From jydsk at tds.net  Wed Apr  1 16:08:31 2009
From: jydsk at tds.net (Steve Hilsz)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:08:31 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Patch Cords (2 PL-55 Plugs) For Sale
Message-ID: <D2FFACD5BEDE4336B964DEDDF6A4B2DA@warehouse>

New old stock, navy type 491396B patch cords 48 inches long with a PL-55 
plug at each end. $4.00 each plus postage.
http://phonesurplus.com/images/patchcord1.jpg

Steve Hilsz
jydsk at tds.net


From jydsk at tds.net  Wed Apr  1 17:48:15 2009
From: jydsk at tds.net (Steve Hilsz)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:48:15 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Patch Cords Sold
Message-ID: <CA470F76EEF7404DAB72D5A0347D4170@warehouse>

All of my patch cords with PL-55 equivalent plugs are spoken for.

Thanks

Steve Hilsz



From kargo_cult at msn.com  Wed Apr  1 19:21:33 2009
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:21:33 -0800
Subject: [Milsurplus] G.I. Humor
References: <mailman.55.1235062807.19863.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV6F4ADECB560AB29E2AF90E48B0@phx.gbl>

I was reading a "CBI Roundup" newspaper, Delhi, India, 2 March 1944,
and noted these article titles and photo captions:

"Not all Hari-Kiri Boys.
This fellow...wounded...grins ruefully at Uncle Joe (Stillwell) at a
jungle
headquarters. He attempted to shake hands with the general, but the
CBI commander  saw no reason for social amenities...the prisoner was
given a cigarette by one of his Chinese captors...."

"14th A.F. Throws Japanese Yangtze Swim Party"

"Lt. F. Distelzweig enjoys all the comforts of  home sweet home,
as he reclines on his sack reading a sugar report from Stateside".

"The lead plane leaves home to pay an unsocial call to the Japanese
somewhere in Burma that will be most unwelcome".

"This four-engine flying boat was peacefully sitting in a Makin Island
lagoon undergoing repairs when Uncle Sam's planes came over and
made further repairs unnecessary."

via: Hue Miller


From davprin1 at optusnet.com.au  Thu Apr  2 06:10:04 2009
From: davprin1 at optusnet.com.au (Dave)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:10:04 +1000
Subject: [Milsurplus] Range Booster PP-770/1
Message-ID: <005101c9b37b$329b5600$0300a8c0@homemv1kh7ldlj>

G'day all,

I have a range booster made by Telemit for the PRC-25/77 in their vehicle
role as VRC-53/64. It's nomenclature is odd in that it is PP-770/1.

Does anyone have a manual of other info that could be scanned to PDF.
please?

Cheers
Dave
VK4KDP


From cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org  Thu Apr  2 08:20:30 2009
From: cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org (Marty Reynolds)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 08:20:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] G.I. Humor
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV6F4ADECB560AB29E2AF90E48B0@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.55.1235062807.19863.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<BAY109-DAV6F4ADECB560AB29E2AF90E48B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <16745.24.30.81.88.1238674830.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>


Wow Hue - love to see the pic.  Bet it was a Kawanishi copy of the PAA Martin
that disappeared in 6/41


>
> "This four-engine flying boat was peacefully sitting in a Makin Island
> lagoon undergoing repairs when Uncle Sam's planes came over and
> made further repairs unnecessary."
>


  MR

From hoopmonk at snet.net  Thu Apr  2 11:32:02 2009
From: hoopmonk at snet.net (ROBERT WEAVER)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 08:32:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Halli. speaker
Message-ID: <344600.67182.qm@web83815.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I am going to the Tucson hamfest this Sat. and a friend back home in Ct. asked me to look for a speaker for his Halli. SX-115. However I don't know what speaker is correct for that receiver. He said the one without the red in the emblem. Do any of you Halli. people have a little better I.D. than that? Maybe a number? Thanks in advance.
73
Bob W1GTH

From kargo_cult at msn.com  Thu Apr  2 14:03:59 2009
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:03:59 -0800
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCR-284 price, GRC-9 price ?
References: <mailman.67.1238688009.22575.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV355E6E10666A17B1621C8E4880@phx.gbl>

What should I price my SCR-284 at, for a local sale?

BC-654, above average condx but not tested.
FM-41
PE-103, PE-104
power cable
antenna bag with full antenna kit

also:
GRC-9 untested
DY-88
antenna bag with full set

Tnx-  Hue Miller / Newport, OR 

From pal350 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  2 17:26:03 2009
From: pal350 at yahoo.com (Mark)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:26:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] ANNOUNCEMENT: Dayton Hamvention Saturday Fun Nets
Message-ID: <947266.57758.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


The Dayton Hamvention is just around the corner, so here's the
announcement for the three Saturday nets we've been holding each
year. Focus is always on military sets, but everyone who can hit
the mode and frequency for the particular net is welcome.

Saturday, 16 May 2009, in and around the flea market...

AM Net: starting at 12 Noon local time on 3885 kHz AM. Joe WA4VAG 
will be net control. He always brings an unusual mil set to 
call the net with. I can't tell you what it's gonna be because 
even Joe doesn't know until a few days before the event!

HFpack Net: starting at 1 PM local on 18157.5 KHz USB. Yers truly 
is planning on running that one pedestrian mobile from the 
PRC-1099.

Cold War Net: starting at 2 PM local on 51.0 MHz FM. John K9WT 
will do the honors as net control on this one.

After the HFpack Net, meet under the Hara Arena entrance awning 
on the west side of the main building for an eyeball session 
and pictures. 

AS ALWAYS, I ask that people not gather until *AFTER* I close 
the net. Try to move around in the flea market while the net is 
going on. No use in everyone cramming together in one big 
front-end-frying de-sense session!

For the AM and Cold War Nets, meet back at WA4VAG's space (3415) 
for an eyeball session and pix.

I'll post this again as the event gets closer.

--Mark Francis
  KI0PF


      

From pal350 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  2 18:55:00 2009
From: pal350 at yahoo.com (Mark)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 15:55:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Announcing:  MIL SPEC RADIO GEAR VOLUME 2
Message-ID: <336687.13455.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


I'm happy to announce "Mil Spec Radio Gear Volume 2", my new
follow-on to the first book published in 2005.

250+ pages, nearly 300 high-quality illustrations, better-quality
paper, lots of new gear coverage.

I'm introducing MSRG-2 at the Dayton Hamvention, and would like
to hear from those of you who are planning to be there and would like
to buy a copy at that time. It will give me a better idea of how many
to have printed on the first run.

You'll avoid the postage and will be among the very first to receive
a copy.

For details and a first look at the book, including the complete
table of contents, click this link:

http://mmfrancis.com/MSRG2/MSRG2.pdf

No direct orders at this time, please! I'll announce when I'm set
up to accept those some time after Dayton.

--Mark Francis
  KI0PF




      

From jydsk at tds.net  Thu Apr  2 19:17:09 2009
From: jydsk at tds.net (Steve Hilsz)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 16:17:09 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Military Humor
Message-ID: <88840406CB7A4B9BBE2263D6CEA0CD3D@warehouse>

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

>From a1942 Reg Manning cartoon.

Emperor Hirohito is being read a dispatch from Admiral Nagumo at Midway:

"But all it says is, 'We have the enemy in sight. Blub, blub...'"

Steve Hilsz

From olegerityincj at austin.rr.com  Thu Apr  2 20:47:29 2009
From: olegerityincj at austin.rr.com (John Hutchins)
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 19:47:29 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] If I only had 100 of these to sell
Message-ID: <49D55CA1.7000403@austin.rr.com>

ALL -

This is a nice Epay item 320356219252  But with times being what they 
are I don't have dime that big.
A little much but real nice. Ohhhhh!

Later
Hutch

From kk5f at earthlink.net  Fri Apr  3 00:28:49 2009
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 00:28:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] If I only had 100 of these to sell
Message-ID: <28619925.1238732929864.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>This is a nice Epay item 320356219252...

April Fool's day was Wednesday.  

It is clever to give an invalid auction number and provide no
clue of what the item is.

That's why I almost always ignore these deliberately cryptic
ebay postings.  Didn't this time though.  My mistake.

Mike / KK5F


From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Fri Apr  3 01:11:11 2009
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:11:11 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] If I only had 100 of these to sell
References: <28619925.1238732929864.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <00c801c9b41b$190a6c80$8666f504@classified>

When I checked it a few minutes ago, it went to a BC-348Q.

Kurt

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Morrow" <kk5f at earthlink.net>

: It is clever to give an invalid auction number and provide no
: clue of what the item is.
: That's why I almost always ignore these deliberately cryptic
: ebay postings.  Didn't this time though.  My mistake.
: Mike / KK5F


From jupete at bigpond.net.au  Fri Apr  3 02:25:17 2009
From: jupete at bigpond.net.au (Pete Williams)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:25:17 +1100
Subject: [Milsurplus] ADF Bearing Indicator
Message-ID: <1348F497681B4926BE3E941B055D845E@redooffice>

 G'day all... 

I'm putting together ADF system for demonstration... it's a ARN-83 or
commercial Collins type 51-Y4/DF203.
I need a bearing indicator  which is a 400Hz synchro receiver stator
voltages 11.8V when rotor excitation is 26 V.
Whatever is listed in table 3-3 of the ARINC Synchro System manual would
suit... I don't have that info.
Other bearing indicator from MN26 and ARN-6 are of differing excitation
frequencies.
The 'bay have a range of ADF indicators but operating parameters not
stated.
Anyone with any info reference type/mnfr model that I could use feel free to
report in.
I've got the  control box, cabling  and loop.
Thanks 
Pete VK3IZ 



From k2gkk at hotmail.com  Fri Apr  3 07:00:33 2009
From: k2gkk at hotmail.com (D C *Mac* Macdonald)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:00:33 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] If I only had 100 of these to sell
In-Reply-To: <00c801c9b41b$190a6c80$8666f504@classified>
References: <28619925.1238732929864.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<00c801c9b41b$190a6c80$8666f504@classified>
Message-ID: <BLU129-W27193B96FC7BC2C6733214F1890@phx.gbl>


For some unstated reason, eBay cancelled that listing.

When I went to bed last night, I was high bidder at $153.50.

 

Mac - K2GKK/5

Oklahoma City



 
> From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net
> To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:11:11 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] If I only had 100 of these to sell
> 
> When I checked it a few minutes ago, it went to a BC-348Q.
> 
> Kurt
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Morrow" <kk5f at earthlink.net>
> 
> : It is clever to give an invalid auction number and provide no
> : clue of what the item is.
> : That's why I almost always ignore these deliberately cryptic
> : ebay postings. Didn't this time though. My mistake.
> : Mike / KK5F
> 
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From k2gkk at hotmail.com  Fri Apr  3 07:01:56 2009
From: k2gkk at hotmail.com (D C *Mac* Macdonald)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:01:56 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] FW: MC015 eBay Auction 320356219252 - Military
 BC-348-Q Radio Receiver,
 UnusedNOS Condition Canceled - Results Null and Void
In-Reply-To: <610018396.1238731724143.JavaMail.SYSTEM@sq-wbescs1004>
References: <610018396.1238731724143.JavaMail.SYSTEM@sq-wbescs1004>
Message-ID: <BLU129-W1B02286FE33DD71A76429F1890@phx.gbl>



 


Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:08:43 -0700
From: ended at ebay.com
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Subject: MC015 eBay Auction 320356219252 - Military BC-348-Q Radio Receiver, UnusedNOS Condition Canceled - Results Null and Void
















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Hello k2gkk (k2gkk at hotmail.com),

Thank you for your bid on the following listing:

320356219252 - Military BC-348-Q Radio Receiver, UnusedNOS Condition

However, eBay has removed this listing. All bids or offers on this listing have been canceled. Because the listing was ended, you no longer have any obligation to purchase this item. If the seller chooses to relist the item, you're welcome to bid on it again.

Listings are removed for different reasons. For example:
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From frledda at verizon.net  Fri Apr  3 09:35:30 2009
From: frledda at verizon.net (Francesco Ledda)
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 08:35:30 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] ADF Bearing Indicator
In-Reply-To: <1348F497681B4926BE3E941B055D845E@redooffice>
Message-ID: <PAEJKNPPIGMNDLMJLENMGELCHJAA.frledda@verizon.net>

I have been using the ID-250A/ARN indicator with my 51Y-4, for years. If you
like, I can email you pictures of my set up.





-----Original Message-----
From: milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Pete Williams
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 1:25 AM
To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Milsurplus] ADF Bearing Indicator


 G'day all...

I'm putting together ADF system for demonstration... it's a ARN-83 or
commercial Collins type 51-Y4/DF203.
I need a bearing indicator  which is a 400Hz synchro receiver stator
voltages 11.8V when rotor excitation is 26 V.
Whatever is listed in table 3-3 of the ARINC Synchro System manual would
suit... I don't have that info.
Other bearing indicator from MN26 and ARN-6 are of differing excitation
frequencies.
The 'bay have a range of ADF indicators but operating parameters not
stated.
Anyone with any info reference type/mnfr model that I could use feel free to
report in.
I've got the  control box, cabling  and loop.
Thanks
Pete VK3IZ


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From densmore at ntl.sympatico.ca  Fri Apr  3 09:41:52 2009
From: densmore at ntl.sympatico.ca (Keith Densmore)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:41:52 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] FW: MC015 eBay Auction 320356219252 - Military
	BC-348-Q Radio Receiver,
	UnusedNOS Condition Canceled - Results Null and Void
References: <610018396.1238731724143.JavaMail.SYSTEM@sq-wbescs1004>
	<BLU129-W1B02286FE33DD71A76429F1890@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <63C939CD22E243F99CEE7E333EE33E8E@keitha8b21f77c>

If any of you saw the auction for the '348 before it was shut down, it 
showed a huge 'buy in now' price in the description, not in the listing. 
That was bogus,  someone hijacked the sellers password and posted a link 
with his email address.
Something else to watch out for.

73,
Keith


----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "Military Surplus Mail List" <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 7:01 AM
Subject: [Milsurplus] FW: MC015 eBay Auction 320356219252 - Military 
BC-348-Q Radio Receiver, UnusedNOS Condition Canceled - Results Null and 
Void







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However, eBay has removed this listing. All bids or offers on this listing 
have been canceled. Because the listing was ended, you no longer have any 
obligation to purchase this item. If the seller chooses to relist the item, 
you're welcome to bid on it again.

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- The way the item was listed may violate eBay policy.
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unrelated to the listing itself.

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discuss the details of why this listing was ended. However, please note that 
the removal of this listing should not suggest that this seller's standing 
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From pal350 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  3 11:21:49 2009
From: pal350 at yahoo.com (Mark)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:21:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Problems reaching MSRG-2 link
Message-ID: <598349.64648.qm@web51410.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


People are having trouble accessing the book link

http://mmfrancis.com/MSRG2/MSRG2.pdf

I think it's probably due to the ISP blocking 
access due to too many simultaneous accesses.

I'll try to clear this up asap.  My bad. SRI ABT TT.

--Mark
  KI0PF


      

From kf9xk at mtco.com  Fri Apr  3 12:17:18 2009
From: kf9xk at mtco.com (Jim Degenhart)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:17:18 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] Pricing needed
Message-ID: <9C61A7255BFB465599E7767BF943B208@Ragan.local>

Gentelmen
  I am looking to dispose of a couple of pieces of equipment.
The first is a FR-4/U Frequency Standard
http://s671.photobucket.com/albums/vv78/kf9xk/?action=view&current=100_1078.jpg

The secound is a WWV receiver/calibrator

http://s671.photobucket.com/albums/vv78/kf9xk/?action=view&current=100_1079.jpg

Any information as to thier  value would be appreciated.
If I can't get rid of it before Dayton it will probably be there.   My space will be 3420 

Thanks for any info

Jim Degenhart 
KF9XK

From dbd at succeed.net  Fri Apr  3 12:51:38 2009
From: dbd at succeed.net (dbd at succeed.net)
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 09:51:38 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] (no subject)
Message-ID: <20090403095138.vpk7jizpgk8kc8sw@webmail.succeed.net>

dbd at succeed.net

From lobasa at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr  3 14:23:03 2009
From: lobasa at bellsouth.net (lobasa)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:23:03 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] Milsurplus Digest, Vol 60, Issue 4
References: <mailman.67.1238774410.14068.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <4316EF296CC241268E222CA4D48492E2@JamesTanton>


Don't have any problem here at Bellsouth.net , my ISP in
Selma, AL.
    The preview of the book comes in with no problems.
                                             James Tanton
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> People are having trouble accessing the book link
> 
> http://mmfrancis.com/MSRG2/MSRG2.pdf
> 
> I think it's probably due to the ISP blocking 
> access due to too many simultaneous accesses.
> 
> I'll try to clear this up asap.  My bad. SRI ABT TT.
> 
> --Mark
>  KI0PF
> 
> 
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> 
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From k2gkk at hotmail.com  Fri Apr  3 22:38:19 2009
From: k2gkk at hotmail.com (D C *Mac* Macdonald)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:38:19 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] ART-13, BC-348Q, and more
Message-ID: <BLU129-W45AB6E9974D834446B0936F1860@phx.gbl>


You know where.
 
220385182387
 
OR (maybe)

(http://cgi.ebay.com/COLLINS-WW2-B-29-RADIOMANS-POSITION-ART-13-BC348Q_W0QQitemZ220385182387QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item220385182387&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50)
 
73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
Oklahoma City, OK
 

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* -- John Adams (1735- 1826) *

From ramcam at magma.ca  Sat Apr  4 13:33:09 2009
From: ramcam at magma.ca (Ralph Cameron)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 13:33:09 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Aircraft radio CW46051A
Message-ID: <7C54CB0DD13B42008C9023E69F457020@CAMERON>

Have the above radio. Its had a hit on the front panelwhich bent it. I 
removed the dial tuning indicator and it may be possible to remove and 
restore the front panel.The radio is vitually all there with the exception 
of the spline tuning knob. It comes with Ranges Q/M coil set and all tunes. 
One type 77 has a loose grid cap.

Weight is about 25 lbs. and free to any museum or restorer of such 
equipment. All you pay is postage from Ottawa ON.

73
Ralph
VE3BBM 


From robandpj at earthlink.net  Sat Apr  4 17:44:07 2009
From: robandpj at earthlink.net (Robert Flory)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:44:07 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] K-V Transformer Company
Message-ID: <410-2200946421447906@earthlink.net>

This is one of those "ungoogleables" because every site about big transformers contains the letters k and v next to each other.

Anyone ever hear of the K-V Transformer Company, and even better, have a catalog?

I've got a few transformers and chokes to identify.

Rob

From TVComlGuy at aol.com  Sat Apr  4 17:46:04 2009
From: TVComlGuy at aol.com (TVComlGuy at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:46:04 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] Scr-70 BC-23 receiver
Message-ID: <c1b.4ad6c4b1.37092f1c@aol.com>

Good afternoon to the group,
 
I picked up an SCR-70 World War 1 receiver at a hamfest in Tucson this  
morning.  I guess that it is also called a BC-23.  It's a single tube  regen 
receiver using a VT-1 tube.  If anyone has any more information than  that I would 
appreciate hearing from them.  A schematic or instruction  sheet and a VT-1 
tube would be helpful.  I googled it but didn't come up  with much technical 
information.
 
73// Ron Hinze
KB0WAR
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From ramcam at magma.ca  Sat Apr  4 18:00:11 2009
From: ramcam at magma.ca (Ralph Cameron)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:00:11 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Aircraft receiver  RU-16
Message-ID: <A1B623265FCB4308817F64D734EBA829@CAMERON>

The aircraft receiver is no longer available. 

Ralph
VE3BBM

From jfor at quik.com  Sat Apr  4 18:21:06 2009
From: jfor at quik.com (J. Forster)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:21:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Scr-70 BC-23 receiver
In-Reply-To: <c1b.4ad6c4b1.37092f1c@aol.com>
References: <c1b.4ad6c4b1.37092f1c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <2186.12.6.201.52.1238883666.squirrel@pop.quik.com>

You might try August Link. He sold a bunch of WW I stuff on eBay.

-John




> Good afternoon to the group,
>
> I picked up an SCR-70 World War 1 receiver at a hamfest in Tucson this
> morning.  I guess that it is also called a BC-23.  It's a single tube
> regen
> receiver using a VT-1 tube.  If anyone has any more information than  that
> I would
> appreciate hearing from them.  A schematic or instruction  sheet and a
> VT-1
> tube would be helpful.  I googled it but didn't come up  with much
> technical
> information.
>
> 73// Ron Hinze
> KB0WAR
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From WA5CAB at cs.com  Sat Apr  4 18:33:31 2009
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:33:31 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] Scr-70 BC-23 receiver
Message-ID: <c0a.592960cb.37093a3b@cs.com>

I'm not sure where the information came from and turned out not to have the 
manual to confirm it with but my database says that the BC-23 (part of Radio 
Set SCR-70) is an Autodyne receiver tuning 175-500 KC.

In a message dated 4/4/2009 4:21:20 PM Central Standard Time, jfor at quik.com 
writes: 
> >Good afternoon to the group,
> >
> >I picked up an SCR-70 World War 1 receiver at a hamfest in Tucson this
> >morning.  I guess that it is also called a BC-23.  It's a single tube
> >regen
> >receiver using a VT-1 tube.  If anyone has any more information than  that
> >I would
> >appreciate hearing from them.  A schematic or instruction  sheet and a
> >VT-1
> >tube would be helpful.  I googled it but didn't come up  with much
> >technical
> >information.
> >

Robert  Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480

From WA5CAB at cs.com  Sat Apr  4 18:51:28 2009
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:51:28 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] R-584 / MRC-20
Message-ID: <cf7.51899db5.37093e70@cs.com>

Group and several who asked for the info,

I have finished extracting the information on R-584/MRC-20 from the system 
manual.  Cost of a reprint $7.50.  Or $10.00 shipped CONUS, higher elsewhere.

Copy is center-folded, stapled and trimmed.  Not really a lot to it but it 
took nearly three days to scan the main manual and dig through it making sure 
nothing useful was missed and then consolidating it so that there isn't too much 
white space left.  Includes schematic of the modifications (one for BC-348-R 
and one for BC-348-Q), schematic of the Squelch and Noise-Limiter module, 
technical description of how the module works, and some other things like TOC and 
typical usually not too helpful trouble shooting section.  Hopefully if I 
erred in the culling, I did so on the side of keeping too much rather than 
deleting anything useful.

Robert Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480

From TVComlGuy at aol.com  Sat Apr  4 19:22:04 2009
From: TVComlGuy at aol.com (TVComlGuy at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:22:04 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] Scr-70 BC-23 receiver
Message-ID: <d65.35df39ff.3709459c@aol.com>

As always, Bob, you are correct.  I inadvertently put it down as a  regen.
 
73//Ron
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From scr287 at sbcglobal.net  Sat Apr  4 20:10:24 2009
From: scr287 at sbcglobal.net (Jack Antonio)
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:10:24 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] US Military Aircraft Radios - Opinions
In-Reply-To: <19760023.1238880943982.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <19760023.1238880943982.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <49D7F6F0.1080309@sbcglobal.net>

To amplify some of Mike's comments, and add my
2 cents worth to Ken's request.

Calling the AN/ARC-4 a piece of junk is a little harsh,
the set's only real sin is that it was a little ahead
of its time. The designation is a little out of place,
in that the set was really a civilian pre-war set, called the
WE-233A. The Navy started purchasing and using the set
under that designation(I have one with a Navy acceptance
anchor on the front), it received the AN/ARC-4 designation later.

And true, it has a deaf receiver, with no RF stage and
using a mixer tube that wasn't a good VHF performer.

It has been reported that the set was originally developed
for airline use prior to the war, and I've often wondered
what set Western Electric came up with as the ground based
side of the system. It would be interesting to know if
WE used a higher power ground based transmitter to
overcome the aircraft receiver's lack of sensitivity.

On the AN/ARC-3, it  shared the same crystal frequency
multiplication scheme and IF frequency as the SCR-522.

The AN/ARC-3 had no guard channel, but some receivers had
an extra SO-239 on the front panel which tapped into
the IF. I assume it was for a guard channel front end,
but I've never seen any indication it was ever made.

It would be interesting to find out if this input
was ever used operationally for any purpose.


Jack Antonio WA7DIA
scr287 at sbcglobal.net


From kk5f at earthlink.net  Sat Apr  4 22:22:56 2009
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 22:22:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] US Military Aircraft Radios - Opinions
Message-ID: <16754745.1238898176685.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Jack wrote:

>The AN/ARC-3 had no guard channel, but some receivers had
>an extra SO-239 on the front panel which tapped into
>the IF. I assume it was for a guard channel front end,
>but I've never seen any indication it was ever made.

That connection is on the AN/ARC-3A and B models, and the AN/ARC-36
and -49 models.  The manuals refer to it as a connection to the
"guard channel converter."  I have never seen any evidence that
such an animal was ever actually employed with the AN/ARC-3, -36,
or -49.  As an external unit, it would likely have required its
own antenna.

Mike / KK5F



From greg_werstiuk at msn.com  Sun Apr  5 00:39:15 2009
From: greg_werstiuk at msn.com (Greg Werstiuk)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 21:39:15 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] K-V Transformer Company
In-Reply-To: <410-2200946421447906@earthlink.net>
References: <410-2200946421447906@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP181DACD4327123457BF1C79D870@phx.gbl>

Guessing you might have been slightly off with regard to the name, the 2nd
web search I tried found a document referring to them.

Courtesy of a document published by Frederick W. Chesson:

Correct name was K-V Transformer Corp.
They were located in Danbury, CT.

-
Greg



-----Original Message-----
From: milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Robert Flory
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 2:44 PM
To: milsurplus
Subject: [Milsurplus] K-V Transformer Company

This is one of those "ungoogleables" because every site about big
transformers contains the letters k and v next to each other.

Anyone ever hear of the K-V Transformer Company, and even better, have a
catalog?

I've got a few transformers and chokes to identify.

Rob
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From al at ar88.net  Sun Apr  5 00:49:22 2009
From: al at ar88.net (Al Klase)
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 00:49:22 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Scr-70 BC-23 receiver
In-Reply-To: <d65.35df39ff.3709459c@aol.com>
References: <d65.35df39ff.3709459c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <49D83852.8040807@ar88.net>

Actually, an "autodyne" is a regenerative detector operating in the 
oscillating mode to provide it's own "heterodyne" signal (BFO) for CW 
reception.  Generally the only difference is the setting of the feedback 
control.

Al

TVComlGuy at aol.com wrote:
> As always, Bob, you are correct.  I inadvertently put it down as a  regen.
>  
> 73//Ron
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From WA5CAB at cs.com  Sun Apr  5 01:05:06 2009
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 01:05:06 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] Scr-70 BC-23 receiver
Message-ID: <d05.52d2ab95.37099602@cs.com>

Thanks.  I was hoping someone with a better memory or better search engine 
than me would post this.  I had a sneaking suspicion it was something like this 
but information unused for decades fades away.  I just couldn't remember.

In a message dated 4/4/2009 10:50:02 PM Central Standard Time, al at ar88.net 
writes: 
> Actually, an "autodyne" is a regenerative detector operating in the 
> oscillating mode to provide it's own "heterodyne" signal (BFO) for CW 
> reception.  Generally the only difference is the setting of the feedback 
> control.
> 
> Al
> 
> 

Robert & Susan Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480

From arc5 at ix.netcom.com  Sun Apr  5 01:52:07 2009
From: arc5 at ix.netcom.com (David Stinson)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 00:52:07 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] US Military Aircraft Radios - Opinions
References: <19760023.1238880943982.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<49D7F6F0.1080309@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <B739DC49F005492A89C4CA449F8B6291@boudreaux>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack Antonio" <scr287 at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] US Military Aircraft Radios - Opinions


> Calling the AN/ARC-4 a piece of junk is a little harsh,
> the set's only real sin is that it was a little ahead
> of its time....

I agree. 
It was an "evolutionary step" in the march to VHF.

>...The designation is a little out of place,
> in that the set was really a civilian pre-war set, called the
> WE-233A. The Navy started purchasing and using the set
> under that designation (I have one with a Navy acceptance
> anchor on the front), it received the AN/ARC-4 designation later.

I have a commercial control box for this set.  Photos on request.
It has a "Navy anchor" acceptance stamp above the commercial
nomenclature.  It is different from the later ARC-4 control box.
It is derived from the SCR-274N control box, and uses 
the A.R.C.-designed SCR-274N control box connector.
This would mean the WE-233A had to have been on the 
drawing board about the same time as SCR-274N 
(engineering/ prototyping late '39 to '40, production in '40-41 or so), 
and would have been available for commercial use only during
a small window of time, before it was "drafted" 
early in the war.  This box also includes an intercom / radio switch 
not included on the later box.

I think the SCR-522 became the "Cro-Magnon" VHF set in 
the ETO because of the big push to both supply and be
compatible with the Brits.  The WE-233A wasn't "ready 
for prime time", but the SCR-522 
was even more crude and troublesome.

As an aside: I don't personally count the AN/ARC-3 as 
a major contributor to WWII, since it did not see wide
use until after the war.  Most USAAF aircraft equiped with VHF
finished the war with the SCR-522.  
IMHO, it's a cool set, but it's more a vet of Korea than WWII.
It was designed as a fix for the problems of the drifty, 
hard-to-tune 522,
and to get around the problem of the rushed, 
half-baked training of "Radio Mechanics,"
with the resulting mish-mash of mistuned 522s.

Aside 2:  According to the documentation I have,
most of the Navy aircraft that were equipped with
VHF used the AN/ARC-5 MF/HF/VHF/ARR-2 combo.
Many were using ARC-1 (especially heavy aircraft),
but that was not general.  The ARC-1 is a complex,
expensive and hard to mass-produce set, so there
were to few of them available for universal installation,
which is why AN/ARC-5 bits and pieces
are easier to find than those for ARC-1.

73 Dave S.


From k2gkk at hotmail.com  Sun Apr  5 09:41:55 2009
From: k2gkk at hotmail.com (D C *Mac* Macdonald)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:41:55 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] COLLINS WW2 B-29 RADIOMAN'S POSITION ART-13, BC348Q
Message-ID: <BLU129-W283AC80599573A3D42A18F1870@phx.gbl>


I guess this new listing is legitimate?

 

220385182387


73 - Mac, K2GKK

Oklahoma City

From kk5f at earthlink.net  Sun Apr  5 10:19:36 2009
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:19:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] US Military Aircraft Radios - Opinions
Message-ID: <32183437.1238941176511.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Dave wrote:

>I have a commercial control box for this set.  Photos on request.
>It has a "Navy anchor" acceptance stamp above the commercial
>nomenclature.  It is different from the later ARC-4 control box.
>It is derived from the SCR-274N control box, and uses the A.R.C.-designed
>SCR-274N control box connector.
>This would mean the WE-233A had to have been on the drawing board
>about the same time as SCR-274N (engineering/ prototyping late
>'39 to '40, production in '40-41 or so), and would have been
>available for commercial use only during a small window of time,
>before it was "drafted" early in the war.  This box also includes
>an intercom / radio switch not included on the later box.

That describes the C-51/ARC-4 control box, which uses a USN version of
the PL-153.  It also has mic and phone jacks, and a volume control, all
missing on the later simplified C-52/ARC-4A.  (Yesterday I erroneously
refered to this as "C-54/ARC-4" in one of my postings.)  The simplified
control box, which forces use of a jack box like the J-22A/ARC-5 with
integral volume control, is one of the main distinctions between the
AN/ARC-4 and the AN/ARC-4A.  The C-51 is my favorite control box (is that
weird?) because it has in one box every control and connection needed
to utilize the RT-19/ARC-4.

>The WE-233A wasn't "ready for prime time", but the SCR-522 
>was even more crude and troublesome.

IMO, the SCR-522-A is far more capable, and has a much better receiver,
than the AN/ARC-4.  But it is larger and heavier and far more complex,
and provides no guard receiver.  The SCR-522-A is a very important
radio set, while I'm not so sure about the AN/ARC-4.  Even the USN
used some SCR-522-A sets.

>As an aside: I don't personally count the AN/ARC-3 as a major contributor
>to WWII, since it did not see wide use until after the war.  Most USAAF
>aircraft equiped with VHF finished the war with the SCR-522.

It's interesting that there is documentation of some USAAF aircraft (such
as the P-61) being listed as having either two SCR-522-A sets or one AN/ARC-3
set.  It's not uncommon to run across AN/ARC-3 components with early 1945
MFP dates stamped on them.  The B-29A flight manual I have lists the AN/ARC-3.
  
>IMHO, it's a cool set, but it's more a vet of Korea than WWII.

The USAF seems to have been attached to it throughout the 1950s.  They employed
it (or the AN/ARC-36 or -49) along side the AN/ARC-27 UHF command set, for reasons
unknown to me.  The USN during the same period appears to have almost totally
abandoned VHF-AM.

>most of the Navy aircraft that were equipped with VHF used the AN/ARC-5
>MF/HF/VHF/ARR-2 combo.

Re-channeling efforts ignored, the combo that you mention provided quite a bit
of capability per pound and cubic foot for carrier-based aircraft.

>Many were using ARC-1 (especially heavy aircraft), but that was not general.

It would be interesting to know how many AN/ARC-1 sets were flying by war's end.
I have doubts similar to yours.  I suspect that AN/ARC-1 usage peaked AFTER
the war, but only until the UHF RT-58/ARC-12 became available to slide into the
AN/ARC-1 rack in place of the RT-18.  The USN seems to have prosecuted the switch
to UHF with vigor, totally dropping VHF in the process.

>The ARC-1 is a complex, expensive and hard to mass-produce set...

The RT-18/ARC-1 has always seemed Collins-inspired, yet that seems to apply only
to the auto-tune mechanism.  I believe it is principally a Westinghouse creation.
Does anyone on the list have any development history to share?

I've considered a good radio installation to have on an aircraft after WWII would
have been an AN/ARC-1 VHF-AM, AN/ARC-2 HF-AM, AN/ARR-2 VHF homing, and AN/ARN-6 ADF.
Add the USAAF's excellent RC-103-A and AN/ARN-5A ILS and a marker beacon receiver.
What more would one need?  These would have been state of the art around 1946 or 1947.

Mike / KK5F

From wh7hg.hi at gmail.com  Sun Apr  5 20:26:20 2009
From: wh7hg.hi at gmail.com (Michael Tauson)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:26:20 -1000
Subject: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] COLLINS WW2 B-29 RADIOMAN'S POSITION ART-13,
	BC348Q
In-Reply-To: <BLU129-W283AC80599573A3D42A18F1870@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU129-W283AC80599573A3D42A18F1870@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <c34299fb0904051726k2d0363a1ib9f725a59761a556@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 3:41 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I guess this new listing is legitimate?

It may be but the equipment mix isn't nor are his claims that it flew
in either a B-29 or a TBM.  It's a combination of AAF and Navy
equipment that would more likely find a home in later AAF aircraft
that were transfered to the Navy.

BEst regards,

Michael, WH7HG

From wf2u at ws19ops.com  Sun Apr  5 20:39:21 2009
From: wf2u at ws19ops.com (Meir WF2U)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:39:21 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] COLLINS WW2 B-29 RADIOMAN'S POSITION ART-13,
	BC348Q
In-Reply-To: <c34299fb0904051726k2d0363a1ib9f725a59761a556@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU129-W283AC80599573A3D42A18F1870@phx.gbl>
	<c34299fb0904051726k2d0363a1ib9f725a59761a556@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <751F216C963146C78C1CF5428AF9F102@MBDCONSULTING.LOCAL>

I already put a note in the seller's contact option, mentioning his
inconsistency and bringing to his attention the correct receiver option on
Navy aircraft. Also the frequency meter is the Navy LM series.
Will see whether he responds...

73, Meir WF2U
Landrum, SC
-----Original Message-----
From: milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Michael Tauson
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 8:26 PM
To: Military Surplus Mail List; ARC-5 Mail List
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] COLLINS WW2 B-29 RADIOMAN'S POSITION
ART-13,BC348Q

On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 3:41 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> I guess this new listing is legitimate?

It may be but the equipment mix isn't nor are his claims that it flew
in either a B-29 or a TBM.  It's a combination of AAF and Navy
equipment that would more likely find a home in later AAF aircraft
that were transfered to the Navy.

BEst regards,

Michael, WH7HG


From robandpj at earthlink.net  Mon Apr  6 02:41:06 2009
From: robandpj at earthlink.net (Robert Flory)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 02:41:06 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] CR-1A crystals
Message-ID: <410-220094166416421@earthlink.net>

Hi,
Anyone know what equipment uses higher frequency crystals in this package?  I am looking at one for 13324.5kc, and another with CRV-40177 nomenclature for 10066.7kc.

RF

From cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org  Mon Apr  6 07:09:46 2009
From: cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org (Marty Reynolds)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:09:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] US Military Aircraft Radios - Opinions
In-Reply-To: <32183437.1238941176511.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.n
	et>
References: <32183437.1238941176511.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <16577.24.30.81.88.1239016186.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>


Tubes

The ARC-1, '522, ARC-3, & Jurrassic ARC-4/WE233 all had a common
denominator

The squat 832/832A in pairs.  One for final, 2nd for tripler/driver

What a design win for RCA

  Marty

From AAF-Radio-1 at aafradio.org  Mon Apr  6 09:00:10 2009
From: AAF-Radio-1 at aafradio.org (Mike Hanz)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:00:10 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] US Military Aircraft Radios - Opinions
In-Reply-To: <B739DC49F005492A89C4CA449F8B6291@boudreaux>
References: <19760023.1238880943982.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>	<49D7F6F0.1080309@sbcglobal.net>
	<B739DC49F005492A89C4CA449F8B6291@boudreaux>
Message-ID: <49D9FCDA.60900@aafradio.org>

David Stinson wrote:

>I think the SCR-522 became the "Cro-Magnon" VHF set in 
>the ETO because of the big push to both supply and be
>compatible with the Brits.  
>

Absolutely!  The three volume Signal Corps portion of "The US Army in 
World War II records that unequivocally.  It even documents ad-hoc 
installation in tanks to be able to talk with supporting aircraft.

>The WE-233A wasn't "ready 
>for prime time", but the SCR-522 
>was even more crude and troublesome.
>
>As an aside: I don't personally count the AN/ARC-3 as 
>a major contributor to WWII, since it did not see wide
>use until after the war.  Most USAAF aircraft equiped with VHF
>finished the war with the SCR-522.  
>

In the ETO, certainly.  In the Pacific, I'm not so sure, Dave.  Recall 
that enormous efforts were being made the last six months of the war to 
shift resources toward the Pacific as victory in Europe seemed assured, 
and the AN/ARC-3 was a part of that thrust.  Virtually all of the ARC-3 
production for the USAAF would have gone West, if for no other reason 
than to effectively use the manufacturing capability to the maximum 
before the war ended.

>Aside 2:  According to the documentation I have,
>most of the Navy aircraft that were equipped with
>VHF used the AN/ARC-5 MF/HF/VHF/ARR-2 combo.
>

Which seems paradoxical to me, since the SCR-274N VHF set started off as 
a project by the Army's Aircraft Research Laboratory (ARL) at 
Wright-Patterson, specifically intended to make use of the other 274N 
components.  The Army history mentioned above sez that it gave the 
requirement to ARL in June of 1941.  The Bell Laboratories history 
claims that the Labs designed not only the WE-233 before the war for the 
commercial airlines, but also the AN/ARC-1 and ARC-5 VHF sets, and that 
performance was improved significantly only when they designed and 
introduced the 6AK5 pentode.  Of course, the historian also states that 
the VHF ARC-5 had ten remotely selectable channels, clearly confusing it 
with their ARC-1 effort.  In any case, Western Electric eventually 
produced 35,000 of the Army-instigated VHF ARC-5 sets by the end of the 
war, but apparently only the Navy saw the utility in that for their 
aircraft already fitted with the ARA/ATA and made maximum use of the 
production line.  Like they say, timing is everything... :-)

73,
Mike

From Brian at VE3UU.com  Mon Apr  6 09:52:01 2009
From: Brian at VE3UU.com (Brian/VE3UU)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:52:01 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] FS: R-390A panel meters
Message-ID: <8EFCD5F603A440CEB792ADB52E3ADFCA@BrianPC>

I have two of the small panel meters that Fair Radio was selling as replacements for the R-390A meters. Made by Simpson. 1 ma full scale. I've sold the R-390 and don't need the meters. $12 ea plus mailing.

Brian/VE3UU

From ianmwilson73 at gmail.com  Mon Apr  6 13:21:43 2009
From: ianmwilson73 at gmail.com (Ian Wilson)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:21:43 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] R-111/APR-5A available
Message-ID: <7de2d65c0904061021t60e277b8l3227c1c361c20e42@mail.gmail.com>

Part of a SK estate in the LA/Brentwood area.
Local pickup preferred. Picture available.

Dusty, and some corrosion on the top of the cover.

There is also a display unit with CRT and a "Pulses per second"
meter. I can't find an ID in the picture. Could be a panoramic
display for the R-111, or might not.

Offers, etc, off-list please.

I am not the owner, just helping out.

