1558Z - LOBO-32 can re-attack immediately w/ clearance;  ANTIDOTE de LOBO-31
confirm you are on top of "SOLDIER'S CAP"
1657Z - ANTIDOTE de CHAPPY-02
1700Z - CUDA (he spells)-01 w/ ROADBLOCK then ANTIDOTE
2200Z - REAPER-11 FLIGHT

364.200 (AICC)
1407Z - ANY STATION de SENTRY-05 (male operator), signal check
1409Z - STARGATE de GOLIATH_ALPHA, are you NTR?  GOLIATH_ALPHA de STARGATE,
negative will not be NTR for 15 minutes
1411Z - DEERHUNTER de GOLIATH, go ahead
1448Z - JAYHAWK de GOLIATH_ALPHA, signal check
1636Z - DOOM, DOOM de GOLIATH_ALPHA, radio check.   ______ de GOLIATH_ALPHA,
in the blind, we will not be able to do EA today

254.475 ( ____ _____ )
1426Z  - STARGATE de GOLIATH
1450Z - any words on VACUMM?  Am not monitoring AICC att, but heard 1515
1458Z - track is a single KC-135 -------------- supposed to be working
w/RAID-29 on AR-653 but I do not see RAID-29.  STARGATE & GOLIATH sending
various message types.
1556Z - SANDHOG in the TIMBER
1557Z - JAYHAWK de GOLIATH
1603Z - STARGATE looking for msg containing weapons type from GOLIATH (no
joy for STARGATE)
1632Z - STARGATE have you heard from VACUUM?  Affirmative RJ wants to play.
Are they going to come up on this net?  (wonder if that is VACUUM w/
STARGATE on 372.15, which remains GREEN)
1637Z - VACUUM de GOLIATH_ALPHA, signal check over
1644Z - VACUUM  wants to meet you on LINK-43
1649Z - VACUUM de STARGATE, how copy
1656Z - VACUUM de STARGATE, what is status of your TIMBER
1727Z - GOLIATH de STARGATE,  going off-station @ 1730Z, suggest you assume
NTR
1728Z - VACUUM passes TACREP-01
1738Z - VACUUM de GOLIATH, you might want to assume NTR to continue work w/
JAYHAWK as we are going off-station
1744Z - JAYHAWK de VACUUM, we are NTR.  Are you seeing us in TIMBER?
1816Z - VACUUM recieves sitrep fm JESTER
1849Z - JAYHAWK de VACUUM

237.150 ( ____ DISCRETE)
1424Z - ANTIDOTE de STARGATE
1440Z - ANTIDOTE de STARGATE, we have negative comms w/ ROADBLOCK on 316.9.
1447Z - ROADBLOCK de GOLIATH have you LIMA_CHARLIE; say airspace
restrictions for SMOKY & BISON

376.125 (J-STARS A-2-A)
1502Z - STARGATE asking about SNAKE-11
1636Z - CUDDA-01 is 70 miles out
1715Z - chatter about trip to NELLIS involving at least J-STARS & SENTRY for
the end of the month

372.150 (J-STAR)
1538Z - I HATE GREEN COMMS!!  Worse than TACAMO modems!!!!!!!!

225.800 (NORAD)
1512Z - SNAKE-11 contacts GOLIATH

363.200 (KZKC SALINA)
1407Z - GOLIATH working airspace co-ordination for the "PARTY"
1527Z - SNAKE-11 FLIGHT looking for direct SPRINGFIELD, IL.
1530Z - LOBO-31 FLIGHT
1549Z - SENTRY-05 signal check (sounded like)
1551Z - CHUBBY-01 descending to 16000
1613Z - 2966 LOBO-31 push
2011Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT
2049Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT, rqst direct SOUIX FALLS
2210Z - REAPER-11 FLIGHT, direct LIBERAL, non-standard formation 3 miles in
trail

343.700 (KZKC TOPEKA)
1712Z - was that 2??.?? for CZAR-81

296.600 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
1730Z - RAZOR-33 cleared ST. LOUIS @ FL 290
2010Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT push 363.2
2052Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT cleared to FL 330; push 12

285.400 (KZKC EMPORIA)
1732Z - RAZOR-33 checking in, direct ST LOUIS @ FL 290

323.200 (KZKC EMPORIA)
1852Z - CUDA-01 FLIGHT

257.750 (KZKC SOUTHWEST KANSAS HIGH DISCRETE)
1852Z - BATT-71

327.000 (KZKC BUTLER)
1905Z - FAST-50

337.400 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
2212Z - REAPER-11 FLIGHT

269.400 (KZKC GARDEN CITY)
2218Z - REAPER-11 FLIGHT

307.200 (KZMP HASTINGS)
2054Z - LOBO-11 (UNIFORM 12) checking in

141.575 (183rd FW, 170th FS, ILANG; SPRINGFIELD, ILLINOIS: VICTOR-18)
1516Z - SNAKE-11, SNAKE-12, SNAKE-13 & SNAKE-14

139.700  (114th FW SDANG; SOUIX FALLS, SOUTH DAKOTA: VICTOR-13)
1521Z - LOBO-31 FLIGHT
2012Z - LOBO-11 chatting w/ SMOKY while they are 40 miles to the north

138.400  (442nd FW; WHITEMAN AFB: VICTOR-??)
1541Z - am talking to GOLIATH
1618Z - LOBOS are gone, going to come up to 17 - 18
1711Z - CUDA-01 FLIGHT

227.800 (442nd FW OPNS; WHITEMAN AFB: UNIFORM-01)
1814Z - sounded like CUDA-01 calling

337.750 (7th BOMB WING; DYRESS AFB; A-2-A)
1203Z - REAPER-11 FLIGHT
2215Z - REAPER-11 FLIGHT
2222Z - REAPER-21 FLIGHT
2253Z - REAPER-21 w/ REAPER-31

337.250  (7th BOMB WING; DYRESS AFB; A-2-A)
1530Z - ____-71 w/ ____-72

149.350 (138th FW OKANG; TULSA, OKLAHOMA: VICTOR-12)
1922Z - CREEK-01 FLIGHT

327.600 (AR-110)
0259Z - TURBO-45 conduct AR OPNS w/ SENTRY-32

297.300 (PAWNEE-LAMONI AR TRACK PRIMARY)
1635Z - HAPPY-61 (580003) conducts AR OPNS w/ CORVUS-38

343.500 (AR-110)
1658Z - BAT-23 passing end-of-AR infromation to ______

353.500 (KICT APP - DEP)
0256Z - SHOOT-32 is out of 5000 for 4000 (foreign student)

326.200 (KEND APP)
1826Z - APP NORTH de BISON-42
1849Z - CODER-05
1917Z - HYDRA-35 going ATIS
1920Z - HYDRA-93 out of 15XXX for 8XXX

126.200 (KFRI TOWER)
1921Z - CHOPPER--984

255.400 (FLIGHT SERVICE)
0251Z - VANDY-24 rqst departure msg be sent showing them off LNK @ 0230Z &
ETA END 0430Z

375.200 (KIAB METRO)
1628Z - RAZOR-33 rqst forecast for ROBBINS AFB @ 1930Z (cheeky devil would
not
repeat callsign got it from another freq so there!)
1647Z - SENTRY-05 rqst TINKER forecast for 1900Z

344.600 (KSZL METRO)
1514Z - JOSA-128 rqsts weather for ADW @ 1730Z
1702Z - ACE-01

227.400 (KOFF METRO)
1733Z - RAID-21

286.500 (190th ARW KSANG; FORBES FIELD: WYLIE CONTROL)
1923Z - WYLIE-23

301.600 (184th ARW KSANG; McCONNELL AFB: TWISTER OPNS)
2210Z - JAYHAWK-11 is overhead WICHITA; 20K on the fuel; CODE-1 & will be
full stop

381.300 (ACC CMD POST)
1827Z - RAYMOND-24 de SENTRY-05; rqst pp to VIKING OPNS for VIKING-03.  I am
to understand you are UNABLE to do a pp?  We have a medical situation (NFI)
and need flight doctor to check it.  ETA TINKER is 20 minutes & original
plan was 1 touch & go then a full stop

370.100 (TACAMO)
1516Z (NFM) modem
1742Z (NFM) modem w/ voice under it

290.550 (NAOC - TACAMO)
2000Z - shrill high pitched tone

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From jehaverlah at pdq.net  Tue Jul 20 23:39:55 2004
From: jehaverlah at pdq.net (Jeff Haverlah)
Date: Tue Jul 20 23:43:43 2004
Subject: [MilCom] MIL: 13155.0 - AWARENESS
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20040720223836.00a2e220@mail.pdq.net>

0339z  21 Jul 04

      13155.0 was active at 0337z with AWARENESS (good/fair levels here) 
bcsting a 28-character EAM (7D2VMS) and simulcasting same on 11244.0 
(good/fair), 8992.0 (weak/fair) and 6697.0 (fair).  H+07/h+37 activity.

Jeff Haverlah

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From av8tor at flash.net  Wed Jul 21 09:28:17 2004
From: av8tor at flash.net (GeorgeF.)
Date: Wed Jul 21 09:33:30 2004
Subject: [MilCom] RE: [FedCom] 139.9 MHz
In-Reply-To: <000d01c46ec2$34dfa7c0$9c6040ce@nlci.com>
References: <02c001c46e23$3a9f0fb0$1348a8c0@PAD>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040721092650.0dc7fde8@pop.flash.yahoo.com>


>
>I'm sure that the manufacturers would probably cringe at
>this thought and lobby against it - which would tell us
>which manufacturers to put some pressure on.  In this
>day and age of technology, why can't those companies
>stick a nifty little blocking algorithm into the radio's
>processor?  Then, the transmitter could not be activated
>(legally) without getting a license, and at that time
>you could download an "unlock key" and open up the
>transmitter.  Heck, they do that with software already.
>
>Duane
>WB9OMC


Sounds like "RadioControl" just like "GunControl".  Next we'll have to put 
"trigger locks" on our radios....And I think it would work about the 
same.....NOT...

George - KI4FIA - Daytona Beach, FL
"Gun Control is using two hands"
http://www.MilAirComms.com

From Rapbep at aol.com  Wed Jul 21 10:02:29 2004
From: Rapbep at aol.com (Rapbep@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 21 10:05:28 2004
Subject: [MilCom] New 99th AS Callsign
Message-ID: <88.f7bea39.2e2fd175@aol.com>

All,

Today, in the 0900 hour (EDT) had Mafia 74 and an unidentified Venus aircraft 
up in A-A chat on 142.75 AM.  This is normally the Venus Control freq at 
Andrews so they were probably using it as an A-A since it's one of their pre-sets.

The Venus aircraft was coordinating their navigational routes with Mafia 74. 
In their chat Venus asked Mafia 74 to use Tacan 92X as an A-A freq instead of 
92Y, which they didn't have. Mafia 74 was trailing the Venus aircraft about 5 
miles to his right and about 4,000 ft lower in altitude.

This is the first time I've heard the Mafia callsign used by Andrews 
aircraft. Must be a new 99th AS call. 

Anyone have the freqs for 92X & 92Y so I could plug them in my scanner just 
in case.

RON
MARYLAND, USA
PRO-2045 W/D-130J DISCONE
From Rapbep at aol.com  Wed Jul 21 10:34:41 2004
From: Rapbep at aol.com (Rapbep@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 21 10:37:30 2004
Subject: [MilCom] DC Area Logs, 21 Jul 04
Message-ID: <19b.27482dc2.2e2fd901@aol.com>

 Logs are from a few hours listening in the morning (0700-1030 EDT)

1. ANDREWS AFB (KADW): 
[Tower (118.4/349.0); CP (141.55;378.1); PTD (122.85; 372.2): Potomac 
TRACON/Reagan National APP/DEP(119.3;335.5;124.2;118.95;119.85;125.65)] 

HOME BASED:

Track 66 (C-21 # 84-0066, AFFSA)- depart
Bully flight (4 X F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG)- on sqdn freqs (127.275 & 139.35)
Wild flight (4 X F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG)- depart for Pax River areas. On sqdn 
freq (143.15)
SAM 7701- land
Mussel 05, 07, 08 (UH-1s !st Helo Sqdn)- local area operations.
Mafia 74 (unidentified, probable 99th AS)- on Venus Control freq (142.75) 
w/unidentified Venus aircraft coordinating navigational routes. Will use Tacan 
92X as air-to-air freq.
Venus 42 (VC-37A # 99-0402, 99th AS)- depart for 3 hour training flight to 
Allentown PA.

VISITORS :

PAT 353 (id as # 4-0145)- fro pax pick up and go.
Evac 81358- land

2. PATUXENT RIVER NAS (KNHK):
[NTPS-Test Pilot School; NSATS (VX-23)-Strike Aircraft Test Squadron; NFATS 
(VX-20)-Force Aircraft Test Squadron-;NRWATS (HX-21)-Rotary Wing Aircraft Test 
Squadron- 119.275; 120.05; 123.7; 127.95; 256.5; 270.8; 281.8; 354.8]

Navy 7C506 (C-12 AOD NAS Chambers)- w/approach (120.05)
PAT 22- w/approach (120.05).
Tester 00 (probable F-18, NTPS)- w/Bay Watch (264.15)
Tester 443 (NP-3D, NTPS)- w/Bay Watch (256.5) & working w/Tester 38 (C-12, 
NTPS)
Lobo 207 (C-9, MCAS Cherry Point)- w/approach (120.05).

3. Davison AAF, Ft Bevoir VA (KDAA):
Tower (126.3/229.4/241.0); Potomac approach/departure (118.85/118.95/119.85); 
Base Ops (139.4).

PAT 43 (helo)- land
Ross 448 (FBI Cessna 172, Manassas)- land
PAT 360- w/Ops (139.4) then land.
PAT 1204 (probable C-12)- w/Ops (139.4) then land. Wamts quick turn around.
Sunny 368 (RC-12, Hunter AAF Savannah GA)- w/Ops (139.4) then land.

4. Martin State Airport (KMTN):
104th Fighter Sqdn MD ANG; 135th Airlift Sqdn MD ANG-Tower (121.3/297.2); 
Raven Ops (143.8/347.2); Crab Ops (385.9)

Axeman flight (2 X A-10s, 104th FS)- w/Patuxent River (314.0) for entry into 
area R-6609.

5. Marine Corps Air Facility (MCAF) Quantico (KNYG):
Tower (118.6/360.2); Approach/Departure (127.05/290.375); Base Ops (355.3). 

6. MISCELLANEOUS:

Idaho 92 (FBI aircraft)- w/Potomac departure (125.65) establishing orbit 
areas.
Navy 319 (probable C-12)- w/Potomac departure (125.65) then w/Patuxent River 
(127.95) for flight following to McGuire AFB NJ.

RON
MARYLAND, USA
PRO-2045 W/D-130J DISCONE
From larry at grove-ent.com  Wed Jul 21 10:41:18 2004
From: larry at grove-ent.com (Larry Van Horn)
Date: Wed Jul 21 10:43:44 2004
Subject: [MilCom] RE: [Scan-DC] New 99th AS Callsign
In-Reply-To: <88.f7bea39.2e2fd175@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000401c46f30$cb6b80b0$8301a8c0@groveent.com>

>From the NTIA Redbook, section 4.3.5, page 4-194

Channel	92X 
VOR - 114.50 Int. Freq 1116 MHz, Pulse Code  12 v 	Reply Freq 1179
MHz,  Pulse Code 12 ?sec
Channel 92Y 
VOR - 114.55 Int. Freq 1116 MHz, Pulse code 36 ?sec	Reply Freq 1053
MHz, Pulse Code  30 ?sec

Before we get side tracked as we did once before on this subject, these
are the Air-Air navigation freqs used for tanker-receiver nav (please
note the pulse code etc above). These are definitely NOT A-A voice
channels.

73 all and thanks for the new call Ron. You?re da man.

Larry Van Horn, N5FPW USN (Ret)
Monitoring Times Assistant Editor and Milcom Columnist
WUN Military/Government Newsletter Columnist
Grove Enterprises Technical Support Department
Telephone: V-828-837-9200/F-828-837-2216/800-438-8155


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From: scan-dc-bounces@mailman.qth.net
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Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:02 AM
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Subject: [Scan-DC] New 99th AS Callsign


All,

Today, in the 0900 hour (EDT) had Mafia 74 and an unidentified Venus
aircraft 
up in A-A chat on 142.75 AM.  This is normally the Venus Control freq at

Andrews so they were probably using it as an A-A since it's one of their
pre-sets.

The Venus aircraft was coordinating their navigational routes with Mafia
74. 
In their chat Venus asked Mafia 74 to use Tacan 92X as an A-A freq
instead of 
92Y, which they didn't have. Mafia 74 was trailing the Venus aircraft
about 5 
miles to his right and about 4,000 ft lower in altitude.

This is the first time I've heard the Mafia callsign used by Andrews 
aircraft. Must be a new 99th AS call. 

Anyone have the freqs for 92X & 92Y so I could plug them in my scanner
just 
in case.

RON
MARYLAND, USA
PRO-2045 W/D-130J DISCONE
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From jehaverlah at pdq.net  Wed Jul 21 11:58:18 2004
From: jehaverlah at pdq.net (Jeff Haverlah)
Date: Wed Jul 21 12:02:13 2004
Subject: [MilCom] MIL: 11175.0 - AXE KNIFE
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20040721105407.00a24770@mail.pdq.net>

1554z  21 Jul 04

      8992.0 was active at 1541z with AXE KNIFE (weak/readable levels here) 
calling MAINSAIL and raising ANDREWS (unheard here) and being moved to 11175.0.

      11175.0 was active at 1543z with AXE KNIFE (weak/readable) calling 
and raising ANDREWS (weak/unreadable to unheard) for a phone patch to a 
commercial toll free 866 number (SUB SONIC) for some orderwire coordination 
(WHITE ASH (gep alias) transitioning to SUB SONIC (gep); 7C) and gone.

Jeff Haverlah

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From ronvking at ntlworld.com  Wed Jul 21 12:39:58 2004
From: ronvking at ntlworld.com (Ron King)
Date: Wed Jul 21 12:43:21 2004
Subject: [MilCom] RE: [Scan-DC] New 99th AS Callsign
In-Reply-To: <000401c46f30$cb6b80b0$8301a8c0@groveent.com>
Message-ID: <000301c46f41$629f9740$6002a8c0@desktop>


Hi,

More likely they were using the tacan to assist with the joinn up in a
similar way that is done with air refueling rather than for a natter.

Rgds Ron 




-----Original Message-----
From: scan-dc-bounces@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:scan-dc-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rapbep@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:02 AM
To: milcom@mailman.qth.net; scan-dc@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Scan-DC] New 99th AS Callsign


All,

Today, in the 0900 hour (EDT) had Mafia 74 and an unidentified Venus
aircraft 
up in A-A chat on 142.75 AM.  This is normally the Venus Control freq at

Andrews so they were probably using it as an A-A since it's one of their
pre-sets.

The Venus aircraft was coordinating their navigational routes with Mafia
74. 
In their chat Venus asked Mafia 74 to use Tacan 92X as an A-A freq
instead of 
92Y, which they didn't have. Mafia 74 was trailing the Venus aircraft
about 5 
miles to his right and about 4,000 ft lower in altitude.

This is the first time I've heard the Mafia callsign used by Andrews 
aircraft. Must be a new 99th AS call. 

Anyone have the freqs for 92X & 92Y so I could plug them in my scanner
just 
in case.

RON
MARYLAND, USA
PRO-2045 W/D-130J DISCONE
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From wa8vzq at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 21 13:28:11 2004
From: wa8vzq at hotmail.com (dan wanchic)
Date: Wed Jul 21 13:30:53 2004
Subject: [MilCom] TACAN Channel numbers vs frequency
Message-ID: <BAY14-F24DYZ3LpmuOG000d885f@hotmail.com>

To make a long story short and as Larry has already indicated
- the frequencies for channels 92X and 92Y

The aircraft interrogator freq is 1116 MHz.
The X channel ground station freq is 1179 MHz.
The Y channel ground station freq is 1053 MHz.

I'm not familiar with any milcoms using that freq range other than for 
TACAN/DME
purposes and would be interested in reading anything that anyone has to 
offer.

For those who are interested.

TACAN is what is known as a Rho-Theta system. It provides distance
Rho data and Azimuth Theta data to the aircraft.

It is a pulse modulation system. The aircraft transmits two pulses,
what we call a pulse pair.

In an X channel system the pulses are 3.5 microseconds wide and they
are spaced 12 microseconds apart. Most civilian systems use X channel
spacing.

In a Y channel system the pulses are 3.5 microseconds wide and they
are spaced 36 microseconds apart.

Regardless of the type of channel, the ground station receives the 
interrogation
from the aircraft. It waits exactly 50 microseconds and then it sends a 
pulse pair reply.

In an X channel system the ground station pulse spacing is 12 microseconods 
and a
Y channel it is 30 microseconds. A typical ground station transmits about 
3500 watts.
Pure DME systems usually run 1000 watts if located with a VOR or 100 watts 
if
associated with an ILS.

The aircraft measures the time it takes to receive its reply from the ground 
station and
uses this time to calculate its slant range distance from the ground 
station. This part of
the system is also known as DME or distance measuring equipment in civilian 
aircraft.

The azimuth portion of the system is much more complicated and would be 
difficult to
capture in a brief message. Most TACAN systems use a rotating antenna which 
is essentially
a three element yagi that rotates at 900 rpm. There are a few phased array 
antennas but
most are motor driven. In addition to replies, the ground station also sends 
a series of pulses
know as the North reference burst or NRB's and Auxillary reference bursts or 
ARB's that are triggered by the antenna rotation. And it transmits a 3 
letter morse ID.

The aircraft uses these pulse streams to measure where it is relative to the 
station. This is
the Theta part of the system. There is no civilian equivalent to this 
component and it does
not operate on the same prinicple as a VOR.

Both military and civilain aircraft use the DME part of the system.

TACAN channels are numbered 1X through 126X and 1Y through 126Y.

Channel 1X the aircraft interrogator transmits on 1025 MHz and the ground 
station
replies on 962 MHz.

Channel 1Y the aircraft interrogator transmits on 1025 MHz and the ground 
station
replies on 1088 Mhz.

There is a 63 MHz difference between the transmit and receive freqs for 
TACAN/DME.
So all of these systems conveniently have 63 MHz IF's.

The frequencies assigned to the channels increases by 1 MHz for increases 
for the
aircraft interrogator 1 MHz for each channel number above channel 1. It's 
necessary
to subtract 1 from the channel number. As an example channel 57 is 1081 MHz 
-
add 56 to 1025 MHz = 1081. the aircraft interrogation freq is the same for 
both
X and Y channels.

The ground station frequency plan is more complicated.

As a side note - spent a lovely day yesterday working on an ILS at the 
Duluth airport.
Plenty of F-16's buzzing back and forth. They were using the Zipgun ident 
yesterday.
Those boys are somewhat loud when they fly directly over you and they are 
about
100 feet off the deck!

Dan

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From sdaitch at ibb.gov  Wed Jul 21 13:33:37 2004
From: sdaitch at ibb.gov (Sheldon Daitch)
Date: Wed Jul 21 13:36:12 2004
Subject: [MilCom] RE: [Scan-DC] New 99th AS Callsign
References: <000301c46f41$629f9740$6002a8c0@desktop>
Message-ID: <40FEA8F1.906668B@ibb.gov>

Take a look at:

  http://microvoltradio.com/tacan.htm

The VHF channels listed are for reference only, in that
"real" TACAN equipment normally does not use the VHF
frequency information for anything.

When you have a TACAN, a co-located DME (distance
measuring equipment) and azimuth system, the corresponding
VHF frequency allows DME equipped aircraft to tune their
DME system to that channel, for range information.  The DME
receiver will not display any bearing information, only the
distance information.  If a VOR has a colocated DME system,
the DME channel is automatically paired, frequency-wise, for
that VOR VHF channel.

Trivia, DME readings normally will never go to "zero", for when
an aircraft flies directly over a DME station (or the DME
component of a TACAN,  VORTAC or VOR-DME system,
the aircraft is still a distance away from the DME system, due
to altitude.

73
Sheldon
WA4MZZ


Ron King wrote:

> Hi,
>
> More likely they were using the tacan to assist with the joinn up in a
> similar way that is done with air refueling rather than for a natter.
>
> Rgds Ron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scan-dc-bounces@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:scan-dc-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rapbep@aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:02 AM
> To: milcom@mailman.qth.net; scan-dc@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Scan-DC] New 99th AS Callsign
>
> All,
>
> Today, in the 0900 hour (EDT) had Mafia 74 and an unidentified Venus
> aircraft
> up in A-A chat on 142.75 AM.  This is normally the Venus Control freq at
>
> Andrews so they were probably using it as an A-A since it's one of their
> pre-sets.
>
> The Venus aircraft was coordinating their navigational routes with Mafia
> 74.
> In their chat Venus asked Mafia 74 to use Tacan 92X as an A-A freq
> instead of
> 92Y, which they didn't have. Mafia 74 was trailing the Venus aircraft
> about 5
> miles to his right and about 4,000 ft lower in altitude.
>
> This is the first time I've heard the Mafia callsign used by Andrews
> aircraft. Must be a new 99th AS call.
>
> Anyone have the freqs for 92X & 92Y so I could plug them in my scanner
> just
> in case.
>
> RON
> MARYLAND, USA
> PRO-2045 W/D-130J DISCONE
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From baycomm at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 21 16:33:43 2004
From: baycomm at earthlink.net (Greg Brazil)
Date: Wed Jul 21 16:35:36 2004
Subject: [MilCom] NavNews for Wednesday, July 21, 2004
In-Reply-To: <04Jul21.123636edt.330467@gateway.mediacen.navy.mil>
References: <04Jul21.123636edt.330467@gateway.mediacen.navy.mil>
Message-ID: <40FED327.2090108@earthlink.net>

It should be busy in the Norfolk area soon.  I'll be at the Reagans
homecoming this Friday in San Diego.
Greg (SF Bay Area)

>                                    -USN-
> 
>  NNS040721-09. Four Carrier Strike Groups To Return From
>  Summer Pulse '04
> 
>  From Commander, U.S. 2nd Fleet Public Affairs
> 
>  NORFOLK, Va. (NNS) -- After successfully demonstrating
>  responsive, credible combat power across the globe by operating
>  in five theaters with other U.S., allied and coalition military forces,
>  four carrier strike groups (CSGs), including their associated ships,
>  submarines, aircraft and more than 20,000 Sailors, are returning
>  July 22 through July 26. 
> 
>  These include forces from USS George Washington (CVN 73)
>  (GW), USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75), and USS Enterprise
>  (CVN 65) CSGs. USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76) is pulling into its
>  new home port of San Diego over this same period. 
> 
>  These arrivals come after the concurrent deployments of seven
>  CSGs in "Summer Pulse '04," the Navy's first exercise of its new
>  operational construct, the Fleet Response Plan (FRP). 
> 
>  Summer Pulse '04 exercised the logistics and shore infrastructure
>  necessary to execute a large scale surge operation and stressed
>  the operational concepts in the Navy's Sea Power 21 strategy. It
>  also served to strengthen maritime capabilities by improving Navy
>  interoperability with more than 23 allies and coalition partners, as
>  well as other U.S. military forces. U.S. Navy ships and aircraft
>  participated in more than 13 exercises in the Atlantic and Pacific
>  Oceans, the Arabian, Baltic, Mediterranean, North and Red Seas,
>  and the Sea of Japan and Persian Gulf. 
> 
>  Since Summer Pulse '04 began June 3, the Navy exercised a full
>  range of skills in all maritime warfare areas, including but not
>  limited to surface, air, subsurface, and amphibious warfare, while
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> 
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> 
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> 
>                                    -USN-


From paratrooper202 at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 21 17:57:47 2004
From: paratrooper202 at earthlink.net (Christopher  Corley)
Date: Wed Jul 21 18:00:31 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	NTIA Federal Long-Range Spectrum Plan - 1300 to 10, 000 MHz
Message-ID: <008d01c46f6d$c3b42ce0$a6d79904@computer>

This also is worth a look.
Chris Corley

 http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/LRSP/LRSP5b.htm
From paratrooper202 at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 21 17:59:03 2004
From: paratrooper202 at earthlink.net (Christopher  Corley)
Date: Wed Jul 21 18:01:45 2004
Subject: [MilCom] NTIA Federal Long-Range Spectrum Plan - 10 to 100 GHz
Message-ID: <009601c46f6d$f114b100$a6d79904@computer>

As well as this one. These links should clear up Question.
Chris Corley

 http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/LRSP/LRSP5c.htm
From paratrooper202 at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 21 18:49:39 2004
From: paratrooper202 at earthlink.net (Christopher  Corley)
Date: Wed Jul 21 18:52:29 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 30 to 1300.000 MHz  Long range spectrum (Federal Gov)
Message-ID: <005e01c46f75$02e16840$5f5a9a04@computer>

http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/LRSP/LRSP5a.htm

This is the first part of the links.
Chris Corley
From Amtrak35 at aol.com  Wed Jul 21 19:58:15 2004
From: Amtrak35 at aol.com (Amtrak35@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 21 20:01:06 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KDOV evening log
Message-ID: <143.2e74c97f.2e305d17@aol.com>


 REACH 411 with Andrews CP 378.100 ppr eta KGBR at 0115z
 JOSA 409 "departed Boston Logan enr Colo Springs via Scott AFB 378.100
 FENDY 05 arrive Andrews,5 pax,req c/ag 2135z
 REACH 4637 arrive Dover,uploads,thruloads.

 Mark
 Maryland
From roadkill at strange.net  Wed Jul 21 19:57:33 2004
From: roadkill at strange.net (roadkill@strange.net)
Date: Wed Jul 21 20:04:44 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HEADS UP S. NEW ENGLAND
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040721195336.02440f08@mail.strange.net>

hey all long time no post...
huntress is up on 260.9  with cosmic #1 #2
playing intercept games


well back to my hole.....


adam
on the west bay in hot & steamy rhode island
ic-r10
sony icfsw7600g

From wb9omc at nlci.com  Wed Jul 21 20:26:34 2004
From: wb9omc at nlci.com (Duane Mantick)
Date: Wed Jul 21 20:27:39 2004
Subject: [MilCom] RE: [FedCom] 139.9 MHz
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040721092650.0dc7fde8@pop.flash.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000901c46f82$8b3d52a0$7f6040ce@nlci.com>

There is a striking similarity in ONE sense - 
the people we are talking about are ILLEGAL operators
who can and DO cause disruption, interference and
even damage and potentially, death (too many cases of idiots
interfering with emergency vehicles, aircraft, etc.)
by their irresponsible actions.

I agree that gun control is "using two hands" or as I
usually say it, "hitting your target".  :-)  Nor am I
a fan of gun control when it interferes with my 
perception of the 2nd amendment being the right of 
*law abiding citizens* to own and use and enjoy firearms.

RESPONSIBLY.  Key word.

The stereotype of the drunken hunter shooting everything
BUT his target is all too real here in Indiana, I am
sorry to say.

And, also unfortunately, the irresponsible use of radios
that individuals are not legally licensed to use happens
EVERYWHERE in the US.  Unlike bullets, radio waves have a
considerably long range and the ability to adversely
affect a much larger number of people.  Such people who
apparently have nothing better to do with themselves
than to get their jollies interfering with legitimate
and where applicable, *licensed* radio users, at minimum
interfere with multiple radio services and inconvenience
hundreds or even thousands of people depending on the
situation....and if one jackass with an illegal aviation
radio would cause an aircraft to take the wrong action
at the wrong time (and yes, it DOES get tried - if you
examine FCC enforcement actions you will find records
of people playing pseudo-air-traffic-controller) the
cost could conceivably be hundreds of lives in one, stupid,
arrogant, irresponsible action.

Do you think that terrorist cells in the US already might
not try this?  Nobody thought anyone would fly an airplane
into the WTC, either, unless it was an accident.  Disruption
of communications is absolutely a viable terrorist tactic
and not really much different than what we did to the 
Iraqi military every time we attacked them.  Disrupt their
communications to prevent as many of our own losses as
possible.  Confuse and delay possible responses.

I think your reply was a knee-jerk reaction to what you
felt was a hot-button issue, judging by your instant
reference to the gun issue (AKA, the RKBA or Right to Keep
and Bear Arms).  I can understand that, as a supporter 
of the RKBA.

I also believe that *reasonable* steps taken to stop or
reduce serious problems are NOT hostile acts but for those
of us who "do radio" legally, positive and protective actions.
I would think that as a licensed Amateur operator in spite of
evidently limited experience as a Tech+ (according to
QRZ.com, I went and looked up the callsign), you would
appreciate the value of keeping illegal operations down
if not out.

If you were operating as part of a severe weather net on
the 2 meter band, trying perhaps to save some lives, what
would you do if some unlicensed idiot with a 2 meter rig
jammed your local repeater?  I'm bringing the point right
home to where you live, George, because if you stay a ham
as long as I have (30+ years) sooner or later you're going
to run into this problem.  You can stick your head in the
sand and be PART of the problem, or you can work towards
being part of the solution.

One path says that you should return your license to the
FCC and get out of radio.  The other path would make you
welcomed into the broader Amateur community.  Take your
choice.  It is time for us to work to put an end to 
illegal radio operators, and to that end work WITH the
FCC to help them do it, and not work against them.

