[GreenKeys] Heavy Metal

Bill Buzbee [email protected]
Thu, 3 Jan 2002 13:48:54 -0800 (PST)


OK - since things are slow, here's the short version of the latest theory:

I screwed up, and Heavy Metal is broken for COM4: users.

The longer version:

I must have used a bogus list of port addresses for Windows, and coded
COM4: as 0x3e0.  From a quick search at Google, I think I should have used
0x2e8.  As it turns out, I have COM6: at 0x2e8, so Paul is going to try
this out this evening.

I think the failure mode for this is consistent with what Paul is seeing.
I only use the direct port address when going behind Windows' back to fiddle
with the odd baud rate setting that we need for Teletype machines.  All
regular traffic to the port goes through more standard mechanisms.  So,
the baud rate settings are getting dropped on the floor so Paul is seeing
an echo with whatever (likely high) speed the uart is set to.

Sound reasonable?
...Bill


gil smith writes:
> 
> A note to the list:  I would normally take these sort of responses off the
> list at this point, but since the list software is new, and traffic is
> light, I am going to let some of these go through.
> 
> 
> Hi Paul:
> 
> Yeah, I'm hard at work too.
> 
> Strange that you can see an echo with tx/rx jumpered, but do not see an
> activity led flashing -- I presume the led is connected to the 232 tx line,
> and flashes properly with rttyart.  The led should light when the tx line
> is in the space condition (positive voltage).  45 baud has very fat bits,
> and you should see them even if chars are spread out (I don't think they
> are in HM).
> 
> Do you have a scope to look at things properly?  Interface schematic to email?
> 
> gil
> 
> 
> At 02:56 PM 1/3/02 -0500, you wrote:
> >Gil,
> >
> >I sent a note of apology to the list.  Usually, my name would appear on the
> >address header but, with the new email program, I have to send my emal from
> >a different account while I'm "hard at work" in the office.
> >
> >Bill Buzbee has been in contact so hopefully we'll find something.
> >Everything about HM works including an echo when TD and RD are jumpered.  I
> >see *no* LED activity on the breakout box which makes me think that the
> >charactors are being sent spaced out but extremely fast.  Removing the
> >jumper does remove the echo.  (Yes, I did remember to turn off the local
> >echo.)
> >
> >The port speed I'm trying for is 45.5 baud (60WPM).  RTTYArt works fine TX
> >and RX.
> >
> >The interface is derived from yours but with the addition of some TTL
> >switching logic to allow me to select the TTL output from my IMSAI CP/M
> >machine and a future connection to the TTL I/O of a Flesher TU.
> >
> >Thanks for the help (and the interface ideas!)
> >
> >Paul Wills
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "gil smith" <[email protected]>
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:18 PM
> >Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Heavy Metal
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Hi, er, PDW, you anonymous guy you:
> >>
> >> HeavyMetal is a great program, and so is RTTYArt.  I have run the full HM
> >> version (needing perl libs) on windows 98 -- the standalone HM executable
> >> for win runs the same way.  And, in my continuing quest to distance myself
> >> from microsoft's crap, I have also succesfully run the linux version of HM
> >> on redhat 7.1.
> >>
> >> I have never had a port speed problem, and I have used an M15 (60 wpm) to
> >> type as well as print, so both port directions worked fine.  I have even
> >> sent email using my M15.  Does the HM terminal window work for you, and
> >> just not the tty port?  What port/speed are you trying to use?  What loop
> >> interface are you using?  You might need to give Bill some specifics of
> >the
> >> pc and o/s.  It would be nice if you told us your name.
> >>
> >> greenkeys FYI:  the new greenkeys mail list replies to the LIST, and not
> >> the person, unlike it did before.  Previously, we had to explicitly add
> >> greenkeys to the reply.
> >>
> >> gil
> >>
> >>
> >> At 12:46 PM 1/3/02 -0500, you wrote:
> >> >Hello,
> >> >
> >> >Has anyone gotten Heavy Metal to run?
> >> >
> >> >I am able to use Bill Bytheway's RTTYart just fine which seems to prove
> >the
> >> >hardware end of things.  Heavy Metal doesn't seem to set the port speed
> >> >correctly on my PC.  Has anyone else experienced and, even better, solved
> >> >this problem?
> >> >
> >> >Thanks in advance,
> >> >
> >> >PDW
> >> >
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