73, ian K3IMW

From jydsk at tds.net  Mon Apr  6 13:59:52 2009
From: jydsk at tds.net (Steve Hilsz)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:59:52 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] 0-50 VDC Panel Meters
Message-ID: <CC0AA5E528C94294AB37B18595DCDAD1@warehouse>

I just uncovered a cache of small 0-50 VDC internal shunt panel meters. 
These are new old stock Shurite P/N 550-5122, FSN 6625-00-010-9813. The 
meter body requires a 2-inch opening, the bezel is about 2 1/4 inches in 
diameter. The meters are equipped with mounting strap. If you are running 24 
VDC equipment, these meters are perfect because they'll read your power 
supply voltage at center-scale. Offered $5 each, post-paid first-class 
domestic mail, discounts available in quantity. PayPal at this email 
address.

http://phonesurplus.com/offer/shurmeter1.jpg
http://phonesurplus.com/offer/shurmeter2.jpg
http://phonesurplus.com/offer/shurmeter3.jpg

Steve Hilsz
jydsk at tds.net 


From ianmwilson73 at gmail.com  Mon Apr  6 14:02:02 2009
From: ianmwilson73 at gmail.com (Ian Wilson)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:02:02 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] R-111/APR-5A available
In-Reply-To: <7de2d65c0904061021t60e277b8l3227c1c361c20e42@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7de2d65c0904061021t60e277b8l3227c1c361c20e42@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7de2d65c0904061102w43fefaf0vd83cf112dd31a9cc@mail.gmail.com>

Display unit identified as ID-33/APA-6. Great list :)

73, ian K3IMW

From robandpj at earthlink.net  Tue Apr  7 04:25:06 2009
From: robandpj at earthlink.net (Robert Flory)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 04:25:06 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Aircraft VHF
Message-ID: <410-220094278256484@earthlink.net>

Hi,

>Aside 2: According to the documentation I have,
>most of the Navy aircraft that were equipped with
>VHF used the AN/ARC-5 MF/HF/VHF/ARR-2 combo.

  Would you care to share that documentation?

I got very few sample points when I asked recently, but I have only come up with Western Electric and Westinghouse as manufacturers for RT-18/ARC-1.

"Evolution of Naval Radio-electronics and Contributions of the Naval Research Laboratory"  by Gerhard says 70,000 ARC-1 sets made by end of war.

LIONFISH  bears an SCR-522 for talking to flyboys.  

RF

From WA5CAB at cs.com  Tue Apr  7 12:30:42 2009
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:30:42 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] Aircraft VHF
Message-ID: <c3f.476f4b58.370cd9b2@cs.com>

No, it's an SCR-624.  Uses the same radio as the SCR-522 and SCR-542 but 
different power supply and control box.  And several accessories are either 
different or added.

In a message dated 4/7/2009 3:25:37 AM Central Daylight Time, 
robandpj at earthlink.net writes: 
> LIONFISH  bears an SCR-522 for talking to flyboys.  
> 

Robert Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480

From jfor at quik.com  Tue Apr  7 12:51:50 2009
From: jfor at quik.com (J. Forster)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:51:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Aircraft VHF
In-Reply-To: <410-220094278256484@earthlink.net>
References: <410-220094278256484@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1316.12.6.201.139.1239123110.squirrel@pop.quik.com>

I've been on the Lionfish several times, but did not see it? Where is it
located?
-John

======


> LIONFISH  bears an SCR-522 for talking to flyboys.
>
> RF



From jfor at quik.com  Tue Apr  7 14:57:18 2009
From: jfor at quik.com (J. Forster)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:57:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Aircraft VHF
In-Reply-To: <c3f.476f4b58.370cd9b2@cs.com>
References: <c3f.476f4b58.370cd9b2@cs.com>
Message-ID: <1868.12.6.201.127.1239130638.squirrel@pop.quik.com>

I'm no guru on the VHF stuff, but, from pictures, it looks like they
separated the Tx and Rx portions of the set, and mounted each on a
separate base. Is that so?

Best,
-John

=============

> No, it's an SCR-624.  Uses the same radio as the SCR-522 and SCR-542 but
> different power supply and control box.  And several accessories are
> either
> different or added.
>
> In a message dated 4/7/2009 3:25:37 AM Central Daylight Time,
> robandpj at earthlink.net writes:
>> LIONFISH  bears an SCR-522 for talking to flyboys.
>>
>
> Robert Downs - Houston
> wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
> MVPA 9480
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From WA5CAB at cs.com  Tue Apr  7 15:14:04 2009
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:14:04 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] Aircraft VHF
Message-ID: <cd9.4d321fe9.370cfffc@cs.com>

I can't speak to what might have been done in some specific case but in the 
standard SCR-624 and in the DF version, no.  When you separate the transmitter 
and/or the receiver from the selector rack and cabinet you lose channel 
selection and mounting capabilities.  Plus you would have to custom make the 
necessary cables as none were made for operating the BC-624 or BC-625 separate from 
the FT-244 (except no doubt a few for Depot use).

The only place I ever recall seeing loose receivers or transmitters is in 
some conversion articles from the late 40's where the transmitter at least was 
mounted behind a standard 19" rack panel with knobs or maybe it was vernier 
drives on the tuning controls.

In a message dated 4/7/2009 1:57:34 PM Central Daylight Time, jfor at quik.com 
writes: 
> I'm no guru on the VHF stuff, but, from pictures, it looks like they
> separated the Tx and Rx portions of the set, and mounted each on a
> separate base. Is that so?
> 
> Best,
> -John
> 
> =============
> 
> >No, it's an SCR-624.  Uses the same radio as the SCR-522 and SCR-542 but
> >different power supply and control box.  And several accessories are
> >either
> >different or added.
> >
> >In a message dated 4/7/2009 3:25:37 AM Central Daylight Time,
> >robandpj at earthlink.net writes:
> >>LIONFISH  bears an SCR-522 for talking to flyboys.
> 

Robert & Susan Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480

From jfor at quik.com  Tue Apr  7 15:20:13 2009
From: jfor at quik.com (J. Forster)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:20:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Aircraft VHF
In-Reply-To: <cd9.4d321fe9.370cfffc@cs.com>
References: <cd9.4d321fe9.370cfffc@cs.com>
Message-ID: <1895.12.6.201.69.1239132013.squirrel@pop.quik.com>

I thought the Rx and Tx were the bread in the sandwich and the selector
rack was the filling in between:

http://www.maritime.org/radio-scr624.htm

??

-John




> I can't speak to what might have been done in some specific case but in
> the
> standard SCR-624 and in the DF version, no.  When you separate the
> transmitter
> and/or the receiver from the selector rack and cabinet you lose channel
> selection and mounting capabilities.  Plus you would have to custom make
> the
> necessary cables as none were made for operating the BC-624 or BC-625
> separate from
> the FT-244 (except no doubt a few for Depot use).
>
> The only place I ever recall seeing loose receivers or transmitters is in
> some conversion articles from the late 40's where the transmitter at least
> was
> mounted behind a standard 19" rack panel with knobs or maybe it was
> vernier
> drives on the tuning controls.
>
> In a message dated 4/7/2009 1:57:34 PM Central Daylight Time,
> jfor at quik.com
> writes:
>> I'm no guru on the VHF stuff, but, from pictures, it looks like they
>> separated the Tx and Rx portions of the set, and mounted each on a
>> separate base. Is that so?
>>
>> Best,
>> -John
>>
>> =============
>>
>> >No, it's an SCR-624.  Uses the same radio as the SCR-522 and SCR-542
>> but
>> >different power supply and control box.  And several accessories are
>> >either
>> >different or added.
>> >
>> >In a message dated 4/7/2009 3:25:37 AM Central Daylight Time,
>> >robandpj at earthlink.net writes:
>> >>LIONFISH  bears an SCR-522 for talking to flyboys.
>>
>
> Robert & Susan Downs - Houston
> wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
> MVPA 9480
> ______________________________________________________________
> Milsurplus mailing list
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>
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> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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>



From WA5CAB at cs.com  Tue Apr  7 15:35:08 2009
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:35:08 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] Aircraft VHF
Message-ID: <cd1.4ba0cb89.370d04ec@cs.com>

No, more like a cracker with two kinds of cheese on it.  The receiver and the 
transmitter plug into the bottom or back side of the rack, side by side.  And 
that assembly is then set down into the CS-80-(*) case or cabinet.  The shock 
mounts are attached to the bottom of the CS-80 and the plate they sit on is 
then clipped to the fixed part of the mount attached to the aircraft.  Or in 
the case of the SCR-624, attached to the bottom of the right-hand chest in the 
photograph at the URL you posted.  The radio is not visible but the light 
colored cable coming from the RA-62-(*) Rectifier Power Supply is plugged into the 
middle of the FT-244.  The BC-1171 (early) or BC-1312 (late) local control box 
plugs into the rack next to the power cable.  It plugs into the connector 
that in the SCR-522 and SCR-542 takes the cable that goes to the BC-602 Control 
Box and (if present) the interphone system.

In a message dated 4/7/2009 2:20:26 PM Central Daylight Time, jfor at quik.com 
writes: 
> I thought the Rx and Tx were the bread in the sandwich and the selector
> rack was the filling in between:
> 
> http://www.maritime.org/radio-scr624.htm
> 

Robert & Susan Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480

From jfor at quik.com  Tue Apr  7 15:52:06 2009
From: jfor at quik.com (J. Forster)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:52:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Aircraft VHF
In-Reply-To: <cd1.4ba0cb89.370d04ec@cs.com>
References: <cd1.4ba0cb89.370d04ec@cs.com>
Message-ID: <1984.12.6.201.69.1239133926.squirrel@pop.quik.com>

OK, thanks very much.
-John

===

> No, more like a cracker with two kinds of cheese on it.  The receiver and
> the
> transmitter plug into the bottom or back side of the rack, side by side.
> And
> that assembly is then set down into the CS-80-(*) case or cabinet.  The
> shock
> mounts are attached to the bottom of the CS-80 and the plate they sit on
> is
> then clipped to the fixed part of the mount attached to the aircraft.  Or
> in
> the case of the SCR-624, attached to the bottom of the right-hand chest in
> the
> photograph at the URL you posted.  The radio is not visible but the light
> colored cable coming from the RA-62-(*) Rectifier Power Supply is plugged
> into the
> middle of the FT-244.  The BC-1171 (early) or BC-1312 (late) local control
> box
> plugs into the rack next to the power cable.  It plugs into the connector
> that in the SCR-522 and SCR-542 takes the cable that goes to the BC-602
> Control
> Box and (if present) the interphone system.
>
> In a message dated 4/7/2009 2:20:26 PM Central Daylight Time,
> jfor at quik.com
> writes:
>> I thought the Rx and Tx were the bread in the sandwich and the selector
>> rack was the filling in between:
>>
>> http://www.maritime.org/radio-scr624.htm
>>
>
> Robert & Susan Downs - Houston
> wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
> MVPA 9480



From robert.h.goff at gmail.com  Tue Apr  7 18:35:19 2009
From: robert.h.goff at gmail.com (Robert Goff)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:35:19 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] TBW connectors?
Message-ID: <ead290cb0904071535t511f3e11k435a354b290134b2@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings to all.

Does anyone know of a source of connectors for the TBW transmitter?

I tried Bill Perry with no luck.

One of the connectors is also used for the LM frequency meter (6 pin).
 There is also a four-pin and 11-pin, both with the larger 1 3/8"
button-lock shell.  I don't know if there is a Signal Corps PL- number
for these or not.

Thanks,
Robert
W7MKA

From jzonfrelli at comcast.net  Tue Apr  7 19:59:47 2009
From: jzonfrelli at comcast.net (jzonfrelli at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:59:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Antenna tuner for sale or trade.
Message-ID: <192349673.4661661239148787443.JavaMail.root@sz0078a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

I have a cu1782/grc-165 antenna tuner for sale or trade. It has two roller inductors
with a counter for each and switched capacitors. It has a swr meter on the front.
I believe it was used to tune a 12 foot whip antenna from 2 to 15 megahertz.
It is in excellent condition.
Joe
af0w

From robandpj at earthlink.net  Tue Apr  7 20:46:42 2009
From: robandpj at earthlink.net (Robert Flory)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:46:42 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCR-522(not) on LIONFISH
Message-ID: <410-2200943804642250@earthlink.net>

I'm told that it is actually an SRC-2, another system that uses the same radio.

RF


----- Original Message ----- 
From: 
To: robandpj at earthlink.net;milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
Sent: 4/7/2009 12:30:48 PM 
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Aircraft VHF


No, it's an SCR-624.  Uses the same radio as the SCR-522 and SCR-542 but different power supply and control box.  And several accessories are either different or added.

In a message dated 4/7/2009 3:25:37 AM Central Daylight Time, robandpj at earthlink.net writes: 

LIONFISH  bears an SCR-522 for talking to flyboys.  



Robert Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480 

From robandpj at earthlink.net  Tue Apr  7 21:08:29 2009
From: robandpj at earthlink.net (Robert Flory)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:08:29 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] More Aircraft VHF
Message-ID: <410-220094381829515@earthlink.net>

October/November 1944 Leyte Invasion Op Plan , Communication Plan:

http://ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/rep/Leyte/OpPlan/13-44-G.html#A2

Lists a lot of frequencies.  All of the VHF air frequencies are in the 140-144Mc band, the band covered by ARC-4.  

An interesting tidbit is the mention of low band VHF 37.6, 43.3Mc  use between Fighter Directors.  Reckon that's one possible role for the Galvin (pre-Motorola) set in VHF compartment on MASSACHUSETTS.  

RF

From jydsk at tds.net  Tue Apr  7 23:37:25 2009
From: jydsk at tds.net (Steve Hilsz)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:37:25 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Permanent Link to Meters
Message-ID: <314F797BFB094993B0D3E67005F917C2@mycomputer>

Here's the permanent URL if anybody needs more 0-50 VDC Panel Meters for 
their projects. These read 24 volts at center scale, so they're great for 
your military stuff: http://phonesurplus.com/meterpage.html

Steve Hilsz 


From cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org  Wed Apr  8 07:54:56 2009
From: cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org (Marty Reynolds)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:54:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Morale radio mfgr.s?
In-Reply-To: <314F797BFB094993B0D3E67005F917C2@mycomputer>
References: <314F797BFB094993B0D3E67005F917C2@mycomputer>
Message-ID: <17578.24.30.81.88.1239191696.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>


First please look at this Detrola radio

    http://www.radioatticarchives.com/radio.htm?radio=4753

A "AA5" radio with both BC & SW for 110 AC/DC.  Looks like a GI sorta
box, eh?

It's in Sams #9 & so was built with tooling probably unused during ww2.
And it was tooling from, probably, DeWald radio which had, additionally,
an autoformer to run it on 220 in UK locations

I contend it was a candidate as a morale radio like the R-100.

                    http://qsl.asti.net/R-100/

And it flunked

There's another example here called a Ansley 45A.  This is haze gray,
clearly built in '41 or so, and is a 6 tube AC/DC wuth a TRF atage.
Picture on request

Anyone out there share this suppositions that a few mfgr.s made these
babes in hopes that fed orders would follow for morale radios?

As said in "Field of Dreams,"  "Build it & they will come"

   Marty




From antqradio at sbcglobal.net  Wed Apr  8 09:45:51 2009
From: antqradio at sbcglobal.net (Jim Whartenby)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:45:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] CR-1A crystals
Message-ID: <658367.32958.qm@web82703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


How abount the AN/ARN-5?
Jim

Hi,
Anyone know what equipment uses higher frequency crystals in this package?  I am looking at one for 13324.5kc, and another with CRV-40177 nomenclature for 10066.7kc.

RF




From n7rk at cox.net  Wed Apr  8 10:04:25 2009
From: n7rk at cox.net (n7rk at cox.net)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:04:25 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Morale radio mfgr.s?
In-Reply-To: <17578.24.30.81.88.1239191696.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>
Message-ID: <20090408100425.TYO6Z.496203.imail@fed1rmwml39>

Hi Marty - I have one of those Detrola's as in the picture. They are actually pretty common. Have seen lot's  of them over the years on evil bay.

They also made version of this radio which is all chrome.

73,

Dave N7RK

From w2obr at comcast.net  Wed Apr  8 10:15:04 2009
From: w2obr at comcast.net (W2OBR)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:15:04 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] R-392 Repairs
Message-ID: <946767C910E245678F07BC27D704D8B7@richard9c58e97>

Is anyone in the NJ, Pa, or De area doing repair work on the R-392 receivers?
Rich ( W2OBR )

From kargo_cult at msn.com  Wed Apr  8 12:36:18 2009
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:36:18 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Low VHF
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3709.1239192047.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.3709.1239192047.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <SNT109-W36D967A50517F4B3FBFEB6E4820@phx.gbl>




> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:08:29 -0400
> From: "Robert Flory" <robandpj at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [Milsurplus] More Aircraft VHF
> October/November 1944 Leyte Invasion Op Plan , Communication Plan:
> 
> http://ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/rep/Leyte/OpPlan/13-44-G.html#A2
> 
> Lists a lot of frequencies. All of the VHF air frequencies are in the 140-144Mc band, the band covered by ARC-4. 
> 
> An interesting tidbit is the mention of low band VHF 37.6, 43.3Mc use between Fighter Directors. Reckon that's one possible role for the Galvin (pre-Motorola) set in VHF compartment on MASSACHUSETTS. 


That's MN equipment. ( Is that the correct name?) Low band FM. I saw a photo of a radio "box" on the sands of Iwo and couldn't place it until i looked at

the MN manual. -Hue Miller

From cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org  Wed Apr  8 15:15:40 2009
From: cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org (Marty Reynolds)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:15:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Low VHF
In-Reply-To: <SNT109-W36D967A50517F4B3FBFEB6E4820@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.3709.1239192047.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<SNT109-W36D967A50517F4B3FBFEB6E4820@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <49356.76.17.118.108.1239218140.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>


> fighter direction on 38mc & MN gear on iwo

Galvin set is the 1st moto 9m police car fm.  Boy did they
hate Link's muscling them into that business

From brunneraa1p at comcast.net  Wed Apr  8 21:23:22 2009
From: brunneraa1p at comcast.net (Richard Brunner)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:23:22 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] TBW connectors?
In-Reply-To: <ead290cb0904071535t511f3e11k435a354b290134b2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ead290cb0904071535t511f3e11k435a354b290134b2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1239240202.15734.11.camel@owner-desktop>

Re:
> Does anyone know of a source of connectors for the TBW transmitter?

No, but you can make your own.  2-way bullet solderless connectors make
a good fit on the banana pins.  Buy Mouser ME-159-1501, cut off the
plastic sleeve, solder a wire to one end, and make your own connector.
Works fine for me...

Richard, AA1P


From grasshopper at epix.net  Wed Apr  8 22:43:02 2009
From: grasshopper at epix.net (Steve Gajkowski)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:43:02 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] TBW connectors?
In-Reply-To: <1239240202.15734.11.camel@owner-desktop>
Message-ID: <20090409024300.83564ABC21@relay01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

Can also use female banana plug jacks..

-----Original Message-----
From: milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Richard Brunner
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:23 PM
To: Robert Goff
Cc: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] TBW connectors?

Re:
> Does anyone know of a source of connectors for the TBW transmitter?

No, but you can make your own.  2-way bullet solderless connectors make
a good fit on the banana pins.  Buy Mouser ME-159-1501, cut off the
plastic sleeve, solder a wire to one end, and make your own connector.
Works fine for me...

Richard, AA1P

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From olegerityincj at austin.rr.com  Thu Apr  9 07:59:20 2009
From: olegerityincj at austin.rr.com (John Hutchins)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 06:59:20 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] A source for Purchasing Tubes - question;
Message-ID: <49DDE318.3080004@austin.rr.com>

Good mourning Group -


A question to anyone in th egroup : purchase tubes from:
http://www.dailyelectronics.net/
If so how was your experience ?  The web site looks  a little thin, is 
the reason I am asking.


Thanks
Hutch

From jfor at quik.com  Thu Apr  9 09:53:43 2009
From: jfor at quik.com (J. Forster)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:53:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] A source for Purchasing Tubes - question;
In-Reply-To: <49DDE318.3080004@austin.rr.com>
References: <49DDE318.3080004@austin.rr.com>
Message-ID: <1115.12.6.201.38.1239285223.squirrel@pop.quik.com>

I have no direct experience, but it looks like Electro Sales in Boston
years ago. They would size up the customer, then quote an (always high)
price.

FWIW,
-John



> Good mourning Group -
>
>
> A question to anyone in th egroup : purchase tubes from:
> http://www.dailyelectronics.net/
> If so how was your experience ?  The web site looks  a little thin, is
> the reason I am asking.
>
>
> Thanks
> Hutch



From david_jackson at agilent.com  Thu Apr  9 14:52:37 2009
From: david_jackson at agilent.com (david_jackson at agilent.com)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:52:37 -0600
Subject: [Milsurplus] URC-4 Cable wanted CX-1093
In-Reply-To: <mailman.65.1239292810.15007.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.65.1239292810.15007.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <DA0A9F8C68DA3045BAABC4630DF8000D027933EB@cos-us-mb03.cos.agilent.com>

Anyone have a CX-1093 cable for a URC-4 they want to sell?

Sincerely,
 
Dave, WA4OBJ


From jydsk at tds.net  Thu Apr  9 22:25:45 2009
From: jydsk at tds.net (Steve Hilsz)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:25:45 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Field Phone or Radio Remote Handset Elements
Message-ID: <5FE65FFE624340198A5B053845979509@mycomputer>

Just a note that the following URL is a permanent link to replacement carbon 
cartridge transmitter elements and bi-polar cartridge receiver elements for 
many applications including telephone handsets for Field Phones and Radio 
Remotes:
http://phonesurplus.com/elementspage.html

Thanks

Steve Hilsz
jydsk at tds.net


From jhhaynes at earthlink.net  Thu Apr  9 22:45:53 2009
From: jhhaynes at earthlink.net (Jim Haynes)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 21:45:53 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Field Phone or Radio Remote Handset Elements
In-Reply-To: <5FE65FFE624340198A5B053845979509@mycomputer>
References: <5FE65FFE624340198A5B053845979509@mycomputer>
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0904092140410.4205@localhost.localdomain>

Thanks.  For more recent stuff I have got elements from Mike Sandman in
Chicago.  Such as elements for the H-156/U handset which will take a
standard Western Electric carbon element.  He also has an electret
element that will replace the carbon element in a W.E. handset.  It's
made for modular-cord handsets but I was able to cobble it into the
H-156/U.



jhhaynes at earthlink dot net


From nick at 3rdtech.com  Fri Apr 10 10:49:53 2009
From: nick at 3rdtech.com (Nick England)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:49:53 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] AN/FCC-3 parts from Kalamazoo to Dayton hamfest?
Message-ID: <AE63E2C603574F7D8590A51FD1303FE6@Heathkit2>

I've made a trade for three AN/FCC-3 rack-mount units (about 8" high each).
Can anyone from the Kalamazoo area haul them to the Dayton hamfest? - I'll
chip in $20 to help on gasoline.
thanks,
Nick K4NYW  
Chapel Hill NC



From scr287 at sbcglobal.net  Fri Apr 10 15:44:40 2009
From: scr287 at sbcglobal.net (Jack Antonio)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:44:40 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Fisher TS25-3 Transmitter
Message-ID: <49DFA1A8.7040807@sbcglobal.net>

Hi All

The Fisher TS-25 (and its mate the RS-25 receiver) were
the civilian versions of the AN/VRC-4 radio set. The AN/VRC-4
components are slighty larger, and have a built in CW capability.
It looks like the military did buy both, as the AN/VRC-4 manual
covers both the military and civilian sets.

A couple of years ago, I put out a request for VRC-4
components, and acquired an R-114/VRC-4 receiver, and
a TS-25 transmitter(and a sincere thank you to the list
members that supplied them).

Recently, I picked up the matching T-91/VRC-4 transmitter,
which leaves the TS-25 as an orphan.

SO, I am offering the TS-25 to anyone who has an RS-25
receiver and is looking for its mate.

Any takers? Again, I'm going to give preference to those
who already have an RS-25 receiver.

My interest in the AN/VRC-4 stems from my time
in CAP in high school. The squadron had an old
Ford Panel truck with an AN/VRC-4 installed (on 4585kc)
as a mobile command post.

Thanks

Jack Antonio WA7DIA
scr287 at sbcglobal.net


From n2lxm at juno.com  Fri Apr 10 19:19:03 2009
From: n2lxm at juno.com (n2lxm at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:19:03 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] More Storage Area finds
Message-ID: <20090410.191905.680.6.n2lxm@juno.com>

Greetings Again,


        Well the finds keep popping up. For those of you who are building
BIG RF AMPS I found two boxes of five(  5 ) each Bud TC-1926 Heat
Radiating Connectors. This are Polished Aluminum Caps used for plate
connections. If any one needs some contact me off the reflector. And
while I was in there I came across a Ameco PT Preamplifier, this is the
one used with transceivers. I am looking for a manual or a copy of one.
This is the Older Version for it has a tube( 6EH6 ) and not a transistor.
Any help in find the information will be greatly appreciated.


                                Jeff N2LXM
                  AMATEUR RADIO OPERATOR
                                AMERICAN
                                  PATRIOT
                  Proud Father of two US MARINES
____________________________________________________________
Are you a project manager?  Get a PMP certification to enhance your career and earn more.
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTOZAo5Zx5cj9s76T6CJn47Y9VcSp9GPrWKAECRnX55tbm9XLvmjkc/

From w2obr at comcast.net  Fri Apr 10 19:45:56 2009
From: w2obr at comcast.net (W2OBR)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:45:56 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] T-368
Message-ID: <F01E051AA458414F964CCBBF05B5DD5E@richard9c58e97>

I have (3) HV Plate Transformers for the T-368 forsale. $230.00 each includes shipping to the lower 48 states.
w2obr at comcast.net

From robandpj at earthlink.net  Sat Apr 11 06:15:54 2009
From: robandpj at earthlink.net (Robert Flory)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 06:15:54 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] BC-1335 crystals
Message-ID: <410-22009461110155446@earthlink.net>

Hi Folks,
Anyone actually operating any of these?  I've got some crystals that will put them on 29.1  29.3  29.6 Mc if anyone needs.
73, Rob K2WI

From w7qho at aol.com  Sat Apr 11 10:36:36 2009
From: w7qho at aol.com (mac)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:36:36 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] BC-1335 crystals
In-Reply-To: <410-22009461110155446@earthlink.net>
References: <410-22009461110155446@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <3B313542-440C-4A38-99EC-4CE106182F43@aol.com>

Yes, couple of these operating out here in SOCAL and I have one in the  
works.  Same xtals used in the BC-659 of which I have three working  
examples.  Will be glad to take those rocks off your hands.  I'm good  
in QRZ.

Dennis D.  W7QHO
Glendale, CA

On Apr 11, 2009, at 3:15 AM, Robert Flory wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> Anyone actually operating any of these?  I've got some crystals that  
> will put them on 29.1  29.3  29.6 Mc if anyone needs.
> 73, Rob K2WI
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From jcoward5452 at aol.com  Sat Apr 11 12:29:19 2009
From: jcoward5452 at aol.com (jcoward5452 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:29:19 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] MT-652/GR question
Message-ID: <8CB88D9CCB70B38-1054-283D@WEBMAIL-MB15.sysops.aol.com>

Greetings All,
  I have a MT-652/GR antenna base that is missing the coax to BNC 
connector cable and the clamp and screws that mount it to the base.Does 
anyone have a document or drawing that shows this in detail so I can 
make/improvise a cable?I sort of have an idea how to do it but it would 
be nice to do it correctly.
  This was used on RT-66,67,68 and 70 and probably many others.It mounts 
the MS-116,117,118 mast sections directly onto the RT unit.
  Thanks,
             Jay KE6PPF

From spike.dennis at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 11 16:53:57 2009
From: spike.dennis at yahoo.com (Spike Dennis)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:53:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Wanted MS & AB antenna mast sections any condition.
Message-ID: <84089.83867.qm@web45706.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


Need to get a quantity of the following. *indicates broken ok.
?
MS-116*, 39.3" stack-able bottom section.
MS-117*, 39.3"?middle section.
MS-118,??39.3"??top section.
?
AB-21*, as MS-116 except 27".
AB-22*, as MS-117 except 27".
AB-24, as MS-118 except 27".
?
M-422 3/8x24 adapter for above.
?
Thanks

KB0SFP
Monitor(all USB: 
3996, 5403.5, 7296, 14342.5, 18157.5


      


From n7rk at cox.net  Sat Apr 11 21:05:22 2009
From: n7rk at cox.net (David Hollander)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:05:22 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] FS: Heathkit, Hallicrafters, Gonset, WRL,
 Yaesu. Military, Regency and Other Stuff
Message-ID: <49E13E52.1090408@cox.net>

I have a bunch of equipment for sale.   Prices do not include shipping. 
   I will ship overseas.

Reasonable offers accepted :-)

Thanks for looking and 73.........Dave N7RK

Heathkit HR-10 Receiver............$100 plus shipping
Clean working receiver with manual photocopy
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/heathhr10.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/heathhr102.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/heathhr103.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/heathhr104.JPG

Heathkit GR-64 Receiver............$40 plus shipping
Working receiver with manual photocopy. Cosmetically challenged as it 
has a crack on the front which can be seen in the photos.
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/heathgr64.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/heathgr642.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/heathgr643.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/heathgr644.JPG

Heath HG-10B VFO #1............$90 plus shipping
Clean unit but untested with manual photocopy
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/hg10b.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/hg10b2.JPG

Heath HG-10B VFO #2............$80 plus shipping
Clean unit but untested with manual photocopy. Dial needs to be restrung
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/hg10b3.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/hg10b32.JPG

Heathkit SB-620 Monitor Scope............$200 plus shipping
Clean working unit with original manual
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/heathsb620.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/heathsb6202.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/heathsb6203.JPG

Hallicrafters HT-40 Transmitter............$100 plus shipping
Working unit with manual photocopy. Puts out 50-60 watts on CW and 40 
watts carrier on AM. Sounded good on AM on my R-388 monitor receiver..
Has a couple of cosmetic issues - meter has a hole in it and their is a 
scratch on the front panel. Both can be seen in the photos.
Had one of these as a novice in 1964 
http://members.cox.net/n7rk//history.html
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/ht40.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/ht402.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/ht403.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/ht404.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/ht405.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/ht406.JPG

Yaesu FT-101 FR-101 External Speaker............$50 plus shipping
Clean working speaker for FT-101 transceiver and and FR-101 receiver
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/yaesu_spkr.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/yaesu_spkr2.JPG

WRL Globe Hi-Bander 6 and 2 Meter Transmitter.........$90 plus shipping
Untested by me but used by a friend on our 2 meter AM net about 3 years 
ago. Includes a manual photocopy.
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/globe_hibander.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/globe_hibander2.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/globe_hibander3.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/globe_hibander4.JPG

WRL Globe 6 and 2 Meter VFO............$90 plus shipping
Untested by me but used by a friend on our 2 meter AM net about 3 years 
ago with the Globe Hi-Bander listed above.
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/globe62vfo.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/globe62vfo2.JPG

Or buy the transmitter and VFO together for $150

Gonset G-66 Mobile Receiver with power supply......$100 plus shipping
Untested as found. Has pitting on the chrome
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/gonsetg66.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/gonsetg662.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/gonsetg663.JPG

Gonset G-66 Receiver Separation Cable............$20 plus shipping
Separates the receiver from the power supply (and Yaesu thought they 
were the first with separation kits!)
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/gonset_cable.JPG

Regency MR-10 VHF Monitor Receiver............$35 plus shipping
Get rid of that solid state scanner and listen to the local police and 
weather on a boatanchor. Fairly clean working unit. I listened to the 
local police and the weather with it.
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/regencymr10.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/regencymr102.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/regencymr103.JPG

LS-11 Military Loudspeaker............$40 plus shipping
Clean, working unit
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/ls11.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/ls112.JPG

Howard 430 Receiver.................$75 plus shipping
This is a 6 tube communications receiver with internal speaker built in 
1939 and 1940. More info can be found on my Howard web page at:
http://members.cox.net/n7rk/howard.htm
This is a project that I got 10 years ago and will never get to. The 
power transformer is OK. Their are some disconnected wires inside.
http://members.cox.net/radiodx3/howard430.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx3/howard4302.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx3/howard4303.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx3/howard4304.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx3/howard4305.JPG

Eico 950B Capacitor Checker....$50 plus shipping
Clean, working unit with photocopy of manual.
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/eico950b.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/eico950b2.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/eico950b3.JPG

Heathkit PS-3 Adjustable High Voltage Power Supply....$125 plus shipping
Clean, working unit with photocopy of partial manual. Good up to 500 volts.
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/heathps3.JPG

Heathkit IG-42 Signal Generator........$50 plus shipping
Clean, working unit with photocopy of manual.
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/heath_ig42.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/heath_ig422.JPG

RCA WR-50B Signal Generator....$40 plus shipping
Clean, working unit with photocopy of manual.
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/rca_wr50b.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/rca_wr50b2.JPG

Heathkit and Drake Original Manuals
I also have the added around 200 original Heathkit manuals to my web 
page plus a few National, Drake and other manuals for sale. List can be 
viewed here: http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/manuals_fs.htm
-- 
***********************************************************
Dave  N7RK          Boatanchors Home Page: http://members.cox.net/n7rk
Phoenix, Arizona         *DXCC Honor Roll*    *WAZ#22 - 75 Meter SSB*

ex-XE2/N7RK, N7RK/ZB2, VK2ERK, ZM0AJN, WB6NRK, WN6IWX

Boatanchor and Antique Radio Collector

From mcenfalz at humboldt1.com  Sat Apr 11 22:13:43 2009
From: mcenfalz at humboldt1.com (Laura and Jim)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:13:43 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] BC-312/342 neon bulb needed
Message-ID: <E9F6048294324C89BD012841DB129BCC@HomePC>

I have a '312-L w/the LM-1 neon bulb missing. Looks to have a bayonette base similar to an automotive brake light. Not critical, but looks like a nice lady w/a tooth missing in front. Is there a modern equivalent? Any spares out there? All I need is the one. Even a dud is OK for now, but I plan to run it w/nearby AM transmitters at Field Day and don't want to give the front end any grief. I'll be at the MRCG West meeting at Camp San Luis Obispo, we can work the deal then.

Cheers!

Jim Falls
KG6FWT
Eureka, CA

From Military1944 at aol.com  Sun Apr 12 04:31:05 2009
From: Military1944 at aol.com (Military1944 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:31:05 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] HRO parts wanted
Message-ID: <cfc.533ba450.371300c9@aol.com>

HRO parts wanted
 
Hi all, 
 
Does anyone have a parted out chassis with the i.f.t.'s remaining?,
or such in their spare/parts boxes................... 
I need the three square i.f.t. coil and can assemblies.
 
Also need about 3 of the on/off swiches with the small forked lever. 
 
cheers, Ben. G4BXD.

From al at ar88.net  Sun Apr 12 13:50:20 2009
From: al at ar88.net (Al Klase)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 13:50:20 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Looking for PRC-77 Schematics
Message-ID: <49E229DC.8030307@ar88.net>

Guys,

I've misplaced my PRC-77 drawings.  In particular I need the schematic 
for the A54 squelch module, but the whole TM would be most helpful.  
There's a .pdf of TM 11-5820-667-35 floating around on the web, but it's 
the C3 (Change 3) version that has the bulk of the schematics deleted.  
If you know where there's a pre-C3 file, please let me know.

&3,
Al

-- 
Al Klase - N3FRQ
Jersey City, NJ
http://www.skywaves.ar88.net/


From robandpj at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 13 05:46:19 2009
From: robandpj at earthlink.net (Robert Flory)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 05:46:19 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Navy TBS crystals
Message-ID: <410-22009411394619890@earthlink.net>

These are an interesting flavor of TBS crystal.  There is an FT-243 style crystal in a socket inside the bakelite holder, at least in the one I've got.  

ebay 360146373429

Been meaning to put a photo on my web site but these hit the 'net first.

Rob

From hankarn at pacbell.net  Mon Apr 13 11:20:58 2009
From: hankarn at pacbell.net (Dan Arney)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:20:58 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] FS  Items
Message-ID: <49E3585A.7090606@pacbell.net>

The following units are to heavy to ship at a reasonable rate so they 
are for pickup only in McKinney or delivered to  Belton, or Dayton.
The price is net to me certified funds, cash, Paypal or bank wire 
transfer to my account PREPAID.

1. Collins 30-S1 Mars version, SN 17XX original manual. This unit looks 
like it just came from the factory and it worked fine when removed from 
service. Will not be DOA. $3000.00.

2. Ambassador solid walnut operating console on casters.
The panel is cut out for Collins S line for a 75S1, 312B4 and a KWM2 or 2A.
Asking $3000.00 OBRO.

3. Rohde & Schwarze EK-07/D2 strapped for 115V AC checked out clean with 
English copy of the manual, 2 wire power plug. Audio plug for speaker, 
Coax connector to BNC.
Pick up saves $100.000 crating and packing charge and 200 plus pounds 
freight charge.

$2000.00 each I have 5 working units and one condition unknown.

4. R-390-A no meters, with RF deck cover sold as-is no power applied due 
to blocking cap for filters not replaced. $450.00 each I have 30 units.

5. R-390-A with original meters details same as above. $525.00. each I 
have 15 units

6. R-390-A with meters all EAC modules, CNC Engraved panel, recapped, 
frame disassembled and gold alodined, 3 wire power cord, all covers 
checked and aligned with 3TF7. $1800.00.

Units are sold on a first come first money.

PICTURES AVAILABLE FOR FOR SERIOUS BUYERS.

Thanks for reading,
Hank
KN6DI


From nick at 3rdtech.com  Mon Apr 13 12:01:05 2009
From: nick at 3rdtech.com (Nick England)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:01:05 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Dayton hamfest - TTY want list
Message-ID: <676FC71986C04CA999B7D1440BADDD24@Heathkit2>

Coming to the Dayton hamfest?
I'll be looking for AN/FCC-3 and AN/FGC-5 TTY multiplex gear. If you've got
any parts, please let me know.
I'll be taking a CV-116/URR dual RTTY converter for sale.
cheers,
Nick K4NYW
www.navy-radio.com 



From smithab11 at comcast.net  Mon Apr 13 13:07:02 2009
From: smithab11 at comcast.net (B. Smith)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:07:02 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] PRC-77 Standard Squelch
Message-ID: <2CB1112357B24C80897C945FFB21952E@BCXHTR8HVC4P>

At one time there was a small circuit board made to convert the PRC-77 to 
standard noise squelch. This board I believe was made in Canada. If anyone 
has this board could I copy it?

73
breck k4che 


From jfor at quik.com  Mon Apr 13 13:16:23 2009
From: jfor at quik.com (J. Forster)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:16:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Navy TBS crystals
In-Reply-To: <410-22009411394619890@earthlink.net>
References: <410-22009411394619890@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1548.12.6.201.131.1239642983.squirrel@pop.quik.com>

Really? I donated some of both the ceramic and bakelite ones from Hugh
Miller to the Massachusetts and to Jerry Proc, but never opened one.  Do
you have a pic of the guts of one?

Best,
-John


> These are an interesting flavor of TBS crystal.  There is an FT-243 style
> crystal in a socket inside the bakelite holder, at least in the one I've
> got.
>
> ebay 360146373429
>
> Been meaning to put a photo on my web site but these hit the 'net first.
>
> Rob
> ______________________________________________________________



From holden7471 at msn.com  Mon Apr 13 13:27:08 2009
From: holden7471 at msn.com (howard holden)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:27:08 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] FS  Items
In-Reply-To: <49E3585A.7090606@pacbell.net> <49E35BF4.6000803@carolina.rr.com>
References: <49E3585A.7090606@pacbell.net> <49E35BF4.6000803@carolina.rr.com>
Message-ID: <BLU125-DS4D25FF9890CF549255B87C47F0@phx.gbl>

Alodine is another term for irridite or chromate conversion. Mil-C-5541 class 1A (for gold).

Anodizing makes no sense on a radio chassis.

Howie WB2AWQ
  >

  "Gold alodined"?  Did you mean anodized??

  That's what we need, more customized old radios.
  One of these days no one will know what they looked like when
  they were built...

  Ron w4ron











From w7qho at aol.com  Mon Apr 13 14:07:18 2009
From: w7qho at aol.com (mac)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 11:07:18 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Navy TBS crystals
In-Reply-To: <410-22009411394619890@earthlink.net>
References: <410-22009411394619890@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <3B3B7558-DB27-4BFC-AEF7-B65B9C723CE7@aol.com>

Have seen the same thing in a few  FT-171-B holders.
Dennis D.  W7QHO
Glendale, CA

On Apr 13, 2009, at 2:46 AM, Robert Flory wrote:

> These are an interesting flavor of TBS crystal.  There is an FT-243  
> style crystal in a socket inside the bakelite holder, at least in  
> the one I've got.
>
> ebay 360146373429
>
> Been meaning to put a photo on my web site but these hit the 'net  
> first.
>
> Rob
> ______________________________________________________________
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From arc5 at ix.netcom.com  Mon Apr 13 14:56:26 2009
From: arc5 at ix.netcom.com (David Stinson)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:56:26 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] RAK/RAL  Lots of Folks Were Seeking This
Message-ID: <7BE72E72F0E34824A23EAB7A4CC61798@boudreaux>

 
RAK/RAL 
 Not mine, etc. 
 