Duane
WB9OMC
Amateur Extra Class
seen too much crap on the air to "let it slide"

> -----Original Message-----
> From: milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of GeorgeF.
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 8:28 AM
> To: milcom@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [MilCom] RE: [FedCom] 139.9 MHz
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >I'm sure that the manufacturers would probably cringe at
> >this thought and lobby against it - which would tell us
> >which manufacturers to put some pressure on.  In this
> >day and age of technology, why can't those companies
> >stick a nifty little blocking algorithm into the radio's
> >processor?  Then, the transmitter could not be activated
> >(legally) without getting a license, and at that time
> >you could download an "unlock key" and open up the
> >transmitter.  Heck, they do that with software already.
> >
> >Duane
> >WB9OMC
> 
> 
> Sounds like "RadioControl" just like "GunControl".  Next we'll 
> have to put 
> "trigger locks" on our radios....And I think it would work about the 
> same.....NOT...
> 
> George - KI4FIA - Daytona Beach, FL
> "Gun Control is using two hands"
> http://www.MilAirComms.com
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From mystic at ikansas.com  Wed Jul 21 20:23:23 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Wed Jul 21 20:48:43 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	21 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <001701c46f85$2a1d18e0$3bcb2740@u5a3b0>

316.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE PRIMARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
0008Z - REAPER-31 w/ REAPER-41 having a "discussion" about REAPER-41 working
CAS
mission w/ FACs
1220Z - HAWK-11 & HAWK-12 on playground
1537Z - LOBO-41 FLIGHT (UNIFORM BUTTON-14) is over range @ 16000.  Rg,
understand cleared on range & will talk to ANTIDOTE in few minutes; 40
minutes of playtime
1611Z - FURY-31 & FURY-32 take their turn on the playground
1811Z - CZAR-84
1849Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT checking in
1849Z - CZAR-83
1852Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT (UNIFORM-18) on playground prior to departing to
conduct AR OPNS w/ BAT-33 in BISON MOA using AR-653 freq & then returns for
short playtime
1915Z - BULLDOG-01 FLIGHT rqsting clearance on range & then departs to
conduct AR OPNS w/
BAT-33 prior to returning to playground
2014Z - BULLDOG-01 de LOBO-11, what are you exit intentions?  BULLDOG-01 is
exiting to the northeast @ 8000.  Rg, LOBO-11 is @ 10000 to the north.
SMOKY de BULLDOG-01, rqst permission to enter
R-3601 & have visual on GUARD chopper vicinity of SOLDIER'S CAP.  ALMIGHTY
is GND FAC for LOBO-11
2041Z - CZAR-85 FLIGHT (CZAR-85 & FURY-36) cleared into BISON MOA FL 4000
2139Z - CZAR-85 FLIGHT working w/ ALMIGHTY
2153Z - HAWK-31 working w/ ALMIGHTY
2217Z - SMOKY de JAYHAWK-33, we are trying to raise HAWK-31.  Rg, HAWK-31 de
JAYHAWK-33, AR-653 is unavailable due to civilian tfc; CENTRE has offered us
higher altitudes in BISON.
2330Z - JAYHAWK-33 de (sounded like) DARK-44

304.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE SECONDARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
0016Z - WIZARD de REAPER-41
1849Z - ANTIDOTE de BLACKSHEEP-01 & BLACKSHEEP-02
1854Z - CZAR-84 rqsting scores

363.200 (KZKC SALINA)
1507Z - HAWK-51 FL 190 direct LIBERAL
1530Z - LOBO-41 FLIGHT (UNIFORM BUTTON-13); push 14
1608Z - LOBO-41 FLIGHT egressing & diverting right to climb & miss weather
1852Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT @ 10000; push 18
1902Z - CZAR-83 rqst direct EMPORIA & CZAR-84 direct KFOE
1951Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT egressing, push 16
2007Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT
2015Z - BULLDOG-01 egressing & rqst IFR DES MOINES
2039Z - CZAR-85 FLIGHT
2153Z - CZAR-85 rqst direct SALINA & FURY-36 direct EMPORIA

296.600 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
0012Z - DUKE-31 is cleared direct WICHITA
0202Z - CZAR-80  cleared direct LINCOLN, SALINA, WHITEMAN AFB
1526Z - LOBO-41 FLIGHT ingressing; push 13
1611Z - LOBO-41 FLIGHT cleared to FL 330; push 12
1956Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT (UNIFORM-16) climb & maintain FL 330
2001Z - LOBO-11 de CYCLONE-01 have you LC
2020Z - BULLDOG-01 checking in
2203Z - CZAR-85

343.700 (KZKC TOPEKA)
1437Z - FAST-13

285.400 (KZKC EMPORIA)
2206Z - CZAR-85
2208Z - FURY-36

323.150 (KZKC SEDALIA)
1936Z - CZAR-84

379.200 (KZKC GAGE)
0328Z - 3191 for LUMP-15

337.400 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
0058Z - REAPER-41, direct LIBERAL
2041Z - CZAR-85 FLIGHT

273.600 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
0201Z - CZAR-80 go 2966

269.500 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
2219Z - CZAR-85

319.100 (KZKC PONCA CITY)
0308Z - DUKE-11
0330Z - LUMP-15 checkin' in
0335Z - LUMP-14 FL 16000

360.850 (KZKC NORTHEAST KANSAS HIGH DISCRETE)
0126Z - CZAR-80 & DEATH-29

257.750 (KZKC SOUTHWEST KANSAS HIGH DISCRETE)
1813Z - FAST-61

327.000 (KZKC BUTLER)
2340Z - CZAR-85 down to 10000 & push 284.0

307.200 (KZMP HASTINGS)
0209Z - CZAR-80
1617Z - LOBO-41 FLIGHT (UNIFORM BUTTON-12) checking in FL 330, direct SOUIX
FALLS
2006Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT checking in

134.900 (KZKC SALINA)
1500Z - TURBO-32 pass HAWK-51 end-of-AR rqst
1603Z - 1193 for TURBO-32
1620Z - TURBO-32 FL 180000 direct KIAB
1704Z - BLUE-02 rqst McCONNELL after dropping RETRO FLIGHT @ HUTCHINSON, who
wants to go direct PANHANDLE (no joy finding this AR)
2229Z - JAYHAWK-33 & BISON MOA is a go for refueling w/ HAWK-31

133.925 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
0300Z - KANZA-47 direct KIAB
0300Z - COBRA-99 direct LNK, then 2 hours transition @ KOFF, return LNK &
back to KOFF for full stop
0301Z - VANDY-52

127.125 (KZKC NORTHEAST KANSAS HIGH DISCRETE)
1730Z - MAFIA-74 out of 330 for 2XX

134.350 (KZMP OMAHA)
0209Z - KANZA-47

135.100 (KZMP HASTINGS)
0143Z - de KANZA-47 & COBRA-99 is waiting on us to conduct AR

264.600 (134th AIR CONTROL SQDN; McCONNELL AFB: JAYHAWK CONTROL)
1858Z - CREEK-01 FLIGHT push VICTOR-12

236.800 (134th AIR CONTROL SQDN; McCONNELL AFB: JAYHAWK CONTROL)
1900Z - CREEK-03

353.900 (BISON / ADA MOA / ADOBE AR TRACK)
1914Z - BAT-33 de CYCLONE-01 (neg contact & switched to calling on 324.4)

324.400 (AR-653)
1445Z - TURBO-32 (600356)conduct AR OPNS w/ HAWK-51
Serial   Code   Type   CN   Unit   Status   First   Last   Comment
60-0356     KC-135R(RT)   18131   22nd ARW   act   oct94   oct02   grey, rep
92nd ARW bl jun03, 22nd ARW sep03
1918Z - BAT-33 conduct AR OPNS w/ CYCLONE-01 & CYCLONE-02
1924Z - BAT-33 conduct AR OPNS w/ BULLDOG-01 & BULLDOG-04
2246Z - JAYHAWK-33 conduct AR OPNS w/ HAWK-31

366.300 (AR-116)
0152Z - HUSKER-26 conduct AR OPNS w/ TUFF-19; 19 end-of-AR bottom of block
BUM 197/068

297.300 (PAWNEE-LAMONI AR TRACK PRIMARY)
0059Z - KANZA-49 de COBRA-99 (no joy);  KANZA-47 de COBRA-99
0148Z - KANZA-47 conduct AR OPNS w/ COBRA-99

283.900 (AR-309)
0129Z - KANZA-48 conduct AR OPNS w/ CZAR-80 & DEATH-29

260.200 (MULTIPLE AR SECONDARY)
0218Z - ______-49 conduct AR OPNS w/ TUFF-12

295.800 (AR-318)
1440Z - HAPPY-51 co-ordinating to conduct AR OPNS w/ TURBO-46.  46 is
expecting to recieve 50K of fuel, but 51 only has 5K to give.  Special
thanks were expressed to both scheduling sections from the crews involved.

305.500 (AR-330)
1622Z - WYLIE-32 conduct AR OPNS w/ CZAR-83 & CZAR-84

343.500 (AR-016)
1708Z - KANZA-51 co-ordinating w/ MAFIA-74 to conduct AR OPNS commencing @
1747Z.
MAFIA-74 can not go west on the AR track due to unidentified communication
committments.

149.350 (138th FW OKANG; TULSA, OKLAHOMA: VICTOR-12)
1858Z - CREEK-01 FLIGHT; CREEK-03 has stranger @ 9000

139.700 (114th FW SDANG; SOUIX FALLS, SOUTH DAKOTA: VICTOR-13)
1530Z - LOBO-41 & LOBO-42
2009Z - LOBO-11 & LOBO-12

138.200 (132nd FW IAANG; DES MOINES, IOWA: VICTOR-12)
1925Z - BULLDOG-01 FLIGHT

138.300 (132nd FW IAANG; DES MOINES, IOWA: VICTOR-13)
1850Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT

388.850 (509th BOMB WING; WHITEMAN AFB: A-2-A)
1902Z - CZAR-83 w/ CZAR-84

326.200 (KEND APP)
0312Z - DUKE-11 ILS 17
0340Z - LUMP-14 w/ information ZULU
0340Z - LUMP-15 leaving 13000 for 10000
2257Z - HYDRA-88 going to 7000

353.500 (KICT APP)
2144Z - DUKE-22, 269.1
2146Z - BALL-07

119.300 (KSLN TOWER)
1606Z - TURBO-32 rqst to do tactical approach
2034Z -  WOODCHUCK, is just coming into final (civilian? National Guard?
Aliens? I do not know)

257.700 (KSLN TOWER)
1947Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT

375.200 (KIAB METRO)
0206Z - TUFF-19 (multiple calls w/ no joy - being to sound like someone out
west :~)
0213Z - TUFF-19 (multiple calls w/ no joy)

255.400 (FLIGHT SERVICE)
1824Z - COLUMBUS RADIO de SENTRY-41, rqst forecast for TINKER @ ????Z.  Can
you provide temp & pressure?  OK thanks

301.600 (184th ARW KSANG; McCONNELL AFB: TWISTER OPNS)
2227Z - JAYHAWK-33 notifying OPNS of the problems he is having

311.000 (COMMAND POST)
0202Z - McCONNELL METRO de TUFF-19 (multiple calls w/ no joy)
0311Z - 40 for COBRA-99

370.100 (TACAMO)
1508Z (NFM) shrill high pitched tone
1518Z - voice under tone

368.250 (MID-CONUS TACAMO)
1519Z (NFM) garbled voice while tone continues on 370.1
1520Z - shrill high pitched tone

359.500 (NAOC)
1818Z (NFM) soft buzzing tone
1828Z - voice under tone

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From tag.ma.ultranet at rcn.com  Wed Jul 21 22:31:48 2004
From: tag.ma.ultranet at rcn.com (Tom Greenwood)
Date: Wed Jul 21 22:34:30 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HEADS UP S. NEW ENGLAND
In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20040721195336.02440f08@mail.strange.net>
Message-ID: <MABBKGIBGIAANNMINFLBCEMIEMAA.tag.ma.ultranet@rcn.com>

Anybody seen any signs of impending CAP's over the Boston area?  There's a
large party up here next week in need of a lot of bouncers!

Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of roadkill@strange.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 7:58 PM
To: milcom@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [MilCom] HEADS UP S. NEW ENGLAND


hey all long time no post...
huntress is up on 260.9  with cosmic #1 #2
playing intercept games


well back to my hole.....


adam
on the west bay in hot & steamy rhode island
ic-r10
sony icfsw7600g

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From jehaverlah at pdq.net  Wed Jul 21 22:52:57 2004
From: jehaverlah at pdq.net (Jeff Haverlah)
Date: Wed Jul 21 22:57:22 2004
Subject: [MilCom] MIL: 11244.0 - CORN MEAL
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20040721215049.00a2f1a0@mail.pdq.net>

0251z  22 Jul 04

      11244.0 was active at 0240z with CORN MEAL (fair levels here) bcsting 
a 28-character EAM (7DUMC5) and simulcasting same on at least 8992.0 (weak) 
with nothing heard on 13155.0 or 6697.0.

Jeff Haverlah

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jeff Haverlah               Coastal Texas           jehaverlah@pdq.net
      Drake R7 (Gilfer Mod)  Drake R8B               Ten-Tec RX320/GNRX320
      Panasonic RFB-65       JPS NIR-12/ANC-4        "wires" and loops
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

From jehaverlah at pdq.net  Wed Jul 21 23:09:29 2004
From: jehaverlah at pdq.net (Jeff Haverlah)
Date: Wed Jul 21 23:13:23 2004
Subject: [MilCom] MIL: 11244.0 - CORN MEAL
In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20040721215049.00a2f1a0@mail.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20040721220753.00a24890@mail.pdq.net>

At 09:52 PM 7/21/04 -0500, Jeff Haverlah wrote:


>0251z  22 Jul 04
>
>      11244.0 was active at 0240z with CORN MEAL (fair levels here) 
> bcsting a 28-character EAM (7DUMC5) and simulcasting same on at least 
> 8992.0 (weak) with nothing heard on 13155.0 or 6697.0.


      13155.0 was active at 0307z with CORN MEAL (fair but fading to 
weak/often unreadable) bcsting 7DUMC5 and simulcasting same on 11244.0 
(good but fading to fair), 8992.0 (weak/readable) and 6697.0 
(weak/readable).  H+07/h+37 activity.

Jeff Haverlah

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jeff Haverlah               Coastal Texas           jehaverlah@pdq.net
      Drake R7 (Gilfer Mod)  Drake R8B               Ten-Tec RX320/GNRX320
      Panasonic RFB-65       JPS NIR-12/ANC-4        "wires" and loops
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

From r_reining at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 21 23:26:19 2004
From: r_reining at yahoo.com (RICHARD REINING)
Date: Wed Jul 21 23:29:06 2004
Subject: [MilCom] logs Houston TX [NASA]
Message-ID: <20040722032619.17167.qmail@web13903.mail.yahoo.com>

     07/22/04   

126.050   0203Z   NASA 907 [T-38N] landing Ellington
                  Fld, TX

126.050   0245Z   NASA 955 [T-38N] landing Ellington
                  Fld, TX


=====
Richard Reining
Houston TX USA
radios
HF-JRC 545 / Drake R8B
VHF/UHF - Radio Shack 2035 / Bearcat 895
digital 
Universal M-7000 / RadioRaft


	
		
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From audiodave1 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 21 23:40:58 2004
From: audiodave1 at yahoo.com (David Howden)
Date: Wed Jul 21 23:43:41 2004
Subject: [MilCom] DE logs
Message-ID: <20040722034058.33975.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com>

Recent Delaware area logs


		
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From audiodave1 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 21 23:50:02 2004
From: audiodave1 at yahoo.com (David Howden)
Date: Wed Jul 21 23:52:48 2004
Subject: [MilCom] DE logs
Message-ID: <20040722035002.38389.qmail@web41510.mail.yahoo.com>

Recent Delaware area logs

 138.125 Smash A-A

 138.25 ACM's w/ Smash
 
 138.3 ACM's

 138.425 ACM's

 138.5 2 uid AC doing filming work

 142.3 Wardog, Seebee

 237.2 Kiowa range acm's w/ Balky, Flyer. Also Wardog.

 238.1 GK, Slam

 242.4 uid ac w FM comms

 255.0 GK, AR coord w/ Smash, Topcat (W107)Also
banger, bicep##.


 261.0 Zack 2, Scary 31

 284.9 Spook41, RTB Cherry Pt nas
 
 291.2 Darkstar P

 292.3 Darkstar, ACM's

 302.55 PAX base ops w/ Hook41

 312.3 Darkstar ACM's

 337.225 Darkstar, Banger, Smash in ACM's

 341.75 A-A AR coord w. Ethol and Reach##.
This seems to be the ar freq for MAC AC heading to
Europe. Just off the NJ coast.

 347.2 MDNG Raven ops w arr rpts

 363.8 Madhog, Maddog reporting "Off the range"

 378.2 Golie(?) 3 a/ AR ops

 385.5 Colt##

Dave



	
		
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From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Thu Jul 22 00:20:19 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Thu Jul 22 00:23:04 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/21/04
Message-ID: <d4.11dfafbd.2e309a83@aol.com>

An alright day here. Lots of T-38s.

NAVY 7B-504 (UC-12, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. (Return 
around 1445z)

HAWG-71 flight of 2 (F-16, AR-ANG, Ft. Smith), 370.875, lands Dobbins. 
(HAWG-71 departs around 1450z, Cleared to Navy Andrews (NSF). HAWG-72 departs around 
1455z, Cleared to Ft Smith (KFSM))

NAVY JS-266 (C-9, NAS Atlanta, #1266) 120.75>121.0>125.7, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared to Huntsville (KHSV). (Would return around 1500z, Later depart around 
2120z, Cleared to Chattanooga (KCHA), Return around 2210z)

COBB-50 flight of 3 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared to Augusta (KAGS). (Return around 1735z)

GATOR-11 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7>239.275, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared to Marine Beaufort (KNBC). (Return around 1730z)

COBB-88 (C-130) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart, Cleared to 
Chattanooga (KCHA).

GATOR-21 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7>284.7>360.75, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared to Navy Pensacola (KNPA).

POISON-77 (T-38, Columbus) 134.125, lands Dobbins.

POISON-61 (T-38, Columbus) 370.875, lands Dobbins. (Poison 61 later depart 
around 2125z as a flt of 3, Cleared to Spartanburg (SC) ### radial 045 mile 
fix.)

POISON-63 (T-38, Columbus) 370.875, lands Dobins.

POISON-62 (T-38, Columbus) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

POISON-78 (T-38, Columbus) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

POISON-71 (T-38, Columbus) 370.875, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart around 
2150z, as a flt of ?3?, Cleared to Spartanburg (SC) ###  radial 54 fix)

POISON-72 (T-38, Columbus) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

POISON-73 (T-38, Columbus) 370.875, lands Dobbins. 

DAWG-77 (C-130,GA-ANG, Savannah) 120.75, lands Dobbins.  (Would later depart 
around 2045z Cleared to Savannah (KSAV))

RED DOG-31 (UH-1, NAS Atlanta) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins. (Return later.)

COBB-30 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared Round Robin.
-------------------------------------
BACKY-91 (KC-135, Seymour-Johnson) w/ Dobbins Dispatch (372.2) asking them to 
contact RAZOR-81 (E-8, Robins) DSN 497-###-#### planned refuel on AR-328 cx 
due to IFF probs with BACKY, BACKY returning to New Orleans.
------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga
"VFA-203 Forever"
From dcassell at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 09:46:32 2004
From: dcassell at gmail.com (Damon Cassell)
Date: Thu Jul 22 09:49:26 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HEADS UP S. NEW ENGLAND
In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20040721195336.02440f08@mail.strange.net>
References: <6.0.1.1.2.20040721195336.02440f08@mail.strange.net>
Message-ID: <2979f9f4040722064658d27697@mail.gmail.com>

I heard these comms on 260.9, too. I am 20 miles north of Boston, on
the coast. They must have been close to me, because I am only using
the cheesy whip antenna on my scanner. Huntress, in particular, was
very, very loud.

Here are some other frequencies that were active, around the same time:

303.0000 - Combat Air Patrol refueling ops. Comms included discussion
about a landing gear issue with a party on the ground.
311.0000 - "Bangor Ops, we have low hydrolic pressure"
321.0000 - "Lobby (or Bobby?)  8-2"
349.3000 - Airlift Command (?) Lots of informal comms on this freq.

There has most certainly been an increase in milair comms this week.
With the convention a few days away, this is not a surprise. Should be
very interesting scanning when the convention is actually on.

Damon


On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:57:33 -0400, roadkill@strange.net
<roadkill@strange.net> wrote:
> hey all long time no post...
> huntress is up on 260.9  with cosmic #1 #2
> playing intercept games
> 
> well back to my hole.....
> 
> adam
> on the west bay in hot & steamy rhode island
> ic-r10
> sony icfsw7600g
> 
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From av8tor at flash.net  Thu Jul 22 09:38:55 2004
From: av8tor at flash.net (GeorgeF.)
Date: Thu Jul 22 10:01:12 2004
Subject: [MilCom] RE: [FedCom] 139.9 MHz
In-Reply-To: <000901c46f82$8b3d52a0$7f6040ce@nlci.com>
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040721092650.0dc7fde8@pop.flash.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040722093222.0de14a20@pop.flash.yahoo.com>


>  we are talking about are ILLEGAL operators
>who can and DO cause disruption, interference and
>even damage and potentially, death
> > >
> > >Duane
> > >WB9OMC
> >


Here's the problem as I see it.  To make it a requirement to physcally see 
a license before selling the radio is simply going to keep the radio out of 
a law abiding person.  Just like gun control, it keeps the product out of 
the hands of a law abiding citizen however criminals are still going to 
have access.

With radios, if people wanted to disrupt comms they don't have to go to a 
ham dealer to make their purchase....they can "Do eBay"....or even visit 
flea markets...or better yet look for ham who recently became silent keys 
and make offers to the remaining family members to buy the equipment.

But anyway the fact is we have laws on the book to prevent this, its 
already illegal to xmit without a license.  Lets enforce and the laws we 
already have, don't add more laws to a justice system which can't enforce 
what is already on the books.

George - Daytona Beach - KI4FIA
http://www.MilAirComms.com

From baycomm at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 22 12:56:20 2004
From: baycomm at earthlink.net (Greg Brazil)
Date: Thu Jul 22 12:58:23 2004
Subject: [MilCom] RE: [FedCom] 139.9 MHz
In-Reply-To: <000901c46f82$8b3d52a0$7f6040ce@nlci.com>
References: <000901c46f82$8b3d52a0$7f6040ce@nlci.com>
Message-ID: <40FFF1B4.7070102@earthlink.net>

 From the one that first posted the 139.9, you guys are going way 
overboard, please take it private as this is gotten way out of the 
normal Milcom posts.  Thanks.
Greg (SF Bay Area)

Duane Mantick wrote:

> There is a striking similarity in ONE sense - 
> the people we are talking about are ILLEGAL operators
> who can and DO cause disruption, interference and
> even damage and potentially, death (too many cases of idiots
> interfering with emergency vehicles, aircraft, etc.)
> by their irresponsible actions.
> 
> I agree that gun control is "using two hands" or as I
> usually say it, "hitting your target".  :-)  Nor am I
> a fan of gun control when it interferes with my 
> perception of the 2nd amendment being the right of 
> *law abiding citizens* to own and use and enjoy firearms.
> 
> RESPONSIBLY.  Key word.
> 
> The stereotype of the drunken hunter shooting everything
> BUT his target is all too real here in Indiana, I am
> sorry to say.
> 
> And, also unfortunately, the irresponsible use of radios
> that individuals are not legally licensed to use happens
> EVERYWHERE in the US.  Unlike bullets, radio waves have a
> considerably long range and the ability to adversely
> affect a much larger number of people.  Such people who
> apparently have nothing better to do with themselves
> than to get their jollies interfering with legitimate
> and where applicable, *licensed* radio users, at minimum
> interfere with multiple radio services and inconvenience
> hundreds or even thousands of people depending on the
> situation....and if one jackass with an illegal aviation
> radio would cause an aircraft to take the wrong action
> at the wrong time (and yes, it DOES get tried - if you
> examine FCC enforcement actions you will find records
> of people playing pseudo-air-traffic-controller) the
> cost could conceivably be hundreds of lives in one, stupid,
> arrogant, irresponsible action.
> 
> Do you think that terrorist cells in the US already might
> not try this?  Nobody thought anyone would fly an airplane
> into the WTC, either, unless it was an accident.  Disruption
> of communications is absolutely a viable terrorist tactic
> and not really much different than what we did to the 
> Iraqi military every time we attacked them.  Disrupt their
> communications to prevent as many of our own losses as
> possible.  Confuse and delay possible responses.
> 
> I think your reply was a knee-jerk reaction to what you
> felt was a hot-button issue, judging by your instant
> reference to the gun issue (AKA, the RKBA or Right to Keep
> and Bear Arms).  I can understand that, as a supporter 
> of the RKBA.
> 
> I also believe that *reasonable* steps taken to stop or
> reduce serious problems are NOT hostile acts but for those
> of us who "do radio" legally, positive and protective actions.
> I would think that as a licensed Amateur operator in spite of
> evidently limited experience as a Tech+ (according to
> QRZ.com, I went and looked up the callsign), you would
> appreciate the value of keeping illegal operations down
> if not out.
> 
> If you were operating as part of a severe weather net on
> the 2 meter band, trying perhaps to save some lives, what
> would you do if some unlicensed idiot with a 2 meter rig
> jammed your local repeater?  I'm bringing the point right
> home to where you live, George, because if you stay a ham
> as long as I have (30+ years) sooner or later you're going
> to run into this problem.  You can stick your head in the
> sand and be PART of the problem, or you can work towards
> being part of the solution.
> 
> One path says that you should return your license to the
> FCC and get out of radio.  The other path would make you
> welcomed into the broader Amateur community.  Take your
> choice.  It is time for us to work to put an end to 
> illegal radio operators, and to that end work WITH the
> FCC to help them do it, and not work against them.
> 
> Duane
> WB9OMC
> Amateur Extra Class
> seen too much crap on the air to "let it slide"
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net
>>[mailto:milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of GeorgeF.
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 8:28 AM
>>To: milcom@mailman.qth.net
>>Subject: RE: [MilCom] RE: [FedCom] 139.9 MHz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>I'm sure that the manufacturers would probably cringe at
>>>this thought and lobby against it - which would tell us
>>>which manufacturers to put some pressure on.  In this
>>>day and age of technology, why can't those companies
>>>stick a nifty little blocking algorithm into the radio's
>>>processor?  Then, the transmitter could not be activated
>>>(legally) without getting a license, and at that time
>>>you could download an "unlock key" and open up the
>>>transmitter.  Heck, they do that with software already.
>>>
>>>Duane
>>>WB9OMC
>>
>>
>>Sounds like "RadioControl" just like "GunControl".  Next we'll 
>>have to put 
>>"trigger locks" on our radios....And I think it would work about the 
>>same.....NOT...
>>
>>George - KI4FIA - Daytona Beach, FL
>>"Gun Control is using two hands"
>>http://www.MilAirComms.com
>>
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From jehaverlah at pdq.net  Thu Jul 22 15:29:01 2004
From: jehaverlah at pdq.net (Jeff Haverlah)
Date: Thu Jul 22 15:32:04 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 11244.0 
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20040722141823.00a2f3f0@mail.pdq.net>

1927z  22 Jul 04

      11244.0 was active at 1903z with (MILL___ or ?; fair levels with 
fading; decreasing "whine" on his audio) bcsting a 28-character EAM 
(7D3IU7) preceding OFFUTT's 1907z HFGCS bcst of same, and simulcasting same 
on 8992.0 (weak/fair), 6697.0 (weak) and 13155.0 (weak).

      The same freqs were active at 1925z with same.  H+25/h+55 activity.

Jeff Haverlah

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Jeff Haverlah               Coastal Texas           jehaverlah@pdq.net
      Drake R7 (Gilfer Mod)  Drake R8B               Ten-Tec RX320/GNRX320
      Panasonic RFB-65       JPS NIR-12/ANC-4        "wires" and loops
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From leeruarksr at isp.com  Thu Jul 22 16:38:48 2004
From: leeruarksr at isp.com (FLOYD L RUARK)
Date: Thu Jul 22 16:51:40 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Frequency Conversion Technique
Message-ID: <000701c4702b$e5237f70$8111e304@floydb3fea963p>

Jeff,
Can you please email me the procedure for conversion of freqs? I'm lost in
the dark!Hi Hi!
Best
Lee
Private answer probably best.


From webbfeat at 1s.net  Thu Jul 22 18:32:39 2004
From: webbfeat at 1s.net (Steve Douglass)
Date: Thu Jul 22 18:37:35 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HEADS UP: COAST GUARD INTERCEPTS BOAT
Message-ID: <p06002000bd25ef806122@[69.6.180.180]>

Just saw a breaking news report that the Coast Guard has intercepted 
a ship possibly containing a bomb in Philadelphia harbor.

Heads up East Coast monitors!

-Steve Douglass
-- 
"I have spent the majority of my life listening to shortwave radios 
and scanners, but the rest of it I've wasted."
From rfinder1 at verizon.net  Thu Jul 22 19:17:31 2004
From: rfinder1 at verizon.net (Ken)
Date: Thu Jul 22 19:20:24 2004
Subject: COMMENT-- SCANNER + CAMERA = TERRORIST!!??! Re: [MilCom] OFF-TOPIC -
	Photographers Say Police Harass Them
References: <000201c46e97$89015720$90cb2740@u5a3b0>
Message-ID: <012d01c47042$10d31d40$6501a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>

GG ....Thanks for the post.

Surely, now when one has a scanner, still or video camera, binoculars, &
note pad/pen they sure are going to meet the current critieria of suspicious
activities NO MATTER WHERE THEY ARE!!!.   Thow this into being next to the
military air base fence line and you've got the ingredients of a full
fledged security response.

Now I don't blame the security or law enforcement folks.. They've got their
orders that they have to follow and how do you really differentiate between
the good or bad guys without checking them out?

Also lets face it most of the security type jobs can be real boring most of
the times.  If someone comes next to or even at a relatively distance view
from the fence line, it's just kind of exciting for them to respond to this
anyways.  Also who wants to be responsible on "their watch" for letting a
potential terrorist get away?

... Some military airfields/airports allow plane watching, photographing, &
scanning without a problem... others you will get an immediate security
response...  Same applies to other transport type activies (railroads,
etc.).. Although I haven't seen any recent posts indicating folks are doing
any "on scene" milcom monitoring -- so perhaps most folks have either been
scared away by personal experience or something they read in the news media
or on the internet.

I guess to a certain extent as a country we've been taken over by paranoia..
To a certain extent terrorism has won -- Just look at the amount of
resources (money, people, & materials/equipment) that have thrown into
trying to prevent another attack!!.  You know I've got a business associate
who is even considering moving his family to an island in the Canadian
maritime provinces to get away from it all, so to speak!

Surely WE as harmless scanner nerds, relish the opportunity to be up close
to hear  & feel that jet blast/wind,  see the aircraft (e.g. the under belly
of a C5 on final approach at 100 feet!!!),, as well as listen to the radio
communications -- it's really been terrific... Sadly, I think that, unless
it's an authorized open house/air show most of these spontaneous adventures
are just not going to possible in the future...  Hopefully I'm wrong!!!  Too
bad there can't be some accommodation for us!

Ken
Springfield MA Monitoring Area

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "GG" <mystic@ikansas.com>
To: "Air Comms Southwest" <AirCommSouthwest@yahoogroups.com>; "MILCOM"
<milcom@mailman.qth.net>; "Reach Hunters" <Reach_Hunters@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:54 PM
Subject: [MilCom] OFF-TOPIC - Photographers Say Police Harass Them


> Remember, this could happen to you when you are taking pictures at the
> airport outside the fence or that train hauling circus equipment or that
> building you photographed so you could build it on that diorama for your
> model display.
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Photographers Say Police Harass Them
> By ELIZABETH M. GILLESPIE, AP
>
> SEATTLE (July 16) - Ian Spiers had just hours to finish an assignment for
> his photography class. He was taking shots of a railroad bridge near the
> Ballard Locks when an officer with a German shepherd approached him, asked
> him what he was doing and requested some ID.
> Later, he was questioned and photographed by a Homeland Security agent.
snip..snip....


From rfinder1 at verizon.net  Thu Jul 22 19:35:10 2004
From: rfinder1 at verizon.net (Ken)
Date: Thu Jul 22 19:38:06 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KCEF Air Show to Feature Tight Security
Message-ID: <013301c47044$87e14130$6501a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>

The Great New England Air Show will be held on August 14 & 15th, 2004,
Westover Joint Air Reserve Base, Chicopee Massachusetts.

Source:  'Springfield Republican'  'Chicopee Plus' insert.

*Westover's last airshow was held in August 2000.

*Visitors should NOT EXPECT the admittance to this year's air show to be the
same as it was four years ago.  The Sept 1, 2001 terror attacks on America
and the war on terror have changed all that.  Security will be far tighter
than ever before.  One of the air shows directors has stated "We can't be
cautious enough".

*Westover will have four gates open for entry into the show this year,
HOWEVER, there will be two large parking areas, both well away from the main
flight line (which basically means the area north of the runways 05/23 /
15/33 intersection.  Visitors will be able to take a shuttle bus OR walk to
one of the three entry control points.

At the entry control points there will be 100% inspection of all people
entering the flight line area.  In addition security cameras as well as
metal detectors, etc. will be in use.

Further security updates & prohibited items will be listed at the website
www.greaternewenglandairshow.com
see the flashing security icon.

Should be a great show!!!

Ken
Springfield MA Monitoring Area




From wb9omc at nlci.com  Thu Jul 22 19:50:19 2004
From: wb9omc at nlci.com (Duane Mantick)
Date: Thu Jul 22 19:51:20 2004
Subject: [MilCom] RE: [FedCom] 139.9 MHz
In-Reply-To: <40FFF1B4.7070102@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <001c01c47046$a5744a60$896040ce@nlci.com>

Greg, your timing is good as it has already gone
that way.

What burns my ass is that posts we put out here on this
subject of marginal interest to many of the readers have
no problem getting posted while stuff that many of us
try and post that are directly related get filtered
out as "SPAM".

Something seems a little bass-ackwards about that.

Duane


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Brazil [mailto:baycomm@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 11:56 AM
> To: Duane Mantick
> Cc: GeorgeF.; milcom@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [MilCom] RE: [FedCom] 139.9 MHz
> 
> 
>  From the one that first posted the 139.9, you guys are going way 
> overboard, please take it private as this is gotten way out of the 
> normal Milcom posts.  Thanks.
> Greg (SF Bay Area)
> 
<snip>
From AllanStern at aol.com  Thu Jul 22 21:20:31 2004
From: AllanStern at aol.com (AllanStern@aol.com)
Date: Thu Jul 22 21:23:33 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Viper 01 C-12
Message-ID: <1e.2efb148a.2e31c1df@aol.com>

     Did anyone up north, perhaps in the New Jersey area,  hear "Viper 01" 
today?  I'd love to know his destination.
By way of explanation, here is an excerpt from my log today:

VIPER 01: C-12.
9:00am: Departs Patrick to NASA Shuttle Landing Facility, returns.
11:00am: Departs area, to north.
[133.75, 132.65, 133.8, 128.55]
The acft remained here for about a week, departing for a short stint at KSC's 
SLF or Cape Canaveral AFS Skid Strip every morning.  He did not seem to 
associate with the DOS boys.  I never got close enough to see his numbers/markings 
or if he had RC-12 type antennae. He's gone home now, somewhere north of CHS 
according to his "Destination" routing. I got a sneaky feeling he RTBd to Ft 
Monmouth, as their C-12 come here occasionally for short testing stints.

