From RAFANTINI at salisbury.edu  Fri Dec  2 09:01:56 2022
From: RAFANTINI at salisbury.edu (Ray Fantini)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 14:01:56 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] RCAF Marconi
Message-ID: <DM8P220MB0472742EB32C14B39245E111B8179@DM8P220MB0472.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

What a weird looking transmitter, is it VLF or HF? Wonder what receiver it was paired with? Also appears to be CW only.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/125638053560?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20220705100511%26meid%3D5e0756a58f8847ce90d70ad4b3f565c8%26pid%3D101524%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26itm%3D125638053560%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2&_trksid=p2380057.c101524.m146925&_trkparms=pageci%3Aaaa7aa62-7248-11ed-be4a-42a8e83569eb%7Cparentrq%3Ad31cdaa91840a9bff897b19dfffd88fd%7Ciid%3A1

Ray F/KA3EKH
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From w2hx at w2hx.com  Fri Dec  2 10:27:02 2022
From: w2hx at w2hx.com (W2HX)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 15:27:02 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] RCAF Marconi
In-Reply-To: <DM8P220MB0472742EB32C14B39245E111B8179@DM8P220MB0472.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <DM8P220MB0472742EB32C14B39245E111B8179@DM8P220MB0472.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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I think it is an attractive set!
http://www.jproc.ca/marconi/at1.html


From: milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net <milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Ray Fantini
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 9:02 AM
To: milsurplus at mailman <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Milsurplus] RCAF Marconi

What a weird looking transmitter, is it VLF or HF? Wonder what receiver it was paired with? Also appears to be CW only.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/125638053560?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20220705100511%26meid%3D5e0756a58f8847ce90d70ad4b3f565c8%26pid%3D101524%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26itm%3D125638053560%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2&_trksid=p2380057.c101524.m146925&_trkparms=pageci%3Aaaa7aa62-7248-11ed-be4a-42a8e83569eb%7Cparentrq%3Ad31cdaa91840a9bff897b19dfffd88fd%7Ciid%3A1

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From Kargo_cult at msn.com  Fri Dec  2 14:25:15 2022
From: Kargo_cult at msn.com (Hubert Miller)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 19:25:15 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] RCAF Marconi
In-Reply-To: <BL1PR12MB526944E41EA828FFEB00237DB5179@BL1PR12MB5269.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DM8P220MB0472742EB32C14B39245E111B8179@DM8P220MB0472.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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That's our own George Babits, from Idaho. He had a big bunch of stuff to sell maybe 3 years ago, including an early GO
and some commercially modified ARB, as I remember. I have a high input impedance however.
But, I am very tempted to bid on this xmtr. I have 2 of the matching receiver. It's not a real big thing either. I have to do
some hard thinking on what other project I can drop, though. Make that "projects".
-Hue Miller
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From Kargo_cult at msn.com  Fri Dec  2 16:26:13 2022
From: Kargo_cult at msn.com (Hubert Miller)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 21:26:13 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] RCAF Marconi
In-Reply-To: <CO6PR19MB5434F1036C6745289669AB06E4179@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DM8P220MB0472742EB32C14B39245E111B8179@DM8P220MB0472.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<BL1PR12MB526944E41EA828FFEB00237DB5179@BL1PR12MB5269.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
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Ckt diagram is pretty basic, your MOPA with screen mod. Power tubes are RK39, which I didn't recognize, but I learned they
are basically 807. I used to have some large 3-legged rocks, but now I'm wondering if I gave them all away.  This covers 20M
but I kinda wonder what kind of stability it offers in that neighborhood.

BTW, was recently reading an issue of the VMARS journal and it has 3 pages or so of the communications transcript between an
Australian unit and the Japanese island command, arranging for surrender. The Japanese base listed the crystals they had on
hand, and there were only something like a half dozen channels they had available, all in the 3 MHz band.
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From arc5 at ix.netcom.com  Sat Dec  3 22:12:15 2022
From: arc5 at ix.netcom.com (David Stinson)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2022 21:12:15 -0600
Subject: [Milsurplus] UK R1155 Receiver Gurus?
Message-ID: <a264c965-419f-9eba-fb69-9abe16e15d48@ix.netcom.com>

Working on a U.K. R1155N receiver,
sent by a generous and kind gentleman
I am privileged to know. Got it playing,
but it needs a careful alignment.

I can find only partial manuals and some
schematics on the web, none of which
cover the alignment procedures.

The IFs need tweeking, but the cans have
holes in the sides through which one can
see iron cores, but they do not appear to
have slots or key holes one could use to
align them. The IFs, normally 560KC,
  were mis-tuned to 566KC.  For now, I aligned
the BFO accordingly.  Anyone have the procedure
or experience aligning these IFs?

I have not attempted to align the RF circuits
without the proper information.  Also, the
coil slugs are varnished into place.  Someone
already broke one trying to "gorilla" the
varnish.  Has anyone found a solvent which
will not harm the coils?

I have been known to accept moderately degraded
performance as a "fair exchange" to prevent damage.
I could live with the set as-is (I'm not using
it for DXCC afterall), rather than break things.
It plays and sounds decent.  My "A" model has
  somewhat better audio, but there may be
issues in the audio output as yet undiscovered.

The "A" model has run well for years with
regulated 135V B+.  The power supply is built
into the speaker enclosure and includes
a sand-state audio amp to drive the speaker,
since the R1155 is designed for headphones.

The power supply transformer is a toroidal
as used in many "ac inverter" circuits.
It has dual 115 VAC windings and dual 12VAC
windings.  One 115 winding is used as a primary
and the other is bridge-rectified for B+,
being about 180 V unloaded. This is fed to
an NTE1743 HV regulator providing 135V B+
with *Floating B-* like a BC-348.  The
regulated B+ makes the rig quite stable-
not as good as a refurbed and B+ regulated
TCS receiver, but close.
I will likely build a duplicate supply/amp into
the speaker for this set as well.

One of the 12 VAC windings is bridge-rectified
and fed to a small DC-DC buck converter with
provides 9 VDC to the speaker amp.  I could have
done that for the filaments using the other 12V
winding but I had already mounted a separate 6.3 VAC
transformer for filaments before I thought of it.

So- Who knows how to align these IFs and who
knows how to dissolve the varnish on the
RF coil cores?

Also- Both this "N" model and the "A" model
seem to suffer from images.  Anyone
else see that?

If you happen to work on an "N" model some day,
note that when you are using the two lowest bands,
the set gets antenna connection from pin 2,
"Trailing Aerial."  When on the higher bands,
it connects to pin 1, "Fixed Aerial."
You can jumper these two in the connector
if using one antenna.

N Model playing (short):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/zMDvVrLWyF9ebvJi7

TNX OM ES 73 DE Dave AB5S

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From navyradiocom at gmail.com  Sat Dec  3 22:19:19 2022
From: navyradiocom at gmail.com (Tom Brent)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2022 19:19:19 -0800
Subject: [Milsurplus] RCAF Marconi
Message-ID: <638c11b8.170a0220.bcd19.ed6c@mx.google.com>

To answer Ray?s questions from a few days ago regarding the AT-1 (12 volt) and AT-7 (24 volt) transmitters:
? Tuning range is 1.5 ? 5.0 MHz on Channel A and 5.0 ? 20.0 MHz on Channel B. In addition, the transmitter originally came equipped with internal crystals for operation on 375 and 500 KHz (Channel A only). The purpose of 500 KHz is obvious; 375 KHz was used for obtaining a DF bearing. Crystal control or variable frequency control could be selected for the entire HF range.
? The AT-1 transmitter was paired with the AR-2 receiver and the AT-7 was used with the AR-6 receiver. Receiver tuning range is 140 ? 400 KHz & .48 ? 21.0 MHz. The receiver also included RDF and aircraft intercom circuitry.
? The transmitters have CW/MCW/AM capability. The ?NOTE? switch seen on the right side of the front panel selects the audio frequency on MCW and the sidetone heard when using CW.

Both receiver and transmitter can operate under local or remote control. The transmitter has a heater in the oscillator compartment and according to one manual, ?Its purpose is to remove hoarfrost .......during extremely adverse conditions of operation? .
  
The RCAF used these radios in a variety of aircraft, some sources have suggested they were also used as temporary installations in new aircraft being flown from North America to Britain. The fact that many have turned up in the US northeast in original transit cases would seem to support this. I would welcome any further information. At one time, the Overbrook Company in Wellesley, Massachusetts had enough of the receivers to warrant publishing a partial manual. There is also a US military manual for the receiver (T.O.No. 08-45-26) and I believe Robert Downs also has the corresponding one for the transmitter. 

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From Kargo_cult at msn.com  Sat Dec  3 23:38:28 2022
From: Kargo_cult at msn.com (Hubert Miller)
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2022 04:38:28 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] FW: TBY-1, TBY-2
In-Reply-To: <380110142.494906.1670128270678@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CO6PR19MB5434E681CF2FE93500DD86D4E4199@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
	<380110142.494906.1670128270678@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CO6PR19MB5434153E1EB144D6E0D13D0BE4199@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

Here is an email my brother sent me. This is news to me; good news.
This applies to only TBY-1, TBY-2 he tested. I am pretty sure the TBY-8 is hot and pretty hot, too.
-Hue Miller

From: Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2022 8:31 PM
To: Kargo_cult

the TBYs are not hot no 0 above ambient counts

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From Kargo_cult at msn.com  Sat Dec  3 23:44:24 2022
From: Kargo_cult at msn.com (Hubert Miller)
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2022 04:44:24 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] RCAF Marconi
In-Reply-To: <638c11b8.170a0220.bcd19.ed6c@mx.google.com>
References: <638c11b8.170a0220.bcd19.ed6c@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CO6PR19MB5434CAD1E7F51B72424FEBD9E4199@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

Is that a power transformer kludged onto the chassis? Also the smaller transformer
does not look military.
Hue Miller
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From Kargo_cult at msn.com  Sun Dec  4 00:00:57 2022
From: Kargo_cult at msn.com (Hubert Miller)
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2022 05:00:57 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] RCAF Marconi
In-Reply-To: <CO6PR19MB5434CAD1E7F51B72424FEBD9E4199@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <638c11b8.170a0220.bcd19.ed6c@mx.google.com>
	<CO6PR19MB5434CAD1E7F51B72424FEBD9E4199@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
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I placed a bid but then after noticing the added transformer, tried to cancel my bid. Ebay apparently
does not allow this in the last hours of the auction. I wrote a note explaining my change of heart
after further examining the photos.  So we shall see. One of you fellows should buy this thing. I can
easily think of projects in line before taking anything else on, and in fact, I need to continue thinning
out the wild herd.
-Hue Miller
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From dickw1ksz at gmail.com  Sun Dec  4 00:16:16 2022
From: dickw1ksz at gmail.com (Richard Solomon)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2022 22:16:16 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] RCAF Marconi
In-Reply-To: <CO6PR19MB5434CAD1E7F51B72424FEBD9E4199@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <638c11b8.170a0220.bcd19.ed6c@mx.google.com>
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Message-ID: <CAC5FBO9epa_Y-uc-mDvN2vabY7f+5rZCS72JjTD=hc3+y-7i0w@mail.gmail.com>

That space held the dynamotor. My bet is that
it's a power supply.

73, Dick,  W1KSZ

On Sat, Dec 3, 2022, 9:44 PM Hubert Miller <Kargo_cult at msn.com> wrote:

> Is that a power transformer kludged onto the chassis? Also the smaller
> transformer
>
> does not look military.
>
> Hue Miller
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From Kargo_cult at msn.com  Sun Dec  4 00:44:28 2022
From: Kargo_cult at msn.com (Hubert Miller)
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2022 05:44:28 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] RCAF Marconi
In-Reply-To: <CO6PR19MB543412A7F908909C95798758E4199@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <638c11b8.170a0220.bcd19.ed6c@mx.google.com>
	<CO6PR19MB5434CAD1E7F51B72424FEBD9E4199@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <CO6PR19MB5434963F6FD4BC504F743441E4199@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

Well, for better or worse, I decided to leave my bid in.
( I have the matching receiver, unmodified. )
-Hue Miller

From: milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net <milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Hubert Miller
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2022 9:01 PM
To: Tom Brent <navyradiocom at gmail.com>; milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] RCAF Marconi

I placed a bid but then after noticing the added transformer, tried to cancel my bid. Ebay apparently
does not allow this in the last hours of the auction. I wrote a note explaining my change of heart
after further examining the photos.  So we shall see. One of you fellows should buy this thing. I can
easily think of projects in line before taking anything else on, and in fact, I need to continue thinning
out the wild herd.
-Hue Miller
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From arc5 at ix.netcom.com  Sun Dec  4 06:54:07 2022
From: arc5 at ix.netcom.com (David Stinson)
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2022 05:54:07 -0600
Subject: [Milsurplus] RCAF Marconi
In-Reply-To: <CO6PR19MB5434963F6FD4BC504F743441E4199@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <638c11b8.170a0220.bcd19.ed6c@mx.google.com>
	<CO6PR19MB5434CAD1E7F51B72424FEBD9E4199@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <5073fa0c-267d-27a4-df07-6f12167dceaf@ix.netcom.com>

It's definitely been "Golden Screwdrivered,"
  but it's such a pretty thing!