380117307082

From wctaylor at juno.com  Mon Apr 13 14:56:53 2009
From: wctaylor at juno.com (wctaylor at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:56:53 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] WTB BC-348 connector
Message-ID: <20090413.135653.164.0.wctaylor@juno.com>

I recently purchased a BC-348 R with a built in AC supply. The power cord
is soldered to two pins of the 8 pin male connector. I would like to find
a matching female connector so I can  remove the power cord if need be.
The installation of the power supply and cord are very professional
looking. My hat's off to the guy that built the supply and installed it,
looks like a factory job.

Bill Taylor
KD4LXC
____________________________________________________________
Debt collectors calling your house?  Click here to consolidate into one payment.
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTIk3lqVLQbOyA3mkIWjUSCEkUi3cP0AO9UkOia21oBS9FpjK3GOre/

From rafantini at salisbury.edu  Mon Apr 13 16:00:50 2009
From: rafantini at salisbury.edu (Ray Fantini)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:00:50 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] R-390
Message-ID: <49E361B2.9A7D.0031.0@salisbury.edu>

Wow, a gold plated R-390 Who would have thought? not many who have had to work on them I suspect!
Ray Fantini KA3EKH


From TELEGRAPHER at att.net  Mon Apr 13 16:30:02 2009
From: TELEGRAPHER at att.net (TELEGRAPHER at att.net)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:30:02 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] BC-1335
Message-ID: <041320092030.11170.49E3A0CA0004D26500002BA222230647029B0A02D29B9B0EBFADBAB8AFBEADB9BAB4BAAB@att.net>

Dug the one i ahve out of the shed in prep for the trip to MRCG in SLO in a couple weeks.  Sure looks like new on the inside.  Anyway looked at the connector on the outside and thot "wow, that looks familiar".  Digging around i found 3 of them, female 5 pin as parts of other cables.  Anyone intersted?  $75 plus cable connector.

Larry
W0OGH




From densmore at ntl.sympatico.ca  Mon Apr 13 17:07:44 2009
From: densmore at ntl.sympatico.ca (Keith Densmore)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:07:44 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Micro-Tel Pr 700
Message-ID: <F212662AF1AB4294A751E74B52DA6C18@keitha8b21f77c>

Hello,
Has anyone on the list ever used, or know the  whereabouts or have one of 
these for sale or trade?

Thanks, 73,
Keith ve3ts 


From radio at telus.net  Mon Apr 13 20:33:47 2009
From: radio at telus.net (Bruce MacMillan)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:33:47 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Micro-Tel Pr 700
In-Reply-To: <F212662AF1AB4294A751E74B52DA6C18@keitha8b21f77c>
References: <F212662AF1AB4294A751E74B52DA6C18@keitha8b21f77c>
Message-ID: <49E3D9EB.8060703@telus.net>

Toronto Surplus still has one listed for sale. Give them a call.
http://www.torontosurplus.com/

Bruce   ve7mt

Keith Densmore wrote:
> Hello,
> Has anyone on the list ever used, or know the  whereabouts or have one of 
> these for sale or trade?
>
> Thanks, 73,
> Keith ve3ts 
>   


From boeing377 at aol.com  Tue Apr 14 13:15:32 2009
From: boeing377 at aol.com (boeing377 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:15:32 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Micro-Tel PR 700
Message-ID: <47A855FE-8A20-404A-8C9B-48B4EC26616E@aol.com>


eHam.com has a few reviews including mine. I have had one for a year  
and really like it. Heaven forbid if anything blows up. It has some  
exotic custom semiconductors inside. It has a great instant response  
IF driven spectrum scope which makes you realize how much the one on  
the latest Icom HF rigs lag.  The PR 700 does all modes and will even  
demodulate subcarriers. Not sure what it was used for. Bug sweeping in  
embassies has been suggested. Unlike most surveillance rcvrs the PR  
700 actually can be used as a decent but not superb  (this wont  
replace your R 390A) communications receiver. It is sufficiently  
sensitive and selective on HF. Prices for working examples range from  
about $450 to absolutely absurd.

73
Mark
AF6IM


From kb1fqg at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 14 16:36:28 2009
From: kb1fqg at yahoo.com (John Flood)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:36:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] RBM-5  and Eddystone 830/7 looking for a new home
In-Reply-To: <010001c9bd35$91229990$2321334a@COMPAQ>
References: <010001c9bd35$91229990$2321334a@COMPAQ>
Message-ID: <903783.23743.qm@web84108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


Greetings,

Anyone near Boston interested in a working RBM-5 AKA CAY-46077-A? Serial number 7 !!!? I'm sure the low serail number makes it priceless! Comes with power connector and short power cable.? I could meet/deliver to you for $125 and for another $25 you could have a HB power supply that works with it.
Not really interested in shipping it as I expect freight would be?about $50 or more?and propper packing another $15-$25.? Average to good condition.? Some scratches but no serious physical dammage.? 

Eddystone?830/7 was my bedside radio last year or two.? Power fuse blew and I don't have the time to work on it right now.? Might be simple repair who knows!?! Comes with the factory cabinet and an aftermarket service manual.? Previous owner had done quite a bit of restoration work and most of the old caps have been replaced.? Some fading on the dial but otherwise in good shape.??Local sale $125.00 and thats a lot less than I have into it.? The service manual alone went for over $40.00!? Fix it and sell it for 2-3 times your money or fix it and use it, just get it out of my shack and I'll feel less guilty about not doing it myself each time I look at it.? In the UK These ususlly go for 300-500 Pounds Sterling!!! Crating and shipping?this one would probably cost?at least 2/3 of what I'm looking to get so a local sale prefered here?as well?

All proceeds promised to go to another radio toy.

John Flood KB1FQG
978-979-2807

From robandpj at earthlink.net  Tue Apr 14 18:34:13 2009
From: robandpj at earthlink.net (Robert Flory)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:34:13 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] VHF fun
Message-ID: <410-220094214223413156@earthlink.net>

I've got an LM frequency meter coupled lightly into the IF  of an RT-18/ARC-1, with just a wire from LM to vicinity of V-116 socket.

ARC-1 crystalled for 144.250.

LM beating with IF sig so that I can copy W3CCX/B on 144.283 out of Philadelphia, about 35 miles away.  They run 10W.

Running a 17-element yagi 20 feet above ground here.

Rob K2WI

From robandpj at earthlink.net  Tue Apr 14 18:48:32 2009
From: robandpj at earthlink.net (Robert Flory)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:48:32 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] VHF DX
Message-ID: <410-220094214224832328@earthlink.net>

Just heard WA1ZMS beacon from VA with the lashed up ARC-1 and LM!

RF

From vk5abc at optusnet.com.au  Tue Apr 14 22:14:24 2009
From: vk5abc at optusnet.com.au (Lee)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:44:24 +0930
Subject: [Milsurplus] WTB Cubic R-3030 modules
References: <20090413.135653.164.0.wctaylor@juno.com>
Message-ID: <4B648EF9F8324ADA82B43170999109F1@ufp>

Hello All
I need some modules for my Cubic R-3030 receiver as I only have one side filled.
If you know someone with these for sale please email.

73 Lee 


From cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org  Wed Apr 15 07:24:59 2009
From: cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org (Marty Reynolds)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 07:24:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] VHF fun
In-Reply-To: <410-220094214223413156@earthlink.net>
References: <410-220094214223413156@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <17580.24.30.81.88.1239794699.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>


> I've got an LM frequency meter coupled lightly into the IF  of an
> RT-18/ARC-1, with just a wire from LM to vicinity of V-116 socket.
>
> ARC-1 crystalled for 144.250.
>
> LM beating with IF sig so that I can copy W3CCX/B on 144.283 out of
> Philadelphia, about 35 miles away.  They run 10W.
>

Gess that means ARC-1 IF at least 35kcs wide

Say did interfaces arrive alive?

   Marty

From spike.dennis at yahoo.com  Wed Apr 15 09:53:10 2009
From: spike.dennis at yahoo.com (Spike Dennis)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 06:53:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] House cleaning & wanted.
Message-ID: <436254.79981.qm@web45706.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


?
AT-1082/PRC, direction finding antenna for PRC-25, -77 etc. $30

Cubic Astro 150R, HF/SSB Military rack mount version of 150D. Not working $275.00
Cubic PSU-7R, matching rack mount power supply/speaker/phone patch for above. $150.00

GRC-109, transmitter, receiver, & both power supplies, working. $1000.

A-510, HF/AM/CW Aussie/UK SAS/SOG complete set backpack transceiver, in wood transit case, $1000.?

Mk-128, HF/CW UK clandestine SAS complete packset trans/rec in canvas bag, $1000.?

PRC-8, LB/VHF/FM Backpack transceiver, w/battery box & tape antenna, operational, $150.


PRC-9, LB/VHF/FM Backpack transceiver, w/battery box & tape antenna, operational, $150.

PRC-10, LB/VHF/FM Backpack transceiver, w/battery box & tape antenna, operational, $130.

PRC-14, UHF/AM RT unit only operation unknown, $50.

PRC-21, VHF/FM transceiver, w/antenna, handset, pack/straps & manual. $125.00

PRC-25, LB/VHF/FM, backpack transceiver, w/battery box, tape antenna, operational, $295.

PRC-28, LB/VHF/FM, Backpack transceiver, w/battery box & tape antenna, ops unkown, $150.
.
PRC-40, HB/VHF/FM complete packset, w/mic, antenna, canvas bag, $100.

PRC-41, UHF/AM packset, w/antenna, & battery box, operation unknown, $145.

PRC-64, HF/AM/CW transceiver, complete set with all accessories. Operation unknown. $1000.

PRC-439, LB/VHF/FM Italian/Iraqi pack set, Desert Storm bring back, w/battery box, operation unkown, $300.

PRC-602?, LBVHF/FM HT Israeli Sylvania, operation unknown, $125ea, several avail.

CPRC-510, VHF/FM Backpack transceiver, w/battery box & tape antenna, operational, $140.

URC-54, UHF/AM manpack/vehicular complete set, working, $150.

P-139, LB/VHF/FM Eastern European pack set, w/antenna, handsets & other acc, ops unknown. $225.

TR-PP-11, LB/VHF/FM HT Portuguese/French.?$100 operation?

ER-79, LB/VHF/FM complete set French, like PRC-10, $125.00.

SC-120D, HF/AM/SSB/CW backpack transceiver, Southcom, ops unknown. $225.
?
TRC-77, HF/CW transceiver. W/manuals, original wire antenna(crow's foot),?& misc documentation?$185.00

TRC-552, VHF/FM backpack transceiver, Iraqi/Desert Storm?capture(French design), with battery, operation unknown but not dead, $250.00. 

Collins 51J-4 receiver with all three mechanical filters, top & bottom covers, tools still inside, & original cabinet. It's working but may not be to spec. It was my main station receiver & now I just have no more room & need other equipment. $1000 local pickup only.

R-390A(Stewart Warner), works, I used it in the shack until it was replaced by the above. Has top cover. $500 local pickup only.

R-390A(Electronic Assistance Corp), bought it at a hamfest years ago, checked it & put it away, it works. Has top & bottom covers. $650 local pickup only.

R-392(Stewart Warner), again, bought it years ago, checked it out, it worked so put it away. $375.

SSB-100MIL, HF/SSB transmitter, general coverage military version of Eldico SSB-100. w/manual $200.00 local pickup only.

STUFF WANTED:
HF packset wanted, I'm in need of a all around good late model PRC-1099 must be ready for the air. Other portable HF/SSB Commercial, or Military transceivers are also of interest.
?
HF base station needed. Possible considerations might be Harris RF-280, RF-3200, Sunair GSB 900. Must work 1.6-30mc minimum, USB/LSB/AM, have squelch control, & rotary knob tuning. Also Solid state 500-700 watt amp is also on my want list. TW500, TW700, SGC Power Cube, what have you? No CB junk!
?
Also desperately?need the following items for radios I hope to soon use on the air:
?
Southcom/Kachina/Loral Terracom,?SC-120D, SC-130D(URC-87 & URC-187), MP-25, M50A, M50B etc. Complete & parts radios, manuals, & all accessories for the above. Antenna, Battery box, & 3 pin battery box power connector.
?
Codan 8332, 8121 & 6924 Mk2, complete or parts radios, schematic & service manuals.
?
Hallicrafters OPS/TR-9, OPS/SBT-18 & SBT-18-22. Complete & parts radios for the above. All accessories including whip & antenna tuner.
Racal Syncal 30(TRA-931X), need battery box(MA-394 or ?), & carry equipment.

KB0SFP
Monitor(all USB): 
3996, 5403.5, 7296, 14342.5, 18157.5


      


From Military1944 at aol.com  Wed Apr 15 11:19:46 2009
From: Military1944 at aol.com (Military1944 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:19:46 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] FT-241 "Channel" Crystals
Message-ID: <cb7.4de2655f.37175512@aol.com>

FT-241 "Channel" Crystals 
 
Does anyone have either of the following sets:
 
Channel 32, 33, 34 and 35
 
or 
 
Channel 309, 310, 311 and 312
 
in the FT241 types used in the BC-604/684 sets.
 
cheers, Ben. 

From mikea at mikea.ath.cx  Wed Apr 15 11:39:46 2009
From: mikea at mikea.ath.cx (mikea)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:39:46 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] FT-241 "Channel" Crystals
In-Reply-To: <cb7.4de2655f.37175512@aol.com>
References: <cb7.4de2655f.37175512@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20090415153946.GA56604@mikea.ath.cx>

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:19:46AM -0400, Military1944 at aol.com wrote:
> FT-241 "Channel" Crystals 
>  
> Does anyone have either of the following sets:
>  
> Channel 32, 33, 34 and 35
>  
> or 
>  
> Channel 309, 310, 311 and 312
>  
> in the FT241 types used in the BC-604/684 sets.

I wouldn't be surprised if I do. I'll try to look over the weekend. It 
may take a while, as lots of stuff will have to be moved and I'm one-
armed until I recover from this never-sufficiently-to-be-damned rotator
cuff surgery. 

-- 
Mike Andrews, W5EGO
mikea at mikea.ath.cx
Tired old sysadmin 

From smithab11 at comcast.net  Wed Apr 15 12:31:36 2009
From: smithab11 at comcast.net (B. Smith)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:31:36 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Collins 32RS-1 LSB
Message-ID: <7C930FE35BF745FB886CBB5391B230FB@BCXHTR8HVC4P>

Is anyone using the 32RS-1 on LSB by using lower injection?

73 breck k4che

From robert.h.goff at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 12:41:56 2009
From: robert.h.goff at gmail.com (Robert Goff)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:41:56 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Wanted: R-1004A p/o GRC-109
Message-ID: <ead290cb0904150941j12338ee1ib94d7c50f9e327e7@mail.gmail.com>

I'm looking for an R-1004A receiver (the one with the clasp
fasteners). I can pick up in OR or CA, possibly UT or NV, or will
gladly pay shipping from anywhere else.

Anybody have one of these surplus to their needs?

Thanks
Robert
W7MKA

From TELEGRAPHER at att.net  Wed Apr 15 17:13:16 2009
From: TELEGRAPHER at att.net (TELEGRAPHER at att.net)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:13:16 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] Manuals FS
Message-ID: <041520092113.7207.49E64DEC0004D87400001C2722243651029B0A02D29B9B0EBFADBAB8AFBEADB9BAB4BAAB@att.net>

Preliminary Copy to be replaced by final copy, Model LM-10 Crystal Calibrated Frequency Indicating Equipment (Aircraft Use) by Bendix Radio. Original Contract date is Dec. 1939.  Very good shape for $15

CO-NAVAER 08-5S-78, Manual of Test Equipment for Airborne Electrical Electronic Equipment.  Replaces NAVAER 08-5S-78, 1944.
Nice copy for $18

Preliminary Instructions for Radio Set SCR-578-A by Bendix Aviation, LTD.  1942 contract date in like new condition for $12

Handbook of Operating and Maintenance Instructions for Model LM-15 Crystal Calibrated Frequency Indicating Equipment, 1 Nov. 1943.  Original in very good condition for $18

NAVAER 08-5Q-35, Handbook of Maintenance Instructions for Navy Model LM-10 etc.  4 Aug 1943.  Front cover a bit tattered but complete.  This is a regular 8 1/2 X 11 manual whereas the first one i listed was in a smaller format.  $15

Basic Radio prepared by Naval Air Technical Training Center, Ward Island, Corpus Christi, TX.  Everything except graphs and drawings are hand typed.  Nice manual.  $12

Postage is extra from 85233.

Larry
W0OGH


From glennmaillist at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 16 01:59:02 2009
From: glennmaillist at bellsouth.net (Glenn Little WB4UIV)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:59:02 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] A-1 Receiver
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20090416010707.042444d0@mail.bellsouth.net>

I have a U.S.N. Bureau of Ships Type US/A1 receiver.
This was manufactured by Samson United Corp.
This appears to be an infra red light receiver.
It has a 2.25" dia red filter in the front and an 0.75" eyepiece in the rear.
The receiver is 8" long and painted black with a fine wrinkle finish.
It has a battery box that holds two cells.
These appear to be slightly smaller than a AA cell.
There are charging instructions in the lid of the leather carrying case.
These state to basically charge the receiver for 2-3 minutes and age 
in the dark for 4 hours.
The receiver is then ready for use.
Does anyone recognize this receiver?
What batteries and charger would it take?
What was it used for?

This URL possibly talks about this receiver: 
http://www.optics.rochester.edu/~stroud/BookHTML/ChapII_pdf/II_14.pdf

This receiver may have been known as a metascope.



Thanks
73
Glenn
WB4UIV





From Military1944 at aol.com  Thu Apr 16 05:35:33 2009
From: Military1944 at aol.com (Military1944 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 05:35:33 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] > FT-241 "Channel" Crystals
Message-ID: <d46.3edcb7c9.371855e5@aol.com>

 
>  FT-241 "Channel" Crystals 
>  
> Does anyone have either of  the following sets:
>  
> Channel 32, 33, 34 and  35
>  


------------------------------
 
After a good nights sleep etc I have come to the conclusion I really only  
need a channel 36 xtal. 
 
This tx, called a Sphinx, was made in the 60's/70's by a small back street  
chap in the UK. He used the surplus xtals of the time for the ssb 
generator,  this one is centred on 434Khz. A previous owner thought it a good idea to 
remove  the carrier xtal and replace it with a free running oscillator ! (I 
have no  idea). 
 
Anyway, seems channel 36 is 437kHz so when trimmed down a bit should  
provide the carrier insertion for the balanced modulator at around 436.xx.
 
So, if anyone has a CH36, do let me know. 
 
cheers, Ben. 


From kb1fqg at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 16 12:20:47 2009
From: kb1fqg at yahoo.com (John Flood)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:20:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Attn Al Klase
In-Reply-To: <cb7.4de2655f.37175512@aol.com>
References: <cb7.4de2655f.37175512@aol.com>
Message-ID: <977989.87007.qm@web84104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


Hello Al,

I have sent you a few replies directly but have not heard from you.? Just hoping I'm not ending up in a spam filter.? 

John Flood KB1FQG
978-979-2807

From scr274 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 13:30:33 2009
From: scr274 at gmail.com (Ken Kinderman)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:30:33 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Signal Corps History - The Green Books
Message-ID: <dd9154de0904161030k267c12f5xb599574d5857334e@mail.gmail.com>

I have 2 of the 3 hard cover volumes of the US Army History of World War 2
Technical Services, The Signal Corps (the so-called ?green books?). I would
be willing to give them away to the first taker, but first I am looking to
trade for one, possibly two, ART-13 calibration booklets, the ones that tuck
into the slot (with the sleeving-covered chain, if possible)?

These books are Volumes 2 and 3 in the series, covering December 7, 1941 to
July 1943 (?The Test?) and mid 1943 to 1945 (?The Outcome?). I traded away
the first volume (?The Emergency?, covering pre- December 7) for a
not-too-bad ARC-5 transmitter rack.

They are OUT OF PRINT and are no longer available from the Government
Printing Office. In fairness, I should say that all 3 volumes are now
available as CD?s from the GPO, but nothing beats thumbing through the pages
and the photos of the hard cover volumes:

- A guy up on a pole in a snowstorm in the Ardennes repairing a line

- General Sun Li-Jen (whoever he was) using an SCR-300 on the Stilwell Road
in Burma

- A guy in a hut (no rank visible) checking a BC-779 with a BC-221 at Gen.
Stilwell?s HQ in Burma

- A bunch of guys with grins, hunched on the floor building waterproof
wooden boxes at the ?Processing and Packing School? in New Caledonia. (Keep
?em busy!)

- Training in the use and splicing of that new communications miracle,
Spiral 4

- Some guys in the field earnestly tweaking the knobs on a BC-191 with no
receiver in sight, no power cord, no antenna connected, no meter readings,
and the power switch turned off.

- A discussion by one Colonel Marks: ?It is reported that the SCR-522 is
installed in some manner in tanks. By whom, in what tanks, and how many is
not known?. A Col. Williams continues: ?? these tanks were in communication
with fighter bombers immediately overhead as the advance (on St. Lo in
Normandy) took place? The speed and magnitude of the breakthrough at St. Lo
and the successful exploitation were due greatly to this close air-ground
communications.? This was in direct contravention to the ?proper channels of
command? that required requests for air support to go back upstream to HQ,
then on to the ATC center, then back down to the AAF flyers.

- Much discussion of all the equipment groups we know and love;
channelizing, crystal vs. ?tunable?, overly complex radio and wire networks.

And on and on? great reading, and a great opportunity to dispel many myths.

Anyway, the books are here and ready to go out... but first, does anybody
have one or two ART-13 calibration booklets?

73,
Ken, W2EWL

From scr274 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 13:33:34 2009
From: scr274 at gmail.com (Ken Kinderman)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:33:34 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Signal Corps History - The Green Books
Message-ID: <dd9154de0904161033j63a5584h4f2d2742103f71d2@mail.gmail.com>

P.S. Each of the books is about 600 pages long, with a good index

From kk5f at earthlink.net  Thu Apr 16 17:27:00 2009
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:27:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Signal Corps History - The Green Books - ART-13
 cal books
Message-ID: <10285590.1239917220837.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Ken wrote:

> ...I am looking to trade for one, possibly two, ART-13 calibration
> booklets, the ones that tuck into the slot (with the sleeving-covered
> chain, if possible)?

There are *at least* four different "ART-13" calibration books, for:

(1)  USN ATC, ATC-1 with 8Q-1 CFI (calibration) unit,
(2)  USN ATC, ATC-1 with 8Q-2 CFI (calibration) unit,
(3)  USN T-47/ART-13 with 8Q-2 CFI (calibration) unit,
(4)  USAAF T-47A/ART-13.

The first three books are for USN units, which seldom (if ever) have
a vernier scale above VFO dial B.

The last book is for the USAF/USAAF T-47A/ART-13, which should have
the 8Q-2 CFI unit, and a vernier scale above VFO dial B to allow
much greater precision in VFO dial setting.  This allows the T-47A
to be set in 1 kHz increments throughout its full tuning range.  Its
cal book provides data at that interval.  The USN units have setting
data mainly in 5, then 10 kHz increments.  Their calibration books
are much thinner than the book for the T-47A.

I've seen the rubber-covered attachment chain only on USAF T-47A
units.  The USN units that I've seen didn't even have the attachment
hole for the transmitter end of the chain drilled into the side
of the holder slot.

A few ATC books appear to have been serialized to a particular
transmitter.  That was pointless since the cal data are the same
for all transmitters with the same type CFI unit and setting interval,
following adjustment to the local CFI cal point.  (Even the data in
the book for the R-807 Soviet copy are pretty *close* to the U.S.
original.)

About ten years ago, Fair Radio had original (used) books for both
the T-47 and the T-47A.  I was lucky enough to purchase one of each 
($30 each, IIRC) before the supply was quickly exhausted.  That was the
only time in 40 years of collecting that I've ever seen a supply
of such books on sale.  I got my ATC book on ebay.

These books are a lot harder to find than are the transmitters.

Mike / KK5F

From kargo_cult at msn.com  Fri Apr 17 14:12:06 2009
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:12:06 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCR-284 Questons
References: <mailman.55.1239897609.15460.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV77B4F1DB0E9684F014F63E47B0@phx.gbl>

1- I found an antenna bag for the SCR-284.
I do not have the GN-45 gen. I am wondering if the seat
& legs will play with the GN-35? from the SCR-288 set?
This seat & legs i found are in very good condition.
Unfortunately, no antenna insulator in the kit.

2-This radio is marked stencil painted 
"MFP 10-44". Does this mean it had a major repair at that
time, since the MFP was done in manufacturing? I have
never seen another with MFP lettering on outside, and in
lettering so large, over one inch tall. Marked both front and
back. Also hand painted letters "C2"  (NOT G2). Does this
mean anything to anyone. 
This seems to be a veteran that was actually used, somewhere,
in that war. 

I also had a look inside another 654 and found that the chassis was
stencil painted W7PXB inside in tall letters. Wonder if he feared 
theft?? Inside radio was also a letter from Civil Air Patrol.
Tnx -  Hue Miller 


From WA5CAB at cs.com  Fri Apr 17 10:22:20 2009
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:22:20 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCR-284 Questons
Message-ID: <d50.48a5d566.3719ea9c@cs.com>

In a message dated 4/17/2009 1:13:41 AM Central Daylight Time, 
kargo_cult at msn.com writes: 
> 1- I found an antenna bag for the SCR-284.
> I do not have the GN-45 gen. I am wondering if the seat
> &legs will play with the GN-35? from the SCR-288 set?
> This seat &legs i found are in very good condition.
> Unfortunately, no antenna insulator in the kit.

The LG-2, 2-A & 2-B and LG-3 & -3-B fit every Signal Corps hand crank 
generator that I know of from the GN-35 through the G-8A/GRC except for the GN-54 
(which used three LG-3's).

I have several IN-86-A

> 
> 2-This radio is marked stencil painted 
> "MFP 10-44". Does this mean it had a major repair at that
> time, since the MFP was done in manufacturing? I have
> never seen another with MFP lettering on outside, and in
> lettering so large, over one inch tall. Marked both front and
> back. Also hand painted letters "C2"  (NOT G2). Does this
> mean anything to anyone. 
> This seems to be a veteran that was actually used, somewhere,
> in that war. 
> 

My understanding is that when the MFP treatment first came into use the 
varnish was in short supply and was applied to stuff going to the Pacific or 
the CBI.  It was only late in the War that it began to be routinely applied on 
the assembly line.  I've seen examples of MFP treatment done as late as 
1953 on unissued components made as early as 1943.

Robert Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480

From jcoward5452 at aol.com  Fri Apr 17 14:55:48 2009
From: jcoward5452 at aol.com (jcoward5452 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:55:48 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] RT-70A and AM-65 question
Message-ID: <8CB8DA541A63BF7-130C-AC5@mblk-m27.sysops.aol.com>

Greetings groups,
  I have just purchased the subject gear.It came with a short power 
cord,a dog bone and an HS-33 handset and a maintenance manual for the 
RT-70.I happened to have a manual for AN/GRC-3 thru 8 which has some 
info on the AM-65.
  It seems I need a control box to select "set 2" the RT-70.I would like 
to operate as a stand alone set.As it is I have the internal switch set 
to "Field" but I hear nothing from the RT.The AM-65 seems to be working 
as I get sidetone.
 I'll be checking all the tubes next.
  Do I need to jumper some pins on the REC-TR CONT. jack to light this 
one up?

Thanks,
            Jay KE6PPF

From antqradio at sbcglobal.net  Fri Apr 17 17:42:07 2009
From: antqradio at sbcglobal.net (Jim Whartenby)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:42:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Freefest in Bartlett, TN
Message-ID: <93608.73906.qm@web82703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


Anyone from the list going to this Hamfest?
It is a 200 mile trek from Hot Springs and I would hate to find out it is canceled due to rain!
The things one does for radio,
Jim

From kk5f at earthlink.net  Fri Apr 17 18:12:41 2009
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:12:41 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Freefest in Bartlett, TN
Message-ID: <26648580.1240006361870.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Jim asked:

>Anyone from the list going to this Hamfest?
>It is a 200 mile trek from Hot Springs and I would hate to find out it
>is canceled due to rain!

I was considering it.  It is about 200 miles from where I live in Alabama.
The weather forecast is 90% chance of rain in Memphis tomorrow during the day.

Memphis is one of my least favorite places, but the old and apparently defunct
Dixiefest did finally get to be worth attending.  Then it disappeared.

Instead, I think I'll attend the official Alabama Chicken and Egg Festival in
Moulton.  Rain isn't likely until late, and it's much closer.  I'll report
any boatanchor sightings.  :-)

Mike / KK5F

From n2lxm at juno.com  Fri Apr 17 19:37:53 2009
From: n2lxm at juno.com (n2lxm at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:37:53 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] O.M.A.R.C. Tailgate Hamfest
Message-ID: <20090417.193824.3524.1.n2lxm@juno.com>

Greetings All,

        Well I guess Spring is REALLY HERE!!!. with all the talk of
Hamfests going on I am going to throw Ours into the Mix. The Ocean
Monmouth Amateur Radio Club Spring Tailgate Hamfest is On for Saturday
April, 18 2009. Location it the Project Diana Site of the former Camp
Evans Complex in Wall Township New Jersey. Directions and information can
be found at  " www.omarc.org  " and  "www.infoage.org ". The weather
outlook is for Bright and Sunny Skies, with temps in the lower Seventies.
Light refreshments and plenty of free parking. So if any of you are in
the area, give us a call on the N2MO/R 145.110, -600, 127.3 pl. Hope to
see you.


                                Jeff N2LXM
                   O.M.A.R.C. Hamfest Chairman
                  AMATEUR RADIO OPERATOR
                                AMERICAN
                                  PATRIOT
                  Proud Father of two US MARINES
____________________________________________________________
Save on Pest Control. Click here.
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTGQSsZErtBqtNPIqPm3ZSxqrdAHU4icessJIzQYiYJIcVhCkMaBKg/

From olegerityincj at austin.rr.com  Sat Apr 18 00:11:07 2009
From: olegerityincj at austin.rr.com (John Hutchins)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 23:11:07 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] I-177 Nolan Lee's Xcell spread sheet.
Message-ID: <49E952DB.8040900@austin.rr.com>

Group -

I was testing tubes with the I-177-B tube tester using Nolan Lee's Xcell 
spread sheet data.
The 1625 setup <is>  or <is not> correct had to pull out the paper manuals.

The TM have a conflicting settings: TB-11-2627 <> TB 11-2627-C2 
This is confusing.  Anyone else have the same dilemma ?

While on the subject - Is anyone maintaining Nolan Lee's Xcell Spread sheet?

Later
Hutch

From kargo_cult at msn.com  Sat Apr 18 14:18:36 2009
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 11:18:36 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] More SCR-284
References: <mailman.55.1239897609.15460.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV1040D1EAB5683DDED35F3DE4780@phx.gbl>

As i sat looking at the BC-654, i was thinking that this
was really the golden era of man-size radios. No little
toy ricebox with tiny knobs and more buttons than knobs.
Lots of real estate. The BC-654 is pretty much the breadth
and height of the upper human torso.
The SN on this one is 35774 so it's late production. I think
i quoted total production at something like 52k. I sure wonder
where it went before it was MFP'd in '44. Or after.
BTW, this one smells REAL musty. Much more musty or
whatever than several hundred pounds of old radio mags
and books i recovered.
Something else that occurred to me. I don't ever recall seeing
a surplus conversion or simply war surplus use article on some
sets such as BC-1000, BC-654, or BC-1306. Does this mean
these were too highly priced in the surplus era, still having value
to foreign militaries? Looking over the BC-654, for example, seems
like it would have made a decent Novice radio - with some mod for
xtal control transmit. Maybe the Novices couldn't lift it? What about
the BC-1306? I have seen a couple photos of them in early 1960s
missionary stations in remote locations where the hand crank system
was a real asset. I also owned a TRC-2 once that i'm fairly sure did
a stint on a small boat. Maybe these relatively big rigs BC-654 and
BC-1306 didn't put out enuff power for the hams? But would have not
been that hard to plate modulate them?

BTW, "Flying Heritage Collection" at Paine Field in Everett WA
( former NAS ), Paul Allen's collection, has a front section of a
Lancaster with the R-1155 and T-1154 installed (but not connectored.)
Also some other rarities, ME-163 rocket plane, V-1, and the piloted
version of the V-1. Most of the collection is maintained in flyable
condition and flown yearly, except for about 6 craft, including the
ME-163. Probably couldn't find a volunteer test pilot.  The engines
all have drip pans underneath lined with paper towel. I did not see
any egregious oil leak on any of the paper towels. You have to
really applaud Mr. Paul Allen's benificence here. This cannot be
making anywhere near the money it costs. If you're in Seattle this
is worthwhile visiting. You can get quite close to the hardware.
I will be visiting the Museum of Flight in So. Seattle in July. This
museum also has a "restoration center" at the same previously
mentioned Paine Field, but i didn't learn that until after our visit to
FHC.
BTW, there's a firm located up at Paine Field that builds Messer
ME-262 reproductions. I noticed they bear the Balkan Cross but not
the swastika on the tail, sensibly enough. We saw some other
interesting craft undergoing refurbishment around the area, something
that looked like a C-130 but no markings anywhere and no engines,
also a DC-6 with some marking like "Evert Air Transport".

Oldest prop plane i ever flown on was a C-46 from New York
to California on Flying Tiger airline. At one point they landed for
refueling at a little field with a hut and a couple fuel pumps. No
tourist shops or bookstores. In fact, no nothing. But this was in my
short pants days and i spent the trip airsick, mostly deadly boredom,
i really think. -Hue Miller


From WA5CAB at cs.com  Sat Apr 18 02:36:47 2009
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 02:36:47 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] More SCR-284
Message-ID: <be2.49a15eb9.371aceff@cs.com>

I'm not sure why the SCR-284 (BC-654 and accessories) doesn't much show up 
in surplus until later.  But the SCR-694 (BC-1306) and SCR-300 (BC-1000) 
remained in front line service well into Korea or even later with the BC-1306.  
Same with the SCR-619 (BC-1335).  I have M38 and M38A1 combination radio 
installation instructions dated January 1956 that still list the SCR-619 and 
SCR-694.

In a message dated 4/18/2009 1:20:02 AM Central Daylight Time, 
kargo_cult at msn.com writes: 
> Something else that occurred to me. I don't ever recall seeing
> a surplus conversion or simply war surplus use article on some
> sets such as BC-1000, BC-654, or BC-1306. Does this mean
> these were too highly priced in the surplus era, still having value
> to foreign militaries? Looking over the BC-654, for example, seems
> like it would have made a decent Novice radio - with some mod for
> xtal control transmit. Maybe the Novices couldn't lift it? What about
> the BC-1306? I have seen a couple photos of them in early 1960s
> missionary stations in remote locations where the hand crank system
> was a real asset. I also owned a TRC-2 once that i'm fairly sure did
> a stint on a small boat. Maybe these relatively big rigs BC-654 and
> BC-1306 didn't put out enuff power for the hams? But would have not
> been that hard to plate modulate them?
> 

Robert & Susan Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480

From kargo_cult at msn.com  Sat Apr 18 15:01:25 2009
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:01:25 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] The Army-Navy Game
References: <mailman.57.1239984008.19189.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV123986051702FDCAAAF0CAE4780@phx.gbl>

Just read D. Starks' older on on some site like "Army Radio
Sales". Probably some of this info is now understood to be
outdated altho still posted online. As for Navy equipment
being more advanced, i had to think of the SCR-300
replacing the TBY and other such sets, and the BC-348
replacing the RAX. Also the MBM was i'm pretty sure no
raider radio: it comes packaged in civy-looking suitcases.
More likely it was the Navy's idea of the PRC-1 type thing,
possibly intended for SACO use, China, for coast watchers
and weather stations. But apparently this task was given
to the humble TBX, which with the Navy modification could
work up to 7 Mc/s or so, and which handled the task just 
fine. The MBM was certainly more expensive than the TBX;
maybe more expensive than the PRC-1; however it seems 
to me the PRC-1 was a better design and execution than 
the MBM - i partly chalk that up to Jefferson Travis's typical
odd ( i think ) mechanical engineering. 
Whatever flaws the SCR-284 had, it was certainly more 
rugged than the TBX, and it served thru to the end of the
war in the Pacific. There's a real nice photo of some GI's 
wearing rain ponchos listening to the announcement of the
end of the war over a BC-654 on Okinawa. 
I recall a couple decades back Tony Grogan and i trying to 
speculate about the reason for the MBM's wide and tall
but only a few inches deep design. He guessed it had to
fit on a makeshift table of some kind. Neither of us guessed
it was to fit inside a civilian suitcase. 

From kargo_cult at msn.com  Sat Apr 18 17:43:17 2009
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 14:43:17 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCR-694 Training Film
References: <mailman.55.1239897609.15460.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV881B3227BCCC88AA8891EE4780@phx.gbl>

Did we already mention the You Tube, SCR-694
training film? Now, this is cool!  -Hue Miller

http://www.armyradio.com/arsc/customer/pages.php?pageurl=/publish/SCR-69
4_Film/SCR-694_Film.htm


From spike.dennis at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 18 07:11:32 2009
From: spike.dennis at yahoo.com (Spike Dennis)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 04:11:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] More SCR-284
In-Reply-To: <be2.49a15eb9.371aceff@cs.com>
References: <be2.49a15eb9.371aceff@cs.com>
Message-ID: <128998.29174.qm@web45716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>



The BC-654 as with the BC-1306 did not survive production until the end of the war. Indeed late war training manuals exist that do not include the BC-654?or ?BC-1306, but do include the GRC-9 & Pogo-Stick(go figure). The GRC-9 was in production before the end of WW-2 & examples have been found. However, it is very doubtful that any saw service. It did see extensive & well documented service during Korea. It stands to reason that equipment was not in production at war's end is not nearly as prevalent as those that were(hence the term "surplus"). Even at that there were some that made the surplus market at least in sufficient quantities that a few articles were written about them. The BC-1335 is a very late war addition & at least some of it's ancillary equipment did not exist until after the war.

As Bob eluded to, many of these were still viable tactical radios well into the mid 60's & even later. This too adds to the rarity of some equipment &/or it's extreme expense on the surplus market at that time(just as now). BC-611, BC1306 among other saw extensive service in Southeast Asia with the French, Vietnamese, Tia & others. Then too, all the NATO counties used this same WW-2 vintage equipment at an extreme late date, or at least still had it in inventory.

A simple look through vintage surplas catalogs will show that those sets that were still viable tactical radios did not flood the market as did others. And there just simply was not nearly as many of them made. They were used! The CIA, among others, passed this equipment out all over the world well into the late 60's. Some conversion information came through MARS & CD programs(BC-1306, GRC-9, BC-1000-6mtrs)?those members of which enjoyed a little better access these goodies.

KB0SFP
Monitor(all USB): 
3996, 5403.5, 7296, 14342.5, 18157.5



----- Original Message ----
> From: "WA5CAB at cs.com" <WA5CAB at cs.com>
> To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 1:36:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] More SCR-284
> 
> I'm not sure why the SCR-284 (BC-654 and accessories) doesn't much show up 
> in surplus until later.? But the SCR-694 (BC-1306) and SCR-300 (BC-1000) 
> remained in front line service well into Korea or even later with the BC-1306.? 
> Same with the SCR-619 (BC-1335).? I have M38 and M38A1 combination radio 
> installation instructions dated January 1956 that still list the SCR-619 and 
> SCR-694.
> 
> In a message dated 4/18/2009 1:20:02 AM Central Daylight Time, 
> kargo_cult at msn.com writes: 
> > Something else that occurred to me. I don't ever recall seeing
> > a surplus conversion or simply war surplus use article on some
> > sets such as BC-1000, BC-654, or BC-1306. Does this mean
> > these were too highly priced in the surplus era, still having value
> > to foreign militaries? Looking over the BC-654, for example, seems
> > like it would have made a decent Novice radio - with some mod for
> > xtal control transmit. Maybe the Novices couldn't lift it? What about
> > the BC-1306? I have seen a couple photos of them in early 1960s
> > missionary stations in remote locations where the hand crank system
> > was a real asset. I also owned a TRC-2 once that i'm fairly sure did
> > a stint on a small boat. Maybe these relatively big rigs BC-654 and
> > BC-1306 didn't put out enuff power for the hams? But would have not
> > been that hard to plate modulate them?
> > 
> 
> Robert & Susan Downs - Houston
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From spike.dennis at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 18 07:31:18 2009
From: spike.dennis at yahoo.com (Spike Dennis)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 04:31:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] The Army-Navy Game
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV123986051702FDCAAAF0CAE4780@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.57.1239984008.19189.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<BAY109-DAV123986051702FDCAAAF0CAE4780@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <620186.51719.qm@web45705.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


Hue, you touched on?a possible case for the MBM. The US NAVY sponsored by far the most extensive clandestine activities in the China/Burma theater. They greatly surpassed all the other intelligence agency. There is even some suggestion that this vast network was enhanced by some profiteering. The Navy Commander's excuse was the element of humanity he needed?to deal with. One thing is certain, there was a considerable amount of rivaly between all the angencies active in China. The MBM might well have been the Navy's PRC-1!