AL STERN  Satellite Beach FL  (28-11N  80-36W) monitoring
 Patrick AFB (KCOF)       NASA-KSC Shuttle Landing Fac (KX68)
 Avon Park Bombing Range (KAGR)   Cape Canaveral AFS (KXMR)
 JSTARS E-8 Acft Integration Facility, Melbourne IAP (KMLB)
 Worldwide Military HF Communications
 Life Member: Missile, Space and Range Pioneers.
 http://hometown.aol.com/allanstern/myhomepage/index.html (My Freqs)
 http://hometown.aol.com/scanaddict/index.html (My Equipment)
From dehmmy at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 21:24:12 2004
From: dehmmy at gmail.com (dehm)
Date: Thu Jul 22 21:27:07 2004
Subject: [MilCom] RE: [FedCom] 139.9 MHz
In-Reply-To: <001c01c47046$a5744a60$896040ce@nlci.com>
References: <001c01c47046$a5744a60$896040ce@nlci.com>
Message-ID: <4061d8e30407221824251cae48@mail.gmail.com>

do i have to set up a filter to send all mail with 139.9 in it to trash? <grin>


On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:50:19 -0500, Duane Mantick <wb9omc@nlci.com> wrote:
> Greg, your timing is good as it has already gone
> that way.
> 
> What burns my ass is that posts we put out here on this
> subject of marginal interest to many of the readers have
> no problem getting posted while stuff that many of us
> try and post that are directly related get filtered
> out as "SPAM".
> 
> Something seems a little bass-ackwards about that.
> 
> Duane
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Greg Brazil [mailto:baycomm@earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 11:56 AM
> > To: Duane Mantick
> > Cc: GeorgeF.; milcom@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [MilCom] RE: [FedCom] 139.9 MHz
> >
> >
> >  From the one that first posted the 139.9, you guys are going way
> > overboard, please take it private as this is gotten way out of the
> > normal Milcom posts.  Thanks.
> > Greg (SF Bay Area)
> >
> <snip>
From w4tey at bellsouth.net  Thu Jul 22 21:49:38 2004
From: w4tey at bellsouth.net (Ed Yeary)
Date: Thu Jul 22 21:49:42 2004
Subject: COMMENT-- SCANNER + CAMERA = TERRORIST!!??! Re: [MilCom]
	OFF-TOPIC -Photographers Say Police Harass Them
References: <000201c46e97$89015720$90cb2740@u5a3b0>
	<012d01c47042$10d31d40$6501a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>
Message-ID: <002b01c47057$50561160$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com>

Just because you think you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get
you!  {: )
Ed Yeary W4TEY
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken" <rfinder1@verizon.net>
To: "GG" <mystic@ikansas.com>; "MILCOM" <milcom@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 7:17 PM
Subject: COMMENT-- SCANNER + CAMERA = TERRORIST!!??! Re: [MilCom]
OFF-TOPIC -Photographers Say Police Harass Them


> GG ....Thanks for the post.
>
> Surely, now when one has a scanner, still or video camera, binoculars, &
> note pad/pen they sure are going to meet the current critieria of
suspicious
> activities NO MATTER WHERE THEY ARE!!!.   Thow this into being next to the
> military air base fence line and you've got the ingredients of a full
> fledged security response.
>
> Now I don't blame the security or law enforcement folks.. They've got
their
> orders that they have to follow and how do you really differentiate
between
> the good or bad guys without checking them out?
>
> Also lets face it most of the security type jobs can be real boring most
of
> the times.  If someone comes next to or even at a relatively distance view
> from the fence line, it's just kind of exciting for them to respond to
this
> anyways.  Also who wants to be responsible on "their watch" for letting a
> potential terrorist get away?
>
> ... Some military airfields/airports allow plane watching, photographing,
&
> scanning without a problem... others you will get an immediate security
> response...  Same applies to other transport type activies (railroads,
> etc.).. Although I haven't seen any recent posts indicating folks are
doing
> any "on scene" milcom monitoring -- so perhaps most folks have either been
> scared away by personal experience or something they read in the news
media
> or on the internet.
>
> I guess to a certain extent as a country we've been taken over by
paranoia..
> To a certain extent terrorism has won -- Just look at the amount of
> resources (money, people, & materials/equipment) that have thrown into
> trying to prevent another attack!!.  You know I've got a business
associate
> who is even considering moving his family to an island in the Canadian
> maritime provinces to get away from it all, so to speak!
>
> Surely WE as harmless scanner nerds, relish the opportunity to be up close
> to hear  & feel that jet blast/wind,  see the aircraft (e.g. the under
belly
> of a C5 on final approach at 100 feet!!!),, as well as listen to the radio
> communications -- it's really been terrific... Sadly, I think that, unless
> it's an authorized open house/air show most of these spontaneous
adventures
> are just not going to possible in the future...  Hopefully I'm wrong!!!
Too
> bad there can't be some accommodation for us!
>
> Ken
> Springfield MA Monitoring Area
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "GG" <mystic@ikansas.com>
> To: "Air Comms Southwest" <AirCommSouthwest@yahoogroups.com>; "MILCOM"
> <milcom@mailman.qth.net>; "Reach Hunters" <Reach_Hunters@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:54 PM
> Subject: [MilCom] OFF-TOPIC - Photographers Say Police Harass Them
>
>
> > Remember, this could happen to you when you are taking pictures at the
> > airport outside the fence or that train hauling circus equipment or that
> > building you photographed so you could build it on that diorama for your
> > model display.
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> > Photographers Say Police Harass Them
> > By ELIZABETH M. GILLESPIE, AP
> >
> > SEATTLE (July 16) - Ian Spiers had just hours to finish an assignment
for
> > his photography class. He was taking shots of a railroad bridge near the
> > Ballard Locks when an officer with a German shepherd approached him,
asked
> > him what he was doing and requested some ID.
> > Later, he was questioned and photographed by a Homeland Security agent.
> snip..snip....
>
>
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From mystic at ikansas.com  Thu Jul 22 20:29:10 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Thu Jul 22 22:11:17 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	22 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <007b01c47059$c429f1e0$b4cb2740@u5a3b0>

316.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE PRIMARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
0002Z - HAWK-42 playtime in the playground w/ ALMIGHTY
0028Z - HAWK-51 shows up to share playground w/ 42 & work w/ ALMIGHTY
0105Z - HAWK-61 de WIZARD, & will be hot in 30 seconds.  CAS callsign is
ALMIGHTY (highly unusual to here the ground transmitter -- must be result of
weather we having)
1215Z - DARK-11 & DARK-12 playing w/ ANTIDOTE
1227Z - DARK-11 w/ DARK-31
1325Z - DARK-51 plays w/ ANTIDOTE
1435Z - TOPCAT-43 wants to play w/ anyone available
1540Z - SMOKY de LOBO-32, we are about 7 minutes late & can you call back to
LOBO OPNS see if our field is still under CODE-1 CONDITION.
1612Z - SMOKY de BORG-01, checking in.  Rg 304.9
1620Z - BORG-01 FLIGHT cleared on to play w/ ANTIDOTE
1713Z - SMOKY de CZAR-83, rqst permission to enter into BISON early as we
understand JAYLO FLIGHT is only working in the restricted area & there is
another 2 ship formation scheduled for 1830Z.  CZAR-83 FLIGHT 304.9
1714Z - JAYLO-01 & JAYLO-02 w/ ANTIDOTE
1737Z - CZAR-83 & DEATH-44 playing on playground
1903Z - CZAR-81 & FURY-42 take their turn on playground

304.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE SECONDARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
1314Z - DARK-31 playing w/ ANTIDOTE
1357Z - DARK-51 continues play period w/ ANTIDOTE
1447Z - WIZARD de TOPCAT-43, rqst ROMEO-02 scenario
1530Z - TOPCAT-43 is bearing 024 @ 107 NM & rqst ROMEO-XX scenario
1612Z - BORG-01 FLIGHT
1718Z - CZAR-83 repeats 1713Z transmission
1727Z - CZAR-83 FLIGHT go TAD-69 COMM-01.  Check COMM-01.

363.200 (KZKC SALINA)
1257Z - DARK-12 @ FL 210 direct HAYS, direct DYESS
1326Z - DARK-31 enroute to AR w/ TURBO-33
1420Z - DARK-51 slinking over to AR w/ TURBO-33
1459Z - DARK-51 FL 19.5, climbing to 2XX direct LIBERAL
1538Z - LOBO-31 FLIGHT
1621Z - LOBO-31 FLIGHT RTB SOUIX FALLS
1816Z - CZAR-83 FLIGHT will be exiting R-3601 in about 10 minutes; rqst
direct WHITEMAN
1933Z - FURY-42

296.600 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
0039Z - CZAR-72 contact KZDV on 288.05 (no joy on hearing 288.05)
1534Z - LOBO-31 FLIGHT
2006Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT checking in; in the BLOCK 290 - 310; Rqst 8000

270.250 (KZKC EMPORIA)
1716Z - BORG-01 FLIGHT

323.200 (KZKC EMPORIA)
1722Z - CZAR-83
1743Z - JAYLO-01 FLIGHT, direct WHITEMAN

337.400 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
0100Z - HAWK-51 cleared to 18000

306.200 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
0216Z - BALL-22

307.200 (KZMP HASTINGS)
1624Z - LOBO-31 FLIGHT checking in

132.250 (KZKC EMPORIA)
1846Z - VANDY-08 & VANDY-40 checking in FL 260

149.525 (442nd FW; WHITEMAN AFB: VICTOR-17)
1557Z - BORG-01 w/ BORG-02

337.750 (7th BOMB WING; DYESS AFB; A-2-A)
0100Z - HAWK-51 w/ HAWK-61
1319Z - DARK-31 w/ DARK-32

138.250 (114th FW SDANG; SOUIX FALLS, SOUTH DAKOTA: VICTOR-??)
1527Z - LOBO-31 w/ LOBO-32

139.700 (114th FW SDANG; SOUIX FALLS, SOUTH DAKOTA: VICTOR-13)
2007Z - LOBO-11 w/ LOBO-12

149.100 (442nd FW; WHITEMAN AFB: VICTOR-??)
1728Z - JAYLO-01 w/ JAYLO-02

388.850 (509th BOMB WING; WHITEMAN AFB: A-2-A)
1809Z - CZAR-83 w/ DEATH-44; CZAR-83 FLIGHT, go 363.2 prime
1909Z - CZAR-81 w/ FURY-42
1959Z - FURY-42 w/ CZAR-82

381.300 (509th BOMB WING; WHITEMAN AFB: BUTTON-09 AUX)
1945Z - MADDOG de FURY-42
1959Z - FURY-42 w/ CZAR-81 w/ CZAR-82

228.250 (AR-400)
0216Z - GASSER-30 (sounded like)

324.400 (AR-653)
1228Z - TURBO-33 conduct AR OPNS w/ DARK-12
1329Z - TURBO-33 conduct AR OPNS w/ DARK-31 (86123) & DARK-32 (85073)
1419Z - TURBO-33 (610292) conduct AR OPNS w/ DARK-51

305.500 (AR-330)
1256Z - TURBO-75 conduct AR OPNS w/ TURBO-76
1702Z - BAT-41 conduct AR OPNS w/ FURY-42

326.200 (KEND APP)
0219Z - DUKE-22
1459Z - HYDRA-01

286.500 (190th ARW KSANG; FORBES FIELD: WYLIE CONTROL)
1929Z - WYLIE-42

311.000 (COMMAND POST)
1956Z - ______ de VIKING-44, C-130 fm Minneapolis ARS (he provides info)
rqst pp relay to DSN 783-????.  Msg is: Our ETA is 1600 hrs local or 2100Z

370.100 (TACAMO)
1547Z - (NFM) modem
1618Z - (NFM) modem continues w/ voice under it

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Thu Jul 22 23:21:48 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Thu Jul 22 23:24:45 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 22 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <1e8.25c0c0ad.2e31de4c@aol.com>

Not quite as active today. Probably too many severe t-storms in the area.

275.80:  REDEYE-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out for 2 sorties 
to Cheyenne MOA.
275.80:  STUD-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out on VR-413.
121.60:  REACH 5902, (C-130, Little Rock), cleared to Kirtland.
121.60:  SCOUT-21, (E-3, Tinker), cleared round-robin Buckley.
364.20:  THUMPER, (E-3, Tinker, aka SCOUT-21), signal checks with DEERHUNTER.
319.00:  CAJUN-90, (A-10, New Orleans), with Denver Center, FL 270. Trying to 
find altitudes and routings to keep him out of the t-storms.
275.80:  STUD-21, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared to Airburst Range.
372.20:  JOSA-409, (C-21A), takeoff Colorado Springs.
349.20:  70012, (C-141, McGuire), request WX Travis, 2140Z. ((Never called 
himself REACH, EVAC or anything other than 70012, but believe on past history he 
was EVAC 70012))
349.20:  ASCOT-6607, (?C-130J, Lyneham?), requesting WX Minneapolis.
372.20:  JOSA-879, (C-21A), land Colorado Springs.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Thu Jul 22 23:21:46 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Thu Jul 22 23:24:47 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 21 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <1d7.26a069be.2e31de4a@aol.com>

A fairly busy Wednesday.

291.675: TACO-91, (F-16, NM-ANG), land; then on to Kirtland.
121.00:  NASA-907, (T-38N, Ellington), land. 
121.60:  SCOUT-20, (E-3, Tinker), cleared round-robin Buckley
291.675: LOBO-81, (F-16, SD-ANG), land; then on to Edwards.
364.20:  THUMPER, (E-3, aka SCOUT-20), doing signal checks with DEERHUNTER.
291.675: ROMAN-11, flight of 2, (F/A-18, VFA-106, Oceana), land; then on to 
Springfield.
275.80:  REDEYE-21, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out on VR-413.
275.80:  STUD-21, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out for 2 sorties to 
Airburst Range.
372.20:  JOSA-799, (C-21A), takeoff Colorado Springs.
372.20:  SMOKY-52, (C-21A, Peterson), takeoff Colorado Springs.
291.675: MALLARD-1, flight of 2, (F-16, Luke), land; then on to Luke.
275.80:  REDEYE-31, (F-16, Buckley), cleared Cheyenne MOA.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From r_reining at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 23 00:01:01 2004
From: r_reining at yahoo.com (RICHARD REINING)
Date: Fri Jul 23 00:03:56 2004
Subject: [MilCom] logs Houston TX [NASA]
Message-ID: <20040723040101.8452.qmail@web13904.mail.yahoo.com>

     07/23/04

126.050   0028Z   NASA 904 [T-38N] landing Ellington
                  Fld, TX

126.050   0302Z   NASA 912 [T-38N] landing Ellington
                  Fld, TX


=====
Richard Reining
Houston TX USA
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From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Fri Jul 23 00:05:20 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul 23 00:08:18 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/22/04
Message-ID: <fb.5c5823f1.2e31e880@aol.com>

Monitored off & on today, Here is what I caught when I did.

COBB-50 flight of ?2? (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. (Return 
later.)

GATOR-71 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7>254.35, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared 
to Marine Beaufort (KNBC).

COBB-04 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

COBB-28 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

NAVY JS-080 (C-9, NAS Atlanta) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

RED DOG-31 (UH-1, NAS Atlanta) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins (Working Pattern for 
about 2hrs then back in, 1815z)

GATOR-99 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7>284.7, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared 
to Marine Beaufort (KNBC). (Return around 2015z)

JOLLY-51 (HH-60, Moody) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

PAT-795 (??) 134.125, lands Dobbins.

TALON-28 (T-45, NAS Meridian) 346.8, lands Dobbins.

NAVY LT-622 (P-3, NAS Jacksonville) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later 
depart around 1945z, Cleared to Navy Jacksonville (KNIP))

TALON-50 (T-45, NAS Meridian) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

COBRA-20 (EA-6, NAF Washington) 370.875>268.7>284.7, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared 
to Navy Andrews/Washington (NSF).

GATOR-51 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875, lands Dobbins.
-----------------------------------
PAT-747 (??) w/ ?? Dispatch (372.2) 30mins out,A5.
------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga
From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Fri Jul 23 01:06:47 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Fri Jul 23 01:09:46 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Seattle Milcom JULY 22
Message-ID: <41009CE7.9090200@verizon.net>

McChord AFB arrivals 124.8 Tower, 349.4 CP

DANDA 97
REACH 2109
HUSKY 23

NAS Whidbey arrivals 270.8 Appr Ctl

SKYBOLT 3
HOBO 51 and 52

Misc

349.4 McChord CP. COUNT 81 looking for current message traffic, in 
receipt of 7DWCCN
337.3 TSC Whidbey. PRIMETIME 803 ops normal

HF 6761.0

JEST 15, 16. 15 is AR complete with JUMBO 55


Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA
Northwest Aircraft Communications
http://microvoltradio.com/

From larry at grove-ent.com  Fri Jul 23 09:21:29 2004
From: larry at grove-ent.com (Larry Van Horn)
Date: Fri Jul 23 09:24:36 2004
Subject: COMMENT-- SCANNER + CAMERA = TERRORIST!!??! Re: [MilCom]
	OFF-TOPIC -Photographers Say Police Harass Them
In-Reply-To: <012d01c47042$10d31d40$6501a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>
Message-ID: <000a01c470b7$f9df65f0$8301a8c0@groveent.com>

As one who served in military security unit during one of my shore duty
tours, let me boil this down in some real simple terms. 
If someone was hanging around the fence at your house with a scanner,
still or video camera, binoculars, & note pad/pen, what would you do. I
would call the cops! 
That base is the work place and in many cases home of the military
assigned to it.

The smart person would go to the security office and ask in person to
watch, photograph and listen to the aircraft. If the answer is no go on
and accept it. Slinking around the fence line would like suspicious at
my house and it surely does at a military installation.

Just remember it is much easier to ask for permission than for
forgiveness. 

Now can we please drop this nonsense. This topic crops up way to often
on this list and no matter how it is phrased, the answer will always
remain the same. We live in different times and procedures are different
and that is reality. We are going to learn to adapt or take up another
hobby. Now it is time to return this channel to its normal traffic
please.

Ya'll have fun out there and be careful

Larry Van Horn, N5FPW USN (Ret)
Milcom Newsgroup Founding Father
Monitoring Times Assistant Editor and Milcom Columnist
WUN Military/Government Newsletter Columnist
Grove Enterprises Technical Support Department
Telephone: V-828-837-9200/F-828-837-2216/800-438-8155


From sdaitch at ibb.gov  Fri Jul 23 09:47:49 2004
From: sdaitch at ibb.gov (Sheldon Daitch)
Date: Fri Jul 23 09:50:50 2004
Subject: COMMENT-- SCANNER + CAMERA = TERRORIST!!??! Re: [MilCom]	
	OFF-TOPIC-Photographers Say Police Harass Them
References: <000a01c470b7$f9df65f0$8301a8c0@groveent.com>
Message-ID: <41011705.3FE5D833@ibb.gov>

The current issue of Railfan and Railroad has an editorial on this
very issue, as it pertains to photography of railroads.

But the writer has an interesting observation on this, though, that in
general, the railfan audience is quite knowledgeable about
railroad operations and activities, and presents an opportunity
to be an extra set of eyes for the railroad, both in terms of
security of rail facilities and safety of moving equipment.

But as for your thought on permission vs forgiveness, I always thought
it was the opposite.  Easier to get forgiveness than permission.

But I do agree with you, it is a different day and time.

73
Sheldon
WA4MZZ



Larry Van Horn wrote:

>
> The smart person would go to the security office and ask in person to
> watch, photograph and listen to the aircraft. If the answer is no go on
> and accept it. Slinking around the fence line would like suspicious at
> my house and it surely does at a military installation.
>
> Just remember it is much easier to ask for permission than for
> forgiveness.
>
>
>
> Ya'll have fun out there and be careful
>
> Larry Van Horn, N5FPW USN (Ret)
>
> Telephone: V-828-837-9200/F-828-837-2216/800-438-8155
>
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From wejones at megalink.net  Fri Jul 23 10:37:33 2004
From: wejones at megalink.net (Bill Jones)
Date: Fri Jul 23 10:36:51 2004
Subject: COMMENT-- SCANNER + CAMERA = TERRORIST!!??! Re:
	[MilCom]	OFF-TOPIC -Photographers Say Police Harass Them
In-Reply-To: <000a01c470b7$f9df65f0$8301a8c0@groveent.com>
References: <012d01c47042$10d31d40$6501a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>
Message-ID: <4100EA6D.7975.A8DABB@localhost>

 
> As one who served in military security unit during one of my shore duty
> tours, let me boil this down in some real simple terms. 
> If someone was hanging around the fence at your house with a scanner,
> still or video camera, binoculars, & note pad/pen, what would you do. I
> would call the cops!

As someone who used to work on a high security base (ie double fences with 
razor wire and deadly force authorized), I understand what you are saying. One 
time in fact I called the MPs because someone was taking pictures of the 
building I worked in, despite signs saying that this wasn't permitted (this was 
pre-9/11).  Turns out that after the MPs surrounded the guy and questioned him, 
he turned out to be a co-worker that I didn't know at the time.  I was a bit 
embarrased for turning in a co-worker, but I was convinced that I did the right 
thing. 

> The smart person would go to the security office and ask in person to
> watch, photograph and listen to the aircraft. If the answer is no go on
> and accept it. Slinking around the fence line would like suspicious at
> my house and it surely does at a military installation.
> 
> Just remember it is much easier to ask for permission than for
> forgiveness. 

This makes sense, however it isn't realistic.  Pre 9/11, when many bases were 
open to the public, you could go to the security offices, but now, you can't 
even get on base to go to the security office, and neither can you get through 
by email.  I have tried to ask for such permission via email, ie through the 
public affairs people, asking if there was any place where the public could go 
to get a view of planes taking off, and although my email was answered, my 
question was not answered, so I was left with the task of finding a suitable  
place off base to watch by myself, although my choice of locations apparently 
wasn't suitable to the authorities.  :-) 
    What you suggest above, would seem to be an ideal solution to the 
situation, if the military bases would make it possible.  Ie, if they would 
designate areas where hobbiests could go, then people could do as you suggest, 
and they would know who those people with the cameras and scanners were, plus 
they would have an extra layer of security, because the scanner enthusiasts 
would most likely report anyone acting suspicious, helping their efforts.  But 
as the situations exists now, hobbiests don't have any guidance for what they 
are permitted to do, and where they can do it.
 
> Now can we please drop this nonsense. This topic crops up way to often
> on this list and no matter how it is phrased, the answer will always
> remain the same. We live in different times and procedures are different
> and that is reality. We are going to learn to adapt or take up another
> hobby. Now it is time to return this channel to its normal traffic
> please.

  I don't agree that it is nonsense.  From what I have read of this thread, I 
don't think that this discussion was at all off base.  I don't think it was 
critical of the security measures, and it was realistic about us living in 
"different times", and was pretty much just a heads up that since we are living 
in different times, that we have to learn to "adapt" as you say. Ie rather than 
having people who have never tried monitoring or taking pictures near potential 
targets just assuming that they can do this and going in and making the 
security people nervous, I think it is fair to warn them that they should 
consider that what they are doing might be taken as being suspicious.
   I know that there is a bit of paranoia these days associated with our hobby, 
some of it justified, some not.  I know that once I was monitoring and taking 
pictures of low flying planes from my own back yard, when the plane I was 
photographing turned back, circled,  and made several passes over my location, 
while telling ATC that he was "looking for the guy" but couldn't find him.  I 
was convinced that they were looking for me. Turns out that they were looking 
for a small private plane that had drifted across the border into Canada, then 
re-entered the states in a manner that was suspicious, and they called the 
planes I was watching to look for the private plane. So my paranoia that day 
wasn't justified, but other times it has been justified.
    Anyway, it is unfortunate that it has come to a situation where the people 
who are the biggest supporters of the military are unfortunately at the top of 
the list for making the military nervous, and visa-versa.  It would be nice if 
there could be some degree of communication enabled between the military and 
the hobbiests, because I think it could be beneficial to both.  

   
 
 



-- 
Bill Jones   Sweden, Maine wejones at megalink dot net
http://www.megalink.net/~wejones
http://www.megalink.net/~wejones/wwii.html 
-- 

From Rapbep at aol.com  Fri Jul 23 10:33:59 2004
From: Rapbep at aol.com (Rapbep@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul 23 10:37:12 2004
Subject: [MilCom] DC Area Logs, 23 Jul 04
Message-ID: <53.1143c07c.2e327bd7@aol.com>

 Logs from a few hours (0745-1030 EDT) of intermittent listening

1. ANDREWS AFB (KADW): 
[Tower (118.4/349.0); CP (141.55;378.1); PTD (122.85; 372.2): Potomac 
TRACON/Reagan National APP/DEP(119.3;335.5;124.2;118.95;119.85;125.65)] 

HOME BASED:

Navy 375 (C-12, AOD)- depart
SAM 93 (99th AS)- depart.
Bully flight (3 X F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG)- depart.
Angel 11 flight (2 X F-18s, VMFA-321)- on sqdn freq (243.6) w/BFM training.

VISITORS :

JOSA 317- depart
Reach 1816( id as heavy)- land

2. PATUXENT RIVER NAS (KNHK):
[NTPS-Test Pilot School; NSATS (VX-23)-Strike Aircraft Test Squadron; NFATS 
(VX-20)-Force Aircraft Test Squadron-;NRWATS (HX-21)-Rotary Wing Aircraft Test 
Squadron- 119.275; 120.05; 123.7; 127.95; 256.5; 270.8; 281.8; 354.8]

Tester 443 (NP-3D, NTPS)- w/Tester 37 (C-12, NTPS-British pilot) working 
w/Bay Watch (256.5)
Colt flight (4 X A-10s, 104th FS)-w/Bay Watch (270.8) for entry into area 
R-6609.
Angel 11 flight (2 X F-18s, VMFA-321)-w/approach (305.2) for entry into 
restricted areas.
Tester 25 (T-2C, NTPS)- w/Bay Watch (354.8)

3. Martin State Airport (KMTN):
104th Fighter Sqdn MD ANG; 135th Airlift Sqdn MD ANG-Tower (121.3/297.2); 
Raven Ops (143.8/347.2); Crab Ops (385.9)

Colt flight (4 X A-10s, 104th FS)- w/Raven Ops (347.2) w/PIREP over the 
Chesapeake Bay.

5. MISCELLANEOUS:

NASA 3 (N3NA-Gulfstream,MARSHALL SPACE CTR)- land at Reagan National


RON
MARYLAND, USA
PRO-2045 W/D-130J DISCONE
From milcom at ovillatx.sytes.net  Fri Jul 23 10:56:45 2004
From: milcom at ovillatx.sytes.net (lrk)
Date: Fri Jul 23 11:00:13 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Re: COMMENT-- SCANNER + CAMERA = TERRORIST!!??!
In-Reply-To: <41011705.3FE5D833@ibb.gov>
References: <000a01c470b7$f9df65f0$8301a8c0@groveent.com>
	<41011705.3FE5D833@ibb.gov>
Message-ID: <20040723145645.GA247@ovillatx.sytes.net>

On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 09:47:49AM -0400, Sheldon Daitch wrote:
> 
> But the writer has an interesting observation on this, though, that in
> general, the railfan audience is quite knowledgeable about
> railroad operations and activities, and presents an opportunity
> to be an extra set of eyes for the railroad, both in terms of
> security of rail facilities and safety of moving equipment.

Unfortunately, most law enforcement people fail to understand that the
information they need to prevent attacks is known to the freinds, not the
enemies, of the potential attackers. By alienating the very people who
would be helpful, they deny themselves critical information.

It is a battle of wits and our government is not well armed.

 
> But as for your thought on permission vs forgiveness, I always thought
> it was the opposite.  Easier to get forgiveness than permission.

True. And the quote is from a famous Navy person.

 
> But I do agree with you, it is a different day and time.

I want my freedom back. I'm not nearly as afraid of terrorists as I am of
low-IQ government people.


-- 
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| 73,            E-mail       | milcom@ovillatx.sytes.net               |
| Lyn Kennedy                 |                                         |
| K5QWB          ICBM         | 32.5 North 96.9 West                    |
---Livin' on an information dirt road a few miles off the superhighway---
From sdaitch at ibb.gov  Fri Jul 23 11:13:36 2004
From: sdaitch at ibb.gov (Sheldon Daitch)
Date: Fri Jul 23 11:16:37 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Re: COMMENT-- SCANNER + CAMERA = TERRORIST!!??!
References: <000a01c470b7$f9df65f0$8301a8c0@groveent.com>
	<41011705.3FE5D833@ibb.gov> <20040723145645.GA247@ovillatx.sytes.net>
Message-ID: <41012B20.C15F1EF6@ibb.gov>

I think I'd be afraid of all low-IQ people, not just those in
the guv'mint.

Sheldon


>
>
>
> I want my freedom back. I'm not nearly as afraid of terrorists as I am of
> low-IQ government people.
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> | 73,            E-mail       | milcom@ovillatx.sytes.net               |
> | Lyn Kennedy                 |                                         |
> | K5QWB          ICBM         | 32.5 North 96.9 West                    |
> ---Livin' on an information dirt road a few miles off the superhighway---
> _

From jehaverlah at pdq.net  Fri Jul 23 15:42:04 2004
From: jehaverlah at pdq.net (Jeff Haverlah)
Date: Fri Jul 23 15:45:35 2004
Subject: [MilCom] MIL: 8992.0 - NEWSROOM
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20040723144014.00a28ee0@mail.pdq.net>

2040z  23 Jul 04

      8992.0 was active at 2033z with NEWSROOM (good/fair levels here; 
excellent audio; noisy background; suspected NAOC) bcsting a 28-character 
EAM (7DQXUQ) and simulcasting same on 11244.0 (fair).

Jeff Haverlah

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Jeff Haverlah               Coastal Texas           jehaverlah@pdq.net
      Drake R7 (Gilfer Mod)  Drake R8B               Ten-Tec RX320/GNRX320
      Panasonic RFB-65       JPS NIR-12/ANC-4        "wires" and loops
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

From paratrooper202 at earthlink.net  Fri Jul 23 15:56:00 2004
From: paratrooper202 at earthlink.net (Christopher  Corley)
Date: Fri Jul 23 15:58:59 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 12m0530
Message-ID: <009501c470ef$14ebaa20$287a9a04@computer>

Chris Corley

 http://foia.state.gov/masterdocs/12fam/12m0530.pdf
From sdaitch at ibb.gov  Fri Jul 23 16:17:39 2004
From: sdaitch at ibb.gov (Sheldon Daitch)
Date: Fri Jul 23 16:20:41 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 12m0530
References: <009501c470ef$14ebaa20$287a9a04@computer>
Message-ID: <41017263.E18FDCB0@ibb.gov>

While the FAM may mirror law, it is not law and applies
only to the foreign affairs agencies mentioned at the first
of each section. (FAM - Foreign Affairs Manual)

OPIC I think is Overseas Private Investment Corporation
I don't know who TDP is.
AID is US Agency for International Development
State is, of course, DOS.

I see we got an honorable mention in 12FAM531h.


73
Sheldon
WA4MZZ

Christopher Corley wrote:

> Chris Corley
>
>  http://foia.state.gov/masterdocs/12fam/12m0530.pdf
>
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From paratrooper202 at earthlink.net  Fri Jul 23 16:26:26 2004
From: paratrooper202 at earthlink.net (Christopher  Corley)
Date: Fri Jul 23 16:29:28 2004
Subject: [MilCom] International Topics and Issues
Message-ID: <00f801c470f3$5543ff60$287a9a04@computer>

CHRIS CORLEY

 http://www.state.gov/interntl/
From rfinder1 at verizon.net  Fri Jul 23 20:27:06 2004
From: rfinder1 at verizon.net (Ken)
Date: Fri Jul 23 20:30:09 2004
Subject: 'On Scene" Alternatives for the Hobbyists??!!Re: COMMENT-- SCANNER +
	CAMERA = TERRORIST!!??! Re: [MilCom]OFF-TOPIC -Photographers
	Say Police Harass Them
References: <000a01c470b7$f9df65f0$8301a8c0@groveent.com>
Message-ID: <01ef01c47114$f37a9c40$6401a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>

Hello Larry & the group!!!!

I'm glad to see that we've had somewhat of a good debate/discussion on this
subject -- Times have changed and adaption to these changes needs to be met!

Larry does bring up some good points about security reacting to what they
see/observe versus (what I see as) more serious potential threats that they
can't see -- because it isn't on the fence line!!!).  I've personally  had
one 'minor' incident 'outside the fence line' (post 9/11) (trying out my
first new digital camera) ... So I know at my local joint military/civilian
air base/airport that I can't go right to the fence line and have some hobby
type fun, listening, watching, & taking pictures!!!

So hobbyists have to look for some alternatives to "on scene", perhaps
better termed "near scene"!!!, so that you aren't seen by security as a
threat and thus can experience some of the joy of being close to the action
without being the subject of a security response.  However, there still are
some risks to doing this because of the public's perception of seeing
someone who looks out of the ordinary --and folks with scanners meet that
criteria, perhaps with the exception of being at a NASCAR events or base
open house/air show!!

Sometimes there might be a public parking area or public recreational parks
on some of the approach zones to runways in use, and you will be close
enough to monitor the aircraft & ground radio transmissions as well as get a
good to excellent view of the aircraft to take still pictures or video.
There also might be other areas (e.g. industrial areas/warehouse areas) that
allow public access and you will be also be close enough.  Additionally, you
might be forturnate enough to live right on the runways approach/departure
zones (I still can't figure out how anyone would build a  new $200K+  house
on an approach/departure zone with jets rumbling overhead them (even the
military doesn't put it's family/single housing on approach/departure zones
to the runways!!!), or furthermore, adjacent (parallel/perpendicular)  to
the approach/take off zones, so you are be able to see the aircraft
(depending upon altitude--  not necessarily both takeoffs & landings or in
the pattern but at least one or more low altitude aspect) while monitoring
the radio transmissions.

Of course, there's no risk to being at your home/office monitoring the
action OR perhaps transiting/mobile (not even close to a military air base).
Surely MOST folks who are posting loggings to this list are enjoying the
hobby by monitoring from their homes.  About 95% of my loggings are from
home, 4% mobile, & <1% "near scene"...

I too would like to see every military base/civilian airport set aside a
small parking area outside the fence line for hobbyists to use.  Put in a
security camera with audio capabilities etc..  Also I  wouldn't have a
problem with paying an entrance fee to have this "on scene" ability
(hopefully one could get a yearly pass!!!).

Also I'm somewhat surprised Larry to part of your response...  I'm not (and
I think most of the lurkers & some of the posters here) trying to be one of
those erosion of rights/government conspiracy activists BUT do believe that
the spontaneous "on scene" activities are one of the enjoyable aspects of
the military communications monitoring hobby...  We are looking for a
practical/operational means of enjoying the total aspects of the milcom
monitoring hobby while yet not causing a problem for security forces to
focus on us rather than a real threat!!!....  Perhaps you are right that WE
can't do anything to change this situation at this time, BUT maybe someone
on the list can come up with some additional ideas OR be in a position to
make some changes!!!

Ken
Springfield MA Monitoring Area


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Van Horn" <larry@grove-ent.com>
To: "'MILCOM'" <milcom@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: COMMENT-- SCANNER + CAMERA = TERRORIST!!??! Re:
[MilCom]OFF-TOPIC -Photographers Say Police Harass Them


> As one who served in military security unit during one of my shore duty
> tours, let me boil this down in some real simple terms.
> If someone was hanging around the fence at your house with a scanner,
> still or video camera, binoculars, & note pad/pen, what would you do. I
> would call the cops!
snip..snip..
> Now can we please drop this nonsense. This topic crops up way to often
> on this list and no matter how it is phrased, the answer will always
> remain the same. We live in different times and procedures are different
> and that is reality. We are going to learn to adapt or take up another
> hobby. Now it is time to return this channel to its normal traffic
> please.


From jlmetcalfe at direcway.com  Fri Jul 23 20:52:05 2004
From: jlmetcalfe at direcway.com (Jack L. Metcalfe)
Date: Fri Jul 23 20:55:10 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 5202.0 1 FOXTROT
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040723204324.01c17e88@pop3.direcway.com>

5202.0 1 FOXTROT calling 1 CHARLIE, no contact.  US Army or NG: 0041 USB 
voice and ALE.  ALE
calls 1F & 1C.  Been active most of the afternoon along with APACHE, 1A, 
1B, 1D, 1E, 1G & 4G here
and on:

   5062.0
   5087.0
   5878.5
   8054.5
   9119.5
11575.0
12087.0 (24/JULY/04) (JLM)
----------------------
Jack L. Metcalfe  Stanford, KY
Icom IC-R75 (x2), IC-R8500 & IC-R5
200' Longwire & 45' EF-SWL Sloper
----------------------


From ronvking at ntlworld.com  Fri Jul 23 21:14:18 2004
From: ronvking at ntlworld.com (Ron King)
Date: Fri Jul 23 21:17:08 2004
Subject: 'On Scene" Alternatives for the Hobbyists??!!Re: COMMENT--
	SCANNER +CAMERA = TERRORIST!!??! Re: [MilCom]OFF-TOPIC
	-PhotographersSay Police Harass Them
In-Reply-To: <01ef01c47114$f37a9c40$6401a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>
Message-ID: <000001c4711b$8e6361f0$6002a8c0@desktop>


Hi Folks,

Even being "near" the airfield can produce its problems. I was about two
miles from RAF Lakenheath,parked up and out of the way but because I had
put a small discone mag mounted aerial on the roof that got reported to
the police who paid me a visit. 

Glad to say they accepted what I was doing and left me alone after
checking me out but informed me that "several" passers in vehicles
regarded my being there as suspicious. I was on a rural road pulled off
in a layby and nowhere near any buildings, miltary or civilian, but "Joe
Public" seemed to thing I was a danger to the base. Boy it would have
needed one heck of a bomb for that, certainly not possible in my small 4
seater car!! Needless to say I don't use that discone remotely near an
airfield now.

Rgds Ron



-----Original Message-----
From: milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:milcom-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken
Sent: 24 July 2004 01:27
To: Larry Van Horn; 'MILCOM'
Subject: 'On Scene" Alternatives for the Hobbyists??!!Re: COMMENT--
SCANNER +CAMERA = TERRORIST!!??! Re: [MilCom]OFF-TOPIC -PhotographersSay
Police Harass Them


Hello Larry & the group!!!!

I'm glad to see that we've had somewhat of a good debate/discussion on
this subject -- Times have changed and adaption to these changes needs
to be met!

Larry does bring up some good points about security reacting to what
they see/observe versus (what I see as) more serious potential threats
that they can't see -- because it isn't on the fence line!!!).  I've
personally  had one 'minor' incident 'outside the fence line' (post
9/11) (trying out my first new digital camera) ... So I know at my local
joint military/civilian air base/airport that I can't go right to the
fence line and have some hobby type fun, listening, watching, & taking
pictures!!!

So hobbyists have to look for some alternatives to "on scene", perhaps
better termed "near scene"!!!, so that you aren't seen by security as a
threat and thus can experience some of the joy of being close to the
action without being the subject of a security response.  However, there
still are some risks to doing this because of the public's perception of
seeing someone who looks out of the ordinary --and folks with scanners
meet that criteria, perhaps with the exception of being at a NASCAR
events or base open house/air show!!