The transformer is in the place of a dynamotor.
Whomever did it crushed the side of the can
capacitor to make room.  The rectifier tube
is crudely mounted on stand-offs. That iron
choke is sitting right up against the Antenna
Loading coil at what would be a High RF Voltage
point... ZAP!  One of the capacitors used
is dated 1962- late for this rig.

There's some sort of "A-Battery" like connector
soldered to a jack on the front panel and just
left dangling inside.

The big mystery to me is that knob above the
meter, which initially looked suspect.
However, there are a handful of images on the
web with at least three different sets
and all of them show that knob.
If you look behind the panel (there are a
couple of barely-usable views), the thing should
be above the meter and wedged between the panel
and the keying relay.  But I don't see anything
on the back of the panel above the meter. There's
no room to work without removing the keying relay,
and there's still Glyptol on some of the solder
points.  Weird.

If I were 45 instead of sketchy health at 65,
I'm make that a project.  Alas, the boney old
man with the hour glass advises against ;-)

GL OM ES 73 DE Dave AB5S

On 12/3/2022 11:44 PM, Hubert Miller wrote:
> Well, for better or worse, I decided to leave my bid in.

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From kgordon2006 at frontier.com  Sun Dec  4 17:12:39 2022
From: kgordon2006 at frontier.com (Kenneth G. Gordon)
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2022 14:12:39 -0800
Subject: [Milsurplus] Marconi Receiver
References: <638D1B57.19783.2D1B94C9.ref@kgordon2006.frontier.com>
Message-ID: <638D1B57.19783.2D1B94C9@kgordon2006.frontier.com>

Looks like George is putting more RCAF stuff up.

Item # 125636292156

He also has the transmitter power supply and the dummy load for the system for sale too.

Ken W7EKB
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From Kargo_cult at msn.com  Sun Dec  4 17:52:38 2022
From: Kargo_cult at msn.com (Hubert Miller)
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2022 22:52:38 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] Marconi Receiver
In-Reply-To: <638D1B57.19783.2D1B94C9@kgordon2006.frontier.com>
References: <638D1B57.19783.2D1B94C9.ref@kgordon2006.frontier.com>
	<638D1B57.19783.2D1B94C9@kgordon2006.frontier.com>
Message-ID: <CO6PR19MB54348EDDF02BE6AF7E9974BCE4199@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

Fellow with the RCAF transmitter on Ebay is NOT George. Was my hasty guess.
I do not know the status of George.    G.B. had a lot of unique radio items
on Ebay maybe 3 years ago now. However, even for something really unique,
such as an early version GO transmitter, the possible buying audience is really
tiny.  I suspect next to nothing of his offerings sold. I thought the
commercially modified ARB he had was pretty unique and interesting, and
that "someone" should save it, preserve it, but I couldn't marshal the time
and energy...
-Hue Miller
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From Kargo_cult at msn.com  Sun Dec  4 17:58:59 2022
From: Kargo_cult at msn.com (Hubert Miller)
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2022 22:58:59 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] Marconi Receiver
In-Reply-To: <638D1B57.19783.2D1B94C9@kgordon2006.frontier.com>
References: <638D1B57.19783.2D1B94C9.ref@kgordon2006.frontier.com>
	<638D1B57.19783.2D1B94C9@kgordon2006.frontier.com>
Message-ID: <CO6PR19MB5434368A7BC3AB34E0122AAFE4199@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

How to tell someone their severely hacked RCAF receiver won't sell for anywhere near $80 even ?
That maybe $10 is more like it, but not even recompense their time for packing?
You don't tell them. Why risk making anyone upset? They can learn this on their own.
It's hard to tell anyway, because maybe for just the right, certain item, even a hacked one will bring
pretty big money.
-Hue Miller
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From navyradiocom at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 00:10:38 2022
From: navyradiocom at gmail.com (Tom Brent)
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2022 21:10:38 -0800
Subject: [Milsurplus] RCAF Marconi
Message-ID: <E7402E4D-729D-438A-9862-64E685885F6A@gmail.com>

Someone posed a question regarding the knob above the meter;  it?s not a knob at all, it is the pilot light assembly for illuminating the meter face.

The AR-2/AR-6 receivers were manufactured by Canadian Marconi, RCA (Montreal) and Northern Electric, the Canadian branch of Western Electric. I have seen AT-1/AT-7 transmitters built by Marconi and Northern Electric and It is likely RCA made them too.

Sent from my iPhone

From hwhall at compuserve.com  Mon Dec  5 00:58:23 2022
From: hwhall at compuserve.com (hwhall at compuserve.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 05:58:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Milsurplus] BC-348 wreck for sale or parts
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Found in dusty corner of aviation museum hangars. Has been worked over rather vigorously by a radio amateur. Dynamotor compartment houses a homebrew IF chassis that uses (among other things) 3 "ARC-5" IF cans. RF amplifier modded to use more modern tube. Tuning gear reduction installed on front panel. There are so many new holes, knobs & undocumented changes that I believe this is only suitable for parts. Not shown, but cabinet is here. Therefore, asking $50 for the whole shebang + shipping from 80917. Will also part out. Email with questions, offers, parts requests.
Pictures here:https://www.antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=420666

WayneWB4OGM
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From scr287 at att.net  Mon Dec  5 13:55:05 2022
From: scr287 at att.net (Jack Antonio)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 13:55:05 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] A bit of trivia
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For what its worth,

I think we've all seen radio components made by Lionel,
such as their keys, and I have a couple of audio transformers
with their stylish "L" logo on the side.

But I just woke up a PP-281 power supply, which
I could call an "American Flyer".

Made by the A.C Gilbert Company.

Jack Antonio
WA7DIA

From ersmar at verizon.net  Mon Dec  5 15:02:12 2022
From: ersmar at verizon.net (Gene Smar)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 20:02:12 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Milsurplus] A bit of trivia
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I recall playing with a Gilbert chemistry set that included reagents like sodium ferrocyanide along with an alcohol lamp. What could possibly go wrong?
73 de?Gene Smar AD3F?

Sent from my Radio Shack TRS-80 model 100 laptop 
 
  On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 1:55 PM, Jack Antonio<scr287 at att.net> wrote:   For what its worth,

I think we've all seen radio components made by Lionel,
such as their keys, and I have a couple of audio transformers
with their stylish "L" logo on the side.

But I just woke up a PP-281 power supply, which
I could call an "American Flyer".

Made by the A.C Gilbert Company.

Jack Antonio
WA7DIA
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From Kargo_cult at msn.com  Mon Dec  5 15:14:39 2022
From: Kargo_cult at msn.com (Hubert Miller)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 20:14:39 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] BC-348 wreck for sale or parts
In-Reply-To: <ff01198c-3a32-2ec0-28df-381b32591d4b@gmail.com>
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	<b9b43a65-3295-f771-765a-aaedda2dd7ca@aafradio.org>
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> the doo dad occupying the dynamotor space?..hmmm
Curiouser and curiouser..
kn7sfz
That looks like a double conversion IF. The IF cans are 85 kHz from the LF Command Receiver.
I assume the extra can wedged in there is 915 kHz and one tube is the converter 915:85
I thought of doing this, some years back, and then thought, nah, live with it as is.
One trivia type item: the Squires Sanders SS-IBS and SS-1R have their IF at 1000 kHz.
But they get the AM selectivity only thru LC's at this frequency. The coils in the S.S. receiver
are much higher Q than the ones in the BC-348, which are Q about 100+.
-Hue Miller



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From Kargo_cult at msn.com  Mon Dec  5 17:14:04 2022
From: Kargo_cult at msn.com (Hubert Miller)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 22:14:04 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] Songs of Christmas Cheer
Message-ID: <CO6PR19MB543422D0762E622E46CE8483E4189@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

One of the best things about Christmas is the chance to once again hear the music group 'Mankind Steamroller'.
These fellows stay in seclusion 51 weeks a year practicing hard so they can get that anesthetizing background 
filler sound just right. After a few seconds of 'Steamroller', I want to dig out my 'Rin & Stimpy do Christmas Music'.
Rin & Stimpy don't get any airplay, but my buying the CD did at least help stroke the Christmas economic flywheel.

A local radio station, KCUP 1230, this year carried Christmas music well into April, while they searched around for 
some other program format that might work. I am sure their Toledo, Oregon listenership was glad to be able to 
hear songs of Christmas cheer long after the rest of the world had packed them away until the next November.
-Hue Miller 

From mikebracey at att.net  Mon Dec  5 17:20:42 2022
From: mikebracey at att.net (Mike Bracey)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 22:20:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Songs of Christmas Cheer
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 That should be, 
Mannheim Steamroller


    On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 04:14:17 PM CST, Hubert Miller <kargo_cult at msn.com> wrote:  
 
 One of the best things about Christmas is the chance to once again hear the music group 'Mankind Steamroller'.
These fellows stay in seclusion 51 weeks a year practicing hard so they can get that anesthetizing background 
filler sound just right. After a few seconds of 'Steamroller', I want to dig out my 'Rin & Stimpy do Christmas Music'.
Rin & Stimpy don't get any airplay, but my buying the CD did at least help stroke the Christmas economic flywheel.

A local radio station, KCUP 1230, this year carried Christmas music well into April, while they searched around for 
some other program format that might work. I am sure their Toledo, Oregon listenership was glad to be able to 
hear songs of Christmas cheer long after the rest of the world had packed them away until the next November.
-Hue Miller 
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From navy.radio at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 17:48:19 2022
From: navy.radio at gmail.com (Nick England)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 17:48:19 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] Songs of Christmas Cheer
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Hard to beat the Jimi Hendrix version of ?Little Drummer Boy????

On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 5:14 PM Hubert Miller <Kargo_cult at msn.com> wrote:

> One of the best things about Christmas is the chance to once again hear
> the music group 'Mankind Steamroller'.



> --
Nick England K4NYW
www.navy-radio.com
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From Kargo_cult at msn.com  Mon Dec  5 17:59:39 2022
From: Kargo_cult at msn.com (Hubert Miller)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 22:59:39 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] OT: A Christmas Story
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I actually lived for some time with an aunt and uncle in Mannheim. 
I'll tell you a little Christmas story. I think, and I hope, no one here, unlike the former Boatanchors group, will shriek
"OH the bandwidth!"

So my uncle was working for the German railroad. He was actually too old to have participated in the recent
war. He told me he was working out in the rail yard one day, he saw an American army truck slow way down on
the road. A carton of cigarettes was tossed out of the canvas topped back of the truck, landed in some bushes, and the
truck continued on its way. Some while later, another couple GI's with a jeep pulled up to the same area.  My uncle 
watched these GIs beat around in the bushes for a while,  but they couldn't seem to find what they were looking for. It's 
amazing how sometimes things get misplaced sometimes or just plain seem to disappear. This apparently was a case of 
PX supplies "lost in transit or unaccounted for". Cigarettes were equivalent to cash money in those days, maybe worth
more than cash, and this was a windfall for uncle. 
-Hue 

From hwhall at compuserve.com  Mon Dec  5 18:07:05 2022
From: hwhall at compuserve.com (hwhall at compuserve.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 23:07:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Milsurplus] A bit of trivia
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Yes!? The Gilbert chemistry set also had instructions on how to work & weld your own glass tubing using an air tube to run the lamp hotter.? Fire!? Molten glass!!? Chemicals!!!? Apparently, they credited kids with more common sense &/or more parental oversight than today.? Maybe it's no wonder kids have little interest in science, etc., when it's been watered down & made fool-proof.? There's less excitement & sense of "I can DO things!"

WayneWB4OGM

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Smar via Milsurplus <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
To: scr287 at att.net; milsurplus at mailman.qth.net <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Mon, Dec 5, 2022 1:02 pm
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] A bit of trivia

I recall playing with a Gilbert chemistry set that included reagents like sodium ferrocyanide along with an alcohol lamp. What could possibly go wrong?
73 de?Gene Smar AD3F?

Sent from my Radio Shack TRS-80 model 100 laptop 
 
  On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 1:55 PM, Jack Antonio<scr287 at att.net> wrote:   For what its worth,

I think we've all seen radio components made by Lionel,
such as their keys, and I have a couple of audio transformers
with their stylish "L" logo on the side.

But I just woke up a PP-281 power supply, which
I could call an "American Flyer".

Made by the A.C Gilbert Company.

Jack Antonio
WA7DIA
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From hwhall at compuserve.com  Mon Dec  5 18:13:33 2022
From: hwhall at compuserve.com (hwhall at compuserve.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 23:13:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Songs of Christmas Cheer
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I dunno.....? I kinda like Mankind Steamroller!

WayneWB4OGM

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From: Mike Bracey <mikebracey at att.net>
To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>; Hubert Miller <Kargo_cult at msn.com>
Sent: Mon, Dec 5, 2022 3:20 pm
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Songs of Christmas Cheer

 That should be, 
Mannheim Steamroller


    On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 04:14:17 PM CST, Hubert Miller <kargo_cult at msn.com> wrote:  
 
 One of the best things about Christmas is the chance to once again hear the music group 'Mankind Steamroller'.
These fellows stay in seclusion 51 weeks a year practicing hard so they can get that anesthetizing background 
filler sound just right. After a few seconds of 'Steamroller', I want to dig out my 'Rin & Stimpy do Christmas Music'.
Rin & Stimpy don't get any airplay, but my buying the CD did at least help stroke the Christmas economic flywheel.

