[GreenKeys] Heavy Metal

Thu, 03 Jan 2002 18:25:59 -0500

Bill, Where can I get more information on your HeavyMetal software?  or 
is it hardware/software?  This discussion has piqued my interest.  BTW, 
what's wrong with discussing rtty on greenkey's???  or was that in jest??  

73 Gil, W4PJI

Bill Buzbee wrote:

>OK - since things are slow, here's the short version of the latest theory:
>
>I screwed up, and Heavy Metal is broken for COM4: users.
>
>The longer version:
>
>I must have used a bogus list of port addresses for Windows, and coded
>COM4: as 0x3e0.  From a quick search at Google, I think I should have used
>0x2e8.  As it turns out, I have COM6: at 0x2e8, so Paul is going to try
>this out this evening.
>
>I think the failure mode for this is consistent with what Paul is seeing.
>I only use the direct port address when going behind Windows' back to fiddle
>with the odd baud rate setting that we need for Teletype machines.  All
>regular traffic to the port goes through more standard mechanisms.  So,
>the baud rate settings are getting dropped on the floor so Paul is seeing
>an echo with whatever (likely high) speed the uart is set to.
>
>Sound reasonable?
>...Bill
>
>
>gil smith writes:
>
>>A note to the list:  I would normally take these sort of responses off the
>>list at this point, but since the list software is new, and traffic is
>>light, I am going to let some of these go through.
>>
>>
>>Hi Paul:
>>
>>Yeah, I'm hard at work too.
>>
>>Strange that you can see an echo with tx/rx jumpered, but do not see an
>>activity led flashing -- I presume the led is connected to the 232 tx line,
>>and flashes properly with rttyart.  The led should light when the tx line
>>is in the space condition (positive voltage).  45 baud has very fat bits,
>>and you should see them even if chars are spread out (I don't think they
>>are in HM).
>>
>>Do you have a scope to look at things properly?  Interface schematic to email?
>>
>>gil
>>
>>
>>At 02:56 PM 1/3/02 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>>Gil,
>>>
>>>I sent a note of apology to the list.  Usually, my name would appear on the
>>>address header but, with the new email program, I have to send my emal from
>>>a different account while I'm "hard at work" in the office.
>>>
>>>Bill Buzbee has been in contact so hopefully we'll find something.
>>>Everything about HM works including an echo when TD and RD are jumpered.  I
>>>see *no* LED activity on the breakout box which makes me think that the
>>>charactors are being sent spaced out but extremely fast.  Removing the
>>>jumper does remove the echo.  (Yes, I did remember to turn off the local
>>>echo.)
>>>
>>>The port speed I'm trying for is 45.5 baud (60WPM).  RTTYArt works fine TX
>>>and RX.
>>>
>>>The interface is derived from yours but with the addition of some TTL
>>>switching logic to allow me to select the TTL output from my IMSAI CP/M
>>>machine and a future connection to the TTL I/O of a Flesher TU.
>>>
>>>Thanks for the help (and the interface ideas!)
>>>
>>>Paul Wills
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "gil smith" <[email protected]>
>>>To: <[email protected]>
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:18 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Heavy Metal
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi, er, PDW, you anonymous guy you:
>>>>
>>>>HeavyMetal is a great program, and so is RTTYArt.  I have run the full HM
>>>>version (needing perl libs) on windows 98 -- the standalone HM executable
>>>>for win runs the same way.  And, in my continuing quest to distance myself
>>>>from microsoft's crap, I have also succesfully run the linux version of HM
>>>>on redhat 7.1.
>>>>
>>>>I have never had a port speed problem, and I have used an M15 (60 wpm) to
>>>>type as well as print, so both port directions worked fine.  I have even
>>>>sent email using my M15.  Does the HM terminal window work for you, and
>>>>just not the tty port?  What port/speed are you trying to use?  What loop
>>>>interface are you using?  You might need to give Bill some specifics of
>>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>pc and o/s.  It would be nice if you told us your name.
>>>>
>>>>greenkeys FYI:  the new greenkeys mail list replies to the LIST, and not
>>>>the person, unlike it did before.  Previously, we had to explicitly add
>>>>greenkeys to the reply.
>>>>
>>>>gil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>At 12:46 PM 1/3/02 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>Has anyone gotten Heavy Metal to run?
>>>>>
>>>>>I am able to use Bill Bytheway's RTTYart just fine which seems to prove
>>>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>hardware end of things.  Heavy Metal doesn't seem to set the port speed
>>>>>correctly on my PC.  Has anyone else experienced and, even better, solved
>>>>>this problem?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks in advance,
>>>>>
>>>>>PDW
>>>>>
>>>>>
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