Sometimes there might be a public parking area or public recreational
parks on some of the approach zones to runways in use, and you will be
close enough to monitor the aircraft & ground radio transmissions as
well as get a good to excellent view of the aircraft to take still
pictures or video. There also might be other areas (e.g. industrial
areas/warehouse areas) that allow public access and you will be also be
close enough.  Additionally, you might be forturnate enough to live
right on the runways approach/departure zones (I still can't figure out
how anyone would build a  new $200K+  house on an approach/departure
zone with jets rumbling overhead them (even the military doesn't put
it's family/single housing on approach/departure zones to the
runways!!!), or furthermore, adjacent (parallel/perpendicular)  to the
approach/take off zones, so you are be able to see the aircraft
(depending upon altitude--  not necessarily both takeoffs & landings or
in the pattern but at least one or more low altitude aspect) while
monitoring the radio transmissions.

Of course, there's no risk to being at your home/office monitoring the
action OR perhaps transiting/mobile (not even close to a military air
base). Surely MOST folks who are posting loggings to this list are
enjoying the hobby by monitoring from their homes.  About 95% of my
loggings are from home, 4% mobile, & <1% "near scene"...

I too would like to see every military base/civilian airport set aside a
small parking area outside the fence line for hobbyists to use.  Put in
a security camera with audio capabilities etc..  Also I  wouldn't have a
problem with paying an entrance fee to have this "on scene" ability
(hopefully one could get a yearly pass!!!).

Also I'm somewhat surprised Larry to part of your response...  I'm not
(and I think most of the lurkers & some of the posters here) trying to
be one of those erosion of rights/government conspiracy activists BUT do
believe that the spontaneous "on scene" activities are one of the
enjoyable aspects of the military communications monitoring hobby...  We
are looking for a practical/operational means of enjoying the total
aspects of the milcom monitoring hobby while yet not causing a problem
for security forces to focus on us rather than a real threat!!!....
Perhaps you are right that WE can't do anything to change this situation
at this time, BUT maybe someone on the list can come up with some
additional ideas OR be in a position to make some changes!!!

Ken
Springfield MA Monitoring Area


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Van Horn" <larry@grove-ent.com>
To: "'MILCOM'" <milcom@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: COMMENT-- SCANNER + CAMERA = TERRORIST!!??! Re:
[MilCom]OFF-TOPIC -Photographers Say Police Harass Them


> As one who served in military security unit during one of my shore 
> duty tours, let me boil this down in some real simple terms. If 
> someone was hanging around the fence at your house with a scanner, 
> still or video camera, binoculars, & note pad/pen, what would you do. 
> I would call the cops!
snip..snip..
> Now can we please drop this nonsense. This topic crops up way to often

> on this list and no matter how it is phrased, the answer will always 
> remain the same. We live in different times and procedures are 
> different and that is reality. We are going to learn to adapt or take 
> up another hobby. Now it is time to return this channel to its normal 
> traffic please.


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From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Fri Jul 23 22:54:38 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul 23 22:57:52 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 23 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <82.1155533c.2e33296e@aol.com>

Busy day in spite of the heavy t-storms. Most of the afternoon activity 
squeezed in between storms.

228.45: COBRA-62, (either OC or RC-135, Offutt), request WX Offutt 1530Z.
372.20:  SMOKY-52, (C-21A, Peterson), takeoff Colorado Springs.
275.80:  STUD-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared to Airburst Range.
275.80:  REDEYE-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out for 2 sorties 
to Cheyenne MOA.
319.00:  SPAD-91, (Unk), with Denver Center, FL 390. Switch 323.25. ((Used to 
think these guys were Fort Worth F-16's but now not sure. They act more like 
bombers; heading west in the morning and coming back east later on.))
372.20:  JOSA-313, (C-21A, CO-ANG), takeoff Colorado Springs. Return later.
121.00:  HUNTER-04, (T-1A, Randolph), land; then on to Oklahoma City.
372.20:  JOSA-764, (C-21A), takeoff Colorado Springs.
372.20:  JOSA-957, (C-21A, Peterson), takeoff Colorado Springs. Return later.
239.025: SCAR-3, (Possible F/A-18, VFA-82, Beaufort), land Colorado Springs.
275.80:  STUD-21, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared to Cheyenne MOA.
121.00:  REACH 5902, (C-130, Little Rock), land; then on to Little Rock.
319.00:  SPAD-91, (Unk), with Denver Center, FL 370. Switch 377.05. ((Heading 
back east now))
121.60:  SCOUT-22, (E-3, Tinker), cleared to Tinker.
298.40:  REACH 88, (C-130), land Colorado Springs.
319.00:  ZAPPER-11, (EA-6B, VAQ-130, Whidbey), with Denver Center, FL 310. 
Switch 306.90.
291.675: TACO-91, (F-16, NM-ANG), trying WX divert from Cheyenne to Buckley, 
but with Level-5 t-storm over the field decides to go on to Colorado Springs.
298.40:  SUMMIT-11, (C-130, Peterson), checking on flight plan routing. The 
one he was faxed is completely backwards from what he filed.
298.40:  SUMMIT-23, (C-130, Peterson), land Colorado Springs.
372.20:  JOSA-248, (C-21A), takeoff Colorado Springs.
372.20:  JOSA-072, (C-21A, Scott), land Colorado Springs; then back to Scott.
306.90:  SWITCH-11, flight of 2, (F/A-18C, VFA-151, Lemoore), with Denver 
Center, FL 370. Climbing to 410 for WX. Switch 319.00 and 377.05. Requesting 
direct Peoria and switch 323.05.
319.00:  TALON-36, (T-45, Meridian), with Denver Center, FL 390.
228.45:  NAVY 7G726, (T-34C, Corpus, Christi), requesting WX Jeffco. (NW 
Denver General Aviation Airport))
291.675: DICEY-97, (T-37B,Sheppard), land.
298.40:  SUMMIT-11, (C-130, Peterson), land Colorado Springs.
291.675: TACO-91, (F-16, NM-ANG), coming up from Colorado Springs for divert 
into Buckley. Still trying to get to Cheyenne. ((Possibly for the Air Show at 
Cheyenne next week))
349.20:  JOSA-534, (C-21A), wants update on t-storm picture at Colorad 
Springs. 
291.675: SPARTA-1, flight of 2, (F-16, ?Luke?), land; then on to Luke. 
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Fri Jul 23 23:55:53 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul 23 23:58:58 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/23/04
Message-ID: <12e.470816b7.2e3337c9@aol.com>

Not bad at all, quite active early on. Good bit of fighter types.

RAPTOR-26 (F-16) 370.875>268.7>284.7, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Navy Fort 
Worth (KNFW).

GUARD-15799 flight of 2 (UH-1, Dobbins) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins. (Return 
around 1545z)

RED DOG-31 (UH-1, NAS Atlanta) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins.  (Return around 
1530z)

GATOR-11 flight of 3 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7>284.7>254.35 (A/A 
328.55), takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Andrews (KADW). (Return around 2015z)

RIVER-01 (F/A-18, NAS JRB New Orleans) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

COBB-50 flight of 2 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75>121.0>133.1 (A/A 239.975), 
takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Augusta (KAGS).  (Return around 1720z)

ROMAN-61 (F/A-18, NAS Oceana) 370.875, lands Dobbins. (Later depart around 
1655z, Cleared to Marine Beaufort (KNBC))

AMBUSH-21 ?flight of 2? (F/A-18) 370.875, lands Dobbins. (Later depart around 
1700z as Ambush-02, Cleared to Navy Fort Worth (KNFW))

BOBCAT-93 (T-45?, NAS Meridian) 346.8, lands Dobbins.

BRACE-02 (F/A-18) 370.875>268.7>306.2, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Navy Fort 
Worth (KNFW). (Before takeoff, I believe, was talking to another acft on 
319.5, mentioned he was just going to be a single on ground freq, so I'd guess, 
using A/A with his buddy who stuck around (I believe it was Ambush-21/02))

COBB-27 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Later depart, Cleared to 
Lackland/Kelly (KSKF))

ROCK-26 (C-130, NAS JRB Willow Grove) 120.75, lands Dobbins (Offloading 28 
pax, Didn't think they could fit that many on there)) (Later depart 1805z, 
Cleared to Navy Willow Grove (KNXX))

NAVY 7B-732 (UC-12, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Pope (KPOB). (Return around 0305z)

GATOR-21 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta) 370.875>268.7, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Marine Cherry Point (KNKT). (Return around 2350z)

COBB-28 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Sheppard 
(KSPS).

BOGEY-17 flight of 3 (F-5, NAS Fallon) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

PAT-342 (??) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

NAVY JS-771 (C-9, NAS Atlanta, #1529) 134.125, lands Dobbins. (Later depart 
around 0355z, Cleared to Navy Norfolk (KNGU))
-----------------------------------------
           MISC
?TUBE?-51 (??) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 319.1>239.35, FL 290 Direct Robins.
JOSA-### (C-21, # 84-0073) w/ Maxwell Dispatch (372.2) rqst 3k ibs of 
fuel,1pax offload,A1.
NAVY 1G-410 (??, NAS Corpus Christi) lands KFTY (118.5)
NAVY 1G-457 (??, NAS Corpus Christi) lands KPDK (120.9) (Later depart around 
1740z)
?? (KC-135, McConnell, # 63-8044) w/ ?? (C-17, Charleston, # 96-0006) on 
AR-216 (276.5)
------------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga
From AllanStern at aol.com  Sat Jul 24 01:04:15 2004
From: AllanStern at aol.com (AllanStern@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul 24 01:07:22 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Patrick AFB Area Log - Friday, 23 July 2004
Message-ID: <20.2efd9b2f.2e3347cf@aol.com>

        Friday, 23 July 2004        

DOS 117: UH-1N, US State Dept, Intl Narcotics Mission, Patrick AFB.
9:00am, 12:15pm: Local work.
[133.75, 335.8]

ASCOT 4749: C-130, Royal Air Force, UK
10:35am: Departs to CYQ.
[124.35, 133.75, 132.65, 124.8]

N696US: NA-265 Sabreliner, United Space Alliance, Houston TX (Space Shuttle 
Contractor)
9:46am: Lands Space Coast RAP.
[132.65, 118.9]

MAKO 11: F-16C, Homestead JARB, AFRC 482FW 93FS "Makos"
10:05am: Strafing at Range; working Placid MOA.
[292.2, 285.725, 138.125]

SHARK 21: F-16C, Homestead JARB, AFRC 482FW 93FS "Makos"
10:25am: Working at Range and Placid MOA.
[292.2, 139.8, 138.125]

NASA 969: T-38N #65-10329, NASA-Johnson Space Ctr, Houston.
11:17am: Lands NASA-KSC Shuttle Landing Facility.
[132.65, 128.55]

FRED 18: C-5A, Travis AFB
11:23am: Inbound to NASA-KSC SLF.
[132.65]

N21NG: LJ-35A, Northrop Grumman JSTARS Integ Facility, KMLB.
11:45am: Lands Melbourne IAP.
[132.65, 118.2]

KARMA 41
11:50am: Inbound MacDill AFB f gas-n-go; will return later and RON; rqsts 
crewbus for lunch transport.
[311.0]

SODA 81: KC-135E, McGhee-Tyson 134ARG 151ARS
1:15pm: Area transition; poss dep from X68 or XMR.
[132.65, 124.8]

TEAL 72: WC-130, Keesler AFRC 403W 53WRS "Hurricane Hunter"
2:15pm: Inbound MacDill.
[311.0]

MAKO 11: F-16C, Homestead JARB, AFRC 482FW 93FS
2:25pm: Work at Avon Park Bombing Range.
[292.2, 285.725, 307.1, 138.125]

MAKO 21-24: F-16Cs, Homestead JARB, AFRC 482FW 93FS
2:58pm: Work at Avon Park Bombing Range and Placid MOA.
[292.2, 285.725, 307.1, 139.8, 138.125, 303.15]

NASA 909: T-38N #65-10351, NASA-Johnson Space Ctr, Houston.
3:10pm: NASA-KSC Shuttle Landing Facility.
[132.2, 132.65, 128.55]

BOGEY 17, etc: F-5s, Several flights of 2-ships.
3:20pm-4:30pm: Area transition, Northward, probably coming from NAS-KW. My 
guess is these are VFC-13 birds. One flight might have been given "Direct 
Maxwell."
[317.6, 360.7]

PELICAN 71A: P-3C, Jacksonville NAS VP-45 "Pelicans"
3:43pm: Comms with Fiddle (NAS Jax); also air-air with CARDFILE 71B.
[285.0; 303.0]

KATT 615: T-1A Laughlin
3:44pm: To NAS-Key West.
[349.0]

GUNFIGHTER 27: F-14, Oceana NAS VF-101 "Grim Reapers"
4:02pm: Northbound; FL 370; probably RTB Oceana.
[323.1, 319.0, 256.875, 267.5]

NAVY 1E 054: HH-57, Whiting Field TW-5
4:38pm: Lands Patrick AFB.
[132.65, 133.75]

MUSTANG 01: P-51, Kissimmee A/p
4:30pm: Transition through Avon Park Bombing Range airspace.
[126.15]

NAVY 1E 117: HH-57, Whiting Field TW-5 
4:57pm: Lands Patrick AFB.
[132.65, 133.75]

CARDFILE 71B: P-3C, Jacksonville NAS VP-45
5:02pm: Air-air with PELICAN 71A re dropping "smokers" on buoy, very low 
level; some secure comms.
9:06pm: Thanks RaginCajun for their work; bids farewell.
9:33pm: "ETA Jax 0230z."
[303.0, 285.0]

CORSO 79: C-130E, PR-ANG 156AW 198AS San Juan "Flying Bucaneros"
8:20pm: "Direct Nassau."
[134.0, 133.475, 132.15, 133.4]

KING 21: HC-130, Moody AFB 71RQS
9:35pm: Lands Patrick.
9:52pm: Departs, RTB Moody.
[132.65, 133.75, 124.8, 383.0, 139.3]
Probably picked up Moody pararescue crew who worked with Patrick troops in 
rescue of injured Chinese fisherman off Puerto Rico.

MADFOX 16: P-3C, Jacksonville NAS VP-5 "Mad Foxes"
9:20pm: "Direct NAS Jax."

AL STERN  Satellite Beach FL  (28-11N  80-36W) monitoring
 Patrick AFB (KCOF)       NASA-KSC Shuttle Landing Fac (KX68)
 Avon Park Bombing Range (KAGR)   Cape Canaveral AFS (KXMR)
 JSTARS E-8 Acft Integration Facility, Melbourne IAP (KMLB)
 Worldwide Military HF Communications
 Life Member: Missile, Space and Range Pioneers.
 http://hometown.aol.com/allanstern/myhomepage/index.html (My Freqs)
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From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Sat Jul 24 02:23:49 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Sat Jul 24 02:27:03 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Seattle Milcom JULY 23
Message-ID: <41020075.9070404@verizon.net>

270.800 NAS Whidbey App. ZAPPER 11 flight of four inbound
350.100 NAS Whidbey Base Ops. RY 722 inbound with lots of baggage.165831
119.325 Gray AAF Tower. Army 21570 inbound
124.800 McChord AFB Tower. Guard 21918 transition along I-5



11282.0 CEP MWARA

NAVY PF 605 westbound
REACH 333T eastbound
REACH 462T position report


Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA
Northwest Aircraft Communications
http://microvoltradio.com/

From stephenoconnorsr at comcast.net  Sat Jul 24 13:19:34 2004
From: stephenoconnorsr at comcast.net (Stephen O'Connor)
Date: Sat Jul 24 13:25:35 2004
Subject: [MilCom] RE: HEADS UP S. NEW ENGLAND
Message-ID: <005101c471a2$63eb9280$2402a8c0@stephenl3inhsh>

Damon,
260.900 is also used down here off the New Jersey / New York City coastline. The 177th FW from Atlantic City, NJ have that freq. as "Button 1" to work Huntress.
303.000(USAF Ch. 30-30), 311.000(SAC Primary Ch. 9), and 321.000(SAC Secondary Ch. 11) are also used very heavily here. Been hearing a lot of data burst on 282.425 (ICE Freq.) almost on a daily basis now. Clear comm.'s have almost disappeared from that freq. lately.
Steve
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Sat Jul 24 15:16:03 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul 24 15:19:27 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HEADS UP PATRICK - COBB-28
Message-ID: <d2.1226233b.2e340f73@aol.com>

COBB-28 (C-130) just departed Dobbins after dropping off pax from his trip to 
Sheppard yesterday.  He is now enroute to Patrick @ 1915z.

Al, Let me know if you get him.

Adam
Marietta,Ga
From AllanStern at aol.com  Sat Jul 24 20:14:55 2004
From: AllanStern at aol.com (AllanStern@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul 24 20:18:14 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Re: [RadioMonitors] HEADS UP PATRICK - COBB-28
Message-ID: <1c4.1c188803.2e34557f@aol.com>

Airshowfreak5@aol.com writes:
>
> COBB-28 (C-130) just departed Dobbins after dropping off pax from his trip 
to 
>  Sheppard yesterday.  He is now enroute to Patrick @ 1915z.
> 
>  Al, Let me know if you get him.

He must have arrived during my power nap. :-(
Thanks for the heads-up tho, Adam.

AL STERN  Satellite Beach FL
From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Sat Jul 24 22:09:47 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul 24 22:13:12 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 24 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <1d3.26cc9f7a.2e34706b@aol.com>

Weather and activity levels both lousy.

372.20:  DILLON-2, (C-21A, CO-ANG), takeoff Colorado Springs.
291.675: VAMPIRE-69, (F/A-18, VX-9, China Lake), land; then on to Dobbins.
298.40:  GHOST-89, (KC-10A, McGuire), request pp to McGuire CP. Pass ETA.
372.20:  FAME-43, (C-21A, Keesler), takeoff Colorado Springs.
372.20:  SMOKY-52, (C-21A, Peterson), takeoff Colorado Springs.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Sat Jul 24 23:31:42 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul 24 23:35:02 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/24/04
Message-ID: <1e8.25eafb89.2e34839e@aol.com>

A slow one here today. But with a nice uncommon visit from two acft.

OPEC-80 (KC-10, McGuire) 120.75>121.0.133.1, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Scott (KBLV).

COBB-28 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart around 
1910z, Cleared to Patrick (KCOF))

NAVY JS-771 (C-9, NAS Atlanta, # 161529) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

VAMPIRE-69 (F/A-18, NAWC China Lake) 370.875, lands Dobbins.
---------------------------------------------
                MISC
VALOR-21 flight of 2 (T-37, Columbus) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 299.2>363.1>380.35, FL 
240, Direct Asheville
---------------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Sat Jul 24 23:42:53 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul 24 23:46:13 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Re: Dobbins ARB Logs 7/24/04
Message-ID: <1f0.2613a39e.2e34863d@aol.com>

Forgot one;

JOSA-406 (C-21) calling Dobbins Dispatch (372.2) (Too weak to copy.)

Adam
Marietta,Ga
From f4dphantom at msn.com  Sun Jul 25 12:51:50 2004
From: f4dphantom at msn.com (brian sewell)
Date: Sun Jul 25 12:57:09 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Re: MilCom Digest, Vol 3, Issue 44
References: <20040725080057.9BCC7859DD7@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <BAY4-DAV153G5aYY61L0005464b@hotmail.com>


SAC no Longer Exists 

Today's Topics:

   1. RE: HEADS UP S. NEW ENGLAND (Stephen O'Connor)
   2. HEADS UP PATRICK - COBB-28 (Airshowfreak5@aol.com<mailto:Airshowfreak5@aol.com>)
   3. Re: [RadioMonitors] HEADS UP PATRICK - COBB-28
      (AllanStern@aol.com<mailto:AllanStern@aol.com>)
   4. KBKF: 24 JUL 2004 (Sandy4218@aol.com<mailto:Sandy4218@aol.com>)
   5. Dobbins ARB Logs 7/24/04 (Airshowfreak5@aol.com<mailto:Airshowfreak5@aol.com>)
   6. Re: Dobbins ARB Logs 7/24/04 (Airshowfreak5@aol.com<mailto:Airshowfreak5@aol.com>)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 13:19:34 -0400
From: "Stephen O'Connor" <stephenoconnorsr@comcast.net<mailto:stephenoconnorsr@comcast.net>>
Subject: [MilCom] RE: HEADS UP S. NEW ENGLAND
To: "MilCom" <milcom@mailman.qth.net<mailto:milcom@mailman.qth.net>>
Message-ID: <005101c471a2$63eb9280$2402a8c0@stephenl3inhsh<mailto:005101c471a2$63eb9280$2402a8c0@stephenl3inhsh>>
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Damon,
260.900 is also used down here off the New Jersey / New York City coastline. The 177th FW from Atlantic City, NJ have that freq. as "Button 1" to work Huntress.
303.000(USAF Ch. 30-30), 311.000(SAC Primary Ch. 9), and 321.000(SAC Secondary Ch. 11) are also used very heavily here. Been hearing a lot of data burst on 282.425 (ICE Freq.) almost on a daily basis now. Clear comm.'s have almost disappeared from that freq. lately.
Steve

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 15:16:03 EDT
From: Airshowfreak5@aol.com<mailto:Airshowfreak5@aol.com>
Subject: [MilCom] HEADS UP PATRICK - COBB-28
To: milcom@mailman.qth.net<mailto:milcom@mailman.qth.net>
Cc: radiomonitors@yahoogroups.com<mailto:radiomonitors@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <d2.1226233b.2e340f73@aol.com<mailto:d2.1226233b.2e340f73@aol.com>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

COBB-28 (C-130) just departed Dobbins after dropping off pax from his trip to 
Sheppard yesterday.  He is now enroute to Patrick @ 1915z.

Al, Let me know if you get him.

Adam
Marietta,Ga


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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 20:14:55 EDT
From: AllanStern@aol.com<mailto:AllanStern@aol.com>
Subject: [MilCom] Re: [RadioMonitors] HEADS UP PATRICK - COBB-28
To: RadioMonitors@yahoogroups.com<mailto:RadioMonitors@yahoogroups.com>, milcom@mailman.qth.net<mailto:milcom@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <1c4.1c188803.2e34557f@aol.com<mailto:1c4.1c188803.2e34557f@aol.com>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Airshowfreak5@aol.com<mailto:Airshowfreak5@aol.com> writes:
>
> COBB-28 (C-130) just departed Dobbins after dropping off pax from his trip 
to 
>  Sheppard yesterday.  He is now enroute to Patrick @ 1915z.
> 
>  Al, Let me know if you get him.

He must have arrived during my power nap. :-(
Thanks for the heads-up tho, Adam.

AL STERN  Satellite Beach FL


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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 22:09:47 EDT
From: Sandy4218@aol.com<mailto:Sandy4218@aol.com>
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 24 JUL 2004
To: milcom@mailman.qth.net<mailto:milcom@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <1d3.26cc9f7a.2e34706b@aol.com<mailto:1d3.26cc9f7a.2e34706b@aol.com>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Weather and activity levels both lousy.

372.20:  DILLON-2, (C-21A, CO-ANG), takeoff Colorado Springs.
291.675: VAMPIRE-69, (F/A-18, VX-9, China Lake), land; then on to Dobbins.
298.40:  GHOST-89, (KC-10A, McGuire), request pp to McGuire CP. Pass ETA.
372.20:  FAME-43, (C-21A, Keesler), takeoff Colorado Springs.
372.20:  SMOKY-52, (C-21A, Peterson), takeoff Colorado Springs.

Sandy
Denver, CO


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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 23:31:42 EDT
From: Airshowfreak5@aol.com<mailto:Airshowfreak5@aol.com>
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/24/04
To: milcom@mailman.qth.net<mailto:milcom@mailman.qth.net>
Cc: RadioMonitors@yahoogroups.com<mailto:RadioMonitors@yahoogroups.com>
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A slow one here today. But with a nice uncommon visit from two acft.

OPEC-80 (KC-10, McGuire) 120.75>121.0.133.1, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Scott (KBLV).

COBB-28 (C-130, Dobbins) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would later depart around 
1910z, Cleared to Patrick (KCOF))

NAVY JS-771 (C-9, NAS Atlanta, # 161529) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

VAMPIRE-69 (F/A-18, NAWC China Lake) 370.875, lands Dobbins.
---------------------------------------------
                MISC
VALOR-21 flight of 2 (T-37, Columbus) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 299.2>363.1>380.35, FL 
240, Direct Asheville
---------------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga


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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 23:42:53 EDT
From: Airshowfreak5@aol.com<mailto:Airshowfreak5@aol.com>
Subject: [MilCom] Re: Dobbins ARB Logs 7/24/04
To: milcom@mailman.qth.net<mailto:milcom@mailman.qth.net>
Cc: RadioMonitors@yahoogroups.com<mailto:RadioMonitors@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <1f0.2613a39e.2e34863d@aol.com<mailto:1f0.2613a39e.2e34863d@aol.com>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Forgot one;

JOSA-406 (C-21) calling Dobbins Dispatch (372.2) (Too weak to copy.)

Adam
Marietta,Ga


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From jason_esva at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 25 14:01:40 2004
From: jason_esva at yahoo.com (Jason None)
Date: Sun Jul 25 14:05:05 2004
Subject: [MilCom] DNC Boston
Message-ID: <20040725180140.44335.qmail@web52002.mail.yahoo.com>

Milcom members

you should be able to hear CAP flights and Boston
PD on the teamspeak://scanmassachusetts.no-ip.com:8767

server this weekend and next week durring the
DNC event

Jason R
Monitoring- 
W-386,AR-636
Pax River
Langley AFB
NAS Oceana
NAS Norfolk
Dover,AFB
Wallops Flight Facility



		
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From mystic at ikansas.com  Sun Jul 25 21:11:14 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Sun Jul 25 21:15:56 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	25 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <001201c472ad$9023f200$24cb2740@u5a3b0>


363.200 (KZKC SALINA)
1854Z - ANTI-69

257.750 (KZKC SOUTHWEST KANSAS HIGH DISCRETE)
1652Z - HYDRA-21

343.700 (KZKC TOPEKA)
1708Z - HYDRA-21

277.400 (KZKC SPRINGFIELD)
1945Z - DUKE-72
1948Z - DUKE-75

327.000 (KZKC BUTLER)
1755Z - FAST-54 

375.200 (KIAB METRO)
2202Z - HOIST-47 forecast 0015Z McGUIRE & DOVER

353.500 (KICT APP)
1847Z - ANTI-69
2114Z - ANTI-69

269.100 (KIAB APP - DEP)
2114Z - ANTI-69

257.700 (KSLN TOWER)
1912Z - ANTI-69
1919Z - ANTI-69-2

374.550 (TACAMO)
1920Z (NFM) -shrill high pitch tone

311.000 (COMMAND POST)
2151Z - McCONNELL CMD POST de HOIST-47

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W
From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Sun Jul 25 23:23:56 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Sun Jul 25 23:27:24 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 25 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <f.2f17b51e.2e35d34c@aol.com>

Another fairly slow one.

275.80:  DICEY-97, (T-37B, Sheppard), cleared to Wichita.
228.45:  PARTY-21, (F/A-18, VFA-87, Oceana), request WX Whiteman.
372.20:  JOSA-414, (C-21A), takeoff Colorado Springs.
319.00:  BOGEY-17, (F-5, VFC-13, Fallon), with Denver Center, FL 350. 
Descending to 270 and requesting direct Grand Junction. Switch Grand Junction 
Approach 327.80.
372.20:  SMOKY-99, (C-21A, Peterson), land Colorado Springs.
372.20:  FAME-43, (C-21A, Keesler), calling Peterson PTD.
372.20:  REACH 88, (C-130, Unk), land Colorado Springs.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Mon Jul 26 00:14:55 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Mon Jul 26 00:18:23 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/25/04
Message-ID: <d1.122f6372.2e35df3f@aol.com>

A hazy one here. Activity wasn't grand either.

BOGEY-17 flight of (2 or 3) (F-5, NAS Fallon, VFC-13) 370.875>268.7>306.2, 
takeoff Dobbins. (Missed clearance, on 306.2 mentioned direct Little Rock. Don't 
know if  that was just a radar vector or headed to LRAFB.)

COBB-28 (C-130, Dobbins, 700th AS) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

ROCK-34 (C-130, NAS JRB Willow Grove, 327th AS) 134.125, lands Dobbins. 
(Would later depart around 1715z, Cleared to Wilkes-Barre/Scranton (PA) (KAVP))

AMBUSH-02 (F/A-18, NAS Oceana, VFC-12) 346.8, lands Dobbins. (Would later 
depart around 1720z, Cleared to Navy Oceana (KNTU))

BRACE-02 (F/A-18) 346.8, lands Dobbins.

VAMPIRE-69 (F/A-18,E?, NAWC China Lake, VX-9) 370.875>268.7>284.7>306.2>
350.325, takeoff Dobbins. (Missed his destination, From his heading & radar vectors 
I'd say he was headed to Fort Worth.)

PAT-304 (C-26) 120.75>126.975, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Raleigh-Durham 
(KRDU).

COBB-27 (C-130, Dobbins, 700th AS) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Called into PTD 
and requested fire dept spray the acft for some sort of ceremony, Didn't make 
out the call well.)

NAVY LT-622 (P-3, NAS Jacksonville, VP-62) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Would 
later depart around 2125z, Cleared to McGhee Tyson (KTYS))

NAVY JS-178 (C-9, NAS Atlanta, VR-46, # 161529) 134.125, lands Dobbins.

TALON-28 (T-45, NAS Meridian, VT-7) 370.875>268.7>284.7, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared to Navy Meridian (KNMM).
-------------------------------------------
??? on 254.35>335.65 (Could not make out callsign, I heard something prior to 
that when Dobbins Tower changed an acft's deprt freq to 239.275, I'm gonna 
shoot into the dark and guess BRACE-02 dprting & probably what I heard on 
254.35.)
---------------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga
From AllanStern at aol.com  Mon Jul 26 00:17:10 2004
From: AllanStern at aol.com (AllanStern@aol.com)
Date: Mon Jul 26 00:20:39 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Patrick AFB Area Log - Sunday, 25 July 2004 
Message-ID: <15d.3ab69014.2e35dfc6@aol.com>

    Sunday, 25 July 2004

COBB 28: C-130H, Dobbins AFRC 94AW 
10:15am: Departs Patrick AFB, to Dobbins.
[133.75, 132.65, 124.8]

1E 054: TH-57. Whiting Field TW-5
12:00pm: Departs Patrick AFB, to Jax IAP, after remaining here two days.
[118.4, 133.75, 132.65, 118.85]

TEAL 29: C-130 Keesler AFB AFRC 403W 53WRS "Hurricane Hunters"
12:20pm: Touch-and-goes at Patrick AFB.
[119.4, 132.65, 133.75]

CAJUN 06: A-10, Flight of 3, New Orleans AFRC 926FW 706FS
12:30pm: Departs Patrick to Eglin, after RON.
[289.4, 269.375, 281.425, 273.55, 317.6, 254.325]

JV 111: Prob C-40A, Jacksonville NAS VR-58 "Sunseekers"
12:40pm: Area transition.
[135.075]

PAT 599A: US Army Priority Air Transport
12:54pm: Direct Bahama.
[132.65]

SHARK 87: C-130
1:05pm: Return from Coronet Oak mission (Caribbean)
[133.475, 134.0]

PAT 473: US Army Priority Air Transport
12:54pm: Direct Bahama.
[132.45]
Note: this is possibly PAT 472.

JOLLY 21, 22: HH-60G Pave Hawk Helos
5:05pm: Depart Patrick.  Jolly 21 returns soon.
10:55pm: JOLLY 22 lands.
[269.375]

LT 623: P-3C, Jacksonville VP-62 "Broad Arrows"
5:12pm: Area transition.
[133.475]

Unid Dept of Homeland Security ICE Acft
6:02pm; Comms with Hammer: "RTB Jackpot."
[282.425]

N601FH: EC-135 Eurocopter, Florida Hospital Med Ctr.
6:20pm; Lifeguard flight, transits Avon Park Bombing Range to hospital.
[126.15]

JW 840: C130T, Brunswick VR-62 "Nor'easters"
8:25pm: Inbound Jacksonville NAS; 15 pax, 4 pallets.
[310.2]

FAC 1015: Chilean Air Force
8:43pm: To Hollywood IAP, Ft Lauderdale.
[133.475, 124.6]

REACH 7046: C-17A, Charleston AFB 437AW
8:50pm: Lands Patrick. RONs.
[126.35, 132.65, 133.75]

AL STERN  Satellite Beach FL 
From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Mon Jul 26 00:24:11 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Mon Jul 26 00:27:36 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Seattle Milcom JULY 25
Message-ID: <4104876B.9050500@verizon.net>

McChord AFB arrivals 124.8 Tower, 349.4 CP

REACH 437T
REACH 944Y
REACH 9165
SONIC 11

Misc

280.5 Portland Guard Ops. RATS 69 airborne
270.3 Seattle Center. AG 500 (VAQ-140) flight of four inbound NAS Whidbey
279.6 Seattle Center. CAM 11 checking in
270.8 NAS Whidbey App. VAMPIRE 02 exiting VR 1355, inbound Whidbey

Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA
Northwest Aircraft Communications
http://microvoltradio.com/

From larry at grove-ent.com  Mon Jul 26 10:35:20 2004
From: larry at grove-ent.com (Larry Van Horn)
Date: Mon Jul 26 10:39:04 2004
Subject: [MilCom] RE: 'On Scene" Alternatives for the Hobbyists??!!
In-Reply-To: <01ef01c47114$f37a9c40$6401a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>
Message-ID: <000001c4731d$ca4e4730$8301a8c0@groveent.com>

Ken wrote:
>Also I'm somewhat surprised Larry to part of your response...  I'm not
(and
>I think most of the lurkers & some of the posters here) trying to be
one of
>those erosion of rights/government conspiracy activists BUT do believe
that
>the spontaneous "on scene" activities are one of the enjoyable aspects
of
>the military communications monitoring hobby...  

And I absolutely agree Ken. I am not saying that you shouldn't go out
and 
spot, duh! I am replying to all the complaints about people being
treated 
poorly by base security personnel, I am explaining to you and others
that 
enjoy this facet of our hobby the reality we face in today's security
climate.

You wrote:
>Times have changed and adaptation to these changes needs to be met!

And that is exactly my point. In years past you probably never got even
a 
second look by base personnel even if you sat at the fence for hours and

spotted. But you will now.  That Ken is reality and you can post and
complain 
but that reality will not change.  So what I am saying is instead of
just 
"showing up at the fence" do some  PR work on your own. 

Go to the gate. Every gate has a security presence and the main gate 
usually has the base security headquarters. Some gates will not allow 
civilian traffic through it and will send you to the gate that handles
that 
function (which is usually the base main gate). Ask permission of the
folks 
there. Let them know you are harmless. 

What I wouldn't do is roll in there hot with binoculars, cameras and
scanners 
blazing. If you look stupid (scanners on the belt and binocular-cameras
hanging 
around your neck) and act stupid (scanner on), you will be dismissed
probably 
out of cause. Want to really embarrass yourself, stand there in the
security 
office and your scanner goes off on  their freq at the same time their
radio does. 
Nothing like reinforcing to the  folks at base security that you are
listening to 
them  as well as their base aircraft.  The sad part is I have seen all
this first 
hand, its is true and  has happened.  I hope you get the picture.

>We are looking for a practical/operational means of enjoying the total
aspects 
>of the milcom monitoring hobby while yet not causing a problem for
security 
>forces tofocus on us rather than a real threat!!!....  

And that is my point. If you sneak up to the fence and don't announce
your 
presence, listening to their aircraft freqs and security freqs, and you
have a 
camera and/or binoculars, sorry folks you are a threat. If security
knows you 
are there, you have permission  to be there, and you have the name of
that 
person who gave that permission, or even better you have it in writing, 
you are no longer a threat.

If you don't want to be hassled -- ask permission!

And if the answer is no, be prepared to accept that. If you don't you
might
find yourself on the wrong side in a federal magistrate court.

And make sure you ask permission each and every time you go out to spot 
unless you have permission in writing from base security. You want the
security 
folks to know you are there. 

If you always get a no answer, try one of these two options. 

First I would write or call the Public Affairs Office. I would again
explain what 
you are doing and agree to abide by what ever rules they establish. If
they 
say no camera, they mean no cameras. Photography is a serious issue in 
and around bases and even members of a base can't get on the flight line

with a Kodak. They have to ask permission as well.