A local radio station, KCUP 1230, this year carried Christmas music well into April, while they searched around for 
some other program format that might work. I am sure their Toledo, Oregon listenership was glad to be able to 
hear songs of Christmas cheer long after the rest of the world had packed them away until the next November.
-Hue Miller 
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From r390a.urr at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 18:28:57 2022
From: r390a.urr at gmail.com (Dave Merrill)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 17:28:57 -0600
Subject: [Milsurplus] A bit of trivia
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Still getting some use out of our Gilbert.

Dave N9ZC

On Mon, Dec 5, 2022, 5:07 PM <hwhall at compuserve.com> wrote:

> Yes!  The Gilbert chemistry set also had instructions on how to work &
> weld your own glass tubing using an air tube to run the lamp hotter.
> Fire!  Molten glass!!  Chemicals!!!  Apparently, they credited kids with
> more common sense &/or more parental oversight than today.  Maybe it's no
> wonder kids have little interest in science, etc., when it's been watered
> down & made fool-proof.  There's less excitement & sense of "I can DO
> things!"
>
> Wayne
> WB4OGM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gene Smar via Milsurplus <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
> To: scr287 at att.net; milsurplus at mailman.qth.net <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> >
> Sent: Mon, Dec 5, 2022 1:02 pm
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] A bit of trivia
>
> I recall playing with a Gilbert chemistry set that included reagents like
> sodium ferrocyanide along with an alcohol lamp. What could possibly go
> wrong?
>
> 73 de
> Gene Smar AD3F
>
>
> Sent from my Radio Shack TRS-80 model 100 laptop
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 1:55 PM, Jack Antonio
> <scr287 at att.net> wrote:
> For what its worth,
>
> I think we've all seen radio components made by Lionel,
> such as their keys, and I have a couple of audio transformers
> with their stylish "L" logo on the side.
>
> But I just woke up a PP-281 power supply, which
> I could call an "American Flyer".
>
> Made by the A.C Gilbert Company.
>
> Jack Antonio
> WA7DIA
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From arc5 at ix.netcom.com  Mon Dec  5 19:56:25 2022
From: arc5 at ix.netcom.com (David Stinson)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 18:56:25 -0600
Subject: [Milsurplus] Songs of Christmas Cheer
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Now you done it...
Christmas Carols for Dads.

-------------------
Tis the season
to spend money,
Fa La La La La,
and all that crap.

I'm going broke
and it's not funny.
Fa La La La La,
and all that crap.

The registers
are steady beeping.
Fa La La, La La La,
and all that crap.

My bank account
is steady leaking.
Fa La La La La,
and all that crap.

For toys and junk
the kids are screaming.
Fa La La La La,
and all that crap.

My checks are all
so hot they're steaming.
Fa La La La La,
and all that crap.

They say that Christmas
comes from Heaven,
Fa La La, La La La,
and all that crap.

Until we all
file Chapter Seven.
Fa La La La La,
and all that crap!

------------------------

Up on the rooftop,
reindeer paws.
It's that sorry
Santa Claus!
Bringing the children
Christmas thrills
and bringing me a bunch
of Christmas BILLS!

Oh, Oh, Oh, He's gotta go!
Oh, Oh, Oh, He's gotta go,
ohh up on the roof
with a thirty-ought-six,
Thanks for the venison
Old Saint Nick!

---------------------------

Another rotten,
stinkin' Christmas!
It's the broke time
of the year.
Say "hello"
to shopping malls,
WalMart Target Sears.

Another rotten
stinkin' Christmas.
And when you
walk down the street,
all the kids
will scream and cry
for every toy they meet!

Oh, oh, the money goes
Swirling down the drain.
Take out your credit card
get ready for some PAIN!

Another rotten,
stinkin' Christmas,
and in case
I wasn't clear:
I'd like to catch
  old Santa Claus
and kick his fat rear!

("chapter seven,
   chapter seven,
     oohhhhhhh!")

Another rotten
stinkin' Christmas!
It's the broke time
of the year.
I don't have
the money left
to even buy a beer!

Another rotten
stinkin' Christmas.
And if you thought
this was The End,
Next year we get
to do this crap
all over, Again!!

(your welcome)

-- 
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
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From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Mon Dec  5 20:03:17 2022
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 17:03:17 -0800
Subject: [Milsurplus] Songs of Christmas Cheer
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> Thanks for the venison
> Old Saint Nick!

Now we're talking!

XYL and I had Bison for dinner last night.

Kurt


From old_radio at aol.com  Mon Dec  5 22:26:24 2022
From: old_radio at aol.com (Jim Whartenby)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 03:26:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] BC-348 wreck for sale or parts
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	<1766559177.926535.1670219903398@mail.yahoo.com>
	<94fff9f9-d042-e750-df0e-a30cac8d6629@gmail.com>
	<b9b43a65-3295-f771-765a-aaedda2dd7ca@aafradio.org>
	<927401490.791281.1670263478429@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAG9SHKPueoAYXs+-5BkM-TJdqgw9O59sr2NE5AvU8+vX1G6Jyg@mail.gmail.com>
	<ff01198c-3a32-2ec0-28df-381b32591d4b@gmail.com>
	<CO6PR19MB5434FF0F8B13D9287345AF53E4189@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <2074431897.1717949.1670297184477@mail.yahoo.com>

I also have a BC-348 that was also modified for double conversion.? It uses a 1mc crystal for the second oscillator to generate the 85kc IF.? IIRC, there are three 85kc IFTs.
Does anyone know which ham magazine, month and year that had the conversion article?Jim

Logic: Method used to arrive at the wrong conclusion, with confidence.? Murphy

-----Original Message-----
From: Hubert Miller <Kargo_cult at msn.com>
To: arc5 at mailman.qth.net <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>; milsurplus at mailman.qth.net <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Mon, Dec 5, 2022 2:14 pm
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] BC-348 wreck for sale or parts

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Curiouser and curiouser..
kn7sfz That looks like a double conversion IF. The IF cans are 85 kHz from the LF Command Receiver. I assume the extra can wedged in there is 915 kHz and one tube is the converter 915:85 I thought of doing this, some years back, and then thought, nah, live with it as is. One trivia type item: the Squires Sanders SS-IBS and SS-1R have their IF at 1000 kHz. But they get the AM selectivity only thru LC?s at this frequency. The coils in the S.S. receiver are much higher Q than the ones in the BC-348, which are Q about 100+. -Hue Miller  ? 

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From wirelessset at hotmail.com  Tue Dec  6 01:22:29 2022
From: wirelessset at hotmail.com (Bruce MacMillan)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 06:22:29 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] Songs of Christmas Cheer
In-Reply-To: <bb79eaa0-5b40-a520-b7e1-db9be27c5940@earthlink.net>
References: <CO6PR19MB543422D0762E622E46CE8483E4189@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
	<318000427.1599009.1670278842735@mail.yahoo.com>
	<2006420102.1282394.1670282013115@mail.yahoo.com>
	<89e66a76-ba24-bfdc-b430-54bb84255ed8@ix.netcom.com>
	<bb79eaa0-5b40-a520-b7e1-db9be27c5940@earthlink.net>
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I find Seattle's own Bob Rivers Christmas songs put me in the mood.
https://bobrivers.com/chipmunks-roasting-on-an-open-fire/

Bruce
M0SOE

From pfthekan at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 14:03:11 2022
From: pfthekan at gmail.com (Paul Thekan)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 11:03:11 -0800
Subject: [Milsurplus] WTD: RAS rcvr power supply
Message-ID: <CAK4LMKPuYw-jkgXRA=pDVmUFyrjV4T7og4BPgt7VxDAOnV=c7Q@mail.gmail.com>

G'day all
  Looking for the CNA-20090 RAS rack mount power supply, either a parts set
or one needing restoration but has its nomenclature plate.

Thank you
Paul
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From Kargo_cult at msn.com  Wed Dec  7 14:50:53 2022
From: Kargo_cult at msn.com (Hubert Miller)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2022 19:50:53 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] RCAF  AT-1 Transmitter
Message-ID: <CO6PR19MB5434D2C71FF2BFACAD20DC0AE41A9@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

I was the person who won the Ebay auction for the RCAF AT-1 transmitter. Nice enough looking beast,
but...I had no business even thinking about another project. Job #1 is downsizing, dammit. I paid something
like $129. If someone else here wants, wanted, or daydreamed about owning it, I will sell it for same price,
plus shipping from me, 97365. I do have a shipping account and you will get a break over retail shipping.
Has a kludged-in power transformer and choke, which should be easy enough to remove. I also have 2
copies of the matching receiver; one unmolested in wood trunk, one with front power connector removed.
I am thinking I would like to clear the decks of the pair as I have it.
I will still have plenty of interesting projects.
-Hue Miller
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From taigh at twinbeech.com  Thu Dec  8 18:13:04 2022
From: taigh at twinbeech.com (taigh at twinbeech.com)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2022 15:13:04 -0800
Subject: [Milsurplus] Anyone have one of these?
Message-ID: <005101d90b5a$a1cbf200$e563d600$@twinbeech.com>

I actually need two of these controllers but I would be giddy to get just
one.

 

Thanks,

 

Taigh

 

Taigh Ramey

Vintage Aircraft Inc.

7432 C.E.Dixon Street

Stockton, California 95206

(209) 982-0273

(209) 982-4832 Fax

 <http://www.twinbeech.com/> www.twinbeech.com

KEEP 'EM FLYING...FOR HISTORY!

 

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From taigh at twinbeech.com  Thu Dec  8 18:13:04 2022
From: taigh at twinbeech.com (taigh at twinbeech.com)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2022 15:13:04 -0800
Subject: [Milsurplus] Anyone have one of these?
Message-ID: <005101d90b5a$a1cbf200$e563d600$@twinbeech.com>

I actually need two of these controllers but I would be giddy to get just
one.

 

Thanks,

 

Taigh

 

Taigh Ramey

Vintage Aircraft Inc.

7432 C.E.Dixon Street

Stockton, California 95206

(209) 982-0273

(209) 982-4832 Fax

 <http://www.twinbeech.com/> www.twinbeech.com

KEEP 'EM FLYING...FOR HISTORY!

 

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From kargo_cult at msn.com  Fri Dec  9 12:20:44 2022
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hubert Miller)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 17:20:44 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] Model D aircraft receiver
Message-ID: <CO6PR19MB54344E7F7F809A611F4813C1E41C9@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

I noticed that 'Electronics' magazine for October 1930, pages 336, 337  has article on this "all wave rradio receiver for aircraft". Description, 2 photos, schematic. Found online at Worldradiohistory.com
-Hue Miller



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From mmab at cox.net  Fri Dec  9 13:13:32 2022
From: mmab at cox.net (MICHAEL BITTNER)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 13:13:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Model D aircraft receiver
In-Reply-To: <CO6PR19MB54344E7F7F809A611F4813C1E41C9@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CO6PR19MB54344E7F7F809A611F4813C1E41C9@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <291877521.1547746.1670609612663@myemail.cox.net>

Pages 336 & 337 are missing.


> On December 9, 2022 at 12:20 PM Hubert Miller <kargo_cult at msn.com> wrote:
> 
>     I noticed that 'Electronics' magazine for October 1930, pages 336, 337  has article on this "all wave rradio receiver for aircraft". Description, 2 photos, schematic. Found online at Worldradiohistory.com 
>     -Hue Miller
> 
> 
> 
>     Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> 


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From scr287 at att.net  Fri Dec  9 14:53:39 2022
From: scr287 at att.net (Jack Antonio)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 14:53:39 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] [ARC5]  Model D aircraft receiver
In-Reply-To: <291877521.1547746.1670609612663@myemail.cox.net>
References: <CO6PR19MB54344E7F7F809A611F4813C1E41C9@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
	<291877521.1547746.1670609612663@myemail.cox.net>
Message-ID: <35ee7ba1-f1ce-f6ec-f46d-d590eede583a@att.net>



On 12/9/2022 1:13 PM, MICHAEL BITTNER wrote:
> Pages 336 & 337 are missing.



Missing on my download, too.

BUT......