KB0SFP
Monitor(all USB): 
3996, 5403.5, 7296, 14342.5, 18157.5



----- Original Message ----
> From: Hue Miller <kargo_cult at msn.com>
> To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 2:01:25 PM
> Subject: [Milsurplus] The Army-Navy Game
> 
> Just read D. Starks' older on on some site like "Army Radio
> Sales". Probably some of this info is now understood to be
> outdated altho still posted online. As for Navy equipment
> being more advanced, i had to think of the SCR-300
> replacing the TBY and other such sets, and the BC-348
> replacing the RAX. Also the MBM was i'm pretty sure no
> raider radio: it comes packaged in civy-looking suitcases.
> More likely it was the Navy's idea of the PRC-1 type thing,
> possibly intended for SACO use, China, for coast watchers
> and weather stations. But apparently this task was given
> to the humble TBX, which with the Navy modification could
> work up to 7 Mc/s or so, and which handled the task just 
> fine. The MBM was certainly more expensive than the TBX;
> maybe more expensive than the PRC-1; however it seems 
> to me the PRC-1 was a better design and execution than 
> the MBM - i partly chalk that up to Jefferson Travis's typical
> odd ( i think ) mechanical engineering. 
> Whatever flaws the SCR-284 had, it was certainly more 
> rugged than the TBX, and it served thru to the end of the
> war in the Pacific. There's a real nice photo of some GI's 
> wearing rain ponchos listening to the announcement of the
> end of the war over a BC-654 on Okinawa. 
> I recall a couple decades back Tony Grogan and i trying to 
> speculate about the reason for the MBM's wide and tall
> but only a few inches deep design. He guessed it had to
> fit on a makeshift table of some kind. Neither of us guessed
> it was to fit inside a civilian suitcase. 
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From carseneau at birkeys.com  Sat Apr 18 08:59:42 2009
From: carseneau at birkeys.com (Curt Arseneau)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 07:59:42 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] Mustang Radio Equipment
Message-ID: <35F4FFB47C24443C95C967FBCDF9E075@carseneauPC>

Hello All,
Looking for information about some of the equipment found ( and missing from) our P-51H Mustang. Would like to see diagram of the AN/ARA-8 homing adaptor showing the components involved. Also, we have empty MT-28/ARN-5 and FT-293-A mounts. I have found no reference of the ARN-5 equipment being used in anything but cargo planes so wonder about it's install in a Mustang. Have yet to identify what would have been mounted in the FT-293-A? As additional information, this aircraft was used as an airframe maintenance trainer at Chanute Air Force Base so anything is possible.
Comments appreciated,
Curt

From mccormick_mack at hotmail.com  Sat Apr 18 09:07:28 2009
From: mccormick_mack at hotmail.com (Mack)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 09:07:28 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] BC-348 Questions
Message-ID: <BAY124-DS64E2BD69957FD39CB1A3BE8780@phx.gbl>

I'm restoring a BC-348-O. Can anyone tell me how much current the B+ circuit should draw? I'm drawing 70 ma at 250V. Is that a bit high? Might there be another leaky capacitor that I haven't found? It's also  pretty deaf but I'll work on that after I'm sure it's not drawing too much current. 

So far I've thoroughly cleaned the rig and replaced most of the non-mica caps. I've also completely rebuilt the AC power supply. After I'm sure it's working electrically then I'll tackle all the cosmetics with completely stripping the paint and refinishing. 

The BC-348 was the first receiver I owned as a Novice 41 years ago and I'm trying to rebuilt a bit of that nostalgia. Thank you in advance for any advice. 

73,

Mack
WB4MAK

From olegerityincj at austin.rr.com  Sat Apr 18 10:21:39 2009
From: olegerityincj at austin.rr.com (John Hutchins)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 09:21:39 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] BC-348 Questions
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-DS64E2BD69957FD39CB1A3BE8780@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY124-DS64E2BD69957FD39CB1A3BE8780@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <49E9E1F3.5010809@austin.rr.com>

Mack -
Short answers 1.  To much voltage.  2. The draw should be about 50-55ma 
@200V.
The voltage should be about 220V - 17V = 203V to ground from the B+ 
rail.  The negative lead off the power supply goes, went, to a coil then 
to ground developing a ~ -17v bias for the audio tube VT-48, type 41 
tube.   There should be part, 101 audio pack, consisting of 101-A is the 
coil and 101-B is the audio transformer. 
Hutch


Mack wrote:
> I'm restoring a BC-348-O. Can anyone tell me how much current the B+ circuit should draw? I'm drawing 70 ma at 250V. Is that a bit high? Might there be another leaky capacitor that I haven't found? It's also  pretty deaf but I'll work on that after I'm sure it's not drawing too much current. 
>
> So far I've thoroughly cleaned the rig and replaced most of the non-mica caps. I've also completely rebuilt the AC power supply. After I'm sure it's working electrically then I'll tackle all the cosmetics with completely stripping the paint and refinishing. 
>
> The BC-348 was the first receiver I owned as a Novice 41 years ago and I'm trying to rebuilt a bit of that nostalgia. Thank you in advance for any advice. 
>
> 73,
>
> Mack
> WB4MAK
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From WA5CAB at cs.com  Sat Apr 18 10:22:01 2009
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:22:01 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] Mustang Radio Equipment
Message-ID: <cd2.4f93f154.371b3c09@cs.com>

Curt,

MT-28/ARN-5 is also the mount for the AM-26/AIC.  But that makes if 
anything less sense than the AN/ARN-5.  I have the dim recollection that there was 
another NAV set whose "box" looks like the R-89/ARN-5 but can't recall what 
it was.  Might be a false memory, too.  

FT-293-A is the mount for the BC-733 Localizer Receiver (p/o RC-103).

I don't have anything in my database on the AN/ARA-8 other than the 
unsubstantiated mention of an MD-34 Modulator (?), a C-150/ARA-8 (no name) and 
C-301 Automatic Volume Control.  All of which could be in error.  The or a 
manual (which I do not have is AN 08-30ARA8-3.  The -3 usually means the 
Maintenance Handbook.  If that's correct, then there was probably a -2 Operations 
Manual.

In a message dated 4/18/2009 8:03:06 AM Central Daylight Time, 
carseneau at birkeys.com writes: 
> Hello All,
> Looking for information about some of the equipment found ( and missing 
> from) our P-51H Mustang. Would like to see diagram of the AN/ARA-8 homing 
> adaptor showing the components involved. Also, we have empty MT-28/ARN-5 and 
> FT-293-A mounts. I have found no reference of the ARN-5 equipment being used 
> in anything but cargo planes so wonder about it's install in a Mustang. 
> Have yet to identify what would have been mounted in the FT-293-A? As 
> additional information, this aircraft was used as an airframe maintenance trainer 
> at Chanute Air Force Base so anything is possible.
> Comments appreciated,
> Curt
> 

Robert Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480

From kk5f at earthlink.net  Sat Apr 18 10:30:11 2009
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 09:30:11 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Mustang Radio Equipment
Message-ID: <5570234.1240065012002.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>we have empty MT-28/ARN-5 and FT-293-A mounts. I have found no reference of the ARN-5
>equipment being used in anything but cargo planes so wonder about it's install in a
>Mustang.

I suppose it is logical that eventually fighter aircraft received the SCS-51 instrument
landing system (ILS).  The MT-28 is for the R-89/ARN-5A (and later) UHF glide path
receiver.  Its output goes to the vertical-travel needle on a I-101 cross-needle display
on the panel.

>Have yet to identify what would have been mounted in the FT-293-A?

That is the mount for the BC-733 VHF localizer receiver (part of RC-103) in the ILS. 
Its output goes to the horizontal-travel needle of the I-101.

Both the BC-733 and the AN/ARN-5 are controlled by a common BC-732 control box.  Usually
a common dipole/ram's horn antenna for both receivers (AS-27/ARN-5) would be used.

Most of this gear is readily available.  Connectors and twin-ax RF cables can be a problem.

Mike / KK5F

From WA5CAB at cs.com  Sat Apr 18 10:53:41 2009
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:53:41 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] BC-348 Questions
Message-ID: <c05.5ca83117.371b4375@cs.com>

Mack, Hutch's figures are of course correct.  The B+ voltage and current 
drain are both too high.  For cross-check, the DM-28's were mostly rated 220 
VDC @ 70 MA output, and the receivers were sometimes used to power other 
equipment in the aircraft.  Common problems with ham hacked BC-348's were B+ too 
high and removal of the Audio Pack, replaced by a garden variety plate to 
VC transformer, with the B- tied directly to ground, removing the bias 
voltage from the audio amp.  Which causes the audio amp tube to draw more current. 
 So if the audio pack was removed, that could be the problem rather than 
more bad capacitors.

Hutch, minor correction.  101-A is the audio transformer and 101-B the 
coil.  There is also a 101-C capacitor.  Mack, if your set has had the audio 
pack removed, I have several of them.

General comment.  The audio packs for the BC-348-EMOPS  group and 
BC-348-HKLR group (and the associated BC-224's and early models) are all 
significantly different from those in the BC-348-JNQ.  The audio pack from the JNQ can 
be used in the others by adding the capacitor externally and grounding one 
end of the choke, but not vice-versa.  In all but the JNQ, the B- choke goes 
to ground inside the can.  In the JNQ the B- choke goes to the audio amp grid 
and the ground connection is through a pair of 50 ohm resistors in 
parallel.  The only differences between the majority of the audio packs are circuit 
symbol number (101- or 123-), terminal numbering, and the early ones do not 
have a Lo-Z tap on the audio transformer secondary.

In a message dated 4/18/2009 9:21:30 AM Central Daylight Time, 
olegerityincj at austin.rr.com writes: 
> Mack -
> Short answers 1.  To much voltage.  2. The draw should be about 50-55ma 
> @200V.
> The voltage should be about 220V - 17V = 203V to ground from the B+ 
> rail.  The negative lead off the power supply goes, went, to a coil then 
> to ground developing a ~ -17v bias for the audio tube VT-48, type 41 
> tube.   There should be part, 101 audio pack, consisting of 101-A is the 
> coil and 101-B is the audio transformer. 
> Hutch
> 
> 
> Mack wrote:
> >I'm restoring a BC-348-O. Can anyone tell me how much current the B+ 
> circuit should draw? I'm drawing 70 ma at 250V. Is that a bit high? Might there 
> be another leaky capacitor that I haven't found? It's also  pretty deaf 
> but I'll work on that after I'm sure it's not drawing too much current. 
> >
> >So far I've thoroughly cleaned the rig and replaced most of the non-mica 
> caps. I've also completely rebuilt the AC power supply. After I'm sure it's 
> working electrically then I'll tackle all the cosmetics with completely 
> stripping the paint and refinishing. 
> >
> >The BC-348 was the first receiver I owned as a Novice 41 years ago and 
> I'm trying to rebuilt a bit of that nostalgia. Thank you in advance for any 
> advice. 
> 

Robert & Susan Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480

From wh7hg.hi at gmail.com  Sat Apr 18 11:46:38 2009
From: wh7hg.hi at gmail.com (Michael Tauson)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 05:46:38 -1000
Subject: [Milsurplus] Mustang Radio Equipment
In-Reply-To: <cd2.4f93f154.371b3c09@cs.com>
References: <cd2.4f93f154.371b3c09@cs.com>
Message-ID: <c34299fb0904180846x62a04d29g3d87dbab21f08819@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 4:22 AM,  <WA5CAB at cs.com> wrote:

> MT-28/ARN-5 is also the mount for the AM-26/AIC. ?But that makes if
> anything less sense than the AN/ARN-5.

> FT-293-A is the mount for the BC-733 Localizer Receiver (p/o RC-103).

Actually, it kind of makes sense for at least post-war guard and
reserve units to be equipped (or retro-fitted) for ILS approaches.
The RC-103 was available and would have given the P-51 greater
capabilities as far as getting back on the ground safely was
concerned.  Pilots usually liked that outcome since it involved a lot
less paperwork.

> I have the dim recollection that there was another NAV set whose "box" looks like the R-
> 89/ARN-5 but can't recall what it was. ?Might be a false memory, too.

There were three receivers used with the AN/ARN-5 system, with the
R-445/ARN-5D being the last.  This one had six channels to match the
BC-733's six channels (Previous versions had one or three channels -
R-57 & R-89 resectively.) so was an ideal mate.

Best regards,

Michael, WH7HG

From WA5CAB at cs.com  Sat Apr 18 12:00:25 2009
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:00:25 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] Mustang Radio Equipment
Message-ID: <d64.38964657.371b5319@cs.com>

I guess that I phrased that poorly.  I meant that as an explanation for the 
presence of the empty MT-28, the AM-26 made no sense even though it would 
fit it.

In a message dated 4/18/2009 10:46:57 AM Central Daylight Time, 
wh7hg.hi at gmail.com writes: 
> 
> >MT-28/ARN-5 is also the mount for the AM-26/AIC.  But that makes if
> >anything less sense than the AN/ARN-5.
> 
> >FT-293-A is the mount for the BC-733 Localizer Receiver (p/o RC-103).
> 
> Actually, it kind of makes sense for at least post-war guard and
> reserve units to be equipped (or retro-fitted) for ILS approaches.
> The RC-103 was available and would have given the P-51 greater
> capabilities as far as getting back on the ground safely was
> concerned.  Pilots usually liked that outcome since it involved a lot
> less paperwork.
> 

Robert & Susan Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480

From scr287 at sbcglobal.net  Sat Apr 18 13:20:55 2009
From: scr287 at sbcglobal.net (Jack Antonio)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:20:55 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] RC-103 (was Mustang Radio Equipment)
Message-ID: <49EA0BF7.8010708@sbcglobal.net>

It would be interesting to know if there
is an FT-292 mount for the BC-732 control box
in the cockpit. That is probably the hardest
to locate piece of the RC-103 system.

Which leads me to wonder, was there a panel
mount (either 6" or 5 3/4" ) replacement for
the BC-732?. My 1949 revision of the RC-103
manual only lists the BC-732.

Jack Antonio WA7DIA
scr287 at sbcglobal.net


From jydsk at tds.net  Sat Apr 18 13:22:51 2009
From: jydsk at tds.net (Steve Hilsz)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:22:51 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] 5844 and 6Sl7 Vacuum Tubes FS
Message-ID: <C48F909418EA4F3EAA4F0A2CEE0239C5@warehouse>

I have 17 each 6SL7GT or WGT vacuum tubes for sale, these were bulk tubes 
from an old warehouse. The 6SL7 tubes are mostly JAN, tested and guaranteed, 
$3.50 each plus postage. I have 18 each new old stock JAN 5844 vacuum tubes 
for sale, in original military boxes, $2 each plus postage.

Steve Hilsz
jydsk at tds.net


From AAF-Radio-1 at aafradio.org  Sat Apr 18 14:52:20 2009
From: AAF-Radio-1 at aafradio.org (Mike Hanz)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 14:52:20 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] RC-103 (was Mustang Radio Equipment)
In-Reply-To: <49EA0BF7.8010708@sbcglobal.net>
References: <49EA0BF7.8010708@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49EA2164.1070700@aafradio.org>

Jack Antonio wrote:

>Which leads me to wonder, was there a panel
>mount (either 6" or 5 3/4" ) replacement for
>the BC-732?. 
>

Yes - I have one somewhere around here for a B-29 - but as I recall it 
was made to mount either in the center console or overhead, so it 
doesn't have a surrounding box where the nomenclature would be stamped - 
just a small panel, with a pendant cable with terminals on the end of 
it.  If I can find it I'll take a photo and send it.  It's probably in 
the same box that has a similar panel for the ART-13. :'(

73,
Mike

From wctaylor at juno.com  Sat Apr 18 16:32:09 2009
From: wctaylor at juno.com (William C Taylor)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:32:09 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] BC221 part needed
Message-ID: <20090418.153209.1832.0.wctaylor@juno.com>

I'm looking for the mixer choke for a BC-221-F. It's designated part #30
and is a 450 henry AF choke. If anybody has that would like to sell, let
me know.

Thanks
Bill Taylor
KD4LXC
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From hankarn at pacbell.net  Sat Apr 18 16:39:11 2009
From: hankarn at pacbell.net (Dan Arney)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:39:11 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] NEED MANUAL For GE SSB ADAPTER
Message-ID: <49EA3A6F.6080001@pacbell.net>

I need a manual for my GE SSB ADAPTER 4SR1.
Original in nice copy OK, not on BAMA.

TIA

Hank

KN6DI


From ranickel at comcast.net  Sat Apr 18 17:26:56 2009
From: ranickel at comcast.net (Robert Nickels)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 16:26:56 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCR-694 Training Film
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV881B3227BCCC88AA8891EE4780@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.55.1239897609.15460.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<BAY109-DAV881B3227BCCC88AA8891EE4780@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <49EA45A0.3000707@comcast.net>

Hue Miller wrote:
> Did we already mention the You Tube, SCR-694
> training film? Now, this is cool!  
It's new to me at least and Very Cool!   Downloaded and saved, thanks Hue.

73, Bob W9RAN


From w7qho at aol.com  Sat Apr 18 18:01:37 2009
From: w7qho at aol.com (mac)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:01:37 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCR-694 Training Film
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV881B3227BCCC88AA8891EE4780@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.55.1239897609.15460.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<BAY109-DAV881B3227BCCC88AA8891EE4780@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4FBAD25E-78FE-46A8-84C9-5C40F86B483F@aol.com>

First saw the film at an MRCG meet a couple of years ago.  More   
promotional than training but interesting nonetheless.

Dennis D.  W7QHO
Glendale, CA

************

On Apr 18, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Hue Miller wrote:

> Did we already mention the You Tube, SCR-694
> training film? Now, this is cool!  -Hue Miller
>
> http://www.armyradio.com/arsc/customer/pages.php?pageurl=/publish/SCR-69
> 4_Film/SCR-694_Film.htm
>
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From k2gkk at hotmail.com  Sat Apr 18 18:46:32 2009
From: k2gkk at hotmail.com (D C *Mac* Macdonald)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 17:46:32 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCR-694 Training Film
In-Reply-To: <4FBAD25E-78FE-46A8-84C9-5C40F86B483F@aol.com>
References: <mailman.55.1239897609.15460.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<BAY109-DAV881B3227BCCC88AA8891EE4780@phx.gbl> 
	<4FBAD25E-78FE-46A8-84C9-5C40F86B483F@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BLU129-W13FD18206B32EA8A52B92BF1780@phx.gbl>


Please, folks, when you post even medium lengths URLs,
enclose them in parenthesis marks so that there is at
least SOME chance of their being useful after they
have suffered from carriage returns in their middles.
 
(http://www.armyradio.com/arsc/customer/pages.php?pageurl=/publish/SCR-694_Film/SCR-694_Film.htm)

73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
Oklahoma City, OK



* In my many years, I have come to the conclusion that one useless *
* man is a shame, two is a law firm and three or more is Congress. *

* -- John Adams (1735- 1826) *


----------------------------------------
> From: w7qho at aol.com
> To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:01:37 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] SCR-694 Training Film
>
> First saw the film at an MRCG meet a couple of years ago. More
> promotional than training but interesting nonetheless.
>
> Dennis D. W7QHO
> Glendale, CA
>
> ************
>
> On Apr 18, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Hue Miller wrote:
>
>> Did we already mention the You Tube, SCR-694
>> training film? Now, this is cool! -Hue Miller
>>
>> http://www.armyradio.com/arsc/customer/pages.php?pageurl=/publish/SCR-69
>> 4_Film/SCR-694_Film.htm
>>
>

From spike.dennis at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 18 18:52:18 2009
From: spike.dennis at yahoo.com (Spike Dennis)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:52:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCR-694 Training Film
In-Reply-To: <BLU129-W13FD18206B32EA8A52B92BF1780@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.55.1239897609.15460.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<BAY109-DAV881B3227BCCC88AA8891EE4780@phx.gbl>
	<4FBAD25E-78FE-46A8-84C9-5C40F86B483F@aol.com>
	<BLU129-W13FD18206B32EA8A52B92BF1780@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <534636.37931.qm@web45701.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


OR, you can simply copy/paste the URL to your browser's address bar.

KB0SFP
Monitor(all USB): 
3996, 5403.5, 7296, 14342.5, 18157.5



----- Original Message ----
> From: D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk at hotmail.com>
> To: w7qho at aol.com; Military Surplus Mail List <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 5:46:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] SCR-694 Training Film
> 
> 
> Please, folks, when you post even medium lengths URLs,
> enclose them in parenthesis marks so that there is at
> least SOME chance of their being useful after they
> have suffered from carriage returns in their middles.
> 
> (http://www.armyradio.com/arsc/customer/pages.php?pageurl=/publish/SCR-694_Film/SCR-694_Film.htm)
> 
> 73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
> Oklahoma City, OK
> 
> 
> 
> * In my many years, I have come to the conclusion that one useless *
> * man is a shame, two is a law firm and three or more is Congress. *
> 
> * -- John Adams (1735- 1826) *
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------
> > From: w7qho at aol.com
> > To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> > Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:01:37 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] SCR-694 Training Film
> >
> > First saw the film at an MRCG meet a couple of years ago. More
> > promotional than training but interesting nonetheless.
> >
> > Dennis D. W7QHO
> > Glendale, CA
> >
> > ************
> >
> > On Apr 18, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Hue Miller wrote:
> >
> >> Did we already mention the You Tube, SCR-694
> >> training film? Now, this is cool! -Hue Miller
> >>
> >> http://www.armyradio.com/arsc/customer/pages.php?pageurl=/publish/SCR-69
> >> 4_Film/SCR-694_Film.htm
> >>
> >
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From k2gkk at hotmail.com  Sat Apr 18 19:05:58 2009
From: k2gkk at hotmail.com (D C *Mac* Macdonald)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 18:05:58 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCR-694 Training Film
In-Reply-To: <534636.37931.qm@web45701.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.55.1239897609.15460.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<BAY109-DAV881B3227BCCC88AA8891EE4780@phx.gbl>
	<4FBAD25E-78FE-46A8-84C9-5C40F86B483F@aol.com>
	<BLU129-W13FD18206B32EA8A52B92BF1780@phx.gbl> 
	<534636.37931.qm@web45701.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU129-W22732EEEF5D4585464120FF1780@phx.gbl>


Once it has been broken, it doesn't seem to want to go
back together in one copy and paste try.  Yes, you can
paste the first part then ADD the remaining parts, but
it is awkward and doesn't need to be done if the
originator will post it "helpfully" the first time!
 
73 - Mac
 

----------------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:52:18 -0700
> From: spike.dennis at yahoo.com
> To: k2gkk at hotmail.com; w7qho at aol.com; milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] SCR-694 Training Film
>
>
> OR, you can simply copy/paste the URL to your browser's address bar.
>
> KB0SFP
> Monitor(all USB):
> 3996, 5403.5, 7296, 14342.5, 18157.5
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: D C *Mac* Macdonald 
>> To: w7qho at aol.com; Military Surplus Mail List 
>> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 5:46:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] SCR-694 Training Film
>>
>>
>> Please, folks, when you post even medium lengths URLs,
>> enclose them in parenthesis marks so that there is at
>> least SOME chance of their being useful after they
>> have suffered from carriage returns in their middles.
>>
>> (http://www.armyradio.com/arsc/customer/pages.php?pageurl=/publish/SCR-694_Film/SCR-694_Film.htm)
>>
>> 73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
>> Oklahoma City, OK
>>

From w7qho at aol.com  Sat Apr 18 19:07:09 2009
From: w7qho at aol.com (mac)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 16:07:09 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCR-694 Training Film
In-Reply-To: <BLU129-W22732EEEF5D4585464120FF1780@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.55.1239897609.15460.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<BAY109-DAV881B3227BCCC88AA8891EE4780@phx.gbl>
	<4FBAD25E-78FE-46A8-84C9-5C40F86B483F@aol.com>
	<BLU129-W13FD18206B32EA8A52B92BF1780@phx.gbl>
	<534636.37931.qm@web45701.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<BLU129-W22732EEEF5D4585464120FF1780@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <EF7CD11C-BF32-405E-AE3D-294347CD1EEA@aol.com>

Mac,

OK, but please note that I was not the originator.

Dennis D.  W7QHO
Glendale, CA

On Apr 18, 2009, at 4:05 PM, D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote:

> Once it has been broken, it doesn't seem to want to go
> back together in one copy and paste try.  Yes, you can
> paste the first part then ADD the remaining parts, but
> it is awkward and doesn't need to be done if the
> originator will post it "helpfully" the first time!


From k2gkk at hotmail.com  Sat Apr 18 19:11:57 2009
From: k2gkk at hotmail.com (D C *Mac* Macdonald)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 18:11:57 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCR-694 Training Film
In-Reply-To: <EF7CD11C-BF32-405E-AE3D-294347CD1EEA@aol.com>
References: <mailman.55.1239897609.15460.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<BAY109-DAV881B3227BCCC88AA8891EE4780@phx.gbl>
	<4FBAD25E-78FE-46A8-84C9-5C40F86B483F@aol.com>
	<BLU129-W13FD18206B32EA8A52B92BF1780@phx.gbl>
	<534636.37931.qm@web45701.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<BLU129-W22732EEEF5D4585464120FF1780@phx.gbl> 
	<EF7CD11C-BF32-405E-AE3D-294347CD1EEA@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BLU129-W22540246B57DF960137F67F1780@phx.gbl>


Dennis, I apologize if I offended you in any way!
I did note that it was originally posted by another
individual, but that message had already gone to
the bit bucket.  I was merely attempting to get
helpful info out to a large group of individuals.
 
73 -  Mac, K2GKK


----------------------------------------
> From: w7qho at aol.com
> To: k2gkk at hotmail.com
> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 16:07:09 -0700
> CC: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] SCR-694 Training Film
>
> Mac,
>
> OK, but please note that I was not the originator.
>
> Dennis D. W7QHO
> Glendale, CA
>
> On Apr 18, 2009, at 4:05 PM, D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote:
>
>> Once it has been broken, it doesn't seem to want to go
>> back together in one copy and paste try. Yes, you can
>> paste the first part then ADD the remaining parts, but
>> it is awkward and doesn't need to be done if the
>> originator will post it "helpfully" the first time!

From smithab11 at comcast.net  Sat Apr 18 19:12:27 2009
From: smithab11 at comcast.net (B. Smith)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 19:12:27 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCR-694 film
Message-ID: <F7AA4D21C7DD4D3C9DAA2B97FABD8088@BCXHTR8HVC4P>

Is also on YouTube.
Parts 1,2 and 3.
Part one at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACLE6YTV28

k4che

From w7qho at aol.com  Sat Apr 18 19:15:51 2009
From: w7qho at aol.com (mac)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 16:15:51 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCR-694 Training Film
In-Reply-To: <534636.37931.qm@web45701.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.55.1239897609.15460.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<BAY109-DAV881B3227BCCC88AA8891EE4780@phx.gbl>
	<4FBAD25E-78FE-46A8-84C9-5C40F86B483F@aol.com>
	<BLU129-W13FD18206B32EA8A52B92BF1780@phx.gbl>
	<534636.37931.qm@web45701.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <EB2103F1-47B8-4491-A869-53F2DB2D0E2B@aol.com>

In this case, one can also go to YouTube <http://www.youtube.com> and  
search on scr-694 (and while you're there search on w7qho and take a  
look at some of my stuff :^)

Dennis D.  W7QHO
Glendale, CA

On Apr 18, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Spike Dennis wrote:

> OR, you can simply copy/paste the URL to your browser's address bar.


From kargo_cult at msn.com  Sun Apr 19 07:18:17 2009
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 04:18:17 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCR-694 Training Film
References: <mailman.5318.1240096167.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV356E0B967D153324DB58AE4780@phx.gbl>

Is this short enuff?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltIvySP-u6M
BTW, they didn't throw the PE-237 into the pond!
It would go straight to the bottom.
-Hue Miller

From w7qho at aol.com  Sat Apr 18 19:21:01 2009
From: w7qho at aol.com (mac)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 16:21:01 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCR-694 Training Film
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV356E0B967D153324DB58AE4780@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.5318.1240096167.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<BAY109-DAV356E0B967D153324DB58AE4780@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C4DDE395-B387-435A-BA64-BB0585B9C2DA@aol.com>

That scene ended up on the cutting room floor :^)

DD


On Apr 19, 2009, at 4:18 AM, Hue Miller wrote:

> BTW, they didn't throw the PE-237 into the pond!
> It would go straight to the bottom.


From kargo_cult at msn.com  Sun Apr 19 07:27:42 2009
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 04:27:42 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCR-694 Army Training Film, more on
References: <mailman.5318.1240096167.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV70987C8EC9EC8472C4D1CE4780@phx.gbl>

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACLE6YTV28&feature=related>

Part1 of the SCR-694 Training Film:
German radio on the left, Torn Fu.d2 ( similar in purpose to our TBY -
note 2 separate tuning dials - and similar frequency range - but
MUCH larger and required a separately cabled battery box of same
size - so a 2 man load. Radio on right, 5WS, a five-watt transmitter
to go with receiver Torn E.b. or Spez445, four-tube regenerative.
Japanese radio is vehicular, VHF, superregen receiver, type
(i think i recall) Mark 305. At about 1:49 in, i believe you have a side
view of the transmitter section showing the "short 807 tube" equivalent
to our later 5933. -Hue Miller


From olegerityincj at austin.rr.com  Sat Apr 18 19:47:51 2009
From: olegerityincj at austin.rr.com (John Hutchins)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 18:47:51 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] I-177 Nolan Lee's Xcell spread sheet.
In-Reply-To: <BAY115-W476EC8FC78E28EFC698CD3FB780@phx.gbl>
References: <49E952DB.8040900@austin.rr.com>
	<BAY115-W476EC8FC78E28EFC698CD3FB780@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <49EA66A7.80206@austin.rr.com>

J -

Thanks, I do have the Xcell spread sheet.  For those that do no have a 
copy;  It can be retrieved from the way back macheine web site for those 
that did not save his data.
I was wondering if anyone was improving, cataloging, any changes keeping 
it fresh so to speak.

Thanks
Hutch

J ALLEN CALL wrote:
>
> Hello:  Would you send me Nolan Lees' spreadsheet URL?  Thanks
>  
>
>
> > Group -
> >
> > I was testing tubes with the I-177-B tube tester using Nolan Lee's 
> Xcell
> > spread sheet data.
> > The 1625 setup <is> or <is not> correct had to pull out the paper 
> manuals.
> >
> > The TM have a conflicting settings: TB-11-2627 <> TB 11-2627-C2
> > This is confusing. Anyone else have the same dilemma ?
> >
> > While on the subject - Is anyone maintaining Nolan Lee's Xcell 
> Spread sheet?
> >
> > Later
> > Hutch
> >


From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Sat Apr 18 23:09:25 2009
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 23:09:25 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] I-177 Nolan Lee's Xcell spread sheet.
In-Reply-To: <49EA66A7.80206@austin.rr.com>
References: <49E952DB.8040900@austin.rr.com>
	<BAY115-W476EC8FC78E28EFC698CD3FB780@phx.gbl>
	<49EA66A7.80206@austin.rr.com>
Message-ID: <9ccb8c510904182009x4ddab00sd2ed0e22308b42ce@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:47 PM, John Hutchins
<olegerityincj at austin.rr.com> wrote:

> I was wondering if anyone was improving, cataloging, any changes keeping
> it fresh so to speak.

Hutch -

I'm afraid what you have is as good as it gets. A number of us from
the R-390 list were going to help him with this and another project
dating from the late 90s when he went MIA around 2003. One of the list
members there and here eventually called to discover he'd had a
stroke, and the rest is history as they say. He left a big void as did
Barry Hauser.

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

From radio at telus.net  Sat Apr 18 23:13:40 2009
From: radio at telus.net (Bruce MacMillan)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 20:13:40 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] I-177 Nolan Lee's Xcell spread sheet.
In-Reply-To: <49EA66A7.80206@austin.rr.com>
References: <49E952DB.8040900@austin.rr.com>	<BAY115-W476EC8FC78E28EFC698CD3FB780@phx.gbl>
	<49EA66A7.80206@austin.rr.com>
Message-ID: <49EA96E4.2000406@telus.net>

One of the fellows on the antique radios forum has recreated Nolan's 
website as best as could be recovered.

http://www.antiqueairwaves.com/nlee/

It has a lot of the files from Nolan's original site.

Bruce   ve7mt

From Military1944 at aol.com  Sun Apr 19 14:21:59 2009
From: Military1944 at aol.com (Military1944 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:21:59 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] Right biased (when off) S meter wanted
Message-ID: <bd8.32974f3a.371cc5c7@aol.com>

Right biased (when off) S meter wanted
 
A friend has asked if I can help find a right biased s meter.
----------------------------------------------------------
The body of the meter is round 55mm diameter with a square front plate  
about 2,4 to 2,5 inches and is mounted by four screws in every corner of the  
square plate.The best would be to find a right biased S-meter, but if there 
is a  left biased S-meter instead which will fit as well (measurements) with  
a current of 100?A then I will take it too. I will change the  separate 
electronical circuit inside the receiver especially for the  meter.Perhaps 
someone in the groups will find an old fashioned  one like the SX-28 or NC-125 
have or a left biased one with same size as I  said, thumb up or better BOTH 
thumbs up.
 
------------------------------------ 
If you can help please reply to Peter direct at:  _Peter.Benze at t-online.de_ 
(mailto:Peter.Benze at t-online.de)  
cheers, Ben. 


From gzook at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 19 14:33:03 2009
From: gzook at yahoo.com (Glen Zook)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 11:33:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Right biased (when off) S meter wanted
In-Reply-To: <bd8.32974f3a.371cc5c7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <577333.99215.qm@web52904.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


Do like a number of the "olde tyme" manufacturers did, mount the meter upside down.

Glen, K9STH

Website:  http://k9sth.com


--- On Sun, 4/19/09, Military1944 at aol.com <Military1944 at aol.com> wrote:

A friend has asked if I can help find a right biased s meter.
----------------------------------------------------------
The body of the meter is round 55mm diameter with a square front plate about 2,4 to 2,5 inches and is mounted by four screws in every corner of the square plate.The best would be to find a right biased S-meter, but if there is a  left biased S-meter instead which will fit as well (measurements) with a current of 100?A then I will take it too. I will change the separate electronical circuit inside the receiver especially for the  meter.Perhaps someone in the groups will find an old fashioned  one like the SX-28 or NC-125 have or a left biased one with same size as I  said, thumb up or better BOTH thumbs up.


      

From cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org  Sun Apr 19 14:33:27 2009
From: cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org (Marty Reynolds)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:33:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] More SCR-284
In-Reply-To: <128998.29174.qm@web45716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <be2.49a15eb9.371aceff@cs.com>
	<128998.29174.qm@web45716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3416.24.30.81.88.1240166007.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>


> Some conversion information came through
> MARS & CD programs(BC-1306, GRC-9, BC-1000-6mtrs)?those members of which
> enjoyed a little better access these goodies.
>

BC-1000 6m conversion is something you shouldn't try at home

   mr


From cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org  Sun Apr 19 14:41:22 2009
From: cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org (Marty Reynolds)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:41:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Mustang Radio Equipment
In-Reply-To: <cd2.4f93f154.371b3c09@cs.com>
References: <cd2.4f93f154.371b3c09@cs.com>
Message-ID: <3422.24.30.81.88.1240166482.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>


> Curt,
>
> MT-28/ARN-5 is also the mount for the AM-26/AIC.  But that makes if
> anything less sense than the AN/ARN-5.  I have the dim recollection that
> there was
> another NAV set whose "box" looks like the R-89/ARN-5 but can't recall
> what
> it was.  Might be a false memory, too.
>
> FT-293-A is the mount for the BC-733 Localizer Receiver (p/o RC-103).
>

Eureka

ARN-5 is 330-335 mc gide slope rx, BC-733 is 110mc localizer.
Together they spell I-L-S.

Think they ran the dual-needle I-101.  Look for one of those on
the panel Curt

   Marty

From jfor at quik.com  Sun Apr 19 15:20:49 2009
From: jfor at quik.com (J. Forster)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:20:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Mustang Radio Equipment
In-Reply-To: <3422.24.30.81.88.1240166482.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>
References: <cd2.4f93f154.371b3c09@cs.com>
	<3422.24.30.81.88.1240166482.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>
Message-ID: <1428.12.6.201.82.1240168849.squirrel@pop.quik.com>

Nope. Sorry.

The Eureka is the land based end of the Rebecca-Eureka transponder /
beacon system used for Para drops. The Eureka is the AN/PPN-1 or PPN-2.

:=))

-John


> Eureka
>
> ARN-5 is 330-335 mc gide slope rx, BC-733 is 110mc localizer.
> Together they spell I-L-S.
>
> Think they ran the dual-needle I-101.  Look for one of those on
> the panel Curt
>
>    Marty



From olegerityincj at austin.rr.com  Sun Apr 19 17:47:37 2009
From: olegerityincj at austin.rr.com (John Hutchins)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:47:37 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] Electrolytic CAP question
Message-ID: <49EB9BF9.6070606@austin.rr.com>

Group -
Electrolytic CAP question  Above 25V, @ 50V a lytic is drawing 1.1 - .9 
uA at leaset to a count of 60 secconds.  This is not good correct?  I 
have a bad Cap.

Thanks
Hutch

From cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org  Sun Apr 19 18:09:36 2009
From: cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org (Marty Reynolds)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:09:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Anyone recognize a 50s FBI hf surveilance radio?
Message-ID: <51396.76.17.116.235.1240178976.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>





10-hut!   Here's 2 fotos

    http://qsl.asti.net/May-day_155.jpg

    http://qsl.asti.net/May-day_156.jpg

This gizmo was a Revenooer (A&TT / alcohol & tobacco tax) set maybe built
in Portland, OR by a USFS contractor.  Probably in late 50s as  divined fm
pix.  And a good s.w.a.g is set designed by hams.  This one crystalled for
75m.

Guessing that, it's too new for the "Radio for the Fire Line" book re USFS
2-ways.

I'd just love any data a'tall

    Tnx,

     Marty aka aa4rm






From cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org  Sun Apr 19 18:15:44 2009
From: cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org (Marty Reynolds)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:15:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Anyone recognize a 50s FBI hf surveilance radio?
Message-ID: <51421.76.17.116.235.1240179344.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>





10-hut!   Here's 2 fotos

    http://qsl.asti.net/May-day_155.jpg

    http://qsl.asti.net/May-day_156.jpg

This gizmo was a Revenooer (A&TT / alcohol & tobacco tax) set maybe built
in Portland, OR by a USFS contractor.  Probably in late 50s as  divined fm
pix.  And a good s.w.a.g is set designed by hams.  This one crystalled for
75m.

Guessing that, it's too new for the "Radio for the Fire Line" book re USFS
2-ways.

I'd just love any data a'tall

    Tnx,

     Marty aka aa4rm






From jfor at quik.com  Sun Apr 19 18:29:45 2009
From: jfor at quik.com (J. Forster)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:29:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Electrolytic CAP question
In-Reply-To: <49EB9BF9.6070606@austin.rr.com>
References: <49EB9BF9.6070606@austin.rr.com>
Message-ID: <1638.12.6.201.192.1240180185.squirrel@pop.quik.com>

I'd not sweat it. Let it run at rated voltage for a day or two. If it's a
few uA, it's likely OK.

-John


> Group -
> Electrolytic CAP question  Above 25V, @ 50V a lytic is drawing 1.1 - .9
> uA at leaset to a count of 60 secconds.  This is not good correct?  I
> have a bad Cap.
>
> Thanks
> Hutch



From WA5CAB at cs.com  Sun Apr 19 18:42:02 2009
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:42:02 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] Electrolytic CAP question
Message-ID: <bc4.470f8931.371d02ba@cs.com>

I agree.  The ZM-3A uses a 0-50 mA meter for electrolytic leakage 
measurements.  1 uA won't even wiggle the needle.  What I'd be concerned about with 
that low a reading would be whether it might be open.  Check that the 
capacitance value is within tolerance.  One might state the requirements  for 
declaring that a capacitor is good as something like the leakage current being 
low being a necessary but not sufficient requirement.  Or to put it another 
way, an open capacitor will pass the leakage test.

In a message dated 4/19/2009 5:30:11 PM Central Daylight Time, 
jfor at quik.com writes: 
> I'd not sweat it. Let it run at rated voltage for a day or two. If it's a
> few uA, it's likely OK.
> 
> -John
> 
> 
> >Group -
> >Electrolytic CAP question  Above 25V, @ 50V a lytic is drawing 1.1 - .9
> >uA at leaset to a count of 60 secconds.  This is not good correct?  I
> >have a bad Cap.
> >
> 

Robert Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480

From wh7hg.hi at gmail.com  Sun Apr 19 19:46:03 2009
From: wh7hg.hi at gmail.com (Michael Tauson)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:46:03 -1000
Subject: [Milsurplus] Mustang Radio Equipment
In-Reply-To: <3422.24.30.81.88.1240166482.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>
References: <cd2.4f93f154.371b3c09@cs.com>
	<3422.24.30.81.88.1240166482.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>
Message-ID: <c34299fb0904191646q4e5c7145u1188b8a8118924e3@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Marty Reynolds
<cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org> wrote:

> Eureka

Okay, Archimedes!  :-)

> Think they ran the dual-needle I-101. ?Look for one of those on
> the panel Curt

The I-101 was also popular with hams to make into a dual meter SWR
indicator (something of which I would know nothing about *cough*) by
tweaking the movements slightly then mounting them with the bearings
on the bottom two corners rather than top and left.  I can't remember
where the conversion was published but there was a meter face that
went with it to be copied and attached to the original to make it all
pretty and stuff.