Second, if the PAO gets you a negative response or blows you off then
I would call or write the Base Security Officer directly. In plain
English explain 
what you want to do and ask for permission.  If nothing is already in
place rule 
wise, he will either grant permission, turn you down, or take it to the
next base
Department Head meeting for higher up approval.

What ever the decision is, it is what it is. You need to live with it.
If the answer 
is no and you continue your activity covertly, it is only a matter of
time before
you will pay a price.

>Perhaps you are right that WE can't do anything to change this
situation 
>at this time...

Again I will remind you what you wrote:
>Times have changed and adaptation to these changes needs to be met!

>BUT maybe someone on the list can come up with some 
>additional ideas OR be in a position to make some changes!!!

I think the positive change will be the image you present to the folks
at the 
base. You present a negative image or if you give them a bunch of crap,
no
one, especially you, will like the outcome.

Tis the times we live in. And with this I will bug out of this thread. I
have
posted some ideas for you to think about. Hopefully you will take them
to 
heart and if you don't, I hope the next time I am on your base I don't
see
you in the security lock up awaiting a fed magistrate. If you use some
common sense, civility, and courtesy, I think you will have a better and

pleasant experience.

73 all and good hunting,

Larry Van Horn, N5FPW USN (Ret)
Monitoring Times Assistant Editor and Milcom Columnist
WUN Military/Government Newsletter Columnist
Grove Enterprises Technical Support Department
Telephone: V-828-837-9200/F-828-837-2216/800-438-8155


From webbfeat at 1s.net  Mon Jul 26 11:34:10 2004
From: webbfeat at 1s.net (Steve Douglass)
Date: Mon Jul 26 11:39:57 2004
Subject: [MilCom] RE: 'On Scene" Alternatives for the Hobbyists??!!
In-Reply-To: <000001c4731d$ca4e4730$8301a8c0@groveent.com>
References: <000001c4731d$ca4e4730$8301a8c0@groveent.com>
Message-ID: <p06002003bd2ad223b00e@[69.6.182.45]>

At the risk of interjecting my own views into this discussion, let me 
start by saying I agree with Larry and we should all use our heads 
when it come to on scene monitoring. Here's an excerpt from an early 
Pop Com column I wrote ( that also drew quite a bit of heat from some 
those who felt our rights to monitor were being trampled) that echoes 
some of the things Larry was expanding on.

-Steve Douglass


HOMELAND INSECURITY

>Many monitoring enthusiasts have reported that new U.S. homeland 
>security policies have made "on scene" monitoring (such as near 
>military bases and airports) difficult at best and hazardous at 
>worst. Security concerns since 9/11 are understandable and 
>especially near large airports in light of recent arrests involving 
>terrorists trying to obtain Stinger-type missiles.
>
>In my city there is a special spot at the end of a runway at the 
>local airport where aircraft enthusiasts and monitoring hobbyists 
>gather to watch aircraft come and go. It's a great spot on public 
>land where aircraft on approach and take-offs fly just dozens of 
>feet over an observer's head.  I have taken many, many photographs 
>of every type of military aircraft from B-52s to B-2 bombers there 
>and would like to continue to do so. Plus it's a great place to scan 
>the bands and watch the activity at the same time.
>
>Now called Rick Husband International Airport (formerly Amarillo 
>International) the airport is heavily used by the military for 
>training because of its extra long runways.
>
>Runway Two-Two is over 13,000 feet long and were part of the now 
>closed Amarillo Air Force Base (a former SAC base) formerly home to 
>B-52 and B-47 heavy bombers. When the base closed the runways and 
>facilities were given to the city under the condition that military 
>could continue to use them, and that they still do.
>
>On any given day it is not unlikely to see many F-16s from Cannon, 
>AFB or C-17s from Altus doing practice landings and take-offs, plus 
>with a new Bell Helicopter Textron plant on the south side of the 
>airport building MV-22s, occasionally one can catch the Ospreys on 
>test flights.
>
>However, in the light of a new era in terrorism, security at the 
>local airport has been more than beefed up.  Security patrols on the 
>perimeter are constant and the days of sitting in a vehicle watching 
>the aircraft unnoticed are long gone.


>Sit at "the spot" for longer than five minutes and the airport 
>police are bound to notice you.  Sometimes the local police are 
>dispatched to find out who you are and to discourage you from 
>parking anywhere near the airport.
>
>I'm not alone in reporting this. Many monitors across the world have 
>reported or complained about being run-off by security police at 
>airports or near military bases. Some have even been detained and 
>questioned.  For some reason a car bristling with antennas and 
>occupied by guys watching the aircraft is considered suspicious. Go 
>figure!
>
>In light of this, I have two equal and opposite reactions. First of 
>all, as a member of the flying public I feel more secure knowing 
>that the security police are doing their best to keep the airport 
>secure. On the other hand, In reality I know that if a terrorist was 
>to pick a spot near an airport  from where to fire a hand-held 
>missile from, chances are no one would ever see them because of  the 
>vast acres of real estate under the flight path of an airliner. It's 
>doubtful they would pick a spot anywhere near where an airport 
>security patrol could spot them.
>
>Since airport and military security patrols don't normally t leave 
>the immediate vicinity of the airport in search of possible threats, 
>they do what they can and unfortunately that means anyone who parks 
>within or near their security zone become a subject of close 
>scrutiny.
>
>Because of this it has become very hard for those of us who enjoy 
>aircraft, military and utility monitoring to do any on-scene 
>monitoring without being the subject of intense scrutiny or even 
>sometimes becoming the subject on an  FBI investigation.
>
>However, there is a workable solution to this problem and it is in 
>monitoring enthusiast's own hands. It is only human nature to be 
>fearful of those we know nothing about, so what we need to do is 
>make ourselves known.
>
>On one of my visits to the spot, I decided that when I was 
>approached by airport security, I wouldn't leave (like other 
>radio-monitors did when they heard the patrol cars being dispatched 
>to the spot by dispatchers on their scanners) but instead I would 
>cautiously approach them and make myself known.
>
>After parking at the spot for ten minutes, I soon monitored 
>two-units being sent out to find out who I was. I'm sure when they 
>pulled up they were surprised to find me standing at the perimeter 
>fence, smiling and signaling them to come over.
>
>Usually they sit and watch any suspect vehicle and then call local 
>police to investigate. But I guess that because I was out of my 
>vehicle, smiling and not carrying anything they decided it was safe 
>enough to come over to see what I wanted. They approached cautiously 
>with their hands on their gun-holsters but not in an overly 
>threatening manner.
>
>When they got to fence I put out my hand to offer a friendly 
>handshake and said, "Hello, my name is Steve Douglass. I'm an 
>aircraft enthusiast and radio hobbyist who just loves to photograph 
>military aircraft. Is it all right if I stay at this spot for and 
>watch the aircraft come and go?"
>
>Instantly they relaxed.  "Would you like to see some 
>identification?" I offered. They answered "Yes."  I could tell from 
>the instant change in their demeanor they were pleased to see such 
>openness. My guess was that they were used to people being evasive. 
>I gave them my license.  One of them went back to his car to radio 
>the local police for any information on me in their database.
>
>I chatted with the other officer for five minutes while we waited 
>for the result of their inquiry. I tried to assure him that I was 
>just interested in watching the planes and was not a threat.  I also 
>said I would like to visit the spot often and I hoped they would 
>allow me to do so. I also said, I understood the difficult position 
>they were in and appreciated what they were doing. As it turns out 
>he was an aviation buff too and he talked about all the cool 
>military planes he had seen at the airport, including some F-117s 
>that came and went in the middle of the night.
>
>My record came back clean and they seemed satisfied to find out I 
>wasn't a nut or a terrorist. We chatted for about ten more minutes 
>about military aircraft, radios and the like. Soon it was clear to 
>them I was just an aircraft buff. 
>
>Since then I have visited the spot many times and have not raised 
>the eyebrows of security. Sometimes they stop to chat about recent 
>events at the airport and I have begun to know them as just normal 
>work-a-day Joes doing a difficult job.  I went as so far as to tell 
>them that if I ever saw anything suspicious I would be sure to call 
>them. That they appreciated very much.
>
>As a gesture of my appreciation I printed some of my favorite photos 
>and sent them to the security office with a card of thanks. Now 
>whenever they stop and talk they show me their photos!
>
>As a result I've reclaimed my spot and can again come and go as I 
>please without fear of being harassed by the airport or local 
>police.  I suggest to anyone in my position when approached by any 
>of these hard-working officers to do the same as I did.
>
>Here are ten simple guidelines to follow:
>
>1.When approached, make yourself known and don't run off.
>2. Don't ever trespass on government or airport property. 
>3.Never carry a weapon on yourself or in your vehicle. 
>4.Be sure to show you are unarmed and not make any sudden or overt 
>moves towards the officers.
>5. Be friendly but not overly so.  Be calm and do everything in slow motion.
>6. Ask them for a phone number where you can call them to let them 
>know in advance that you'll be in the area or so you can report 
>suspicious behavior.
>7. Take time to learn their names. Only strangers are suspect.
>8. Don't complain or gripe about "your right to be there."
>9. Obey all warning signs and in particular, NO TRESPASSING and NO 
>PHOTOGRAPHY signs. Always ask permission to photograph.
>10. Agree to any background check or personal search. If you have a 
>criminal record I wouldn't hang around the airport. If you feel that 
>is a violation of your rights, then don't be in their area of 
>security!
>
>Now keep in mind these guidelines only work around 
>civilian-controlled airports. Military bases are a different animal 
>altogether. Since military security officers are not bound by the 
>same rules as civilian agencies you must approach them (if at all) 
>with extreme caution. I suggest if you want to monitor or photograph 
>near the perimeter of a military base you first make contact by 
>telephone or letter to the base commander, informing him of your 
>intentions and be willing to meet with them about any security 
>concerns.  Those warning signs that read "Use Of Deadly Force 
>Authorized" mean exactly what they say.  So if you get shot while 
>trying to take covert photos of nuclear submarines while trespassing 
>on Navy property, it's your own fault!
>
>
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-- 
"I have spent the majority of my life listening to shortwave radios 
and scanners, but the rest of it I've wasted."
From roadkill at strange.net  Mon Jul 26 17:29:59 2004
From: roadkill at strange.net (roadkill@strange.net)
Date: Mon Jul 26 17:32:54 2004
Subject: [MilCom] S.NEW ENGLAND HEADS UP AGAIN
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040726172747.0246e4c0@mail.strange.net>

hey all sounds like they are either playin again or an actual 
mil/uscg  intercept
cg08 w/huntress tracking low flying slow mover
260.9



adam

From roadkill at strange.net  Mon Jul 26 17:44:18 2004
From: roadkill at strange.net (roadkill@strange.net)
Date: Mon Jul 26 17:47:04 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HEADS UP FOLLOW UP
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040726174032.024ea060@mail.strange.net>

hey all i guess it was a real intercept
aircraft n number   N8121C
comes back to a guy in westboro ma.
SOMEBODY IS IN DEEP KIM CHEE


keep an eye on the news
-- btw i got most of the audio for those who are interested- email me off list


adam
on the shore in ri
ic-r10
icfsw7600g

From rfinder1 at verizon.net  Mon Jul 26 19:41:31 2004
From: rfinder1 at verizon.net (Ken)
Date: Mon Jul 26 19:44:56 2004
Subject: The Finale!! Re: [MilCom] RE: 'On Scene" Alternatives for the
	Hobbyists??!!
References: <000001c4731d$ca4e4730$8301a8c0@groveent.com>
Message-ID: <037801c4736a$144c7860$6501a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>

Thanks to all who responded (rights activists, noted columnists, & the
normal bunch who respond) Well here's the facts, sir, nothing but the
facts!!! with this entire "On Scene" discussion:

1. Base Security Forces have orders that they follow as given out at guard
mount.  They have NO authority to deviate from the orders.  One order MIGHT
say "any vehicle(s) or person(s) next to the base fence line will be
challenged, temporarily detained, & complete id information obtained for
entry into XXXX system".  "Order vehicle(s)/person(s) to leave area & not to
return".    YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET PERMISSION TO LINGER OUTSIDE THE FENCE
LINE FROM BASE SECURITY OFFICIALS!!!!!

2.  ANYONE who approaches an entry gate and starts to ask for permission to
do anything (and holds up the rest of the traffic trying to get in) is
considered suspecious &  at the very least basically going to have the
inside of that vehicle carefully looked at.  So your binoculars, scanner,
note pad, reference materials, two way radio, & cameras are all going to be
noted.  You MIGHT be asked to move your vehicle to a particular inspection
area & also asked to get out of the vehicle. You may also have to explain
about what you are using all that equipment for.   My advice:  If you don't
have official business to conduct at a military base, than STAY AWAY FROM
THE BASE ENTRY CONTROL GATES!!!!!!

3.  The Public Affairs Offices really has NO authority to allow taking
pictures from an off base site.  If there's base tours, they might offer you
the opportunity to take a tour.  EVEN the 'credible'  news media, has been
restricted to taking pictures ONLY at certain locations on many bases.

4.  I still think that the "near scene" activity (being away from the fence
line) may be a viable alternative.  Surely there is some risk of law
enforcement encounters, but it's probably not going to be as intense.  Some
locations may also possibly have joint operations airports covert
surveillance/ overt enforcement teams that patrol a much wider 'area of
interest' so to speak & the response intensity may vary.

5.  This is only a hobby -- Hobbies are for enjoyment & relaxation.  You
shouldn't be placing yourself in danger or for that matter anyone else. Life
WILL still go on without being "ON SCENE" or even "NEAR SCENE"!!!

Right now I'm in my underground air conditioned bunker (well not really just
the ground floor on a split level home) watching the DNC activity on TV.
I'm also monitoring the Boston CAP activity "HARRASS 31 & 32 " & air
refueling on 260.9, etc. with just a portable antenna on my BC895XLT (albeit
not the best of reception, but readible), this of course is also exciting,
no danger to anyone (including me) & really is a VERY large part of the
overall milcom monitoring hobby!!!


Ken
Springfield MA Monitoring Area


From Rapbep at aol.com  Mon Jul 26 20:06:45 2004
From: Rapbep at aol.com (Rapbep@aol.com)
Date: Mon Jul 26 20:10:29 2004
Subject: [MilCom] DC Area Logs, 26 Jul 04
Message-ID: <dd.102580d7.2e36f695@aol.com>


1. ANDREWS AFB (KADW): 
[Tower (118.4/349.0); CP (141.55;378.1); PTD (122.85; 372.2): Potomac 
TRACON/Reagan National APP/DEP(119.3;335.5;124.2;118.95;119.85;125.65)] 

HOME BASED:

Venus 81 (VC-9 # 72-1681, 99th AS)- depart then RTB due to hitting bird on 
take off roll. Checked acft out then departed again for approaches at BWI & 
Andrews.
Mussel 1,2, 3, 5, 7 (UH-1s, 1st Helo Sqdn)- local area ops.
DC 92 (KC-135R, 459th ARW)- depart
Venus 23 (C-20 # 86-0203, 99th AS)- depart
Marine 317 (C-12, MASD)- depart.
WAMO 11 (Bell helo, Dept of Energy)- approaches
Navy 692 (C-20 D # 163692, VR-1)- depart.
Navy 375 (C-12, AOD)- approaches
Pacer 09 (C-21, 457th AS)- approaches.
Marine 374 (C-12, MASD)- land
Boxer 381 (C-38/C-40A, 201st ALS DC ANG)- depart
SAM 7736- land
Boxer 321 (C-38/C-40A, 201st ALS DC ANG)- depart.
Cobra 50 (EA-6B, VAQ-209)- depart.

VISITORS :

JOSA 218- depart
Carmen 1 (C-130, 142nd AS, DE ANG Wilmington)- w/Navy Ops (386.8) then land.
Navy SD 324 (F-18B # 161723, VX-23)- w/ZDC (281.4) then w/approach (250.3).
JOSA 484- depart
Easy 40 (unidentified)- depart.
Cobra 70 (RC-135, Offutt)- land
JOSA 972- depart.
PAT 357- land. Departed about 1 hour later.
JOSA 456- depart. Returned about 2 hours later.
Reach 6955- land
JOSA 218- land


2. PATUXENT RIVER NAS (KNHK):
[NTPS-Test Pilot School; NSATS (VX-23)-Strike Aircraft Test Squadron; NFATS 
(VX-20)-Force Aircraft Test Squadron-;NRWATS (HX-21)-Rotary Wing Aircraft Test 
Squadron- 119.275; 120.05; 123.7; 127.95; 256.5; 270.8; 281.8; 354.8]

NASA 8 (Beech 200, Wallops Island)- w/approach (127.95).
Navy 7A1501 (C-12 AOD)- depart (120.05)
Tester 26 (T-2C, NTPS)- w/Bay Watch (256.5).
Water Bug 294 (probable E-2C, VX-20)- w/mobile control van (313.7) w/test of 
airborne tracking systems, including Link-11 (Alligator) & Timber. Also 
mention of contacting Prideful (unidentified).
Osprey 34 (V-22, VX-20)- w/approach (121.0). Also w/Bay Watch (270.8).
Navy 692 (C-20 D # 163692, VR-1, Andrews)-w/approach (318.8) for approaches 
then RTB Andrews.
Water Bug 774 (P-3C # 162774, VX-20)- approaches at Andrews then RTB Pax 
River.

3. Davison AAF, Ft Bevoir VA (KDAA):
Tower (126.3/229.4/241.0); Potomac approach/departure (118.85/118.95/119.85); 
Base Ops (139.4).

PAT 88- land. Departed about 1/2 hour later.
PAT 8009- depart.
PAT 295- depart.
Navy 7C512 (C-12, AOD NAS Chambers)- land.
Sunny 345 (RC-12, Hunter AAF, Savannah GA)- land w/DV's, gassed up then 
departed w/DV's.
Army 21863 (probable UC-35)- depart.

4. Martin State Airport (KMTN):
104th Fighter Sqdn MD ANG; 135th Airlift Sqdn MD ANG-Tower (121.3/297.2); 
Raven Ops (143.8/347.2); Crab Ops (385.9)

Evac 71354 (C-130J # 97-1354, 135th AS MD ANG)-land at Andrews for upload of 
medevac crew & patients. Departed about 1 hour later. Returned to Andrews in 
the late PM to drop off medevac crew then RTB'd to Martin State. Also w/Crab 
Ops (385.9) at end of mission.
Venus 23 (C-20 # 86-0203, 99th AS, Andrews)- approaches (121.3). Then 
approaches at BWI (119.7).

5. Marine Corps Air Facility (MCAF) Quantico (KNYG):
Tower (118.6/360.2); Approach/Departure (127.05/290.375); Base Ops (355.3).

Nighthawk 71 (VH-3, HMX-1)- land at Andrews North Pad. 
Nighthawk 41 (H-60/H-3/CH-46, HMX-1)- land at Andrews.

6. MISCELLANEOUS:

PAT 25 (helo)- land at Phillips AAF, Aberdeen Proving Grounds.
Guard 21927 (OH-58A # 73-21927, Maryland RAID, Weide AAF)- land at Phillips 
AAF.
N1NA (Gulfstream, NASA HQs)- land at Reagan National.

RON
MARYLAND, USA
PRO-2045 W/D-130J DISCONE
From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Mon Jul 26 20:12:10 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Mon Jul 26 20:15:52 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Charleston AFB Logs 24 July 04
Message-ID: <004901c4736e$5ee095b0$0fd84fd8@Marks>

349.400 Charleston CP
------------------------
REACH 7030 (C-5B)
REACH 4062
BASCO 52
LIFTER 31
BASCO 49


344.600 Meteo
----------------
HUNT 77 req WX at McGuire AFB


284.500 Sealord
------------------
BLADE 23 (F/A-18A, VMFA-115)


376.900 W-157 Discrete
--------------------------
BLADE 23 (F/A-18A, VMFA-115)


273.525
-------------------
GUNFIGHTER 61


379.100 JAX CTR
---------------------
NAVY BF 528 (P-3C)




Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

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From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Mon Jul 26 20:27:14 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Mon Jul 26 20:31:41 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF Logs 24 July 04
Message-ID: <006701c47370$94082670$0fd84fd8@Marks>

1416Z    11175.0    TURBO 98 (KC-135, 22 ARW) with Mainsail call with no answer

1417Z    11175.0    REACH 3997 p/p via Lajes HF-GCS to ? with inbound message for 1230 local ETA

2158Z    9025.0    GHOST 88 (self id KC-10A, tail # 87-0122) ALE initiated call to TACC with request they relay to McGuire CP at DSN 650-3995 their 2345z ETA, A1, 0 PAX, 0 cargo, 6 crew followed by p/p to Meteo

2330Z    8912.0    19C position report to PANTHER. Bearing 113, 79 miles from A6


ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: CS3, CS6, CS9, D43, D49, D70, F12, I62, J15, J19, J36, J37, LNT, OPB, T85, TST, X60



Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

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http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Mon Jul 26 20:35:57 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Mon Jul 26 21:04:26 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Charleston AFB Logs 25 July 04
Message-ID: <00a901c47375$1dd431b0$0fd84fd8@Marks>

349.400 Charleston CP
------------------------
LIFTER 19
REACH 7030 (C-5B)
REACH 341T
REACH 7045 inbound 1647z
REACH 544
REACH 3603


157.050 USCG
------------------
CG 6551 (HH-65B)



Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

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From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Mon Jul 26 20:59:59 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Mon Jul 26 21:04:28 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF Logs 25 July 04
Message-ID: <00ab01c47375$2a15b4d0$0fd84fd8@Marks>

0122Z    5708.0    REACH 7028 with p/p request for Andrews HF-GCS. QSY 11175 kHz

0129Z    11175.0    REACH 7028 p/p via Andrews HF-GCS to Dover AFB CP with inbound message. They are told that Runway 1 is active runway

0133Z    8992.0    ? 801 p/p via Andrews HF-GCS to 757-XXX-XXXX Virginia with No Joy

0201Z    5320.0    ANDVT

1450Z    8983.0    CG 2136 (HU-25) airborne from Mobile with 5 POB requests guard from CAMSLANT

1739Z    8983.0    B6D airborne from R8R with 5 POB requests guard from CAMSLANT

ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: A97, CS3, CS5, CS6, CS9, D69, F12, I37, I54, I62, J19, J25, J36, J37, LNT, NOJ, OPB, PAC

ALE addresses monitored on USAF ALE: 510314, 523578, ADW, HAW, IKF, JNR, MCC, OFF




Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

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From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Mon Jul 26 21:19:16 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Mon Jul 26 21:46:50 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Charleston AFB Logs 26 July 04
Message-ID: <011901c4737b$1178fd50$0fd84fd8@Marks>

349.400 Charleston CP
------------------------
REACH 1192 departing 0135z
REACH 1190
REACH 546 (C-5B)
GRITS 19
PALM 91


306.925 Approach
--------------------
TRUMP 61 (F-16CJ, 77 FS)


239.000 Tower
-----------------
TRUMP 61 (F-16CJ, 77 FS)


379.100 JAX CTR
---------------------
REACH 1192
NICKEL 33


279.725 Doubleshot
----------------------
CUSTER 11 (F-16CJ, 55 FS)


269.000 Gamecock
----------------------
CUSTER 11-14 (F-16CJ, 55 FS)


279.550 Discrete
------------------------------
CAESAR 41 (F-16CJ, 77 FS)


257.950 Myrtle Beach Approach
-----------------------------------
CAESAR 41 (F-16CJ, 77 FS)
TRUMP 61 (F-16CJ, 77 FS)


327.600 AR-202
-------------------
LIFTER 20 AR w/PACK 83 (KC-135, 157 ARW)



Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
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From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Mon Jul 26 21:42:27 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Mon Jul 26 21:47:08 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF Logs 26 July 04
Message-ID: <011c01c4737b$20fd0140$0fd84fd8@Marks>

0002Z    5732.0    25C airborne with 6 POV en route Papa Sector. Position bearing 026, 22 miles from Kilo Sector. Requests guard from PANTHER

0104Z    7527.0    25C bearing 006 from Kilo Sector en route to Zulu Sector

0106Z    4372.0    GIANTKILLER, F (trigraph E3A), M (trigraph 5AW), G, and K in Link Coord net

0148Z    4721.0    REACH 7173 p/p via Andrews HF-GCS to Dover AFB CP and Meteo

0234Z    8992.0    ROCCO 85 (KC-135, 108 ARW) p/p via Puerto Rico HF-GCS to DSN 650-2127 TORCH CONTROL

1939Z    8971.0    WAFER 25 wkg GOLDENHAWK followed by ANDVT

2337Z    8983.0    CG 2131 (HU-25) airborne from Miami with 5 POB for training


ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: 717, A21, CS3, CS6, CS9, I54, J19, J24, LNT, M46, MUG, OPB, X60

ALE addresses monitored on PANTHER/FBI Nets: AT1, CL1, CO1, HQ1, IP1, ME1, OM2, PNR400, QT2, SI1, SJ1, SL1, WF1




Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
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https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
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From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Mon Jul 26 22:23:06 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Mon Jul 26 22:26:42 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 26 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <c8.4a6d1718.2e37168a@aol.com>

Busier than expected. Mostly overhead stuff.

121.00:  JOSA-037, (C-21A), land; then on to Chicago Midway.
319.00:  CLAW-11, flight of 4, (F-16, Shaw), with Denver Center, FL 330. 
Switch 354.15.
319.00:  CLAW-21, flight of 4, (F-16, Shaw), with Denver Center. Switch 
377.05.
291.675: DEMO-01, flight of 2, (F-15), land; then on to Tinker. Requested 
unrestricted climb to FL 450 on takeoff. Very good "demo" indeed.
289.40:  BANZAI-1, (Unk), fly-by AF Academy; then depart to the southwest on 
379.95 with Denver Center.
275.80:  TACO-91, (F-16C, NM-ANG), cleared to Cheyenne, (WY)
372.20:  SMOKY-84, (C-21A, peterson), land Colorado Springs.
239.025: HORNET-01, (F/A-18, Unk), land Colorado Springs. Later heard 
westbound with Denver Center on 319.00.
372.20:  JOSA-187, (C-21A), takeoff Colorado Springs.
372.20:  HERC-82, (C-130, OH-ANG), request pp Mansfield-Lahm. Pass ETA.
319.00:  TARBOX-01, (F/A-18C, VFA-82, Beaufort), with Denver Center, FL 430. 
Descending to FL 270 and switching Grand Junction Approach 327.80
298.40:  SUMMIT-24, (C-130, Peterson), land Colorado Springs.
372.20:  REACH 018, (C-21A, Scott), land Colorado Springs.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From mystic at ikansas.com  Mon Jul 26 22:11:27 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Mon Jul 26 23:31:16 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	26 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <000801c47389$a45d2ca0$80cb2740@u5a3b0>

316.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE PRIMARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
1908Z - WIZARD de CZAR-82, 133/21

269.500 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
1926Z - CZAR-82

296.600  (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
1750Z - DUKE-21

277.400 (KZKC SPRINGFIELD)
1511Z - CZAR-81 copies all
1512Z - DEATH-11 copies all

257.850 (KZKC SOUTHEAST KANSAS HIGH DISCRETE)
2032Z - CZAR-82

307.200 (KZKC HASTINGS)
1748Z - DUKE-21

133.925 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
0059Z - NAVY JU-878

135.100 (KZMP HASTINGS)
1522Z - TOPCAT-38
1526Z - GASSER-65 accepts MARSA w/ TOPCAT-38
1619Z - TOPCAT-38 FL 2XX & has terminated AR OPNS w/ GASSER

297.300 (PAWNEE-LAMONI AR TRACK PRIMARY)
1504Z - HAPPY-51 (571494) conduct AR OPNS w/ COBRA-62 (6102662)
1515Z - GASSER-65 co-ordinating to conduct AR OPNS w/ TOPCAT-38

343.500 (AR-016)
1535Z - HAPPY-51 w/ JET-45

366.300 (AR-116)
1653Z - ________-23 conducts AR OPNS w/ ________-33.  610039 & 61002 passed

326.200 (KEND APP)
1758Z - DUKE-22

311.000 (COMMAND POST)
1528Z - CHEETAH-45 w/ _________
1534Z - HAPPY-51 w/ JEST-45, go AR PRINMARY 343.5
1534Z - TURBO-42 w/ __________

233.700 (TACAMO KOFF)
2049Z - ICEHOUSE de SHADO-88, 30 minutes out, need 2 B-4 stands & 2
powercarts

370.100 (TACAMO)
2026Z (NFM) modem & voice

390.550 (NAOC / TACAMO)
2026Z (NFM) shrill high-pitched tone

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From n1dt at netzero.com  Mon Jul 26 23:28:06 2004
From: n1dt at netzero.com (n1dt@netzero.com)
Date: Mon Jul 26 23:33:29 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Boeing 57A
Message-ID: <20040726.202906.10767.88394@webmail04.nyc.untd.com>


Got a rare lunch break today and caught Boeing 57A calling Tassel on 322.2 and Lockheed ops on 123.575. ASD showed this acft circled over Navy Ft Worth at FL270 for at least an hour and landed at NFW aprx 2000z.

D Tran
Arlington, TX

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From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Mon Jul 26 23:36:12 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Mon Jul 26 23:39:51 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Boeing 57A
Message-ID: <1a3.273dd7ce.2e3727ac@aol.com>

D Tran,

I'd say this was probably the Boeing 757 Testbed (Not positive though.) that 
has conducted flight tests with the main fuselage,wings, etc.. of the F/A-22.  
The jet may be doing the same with the F-35 and that's why you caught him 
into NFW.

Adam
Marietta,Ga
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Mon Jul 26 23:42:39 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Mon Jul 26 23:46:52 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/26/04
Message-ID: <1d2.26ee89f8.2e37292f@aol.com>

The usual Monday here.

GATOR-13 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta, VMFA-142) 370.875>239.275, takeoff Dobbins. 
(Return around 1730z)

PAT-968 (??) 120.75>121.0>125.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to MiamI..

GATOR-11 flight of 2 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta, VMFA-142) 346.8, lands Dobbins.

NAVY JS-485 (C-9, NAS Atlanta, VR-46) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins.

ARMY-90104 (UC-35) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Augusta 
(KAGS). (Return around 2100z)

COBB-50 flight of 2 (C-130, Dobbins, 94th AW) 134.125, lands Dobbins.

NAVY 7B-504 (UC-12, NAS Atlanta) 134.125, lands Dobbins.

ARMY-90103 (UC-35, 2-228th AVN) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Augusta (KAGS). (Return around 2105z)

RED DOG-31 (UH-1, NAS Atlanta, HMLA-773) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

EASY-40 (UC-35, NAS JRB New Orleans) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Later depart, 
Cleared to Navy New Orleans (KNBG))

AMBUSH-37 (F/A-18) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

JOSA-976 (C-21, Peterson?) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Depart around 0200z, 
Cleared to Colorado Springs (KCOS))
---------------------------------------------
CLAW-21 (F-16?) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 363.1>236.7, FL 350
REACH-8049 (??) w/ Charleston CP (349.4) 21 pax to offload.
GRITS-19 (C-17, Charleston, 437th AW) w/ Atlanta? Dispatch (372.2) looking 
for a FSS freq (He said ATL Dispatch when he checked-in, Not sure if he was 
calling Hartsfield or what).
----------------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga

From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Tue Jul 27 00:03:48 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Tue Jul 27 00:07:34 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Boeing 57A
In-Reply-To: <20040726.202906.10767.88394@webmail04.nyc.untd.com>
References: <20040726.202906.10767.88394@webmail04.nyc.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4105D424.80907@verizon.net>

Boeing 57A is N757A, based at Boeing Field, Seattle and used for F-22 
avionics testing and probably other stuff. About a month ago they were 
flying around Seattle testing their satcom radios and a few times have 
heard them conducting IFDL (Inter/Intra Flight Data Link) and CNI 
(Communications/Navigation/Identification) test conditions. They also 
use callsign RAPTOR 57 when talking to their flight test associates.
Here's a picture:
http://microvoltradio.com/images/raptor57.jpg



Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA




n1dt@netzero.com wrote:

>Got a rare lunch break today and caught Boeing 57A calling Tassel on 322.2 and Lockheed ops on 123.575. ASD showed this acft circled over Navy Ft Worth at FL270 for at least an hour and landed at NFW aprx 2000z.
>
>D Tran
>Arlington, TX
>
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From unanmatt at aol.com  Tue Jul 27 00:39:56 2004
From: unanmatt at aol.com (unanmatt@aol.com)
Date: Tue Jul 27 00:43:40 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Central Louisiana
Message-ID: <9f.4a98b1ee.2e37369c@aol.com>

HI all,

I've had time to monitor these last few months, but work has left me short of 
time to type them up. Anyway, noted today.

261536Z JUL 04 RANGE CONTROL on 40.950 with various comms

261552Z JUL 04 NASA 921 T-38N N921NA NASA Johnson on POLK APP 132.050 into 
AEX. Departed to Whiteman AFB.

261556Z JUL 04 RANGE CONTROL on 367.600 testing comms

261601Z JUL 04 KILO 54 OH-58C (69-16326) JRTC on POLK TWR 119.000 departing 
Polk.

261626Z JUL 04 POISON 82 T-38C 14th FTW 50th FTS CB on HOUSTON CTR 335.650

261632Z JUL 04 BOBO? 61 on HOUSTON CTR 363.050 to 235.650 to 251.15

261700Z JUL 04 COBRA 66 poss 46th TW? on HOUSTON CTR 363.050

261718Z JUL 04 SUN 81 prob T-38C on HOUSTON CTR 363.050 to353.85 direct 
Tinker AFB

261730Z JUL 04 BULL 91 calling RAYMOND 06 on 311.000nothing more heard

261858Z JUL 04 HOIST 49 KC-10A 305th AMW calling RAYMOND 06 on 311.000 
passing message on arrival time to Nellis AFB at 0040Z. He was towing some chicks 
but I never heard them call.

262011Z JUL 04 various A2A comms on 384.550 (PISTOL?)

262036Z JUL 04 SKULL 25 B-52H 20th BS calling MUDBUG CONTROL 311.000 with 
number 4 engine shut down. Burning off fuel between Alexandria and Monroe VOR's 
for 3 hours. Told they would monitor BLUE OPS COMMON. Also on 387.15 (Monroe 
APP) and 226.5 (Polk APP).

262042Z JUL 04  unknown flight of 2xF-15's on PTD 372.200 inbound?, diverting 
for fuel. To KBAD?

That is about it.

Matt Ellis
Alexandria, Louisiana
From larry at grove-ent.com  Tue Jul 27 10:15:46 2004
From: larry at grove-ent.com (Larry Van Horn)
Date: Tue Jul 27 10:19:59 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Boeing 57A
In-Reply-To: <20040726.202906.10767.88394@webmail04.nyc.untd.com>
Message-ID: <000701c473e4$3d8153c0$8301a8c0@groveent.com>

Super catch DT. That frequency is one of my infamous Milair spectrum
holes (nothing ever heard on it before/no official assignment has been
seen on it). Given what you monitored I would keep a very close eye on
that one and would appreciate ANY info you hear on that one. This one
one based on what was reported that other Milcom monitors might want to
slip into one of their memory locations.

A significant find for sure. For those of you who are MT Milcom column
regulars, see my April 2004 column.

Larry Van Horn, N5FPW USN (Ret)
Monitoring Times Assistant Editor and Milcom Columnist
WUN Military/Government Newsletter Columnist
Grove Enterprises Technical Support Department
Telephone: V-828-837-9200/F-828-837-2216/800-438-8155


-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [MilCom] Boeing 57A



Got a rare lunch break today and caught Boeing 57A calling Tassel on
322.2 and Lockheed ops on 123.575. ASD showed this acft circled over
Navy Ft Worth at FL270 for at least an hour and landed at NFW aprx
2000z.