There is an article by the same author in the October 1930
issue of QST, concerning the Model D. The title just says
"multi range receiver with fouir tuned circuits" and doesn't
mention aircraft. But it does concern the obvious ancestor to
the Navy RU and various Air Corps BC designations

Jack Antonio
WA7DIA


From kargo_cult at msn.com  Fri Dec  9 15:04:01 2022
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hubert Miller)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 20:04:01 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] [ARC5]  Model D aircraft receiver
Message-ID: <CO6PR19MB54349EEDFC78C3AFD4C6EE29E41C9@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

Well, ain't that a hell of a note. I was looking at a bound volume of my own. I'll have a look at the online source and if it's so, i'll either disassemble my volume or donate the book to that website, even tho i have my own opinion of its owner. Sorry about the bum steer.
Hue Miller



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From mmab at cox.net  Fri Dec  9 15:38:32 2022
From: mmab at cox.net (MICHAEL BITTNER)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 15:38:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] Model D aircraft receiver
In-Reply-To: <35ee7ba1-f1ce-f6ec-f46d-d590eede583a@att.net>
References: <CO6PR19MB54344E7F7F809A611F4813C1E41C9@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
	<291877521.1547746.1670609612663@myemail.cox.net>
	<35ee7ba1-f1ce-f6ec-f46d-d590eede583a@att.net>
Message-ID: <1132287277.1522801.1670618312374@myemail.cox.net>

Thanks, Jack. Mike W6MAB

> On December 9, 2022 at 2:53 PM Jack Antonio <scr287 at att.net mailto:scr287 at att.net > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     On 12/9/2022 1:13 PM, MICHAEL BITTNER wrote:
> 
>         > > Pages 336 & 337 are missing.
> > 
> >     > 
> 
>     Missing on my download, too.
> 
>     BUT......
> 
>     There is an article by the same author in the October 1930
>     issue of QST, concerning the Model D. The title just says
>     "multi range receiver with fouir tuned circuits" and doesn't
>     mention aircraft. But it does concern the obvious ancestor to
>     the Navy RU and various Air Corps BC designations
> 
>     Jack Antonio
>     WA7DIA
> 
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From mmab at cox.net  Fri Dec  9 16:27:34 2022
From: mmab at cox.net (MICHAEL BITTNER)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 16:27:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] Model D aircraft receiver
In-Reply-To: <CO6PR19MB54349EEDFC78C3AFD4C6EE29E41C9@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CO6PR19MB54349EEDFC78C3AFD4C6EE29E41C9@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <458161066.1506685.1670621254469@myemail.cox.net>

In any case Hue, thanks for putting us onto this interesting article. Mike W6MAB


> On December 9, 2022 at 3:04 PM Hubert Miller <kargo_cult at msn.com> wrote:
> 
>     Well, ain't that a hell of a note. I was looking at a bound volume of my own. I'll have a look at the online source and if it's so, i'll either disassemble my volume or donate the book to that website, even tho i have my own opinion of its owner. Sorry about the bum steer. 
>     Hue Miller
> 
> 
> 
>     Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> 


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From Kargo_cult at msn.com  Fri Dec  9 17:11:01 2022
From: Kargo_cult at msn.com (Hubert Miller)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 22:11:01 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] Model D aircraft receiver
In-Reply-To: <458161066.1506685.1670621254469@myemail.cox.net>
References: <CO6PR19MB54349EEDFC78C3AFD4C6EE29E41C9@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
	<458161066.1506685.1670621254469@myemail.cox.net>
Message-ID: <CO6PR19MB543449DE9B6DE6973215BF06E41C9@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

You fellows are right. Someone razored out the two pages before the site got the volume. I was also actually shocked to see how crappy the
volume?s scans are. I am just little me, but I take pains to do a better job on a bound volume, which is indeed a challenge, if the volume is to
remain bound. Their scan pages omit or have barely adequate coverage near the center of the page, the binding. Maybe these volumes were
only loaned to them, so they couldn?t hack off the binding. ( I learned the hard way, you don?t loan anything to radiohistory.com  )
If I donate my volumes to them, it could be that we?d end up with the missing pages in an also crappy scan. So I think I disassemble my volume
and then scan and maybe the scans will go Radionerds.
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From jphutch60bj at gmail.com  Sat Dec 10 22:18:22 2022
From: jphutch60bj at gmail.com (jphutch60bj)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2022 21:18:22 -0600
Subject: [Milsurplus] LM- Frequency Meter - B and A battery voltages
Message-ID: <15abe9da-f229-ff89-7724-9d397408ff2e@gmail.com>

Been looking in vain for A and B battery voltage information? in "1940"'s

My LM- frequency meter battery connector has 5 connectors 4 look to be 
the same profile and seem to be connected in series, the 5'th connector 
is different seems top be the B battery connection.

were the A batteries 1.5, 3 or 6 volt? for 3 volt 3X4 = 12?? if 6 volt;? 
6X4 is 24? thinking 1.5V was a bit low since the wire size is not large.

was the B battery voltage:120, 90, 45 or 22.5 volt ?? I'm thinking 90 volt?

If there is a web page that would be sufficient.

Found this : 
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GOVPUB-C13-4fec652c125b49a581edfe8d5c593147/pdf/GOVPUB-C13-4fec652c125b49a581edfe8d5c593147.pdf 
No average voltages were specified?


Thanks

Hutch


From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Sat Dec 10 22:31:22 2022
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2022 19:31:22 -0800
Subject: [Milsurplus] LM- Frequency Meter - B and A battery voltages
In-Reply-To: <15abe9da-f229-ff89-7724-9d397408ff2e@gmail.com>
References: <15abe9da-f229-ff89-7724-9d397408ff2e@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10bb3468-4036-f73d-5c80-4cde78ba16bd@earthlink.net>

On 12/10/2022 19:18, jphutch60bj wrote:
> Been looking in vain for A and B battery voltage information? in "1940"'s
> 
> My LM- frequency meter battery connector has 5 connectors 4 look to be 
> the same profile and seem to be connected in series, the 5'th connector 
> is different seems top be the B battery connection.

Which LM model?

I've been running into this for some mil items I have.  I look for the 
manual, see what batteries it requires per the manual, then look up the 
battery for the pinout, and voltages.

Kurt


From old_radio at aol.com  Sat Dec 10 22:52:37 2022
From: old_radio at aol.com (Jim Whartenby)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 03:52:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Milsurplus] LM- Frequency Meter - B and A battery voltages
In-Reply-To: <15abe9da-f229-ff89-7724-9d397408ff2e@gmail.com>
References: <15abe9da-f229-ff89-7724-9d397408ff2e@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1091758100.2779355.1670730757576@mail.yahoo.com>

According to the LM-13 manual, 2 each 6 volt batteries in series and 4 each 45 volt batteries also in series.
See:?https://bama.edebris.com/download/military/lm13/LM-13.PDF
Seems that all LMs are basically the same according to pages 1 & 2 of above.
Regards,Jim

Logic: Method used to arrive at the wrong conclusion, with confidence.? Murphy

-----Original Message-----
From: jphutch60bj <jphutch60bj at gmail.com>
To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sat, Dec 10, 2022 9:18 pm
Subject: [Milsurplus] LM- Frequency Meter - B and A battery voltages

Been looking in vain for A and B battery voltage information? in "1940"'s

My LM- frequency meter battery connector has 5 connectors 4 look to be 
the same profile and seem to be connected in series, the 5'th connector 
is different seems top be the B battery connection.

were the A batteries 1.5, 3 or 6 volt? for 3 volt 3X4 = 12?? if 6 volt;? 
6X4 is 24? thinking 1.5V was a bit low since the wire size is not large.

was the B battery voltage:120, 90, 45 or 22.5 volt ?? I'm thinking 90 volt?

If there is a web page that would be sufficient.

Found this : 
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GOVPUB-C13-4fec652c125b49a581edfe8d5c593147/pdf/GOVPUB-C13-4fec652c125b49a581edfe8d5c593147.pdf 
No average voltages were specified?


Thanks

Hutch

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From jphutch60bj at gmail.com  Sat Dec 10 22:54:23 2022
From: jphutch60bj at gmail.com (jphutch60bj)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2022 21:54:23 -0600
Subject: [Milsurplus] LM- Frequency Meter - B and A battery voltages
In-Reply-To: <10bb3468-4036-f73d-5c80-4cde78ba16bd@earthlink.net>
References: <15abe9da-f229-ff89-7724-9d397408ff2e@gmail.com>
	<10bb3468-4036-f73d-5c80-4cde78ba16bd@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <78288cde-46bd-fd78-e123-5d67849e5dd5@gmail.com>

group -

I Found the correct document! : NAVER 08-5Q-38? (LM-13)

Well I got this totally wrong

4 : B batteries with 3 pin connectors @ 45 Volts

2 : A batteries with 2 pin connectors @ 6 volts.

Hutch

On 12/10/2022 9:31 PM, KD7JYK DM09 wrote:
> On 12/10/2022 19:18, jphutch60bj wrote:
>> Been looking in vain for A and B battery voltage information? in 
>> "1940"'s
>>
>> My LM- frequency meter battery connector has 5 connectors 4 look to 
>> be the same profile and seem to be connected in series, the 5'th 
>> connector is different seems top be the B battery connection.
>
> Which LM model?
>
> I've been running into this for some mil items I have.? I look for the 
> manual, see what batteries it requires per the manual, then look up 
> the battery for the pinout, and voltages.
>
> Kurt
>

From robinson at tuberadio.com  Sun Dec 11 00:17:57 2022
From: robinson at tuberadio.com (robinson at tuberadio.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 16:17:57 +1100
Subject: [Milsurplus] Milsurplus Digest, Vol 224, Issue 15
In-Reply-To: <mailman.34883.1670730873.3600.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.34883.1670730873.3600.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <9fcf2e271639a86ee4f7160d3d6e2786@tuberadio.com>

Hi Hutch,

there is some information here....
http://www.tuberadio.com/robinson/museum/LM-13/

Regards
Ray vk2no

> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2022 21:18:22 -0600
> From: jphutch60bj <jphutch60bj at gmail.com>
> To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Milsurplus] LM- Frequency Meter - B and A battery voltages
> Message-ID: <15abe9da-f229-ff89-7724-9d397408ff2e at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> 
> Been looking in vain for A and B battery voltage information? in 
> "1940"'s
> 
> My LM- frequency meter battery connector has 5 connectors 4 look to be
> the same profile and seem to be connected in series, the 5'th connector
> is different seems top be the B battery connection.
> 
> were the A batteries 1.5, 3 or 6 volt? for 3 volt 3X4 = 12?? if 6 
> volt;?
> 6X4 is 24? thinking 1.5V was a bit low since the wire size is not 
> large.
> 
> was the B battery voltage:120, 90, 45 or 22.5 volt ?? I'm thinking 90 
> volt?
> 
> If there is a web page that would be sufficient.
> 
> Found this :
> https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GOVPUB-C13-4fec652c125b49a581edfe8d5c593147/pdf/GOVPUB-C13-4fec652c125b49a581edfe8d5c593147.pdf
> No average voltages were specified?
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Hutch
> 

From wrcromwell at gmail.com  Sun Dec 11 13:51:27 2022
From: wrcromwell at gmail.com (William Cromwell)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 13:51:27 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] AN/URM-70 signal generator available - sell/trade
Message-ID: <83c1f681-1081-6dd6-b13e-a388a77c4abf@gmail.com>

Hi,

I am lightening ship here and I have a 50 to 400 mc signal generator to 
rehome. I used it in the past to work on VHF FM radios in the amateur, 
VHF land-mobile, and marine VHF radios. I stopped using it when I 
acquired a Motorola service monitor. I have been moving it out of my way 
constantly since. It is in the original transit case so that task has 
been a little easier. I see them listed with an asking price of $250 and 
that does not include the transit case. I can be more reasonable than 
that. Shipping estimates on eBay are about $125! I am suggesting this is 
for local pickup in north central Michigan (Houghton Lake).

I am more interested in HF gear so that is a possible trade suggestion. 
I will be taking photos to list on QRZ if no interest here.

73,

Bill KU8H

-- 
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From fpetri at eastex.net  Thu Dec 15 18:08:39 2022
From: fpetri at eastex.net (fpetri at eastex.net)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022 17:08:39 -0600
Subject: [Milsurplus] Looking for a |WWII Radio Repairman
Message-ID: <000101d910da$2b518ce0$81f4a6a0$@eastex.net>

I am a 79 year old 100% Disabled Veteran who is retired from the U.S. Army
and is now legally blind and would like to know if there is any Amateur
Radio Operators near Chester, Texas that is technically proficient to repair
radios that would be willing to drive to my house one day and repair my WWII
BC-669 AM Transceiver. Or someone that has worked on a BC-669 before. It
just quit transmitting one day, but the receiver works fine. Could just be a
tube or a bad capacitor, etc. I don't see well enough to work on it any more
and my son thinks tubes should be in a museum.

 

I have the manual and some test equipment.

 

Houston is approximately 130 miles away.

Lufkin is approximately 45 miles away.

Jasper is approximately 55 Miles away.

Livingston is approximately35 miles away.

Beaumont is approximately 80 miles away.

Washington D.C. is not far enough away.

 

I will feed you and pay for your gas. I will pay for the parts that I don't
have. It will be very appreciated.

 

Floyd, KF5YDH

fpetri at eastex.net <mailto:fpetri at eastex.net> 

(936) 635-2556

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From navy.radio at gmail.com  Fri Dec 16 11:42:19 2022
From: navy.radio at gmail.com (Nick England)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 11:42:19 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] 2 MW VLF station construction photos
Message-ID: <CAB55hNc_qrhz9PrND7NJO7_p+xmgFe2RuG61pz=Tc0TprQiZkQ@mail.gmail.com>

Some of you know about my fascination with the US Navy's communications
system. I recently got a batch of construction photos of the VLF
transmitter site at North West Cape Australia.
https://www.navy-radio.com/commsta/holt-nwc-am.htm
More photos and info on NWC are here - including the antenna current meter
showing 2000 amps...now THAT's a transmitter, mate...
https://www.navy-radio.com/commsta/holt.htm

Cheers,
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www.navy-radio.com
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From gjsliney48 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 16 12:30:21 2022
From: gjsliney48 at gmail.com (George Sliney)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 09:30:21 -0800
Subject: [Milsurplus] 2 MW VLF station construction photos
In-Reply-To: <CAB55hNc_qrhz9PrND7NJO7_p+xmgFe2RuG61pz=Tc0TprQiZkQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAB55hNc_qrhz9PrND7NJO7_p+xmgFe2RuG61pz=Tc0TprQiZkQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKq9ESa2OpnKpp0JfUZvQ4+orA_-UMmZnyEFTVMW1U1ZKfVFSg@mail.gmail.com>

I was an ETR-Radar.  Though I was also trained on Crypto gear for the Comm
side of things.  Sometimes I wish I could have been an ETN-Comm.  Great
photos of the station.  Thanks for posting.