I wish I could find that article.  There are a lot of civilian
cross-point indicators that I believe have the same movements in them
and it would be cool to make one ... er, again.  :-D

BEst regards,

Michael, WH7HG

From spike.dennis at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 19 21:35:40 2009
From: spike.dennis at yahoo.com (Spike Dennis)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:35:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Anybody ever seen any of these odball para-military
	sets?
Message-ID: <653430.96050.qm@web45707.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


HF/SSB?portables sets. Did some of these ever exist? Has anybody ever seen any of them or know where one might be found?

CR 10H/WP
2-30mc 2ch 15w hand-held ssb transceiver.
Marketed by International Telecom Systems, Foster City Ca.
Possibly made by CR Electronics(CR/10H/WP)

RT/PMC-12S
1.6-30mc synthesized 20w SSB manpack transceiver.
Stoner Communications Rancho Cucanonga Ca.(now SGC)
I have an RT/PMC-12 that is 2-15mc, 8 chan xtal control. ca.1972(thanks Hue for the manual).

SGC SG-705, HF/SSB portable, xtal control or synthesized. 
About the size of a child's lunch box.

SG-715
1.5-14.5mc SSB multi channel 20w, Portable SSB Radiotelephone.
Xtal control & synthesized versions.
SGC Bellevue Wa.

SG-715-S-DE
As above except 2-15mc SSB packset or 3-21mc.
Xtal control or synthesized versions.


Other Interesting Portable HF/SSB Radios:

HF Codan 8332 hand held transceiver.
Codan 6924-s Mk 2 lunchbox portable.
8121 small marine ssb as above.

Spilsbury SBX-11A Canadian lunchbox portable.

Japan Radio Company JSB-20 lunchbox portable. Where there any other variants?

CMC (Canadian Marconi Company) CP34 transceiver, 2-18mc, 20w, 9ch xtal, 10x23x34cm 6.6Kg

KB0SFP
Monitor(all USB): 
3996, 5403.5, 7296, 14342.5, 18157.5


      


From jpwatkins9 at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 19 22:25:07 2009
From: jpwatkins9 at yahoo.com (John Watkins)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:25:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] RT-70 case
Message-ID: <41161.96257.qm@web32404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


Hi All,

All of this talk about the RT-70 made me remember that I need a case for one.  Did the unthinkable and set a can of rose food on mine a few years ago and you guessed it, have a round ring eaten into the case.  The radio itself is an RT-70B new (unpacked it myself) from Fair Radio about 20 years ago.  Anyone have just the case that they don't need?

Thanks

John  WD5ENU/A45XV


      

From kargo_cult at msn.com  Mon Apr 20 10:41:08 2009
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:41:08 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] ATF Radio
References: <mailman.5472.1240194314.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV7B6D88D7B16FFF54961D1E4760@phx.gbl>

Marty, i think late 1940s to mid-1950s and not much later. Even the 
USFS was going to FM in the 1950s.I cannot understand why the
low frequency band when pre-USFS radios had pretty much gone
to 30+ Mc/s AM before the FM products appeared. If you think 
Portland, OR, that would probably be Radio Specialties Company.
Morrow also built many USFS radios but i think Morrow was a little
later and somehow it doesn't quite look Morrow to me. -Hue Miller 

From kargo_cult at msn.com  Mon Apr 20 10:45:27 2009
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:45:27 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] "Oddball Paramilitary Radios"
References: <mailman.5472.1240194314.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV5F67D4B35D8D3B051E8E8E4760@phx.gbl>

Dennis - think maybe you're kinda jumping the gun on calling
these paramilitary radios. Portable SSB radios were made for
other clients too. -Hue 

From spike.dennis at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 19 23:07:20 2009
From: spike.dennis at yahoo.com (Spike Dennis)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:07:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] ATF Radio
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV7B6D88D7B16FFF54961D1E4760@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.5472.1240194314.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<BAY109-DAV7B6D88D7B16FFF54961D1E4760@phx.gbl>
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The radio looks like a Radio Specialties Company product or one of it's sister companies.
Hue is correct. The USFS was using VHF/FM before ANYBODY else! They pioneered this mode before WW-II & after the war built the very first VHF/FM hand held transceiver(I have one). That said, there were still SPF portable HF/AM radios in use into the mid 1960's.

KB0SFP
Monitor(all USB): 
3996, 5403.5, 7296, 14342.5, 18157.5



----- Original Message ----
> From: Hue Miller <kargo_cult at msn.com>
> To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:41:08 AM
> Subject: [Milsurplus] ATF Radio
> 
> Marty, i think late 1940s to mid-1950s and not much later. Even the 
> USFS was going to FM in the 1950s.I cannot understand why the
> low frequency band when pre-USFS radios had pretty much gone
> to 30+ Mc/s AM before the FM products appeared. If you think 
> Portland, OR, that would probably be Radio Specialties Company.
> Morrow also built many USFS radios but i think Morrow was a little
> later and somehow it doesn't quite look Morrow to me. -Hue Miller 
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From spike.dennis at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 19 23:17:07 2009
From: spike.dennis at yahoo.com (Spike Dennis)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:17:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] "Oddball Paramilitary Radios"
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV5F67D4B35D8D3B051E8E8E4760@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.5472.1240194314.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<BAY109-DAV5F67D4B35D8D3B051E8E8E4760@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <234233.66976.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


> these paramilitary radios. Portable SSB radios were made for
> other clients too. -Hue 
--------------
Think so?
Most of the list was compiled from Jane's "Military Communications".
Maybe I should have used another disqualifier instead of "Paramilitary". Maybe quasi-military?

KB0SFP
Monitor(all USB): 
3996, 5403.5, 7296, 14342.5, 18157.5



----- Original Message ----
> From: Hue Miller <kargo_cult at msn.com>
> To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:45:27 AM
> Subject: [Milsurplus] "Oddball Paramilitary Radios"
> 
> Dennis - think maybe you're kinda jumping the gun on calling
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From radio at telus.net  Mon Apr 20 00:13:23 2009
From: radio at telus.net (Bruce MacMillan)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:13:23 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Anybody ever seen any of these odball
 para-military sets?
In-Reply-To: <653430.96050.qm@web45707.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <653430.96050.qm@web45707.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <49EBF663.8050103@telus.net>

Spike Dennis wrote:
> HF/SSB portables sets. Did some of these ever exist? Has anybody ever seen any of them or know where one might be found?
> Spilsbury SBX-11A Canadian lunchbox portable.
>   
SBX11/11A used by just about everybody from north pole to south pole. 
Very popular with trappers, geologists, explorers, govment people out in 
the boonies, etc. Japanese explorer Naomi Uemura used one when he walked 
solo to the north pole.
It was evaluated by the Canadian military as I have one marked Defense 
Research Establishment Ottawa.

> CMC (Canadian Marconi Company) CP34 transceiver, 2-18mc, 20w, 9ch xtal, 10x23x34cm 6.6Kg
>   
The CP24/34 was an attempt by Canadian Marconi to enter the SSB manpack 
market. I have a couple of CP24s which are a 4 channel version of the 
CP34. Not very popular and withdrawn in a short time.

Bruce   ve7mt



From kargo_cult at msn.com  Mon Apr 20 12:20:17 2009
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:20:17 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Silent Siege III
References: <mailman.5472.1240194314.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV10B7BEE6F40A37F256156CE4760@phx.gbl>

The book with the photo of the USCG beach
patrol and narrative mentioning model "S" 
Forest Service radio is "Silent Siege III". 
I saw from www.abebooks.com that you can
get a "Silent Siege II" there for about $15 
pre-owned. This book is about Japan's 
incindiery balloon assault on the forests
of the US. 
I googled the author's name, Bert Webber,
and found this: 
"...  During his time as a teacher, he became 
concerned over the lack of published works about
 more recent Northwest history. He was commissioned
 by Oregon State University Press to write the book,
 Retaliation, Japanese Attacks and Allied 
Countermeasures on the Pacific coast in World War
 11, which was later re-published as Silent Siege. 
Fascinated by Northwest history, Bert authored 86 
non-fiction books on the subject, 67 of which are 
still in print and available from his company, Pacific 
Northwest Books,
http://www.pnwbooks.com/nidx.html
which his family will continue to manage. He was a
frequent lecturer and radio show guest about the many 
aspects of his research and writings."
1921 - 2006. May he be in peace.
I found the link to the pnwbooks to reveal several 
fascinating titles about such topics as shipwrecks,
Aleutian campaign, relocation of Japanese nationals.
If the latter topic at all interests you, you might have
a look at the non-liberal viewpoint offered in some of
pnwbooks' offerings. Possibly potential ammo for some
debates or letters to the editor. 
James Barrows W7BCT (SK, may he be in peace) 
some years ago told me when he was working for
the FCC on the Oregon coast they heard some kind
of "wheedle wheedle" signal around 17 Mc/s he guessed,
that he thought was either a navigation signal for 
aircraft carriers or a tracking signal for balloons. I'd 
guess the latter as there was no HF navigation signal
sent from Japanese carriers or equiped on Japanese 
planes that i have become aware of, while i have seen
and read of a Japanese weather balloon transmitter,
which could have been similar to a transmitter used to
track the incindiery bomb balloons. -Hue Miller 

From kargo_cult at msn.com  Mon Apr 20 13:00:09 2009
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:00:09 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] ATF Radio
References: <mailman.5472.1240194314.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<BAY109-DAV7B6D88D7B16FFF54961D1E4760@phx.gbl>
	<338022.14935.qm@web45714.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV5A480FE044F7F2A86A91EE4760@phx.gbl>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Spike Dennis" <spike.dennis at yahoo.com>
> The radio looks like a Radio Specialties Company product or one of
it's sister companies.
> Hue is correct. The USFS was using VHF/FM before ANYBODY else! They
pioneered this mode before WW-II & after the war built the very first
VHF/FM hand held transceiver(I have one). That said, there were still
SPF portable HF/AM radios in use into the mid 1960's.

-Well, i'm partial to FS NON-fm radios but i don't think any FS was
quite
so progressive. They used VHF from around late 1930s but it was AM.
Police departments pioneered FM. I don't think any Forest Service
picked up FM til there were more portable and affordable FM portables
on the market. That would be around when Motorola and Radio Specialties
and Hallicrafters and maybe some others put out lunch box size FM
radios.
I was going to question the SPF set use date, but then i thought better.
Maybe 3 Mc/s AM endured to the end of HF-AM in 1976. It was just a
few years later that George Babits started coming up with lots of SPFs
and a JT-350. I was offered locally a Morrow AM base station, which
i declined (big mistake).
BTW, was just looking at some advertising for a book "Silent Siege",
Bert Webber. Has a photo of a USCG beach patroller carrying a rifle
and on his back, the wooden box model "S" radiophone, 2 tube VHF.
Another thing that interested me was its use over several miles reach
by the travelling outstation setting up the wire antenna on a ridgeline.
That is mobile communications the hard way, setting up a wire antenna,
but at least at 33 Mc/s it was much easier than the 1/2 wave antenna
for 3.2 Mc/s with the SPF.  -Hue Miller


From robandpj at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 20 05:39:15 2009
From: robandpj at earthlink.net (Robert Flory)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 05:39:15 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] US/A-1 (sic) receiver
Message-ID: <410-22009412093915921@earthlink.net>

Hi,

Glenn asked about a US/A-1 receiver.  

This type of device turn infrared into visible light.  I'm not familiar with this exact one, but like the US/B (type B) metascope, it uses visible light to excite a phosphor.  

Another model, US/AM uses radioactivity to excite the phosphor.  This item is really hot with alpha and gamma.  If you have one, get it behind some serious mass, or at some distance.

Used for signalling with filtered lights, and navigation with filtered beacons.

I sure would like a picture.

Rob Flory

From spike.dennis at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 20 07:45:29 2009
From: spike.dennis at yahoo.com (Spike Dennis)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 04:45:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] ATF Radio(USFS radio equipment)
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV5A480FE044F7F2A86A91EE4760@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.5472.1240194314.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<BAY109-DAV7B6D88D7B16FFF54961D1E4760@phx.gbl>
	<338022.14935.qm@web45714.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<BAY109-DAV5A480FE044F7F2A86A91EE4760@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <772182.75599.qm@web45707.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


The early USFS?did not?wait for "more portable and affordable" of anything.
?
Beginning just after WW-I(yes, that's ww-1)?they designed?& built their own communications equipment & continually struggled to find manufactures to produce their designs(inter Radio Specialties & at least a half dozen sister companies). The equipment they had in use pre-WW-II was way ahead of anything any branch of the US military had. Indeed, the design of the first mine detector can be linked directly to the USFS as it was first used by them to detect objects in saw logs that might damage the saw mill. It wasn't until the early 1950's that technology & industry began to catch up with them. They also pioneered aircraft communication techniques for observation planes just after ww-1.
?
While I too have always had an affection for FS radios I have never limited myself to just the HF sets. I feel that they are all historically significant. Some might ask why such a debate on milsurplus reflector. Well, many of the pre-war FS radios found their way into military & para-military(theres that word again)service both in the US & around the world.

KB0SFP
Monitor(all USB): 
3996, 5403..5, 7296, 14342.5, 18157.5



      


From kk5f at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 20 09:26:33 2009
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 08:26:33 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [Milsurplus] USFS...CCC Radio Ops
Message-ID: <12477419.1240233993410.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

The recent discussion of USFS radio operation before WWII calls to mind a similar network about which little seems to be documented:  Radio communications for the Civilian Conservation Corps.  I have a book of CCC memoirs and photos somewhere with pictures of a fixed Morse CCC station, and there is a description of an HF/AM portable set for the CCC in, IIRC, a 1937 QST.

Given the military-style organization of the CCC, it is logical that various forms of radio communications were utilized.  But there doesn't seem to be much information available on CCC radio systems, networks, and operations, and personnel.

Mike / KK5F

From kk5f at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 20 10:17:06 2009
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:17:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Anybody ever seen any of these odball
 para-military sets?
Message-ID: <20997414.1240237026212.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>> Spilsbury SBX-11A Canadian lunchbox portable.
  
>SBX11/11A used by just about everybody from north pole to south pole. 
>Very popular with trappers, geologists, explorers, govment people out in 
>the boonies, etc. Japanese explorer Naomi Uemura used one when he walked 
>solo to the north pole.
>It was evaluated by the Canadian military as I have one marked Defense 
>Research Establishment Ottawa.

I got a Spilsbury & Tindall, Ltd. SBX-11 from Ralph Hogan just a few months
ago. It has only two of the four channels configured, 4441.0 and 4472.5 kHz.
It has a label on the side which reads:  "T.F.S.S.  EMR  S.S.T.T."  indicating
the English and French initials of Technical Field Support Services of Natural
Resources Canada.  I don't know what "EMR" means.

It's remarkable that it saw the usage described.  It is, IMHO, rather flimsy,
unprotected, low-powered, and minimally featured.  On the plus side, I suspect
it is very inexpensive, and it uses nine common D-cells for power.

I'd prefer a Transworld PRC1099.  Though without doubt much more expensive, it
is full featured from 1.6 to 30 MHz, and it has performed well in arctic and
antarctic use with only an AT-271 whip antenna.  It is much better suited to
the various harsh environments found from pole to pole.

I've also seen a Kenwood TS-50S in arctic service, in that documentary of those
people who tried to recover a B-29 above the circle years ago.

Mike / KK5F
PS:  I have a "Bluenose" card in my wallet showing the date (14 AUG 1971) and
longitude (02-58.6E) of my first crossing into the Arctic.  I didn't need survival
gear...I had the aircraft carrier USS Intrepid (CVS-11) wrapped around me.

From cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org  Mon Apr 20 10:46:55 2009
From: cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org (Marty Reynolds)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:46:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] ATF Radio(USFS radio equipment)
In-Reply-To: <772182.75599.qm@web45707.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.5472.1240194314.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net><BAY109-DAV7B6D88D7B16FFF54961D1E4760@phx.gbl><338022.14935.qm@web45714.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><BAY109-DAV5A480FE044F7F2A86A91EE4760@phx.gbl>
	<772182.75599.qm@web45707.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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The rig's tag A&TT is the forerunner of ATF.  Alcohol &
Tobacco Tax was a FBI div'n.  For years I thot the fone
co.

Know ret'd FBI who's a ham.  He recognized rig big time &
told story of stake-out where wx cooled fast & 12' whip
began collapsing section by section.  Cover blown.

Those Thunder Road days guys loved their work because they got
to keep the captured cars.  Nice incentive

Bet they stayed low hf for same reason Stillwell did in Burma, etc.
To get out of the woods' canopy.

   Marty

From radio at telus.net  Mon Apr 20 11:18:44 2009
From: radio at telus.net (Bruce MacMillan)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 08:18:44 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Anybody ever seen any of these odball
 para-military sets?
In-Reply-To: <20997414.1240237026212.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <20997414.1240237026212.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <49EC9254.2070309@telus.net>

Mike Morrow wrote:
> It's remarkable that it saw the usage described.  It is, IMHO, rather flimsy,
> unprotected, low-powered, and minimally featured.  On the plus side, I suspect
> it is very inexpensive, and it uses nine common D-cells for power.
>
> Mike / KK5F

I agree that it is not a rugged military style rig. It was never meant 
to compete with die cast housings. The housing is aluminum to reduce 
weight and with the lid down is waterproof.
It's temp spec is -30C to +50C with stability +- 50 Hz. I don't recall 
what the actual cost was for this rig but it was kept low to help 
marketing. The radios were manufactured locally here in Vancouver, not 
off shore.

Unlike most military portables that use a specific lithium/gel/nicad 
power source with the SBX11 if your batteries are low you can just pop 
in to your local Hudson Bay trading post and pick up some D cells.

Bruce   ve7mt

From kargo_cult at msn.com  Mon Apr 20 13:26:32 2009
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:26:32 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] USFS Radios, again
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5516.1240234035.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.5516.1240234035.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <SNT109-W597D27DC241DCC937BC640E4760@phx.gbl>



 > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 04:45:29 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Spike Dennis spike.dennis at yahoo.com
 
> The early USFS?did not?wait for "more portable and affordable" of anything.
> ?
> Beginning just after WW-I(yes, that's ww-1)?they designed?& built their own communications equipment & continually struggled to find manufactures to produce their designs(inter Radio Specialties & at least a half dozen sister companies). The equipment they had in use pre-WW-II was way ahead of anything any branch of the US military had. Indeed, the design of the first mine detector can be linked directly to the USFS as it was first used by them to detect objects in saw logs that might damage the saw mill. It wasn't until the early 1950's that technology & industry began to catch up with them. They also pioneered aircraft communication techniques for observation planes just after ww-1.


Sorry, i don't see it that way. The type S, 2 tube superregen transceiver, what mil set

was it more advanced than? SPF, okay, very compact, but certainly not military

rugged, and limited range. One crystal frequency, internally set. Type SFX and FX, 

superregen walkie tallkies, what's progressive about those, after about 1941 ?

When you look at the schematics in a book

like the Forest Service's maintenance manual, what do you see that looks real progressive

or advanced for its time? The only thing advanced was, i think, that they did adopt

radio and sort of keep up with times, maybe lagging a little. I don't know of any pre-war

FM radio used by USFS or any state Forest Service. It's certainly not in the FS 

maintenance manual. 
I like the low HF rigs because they look like Boy Scout radios and they're QRP. But they're

not very rugged for bad weather use, and the light construction, wood boxes and such, superregen receivers,  shows the always limited money they had to work with. The only

FS rig i can think of that was on a par with military rigs was the Jeff-Trav JT-350, and it

was used by the military also. -Hue Miller 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From kk5f at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 20 14:12:39 2009
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:12:39 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Spilsbury SBX-11 - A True Classic
Message-ID: <12732354.1240251159215.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Bruce wrote:

>I agree that it is not a rugged military style rig. It was never meant 
>to compete with die cast housings. The housing is aluminum to reduce 
>weight and with the lid down is waterproof.
>It's temp spec is -30C to +50C with stability +- 50 Hz. I don't recall 
>what the actual cost was for this rig but it was kept low to help 
>marketing. The radios were manufactured locally here in Vancouver, not 
>off shore.

The 1984 and 1997 manuals rate stability as +/-100 Hz in that temperature
range, but that's still pretty good.  Frequency range is 1.6 to 10 MHz.
Max transmitter power is 10 watts PEP, USB.  Receiver drain is 30 mA,
Transmitter drain is 600 mA.  Six-dB receiver bandwidth is 2.1 kHz.  All
in all, this is not too shabby for a small eight-pound (with batteries
and accessories) unit that was designed more than 40 years ago, and
that had a reputation for outstanding reliability all through its
production history.

I didn't mean to sound too critical of the SBX-11/-11A.  It was made
from 1969 to 1999, and apparently it was/is THE main radio providing a
great deal of essential communications capability in the Canadian North
and other localities as well.  One can't argue with success like that.
I'm glad to have a veteran of such service in my collection.  It deserves
status as a "classic" radio set.

The main thing that put me off was the need for three special plug-in
coil assemblies for *each* of the four channels, in addition to two
crystals.

There's a fair amount of info at:

http://www.matthewkendall.com/electronics/sbx-11a

Mike / KK5F

From robandpj at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 20 16:48:01 2009
From: robandpj at earthlink.net (Robert Flory)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:48:01 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] CCC radio
Message-ID: <410-22009412020481218@earthlink.net>

Jim Farrior has written some about CCC radio.  He also served as a RADAR op with the British before going USMM as sparks.

http://home.comcast.net/~w4fok-2/

RF

From wh7hg.hi at gmail.com  Mon Apr 20 17:10:05 2009
From: wh7hg.hi at gmail.com (Michael Tauson)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:10:05 -1000
Subject: [Milsurplus] Questions about the Collins 18S and 618* equipment
Message-ID: <c34299fb0904201410w3870191blb297f2cc65a8461e@mail.gmail.com>

The 18S-* and 618* equipment has been on my mind a lot of late.  This
isn?t the first time they have fallen under my curious eye but it has
lead to some questions about them.

I have an 18S-4 but lack a schematic and information on the coils &
output network to move it into the ham bands.  (None of the crystals
that came with it were even close.)  If anyone has this information
and would be willing to share (plus any tune up hints), I would be
grateful.

Next, is the 618M-1 the same as a 618S-1/MC?  If not, what is it?

What (if any) modules are interchangeable between the 618S-1 &
RT-311/ARC-38, the 618S-1/MC & RT-594/ARC-38S and between the two
groups?  Also, does anyone know of a way to make the SSB versions
operate on LSB?

The same question exists between the various versions of the 618T and
the military versions thereof.  Also, was there any restrictions on
the sets that wouldn?t allow them to operate in CW or data mode or was
that simply a function of the control head?

And finally, is there any way to make the 618S and 618T series
equipment able to tune between the 1 KCs divisions (like the
RT-662/GRC-106) or is that a near impossible can of worms?

Thank you.

Best regards,

Michael, WH7HG

From wh7hg.hi at gmail.com  Mon Apr 20 17:20:31 2009
From: wh7hg.hi at gmail.com (Michael Tauson)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:20:31 -1000
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCS-51
Message-ID: <c34299fb0904201420v6859e6f4wc91aeca92ada581a@mail.gmail.com>

The recent discussion regarding the P-51's equipment caught my
interest as both an ex-pilot and ground instructor with a love of
navigation of all sorts.  After doing some reading, I learned that the
SCS-51 didn't come into service under that designation until 1945.
>From what I've read, it was called the RC-103 until then but I can't
find anything to lock down when it or any of the components thereof
first appeared in the field.  Any thoughts on this would be greatly
appreciated.

BEst regards,

Michael, WH7HG

From kk5f at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 20 18:09:46 2009
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:09:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Questions about the Collins 18S and 618* equipment
Message-ID: <16869780.1240265386840.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Michael wrote:

>I have an 18S-4 but lack a schematic and information on the coils &
>output network to move it into the ham bands.  (None of the crystals
>that came with it were even close.)

The military version of the 18S-4 is the RT-380/AR, part of AN/ARC-59.
Somewhere I have a manual, but it may be a while before I can find it
since most of my manual collection is still packed up after a move I
made last year.

>Next, is the 618M-1 the same as a 618S-1/MC?

No, the 618M is a VHF-AM aviation-band unit, introduced in the 1960s, IIRC.
I'd bet some are still flying, just like the contemporary 618T HF set.

>What (if any) modules are interchangeable between the 618S-1 &
>RT-311/ARC-38, the 618S-1/MC & RT-594/ARC-38S and between the two
>groups?

No doubt some modules are common in these four units.  There are many
differences between the contemporary USAF 618S-1 and the USN RT-311/ARC-38,
but the major one is the use of 144 crystal channels in the 618S-1 versus
the use of a Stabilized Master Oscillator (SMO, O-215/ARC-38) to generate
frequency in the RT-311.  The USAF's AM crystal-controlled 618S-1 was
modified by RCA to the Collins/RCA 618S-1/MC, which provided USB and
incrementally tuned operating frequency.  The USN's already incrementally
tuned AM RT-311/ARC-38 was likewise modified by RCA to create the USB 
Collins/RCA RT-594/ARC-38A.  All four of these variants have significant
differences between them, but also many similarities.

I made an error a few weeks ago when I said that the Collins/RCA 618S-1/MC can
be tuned by a direct dial-up of the desired frequency on the CSC-1 control
panel.  I was incorrect.  Even though the CSC-1 has four frequency select
switches, the positions are alphabetic, not numerical.  One must use a
table to find the four characters that must be dialed in for the desired
frequency.  A pain, akin to the design of the RT-311 and RT-594, but somewhat
different too.

>The same question exists between the various versions of the 618T and
>the military versions thereof.  Also, was there any restrictions on
>the sets that wouldn?t allow them to operate in CW or data mode or was
>that simply a function of the control head?

The military version of the 618T-2 (400 Hz power) is the RT-695/ARC-94.
The military version of the 618T-3 (28 vdc power) is the RT-698/ARC-102.
There are also several other variants, such as the AN/ARC-105.

At least as far as the AN/ARC-94 and -102 go, they both used the
C-3940/ARC-94 control head that allowed full mode selection capability.

The 618T-series has my vote for the best airborne MF/HF set of all time.
I just wish I could find a PP-3702/ARC-102 mounting rack and inverter
for my set.

Mike / KK5F

From mmab at cox.net  Mon Apr 20 18:18:36 2009
From: mmab at cox.net (Michael Bittner)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:18:36 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCS-51
References: <c34299fb0904201420v6859e6f4wc91aeca92ada581a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <696A2B4FC7DD40B7A5AB370F4A2740F4@michaelrozaa0r>

Ken Grayson's column in CQ for October '59, says this receiver is the same 
as the BC-733 aircraft localizer receiver.
I copied the above from my article in the October 2008 issue of Electric 
Radio Magazine.

Mike W6MAB


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Subject: [Milsurplus] SCS-51


> The recent discussion regarding the P-51's equipment caught my
> interest as both an ex-pilot and ground instructor with a love of
> navigation of all sorts.  After doing some reading, I learned that the
> SCS-51 didn't come into service under that designation until 1945.
>>From what I've read, it was called the RC-103 until then but I can't
> find anything to lock down when it or any of the components thereof
> first appeared in the field.  Any thoughts on this would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> BEst regards,
>
> Michael, WH7HG
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From kk5f at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 20 18:25:32 2009
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:25:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCS-51
Message-ID: <16961659.1240266332216.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Michael wrote:

>the SCS-51 didn't come into service under that designation until 1945.

The SCS-51, AFAIK, refers to the complete ILS system, both the stuff on
the ground and the stuff flying.

>From what I've read, it was called the RC-103

The RC-103-A was *only* the VHF localizer receiver, and it was deployed before
the glide-slope system was available.  I have an early RC-103 manual that
simply shows the BC-733 receiver output being sent only to the horizontal
travel needle on the I-101 indicator.  The vertical travel needle is 
shown as disconnected and for later use.  The BC-732 control box controlled
only the BC-733, which was a six-channel set.

Before war's end, the R-89/ARN-5A three-channel UHF glide slope receiver
was available to input to the vertical travel needle on the I-101.  The
existing BC-732 control was now used to select the which of the three
glide slope channels to use, in addition to which of the six localizer
channels to use.

Except for channel assignments, it's the same ILS used today.  Amazing!
The SCS-51 is a far better ILS than the one that the USN tried to use, the
old pre-war model ZA and ZA-1 (Air-Track) ILS.  I believe the USN abandoned
the ZA well before war's end.  Good thing!

Mike / KK5F

From jjhaggerty01 at excite.com  Mon Apr 20 20:29:26 2009
From: jjhaggerty01 at excite.com (jjhaggerty01.excite)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:29:26 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Milsurplus Digest, Vol 60, Issue 27 (ATF Use of HF)
Message-ID: <20090420202926.2668@web005.roc2.bluetie.com>

ATF/FBI/DEA/DOJ were using KY-65 Voice Security Gear (OPEN SOURCE INFORMATION) years ago. The DOJ agencies have a fairly robust communcations support group(s). As to the KY-65 I saw one such device was on display in the little No Such Agency Museum when I visited Ft. Meade on unrelated business in the Mid 90's. I never saw or used one during my time in the Army serving as a HF-RATT Opr but knew such mythical things exsited. The only goodies I ever saw or got to play with were Angry 106's, unnamed Harris systems, or PRC-70's. They may have been using the KY-65 with AN/GRC-106 HF gear. DOJ, etc. had and still has a national HF backbone system. Though the equipment is very old now and I doubt it is still in use by the above federal agencies you never know? In the case of the KY-65, well the thing is huge! Given the size of the equipment, and that is is 60's vintage it is most lilely been replaced by SATCOM, Internet Protocal/Trunkated Wireless, and ALE/WINLINK type secured systems. Several National Guard and Army Reserve units have deployed with Angry 106's, Angry 122E/142E systems and used them with good results in the Big Sandbox. The newer high tech software defined radio systems every one pines for does not seem to do very well in the real world. Older systems such as the IHFR's based on the RT-1209/PRC-104 also do very well. I have never heard what type of the actual HF systems DOJ was using when I worked for Uncle Sam. Given today's world that is just fine with me. I have a PRC-104 with a PRC-74 tunable antenna,etc. for the real world/QRP pedestrian operations. I think it is a great radio system to use for HF backbacking if I ever get around to that great adventure.

 73,
John




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From kk5f at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 20 22:09:09 2009
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:09:09 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Milsurplus Digest, Vol 60, Issue 27 (ATF Use of HF)
Message-ID: <6466809.1240279749232.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

John wrote:

>I have a PRC-104 with a PRC-74 tunable antenna,etc. for the real world/QRP
>pedestrian operations.

I'd put my money on something more modern, like a commercial Yaesu FT-817, but
even that small set is a battery power hog.

If you go to YouTube and search for "goathiker" you'll find some very interesting
trips taken by NOTU and his goats, Rooster and Peanut, for some QRP ops out in
the mountains.  Example:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHgVYVkW25w
He uses an FT-817 power hog, but he's got the goats to do the hauling.  Even they
would balk at a long trip with an AN/PRC-104 and batteries, I think.

>I think it is a great radio system to use for HF backbacking if I ever get
>around to that great adventure.

Using a AN/PRC-104 sounds more like day hiking rather than backpacking.  When
packing for a few days out on the trail, every ounce of extra weight quickly
begins to hurt.  My backpacking HF rigs for tha past decade have been modern
purpose-designed QRP rigs, my favorite being the Elecraft K1 four-band CW-only
battery friendly rig.  Another candidate is the Elecraft KX1.  You can back pack
these and their power source without breaking your back.  A dipole weighs much less
than the PRC-74 whip, and is on the order of at least **30 dB** better in performance
on both transmit and receive.

I like all the military sets (especially the Transworld PRC1099), but usually military
technology lags commercial state of the art until you get into the really specialized
stuff.

Mike / KK5F

From WA5CAB at cs.com  Mon Apr 20 22:13:52 2009
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB at cs.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:13:52 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] Nunavut
Message-ID: <d44.444dabba.371e85e0@cs.com>

This is only peripherally radio related (someone claiming to live there 
bought something from me) but in Canada does anyone know what or where "Nunavut 
" is?  Abbreviated "NU" and in an address in the position where the 
Province would be.  

Robert Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480

From k7dfw at clatskanie.com  Mon Apr 20 22:23:33 2009
From: k7dfw at clatskanie.com (ROLYNN PRECHTL  K7DFW)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 19:23:33 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Nunavut
References: <d44.444dabba.371e85e0@cs.com>
Message-ID: <005a01c9c228$2ee4d980$e8eef204@hppav>






<http://www.educationcanada.com/facts/index.phtml?sid=nu&lang=eng>

From nerd at verizon.net  Mon Apr 20 22:23:48 2009
From: nerd at verizon.net (Peter Gottlieb)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:23:48 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Milsurplus Digest, Vol 60, Issue 27 (ATF Use of HF)
In-Reply-To: <6466809.1240279749232.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <6466809.1240279749232.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <49ED2E34.8050802@verizon.net>

I have a PRC-104 which I have carried hiking and yes it is a brick.  I 
use a dipole made from #26 insulated stranded copperweld, lightweight 
thin teflon coax, and paracord to tie to trees.  I use a locally 
obtained rock to throw lines over trees.  For power I made up a pack 
with 4.4 AH NiMH cells in 2 strings to get 8.8 AH.  This lasts a very 
long time, and I have a 12 volt foldable solar panel to recharge it.  I 
made a little inverter which takes the 12 to recharge the 28 volt pack, 
making provisions to let the solar panel sit at max power output as much 
as possible.  A little SMPS boost converter with a good FET and inductor 
will get around 95% efficiency without much work.  So when there is sun 
I can charge (or reduce discharge!).  Get some altitude with a dipole 
and the thing works fantastic.  The PRC-104 can easily operate in rain, 
snow, or wherever I can without worry.  I would love to have the A 
version with LCD and channel memories but hey, I like the thing despite 
its weight.  Oh yeah, the dipole is cut for 80 meters and the internal 
tuner seems fine everywhere I've tried it.

Mike Morrow wrote:
> John wrote:
>
>   
>> I have a PRC-104 with a PRC-74 tunable antenna,etc. for the real world/QRP
>> pedestrian operations.
>>     
>
> I'd put my money on something more modern, like a commercial Yaesu FT-817, but
> even that small set is a battery power hog.
>
> If you go to YouTube and search for "goathiker" you'll find some very interesting
> trips taken by NOTU and his goats, Rooster and Peanut, for some QRP ops out in
> the mountains.  Example:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHgVYVkW25w
> He uses an FT-817 power hog, but he's got the goats to do the hauling.  Even they
> would balk at a long trip with an AN/PRC-104 and batteries, I think.
>
>   
>> I think it is a great radio system to use for HF backbacking if I ever get
>> around to that great adventure.
>>     
>
> Using a AN/PRC-104 sounds more like day hiking rather than backpacking.  When
> packing for a few days out on the trail, every ounce of extra weight quickly
> begins to hurt.  My backpacking HF rigs for tha past decade have been modern
> purpose-designed QRP rigs, my favorite being the Elecraft K1 four-band CW-only
> battery friendly rig.  Another candidate is the Elecraft KX1.  You can back pack
> these and their power source without breaking your back.  A dipole weighs much less
> than the PRC-74 whip, and is on the order of at least **30 dB** better in performance
> on both transmit and receive.
>
> I like all the military sets (especially the Transworld PRC1099), but usually military
> technology lags commercial state of the art until you get into the really specialized
> stuff.
>
> Mike / KK5F
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From tubetester at gmail.com  Mon Apr 20 22:32:44 2009
From: tubetester at gmail.com (Moe Fretz)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:32:44 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Nunavut
In-Reply-To: <005a01c9c228$2ee4d980$e8eef204@hppav>
References: <d44.444dabba.371e85e0@cs.com>
	<005a01c9c228$2ee4d980$e8eef204@hppav>
Message-ID: <4adf76740904201932k335bd8ffje7251c15375bf3d2@mail.gmail.com>

K7DFW beat me to it Robert :))

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:23 PM, ROLYNN PRECHTL K7DFW <k7dfw at clatskanie.com
> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
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From n2lxm at juno.com  Mon Apr 20 22:37:51 2009
From: n2lxm at juno.com (n2lxm at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:37:51 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Milsurplus Digest, Vol 60, Issue 27 (ATF Use of HF)
Message-ID: <20090420.223754.3512.0.n2lxm@juno.com>

I have been reading the mail on this subject tonight. I am in the final
stages of putting together a PRC-74C system. Have the radio, two battery(
one wet, one dry) boxes, dipole antenna, Mic, headset, handset, and key.
I hope to be able to do some pack portable this summer. all I need are
the batteries and some warm weather. Hope to here some you on the air.


                                Jeff N2LXM
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From kk5f at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 20 22:52:05 2009
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:52:05 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Questions about the Collins 18S and 618* equipment
Message-ID: <24347422.1240282326052.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I wrote:

>The military version of the 618T-2 (400 Hz power) is the RT-695/ARC-94.
>The military version of the 618T-3 (28 vdc power) is the RT-698/ARC-102.
>There are also several other variants, such as the AN/ARC-105.

That should have been "RT-698/ARC-94".  Oddly, the RT-698 was assigned
to the AN/ARC-94, 102, 119, and 120, all of which are based on the 618T-2
or -3.

Mike / KK5F

From n7rk at cox.net  Mon Apr 20 23:06:13 2009
From: n7rk at cox.net (David Hollander)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:06:13 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Nunavut
In-Reply-To: <d44.444dabba.371e85e0@cs.com>
References: <d44.444dabba.371e85e0@cs.com>
Message-ID: <49ED3825.6040108@cox.net>

It's near the north pole. You trying to reach Santa Claus?

-- 
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From kk5f at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 20 23:52:24 2009
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:52:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Nunavut
Message-ID: <27080433.1240285944955.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>...does anyone know what or where "Nunavut" is?

This is an interesting coincidence with the discussion of the Spilsbury SBX-11
radio set which doubtless saw much usage there.

Mike / KK5F

From bl_6000 at yahoo.com.au  Tue Apr 21 01:29:36 2009
From: bl_6000 at yahoo.com.au (Brad Latta)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:29:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] BC-1073-A
Message-ID: <575647.27715.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


I have just acquired a BC-1073-A, made by Belmont radio. Apparantly it is a wavemeter for the BC-1068 IFF receiver (150-210Mcs), part of the SCR-268 radar; according to the Gordon Army museum website. The manual is TM-11-1117, and I was wondering if I could obtain a copy somewhere,
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From kargo_cult at msn.com  Tue Apr 21 13:42:47 2009
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:42:47 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] ATT / ATF / FS Radio
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Marty, how many watts power did this little rig 
run? If no numbers, what was the final tube 
and a guess at the battery voltage? Just trying
to get an idea of the range. What does it use
for antenna matching, what kind of adjustable
coil does it have? 
Now back to Forest Service radios being 
advanced: i haven't seen it, and i would ask:
WHICH Forest Service radios pre-war, or even
post war, were advanced? 
Probably Oregon's Dept of Forestry would have
liked the ATT set, but it was probably more
expensive than Radio Specialties Company 
products, and besides, we like to throw 
business to in-state companies. ( Not totally
unusual, tho; i have seen Humble Co. radios
built in BC for the BC forestry. )  -Hue Miller 

From whitaker at pa.net  Tue Apr 21 07:48:24 2009
From: whitaker at pa.net (C. Whitaker)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 07:48:24 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] USFS Radios, again
References: <mailman.5516.1240234035.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<SNT109-W597D27DC241DCC937BC640E4760@phx.gbl>
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Hue, not to stir up the water, but in the late 30's the Civialian  Defence
people
used a VHF frequency just below 140 MHz.   An old-timer tells me they had
a  RTTY net centered on New York City, and covered out as far as North
and Central New Jersey.   I suspect 850 FSK.   That's what the commercial
stations were using.
73  Clete in South Central PA


From enrpnr at erols.com  Tue Apr 21 07:58:12 2009
From: enrpnr at erols.com (Ray Chase)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 07:58:12 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] BC-1073-A
In-Reply-To: <575647.27715.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <575647.27715.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <49EDB4D4.6030702@erols.com>

We have two of those at the Camp Evans, New Jersey, InfoAge 
Science-History-Learning Center (home of WWII Army radar development).  
The SCR 268 was the Army's first radar (Searchlight Radar) so we covet 
any pieces of it.  I have the TM for the IFF itself, TM 11-1118-C for 
the RC-148-C that is the IFF set itself.  We need the BC-1073-A TM so if 
you find a source, please let me know.  We have a fair amount of pieces 
of the SCR-268, always looking for more.
Thanks, Ray Chase

Brad Latta wrote:

>I have just acquired a BC-1073-A, made by Belmont radio. Apparantly it is a wavemeter for the BC-1068 IFF receiver (150-210Mcs), part of the SCR-268 radar; according to the Gordon Army museum website. The manual is TM-11-1117, and I was wondering if I could obtain a copy somewhere,
>                                                             Regards, Brad 
>
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From rafantini at salisbury.edu  Tue Apr 21 10:29:48 2009
From: rafantini at salisbury.edu (Ray Fantini)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:29:48 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Questions about the Collins 18S and 618*	equipment
In-Reply-To: <c34299fb0904201410w3870191blb297f2cc65a8461e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c34299fb0904201410w3870191blb297f2cc65a8461e@mail.gmail.com>
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Mr. Smith has much posted on the 18S-4 series radios, his web page is:
http://solo11.abac.com/zorroab1/ 
I have both 618S and ARC-38A  radios and have been using a 168S on the air now for a couple years. I did use the 144 channel crystal pack for a while but now have a PTO from a donor 38 that provides ability to tune the radio manually, lot of advantages to  QSY also it is amazing to watch the RF and IF slugs tune themselves as you change frequency. Maybe the only advantage of the crystal deck is the ability to watch the racks and rollers cycle when you change channels. Watching the radio work may be more fun than the QSO, have a ARC-55 that I want to get working next it has no possible use but lots of stuff that will be fun to watch.
I have just added a couple more 618S pictures to my web page at:
www.ka3ekh.net 
Think the next step is to do a video and post on YouTube.
Ray Fantini KA3EKH




From wf2u at ws19ops.com  Tue Apr 21 10:30:02 2009
From: wf2u at ws19ops.com (wf2u at ws19ops.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 09:30:02 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] ATT / ATF / FS Radio
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV3860C7FDC4E9621094F74E4770@phx.gbl>
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	<BAY109-DAV3860C7FDC4E9621094F74E4770@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20090421093002.lkb90t2dyc004wkg@webmail.opentransfer.com>

This thread reminds me that a few years ago I bought a nice looking,  
all original BC-312, which has a Forestry Service tag on it.