D Tran
Arlington, TX

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From mystic at ikansas.com  Tue Jul 27 19:44:51 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Tue Jul 27 20:44:43 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	27 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <000d01c4743b$76e30b20$26cb2740@u5a3b0>

316.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE PRIMARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
1610Z - LOBO-41 & LOBO-42
1621Z - SCALP-93 & SCALP-94
1718Z - CASINO-05 w/ SCALP-93 & SMOKY
1720Z - CASINO-05 & CASINO-06
1922Z - CYCLONE-01 & CYCLONE-02 play w/ SANDHOG; push UNIFORM-17
1957Z - WIZARD de DRAGNET, can we play?
2041Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT; Push 13

304.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE SECONDARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
1705Z - WIZARD de MIKE-05

363.200 (KZKC SALINA)
1720Z - CASINO-05
1741Z - SCALP-93
1954Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT IFR DES MOINES (UNIFORM-17)
2049Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT RTB SOUIX FALLS (UNIFORM-13)

285.400 (KZKC EMPORIA)
1747Z - DUKE-15
1806Z - DUKE-21
2114Z - BATT-71 FLIGHT in the BLOCK 26 - 270
2116Z - DUKE-21 push 263.1

269.500 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
0137Z - CZAR-84 FL 350

360.850 (KZKC NORTHEAST KANSAS HIGH DISCRETE)
0143Z - CZAR-84 FL 330
2108Z - BATT-71, flight of 3, in the BLOCK 260 - 270

323.150 (KZKC SEDALIA)
0152Z - CZAR-84 out of 330 for 190

327.000 (KZKC BUTLER)
2304Z - BISON-54

296.600 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
1809Z - DUKE-21
1957Z - CYCLONE-01
2051Z - LOBO-11 cleared to FL 330

134.900 (KZKC SALINA)
1753Z - GASSER-65
1753Z - WYLIE-21

139.700 (114th FW SDANG; SOUIX FALLS, SOUTH DAKOTA: VICTOR-13)
2041Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT

138.200 (132nd FW IAANG; DES MOINES, IOWA: VICTOR-12)
1922Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT

343.500 (AR-016)
0145Z - JAYHAWK-33 co-ordinating w/ JET-75 prior to commencing AR OPNS.  33
set 93-YANKEE & 75 set 30-YANKEE

297.300 (PAWNEE-LAMONI AR TRACK PRIMARY)
0045Z - OKIE-12 co-ordinating w/ CORVUS-58 prior to conducting AR OPNS

366.300 (AR-116)
1635Z - ______-44 conduct AR OPNS w/ MIKE-11.  MIKE-11 rqst UHF freq. 44
gave 269.4

260.200 (MULTIPLE AR SECONDARY)
1638Z - KANZA-38 de ____
1640Z - WYLIE-21 de MIKE-13, you should be scheduled for a 1700Z AR w/
MIKE-14 being that
MIKE-12 did not get airborne.
1730Z - GASSER-65

326.200 (KEND APP)
1911Z - HYDRA-25 going ATIS
1916Z - HYDRA-21

385.550 (KICT APP - DEP)
2042Z - (sounded like) SMOKY-15

126.700 (KICT APP - DEP)
2148Z - VANCE-94

375.200 (KIAB METRO)
1629Z - JOSA-884

311.000 (COMMAND POST)
0110Z - RAYMOND-21 de JET-75, rqst you check status of JAYHAWK-33
1807Z - MIKE-18 de MIKE-15 on 311
2115Z - RAYMOND-21 de HOIST-49, rqst pp to DSN 650-3992,  Rg switch to 321.0
2122Z - RAYMOND-21 de HOIST-49 on 311 standing by.  Recommended alternate is
ANDREWS.  OK rqst 1 more pp before I lose you.  Rg, switching 321.0

321.000 (COMMAND POST)
0320Z - SHOCKER MAINT de KANZA-36; 20 minutes out; 1 write-up (5-FOXTROT) &
BRAVO-03 for parking
0414Z - SHOCKER MAINT de TURBO-27; 30 minutes out; CODE-2; 1st write-up:
autopilot disengaged three times in flight; 2nd write-up: (lost signal)
0441Z - SHOCKER CONTROL de TURBO-32; 30 minutes out; will be in pattern for
approx next hour & half
2117Z - RAYMOND-21 de HOIST-49 standing by; McGUIRE METRO de HOIST-49,
suitable alternate & weather forecast around 2340Z.....McGUIRE METRO, you
are coming in broken.  RAYMOND-21, I did not get anything plse relay what
she said.  RAYMOND-21, I did not get anything plse relay what she said. Rg
switching to 311
2130Z - McGUIRE CMD POST de HOIST-49 ETA 2340Z, rqst coordination be
implemented for us to weather-divert to ANDREWS if needed.  RAYMOND-21 you
can terminate that pp.

381.300 (COMMAND POST)
2120Z - _______ de BATT-71
2126Z - BATT-73, negative brevities CODE-1; BATT-71 FLIGHT copies all

368.250 (MID-CONUS TACAMO)
1634Z (NFM) modem & voice

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CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From jmayson at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 20:55:51 2004
From: jmayson at gmail.com (jmayson@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Jul 27 21:04:16 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Election Day CAP flights?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.55.0407271953250.3141@localhost.localdomain>

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Hash: SHA1

Okay, this is 98 days away (and CANNOT come soon enough... I'm sick of the
politicking).  Does anyone know if there will be CAP flights up on
Election Day?  Has the government announced anything?

I'm assuming President Bush will be here in Austin (probably will spend
the day in Crawford, will vote, then Marine One it down here).  I'm
guessing Boston will see the same for Kerry.  But what about other cities?

- -- 
John Mayson <jmayson@gmail.com>
Austin, Texas, USA

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From mikef at ohioscan.com  Tue Jul 27 21:38:26 2004
From: mikef at ohioscan.com (OHIOSCAN)
Date: Tue Jul 27 21:42:13 2004
Subject: [MilCom] vhf\uhf
Message-ID: <000f01c47443$948a9f00$6600a8c0@DESKTOP>



07\09\04
142.125 ACM
142.600 UNID 24
269.000 INDY ARTCC w/STINGS
285.425 CLE ARTCC w/HAWKEYE 81
379.200 CLE ARTCC w/STINGS

07\14\04
138.950 NODAKS
139.300 UNID
139.850 YALTAS
148.525 YALTAS
290.425 CLEARTCC w/NODAK 06
342.500 BATAAN 56(C-130) w/SELFRIDGE
344.600 NODAKS w/WPAFB Meteo
346.300 INDY ARTCC w/NODAK 06
363.025 INDY ARTCC w/NODAKS
363.200 INDY ARTCC w/NODAKS
372.200 JOSA 885

07\15\4
139.550 UNID 178th ACM
141.700 UNID 178th ACM
141.750 NODAKS?
311.000 STEEL 61 w/STEEL OPS
335.525 CLE ARTCC w/FAST 61
342.500 REACH 6021(C-5B) req Selfridge forward pp\ETA to Campell AAF
344.600 KING 12 w/WPAFB
351.850 CLE

07\16\04
139.300 UNID
139.550 UNID
140.425 KONGS
269.000 INDY ARTCC w/KONG 01
303.950 UNID discussing CLE AIRSHOW
323.200 CLE ARTCC w/DEMO 51
344.600 OPEC 80 
349.400 OPEC 80 clg BUCKEYE CONTROL


07\19\04
138.175 UNID
139.300 UNID C-26? "Possible new JOSA CP at WPAFB"
139.625 FAST?62
139.975 STING 41
346.300 UNID coord AR-637 w/TURBO 70 (KC-135)
353.525 CLE ARTCC w/SCALP 99
378.100 REACH 451T clg SAM CP

07\24\04
143.925 CHEVYS
148.525 CHEVYS w/QUARTERBACK
369.900 CHEVYS

07\26\04
122.925 NASA w/NASA 
139.550 UNID ACM
139.850 DEMONS
141.700 UNID 178th
143.425 UNID 178th
148.525 DEMONS w/QUARTERBACK
290.425 CLE ARTCC w/DEMON 11

07\27\04
138.350 ACM COMMON UNID 178th FS
138.425 STINGS
139.550 UNID
139.625 STING 12 flt
139.850 TAJAS
139.975 STINGS
141.600 STINGS
141.700 UNID ACM 178th FS
142.125 UNID ACM 178th FS
143.850 STINGS w/BEEHIVE
143.925 DEMONS
251.125 CLE ARTCC w/STINGS
255.400 MIL LEAR 35 dep GRB enroute Andrews
269.525 CLE ARTCC w/STINGS
283.800 UNID
285.625 CLE ARTCC w/STINGS
290.425 CLE ARTCC w/DEMON
294.800 UNID CORONET AR, passed 291.675 as CLE ARTCC, "new to me"
301.600 UNID 178th COORD ACM
311.000 STEEL 72 w/STEEL CONTROL
338.900 STINGS w/BEEHIVE
344.600 BOLT 82 clg meteo
349.400 STEEL 72 clg STEEL CONTROL

==================
Ohioscan & DX'ing Site
www.Ohioscan.com
admin@Ohioscan.com
==================
From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Tue Jul 27 22:25:07 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Tue Jul 27 22:29:00 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 27 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <1ef.26526ec4.2e386883@aol.com>

A pretty slow one today.

372.20:  JOSA-884, (C-21A), takeoff Colorado Springs.
372.20:  DILLON-1, (C-21A, CO-ANG), takeoff Colorado Springs.
372.20:  DILLON-2, (C-21A, CO-ANG), takeoff Colorado Springs.
372.20:  SPACE-1, (C-21A), takeoff Colorado Springs.
275.80:  REDEYE-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out for 2 sorties 
Cheyenne MOA.
275.80:  STUD-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out for 2 sorties 
Airburst Range.
319.00:  BATT-71, flight of 3, (B-2A, Whiteman), with Denver Center, in the 
Block 310-330. Request new routing via Pueblo, Tobe, Dalhart, Garden City and 
then as filed. Switch 354.15.
228.45:  HOIST-49, (KC-10A, McGuire), request WX McGuire 0000Z and 
Wright-Patt 0040Z.
228.45:  HOIST-48, (KC-10A, McGuire), request WX McGuire 2330Z.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From rfinder1 at verizon.net  Tue Jul 27 22:30:44 2004
From: rfinder1 at verizon.net (Ken)
Date: Tue Jul 27 22:34:23 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Election Day CAP flights?
References: <Pine.LNX.4.55.0407271953250.3141@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <007101c4744a$e29f5030$6501a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>

Of course there will be CAP flights that day, Austin & Boston will be for
sure, the rest would be anyones guess.. I would assume that there would be
more concern with ground threats to voting locations, perhaps the Army
National Guard will also get activiated so some of the ground & tactical air
low band VHF FM freqs will also be in use...

BTW for those folks interested in the entire Boston DNC radio activity go
over to Scan-Mass-East on yahoogroups.com & signed in...  Never seen so many
posts... Unbelievable number of agencies, police etc. radio systems involved
in securing the DNC area.

Ken



----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jmayson@gmail.com>
To: "MilCom list" <milcom@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:55 PM
Subject: [MilCom] Election Day CAP flights?
 Does anyone know if there will be CAP flights up on
> Election Day?  Has the government announced anything?
>


From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Tue Jul 27 23:07:13 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Tue Jul 27 23:11:28 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Charleston AFB Logs 27 July 04
Message-ID: <001601c47450$0befb100$52db4fd8@Marks>

349.400 Charleston CP
------------------------
REACH 4060 inbound 0005z
LIFTER 95
IMPAC 88
MOOSE 42
REACH 146
GRITS 03
REACH 456
REACH 5102 inbound 2219z, A2, 54 PAX. Req. Customs & Ag.
REACH 457 (C-5B # 84-0060) departing 2239z
REACH 6006 inbound 2316z, 11 pallets, 48 PAX. Req. Customs, Ag, and Immigration
LIFTER 91
GRITS 93


381.350 Doubleshot
---------------------
VEGAS 42 (F-16CJ, 77 FS)


279.725 Doubleshot
----------------------
GAMBLER xx (F-16CJ, 77 FS)
CLAW 71 (F-16CJ, 79 FS)


258.400 Doubleshot
---------------------
TIGER xx


269.000 Gamecock
---------------------
JACKPOT 51-54 (F-16CJ, 77 FS)
JAKE 81 (F-16CJ)
VIPER 11 (F-16CJ, 157 FS)


348.900 AR-600
-------------------
TIGER 71-74 (F-16CJ, 79 FS)


243.000 MAD
---------------
JAX CTR for ATTIC 75 (F/A-18D, VMFA-332)


264.700 Poinsett
------------------
JACKPOT 61 (F-16CJ, 77 FS)


311.200 Shooter Ops
-----------------------
SHOOTER 22 (F-16CJ, 55 FS)




Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
http://www.wunclub.com/files/uscg_air.html
https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Tue Jul 27 23:28:04 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Tue Jul 27 23:31:48 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/27/04
Message-ID: <1e4.261fbf2a.2e387744@aol.com>

Above average for a Tues.

NAVY JS-266 (C-9, NAS Atlanta, VR-46) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. (Return 
later. Later depart around 1845z, Cleared to Huntsville (KHSV) return around 
2000z)

COBB-50 flight of # (C-130, Dobbins, 94th AW) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff 
Dobbins. Cleared to Augusta (KAGS). (Return later.)

ARMY-90103 (UC-35, 2-228th AVN) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. (Return 
later.)

GUARD-21857 (UH-1, Dobbins, 1-171st AVN) 120.75>121.0>126.975, takeoff 
Dobbins. Cleared to Columbia.

POISON-16 (T-38, Columbus, 14th FTW) 346.8, lands Dobbins. (Later depart 
around 1630z as POISON-11, Cleared to Columbus))

NAVY JS-485 (C-9, NAS Atlanta, VR-46) 134.125, lands Dobbins. (Later work GCA 
pattern as JS-529 for about 2hrs then in for the night, 0050z)

ARMY-90104 (UC-35) 120.75>121.0>133.1,takeoff Dobbins. (Return later.)

MARINE BH-736 (KC-130J, MCAS Cherry Point, VMGR-252) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

ASCOT-5953 (C-130, RAF) 134.125, lands Dobbins.

RED DOG-21 (UH-1, NAS Atlanta, HMLA-773) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins. (Return 
later.)

PAT-373 (??) 120.75>121.0>119.8, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Miami.

GUARD-16299 (UH-1?) 120.75, takeoff Dobbins. (Return later.)

NAVY 7B-924 (UC-12, NAS Atlanta) 134.125, lands Dobbins.

GUARD-15269 (UH-1, Dobbins, 1-171st AVN) 120.75,  (Working pattern throughout 
the evening.)

OTIS-15 (KC-130, MCAS Cherry Point, VMGR-252) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Depart 
around 2205z, Cleared to Cherry Point (KNKT))

COBB-84 (C-130, Dobbins, 94th AW) 120.75>121.0>125.7, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared to Biloxi/Keesler (KBIX)

COBB-30 (C-130, Dobbins, 94th AW) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Maxwell (KMXF). (Return around 0135z)

RIVER-01 (F/A-18, NAS JRB New Orleans, VFA-204) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Later 
depart around 0300z, Cleared to Navy New Orleans (KNBG) unlimited climb up to 
9k and the a/b's against the night sky, beautiful).

GUARD-26611 (UH-60, Dobbins?) 120.75, (Working Pattern for about an hr then 
back in, 0030z) 

EASY-40 (UC-35, NAS JRB New Orleans) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Later depart 
around 0105z, Cleared to Navy New Orleans (KNBG))
---------------------------------------------
JOSA-618 (C-21, # 84-0095) w/ Maxwell Dispatch (372.2) 4 pax onboard 1 
offload,A1.
JOSA-882 (C-21) calling Shaw Dispatch (372.2) with no reply.
ARMY-23327 (??) w/ Atlanta Appr; 121.0
---------------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga
From n1dt at netzero.com  Wed Jul 28 00:45:07 2004
From: n1dt at netzero.com (n1dt@netzero.com)
Date: Wed Jul 28 00:49:32 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Boeing 57A
Message-ID: <20040727.214524.2832.101967@webmail22.nyc.untd.com>


I concurred this is the bird...he came in from BFI and asked ATC for 1 hour plus orbit over NFW....couldn't find out what they talked about on 322.2...had to go back to work.

D Tran
Arlington, TX

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From AllanStern at aol.com  Wed Jul 28 01:02:37 2004
From: AllanStern at aol.com (AllanStern@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 28 01:06:26 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Patrick AFB Area Log - Tues, 27 July 2004
Message-ID: <1e9.261555be.2e388d6d@aol.com>

         Tues, 27 July 2004

MAKO 11: F-16C, Homestead JARB AFRC 482FW 93FS, "Makos"
9:57am: Arrives Avon Park Bombing Range.
[307.1, 292.2, 285.725, 138.125, 370.9]

ASCOT 5952: C-130, Royal Air Force, UK
10:25am: Departs Patrick AFB to Exuma in Bahamas. 
[118.4, 133.75, 132.65, 133.475]

REACH 6022: C-5 #86-0022, Travis AFB 60AMW
10:30am: Inbound MacDill AFB; 30 pax; rqsts 70-80,000 pounds fuel.
[311.0 Lightning Ops]

SILVERHAWK 01: YL pilot (Mil? Civ?)
10:32am: Southbound transition, descending FL240 to 17,000.
[119.825, 132.15]

AKULA 31: F-16C, Homestead JARB AFRC 482FW 93FS, "Makos"
10:35am: Working at Avon Park Bombing Range.
[292.2, 141.9; 307.1, 290.325, 354.1, 303.15]

SHARKs 21, 22: F-16C, Homestead JARB AFRC 482FW 93FS, "Makos"
10:45pm: Working at Avon Park Bombing Range. 
[292.2, 139.8, 307.1, 281.5]

ICE
11:00am: Local op.
[165.2375]

BUDDHA 01, Flight of 3 F-16s, Donnelly Field AL-ANG 187FW
11:15pm: Works Avon Park Bombing Range for a while; one of the BUDDHAs 
annouced a hung bomb and was planning to come to Patrick to correct that situation.  
One of the SHARKs suggested that the BUDDHAs head to Homestead instead; 
BUDDHAs did.
12:06pm: Dep to Homestead JARB.
[292.2, 264.625, 307.1, 140.425]

FANGs: F-15s, Jacksonville IAP FL-ANG 125FW 159FS "Jaguars"
11:20pm: ACM
[234.8]

JOLLY 11: HH-60G, Patrick AFB 920RQW 301RQS
12:30pm: Departs Patrick.
2:10pm: Touch-and-goes at Patrick.
[133.75, 132.65, 132.25]

BRONCO 07: OV-10D, US State Dept Intl Narcotics Mission, Patrick AFB.
12:33pm: Departs Patrick.
[133.75]

ASCOT 5953: C-130, Royal Air Force, UK
1:54pm: Transition, northward.  
[119.825]
Adam reports 5953 lands Dobbins. Might be return flight for ASCOT 5952, see 
above at 10:25am.

NASA 4: G-1159 Gulfstream II NASA-KSC
2:45pm: Inbound Patrick.
[133.475]

SHARKs, MAKOs: F-16C, Homestead JARB AFRC 482FW 93FS, "Makos"
5:00pm: More acft working Avon Park Bombing Range.

CG 2136: HU-25A Falcon Jet, USCG-Mobile ATC
6:36pm: Area transition.

KING 70: HC-130P #65-0970: Patrick AFB 920RQW 39RQS
9:30pm: Live PJ drops in BamBam DZ; hurries last drop to beat incoming C-5 
into area.
10:00pm: AAR of JOLLY 11, 12.
[133.75, 251.9, 321.0] 

REACH 6023: C-5B #86-0023, Dover 436AW
9:55pm: Lands Patrick; RONs.
[132.65, 133.75]

JOLLY 11, 12: HH-60G, Patrick AFB 920RQW 301RQS
10:00pm: Air-air refueling by KING 70.
[321.0]

AL STERN  Satellite Beach FL  (28-11N  80-36W) monitoring
 Patrick AFB (KCOF)       NASA-KSC Shuttle Landing Fac (KX68)
 Avon Park Bombing Range (KAGR)   Cape Canaveral AFS (KXMR)
 JSTARS E-8 Acft Integration Facility, Melbourne IAP (KMLB)
 Worldwide Military HF Communications
 Life Member: Missile, Space and Range Pioneers.
 http://hometown.aol.com/allanstern/myhomepage/index.html (My Freqs)
 http://hometown.aol.com/scanaddict/index.html (My Equipment)
From AllanStern at aol.com  Wed Jul 28 01:03:20 2004
From: AllanStern at aol.com (AllanStern@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 28 01:07:09 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Patrick AFB Area Log - Tues, 27 July 2004
Message-ID: <6d.2f5789e0.2e388d98@aol.com>

         Tues, 27 July 2004

MAKO 11: F-16C, Homestead JARB AFRC 482FW 93FS, "Makos"
9:57am: Arrives Avon Park Bombing Range.
[307.1, 292.2, 285.725, 138.125, 370.9]

ASCOT 5952: C-130, Royal Air Force, UK
10:25am: Departs Patrick AFB to Exuma in Bahamas. 
[118.4, 133.75, 132.65, 133.475]

REACH 6022: C-5 #86-0022, Travis AFB 60AMW
10:30am: Inbound MacDill AFB; 30 pax; rqsts 70-80,000 pounds fuel.
[311.0 Lightning Ops]

SILVERHAWK 01: YL pilot (Mil? Civ?)
10:32am: Southbound transition, descending FL240 to 17,000.
[119.825, 132.15]

AKULA 31: F-16C, Homestead JARB AFRC 482FW 93FS, "Makos"
10:35am: Working at Avon Park Bombing Range.
[292.2, 141.9; 307.1, 290.325, 354.1, 303.15]

SHARKs 21, 22: F-16C, Homestead JARB AFRC 482FW 93FS, "Makos"
10:45pm: Working at Avon Park Bombing Range. 
[292.2, 139.8, 307.1, 281.5]

ICE
11:00am: Local op.
[165.2375]

BUDDHA 01, Flight of 3 F-16s, Donnelly Field AL-ANG 187FW
11:15pm: Works Avon Park Bombing Range for a while; one of the BUDDHAs 
annouced a hung bomb and was planning to come to Patrick to correct that situation.  
One of the SHARKs suggested that the BUDDHAs head to Homestead instead; 
BUDDHAs did.
12:06pm: Dep to Homestead JARB.
[292.2, 264.625, 307.1, 140.425]

FANGs: F-15s, Jacksonville IAP FL-ANG 125FW 159FS "Jaguars"
11:20pm: ACM
[234.8]

JOLLY 11: HH-60G, Patrick AFB 920RQW 301RQS
12:30pm: Departs Patrick.
2:10pm: Touch-and-goes at Patrick.
[133.75, 132.65, 132.25]

BRONCO 07: OV-10D, US State Dept Intl Narcotics Mission, Patrick AFB.
12:33pm: Departs Patrick.
[133.75]

ASCOT 5953: C-130, Royal Air Force, UK
1:54pm: Transition, northward.  
[119.825]
Adam reports 5953 lands Dobbins. Might be return flight for ASCOT 5952, see 
above at 10:25am.

NASA 4: G-1159 Gulfstream II NASA-KSC
2:45pm: Inbound Patrick.
[133.475]

SHARKs, MAKOs: F-16C, Homestead JARB AFRC 482FW 93FS, "Makos"
5:00pm: More acft working Avon Park Bombing Range.

CG 2136: HU-25A Falcon Jet, USCG-Mobile ATC
6:36pm: Area transition.

KING 70: HC-130P #65-0970: Patrick AFB 920RQW 39RQS
9:30pm: Live PJ drops in BamBam DZ; hurries last drop to beat incoming C-5 
into area.
10:00pm: AAR of JOLLY 11, 12.
[133.75, 251.9, 321.0] 

REACH 6023: C-5B #86-0023, Dover 436AW
9:55pm: Lands Patrick; RONs.
[132.65, 133.75]

JOLLY 11, 12: HH-60G, Patrick AFB 920RQW 301RQS
10:00pm: Air-air refueling by KING 70.
[321.0]

AL STERN  Satellite Beach FL  (28-11N  80-36W) monitoring
 Patrick AFB (KCOF)       NASA-KSC Shuttle Landing Fac (KX68)
 Avon Park Bombing Range (KAGR)   Cape Canaveral AFS (KXMR)
 JSTARS E-8 Acft Integration Facility, Melbourne IAP (KMLB)
 Worldwide Military HF Communications
 Life Member: Missile, Space and Range Pioneers.
From res0d8ng at verizon.net  Wed Jul 28 02:24:34 2004
From: res0d8ng at verizon.net (Matt Cawby)
Date: Wed Jul 28 02:28:39 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Seattle Milcom JULY 27
Message-ID: <410746A2.4020108@verizon.net>

NAS Whidbey arrivals 120.7, 270.8 Appr Ctl

MISTY 01
PUGET 11
MARLIN 92
VAMPIRE 81
RAYGUN 2
SKYBOLT 3
RAMPAGE 1


Misc

124.8 McChord AFB Tower. SONIC 01 low approach

256.8 Gray AAF Tower. COHO 45 wanted to transition R6703 to Point Salinas DZ

341.5 Point Salinas DZ. COHO 45 cleared to drop

291.6 Seattle Center. SKYBOLT 2 going to Okanogan MOA

HF 6761.0

DARK 01 tried to raise TURBO 11


Matt Cawby
Seattle, WA
Northwest Aircraft Communications
http://microvoltradio.com/

From jehaverlah at pdq.net  Wed Jul 28 10:00:23 2004
From: jehaverlah at pdq.net (Jeff Haverlah)
Date: Wed Jul 28 10:04:48 2004
Subject: [MilCom] MIL: 13155.0 - 0BEDIENT
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20040728085832.00a2e620@mail.pdq.net>

1358z  28 Jul 04

      13155.0 was active at 1343z with OBEDIENT (good levels here) bcsting 
a 28-character EAM (7DME45) and simulcasting same on 11244.0 (good), 8992.0 
(weak/fair) and 6697.0 (weak.)

      The same freqs (6697.0 unheard) were active at 1355z with 
same.  H+25/h+55 activity.

Jeff Haverlah

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Jeff Haverlah               Coastal Texas           jehaverlah@pdq.net
      Drake R7 (Gilfer Mod)  Drake R8B               Ten-Tec RX320/GNRX320
      Panasonic RFB-65       JPS NIR-12/ANC-4        "wires" and loops
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

From Rapbep at aol.com  Wed Jul 28 10:49:16 2004
From: Rapbep at aol.com (Rapbep@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 28 10:53:20 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 135th AS MD ANG
Message-ID: <1ec.26263e3c.2e3916ec@aol.com>

All,

It appears that the 135th AS (C-130J's) at Martin State airport have 
undergone a couple of changes. 

1. Earlier this spring they changed their callsign to Crab ## from their 
usual Witch ##.  Probably in honor of the Maryland Blue Crab for which this area 
is justifiably famous. Their special activity/"travelling" callsign was Mizzen, 
but it may have also gone away.

2. About the same time they changed their callsign, it appears that they may 
have also changed thier mission.  Lately, at least two of the aircraft (# 
97-1352 & 97-1354), have been flying airevac missions.  They have been flying from 
their home base at Martin State to Andrews, picking up medevac crew and 
patients and from Andrews flying missions to other bases. When flying evac missions 
they've been using callsigns Evac 71352 & Evac 71354.

I've only seen these two birds in evac missions so I can't say for sure if 
the other aircraft have also adopted a new mission. 

RON
MARYLAND, USA
PRO-2045 W/D-130J DISCONE
From jehaverlah at pdq.net  Wed Jul 28 11:39:32 2004
From: jehaverlah at pdq.net (Jeff Haverlah)
Date: Wed Jul 28 11:43:44 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 11244.0 - OBEDIENT
In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20040728085832.00a2e620@mail.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20040728103649.00a7ebb0@mail.pdq.net>

At 09:00 AM 7/28/04 -0500, Jeff Haverlah wrote:

>     13155.0 was active at 1343z with OBEDIENT (good levels here) bcsting 
> a 28-character EAM (7DME45) and simulcasting same on 11244.0 (good), 
> 8992.0 (weak/fair) and 6697.0 (weak.)
>
>      The same freqs (6697.0 unheard) were active at 1355z with 
> same.  H+25/h+55 activity.


      OBEDIENT remained active with same through 1525z, now at weaker levels.

      11244.0 was active at 1533z with OBEDIENT (fair/weak) bcsting a 
28-character EAM (7DJ7IP) and simulcasting same on at least 8992.0 (weak to 
unheard) with nothing heard on 6697.0 or 13155.0.  Stepped on at 1534z by 
OFFUTT with a 20-character EAM (64BAQI) "FOR REGION CHARLIE."

Jeff Haverlah

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Jeff Haverlah               Coastal Texas           jehaverlah@pdq.net
      Drake R7 (Gilfer Mod)  Drake R8B               Ten-Tec RX320/GNRX320
      Panasonic RFB-65       JPS NIR-12/ANC-4        "wires" and loops
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

From Rapbep at aol.com  Wed Jul 28 12:30:02 2004
From: Rapbep at aol.com (Rapbep@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 28 12:33:57 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Heads Up Mid-Atlantic/Southeast
Message-ID: <9d.4b6d66bf.2e392e8a@aol.com>

All,

At 1625Z caught Dragnet Uniform (E-3B AWACS, Tinker AFB) working w/Northern 
Lights on AICC (364.2).

Dragnet Uniform was reporting that they would be leaving station at 1645Z and 
returning to Dover AFB. Uniform stated that they would be working out of 
Dover for the rest of the week.

Their sked for tomorrow (Thurs) was to depart Dover at 1230Z and head down to 
area AW702 where they would work from 1300-1600Z then RTB Dover.

RON
MARYLAND, USA
PRO-2045 W/D-130J DISCONE
From markbutler at adelphia.net  Wed Jul 28 15:02:00 2004
From: markbutler at adelphia.net (markbutler@adelphia.net)
Date: Wed Jul 28 15:05:53 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Sanford North Carolina Visit...
Message-ID: <20040728190200.CDWM2023.mta9.adelphia.net@mail.adelphia.net>

Hello,

I will be visiting Sanford North Carolina this weekend and it occurred to me to take my scanner along. I'm wondering if anyone knows of any HF/UHF/VHF frequencies that I could monitor???

Right now, I don't get too much milair up hear in Cleveland and was hoping that NC might be better...

73's and Take Care,
Mark
KC8WLZ
Cleveland, Ohio

From markbutler at adelphia.net  Wed Jul 28 15:05:14 2004
From: markbutler at adelphia.net (markbutler@adelphia.net)
Date: Wed Jul 28 15:09:07 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Sanford North Carolina Visit...
Message-ID: <20040728190514.CFUY2023.mta9.adelphia.net@mail.adelphia.net>

Hello,

I will be visiting Sanford North Carolina this weekend and it occurred to me to take my scanner along. I'm wondering if anyone knows of any HF/UHF/VHF frequencies that I could monitor???

Right now, I don't get too much milair up hear in Cleveland and was hoping that NC might be better...

73's and Take Care,
Mark
KC8WLZ
Cleveland, Ohio

From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Wed Jul 28 16:34:04 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Wed Jul 28 16:38:49 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF Logs 27 July 04
Message-ID: <017201c474e2$575c3c70$86d84fd8@Marks>

0029Z    10993.6    ANDVT

0048Z    11494.0    JULIET 38 requests guard from CAMSLANT

0121Z    5320.0    ANDVT

2317Z    9007.0    CANFORCE 3025 wkg TRENTON MILITARY for message relay to 412 Squadron

2329Z    5696.0    CAMSLANT wkg CG 2118 (HU-25, ATC Mobile) to pass request from District 8 that they divert to position 27-34N 086-59W 167 miles south of Panama City and locate and establish comms with the vessel AUSTIN T. Crew member on vessel has an arm injury 

ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: 704, 717, CS2, CS3, CS6, CS9, D49, F41, I75, J37, J38, LNT, M46, PAC

ALE addresses monitored on FBI/PANTHER net: CO1, HQ1, IP1, NF1, PNR400, QT2, RH1, SI1, SJ1, SL1, WF1




Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
http://www.wunclub.com/files/uscg_air.html
https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From Rapbep at aol.com  Wed Jul 28 18:38:03 2004
From: Rapbep at aol.com (Rapbep@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 28 18:41:56 2004
Subject: [MilCom] DC Area Logs, 28 Jul 04
Message-ID: <d6.10614f94.2e3984cb@aol.com>


1. ANDREWS AFB (KADW): 
[Tower (118.4/349.0); CP (141.55;378.1); PTD (122.85; 372.2): Potomac 
TRACON/Reagan National APP/DEP(119.3;335.5;124.2;118.95;119.85;125.65)] 

HOME BASED:

WAMO 11 (Bell helo)- approaches.
Marine 317 (C-12, MASD)- land
Mussel 1, 3, 5, 6 (UH-1s, 1st Helo Sqdn)- local area ops. Also w/Mussel 
Control (292.2)
DC 92 (KC-135R, 459th ARW)- depart.
Angel 91 (F-18, VMFA-321)-w/ZDC (281.4) then land--returning from out of area 
flight.
Army 053 (UC-35 # 01053, OSACOM Det)- depart. returned about 2 hours later.
Pacer 09 (C-21 457th AS)- approaches.
Venus 81 (VC-9 # 73-1681, 99th AS)- depart.
Boxer 52 (C-38/C-40A, 201st ALS DC ANG)- approaches.
Venus 26 (C-20 # 86-206, 99th AS)- land.
Ravage 1 flight (2 X F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG)- w/SOF (139.9) w/wx PIREP then 
w/Baltimore (314.725). Also on sqdn freq (139.35).
Navy 395 (C-12, AOD)- depart
Bully flight (3 X F-16s 121st FS DC ANG)- on sqdn freq (127.275).
Angel 31 flight (3 X F-18s, VMFA-321)- on sqdn freq (243.6) in ACM training.
Navy 692 (C-20D # 163692, VR-1)- approaches.
Navy 7N309 (C-12, AOD)- land.
Army 70049 (VC-37 # 97-0049, OSACOM Det)- depart.
DC 32 (KC-135R, 459th ARW)- approaches
Pacer 08 (C-21, 457th AS)- approaches.
Navy JR 093 (C-20G # 165093, VR-48)- land.

VISITORS :

PAT 337- land.
Navy LV 129 (P-3C, VR-66, JRB Willow Grove)- depart.
Auto 92 (KC-135E,93RD ARS AFRC SELFRIGE MI)- depart.
Viper 01 (C-12, unidentified)- approaches.
JOSA 083- land
JOSA 777- depart
JOSA 728- land
Shady 54 (unidentified)- land
JOSA 733- land


2. PATUXENT RIVER NAS (KNHK):
[NTPS-Test Pilot School; NSATS (VX-23)-Strike Aircraft Test Squadron; NFATS 
(VX-20)-Force Aircraft Test Squadron-;NRWATS (HX-21)-Rotary Wing Aircraft Test 
Squadron- 119.275; 120.05; 123.7; 127.95; 256.5; 270.8; 281.8; 354.8]

Salty Dog 205 (F-14, VX-23)- w/VX-23 Ops (250.7) w/wx PIREP and then w/ZDC 
(281.4)
Navy 691 (C-20D # 163691, VR-1 Andrews)- approaches (127.95 & 135.025) then 
RTB Andrews.
Angel 31 flight (3 X F-18s, VMFA-321, Andrews)- w/Bay Watch (354.8) in ACM 
training.

3. Davison AAF, Ft Bevoir VA (KDAA):
Tower (126.3/229.4/241.0); Potomac approach/departure (118.85/118.95/119.85); 
Base Ops (139.4).

PAT 2401- land
PAT 868- land.
PAT 155- land

4. Martin State Airport (KMTN):
104th Fighter Sqdn MD ANG; 135th Airlift Sqdn MD ANG-Tower (121.3/297.2); 
Raven Ops (143.8/347.2); Crab Ops (385.9)

Evac 71354 (C-130J # 97-1354, 135th AS MD ANG)- w/Crab Ops (385.9) 
w/departure message.