George

On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:42 AM Nick England <navy.radio at gmail.com> wrote:

> Some of you know about my fascination with the US Navy's communications
> system. I recently got a batch of construction photos of the VLF
> transmitter site at North West Cape Australia.
> https://www.navy-radio.com/commsta/holt-nwc-am.htm
> More photos and info on NWC are here - including the antenna current meter
> showing 2000 amps...now THAT's a transmitter, mate...
> https://www.navy-radio.com/commsta/holt.htm
>
> Cheers,
> Nick England K4NYW
> www.navy-radio.com
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From r390a.urr at gmail.com  Fri Dec 16 14:28:58 2022
From: r390a.urr at gmail.com (Dave Merrill)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 12:28:58 -0700
Subject: [Milsurplus] Mixed Media Table Lamp
Message-ID: <CAGRTi8X1BgxoPFrEvKRE-L7PH0qs1E5EJeyHy3nuLZzU+wojRg@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325465949522
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From jphutch60bj at gmail.com  Fri Dec 16 17:47:11 2022
From: jphutch60bj at gmail.com (jphutch60bj)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 16:47:11 -0600
Subject: [Milsurplus] Mixed Media Table Lamp
In-Reply-To: <CAGRTi8X1BgxoPFrEvKRE-L7PH0qs1E5EJeyHy3nuLZzU+wojRg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGRTi8X1BgxoPFrEvKRE-L7PH0qs1E5EJeyHy3nuLZzU+wojRg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f9a717b4-10bd-8840-c170-5ac8abd9d4e9@gmail.com>

Yes! that is the early Google Assistant prototype }


On 12/16/2022 1:28 PM, Dave Merrill wrote:
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/325465949522
>
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From mstangelo at comcast.net  Sun Dec 18 12:06:03 2022
From: mstangelo at comcast.net (mstangelo at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2022 12:06:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Milsurplus] Baofeng Radios in Ukraine
Message-ID: <1850780232.225459.1671383163059@connect.xfinity.com>

We've seem pictures of Russian troops with Baofeng radios in the war in Ukraine. Did anyone catch the model numbers?

Mike N2MS

From arc5 at ix.netcom.com  Sun Dec 18 12:59:19 2022
From: arc5 at ix.netcom.com (David Stinson)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2022 11:59:19 -0600
Subject: [Milsurplus] Hello R1155 Fans
Message-ID: <52f89dc1-a156-c1a9-ebbe-5ee03a7e3078@ix.netcom.com>

Been working on a "Christmas Present" U.K. R1155
receiver.  Playing nicely now, but still have
some issues:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WiPupJQ7bf6hwCNC7

It's running on well-regulated 135VDC B+.
When I'm not using AVC, turning the gain control
pulls the local oscillator.  When using AVC,
it doesn't.  Before I start digging-in, is
this something you've seen before?

Also- I need to remove the front bezel in
order to change the discoloured Perspex window.
On the "old" tuning knob, one removed the logging
ring around the tuning knob and the assembly came
off without disassembling the tuning knob/drive.

This N-model has the "new" tuning drive:
  https://photos.app.goo.gl/EJQymom4vM9PSDGc8
Does someone know the proper procedure for
pulling this bezel?  I don't want to assume
or "by guess and by golly" if I can prevent it.
There appear to be screws to secure the drive which
come from the inside of the bezel.

Thanks, everyone.
73 Dave AB5S

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From Kargo_cult at msn.com  Sun Dec 18 19:48:51 2022
From: Kargo_cult at msn.com (Hubert Miller)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 00:48:51 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] Hello R1155 Fans
In-Reply-To: <52f89dc1-a156-c1a9-ebbe-5ee03a7e3078@ix.netcom.com>
References: <52f89dc1-a156-c1a9-ebbe-5ee03a7e3078@ix.netcom.com>
Message-ID: <CO6PR19MB5434450FB8A9D5061E0B59AFE4E59@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

Dave, it may be that your questions would be more knowledgeably answered by posting to the WSNo.19 Set email
group in U.K.   I could post your question there, but without any active links, as those do not post. 
-Hue Miller 

From arc5 at ix.netcom.com  Sun Dec 18 19:52:36 2022
From: arc5 at ix.netcom.com (David Stinson)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2022 18:52:36 -0600
Subject: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] Hello R1155 Fans
In-Reply-To: <52f89dc1-a156-c1a9-ebbe-5ee03a7e3078@ix.netcom.com>
References: <52f89dc1-a156-c1a9-ebbe-5ee03a7e3078@ix.netcom.com>
Message-ID: <843cd7ce-8509-6dd2-b120-e8f495522dc3@ix.netcom.com>

Thank you all for your help with this.
Our group is the best.

73 Dave AB5S

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From ark at ar88.net  Tue Dec 20 23:45:30 2022
From: ark at ar88.net (Al Klase)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 23:45:30 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] [MMRCG] Hello R1155 Fans
In-Reply-To: <002a01d914e4$444b12d0$cce13870$@videotron.ca>
References: <52f89dc1-a156-c1a9-ebbe-5ee03a7e3078@ix.netcom.com>
	<4ef023be-7393-a9a6-1965-65a6f9481c16@ar88.net>
	<002a01d914e4$444b12d0$cce13870$@videotron.ca>
Message-ID: <e0a9663f-09dc-0cdc-1881-a3dcda51693b@ar88.net>

Hello Jacques,

I believe that the 6K8 and CV1099 are interchangeable.? But, can't swear 
to it.? However, here are the drawings I just dug up:



Pin-outs look the same to me.

Al*

*
ARK Sig Block Al Klase - N3FRQ
Jersey City, NJ
http://www.skywaves.ar88.net/
On 12/20/2022 9:31 PM, Jacques_VE2JFE wrote:
> ARK Sig Block
>
> Hi Al,
>
> In the R1155, V4 is not a 6K8, it is a Osram X66 (CV1099 / VR99) and 
> this tube cannot behave as a 6K8 because the grid 1 and 3 are 
> interchanged between the two types.
>
> *73, Jacques, VE2JFE in Montreal*
>
> *De?:*MMRCG at groups.io <MMRCG at groups.io> *De la part de* Al Klase
> *Envoy??:* 18 d?cembre 2022 16:28
> *??:* MMRCG at groups.io; ARC-5 <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>; 
> milsurplus at mailman <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
> *Objet?:* Re: [MMRCG] Hello R1155 Fans
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Thanks for the video.? I don't know much about the LO pulling except 
> from, just now, looking at the schematic. The cathode and grid-return 
> of the triode section of V4 go directly to ground.? So it's hard to 
> see when the interaction comes in.
>
> The first thing I'd do is swap out V4, a 6K8, in case there is some 
> internal leakage from the AVC'ed signal grid..
>
> A stitched together copy of the N-schematic is attached.
>
> This was another case of the original .pdf's I was working with being 
> locked up so I couldn't extract the images. However, today there is an 
> easy fix for that:? Printing the file using Microsoft "Print to PDF" 
> gets you an unlocked copy.? Extract the schematic images a .png's and 
> stitch them together using "Image Composite Editor" another free 
> marvel from Microsoft .
>
> Merry Christmas,
> Al
>
> *Al Klase - N3FRQ
> Jersey City, NJ
> **http://www.skywaves.ar88.net/ <http://www.skywaves.ar88.net/>*
>
> _._,_._,_
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From gfsmith at cox.net  Wed Dec 21 00:47:34 2022
From: gfsmith at cox.net (Gordon Smith)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 00:47:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Milsurplus] [MMRCG] Hello R1155 Fans
In-Reply-To: <e0a9663f-09dc-0cdc-1881-a3dcda51693b@ar88.net>
References: <52f89dc1-a156-c1a9-ebbe-5ee03a7e3078@ix.netcom.com>
	<4ef023be-7393-a9a6-1965-65a6f9481c16@ar88.net>
	<002a01d914e4$444b12d0$cce13870$@videotron.ca>
	<e0a9663f-09dc-0cdc-1881-a3dcda51693b@ar88.net>
Message-ID: <1514773122.2188256.1671601654225@myemail.cox.net>

Here is a link to a restoration of a R1155 where the previous owner had replaced the VR99 tube with a 6K8G. Per the article, this is described as a "Sensible" replacement for the VR99: http://www.chavfreezone.me.uk/t1154r1155/2012/r1155a.html

Just relaying what was said, YMMV. 73, Gordon KJ6IKT

> On December 20, 2022 at 11:45 PM Al Klase <ark at ar88.net> wrote:
> 
>     Hello Jacques,
> 
>     I believe that the 6K8 and CV1099 are interchangeable.  But, can't swear to it.  However, here are the drawings I just dug up:
> 
> 
> 
>     Pin-outs look the same to me.
> 
>     Al
> 
>     ARK Sig Block Al Klase - N3FRQ
>     Jersey City, NJ
>     http://www.skywaves.ar88.net/
>     On 12/20/2022 9:31 PM, Jacques_VE2JFE wrote:
> 
>         > > ARK Sig Block
> > 
> >         Hi Al,
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         In the R1155, V4 is not a 6K8, it is a Osram X66 (CV1099 / VR99) and this tube cannot behave as a 6K8 because the grid 1 and 3 are interchanged between the two types.
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         73, Jacques, VE2JFE in Montreal
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         De : MMRCG at groups.io mailto:MMRCG at groups.io <MMRCG at groups.io> mailto:MMRCG at groups.io De la part de Al Klase
> >         Envoy? : 18 d?cembre 2022 16:28
> >         ? : MMRCG at groups.io mailto:MMRCG at groups.io ; ARC-5 <arc5 at mailman.qth.net> mailto:arc5 at mailman.qth.net ; milsurplus at mailman <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net> mailto:milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> >         Objet : Re: [MMRCG] Hello R1155 Fans
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Hi Dave,
> > 
> >         Thanks for the video.  I don't know much about the LO pulling except from, just now, looking at the schematic.  The cathode and grid-return of the triode section of V4 go directly to ground.  So it's hard to see when the interaction comes in.
> > 
> >         The first thing I'd do is swap out V4, a 6K8, in case there is some internal leakage from the AVC'ed signal grid..
> > 
> >         A stitched together copy of the N-schematic is attached.
> > 
> >         This was another case of the original .pdf's I was working with being locked up so I couldn't extract the images.  However, today there is an easy fix for that:  Printing the file using Microsoft "Print to PDF" gets you an unlocked copy.  Extract the schematic images a .png's and stitch them together using "Image Composite Editor" another free marvel from Microsoft .
> > 
> >         Merry Christmas,
> >         Al
> > 
> >         Al Klase - N3FRQ
> >         Jersey City, NJ
> >         http://www.skywaves.ar88.net/ http://www.skywaves.ar88.net/
> > 
> >         _._,_._,_
> > 
> >         ---------------------------------------------
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> > 
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> > 
> >     > 




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From gfsmith at cox.net  Wed Dec 21 01:08:58 2022
From: gfsmith at cox.net (Gordon Smith)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 01:08:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Milsurplus] [MMRCG] Hello R1155 Fans
In-Reply-To: <1514773122.2188256.1671601654225@myemail.cox.net>
References: <52f89dc1-a156-c1a9-ebbe-5ee03a7e3078@ix.netcom.com>
	<4ef023be-7393-a9a6-1965-65a6f9481c16@ar88.net>
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Message-ID: <1747360127.1780130.1671602938811@myemail.cox.net>

Okay, a little more info. Per the Linked page, Mullard classifies the 6K8G and VR99/X66 as the same tube: https://mullard.org/products/6k8g-brimar-arth2-vr99-vr99a-ech35-x65-x66-za5307-cv1193-cv1944-for-marconi-cr100-r1155-r1297-ws19-zc1-r103-r208-r206-dst100-358x-pcr-r1475

This page also cross references the two tubes: http://www.r-type.org/exhib/aaa0680.htm

73, Gordon KJ6IKT


> On December 21, 2022 at 12:47 AM Gordon Smith <gfsmith at cox.net> wrote:
> 
>     Here is a link to a restoration of a R1155 where the previous owner had replaced the VR99 tube with a 6K8G. Per the article, this is described as a "Sensible" replacement for the VR99: http://www.chavfreezone.me.uk/t1154r1155/2012/r1155a.html
> 
>     Just relaying what was said, YMMV. 73, Gordon KJ6IKT
> 
>         > > On December 20, 2022 at 11:45 PM Al Klase <ark at ar88.net> wrote:
> > 
> >         Hello Jacques,
> > 
> >         I believe that the 6K8 and CV1099 are interchangeable.  But, can't swear to it.  However, here are the drawings I just dug up:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >         Pin-outs look the same to me.
> > 
> >         Al
> > 
> >         ARK Sig Block Al Klase - N3FRQ
> >         Jersey City, NJ
> >         http://www.skywaves.ar88.net/
> >         On 12/20/2022 9:31 PM, Jacques_VE2JFE wrote:
> > 
> >             > > > ARK Sig Block
> > > 
> > >             Hi Al,
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             In the R1155, V4 is not a 6K8, it is a Osram X66 (CV1099 / VR99) and this tube cannot behave as a 6K8 because the grid 1 and 3 are interchanged between the two types.
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             73, Jacques, VE2JFE in Montreal
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             De : MMRCG at groups.io mailto:MMRCG at groups.io <MMRCG at groups.io> mailto:MMRCG at groups.io De la part de Al Klase
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> > >             Hi Dave,
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> > >             The first thing I'd do is swap out V4, a 6K8, in case there is some internal leakage from the AVC'ed signal grid..
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> > >             A stitched together copy of the N-schematic is attached.
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> > >             This was another case of the original .pdf's I was working with being locked up so I couldn't extract the images.  However, today there is an easy fix for that:  Printing the file using Microsoft "Print to PDF" gets you an unlocked copy.  Extract the schematic images a .png's and stitch them together using "Image Composite Editor" another free marvel from Microsoft .
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From smithab11 at comcast.net  Thu Dec 22 13:47:02 2022
From: smithab11 at comcast.net (B. Smith)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 13:47:02 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] Merry Christmas
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Merry Christmas Milsurplus
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From w4ax.mack at gmail.com  Thu Dec 22 15:08:46 2022
From: w4ax.mack at gmail.com (Mack McCormick)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:08:46 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] Merry Christmas
Message-ID: <CAFzyUt5CgTczk90O1mesbxcw0zqrWkmarft3Z6VFxKTqEhZEjg@mail.gmail.com>

-- 
73,

Mack
W4AX
https://www.qrz.com/db/w4ax
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From briankn4r at gmail.com  Thu Dec 22 18:49:24 2022
From: briankn4r at gmail.com (Brian Harrison)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 18:49:24 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] Recorder Reproducer, Sound, RD-115/N available
Message-ID: <CE7E6436-D947-4E50-A936-7153C4FDE9E9@gmail.com>

If interested contact Geoff directly at Geoff at wb6nvh.com <mailto:Geoff at wb6nvh.com>

---

A good friend of mine who was a long-time ham and collector died a few years ago in Cleveland.  His wife has been slowly disposing of his collection to a local ham there, who was his childhood friend.
 