73, Meir WF2U
Landrum, SC


Quoting Hue Miller <kargo_cult at msn.com>:

............
> Now back to Forest Service radios being
> advanced: i haven't seen it, and i would ask:
> WHICH Forest Service radios pre-war, or even
> post war, were advanced?
> Probably Oregon's Dept of Forestry would have
> liked the ATT set, but it was probably more
> expensive than Radio Specialties Company
> products, and besides, we like to throw
> business to in-state companies. ( Not totally
> unusual, tho; i have seen Humble Co. radios
> built in BC for the BC forestry. )  -Hue Miller
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From radio at telus.net  Tue Apr 21 10:58:09 2009
From: radio at telus.net (Bruce MacMillan)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 07:58:09 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] ATT / ATF / FS Radio
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV3860C7FDC4E9621094F74E4770@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.5610.1240279754.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<BAY109-DAV3860C7FDC4E9621094F74E4770@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <49EDDF01.9060303@telus.net>

Hue Miller wrote:
> Probably Oregon's Dept of Forestry would have
> liked the ATT set, but it was probably more
> expensive than Radio Specialties Company 
> products, and besides, we like to throw 
> business to in-state companies. ( Not totally
> unusual, tho; i have seen Humble Co. radios
> built in BC for the BC forestry. )  -Hue Miller 

Here in BC small local companies were contracted to produce the radio 
equipment. Also used by our
forest service were VRL (Vancouver Radio Laboratories) and Spilsbury & 
Tindall. One common element
was that they were all low power (a few watts) and were AM. We did our 
own repairs though & had an extensive radio shop system.

Our former Provincial Police used CW when in the field. Here's a link to 
a photo of a corporal sending in his report.
http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/cgi-bin/www2i/.visual/img_med/dir_106/b_06150.gif

I don't recognize the radio & wonder if it is also "homebrew".

Bruce   ve7mt

From cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org  Tue Apr 21 11:01:25 2009
From: cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org (Marty Reynolds)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:01:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] ATT / ATF / FS Radio
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV3860C7FDC4E9621094F74E4770@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.5610.1240279754.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<BAY109-DAV3860C7FDC4E9621094F74E4770@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4793.24.30.81.88.1240326085.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>


> Marty, how many watts power did this little rig
> run? If no numbers, what was the final tube
> and a guess at the battery voltage? Just trying
> to get an idea of the range. What does it use
> for antenna matching, what kind of adjustable
> coil does it have?
> Now back to Forest Service radios being
> advanced: i haven't seen it, and i would ask:
>.....

Hue it uses 3 fist-sized 45V batteries & 1, 2, or 3
same-shaped 1.5v plug-in batteries.  Then there's 2 7.5V
C batteries.

TX seems to have 2 3A4s in paralledl & think maybe 5W in.
AM modulator another two 3A4s.

12' telescoping antenna has load-coil at bottom

And yesterday I forgot to mention the tube placement
diagram calls it "Packset 8907"

   Tnx

      Marty

From cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org  Tue Apr 21 11:15:12 2009
From: cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org (Marty Reynolds)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:15:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] USFS...CCC Radio Ops
In-Reply-To: <3836.24.30.81.88.1240238270.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>
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>
> Given the military-style organization of the CCC, it is logical that
> various forms of radio communications were utilized.  But there doesn't
> seem to be much information available on CCC radio systems, networks, and
> operations, and personnel.
>
> Mike / KK5F

Yo Mike I've a 1939(?) Radio News art'l on the subject.  I'll
copy & mail if u want

Of all mfgr.s, Clough Brengle built two of the TXen foto'd.  W4RON
at Charlotte has one of the types outa a Texas contact

   Marty


From telegrapher at att.net  Tue Apr 21 12:48:07 2009
From: telegrapher at att.net (telegrapher at att.net)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:48:07 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] wireless sets 19 for sale
Message-ID: <042120091648.686.49EDF8C70006439B000002AE22230682329B0A02D29B9B0EBF9D0A089F0E9D090A040A9B@att.net>



 Received this from a friend of mine up in Canada.  I'll forward any inquiries to him.

Larry
W0OGH


 FYI

Got an email from a fellow wireless collector in Alberta. He has three 19 sets for sale plus some other stuff.

here's his list:

1X Wireless Mk III Canadian made c/w power supply, crystal calibrator and variometer. This unit has the intercom circuit removed. 

1X Wireless Mk II U. S. made c/w headphones & mics, power supply, all cables and control boxes. The capacitor has been changed out with a modern one on this unit. The unit works as I am a HAM radio operator and have tested the unit. 

1X Wireless Mk II also U.S. made c/w power supply but without variometer. This unit is mounted on the hard to find base c/w original hold down straps and fasteners. I have not tested this unit but from the internals it looks good to go. 
I also have: 
2X 20' vertical antennas c/w guy ropes; 
2X Case Spare Valves c/w contents; 
1X Case Spare Parts c/w contents including key; 
1X Folding whip antenna c/w carry bag; 
1 extra modern 40 mFd. capacitor for p/s change out. 
Some extra cables, headphones. 

If anyone is interested let me know and I will forward the contact info.





Tell the whole story with photos, right from your Messenger window. Learn how!

From wf2u at ws19ops.com  Tue Apr 21 12:56:13 2009
From: wf2u at ws19ops.com (wf2u at ws19ops.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:56:13 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] wireless sets 19 for sale
In-Reply-To: <042120091648.686.49EDF8C70006439B000002AE22230682329B0A02D29B9B0EBF9D0A089F0E9D090A040A9B@att.net>
References: <042120091648.686.49EDF8C70006439B000002AE22230682329B0A02D29B9B0EBF9D0A089F0E9D090A040A9B@att.net>
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Larry,

I can forward this the the Wireless Set 19 mailing list I'm subsribed  
to. I just do not need another set  - I think  ;-)  as 4 is enough...

73, Meir WF2U
Landrum, SC

Quoting telegrapher at att.net:

>
>
>  Received this from a friend of mine up in Canada.  I'll forward any  
>  inquiries to him.
>
> Larry
> W0OGH
>
>
>  FYI
>
> Got an email from a fellow wireless collector in Alberta. He has   
> three 19 sets for sale plus some other stuff.
>
> here's his list:
>
> 1X Wireless Mk III Canadian made c/w power supply, crystal   
> calibrator and variometer. This unit has the intercom circuit removed.
>
> 1X Wireless Mk II U. S. made c/w headphones & mics, power supply,   
> all cables and control boxes. The capacitor has been changed out   
> with a modern one on this unit. The unit works as I am a HAM radio   
> operator and have tested the unit.
>
> 1X Wireless Mk II also U.S. made c/w power supply but without   
> variometer. This unit is mounted on the hard to find base c/w   
> original hold down straps and fasteners. I have not tested this unit  
>  but from the internals it looks good to go.
> I also have:
> 2X 20' vertical antennas c/w guy ropes;
> 2X Case Spare Valves c/w contents;
> 1X Case Spare Parts c/w contents including key;
> 1X Folding whip antenna c/w carry bag;
> 1 extra modern 40 mFd. capacitor for p/s change out.
> Some extra cables, headphones.
>
> If anyone is interested let me know and I will forward the contact info.
>
>
>
>
>
> Tell the whole story with photos, right from your Messenger window.   
> Learn how!
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From boeing377 at aol.com  Tue Apr 21 13:23:51 2009
From: boeing377 at aol.com (boeing377 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:23:51 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] C 133 final flight webpage, working 618M, 618T,
 APN 59 and other boatanchor avionics pictured.
Message-ID: <8CB90BD12D16CE5-484-15F7@WEBMAIL-DF20.sysops.aol.com>

http://boeing377.googlepages.com/c133

comments and corrections most welcome.

73
Mark
AF6IM

From telegrapher at att.net  Tue Apr 21 18:20:38 2009
From: telegrapher at att.net (telegrapher at att.net)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:20:38 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] A few things to sell
Message-ID: <042120092220.26855.49EE46B60000C51C000068E722230680329B0A02D29B9B0EBF9D0A089F0E9D090A040A9B@att.net>

T.O. 08-10-26, Instruction book for Test set I-56A, Nov. 7, 1939.  THis is a very nice photocopy in a binder.  $10

Airplane Commanders Manual, Fourth Air Force, 15 Mar 1945.  Original 4 X 6 in size.  $15

FM 21-25, WAR Dept. Field manual, Elementry Map and Aerial Photograph Reading, August 1944.  Original and very nice $13

TM 1-470, WAR Dept. Technical Manual, Aircraft Radio Shop Practice.  May 1, 1942.  Very good $18

TM 1-440, WAR Dept. Technical Manual.  Parachutes, Aircraft Fabrics and clothing.  Jan 1941 with changes 1 & 2.  Very good. $10

TM 1-406, WAR Dept. Technical Manual, Aircraft Electrical Systems, April 15, 1942.  I have two of these.  One is excellent and the other has the last 4 of the owners SN stamped on it and shows wear.  Excellent $12

TM 1-411, WAR Dept. Technical Manual, Aircraft Woodwork.  Excellent $12

TM 1-413, WAR Dept. Technical Manual Aircraft Instruments, Feb. 2, 1942.  Excellent $15

H.O. No. 216, Aircraft Navigation Manual.  This is a hardback covered book, First edition 1941 in very good condx.  $20

Aeronautical Charts:
------------------------

Denver Sectional Chart T-4, Jan 20, 1944.  $10

Milwaukee Sectional Chart V-7, April 20, 1944. $10

Minot Sectional Chart Y-5, Nov. 30, 1944.  $10

Lewiston Sectional Chart W-10, Dec. 16, 1943.  $10

Reno Sectional Chart T-2,  May 18, 1944.  $10

Salt Lake City Sectional Chart U-3,  Sept. 7, 1944.  $10

Chicago Sectional Chart U-7, Oct. 19, 1944.  $10

Regional Aeronautical Chart 12M, Aug. 26, 1943.  Covers 10 sectional charts.  $15

El Paso Sectional Chart P-4, Dec. 17, 1942.  $10
Mobile Sectional Chart P-7, Dec. 17, 1942.  This one has "467th Bombardment Squadron (H)" stamped on it.  $10

Little Rock Sectional Chart R-6, March 25, 1943.  $10

Del Rio Sectional Chart O-4, Dec. 30, 1943.  $10

Cheyenne Sectional Chart U-4, Feb. 4, 1943.  $10

Elko Sectional Chart U-2, October 29, 1942.  $10

Prescott Regional Chart R-3, Sept. 3, 1943. $10

Phoenix Sectional Chart Q-3, Aug. 17, 1944.  No freeways marked on this one!!! $10

I have DF charts for the US, all 5 of them, 21DF thru 26 DF, dates from 1942, 1943 and 1944.  These show all the DF stations and other pertinent info for each station in effect showing it's own compass rose.  I am short 1 map from having 2 complete sets of these.  $15 per chart or  $150 for all 12.

1 ea 1968 Oregon Aeronautical chart.  $4

And if you really want charts, i have a complete set of all the charts, sectional, regional etc for the US during the war.  Plus plenty of extras.  $10 per item.  these are all original issues.

Postage is extra from 85233.

Larry
W0OGH


From jfor at quik.com  Tue Apr 21 18:59:01 2009
From: jfor at quik.com (J. Forster)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:59:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] [armyradios] FW: [UHF-Satcom] More on Satcom piracy
In-Reply-To: <1912524027.1603928.1240353905241.JavaMail.root@vms181.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <1912524027.1603928.1240353905241.JavaMail.root@vms181.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <2160.12.6.201.140.1240354741.squirrel@pop.quik.com>

>
>
>       These guys are quite a bit smarter than I am when it comes to
> satcom.  I wish I knew how to do this (even though I wouldn't do
> so)!
>
>
> Apr 21, 2009 09:46:35 PM, armyradios at yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
>
>    FYI   Regards,   Glen Closson
>    From: UHF-Satcom at yahoogroups.com  [mailto:UHF-Satcom at yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of  allanstern at aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 2:35  PM
> To: RadioMonitors at yahoogroups.com; MilRadioComms at yahoogroups.com;
> FloridaMilcom at yahoogroups.com; FloridaComms at yahoogroups.com;
> SpaceCoastComms at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [UHF-Satcom] More on Satcom  piracy
>
>   http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2009/04/fleetcom
>
> CAMPINAS, Brazil ?? On the night of March 8, cruising 22,000 miles above
> the
> Earth, USN comms satellite FLTSAT-8 suddenly erupted with illicit
> activity. Jubilant voices and anthems crowded the channel on a junkyard's
> worth  of homemade gear from across vast and silent stretches of the
> Amazon: Ronaldo, a  Brazilian soccer idol, had just scored his first goal
> with the Corinthians.
>
> It was a party that won't soon be forgotten. Ten days later,  Brazilian
> Federal Police swooped in on 39 suspects in six states in the  largest
> crackdown to date on a growing problem here: illegal hijacking of US
> military satellite transponders.
>
> "This had been happening for more than  five years," says Celso Campos, of
> the Brazilian Federal Police. "Since the  communication channel was open,
> not
> encrypted, lots of people used it to talk  to each other."
>
> The practice is so entrenched, and the knowledge and  tools so widely
> available, few believe the campaign to stamp it out will be  quick or
> easy.
>
> Much of this country's geography is remote, and beyond  the reach of
> cellphone coverage, making American satellites an ideal, if  illegal,
> communications option. The problem goes back more than a decade, to the
> mid-1990s, when Brazilian radio technicians discovered they could jump on
> the  UHF freqs dedicated to satellites in the Navy's Fleet Satellite Comm
> system, or  FLTSATCOM. They've been at it ever since.
> Truck drivers love the birds because they provide better range and  sound
> than ham radios. Rogue loggers in the Amazon use the satellites to
> transmit
> coded warnings when authorities threaten to close in. Drug dealers  and
> organized criminal factions use them to coordinate operations.
>
> Today, the satellites, which pirates called "Bolinha" or "little ball,"
> are
> a national phenomenon.
>
> "It's impossible not to find equipment  like this when we catch an
> organized
> crime gang," says a police officer  involved in last month's action.
>
> The crackdown, called "Operation  Satellite," was Brazil's first
> large-scale
> enforcement against the problem.  Police followed coordinates provided by
> the
> US Dept of Defense and confirmed  by Anatel, Brazil's FCC. Among those
> charged were university professors,  electricians, truckers and farmers,
> the police say. The suspects face up to four  years and jail, but are more
> likely to be fined if convicted.
>
> First  lofted into orbit in the 1970s, the FLTSATCOM bird was at the time
> a
> major  advance in military communications. Their 23 channels were used by
> every  branch of the US armed forces and the White House for encrypted
> data
> and  voice, typically from portable ground units that could be quickly
> unpacked  and put to use on the battlefield.
>
> As the original FLTSAT constellation  of four satellites fell out of
> service,
> the Navy launched a more advanced UFO  satellite (for Ultra High Frequency
> Follow-On) to replace them. Today, there  are two FLTSAT and eight UFO
> birds
> in geosynchronous orbit. Navy contractors  are working on a
> next-generation
> system called Mobile User Objective System  beginning in September 2009.
>
> Until then, the military is still using  aging FLTSAT and UFO satellites
> ??
> and so are a lot of Brazilians. While the  technology on the transponders
> still dates from the 1970s, radio sets back on  Earth have only improved
> and
> plummeted in cost ?? opening a cheap, efficient  and illegal backdoor.
>
> To use the satellite, pirates typically take an  ordinary ham radio
> transmitter, which operates in the 144- to 148-MHZ range,  and add a
> frequency doubler cobbled from coils and a varactor diode. That  lets the
> radio stretch into the lower end of FLTSATCOM's 292- to 317-MHz  uplink
> range. All the gear can be bought near any truck stop for less than  $500.
> Ads on specialized websites offer to perform the conversion for less  than
> $100. Taught the ropes, even rough electricians can make Bolinha-ware.
>
> "I saw it more than once in truck repair shops," says amateur radio
> operator
> Adinei Brochi (PY2ADN) "Nearly illiterate men rigged a radio in less  than
> one minute, rolling wire on a coil."
>
> Brochi, who assembled his  first radio set from spare parts at 12, has
> been
> tracking the     Brazilian
> satellite hacking problem (.pdf) for years.
>
> Brochi says the  Pentagon's concerns are obvious.
>
> "If a soldier is shot in an ambush, the  first thing he will think of
> doing
> will be to send a help request over the  radio," observes Brochi. "What if
> he's trying to call for help and two  truckers are discussing soccer? In
> an
> emergency, that soldier won't be able  to remember quickly how to change
> the
> radio programming to look for a  frequency that's not saturated."
>
> When real criminals use these  frequencies, it's easy to tell they're
> hiding
> something, but it's nearly  impossible to know what it is. In one
> intercepted
> conversation    posted to
> YouTube, a  man alerts a friend that he should watch out, because things
> are
> getting  "crispy" and "strong winds" are on their way.
>
> Sometimes loggers refer to  the approach of authorities by saying, "Santa
> Claus is coming," says Brochi.
>
> When the user's location is stable, the signal can be triangulated.
> That's
> how the DoD got the coordinates to feed Brazilian authorities in  March's
> raids.
>
> While Brazil may be the world capital of FLTSATCOM  hijacking, there have
> been cases in other countries ?? even in the United  States. In February
> of
> last year, FCC investigators used a mobile  direction-finding vehicle to
> trace rogue transmissions to a Brazilian  immigrant in New Jersey. When
> the
> investigators inspected his radio gear,  they found a transceiver
> programmed
> to a FLTSAT frequency, connected to an  antenna in the back of his house.
> Joaquim Barbosa was hit with a $20,000  fine.
>
> A technician with Anatel, speaking on condition of anonymity, says  the
> chief
> problem with ending the satellite abuse in this country is that  U.S. and
> Brazilian authorities simply waited too long to start. Thousands of  users
> are believed to have the know-how to use the system. After a bust,  the
> airwaves always go quiet for a while, but the hijackers always return.
>
> One week after the "Operation Satellite," Brochi met with Wired.com at  a
> gathering of amateur radio enthusiasts in a bucolic square in  Campinas,
> about 60 miles north of Sao Paulo. Brochi switches on his UHF  receiver
> and
> scans through the satellite frequencies.
>
> It's relatively  quiet now on the satellite underground, except for the
> static-like sound of  encrypted military traffic. But eventually, a lone
> creaky voice cuts through.  It's a man in Porto Velho, the capital of
> Rond??nia, a day's drive north into the  upper Amazon basin. He's making
> small talk with a friend in Portuguese. The  satellite pirates are
> creeping back on the air.
>
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From jfor at quik.com  Tue Apr 21 19:02:23 2009
From: jfor at quik.com (J. Forster)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:02:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] AN/ARC-50
In-Reply-To: <042120092220.26855.49EE46B60000C51C000068E722230680329B0A02D29B9B0EBF
	9D0A089F0E9D090A040A9B@att.net>
References: <042120092220.26855.49EE46B60000C51C000068E722230680329B0A02D29B9B0EBF9D0A089F0E9D090A040A9B@att.net>
Message-ID: <2171.12.6.201.140.1240354943.squirrel@pop.quik.com>

I saw an AN/ARC-50 on Sunday and it looks interesting, but I'm unable to
find almost any info on it.

Anyone got any leads?

-John


From TELEGRAPHER at att.net  Tue Apr 21 19:19:36 2009
From: TELEGRAPHER at att.net (TELEGRAPHER at att.net)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:19:36 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] FS items
Message-ID: <042120092319.25453.49EE5487000EEB0A0000636D22230680329B0A02D29B9B0EBFADBAB8AFBEADB9BAB4BAAB@att.net>

Navy Dept. OP-33-1-FHC, P11-1(2) Naval Aviation Training Bulletin NO. 182, 4 May 1944, 3-A-2 Control box for the 3-A-2 trainers which were part of the Infra-red scorer,Device 3-A-20 and the Trace Projection Trainer Device 3-C-25.  $2

Navy Dept. OP-33-1-LK P11-1(2)Naval Aviation Training Division Bulletin NO. 110, October 1943.  Pilots reflector Sight Mod 2.  $2

Original schematic for the Radio Receiver R-9A/APN-4 (Modification III and 2 schematics for the ID-6A/APN-4 (Modification III)  $5

TM11-300 Frequency Meter sets.  Like new condition $12

FL-8 Filter facts. I've got 3 sets of this photocopied information.  $3 ea.

ARMY Air Forces Training Film and Film Strip Catalog, 5 May 1943.  This is a thick catalog in excellent condx $20

Army Air FOrces Training Film and Film Strip Catalog Third Edition, December 1943.  Very good for $20

Army AIr Forces Synthetic Devices Catalog Prepared byt the Training Aids Div. 1943.  $15

San Bernadino AIr Service Command Film Library Catalog, Jan 1, 1944.  All typewriter print on pages.  $12

Ham Conversions with schematic for conversion of the Bendix TQ-12 Transmitter.  $5

AN 08-30ARC9-2, 18 November 1944.  Two identical front pages but yet the numbering of the pages inside and the number of pages is different.  $15

NAVAER 16-45-535, Instruction Sheet Test Rack for AN/ARR-15, 1 Dec. 1952.  $5

Navy AN 16-30ARR15-3/USAF T.O. 12R2-2ARR15-2, Radio Sets AN/ARR-15 and An/ARR-15A, 1 Dec, 1945, Rev. 15 june 1958.  Photocopies and growing dimmer.  Rescue me please!  $10 for both.

TM 11-6625-606-15, Panoramic SPetrum ANalyzer Model SPA-1, May 1966.  $8

NAVSHIPS 92134(A), Instructions Book for R.F. Signal Generator Set AN/URM-25D.  Like new and unused it appears for $18

I have a 2nd copy of this one also but it's a photocopy.  very good work, just not originals.  $10

Supplement to technical Manual Radio Set AN/TRC-1, Radio Terminal Set AN/TRC-3, Radio Relay Set AN/TRC-4 and Amplifier Equipment AN/TRA-1.  11 Dec 1944.  Like new condx for $8

Technical Order 16-30TRC-1, Modification to Improve Transmission Characteristics in the AN/TRC-1 thru AN/TRC4C. 5 July 1945 for $3

Technical Order NO. 16-35CM3-22, 15 August 1945, Modification to Prevent false indications of PDI meter on CM-3/APN-3.  $1
Technical Order NO. 16-35CM3-21, 28 Mar 1945, Modification of Comparator to Correct Reversed Indicator Sensing-CM-3/APN-3.  $1

Technical Order NO. 16-35AS30-21, 2 March 1945.  Modification of Antenna Pattern Distortion AS-30/CPA-1.  $1

Technical Order NO 16-40BC1016-21, 26 April 1945.  Modification to Prevent Damage to Pen-Recorder BC-1016.  $1

Technical Order NO 16-35RF9-2, 5 July 1945.  Preliminary Instructions with Price List for Modulator Adaptor RF-9/UPT Navships 900, 244-1B.  $1

NAVAER 16-45-536, Instruction sheet Test Rack (NAF 602907-1) for Radio Set AN/APN-4, 1 Oct 1953.  $5

Technical Order NO 16-35R65-21 10 july 1945, Correction of Improper Tube Socket Identification R-65/APN-9.  $1

Technical Order NO 16-35AS154-21 28 Dec 1945, Lubrication of Elevation Potentiometer Shaft Support Bearing AS-154/APS-10 and
AS-154A/APS-10.  $1

technical Order NO 16-35AS167-21 1 May 1045, Installation of positive Grounding COnnection for Camera Switch AS-167/APQ-7  $1

Technical Order NO 16-35AS167-22 16 May 1945, Installation of Positive Ground Connection for ANtenna Drive Motor --AS-167/APQ-7.  $1

Technical Order NO 16-35ID-1 30 july 1945, Modification to eliminate High Voltage fromS hells of Tubes 6L6--ID-56/APQ-7 and ID-57/APQ-7.  $1

Technical Order NO 16-35CG-1 1 March 1946, Replacement of Nondirectional Coupler with Unidirectional Type CG-98/APQ-13 and CG-115/APQ-13.  $1

Technical Order NO 16-35AS-1 30 june 1945, Replacement of Rotary Tilt Joing --AS-54()/APQ-13, AS-55 ()/APQ-13.  $1

Postage is extra from 85233.  Please include your mailing address when buying.  helps and keeps repeat comms down.

Larry
W0OGH


From spike.dennis at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 21 19:21:34 2009
From: spike.dennis at yahoo.com (Spike Dennis)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:21:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] (no subject)
Message-ID: <943390.24841.qm@web45701.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


Midwest Green Radio net. Wednesday night 21:00 central 3996usb. Black, grey, & calico radios also welcome. Nether do you need to be located in the midwest.

No net control, just an informal round table. We run for one hour then turn it over to the West Coast guys. If you don't hear anybody, give a call.

KB0SFP
Monitor(all USB):
3996, 5403.5, 7296, 14342.5, 18157.5


      


From bsugarberg at core.com  Tue Apr 21 20:47:32 2009
From: bsugarberg at core.com (Bruce)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:47:32 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] More Manuals For Sale
Message-ID: <49EE6924.4050803@core.com>

Hello,

I have the following manuals for sale:

TM 11-665 CW AND AM TRANSMITTERS AND RECEIVERS. September 1952. $20.00.

TM 11-666 ANTENNAS AND RADIO PROPAGATION. February 1953.  $20.00.

TM 11-667 HIGHER FREQUENCY TECHNIQUES (Excluding Microwaves).
Covers radio communications in the 30 mc to 1000 mc frequency
range.  October 1952.  $15.00.

TM 11-668 FM TRANSMITTERS AND RECEIVERS.  September 1952.  $20.00.

TM 11-669 TRANSIENTS AND WAVEFORMS.  November 1951.  $10.00.
Analysis of nonsinusoidal waveforms, Transient response,
Response of R-L circuit, Response of R-C circuit, Response
of R-L-C circuit, Application of R-l and R-C circuits,
Frequency analysis of waveforms.

TM 11-678 FUNDAMENTALS OF TELEPHONY.  March 1953.  $20.00.

TM 11-684 PRINCIPLES AND APPLICATIONS OF MATHEMATICS FOR COMMUNICATIONS-
ELECTRONICS.  October 1961.  $10.00.

TM 11-685 FUNDAMENTALS OF SINGLE-SIDEBAND COMMUNICATION. January 1961. $20.00.

TM 11-4000 TROUBLESHOOTING AND REPAIR OF RADIO EQUIPMENT. April 1958.
The best book ever on the subject.  The R-390A is used as a receiver
servicing example, with two large fold-out schematics. $25.00.

TM 11-4700 ELECTRICAL INDICATING AND MEASURING INSTRUMENTS - Repair
Instructions.  Has a chapter on the repair and calibration of meter
movements.  Has schematics and info on: TS-363/U Voltmeter, I-50
Voltammeter, TS-26/TSM Multimeter, TS-297 Multimeter, TS-352/U
Multimeter, TS-505 Multimeter, I-177 and I-177A Tube Tester, I-157-A
Tube Tester, ZM-3/U Capacity Analyzer, TS-268 Crystal Rectifier Test Set,
TS-585A Output Meter, I-199 and I-199-A Test Set.  May 1952.  $25.00.

TM 11-600-2 COMMUNICATIONS-ELECTRONICS FUNDAMENTALS SEMICONDUCTOR THEORY
AND CIRCUITS.  December 1970.  $10.00.

FM 11-60 BASIC PRINCIPLES - DIRECT CURRENT.   November 1982.  $10.00.

FM 11-63 ELECTRONIC TUBE THEORY AND CIRCUITS. September 1983. $20.00.

FM 11-65 HIGH FREQUENCY RADIO COMMUNICATIONS. October 1978.   $20.00.
Covers radio communications in the 2 mc to 30 mc frequency range.

FM 11-372-6 OUTSIDE PLANT CABLE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR. October 1979. $20.00.

AR 750-51 MAINTENANCE ASSISTANCE AND INSTRUCTION TEAM (MAIT) PROGRAM.
One page has a sample flyer which is a real hoot: "Maintenance SHAKY?
Equipment falling APART?  PAPERWORK got you DOWN?  You need HELP!!
Call MAIT.  We'll travel anytime, anywhere!"  1 May 1980.  $10.00.

SB 11-206 PERSONNEL DOSIMETRY SUPPLY AND SERVICE FOR TECHNICAL IONIZING
RADIATION EXPOSURE CONTROL.  31 May 1983.  $5.00.

SB 11-611 REQUISITIONING OF ACCESSORIES FOR USE IN CALIBRATION OF
ELECTRONIC TEST EQUIPMENT.  Lists 33 test leads, rf cables, and
connector adapters.  Each listing contains the Federal Stock Number
(FSN), a description, and a photograph of the item. 8 November 1967. $10.00.

U.S. Army Signal School Fort Monmouth N. J. MON-2966-56
RADIO AND RADAR TERMS SIMPLIFIED - SSTS 51200.  1956.  $10.00.

TM 11-235 RADIO SETS SCR-536-A, -B, -C, -D, -E, -F.
The BC-611 handie-talkie.  May 1945.  $25.00.

TM 11-281 RADIO SETS SCR-399-A & SCR-499-A.  April 17, 1943.
"This Technical Manual published by The Hallicrafters Company."
The BC-610 transmitter.  $35.00.

TM 11-600 RADIO SETS SCR-508-(*), SCR-528-(*), SCR-538-(*).
The BC-603 receiver and BC-604 transmitter.  March 25, 1943.
With C1 19 January 1944.  $25.00.

TM 11-636 RADIO SET AN/TRC-10.  14 March 1945  $25.00.
Receiver-Transmitter RT-46.  2-12 mc.  20 watt CW.

NAVSHIPS 94840(A) TECHNICAL MANUAL FOR RADIO SET AN/WRC-1
AND ANTENNA COUPLER CU-937/UR - Volume I.  4 February 1964.
3" thick!  $35.00.

TM 11-5820-295-35 FIELD AND DEPOT MAINTENANCE MANUAL RADIO
SET AN/GRC-19.  T-195 transmitter, R-392 receiver.
16 September 1960.  $10.00.

TM 11-5820-295-35P DS, GS, AND DEPOT MAINTENANCE REPAIR PARTS
AND SPECIAL TOOL LISTS RADIO SET AN/GRC-19. 7 May 1969. $10.00.

TM 11-5820-334-20 ORGANIZATIONAL MAINTENANCE MANUAL RADIO
RECEIVER R-392/URR.  27 December 1960.  $10.00.

TM 11-5820-335-35P  DS, GS, AND DEPOT MAINTENANCE REPAIR PARTS
AND SPECIAL TOOL LISTS TRANSMITTER T-195/GRC-19, T-195A/GRC-19,
T-195B/GRC-19.  30 December 1965.  $10.00.

TM 11-5820-348-15 ORGANIZATIONAL, DIRECT SUPPORT, GENERAL SUPPORT,
AND DEPOT MAINTENANCE MANUAL ANTENNA EQUIPMENT RC-292. 23 May 1966.
With C4 29 December 1978.  $20.00.

TM 11-5820-357-10 OPERATOR'S MANUAL RADIO RECEIVER R-390/URR.
29 December 1960.  With C4 30 May 1974.  $15.00

TM 11-5820-357-20P ORGANIZATIONAL MAINTENANCE REPAIR PARTS,
AND SPECIAL TOOL LISTS, AND MAINTENANCE ALLOCATION CHART,
RADIO RECEIVER R-390/URR. 4 November 1959. With C1 25 April 1962.
$10.00.

TM 11-5820-358-20 ORGANIZATIONAL MAINTENANCE MANUAL RADIO
RECEIVER R-390A/URR.  10 February 1961.  With C2 23 August 1963,
C3 3 April 1975, C4 29 February 1980.  $15.00.

TM 11-490-7 US ARMY MILITARY AFFILIATE RADIO SYSTEM (MARS)
COMMUNICATIONS PRACTICES AND PROCEDURES.  March 1975  $10.00.
The good old days.

US Army Armor School, Fort Knox, Kentucky  BE YOUR OWN INSPECTOR
ON YOUR AN/PRT-4 AND AN/PRR-9.  "Connie", (remember her), tells
you how to care for your AN/PRT-4 and AN/PRR-9. "Reproduced from
PS Magazine, Issue 199."  $15.00.

Maintenance Assistance and Instruction Team (MAIT)
US Army Readiness Group Selfridge RGS MAI-500
AM AND SSB TACTICAL ANTENNAS.  December 1976.  $10.00.
Using the Antenna Group AN/GRA-50 HF antenna.

FM 11-92 COMBAT COMMUNICATIONS WITHIN THE CORPS. 1 November 1978.
Amazing manual in 3 colors. It list every element of the Corps
Signal Brigade that has an individual mission, describes what
that mission is,  lists the exact radio communications equipment
to be used, lists the personnel to be assigned, etc.  $25.00.

All prices plus shipping.

Please include your zip code.

Thank you for looking.

Bruce WA8TNC















From kk5f at earthlink.net  Tue Apr 21 19:54:30 2009
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:54:30 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [Milsurplus] AN/ARC-50
Message-ID: <32604762.1240358070284.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>I saw an AN/ARC-50 on Sunday and it looks interesting, but I'm unable to
>find almost any info on it.

Not much.  I believe it is the first spread-spectrum or frequency-hopping
aircraft UHF command set, related to the AN/ARC-90, and at least 35 years old.

An overview of a textbook mentioning it is at:

(http://cict.inatel.br/nova2/docentes/dayan/Electronic_Library/e-BOOK/Spread%20Spectrum/00_fm.pdf)

That would make it the ancestor to today's "Have Quick" frequency-hopping UHF
command sets like the later versions of the AN/ARC-164.

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/HAVE_QUICK_II

Where did you see one?

Mike / KK5F





From TELEGRAPHER at att.net  Tue Apr 21 21:22:57 2009
From: TELEGRAPHER at att.net (TELEGRAPHER at att.net)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:22:57 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] Couple of WWII Air Bases
Message-ID: <042220090122.1124.49EE7171000953880000046422218683269B0A02D29B9B0EBFADBAB8AFBEADB9BAB4BAAB@att.net>

I have found a manila folder in the collection that has documentation for Mitchell Field in NY and "Headquarters GRENIER FIELD, Station 16, NAD, ATC, Manchester, N.H. also known as 1377th AAF BASE Unit (NAD-ATC).  One is a letter to "The Airplane Commander" laying down the rules for his and the crew's responsibilities.

The other letter is to: All Transient Pilots"  concerning briefing prior to departures.  I suspect that was meant to be prior to their departure overseas.  Pretty neat info.

This stuff belongs in a display case so people can see it.  Not a lot here but i doubt anyone on the list would be interested in it so it should go to a particular place.  

For Mitchell Field:

Pilots Flight Test Check list.  This one is clean and unused, hand typed of course.
A set of orders for Four officers and 4 different airplanes being alerted for duty effective 1 Feb. 45.  Instructions for obtaining Medical clearance, records check, parachute checks and loading of the aircraft.  More on this on the back page.  These were issued by the 110th AAF Base Unit (Staging), Mitchell Field.

There is a check list for B-24 Engineers. A Combat Crew Field Clearance Sheet for crew AF-6 as to where they will go (what building) for the different base clearing functions.  Jan 31, 1945.

An overhead drawing of the airfield and an Airway Forcast sheet for weather.  Doesn't say anything really about their route which is from Mitchell Field to Bangor ME. via hartford and Boston.  Attached is a copy of the weather TTY machine printout.  NEAT!  A nice look back into history.

Then there are several Aircraft items.  Heated covers for the bombsite, Bombsite stabilizer and Autopilot Servo's.  

Army Air Forces Official Amplified Check List for B-24-D, G, E, H and J.  Dec 1943

Letter of Instruction for the B-24 type P2 Aux power unit.

A letter or information for the Pilots Information File concerning the B-24 heating system.

Tech Order 01-5-115, 16 June 1944 addresses the "Emergency Landing Procedures" for the B-24, RB-24, C-87, AT-22, F-7, RY-1 and PB4Y-1 series acft.

Revision of AAF Official Landing Check list for B-24 series airplanes.  One page of typed data from 30 Oct. 1944.

One other thing in the folder was an "Engine Storage record" showing that 4 engines from B-24M S/N 44-50337 were placed in storage in Minneapolis, Mn on 12-21-1944.  this also shows that the Mechanic and Forman performed engine runup and turning of the props on different dates while there.

Is there any sort of historical display or society around Mitchell Field, is it still even an active airport?  Same question with the grenier Field out of Manchester, NH.  I'll be glad to send this information to any responsible individual related to such activities.

Otherwise it will go in the trash and that's a bad demise for it.

Larry
W0OGH




From mstangelo at comcast.net  Tue Apr 21 21:35:52 2009
From: mstangelo at comcast.net (Michael St. Angelo)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:35:52 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Couple of WWII Air Bases
References: <042220090122.1124.49EE7171000953880000046422218683269B0A02D29B9B0EBFADBAB8AFBEADB9BAB4BAAB@att.net>
Message-ID: <6B51249AAD0B45DABF243CBE9426F0E4@MAY>

Larry,

There is a museum at Mitchel Field. They may be interested in the 
documentation:

<http://www.cradleofaviation.org/history/airfields/mitchel.html>

Note the spelling - Mitchel not Mitchell. It's a common mistake.