5. MISCELLANEOUS:

Dragnet Uniform (E-3B AWACS, Tinker AFB)- w/Northern Lights (364.2).
Guard 929 (OH-58A # 73-21929, Maryland RAID) & Guard 168 (UH-60A # 89-26168, 
104th Medical Co, Weide AAF)- w/Weide tower (126.2) in local ops. Also w/Weide 
Ops (229.4).
Guard 521 (possible UH-1, Co "C" 2-224th AVN, MD NG Weide AAF)- land at Weide 
AAF (126.2).
Guard 895 (helo, MD NG Weide AAF)- w/Weide tower (126.2)
Navy CW 990 (C-130T,VR-54, NAS New Orleans)- w/Andrews Metro (344.6) for wx 
at NAS Brunwick ME.
Guard 22531 (UH-1H # 74-22531, Co "C" 2-224th AVN, Weide AAF)- w/Weide tower 
(126.2) and on MD MG interplane (246.8).

RON
MARYLAND, USA
PRO-2045 W/D-130J DISCONE
From jlmetcalfe at direcway.com  Wed Jul 28 21:20:55 2004
From: jlmetcalfe at direcway.com (Jack L. Metcalfe)
Date: Wed Jul 28 21:24:43 2004
Subject: [MilCom] ALE (OUTSTATMONMOUT & Civil Support Teams)
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040728210643.01bd7ef8@pop3.direcway.com>

9081.5 OUTSTATMONOUT & BASEMONMOUT, unid: 1735 USB ALE (27/JULY/04)

5847.0 OKC63NG, Oklahoma 63rd WMD-CST, Oklahoma City, OK: 1940 USB ALE 
(28/JULY/04) (JLM)

5847.0 TXC06NG, Texas 6th WMD-CST, Austin, TX: 2039 USB ALE (28/JULY/04) (JLM)

Links - Oklahoma 63rd WMD-CST:

http://www.omd.state.ok.us/63WMD/ao.htm
----------------------
Jack L. Metcalfe  Stanford, KY
Icom IC-R75 (x2), IC-R8500 & IC-R5
200' Longwire & 45' EF-SWL Sloper
----------------------


From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Wed Jul 28 22:30:22 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Wed Jul 28 22:34:22 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF Logs 18-22 July 04
Message-ID: <03de01c47514$048f9190$86d84fd8@Marks>

Some logs from vacation in northern Pennsylvania. A couple of good ones in here. Anyone have an id on USN callsign FLAMINGO?


7/18/2004

1307Z    13927.0    REACH 2823 (C-130E # 62-1823) p/p via AFA2HF Florida to DSN 779-4028 TACC

1316Z    13927.0    TEAL 91 (WC-130) p/p via AFA2HF to National Hurricane Center. States SATCOM is malfunctioning. Passes data and ids as Air Force Mission 985

7/19/2004

1145Z    10242.0    61A position report to PANTHER. Bearing 258, 20 miles from N7

1235Z    8971.0    WAFER 23 (P-3C) wkg GOLDENHAWK (TSC Brunswick) followed by ANDVT

1310Z    10993.6    ANDVT

1727Z    13927.0    CORSO 79 (C-130E PR-ANG) p/p via AFN2AC Miami to DSN 965-0940 Shaw AFB Meteo for WX at CYYT (St. John's), CYQX (Gander), CYHZ (Halifax), CYYR (Goose Bay)

1748Z    13927.0    REACH 4620 p/p via AFA2CU Florida to TACC for 2300z WX at Wright-Patterson AFB

1857Z    13927.0    REACH 4620 (near Goose Bay) morale p/p via AFA1RE Maine to Ohio

1907Z    13927.0    LONGHORN 23 (over the Med) wkg AFA1RE. Not patch quality

1909Z    15867.0    SERVICE CENTER calling 501 (CG 1501)

1923Z    13927.0    HOBBY 70 (near Gander) wkg AFA2SJ Florida. Not patch quality

2242Z    5696.0    CG 2120 (HU-25, CGAS Cape Cod) requests guard from CAMSLANT

2311Z    15025.0    WOLF 02 (E-2C, VAW-77) wkg SMASHER for WX at Soto Cano, Honduras

2337Z    6761.0    ETHYL H1 (KC-135) wkg unid REACH unit to arrange AR

ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: 501, 504, 706, 720, CS1, CS6, CS9, FL2, I08, I34, I63, I96, J01, J03, J22, J34, LNT, MV5, PAC, T11, TST, X61

7/20/2004

1257Z    13927.0    RAZOR 12 (E-8 JSTARS) wkg AFA2HF Florida

1319Z    8983.0    CAMSLANT wkg CG 1501 (HC-130, CGAS Elizabeth City)

1738Z    8971.0    GOLDENHAWK (TSC Brunswick) relays to FLAMINGO that BROADARROW 01 (P-3C, VP-62) is on station, ops normal

1841Z    13927.0    RAZOR 33 (E-8 JSTARS) p/p via AFA2CU to Robins AFB Meteo for 2000z WX at Robins AFB and 2030z WX at Moody AFB

ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: 504, 720, CS1, CS3, CS6, D41, D43, D48, D70, I08, I34, I37, I49, I4J, I97, J03, J25, J39, J42, MV5, T91, X51

ALE addresses monitored on USAF ALE: ADW, AF7, CRO, HIK, JNR, MCC, OFF, PLA, RIC, RSC

7/21/2004

0123Z    8992.0    REACH 6005 radio check with McClellan HF-GCS and Keflavik HF-GCS

0130Z    5696.0    CG 2131 (HU-25, CGAS Miami) ops normal report to CAMSLANT

1300Z    13927.0    REACH 3026 with request for AFA2HF. QSY 14408 kHz

1302Z    14408.0    REACH 3026 morale p/p via AFA2HF Florida to 701-XXX-XXXX North Dakota reporting 1000 local ETA

1455Z    6234.5    ANDVT

1917Z    13927.0    AIREVAC 463 with request for AFA2MH. QSY 14408 kHz

1919Z    14408.0    AIREVAC 463 p/p via AFA2MH Georgia to report 2045z ETA with 3 ambulatory, 1 litter, 1 attendant, A1

ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: 501, 704, 718, 720, C11, CS1, CS3, CS6, CS9, D23, D41, D49, D70, F12, I08, I34, I37, I4J, I97, J15, J25, J36, J38, J39, LNT, OPB, T91, X51

ALE addresses monitored on USAF ALE: 523, AC1, AED, ADW, AF7, HIK, ICZ, JDG, JNR, MCC, OFF, PLA, RIC

7/22/2004

0049Z    13927.0    REACH 266 morale p/p via AFA1EN Indiana

0056Z    4372.0    5ZP in Link Coord net in VACAPES OPAREA

0113Z    13927.0    REACH 5009 morale p/p via AFN2AC to 302-XXX-XXXX Delaware

0154Z    13215.0    AMC HEAVY 3081 wkg Puerto Rico HF-GCS who connects them with AMC HEAVY 434, AMC TEST 13,and AMC TEST 30 for connectivity test. Also try to connect to AMC HEAVY 40188

0212Z    6721.0    AMC HEAVY 434 p/p via Puerto Rico HF-GCS to DSN 650-7135 AMC TEST 30, McGuire AFB. AMC TEST states they are trying to maximize station capacity and requests they have AMC HEAVY 4018 connect

1256Z    13927.0    DARK 11 p/p via AFA2XD Florida to Dyess AFB CP

1955Z    8971.0    FIGHTING TIGER 23 (P-3C) with SPARE GROUP 8 report to GOLDENHAWK

2051Z    8912.0    51A wkg PANTHER to report airborne with 9 POB and 1+30 fuel en route to Z4. Position bearing 140, 76 miles from Z4

ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: 703, 717, A70, CS3, CS6, CS9, D41, D43, D48, D69, F29, F41, I00, I08, I34, I57, I97, J17, J23, J36, J38, LNT, M51, T42, T60, T85, X51, X61

ALE addresses monitored on USAF ALE: 440188, 510, 518, 537, ADW, AED, CRO, DEF, HAW, HIK, IKF, JNR, MCC, OFF, PLA, RIC, XXX




Mark
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Wed Jul 28 22:45:06 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 28 22:49:23 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Robins AFB Logs 7/28/04
Message-ID: <9.2f5b4966.2e39beb2@aol.com>

Decided to head down to Robins & check out the museum and do some monitoring 
around the base. Could've done better, but was a nice change of pace.

Freqs active,

Robins Tower: 133.225/ 320.1 (AirNav.com list Robins VHF Tower as 126.2)
Robins Ground: 121.85/ 275.8
Macon Appr/Deprt: 124.2,124.8
Robins ATIS: 233.4 / 119.475
Robins CP/Raymond-19: 311.0 / 134.1
Peachtree Ops (116th ACW CP): 293.525
ROGUE OPS (Air Depot Control Center): 225.925
'Gunrunner' AFRC CP: 372.175
Atlanta Center: 273.6


ROGUE-16 (F-15, Robins ALC, 339th FLTS) 320.1>273.6, takeoff Robins. (Return 
later.)

ROGUE-30 (C-130, Robins ALC, 339th FLTS) 133.225>124.2, takeoff Robins 
(Return later.)

PUJOE-73 (T-6A, Moody, 479th FTG) 133.225, lands Robins.

ROGUE-17 (F-15, Robins ALC, 339th FLTS) 320.1>273.6, takeoff Robins.

KING-21 (H?C-130, Moody?) 133.125, (Shot approaches then departed VFR) 

JOSA-463 (C-21)  133.225, lands Robins (Rqst'd 3k lbs of fuel. pax dropoff, 
then onto Andrews.)

?CRAWDAD?-20 (??) 133.125, takeoff Robins. (Couldn't make out c/s well as I 
was headed back towards ATL at that time, Either CRAWDAD or CONGO)
-----------------------------------------
AIREVAC-71354 (C-130J, MD-ANG, 135th AS, # 97-1254) w/ RAYMOND-19 (311.0) 
looking for phone patch to MacDill, Has 2 patients on board)
JOLLY-51 (HH-60, Moody) w/ Macon Approach (124.2), direct Dobbins.
GATOR-## flight of # (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta, VMFA-142) A/A on 328.55
-----------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga

From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Wed Jul 28 23:05:14 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 28 23:09:09 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KCYS: 28 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <1d1.270bbb72.2e39c36a@aol.com>

This post from my visit to WY-ANG Open House at Cheyenne , WY

Freqs as Follows:
Ground: 121.90/254.275
Tower: 118.70/257.80
Approach/Departure: 125.90/284.70 and 124.55/263.075
Thunderbirds: 143.85 didn't look for others.

257.80: TETON-77, (C-130H, WY-ANG), land.
118.70:  PAT-513, (C-12), land.
118.70:  SMOKY-50, (C-21A, Peterson), fly-by and then cleared back to 
Colorado Springs.
254.275: TETON-77, (C-130H, WY-ANG), cleared out with Jumpers. ((Made 3 
passes over the field and dropped members of the AF Academy Jump Team. 
284.70:  STEALTH-01, flight of 2, (F-117A, Holloman), inbound for the fly-by. 
Switched to Tower, 118.70 for the fly-bys when Tower had problems with UHF. 
Made 3 low passes before switching 263.075 and getting clearance to Holloman 
via another fly-by at the AF Academy. ((Not sure, but they may have tanked with 
HUSKER-15 near Rapid City, SD before heading for their fly-bys. Only one of 
the 2 did the fly-bys. Other loitered overhead.))
121.90: TETON-01, flight of 2, (1 C-130H, NC-ANG and 1 C-130H, AK-ANG), 
cleared out to the west. Apparently just goofed around out west of Cheyenne for an 
hour until their part of the show.
284.70:  THUNDER-61, (B-1B, Ellsworth), inbound for fly-by. Switched Tower 
257.80 for fly-by. Party pooper only made one low and slow pass over the field 
before heading back to Elsworth. 
121.90:  MAFFS-01, (C-130H, WY-ANG), cleared out for (firefighting) 
demonstration. Did an impressive drop, but missed the fire completely. Base fire trucks 
had to go put it out. ((In all fairness however, the fire consisted of stacks 
of pallets and MAFFS had problems with one of his pressure valves which 
resulted in an abnormal drop))
118.70:  MUSTANG-01, (P-51/A-10A),  Heritage fly-bys. Made about 5 passes.
118.70:  HOG-01, flight of 2, (A-10A, Davis-Monthan), land. One of these 
birds was involved in the heritage fly-by. 
254.275: THUNDERBIRD-1, flight of 6, (F-16, Nellis), cleared out for 
Showtime. Unfortunately the Thunderbird show was mainly for Cheyenne Frontier Days 
Rodeo and was performed about 10-15 miles south of the airport. From what we 
could see, the show was low (due to clouds), short and uninspired. Didn't even 
make a fly-by of the Airshow prior to landing. Nor did they do their usual sharp 
taxi past the crowd. Just kind of straggled back to their parking spots. Were 
roundly boo-ed by the Airshow crowd. Diamond worked 143.85. Wasn't interesting 
enough to search for the solos. One thing of interest was the fact that 
aircraft #4 was a "D" model. The 2 spares were "C's" and were not numbered. 
125.90:  TETON-01, flight of 4, (C-130's: Original TETON-1 flight, plus 
TETON-77 and MAFFS-01), inbound for formation fly-by. After fly-by, each landed 
under his own callsign. TETON-01 flight (the original 2-ship) landed as EPIC-55 
and SCARS-56.

And that was about it. Will post the static display numbers when I get them 
sorted out. Probably tomorrow. 

Sandy
Denver, CO (TDY Cheyenne)
From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Wed Jul 28 23:05:12 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 28 23:09:18 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 28 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <b8.5e317984.2e39c368@aol.com>

All the action today was down at Colorado Springs and up at the WY-ANG Open 
House at Cheyenne. Will do a separate post from my Cheyenne visit.

372.20:  TETON-77, (C-130H, WY-ANG), land Colorado Springs. Then back to 
Cheyenne. ((Picked up the AF Academy Jump Team))
275.80:  STUD-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out on VR-413.
275.80:  REDEYE-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out for 2 sorties 
Cheyenne MOA.
372.20:  SMOKY-50, (C-21A, Peterson), takeoff Colorado Springs enroute 
Cheyenne. Return later.
289.40:  FAME-01, (C-21A, Keesler), fly-by AF Academy.
289.40:  STEALTH-01, flight of 2, (F-117A, Holloman), fly-by AF Academy.
275.80:  STUD-21, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared Airburst Range.
239.025: SMOKY-50, (C-21A, Peterson), low approach Colorado Springs; then on 
to Grand Junction.
239.025: NODAK-3, flight of 2, (F-16, ND-ANG), land Colorado Springs.
372.20:  JOSA-101, (C-21A, Peterson), takeoff Colorado Springs. Return later.
372.20:  SPACE-1, (C-21A, Peterson), land Colorado Springs.
121.00:  ?JOSA?-341, (C-21A), land. ((Kept cutting off the callsign))
372.20:  JOSA-487, (C-21A, Peterson), land Colorado Springs.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Wed Jul 28 23:40:54 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 28 23:44:57 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/28/04
Message-ID: <149.2f226285.2e39cbc6@aol.com>

Didn't monitor much as I was down at Robins. But here is what I did manage to 
pick up after my return

NAVY JS-737 (C-9, NAS Atlanta, VR-46) 120.75>121.0>125.7, takeoff Dobbins. 

NAVY JS-266 (C-9, NAS Atlanta, VR-46) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. 
(Return around 2110z)

NAVY 7B-123 (UC-12, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0>119.8, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared 
to KLSF (Return around 0105z)

NAVY 6E-032 (T-34, NAS Whiting Field, TAW-5) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins.

LOCKHEED-5551 (C-130J, Lockheed Test) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

COBB-27 (C-130, Dobbins, 94th AW) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared  to Chattanooga (KCHA). (Return around 0115z)

COBB-28 (C-130, Dobbins, 94th AW) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared Round Robin. (Return around 0120z)

MADFOX-23 (P-3, NAS Jacksonville, VP-5) 370.875>134.125, (Shot approaches for 
about an hour then back home to Navy Jax (KNIP), 0050z)
--------------------------------------------
JOSA-777 (C-21) calling Robins Dispatch (372.2) w/ no reply
MADFOX-14 (P-3, NAS Jacksonville, VP-5) w/ Dobbins Metro (274.75) rqst wx for 
Navy Jacksonville (KNIP).
---------------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga
From mystic at ikansas.com  Wed Jul 28 23:14:54 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Wed Jul 28 23:55:41 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	28 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <008501c4751f$2da46140$d8cb2740@u5a3b0>

316.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE PRIMARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
1540Z - LOBO-41 FLIGHT plays on playground (ceiling @ 9000 causes some
problems)
1649Z - SMOKY de ICKER-11 inbound; WIZARD de ICKER-11
1703Z - SMOKY de ICKER-12 inbound
1724Z - WIZARD de ICKER-13 inbound & we are only seeing 1 signal
1734Z - WIZARD de ICKER-14 off dry, switches safe
1743Z - WIZARD de ICKER-17, IP inbound
1753Z - affirmative for ICKER-15
1829Z - SMOKY de ICKER-19, will be dropping single BDU
1916Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT plays for 30 minutes on playground
2026Z - WIZARD de DRAGNET_VICTOR, checking in early.  Can you take us?  Rg,
130/100/280
affirm @ 145/75. VICTOR, WILCO

363.200 (KZKC SALINA)
1602Z - LOBO-41 FLIGHT RTB SOUIX FALLS
1943Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT RTB DES MOINES

269.500 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
0003Z - CZAR-81 switching

337.400 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
1707Z - ICKER-17 FL 210
1721Z - ICKER-14
1806Z - ICKER-15, 322.4
1829Z - ICKER-21

322.400 (KZKC NATOMA)
1806Z - ICKER-15 & ICKER-16 checking in

296.600 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
1607Z - LOBO-41 FLIGHT
1947Z - CYCLONE-01 cleared to 290; push 360.85

360.850 (KZKC NORTHEAST KANSAS HIGH DISCRETE)
1951Z - CYCLONE-01 checking in & 290 is good for final

285.400 (KZKC EMPORIA)
0442Z - CZAR-82, 263.1

263.100 (KZKC ANTHONY)
0450Z - CZAR-82; do you want us to go VHF?  281.4 for CZAR-82

269.400 (KZKC GARDEN CITY)
1715Z - ICKER-13

281.400 (KZKC GARDEN CITY)
0454Z - CZAR-82 @ FL 390; 354.15

354.100 (KZKC TULSA)
1910Z - LOCO-01 FLIGHT RTB TULSA

277.400 (KZKC SPRINGFIELD)
1925Z - DEATH-31
1943Z - CZAR-82 passing 2XX for 2XX to AR w/ DIXIE-34

323.150 (KZKC SEDALIA)
2007Z - FAST-31 radio check

354.150 (KZDV PUEBLO)
0520Z - CZAR-82

307.200 (KZMP HASTINGS)
1607Z - LOBO-41 FLIGHT

256.700 (KZMP OMAHA)
1958Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT @ FL 280

134.900 (KZKC SALINA)
1618Z - JEST-61 accepts MARSA w/ ECHO-13

139.700 (114th FW SDANG; SOUIX FALLS, SOUTH DAKOTA: VICTOR-13)
1544Z - LOBO-41 & LOBO-42

138.200 (132nd FW IAANG; DES MOINES, IOWA: VICTOR-12)
1945Z - CYCLONE-01 & CYCLONE-02

264.600 (134th AIR CONTROL SQDN; McCONNELL AFB: JAYHAWK CONTROL)
1908Z - CREEK-01 & CREEK-02 w/ JAYHAWK CONTROL

236.800 (134th AIR CONTROL SQDN; McCONNELL AFB: JAYHAWK CONTROL)
1910Z - LOCO-01 & LOCO-02 w/ JAYHAWK CONTROL; Rg, push 354.1

295.800 (AR-318)
0010Z - HAPPY-01 co-ordinating w/ SCOUT-64 prior to commencement of AR OPNS

297.300 (PAWNEE-LAMONI AR TRACK PRIMARY)
0221Z - BAT-23 co-ordinating w/ _____-20 prior to commencement of AR OPNS
0250Z - BAT-22 (572600) conduct AR OPNS w/ TOPCAT-99

366.300 (AR-116 PRIMARY)
1618Z - JEST-61 conduct AR OPNS w/ ECHO-13
1648Z - KANZA-52 conduct AR OPNS w/ ICKER-14

260.200 (AR-116 SECONDARY)
1624Z - KANZA-52 conduct AR OPNS w/ ICKER-14
1653Z - KANZA-53 conduct AR OPNS w/ ICKER-15 (600061) & ICKER-14 (610006)

327.600 (AR-110)
1735Z - TURBO-25 conduct AR OPNS w/ _____-33

353.500 (KICT APP - DEP)
1852Z - 269.1 for DUKE-17
2004Z - SHOOT-50

269.100 (KIAB APP - DEP)
1852Z - DUKE-17

326.200 (KEND APP)
1908Z - DUKE-17
1932Z - DUKE-25

344.600 (KSZL METRO)
1849Z - McCONNELL METRO de TURBO-14 (I have serious doubts he will get KIAB
METRO to respond)

227.400 (KOFF METRO)
1613Z - (sounded like) BALLS-41 ETA KOFF 1900Z (expressed concern about
showers in the AO)

375.200 (KIAB METRO)
1629Z - OKIE-11 rqsting current forecast KIAB & projected forecast for
TINKER @ 1745Z
1737Z - ICKER-13 rqst forecast for Romeo-?? thru ?? @ FT. SILL @ 1830Z
1855Z - TURBO-10

304.600 (KANSAS ARMY NATIONAL GUARD OPNS)
0214Z - 552 de 324,over

286.500 (190th ARW KSANG; FORBES FIELD: WYLIE CONTROL)
0114Z - WYLIE-23
0304Z - WYLIE-60
1700Z - WYLIE-31

321.000 (COMMAND POST)
0442Z - SHOCKER CONTROL de TURBO-11; landing early, 15 minutes out, CODE-01
& 40K on the fuel.  BRAVO-03
1724Z - SHOCKER MAINT. w/ KANZA-43 (multiple write-ups)
1748Z - SHOCKER MAINT w/.KANZA-53 (multiple write-ups)

368.250 (MID-CONUS TACAMO)
1611Z (NFM) voice underneath modem

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CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From r_reining at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 28 23:58:06 2004
From: r_reining at yahoo.com (RICHARD REINING)
Date: Thu Jul 29 00:02:04 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Logs Houston TX [NASA]
Message-ID: <20040729035806.85815.qmail@web13904.mail.yahoo.com>

     07/29/04

126.050   0201Z   NASA 912 [T-38N] landing Ellington
                  Fld, TX

126.050   0213Z   NASA 955 [T-38N] lsnding Ellington
                  Fld, TX

126.050   0226Z   NASA 920 [T-38N landing Ellington
                  Fld, TX

126.050   0310Z   NASA 966 [T-38N] landing Ellington
                  Fld, TX


=====
Richard Reining
Houston TX USA
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From LewisRand at aol.com  Thu Jul 29 00:13:20 2004
From: LewisRand at aol.com (LewisRand@aol.com)
Date: Thu Jul 29 00:17:20 2004
Subject: [MilCom] On Scene KFFO
Message-ID: <d4.12819013.2e39d360@aol.com>

All comms heard on either 281.45, 126.9, 121.8, or 335.8
On first visit TREND-11 flt of 2 cleared to take-off 5L. F-117As Holloman 
followed by CACTI-61 KC-10. The 117s did a low flyover to join up with the 
tanker.

Also 2 445th C-141Cs doing pattern work
 
On my second visit SLAYER-01 flt of 3 A-10s landed 5L. 

Does anybody know if the USAF has any UC/C-35s. If so what base(s) and 
unit(s)?

The Rights and Freedoms We enjoy in this country were not FREE. They were and 
are NOW being Bought and Guaranteed to US by the BLOOD, SWEAT, and LABORS of 
our fighting MEN and WOMEN.
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Thu Jul 29 00:15:56 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Thu Jul 29 00:19:53 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Re: Dobbins ARB Logs 7/28/04
Message-ID: <159.3b021fe9.2e39d3fc@aol.com>

The serial for  AIREVAC-71354 should be  # 97-1354 not # 97-1254.

Adam
Marietta,Ga


Airshowfreak5@aol.com Wrote;

AIREVAC-71354 (C-130J, MD-ANG, 135th AS, # 97-1254) w/ RAYMOND-19 (311.0) 
looking for phone patch to MacDill, Has 2 patients on board)



From LewisRand at aol.com  Thu Jul 29 00:21:53 2004
From: LewisRand at aol.com (LewisRand@aol.com)
Date: Thu Jul 29 00:25:56 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Addition to On scene at KFFO
Message-ID: <154.3afeee97.2e39d561@aol.com>

TREND-11 flt leader was a Female pilot. In the F-117s of course.

The Rights and Freedoms We enjoy in this country were not FREE. They were and 
are NOW being Bought and Guaranteed to US by the BLOOD, SWEAT, and LABORS of 
our fighting MEN and WOMEN.
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Thu Jul 29 00:27:06 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Thu Jul 29 00:31:06 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Addition to On scene at KFFO
Message-ID: <1d7.27254da0.2e39d69a@aol.com>

Heard CACTI-## on Shaw CP (381.3) a while back and was to be accompanied by 
TREND-11 flight (Which was w/ ATL CNTR). Makes me wonder if those TREND guys 
(Or guys/gals I possibly should say ;-) ) I never got an ID on were Nighthawks.

Adam
Marietta,Ga

From jlmetcalfe at direcway.com  Thu Jul 29 16:19:10 2004
From: jlmetcalfe at direcway.com (Jack L. Metcalfe)
Date: Thu Jul 29 16:23:15 2004
Subject: [MilCom] ALE (Arkansas WMD-CST)
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040729161039.01bc4508@pop3.direcway.com>

5847.0 ARC61NG, Arkansas 61st WMD-CST, Camp Robinson  at North Little Rock, 
AR: 1726 USB ALE
(29/JULY/04) (JLM)
----------------------
Jack L. Metcalfe  Stanford, KY
Icom IC-R75 (x2), IC-R8500 & IC-R5
200' Longwire & 45' EF-SWL Sloper
----------------------


From mystic at ikansas.com  Thu Jul 29 16:51:26 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Thu Jul 29 16:57:43 2004
Subject: [MilCom] AIREVAC-7019
Message-ID: <001601c475ad$ddb78380$0ccb2740@u5a3b0>

311.000
2034Z - McCONNELL CMD POST de AIREVAC-7019 (70019), rqst pp to TACC CELL;
HILDA de AIREVAC-7019; seems crewchief fixed problem w/ autopilot @ SCOTT &
we now rqst to continue mission to MIRAMAR drop off the paxs there and then
go to TRAVIS.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From rfinder1 at verizon.net  Thu Jul 29 18:20:06 2004
From: rfinder1 at verizon.net (Ken)
Date: Thu Jul 29 18:24:17 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Get Your Coffee for an Early Start!!!  
Message-ID: <024d01c475ba$34153b30$6401a8c0@kenp8hr9y6jkvj>

See http://www.greatnewenglandairshow.com/Schedule.htm

Apparently gates will open up 0730 hrs both days of the show.

Ken

From unanmatt at aol.com  Thu Jul 29 20:34:43 2004
From: unanmatt at aol.com (unanmatt@aol.com)
Date: Thu Jul 29 20:38:53 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Log: Alexandria IAP (AEX), Louisiana 29th July 2004
Message-ID: <e6.54fa7e1f.2e3af1a3@aol.com>

Hi all,

Noted today at Alexandria,

C-130H 85-1636 bl 136th AW 181st AS TX ANG  arr/dep as "AIREVAC 626"
T-6A 02-648 XL  y 47th FTW 85th FTS "Tigers" arr/dep as "VODKA 60"

Anyone have the missing digit from the T-6?

No reports from here for a week. I'm off to England for a week (2nd time in 3 
months). Hope to see some of you at Warton or Leeming. Say hello to the guy 
driving his mum's crapped out red four door. That will be me;-)

Matt Ellis
Alexandria, Louisiana
From unanmatt at aol.com  Thu Jul 29 20:36:31 2004
From: unanmatt at aol.com (unanmatt@aol.com)
Date: Thu Jul 29 20:40:38 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Log: Alexandria IAP (AEX), Louisiana 29th July 2004
Message-ID: <15.2efacaa5.2e3af20f@aol.com>

Oops. Sorry, that was meant for another list.

Matt Ellis
From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Thu Jul 29 20:28:58 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Thu Jul 29 21:36:47 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Charleston AFB Logs 28 July 04
Message-ID: <008401c475d5$1a033c40$62d84fd8@Marks>

349.400 Charleston CP
------------------------
LIFTER 31
GRITS 03
LIFTER 91
LIFTER 25
REACH 454T
REACH 950


134.100 Charleston CP
-------------------------
GIANT 8286 departing 0233z for Frankfurt


306.925 Approach
--------------------
BENGAL 42/43 (F/A-18D, VMFA-224)
DEMON 51 (F-16CJ, 157 FS)


284.500 Sealord
------------------
BENGAL 42/43 (F/A-18D, VMFA-224)


279.725/381.350 Doubleshot
------------------------------
DIAMOND 51/52 (F-16CJ)


165.2375/166.4375 CBP
--------------------------
ALPHA 1103
ALPHA 1120 and ALPHA 1121 w/SECTOR on prisoner transfer
4 INDIA 1132



Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
http://www.wunclub.com/files/uscg_air.html
https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From mjcleary at bellsouth.net  Thu Jul 29 21:31:06 2004
From: mjcleary at bellsouth.net (MJ Cleary)
Date: Thu Jul 29 21:37:19 2004
Subject: [MilCom] HF Logs 28 July 04
Message-ID: <008701c475d5$2fa5b7d0$62d84fd8@Marks>

1117Z    5696.0    CG 2109 (HU-25) airborne from ATC Mobile en route Panama City

[15:33:15][FRQ  9025000][TO ][NW4            ][TIS][ADW            ][AL0] BER 30 SN 11 

[17:34:18][FRQ  9025000][TO ][551445         ][TIS][ADW            ][AL0] BER 30 SN 10 

2038Z    8971.0    FIDDLE asks unheard CARDFILE unit if he is "hot" then QSLs his ETA report of 2 hours

[21:50:34][FRQ  7527000][TO ][PAC            ][TIS][J25            ][AL0] BER 30 SN 14 followed by 25C calling CAMSPAC with No Joy

ALE addresses monitored on COTHEN: 504, 704, 711, 720, A21, A50, CS2, CS3, CS5, CS6, CS9, D23, D41, D70, F12, F35, FL2, I3L, J11, J13, J17, J25, J34, J37, JOE, LNT, M46, MC3, OPB, PAC, PR1, X51, X61

ALE addresses monitored on FBI net: AT1, CL1, CO1, HQ1, KC1, ME1, NF1, OM2, QT2, RH1, SI1, SL1, WF1

ALE addresses monitored on USCG TISCOM net: F35, NMC

ALE addresses monitored on USAF ALE: 551445, ADW, HAW, JNR, NW4, OFF



Mark
================================
Monitoring Milcom from Charleston, SC

R75 (x2), DX-398, DX-390, DX-302, YB400, 
ATS-505, BC 895XLT (x2), BC 245XLT, 
BC 780XLT, PRO-37, PRO-60, PRO-2052

================================
http://www.wunclub.com/files/uscg_air.html
https://www.piersystem.com/external/index.cfm?cid=586
http://www.wunclub.com/files/aleinfo.html
From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Fri Jul 30 00:01:53 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul 30 00:06:00 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 29 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <6d.2f8a4295.2e3b2231@aol.com>

A fairly busy day today.

121.00:  FLIGHT CHECK 81, (Unk type), doing aporoaches to Buckley for ILS 
checks. Then head for Centennial.
275.80:  STUD-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out for 2 sorties 
VR-413.
121.60:  REACH 6009, (C-130, Little Rock), cleared to Travis.
275.80:  REDEYE-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out for 2 sorties 
Cheyenne MOA.
372.20:  JOSA-465, (C-21A), takeoff Colorado Springs.
239.025: NODAK-4, (F-16, ND-ANG), land Colorado Springs.
372.20:  REACH 376, (C-130, CA-ANG), request pp to Channel Islands Ops. Pass 
ETA.
372.20:  JOSA-509, (C-21A) takeoff Colorado Springs.
372.20:  COBRA-47, (RC/OC-135, Offutt), request pp Offutt CP. Pass ETA.
121.00:  NAVY JS-988, (C-9B, VR-46, Atlanta), land; then on to Navy New 
Orleans.
372.20:  WODDEN-31, (KC-10A, McGuire), request pp McGuire CP. Pass ETA.
291.675: ANGEL-21, flight of 2, (F/A-18, VMFA-321, Andrews), land.
349.20:  SMOKY-18, (C-21A, Peterson), checking on t-storms Colorado Springs 
area.
372.20:  SWAMI-01, (Unk), land Colorado Springs. ((Almost sounded like a 
C-21))
372.20:  EVAC-7019, (C-141, McGuire), Trying to get pp to both TACC and 
Airevac CP. Nobody answering him. Trying to pass along that autopilot is fixed and 
request permission to press on to Miramar.
225.40:  THUNDER-84, (B-1B, Ellsworth), with Denver Center, FL 210. 
Descending to 20,000 and switching to Denver Approach 251.1245 and 251.075. Requesting 
direct Pueblo to meet up with his tanker, TURBO-75, (KC-135, McConnell). 
Switch 379.95 for vectors to tanker.
252.525: THUNDER-84 A/A with TURBO-75. Make visual contact and switch AR 
Primary 336.10. THUNDER requests 10-30K on fuel and a drag towards Salt Lake City 
via Blue Mesa and Grand Junction. 336.10 is also the boom freq. After a couple 
of failed attempts at automatic hookup, they finally do it manually. Last 
heard proceeding along AR-201.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Fri Jul 30 00:01:54 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul 30 00:06:03 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Cheyenne Air Show: 28 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <5b.54cbf14e.2e3b2232@aol.com>

For those who follow such things, here are the numbers on the static displays.

C-130H, WY-ANG, 92-1538
C-130H, NC-ANG, 93-1455
C-130H, AK-ANG, 82-0056
KC-135R, 756 ARS, Andrews, 57-1512
C-5A, NY-ANG, 68-0226
C-141B, McGuire, 66-7944 (THUNDERBIRD-14)
2 X AV-8B, VMA-211, Yuma, CF-08/165569, CF-11/165590
T-33A, WY-ANG, (?5?)36661. (How did that sneak in there??)
UH-1N, F.E. Warren AFB 69-6608
UH-60A, WY-ARNG, 81-23598

Were supposed to be several more, including warbirds, but this is all that 
showed up.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From mystic at ikansas.com  Thu Jul 29 20:00:39 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Fri Jul 30 00:21:48 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	29 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <000201c475ec$1ee87920$22cb2740@u5a3b0>

316.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE PRIMARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
1412Z - WIZARD de TOPCAT-43, 353/83/280
1456Z - WIZARD de TOPCAT-43, 004/98/290
1558Z - WIZARD de DRAGNET, can we bootleg signal until our scheduled time?
Oh?  OK, will check with our scheduling as to who dropped the ball
1717Z - WIZARD de JENA-11, checking in & rqst authorization to enter your
airspace from RCO.  Rg, Thanks
1730Z - SMOKY de JENA-12
1743Z - RCO de JENA-13, be @ IP in about 3 minutes
1752Z - SMOKY de JENA-14
2013Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT checks in for playtime

363.200 (KZKC SALINA)
1742Z - JENA-12
1804Z - JENA-14 out of 17000 for 10000
1806Z - JENA-15

296.600 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
1748Z - 346.3 for DUKE-27
1750Z - DUKE-31 FLIGHT
1751Z - DUKE-21 FLIGHT rqst lower

344.800 (KZKC ANTHONY)
1649Z - JENA-12

277.400 (KZKC SPRINGFIELD)
2137Z - DEATH-43

281.450 (KZKC TULSA)
2104Z - FAST-52
2104Z - DUKE-15

319.100 (KZKC PONCA CITY)
2300Z - (sounded like) BISON-11

337.400 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
1809Z - JENA-15

346.300 (KZMP LINCOLN)
1749Z - DUKE-27
1754Z - DUKE-21 FLIGHT
1801Z - DUKE-31 FLIGHT checking in looking for lower

307.200 (KZMP HASTINGS)
2052Z - LOBO-11 FLIGHT

134.900 (KZKC SALINA)
1728Z - JENA-11

133.925 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
0239Z - JOSA-463

118.350 (KZKC ANTHONY)
1657Z - OKIE-11 FLIGHT

128.750 (KZMP LINCOLN)
0251Z - CRUSTY-22 FL 220 direct KIAB

314.400 (LINCOLN MOA)
1501Z - CYCLONE-01, CYCLONE-02, CYCLONE-03 & CYCLONE-04
1516Z - Ready in the east? Fight is on! 21000 defending

138.200 (132nd FW IAANG; DES MOINES, IOWA: VICTOR-12)
1504Z - CYCLONE-01 FLIGHT

139.700 (114th FW SDANG; SOUIX FALLS, SOUTH DAKOTA: VICTOR-13)
2015Z - LOBO-11 & LOBO-12

297.300 (PAWNEE-LAMONI AR TRACK PRIMARY)
0225Z - CRUSTY-22 conduct AR OPNS w/ TOPCAT-58
1641Z - BAT-42 (572600) conduct AR OPNS w/ TOPCAT-43

327.600 (AR-110)
2147Z - CZAR-83

366.300 (AR-116 PRIMARY)
1702Z - JEST-21 conduct AR OPNS w/ JENA-15 (switches to AR Secondary)

260.200 (AR-116 AR SECONDARY)
1700Z - OKIE-11 conduct AR OPNS w/ JENA-13.  JEST-21 & HUSKER-## were also
on freq
1729Z - JEST-21 continues to conduct AR OPNS w/ JENA-15

227.400 (KOFF METRO)
0247Z - TOPCAT-58 unable to get ATIS @ LNK.  Rqst you provide current
conditions.