I was talking with this fellow this afternoon and he told me that one of the items he is unfamiliar with is a paper tape recorder-player that uses tapes about 4 inches in width on 6 inch diameter spools.  I was thinking this was something possibly FBIS - RID related but seeing the photo (attached,) it must be naval and possibly early post-war or late wartime.  Interestingly, there are cases of unused paper tapes in the garage there,
 
Do you or the museums possibly have any interest in this?  I would hate to see it get deep-sixed.  I can give you the guy's phone number if so. He is in his 80's and doesn't have a computer or E-mail.
 
The tag says "Recorder Reproducer, Sound, RD-115/N and BuShips.  He says it records in a crosswise circular pattern or something like that.
 
Best wishes for the holidays!
 
Geoff Fors
WB6NVH
Monterey CA

More info from Nick England:
See RD-115 info at the bottom of this page. 
https://www.navy-radio.com/record.htm <https://www.navy-radio.com/record.htm>Original 1952 contractor was Soundscriber. 
Uses ?red oxide coated paper tape?



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From n2lxm at juno.com  Thu Dec 22 19:32:58 2022
From: n2lxm at juno.com (n2lxm at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 19:32:58 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] Christmas Funny
Message-ID: <AABT4K74ZA6RHHYS@smtpout04.vgs.untd.com>

One 23rd of December, Santa?s doorbell rings. He opens the door and there
is a little man there in a blue uniform with a peaked cap.

?Evening!? he says, ?My name is Hopkins, Civil Aviation Authority. It?s
time for your check ride?.


Santa begs his pardon politely and Hopkins digs through the satchel he is
carrying and produces a sheaf of papers. ?Checkride,? he says. ?You need
to be licensed to clear U.S. airspace.?


After some mumbling and grumbling, Santa gives in to the inevitable and
gets the sleigh out, harnesses the reindeer and throws a couple of sacks
in the back as ballast. He gets in, helps Hopkins up, and just as he is
about to crack the whip when he notices that Hopkins has produced a
shotgun from somewhere.


?What?s that for?? asks Santa, and Hopkins gives him a knowing look.


?I?m not supposed to say, but since it is you
 You?re gonna lose an
engine on take-off.?
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From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 22 19:35:49 2022
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 16:35:49 -0800
Subject: [Milsurplus] Christmas Funny
In-Reply-To: <AABT4K74ZA6RHHYS@smtpout04.vgs.untd.com>
References: <AABT4K74ZA6RHHYS@smtpout04.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <091698d5-2680-e717-d817-3850f80bc695@earthlink.net>

> ?I?m not supposed to say, but since it is you? You?re gonna lose an 
> engine on take-off.?

Well, now there's coffee all over the desk...

Kurt


From w2hx at w2hx.com  Thu Dec 22 20:29:05 2022
From: w2hx at w2hx.com (W2HX)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2022 01:29:05 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] Recorder Reproducer, Sound, RD-115/N available
In-Reply-To: <CE7E6436-D947-4E50-A936-7153C4FDE9E9@gmail.com>
References: <CE7E6436-D947-4E50-A936-7153C4FDE9E9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BL1PR12MB52692EB655D86A411BBB9A78B5E99@BL1PR12MB5269.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

Very surprising it would use paper and not magnetic. I guess it could be done but seems unintuitive.

From: milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net <milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Brian Harrison
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 6:49 PM
To: milsurplus listserv <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Milsurplus] Recorder Reproducer, Sound, RD-115/N available

If interested contact Geoff directly at Geoff at wb6nvh.com<mailto:Geoff at wb6nvh.com>

---

A good friend of mine who was a long-time ham and collector died a few years ago in Cleveland.  His wife has been slowly disposing of his collection to a local ham there, who was his childhood friend.

I was talking with this fellow this afternoon and he told me that one of the items he is unfamiliar with is a paper tape recorder-player that uses tapes about 4 inches in width on 6 inch diameter spools.  I was thinking this was something possibly FBIS - RID related but seeing the photo (attached,) it must be naval and possibly early post-war or late wartime.  Interestingly, there are cases of unused paper tapes in the garage there,

Do you or the museums possibly have any interest in this?  I would hate to see it get deep-sixed.  I can give you the guy's phone number if so. He is in his 80's and doesn't have a computer or E-mail.

The tag says "Recorder Reproducer, Sound, RD-115/N and BuShips.  He says it records in a crosswise circular pattern or something like that.

Best wishes for the holidays!

Geoff Fors
WB6NVH
Monterey CA

More info from Nick England:
See RD-115 info at the bottom of this page.
https://www.navy-radio.com/record.htm
Original 1952 contractor was Soundscriber.
Uses ?red oxide coated paper tape?

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From navy.radio at gmail.com  Thu Dec 22 21:20:43 2022
From: navy.radio at gmail.com (Nick England)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 21:20:43 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] Recorder Reproducer, Sound, RD-115/N available
In-Reply-To: <BL1PR12MB52692EB655D86A411BBB9A78B5E99@BL1PR12MB5269.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CE7E6436-D947-4E50-A936-7153C4FDE9E9@gmail.com>
	<BL1PR12MB52692EB655D86A411BBB9A78B5E99@BL1PR12MB5269.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAB55hNf=HJvy5074dhTUVdUiq8kvBnyyHCFB=_Gu13AfVsdpBQ@mail.gmail.com>

Yes magnetic. oxide coated paper tape. Helical scan on 3? wide tape. 9?/min
tape speed. 24 hours on a reel. Used to record air-ground and ship-shore
comms.
Nick K4NYW

On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 8:29 PM W2HX <w2hx at w2hx.com> wrote:

> Very surprising it would use paper and not magnetic. I guess it could be
> done but seems unintuitive.
>
>  ?????????
>
> More info from Nick England:
>
> See RD-115 info at the bottom of this page.
>
> https://www.navy-radio.com/record.htm
>
> Original 1952 contractor was Soundscriber.
>
> Uses ?red oxide coated paper tape?
>
>
>
>
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From jvendely at cfl.rr.com  Fri Dec 23 11:31:37 2022
From: jvendely at cfl.rr.com (John Vendely)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2022 11:31:37 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] Recorder Reproducer, Sound, RD-115/N available
In-Reply-To: <BL1PR12MB52692EB655D86A411BBB9A78B5E99@BL1PR12MB5269.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CE7E6436-D947-4E50-A936-7153C4FDE9E9@gmail.com>
	<BL1PR12MB52692EB655D86A411BBB9A78B5E99@BL1PR12MB5269.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <f5a41576-df67-14c0-6e11-93b9e151fb49@cfl.rr.com>

It's magnetic tape, but with a paper rather than plastic substrate.? All 
the early recording tapes were oxide on paper until 3M Corporation 
developed the famous Scotch Type 111 acetate tape in 1948.? Paper tape 
continued to be produced for some time after that, and perhaps much 
longer for the special 3" tape used on the RD-115.

I have many reels of the old paper audio tape from the late 40s and 
early 50s and surprisingly, they have stood the test of time extremely 
well and are still usable.? Ironically, several of the tape formulations 
from the 70s and 80s, especially the back-coated types, have not fared 
so well and have now deteriorated to the point that they can be played 
at best one more time for archival transfer--if yer real lucky...

73,

John K9WT

On 12/22/2022 8:29 PM, W2HX wrote:
>
> Very surprising it would use paper and not magnetic. I guess it could 
> be done but seems unintuitive.
>
> *From:* milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
> <milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net> *On Behalf Of *Brian Harrison
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 22, 2022 6:49 PM
> *To:* milsurplus listserv <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
> *Subject:* [Milsurplus] Recorder Reproducer, Sound, RD-115/N available
>
> If?interested contact Geoff directly at Geoff at wb6nvh.com
>
> ---
>
> A good friend of mine who was a long-time ham and collector died a few 
> years ago in Cleveland.? His wife has been slowly disposing of his 
> collection to a local ham there, who was his childhood friend.
>
> I was talking with this fellow this afternoon and he told me that one 
> of the items he is unfamiliar with is a paper tape recorder-player 
> that uses tapes about 4 inches in width on 6 inch diameter spools.? I 
> was thinking this was something possibly FBIS -?RID related but seeing 
> the photo (attached,) it must be naval and possibly early post-war or 
> late wartime.? Interestingly, there are cases of unused paper tapes in 
> the garage there,
>
> Do you or the museums possibly have any interest in this? I would hate 
> to see it get deep-sixed.? I can give you the guy's phone number if 
> so. He is in his 80's and doesn't have a computer or E-mail.
>
> The tag says "Recorder Reproducer, Sound, RD-115/N and BuShips.? He 
> says it records in a crosswise circular pattern or something like that.
>
> Best wishes for the holidays!
>
> Geoff Fors
>
> WB6NVH
>
> Monterey CA
>
> More info from Nick England:
>
> See RD-115 info at the bottom of this page.
>
> https://www.navy-radio.com/record.htm
>
> Original 1952 contractor was Soundscriber.
>
> Uses ?red oxide coated paper tape?
>
>
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From n2lxm at juno.com  Sat Dec 24 17:51:51 2022
From: n2lxm at juno.com (n2lxm at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2022 17:51:51 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] A Cristmas Story for my Sisters and Brothers in Arms
Message-ID: <AABT4RAWYABGH4DS@smtpout01.vgs.untd.com>

The embers glowed softly, and in there dim light
  I gazed round the room and I cherished the sight.
  My wife was asleep, her head on my chest,
  My daughter beside me, angelic in rest.

  Outside the snow fell, a blanket of white,
  Transforming the yard to a winter delight.
  The sparkling lights in the tree, I believe,
  Completed the magic that was Christmas Eve.

  My eyelids were heavy, my breathing was deep,
  Secure and surrounded by love I would sleep
  In perfect contentment, or so it would seem.
  So I slumbered, perhaps I started to dream.

  The sound wasn't loud, and it wasn't too near,
  But I opened my eye when it tickled my ear.
  Perhaps just a cough, I didn't quite know,
  Then the sure sounds of footsteps outside in the snow.

  My soul gave a tremble, I struggled to hear,
  And I crept to the door jut to see who was near.
  Standing out in the cold and the dark of the night,
  A lone figure stood, his face weary and tight.

  A soldier, I puzzled, some twenty years old.
  Perhaps a Marine huddled here in the cold.
  Alone in the dark, he looked up and smiled,
  Standing watch over me, and my wife and child.

  "What are you doing?"I asked without fear
  "Come in this moment, it's freezing out here!
  Put down your pack, brush the snow from sleeve,
  You should be at home on a cold Christmas Eve!"

  For barely a moment I saw his eyes shift,
  Away from the cold and the snow blown in drifts,
  To the window that danced with a warm fire's light
  Then he sighed and he said "it's really all right,
  I'm out here by choice. I'm here every night"

  "It's my duty to stand at the front of the line,
  That separates you from the darkest of times.
  No one had to ask or beg or implore me,
  I'm proud to stand here like my fathers before me.

  My Gramps died at "Pearl on a day in December."
  Then he sighed, "That?s a Christmas 'Gam always remembers."
  My Dad stood his watch in the jungles of 'Nam
  And now it is my turn and so, here I am.

  I've not seen my own son in more than a while,
  But my wife sends pictures, he's sure got her smile.
  Then he bent and carefully pulled from his bag,
  THE Red White and Blue
 an American Flag.

  "I can live through the cold and the being alone,
  Away from family, my house and my home,
  I can stand at my post through the rain and the sleet,
  I can sleep in a foxhole with little to eat,
  I can carry the weight of killing another
  Or lay down my life with my sisters and brothers
  Who stand at the front against any and all,
  To insure for all time that this Flag will not fall."