Mike N2MS

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <TELEGRAPHER at att.net>
To: <Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:22 PM
Subject: [Milsurplus] Couple of WWII Air Bases


>I have found a manila folder in the collection that has documentation for 
>Mitchell Field in NY and "Headquarters GRENIER FIELD, Station 16, NAD, ATC, 
>Manchester, N.H. also known as 1377th AAF BASE Unit (NAD-ATC).  One is a 
>letter to "The Airplane Commander" laying down the rules for his and the 
>crew's responsibilities.
>
> The other letter is to: All Transient Pilots"  concerning briefing prior 
> to departures.  I suspect that was meant to be prior to their departure 
> overseas.  Pretty neat info.
>
> This stuff belongs in a display case so people can see it.  Not a lot here 
> but i doubt anyone on the list would be interested in it so it should go 
> to a particular place.
>
> For Mitchell Field:
>
> Pilots Flight Test Check list.  This one is clean and unused, hand typed 
> of course.
> A set of orders for Four officers and 4 different airplanes being alerted 
> for duty effective 1 Feb. 45.  Instructions for obtaining Medical 
> clearance, records check, parachute checks and loading of the aircraft. 
> More on this on the back page.  These were issued by the 110th AAF Base 
> Unit (Staging), Mitchell Field.
>
> There is a check list for B-24 Engineers. A Combat Crew Field Clearance 
> Sheet for crew AF-6 as to where they will go (what building) for the 
> different base clearing functions.  Jan 31, 1945.
>
> An overhead drawing of the airfield and an Airway Forcast sheet for 
> weather.  Doesn't say anything really about their route which is from 
> Mitchell Field to Bangor ME. via hartford and Boston.  Attached is a copy 
> of the weather TTY machine printout.  NEAT!  A nice look back into 
> history.
>
> Then there are several Aircraft items.  Heated covers for the bombsite, 
> Bombsite stabilizer and Autopilot Servo's.
>
> Army Air Forces Official Amplified Check List for B-24-D, G, E, H and J. 
> Dec 1943
>
> Letter of Instruction for the B-24 type P2 Aux power unit.
>
> A letter or information for the Pilots Information File concerning the 
> B-24 heating system.
>
> Tech Order 01-5-115, 16 June 1944 addresses the "Emergency Landing 
> Procedures" for the B-24, RB-24, C-87, AT-22, F-7, RY-1 and PB4Y-1 series 
> acft.
>
> Revision of AAF Official Landing Check list for B-24 series airplanes. 
> One page of typed data from 30 Oct. 1944.
>
> One other thing in the folder was an "Engine Storage record" showing that 
> 4 engines from B-24M S/N 44-50337 were placed in storage in Minneapolis, 
> Mn on 12-21-1944.  this also shows that the Mechanic and Forman performed 
> engine runup and turning of the props on different dates while there.
>
> Is there any sort of historical display or society around Mitchell Field, 
> is it still even an active airport?  Same question with the grenier Field 
> out of Manchester, NH.  I'll be glad to send this information to any 
> responsible individual related to such activities.
>
> Otherwise it will go in the trash and that's a bad demise for it.
>
> Larry
> W0OGH
>
>
>
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From andywilliams at pobox.com  Tue Apr 21 21:47:36 2009
From: andywilliams at pobox.com (Andy Williams)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:47:36 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Couple of WWII Air Bases
In-Reply-To: <042220090122.1124.49EE7171000953880000046422218683269B0A02D29B9B0EBFADBAB8AFBEADB9BAB4BAAB@att.net>
References: <042220090122.1124.49EE7171000953880000046422218683269B0A02D29B9B0EBFADBAB8AFBEADB9BAB4BAAB@att.net>
Message-ID: <68663CFD-BD2F-4365-9DF1-F72A92A97F96@pobox.com>

Grenier Field is now Manchester Boston Regional Airport, MHT. I know  
they still exist because I flew from there to La Guardia this evening.  
The Aviation Museum of New Hampshire is located on the airport  
property, but I have never been there. http://www.flymanchester.com/about/aviation_museum.php

On Apr 21, 2009, at 9:22 PM, TELEGRAPHER at att.net wrote:

> I have found a manila folder in the collection that has  
> documentation for Mitchell Field in NY and "Headquarters GRENIER  
> FIELD, Station 16, NAD, ATC, Manchester, N.H. also known as 1377th  
> AAF BASE Unit (NAD-ATC).  One is a letter to "The Airplane  
> Commander" laying down the rules for his and the crew's  
> responsibilities.
>
> The other letter is to: All Transient Pilots"  concerning briefing  
> prior to departures.  I suspect that was meant to be prior to their  
> departure overseas.  Pretty neat info.
>
> This stuff belongs in a display case so people can see it.  Not a  
> lot here but i doubt anyone on the list would be interested in it so  
> it should go to a particular place.
>
> For Mitchell Field:
>
> Pilots Flight Test Check list.  This one is clean and unused, hand  
> typed of course.
> A set of orders for Four officers and 4 different airplanes being  
> alerted for duty effective 1 Feb. 45.  Instructions for obtaining  
> Medical clearance, records check, parachute checks and loading of  
> the aircraft.  More on this on the back page.  These were issued by  
> the 110th AAF Base Unit (Staging), Mitchell Field.
>
> There is a check list for B-24 Engineers. A Combat Crew Field  
> Clearance Sheet for crew AF-6 as to where they will go (what  
> building) for the different base clearing functions.  Jan 31, 1945.
>
> An overhead drawing of the airfield and an Airway Forcast sheet for  
> weather.  Doesn't say anything really about their route which is  
> from Mitchell Field to Bangor ME. via hartford and Boston.  Attached  
> is a copy of the weather TTY machine printout.  NEAT!  A nice look  
> back into history.
>
> Then there are several Aircraft items.  Heated covers for the  
> bombsite, Bombsite stabilizer and Autopilot Servo's.
>
> Army Air Forces Official Amplified Check List for B-24-D, G, E, H  
> and J.  Dec 1943
>
> Letter of Instruction for the B-24 type P2 Aux power unit.
>
> A letter or information for the Pilots Information File concerning  
> the B-24 heating system.
>
> Tech Order 01-5-115, 16 June 1944 addresses the "Emergency Landing  
> Procedures" for the B-24, RB-24, C-87, AT-22, F-7, RY-1 and PB4Y-1  
> series acft.
>
> Revision of AAF Official Landing Check list for B-24 series  
> airplanes.  One page of typed data from 30 Oct. 1944.
>
> One other thing in the folder was an "Engine Storage record" showing  
> that 4 engines from B-24M S/N 44-50337 were placed in storage in  
> Minneapolis, Mn on 12-21-1944.  this also shows that the Mechanic  
> and Forman performed engine runup and turning of the props on  
> different dates while there.
>
> Is there any sort of historical display or society around Mitchell  
> Field, is it still even an active airport?  Same question with the  
> grenier Field out of Manchester, NH.  I'll be glad to send this  
> information to any responsible individual related to such activities.
>
> Otherwise it will go in the trash and that's a bad demise for it.
>
> Larry
> W0OGH
>
>
>
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From icra at galaxynet.com  Wed Apr 22 00:16:00 2009
From: icra at galaxynet.com (icra at galaxynet.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:16:00 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Radios used in PBY aircraft
In-Reply-To: <042220090122.1124.49EE7171000953880000046422218683269B0A02D29B9B0EBFADBAB8AFBEADB9BAB4BAAB@att.net>
References: <042220090122.1124.49EE7171000953880000046422218683269B0A02D29B9B0EBFADBAB8AFBEADB9BAB4BAAB@att.net>
Message-ID: <49EE3790.22753.B720D@icra.galaxynet.com>

PBY aircraft were based at NAS Whidbey Island and are the reason the first base here was 
built.

They have started a PBY museum here with the goal of documenting the history of PBYs here 
and obtaining a PBY for display

Looking for info on radios used in PBY aircraft and, at some point in the future, obtaining 
radios for display (either semi-permanent loan or donation)

Any help available from the list would be helpful

Mel
N7OKL

From kargo_cult at msn.com  Wed Apr 22 16:50:32 2009
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:50:32 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] NAS Whidby Museum
References: <mailman.5835.1240373765.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV84A14B77030E659161BA2E4740@phx.gbl>

Interesting to read about a PBY museum to 
commemorate the former Whidby NAS. However,
i wonder where the big bucks are going to come 
from. Many museums are sinkholes for money;
i also recall reading an NYT article about a year
ago, before the economic downturn, that said
regional museums, those outside megalopolis,
were suffering a decline in attendance. So in 
these economic circumstances, who's the 
angel? 
While i'm being negative, i wonder what 
infinitesimally small fraction of  potential
visitors cares about seeing any radios. 

Which reminds me, re the Flight Heritage
Collection in Everett, WA - i should send 
them a note that their Lancaster section
needs better signage. I suspect many 
visitors have no idea that they are looking
at the radio operator's position or the 
navigator position. 
-Hue Miller  

From jfor at quik.com  Wed Apr 22 11:27:02 2009
From: jfor at quik.com (J. Forster)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:27:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] NAS Whidby Museum
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV84A14B77030E659161BA2E4740@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.5835.1240373765.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<BAY109-DAV84A14B77030E659161BA2E4740@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1206.12.6.201.170.1240414022.squirrel@pop.quik.com>

At the risk of being flamed, I have to agree with you.

I understand that proper signage is a lot of work and requires much time
and effort, not only to put up informative and technically correct signs,
but also to cater to a wide range of knowlege levels. Clearly not easy.

My experience with this is quite limited, but when I toured the sub
Lionfish almost none of the electronics (or other systems) were labelled.
Further, it was very hard to figure out how the whole thing worked
together. And I'm not exactly a technical novice.  The impression I came
away with was a forest of valves and pipes and some electrical things, but
I certainly could not have told you if the boat even had sonar.

Perhaps a booklet that set out the major systems would have helped. It's a
pity, IMO, because there is so much engineering there.

FWIW,
-John



> While i'm being negative, i wonder what
> infinitesimally small fraction of  potential
> visitors cares about seeing any radios.

> Which reminds me, re the Flight Heritage
> Collection in Everett, WA - i should send
> them a note that their Lancaster section
> needs better signage. I suspect many
> visitors have no idea that they are looking
> at the radio operator's position or the
> navigator position.
> -Hue Miller



From TELEGRAPHER at att.net  Wed Apr 22 15:24:52 2009
From: TELEGRAPHER at att.net (TELEGRAPHER at att.net)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:24:52 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] TS-888 TS
Message-ID: <042220091924.10527.49EF6F040008074A0000291F22230704929B0A02D29B9B0EBFADBAB8AFBEADB9BAB4BAAB@att.net>

Anyone know anything abut this?  Any documentation out there?  Only thing a query to the net is not adequate.  This is a Marconi instrument.

Larry
W0OGH


From kargo_cult at msn.com  Wed Apr 22 16:00:04 2009
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:00:04 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Museum displays...
In-Reply-To: <mailman.46.1240416009.29724.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.46.1240416009.29724.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <SNT109-W7337D893FB4DD2D78C907CE4740@phx.gbl>


John, that reminds me of the Bowfin submarine at Pearl Harbor. 
There's a "self guided" audio tour, but as i read your 

recent post, i realized that things just are not marked

inside. There's a good number of electronics boxes inside.
I think a paper guide with photos or outline drawings of

the various machines and gizmos inside would help - and

they could sell it, too. -Hue Miller 


From jfor at quik.com  Wed Apr 22 16:12:41 2009
From: jfor at quik.com (J. Forster)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:12:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Museum displays...
In-Reply-To: <SNT109-W7337D893FB4DD2D78C907CE4740@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.46.1240416009.29724.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<SNT109-W7337D893FB4DD2D78C907CE4740@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <2221.12.6.201.242.1240431161.squirrel@pop.quik.com>

Agreed.

Something aimed at the technical level of, say, a car mechanic. Not a
rocket scientist, but more than a fifth grader.

It should include a basic description of the major systems and their
components (propulsion, power, flotation, radio, radar, life support,
navigation, and weapons) A toilet is pretty obvious, but how does it flush
when submerged?

I was reduced to trying to read name plates in cramped, dimly lit
compartments through plexiglas.

What would be really nice would be a diagram of the boat w/ transparent
overlays for various systems. They also might sell a CD with diagrams so
various systems could be turned on and off, like different layers in
AutoCAD.

FWIW,
-John




> John, that reminds me of the Bowfin submarine at Pearl Harbor.
> There's a "self guided" audio tour, but as i read your
>
> recent post, i realized that things just are not marked
>
> inside. There's a good number of electronics boxes inside.
> I think a paper guide with photos or outline drawings of
>
> the various machines and gizmos inside would help - and
>
> they could sell it, too. -Hue Miller



From wh7hg.hi at gmail.com  Wed Apr 22 16:13:27 2009
From: wh7hg.hi at gmail.com (Michael Tauson)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:13:27 -1000
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCS-51
In-Reply-To: <16961659.1240266332216.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <16961659.1240266332216.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <c34299fb0904221313m1a443ff5odc5c57db2b856e0e@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Mike Morrow <kk5f at earthlink.net> wrote:
> The SCS-51, AFAIK, refers to the complete ILS system, both the stuff on
> the ground and the stuff flying.

Ahhh, okay.  This sounds reasonable.

> The RC-103-A was *only* the VHF localizer receiver, and it was deployed before
> the glide-slope system was available.

>From what I can see, that came into existance in 1943.  Sounds about right?

> Before war's end, the R-89/ARN-5A three-channel UHF glide slope receiver
> was available to input to the vertical travel needle on the I-101.

The single channel R-57 came before it but I have no clue when.  Would
you happen to have some idea when it, the R-89 and the R-443(?) six
channel receiver went in service?

> Except for channel assignments, it's the same ILS used today. ?Amazing!

Many much more channels!  When a system works as well as this does,
it's a good idea not to mess with it - esecially with the ever growing
number of aircraft equipped for it.

> The SCS-51 is a far better ILS than the one that the USN tried to use, the
> old pre-war model ZA and ZA-1 (Air-Track) ILS.

The ZA was a good idea poorly executed.  On the other hand, I wonder
how much the ZA's concept contributed to the later BC-733 & AN/ARN-5
execution.

Best regards,

Michael

From jydsk at tds.net  Wed Apr 22 16:23:26 2009
From: jydsk at tds.net (Steve Hilsz)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:23:26 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Cords For Your Head/Chect Sets
Message-ID: <E28973986276465CBBB9C8F4AACE37A0@warehouse>

For those with field phones or fire control (artillery) phones, or even BD-7 
switchboards or similar equipment, I have some new old stock CC-343-A 
military cords that will keep your head/chest sets in good shape for a 
while. These original equipment cords have the big spade lugs for a PL-58 
plug. The cords are $5 each plus postage. I also have new PL-58 plugs for 
$3.50 each plus postage.

Steve Hilsz
jydsk at tds.net 


From TELEGRAPHER at att.net  Wed Apr 22 16:30:55 2009
From: TELEGRAPHER at att.net (TELEGRAPHER at att.net)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:30:55 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] TS-888 TS
Message-ID: <042220092030.23726.49EF7E7F00089A0F00005CAE22218675169B0A02D29B9B0EBFADBAB8AFBEADB9BAB4BAAB@att.net>



 This should have read "TF-888" and not TS-888.  My mistake.  I didn't hear the correct letters over a very noisy 40 meter band.
Hope i've got it correct now!

Larry
W0OGH

-------------- Forwarded Message: --------------
From: TELEGRAPHER at att.net
To: MILSURPLUS at Mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Milsurplus] TS-888 TS
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:25:01 +0000

Anyone know anything abut this?  Any documentation out there?  Only thing a 
query to the net is not adequate.  This is a Marconi instrument.

Larry
W0OGH

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From kargo_cult at msn.com  Wed Apr 22 16:50:41 2009
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:50:41 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Museum displays...
In-Reply-To: <2221.12.6.201.242.1240431161.squirrel@pop.quik.com>
References: <mailman.46.1240416009.29724.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<SNT109-W7337D893FB4DD2D78C907CE4740@phx.gbl> 
	<2221.12.6.201.242.1240431161.squirrel@pop.quik.com>
Message-ID: <SNT109-W38B8E0FFD906EF6CE2D969E4740@phx.gbl>



John, your ideas are very good. A CD/DVD is the way to go, 

and could be priced attractively also. It also occurred to

me that paper models, like like those sold in Europe, might

be a mover too - and low enuff priced that they would do

as an impulse purchase item.  I may be in Hawaii this Sept.

and maybe will have a chance to suggest some things i see, 

to the Bowfin or Missouri staff. 

I was VERY highly impressed by the condition of the sub

Bowfin, and by the completeness of its equipment. Quite 

a contrast to the U-505 in Chicago, altho that might have

been cleaned up somewhat now. The U-505 was moved

inside due to concerns about acid rain damaging it. 

-Hue 

From carseneau at birkeys.com  Wed Apr 22 17:04:23 2009
From: carseneau at birkeys.com (Curt Arseneau)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:04:23 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] Aircraft radio gear
Message-ID: <A117A745A2AD4A3D846209C71ABFFFA0@carseneauPC>

Have been shopping around for some equipment for a static display in a museum aircraft for some time. Many of you have been generous with your time, information and even donated parts. Can't thank you enough. Going to the well one more time. I have located a J-68/ARC-3 power supply including 1 each DY-21 and DY-22 dynamotor from a source in France. While the price seems reasonable (about $320) and the dynamotors are in working order (I'm told) shipping is a large expense and working dyno's are overkill for our project. 
1st question: Would anyone have the complete setup available for sale or trade here in North America? Does not need to work.
2nd: Would anyone have either the J-68 w/o dyno's or either (or both) nonworking dyno's available? 

Finding any or all of  the parts on this side of the Atlantic especially in nonworking condition, would save significant stacks of US$ to use in other areas of the project. 
Referrals to sources also appreciated.
Thank you all for your generous support.
Curt Arseneau
Restoration Volunteer

From wh7hg.hi at gmail.com  Wed Apr 22 17:34:10 2009
From: wh7hg.hi at gmail.com (Michael Tauson)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:34:10 -1000
Subject: [Milsurplus] Questions about the Collins 18S and 618* equipment
In-Reply-To: <16869780.1240265386840.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <16869780.1240265386840.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Mike Morrow <kk5f at earthlink.net> wrote:
> The military version of the 18S-4 is the RT-380/AR, part of AN/ARC-59.

I thought there was a military version but couldn't remember precisely.  Thanks.

> No, the 618M is a VHF-AM aviation-band unit, introduced in the 1960s, IIRC.
> I'd bet some are still flying, just like the contemporary 618T HF set.

It depends on several factors.  A whole bunch of radios got grounded
on 1 January, 1997, when the 25 KCs spacing (720 channel) went into
effect so virtually (if not all) the 180 channel and a good number of
360 channel radios went out of service.  (A number of these grounded
sets are going for outrageous amounts on ePay - maybe for people
building flight simulators?)  I wouldn't doubt that Collins ensured at
least the later versions would remain airworthy, even now with the
1440 channel systems in effect.

>>What (if any) modules are interchangeable between the 618S-1 &
>>RT-311/ARC-38, the 618S-1/MC & RT-594/ARC-38S and between the two
>>groups?
>
> No doubt some modules are common in these four units.

Waste not, want not.  :-)

> There are many
> differences between the contemporary USAF 618S-1 and the USN RT-311/ARC-38,
> but the major one is the use of 144 crystal channels in the 618S-1 versus
> the use of a Stabilized Master Oscillator (SMO, O-215/ARC-38) to generate
> frequency in the RT-311. ?The USAF's AM crystal-controlled 618S-1 was
> modified by RCA to the Collins/RCA 618S-1/MC, which provided USB and
> incrementally tuned operating frequency. ?The USN's already incrementally
> tuned AM RT-311/ARC-38 was likewise modified by RCA to create the USB
> Collins/RCA RT-594/ARC-38A. ?All four of these variants have significant
> differences between them, but also many similarities.

Okay, this gives me some idea how to arrange my thinking on how to
work this out.  I have manuals for the RT-594/ARC-38A and the
618S-1/MC so checking that isn't a problem but it looks like I need to
augment my collection with ones for the AM versions as well to
complete this highly unofficial project ... that kind of grew out of
plans to get one or another version for my own nefarious purposes.
:-)

> The military version of the 618T-2 (400 Hz power) is the RT-695/ARC-94.
> The military version of the 618T-3 (28 vdc power) is the RT-698/ARC-102.
> There are also several other variants, such as the AN/ARC-105.

>From what I can see, the AN/ARC-105 is a pressurized AN/ARC-102.
Since no part of Oahu is very far above sea level, I doubt that
feature is needful.  :-)

> At least as far as the AN/ARC-94 and -102 go, they both used the
> C-3940/ARC-94 control head that allowed full mode selection capability.

That would be the same as the 714E-3 for certain - maybe one of the
others as well.  I don't have the IDs for all the military versions -
or all the civilian ones, for all that - so I'm grateful for notes
like this to help identify what I can.

> The 618T-series has my vote for the best airborne MF/HF set of all time.

I have to agree with this.  (Now, if I could make it tune between 1 KC
spacing ... )

Best regards,

Michael, WH7HG

From boatguy at hughes.net  Wed Apr 22 18:49:01 2009
From: boatguy at hughes.net (Boatguy)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:49:01 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] Milsurplus Digest, Vol 60, Issue 27 (ATF Use of HF)
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Message-ID: <39FEE7B28F5C480A91BD1696912D7435@CarlPC>

You said it my 817 is by far tthe best small radio I have ever owned.Mine 
has that a after marget battery cant think of the outfit that makes them I 
get good service out of it.I also use the radio on my boat for marine side 
band.I  use a 100 watt broadband amp works like a charm.I use a ols AM ship 
to Shore Antenna with a tuner and it works fine.
The military stuff altho I love it and have some its just to troublesome and 
mostly hard to fix.I guess thats why we have Jim Karlow.For the cost of a 
1099 2000 or 104 and the like as user I dont think so.They are also to costy 
to just set on a shelf but if you could find one not working reasonable I 
guess that would be ok.Nice display stuff.I have a BC 652 and 53 both brand 
new nevr used or had the tubes put in it.Dont have a mounting rack anybody 
got one
 Carl
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Morrow" <kk5f at earthlink.net>
To: <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Milsurplus Digest, Vol 60, Issue 27 (ATF Use of 
HF)


> John wrote:
>
>>I have a PRC-104 with a PRC-74 tunable antenna,etc. for the real world/QRP
>>pedestrian operations.
>
> I'd put my money on something more modern, like a commercial Yaesu FT-817, 
> but
> even that small set is a battery power hog.
>
> If you go to YouTube and search for "goathiker" you'll find some very 
> interesting
> trips taken by NOTU and his goats, Rooster and Peanut, for some QRP ops 
> out in
> the mountains.  Example:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHgVYVkW25w
> He uses an FT-817 power hog, but he's got the goats to do the hauling. 
> Even they
> would balk at a long trip with an AN/PRC-104 and batteries, I think.
>
>>I think it is a great radio system to use for HF backbacking if I ever get
>>around to that great adventure.
>
> Using a AN/PRC-104 sounds more like day hiking rather than backpacking. 
> When
> packing for a few days out on the trail, every ounce of extra weight 
> quickly
> begins to hurt.  My backpacking HF rigs for tha past decade have been 
> modern
> purpose-designed QRP rigs, my favorite being the Elecraft K1 four-band 
> CW-only
> battery friendly rig.  Another candidate is the Elecraft KX1.  You can 
> back pack
> these and their power source without breaking your back.  A dipole weighs 
> much less
> than the PRC-74 whip, and is on the order of at least **30 dB** better in 
> performance
> on both transmit and receive.
>
> I like all the military sets (especially the Transworld PRC1099), but 
> usually military
> technology lags commercial state of the art until you get into the really 
> specialized
> stuff.
>
> Mike / KK5F
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From scr287 at sbcglobal.net  Wed Apr 22 21:15:59 2009
From: scr287 at sbcglobal.net (Jack Antonio)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:15:59 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] SCS-51
In-Reply-To: <c34299fb0904221313m1a443ff5odc5c57db2b856e0e@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <49EFC14F.3060308@sbcglobal.net>

On the AN/ARN-5, there was another receiver in
the ARN-5 series, the R-47/ARN-5. It was a super-regen, and
my manual says only a limited number "are in the
field for training purposes". It goes on to say in fine
print not to use the receiver in areas with multiple
transmitters due to the lack of adjacent channel selectivity.

The R-57 is a single channel unit, which the manual says is
for use on 3 channels by changing the crystal, "The two crystals
not in use are stored in the receiver".

The R-89 is a 3 channel unit, but there are 6 channel select
relays(2 relays for each crystal), and holes punched in the metal work 
for 3 additional crystal sockets.  So it appears they were thinking 6 
channels right from the start. The crystals are CR-1/AR units.
There was also an R-89A and R-89B, which a quick read of the
manual indicates differences in strong signal characteristics.

I have an R-268B/ARN-5B which is a 10 channel unit, with
HC-6/U crystals. It looks like it was modified from an R-89.

But I have no idea of the time frame when the later receivers
came out.

Jack Antonio WA7DIA
scr287 at sbcglobal.net

From jfor at quik.com  Thu Apr 23 00:32:41 2009
From: jfor at quik.com (J. Forster)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:32:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Searchlights
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV84A14B77030E659161BA2E4740@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.5835.1240373765.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
	<BAY109-DAV84A14B77030E659161BA2E4740@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <3567.12.6.201.125.1240461161.squirrel@pop.quik.com>

How Were World War II Searchlights Used?

http://www.skylighters.org/howalightworks/index.html>

Regards,
Jerry Proc VE3FAB
E-mail: jerry.proc at sympatico.ca
Web:  <http://jproc.ca> http://jproc.ca



From robandpj at earthlink.net  Thu Apr 23 05:27:41 2009
From: robandpj at earthlink.net (Robert Flory)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:27:41 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Museum Displays
Message-ID: <410-22009442392741859@earthlink.net>

John, it sounds like you have just volunteered for your next project after you get done with BB-59s RADAR gear.

A guide to the systems on LIONFISH would be great.  

Someone suggested a CD, but that would be hard to use on the boat.  Would make a nice take-home, though.  PAMPANITO has some excellent documentation on the web.  

RF

From olegerityincj at austin.rr.com  Thu Apr 23 07:19:35 2009
From: olegerityincj at austin.rr.com (John Hutchins)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:19:35 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] Museum Displays
In-Reply-To: <410-22009442392741859@earthlink.net>
References: <410-22009442392741859@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <49F04EC7.3030600@austin.rr.com>

ALL -

Iphone or BlackBerry that is the ticket. Simply download it decrypt it 
and play.

Hutch

Robert Flory wrote:
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From jfor at quik.com  Thu Apr 23 10:46:33 2009
From: jfor at quik.com (J. Forster)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:46:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Museum Displays
In-Reply-To: <49F04EC7.3030600@austin.rr.com>
References: <410-22009442392741859@earthlink.net>
	<49F04EC7.3030600@austin.rr.com>
Message-ID: <1067.12.6.201.246.1240497993.squirrel@pop.quik.com>

I thought about that, but handing those out to visitors and getting them
all back, or asking people to bring their own, is really not practical.
The cost would just be prohibitive.

Best,
-John


> ALL -
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>> Would make a nice take-home, though.  PAMPANITO has some excellent
>> documentation on the web.
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>> RF
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From jfor at quik.com  Thu Apr 23 13:00:35 2009
From: jfor at quik.com (J. Forster)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:00:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Museum Displays
In-Reply-To: <410-22009442392741859@earthlink.net>
References: <410-22009442392741859@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1375.12.6.201.93.1240506035.squirrel@pop.quik.com>

> John, it sounds like you have just volunteered for your next project
after you get done with BB-59s RADAR gear.

LoL. Sadly, my current circumstances would make that difficult.

> A guide to the systems on LIONFISH would be great.

It's a complex task because it would require going through and scanning a
lot of drawings and extracting the essentials (a knowlege of WW II subs
would be really helpful here).  Writing the text would be very time
consuming too, because to write something up intelegently requires an
understanding of how it works.

I doubt much artistry would be required, but photographing the equipment
would be very time consuming. The spaces are so cramped, lighting and 
optical distortion are real problemsb. It could well take a couple of
hours to get a single good shot. In two tours through the boat, maybe 5 of
my 200+ photos are halfway decent. The photos really need to be done with
the camera on a tripod and properly lighted (not via a strobe).

Consider how many high res photos it would take to reasonably document an
ARC-5 set, for example. You can't do even that in 5 minutes.

Once the IP is generated, it could easily be edited into booklets of
several degrees of detail, put onto a CD, or some mobile computing device,
or onto the web.

For those so equipped, maybe you coyuld hook up your iPhone or Blackberry
to a port in the gift shop and D/L the giude.

FWIW,
-John



> Someone suggested a CD, but that would be hard to use on the boat.  Would
> make a nice take-home, though.  PAMPANITO has some excellent ocumentation
> on the web.
>
> RF
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb


From wctaylor at juno.com  Thu Apr 23 16:59:55 2009
From: wctaylor at juno.com (wctaylor at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:59:55 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] Museum display ships
Message-ID: <20090423.155955.3720.0.wctaylor@juno.com>

I've been reading the posts on this subject and you're all correct that
more information needs to be presented. I noticed in the first post I
read that the USS Bowfin SS287 was mentioned. I was part of the
restoration crew for her in 1980 until I was transferred from Pearl
Harbor in October of that year. I was an Electronics Technician on a
submarine home ported in Pearl Harbor. My involvement started with
getting the 1MC stack (ship wide announcing system) working but when they
found out that I was familiar with most all of the radio equipment the
curator let me get as much working as we had power for. 

If I was living in Hawaii now I'd certainly want to get the Bowfin on the
air during special events. Everything in radio was working when I left
except the TBL transmitter and the only reason for that was we didn't
have enough DC power to run it's MG set (dynamotor). The wire rope
antennas were taken off and the only antenna at the time was the whip on
top the periscope shears.

73
Bill Taylor KD4LXC
ex ET1/SS
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From smithab11 at comcast.net  Thu Apr 23 20:50:35 2009
From: smithab11 at comcast.net (B. Smith)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:50:35 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Ft. Miles Operations Saturday
Message-ID: <122E770F51834607B9F6EC0689160BF5@BCXHTR8HVC4P>

    On Saturday 25 April, from 1400Z to 2000Z  I will be operating WWII 
radio equipment  under the call sign of W3D from  Fort Miles, Delaware 
commemorating the special WWII history of the Fort.  Fort Miles accepted 
the surrender  of U-858 a German sub in 1945 and was a major gun 
installation guarding the Delaware Bay.
    CW on 80 and 40 meters, send slow.
73
breck k4che

http://fortmiles.org/

http://www.fortmilesha.org/

http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=200859 


From n9zsv at magtel.com  Thu Apr 23 22:08:55 2009
From: n9zsv at magtel.com (Gary Pewitt)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:08:55 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] Searchlights
In-Reply-To: <3567.12.6.201.125.1240461161.squirrel@pop.quik.com>
References: <mailman.5835.1240373765.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
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Message-ID: <200904240208.n3O28x2D021410@mail960c35.nsolutionszone.com>

At first they were just swiveled around to find bomber 
targets.  Later they were directed by acoustic direction finders and 
still later directed by radar.  When radar got more advanced they 
just dropped the searchlights and aimed the guns by radar.
73  Gary



At 11:32 PM 4/22/2009, J. Forster wrote:
>How Were World War II Searchlights Used?
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>http://www.skylighters.org/howalightworks/index.html>
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>Regards,
>Jerry Proc VE3FAB
>E-mail: jerry.proc at sympatico.ca
>Web:  <http://jproc.ca> http://jproc.ca
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From olegerityincj at austin.rr.com  Fri Apr 24 08:45:19 2009
From: olegerityincj at austin.rr.com (John Hutchins)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 07:45:19 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] New electrolytic capacitor the size.
Message-ID: <49F1B45F.3090503@austin.rr.com>

Group -
Ordered my first electrolytic capacitors in at least  25 years.  Holy 
cow they are at lease 1/3 the volume of the old WWII style caps for the 
same ratings and value!  With the correct tools you could open the old 
cans and easily replace the old contents with the new CAP and then 
remount. 

Begs the question A method to attach leads to the old aluminum can?
 Method One: Use a light spot welder to attach the negative lead to the 
aluminum can?
     If so what type of welding stick do I need?
     If so what kind of flux would be required to weld lead to can?
Method TWO?

Need dig up the suggestions on an un-crimping tool and re-crimping 
methods posted earlier.

Just amazed
Hutch

From spike.dennis at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 24 09:05:38 2009
From: spike.dennis at yahoo.com (Spike Dennis)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:05:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Fw: Vietnam Veteran's Reunion radio operations
Message-ID: <987425.36219.qm@web45711.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: John Vendely jvendely at cfl.rr.com


Gents,
?
THe radio schedule for this weekend's special event station at the Vietnam Veteran's Reunion at Melbourne, FL, is attached below.? We'll try to stick to these times and freqs as much as possible, but there's a lot going on and we could get interrupted from time to time.? So, listen a bit past the stated times.? Also, we'll be calling on 7296 kc USB, and 5403.5 kc as well.? We may pop up on any of these freqs at any time between scheduled calls, of course.? Depends on how many operators show up.? We'll be operating under the special event callsign is K4V.
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Of course, only military gear will be used, including two GRC-122s, PRC-47, etc.? Also for local use, we have?4 BC-611s, 2 PRC-6s, RT-68s, RT-524s, etc. etc.? We would especially appreciate it if you could run some RTTY with 850 or 85 shift, as this is always a big hit at the event.? We have a TT-4 teletype out in front of the tent connected to the radio shelter, so people can see what's printing inside the shelters as we operate.? It draws a remarkably large crowd when in operation.? 
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Please forward the schedule to anyone else you think appropriate.
?
tnx, 73,
?
John K9WT
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CQ DE K4V K4V K4V 
RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY
RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY
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ZCZC
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SPECIAL EVENT STATION K4V
OPERATING FROM THE VIETNAMVETERAN?S REUNION
MELBOURNE, FL, APRIL 24, 25, 26, 2009
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RADIO SCHEDULE FOLLOWS:
RTTY
1500Z, 1700Z, 1900Z: 14.083 MHZ 
2300Z, 0100Z: 7.083 MHZ
45.45 BAUD, 850 SHIFT, MARK LOW (MD-522 STANDARD)
ALTERNATE? FREQUENCIES, 7.083 MHZ, 10.137 MHZ 
ALL RTTY FREQUENCIES ARE DEFINED BY CENTER FREQUENCY.
A CALL-UP TAPE WITH RYS WILL BE SENT 5 MINUTES PRIOR TO NET TIME.
?
USB VOICE
1600Z, 1800Z, 2000Z: 14.226 MHZ
2200Z, 0000Z, 0200Z: 7.190 MHZ
ALL FREQUENCIES WILL MOVE UP OR DOWN IN 1 KHZ STEPS 
AS NECESSARY TO AVOID QRM.
?
FM VOICE, 9 KHZ DEVIATION, 150 HZ TONE, 3KHZ DEVIATION
51.00 MHZ, CONTINUOUS OPERATION
?
DE K4V
?
NNNN


      

From arc5 at ix.netcom.com  Fri Apr 24 10:27:26 2009
From: arc5 at ix.netcom.com (David Stinson)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:27:26 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] ARC-3 J-68 Junction Box
Message-ID: <3B05B50429964AAC8EB884F10530F629@boudreaux>

Someone needed the ARC-3 J-68 junction box?
Please contact me about it.
I'm putting a complete one on Ebay, but have a second with 
just the RX dynamotor available.
73 Dave S.


From jfor at quik.com  Fri Apr 24 10:44:44 2009
From: jfor at quik.com (J. Forster)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 07:44:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] New electrolytic capacitor the size.
In-Reply-To: <49F1B45F.3090503@austin.rr.com>
References: <49F1B45F.3090503@austin.rr.com>
Message-ID: <1061.12.6.201.143.1240584284.squirrel@pop.quik.com>

There is an aluminum solder you might try. I saw some at Home Depot. The
flux is very corrosive, so it needs to be very well cleaned.

FWIW,
-John



> Group -
> Ordered my first electrolytic capacitors in at least  25 years.  Holy
> cow they are at lease 1/3 the volume of the old WWII style caps for the
> same ratings and value!  With the correct tools you could open the old
> cans and easily replace the old contents with the new CAP and then
> remount.
>
> Begs the question A method to attach leads to the old aluminum can?
>  Method One: Use a light spot welder to attach the negative lead to the
> aluminum can?
>      If so what type of welding stick do I need?
>      If so what kind of flux would be required to weld lead to can?
> Method TWO?
>
> Need dig up the suggestions on an un-crimping tool and re-crimping
> methods posted earlier.
>
> Just amazed
> Hutch
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From spike.dennis at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 24 10:59:25 2009
From: spike.dennis at yahoo.com (Spike Dennis)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 07:59:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] New electrolytic capacitor the size.
In-Reply-To: <1061.12.6.201.143.1240584284.squirrel@pop.quik.com>
References: <49F1B45F.3090503@austin.rr.com>
	<1061.12.6.201.143.1240584284.squirrel@pop.quik.com>
Message-ID: <469142.18830.qm@web45716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


The aluminum solder works but is very caustic & once your iron is tinned with it that's about all it's good for from then on.
Try this first, put a drop or two of light machine oil on the place to be soldered. Then scuff up that same area through the oil. Then solder right through the oil.

What makes aluminum so hard to solder to is the fact that it oxidizes immediately when exposed to the air. The oil prevents this oxidation.

KB0SFP
Monitor(all USB): 
3996, 5403.5, 7296, 14342.5, 18157.5



----- Original Message ----
> From: J. Forster <jfor at quik.com>
> To: John Hutchins <olegerityincj at austin.rr.com>
> Cc: milsurplus <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 9:44:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] New electrolytic capacitor the size.
> 
> There is an aluminum solder you might try. I saw some at Home Depot. The
> flux is very corrosive, so it needs to be very well cleaned.
> 
> FWIW,
> -John
> 
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> 
> > Group -
> > Ordered my first electrolytic capacitors in at least? 25 years.? Holy
> > cow they are at lease 1/3 the volume of the old WWII style caps for the
> > same ratings and value!? With the correct tools you could open the old
> > cans and easily replace the old contents with the new CAP and then
> > remount.
> >
> > Begs the question A method to attach leads to the old aluminum can?
> >? Method One: Use a light spot welder to attach the negative lead to the
> > aluminum can?
> >? ? ? If so what type of welding stick do I need?
> >? ? ? If so what kind of flux would be required to weld lead to can?
> > Method TWO?
> >
> > Need dig up the suggestions on an un-crimping tool and re-crimping
> > methods posted earlier.
> >
> > Just amazed
> > Hutch
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From robandpj at earthlink.net  Fri Apr 24 12:30:55 2009
From: robandpj at earthlink.net (Rob Flory)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:30:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Electrolytic refill
Message-ID: <14755730.1240590656844.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi,
What I have done is drill tiny holes in the plastic bottom of the can, bring the leads of the modern caps out through the holes, and use the original terminals to join them to the set's wiring.  Bypasses the whole aluminum business.  Sometimes the rivet that holds the terminal to the plastic bottom will pass the wire. 

RF

From jydsk at tds.net  Fri Apr 24 12:35:18 2009
From: jydsk at tds.net (Steve Hilsz)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:35:18 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] TDZ Restoration?
Message-ID: <D51EFF8651804FD5B274D68CE30ADB01@warehouse>

Anybody out there doing work on a museum ship with TDZ radio? I found some 
spare parts (Auto Tune apparatus, Sylsyn Channel Indicator, Milliammeter, 
antenna relay, and so on).

Steve Hilsz
jydsk at tds.net


From ersmar at verizon.net  Fri Apr 24 16:37:31 2009
From: ersmar at verizon.net (Gene Smar)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:37:31 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] My afternoon
Message-ID: <24223173.61499.1240605451201.JavaMail.root@vms063.mailsrvcs.net>


From telegrapher at att.net  Fri Apr 24 22:47:16 2009
From: telegrapher at att.net (telegrapher at att.net)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:47:16 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] R-388 and 51J-3 rx.
Message-ID: <042520090247.2599.49F279B40004043800000A2722216125569B0A02D29B9B0EBF9D0A089F0E9D090A040A9B@att.net>

Seems to me that some time back somewhere i saw a list of known or ranges or quantities of R-388 and 51J- type receivers.  Anyone remember that?  I don't know if it had the contract numbers associated with it or not.  I'd like to get a copy of it whoever or wherever it happens to be.  What can i do?

Thanks

Larry
W0OGH


From hernlem at gmail.com  Sat Apr 25 00:10:07 2009
From: hernlem at gmail.com (Brad Hernlem)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:10:07 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] RD-142/UN
Message-ID: <49F28D1F.2050905@gmail.com>

Anyone have any info on this tape recorder? Is there a manual on-line?

Brad
KG6IOE

From nu4g.radio at gmail.com  Sat Apr 25 21:52:17 2009
From: nu4g.radio at gmail.com (Tom Norris)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:52:17 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] A $200 PRC-74(*)?  On Ebay?
Message-ID: <79A17FBC-612A-47EA-9FF5-863A00B87716@gmail.com>


With no bidders?   What's up with this?
Item 110379355006
(no-suffix , 2-12 Mhz)

Tom NU4G

From n2lxm at juno.com  Sat Apr 25 22:04:02 2009
From: n2lxm at juno.com (n2lxm at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 22:04:02 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] PRC-74
Message-ID: <20090425.220404.3112.2.n2lxm@juno.com>

Looks like an " A " model. I be leave the " B " and " C " model went to
18 Mhz. This is the same person I got the  accesories kit from.


                                Jeff N2LXM
                  AMATEUR RADIO OPERATOR
                                AMERICAN
                                  PATRIOT
                  Proud Father of two US MARINES
____________________________________________________________
Click here to find the right business program for you and take your career to the next level. 
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTESUTL8I5THHlBgawIRFpDNIEnctvWvpbujIxnqTZMYbVu8jFLV2A/

From spike.dennis at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 25 23:05:04 2009
From: spike.dennis at yahoo.com (Spike Dennis)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:05:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] PRC-74
In-Reply-To: <20090425.220404.3112.2.n2lxm@juno.com>
References: <20090425.220404.3112.2.n2lxm@juno.com>
Message-ID: <611669.80846.qm@web45706.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


Market has been flooded with 2-12mc 74's from Greece & Austria(like this one) he has steadily been lowering his prices(& shipping which is now $90.00 vice $300). This combined with the dubious reputation of the seller(RF-com) might spell cheep PRC-74.