301.600 (184th ARW KSANG; McCONNELL AFB: TWISTER OPNS)
0307Z - CRUSTY-22 is 20 minutes out.  Will be doing 1 touch & go then full
stop.  CODE-01.  Rqst parking
2117Z - JAYHAWK-11 is CODE-02 w/ 1 write-up.  We have 15 paxs; rqst
airstairs & transportation for paxs.  Rqst parking

286.500 (190th ARW KSANG; FORBES FIELD: WYLIE CONTROL)
2353Z - WYLIE CONTROL de TEMPO-41 abn 2340Z

311.000 (COMMAND POST)
1516Z - RAYMOND-21 w/ TOPCAT-43 concerning ETA for tanker
1521Z - SHOCKER CONTROL de TOPCAT-43, can you pp me to DSN 585-0275?  Rg,
standing by.  SOUIX CITY SCHEDULING (sounded like he said) de TOPCAT-43,
understand our tanker is broken right now.  Thru our CMD POST, we were told
they were looking @ 1 hour slippage. Discussion concerning BINGO time & 43
would not be able to fly the entire track.
1616Z - RAYMOND-21 de TOPCAT-43 (no joy)
1618Z - SHOCKER CONTROL de TOPCAT-43, rqst pp to RAYMOND-21 DSN 271-3725
2034Z - McCONNELL CMD POST de AIREVAC-7019 (70019), rqst pp to TACC CELL;
HILDA de AIREVAC-7019; seems crewchief fixed problem w/ autopilot @ SCOTT &
we now rqst to continue mission to MIRAMAR drop off the paxs there and then
go to TRAVIS.

321.000 (COMMAND POST)
0353Z - SHOCKER MAINT de KANZA-57, 28K on the fuel & 1 write-up
0412Z - SHOCKER CONTROL & MAINT. de KANZA-59; 20 minutes out, 0 write-ups,
33K on the fuel & rqst parking.  Rg, ALPHA-05

364.200 (AICC)
1453Z - ALLEYCAT de DRAGNET_VICTOR, has you loud & clear. Confirm network &
crypto for
LINK-16.  ALLEYCAT, you are cleared to enter the net

368.250 (MID-CONUS TACAMO)
1516Z - (NFM) shrill tone

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From mystic at ikansas.com  Fri Jul 30 00:16:22 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Fri Jul 30 00:23:18 2004
Subject: [MilCom] REACH-02
Message-ID: <000d01c475ec$56127b80$22cb2740@u5a3b0>

344.600
0412Z
Rqst current & forecast weather for SCOTT AFB with 0500Z ETA
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Fri Jul 30 00:23:39 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul 30 00:27:46 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/29/04
Message-ID: <99.4a1db564.2e3b274b@aol.com>

A slow one today.

JOSA-143 (C-21) 134.125, lands Dobbins. (Depart later.)

COBB-84 (C-130, Dobbins, 94th AW) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. 
(Return around 1805z, Later depart around 2230z, Return around 0200z)

BARRY-540 (SW-4/Merlin, Gov't Contract Acft) 120.75>121.0>126.975, takeoff 
Dobbins. Cleared to Augusta (KAGS).

GATOR-21 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta, VMFA-142) 370.875>268.7>284.7>254.35, takeoff 
Dobbins. Cleared to Navy Pensacola (KNPA). (Return around 1845z)

GATOR-55 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta, VMFA-142) 346.8, lands Dobbins.

GATOR-11 flight of 2 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta, VMFA-142) 370.875>268.7>284.7 (A/A 
328.55), takeoff Dobbins.  Cleared to Navy Pensacola (KNPA)

NAVY 7B-504 (UC-12, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0>119.8, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared 
to Navy Jax (KNIP) (Return around 2030z)

PAT-375 (??) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Miami.

ARMY-01051 (UC-35) 134.125, lands Dobbins.

COBB-30 (C-130, Dobbins, 94th AW) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared 
Round Robin.

RED DOG-31 (UH-1, NAS Atlanta, HMLA-773) 120.75, lands Dobbins.
--------------------------
      MISC
JOSA-235 (C-21, # 84-0129) w/ Maxwell Dispatch (372.2) rqst 2k lbs of 
fuel,A1.
-------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga
From jimmylaw at sover.net  Fri Jul 30 10:07:51 2004
From: jimmylaw at sover.net (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri Jul 30 07:50:46 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Ft. Hood Range Control
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.4.21.0407301005440.26899-100000@granite.sover.net>

Is anyone hearing Ft. Hood range control on 30.45?  They been absent from
my loggings this summer.  Are they still using that freq.?

Thanks!

All The Best,
Jim

From jasbo01 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 30 09:12:58 2004
From: jasbo01 at yahoo.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri Jul 30 09:17:13 2004
Subject: [MilCom] (no subject)
Message-ID: <20040730131258.9600.qmail@web14427.mail.yahoo.com>

WZZM-TV announced this morning (and probably last
night) that POTUS will be arriving at Gerald R. Ford
International Airport (GRR) at 1305 EDT today. 
Subsequent departure will be 17??.
 
Would appreciate any posting relative to this trip
since I'll be at work and not available to comms. 
(Believe the nearest Northstar GEP would be WPAFB,
Dayton, OH.)
 
Also, Presidential Nominee Sen. John Kerry will be in
GR on Monday, arriving by bus.  Following his
nomination last night, I'd expect a full security
detail will be in place.
 
Jim Johnson
Caledonia, MI



	
		
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From larry at grove-ent.com  Fri Jul 30 10:11:15 2004
From: larry at grove-ent.com (Larry Van Horn)
Date: Fri Jul 30 10:10:39 2004
Subject: [MilCom] New Blue Angel Frequencies (including FA)
Message-ID: <003001c4763f$1752b510$8301a8c0@groveent.com>

Well it looks like we have finally nailed down the three new BA
frequencies, and many, many thanks to a special Milcom monitoring team
at Peoria last weekend.  I tip my hat to them for  a great job and then
getting back to us on what they heard.

265.000	Diamond/Delta
237.800	Solo aircraft
And a drum roll please...

305.500	Fat Albert w/ Comm Cart

It was also noted that 163.000 was used for ground maint & cockpit
checks before the show; BA observer in control tower to Comm Cart, etc.
Possibly brief traffic on 238.15, 251.600, but definitely NOT confirmed.
And NOTHING heard on any of the old standby Angels freqs, including the
164.9, 168.9, 170.9 stuff.

I will have some additional details on our airshow webpage sometime
early next week when I get the webstaff back in the office. You can get
more detailed info by going to http://www.grove-ent.com/ and clicking on
the "Annual MT Airshow Spectacular" link.

As always, if anyone does monitoring at any of the shows, we would
appreciate any updates or just confirming what we have in place. It
really helps us keep the airshow page on the website up-to-date and
helps the monitor community at large monitor some fantastic
communications.

73 all and good hunting,

Larry Van Horn, N5FPW USN (Ret)
Founding Father of Milcom, Fedcom and Trunkcom
Monitoring Times Assistant Editor and Milcom Columnist
WUN Military/Government Newsletter Columnist
Grove Enterprises Technical Support Department
Telephone: V-828-837-9200/F-828-837-2216/800-438-8155


From Rapbep at aol.com  Fri Jul 30 12:16:49 2004
From: Rapbep at aol.com (Rapbep@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul 30 12:21:10 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Interesting Incident
Message-ID: <d2.12aac787.2e3bce71@aol.com>

All,

This morning in the late 1100 hour (EDT) two KC-135Rs from the 459th ARW at 
Andrews (DC 51 & DC 52) departed Andrews for an AAR mission.  Shortly after 
take off, while still with Potomac Departure (125.65) DC 51 developed a 
transponder problem which they couldn't correct in the air. DC 51 tried to split off 
from the formation and RTB Andrews. Potomac control would not let DC 51, with no 
transponder, RTB to Andrews by himself. Oviously due to the very crowded 
airspace around Andrews/Washington DC.

The formation decided, in consultation with 459th Ops (351.2), to have DC 52 
(with a good transponder) assume the lead and RTB Andrews as a formation. The 
decision was to have DC 52 lead them in, drop off DC 51 back at Andrews and 
then DC 52 would proceed out to their scheduled AAR. 459th Ops would coordinate 
the delay in AAR with the receivers. DC 51 landed without incident.

In the end the situation was worked out but it was a unique insight into the 
close workings between the aircraft in the air, Potomac controllers on the 
ground and the Operations folks at Andrews.  The Potomac controller was " first 
class" and in my estimation handled the situation very professionally and 
smoothly considering the very busy local air situation at the time.


RON
MARYLAND, USA
PRO-2045 W/D-130J DISCONE
From wsrlists at insightbb.com  Fri Jul 30 15:22:59 2004
From: wsrlists at insightbb.com (wsr)
Date: Fri Jul 30 15:27:11 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Mount Comfort (Indianapolis) Thunderbird frequencies
	confirmed
Message-ID: <410A59C3.29151.E03D83@localhost>

Just got back from watching the Thunderbirds practice show at Mount
Comfort airport just east of Indianapolis.  The following freqs were 
confirmed:

141.850 Diamond
235.250 Solos

There was what I consider a BIG incident during the practice.  We were 
watching the show from south of the airport when an A-10 came in from the
south at 2000 feet right toward show center.  He veered slightly to the
east, but the practice show had to be stopped.  At the time the A-10 was 
passing directly off the east end of the runway, the diamond formation was 
heading straight toward him.  Someone REALLY screwed up on that one. 

I have the audio captured on my PC.  I'll try to get it converted to an
MP3 file and find a place to post it.  I don't have a web site, so if anyone
has a place to post it, let me know.


Scott Richardson




From jmayson at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 16:50:51 2004
From: jmayson at gmail.com (Mayson, John)
Date: Fri Jul 30 16:55:05 2004
Subject: Fwd: [MilCom] Ft. Hood Range Control
In-Reply-To: <6dc7102804073007505f425c4c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.BSI.4.21.0407301005440.26899-100000@granite.sover.net>
	<6dc7102804073007505f425c4c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6dc710280407301350411324b@mail.gmail.com>

I just noticed my response only went to Jim.  :-)


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mayson, John <jmayson@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 09:50:42 -0500
Subject: Re: [MilCom] Ft. Hood Range Control
To: Jim Lawrence <jimmylaw@sover.net>

> Is anyone hearing Ft. Hood range control on 30.45?  They been absent from
> my loggings this summer.  Are they still using that freq.?

Fort Hood uses the TXU TRS and I believe 30.45 is linked to the TRS.
However I think aircraft need to use that frequency too and in general
aircraft don't carry EDACS radios, so I would think the frequency is
still in use.

I can't hear it in Austin.  I'm guessing I'm too close for skip, too
far for ground wave.

--
John Mayson
jmayson@gmail.com
Austin, Texas, USA



-- 
John Mayson     
jmayson@gmail.com
Austin, Texas, USA
From jmayson at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 16:52:12 2004
From: jmayson at gmail.com (Mayson, John)
Date: Fri Jul 30 16:56:25 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Ft. Hood Range Control
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSI.4.21.0407301905290.10276-100000@granite.sover.net>
References: <Pine.BSI.4.21.0407301905290.10276-100000@granite.sover.net>
Message-ID: <6dc71028040730135276cd7e04@mail.gmail.com>

> I was afraid they'd abandoned it or reduced their power.  Ft. Hood was a
> frequent snag for me in the past but I haven't heard them this summer.

Is it possible they've scaled back training because everyone is in Iraq?

Okay, they're probably training MORE so they can rotate troops.  I
don't know.  I'm rarely up near the Fort.  That's the only time I've
heard the frequency used.  I'm too far away to hear the TRS.

-- 
John Mayson     
jmayson@gmail.com
Austin, Texas, USA
From webbfeat at 1s.net  Fri Jul 30 19:39:52 2004
From: webbfeat at 1s.net (Steve Douglass)
Date: Fri Jul 30 19:46:44 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Cannon AFB open house
Message-ID: <p06002004bd308c5e5ace@[69.6.181.55]>

By any chance anyone going to the Cannon AFB open house on Sept 25? 
I and a few local milcom buddies are planning on attending. If anyone 
else is, please let me know. They usually put on a great show.

-Steve Douglass
-- 
"I have spent the majority of my life listening to shortwave radios 
and scanners, but the rest of it I've wasted."
From mystic at ikansas.com  Fri Jul 30 21:24:15 2004
From: mystic at ikansas.com (GG)
Date: Fri Jul 30 21:30:10 2004
Subject: [MilCom] 
	30 JULY 2004 - KANSAS; SOUTHERN NEBRASKA; NORTHERN OKLAHOMA;
	CENTRAL & WESTERN MISSOURI LOG
Message-ID: <005a01c4769d$3a85b240$c9cb2740@u5a3b0>

316.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE PRIMARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
1403Z - WIZARD de TOPCAT-38 (multiple calz - NO JOY)
1454Z - WIZARD de TOPCAT-38,  030/98 & rqst ROMEO-01
1530Z - WIZARD de GOLIATH-BRAVO
1532Z - SMOKY de LOBO-41 FLIGHT
1713Z - SCALP-93 checking in

304.900 (SMOKY HILL KSANG RANGE SECONDARY: SMOKY & WIZARD)
1535Z - WIZARD de GOLIATH-BRAVO

363.200 (KZKC SALINA)
1755Z - SCALP-93 @ 3000 ft ready to RTB BARKSDALE
2003Z - VANDY-21

296.600 (KZKC SALINA HIGH DISCRETE)
0326Z - CZAR-85 FLIGHT climbing to the BLOCK 35 - 370; push 360.85

360.850 (KZKC NORTHEAST KANSAS HIGH DISCRETE)
0333Z - CZAR-85 FLIGHT in the climb for BLOCK 35 - 37; climbing 390 - 410;
go 273.45

307.070 (KZKC UI/UL HIGH DISCRETE)
0020Z - CZAR-83

273.450 (KZKC UI/UL HIGH DISCRETE)
0346Z - CZAR-85 FLIGHT; go 321.3 (no joy & evidently same for them based on
conversation on 388.85, was supposed to be a "discrete" freq per ATC)

285.400 (KZKC EMPORIA)
1723Z - FAST-52 281.45
1803Z - SCALP-93 is single ship

279.600 (KZKC COLUMBIA)
0034Z - CZAR-83

323.150 (KZKC SEDALIA)
0035Z - CZAR-83 passing 31.5 for 240

337.400 (KZKC HUTCHINSON)
1525Z - ALLY-10

277.400 (KZKC SPRINGFIELD)
2053Z - COOL-51
2053Z - FAST-53

307.200 (KZMP HASTINGS)
0325Z - CZAR-85, go 296.6

127.725 (KZKC EMPORIA)
1458Z - TUBRO-71

128.750 (KZMP LINCOLN)
0251Z - HUSKER-25

135.100 (KZMP HASTINGS)
0147Z - HAPPY-64 checks in looking for TOPCAT-86 for AR on PAWNEE-LAMONI AR
TRACK

139.700 (114th FW SDANG; SOUIX FALLS, SOUTH DAKOTA: VICTOR-13)
1527Z - LOBO-41 w/ LOBO-42

388.850 (509th BOMB WING; WHITEMAN AFB: A-2-A)
0330Z - CZAR-85 w/ CZAR-86

305.500 (AR-330)
1438Z - TURBO-71 conduct AR OPNS w/ TURBO-72

297.300 (PAWNEE-LAMONI AR TRACK PRIMARY)
0131Z - KANZA-67 (580126) co-ordinating to conduct AR OPNS w/ TOPCAT-58
(62-4219)
0148Z - TOPCAT-86 de HAPPY-64; 64 de 68 go AR SECONDARY

396.200 (PAWNEE-LAMONI AR TRACK SECONDARY)
0150Z - HAPPY-64 co-ordinates w/ TOPCAT-86 to conduct AR OPNS

134.850 (KICT APP - DEP)
1734Z - REACH-4517

326.200 (KEND APP)
1941Z - HYDRA-34
1957Z - HYDRA-57

344.600 (KSZL METRO)
0022Z - CZAR-83
0354Z - CZAR-85
0412Z - REACH-02, rqsting current & forecast @ 0500Z for SCOTT AFB
0639Z - JOSA-617 out of SCOTT AFB enroute COS

259.600 (155th ARW NEANG; LINCOLN, NEBRASKA: HUSKER CONTROL & A-2-A)
0024Z - "GREEN COMMS ATTEMPT"  followed by:
HUSKER-25 w/ HUSKER-26 on COMM-2: try day 30 & see if that makes a
difference.  Ready for mickey on COMM-1, channel 2?  Go 00.25
0309Z - HUSKER CONTROL de HUSKER-25

286.500 (190th ARW KSANG; FORBES FIELD: WYLIE CONTROL)
1507Z - WYLIE-03 abn 1503Z

311.000 (COMMAND POST)
0323Z - SHOCKER MAINT. de KANZA-67; 20 minutes out, 26K on the fuel, 0
write-ups & parking.  Rg, BRAVO-22.  Could you have transportation pick us
up @ 0345Z @ BRAVO-22?  Crew of 3.
0433Z - SHOCKER MAINT de TURBO-75; 30 minutes out, 48K on the  fuel, 1
write-up (boom will not go more than 10 degrees right) & looking for parking
BRAVO-06
1854Z - ______ de SENTRY-41, rqst pp to DSN 884-2011.  RAYMOND-24 de
SENTRY-41 (passes status report)

321.000 (COMMAND POST)
0318Z - SHOCKER CONTROL de KANZA-67; 20 minutes out w/ 0 write-ups.  Calz
SHOCKER MAINT & told to contact them on 311.0
1708Z - SHOCKER CONTROL w/ REACH-4517 w/ TURBO-94: someone landing 1735Z w/
30K on fuel; 9 paxs & rqst Customs (either 4517 or 94)
381.300 (COMMAND POST)
0404Z - CZAR-85

364.200 (AICC)
1503Z - TOPCAT-38 de GOLIATH_BRAVO
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHECK & CLEAR 6
73
walt
38-54-14.601N / 097-14-09.074W

From wb9omc at nlci.com  Fri Jul 30 21:54:00 2004
From: wb9omc at nlci.com (Duane Mantick)
Date: Fri Jul 30 21:56:11 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Indy Air Show
In-Reply-To: <002201c4661b$10a33ca0$2d11fea9@Mike>
Message-ID: <000701c476a1$4012c280$c86040ce@nlci.com>

Want to see if anyone has a fairly comprehensive list of 
T-bird freqs being used in the last couple weeks.  I know
some stuff was posted here but I think mostly on the
Blue Angels.  I am back checking my INBOX but if anyone
complied the info, please pas it along.  Show is tomorrow
and Sunday.

Duane
WB9OMC


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> To: MilCom@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [MilCom] Indy Air Show
> 
> 
> Thunder Birds will be there.
> 
> http://www.indyairshow.com/
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From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Fri Jul 30 23:14:44 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul 30 23:19:04 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 30 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <60.4205813b.2e3c68a4@aol.com>

Busy Friday again.

121.00:  JOSA-547, (C-21A, Andrews), land; then on to Camp Guernsey, WY.
239.025: TOPGUN-23, flight of 2, (F/A-18, NSAWC, Fallon), land Colorado 
Springs. Caught them later headed westbound.
239.025: TOPGUN-25, flight of 3, (F/A-18, NSAWC, Fallon), land Colorado 
Springs.
372.20:  JOSA-975, (C-21A, Peterson), takeoff Colorado Springs.
239.025: ?SKIN?-1, (Unk), land Colorado Springs. (Sounded like fighter type)
121.00:  REACH 6009, (C-130, Little Rock), land; then on to Little Rock.
289.40:  VOLT-55, (C-17A, Charleston) fly-by AF Academy. ((Appeared to be a 
few more fly-bys at the Academy, but missed them due to incessant blatherings 
of Buckley's Army Guard helis that decided to fly en masse today and clutter up 
the freqs.))
291.675: HOBO-51, flight of 2, (F/A-18C, VFA-94, Lemoore), land; then on to 
Millington.
291.675: HOBO-21, (F/A-18C, VFA-94, Lemoore), land.
121.00:  NASA-961, (T-38N, Ellington), land; then on to Amarillo.
239.025: BALL-30, (T-37B, Vance), land Colorado Springs.
228.45:  SNAPPER-1, (?E-2C, NADEP, North Island?), requesting WX between 
Denver and Grand Junction. Pretty ugly, so decided to take the southern route to 
San Diego via Albuquerque. ((Is at FL 240 and storms over the mountains are to 
40,000 feet and growing))
291.675: SHEP-16, (T-37B, Sheppard), land.
372.20:  SNAPPER-1, (?E-2C?) trying to call Albuquerque Base Ops.
291.675: KNIGHT-21, flight of 2, (F/A-18C, VMFA-314, Miramar), land.
291.675: ANGEL-21, (F/A-18A, VMFA-321, Andrews), land.
291.675: KNIGHT-31, flight of 2, (F/A-18C, VMFA-314, Miramar), land.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Fri Jul 30 23:21:54 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul 30 23:26:16 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/30/04
Message-ID: <83.11ee8317.2e3c6a52@aol.com>

Not a bad Friday here.

ARMY-90104 (UC-35) 120.75>121.0>125.7, takeoff Dobbins. (Return arund 1735z)

ARMY-01051 (UC-35, 2-228th AVN, # 00-01051) 120.75>126.975, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared to Augusta (KAGS). (Return around 1650z)

LOCKHEED-5551 (C-130J, CA-ANG, Lockheed Test) 120.75>121.0>132.05, takeoff 
Dobbins. Cleared Round Robin. (Return around 1450z)

NAVY JS-529 (C-9, NAS Atlanta, VR-46) 120.75>134.125>121.0>133.1, takeoff 
Dobbins. Cleared to Chattanooga (KCHA). (Return around 1525z)

?GATOR?-214 (??) 120.75>126.975>284.7>254.35>270.6, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared 
to Navy Oceana (KNTU). (Radio sounded liked a T-45s & was a jet acft. Anyone 
catch him let me know.)

GUARD-16093 (OH-58, Dobbins) 120.75,.takeoff Dobbins. (Return around 1700z)

COBB-50 flight of 2 (C-130, Dobbins, 94th AW) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff 
Dobbins. Cleared to Augusta (KAGS). (Return around 1745z)

JOSA-625 (C-21, Andrews, 457th AS, # 84-0076) 134.125, lands Dobbins. (Rqst 
2k lbs of fuel 2 pax dropoff). (Depart around 2020z, Cleared to Andrews (KADW))

GATOR-11 flight of 2 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta, VMFA-142) 370.875>268.7, takeoff 
Dobbins. Cleared Round Robin. (Return around 1645z)

FAST-54 (T-38, Whiteman, 509th BW) 346.8, lands Dobbins. (Later depart around 
1700z, Cleared to Langley (KLFI))

HUNTER-91 flight of 2 (F/A-18, NAS JRB Fort Worth, VFA-201) 370.875, lands 
Dobbins. (A/A on 299.5 I believe)

NAVY 7B-881 (UC-12, NAS Atlanta) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared as 
filed. (Return later.)

NAVY JS-887 (C-9, NAS Atlanta, VR-46) 120.75>121.0, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared 
to Navy Fort Worth (KNFW). (Return around 0015z)

GATOR-11 flight of 2 (F/A-18) 370.875, lands Dobbins. (Not the same flight I 
have listed above.)

COBB-30 (C-130, Dobbins, 94th AW) 120.75>126.975, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Pope (KPOB).

GATOR-81 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta, VMFA-142) 370.875>239.275>284.7, takeoff 
Dobbins. Cleared to Navy Andrews/Washington (NSF). (Return around 2250z)

PAT-493 (C-12) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Later depart, Cleared to K#LG)

BRACE-02 (F/A-18) 370.875>239.275, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Navy Oceana 
(KNTU)

GATOR-01 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta, VMFA-142) 370.875>268.7>306.2, takeoff 
Dobbins. Cleared to Navy Pensacola (KNPA).

NAVY JS-988 (C-9, NAS Atlanta, VR-46) 134.125, lands Dobbins.

REACH-805N (C-17, Charleston, 437th AW, # 94-0067) 134.125, lands Dobbins. 
(Later depart around 2220z, Cleared to Greenville-Spartanburg Int'l (KGSP))

KING-24 (HC-130, Patrick? 920th RW) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

DUKE-55 (T-38, Vance, 71st FTW) 336.8, lands Dobbins.

DUKE-99 (T-38, Vance, 71st FTW) 317.575, lands Dobbins.

DUKE-33 (T-38, Vance, 71st FTW) 306.975, lands Dobbins.

DUKE-11 (T-38, Vance, 71st FTW) 346.8, lands Dobbins.
-----------------------------------------
POISON-69 (T-38, Columbus, 14th FTW) w/ Atlanta Cntr; 360.75, FL 230
TALON-40 (??) w/ Atlanta Cntr; (Missed freq.)
------------------------------------------
Adam
Marietta,Ga
From Sabre59 at aol.com  Fri Jul 30 23:26:25 2004
From: Sabre59 at aol.com (Sabre59@aol.com)
Date: Fri Jul 30 23:30:51 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Mount Comfort (Indianapolis) Thunderbird frequencies
	confirmed
Message-ID: <156.3b1fc783.2e3c6b61@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/30/2004 3:25:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
wsrlists@insightbb.com writes:

> At the time the A-10 was 
> passing directly off the east end of the runway, the diamond formation was 
> heading straight toward him.  Someone REALLY screwed up on that one

I watched this happen from the airport grounds and had to do a double-take. 
Hard to believe someone could have made this kind of mistake.  By the way,there 
were actually TWO A-10s approaching. 

Brian,at "The Spot"
From wb9omc at nlci.com  Sat Jul 31 19:09:40 2004
From: wb9omc at nlci.com (Duane Mantick)
Date: Sat Jul 31 19:09:12 2004
Subject: [MilCom] RE: [ScanIndiana] Mount Comfort (Indianapolis) heard from
	Lafayette !!
In-Reply-To: <410A5A1B.5640.E195D6@localhost>
Message-ID: <000101c47753$752b9d40$856040ce@nlci.com>

Hot flash on Mount Comfort show, Saturday.  I wasn't at the show,
but to my surprise at PRECISELY 4 PM local time, with one of my
scanners running on an indoor antenna 141.85 MHz, AM, opened up with
someone giving some kind of oath about protecting the constitution,
etc., etc.

At 4:16PM I began hearing the T-birds on 141.85 with a fairly
strong signal making show calls.  Not bad, as I read my straight
line distance from Lafayette to Mount Comfort as something between
60 and 65 miles.  Indoor antenna is about 10 feet up (having a 
cathedral ceiling in one's home has it's moments  :-)  ) and I was
using the Icom R10 that I will have at the show tomorrow.

I logged:

141.85	4:16PM	strong signal
235.25	4:18PM	weak signal
141.85	4:21PM	strong
141.055	4:27PM	very weak and unreadable
235.25	4:28PM	weak
141.055	4:30PM	very weak and unreadable
141.85	4:30PM	clear call for "pull", etc
141.85	4:31PM	clear calls for maneuvers
141.85	4:35PM	more "pull" calls
141.85	4:38PM	more of the same, good signals
141.85	4:39PM	maneuver calls with comment about being "on time"

by 4:45 PM everything had gone quiet with their show presumably over.

Periodically, I was also seeing some S-meter hits on the radio which
did not break squelch or open up the receiver and trying to pin them
down to a specific frequency eluded me.  However, they were on one or
several of:

140.2
142.0
141.4
140.0
269.9 (maybe - I have this in my T-bird freq bank but set to "skip".
I think that one at a previous show came on just before show time with
some godawful racket that I presumed was a databurst transmission and
therefore didn't want the radio locking up on it)

Would like to get a report tonight to see if anyone else who was either
closer and monitoring can confirm and add any others heard, or who was
at the show and monitoring and can confirm.

Those planning on going tomorrow - I heard from the hams some scuttlebutt
about contacting on the .70 machine pre-show.  Will any of you have FRS
capability AT the show?  I can take the 2-meter HT along if needed but
the FRS rigs are smaller and lighter.  :-)  If you get some email back 
out tonight I can plan my setup accordingly.

Thanks in advance
Duane
WB9OMC


> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [ScanIndiana] Mount Comfort (Indianapolis) Thunderbird
> frequenciesconfirmed
> 
> 
> Just got back from watching the Thunderbirds practice show at Mount
> Comfort airport just east of Indianapolis.  The following freqs were 
> confirmed:
> 
> 141.850 am - Diamond
> 235.250 am - Solos
> 
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From Sandy4218 at aol.com  Sat Jul 31 22:58:30 2004
From: Sandy4218 at aol.com (Sandy4218@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul 31 23:00:08 2004
Subject: [MilCom] KBKF: 31 JUL 2004
Message-ID: <142.2fa515d8.2e3db656@aol.com>

Drill weekend for the Guard; so a fairly busy day.

121.00:  JOSA-559, (C-21A, Peterson), land; then on to Tinker.
275.80:  RIVAL-11, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared to Veta/Chama MOA.
275.80:  REDEYE-11, flight of 3, (F-16, Buckley), cleared to Cheyenne MOA.
319.00:  PETRO-01, flight of ?2?, (KC-10A), with Denver Center; in the Block 
250-270. Will be rendezvousing with Petro-02 flight in about 15 minutes, and 
02 will be dragging the FEUD flight all the way to Hickam. Apparently Center 
tells 01 that (unk) has been cancelled, and 01 wants to know if that will affect 
02 and the FEUD flight. Says 02 flight is already airborne out of Travis and 
will be joining up with 01 in 15 minutes. Answer not heard.
275.80:  ANGEL-21, (F/A-18A, VMFA-321, Andrews), cleared to Navy Fort Worth.
275.80:  SHEP-16, (T-37B, Sheppard), cleared to Kirtland.
275.80:  RIVAL-21, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared to Two Buttes MOA.
275.80:  KNIGHT-31, flight of 2, (F/A-18C, VMFA-314, Miramar), cleared to Two 
Buttes MOA.
275.80:  STUD-21, flight of 2, (F-16, Buckley), cleared to Cheyenne MOA.
275.80:  KNIGHT-33, flight of 2, (F/A-18C, VMFA-314, Miramar), cleared to 
Cheyenne MOA. 
275.80:  STUD-21, flight of 2, sez they will be MARSA with RIVAL, flight of 2 
on takeoff; and will be doing a fly-by at Pikes Peak International Raceway. 
After the fly-by, they will pick up their respective clearances to the 2 MOAs.
275.80:  REDEYE-21, (F-16, Buckley), cleared out on VR-413.
291.675: KNIGHT-32, (F/A-18C, VMFA-314), aborting takeoff. Lost power in #1 
engine.
291.675: REDEYE-21, (F-16, Buckley), inbound with IFE. Lost main generator 
and has flight control problems. RIVAL-21 joins up for chase and all switch to 
"Emergency Common," 269.30. ((Emergency common is a freq that allows Buckley 
Tower, Denver Approach and the aircraft involved in the IFE to all be on a 
common freq for coordination purposes))
372.20:  JOSA-547, (C-21A, Scott), calling Peterson Dispatch.
228.45:  DC-91, (KC-135R, Andrews), requesting WX Kelly 2330Z.
291.675: BALL-22, (T-37B, Vance), land.
275.80:  KNIGHT-31, flight of 2, (F/A-18C, VMFA-314, Miramar), cleared to 
Cheyenne MOA.
291.675: BALL-14, (T-37B, Vance), land.
291.675: HUNTER-91, flight of 2, (F/A-18, VFA-201, Fort Worth), land.

Sandy
Denver, CO
From Airshowfreak5 at aol.com  Sat Jul 31 23:28:04 2004
From: Airshowfreak5 at aol.com (Airshowfreak5@aol.com)
Date: Sat Jul 31 23:29:42 2004
Subject: [MilCom] Dobbins ARB Logs 7/31/04
Message-ID: <d8.10a39598.2e3dbd44@aol.com>

Above average for a Sat.

KING-24 (HC-130, Patrick, 920th RW, # 69-5824) 120.75>121.0>119.8, takeoff 
Dobbins. Cleared to the Barron Intersection (Then pick up clearance back to 
Patrick from Center).

PAT-077 (??) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

GATOR-01 (F/A-18, NAS Atlanta, VMFA-142) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

ARMY-30016 (??) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

NAVY JS-315 (C-9, NAS Atlana, VR-46) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

NAVY JS-266 (C-9, NAS Atlanta, VR-46) 120.75>121.0>133.1, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared to Augusta (KAGS). (Return around 2210z)

BRACE-02 flight of 2 (F/A-18) 370.875, lands Dobbins.

RAKE-13 (T-1, Laughlin, 47th FTW) 134.125, lands Dobbins.

RAKE-96 (T-1, Laughlin, 47th FTW) 120.225, lands Dobbins.

HUNTER-91 flight of 2 (F/A-18, NAS JRB Fort Worth, VFA-201) 370.875>268.7>
284.7 (A/A 299.5), takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to Tinker (KTIK).

RAKE-80 (T-1, Laughlin, 47th FTW) 120.75, lands Dobbins.

DUKE-55 (T-38, Vance, 71st FTW) 370.875>239.275>284.7, takeoff Dobbins. 
(Missed clearance, But from the rest of the group, I'd guess he went to Jax.) 
(Return around 0135z)

NAVY JS-529 (C-9, NAS Atlanta, VR-46, #161529) 120.75>134.125. (Working GCA 
pattern around an hour then in for the night)

HEFTY-22 (C-5, Travis, 60th AMW, Tail# 8023) 120.75, lands Dobbins. (Dropping 
5-6 pax off, picking up to 2 vehicles.) (Anyone know the serial for # 8023? 
Could not find it in the scramble database)

DUKE-99 (T-38, Vance, 71st FTW) 370.875>239.275, takeoff Dobbins. Cleared to 
Jacksonville. (Return around 0215z)

DUKE-11 (T-38, Vance, 71st FTW) 370.875>239.275>284.7, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared to Jakcksonville.

DUKE-33 (T-38, Vance, 71st FTW) 370.875>239.275>284.7, takeoff Dobbins. 
Cleared to Jacksonville.
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JERSEY-70 (KC-135?, NJ-ANG, McGuire, 108th ARW) w/ Atlanta Cntr; (Heard 
JERSEY-70 multicasted over a UHF Cntr freq. Not sure if it was mil or not.)
A/A on 283.7 (Probably T-6A a/a out of Moody, as 283.7 was reported as the 
T-6A East Coast demo team discrete.)
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Adam
Marietta,Ga