  "So go back inside," he said, "harbor no fright
  Your family is waiting and I'll be all right."
  "But isn't there something I can do, at the least,
  "Give you money," I asked, "or prepare you a feast?
  It seems all too little for all that you've done,
  For being away from your wife and your son."

  Then his eye welled a tear that held no regret,
  "Just tell us you love us, and never forget
  To fight for our rights back at home while we're gone.
  To stand your own watch, no matter how long.

  For when we come home, either standing or dead,
  To know you remember we fought and we bled
  Is payment enough, and with that we will trust.
  That we mattered to you as you mattered to us.




                                                    Jeff N2LXM
                                          Amateur Radio Operator
                                                      American
                                                        Patriot
                                     Proud Father of Two US Marines


From arc5 at ix.netcom.com  Mon Dec 26 12:29:13 2022
From: arc5 at ix.netcom.com (David Stinson)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2022 11:29:13 -0600
Subject: [Milsurplus] MAB and DAV Projects Available for Trade
Message-ID: <1da97a25-4fc1-cbe8-14a9-5845f2c58522@ix.netcom.com>

MAB and DAV projects, looking for trade for
unmolested AN/TRC-7 transceiver and accessories.
I have not done any work on the MAB/DAV sets and
are as I got them.  More photos on request.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/HVpCEqgZ7m5RSfVg6

73 Dave AB5S`


-- 
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
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From dsands54 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 26 14:26:27 2022
From: dsands54 at yahoo.com (Don Sands)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2022 19:26:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Milsurplus] F.S. RAK6 Receiver with Power Supply
References: <1331354714.2408570.1672082787387.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1331354714.2408570.1672082787387@mail.yahoo.com>

I have a RAK either 6 or 7 with it's case and power supply available for sale $50. Pickup in the West of Austin Texas area.Don W5DYV
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From Kargo_cult at msn.com  Mon Dec 26 19:23:51 2022
From: Kargo_cult at msn.com (Hubert Miller)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 00:23:51 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] "Vegetation Antenna"
Message-ID: <CO6PR19MB543454E48EA4F7E386797E04E4ED9@CO6PR19MB5434.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

I can't locate the emails right now, but  there was recently some discussion of 'vegetation - looking antennas'.
Here's a scan from an article in 'Vietnam' magazine, December 2018.
-Hue Miller
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From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Mon Dec 26 20:14:46 2022
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2022 17:14:46 -0800
Subject: [Milsurplus] "Vegetation Antenna"
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On 12/26/2022 16:23, Hubert Miller wrote:
> I can?t locate the emails right now, but? there was recently some 
> discussion of ?vegetation ? looking antennas?.
> Here?s a scan from an article in ?Vietnam? magazine, December 2018.

Odd that I don't recall the conversation.

I have several such antennas, some guts from the sensors, and some 
photos from Sandia when they were developed, both the seismic, and 
acoustic models.

Kurt


From jvendely at cfl.rr.com  Tue Dec 27 08:36:59 2022
From: jvendely at cfl.rr.com (John Vendely)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 08:36:59 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] "Vegetation Antenna"
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These things were called "ADSIDs", for Air-Delivered Seismic Intrusion 
Detector, containing VHF transmitters which were air-dropped along the 
Ho Chi Minh trail to monitor enemy movements as part of the large, 
sophisticated, complex Igloo White program. ? The systems were FM in the 
160 MHz range--sort of a terrestrial sonobuoy--with the antennas 
disguised to look like vegetation.? I suspect the frequency range was 
chosen so airborne sonobuoy receivers could be used.? EC-121 (Lockheed 
Constellation) aircraft with banks of receivers orbiting nearby relayed 
sensor data to a large processing center in Thailand where the data was 
fed to large IBM mainframes.?? Attack aircraft were then dispatched to 
the trail according to patterns of sensor hits.

Harris Corporation made the Igloo White sensor RF modules, and there was 
a display case with Igloo White components down the hall from my office 
there, its purpose now largely forgotten.

There were also acoustic sensors called ACOUSIDs, and even seismic 
sensors made to look like bits of dog excrement known as--you guessed 
it--TURDSIDs.?? A friend of mine got some of these in the late 70s as 
surplus and we decided to dissect one and test them.? The internal 
mercury button cells on some were still good, and when shaken 
vigorously, they would send out bursts of RF...

73,

John K9WT

On 12/26/2022 7:23 PM, Hubert Miller wrote:
>
> I can?t locate the emails right now, but there was recently some 
> discussion of ?vegetation ? looking antennas?.
>
> Here?s a scan from an article in ?Vietnam? magazine, December 2018.
>
> -Hue Miller
>
>
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From briankn4r at gmail.com  Tue Dec 27 09:48:36 2022
From: briankn4r at gmail.com (Brian Harrison)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 09:48:36 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] "Vegetation Antenna"
In-Reply-To: <e721d6bd-b2fc-8c9c-b7f5-ecf3f79cbd7d@earthlink.net>
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GM all,

Here is a picture of the metal nose and base of an example ADSID that I believe came from the William Howard Intelligence Museum along with some WW2 Japanese radio items.

Not only were these dropped along the trail, these or similar were dropped or installed around large U.S. bases late in the war. In early fall 1972 I was part of a 4.2? (106mm) heavy mortar unit providing flare and fire support for the Long Binh perimeter (biggest supply base in RVN). We had pre-plotted locations of seismic sensors around the base and would sometimes get calls at night by VHF radio or phone of "movement at sensor so and so" and permission to fire. We did so until the voice at the other end announced ?sensor destroyed?? We typically did not go outside the wire and investigate (I only did so once in 2 months with this unit).

best,
brian
kn4r



> On Dec 26, 2022, at 8:14 PM, KD7JYK DM09 <kd7jyk at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> On 12/26/2022 16:23, Hubert Miller wrote:
>> I can?t locate the emails right now, but  there was recently some discussion of ?vegetation ? looking antennas?.
>> Here?s a scan from an article in ?Vietnam? magazine, December 2018.
> 
> Odd that I don't recall the conversation.
> 
> I have several such antennas, some guts from the sensors, and some photos from Sandia when they were developed, both the seismic, and acoustic models.
> 
> Kurt
> 
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From briankn4r at gmail.com  Tue Dec 27 09:50:34 2022
From: briankn4r at gmail.com (Brian Harrison)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 09:50:34 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] "Vegetation Antenna"
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Here?s a better picture of the base and fins (electronics and antennas missing)



> On Dec 27, 2022, at 8:36 AM, John Vendely <jvendely at cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> These things were called "ADSIDs", for Air-Delivered Seismic Intrusion Detector, containing VHF transmitters which were air-dropped along the Ho Chi Minh trail to monitor enemy movements as part of the large, sophisticated, complex Igloo White program.   The systems were FM in the 160 MHz range--sort of a terrestrial sonobuoy--with the antennas disguised to look like vegetation.  I suspect the frequency range was chosen so airborne sonobuoy receivers could be used.  EC-121 (Lockheed Constellation) aircraft with banks of receivers orbiting nearby relayed sensor data to a large processing center in Thailand where the data was fed to large IBM mainframes.   Attack aircraft were then dispatched to the trail according to patterns of sensor hits.   
> 
> Harris Corporation made the Igloo White sensor RF modules, and there was a display case with Igloo White components down the hall from my office there, its purpose now largely forgotten.  
> 
> There were also acoustic sensors called ACOUSIDs, and even seismic sensors made to look like bits of dog excrement known as--you guessed it--TURDSIDs.   A friend of mine got some of these in the late 70s as surplus and we decided to dissect one and test them.  The internal mercury button cells on some were still good, and when shaken vigorously, they would send out bursts of RF...
> 
> 73,
> 
> John K9WT
> 
> 
> On 12/26/2022 7:23 PM, Hubert Miller wrote:
>> I can?t locate the emails right now, but  there was recently some discussion of ?vegetation ? looking antennas?.
>> Here?s a scan from an article in ?Vietnam? magazine, December 2018.
>> -Hue Miller 
>> 
>> 
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From mstangelo at comcast.net  Tue Dec 27 11:46:26 2022
From: mstangelo at comcast.net (mstangelo at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 11:46:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Milsurplus] "Vegetation Antenna"
In-Reply-To: <0917516e-8a95-8a17-a001-c2547466db4b@cfl.rr.com>
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Does anyone remember the John Meshna Surplus in Massachusetts?

I remember the ad's for the TURDSIDS.

I loved reading through catalog. Does anyone know where we can see copies of those catalogs?

Mike N2MS

> On 12/27/2022 8:36 AM John Vendely <jvendely at cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> These things were called "ADSIDs", for Air-Delivered Seismic Intrusion Detector, containing VHF transmitters which were air-dropped along the Ho Chi Minh trail to monitor enemy movements as part of the large, sophisticated, complex Igloo White program. 
<snip>
> There were also acoustic sensors called ACOUSIDs, and even seismic sensors made to look like bits of dog excrement known as--you guessed it--TURDSIDs. A friend of mine got some of these in the late 70s as surplus and we decided to dissect one and test them. The internal mercury button cells on some were still good, and when shaken vigorously, they would send out bursts of RF...
> 
> 73,
> John K9WT

From Kargo_cult at msn.com  Tue Dec 27 12:23:39 2022
From: Kargo_cult at msn.com (Hubert Miller)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 17:23:39 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] "Vegetation Antenna"
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I saw one of those 'turd' devices once; hard to remember just where, but I suppose it was in an electronics school
I attended in the 1970s, and one of the students brought it in. The 'Vietnam' magazine article has a photo of one 
of these also, including an X-ray image, but the X-ray is not very revealing at all, in terms of what's actually inside
at any component level. 
Didn't one of the electronics magazines discuss this thing also? That would of course, had to have been '73'.   

I still have some Meshna catalogs I just can't part with yet. They need a forever home, not to end up in some 
recycle can. Those catalogs were a wonder, weren't they? Of course, come to think of it, ALL surplus catalogs were
wonderful. 

I recall now, I bought some heavy 6 DC at 25 amp supply, thinking I could use it to provide low volt power for 
some surplus gear. I did nothing with it for decades and finally sold it at a hamfest or three back, for $5, still boxed
up from Meshna. Oh well.

Do you remember the 'Command Sets' transmitters they sold, hyping them as foundations for converting to an antenna
tuner, this after 73 ran an article on doing this? Makes me wonder now how many of these transmitters they had on 
hand to sell. Kind of a sad fate for the things, but I suppose it helped thin the  flock.
-Hue Miller
Newport, Oregon 




From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Tue Dec 27 13:01:31 2022
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 10:01:31 -0800
Subject: [Milsurplus] "Vegetation Antenna"
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> mercury button cells on some were still good, and when shaken 
> vigorously, they would send out bursts of RF...

I'd like to hear the signal these types of devices send out, as well as 
the AN/GSQ-160, but there may not be a chance of finding any of these up 
and running nowadays.

Kurt


From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Tue Dec 27 13:16:14 2022
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 10:16:14 -0800
Subject: [Milsurplus] "Vegetation Antenna"
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"I still have some Meshna catalogs I just can't part with yet. They need 
a forever home, not to end up in some recycle can. Those catalogs were a 
wonder, weren't they? Of course, come to think of it, ALL surplus 
catalogs were wonderful."

I've got a huge filing cabinet filled with catalogs, surplus, kits, 
stores I grew up with, a lot from Ramsey Kits, Hamtronics, Radio Shack 
in various forms, including Allied, Fair Radio, some going back to the 
40's.  Great for memories, and identifying old equipment, as well as 
helping me find older equipment now.

Kurt


From Kargo_cult at msn.com  Tue Dec 27 14:33:52 2022
From: Kargo_cult at msn.com (Hubert Miller)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 19:33:52 +0000
Subject: [Milsurplus] "Vegetation Antenna"
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Or was it that Meshna sold these ( not literal ) turds? Is that where I saw it?
It would be fun, I think, to reverse engineer it, actually draw out the circuit. 
Possibly some engineer somewhere still has that documentation in his own files,
but that kind of thing tends to just disappear into the smoke of time...
-Hue Miller 

From pasquale.nj at gmail.com  Tue Dec 27 18:32:16 2022
From: pasquale.nj at gmail.com (Pasquale Lombardi)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 18:32:16 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] "Vegetation Antenna"
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Yes, it was Meshna that I purchased 3 from.
I still have them in NJ.
Pat

On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 2:34 PM Hubert Miller <Kargo_cult at msn.com> wrote:

> Or was it that Meshna sold these ( not literal ) turds? Is that where I
> saw it?
> It would be fun, I think, to reverse engineer it, actually draw out the
> circuit.
> Possibly some engineer somewhere still has that documentation in his own
> files,
> but that kind of thing tends to just disappear into the smoke of time...
> -Hue Miller
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From jvendely at cfl.rr.com  Tue Dec 27 18:56:38 2022
From: jvendely at cfl.rr.com (John Vendely)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 18:56:38 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] "Vegetation Antenna"
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We didn't have much success in dissecting one, as the electronics were 
molded into a very hard brown plastic material which was almost 
impossible to remove without destroying the device.?? We did manage to 
get enough of the material off to see the mercury cells and a few small 
inductors, but going much further would have simply destroyed it.? The 
more sophisticated ADSID transmitted a pre-programmed ID number, but the 
TURDSIDs we tested simply produced a very brief, erratic squawk or 
chirp, which I assumed contained no data, as the device was quite 
simple.? At the time, we had no idea what frequency they operated on, 
but after some searching, we found an erratic signal in the 160 MHz range.