KB0SFP
Monitor(all USB): 
3996, 5403.5, 7296, 14342.5, 18157.5



----- Original Message ----
> From: "n2lxm at juno.com" <n2lxm at juno.com>
> To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 9:04:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] PRC-74
> 
> Looks like an " A " model. I be leave the " B " and " C " model went to
> 18 Mhz. This is the same person I got the? accesories kit from..
> 
> 
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Jeff N2LXM
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? AMATEUR RADIO OPERATOR
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? AMERICAN
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? PATRIOT
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Proud Father of two US MARINES
> ____________________________________________________________
> Click here to find the right business program for you and take your career to 
> the next level. 
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From nu4g.radio at gmail.com  Sun Apr 26 00:18:53 2009
From: nu4g.radio at gmail.com (Tom Norris)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:18:53 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] Here's something you don't see every day
Message-ID: <39AC6585-36B6-40C7-8F47-25BF3A374E97@gmail.com>

LF coupler for the ART-13 seen in the bay....
item 130301311365


Tom

From signetics at netzero.com  Sun Apr 26 11:51:14 2009
From: signetics at netzero.com (PHIL)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:51:14 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] BC348
Message-ID: <000b01c9c686$db865120$4d3e4845@b4g4z8>

A friend is restoring a BC-348 and needs a power transformer. I have
a transformer that will put out 230volts at 50ma. Is this enough
currant for a BC-348. The BC-348 will not be powering accessories.
Phil
____________________________________________________________
Easy-to-use, advanced features, flexible phone systems.  Click here for more info.
http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/BLSrjpYdhtOmKvBhtQiNQf9LMWFDDkNT9OIGg5uy3W5dhkYUjKCtCY6sKKs/

From Military1944 at aol.com  Sun Apr 26 12:07:51 2009
From: Military1944 at aol.com (Military1944 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:07:51 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] Interstage coupling transformer
Message-ID: <bfa.3c87732d.3725e0d7@aol.com>

 
Interstage coupling transformer
 
Would anyone have a valve interstage coupling transformer spare?, ie  
driver ht primary to push pull output stage,  centre tap secondary or  dual 
secondary. Looking for 4:1 if possible.
 
Many thanks, Ben.


From atasker at ix.netcom.com  Sun Apr 26 12:16:56 2009
From: atasker at ix.netcom.com (Alan Tasker)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:16:56 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] PRC-77 variants on that E-place
Message-ID: <E1Ly72e-0005LL-UZ@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

There have been and still are a number of variants of the PRC-77 on 
that E-place. Here is some info on what they are. If anyone has more 
info, please let us know.

-- RT-3841/PRC-77 from a Peruvian seller. Standard PRC-77 frequency 
range (30-74.975) except in 25 kHz steps. Tadiran built. 2 out of 3 
that I ordered worked from the get go. Handset connectors need a good 
cleaning, and battery connector needs replacement in some (Steve 
Haney hopefully has some left to sell). Comes w/o battery box. The 
modules are mostly the same as a standard PRC-77. Unique modules 
needed to effect the 25 kHz spacing are labeled A3xx, i.e. A22 became 
A322. I have a chart in Microsoft Excel that lists all the module 
numbers and functions for the PRC-25, 77, and two variants. Yell if 
you want a copy.

-- RT-505/PRC-25T from Greek sellers (My guess is that if they 
advertise as not tested, it doesn't work). This is a standard PRC-77 
(i.e. all transistorized) except for a frequency range of 26-70.950 
MHz. It covers 10 meter FM, especially 29.6 MHz (although wide band 
vs amateur narrow band). Unique modules are A1xx.

-- Does anyone know what Tadiran PRC-77 look-alike used unique 
modules A2xx? Was there an A4xx?

-- French ER.95.B, (TR-PP-13), 26-71.95, Looks like H-33 handsets 
will fit? Might be more narrow band than US sets.

-- P/PRC-425 from a Portuguese seller, looks brand new, but if you 
look closely, you can see wear on the outside edges of the top 
handset connector. Not big wear, but enough to tell you the unit was 
used at least a little. They have a detachable front panel. Insides 
are hermetic. I can not get mine to draw current, so I need to look 
for the secret. Also, frequency range is not known, although Janes 
says it was 41-51 MHz, but front panel switches are 0 to 3 left most 
switch, and 0 to 9 for next two switches.

Does anyone have any additional information.


From jfor at quik.com  Sun Apr 26 12:31:13 2009
From: jfor at quik.com (J. Forster)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:31:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Museum display ships
In-Reply-To: <20090423.155955.3720.0.wctaylor@juno.com>
References: <20090423.155955.3720.0.wctaylor@juno.com>
Message-ID: <1342.12.6.201.81.1240763473.squirrel@pop.quik.com>

This came in today and I thought it might interest some here:
-John

===============

Posted for AD3F who's having son access anomalies:

Gents:

     Yesterday I spent the afternoon with my two grown daughters visiting in
Balmer's Inner Harbor.  Among other things, we all roamed around onboard
the USS
Torsk (SS 423, http://www.usstorsk.org/  <http://www.usstorsk.org/%C2%A0>
) and
the US Sloop-of-War Constellation ( http://www.constellation.org/ .)  The
girls
marveled at the cramped quarters on both vessels, but I enjoyed the radio
room
on the Torsk much better.

73 de
Gene Smar  AD3F
(For those of you outside the MD/DC area, Balmer = Baltimore in local
parlance.)

-- 
Al Klase - N3FRQ
Jersey City, NJ



From seba at libero.it  Sun Apr 26 15:19:35 2009
From: seba at libero.it (Sebastiano Scorbati)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:19:35 +0200
Subject: [Milsurplus] R:  PRC-77 variants on that E-place
In-Reply-To: <E1Ly72e-0005LL-UZ@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <002601c9c6a3$f015f6f0$0e00000a@GX260>

Hi Alan,
actually the ER-95 is not a PRC-77 clone or variant: though strongly
inspired by the PRC-77, it is a different design on itself.

Originally engineered by THOMSON-CFS in France, it has also been built
under license in Italy for the Italian Army by ELMER S.P.A. in Pomezia,
near the city of Rome; and as far as I know it also got issued by the
Portuguese Army.

The channel selector has 50Khz steps like a PRC-25/PRC-77, and the
handset is know as H-33F/PT: actually like an H-33 but having an olive
drab body and a coiled cord:
http://www.radiosurplus.it/image-accradio/H33PTverde.jpg

The VMARS Newsletter and AC7ZL's website have some more info in English
about this transceiver:
http://www.vmarsmanuals.co.uk/newsletter_articles/trpp13.pdf
http://www.hpfriedrichs.com/rr-tr-vp-13.htm

As far as I know, the Italian Army employed the ER-95 in 3 different
configurations:
- RV3/13/P: in manpack configuration with a 24v battery box plus short
(AN-225) and long (AN-224) antennas
- RV3/13/V: in vehicular configuration with the standard 2W output, a
BA-301 vehicle power-supply and a fixed mount (SP-203), connected to an
AF amplifier with an integral interphone system
- RV4/213/V: same as a RV3/13/V but with an AM-215 power amplifier
giving a selectable 1,5/10/20W output

There was also a receiving only variant (R-95), usually employed as an
auxiliary receiver onboard command tanks in the armoured forces.

Regards,
Sebastiano - IZ2NYZ

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net] Per conto di Alan Tasker
Inviato: domenica 26 aprile 2009 18.17
A: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net; armyradios at yahoogroups.com
Oggetto: [Milsurplus] PRC-77 variants on that E-place


> There have been and still are a number of variants of the PRC-77 on
> that E-place. Here is some info on what they are. If anyone has more
> info, please let us know.

> French ER.95.B, (TR-PP-13), 26-71.95, Looks like H-33 handsets
> will fit? Might be more narrow band than US sets.



From WA5CAB at cs.com  Sun Apr 26 16:10:51 2009
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:10:51 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] R:  PRC-77 variants on that E-place
Message-ID: <c44.2e3bbb98.372619cb@cs.com>

US made H-33F/PT also have coiled cords, although the bodies are black like 
the earlier models.

In a message dated 4/26/2009 2:21:33 PM Central Daylight Time, 
seba at libero.it writes: 
> The channel selector has 50Khz steps like a PRC-25/PRC-77, and the
> handset is know as H-33F/PT: actually like an H-33 but having an olive
> drab body and a coiled cord:
> http://www.radiosurplus.it/image-accradio/H33PTverde.jpg

Robert & Susan Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480

From kargo_cult at msn.com  Mon Apr 27 05:38:46 2009
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:38:46 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] SB2C-1
References: <mailman.41.1240761614.23237.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV171826A79F92590AA81C1E4700@phx.gbl>

Saw this in "Profile Aircraft 124 Curtiss SB2C-1 
Helldiver" Sept. 1982: 

"In the spring [1942] Curtiss-Wright was informed
that 3000 additional [to 578] would be ordered for the 
Navy, the contract change being signed in June [1942].
Meanwhile radar (ASB), IFF (ABD/ABK), and new radio
(ATC and ARB) installations were designed and mocked
up for  approval....December 1942 saw the first SB2C-1s
delivered to a fleet squadron...The results were sufficiently
bad for the Yorktown skipper to recommend that contract
cancellation be considered....VB-6 and VB-4 were then 
issued SBDs to meet their combat schedule...
On 21 October 1943....first [SB2C-1] combat operations....

I just thought it kind of interesting that the ATC was being
installed this early in WW2.
-Hue Miller 


From kargo_cult at msn.com  Mon Apr 27 05:54:27 2009
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:54:27 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] GO-9 pages
References: <mailman.41.1240761614.23237.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV9C86DFA45A16F95A4BC5BE4700@phx.gbl>

I have just a few pages copied from the GO-9
manual, with schematics, voltages tables, and
such. I don't have a GO-9 and no wants to have
one, so this envelope i will mail without cost to
anyone with a GO-9. You could perhaps use
these pages while working on the GO-9 so as
not to slobber solder or gouge the pages of 
the actual manual. -Hue Miller 

From w5jdy at intergate.com  Sun Apr 26 19:01:55 2009
From: w5jdy at intergate.com (Joe Walden)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:01:55 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] BC-639 Military Receiver
Message-ID: <006e01c9c6c2$ff1b3ce0$4d0e6144@ok.cox.net>

Hello all Military Surplus reflector members from Joe w5jdy in Okla.
73069....   Just a request to see if anyone has a BC-639 WWII Military UHF
AM Receiver they would like to part with??   Also maybe I can help you with
something you want???    Joe 405-321-4717


From nu4g.radio at gmail.com  Sun Apr 26 23:51:20 2009
From: nu4g.radio at gmail.com (Tom Norris)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:51:20 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] PRC-104 vs PRC-104B
Message-ID: <9F79F785-3EB9-4CEA-830C-7787403BE9A9@gmail.com>

Other than the obvious physical differences in the front panel, what  
are the differences between the RT-1209 and 1209A?  What about the  
RT-1444 version of the radio?

Just curious.  Searching online I've not found much info, unless I've  
overlooked it.

thanks and 73

Tom NU4G

From w4thq at cox.net  Mon Apr 27 00:15:27 2009
From: w4thq at cox.net (w4thq at cox.net)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 0:15:27 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] SB2C-1
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV171826A79F92590AA81C1E4700@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20090427001527.TPUUT.59849.imail@eastrmwml47>

See "Arthur Collins, Radio Wizard" by B. W. Stearns, pp 56 - 57.

The ART-13 development model was ready in early December 1941, was tested in an SBD shorty thereafter and was probably under contract early in 1942.  It was provided to the Navy during 1942.

W4THQ, John


---- Hue Miller <kargo_cult at msn.com> wrote: 
> Saw this in "Profile Aircraft 124 Curtiss SB2C-1 
> Helldiver" Sept. 1982: 
> 
> "In the spring [1942] Curtiss-Wright was informed
> that 3000 additional [to 578] would be ordered for the 
> Navy, the contract change being signed in June [1942].
> Meanwhile radar (ASB), IFF (ABD/ABK), and new radio
> (ATC and ARB) installations were designed and mocked
> up for  approval....December 1942 saw the first SB2C-1s
> delivered to a fleet squadron...The results were sufficiently
> bad for the Yorktown skipper to recommend that contract
> cancellation be considered....VB-6 and VB-4 were then 
> issued SBDs to meet their combat schedule...
> On 21 October 1943....first [SB2C-1] combat operations....
> 
> I just thought it kind of interesting that the ATC was being
> installed this early in WW2.
> -Hue Miller 
> 
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From robandpj at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 27 03:38:30 2009
From: robandpj at earthlink.net (Robert Flory)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 03:38:30 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Searchlight use
Message-ID: <410-22009412773830109@earthlink.net>

Someone asked.

Here is some relevant info.  They had a 60" light going this weekend.  
http://www.fortmiles.org/firepower/support/sltplan.html

Fort Mott, NJ also has a large and functional light.

RF

From whitaker at pa.net  Sun Apr 26 17:50:56 2009
From: whitaker at pa.net (C. Whitaker)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:50:56 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] BC-639 Military Receiver
References: <006e01c9c6c2$ff1b3ce0$4d0e6144@ok.cox.net>
Message-ID: <002e01c9c6b9$143d4960$2101a8c0@your6jnhhu0520>

Yes.
Looks excellent but no RA-42 that works.
Have RA-42 with power transformer burnt.
Located in Soth Central PA.  UPS is best.
If you can use it let me know.
73  Clete



From brooke at pacific.net  Mon Apr 27 10:13:27 2009
From: brooke at pacific.net (Brooke Clarke)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:13:27 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] PRC-104 vs PRC-104B
In-Reply-To: <mailman.6609.1240833426.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.6609.1240833426.9852.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <49F5BD87.1000108@pacific.net>

Hi Tom:

I have some info at:
http://www.prc68.com/I/PRC104.shtml#104v

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
http://www.prc68.com


From jfor at quik.com  Mon Apr 27 11:58:11 2009
From: jfor at quik.com (J. Forster)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:58:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Google Something Today
In-Reply-To: <D51EFF8651804FD5B274D68CE30ADB01@warehouse>
References: <D51EFF8651804FD5B274D68CE30ADB01@warehouse>
Message-ID: <1168.12.6.201.208.1240847891.squirrel@pop.quik.com>

www.google.com

-John


From ka1kaq at gmail.com  Mon Apr 27 13:03:23 2009
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:03:23 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] NEAR-Fest V - May 1st-2nd 2009 - Deerfield NH
	Fairgrounds
Message-ID: <9ccb8c510904271003t25a32881tf6425d12115d1286@mail.gmail.com>

Starting our *Third Year* at this venerable site with a great group of
folks both working and attending.

Here's the link to the main site for those who don't already have it bookmarked:

http://near-fest.com/

Along with the usual suspects providing forums and workshops this
year, we are joined by one of amateur radio's legendary figures: Wayne
Green. For additional information, visit the Events Schedule:

http://near-fest.com/index.php?topic=426.0

The schedule with site map is available for download and will also be
handed out at the gate.

Rain or shine, you don't want to miss it!


~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

From w4pnt at comcast.net  Mon Apr 27 15:06:48 2009
From: w4pnt at comcast.net (Dee Almquist)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:06:48 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] WILL TRADE OFF T631/GRC-14 STATION
Message-ID: <49F60248.7080308@comcast.net>

Fellow Radio Techs
Its not because of lack of interest on my part but lack of time I've 
decided to trade off my GRC-14 station. TRADE? YES. I'm looking for 
authentic / real RAIL ROAD POCKET WATCHES or certain hi grade wrist 
watches. I will consider certain marine chronometers. NO JUNK but need 
not be working well. I want untouched pieces worked over by an amateur 
watch repairman (not refering to fellow hams, hi). Another trade I would 
be interested is a Collins 75A4, untouched/working. Tech work is not a 
problem for me. Perhaps some one might have a Collins KWS-1 orphan power 
supply or parts? This could be part of the trade.

What I have is an R-808 rx, working, the tx power supply, & transmitter. 
I have no plugs or cables but know where to get plugs, mic & few other 
needs for same. I have a manual that is being copied (my cost is $75 on 
that alone!). Condition, judging from the tx, is very clean. The tx is 
the only unit I can lift (w/ sons help. 180#!!). No way can I lift the 
pwr sup out, about 300#. Outside is clean, meters all there & look ok 
but outside will need a bath & plugs/pins cleaned. It appears nobody has 
been inside the tx so no mods, unless it was done @ depot.

I worked a trade w/ a CB'r who was ready to  destroy the tx & supply for 
the parts & I just could not see this nice old station going this way. 
Basically thats the only reason I have it & I had to do some "deep 
trading" to get the station.

NOTE: I WILL NOT SHIP THIS STATION. We're talking about 600 # of station 
& some strong guys! I live in Waynesboro, Va. in Shenandoah Valley half 
way down the state, 10mi E. of Staunton, Va, off I-81. I have pics for 
serious folks.

If interested lets talk........
73 es Dee


From Military1944 at aol.com  Mon Apr 27 16:37:04 2009
From: Military1944 at aol.com (Military1944 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:37:04 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] Interstage driver transformer.. cancel request
Message-ID: <c1a.58744da2.37277170@aol.com>

Interstage driver transformer.. cancel request
 
Cancel my request for a driver transformer. Being the impatient type I  
decided to revamp the rx, I replaced one of the output tubes with a pre amp and 
 thus eliminated the need for the transformer. Sets now working fine and 
more  than enough audio from the one 6F6 output tube.  

The only thing I need now are two of the on/off toggle switches with a  
small forked lever. National used them on the bfo on/off on the HRO and on this 
 set there are 4, luckily I have 2 already.
 
So, if anyone can help with a couple of toggles, else I'll be forced to  
replace one pair with a wafer switch !!
 
cheers, Ben.
 


From densmore at ntl.sympatico.ca  Mon Apr 27 17:32:18 2009
From: densmore at ntl.sympatico.ca (Keith Densmore)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:32:18 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] CR-88A
Message-ID: <AC373A55F35C481FBE39865F2B7DC46E@keitha8b21f77c>

Hello Group,
I recently acquired a very nice  CR-88A which is the dual diversity version 
of the AR-88D.  Mine came without an ID tag.

Does anyone on the list either have a picture of the ID tag for a CR-88A or 
know the location of  same ore would be able to scan theirs  for me?
The other question I have, has anyone seen the rack mounted external S meter 
the system apparently used? Is the meter the same one used in AR-88's? Does 
anyone know of a picture of the same on the web?
Thanks all, 73,
Keith ve3ts
 


From w7qho at aol.com  Mon Apr 27 18:28:09 2009
From: w7qho at aol.com (mac)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:28:09 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] WILL TRADE OFF T631/GRC-14 STATION
In-Reply-To: <49F60248.7080308@comcast.net>
References: <49F60248.7080308@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <61D07D4C-323B-4B12-A6C4-9561357FDAB7@aol.com>

Unique opportunity here maybe. Never heard of anyone getting one of  
these on the air with one of these 600 # monsters.  One wonders why  
the Corps didn't go with the GRC-19 instead of a new development; just  
had to do their own thing apparently.   I have an R808.  Works OK but  
the R392 is better.

Dennis D.  W7QHO
Glendale, CA

On Apr 27, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Dee Almquist wrote:

> Fellow Radio Techs
> Its not because of lack of interest on my part but lack of time I've
> decided to trade off my GRC-14 station. ...........

From cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org  Tue Apr 28 05:58:19 2009
From: cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org (Marty Reynolds)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:58:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Museum display ships
In-Reply-To: <1342.12.6.201.81.1240763473.squirrel@pop.quik.com>
References: <20090423.155955.3720.0.wctaylor@juno.com>
	<1342.12.6.201.81.1240763473.squirrel@pop.quik.com>
Message-ID: <50725.216.49.171.26.1240912699.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>


>
> Gene Smar  AD3F
> (For those of you outside the MD/DC area, Balmer = Baltimore in local
> parlance.)
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> --
> Al Klase - N3FRQ
> Jersey City, NJ
>


But wait, that's not all.  Balmer's also pres. Microsoft where all's
perfeshunal

From olegerityincj at austin.rr.com  Tue Apr 28 06:43:15 2009
From: olegerityincj at austin.rr.com (John Hutchins)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:43:15 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] BC348
In-Reply-To: <000b01c9c686$db865120$4d3e4845@b4g4z8>
References: <000b01c9c686$db865120$4d3e4845@b4g4z8>
Message-ID: <49F6DDC3.50407@austin.rr.com>

Phil -
Need 220VDC @0.70ma max
220V typically goes across a coil/choke to ground ,  found in the audio 
pack, with the audio transformer a .05uf cap and audio transformer.  The 
coil develops about -17V above ground @ 0.050 ma typical.  Get a schematic.
Later
Hutch

PHIL wrote:
> A friend is restoring a BC-348 and needs a power transformer. I have
> a transformer that will put out 230volts at 50ma. Is this enough
> currant for a BC-348. The BC-348 will not be powering accessories.
> Phil
> ____________________________________________________________
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From jfor at quik.com  Tue Apr 28 11:18:49 2009
From: jfor at quik.com (J. Forster)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:18:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Museum display ships
In-Reply-To: <50725.216.49.171.26.1240912699.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>
References: <20090423.155955.3720.0.wctaylor@juno.com>
	<1342.12.6.201.81.1240763473.squirrel@pop.quik.com>
	<50725.216.49.171.26.1240912699.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>
Message-ID: <1226.12.6.201.23.1240931929.squirrel@pop.quik.com>

>From what I've heard, Balmer is interested in aviation and less so
electronics. Does anyone really know?

-John

==========


>> Gene Smar  AD3F
>> (For those of you outside the MD/DC area, Balmer = Baltimore in local
>> parlance.)
>>
>> --
>> Al Klase - N3FRQ
>> Jersey City, NJ
>>
>
>
> But wait, that's not all.  Balmer's also pres. Microsoft where all's
> perfeshunal
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From nick at virhistory.com  Tue Apr 28 11:25:21 2009
From: nick at virhistory.com (Nick England)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:25:21 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] boatanchor transport from North Jersey to Dayton
	hamfest?
Message-ID: <9DD84D8C119147C5B5CEEACBB6F6CCE3@Heathkit2>

 
Just bought a $10 boatanchor on the bay - now need to get it without
spending 6X that on shipping - is anyone coming to the Dayton hamfest from
northern NJ who could help out? - the item (Navy RD-110 rack-mounted Morse
code recorder) is in Ringwood NJ, about 30 min from Paterson.

thanks,
Nick K4NYW
Chapel Hill NC
www.navy-radio.com 



From ianmwilson73 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 16:13:57 2009
From: ianmwilson73 at gmail.com (Ian Wilson)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:13:57 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] BC-1073A wavemeter
Message-ID: <7de2d65c0904281313n3b94df8eia195e07646d0566f@mail.gmail.com>

I'm helping a local SK estate. A BC-1073A (150-210MHz wavemeter, with
eye tube indicator; radar
control unit) is available. Moderate condition (would probably clean
up nicely). Pictures available.

Local pickup from Brentwood, LA area or shipping might be possible.

I will relay offers, etc, to the seller.

73, ian K3IMW

From jfor at quik.com  Tue Apr 28 17:43:16 2009
From: jfor at quik.com (J. Forster)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:43:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Milsurplus] OT: Somali Pirates
In-Reply-To: <50725.216.49.171.26.1240912699.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>
References: <20090423.155955.3720.0.wctaylor@juno.com>
	<1342.12.6.201.81.1240763473.squirrel@pop.quik.com>
	<50725.216.49.171.26.1240912699.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>
Message-ID: <1391.12.6.201.81.1240954996.squirrel@pop.quik.com>

Forwarded,
-John

==================

Your "Real" story is not exactly the way I heard it, and probably
has a few political twists thrown in to stir the pot.  Rather than
me trying to correct it, I'll just tell you what I heard from
contacts at NSWC Norfolk and SOCOM Tampa.

First, I'll orient you.  In Africa from Djibouti at the southern
end of the Red Sea eastward through the Gulf of Aden to Cape
Guardafui at the easternmost tip of Africa (known as the Horn of Africa),
before you stand out into the Indian Ocean, is a roughly 600 nm transit.
This transit is comparable in distance to that from the mouth of the
Mississippi at New Orleans to the tip of Florida at Key West.
However, the east-African 600 nm is infested with Somali pirates.

Ships turning southward at the Horn of Africa transit the Sea
Lane of Commerce along the east coast of Somalia because a strong
current flows southward there.  It's about 1,500 nm to Mombassa,
which is just south of the equator in Kenya.  This transit is comparable in
distance to the transit from Portland, ME, down the east coast of the
US to Miami, FL.  In other words, the stretch of ocean being patrolled
by our naval forces off the coast of Somalia is comparable to that in
the Gulf of Mexico from the mouth of the Mississippi River east to
Miami and then up the eastern seaboard to Maine.

Second, you should know that the distance from our Naval Operating Base in
Norfolk, VA, east across the Atlantic to North Africa, thence
across the Med to Suez in Egypt, thence southward down the Red Sea to
Djibouti at the Gulf of Aden, thence eastward to round Cape Guardafui
at the easternmost tip of Africa, and thence southerly some 300 miles
down the east cost of Somali out into the high seas of the Indian
Ocean to the position of MV ALABAMA is a little more than 7,000 nm.
Local time at this position is nine hours ahead of EST.  A C-17
transport averaging a little better than 400 kts (SOG) takes nearly
18 hours to make this trip.

Late Thursday night, a team of Navy SEALs from NSWC (Naval
Surface Warfare Center) Norfolk parachuted from such a C-17 into the black
water of the Indian Ocean, close to our 40,000 ton amphibious assault
ship USS BOXER (LHD 4), the flagship of our Expeditionary Strike
Group in the Area Of Responsibility.  They not only parachuted in with all
of their "equipment"; they also had their own rigid-hull inflatable
boats (RHIBs) with them.  They entered BOXER's landing dock, debarked,
and staged for the rescue -- all on Thursday night.

The SEAL team's quick response -- departing ready-alert within
less than 4 hours from Norfolk -- surprised POTUS's staff.  President
Obama was miffed that the SEALs arrived on-scene before "his" people
did.  Reportedly, he had asked his staff, "Will 'my' FBI people get
there before the Navy does?"  BHO wanted the FBI to negotiate the
release of Captain Phillips peacefully.  He did not trust the
military, whom he regarded as "Bush" people.  The FBI warned him
that its people were not trained and equipped to operate at sea,
whereas the Navy SEALs were; but the POTUS insisted.  Anyway, it took
the FBI almost 12 hours to assemble a team and get it packed to go.

The FBI's passenger jet took nearly 14 hours at 500+ knots to get
to Djibouti.  BOXER'S helos transported the FBI team from there to
the ship.  When POTUS's FBI team arrived, the Navy SEALs were already
there, staged, and ready to act.  Before the FBI team arrived, early
Friday morning, the Navy's On-Scene Commander (OSC) requested
permission to rescue Captain Phillips by taking out the pirates, but
his request was denied.

The FBI snipers had never practiced shooting from one rolling,
pitching, yawing, surging, swaying, heaving platform, at a target on
an independently moving platform floating on the high sea.  However,
generations of Navy snipers have practiced this.  Admiral Nelson
trained Marines to shoot muskets from a ship's rigging.  Ironically,
he himself was killed at sea, in HMS VICTORY, at the Battle of
Trafalgar, by a rifleman who shot him from the rigging of a French
ship.

When I was training at USNA in 1955, a Small Arms Training Unit
was based at our Little Creek amphib base.  Now, Navy SEALs -- in
particular SEAL Team Six (The "DevGru") based at NSWC (Naval Surface
Warfare Center) at Little Creek -- do that training; and they hone
their skills daily.  Shooting small arms from a ship is a special
art. When you are "in the bubble" and "in tune" with the harmonic
motions, you are able to put three .308 slugs inside the head of a
quarter at 100 meters, day or night, even behind a camouflage net.
Our monocular scopes can "see" heat and draw a bead on it.  SEALs are
absolutely expert at this, and have video clips to prove it.

Now to the rescue of Captain Phillips --

Early Wednesday morning, 4/8/2009, MV ALABAMA was in the IO
about 300 miles off the (east) coast of Somalia en route to Mombassa.
Pirates threatened her with weapons.  MV ALABAMA's captain made a distress
call by radio, and ordered his Engineer to shut down the ship's main
engines and also the electrical generators -- in ourlingo, to "go dark and
cold."  He told his crew what was happening,and ordered them to go to an
out-of-the-way compartment and lock themselves in -- from the inside.  He
would stay in the pilot house to "negotiate" with the pirates.

The pirates boarded, captured the Captain, and ordered him to
start the engines.  He said he would order his Engineer to do so, and he
called down to Engine Control on the internal communication system,
but got no answer.  The lead pirate ordered two of his four men to
go down and find him and get the engines started.

Inside a ship with no lights is the definition of dark.  The people
who work and live there have the advantage.  They jumped the two
pirates in a dark passageway.  Both pirates lost their weapons, but one
managed to scramble away.  The other, they tied up; they put tape over his
mouth and held a knife at his throat.

Other members of the crew opened the drain cocks on the pirates'
boat, and cast it adrift.  It foundered and sunk.  The scrambling
pirate made it back to the pilot house and reported to his boss.  The
pirates forced the Captain to launch a rescue boat (not a life boat).  As
he was lowering this boat, the crew appeared with the other pirate and
negotiated a prisoner exchange.  But the crew let its prisoner go too
soon, and the pirates kept the captain.  But the captain purposefully had
lowered the rescue boat such that its lines would foul.

The pirates jumped into a lifeboat but, as they released it, the
captain jumped into the water.  They fired at him, made him stop, and
pulled him out of the water.

Now, as night fell in the vastness of the Indian Ocean, we had a
classic "Mexican" standoff:  A life-boat adrift with no propulsion
except oars and paddles; and, a huge (by comparison) Motor Vessel
Container Ship adrift with a crew that was not going to leave its
captain behind.  The pirates were under the lifeboat's shelter-
covering, holding the captain as their hostage.  The crew hunkered
down in their ship waiting for the Navy to arrive.

USS BAINBRIDGE (DDG 96) responded to ALABAMA's distress call.  At
max. sustainable speed, she arrived on-scene the next day -- that is,
in the dark of early Thursday morning.  BAINBRIDGE arrived quietly
and slowly, a darkened ship with no lights.  In a recorded interview, the
Chief Engineer of MV ALABAMA described BAINBRIDGE's arrival.  He said
it was "a **** to see the Navy slide in there like a greyhound!";
that, as she slipped in closer and he saw the "Stars and Stripes"
flying from her masthead, he choked up; and that it was the "proudest
moment of my life."

Earlier in the day, one of the U.S. Navy's Maritime Patrol
Aircraft,
   a fixed wing P3C, flew over to recon the scene.  It dropped a buoy
with a radio so that a Navy interpreter could talk with the pirates.
However, when BAINBRIDGE arrived, the pirates thought that the
radio was a homing beacon, so they threw it overboard.  They wanted a
satellite telephone so they could call home for help.  Apparently, they
didn't know that we could monitor their 'phone call.

MV ALABAMA gave them a satellite phone.  They called someone in
Eyl, Somalia, who said he'd come out right away, with other hostages, in
two pirated ships.  Right -- and the tooth fairy will let you have sex
with her.  So ESG watched Eyl for any ships standing out.

SEAL Team Six had briefed the OSC (Commander Castellano, CO
BAINBRIDGE) on how they could rescue the captain from the life boat
with "Combat Swimmers"; but that plan had been denied by POTUS because it
involved killing the pirates.  When the FBI negotiators arrived on-
scene, they talked the pirates into sending their wounded man over for
treatment. This was Saturday morning.  Saturday afternoon, the SEALs sent
their RHIB with food and water, but mainly to recon the lifeboat.  The
pirates shot at the RHIB.  The SEALs, having been fired upon, asked again
for permission to take out the pirates; but again their request was
denied.

The FBI negotiators told the pirates that bad weather was approaching. 
Storm clouds could, in fact, be seen on the horizon. At dusk, BAINBRIDGE
offered to tow the lifeboat to shore.  The pirates agreed to accept a tow.
 BAINBRIDGE towed them in its wake at 30 meters
-- exactly 30 meters, exactly the distance at which the SEALs
practice shooting skills.

The lifeboat, riding comfortably bow-down on BAINBRIDGE's wake-
wave ("rooster tail"), moved very regularly, sinusoidally, with a 17-
second period.  At half-period (8.5 s) intervals, it was stationary.
The thermal-IR monocular scopes on the SEALs' .308 Mark 11 Mod 0 H&K
sniper rifles imaged their targets very clearly.  The pirates in the
were sitting ducks.  The only complication was that the plexiglass
window in the lifeboat's cover would have to be taken out first so
that it would not deflect the .308 bullets.  So, one of the four
snipers would take out the window with a wad-cutter bullet a fraction of
second before the three other snipers took their kill-shots.  There would
be no change in sight-picture when the window blew out.

BHO's "whiz kids" knew as well as the Navy hierarchy, including
CO BAINBRIDGE and CO SEAL Team Six, that the law -- in Article 19 of
Appendix L in the "Convention of the High Seas" -- states that the
CO of a US Ship on the high seas is obligated to respond to a
distress signal from any flagged ship (US or otherwise), and to protect
the life and property thereof, when _he_ deems it to be in IMMINENT
DANGER.

So "imminent danger" was Captain Castellano's call and he was duty-bound
to act; he did not need and he did not ask for permission.

At first light (from the east) on Easter Sunday morning, the
pirates saw that they were being towed further out to sea (instead of
westward toward land).  They were upset :-) and the wounded pirate
demanded to be returned to the lifeboat, but there would be no more
negotiations.  The four snipers "in the bubble" "unlocked."

When the pirate holding Captain Philips raised his gun to
Philips'head, IMMINENT DANGER was observed.  This observation was noted in
the Log, and CO BAINBRIDGE ordered "WEAPONS RELEASED."

I can hear the echo in my earpiece now.  "On my count, 3, 2, 1,
POP (out goes the window) and BANG! (three simultaneous head-shots).
Game over.  Navy 3, Pirates 0.





From nick at virhistory.com  Wed Apr 29 12:38:58 2009
From: nick at virhistory.com (Nick England)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:38:58 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] URC-32 rack, blower, cables needed
Message-ID: <2AF906A5F780467AA49493D36C679B0F@Heathkit2>


Yeah I know I ought to have my head examined, but I have accumulated all the
modules for a URC-32 (Collins KWT-6) but need the rack, blower, cable
harness, and that junction box at the top - anyone got a parts unit?

Will pick up on East Coast some day or at Dayton hamfest in 2 weeks.

thanks,
Nick K4NYW
www.navy-radio.com 




From nick at virhistory.com  Wed Apr 29 12:40:39 2009
From: nick at virhistory.com (Nick England)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:40:39 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] Dayton hamfest - TTY want list
Message-ID: <3DBB239F40BC499E95D642365EB775D8@Heathkit2>

 
Coming to the Dayton hamfest?
I'll be looking for AN/FCC-3 and AN/FGC-5 TTY multiplex gear. If you've got
any parts, please let me know.
I'll be taking a CV-116/URR dual RTTY converter for sale.
cheers,
Nick K4NYW
www.navy-radio.com 



From nick at virhistory.com  Wed Apr 29 12:43:56 2009
From: nick at virhistory.com (Nick England)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:43:56 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] AN/MRR-2 receiver
Message-ID: <254208CA3B9A42088B270D922A0F3DDD@Heathkit2>

 
I recently got a photo of an AN/MRR-2 MF/HF receiver and have posted it at
http://www.virhistory.com/navy/rcvrs/mrr2-01A.JPG

This is presumably a Marine Corps version of the SRR-12 and FRR-22 units -
is in a  waterproof case (I assume the blue paint s not original!) and
includes 24vdc operation as well as 115vac. I see this one is a /XN-1
prototype. 
Has anyone ever seen another one of these or the similar MRR-3? Does anyone
have a manual? more photos?

cheers,
Nick the Navy Radio nut
www.virhistory.com/navy

Oh - another interesting recent photo is at
http://www.virhistory.com/navy/commsta/pr/Receiver_Site_3.jpg
shows FRR-38 and FRR-41 dual diversity rcvrs at NAVCOMMSTA Puerto Rico 1968.



From jydsk at tds.net  Wed Apr 29 17:53:02 2009
From: jydsk at tds.net (Steve Hilsz)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:53:02 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Keyer J-49
Message-ID: <2E15F3BB410A4059994E924706EA1656@warehouse>

I found a few J-49 Morse Code Keyers made by Sangamo Electric. The 
characters can be changed by moving the levers on the program wheel in or 
out. The keyers work on 115 VAC:
http://phonesurplus.com/offer/keyer1.jpg
http://phonesurplus.com/offer/keyer2.jpg
http://phonesurplus.com/offer/keyer3.jpg
http://phonesurplus.com/offer/keyer4.jpg

$20 each, plus shipping

Can be shipped domestically via US Postal Service flat-rate $9.85.

Steve Hilsz
jydsk at tds.net


From telegrapher at att.net  Wed Apr 29 19:09:27 2009
From: telegrapher at att.net (telegrapher at att.net)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:09:27 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] Lots of WECO stuff
Message-ID: <042920092309.16603.49F8DE27000537C7000040DB22230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF9D0A089F0E9D090A040A9B@att.net>

								250220064955

This is one of those screwdrivers that you need when working on the WECO/Bell system plugs.  ya know the little tiny ones down inside the plugs?  I think someone had a group buy on these, new ones, a couple years back and go them for around $20 ea.

Can't believe the amount of stuff this guy has listed.  I'n up beyond 30 pages and still no end in sight!

Larry
W0OGH

From kk5f at earthlink.net  Wed Apr 29 20:53:40 2009
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:53:40 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Keyer J-49
Message-ID: <16902112.1241052820780.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Steve wrote:

>I found a few J-49 Morse Code Keyers made by Sangamo Electric.

Interesting.  I'd never heard of a J-49.  The card in one picture indicates
that is is part of the AN/CRN-10, which is an air-transportable (C) ILS VHF
localizer transmitter (R, N) system.  Doubtless these J-49 units were set for
the desired Morse ID to be transmitted on the localizer frequency.

Mike / KK5F

From WA5CAB at cs.com  Wed Apr 29 22:31:53 2009
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:31:53 EDT
Subject: [Milsurplus] [GreenKeys] Lots of WECO stuff
Message-ID: <d40.3edd3264.372a6799@cs.com>

The one pictured appears to be a vintage original.  15 or 20 years ago, a 
Bell retiree gave me a pair of them, and said they were known in his work 
area as the Thousand Line Screw Screwdrivers.  I passed one of them on to 
someone who I think I remember.  More recently I discovered that they were still 
made but not quite as good a quality.  Different color, too.

Anyway, this is the screwdriver that makes putting a new cord or plug onto 
a vintage military headset of microphone a routine job instead of one that 
you would have to flip a coin to decide whether you would prefer to have a 
root canal instead of doing.

Now if I could just find one of the crimping tools for the cord retaining 
ring...

In a message dated 4/29/2009 7:08:31 PM Central Daylight Time, 
jangus at socal.rr.com writes: 
> 
> >                                250220064955
> >
> >This is one of those screwdrivers that you need when working on the 
> WECO/Bell system plugs.
> 
> Dang it Larry....You're costing me money. ;-)
> Yes, I just bought it. 
> 
> I've wanted the "real" one for fixing those connectors.
> 
> Thankies for the heads up.

Robert & Susan Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480

From wh7hg.hi at gmail.com  Thu Apr 30 01:27:25 2009
From: wh7hg.hi at gmail.com (Michael Tauson)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:27:25 -1000
Subject: [Milsurplus] [Boatanchors] Lots of WECO stuff
In-Reply-To: <042920092309.16603.49F8DE27000537C7000040DB22230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF9D0A089F0E9D090A040A9B@att.net>
References: <042920092309.16603.49F8DE27000537C7000040DB22230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF9D0A089F0E9D090A040A9B@att.net>
Message-ID: <c34299fb0904292227q45740c7el506e75a1f085c36a@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:09 PM,  <telegrapher at att.net> wrote:
> Can't believe the amount of stuff this guy has listed. ?I'n up beyond 30 pages and still no end in sight!

Jake's been selling WE stuff since Noah was a cabin boy.  I'm fairly
sure where it came from considering the age but what I've always
wondered about is where he stores it!

Best regards,

Michael

From wb9ipa at gmail.com  Thu Apr 30 15:11:14 2009
From: wb9ipa at gmail.com (paul alexander)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:11:14 -0400
Subject: [Milsurplus] URC-32 rack, blower, cables needed
Message-ID: <e083217d0904301211l6e5aabdap8cfbb57606048f11@mail.gmail.com>

This post just brought back some great memories.  While going to Navy
"ET" school in Great Lakes, I did my duty days at the MARS station,
since I was a Ham.  We had three URC-32s that we would run RTTY on.
Back then, I thought those were the greatest radio ever built.  Lots
of knobs, mechanical counters, meters and they would run 500 Watts out
on RTTY all day.  They seemed to be pretty reliable, too.  I don't
seem to remember much downtime, except for normal maintenance.  Never
seen a complete one since then, but, always wanted to have one in the
shack!

I think we also had one of the URT-18(?) which had was a URC-32, minus
the normal PA section, and a larger PA, in its own cabinet.  I think
it was 1500 Watts.

Thanks for the post.  I hope you get your's running!

Paul Alexander
wb9ipa
http://wb9ipa.qrpradio.com/


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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:38:58 -0400
From: "Nick England" <nick at virhistory.com>
Subject: [Milsurplus] URC-32 rack, blower, cables needed
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Yeah I know I ought to have my head examined, but I have accumulated all the
modules for a URC-32 (Collins KWT-6) but need the rack, blower, cable
harness, and that junction box at the top - anyone got a parts unit?

Will pick up on East Coast some day or at Dayton hamfest in 2 weeks.

thanks,
Nick K4NYW
www.navy-radio.com