I perused the internet a bit and found a number of pictures of these 
devices, but the ones we had looked somewhat different, a bit smaller 
and more "globular" in shape, with a small removable pin which armed the 
unit.

73,

John K9WT

On 12/27/2022 1:01 PM, KD7JYK DM09 wrote:
>> mercury button cells on some were still good, and when shaken 
>> vigorously, they would send out bursts of RF...
>
> I'd like to hear the signal these types of devices send out, as well 
> as the AN/GSQ-160, but there may not be a chance of finding any of 
> these up and running nowadays.
>
> Kurt
>
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From kd7jyk at earthlink.net  Tue Dec 27 18:58:54 2022
From: kd7jyk at earthlink.net (KD7JYK DM09)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 15:58:54 -0800
Subject: [Milsurplus] "Vegetation Antenna"
In-Reply-To: <CAJ5jC7VxZ37HMQ7ODGBcGpP4UTAzo+YVA=Oyp__no0e3ZWULvw@mail.gmail.com>
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On 12/27/2022 15:32, Pasquale Lombardi wrote:
> Yes, it was Meshna that I purchased 3 from.
> I still have them in NJ.

Anyone have any of these poomitters running???

I'd love to hear the signal in various modes!!!

Heck, I'd even like to acquire some if possible, unique little modules 
intrigue me.

Kurt


From brooke at pacific.net  Tue Dec 27 20:01:25 2022
From: brooke at pacific.net (Brooke Clarke)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 17:01:25 -0800
Subject: [Milsurplus] "Vegetation Antenna"
In-Reply-To: <mailman.36702.1672169643.3600.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.36702.1672169643.3600.milsurplus@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <0dbb923b-dedc-e381-bd90-cf9cf2b6f39c@pacific.net>

Hi:

Here's some info on related stuff:
https://www.prc68.com/I/Geo_ID.shtml#Turd

http://www.prc68.com/I/GSQ160.shtml <http://www.prc68.com/I/GSQ160.shtml>
http://www.prc68.com/I/GSQ160.shtml#Plant_Antenna

-- 
Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
https://www.PRC68.com
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From n2lxm at juno.com  Thu Dec 29 12:14:34 2022
From: n2lxm at juno.com (n2lxm at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 12:14:34 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] 455 Khz BFO Coil
Message-ID: <AABT45U22AE9GYJ2@smtpout02.vgs.untd.com>

Good Afternoon All, I am looking for a 455 Khz BFO coil for a receiver
project. Anyone have one then can part with ?.,


                                                    Jeff N2LXM
                                          Amateur Radio Operator
                                                      American
                                                        Patriot
                                     Proud Father of Two US Marines


From kgordon2006 at frontier.com  Thu Dec 29 12:56:46 2022
From: kgordon2006 at frontier.com (Ken)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 09:56:46 -0800
Subject: [Milsurplus] 455 Khz BFO Coil
In-Reply-To: <AABT45U22AE9GYJ2@smtpout02.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <1938361163.1077538.1672336212703@frontier.com>

Which receiver?Ken W7EKBSent via the Samsung Galaxy S21 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: n2lxm at juno.com Date: 12/29/22  09:16  (GMT-08:00) To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net Cc: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Milsurplus] 455 Khz BFO Coil Good Afternoon All, I am looking for a 455 Khz BFO coil for a receiverproject. Anyone have one then can part with ?.,??????????????????????????????????????????????????? Jeff N2LXM????????????????????????????????????????? Amateur Radio Operator????????????????????????????????????????????????????? American??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Patriot???????????????????????????????????? Proud Father of Two US Marines______________________________________________________________Milsurplus mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/milsurplusHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:Milsurplus at mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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From n2lxm at juno.com  Thu Dec 29 13:08:42 2022
From: n2lxm at juno.com (n2lxm at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 13:08:42 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] 455 Khz BFO Coil
Message-ID: <AABT45X9HAVYRVES@smtpout04.vgs.untd.com>

I should have been a little clearer. This is a Home Brew. I took an old
AA5 chassis, striped out the converter and DC supply sections. Rewired
for 6 volt tubes. Want to add a BFO to it. It will be hooked up to a
FFRD-7 8 - 16 MHz tuning unit. So any BFO coil that I can squeeze in will
work.


                                                    Jeff N2LXM
                                          Amateur Radio Operator
                                                      American
                                                        Patriot
                                     Proud Father of Two US Marines


On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 09:56:46 -0800 Ken <kgordon2006 at frontier.com> writes:
Which receiver?


Ken W7EKB






Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S21 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone




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From: n2lxm at juno.com 
Date: 12/29/22 09:16 (GMT-08:00) 
To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net 
Cc: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net 
Subject: [Milsurplus] 455 Khz BFO Coil 


Good Afternoon All, I am looking for a 455 Khz BFO coil for a receiver
project. Anyone have one then can part with ?.,


                                                    Jeff N2LXM
                                          Amateur Radio Operator
                                                      American
                                                        Patriot
                                     Proud Father of Two US Marines

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From kgordon2006 at frontier.com  Thu Dec 29 13:19:19 2022
From: kgordon2006 at frontier.com (Kenneth G. Gordon)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 10:19:19 -0800
Subject: [Milsurplus] 455 Khz BFO Coil
In-Reply-To: <AABT45X9HAVDL8W2@smtpout02.vgs.untd.com>
References: <AABT45X9HAVDL8W2@smtpout02.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <63ADDA27.32464.297248C9@kgordon2006.frontier.com>

Ah! OK. I believe I MAY have some 455 kHz BFO coils. I'll have to look. If I do, I'll send you 
one. No charge. I know I have several 455kHz IF cans, but I am not sure if any are BFO 
coils.

Ken W7EKB


On 29 Dec 2022 at 13:08, n2lxm at juno.com wrote:

> 
> 
> I should have been a little clearer. This is a Home Brew. I took an old AA5 chassis, 
> striped out the converter and DC supply sections. Rewired for 6 volt tubes. Want to add 
> a BFO to it. It will be hooked up to a FFRD-7 8 - 16 MHz tuning unit. So any BFO coil 
> that I can squeeze in will work.
> 
> 
> Jeff N2LXM
> Amateur Radio Operator
> American
> Patriot
> Proud Father of Two US Marines
> 
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 09:56:46 -0800 Ken <kgordon2006 at frontier.com> writes:
> Which receiver?
> 
> Ken W7EKB
> 
> 
> 
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S21 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: n2lxm at juno.com
> Date: 12/29/22 09:16 (GMT-08:00)
> To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Cc: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Milsurplus] 455 Khz BFO Coil
> 
> Good Afternoon All, I am looking for a 455 Khz BFO coil for a receiver
> project. Anyone have one then can part with ?.,
> 
> 
> Jeff N2LXM
> Amateur Radio Operator
> American
> Patriot
> Proud Father of Two US Marines
> 
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From wrcromwell at gmail.com  Thu Dec 29 13:24:49 2022
From: wrcromwell at gmail.com (William Cromwell)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 13:24:49 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] 455 Khz BFO Coil
In-Reply-To: <AABT45X9HAVYRVES@smtpout04.vgs.untd.com>
References: <AABT45X9HAVYRVES@smtpout04.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <0a63254f-8c3e-a315-c1ba-0fa333fc965c@gmail.com>

Hi,

See my reply to this over on the boatanchors list. A 455 kc IF can can 
be used, especially for a homebrew project where it doesn't have to look 
original. Been there - done that. You can even make one of the IF amps 
oscillate as the BFO/amplifier. That has been done too.

73,

Bill KU8H

bark less - wag more

On 12/29/22 13:08, n2lxm at juno.com wrote:
> ?
> I should have been a little clearer. This is a Home Brew. I took an 
> old AA5 chassis, striped out the converter and DC supply sections. 
> Rewired for 6 volt tubes. Want to add a BFO to it. It will be hooked 
> up to a FFRD-7 8 - 16 MHz tuning unit. So any BFO coil that I can 
> squeeze in will work.
>
> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????? Jeff N2LXM
> ????????????????????????????????????????? Amateur Radio Operator
> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????? American
> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Patriot
> ???????????????????????????????????? Proud Father of Two US Marines
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 09:56:46 -0800 Ken <kgordon2006 at frontier.com> writes:
>
>     Which receiver?
>
>     Ken W7EKB
>
>
>
>     Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S21 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
>
>
>     -------- Original message --------
>     From: n2lxm at juno.com
>     Date: 12/29/22 09:16 (GMT-08:00)
>     To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
>     Cc: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
>     Subject: [Milsurplus] 455 Khz BFO Coil
>
>     Good Afternoon All, I am looking for a 455 Khz BFO coil for a receiver
>     project. Anyone have one then can part with ?.,
>
>
>     ??????????????????????????????????????????????????? Jeff N2LXM
>     ????????????????????????????????????????? Amateur Radio Operator
>     ????????????????????????????????????????????????????? American
>     ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Patriot
>     ???????????????????????????????????? Proud Father of Two US Marines
>
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From n2lxm at juno.com  Thu Dec 29 14:15:49 2022
From: n2lxm at juno.com (n2lxm at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 14:15:49 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] ARC-5 Crystal Oscillator coil
Message-ID: <AABT45357ALCK49A@smtpout04.vgs.untd.com>

Good Afternoon All,

        While digging through my stash of coils, IF cans and such. I came
a pond a can marked " APN-1 Xtal Osc". If anyone needs it, let me know
and it's yours.


                                                    Jeff N2LXM
                                          Amateur Radio Operator
                                                      American
                                                        Patriot
                                     Proud Father of Two US Marines


From kgordon2006 at frontier.com  Thu Dec 29 16:17:03 2022
From: kgordon2006 at frontier.com (Kenneth G. Gordon)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 13:17:03 -0800
Subject: [Milsurplus] 455KHZ BFO COIL
In-Reply-To: <167677994.3048560.1672346505376@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <167677994.3048560.1672346505376.ref@mail.yahoo.com>,
	<167677994.3048560.1672346505376@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <63AE03CF.22458.2A150DAC@kgordon2006.frontier.com>

On 29 Dec 2022 at 20:41, Rich MC Clung wrote:

> Here's an Idea.
> 
> https://worldradiohistory.com/hd2/IDX-Short-Wave/Monitoring-Times-IDX/90s/Mo
> nitoring-Times-1997-01-OCR-Page-0092.pdf
> 
> RICH WA6KNW

Darned good idea too, but, you also need this page:

https://worldradiohistory.com/hd2/IDX-Short-Wave/Monitoring-Times-IDX/90s/Monitoring-Tim
es-1997-01-OCR-Page-0093.pdf

Ken W7EKB



From kgordon2006 at frontier.com  Thu Dec 29 16:25:42 2022
From: kgordon2006 at frontier.com (Kenneth G. Gordon)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 13:25:42 -0800
Subject: [Milsurplus] 455KHZ BFO COIL - PDF attached
In-Reply-To: <167677994.3048560.1672346505376@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <167677994.3048560.1672346505376.ref@mail.yahoo.com>,
	<167677994.3048560.1672346505376@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <63AE05D6.3741.2A1CF700@kgordon2006.frontier.com>

Or anyone who needs it can take this PDF in which I combined the two.

You're welcome. :-)

Ken W7EKB
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From smithab11 at comcast.net  Thu Dec 29 18:25:57 2022
From: smithab11 at comcast.net (B. Smith)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 18:25:57 -0500
Subject: [Milsurplus] 455KHZ BFO COIL
In-Reply-To: <63AE03CF.22458.2A150DAC@kgordon2006.frontier.com>
References: <167677994.3048560.1672346505376.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<167677994.3048560.1672346505376@mail.yahoo.com>
	<63AE03CF.22458.2A150DAC@kgordon2006.frontier.com>
Message-ID: <a6d614b3-a7d5-340e-66b8-69b71611278e@comcast.net>

A discussion of BFO's and coils can be found on my?? "HBR" receiver 
construction pages:
http://k4che.com/HBR/BFO%20Coil%20Page%201and%20photos/BFO%20Coil%20Page%20%201.htm

K4che

On 12/29/2022 4:17 PM, Kenneth G. Gordon wrote:
> On 29 Dec 2022 at 20:41, Rich MC Clung wrote:
>
>> Here's an Idea.
>>
>> https://worldradiohistory.com/hd2/IDX-Short-Wave/Monitoring-Times-IDX/90s/Mo
>> nitoring-Times-1997-01-OCR-Page-0092.pdf
>>
>> RICH WA6KNW
> Darned good idea too, but, you also need this page:
>
> https://worldradiohistory.com/hd2/IDX-Short-Wave/Monitoring-Times-IDX/90s/Monitoring-Tim
> es-1997-01-OCR-Page-0093.pdf
>
> Ken W7EKB
>
>
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From old_radio at aol.com  Sat Dec 31 21:18:40 2022
From: old_radio at aol.com (Jim Whartenby)
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2023 02:18:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Milsurplus] URC-32 PA
References: <27735305.6117704.1672539520770.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <27735305.6117704.1672539520770@mail.yahoo.com>

Finished working on a AM-2061 aka 367A power amplifier.? Lots of interesting problems like tarnished relay contacts and interlocks not quite closing.? Once these issues were corrected, amp is making power.
Noticed some frequencies penciled in on the Drive and Plate controls.
4,780kc
6,151kc
7,348kc
11,957kc
12,216kc
Any info appreciated.
HNY,?
Jim

Logic: Method used to arrive at the wrong conclusion, with confidence.? Murphy
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